Business Insider: Villagers in Russia end up in danger zone due to test of Petrel rocket

Military work near Severodvinsk may be dangerous for residents of the village of Nenoksa, Arkhangelsk region. Therefore, they were warned that from six in the morning of July 7 to six in the evening of July 8, it is better to leave this village.

Information about this appeared on the official administration site Severodvinsk.

A telephone message with the request to organize vehicles for those who wish to leave Nyonokshan was sent to the head of the Nyonoksky territorial department, Valery Mashenkov. According to him, on July 7 at 5:00 from the street 40 years of Victory, 11 will be sent five buses. The same number of vehicles will be organized in the village of Sopka.

Near the village of Nenoksa on the White Sea coast there is a naval training ground fleet RF, where a research center is said to be carrying out work. At this point, almost all types of missiles entering the arsenal of the Russian Navy are being tested.

Journalists of the American edition of Business Insider suggest that the Burevestnik cruise missile will be tested at the test site, which will cause the residents of Nenoksy to end up in the danger zone. Last year, during such work, an accident occurred, which killed five employees of the nuclear center and two military personnel. In addition, there was an emission of radiation. The Americans claim that these were unsuccessful trials of the Petrel.

Now for the period of work at the training ground, residents of the village are offered to leave their homes and leave the village on free buses. At the moment, nothing is known about the creation of temporary accommodation centers or compensation for inconvenience.

Comments

[Woodman]

From 6:00 on July 7 to 18:00 on July 8, the village of Nenoksa falls into the danger zone during work by the 1st scientific center of military unit 09703. This was reported by the department.

This is from the same site of the administration of Severodvinsk.

According to him, on July 7 at 5:00 from the street 40 years of Victory, 11 will be sent five buses. The same number of vehicles will be organized in the village of Sopka.

It turns out that residents will only have an hour to leave by bus from the danger zone ...

[Civil]

We must endure for the sake of the country's defense. The ring of enemies around Russia ... fascists in Finland, Ukraine, the Baltic states, Georgia, Turkmenistan and militaristic Japan, led by the Nazi West, are preparing a blow to the independent and prosperous young capitalist Russia ...

[Woodman]

Quote: Civil

are preparing a blow to the independent and prosperous young capitalist Russia ..

Do not panic ahead of time.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lesovik

Do not panic ahead of time.

"There are rumors that there will be no more gossip, there are rumors that rumors will be banned."

[snucerist]

In adulthood, it's time to learn to distinguish humor and sarcasm from panic.

[akarfoxhound]

Well, the citizen of the joined mattresses, this does not apply. You should worry about Petrel only during "tests" in the area of ​​your village in Oklahoma region.

[vargo]

Tests do not start right away, the scope of time is wider than direct tests. Yes, and in an hour they all have time

[Woodman]

Quote: vargo

Yes, and in an hour they all have time

They just surprised the time frame, and so this evacuation is a regular reinsurance.

[Alex777]

God grant that all tests pass successfully!
And so that the rocket flew, and people did not suffer.

[Charik]

just this rocket is for suffering someone

[Alex777]

Defense of the Motherland is a good deed.

[Prisoner]

They do not want to suffer, let them sit at home and not be crowded at our borders.

[loki565]

This is for reinsurance, and as long as they get together, until everyone sets it up, it’s good if they start at 10.00:XNUMX.

[smart ass]

Yes bullshit, women still give birth

[Well done]

Even so, why not experience it in another, deserted place? Why bother like that? To inform the Americans? It looks like a fake.

[Avior]

http://www.severodvinsk.info/pr/20538/
the whole Internet messed up, the article has nothing to do with it

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Welldone

Even so, why not experience it in another, deserted place? Why bother like that? To inform the Americans? It looks like a fake.

Because in another uninhabited place it is not necessary, for research, infrastructure

[Well done]

Can you imagine how many satellites "partners" are now following the "tests"! That's not how things are done. Most likely this is a deceiving maneuver. And Petrel will not be tested here, and perhaps not now.

