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Turkey began the second phase of tests of S-400 air defense systems by American fighters

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Turkey began the second phase of tests of S-400 air defense systems by American fighters

Turkey has begun the next phase of trials of the S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile system, purchased from Russia. It is reported by Fighter Jets World.


According to the publication, the tests of the S-400 began on July 4 at the Myurt airbase near Ankara. The system will be circled around by US-made F-16 Fighting Falcon and F-4 Phantom II fighters. It is reported that tests involve the flight of fighters at high and low altitudes. Testing of Russian missile systems is planned to be completed in November this year.

Thus, according to the publication, Ankara ignored US warnings about possible sanctions due to the S-400 air defense system tests.


Recall that this is the second test of the Russian S-400 system, conducted by Turkey. For the first time, radar coverage of Russian stations was also carried out by F-16 Fighting Falcon and F-4 Phantom II fighters in November last year. According to the results of those tests, information appeared that the tests were more "complex than expected in Russia." It was also reported that the S-400 was tested not only by airplanes, but even by helicopter.

Subsequently, the United States expressed strong concern about the tests and threatened Ankara with further sanctions.
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 7 July 2020 18: 12 New
    10
    If you do not want to give mattresses, then the S-400 really confirms its performance characteristics.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 7 July 2020 18: 17 New
      20
      If the system did not pass the test, then they would not have concluded a second contract! hi
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 7 July 2020 18: 31 New
        +7
        Quote: neri73-r
        If the system did not pass the test, then they would not have concluded a second contract!

        It would be more interesting, of course, if tests were carried out on the F-22 and F-35.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 7 July 2020 20: 34 New
          +6
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          It would be more interesting, of course, if tests were carried out on the F-22 and F-35.

          Turkey tests its S-400 missiles to track F-22s and F-35s
          https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_july_2020_global_security_army_industry/turkey_has_tested_its_s-400_missile_system_to_track_f-22s_and_f-35s.html
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 7 July 2020 20: 44 New
            0
            Quote: Spade
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            It would be more interesting, of course, if tests were carried out on the F-22 and F-35.

            Turkey tests its S-400 missiles to track F-22s and F-35s
            https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_july_2020_global_security_army_industry/turkey_has_tested_its_s-400_missile_system_to_track_f-22s_and_f-35s.html

            Thank you.
          2. Charik
            Charik 7 July 2020 21: 58 New
            0
            ? that it was the Turks who tested the C400 to escort F22-35?
        2. Charik
          Charik 7 July 2020 21: 56 New
          -2
          and then later transferred to Russia good
          1. Andrey Ostroushko
            Andrey Ostroushko 7 July 2020 22: 10 New
            +6
            Israeli airfields, where their F-35s are located and fly, are located within the range of our S-400s in Hmeimim (look at the map). We know everything about them for a long time
            1. Charik
              Charik 7 July 2020 22: 17 New
              -2
              there is a difference — the Turks could try all the varicas — from above — from below — from left to right — with reb-without reb-with external suspensions — single-group — so no need to compare with Israeli take-offs — they took off and dive
              1. Andrey Ostroushko
                Andrey Ostroushko 7 July 2020 22: 24 New
                +2
                What a dive, Israeli F-35s from these military airfields operate dozens of flights over their territory every day, including military ones, including over the territory of Lebanon and the Mediterranean Sea. They shoot at the territory of Syria with planning bombs, without crossing the border, and for this a high altitude is needed. And how can a plane not fly from all angles?
                1. Charik
                  Charik 7 July 2020 22: 31 New
                  -7
                  since the air defense system and its radar station are in the same position and you can fly to it on one side and they already know where to fly so that they see less, walked to the launch point at small ones, took off at the desired one, threw them off and back down
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 8 July 2020 01: 55 New
            +4
            Quote: Charik
            and then later transferred to Russia

            It is written there:
            Турция испытала свои первые российские системы С-400 "Триумф" на истребителях F-22 Raptor и F-35 Lightning II. BulgarianMilitary.com со ссылкой на "Вечерний Курьер" и журналы "Мир истребителей". The test results were not disclosed, but judging by the absence of complaints, it can be assumed that the country is completely satisfied with the systems.as BulgarianMilitary writes.
            На авиабазе Мюрт развернуты две батареи зенитных ракетных комплексов С-400 российского производства. Они были испытаны по меньшей мере трижды на американских истребителях-невидимках. Информационное агентство "авиапро" указывает, что в зоне обнаружения систем появились не только самолеты F-35, но и более секретные F-22.

