Ministry of Defense forms air defense regiments of mobile reserve

The Ministry of Defense decided to form air defense regiments of the mobile reserve. This is reported by "Izvestia" with reference to the military department.

According to the publication, the air defense regiments of the mobile reserve will begin to form this year. By the end of the year, such regiments should appear in the Far East and Siberia, as well as in several other regions of the country.

The armored air defense regiments of the mobile reserve will receive anti-aircraft missile-cannon systems (ZRPK) "Shell" on a wheelbase. These cars are able to quickly move on ordinary roads - both asphalt and unpaved. Tracked vehicles are not suitable for quick transport.

According to the plans of the military, after receiving the relevant information and based on the operational situation, air defense units in a matter of hours should make a forced march to a given area and cover important infrastructure elements, industrial and social facilities from cruise missiles and drones.

It should be noted that the experience of creating air defense units of the mobile reserve was already. In the early 1990s, the 14th Mobile Air Defense Division was created in the Moscow Region. It consisted of nine anti-aircraft divisions, ready at any time to advance to the areas of Rzhev, Pskov or Veliky Novgorod to cover the distant approaches to the capital. The division was directly subordinate to the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Defense Forces and had an automated control system.

Currently, in Russia there is only one such unit in the special defense air defense army. It protects Moscow and its environs. In the future, it is planned to create air defense regiments of the mobile reserve in each army of the Air Force and Air Defense. In the event of a threat, they will need to help existing air defense systems defend a massive air attack in the most dangerous direction.

Comments

[Alexga]

What is "mobile" reserve?

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

What is "mobile" reserve?

In the same way as in the old days, the "Reserve Headquarters of the Supreme Command." They will be quickly concentrated in threatened areas. The only thing is that the wheeled versions of "TOR", "Bukov" do not interfere with their equipment to start up ...

[Alexga]

Sergey, it’s all clear to whom they are subordinate, then he decides on its application. I asked a question, these regiments in peacetime exist, if so, why the reserve, if the reserve, then how much time is needed to bring it into full combat readiness. And so these are all empty words.

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

I asked a question: do these regiments exist in peacetime, if so, why the reserve, if the reserve, then how much time is needed to bring it into full combat readiness. And so these are all empty words.

Well, it’s only being formed and it’s hard for me to say what kind of staff they will be, nevertheless this is confidential information, although the tasks that these regiments should solve implies that these will be parts of high combat readiness, that is, they will have to be ready to fulfill the assigned tasks very fast.
"Reserve", in their name ... well, so they decided, at one time I served in the regiment of "border protection" .... Named and named, for me it is more important to understand the essence of their purpose, and so let them even be called "cavalry" ...

[Alexga]

Named and named, for me it is more important to understand the essence of their purpose, and so let them at least be called "cavalry".

I had the pleasure of participating in bringing on full combat readiness in front of Zapad-81 one of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the reserve, so the word "reserve" in relation to the Armed Forces has a slightly different meaning.

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

therefore, the word "reserve" in relation to the Armed Forces has a slightly different meaning for me.

I see ... Other times, different names ... Of course, it would be better to just call these formations faceless ... "Ensk anti-aircraft missile and artillery regiment" and you would not suffer, but the enemies would have to "wrinkle their foreheads"

[Alexga]

Found the original article https://iz.ru/1033585/anton-lavrov-roman-kretcul/prikroiutsia-pantcirem-v-armii-formiruiut-mobilnye-polki-pvo. It is more clearly written here.

[Cananecat]

And I had the honor to serve in the reserve battalion .... 3 business trips for urgent. They are so big and they should understand the difference between the reserve of the commander in chief and the mobilization reserve.

[Nikolaevich I]

Now it is customary to "dilute" the S-300 and S-400 air defense units of the Pantsir air defense system! But, officially, this is not yet accepted, as far as I know! Not all S-300 and S-400 air defense units are equipped with Pantsir air defense systems! Availability of ,, free ,, ,, reserve ,, subdivisions of SAM "Pantsir" will come in handy ...!

[svp67]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Availability of ,, free ,, ,, reserve ,, subdivisions of SAM "Pantsir" will come in handy ...!

And also to create lines of defense against a massive strike by the enemy’s KR.

[Private-K]

Quote: AlexGa

in peacetime these regiments exist, if so, why the reserve, if the reserve, then how much time is needed to bring it into full combat readiness.