[Charik]

but you can experience the satellite dazzler

[Gennady Fomkin]

Satellite khranut

[svp67]

Quote: Welldone

Do Americans inform?

Well, actually, we have signed the corresponding agreements on NOTIFICATION of each of the parties for conducting missile tests ...

[Rzzz]

Quote: Welldone

Americans inform

Something I'm sure that they have already been informed much in advance, and from other sources.

[Alex777]

Even so, why not experience it in a different, uninhabited place?

Everything is simple. Test where there is a training ground.
As far as I know, there is no other.

[Proton]

There’s no way the American press will survive for the village that the article released protests

[Roman123567]

And where are they worried about in the article ?? Something did not notice ..

[snake]

Quote: Proton

Just so the American press will survive for the village no forces

Well, who will worry about the Russian village? Russian government or what?

[Pilot]

Therefore, they were warned that from six in the morning of July 7 to six in the evening of July 8, it is better to leave this village.

Residents more than a day (at best) to sit out in the woods, in the open air, with children and the elderly? The authorities with the military are simply obliged to throw out at least a tent camp, providing people with food and honey. with help.

Now for the period of work at the training ground, residents of the village are offered to leave their homes and leave the village on free buses. At the moment, nothing is known about the creation of temporary accommodation centers or compensation for inconvenience.

[venik]

Quote: Pilot

Residents more than a day (at best) sit out in the woods, in the open air, with children and the elderly?

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And WHO told you "in the forest, in the open air and without food ??? After all, you yourself are quoting:" ...On the establishment of temporary accommodation points or compensation for inconvenience at the moment nothing is known.... ".
What do you think: "nothing is known" means - "there is nothing"????

[Charik]

fu mice for the correct opinion of minuses threw

[Doccor18]

Villagers in Russia will end up in a danger zone due to tests of the Burevestnik rocket

It is interesting that the Americans are worried about Russian villagers.
And you need to test potentially dangerous types of weapons at special training grounds, away from populated points. The territory of our country allows this. Although it’s certainly cheaper and easier to allocate buses ..

[voyaka uh]

There they do not conduct a new test, but extract from the bottom the remains of the Petrel from the last time. And they are radioactive. This time they decided not to risk their lives.
Very correct.

[K-612-O]

Did the Navy command tell you this?

[yfast]

They will be taken from the bottom of the sea, and the village will be evacuated. The process is of unknown duration, and you can’t tell the inhabitants to continue living in exile indefinitely.

[Cowbra]

Quote: voyaka uh

And they are radioactive.

And you are on fire today. Tell us how a radioactive "tail" can physically fly out in order to get it at least 50 km away, if there are a maximum of tens of grams of radioactive components there?
Do you now also have the State Department writes manuals? Usually they were capable of such nonsense. Even if they began to take fuel out of Chernobyl, they would have to be evacuated only along the road

[voyaka uh]

Last summer, they died in an explosion during the dismantling of the remains and, then, from the acute radiation sickness, the entire team that developed the Petrel. Eight people. Therefore, measures are not out of place.

[Cowbra]

I do not like it when they openly lie. There was even a video - an explosion at the stand in preparation for testing, fuel exploded, ordinary, rocket - it blew everyone off the platform.
No, he’s not in shock, he’s at work ...

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: Cowbra

I do not like it when they openly lie. There was even a video - an explosion at the stand in preparation for testing, fuel exploded, ordinary, rocket - it blew everyone off the platform.
No, he’s not in shock, he’s at work ...

Well, you can’t be so naive, read not only official sources in which truths are less than lies.

https://www.svoboda.org/a/30144456.html

The topic of the thermal explosion of the isotope engine of the "stormworm" during its ascent (the rocket itself sank after an unsuccessful launch in winter) has been analyzed in detail. based on satellite images on the day of the explosion.

