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Soviet property in the Baltic states: is it time to repay debts?

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The amendment on the Russian succession of assets of the Soviet Union raises questions about whether it is time for Russia to seek compensation for the long-term use of Soviet property from those countries of the post-Soviet space that are hostile to the modern Russian state.


As in the Baltic countries stupidly disposed of Soviet property


In the five decades of Soviet power in the Lithuanian, Latvian, and Estonian SSRs, as many enterprises, hospitals, educational institutions, and residential buildings were built that they could not afford to build the Baltic states in either the interwar or post-Soviet periods of their sovereignty. Meanwhile, it is the Baltic republics that most often talk about the need to compensate them for the “harm” that was allegedly inflicted during the “Soviet occupation”.

Good harm, given that the Baltic states lived much better than all the other republics of the Soviet Union. At the same time, the Baltic republics argue that only one Russia bears responsibility for the actions of the USSR, including debt obligations. It’s not a question: if Russia is the successor of the Soviet Union, according to Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonian politicians, is it time to return to Russia the Soviet property that the republics have been using for thirty years, or at least the money for using it?

For example, in only one Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic during the Soviet era, more than 1000 military units, including 600 military facilities, were deployed. All military property belonged, of course, to the Soviet Union, and not to the Latvian SSR, since the latter did not have its own armed forces. In 1993, former Soviet military installations were transferred to Latvia, after which the property that once belonged to Soviet military units began to be stupidly taken away.

Small entrepreneurs, bandits, just marginalized plundered equipment, metal and even concrete slabs. It is worth noting here that the Yeltsin leadership of Russia quite easily parted with Soviet property: for example, Fedor Shelov-Kovedyaev, the head of the Russian delegation, announced that all property would remain in Latvia, with the exception of the Gosteleradio Rest House in Jurmala. A similar situation was observed with the property of the Soviet Army and the Navy fleet in Lithuania and Estonia.

Soviet investments in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia


Above we talked about military property. Investments in civilian property were even larger. So, in Latvia alone, from 1940 to 1960, more than 20 industrial enterprises and factories were built. In Lithuania, already in 1950 the economy was 90% higher than the pre-war level.


RAF plant was abolished 22 years ago


In the 1970s and 1980s, the Soviet Union organized the laying of oil pipelines to the most important ports in the Baltic states. At the same time, roads and railways developed, with roads being the best in the Soviet Union in terms of quality. Port infrastructure was also built in Soviet times. Among the industrial enterprises are Avtoelektropribor, Gidrometpribor, Riga Diesel Plant, Riga Electric Lamp Plant, RAF minibuses plant, in the energy sector - Riga and Plyavinsk Hydroelectric Power Plants, TPP in Riga, Ventspils Neftebaza.

Klaipeda port and Mazeikiai oil refinery, Ignalina NPP, which were of strategic importance for this republic, were built in Lithuania. However, already in sovereign Lithuania Ignalina NPP was shut down at the request of the European Union. The contribution to the Lithuanian economy during the Soviet period was even more significant, since before 1940, unlike industrially developed Latvia, Lithuania was more likely a purely agrarian country.

The world's first gas shale plant was built in Estonia in 1948, just three years after the victory over Nazi Germany. The world's largest shale power plants, the Baltic Power Station and the Estonian State District Power Plant, were also built in Estonia during the Soviet period. And this is only the “tip” of the iceberg; in fact, the USSR’s investments in the Estonian economy were much larger.

Now, speaking of the enormous damage allegedly caused by the "Soviet occupation", Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian authorities are evading the discussion of how the real investments of the USSR in the Baltic economy exceed this mythical damage. Indeed, if everything is considered in fairness, then Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia will be "deeply in debt" to Russia as the successor to the Soviet Union. It is not Russia's fault that the Baltic republics, after declaring independence, so stupidly disposed of Soviet property left over by inheritance.
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  1. Soko
    Soko 10 July 2020 16: 15 New
    17
    The Baltic states went the way of denying everything Soviet. Definitely need to show.
    1. credo
      credo 10 July 2020 16: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: Soko
      The Baltic states went the way of denying everything Soviet. Definitely need to show.

      It’s the same as recalling your favorite callus - every time it reminds you of itself when we step on it, so we wait when it resolves itself.
      You can remember a lot and on different occasions about why and on what basis they created national republics in the Baltic states, if their territory was bought by Peter the Great, why they gave away part of Prussia and the Baltic Sea coast after the Second World War to Poland, which parts were "off the shoulder" gave Ukraine, including Crimea, what tidbits of land were given to the national republics, which were not in sight under the king, and so on, so on, so on.
      It is necessary and important to consider the investments of the USSR in all national republics meticulously and scrupulously, to the penny and the cent, but it is pointless and early to present them here, for many objective reasons. Why shake the air in vain.
      1. Shelest2000
        Shelest2000 11 July 2020 15: 31 New
        +4
        It is necessary to present them for illegal use of land, water and other natural resources, etc. etc. And poke the face of the Nystadt peace treaty in the face, according to which Russia paid Sweden 2 million efimks. A huge amount for that time. "At the current exchange rate, without accrued interest, this is about $ 350 billion." (C) Under this agreement, all these lands belong to Russia with all residents and other livestock wassat
        So invoice them, both for the Soviet destroyed / lost / for using property, and under this agreement with accrued interest. And then something they behave themselves boorish there. Let a start laughing
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 July 2020 16: 46 New
      13
      Quote: Soko
      The Baltic states went the way of denying everything Soviet.

      Sorry for the immodest question, and no offense. But Russia did not take the path of denying everything Soviet, or what?
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 10 July 2020 17: 39 New
        -10
        And where in Russia they deny the Soviet?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 10 July 2020 17: 59 New
          +5
          Quote: Stalllker
          And where in Russia they deny the Soviet?