This refers to the following:
1. These regiments, unlike other air defense units, are not on constant combat duty. They do not have a clearly assigned "airspace sector". They act "according to the situation" and are nominated (transferred) to cover threatened areas.
2. These units, apparently, are supposed to have a kind of double subordination: on the one hand, they are part of the VKS of the RF Armed Forces, and on the other, they are subordinate (I don’t know, but for example) to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. Those. he gives them orders bypassing the "intermediate instance".
3. The term "reserve" has been historically used repeatedly in the Russian / Soviet military clique. For example, are you familiar with the term "Artillery of the Supreme Command Reserve"? And what about "separate tank reserve regiments"? And the "officer's reserve regiment"? And the "Reserve Front"? Etc.

[TermNachTer]

The idea is certainly interesting. But given the flight speed of planes and missiles on them, will they be in time? If you go two - three hours.

[svp67]

Quote: TermNachTER

If you go two - three hours.

And fly no less, they will not operate along the front line, but in the rear, to cover especially important objects

[Insurgent]

Quote: AlexGa

What is "mobile" reserve?

And the article, it was necessary to read, so as not to look with such a question ... Hmm ... near...

According to the military’s plans, after receiving relevant information and proceeding from the operational situation, the air defense units must march in a given area in a matter of hours and cover important infrastructure elements, industrial and social facilities from the attacks of cruise missiles and drones.

[Alexga]

Let me explain it for those who are especially "distant". There are air defense regiments, it does not matter if it is PHG or whatever it is called, which can complete the task in a short time, i.e. constant readiness, but there are RESERVE regiments that have equipment, but do not have personnel and are subject to mobilization for a fairly long time up to several months. So I ask you to explain what the article says.

[Insurgent]

Quote: AlexGa

Let me explain it for those who are especially "distant".

No need to ulcerate, and explain what you did not see / did not understand in the article, asking a stupid question.

Quote: AlexGa

there are RESERVE regiments that have equipment, but do not have personnel and are subject to mobilization for a sufficiently long time up to several months. So I ask you to explain what the article says.

What you describe is called a "cropped unit" and not a "reserve".

Learn the materiel, then pester with questions.

[Alexga]

My friend, the combat readiness of the Armed Forces of the state depends on these "stupid questions". And so, this is all chatter on the topic, and the introduction of false information into the minds of readers.

[Insurgent]

Quote: AlexGa

My friend, the combat readiness of the Armed Forces of the state depends on these "stupid questions".

The combat readiness of the RF Armed Forces depends directly, to a large extent, on the absence of quivering fools ...

[Alexga]

quivering fools ...

Who are you talking about?

[Insurgent]

Quote: AlexGa

Who are you talking about?

About fools.

[Alexga]

Well, we assume that they are not present here.

[Insurgent]

Quote: AlexGa

Well, we assume that they are not present here.

Count who forbade you

[Piramidon]

Quote: AlexGa

My friend, the combat readiness of the Armed Forces of the state depends on these "stupid questions".

The combat readiness of the Armed Forces of the state does not in any way depend on your questions asked here.

[Alexga]

"cropped unit"

As for the materiel, this is for you. Read what it was in the districts of the "reserve division". You were probably born recently, and I have known the army since the mid-70s of the last century.

[Alexei-]

Are there cropped parts today? They were in the Union and in the 90s in the Russian Federation. As far as I know, there are no such parts today.
The cropped part is equipment, state armaments, and the leadership (officer) staff. Private, sergeant, technical personnel are mobilized during the threatened period ...... what are several hours? IMHO, the full-time part (maybe more conscripts), the rest is a verbal curtain.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Alex-

Are there cropped parts today? They were in the Union and in the 90s in the Russian Federation. As far as I know, there are no such parts today.

But the article is not about them ...
Just a citizen who "saw an army", terribly impatient to speculate on the topic of" reserve ", while providing it with a description inherent in the so-called" cropped units "...

That's the whole short-lived background ...

[Sergey Valov]

Do not write what you do not know. I served in the mid-70s in the air defense cropped battalion, which was on combat duty (MO air defense), the rank and file and sergeant were quite capable of fighting at any time, there were no people necessary for maneuvering combat operations. By the way, almost all of the air defense missile defense systems were cropped.

