The teachings of the Egyptian army are a "warning shot" for Erdogan

The large exercises of the Egyptian army near the border with Libya are considered by experts as a message to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, supporting the Government of National Accord (PNS), headed by Prime Minister Fayez Sarraj and military units subordinate to him. Thus, Cairo calls on the Turkish leader to a more restrained policy in Libya, making a "warning shot."

This is written by Mohammed al-Shamaa in an article published by the Arab News newspaper.

Hasm-2020 military exercises conducted by units of the Western region of Egypt. The armed forces and special forces, including paratroopers and marines, took part in them. The scenario of the maneuvers involved an invasion of the ground forces and land operations in coastal areas near the Libyan border. Counteraction to mercenaries and terrorist groups was also worked out. Artillery and air defense forces were also connected.

The exercises lasted several days. The Ministry of Defense of Egypt reported that the head of the defense department Mohammed Zaki took part in the active phase of the exercises.

General Samir Farag drew attention to the difference between these teachings and any other maneuvers of the Egyptian armed forces. Usually the military of this country is practicing a clash with the regular army of the enemy. This time they trained to counteract the mercenaries.

The general said that one of the training tasks was an attack on mercenaries with the connection of the air force. He noted that the Egyptian Air Force did an excellent job of transporting soldiers and military equipment. This means that Cairo has armed forces that can be quickly deployed anywhere in the African-Middle East macro region.

Earlier in Egypt, they announced their readiness to send troops to Libya if the PNS and its allies cross the "red line", which conditionally passes through the coastal city of Sirte.

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

So, after all, a warning shot sometimes happens in HIS OWN leg ... The Egyptians did not take part in large-scale operations for a long time, and the Turks showed that they had learned something ...

[Cartalon]

If the Turks take control of all of Libya, then there will be a base for Muslim brothers, and this is the end for the power of the military in Egypt, so there is no choice.

[private person]

The Egyptians did not take part in large-scale operations for a long time, and the Turks showed that they had learned something ...

What did the Turks learn? Attack when peace agreements are signed? Or act with the wrong hands? Whom did the Turks fight on a large scale with the Kurds or with Syria. India is not Kurds and not Syrians, I don’t want to strike at the most, it will not seem enough.

[IGOR GORDEEV]

Quote: private person

India is not Kurds and not Syrians, I don’t want to strike at the most, it will not seem enough.

Explain what does India have to do with it?

[private person]

Explain
I apologize to Egypt.

[tekinoral]

Quote: private person

What did the Turks learn?

The Turks did not forget! Another arrogance rolls over!

[Oquzyurd]

"India is not Kurds" You need to drink with a pause, a snack for what?)))

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

So, after all, a warning shot sometimes happens in HIS OWN leg ... The Egyptians did not take part in large-scale operations for a long time, and the Turks showed that they had learned something ...

Alas, there is truth in this. On the other hand, Egypt is in favor of the position of the VD theater and logistics, and Turkey has so many "friends" that it will soon begin to collect the fruits of its policy.

[Krasnodar]

The Egyptians are not the easiest opponent. They have enough mess, however, many combat units were fired at in the Sinai in the database against the IS. Their advantage over the Turks is the presence of a land border with Libya.

[paul3390]

In addition - too many countries believe that the Ottomans are clearly overburdened, therefore - any attempts to bring them to life will be met with approval and understanding, and even perhaps help than they can. But the Turks had no friends left ..

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Krasnodar

The Egyptians are not the easiest opponent.

What?)) Is there at least one example from the history of the last several thousand years? Or are you talking about the time of Tutankhamun?))

[Krasnodar]

The beginning of the October war of 1973 against Israel, Gaddafi succumbed in 1977. They have a good amount of good equipment, the question is in the level of training.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: Krasnodar

1973 war against Israel

This is the war in which the Arabs were 3 times more? And at the end of the conflict, Israeli military units were 100 km from Cairo, was the 3rd Egyptian army surrounded? It would be better if they didn’t even remember))) Israel recently only wrote off all the trophies from that war)))

[Krasnodar]

Yes, but the beginning was impressive - the Egyptians crossed the Bar-Lev line and repulsed rather massive tank attacks of the bridgehead with heavy losses for the Israelis. Then yes - they trampled down to rescue the Syrians and grabbed off, did not take seriously the Israeli forces forcing the Suez Canal, etc. However, they successfully repelled the attacks on the Third Army surrounded by Jews and did not allow the city of Suez to be taken (the Jews, in general, did not particularly try to take it, but the attempt cost many lives and equipment).

[Oquzyurd]

Yesterday I wrote, I’ll copy it here again.
The Egyptian army is a commercial organization. All construction companies. Production and sale belongs to the army and its ranks. Discipline is at the level of the Bata formation, which is worse. Generals are merchants who have their own companies. The competition between them is not in military affairs, preparation and planning, but in trade and construction. Think such an army is capable of winning something? What have they won to this day? Some defeat. The Saudis, the United Arab Emirates are the same. The Houthis showed their "organization and planning, having only modern weapons in the presence of only modern weapons."