          You know better. But when I watched the parade on June 24, 2020, I saw a draped Mausoleum.
          1. Stalllker
            Stalllker 10 July 2020 20: 07 New
            -7
            So what? We within ourselves did not refuse Soviet
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 10 July 2020 23: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: Stalllker
              So what? We within ourselves did not refuse Soviet

              So you did not refuse, and so did I.
          2. lirik
            lirik 13 July 2020 17: 28 New
            +3
            Ask any citizen of Russia, with the exception of representatives of the government, billionaires, and even very young and indifferent, everyone will say that they are not just surprised by the repeated shame and drapery by May 9 every year, the Lenin Mausoleum, but personally offended! Yes, the current government really denies the Soviet past, taking heraldry and signs, awards and other rarities of the tsars of Russia and the Russian Empire as a model. What is the statement that the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called is higher in status than the star of the Hero of Russia or Hero of Labor!
          3. Andrey Stavropolsky
            Andrey Stavropolsky 15 July 2020 07: 20 New
            -4
            Oh, the next mausoleum builder.
        2. Kronos
          Kronos 10 July 2020 18: 34 New
          17
          Everywhere from Solzhenitsyn in the school curriculum to regular stories about Lenin's bombs and what only galoshes in the USSR did
          1. Stalllker
            Stalllker 10 July 2020 20: 13 New
            -7
            Actually, the USSR itself refused it, not Russia. In Russia it was printed.
          2. Stalllker
            Stalllker 10 July 2020 20: 13 New
            -6
            They will hear the law, but do not know where it is
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 10 July 2020 19: 48 New
      +2
      Soviet property in the Baltic states: isn't it time repay debts?

      It's time yes
      And for this to create under the Ministry of Economic Development "Main Directorate for the recovery of compensation for the long-term use of Soviet property by the countries of the post-Soviet space." And so that, for each country, there was a clear figure (what, where, by whom, when, in what way ...). Then there will be no time to count ... bully
      1. AlexVas44
        AlexVas44 11 July 2020 04: 48 New
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        Quote: Terenin
        And that would be, for each country, a clear digital figure (what, where, by whom, when, by what method ...). Then there will be no time to count ...

        Loud and large, so that it dawns on everyone and forever remains in his memory, and his mouth shut. repeat
    4. evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
      evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 12 July 2020 13: 15 New
      +2
      And ,, present, ”dear Soko, will the state ,, Capitalist Russia ,, deny worse than the Baltic states, everything Soviet,?
      Year after year they hide the Mausoleum, muddy Soviet industry, the Soviet way of life ... And who ?! ,, Mankurts ,, worthless, which the USSR grew up, giving them free education and medicine, housing and work for their parents ... False henchmen, bourgeois, globalist-Satanists, inflate, and get important, put on masks of patriots and, broadcasting ..
      Your time is over, ,, specialists ,,! Pack your bags. Some of you MAY BE able to hide thanks to well-known programs ...
      In ,, their ,, country, they lit such a PIG! They gathered to teach the world ... Except for ,, milking, "the country of residence, they do not know how, but they are clever and teach ... ,, aliens ,, (such-and-so)
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 10 July 2020 16: 15 New
    20
    Author! In how are you going to demand? We, it seems, have approved their rule of law? And it is with the world ... slightly does not converge. In which court will we file claims? In Basmanny or some other?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 10 July 2020 16: 22 New
      -6
      it’s how you turned everything out))) actually the meaning is radically different there)))
      1. Aag
        Aag 11 July 2020 18: 52 New
        +3
        Until we raise our own economy to the level of:
        1) In reality (!) The majority of the population will be satisfied with the course of the country,
        2) The Army and the Navy will be at a level that allows not to give a chance to "yap" at everyone, to make every statement of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs really weighty,
        3) Provide real, effective assistance to Russians, pro-Russian citizens (sorry, this is not the right wording ...) ...
        All our good intentions will remain dreams!
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 10 July 2020 16: 28 New
      +4
      A stick is always about two ends ... although there are more.
      Drive ALL who operate in the legal framework of our laws and courts it !!!! but in different ways it will turn out! Take an example from the minke whales, this must still be managed! Yes, and whether everyone wants to put up with such circumstances, and not quarrel, and whether all \ some from here will be drained away, if only not to deal with our justice .... question, questions !!!
      Our legal system does not cause much confidence, not only because of us, the citizens of the country, it also does not inspire foreigners .... it’s understandable why.
      It is necessary to cleanse the judiciary from the elements of corruption, telephone law and other negative aspects !!! Then there will be more confidence in her and other amenities!
      This is how I dreamed! And the supremacy of national laws, interests, over all others, it’s right, this is the condition for survival in the current world!
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 July 2020 16: 54 New
      11
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Author! In how are you going to demand?

      If you have already given it, then you will not take it away, just as they will receive nothing. Just talking from two sides. Well, if it's just for fun and information, then it's easy. There is a budget of any republic of the USSR where it is indicated how much money of its republic is, how much is added from the budget of the Union. Any construction also indicates where the money came from. Summarize the debit with the loan, and conclude who owes whom and how much. For those interested in publishing, making noise, branding shame and calm down, no one will give anything to anyone. The time of the rallies is over.
      1. My doctor
        My doctor 10 July 2020 19: 04 New
        -5
        Quote: tihonmarine
        If you have already given it, then you will not take it away, just as they will receive nothing. Just talking from two sides. Well, if it's just for fun and information, then it's easy. There is a budget for any republic of the USSR where it is indicated how much money of its republic, how much is added from the budget of the Union. Any construction also indicates where the money came from. Summarize the debit with the loan, and conclude who owes whom and how much.

        Every year more and more ravings. It seems that there are several realities in parallel.
        As I know, the Balts were not enthusiastic about the construction of factories, and no one asked them then. The USSR in the Baltic states is like a person who has not entered his home and settled in it. And when they asked for a way out, then naturally they threw out all his property without regret. The Baltic states, in principle, did not need the remaining industries oriented to the post-Soviet market.
        And in my opinion, they did the right thing, otherwise Belarus would beg for resources and ask for permission to sell in Russia.
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 10 July 2020 22: 24 New
          0
          Quote: MyVrach
          The Baltic states, in principle, did not need the remaining production

          ===
          how is it not needed? you can rinse this topic for a very long time, but this is capital that you have already found for a long time, or donkey square pockets, new owners, a new Baltic elite.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 10 July 2020 23: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: Victorio
            how is it not needed? you can rinse this topic for a very long time, but this is capital that you have already found for a long time, or donkey square pockets, new owners, a new Baltic elite.

