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German MP: For Ukraine, EU membership will stretch for decades

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Deputies of the German Bundestag (parliament) ambiguously evaluate the reforms carried out by the Ukrainian authorities. In particular, Manuel Saracin, head of the Green Party’s Eastern European Politics Committee, who also represents the EU’s affairs committee, criticized recent political changes in Ukraine.


Manuel Saracen believes that stopping the war, which continues in the Donbass, will help Ukraine. At the same time, the German deputy believes that Ukraine does not use political force to stop the war. Saracen says that Zelensky, who has not only presidential powers, but also a parliamentary majority, actually stopped reforms in the country.

Saracen:

Germany is very interested in reforms in Ukraine. But no reforms are currently underway. We must send a signal to Vladimir Zelensky about our concern about what is happening.

Moreover, in Germany, the deputy of the Bundestag was asked if Ukraine has a “European future”. Manuel Saracin answered this question with a statement that the process of Europeanization of Ukraine will stretch for decades.

Saracen:

We are not talking about soon joining the European Union. This will stretch for decades.

Also, German journalists asked Saratsin his opinion on voting on amendments to the Basic Law of Russia. He said that based on these changes, "Putin became the eternal president of Russia, which shows not his strength, but the weakness of the system he created." The Bundestag deputy believes that in this situation in Russia, the confrontation with the West will only intensify.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 July 2020 22: 50 New
    +8
    German MP: For Ukraine, EU membership will stretch for decades
    For this carrot she will run for at least 100 years. He thinks she has them. fool
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 9 July 2020 22: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      For this carrot she will run for at least 100 years.

      Immediately after Turkey.
      Or maybe not right away ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 9 July 2020 23: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      For this carrot she will run for at least 100 years.

      For many years you measured it, they don’t live so much.
    3. mintai_kot
      mintai_kot 10 July 2020 10: 29 New
      +1
      This misunderstanding on the map will not last as long if it lasts ten years, to the maximum
  2. ccsr
    ccsr 9 July 2020 22: 55 New
    11
    This will stretch for decades.

    I think by that time the EU itself will not exist. But let the Ukrainians live with the dream of a wonderful future, when their Europeans will feed for free for their Russophobia - this is how they warm their souls ...
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 9 July 2020 23: 00 New
      +5
      Manuel Saracen
      Born 6.02.1982
      Place of birth Dortmund (land
      North Rhine-Westphalia)
      Student profession

      At age 40, an eternal student. There will never be a diploma. All went into the problems of Russia, can not eat. fool
      1. Errr
        Errr 10 July 2020 05: 36 New
        -1
        Well, why so? He ceased to be a student back in 2013.
        2005 wechselte er an die Universität Hamburg und schloss dort 2013 sein Studium in Geschichte, Osteuropastudien und Rechtswissenschaft ab.
        This in Russian means:
        In 2005, he moved to the University of Hamburg, and in 2013 he graduated there in the field of history, Eastern European studies and jurisprudence.
        More details in the source: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Sarrazin#Leben_und_Ausbildung
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 10 July 2020 08: 13 New
          -1
          hi Took data from: http://manuelsarrazin.de/wp-content/uploads/cvmanuelsarrazinrussischfebruar2010.pdf
          his site? request
          1. Errr
            Errr 10 July 2020 08: 47 New
            -1
            Apparently this document has been over seven years old. Data is out of date. hi
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 9 July 2020 23: 22 New
      +2
      And how many decades? 20 years old, 30 or 60? Something Hajj Nasruddin remembered. With his famous phrase about the shah and donkey.
      1. Katanikotael
        Katanikotael 10 July 2020 13: 41 New
        +1
        Yes, even a thousand, Turkey had every chance to get into the EU, but someone forgot that NATO is not the EU.
    3. svp67
      svp67 10 July 2020 07: 30 New
      0
      Quote: ccsr
      I think by that time the EU itself will not exist.

      and they will all be keen to join him ...
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 July 2020 23: 06 New
    +3
    The Germans, they are so different ... but everyone says the same thing about Ukraine’s entry into the EU ... wassat
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 9 July 2020 23: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The Germans, they are so different ... but everyone talks about the entry of Ukraine into the EU in exactly the same way.

