Ministry of Defense will build a new pipeline to supply water to Simferopol

The Taigan and Simferopol reservoirs in Crimea will be connected by a 60-km pipeline. The corresponding work will be carried out by the Russian Ministry of Defense at the request of the authorities of the peninsula. This was reported by the press service of the military department.

As stated in the Ministry of Defense, on Saturday in the Crimea arrived the first military train with special equipment and military personnel. In total, over 300 military personnel and about 140 units of special and construction equipment will be involved in the construction of the pipeline.

For pumping water from the Taigan Reservoir to Simferopol Pipeline Units from the composition of the logistics of the Southern and Western military districts will build a pipeline with a length of more than 60 kilometers

- said in a statement.

The Ministry of Defense explained that the leadership of the Republic of Crimea appealed to the military department. According to the head of the Crimea, Sergei Aksenov, due to the drought in Simferopol, "a certain water shortage has formed." After the construction of the pipeline, it will become possible to temporarily transfer up to 50 thousand cubic meters of water to the reservoirs of Simferopol.

At the beginning of 2020, many reservoirs in the Crimea became shallow. The most tense situation due to the lack of precipitation has developed in Simferopol, the Crimean capital authorities have developed a schedule for water supply to the population in case of "special need", but at the moment it has not been introduced. Aksyonov called the current year one of the driest for the peninsula over the past half century.

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[Vestovo]

Well, now the banderlogs will fly up and debase everyone, as always here in recent years ..
And there will be water in the Crimea !!!!

[AlexVas44]

... it will become possible to temporarily transfer up to 50 thousand cubic meters of water to the reservoirs of Simferopol.

An interesting characteristic, what does it mean temporarily ?. I had to look for such a figure.
Searched - found in RIA Novosti. S. Aksenov reports that it will be 60 thousand cubic meters per day.
https://ria.ru/20200708/1574061542.html

[Avior]

Perhaps it is temporary, summer.
Not buried in the ground

[steelmaker]

Ukraine owes us so much! It is not necessary to blow up the dam. I do not believe! But as far as I know, in any negotiations with Ukraine, the issue of water did not even rise. But Ukraine put ultimatums on gas and Russia met the deadline. What they are doing now is a drop in the ocean. We need a global project to provide all of Crimea with water and agriculture too.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: steel maker

We need a global project to provide all of Crimea with water and agriculture too.

Wow? Is it global? Yes, Russia laid so many pipes to the bottom of the seas that in the Crimea it was possible to supply water along two lines without any particular strain.
And the CCM project was global. It remains to pick up the former territories of the Republic of Ingushetia and start up water on a global project. And then some kind of "superpower", which is written and even revels in the wrong hands, poses a whole country that has still not recovered debts from Ukraine ...
A little political will and this formation will fall apart into its constituent parts, as was the case of 1922.

[3danimal]

Do you include the cost in the "former territories"? Finland, Poland, the Baltic countries? Kazakhstan?

[a.hamster55]

And let us redirect the Dnieper to the Volga!

[a.hamster55]

Yes, and why Dnieper Dnieper, like desert residents. And the Black Sea is worthless to them. And they want to then dig a new nezalezhnoe.

[fa2998]

Quote: Vestovoi

And there will be water in the Crimea !!!!

I understand that it is already there. The article about delivering Crimean water to Simferopol is just not enough!
But didn’t they try to desalinate? Some countries get millions of cubic meters of water then they clean it and reuse it for irrigation. I think there will be no problems with fuel, the leaders in gas and nuclear energy.

[Avior]

Pipelines do not solve the main problem - there is not enough water in the Crimea.
It is not enough for agriculture, and in the case of a hot year, like this one, it turns out that it is not enough for the population as well, it was urgently necessary to drop temporary threads.
But water by itself does not appear in pipelines, sources are needed.
Underground sources with a large selection of water are gradually saline.
One way out is to build desalination plants.
Of course, the water in them turns out to be expensive, and unsuitable for agriculture for the price, but as potable, although expensive, it is acceptable.
Most likely, the structure of cx in Crimea will change to the level of the mid-20th century - crop production will become a thing of the past, with the exception of rare "oases", will return to grazing unpretentious sheep on open pastures.