            These are the enterprises that, after the collapse, were simply closed and destroyed, as Estonia didn’t need,
            Requiem for Estonian companies killed
            Garden Plant "Argo"
            Car repair plant
            “Baltic Manufactory”
            Eesti Kaabel Plant
            Pulp and paper mill
            Plant "Strokeramika"
            Estoplast Plant
            Commercial Equipment Factory
            Chemical plant "Flora" (partially survived in Tartu)
            Chemical plant "Orto"
            Factory "Textiles"
            Knitting Factory "Marat"
            Shoe factory "Kommunar"
            Tannery “Linda”
            Machine-building plant "Ilmarine"
            Electrotechnical factory "Volta"
            Metalist
            Machine-building plant named after Lauristina
            Machine-Building Plant "Engine"
            Factory of metalware "Vazar"
            Smoke and Culinary Plant
            Fishing collective farm named after Kirova
            Fishery collective farm "Mayak"
            Production Association "Ocean"
            Estonian Shipping Company
            Electrotechnical Association. Kalinina
            “Punane RET” (a fragment works in Johvi)
            Sewing factory "Keila"
            Eesti Phosphorite
            Household Appliance Repair Plant
            Association "Cooperator"
            Tallinn Shipyard
            Tobacco factory "Leek"
            INDOSPOSHIV LEMBITU FACTORY
            Tallinn meat factory
            Plywood and furniture factory
            Scientific and Production Association "Mistra"
            Perfume and Fat Factory
            Plant of metal products "Pioneer"
            Plant "Polymer"
            Glass factory "Tarbeklaas"
            Plant "Pyhyala"
            Reinforced Concrete Plant
            Plastics Factory Salvo
            Silikaat Plant
            Ski factory Dynamo
            Instrumentation Plant
            Excavation factory "Tallex"
            Textile factory “Punane Coit”
            Sewing factory “Vyyt”
            Hearing Aid Plant named after Pegelman in Sillamae
            Mechanical Plant "Teras"
            “Krenholm Manufactory”
      2. Aag
        Aag 11 July 2020 18: 55 New
        +2
        I’m embarrassed to ask. Did we have a lot of information on MN-17? According to the results of research by WADA laboratories?
        They will send again the forest ...
        And so it will be (written above).
  3. Klingon
    Klingon 10 July 2020 16: 23 New
    -2
    Yes, I remember for my Mayzeikiai refinery my dad, working in the layout department of GrozGIPROneftim of the still old Grozny, glued large-scale models of oil refineries.
    So my dad FOR DEPARTMENT OF DEBTS, Yes, even though he is already 65 wassat
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 July 2020 16: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: Klingon
      So my dad FOR DEPARTMENT OF DEBTS, Yes, even though he is already 65

      I can only sympathize with dad, but if you still repay your debts, your dad will not get anything anyway.
      1. Klingon
        Klingon 10 July 2020 16: 59 New
        +1
        who would doubt that if anyone gets it, they will be nullified and untouchable wassat
      2. Aag
        Aag 11 July 2020 19: 53 New
        +3
        Apparently, like most citizens of the Russian Federation ....
        You are with the Baltic states ... close.
        I was born, I lived in Riga for 22 years, I stayed in touch. Based on this, I dare say that, at least in Latvia, in Riga (and there are almost a third, half of the remaining population of Latvia). The mood is often adaptive (however, as and here, in the Russian Federation). But! There are a lot of supporters of the Russian Federation. Like the adherents of the USSR! In fairness it’s worth clarifying: people of retirement age, as a rule.
        Another point. IMHO important. By limiting the broadcasting of the Russian media, the local ones played in favor of the Kremlin: they do not see our internal "kosipors". A very small part of the "advanced" doubts, -the EU has taken a sip, NATO (s) tasted, -now, wait for the Russian olegarchy ?! ... In Russia, everything was divided, plundered?
        I would just FOR! For all the peculiarities of the Baltic states, they are closer to me in mentality than citizens of the former Soviet republics from the Caucasus (Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan). Every day I see on the repair of Siberian roads, markets; and also in the clinic, kindergartens schools, MFC! Often, they are already citizens of the Russian Federation ... And, nifiga, not professing the principles of the USSR, or, at least, the Russian Federation. How should I relate to them? Understand, forgive? When does the indigenous people, by no means, fatten?
        Well, excuse me, I’ve never natsik. But, there are examples among their former colleagues, when people fled leaving ALL that they had acquired, to stay alive, from their former fraternal ones ... And returning to the Baltic topic ... It was also tough. But, not so wild! Yes. RVVPKU graduates of recent years haven’t handed over weapons to weapons, -the grenade launchers also hung on the beds ... Hi Gorbachev, EBN ...
        Sorry for the emotions, I sincerely wanted to, on the topic ...
  4. Radikal
    Radikal 10 July 2020 16: 23 New
    +6
    Soviet property in the Baltic states: is it time to repay debts?

    Who, and in what way will return? sad
    1. Region68
      Region68 10 July 2020 16: 27 New
      +4
      The war, how else ..
      Right now, we are directly running Nazi Germany copying ..
      1. Maximilian37
        Maximilian37 10 July 2020 17: 09 New
        -9
        Are you trying to cram your wet dreams? Sit there do not rock the boat, we as in Ukraine will not work.
        1. Region68
          Region68 10 July 2020 17: 41 New
          +6
          Whose dreams are that? Read the comments .. Half of the people are ready to go to the former republics and return the land and so on ..
          Expand living space so to speak
          1. Victorio
            Victorio 10 July 2020 22: 30 New
            -2
            Quote: Region68
            Whose dreams are that? Read the comments .. Half of the people are ready to go to the former republics and return the land and so on ..
            Expand living space so to speak

            ===
            ))) by the number of comments and their content, you draw conclusions about the number, and what are they thinking!?
          2. Aag
            Aag 11 July 2020 20: 00 New
            +1
            They should cleanse themselves!
            Let me remind you, excuse me, in terms of the territory of the Russian Federation in the first place. I don’t know about you, it doesn’t help me much. Neither financially nor emotionally. In the latter case, it’s more likely the other way around, with such initial data, and in such an opera ... And not lazy, not lumpen ...
          3. evgen1221
            evgen1221 12 July 2020 04: 02 New
            0
            To expand the living space in the modern Russian Federation there is neither sense nor need — the country is emptying from the inside, everyone is driving the million-dollar economic model to the north and into cities of the million. The population for many needs simply no-jamshuts will soon be a quarter from the indigenous, Talkhouse and distraction from important topics these mriy about the expansion of the territory, boltology and no more.
    2. unaha
      unaha 10 July 2020 16: 29 New
      +7
      Nobody and no one. These are some kind of fantastic reflections that have no relation to reality. Quite comparable to the Baltic Wishlist "for occupation".
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 July 2020 16: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: Radikal
      Who, and in what way will return?

      They sat and shouted at the collective farm meeting, sipped each other by the beards, smoked and parted.
    4. Terenin
      Terenin 10 July 2020 19: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: Radikal
      Soviet property in the Baltic states: is it time to repay debts?