            Американские истребители пятого поколения направлялись на Ближний Восток через Черное море и непосредственно в Турцию. Их маршрут пролегал примерно в 170-200 километрах от турецкой авиабазы Мюрт. Поэтому турецкая сторона имела прекрасную возможность испытать свои С-400 в аэродинамических целях. Это уже не первое испытание турецких С-400 над американскими истребителями: в ноябре 2019 года появились видеозаписи, показывающие испытания РЛС С-400 на истребителях F-16 и F-4E Phantoms. Таким образом, Турция перешла "еще одну красную черту", начав испытания приобретенной у России системы радиолокационного обнаружения в составе системы противоракетной обороны С-400, заявил сенатор США от штата Мэриленд Кристофер Ван Холлен.

            The United States wanted to buy S-400 missile systems from Turkey to break the deadlock regarding Ankara’s participation in the F-35 Lightning II production program. To the satisfaction of Russia, Turkey rejected this offer.
            1. Charik
              Charik 8 July 2020 10: 00 New
              -1
              Yeah, and the Americans flying helped the Turks from all angles and in different modes spun in front of the radar laughing
            2. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 8 July 2020 17: 16 New
              0
              while Turkey has an export option, that is, castrated.
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 7 July 2020 18: 30 New
      -8
      Quote: NEXUS
      If you do not want to give mattresses, then S-400

      Not to life!
      . The first time around the radar of Russian stations was also carried out by fighters F-16 Fighting Falcon and F-4 Phantom II last November
      I already wrote S-400s bought only to protect the life and health of the precious sultan from the next coup of flyers on the F-16, but the Retriot does not shoot at its own.
      1. ans
        ans 7 July 2020 19: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        I already wrote S-400 bought only to protect the life and health of the precious Sultan from another coup flyers on the F-16

        for this purpose, it would be enough to purchase something that is clearly simpler and cheaper, for example, the S-300 with some necessary modernization. The S-400 seems clearly redundant.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 7 July 2020 19: 57 New
          0
          Quote: ans
          The S-400 seems clearly redundant.

          For you and me, of course, but not the precious Sultan who has been attacked more than once.
        2. businessv
          businessv 7 July 2020 20: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: ans
          The S-400 seems clearly redundant.

          I think that Erdogan does not think so - after all, his life is at stake, not yours! smile
          1. ans
            ans 8 July 2020 07: 04 New
            0
            Драгоценная жизнь султана тут не причём...Защита важнейшего проекта газопровода, сами знаете какого от сами знаете кого, а вместе с тем и своего дражайшего турецкого народа от демократии и её авианосцев...И определённо НЕ без систематических, и полагаю весьма убедительных "предложений" со стороны Москвы. Вот так вернее будет.
          2. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 9 July 2020 12: 33 New
            -3
            F-16 is not only in Turkey. Maybe the fate of Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Iraq does not allow you to sleep soundly without the S-400?
      2. businessv
        businessv 7 July 2020 19: 58 New
        -1
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        I already wrote S-400s bought only to protect the life and health of the precious sultan from the next coup of flyers on the F-16, but the Retriot does not shoot at its own.
        You are not alone, colleague! The impetus for the acquisition of the complex was precisely the putsch in 2016 after the F-16 shooting result you indicated, and a supply agreement was concluded.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 7 July 2020 20: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: businessv
          The motivation for the acquisition of the complex was precisely the putsch of 2016

          No.
          In fact, the starting point was the conflict in Syria
        2. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 8 July 2020 01: 00 New
          0
          Did someone shoot at F 16 coup? Or did I miss something!
      3. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 7 July 2020 20: 26 New
        0
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        The retriot does not fire on his own.