[serg.shishkov2015]

I remember - in * Artek * next to the dining room there was a small structure on which the unfamiliar word “cooling tower” was written. As an adult, I found out that the cooling tower is a unit for desalinating water using atmospheric air

[voyaka uh]

A cooling tower is a unit for cooling water with air.

[serg.shishkov2015]

Here I am about it! A * Artek *, if you remember, in the Crimea! 1983 year!

[Avior]

In the cooling tower, water is not desalinated.
Rather, it was an element of local wastewater treatment plants.

[DED_peer_DED]

The cooling tower serves to cool the heated (in the cooling system) water. This is an element of the cooling system.

[Vadim237]

It is possible to build nuclear power plants with 800 GW BN 6 fast neutron reactors, drill hundreds of wells throughout the Crimea, put electric pumps and pump water from wells into closed storage facilities to avoid loss of water due to evaporation and desalination plants to duplicate wells.

[3danimal]

So they said above that with significant pumping, the wells become saline.

[Vadim237]

Nothing will get clogged there - since production is done in duplicate 50% of the well, 50% of desalination plants thereby provide the wells with normal filling with average production.

[3danimal]

There is a limited amount of water in the soil. You are proposing a megaproject, as a result of which the pumping of water from the wells will increase further.

[A. Privalov]

SIMFEROPOL, Feb 5 - RIA Novosti Crimea. Since February 10, restrictions on water supply have been introduced in Simferopol. The head of the city administration, Elena Protsenko, wrote about this on her Facebook page. As the representative of the city administration clarified to RIA Novosti Crimea, from February 10, hot water will be supplied only on Saturday and Sunday, and cold water - only in the morning and evening.

RIA Novosti Crimea: https://crimea.ria.ru/society/20200205/1117923257/V-Simferopole-vvodyat-zhestkie-grafiki-podachi-vody.html

The thing is lousy. Water conduit is a temporary solution. The Taigan reservoir, it is about 10 million cubic meters of water. It is only 80% full. Simferopol is filled only by a third. With the announced pumping of 60 thousand cubic meters per day, the Taiganskoye will end in 5 months.
A desalination plant and reuse of wastewater is indispensable. This is not cheap, but in this way the problem can be solved.

[rocket757]

The problem can be solved, but first you need to prepare for this, to train the inhabitants themselves.
How to do it? Exhortations will not help here.
Again the ruble, at the price of all limit?

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

but first you need to prepare for this, to train the inhabitants themselves

First you need to repair the communication! Losses of water when supplying through old pipelines are huge.

Quote: rocket757

How to do it?

repair. But people must save.

[rocket757]

Everything must be carried out in a complex! The age of pure water is over. In many places, this has become clearly very.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: A. Privalov

The thing is lousy. Water conduit is a temporary solution.

Quote: Avior

Pipelines do not solve the main problem - there is not enough water in the Crimea.

Can I shake your academic knowledge with my parish?
Who makes you pump water through pipelines from one end of the Crimea to the other, and not from reservoirs from outside?
Look, what a "colza" is looming. The diameter of the pipes for the joint venture with a total length of 2 km allows (when using this pipeline similarity for water with the appropriate structure) to pump in DAY !!! 500 70 000 CUB.METERS !!!
The most interesting thing is that this water can be pumped from different places. The point here is not only that Crimean tomatoes are much more beneficial for the Russian body than Turkish ones, but that with the arrival of large water in the Crimea, the peninsula will live a full-blooded and full-fledged life.
And it would be time for some in power (those sitting in the Kremlin and Moscow) to understand that Crimea is forever. And it’s not necessary to wait for the internal problems to resolve themselves, or they will suddenly be resolved by the “non-brothers”.
It is clear that there are a lot of problems in Crimea, it is clear that they need to be resolved as they become acute and necessary, but it must be remembered that Turkey has never offered to pump water to the Crimea. Why is such neglect to one’s own population?