Independent expert on nuclear technologies Valentin Gibalov noted in a comment to Radio Liberty that the composition of the radionuclides detected in air samples by Roshydromet is similar to the consequences of an outbreak of a spontaneous chain reaction in a reactor, at the same time the expert emphasizes that the composition of the "fragments" in this case is not complete. Among experts, there is still no single version of how exactly such a chain reaction could arise. The main hypothesis: in the process of lifting the nuclear device, a special protective rod fell out of the reactor, restraining the launch of the reactor until the end of the first stage.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: Cowbra

There was even a video - an explosion at the stand in preparation for testing, fuel exploded, ordinary, rocket - it blew everyone off the platform.

Doesn't suit the radio "svobodovtsy"

there are other sources:

Alexander CHERNYSHEV, Deputy Scientific Director, RFNC-VNIIEF, Corresponding Member of RAS:

- Of course, this is a tragedy that claimed the lives of our testers, our friends. It is especially hard to lose close friends. And in our proving brotherhood - this is what we call it - we lost our comrades. It is fundamentally important to note here that from the very first days of the existence of our nuclear center, KB-11 then, a full cycle of work was organized here: from theory to testing. Tests were necessary and there is a necessary element in the creation of new technology. I must say that the security issue, which was laid by Julius Borisovich Khariton, the founder of our nuclear center, who was responsible for nuclear weapons for 46 years, in general, there was a certain culture, not just a school, in it. Moreover, in any document of the product undergoing testing, there is a section “Safety and emergency scenario”. And we work here quite seriously, large groups of people, specialists. And now I have to say that what happened is, of course, in general, an unpredictable scenario was realized. I must say that Severodvinsk is not so far there. Our people are there, our people are taking measurements there as well. Our team was on duty last night in Sevmash, and, in general, they established by direct measurements, by comparing these measurements, that yes, the radiation background increase was two times and lasted no more than an hour. Our experts and no external experts have registered any residual radioactive contamination.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: Cowbra

There was even a video - an explosion at the stand in preparation for testing, fuel exploded, ordinary, rocket - it blew everyone off the platform.

Vyacheslav SOLOVIEV, research supervisor of the RFNC-VNIIEF:

- I would like to say that we have a scientific work program in the nuclear center, within the framework of this program research and development are carried out both of a fundamental nature and in the interests of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Well, today we have a number of projects underway in the interests of civilian industries. One of the directions is the creation of energy sources (thermal and electric) using radioactive materials, including fissile materials, radioisotope materials. The center has been engaged in such developments for a very long time - since 1952. This area of ​​work is also relevant, important and necessary. These sources are necessary today for space, and for remote areas of the Arctic regions, where the maintenance of these sources is not required. Therefore, these developments are actually being carried out in many countries. Last year, the Americans under the Kilopower program tested a small-sized reactor with a capacity of only a few kilowatts. Well, our center continues to work in these areas.

The tragedy, the fateful combination of circumstances that happened during our trials, we are now trying to figure this out, working closely with the state commission, analyzing the whole chain of events in order to assess the scale and understand its causes, and exclude the possibility of such accidents in the future . This is a key task that our specialists are facing today. I think we can handle it.

[Cowbra]

Songs from Radio Liberty, and exceeding FOR AN HOUR WITHOUT RESIDUAL TRACKS - this is not an engine at all, but a sensor then !!! In addition to Radio Shame, no one stuttered about the "isotope engines", which allegedly "jerked" - they really cannot jerk, there would have been a SCR. But these "farewell songs of the political pygmies of Pendostan" - leave to the echo warriors. PiSi: this is the name of Pelevin's book

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: Cowbra

In addition to Radio Shame, no one stuttered about the "isotope engines", which allegedly "jerked" - they really cannot jerk, there would have been a SCR.

For those who were taught to read, but did not learn to read:
Alexander CHERNYSHEV, Deputy Scientific Director, RFNC-VNIIEF, Corresponding Member of RAS:

I must say that Severodvinsk is not so far there. Our people are there, our people are taking measurements there as well. Our team was on duty last night in Sevmash, and, in general, they established by direct measurements, by comparing these measurements, that yes, the radiation background increase was two times and lasted no more than an hour. Our experts and no external experts have registered any residual radioactive contamination.