        С чего вы это решили интересно? Все зависит от того какой ответ будет давать цель в ответ на облучение - свой или чужой (в ответ на облучение радаром). Патриот уже сбивал цели дававшие ответ "Свой", насколько я помню в войне в заливе.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 8 July 2020 12: 51 New
          0
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          It all depends on what kind of response the target will give in response to radiation - one’s own or someone else’s (in response to radiation exposure).

          You act honestly, expressed your opinion and it does not matter whether it is correct or not, but it is YOUR, unlike those who do not have their own opinion and just put the minuses they don’t like letters.
          А теперь к нашим"баранам".
          Radar recognition system ("Friend or foe") - IFF encoding (program for identifying friends and enemies)
          If Turkey relies heavily on NATO, the IFF system considers all NATO member states to be friendly. Not to mention their own. And if an F-16 attack is made, the IFF system will not consider this as an attack and will ignore it.
          Turkey plans to make its S-400 interface program compatible with NATO systems, but not compatible with its Air Force YES WILL BE ANSWERED "Friend or foe"
          That’s why they’ve been checking the S-400 on the F-16 for so long and in a few calls.
          But what will end all these cunning and wise men of Erdogan we will see.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 8 July 2020 16: 48 New
            -1
            The system of state recognition periodically updates the codes. I will not go deep into this question.
            The fact is that at one moment Turkey can be cut off from the NATO identification codes on one side, and on the other hand, the identification codes can be changed by the Turkish armed forces. This is also possible ..
            The bottom line is this does not depend on technology. If the owner needs, you can change the codes
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 8 July 2020 18: 27 New
              0
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              I will not go deep into this question.

              And do not, I served in the air defense.
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              If the owner needs, you can change the codes

              This is all right, but the manufacturer Patriot, the company Raytheon and the NATO leadership do not give permission to change to different codes. In the case of the S-400, everything is possible for your money. And this is all annoying Americans. And Erdogan wants to sit comfortably in two chairs both at home and married.
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 8 July 2020 18: 46 New
                -1
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                I served in air defense.

                Then you have an idea what it is about
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                but the manufacturer Patriot, the company Raytheon and the NATO leadership do not give permission to change to different codes.

                Oh, how interesting!
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                And Erdogan wants to sit comfortably in two chairs both at home and married.

                The Americans did everything for this ...
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 8 July 2020 19: 14 New
                  0
                  Thank you, I understand YOU lol
      4. Gorecc
        Gorecc 7 July 2020 20: 45 New
        +1
        I already wrote S-400 bought only to protect the life and health of the precious sultan from another coup of the flyers on the F-16, but the Retriot does not fire at its own

        what nonsense? The C-400 was bought in order to reinforce the claims of the Turks in the eastern Mediterranean (disputes over the gas shelf) in a hypothetical conflict with the same Greece (which has both patriots and c300). You have to understand that before buying the c400, the Turks didn’t have a modern air defense system at all, and that for a country that has very strained relations with its neighbors it’s an unacceptable luxury. ), so the option with 400 worked.
        The only thing for the Turks IMHO was to wait for the delivery of at least the first pair of f-35s, and only then enter into a contract for the supply of Russian systems, then the jamb came out, they were incomplete)
      5. Prisoner
        Prisoner 7 July 2020 21: 12 New
        0
        what So he is not really a stranger either.
      6. +5
        +5 8 July 2020 11: 05 New
        0
        and the Retriot doesn’t shoot in his own way.

        Dadysh ???? The pilot of the American F-16, shot down by the American Patriot in Iraq, doesn’t agree ... another Patriot, inundated with the AGM-88 with the F-16, was avenged ...
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 8 July 2020 13: 46 New
          -1
          Quote: 5-9
          Dadysh ????