[forest1]

There, cubic meters are considered at atmospheric pressure, the actual compressed cubic meters are much smaller. Water is 1000 times heavier than gas, and the viscosity of water is also similar. Gas is much easier to pump than liquids. You can see for example the throughput of oil pipelines. I was wondering for a long time to replace the Crimean canal with a water velocity in the pipe of permissible 3m / s. A pipe with a diameter of 9 meters is needed. For example, a friendship pipeline along the northern branch pumps 136000 tons per day in total (cubes in fact) and gas is completely different

[Xopek]

It's not just about speed. A clear example of the effectiveness of capitalism. The contractor called it saved, and further warranty obligations are not a panacea. But the Ministry will have the exact same situation "stole", and really sit down. There will already be a difference in quality.

[3danimal]

This is a good example of a situation where corruption has penetrated everywhere and is the norm.
Germans, Finns normally cope with private companies, as an example.

[rocket757]

Everything again and always stumbles on our inability to use available resources wisely.
The issue price, from and to.

[toha124]

And do not forget, comrades, when units of logistics, engineering, railway and other troops perform "national economic" tasks during natural and man-made disasters, accidents and simply difficult situations, this is an excellent addition to their combat training. A serious test for both commanders and soldiers, especially conscripts. Unfamiliar terrain, interaction with unfamiliar structures, deadlines, nerves ... Just don't shoot overhead.

[DED_peer_DED]

The Ministry of Defense explained that the leadership of the Republic of Crimea appealed to the military department. According to the head of the Crimea, Sergei Aksenov, due to the drought in Simferopol, "a certain water shortage has formed." After the construction of the pipeline, it will become possible to temporarily transfer up to 50 thousand cubic meters of water to the reservoirs of Simferopol.

In the heat to 40 degrees, which is now established in the Kuban and in the Crimea, the idea of ​​transferring water to open reservoirs seems to be harmful. All water will go to evaporation.
In the Kuban, in many cities due to the drought of the past and current years, water supply restrictions have now been introduced. Information went through all the media. At the same time, the Kuban gives a lot of its water to the Crimea.
When they "took Crimea" no one bothered to study the current and future water problem.
The "flight" of the current government of temporary workers and illiterate managers is visible. The drought trend is and will be. The Yankees continue to purposefully hammer the ionosphere with their HAARPs, to the detriment of us and some others. Unfortunately, similar installations that used to work on our territory have not worked for a long time.
"Our power" has the Yankees and Jews as partners, and we are their enemies.
Like this.

[Volder]

Quote: DED_peer_DED

When they "took Crimea" no one bothered to study the current and future water problem.
The "flight" of the current government of temporary workers and illiterate managers is visible.

What are you getting at here? Type Crimea "to take" was not worth it? This is not the Russian government, but the Crimean people made their choice despite all the dangers and risks. It was worth it! And the problem with water has worsened only this year. But there are no unsolvable problems. Sucked.

[New Year day]

Quote: Volder

And the problem with water escalated only this year.

Learn the question! The topic of water shortages has been relevant since the closure of the North Crimean Canal. 6 years depended on the weather. And this year there is no rain

Quote: Volder

But there are no unsolvable problems.

but not solved 6 years

Quote: Volder

They do it.

Through hardship to the stars?

[Volder]

Yes, the topic of water shortage has been relevant for 6 years, but this year it became a hot topic only because of the drought. Accordingly, the problem has not been solved for 6 years, and now it will be solved. There is a saying: until the thunder strikes, the man does not cross himself. In any case, this is not the reason why Crimea should be surrendered. The issue of alienation of the Crimean peninsula is closed.