      Who, and in what way will return? sad

      Welcome.
      Judging by your nickname, and especially your name, the answer is obvious winked
  5. Radikal
    Radikal 10 July 2020 16: 31 New
    -5
    Quote: Klingon
    Yes, I remember for my Mayzeikiai refinery my dad, working in the layout department of GrozGIPROneftim of the still old Grozny, glued large-scale models of oil refineries.
    So my dad FOR DEPARTMENT OF DEBTS, Yes, even though he is already 65 wassat

    And what did you and your dad know in the building of this institute in 1995? sad
    1. Klingon
      Klingon 10 July 2020 17: 01 New
      +4
      and what does 1995 have to do with my dad? Will you poke me in the Chechen war or what? so my dad has nothing to do with it, when he worked in Gipro was still the Chechen-Ingush Republic
  6. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 10 July 2020 16: 36 New
    -1
    Debts have been accumulating there since the time of Peter the Great.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 10 July 2020 16: 46 New
      0
      The Russian Empire bought the Baltic states from the Swedes, let them pay for it first ...
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 10 July 2020 19: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        The Russian Empire bought the Baltic states from the Swedes, let them pay for it first ...

        Everything was bought there in compliance with all legal norms.
        1. Cristall
          Cristall 10 July 2020 22: 36 New
          -4
          Quote: Terenin
          Everything was bought there in compliance with all legal norms.

          the site of Karelia, Estonia, Ingermanland and Livonia went to Peter I for 2 million efimka (silver coins) - this is almost 56 tons of silver. All these territories at that time belonged to the Swedes, who in this way replenished their treasury well. Russia (the Russian kingdom and a year later RI) became the rightful owner of the Baltic lands. The Nistadt truce was concluded in 1721.
          The Swedes themselves captured it from others, in particular from the RC earlier.
          Buying or seizing / joining a prenuptial agreement has been quite common in world history.
          By the way, 50% of the territory of the USA is bought. (Louisiana Purchase / Louisiana Purchase for example and partially capture / purchase - Guadalupe-Hidalgo Agreement)
          In the 1898 year, the Americans, after defeating Spain in the colonial war, paid the defeated enemy $ 20 million for the Philippine Islands.
          In general, the United States disposed of its power and money well, having won and bought from those who needed money.
          However, it is worth considering that it was a RC and RI.
          How these purchases may relate to the Russian Federation is legally incomprehensible.
          Ingermanlandia and so belongs to the Russian Federation.
          The same sale of Alaska was between the USA and RI. Also legally the Russian Federation can’t bite here.
          And the main question - WHY ????
          Now the main resource is not land (these are very ancient times), not resources (this is not the 20th century) but a wealthy consumer of modern goods / markets of such consumers.
          Although there are still attempts to buy land
          A vivid example is Greenland and the USA. (Well, Denmark of course)
          Why should anyone slow down to whom? After all, the Baltic states also do not really remember about the assets of the USSR. And there is a very dark story with assets (the size was almost unknown audit was not).
          Yes, and not everyone agreed with the zero option.
          And all republics are legal successors. And not one of the Russian Federation.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 10 July 2020 23: 55 New
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            Quote: Cristall
            How these purchases may relate to the Russian Federation is legally incomprehensible.

            What's so obscure? If the USSR, and then the Russian Federation, recognized the debt of the Republic of Ingushetia, then it is precisely the Russian Federation that is the legal successor of the Republic of Ingushetia ...
            Quote: Cristall
            And all republics are legal successors. And not one of the Russian Federation.

            Not as I understand it. They cannot be considered legal successors, because not only income but also debts are shared. The RF became the legal successor of the USSR debts, and the assets also went to it.
            Something like this...
            1. Avior
              Avior 11 July 2020 00: 53 New
              +2
              The USSR never recognized the debts of the Republic of Ingushetia.
              The succession of the Russian Federation to the inheritance of the USSR refers to external assets and liabilities of the USSR and does not apply to internal ones.
  7. Andrey Grad
    Andrey Grad 10 July 2020 16: 36 New
    -2
    The Baltic sub-republics were created artificially, with the help of the German army, which seized the Baltic territory from Russia and the British intelligence, which organized puppet governments.
    Not for the development and prosperity of these republics were created, as naive Latin Estonians think.
    The only purpose of the existence of these entities is to block Russia’s direct access to the Baltic Sea, for this reason, the puppet governments set there will ALWAYS conflict and quarrel with Russia.
    It is IMPOSSIBLE to try to negotiate with puppet governments, they have the purpose of existence of ANTI-RUSSIAN and the owners in the west, and local residents do not decide anything, they are the only way to extras.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 July 2020 17: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrey Grad
      The sole purpose of the existence of these entities is to block Russia’s direct access to the Baltic Sea,

      Having concluded the Yurievsky (Tartu) peace treaty, Soviet Russia received just the exit to the West through Estonia. In 1920-1922, Estonia had better relations with Russia than ever. This has never happened before. For Soviet Russia, Estonia has become a necessary intermediary for import and transit. Almost all of the gold from Tsarist Russia was sold through Estonia to the West. And equipment prohibited for import into Soviet Russia was purchased through Estonia and imported into Russia. The Bolsheviks were able to think correctly. Not everything is simple in history as we think, and we do not know everything as it was, much remains simply not revealed, historians have a field of activity.
      1. Aag
        Aag 11 July 2020 20: 07 New
        0
        And not vice versa? Have you left the right export channel?
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 10 July 2020 16: 36 New
    0
    The amendment on the Russian succession of assets of the Soviet Union raises questions about whether it is time for Russia to seek compensation for the long-term use of Soviet property from those countries of the post-Soviet space that are hostile to the modern Russian state.
    .... exact, so from all, but in different ways ...
  9. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 July 2020 16: 49 New
    +6
    And let’s start by giving the citizenship of the Russian Federation to all non-citizens in the Baltic states ... drinks
    And there - after that - you can quickly return everything to your good
    1. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn 10 July 2020 20: 13 New
      +1
      I remember in 91 ohm, they were offered Russian citizenship. The majority refused. It smelled of West. They wanted a well-fed bourgeoisie.
      1. Clear
        Clear 10 July 2020 21: 07 New
        -3
        Quote: vladimirvn
        I remember in 91 ohm, they were offered Russian citizenship. The majority refused. It smelled of West. They wanted a well-fed bourgeoisie.

        Shiver, bourgeois! Kirdyk to you.
        1. Clear
          Clear 10 July 2020 21: 09 New
          -1
          Quote: Clear
          Quote: vladimirvn
          I remember in 91 ohm, they were offered Russian citizenship. The majority refused. It smelled of West. They wanted a well-fed bourgeoisie.

          Shiver, bourgeois! Kirdyk to you.

