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US intends to explore the moon together with Japan

The United States will explore the moon together with Japan. As the Japanese media write, NASA and the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology of Japan have signed a corresponding declaration.


According to The Nikkei, the signed declaration provides for the landing of partners on the moon by 2024, as well as Japan’s participation in the creation of the Gateway near-moon station. Other clauses of the agreement are not given. As previously reported, the Japanese government announced a decision to join NASA's lunar program last October.

The American program for the exploration of the Moon was called Artemis and consists of three stages: at the first stage, the Orion ship must make an unmanned flight around the Moon and return to Earth (second half of 2020). In the second stage, in 2022, the Americans planned a manned flyby of the Earth’s natural satellite, and in the third, in 2024, NASA expects astronauts to land on the moon.

Russia previously also participated in the program for creating a near-moon station, but later withdrew from it, since the whole role of Russia was only to create a gateway module and life support systems.

Currently, Russia is implementing its own lunar program. According to it, in October 2021, the Luna-25 automatic station will be launched to the Moon. In the future, as part of the lunar program, after sending the Luna-25 spacecraft, it is planned to send the Luna-2024 orbital station to the Earth satellite in 26, and the Luna-2025 landing station in 27.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 July 2020 11: 42 New
    -6
    And what will they say by November? Are the PR people warming up?
    1. Vestovoi
      Vestovoi 11 July 2020 11: 50 New
      -13
      US intends to explore the moon together with Japan

      Naturally, at her expense .. How much the USA should be there for my mother ... trillions?)))))
    2. halpat
      halpat 11 July 2020 13: 40 New
      -5
      Quote: tralflot1832
      And what will they say by November? Are the PR people warming up?

      In November, they will polls kiss dirty black sneakers.
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 12 July 2020 01: 35 New
        0
        Quote: Halpat
        dirty black sneakers.

        Blacks love their sneakers and keep them perfectly clean
  2. iouris
    iouris 11 July 2020 11: 43 New
    +6
    Rogozin was left to explore the invisible side of the moon.
    1. slipped
      slipped 11 July 2020 12: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: iouris
      Rogozin was left to explore the invisible side of the moon.


      Next summer, tests of the Luna-25 AMS will be completed. In October, the launch at the South Pole of the moon in the crater of Boguslavsky.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 July 2020 12: 40 New
        +5
        It's good. Good luck The successful landing of the Moon-25 will spur competition.
        Everyone will start.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 11 July 2020 12: 52 New
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          It's good. Good luck The successful landing of the Moon-25 will spur competition.
          Everyone will start.

          I don’t know anymore ... what can spur the leadership of Russia ... there are already keen on competition who has a longer yacht ..not the moon.
          1. slipped
            slipped 11 July 2020 13: 07 New
            -8
            Quote: Svarog
            I don’t know already ... what can spur the leadership of Russia ...


            Russia is not going to "run headlong" towards the moon. This has been said more than once. We have our own Lunar program and will begin to be implemented next year.



            In the current federal space program, these are the launches of the Moon-25,26,27, the testing of the PTK NP Orel and the creation of the A5B carrier, based on A5. As well as testing the first stage of the Soyuz-5 carrier for its subsequent use in the Yenisei STK.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 11 July 2020 13: 19 New
              -3
              Russia is not going to "run headlong"

              That's for sure .. step forward two back ..
              We have our own Lunar program and will begin to be implemented next year.

              Huge plans .. only here the programs we have have the property not to be executed .. where 25 ml. work places? And with such oil prices and the general situation with the economy, doubts take me .. not even doubts, but the confidence that this program will be postponed again for 5 years .. and this is at best ..
              https://news.mail.ru/economics/42532205/?frommail=1
              read haters ...
              1. slipped
                slipped 11 July 2020 13: 33 New
                +1
                Quote: Svarog
                that for 5 years this program will again be delayed ..