[Sergey Valov]

“There are RESERVE regiments” - what is a reserve regiment is generally incomprehensible, each interprets in its own way, which means our MO is also incomprehensible. It’s best to just wait for clarifications from the military if, of course, they come down to that.
I’ll tell you from experience that it’s not very fast to deploy an anti-aircraft missile battalion from scratch; it will also take several weeks to understaff if it is cropped. So some questions with a minimum of information.

[Alexga]

Sergey, reserve shelves are from the article. Bali military units are cropped, of different ranks, it's not about them. There were "blue" divisions, this is where the divisional commander with the chief of staff and a mobist, regimental commanders with mobists, battalion commanders without anyone, one conscript-driver of the divisional commander with a UAZ. only 33 people. It was called takae-something mfc frame, this is the official name. Behind the Ural ridge there were the so-called reserve divisions, there were basically only suitcases with mobile documents. I'm talking about parts of the reserve. This is no longer a military secret. Let me give you an example. The 39th army is withdrawn from Mongolia, what is simply disbanded, and what turns into BHVT number such and such. But in the documents of the combat deployment of troops, this BHVT is called precisely a motorized rifle division of a reserve with a readiness time of M so many (how many months it is given for mobilization) Here the main equipment is there, the rest is supplied from the national economy. I experienced all this crap on my hump.

[carstorm 11]

are you trying to describe the cropped parts?) reserve is a little different)

[Alexga]

Dmitry, I described everything in detail above.

[carstorm 11]

you mixed everything in a heap. what you call blue is doubles. in case of mobilization. reserve is a force that in a short time can strengthen any direction of defense or attack. reserves are formed and always kept on alert. all equipment and personnel. the reserve is put forward by order immediately and is always ready for it. they correctly told you that the mobilization reserve and the army reserve should not be confused.

[Alexga]

you mixed everything in a heap. what you call blue is doubles. in case of mobilization. reserve is a force that in a short time can strengthen any direction of defense or attack. reserves are formed and always kept on alert. all equipment and personnel. the reserve is put forward by order immediately and is always ready for it. they correctly told you that the mobilization reserve and the army reserve should not be confused.

I won’t even answer, go to the army, and then we'll talk.

[carstorm 11]

started))) my father commanded both cropped and take. I quit a little lower rank from the units of constant combat readiness from the post of chief of intelligence. but there’s really nothing to argue about. good luck.

[Alexga]

Well, then I'll tell you about the takes you are talking about. Training divisions, yes, formed the second composition of divisions, only training ones, in particular, the 45th Guards Division in Soviet times formed TD with M2 readiness, This was the case in the BVO and ZabVO. And we are not talking here about the tactics and strategy of warfare, but about the existence of the armed forces in a peaceful period, what was and how they are called in military language. I agree, the word "blue" division is military slang, with this word I called the 84th motorized rifle division of the 5th Guards TA

[Hermann]

Do not tell me in which city was the 84th MSD?

[Alexga]

In Maryina Gorka, it occupied 2 parks 8th Guards. This is the Minsk region.

[Hermann]

Thank you, as I understand it, that it was disbanded in the late 80s along with the 8th Guards.

[Alexga]

As the fate of the 84th Mechanized Infantry Division ended, I was no longer a witness, I served in the ZabVO, and the 8th division in 1990 was folded into the 6297th Guards BHBT, in its place was replaced by the 30th Guards Motorized Rifle Division.

[Hermann]

Thanks again, I have never heard of the 84th FFM.

[g1v2]

You are confused with cropped shelves. The shells are in service with the VKS. VKS provides object defense. That is, it covers specific objects and zones. Accordingly, parts of the videoconferencing are usually tied to protected objects and sections of the territory. Accordingly, mobile reserve regiments make it possible to strengthen air defense where it is not enough or to close holes between zones of object air defense if necessary. The shells are quite mobile. For example, if the aggravation is with Ukraine, then you can transfer these regiments to the Ukrainian border and deploy an additional umbrella over the border regions.

[Xscorpion]

This refers to a MOBILE RESERVE, not a mobilization reserve. Mobile response units are called quick reaction units in some troops. For example, in the Strategic Missile Forces, the role of a mobile reserve is played by the PDB (anti-sabotage) units from the guard and reconnaissance companies, or from the combat support divisions of missile regiments. other types of troops, the concepts-unit of anti-terror or simply duty units are more applicable

[Alexey-74]

That's right, mobility in the modern world means a lot.