[Krasnodar]

Underestimation of the potential enemy led the Israelis to quite considerable losses in 1973.

[Oquzyurd]

We are writing here about what we read on the Internet resources. Probably the generals of the Turks treat their opponents more seriously)

[Krasnodar]

Most likely with utmost seriousness

[tim.tim]

Yes, against you Basurmans, the more bayonets typed, the better.

[1976AG]

Here at the same time and participate.

[hrych]

In Turkey, a military caste was cleared, but in Egypt this was not possible, the counter-revolution defeated. Russia is to blame, as usual, the international international Islamists are stuck in Syria and are mostly destroyed. A miserable got to Egypt; staff shortages could not crush the counter-revolution. Therefore, professionalism is on the side of Egypt, as is the military mentality. The Turks have an army of workers and peasants and because of this are cowardly. We do not take the Red Army, a different mentality ...

[Grazdanin]

Quote: hrych

Therefore, professionalism is on the side of Egypt,

Yeah)) only this is a caste of professional traders and builders)) at least google who the Egyptian "generals" are :))

[Oquzyurd]

How the military took control of the Egyptian economy after the "Arab Spring" Not everything is written here, but even this is enough to understand how things are going for these large-star warriors.))
https://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/articles/2018/05/22/770356-voennie-ekonomiku-egipta-kontrol

[Grazdanin]

How to trade they do not need to train, the Turks on the front line to organize a full service they will be better off than to fight))

[Oquzyurd]

The Turks today announced that they had completed the second modernization of the M60T tanks, and all the tanks were provided with active protection. They have already taken up the modernization of the Leopards. The video shows an interesting moment (1.20) of the active operation being wired up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idhCK3dKQeQ

[Grazdanin]

YouTube has already issued recommendations :) It is interesting to look at the real work, there are a lot of questions to the Barrier :)

[Oquzyurd]

Tests passed at 5, and I don’t think that the real work will differ in anything. Aselsan finalized this PULAT (Barrier), brought it to mind.

[Grazdanin]

In 5 years, Turkey will enter the tops of arms exporters. This Pulat (Bulat?) Is the only alternative to Israeli systems. Algeria will buy the same for Tzhek.

[Oquzyurd]

"In 5 years Turkey will enter the top arms exporters" Yes, that is so. They do not stop, they work day and night, they create. They themselves say that in the development of technology we must run forward like sprinters, since we did not even walk, but sat without moving for very long years.

[Oquzyurd]

I offer a rest from the warrior and from the coronavirus. Yesterday I listened, very useful.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w63Xm61DYbc&t=276s

[iouris]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

The Egyptians did not take part in large-scale operations for a long time, and the Turks showed that they had learned something ...

To learn "something", you first need to get involved in a fight. "If you want peace, fight constantly" (the author of the aphorism is unknown).

[Charik]

what they learned, bombing infantry in slippers

[rocket757]

And the Sultan sho should have thought that this exercise is going on ???

[Maks-80]

Of course, such fighters from Egypt

[alexmach]

One of the commentators was right, who, when the Egyptian forces were being transferred to the west, assumed that the parade would be held there and that would be limited :). The teachings are certainly more serious than the parade, but still.

[Grazdanin]

Egypt will enter Libya if the threat of Benghazi appears. While Tripoli needs Sirte, al-Jufra, Sabna. Benghazi will be taken in the event of another mess in Egypt. Algeria openly joined the British-Italian-Turkish coalition, and this is a challenge to France and one of the largest armies in the region.

[7,62x54]

Erdo is deaf and does not hear warning shots. Need a good kick in the ass. To feel.

[Klingon]

Well, the Egyptians have the same Venigret as the Indians, here you have the M60 and T-55/62/80 and BMPhi and BM-21, OT-62, Shilki, Chinuki, Ka-52, Mi-8, Mirage, MiGs

[Doccor18]

Erdogan will not fight Al-Sisi. It is expensive and difficult. It is one thing to drive the "wrong" mujahideen through the sands with the help of the "right" ones, and another thing is the war with Egypt. Then Libyan oil will not cover all the costs.

[viber]

There is a "hellish mixture" of interweaving of different interests. And there may be momentary interesting allies)): "And regardless of what these media report that there is Wagner or someone else killing someone, along with the Libyan army (LNA). I ​​do not claim that they are there there are these Russians who are being talked about, but even if there are Russian murderers, as we said, it (the question probably) returns, as we said, to the fact that taking help from the Mushriks or infidels is a matter of fiqh and not it is a question of kufr.
I mean, the fakikhs of Imam Shafi'i, Malik, Ahmad, Abu Hanifa speak about him. However, in order for a person to take someone who will help him, (it is necessary) that his homeland be occupied, the blessings of the homeland are divided, and that they take something from his land, build military bases [...] that is, it is not allowed to do this in the absence the named conditions, the presence of which makes it possible to resort to alliances with the mushriks "

In context, briefly, yes, he says that the LNA is allowed to resort to Wagner for help (even if they are murderers and mushrik / kafirs) if the homeland is occupied (in this case, naturally, Turkey is meant).

https://t.me/semenovkirill

[Pavel57]

Interesting shots of the MiG-29 refueling.

