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The teachings of the Egyptian army are a "warning shot" for Erdogan

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The large exercises of the Egyptian army near the border with Libya are considered by experts as a message to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, supporting the Government of National Accord (PNS), headed by Prime Minister Fayez Sarraj and military units subordinate to him. Thus, Cairo calls on the Turkish leader to a more restrained policy in Libya, making a "warning shot."


This is written by Mohammed al-Shamaa in an article published by the Arab News newspaper.

Hasm-2020 military exercises conducted by units of the Western region of Egypt. The armed forces and special forces, including paratroopers and marines, took part in them. The scenario of the maneuvers involved an invasion of the ground forces and land operations in coastal areas near the Libyan border. Counteraction to mercenaries and terrorist groups was also worked out. Artillery and air defense forces were also connected.

The exercises lasted several days. The Ministry of Defense of Egypt reported that the head of the defense department Mohammed Zaki took part in the active phase of the exercises.


General Samir Farag drew attention to the difference between these teachings and any other maneuvers of the Egyptian armed forces. Usually the military of this country is practicing a clash with the regular army of the enemy. This time they trained to counteract the mercenaries.

The general said that one of the training tasks was an attack on mercenaries with the connection of the air force. He noted that the Egyptian Air Force did an excellent job of transporting soldiers and military equipment. This means that Cairo has armed forces that can be quickly deployed anywhere in the African-Middle East macro region.

Earlier in Egypt, they announced their readiness to send troops to Libya if the PNS and its allies cross the "red line", which conditionally passes through the coastal city of Sirte.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 12 July 2020 12: 02
    0
    So, after all, a warning shot sometimes happens in HIS OWN leg ... The Egyptians did not take part in large-scale operations for a long time, and the Turks showed that they had learned something ...
    1. Cartalon
      Cartalon 12 July 2020 12: 08
      24
      If the Turks take control of all of Libya, then there will be a base for Muslim brothers, and this is the end for the power of the military in Egypt, so there is no choice.
    2. private person
      private person 12 July 2020 12: 12
      -1
      The Egyptians did not take part in large-scale operations for a long time, and the Turks showed that they had learned something ...

      What did the Turks learn? Attack when peace agreements are signed? Or act with the wrong hands? Whom did the Turks fight on a large scale with the Kurds or with Syria. India is not Kurds and not Syrians, I don’t want to strike at the most, it will not seem enough.
      1. IGOR GORDEEV
        IGOR GORDEEV 12 July 2020 12: 28
        +5
        Quote: private person
        India is not Kurds and not Syrians, I don’t want to strike at the most, it will not seem enough.

        Explain what does India have to do with it?
        1. private person
          private person 12 July 2020 13: 11
          +1
          Explain
          I apologize to Egypt.
      2. tekinoral
        tekinoral 12 July 2020 15: 18
        +1
        Quote: private person
        What did the Turks learn?

        The Turks did not forget! Another arrogance rolls over! wink
      3. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 12 July 2020 16: 47
        +1
        "India is not Kurds" You need to drink with a pause, a snack for what?)))
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 12 July 2020 12: 12
      +4
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      So, after all, a warning shot sometimes happens in HIS OWN leg ... The Egyptians did not take part in large-scale operations for a long time, and the Turks showed that they had learned something ...
      Alas, there is truth in this. On the other hand, Egypt is in favor of the position of the VD theater and logistics, and Turkey has so many "friends" that it will soon begin to collect the fruits of its policy.
    4. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 12 July 2020 12: 16
      +4
      The Egyptians are not the easiest opponent. They have enough mess, however, many combat units were fired at in the Sinai in the database against the IS. Their advantage over the Turks is the presence of a land border with Libya.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 12 July 2020 12: 23
        +7
        In addition - too many countries believe that the Ottomans are clearly overburdened, therefore - any attempts to bring them to life will be met with approval and understanding, and even perhaps help than they can. But the Turks had no friends left ..
      2. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 12 July 2020 12: 30
        -4
        Quote: Krasnodar
        The Egyptians are not the easiest opponent.