          Oh, I remembered
          Eat pineapples, chew grouse, just do not touch my Rollton, bourgeois! smile
      2. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 10 July 2020 21: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: vladimirvn
        I remember in 91 ohm, they were offered Russian citizenship. The majority refused. It smelled of West. They wanted a well-fed bourgeoisie.

        You are probably confusing something hi Non-citizens in the Baltic States have NOT refused Russian citizenship ever !!! DO NOT confuse Power and people !!! drinks
      3. Victorio
        Victorio 10 July 2020 22: 37 New
        0
        Quote: vladimirvn
        I remember in 91 ohm they were offered Russian citizenship. The majority refused. It smelled of West. They wanted a well-fed bourgeoisie.

        ===
        this is not so, or not so everywhere. At that time it was more difficult to obtain citizenship of the Russian Federation than later and now. as for well-fed, the same thing as everywhere else in the post-Soviet space. unless a smaller mess
      4. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 14 July 2020 09: 57 New
        0
        Quote: vladimirvn
        I remember in 91 ohm, they were offered ....
        I hesitate to ask, and who suggested? At the time of the collapse of the Union of the Russian Federation, there was no time for the Baltics, the tagged / ebn & k merged very quickly, all in 'democracy' were playing. It got to the point that ebn allowed the representatives of the Latvian prosecutor's office to arrest former fighters of the Riga OMON, citizens and military personnel of the Russian Federation in the territory of the Russian Federation. Who now remembers this? Until Russia learns to firmly and systematically defend its interests - similar ideas'for talk'will arise regularly: sat down to play with cheaters - keep the candelabra at hand and be prepared ...
        1. vladimirvn
          vladimirvn 14 July 2020 10: 05 New
          0
          He knew not a single military pensioner who, by hook or by crook, sought to leave the army during this period, in the Baltic countries, in order to then obtain their citizenship.
          Yes, and civilians sought to acquire property there, intending then to warm their hands at a price increase.
          1. Andrey Grad
            Andrey Grad 14 July 2020 12: 12 New
            0
            And I knew dozens of military men and their families, who the new Nazi government put in their passports round stamps and an order to leave Latvia within two weeks, without any compensation, without the opportunity to sell or take out the property.
            Nobody offered Russian citizenship at that time, and those military pensioners who remained, did not give local citizenship, they remained non-citizens without rights.
    2. Aag
      Aag 11 July 2020 20: 12 New
      -2
      Who wanted, received.
      And they receive Russian pensions. (Who could confirm the experience is difficult). And ... Everything depended. I think it would be possible ... more toothy ...
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 11 July 2020 20: 20 New
        -2
        Quote: AAG
        Who wanted, received.
        And they receive Russian pensions. (Who could confirm the experience is difficult). And ... Everything depended. I think it would be possible ... more toothy ...

        You probably have never encountered the problem of obtaining Russian citizenship belay It's not all that simple there ... unfortunately ... And at least hundreds of thousands of "NON-citizens" want to obtain Russian citizenship in the Baltic states, but no one gives it to them ...
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 11 July 2020 22: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: Crown without virus
          Quote: AAG
          Who wanted, received.
          And they receive Russian pensions. (Who could confirm the experience is difficult). And ... Everything depended. I think it would be possible ... more toothy ...

          You probably have never encountered the problem of obtaining Russian citizenship belay It's not all that simple there ... unfortunately ... And at least hundreds of thousands of "NON-citizens" want to obtain Russian citizenship in the Baltic states, but no one gives it to them ...

          ===
          In recent years, obtaining Russian citizenship locally and through the consulate is possible without problems. and who wanted, he already received, probably. At one time, Russian-speaking youth was interested, went to Russia to study with the prospect of staying. and now the priority is already the western direction, and the level of education of graduates is falling. Teacher’s wife, she says, is significantly behind the Russian school.
        2. Aag
          Aag 12 July 2020 06: 15 New
          +1
          "You, probably, have never faced the problem of obtaining Russian citizenship belay It's not so simple there ... unfortunately ... And at least hundreds of thousands of" NON-citizens "want to get Russian citizenship in the Baltic states, but nobody gives it to them. .. "
          I didn’t come across. And all the acquaintances, relatives who wanted to, got it ... We didn’t complain about difficulties ...
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 14 July 2020 09: 25 New
          0
          Quote: Corona without virus
          And they want to obtain Russian citizenship in the Baltic States at least hundreds of thousands of "non-citizens", but no one gives it to them ...

          This is nonsense, who wanted, they got, and without problems. No need to invent what is not. I am personally an LBG and I do not need any citizenship.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 July 2020 22: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Corona without virus
      And let’s start by giving the citizenship of the Russian Federation to all non-citizens in the Baltic states ...

      And you asked them if they want it or not. I personally do not want to.
      1. Aag
        Aag 13 July 2020 18: 30 New
        +2
        People paid attention, apparently minus when the posted comments do not coincide with their aspirations? Moreover, these expectations are formed, probably, under the influence of the domestic media. Those who are familiar with the situation from the inside, or close to that, usually object in the comments.
        It's a shame. Not for a minus. And ea, that I stick around on this site because of missing information of interest (not a spy am ), and if the situation is the same for the rest of the topics, then the site has lost its relevance and reputation.
        Sorry if unreasonably optimistic ... hi
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 14 July 2020 09: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: AAG
          Did they notice, minus, apparently, people when the posted comments do not coincide with their aspirations?

          True, there are many such for whom only their opinion is the main and true, and someone else's is almost enemy. You yourself see what is being done in social networks, before the mat and threats.
  10. Svetlana
    Svetlana 10 July 2020 16: 54 New
    0
    The amendment on the Russian succession of assets of the Soviet Union makes you wonder if it is time for Russia to seek compensation


    The truth is that on 13.01.91 Russia herself declared itself the legal successor of the USSR. In other words, "Impostor". And since the USSR no longer exists, no one owes anything to anyone. Regardless of amendments and non-amendments.
    .
    Cons forward !!
    1. Clear
      Clear 10 July 2020 21: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: Svetlana
      The amendment on the Russian succession of assets of the Soviet Union makes you wonder if it is time for Russia to seek compensation


      The truth is that on 13.01.91 Russia herself declared itself the legal successor of the USSR. In other words, "Impostor". And since the USSR no longer exists, no one owes anything to anyone. Regardless of amendments and non-amendments.
      .
      Cons forward !!