          Iraq joins NATO?
          It was turned off the defendant system "friend or foe." Apparently they, too, like you decided that in the territory of the country of NATO.
          readTHOSE Higher.
          1. +5
            +5 8 July 2020 13: 47 New
            -1
            Again

            Pilot American F-16, downed American Patriot in Iraq
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 8 July 2020 13: 56 New
              0
              Quote: 5-9
              Again

              Read my post above.
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 8 July 2020 16: 50 New
                -1
                Erroneous recognition of codes is quite likely. Especially when there is no time to clarify
    3. venik
      venik 7 July 2020 18: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      If you do not want to give mattresses, then the S-400 really confirms its performance characteristics.

      =======
      So the Turks recognized it last fall!
    4. Svetlana
      Svetlana 8 July 2020 00: 00 New
      -1
      The test can only be one of the weights on the scales to give - not to give.
      Other weights are:
      - Fear of quarreling with Russia
      - Give a little.
      - Erdogon remembers that it was America that made the failed coup.
      - There is nothing to shoot down American planes.
      ...Etc. ..
      The Americans have just cast a bait and bargaining will continue. And in the end, it is not necessary that the C400 does not fall into American hands.
  2. Asad
    Asad 7 July 2020 18: 23 New
    +6
    It’s difficult to NATO, I’ll give there and I won’t give you! They did not give the United States sold Russia! Let your elbows bite.
  3. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 7 July 2020 18: 23 New
    +7
    I wonder what they want to know? For the S-400, these machines, if they do not use jammers, are not a problem to detect.
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 7 July 2020 18: 27 New
      +3
      I wonder what they want to know?


      All that can be exchanged for indulgence.
    2. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 7 July 2020 18: 31 New
      -4
      Look at the date of the US presidential election wink
    3. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 7 July 2020 18: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      I wonder what they want to know? For the S-400, these machines, if they do not use jammers, are not a problem to detect.


      There are always boundary values ​​for performance characteristics. Even if the truth is written in a piece of paper, it still makes sense to check, this is the first batch. Moreover, this is training.

      Regarding testing with electronic warfare. Most likely they will also check, but for the full picture you need to check without electronic warfare.

      And the fact that they will need to check necessarily. This is a friend or foe job with EW on. It is unlikely that the factory tests were. Russian air defense, and NATO module.
    4. venik
      venik 7 July 2020 18: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      I wonder what they want to know?

      ========
      And Allah knows them! Last year, for example, they were truly amazed at the ability of the 400s to detect and track the target, whose tangential velocity component is 0 (i.e., there is no Doppler effect) ..... request
    5. Vita vko
      Vita vko 7 July 2020 18: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      if they do not use jammers

      The capabilities of the jammers available to Turkey were tested first. Now, under the guise of repeated tests, work is underway to integrate the S-400 into the Turkish air defense system. SAM is not enough to deploy, it is necessary for ACS systems to understand it, integration with recognition, shooting systems, etc. is needed.
    6. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 7 July 2020 18: 50 New
      0
      Verify the instructions for combat engagement with reality.
    7. bayard
      bayard 7 July 2020 20: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      I wonder what they want to know?

      A routine flyby for compiling visibility zone maps for a specific type of target, at all heights and from all angles, with the identification and accurate documentation of all closing angles, for a specific position and specific radar.
    8. Gorecc
      Gorecc 7 July 2020 20: 48 New
      0
      maybe they want to know the detection threshold by range and altitude? how does the system behave when jamming?
    9. Charik
      Charik 7 July 2020 22: 03 New
      0
      when jamming, it’s impossible to detect the plane, I think it’s possible to make a capture, only the range is unknown, maybe other characteristics of the target are also possible?
    10. Avior
      Avior 8 July 2020 00: 13 New
      0
      it’s quite possible that they simply adjusted the radar, for this purpose the planes drove
    11. +5
      +5 8 July 2020 11: 07 New
      0
      S-400 interference can be crushed, of course, but the result will not please .... it can only be at the detection boundary, and even then ..
  4. Mouse
    Mouse 7 July 2020 18: 27 New
    0
    Did American fighters survive? Or how? recourse
  5. Fan
    Fan 7 July 2020 18: 30 New
    +1
    Thus, according to the publication, Ankara ignored US warnings about possible sanctions due to the S-400 air defense system tests.