                November 2020 - tests of the second A5 rocket (Plesetsk)
                October 2021 - Launch of the Luna-25 landing aircraft on the Soyuz-2.1b rocket (Baikonur)
                The 2023rd year - the launch of the prototype PTK NP Orel on the A5 launch vehicle with boosted RD-191M engines, without crew. (Oriental)
                The year 2023 is the launch of the first Soyuz-5 launch vehicle. (Baikonur)
                Year 2024 - tests of the first A5M rocket. (Oriental)
                The 2024th year - the launch of the PTK NP on the A5P LV without a crew. (Oriental)
                2024th year - launch of the Luna-26 orbital AMS
                2025 year - launch of the PTK NP on the A5P LV with the crew to the ISS. (Oriental)
                2025th year - launch of the Luna-27 landing AMS

                this is what concerns the current PCF.
            2. kenig1
              kenig1 11 July 2020 15: 18 New
              0
              Here the main word is "start", and the rest is then silence ....
            3. harpsichord
              harpsichord 11 July 2020 15: 42 New
              -4
              And in what place, excuse me, is she going to "run headlong"? Can. on asteroids? To Mars? Titanium?
              I would be very grateful for an indication of a specific direction.
              1. slipped
                slipped 11 July 2020 19: 20 New
                +1
                Quote: harpsichord
                And in what place, excuse me, is she going to "run headlong"?


                Can't you read? laughing Why run when you can calmly go? laughing In Russia, all space plans are being consistently implemented.

                Quote: harpsichord
                Can. on asteroids? To Mars? Titanium?


                Around Mars, the TGO orbital module of the Russian-European ExoMars program is now flying. Russian scientists are constantly remotely sensing Mars.



                here from a recent ESA from this unit, a compilation of a photo with the Korolev crater



                Within the framework of the same program, the Russian Cossack assault module with a long-lived planetary station is ready and tested in Russia; the launch of the next mission is scheduled for the year 2022.

                Quote: harpsichord
                I would be very grateful for an indication of a specific direction.


                Read the federal space program on the Roskosmos website.
                1. harpsichord
                  harpsichord 11 July 2020 19: 33 New
                  -4
                  Ah, sorry. what has been traveling on Mars for a long time? And what flew beyond the limits of the solar system? And to asteroids, even if it flies calmly, then what?
                  1. slipped
                    slipped 11 July 2020 19: 40 New
                    0
                    Quote: harpsichord
                    Ah, sorry. what has been traveling on Mars for a long time?


                    Inadequate? lol The DAN neutron detector drives an American Mars rover, and for a long time. By the way, he sent a lot of interesting things. laughing

                    Quote: harpsichord
                    And what flew beyond the limits of the solar system? And to asteroids, even if it flies calmly, then what?


                    But why? laughing Now we have other plans, only recently an astrophysical observatory was brought to the point L2 and we are scanning ALL the starry sky. Of the next interplanetary flights, we land on the Moon in 2021, land on Mars in 2022, and scan from the orbit of Mercury in the Beppy Colombo mission in 2025. Well, two more devices to the moon at the same time.
                    1. harpsichord
                      harpsichord 11 July 2020 19: 44 New
                      -4
                      Tk nadys asteroid all of iron, gold, etc. And you mean Kepler intimidate?
                      No, well, if other plans are for Zimbabwe.
                    2. harpsichord
                      harpsichord 11 July 2020 19: 49 New
                      -1
                      "The DAN neutron detector drives an American Mars rover, and for a long time. Sent a lot of interesting things, by the way."
                      And do not be discouraged with this. Was reading. they even wanted to put two bolts there, but it didn’t work out ...
                      1. harpsichord
                        harpsichord 11 July 2020 19: 56 New
                        -1
                        “we have a landing on the moon in 2021, a landing on Mars in 2022, and scanning from the orbit of Mercury in the Beppy Colombo mission in 2025. Well, there are two more devices to the moon at the same time.”
                        Dreams, dreams, where is your ... And basically they are reset to zero.
                        And so how many years?
                        What year do you start? Since 2002?
                      2. slipped
                        slipped 11 July 2020 20: 12 New
                        0
                        Quote: harpsichord
                        And do not be discouraged with this. Was reading. they even wanted to put two bolts there, but it didn’t work out ...


                        What didn’t happen there? lol Can't you count two by two? laughing

                        Since Mars Express, we have directly observed water ice on Mars, and DAN also scanned the surface a meter in depth.

                        Quote: harpsichord
                        Dreams, dreams, where is your ... And basically they are reset to zero.
                        And so how many years?


                        You can read about the launch of the Luna-25 AMS next year on the store’s website in the news from the sixth of July this year. Here is a link to you https://www.laspace.ru/press/news/projects/06072020/

                        Beppy Colombo’s device was launched in 2018 and successfully flies to Mercury.