      Sergei, well, why should you plus? For "twice two" equals "five"?
      This is the first year question of any institute:
      The question of Russia's international status was actually resolved on December 21, 1991 in Alma-Ata, where the CIS member states have documented their desire to see the Russian Federation as the successor of the USSR, and themselves as full members of the UN.
      Given this position, the International Court of Justice decided to leave the settlement of the issue to the conscience of the Organization, and the leading countries of the world decided it in Russia's favor.
      1. Cristall
        Cristall 10 July 2020 22: 49 New
        -5
        Quote: Clear
        The question of Russia's international status was actually resolved on December 21, 1991 in Alma-Ata, where the CIS member states have documented their desire to see the Russian Federation as the successor of the USSR, and themselves as full members of the UN.

        so "legal succession" is a rather complicated process.
        But brilliantly getting out of that situation was helped by the adoption of the fact - the successor, and not the legal successor.
        As a result, propagandists flaunt the succession. But in reality it is an internal stamp. The successors of all 15 republics.
        Assignment is carried out in a limited range.
        1. Clear
          Clear 11 July 2020 10: 06 New
          +2
          Here you have everything "terribly" simple
          Quote: Cristall
          The successors of all 15 republics.

          And, as you think
          Quote: Cristall
          As a result, propagandists flaunt the succession.

          then everything becomes
          Quote: Cristall
          so "legal succession" is a rather complicated process.

          And do not tell who suggested this
          Quote: Cristall
          internal
          stamp
          ? Correctly, also, the "utterly horrible inner friend" of Russia - the United States! Oh, did you know? repeat

          PS I just can not find your photo in the International Court of Justice and representatives of leading countries of the worldrequest
    2. Avior
      Avior 11 July 2020 01: 03 New
      0
      Officially, the Russian Federation declared itself the successor of the USSR in 1992 with this documentation
      MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION

      LETTER
      dated January 13, 1992 N 11 / UGP

      The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation shows its respect to the Heads of Diplomatic Representations in Moscow and has the honor to ask to bring to the attention of the Governments of accrediting states the following.
      The Russian Federation continues to exercise the rights and fulfill obligations arising from international treaties concluded by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
      Accordingly, the Government of the Russian Federation will perform instead of the Government of the USSR, the functions of a depository under the relevant multilateral agreements.
      In this regard, the Ministry requests that the Russian Federation be considered as a Party to all existing international treaties instead of the USSR.
      The Ministry takes this opportunity to renew to the Heads of Diplomatic Representations the assurances of their highest consideration.
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 July 2020 16: 57 New
    +1
    It is necessary to fight with these former ones in full, especially for the post-war reconstruction. Gundosy only treated in a bag and stick.
    1. Aag
      Aag 11 July 2020 20: 30 New
      +1
      We must offer the best conditions, and ask hard! There are big problems with both the first and second.
      And yet. There are fears, in the current realities, that the entire burden of "joining" the Baltic states will fall on the shoulders of the people, "taxpayers", and all the bonuses will go to a very limited circle of people ...)))
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 14 July 2020 10: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      You have to fight with these exes in full, especially for ...

      For this to tear late, the situation is gone. But to create modern reality for them, it is simply necessary that the Russian Federation is doing it slowly - look at the ports, a sad sight. But the impression that an integral plan, as it relates to them, does not exist in relation to the Baltic countries, but it is a pity.
  12. Radikal
    Radikal 10 July 2020 17: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Klingon
    and what does 1995 have to do with my dad? Will you poke me in the Chechen war or what? so my dad has nothing to do with it, when he worked in Gipro was still the Chechen-Ingush Republic

    My dear, you are in vain upset - I just asked, without any "back" thought. If you do not know what was there in the mentioned year, it is not your fault, and your relatives. Moreover, these walls helped to some extent. Is this clear? hi
  13. shubin
    shubin 10 July 2020 17: 10 New
    +4
    The city of Kirov is regional, my sister lives on a street with a symbolic name - "Production". If you drive along the street from end to end, you will see that there used to be at least a dozen enterprises here, and at that, quite large ones. To date, not a single one remains. And that's just one street. And if you take the city as a whole, then many dozen will be counted. And this is only in one medium-sized provincial city; in Russia as a whole, the bill will go to many thousands. Is it also the Balts to blame? Who should I bill?
    1. doubovitski
      doubovitski 10 July 2020 19: 19 New
      -7
      Quote: shubin
      The city of Kirov is regional, my sister lives on a street with a symbolic name - "Production". If you drive along the street from end to end, you will see that there used to be at least a dozen enterprises here, and at that, quite large ones. To date, not a single one remains. And that's just one street. And if you take the city as a whole, then many dozen will be counted. And this is only in one medium-sized provincial city; in Russia as a whole, the bill will go to many thousands. Is it also the Balts to blame? Who should I bill?

      And this is an account for himself. Because YOU created such a production, neither ..... nor to the Red Army, which could not compete with foreign goods that suddenly burst into the territory of the USSR. Previously, your shit was protected by the borders of the country. And when they were gone, it became clear that your hands were growing out of your ass.
      1. shubin
        shubin 11 July 2020 06: 35 New
        +2
        Judging by verbal diarrhea, you have an ass instead of a head, so shit is in your head.
    2. Aag
      Aag 11 July 2020 20: 17 New
      +2
      They see and understand this too. "Better European collapse" than Russian ...
  14. Suslin
    Suslin 10 July 2020 17: 11 New
    0
    Gorbachev’s guilt was that after a long rejection of the separation of the Baltic republics from the USSR, he allowed them to leave without compensation for the constructed industrial infrastructure. And the offers of compensation from the Baltic republics were voiced!
  15. uvxghk
    uvxghk 10 July 2020 17: 16 New
    +1
    It is interesting how Russia will compensate for several tens of thousands of lost lives in each of these Baltic republics from Stalinist repressions.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 10 July 2020 17: 29 New
      +5
      I wonder how
      You can look at the fire for a long time. Or listen to who is more to blame. Tell us about the deeds of Latvian shooters. Or if you prefer, you can be proud of the actions of the Latvian SS Volunteer Legion.
    2. doubovitski
      doubovitski 10 July 2020 19: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: uvxghk
      It is interesting how Russia will compensate for several tens of thousands of lost lives in each of these Baltic republics from Stalinist repressions.

      Carefully write down all those who repressed, who reported, and who shot. You will see that this is all the work of the Balts themselves. Further. Give a list of the "forest brothers" who were engaged in pure banditry. Whose surnames? And what, they needed to be rewarded? We are not. You are all the remaining bastard and abomination, not scorched by Stalin, and raises its tail.
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  16. Russ
    Russ 10 July 2020 17: 19 New
    +3
    Come on ... we are good-natured ... we forgive everyone ... yes the more the former ... sort of like "their" ....
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 10 July 2020 20: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: Russia
      Come on ... we are good-natured ... we forgive everyone ... yes the more the former ... sort of like "their" ....