[Volder]

Anatoly Wasserman in an interview with the Federal News Agency told how the Russian authorities plan to solve the problem of water in the Crimea. According to him, water will be supplied to the peninsula from the mouth of the Kuban River through a water conduit laid along the bottom of the Black Sea (pipes made of synthetic film).

[Free wind]

Those pipes that the soldiers put in the pictures are the technology of the 60s of the last century. Now plastic pipes go in bays. How many meters in a bay depends on the pipe. I saw 200 mm pipes. With proper supply of this pipe 60 km 10 people will lay, lay in a couple of days. To bring pipes from the station, a couple of trailers, an ordinary bortovik with a thief unwinds the bay, and with a simple cart, uniaxial, if only there is something to put on the bay. Well, people 5-6 that the pipes are joined. The joints are different on both couplings and welding. At the junctions, usually 2 brigades by car. That's all it takes, cheaply and sedito. And there is no need to carry out any special operations. It took me all this, I needed to dig a ditch next to it and threw this pipe there, even the current one. What can I say there. And then damn it, trains, 180 units of special equipment, 300 people. Tryndets.

[3danimal]

The army is not about price / quality efficiency

[Volder]

The advantage of iron pipes compared to plastic is that they can withstand a bullet or any other mechanical shock. Also, iron pipes are more durable and affordable (in any region or city of the country). But is it possible to ensure a guaranteed supply of metal-plastic bays in the required quantity in wartime - this is a big question!

[Free wind]

Where are the steel pipes available? All that is available has long since passed everything. Steel pipe production is gradually declining. An automatic bullet pierces the rail ... mmm, and along ... They shoot at the Moscow Military District at the Kazan station, and the exit hole is in Tatarstan, where the piece of iron makes a sharp turn.

[Volder]

I can only repeat what I have already said: steel pipes are more accessible than plastic ones at the moment. This will be crucial in scarce wartime. Engineering and construction troops are imprisoned just under wartime.

[demo]

The problem of water in the Crimea is a stamp of carelessness of our Russian authorities.
This is an assessment of inaction and spinelessness.
This is an indicator of disregard for people.
Well enough about that.

How to solve the problem of water in the Crimea?
Simple enough.
Neither atomic, nor any other devices that are hazardous enough from an environmental point of view should be created.
Right before your eyes is a huge source of water - the Black Sea.
And there is a source of energy - hydrogen sulfide.
From a depth of 150 meters and further, the water is oversaturated with hydrogen sulfide.
It is enough to supply such water to the station, separate the hydrogen sulfide and decompose the latter into sulfur and hydrogen, which, when combined with atmospheric oxygen, gives water. Distilled.
I have long read that a scientist from Krasnodar, it seems from Krasnodar University, made calculations and submitted to the government a fully calculated plan for using hydrogen sulfide to produce hydrogen, electricity, and sulfur.

Sulfur is a valuable raw material for agriculture.
Hydrogen is an equally valuable gas.
Well, water is life.
According to his calculations, a dozen stations on the section from Sochi to Taman could provide the entire European part of Russia with electricity.
Everything else can be said about cleaning the sea from this poisonous gas.
The fact is that seawater purified from gas is discharged back into the sea.
Is it tempting?
Yes.
But where to put Gazprom with its pipes?
However, it’s not Gazprom’s business.
The point is those who think exactly the same way as those by whose will the Crimea was left without water.
Those. power lives only one day, and this day should bring her a profit in her pocket.
Russia is the richest country in terms of intellectual resources, and its leaders not only do not want this potential, but are simply panicky afraid to use it.

[New Year day]

Quote: demo

The problem of water in the Crimea is a stamp of carelessness of our Russian authorities.
This is an assessment of inaction and spinelessness.
This is an indicator of disregard for people.

Gold words! For 6 years they could not repair the sewage discharge and sewage treatment plants in Koktebel! In ONE resort village! Now feces flow into the sea right from the beach!