                        What is your "zeroing" out there? lol
                      3. harpsichord
                        harpsichord 11 July 2020 20: 20 New
                        +2
                        BepiColombo is a joint space automatic mission of the European Space Agency and the Japan Aerospace Research Agency for the Study of Mercury. Rocket-Arian-5 ECA. Have you supplied bolts there too? I do not believe.
                        And about the following years, you and Rogozin write well.
                        But there is a problem. To fantasize (sorry for not convincing a word and to do are two different things. To fantasize is about Rogozin and about you. A good thing to do quickly and efficiently is about Elon Mask
                      4. slipped
                        slipped 11 July 2020 20: 27 New
                        0
                        Quote: harpsichord
                        Have you supplied bolts there too? I do not believe.


                        Wow. Stanislavsky? lol

                        On this spacecraft are both completely Russian and joint space devices.

                        MGNS ("Mercury gamma and neutron spectrometer") - the study of the elemental composition of the surface material of Mercury, which will clarify the understanding of the formation and evolution of the planet; measuring the ratio of potassium to thorium and comparing this value with those known about other planets of the earth's group, as well as studying the polar regions of Mercury and comparing them with the polar regions of the Moon. The device was developed in the Department of Nuclear Planetology, IKI RAS.

                        PHEBUS - ultraviolet spectrometer for measuring the composition and dynamics of the exosphere of Mercury. The lead developer is the French National Center for Space Research. The development of the Planet Physics Department of the IKI RAS is an input optical unit with a device guidance system in a given direction. Also involved in the development of Japan.

                        Picam - A panoramic energy-mass spectrometer of positively charged ions in the plasma complex SERENA, a joint development by scientists from Austria, France and Russia. The main objective of the experiment is to study the flow of ions from the surface of the planet and the ions of the solar wind in the magnetosphere of Mercury, and thus, the study of the soil of Mercury and its interaction with the exosphere of the planet. The purpose of the experiment is to determine the chemical composition of the soil, to study the physical processes of the ejection of neutral particles from the surface, and to measure the fluxes of magnetospheric ions that return to the surface; to understand whether the ionosphere exists in Mercury and how plasma convection near it occurs, to clarify the structure of the magnetosphere and the features of its interaction with the solar wind. The contribution of IKI RAS is the development of an electron-optical circuit.

                        You can consider the Europeans and the Japanese just cabbies. lol

                        Quote: harpsichord
                        And about the following years, you and Rogozin write well.
                        But there is a problem. To fantasize (sorry for not convincing a word and to do are two different things. To fantasize is about Rogozin and about you. A good thing to do quickly and efficiently is about Elon Mask


                        A sectarian. Clear. lol You usually see the figs on the fence.
                      5. harpsichord
                        harpsichord 11 July 2020 20: 29 New
                        -2
                        No, I know. This suggests that we are still invited to ride in a cart - for now. Yes. and do not throw trampolines.
                      6. slipped
                        slipped 11 July 2020 20: 31 New
                        +1
                        Quote: harpsichord
                        No, I know.


                        Wow. Not Stanislavsky however. laughing Do you do Labuda?

                        Quote: harpsichord
                        This suggests that we are still invited to ride in a cart - for now. Yes. and do not throw trampolines.


                        By the way, another American Mars rover is flying from our trampoline. I know? laughing
                      7. harpsichord
                        harpsichord 11 July 2020 20: 39 New
                        -2
                        Read at least this - the Russian mission in the mission and compare it with the ones - and most importantly with the technological complexity of the work of others - how many devices are there?
                        And of course you can be proud of several Russian devices - if you really need it and there is nothing more.
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/BepiColombo
                      8. slipped
                        slipped 11 July 2020 20: 42 New
                        -1
                        Quote: harpsichord
                        Read at least this -


                        Does it burn in you? laughing I told you clearly - we are interested in specific questions about Mercury, so there are specific instruments there.

                        Planetary research in Russia is now going in one direction - we are looking for water on nearby planets. They found water ice on the Moon, and found it on Mars too. Next in line is Mercury.

                        Explain why water? laughing
                      9. harpsichord
                        harpsichord 11 July 2020 20: 45 New
                        -1
                        And have you drunk a lot? To what depth in search of ice? How many countries have placed their tiny devices in the void of your search stations. planet rovers and drilling?
                      10. slipped
                        slipped 11 July 2020 20: 47 New
                        0
                        Quote: harpsichord
                        And have you drunk a lot? To what depth in search of ice? How many countries have placed their tiny devices in the void of your search stations. planet rovers and drilling?