        What?)) Is there at least one example from the history of the last several thousand years? Or are you talking about the time of Tutankhamun?))
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 12 July 2020 12: 35
          +1
          The beginning of the October war of 1973 against Israel, Gaddafi succumbed in 1977. They have a good amount of good equipment, the question is in the level of training.
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 12 July 2020 12: 43
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            1973 war against Israel

            This is the war in which the Arabs were 3 times more? And at the end of the conflict, Israeli military units were 100 km from Cairo, was the 3rd Egyptian army surrounded? It would be better if they didn’t even remember))) Israel recently only wrote off all the trophies from that war)))
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 12 July 2020 13: 13
              +2
              Yes, but the beginning was impressive - the Egyptians crossed the Bar-Lev line and repulsed rather massive tank attacks of the bridgehead with heavy losses for the Israelis. Then yes - they trampled down to rescue the Syrians and grabbed off, did not take seriously the Israeli forces forcing the Suez Canal, etc. However, they successfully repelled the attacks on the Third Army surrounded by Jews and did not allow the city of Suez to be taken (the Jews, in general, did not particularly try to take it, but the attempt cost many lives and equipment).
      3. Oquzyurd
        Oquzyurd 12 July 2020 16: 53
        +3
        Yesterday I wrote, I’ll copy it here again.
        The Egyptian army is a commercial organization. All construction companies. Production and sale belongs to the army and its ranks. Discipline is at the level of the Bata formation, which is worse. Generals are merchants who have their own companies. The competition between them is not in military affairs, preparation and planning, but in trade and construction. Think such an army is capable of winning something? What have they won to this day? Some defeat. The Saudis, the United Arab Emirates are the same. The Houthis showed their "organization and planning, having only modern weapons in the presence of only modern weapons."
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 12 July 2020 17: 00
          +1
          Underestimation of the potential enemy led the Israelis to quite considerable losses in 1973. hi
          1. Oquzyurd
            Oquzyurd 12 July 2020 17: 25
            0
            We are writing here about what we read on the Internet resources. Probably the generals of the Turks treat their opponents more seriously)
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 12 July 2020 17: 26
              +1
              Most likely with utmost seriousness
        2. tim.tim
          tim.tim 12 July 2020 19: 32
          0
          Yes, against you Basurmans, the more bayonets typed, the better.
    5. 1976AG
      1976AG 12 July 2020 12: 18
      +2
      Here at the same time and participate.
    6. hrych
      hrych 12 July 2020 12: 44
      +2
      In Turkey, a military caste was cleared, but in Egypt this was not possible, the counter-revolution defeated. Russia is to blame, as usual, the international international Islamists are stuck in Syria and are mostly destroyed. A miserable got to Egypt; staff shortages could not crush the counter-revolution. Therefore, professionalism is on the side of Egypt, as is the military mentality. The Turks have an army of workers and peasants and because of this are cowardly. We do not take the Red Army, a different mentality ...
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 12 July 2020 12: 59
        -4
        Quote: hrych
        Therefore, professionalism is on the side of Egypt,

        Yeah)) only this is a caste of professional traders and builders)) at least google who the Egyptian "generals" are :))
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 12 July 2020 17: 12
          -1
          How the military took control of the Egyptian economy after the "Arab Spring" Not everything is written here, but even this is enough to understand how things are going for these large-star warriors.))
          https://www.vedomosti.ru/economics/articles/2018/05/22/770356-voennie-ekonomiku-egipta-kontrol
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 12 July 2020 17: 18
            +1
            How to trade they do not need to train, the Turks on the front line to organize a full service they will be better off than to fight))
        2. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 12 July 2020 18: 22
          -2
          The Turks today announced that they had completed the second modernization of the M60T tanks, and all the tanks were provided with active protection. They have already taken up the modernization of the Leopards. The video shows an interesting moment (1.20) of the active operation being wired up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idhCK3dKQeQ
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 12 July 2020 18: 25
            0
            YouTube has already issued recommendations :) It is interesting to look at the real work, there are a lot of questions to the Barrier :)
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 12 July 2020 18: 33
              -2
              Tests passed at 5, and I don’t think that the real work will differ in anything. Aselsan finalized this PULAT (Barrier), brought it to mind.
              1. Grazdanin
                Grazdanin 12 July 2020 18: 44
                0
                In 5 years, Turkey will enter the tops of arms exporters. This Pulat (Bulat?) Is the only alternative to Israeli systems. Algeria will buy the same for Tzhek.
                1. Oquzyurd
                  Oquzyurd 12 July 2020 18: 52
                  -2
                  "In 5 years Turkey will enter the top arms exporters" Yes, that is so. They do not stop, they work day and night, they create. They themselves say that in the development of technology we must run forward like sprinters, since we did not even walk, but sat without moving for very long years.
            2. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 12 July 2020 18: 41
              -2
              I offer a rest from the warrior and from the coronavirus. Yesterday I listened, very useful.)
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w63Xm61DYbc&t=276s
    7. iouris
      iouris 12 July 2020 14: 09
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The Egyptians did not take part in large-scale operations for a long time, and the Turks showed that they had learned something ...