[tralflot1832]

My opinion is all this turbidity due to a jeep next to Israel! They did not need to find it. It was not just that Moses drove them through the desert, found no oil or gas. So they found in the sea, let them now defend themselves.

[Junior Warrant Officer]

Foolish! Here are those times ....
The two most popular tourist destinations, Turkey and Egypt, decided to fight! Gentlemen, Crimea and Krasnodar are not rubber, and prices bite, but now they quickly stopped fighting for the benefit of the wallets of ordinary Russians.

[WOLF330]

Quote: Cartalon

the end for military power in Egypt

and so close!

[501 Legion]

Quote: Cartalon

If the Turks take control of all of Libya, then there will be a base for Muslim brothers, and this is the end for the power of the military in Egypt, so there is no choice.

all the more so since after the coup in Egypt it was they who came to power and only after their overthrow by the Generals it worked out, if they remained in power with the Mursi it would be scary to think what could be there, the only thing that would have happened was they with Erdogan’s gum they would surely be slaughtered, bros.

[tekinoral]

Quote: hrych

The Turks have an army - workers and peasants and because of this cowardly

It began to look high, you are a coward grunt, fought against the Turks and from there such conclusions?

[harpsichord]

What is there to argue-as the United States will say. so in Libya it will be. The actors will play a show to show their freedom and independence, and then they will be sent as Russia to destroy ISIS in Syria (and there is a justification - they say the base is needed. The last ally is needed, only no one will say that if these little pieces of land are halfway - not an hour). But Iran was not seriously allowed into Syria; the Turks of Assad were also not allowed to frolic. Well, they correct it from time to time, if the behavior does not correspond - then Israel is raided, then the USA - they say, they did not hear our request for that oil capacity ...

[Hydrography Bay Golden Horn]

Turkey is stronger, its troops are trained, and its special forces are in the top 5

[brr1]

Quote: AzDefence2020

Quote: Grazdanin

Egypt will enter

as they enter and run away. Arabs are not equal to Turks and too tough.

The stuffing will be turboguz.

[tekinoral]

Quote: brr1

The stuffing will be turboguz.

Has he ever shot in life?

[WOLF330]

Only cigarettes from a neighbor on the landing!

[brr1]

Quote: KURT330

Only cigarettes from a neighbor on the landing!

The turbolobby pulled up. The truth is so ineffective and unassembled that, in addition to laughter, your attempts to whitewash the Turks do not cause anything. Are you there exactly Azerbaijanis? Or cosmopolitan Turk?

[brr1]

Quote: tekinoral

Quote: hrych

The Turks have an army - workers and peasants and because of this cowardly

It began to look high, you are a coward grunt, fought against the Turks and from there such conclusions?

This is an example of how Azerbaijanis see Karabakh fighting. Or do not focus on them? Eccentric Great Turkic pancake.

[tekinoral]

Quote: brr1

Eccentric Great Turkic pancake.

And many times in Karabakh were next to the Azerbaijanis? To judge

[brr1]

Quote: tekinoral

Quote: brr1

The stuffing will be turboguz.

Has he ever shot in life?

Lots of

[brr1]

Quote: tekinoral

Quote: brr1

Eccentric Great Turkic pancake.

And many times in Karabakh were next to the Azerbaijanis? To judge

I judge by the result, and there are Armenians. Everything else is words.

[Gloomy skeptic]

To fight a real enemy "to fight" in exercises - these are two big differences! The last time the Egyptians got rid of the Israelis was in 1967 and since then their military power has been visible only in exercises. And the Turks can and hurt to snitch if they are hurt.

[Pereira]

First, not the last. Secondly, they had chances to win, but they all profiled.

[Gloomy skeptic]

The story DOES NOT HAVE a subjunctive mood !!! And then, as in the memoirs of the German generals: "We were stronger than the Russians, the technique is better, the military spirit is safsem lucche, but for reasons beyond our control (brilliant) we lost, two world wars in a row. But this is all an accident. Egyptians to the Germans as to the moon on foot.

[Pereira]

I will not say about the fighting spirit of the Egyptians, and the air defense system in 1973 in the area of ​​the canal was better. They would wait a week and leave Israel without aviation. The Jews already got the nuclear bombs of their caches.

History has no subjunctive mood !!!

But military science has.

[Gloomy skeptic]

And who was sitting at the air defense consoles ??? Not really the Egyptians? Yes, and the MiG-25 at an altitude of 20 loitered for persuasiveness and so "convinced" the Moses descendants that they had sworn to fly on missions - because against an unknown aircraft, and even at such a height they could only show figurines to the MiG pilot, have they really forgotten ??? So, the so-called self-called pharaoh's descendants in military affairs only showed themselves in parades, especially in 000, when their own President Anwar Sadat was defeated, they ALWAYS won.

[Gloomy skeptic]

Quote: Hydrograph of the Golden Horn

Turkey is stronger, its troops are trained, and its special forces are in the top 5

And among whom did they choose for fifth place? Among the Egyptians, Saudis and Jordanians ???