                        Drilling is the second step. First you need to find. Found - made maps. The next step is a long-term planetary Martian station, which will be delivered by the Cossack.

                        In general, Luna-27 will already be drilling on the Moon.
                      11. harpsichord
                        harpsichord 11 July 2020 20: 51 New
                        0
                        So. On the moon, NASA found forty craters with water - at the pole. Even our wiki wrote about this. The ice was found using an M3 mapping spectrometer (Moon Minearology Mapper) sent to the moon in 2008 together with the Indian satellite Chandrayan-1.
                        So you with your searches ahead of the rest. only let Rogozin not recognize Putin.
                      12. slipped
                        slipped 11 July 2020 20: 53 New
                        -2
                        Quote: harpsichord
                        So. On the moon, NASA found forty craters with water - at the pole. Even our wiki wrote about this. The ice was found using an M3 mapping spectrometer (Moon Minearology Mapper) sent to the moon in 2008 together with the Indian satellite Chandrayan-1.


                        And then we installed our LAND on their LRO laughing and compiled their map of the moon with the arrangement of water ice.

                        Quote: harpsichord
                        So you with your searches ahead of the rest. only let Rogozin not recognize Putin.


                        And for the first time in the world we discovered water ice on Mars. laughing We were the first there. laughing
                      13. harpsichord
                        harpsichord 11 July 2020 20: 55 New
                        -2
                        How nice. This is in the prehistoric era, right? But fresh in development - Lunar Mission One. 100 meters of drilling. among other things.
                      14. slipped
                        slipped 11 July 2020 20: 58 New
                        -2
                        Quote: harpsichord
                        How nice. This is in the prehistoric era, right?


                        Not from the European Mars Express, which they themselves launched to Mars.

                        Quote: harpsichord
                        But fresh in development - Lunar Mission One. 100 meters of drilling. among other things.


                        Yes, at least 200. As you can’t understand, we don’t need to drill for the sake of drilling - all our work is going in a certain direction. In drilling, we generally deliver cryogrunt to Earth.
                      15. harpsichord
                        harpsichord 11 July 2020 21: 18 New
                        -1
                        Yes. The soldiers remember the days past - and some inferior, if not offensive, today's creeps. Space, like many other things, is almost lost. Unfortunately. Rare sparks, but nothing from the fire ...
                        And to throw people into it and money, and friendly relations with the whole world, with neighbors - there is no possibility. Lost
                      16. slipped
                        slipped 11 July 2020 21: 22 New
                        -2
                        Quote: harpsichord
                        Lost


                        Sectarian and bot in one bottle. laughing Read more books to broaden your horizons. Yes, soon see how another American Mars rover will take off from our trampoline.
                      17. harpsichord
                        harpsichord 11 July 2020 21: 32 New
                        0
                        Oh well. and you get paid for the cheat. uncle - go to the fool. It is clear that there is nothing to cover.
                      18. slipped
                        slipped 11 July 2020 21: 33 New
                        -2
                        Quote: harpsichord
                        Oh well. and you get paid for the cheat. uncle - go to the fool. It is clear that there is nothing to cover.


                        yes already covered lol still paste? laughing
                      19. harpsichord
                        harpsichord 11 July 2020 21: 38 New
                        -1
                        So they covered it - your dog will have puppies ... and ask her to "insert more", the Wagnerites in Libya have asked ... and how they asked in Syria - horror ... So it's better for your dog. it's safer, you know ...
  3. harpsichord
    harpsichord 11 July 2020 20: 26 New
    -1
    You see, slipped. it's good. that Russia is attracted to space missions, then. Not everything is lost.
    But Russia does not attract anyone. There is nothing to attract. It does not fly anywhere yet - and in the foreseeable future, alas. also. All for children. sorry. Rogozin babble.
  4. slipped
    slipped 11 July 2020 20: 38 New
    -1
    Quote: harpsichord
    You see, slipped. it's good. that Russia is attracted to space missions, then. Not everything is lost. But Russia does not attract anyone. There is nothing to attract. It does not fly anywhere yet - and in the foreseeable future, alas. also. All for children. sorry. Rogozin babble.


    Why are you lying then? Or are you another dunno? laughing

    Russia itself attracts others to space missions. We have many collaborations with ESA on the Moon and Mars, and on large space observatories. Of the next launches - their cameras are on the "Moon-25", and their rover Rosalind Franklin will deliver our "Cossack" to Mars in 2022.