      To learn "something", you first need to get involved in a fight. "If you want peace, fight constantly" (the author of the aphorism is unknown).
    8. Charik
      Charik 12 July 2020 22: 15
      0
      what they learned, bombing infantry in slippers
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 12 July 2020 12: 21
    0
    And the Sultan sho should have thought that this exercise is going on ???
  3. Maks-80
    Maks-80 12 July 2020 12: 41
    -2
    Of course, such fighters from Egypt wassat
  4. alexmach
    alexmach 12 July 2020 12: 55
    0
    One of the commentators was right, who, when the Egyptian forces were being transferred to the west, assumed that the parade would be held there and that would be limited :). The teachings are certainly more serious than the parade, but still.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 12 July 2020 13: 13
      -1
      Egypt will enter Libya if the threat of Benghazi appears. While Tripoli needs Sirte, al-Jufra, Sabna. Benghazi will be taken in the event of another mess in Egypt. Algeria openly joined the British-Italian-Turkish coalition, and this is a challenge to France and one of the largest armies in the region.
  5. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 12 July 2020 12: 56
    +1
    Erdo is deaf and does not hear warning shots. Need a good kick in the ass. To feel.
  6. Klingon
    Klingon 12 July 2020 13: 03
    +1
    Well, the Egyptians have the same Venigret as the Indians, here you have the M60 and T-55/62/80 and BMPhi and BM-21, OT-62, Shilki, Chinuki, Ka-52, Mi-8, Mirage, MiGs laughing
  7. Doccor18
    Doccor18 12 July 2020 13: 09
    +6
    Erdogan will not fight Al-Sisi. It is expensive and difficult. It is one thing to drive the "wrong" mujahideen through the sands with the help of the "right" ones, and another thing is the war with Egypt. Then Libyan oil will not cover all the costs.
  8. lapwings
    lapwings 12 July 2020 13: 16
    -3
    There is a "hellish mixture" of interweaving of different interests. And there may be momentary interesting allies)): "And regardless of what these media report that there is Wagner or someone else killing someone, along with the Libyan army (LNA). I ​​do not claim that they are there there are these Russians who are being talked about, but even if there are Russian murderers, as we said, it (the question probably) returns, as we said, to the fact that taking help from the Mushriks or infidels is a matter of fiqh and not it is a question of kufr.
    I mean, the fakikhs of Imam Shafi'i, Malik, Ahmad, Abu Hanifa speak about him. However, in order for a person to take someone who will help him, (it is necessary) that his homeland be occupied, the blessings of the homeland are divided, and that they take something from his land, build military bases [...] that is, it is not allowed to do this in the absence the named conditions, the presence of which makes it possible to resort to alliances with the mushriks "

    In context, briefly, yes, he says that the LNA is allowed to resort to Wagner for help (even if they are murderers and mushrik / kafirs) if the homeland is occupied (in this case, naturally, Turkey is meant).

    https://t.me/semenovkirill
  9. Pavel57
    Pavel57 12 July 2020 13: 57
    0
    Interesting shots of the MiG-29 refueling.
  10. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 12 July 2020 14: 10
    0
    My opinion is all this turbidity due to a jeep next to Israel! They did not need to find it. It was not just that Moses drove them through the desert, found no oil or gas. So they found in the sea, let them now defend themselves.
  11. Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 12 July 2020 14: 21
    0
    Foolish! Here are those times ....
    The two most popular tourist destinations, Turkey and Egypt, decided to fight! Gentlemen, Crimea and Krasnodar are not rubber, and prices bite, but now they quickly stopped fighting for the benefit of the wallets of ordinary Russians.
  12. KURT330
    KURT330 12 July 2020 14: 22
    -1
    Quote: Cartalon
    the end for military power in Egypt
    and so close!
  13. 501Legion
    501Legion 12 July 2020 14: 55
    0
    Quote: Cartalon
    If the Turks take control of all of Libya, then there will be a base for Muslim brothers, and this is the end for the power of the military in Egypt, so there is no choice.

    all the more so since after the coup in Egypt it was they who came to power and only after their overthrow by the Generals it worked out, if they remained in power with the Mursi it would be scary to think what could be there, the only thing that would have happened was they with Erdogan’s gum they would surely be slaughtered, bros.
  14. tekinoral
    tekinoral 12 July 2020 15: 10
    +1
    Quote: hrych
    The Turks have an army - workers and peasants and because of this cowardly