      Beat your own so that others might fear wink ... (a football player consoled himself, scoring in his own goal) winked
  17. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 10 July 2020 17: 45 New
    -5
    Collect, return and share
  18. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 10 July 2020 17: 58 New
    +3
    Finally, we have seen that in politics there are no brothers and brothers, although there are doubts about the judicial perspective of such issues ..
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 July 2020 18: 20 New
      +3
      Finally, we realized that it was time for these presumptuous Baltic "tigers" to face the fact who owes how much to whom.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 10 July 2020 20: 10 New
        +4
        Quote: cniza
        Finally, we realized that it was time for these presumptuous Baltic "tigers" to face the fact who owes how much to whom.

        Welcome hi
        Now I would like to understand how long it will take from "finally understood" to "counted" recourse
        1. cniza
          cniza 10 July 2020 21: 16 New
          +2
          Greetings hi

          It all depends on their behavior, if they begin, they will receive an answer right away ...
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 10 July 2020 21: 56 New
            +2
            Quote: cniza
            Greetings hi

            It all depends on their behavior, if they begin, they will receive an answer right away ...

            wink yes, yes, chop off the tail to the ears! laughing
            1. cniza
              cniza 10 July 2020 22: 39 New
              +3
              Well, yes, no, they’ll just chop it off, but just show who, where and to whom how much to hang Tugriks ...
        2. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 11 July 2020 06: 15 New
          0
          Golden words you wrote! I would also add-, until received ,,
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 10 July 2020 20: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Although, doubts about the judicial perspective of such issues ..

      This, depending on who forms the composition of the court.
  19. cniza
    cniza 10 July 2020 18: 18 New
    +1
    After all, if you take everything into account, then Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia will be "heavily in debt" to Russia as the legal successor of the Soviet Union.


    If only they open their mouths and begin to demand something, then we will definitely count ...
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 10 July 2020 20: 11 New
      +5
      Quote: cniza
      If only they open their mouth

      Victor, so they didn’t close it No.
      1. cniza
        cniza 10 July 2020 21: 17 New
        +2
        No, it’s not yet pumping our reaction, it hasn’t yet reached the official level, we cannot be provoked ...
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 10 July 2020 21: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: cniza
          No, it’s not yet pumping our reaction, it hasn’t yet reached the official level, we cannot be provoked ...

          Got it laughing checking the body’s reaction to stress, such as: “They brought you pizza here. But we ate it! Haha! ”
          1. cniza
            cniza 10 July 2020 22: 41 New
            +1
            While they live on Do Chirac ...
  20. doubovitski
    doubovitski 10 July 2020 18: 54 New
    +1
    Of course, these are only posters, but in the archives there is a complete list of documents from which it is known how many and who SHOULD Russia. Of course, a claim is necessary. One in the form of a proposal to pay, the other in the form of ultimatums.



  21. Maks1995
    Maks1995 10 July 2020 20: 08 New
    0
    Wah! The Kremlin has already done many times: Forgive everyone.
    all the more so, such plums go for some reason after putting forward such claims, and not before .... and end in nothing.

    Therefore, all sorts of debts, the Baltic states and so on - a purely empty talking room .... 30 years have passed, the statute of limitations has passed ...
  22. iouris
    iouris 10 July 2020 20: 25 New
    +1
    It will not be possible to repay debts: now it is the EU, i.e. "Gross-Germany", and these provinces of the EU destroyed everything Soviet, stole away and do not have their own money.
  23. borys
    borys 10 July 2020 20: 31 New
    +1
    For Max 1995.
    And here it is. On many issues, the statute of limitations is much longer.
  24. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 10 July 2020 20: 59 New
    -1
    And in Riga there was the All-Union Institute of Engineering Technology, where I repeatedly flew. As for the huge investment of funds from the Union budget, then - yes - this is true. And it would be nice, of course, to present them all with counterclaims. There is no honest court to affirm them in the world. And there are no prospects for a return. But clicking on their nose will not hurt them well!
    1. Clear
      Clear 10 July 2020 21: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      But clicking on their nose will not hurt them well!

      That's right, Vladimir, count them and hire ... collectors yes
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 11 July 2020 06: 17 New
        0
        Taliban - to the collectors!
  25. Radikal
    Radikal 10 July 2020 21: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: Terenin
    Quote: Radikal
    Soviet property in the Baltic states: is it time to repay debts?

    Who, and in what way will return? sad

    Welcome.
    Judging by your nickname, and especially your name, the answer is obvious winked

    Explain a number of points - with a nickname it’s clear, but what about the name? Well, about the answer - which one is obvious to you? sad
  26. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 10 July 2020 22: 08 New
    -1
    But in general, you do not need to feel sorry for these traitors of Russophobia, you just need to think about how to do it in order to return from the Baltic states at least partially the debts of the USSR.
  27. Cristall
    Cristall 10 July 2020 23: 00 New
    -4
    I understand that this is all informational noise. And turn your attention to something else.
    Yes, and without mechanisms.
    They themselves laugh with reparations by other counted RFs, and they themselves offer to do the same, but with more unprovable leverage.
    Double standards however. But here it is necessary to understand. Such is the essence of man (one’s and another’s, one’s and another’s, they and we). And we are all primates and the natural is not alien to us.
    It’s interesting how they will consider the all-Union budget, but what if it’s a share of the Republic of Belarus in general and it should receive a money, not the RF? Or, in general, the share of many.
    Or, in the Russian Federation itself, objects under the Union of republics with a share - should they also give money?
    Well, such a Pandora’s box will be cleaner than Crimea ...
    In addition, a clear violation of existing contracts.
    Why am I *?
    Yes, the adoption of amendments somehow destroyed the sobriety of the thoughts of Russians ..
    Pumping articles have gone - now, with new amendments, we will ask you everything, give everything back, make you give ...
    After all, it's not the first thing in history to see all these "returns" and "small victorious" ..
    And the most rattling weapons when things inside are unimportant. And only a small victorious can solve the contradictions.
    In general, it is clear why they are so treated with the modern RF.
    She herself does not know what she wants. But he is trying in every possible way to impose this on the neighbors.
    1. Clear
      Clear 11 July 2020 10: 26 New
      0
      Quote: Cristall
      I understand that this is all informational noise. And turn your attention to something else.
      Yes, and without mechanisms.
      They themselves laugh with reparations by other counted RFs, and they themselves offer to do the same, but with more unprovable leverage.
      Double standards however. But here it is necessary to understand. Such is the essence of man (one’s and another’s, one’s and another’s, they and we). And we are all primates and the natural is not alien to us.
      It’s interesting how they will consider the all-Union budget, but what if it’s a share of the Republic of Belarus in general and it should receive a money, not the RF? Or, in general, the share of many.
      Or, in the Russian Federation itself, objects under the Union of republics with a share - should they also give money?
      Well, such a Pandora’s box will be cleaner than Crimea ...
      In addition, a clear violation of existing contracts.
      Why am I *?
      Yes, the adoption of amendments somehow destroyed the sobriety of the thoughts of Russians ..
      Pumping articles have gone - now, with new amendments, we will ask you everything, give everything back, make you give ...
      After all, it's not the first thing in history to see all these "returns" and "small victorious" ..
      And the most rattling weapons when things inside are unimportant. And only a small victorious can solve the contradictions.
      In general, it is clear why they are so treated with the modern RF.
      She herself does not know what she wants. But he is trying in every possible way to impose this on the neighbors.