    We have Indian cosmonauts training in the CPC and we help them make their own ship. We have a moon working group with China. We even have a working group on Venus with the Americans.

    I see that this is your baby talk. laughing Learn to use the Internet le. lol
  5. harpsichord
    harpsichord 11 July 2020 20: 42 New
    -1
    Good luck of course to the Cossacks, micro and very micro to everyone there, who will be taken to Rosalind Franklin. there is always a little space left. which can and should be given as unnecessary for political purposes.
  6. Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga 11 July 2020 20: 52 New
    +1
    What are you arguing with the cat talking ?!
  7. slipped
    slipped 11 July 2020 21: 06 New
    -2
    Quote: Local from the Volga
    What are you arguing with the cat talking ?!


    cool to teach a schoolboy laughing
  8. harpsichord
    harpsichord 11 July 2020 21: 29 New
    -4
    Not a schoolboy. Sensible schoolchildren unlearned - and to the Mask, and .... - to Rogozin. That’s why it either doesn’t fly, or whisk it - it flies at random, or mournful songs are sung, that money was plundered to Vostochny again, or holes are in the wrong places ... And therefore, you write unconvincingly, gentlemen, you need Rogozin and the Kremlin farm training manuals renew. But again - sensible schoolchildren unlearned and ...
  9. slipped
    slipped 11 July 2020 21: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: harpsichord
    Not a schoolboy.


    Student? lol cool too.
  10. harpsichord
    harpsichord 11 July 2020 21: 41 New
    -3
    Well, just wonderful teachers - the whole world is taught. Shaw of the Chinese, Shaw of the Indians ... backward peoples. fly onto the baubles, however ...
    Surround yourself. lovely ones. Your steam engine is gone.
  • Letun
    Letun 11 July 2020 14: 17 New
    +6
    Quote: slipped
    Next summer, tests of the Luna-25 AMS will be completed. In October, the launch at the South Pole of the moon in the crater of Boguslavsky.

    Will end? Right so categorically? According to Rogozhkin’s plans, we already have a base on the moon to function. Are there really people who perceive the chatter of this red-necked dumbass at face value? request
    1. slipped
      slipped 11 July 2020 19: 32 New
      -2
      Quote: Letun
      Will end? Right so categorically?


      Yes, so categorically on the developer's site https://www.laspace.ru/press/news/projects/06072020/

      Quote: Letun
      According to Rogozhkin’s plans, we already have a base on the moon to function.


      Lies. The base on the moon is planned after the year 2030.

      Quote: Letun
      Are there really people who perceive the chatter of this red-necked dumbass at face value? request


      And you have what color of erysipelas, you can ask? laughing Negro what? lol
  • military_cat
    military_cat 11 July 2020 11: 45 New
    +5
    Not only with Japan, but also with ESA and Canada (an agreement was concluded with them last year).
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 11 July 2020 15: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: military_cat
      Not only with Japan, but also with ESA and Canada

      Let them first their astronauts, safely return to Earth. And then they flew for 2 days, but they were stuck there for the second month. Maybe we don’t finish something?
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 11 July 2020 19: 22 New
        +1
        They said before the flight that not for two days. Just the author, we have one lover of fakes
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 July 2020 11: 46 New
    -1
    As the Japanese media write, NASA and the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology of Japan have signed a corresponding declaration.
    Why didn't the Ministry of Health “sign”? The coronavirus mericatos with ipens will be brought to the moon, then what should I do? Then send our RBMB there, water everything after their flights? wink
  • rocket757
    rocket757 11 July 2020 11: 46 New
    +4
    Now another moon race ...
    Everyone chases, as if behind their tail ...
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 11 July 2020 11: 55 New
      -2
      Have the Chinese given the go-ahead?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 11 July 2020 12: 26 New
        0
        The Chinese are on their own and they seem to be a breed without a tail. Therefore, carousels are not satisfied, but the rod does not stop at its goal.
    2. Vestovoi
      Vestovoi 11 July 2020 11: 55 New
      -5
      Quote: rocket757
      Now another moon race ...
      Everyone chases, as if behind their tail ...

      I hope Russia does not lead to this fake. As before Reagan missile defense in space?. Again, they want Russia to spin up for an arms race, etc. ..
      We have something to bang on and we will deal with our internal problems ..
      Grantoedov inside Russia divorced too many of you .. negative
      It's time to clean up! bully
      1. Simon schempp
        Simon schempp 11 July 2020 12: 06 New
        -7
        Again they want to promote Russia in an arms race, etc. ..