[petrol cutter]

Pipes - pipes. Transfer-transfer ... This does not solve the problem as a whole.
This is throwing, patching holes.
An eco-disaster on the peninsula has really matured. And I’m telling you as a person living here.
Earlier for these conversations (and I repeatedly started talking about this) - you were stupidly sent to hell ...
Now the problems can no longer be hidden. And you can talk about it.
So here. The issue is not resolved by any means.
Armyansk alone needs thousands of tons of water to operate the plant.
Otherwise, or stop the company (and where to put employees?) Who will feed them?
Well, etc. etc.

[3danimal]

Increase subsidies, artificially support the work of enterprises. Enough money for now ..

[petrol cutter]

So for six years, artificially supported. This cannot go on forever. However.
Already announced the evacuation of the city that season.

[3danimal]

It was necessary to think over in 2014m. As we like, with a snap and maybe ..

[petrol cutter]

It was necessary to. But, nevertheless, we have what we have. And we have to work with this. I mean, do something. However.

[3danimal]

Trying to make concessions, stop supporting the DNR-LNR in exchange for improved relations and water supply. (Maximum option to return the water supply to the "pre-Crimean" level)

[petrol cutter]

Only the President will decide such issues. None of us, however.

[3danimal]

But we are discussing issues (water supply options), to the implementation of which we have nothing to do. Someone suggests starting a war, which the president must also decide. I suggested a more reasonable option.

[petrol cutter]

I do not understand. A reasonable option is to abandon LDNR today ?!
Tomorrow abandon me with the Crimea !? After tomorrow, give up Vladivostok, then Novosib, etc.?
Immediately, no.

[3danimal]

I see a big difference between the Crimea and the LNR-DNR, which have rolled into a gangster outlaw (IMHO). And this will give YOU much-needed water.
The war option is even worse, I’m sure.
P.S. So why immediately bring to the point of absurdity?

[3danimal]

I will add: LDNR is NOT the territory of the Russian Federation and will NOT become it (so that “field commanders” would not be promised to residents who were trapped), a lot of relevant statements by state officials confirm this. Therefore, in no way can be equated with Novosib.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: 3danimal

It was necessary to think over in 2014m. As we like, with a snap and maybe ..

Right It was necessary to immediately build a bridge to the Crimea, and roads to it (iron and for cars), more or less the resort area, and restore the sewage treatment plant, and put the desalination plant, and if not it, extend water pipes from the Kuban or the central part Of Russia.
And in the rest of Russia they will somehow get rid of those leftover money, if anything else remains from the budget. And they live so well.

[Thunderbolt]

The best pipeline for supplying water to Simferopol is a strategic offensive operation of a group of fronts with access to the lines of Lutsk-Lvov-Uzhgorod

[3danimal]

But then we will declare war? To be honest?
And such an operation will have its own price.

[bogart047]

why so abruptly? Would wait another 6 years ...

[3danimal]

The price of declaring war (in fact) may be higher than maintaining a “half-living” state.

[storm]

To pump serious volumes of water at the level of reservoirs, the diameter of the pipelines must be from a meter or more, and not those "tubes" that the soldiers are loading.
I agree with Damir, civil construction companies should do this, according to the approved project, with the construction of pumping stations, water treatment plants, deepening pipes below the freezing depth of the soil, and not a plumbing construction site with its own temporary huts ....

[storm]

Crimea should develop a network of desalination plants for sea water, following the example of Israel.
Solar power plants and wind generators are being built that provide desalination plants with energy. Desalinated water is sold to farmers who, with enough water and electricity, can grow several crops a year.

[sen]

A bridge to the Crimea was built, and the aqueduct next to it, instead of the Ukrainian channel, can we?

[Evil 55]

It is high time to install desalination plants, as in Israel, together with solar stations .. and not single objects, but to form a system, then the jumpers will also come "for water" ..