      In all EU countries, at a hint from Ukraine joining the union, all limbs begin to shake. Large and rich countries "we will not be able to cover their expenses," and our limitrophes "will cut our subsidies right away." And now everyone is happy, migrant workers are running again, we could not remove 60-70% of strawberries, but the vegetables will be removed, and the road workers have replenished, construction sites are staffed with low-skilled builders.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 9 July 2020 23: 20 New
    +2
    The Bundes deputy is a great optimist .... however, the green ones are probably all like that.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 9 July 2020 23: 56 New
      +1
      I remember the statements and questions of the pig: "Ready to join the New Year ...", "Ready to join now ....." "
      Silence in response negative Geyropeytsev ....
      And how they tried to be accepted. wassat laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 11 July 2020 10: 34 New
        +1
        Well, they want all sorts of different and more at home, plus a rainbow temka fool
        You can’t forbid to go crazy.
        1. Vestovoi
          Vestovoi 11 July 2020 10: 42 New
          -3
          Quote: rocket757
          Well, they want all sorts of different and more at home, plus a rainbow temka fool
          You can’t forbid to go crazy.

          This is their only source of income left ... hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 11 July 2020 11: 12 New
            +1
            The creator endowed his children with much more than necessary, incl. and brains!
            Gave freedom of choice, besides ..... some of it all turned out to be in vain!
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 11 July 2020 11: 20 New
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              The creator endowed his children with much more than necessary, incl. and brains!
              Gave freedom of choice, besides ..... some of it all turned out to be in vain!

              Such is their choice. Many can be mistaken, but for decades to persist in their mistakes .....
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 11 July 2020 11: 36 New
                +1
                Quote: Reptiloid
                Such is their choice. Many may be mistaken, but for decades persist in their mistakes

                Hi Dmitry soldier
                Such is their choice. Constant and sorry.
            2. Vestovoi
              Vestovoi 11 July 2020 11: 34 New
              -3
              Quote: rocket757
              The creator endowed his children with much more than necessary, incl. and brains!
              Gave freedom of choice, besides ..... some of it all turned out to be in vain!

              The toad strangled to see, the mentality is such alas .. Even the jokes went ..))))
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 11 July 2020 11: 42 New
                +1
                Such times. What is there in the geyrop of such races of this kind that can remain after all the events taking place ... Schaub not to see this, one must be very blind, deaf and without brains.
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 11 July 2020 11: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          Well, they want all sorts of different and more at home, plus a rainbow temka fool You can’t forbid to go crazy.
          Well yes! To work out a rainbow theme, thoroughly, to enter the EU at the end of the century ..... then they will heal then.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 11 July 2020 11: 38 New
            +1
            GEYROPA becomes very strange. To go that way, to completely lose yourself ...
          2. Vestovoi
            Vestovoi 11 July 2020 11: 39 New
            -3
            Quote: Reptiloid
            Well yes! To work out a rainbow theme, thoroughly, to enter the EU at the end of the century ..... then they will heal then.

            Dmitry is all going to this, but for now they want to do all of them on the outskirts .. SHAME !!!!!

            It wasn’t easy to do, and the money wasn’t small, someone spent .. damn it.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 11 July 2020 11: 55 New
              0
              Yes, it was necessary to calculate this negative foreshortening, for the pilot, to take a photo and declare Ukraine repeat such a middle kind. But how is it for those who fought against the Nazis, who remember the Second World War?
              1. Vestovoi
                Vestovoi 11 July 2020 12: 18 New
                -2
                Quote: Reptiloid
                Yes, it was necessary to calculate this negative foreshortening, for the pilot, to take a photo and declare Ukraine repeat such a middle kind. But how is it for those who fought against the Nazis, who remember the Second World War?