        Well, of course. Billions of dollars spent. Dozens of space programs. Tens of thousands of engineers, scientists, programmers involved.
        And all for the sake of drawing Russia into the arms race.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 11 July 2020 12: 19 New
          -6
          Yes, we are already drawn in. Let them catch up!
          1. Vestovoi
            Vestovoi 11 July 2020 13: 24 New
            -4
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Yes, we are already drawn in. Let them catch up!

            Well, here you are a little right .. the "partners" are nervous .. !!!
          2. lis-ik
            lis-ik 11 July 2020 17: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Yes, we are already drawn in. Let them catch up!

            More specific please. Where did you get involved, when and how? Except Rogozin's chatter.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 11 July 2020 12: 29 New
        +1
        Many necessary things must be realized!
        But, lunar, Martian, space affairs aside cannot be postponed. Here, after all, a serious military component is present!
        Expensively, but we must keep up ... according to our plan, of course.
      3. slipped
        slipped 11 July 2020 12: 54 New
        +4
        Our task now is to work out the Angara rocket in real flights in both heavy and light versions. The A5B rocket with a hydrogen stage will allow delivering about 10 tons of payload to the orbit of the moon. It is quite inexpensive and pragmatic.

        For example, it could be a module of the Russian near-moon station based on the backup of the pressurized compartment of the NEM module for the ISS and the service module of the Orel spacecraft. The total weight of the structure after retrofitting is 12,5 tons.

        Similar designs are not new. Even DOS "Salyut-1" had in its composition PAO "Union".
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 11 July 2020 16: 11 New
          +1
          Quote: slipped
          For example, it could be a module of the Russian near-moon station

          It may not be. Personally, I am happy with reckless and absolutely inadequate optimism about the capabilities of the Russian space industry, which I periodically observe. It will not come out to hide the flagrant discrepancy between the results of promises and ambitions, and maybe at least after that someone will think to what extent they are ready to seriously refuse completely once real things that are valuable to them and expensive, which could be without any discounts to be proud, for the sake of the policy pursued by the authorities.
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 11 July 2020 17: 23 New
            -1
            I absolutely do not understand the strategy of Russia in space. What do we want to get. While it looks like: where everything is, there we are. Instead of focusing on the important and necessary, spraying on a lot of projects without obtaining final results.
            1. slipped
              slipped 11 July 2020 19: 01 New
              -1
              Quote: Grazdanin
              I absolutely do not understand the strategy of Russia in space ..


              Read the federal space program. Everything is clear and understandable there.
              1. Grazdanin
                Grazdanin 11 July 2020 19: 02 New
                -1
                It’s also written on the fence, and there is firewood.
                1. slipped
                  slipped 11 July 2020 19: 22 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Grazdanin
                  It’s also written on the fence, and there is firewood.


                  If it’s written on the fence that there is firewood and there really is firewood, but you don’t believe it, these are your problems lol
          2. slipped
            slipped 11 July 2020 19: 06 New
            -2
            Quote: military_cat
            It may not be.


            It may not be. if they decide to use only machines.

            Quote: military_cat
            Personally, I am happy with reckless and absolutely inadequate optimism about the capabilities of the Russian space industry, which I periodically observe.


            What are you watching there? laughing

            Quote: military_cat
            in all seriousness to abandon once quite real things


            From what "things are in full seriousness"? You give specifics, not general slogans.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 July 2020 11: 57 New
      -1
      So there is reason to strive, on the Moon, trillions of tons of rare-earth metals, in the form of fragments of iron meteorites and asteroids, unlike the Earth, all this is on the surface.
      1. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 11 July 2020 17: 24 New
        0
        Very, very expensive resources come out, but after ten years, anything can be.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 11 July 2020 18: 55 New
          +4
          The reusable first stages of the rockets as well as the reusable capsule-type cargo ships to help as well as the super-heavy carrier rocket - all this SpaceX has at the moment they will use all this in the future to extract minerals on the Moon and create satellites and robotic mining machines for the conditions of the Moon there will not be one ounce of Platinum costs $ 1928 Iridium $ 600 Osmium $ 20000 per gram Palladium $ 2795 per ounce. All costs will pay off very quickly.
          1. 5-9
            5-9 12 July 2020 09: 14 New
            0
            With the economy of reusable stages performed by the Mask, it is not completely clear.
    4. donavi49
      donavi49 11 July 2020 12: 17 New
      +7
      And also Martian. Into the club of the USA, USSR, Europe and India intends to break into the UAE with AMC Nadezhda. They fly on July 14 on a Japanese rocket.