    Well, if the United States is shaking like that, then there is a reason ... But this is an export option!
    Come on Erdogan show the power of Russian air defense!
    А то тут "некотоыи товаищи" уже плюваться начали ,типо туфту русские создали..Ну ну .
  6. Grazdanin
    Grazdanin 7 July 2020 18: 30 New
    -5
    Testing of Russian missile systems is planned to be completed in November this year.

    The 2020 US presidential election is scheduled for November 3, 2020.
    Coincidence?)
  7. Magic archer
    Magic archer 7 July 2020 18: 32 New
    +2
    It would be interesting to know the results. Especially with modern Western technology. Especially with the use of electronic warfare
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 7 July 2020 18: 44 New
      -1
      Quote: Magic Archer
      It would be interesting to know the results. Especially with modern Western technology. Especially with the use of electronic warfare

      Um. Is phantom a modern technique? request
      1. Magic archer
        Magic archer 7 July 2020 18: 59 New
        +1
        Did I voice Phantoms ?! I meant at least the F-16 of the latest modifications.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 7 July 2020 20: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: Magic Archer
          Did I voice Phantoms ?! I meant at least the F-16 of the latest modifications.

          And where did the Turks get the latest modifications?
          1. Gorecc
            Gorecc 7 July 2020 20: 49 New
            0
            so the Turks have rippers and are armed, I read about it here laughing
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 7 July 2020 22: 04 New
              -1
              True, no one saw them, Except for one dreamer, Military Belance did not know about them, Jane for 12 years too. Wiki Russian current knows. Adnaka ...
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 7 July 2020 20: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            And where did the Turks get the latest modifications?

            Incirlik
            And not only F-16
          3. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 7 July 2020 21: 56 New
            -1
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            And where did the Turks get the latest modifications?

            The Turk F16 block 50 is the most modern, like yours, also modified. They recently installed an electronic protection system, they could test it.
        2. Charik
          Charik 7 July 2020 22: 11 New
          0
          but no matter what F16, they are all the same, just the Israelis all the same on invisible planes cryat them C400 is not scary
          1. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 8 July 2020 13: 12 New
            0
            Israelis vseravno on invisible planes cryat them C400 is not scary

            - три раза "ХА"
            8-))
      2. Charik
        Charik 7 July 2020 22: 09 New
        0
        if Fantik and F16 in size, like most other NATO aircraft, then what is the difference - and suspended containers of the same identical algorithms
  8. Cowbra
    Cowbra 7 July 2020 19: 09 New
    +1
    The Senate has already blazed, by the way
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 7 July 2020 20: 48 New
      +2
      Я бы назвал это "бомбануло" laughing
      They themselves are to blame, we must pay attention to the needs of the allies. And do not try to use their problems to create another leash ...
  9. Alien From
    Alien From 7 July 2020 22: 43 New
    0
    Heather Sultan is impossible .... otherwise he would not have sat so much as a leader ......
  10. Desert Battleship
    Desert Battleship 8 July 2020 06: 26 New
    0
    If in the mind, then Turkey would need to pass the test data to the manufacturer of the air defense system manufacturer, so to speak, to improve performance in the future wink
  11. gregor6549
    gregor6549 8 July 2020 08: 13 New
    +1
    My opinion. Of course, the Turks will not give the S-400 to anyone. Not for that bought. But the test results are likely to merge the United States, perhaps that is not free. And they will kill two bunnies at once. And with the S-400 they will remain, and they will make peace with the Americans. After all, there are more ways of counteracting such air defense systems than those of the air defense system itself. I do not exclude that such a game was started from the very beginning of the negotiations between the Turks and Russia on the sale of this system.
  12. Dikson
    Dikson 8 July 2020 09: 29 New
    0
    With the same success, you can write in the headline: the US Air Force is painstakingly learning to resist the C400 complex
  13. Charik
    Charik 8 July 2020 15: 27 New
    0
    Turkey began the second phase of the S400 air defense test with its American-made fighters