                This is the worst Dmitry that they can do with the Outskirts .. But to see the fate they chose for themselves ...
                After that, it’s scary fat to buy from them)))))
                But in general, everything went to this and according to plan ...
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 11 July 2020 12: 23 New
                  0
                  What's so bad about buying? Probably disgusting. Better say so. But in our city it is not, probably. I didn’t hear what anyone would say. Belorussian, our Russian ...... I heard about Hungarian ....
                  People didn’t buy their sweets and cookies ....
                  1. Vestovoi
                    Vestovoi 11 July 2020 13: 14 New
                    -3
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    What's so bad about buying? Probably disgusting.

                    It is disgusting and very .. Yes and no they are already on sale.
  5. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 9 July 2020 23: 22 New
    +2
    Forever Ukraine enters somewhere. That in gamno, then in the EU))
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 9 July 2020 23: 43 New
      10
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Forever Ukraine enters somewhere. That in gamno, then in the EU))


      1. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 10 July 2020 00: 27 New
        0
        But instead of the "Big Seven" 404, the Baltic "giants", rodents and Poles can create the "Small Six"
      2. Errr
        Errr 10 July 2020 05: 46 New
        -1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        At the same time, the "Impudent Occupant" is a guest here because of the Big Puddle, i.e. not Russia at all. laughing laughing laughing good
      3. svp67
        svp67 10 July 2020 07: 31 New
        0
        Why is "pending entry"? They have been "tinkering" on it for a long time ...
  6. rumpeljschtizhen
    rumpeljschtizhen 9 July 2020 23: 24 New
    0
    Yes, I remember ...... So they talked about the Baltic states and Romania ... They say for the deletion .... And they won NATO .... You can’t believe them
    1. harpsichord
      harpsichord 9 July 2020 23: 31 New
      -4
      The main thing is not to join this union ...
      http://realtribune.ru/news/people/4616?utm_source=finobzor.ru
  7. FIR FIR
    FIR FIR 9 July 2020 23: 25 New
    0
    Manuel Saracin, EU Representative and Committee

    A true German says how to become a true European.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 9 July 2020 23: 33 New
      +2
      Quite real, born in 1982 in Dortmund. An active supporter of the Greens. A young politician from the new. At the age of 26, already a member of the Bundestag ...
      1. oldzek
        oldzek 10 July 2020 12: 06 New
        0
        but I’m wondering: whose member is he? After all, he’s not by himself ... who’s uh ... feeds him?
  8. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 10 July 2020 00: 05 New
    0
    First, everyone will "leave" the EU, and then, what would the officials bully from Brussels was what and who to "lead" the EU will accept Ukraine wassat but the EU capital will remain in Brussels.
  9. Stalllker
    Stalllker 10 July 2020 00: 07 New
    0
    Ukraine will never be a full member of the EU. She's like a bastard ...
    1. Dmitry10SPb
      Dmitry10SPb 10 July 2020 17: 35 New
      -1
      So they said about Poland. It’s not serious.
      Now optimists will run up who will tell that Ukraine will fall apart, the EU will fall apart, the people from Ukraine will scatter, the people from the EU will scatter. I see no reason for that. Generally. But I think my potential opponents are no stupider than me. Apparently, there are many "professional optimists" among them, such, you know, on the salary.
      1. Stalllker
        Stalllker 10 July 2020 17: 44 New
        0
        England seems to have left the EU ?! It means that she is no longer what she was. Ukraine also has problems, Donbass is gone, Crimea too. What will the "optimists" say wrong ?!
        1. Dmitry10SPb
          Dmitry10SPb 10 July 2020 17: 57 New
          -1
          England always looked at the specimen. The islanders, cho. The main problem of the EU, in my opinion, is the Brussels bureaucrats. Is it dangerous for them? Yes, but not to decay. Amenable to correction. There are too many bonuses in EU membership.
          I won’t say anything about Crimea, but Donbass residents feel they are losing. Mova, federalization - it was not worth it. The level of earnings fell sharply compared with the pre-war period. On the other hand, several million opponents of the path to the West were out of action. Every year, purely proponents of the EU course are growing.
          1. Stalllker
            Stalllker 10 July 2020 20: 04 New
            0
            In fact, England, Donbass and Crimea are gone ?!
  10. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 10 July 2020 00: 22 New
    0
    Some units may enter, for example, Galicia in Poland, though Poland is probably not Europe, but a rug at its entrance.
    1. Dmitry10SPb
      Dmitry10SPb 10 July 2020 17: 42 New
      0
      There are very few who would like the collapse of their country. And their opponents are quite active.
      Nobody will enter Poland. These are the wet dreams of a "patriot". A country from the EU and NATO will lose too much in the annexation of territories. And then, the disloyal population, the weak economy of Galicia - do they need it?
      Are you serious about the doormat? What is it limited in the EU?
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 10 July 2020 00: 28 New
    +1
    It’s old, in Ukraine they have already spoken about the future. “Today, tomorrow, not everyone can look. Or rather, not only everyone can watch. Few can do it.” Manuel Saracin probably talked with the author of these lines, since he made such a conclusion.
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 10 July 2020 02: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Manuel Saracen probably talked with the author of these lines, once made such a conclusion.