      Oh, dear man, first find at least some kind of "balance" in politics, economics, socio-economic and other spheres ... in your Ukraine, and then "wisely" argue who
      Quote: Cristall
      loudest rattling weapons when things inside are unimportant.
  28. K298rtm
    K298rtm 10 July 2020 23: 22 New
    +2
    "... to grieve in the wake of past troubles is the surest way to the beginning of new troubles" (W. Shakespeare). It is necessary to look forward, to develop the country.
    1. Region68
      Region68 11 July 2020 04: 27 New
      0
      Gold words..
    2. Clear
      Clear 11 July 2020 10: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: K298rtm
      "... to grieve in the wake of past troubles is the surest way to the beginning of new troubles" (W. Shakespeare). It is necessary to look forward, to develop the country.

      Who will remember the old one, the eye is out
      Russian proverb

      I know, I know, but
      "who forgets, both of them"
      this is an addition wink
  29. Radikal
    Radikal 11 July 2020 00: 49 New
    -3
    Quote: Klingon
    and what does 1995 have to do with my dad? Will you poke me in the Chechen war or what? so my dad has nothing to do with it, when he worked in Gipro was still the Chechen-Ingush Republic

    Stupid, I feel sorry for you - you still don’t understand anything. Although your parents are decent people. hi
  30. Radikal
    Radikal 11 July 2020 00: 57 New
    -3
    Quote: K298rtm
    "... to grieve in the wake of past troubles is the surest way to the beginning of new troubles" (W. Shakespeare). It is necessary to look forward, to develop the country.

    So-a-ak, please show us "go ahead", and we will be in orderly ranks ..., in company, in battalion, and we can even deploy Siberian divisions, like in the Second World War, we will deploy near Moscow, just let us know - what are we going to develop? winked
  31. Llur
    Llur 11 July 2020 01: 08 New
    -1
    Someone did not understand anything. Or understood, but continues to play on the side of our enemies. The Russian Federation cannot be the successor of the USSR, because legally the Russian Federation is a company, and the Soviet Union still legally exists in the same way. If our ki squeeze something from their neighbors, then we won’t be better off from this, everything that is wrung out will go into the pockets of the traitors. At the moment, the Central Bank is a private shop, during the leadership of the struggle and the World War II they robbed the country for several trillion bucks and continue to rob, education is destroyed, industry is destroyed, medicine is destroyed, culture is at the bottom.
    -
    1. Escobar
      Escobar 13 July 2020 07: 41 New
      0
      Even if so, then let them rob. All the same, they are far from comrades.
  32. Joker62
    Joker62 11 July 2020 06: 07 New
    +3
    Quote: Ivanovich-2
    Why this list of shit factories?

    ....
    This is because the shit produced by Soviet factories for its production, nobody needs after opening markets.

    And what prevented these legacies of "shit produced by Soviet factories for its production" to make modernization to the level of European and world standards?
    There is only one conclusion - for greedy outcasts and so on - it is profitable to simply plunder than to invest in production.
    And you, my dear, are clearly a provocateur of the Soviet legacy, and I think that it’s you who are ready to ruin and sell all of your own than to invest, and, moreover, there are more fans of foreign products as quality.
    And didn’t you try to work with pens to make candy out of shit?
  33. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 11 July 2020 10: 14 New
    -1
    Quote: Ivanovich-2
    Do not promise.


    They can brazenly demand and pay with bombs

    These are two different questions.


    Yes, no, this is one and the same question .. The issue of tsarist debts was finally settled by Russia at the beginning of the zero. This is with regards to whose successor
  34. AlexSam
    AlexSam 13 July 2020 00: 56 New
    0
    minus ... I wonder when all these "patreots" had time to take a fancy ...
  35. Escobar
    Escobar 13 July 2020 07: 39 New
    +1
    Stop talking to these mongrel countries. Should, let them compensate. You look, they quarrel and slide back into the Stone Age. There will be the first NATO unit armed with clubs.
  36. alekSASHKA-36
    alekSASHKA-36 13 July 2020 08: 25 New
    0
    Is it time to return the Baltic states?
  37. RoTTor
    RoTTor 13 July 2020 19: 19 New
    0
    Traitors and bastards - the humpbacked and ebn-shka gave everything away.
    Now our good is in OUR ENEMIES and works against us.

    Everything must be returned to ALL Union republics - everything that was financed from the Union budget and was built by the forces of the entire USSR
  38. another RUSICH
    another RUSICH 14 July 2020 08: 43 New
    0
    All this blah blah blah.
    No one will return anything, and even will not raise such a question, in view of the obvious impossibility of collecting anything, well, except by force, by the reverse inclusion of the Tribaltics in Russia as provinces, but do we need it?
    And the article is just a good list of arguments in disputes with schira.
  39. Aag
    Aag 14 July 2020 20: 23 New
    0
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: AAG
    Did they notice, minus, apparently, people when the posted comments do not coincide with their aspirations?

    True, there are many such for whom only their opinion is the main and true, and someone else's is almost enemy. You yourself see what is being done in social networks, before the mat and threats.

    Solovyov heard enough, apparently ... Today I had a chance to "taste" on Vesti FM. Disgusting impressions. Educated, not (agree different definitions), but, a hardened, engaged journalist (IMHO): for half an hour he insulted five listeners, with threats, on " You". Like, you speak from Ukraine, only there are such stupid people! (People wrote from the Khabarovsk Territory). Regardless of the issue under discussion, disgusting!
    Many are influenced by ...
    So far I will refrain from developing the topic, not on the topic of the article. hi