[Alexander Sosnitsky]

The armor must withstand high speed with a radar on the move and a superoperative reaction to a top-mounted gun mount with adjustable detonation of shells, then this is a bomb.

[svp67]

Quote: Alexander Sosnitsky

The armor must withstand high speed with a radar on the move and a superoperative reaction to a top-mounted gun mount with adjustable detonation of shells, then this is a bomb.

"Pantsir" is still a stationary installation of object air defense. For everything you said "Tunguska" is

[Alexander Sosnitsky]

It’s clear, but my proposal is not over complicated and would prevent all losses and image, universalize the weapon, which in reality is very important

[Dmitry Schepachev]

And you are by chance not a relative of General V.R.Sosnitsky ??? He would enlighten the people

[Alexander Sosnitsky]

No, there are a lot of Sosnitskys. My father, Vasily Andreevich, an orphan, was drafted into the spacecraft in 1939 and went through the whole Second World War from and to. Finished the war of the Guards, Art. lt., commander of 1 assault. batteries 6 gv. Rivne Guards. divisions in Austria, 1m crossed the Oder and entered fascist Germany. 5 military orders and medals, of which he especially appreciated the first - "For Courage", 1941

[Hermann]

Not a fact, of course, but on one site I read that there will be 2 divisions in such regiments. (The ZRPK armor division now has 400 units in regiments with S-6)

[Avior]

It is interesting to understand the range of operational transfer and safety on the go.
If the average speed on the march is 40 kilometers, then 5 hours is a maximum of 200 km.
Let's just say that it is problematic to ensure the strengthening of air defense in a short time of all possible objects.
There is still the problem of getting under drones or aircraft on the march.

[Nastia makarova]

so they will not be deployed when enemy planes are in the air or thousands of missiles are already flying, but in advance a few days before the attack

[Herman 4223]

Better in a month. Attacks where such a regiment unfolds most likely will not, they strike where weak, and not where they can give change.

[Avior]

No need to think, intelligence is only its own, and the enemy does not have it.
Overpopulate the blow in a few days

[Avior]

The article clearly states that we are talking about watches

air defense units in a matter of hours must make a march to a given area

[Piramidon]

Quote: Avior

Let's just say that it is problematic to ensure the strengthening of air defense in a short time of all possible objects.

Well, not one such regiment will be in more than one place.

[sav]

A very good solution. We approve

[Gust]

Good, only Shells without Bukov, money down the drain. Beeches are also needed on a wheeled chassis.

[rocket757]

Ministry of Defense forms air defense regiments of mobile reserve

Reserva is always a must !!! The main thing in mind they will dispose of!

[Pavel57]

Getting ready for war.

[Ros 56]

But this is a common thought. In our crazy time, it will allow us to have protection and, in a sense, seriously save.

[Max Lebedev]

Wow, great news. The native sky will be under lock and key.

[Kaw]

Only the whole question, why?

[Kaw]

And another question, how could this complex pass the state tests?

[sivuch]

So after all, there are other videos - where the same E-95s went astray, incl. from guns. As I understand it, you are not interested.

[Whirlwind]

An ambush regiment ... The enemy scouted everything, crushed everything and suddenly got a full horn.

[Alexey from Perm]

In principle, reasonable, but why only shells? he has a small arsenal and short ranges

[Maki maki]

Quote: Alexey from Perm

but why only shells

And there’s nothing more to add. S-350 just started to produce. All later.

[Radikal]

The Ministry of Defense decided to form air defense regiments of the mobile reserve.

Are we talking about additionally formed units, and accordingly with new military equipment, and l / s, or, as usual ... on paper, will they rename the already existing air defense units? Where will the "firewood" ... get it?

[Maki maki]

Quote: Radikal

Are we talking about additionally formed units, and accordingly with new military equipment, and l / s, or, as usual ... on paper, will they rename the already existing air defense units? Where will the "firewood" ... get it?

Apparently, all the same, new regiments will form. I don’t think there will be many of them. Or the process is timed out.

[Radikal]

Quote: Max Lebedev

Wow, great news. The native sky will be under lock and key.

Well done, you will soon become a marshal.

[Alexfly]

Why not divisions? Looking not at the territory of Russia, not the regiments, but the army are needed ..