[sen]

On the territory of Crimea there are high-temperature centers - underground vaporization zones (desalination plants) with temperatures from 100 to 200 degrees Celsius - are located under the Ai-Petrinskaya Yayla at a depth of about two and a half kilometers. Their diameter is 2,5 and four kilometers.
According to the authors of the study, steam from the boiling zone rises along the faults, and then, at depths of 930-1100 meters, it condenses in the form of hot - 80-85 degrees Celsius - geothermal solutions. Closer to the surface in the karst cavities of limestone and in coarse-grained sandstones, underground lakes and fresh water lenses are formed with a slight pressure and temperature of 25-30 degrees. Residual saline geothermal brine flows through tectonic cracks from the lower part of the vaporization zone at depths of 2000-2500 meters.
“There is no sensation in what we have found,” Kovalev notes. “It has long been known that there are deep fresh waters in the Crimea. They have been pouring out on their own for many years, giving out at least two thousand cubic meters per day, while the debit of ordinary wells is 100-200 cubic meters ".
According to scientists, the deep tectonic faults of the Crimea are potential aquifers that do not require financial costs for construction and maintenance.
https://ria.ru/20200706/1573871295.html

The mechanism of formation of groundwater near magmatic foci

Map-diagram of the movement of underground flows in the surveyed areas of Crimea

[3danimal]

They definitely won’t come, the volumes of fresh water are more than sufficient. But the problem with water in the Crimea could be solved (maybe). Question: Will the desalination stations be local or imported?

[Rustam Sadriev]

In general, the military has its own technology for assembling pipelines to each other using a special connection, which is very quickly mounted without welding and flies over the surface of the earth. Installation of 60 km will take several weeks.

[Angrybeard]

So that they didn’t do anything at all. And the wells, and the construction of the pipeline to the east of Crimea. But this is in case there is no drought. But she came, and can last 5 and 10 years, the temperature is growing steadily. To solve this problem, you need something more than moving dry puddles back and forth .. and you had to do this 6 years ago.

[AclfgKt8]

You correctly noticed

[AclfgKt8]

Thanks to the military for operational assistance to the Crimea!

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: sen

On the territory of Crimea there are high-temperature centers - underground vaporization zones (desalination plants) with temperatures from 100 to 200 degrees Celsius - are located under the Ai-Petrinskaya Yayla at a depth of about two and a half kilometers. Their diameter is 2,5 and four kilometers.
According to the authors of the study, steam from the boiling zone rises along the faults, and then, at depths of 930-1100 meters, it condenses in the form of hot - 80-85 degrees Celsius - geothermal solutions. Closer to the surface in the karst cavities of limestone and in coarse-grained sandstones, underground lakes and fresh water lenses are formed with a slight pressure and temperature of 25-30 degrees. Residual saline geothermal brine flows through tectonic cracks from the lower part of the vaporization zone at depths of 2000-2500 meters.
“There is no sensation in what we have found,” Kovalev notes. “It has long been known that there are deep fresh waters in the Crimea. They have been pouring out on their own for many years, giving out at least two thousand cubic meters per day, while the debit of ordinary wells is 100-200 cubic meters ".
According to scientists, the deep tectonic faults of the Crimea are potential aquifers that do not require financial costs for construction and maintenance.
https://ria.ru/20200706/1573871295.html

The mechanism of formation of groundwater near magmatic foci

Map-diagram of the movement of underground flows in the surveyed areas of Crimea

what will you answer me on this article !!! pliz just do not include demagogy.
https://lenta.ru/news/2020/06/19/water_crimea/

[sen]

Well, firstly, not you, but you, and secondly similar articles - both refer to Nikolai Kovalev, but in my link the article is more detailed and the resource is more reliable - not lenta.ru.

[76rtbr]

Quote: smart fellow

punched holes from the machine

fifth grade level scribble !!

[76rtbr]

Quote: Petrol cutter

tomorrow abandon Vladivostok

Hey, hey, hey, be quiet, only with RMB for the edge !!! I’m living near here !!