      Probably also engaged in boxing.
  12. Alien From
    Alien From 10 July 2020 02: 29 New
    0
    It is doubtful that the Hychels will ever be accepted there, they have too many hungry mouths.
  13. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 10 July 2020 06: 02 New
    0
    laughing No, my friend called himself a cargo, so climb the body. The main thing is that there are more of such holodroots on the neck of the burghers.
  14. KCA
    KCA 10 July 2020 06: 02 New
    0
    I don’t understand one thing, are they really cranks for all politicians who can’t understand that they will never join the EU, or are they just pouring people into the ears to maintain morale? Why the EU 40+ million parasites? Nobody will restore industry, tea is not the USSR, why Germany, say, produce competitors? CX is subsidized in the EU, and despite subsidies, farmers constantly riot, they will fill up parliament with apples, fill them with milk, or even waste from domestic animals, who also needs dumping from the black earth belt? They will connect Ukrainian NPPs to the EU power grid, because soon there will be seams with electricity, as Germany shuts down NPPs, they will force them to carry out regulations and repairs by Rosatom and that's it, then feeding breakfast again
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 July 2020 06: 13 New
    +1
    Khokhs will join the EU until the collapse of this structure. fellow negative
  16. NF68
    NF68 10 July 2020 17: 18 New
    0
    And then either the donkey dies or the padishah dies. Turkey has also been "joining" the EU for half a century, but everything is just bypassed.
  17. Dmitry10SPb
    Dmitry10SPb 10 July 2020 17: 46 New
    -1
    It is quite indicative that the people do not comment on the statements of this German about Russia, about the president and about amendments to the constitution. Apparently agree. In the shower.
    About the European future of Ukraine, he honestly said that this is a road for decades. In Ukraine they know this. Let the economy be raised first. You must agree that the path chosen is more correct than ours.
    1. Katanikotael
      Katanikotael 10 July 2020 21: 40 New
      0
      They have already signed an association agreement, the sales market has been received and there is no need for a larger EU ... they have already survived SALO imports!
  18. GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 11 July 2020 08: 11 New
    0
    Quote: mintai_kot
    This misunderstanding on the map will not last as long if it lasts ten years, to the maximum

    So after all, LIVING the country you would have lived ten more, he’ll break through the hydroelectric power station ..... Atomic ...... Solyaras drain TONS into the swamps of the tundra