      Following the Chinese fly with the rover. And the Americans with the heaviest rover in history and the first Martian UAV helicopter.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 11 July 2020 12: 36 New
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        And the density of the atmosphere of Mars will allow the helicopter blades to work as they should. Forgive me not good. In Hollywood like Schwartz, pressure turned into a perch raised from a depth.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 11 July 2020 12: 55 New
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          Lets, there they calculated their size under the atmosphere of Mars
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 11 July 2020 13: 07 New
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            The diameter is probably atomic or the speed of rotation of the blades. The speed has limitations. What to argue the models in the pressure chambers they probably experienced and here is the result. In general, it was small when the Voyagers started and they all fly. And my life passed.
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 11 July 2020 13: 03 New
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          They specifically designed one that will fly there.


          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 11 July 2020 13: 12 New
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            And how much is enough for him. Not expected take-off, selfie with Martians. Trump president for life.
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 11 July 2020 13: 18 New
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              Not for long, but he has a solar panel so he will smoke on the Mars rover and charge. From time to time, raise, inspect the area and back to the nest.
            2. donavi49
              donavi49 11 July 2020 13: 51 New
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              He will live on a rover. Flying over short distances, for reconnaissance (choosing a path) or for viewing places inaccessible to the rover. It will fly away 500-600 meters from the rover, and then it will land and charge.
            3. lis-ik
              lis-ik 11 July 2020 17: 28 New
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              Quote: tralflot1832
              . Trump president for life

              And this one also reset? When managed?
              1. 5-9
                5-9 12 July 2020 09: 16 New
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                He has Melania young and pretty, Ivana is also sexy and not a fool, plus a son-in-law from a good Jewish family
                .. Do you think he just about 2036 stalked? :)
    5. krops777
      krops777 11 July 2020 17: 02 New
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      Now another moon race ...


      So it’s understandable, the Americans are in a hurry, it is urgent to protect the place of the last landing, otherwise the unpleasant truth would be revealed.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 11 July 2020 17: 52 New
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        Very similar to that. Because they are chasing their tail, there is a need to clean them.
  • shgfacfdd
    shgfacfdd 11 July 2020 12: 01 New
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    With space facilities, and their financing, there is no doubt that the Americans are the first to implement these programs.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 11 July 2020 12: 19 New
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    US intends to explore the moon together with Japan
    Brilliant! repeat They found a macaque, which they will carry chestnuts from the fire. request
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 11 July 2020 12: 26 New
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    why is it not written in the article where they are going to explore the moon? again in the pavilions of Hollywood? or transfer the exploration of the Moon into the Sahara desert .. for realistic exploration?
    1. SNEAKY
      SNEAKY 11 July 2020 12: 42 New
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      hi Well, you know, at the level of past technologies, yes. The noble affiliate has turned out.
      And now realize the plans with the Japanese do not go to a fortuneteller.
      Here, either kindly envy, or launch after nanosatellites with electronic warfare from Skolkovo laughing
      Left behind forever, alas.
  • 1536
    1536 11 July 2020 12: 30 New
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    Will the indigenous inhabitants of the moon be exterminated? And then "repent"?
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 11 July 2020 13: 02 New
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      Dunno, I am sorry to urgently put him a couple of "crowbars".
  • Poetry
    Poetry 11 July 2020 12: 37 New
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    It’s strange. The Americans flew to the moon as their home in the late 60s, but then forgot how to do it. There are many pavilions in Hollywood; they can drive them to Mars and Saturn.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 July 2020 17: 16 New
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      In someone's sick fantasies and empty pavilions of skull boxes.
  • Junior Private
    Junior Private 11 July 2020 12: 39 New
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    Purely historically interesting, who will be considered the first to set foot on the moon - American or Japanese?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 11 July 2020 12: 56 New
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      American, they flew in 60 years of the 20th century.
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 11 July 2020 13: 08 New
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    Why, American cinema can no longer fly to the moon? Stanley Kubrick is over, do you need Japanese directors? wassat
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 11 July 2020 13: 27 New
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    Shaw to master the gut thin? But what about the pins on the moon? Was it a fairy tale? winked
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 11 July 2020 13: 31 New
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    And what's so worthy of such a loud headline? Money plus technology plus programmers are zealous. The usual process.
  • Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 11 July 2020 13: 33 New
    +2
    I bought a plot on the moon, I have all the documents. If the Americans and the Japanese in my area will conduct economic activities, Russia will protect my interests?
    Or the primacy of our law over international law was introduced into the constitution for a red word?
    It is clear that I will send notes of protest, express extreme concern, but you can’t count on a country in this matter.
    If the site was Gazprom, then they would have equipped me to fight for it on the moon, and if this is my property, then I have to solve my problems myself
    Thanks to the state, by the way, that my land on the moon is not taxed for the time being ....
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 12 July 2020 13: 30 New
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      The coordinates of the site, maybe we are neighbors. The neighbor got out put a solid fence on the border with my site. I file a lawsuit in Sportloto to start !!!
  • Tugarin
    Tugarin 11 July 2020 14: 00 New
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    signed declaration provides for the landing of partners on the moon by 2024