    It began to look high, you are a coward grunt, fought against the Turks and from there such conclusions?
  15. harpsichord
    harpsichord 12 July 2020 16: 30
    0
    What is there to argue-as the United States will say. so in Libya it will be. The actors will play a show to show their freedom and independence, and then they will be sent as Russia to destroy ISIS in Syria (and there is a justification - they say the base is needed. The last ally is needed, only no one will say that if these little pieces of land are halfway - not an hour). But Iran was not seriously allowed into Syria; the Turks of Assad were also not allowed to frolic. Well, they correct it from time to time, if the behavior does not correspond - then Israel is raided, then the USA - they say, they did not hear our request for that oil capacity ...
  16. Hydrography Bay Golden Horn
    Hydrography Bay Golden Horn 12 July 2020 16: 42
    -3
    Turkey is stronger, its troops are trained, and its special forces are in the top 5
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  18. brr1
    brr1 12 July 2020 20: 48
    -1
    Quote: AzDefence2020
    Quote: Grazdanin
    Egypt will enter

    as they enter and run away. Arabs are not equal to Turks and too tough.

    The stuffing will be turboguz.
    1. tekinoral
      tekinoral 12 July 2020 21: 20
      0
      Quote: brr1
      The stuffing will be turboguz.

      Has he ever shot in life?
      1. KURT330
        KURT330 13 July 2020 08: 54
        -1
        Only cigarettes from a neighbor on the landing!
        1. brr1
          brr1 13 July 2020 11: 48
          0
          Quote: KURT330
          Only cigarettes from a neighbor on the landing!

          The turbolobby pulled up. The truth is so ineffective and unassembled that, in addition to laughter, your attempts to whitewash the Turks do not cause anything. Are you there exactly Azerbaijanis? Or cosmopolitan Turk?
  19. brr1
    brr1 12 July 2020 20: 52
    0
    Quote: tekinoral
    Quote: hrych
    The Turks have an army - workers and peasants and because of this cowardly

    It began to look high, you are a coward grunt, fought against the Turks and from there such conclusions?

    This is an example of how Azerbaijanis see Karabakh fighting. Or do not focus on them? Eccentric Great Turkic pancake.
    1. tekinoral
      tekinoral 12 July 2020 21: 19
      -1
      Quote: brr1
      Eccentric Great Turkic pancake.

      And many times in Karabakh were next to the Azerbaijanis? To judge
  20. brr1
    brr1 12 July 2020 21: 47
    0
    Quote: tekinoral
    Quote: brr1
    The stuffing will be turboguz.

    Has he ever shot in life?

    Lots of
  21. brr1
    brr1 12 July 2020 21: 48
    0
    Quote: tekinoral
    Quote: brr1
    Eccentric Great Turkic pancake.

    And many times in Karabakh were next to the Azerbaijanis? To judge

    I judge by the result, and there are Armenians. Everything else is words.
  22. Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 13 July 2020 08: 00
    +1
    To fight a real enemy "to fight" in exercises - these are two big differences! The last time the Egyptians got rid of the Israelis was in 1967 and since then their military power has been visible only in exercises. And the Turks can and hurt to snitch if they are hurt.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 13 July 2020 08: 50
      0
      First, not the last. Secondly, they had chances to win, but they all profiled.
      1. Gloomy skeptic
        Gloomy skeptic 13 July 2020 08: 56
        +1
        The story DOES NOT HAVE a subjunctive mood !!! And then, as in the memoirs of the German generals: "We were stronger than the Russians, the technique is better, the military spirit is safsem lucche, but for reasons beyond our control (brilliant) we lost, two world wars in a row. But this is all an accident. Egyptians to the Germans as to the moon on foot.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 13 July 2020 09: 00
          0
          I will not say about the fighting spirit of the Egyptians, and the air defense system in 1973 in the area of ​​the canal was better. They would wait a week and leave Israel without aviation. The Jews already got the nuclear bombs of their caches.
          History has no subjunctive mood !!!

          But military science has.
          1. Gloomy skeptic
            Gloomy skeptic 13 July 2020 09: 07
            0
            And who was sitting at the air defense consoles ??? Not really the Egyptians? Yes, and the MiG-25 at an altitude of 20 loitered for persuasiveness and so "convinced" the Moses descendants that they had sworn to fly on missions - because against an unknown aircraft, and even at such a height they could only show figurines to the MiG pilot, have they really forgotten ??? So, the so-called self-called pharaoh's descendants in military affairs only showed themselves in parades, especially in 000, when their own President Anwar Sadat was defeated, they ALWAYS won.
  23. Gloomy skeptic
    Gloomy skeptic 13 July 2020 08: 15
    -1
    Quote: Hydrograph of the Golden Horn
    Turkey is stronger, its troops are trained, and its special forces are in the top 5

    And among whom did they choose for fifth place? Among the Egyptians, Saudis and Jordanians ???