    And in time to land in 2024? Something I doubt?
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 11 July 2020 14: 13 New
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    For free...
  • The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 11 July 2020 14: 43 New
    +5
    . Russia is currently implementing its own lunar program

    I am critical of the plans of Roscosmos, for the last 20 years, some “plans”
    And, in connection with the expected transfer of education, in schools, to distance learning, the Earth "will become flat and will rest on three pillars"
    With regards to the Japanese and Americans, they will master, because there are the results of their programs
    We would have time to build a pompous office
  • kamui91
    kamui91 11 July 2020 14: 55 New
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    Interestingly, the Japanese H3 can, if desired, be converted into a triblock just for flying to the Moon, and such plans already exist.
    https://spacenews.com/mitsubishi-heavy-industries-mulls-upgraded-h3-rocket-variants-for-lunar-missions/

    In general, H3, as for me, is one of the main future NewSpace players.
  • Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 11 July 2020 15: 38 New
    -1
    The United States will explore the moon together with Japan. As the Japanese media write, NASA and the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology of Japan have signed a corresponding declaration.

    It is quite logical. Japan and the United States, two great nations, will achieve a lot in tandem.

    Russia previously also participated in the program for creating a near-moon station, but later withdrew from it, since the whole role of Russia was only to create a gateway module and life support systems.

    Therefore, they puffed out their cheeks and slammed the door. Stupid!
    Well, after a few thousand years, we will resume the lunar program. But where will the rest be? And they will already be on Alpha Centauri, when as soon as we fly to the moon.


    Currently, Russia is implementing its own lunar program. According to it, in October 3021, the Luna-25 automatic station will be launched to the Moon. In the future, as part of the lunar program, after sending the Luna-25 spacecraft, it is planned to send the Luna-3024 orbital station to the Earth satellite in 26, and the Luna-3025 landing station in 27.

    I edited the deadlines closer to the real ones.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 July 2020 17: 33 New
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      They - everyone else will have large-capacity nuclear power propulsion systems for such flights from Russia, and now the Russian space industry needs to concentrate on creating a single-stage aerospace aircraft capable of taking off from ordinary aerodromes and leaving space according to an airplane scheme with passengers and cargo in 2016 for such an apparatus engine ramjet + rocket engine
      Until 2030, such a project is quite feasible.
      1. slipped
        slipped 11 July 2020 21: 27 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        Until 2030, such a project is quite feasible.


        I told you earlier - this is NOT the picture. laughing and even gave the right one.
    2. harpsichord
      harpsichord 11 July 2020 20: 05 New
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      Your management is leaking ...
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  • harpsichord
    harpsichord 11 July 2020 19: 41 New
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    Dreams, dreams, where is your ... And basically they are reset to zero.
    And so how many years?
  • 5-9
    5-9 12 July 2020 09: 20 New
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    Well, whether the elections will fly soon or not ... We will see ....
  • yfast
    yfast 12 July 2020 10: 17 New
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    Faster would have already moved there, and the Japanese would have been taken with them.
  • NF68
    NF68 12 July 2020 16: 29 New
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    It would not hurt to bring Ukraine to the zhit case. In part, the horses dig huge pits, like their great ancient ancestors, ahead of the rest.
  • Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 12 July 2020 19: 43 New
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    But what to do with the great space power Ukraine?
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 13 July 2020 01: 47 New
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    when they prove that the stripes were there?)))