Vyacheslav SOLOVIEV, research supervisor of the RFNC-VNIIEF:

One of the directions is the creation of energy sources (thermal and electric) using radioactive materials, including fissile materials, radioisotope materials.

The tragedy, the fateful combination of circumstances that happened during our trials, we are now trying to figure this out, working closely with the state commission, analyzing the whole chain of events in order to assess the scale and understand its causes, and exclude the possibility of such accidents in the future .

[K-612-O]

So these are not reactors !!! They themselves read that copy-paste?

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: K-612-O

So these are not reactors !!! They themselves read that copy-paste?

I then realized, especially for those who have no idea what a ramjet engine on isotopic heat source
Start with the basics - at least with the Vought SLAM project, the Tory II-C nuclear ramjet engine, etc.

Approximate the miniaturization of cruise missiles and, accordingly, the miniaturization of ramjet YaPRRD.
Work schemes have long been developed.

The process of implementing such schemes, at one time was interrupted precisely because of the inability to safely conduct flight tests, instability of the air environment, humidity, which leads to instability of temperatures (overheating) of the working zone of the reactor.
The fact that it works perfectly in the conditions of ground tests with more or less stable temperature and humidity, in conditions of a variable air environment leads to instability of the reactor core for direct-flow nuclear-powered rocket engines and the second circuit with a turbine looks more stable.

The topic of selling a nuclear-powered bomber was abandoned for the same reason - it’s unpleasant when a nuclear reactor flies overhead, which sooner or later will fall somewhere during the tests ...

Well, of course, remember the RD-0410 Soviet nuclear rocket engine was developed at the Himavtomatika design bureau (GRAU index - 11B91).

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: voyaka uh

Last summer, they died in an explosion during the dismantling of the remains and, then, from the acute radiation sickness, the entire team that developed the Petrel. Eight people.

"The whole team" never goes to field trials.
To do this, a test team is appointed consisting of several responsible engineers (different from each department) and a test manager from the developer.

These are basic safety requirements.

died:
Alexey Vyushin, developed special hardware and software, born in 1976,
Evgeny Korataev, leading electronic engineer of the department, born in 1968,
Vyacheslav Lipshev, Head of the Scientific Testing Group, born in 1979,
Sergey Pichugin, engineer for testing the first category, born in 1973,
Vladislav Yanovsky, Deputy Head of the Research and Testing Department, b. 1948
https://vdvsn.ru/articles/society/nazvany-imena-pogibshikh-sotrudnikov-rosatoma/?sphrase_id=1701807

[Vadim237]

The Burevestnik has an open circuit YaRVD, and you are talking about a betta voltatic energy source - a nuclear battery most likely for ICBMs, in Severodvinsk there is just a stand for their tests, someone previously spoke about a missile launched and stored at the bottom in a special container.

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: voyaka uh

from acute radiation sickness, the entire team that developed the Petrel. Eight people.

At least 7 people died during the accident. These are five representatives of Rosatom (VNIIEF) - Alexei Vyushin, Evgeny Korataev, Vyacheslav Lipshev, Sergei Pichugin and Vladislav Yanovsky, and two more servicemen, whose deaths were reported by Interfax with reference to the RF Ministry of Defense. Three more affected nuclear scientists are gradually recovering: Dmitry Abanin, Sergei Grishin and Alexander Manyukhin. Of the 6 people named by Baza among the victims, three apparently do not belong to VNIIEF employees: Igor Andreevich Berezin, Sergei Sergeevich Plaksin, Alexei Alekseevich Perepelkin. It is possible that two of them are military personnel killed in the explosion, and one more is a wounded and highly irradiated diver. It is reported by Rambler.

https://news.rambler.ru/weapon/42735010/?utm_content=news_media&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink

[K-612-O]

Oh e, base and rambler !!! What trash to look for. And what is the high dose?

[K-612-O]

Are you working in Sarov? And what does the petrel have to do with it? You don’t even know these people, and all the more what they did, don’t talk nonsense. And nobody died of radiation sickness !!! The level of pollution was only an order of magnitude greater than the background. You in the summer in the sun catch more dose.

[Vadim237]

The petrel is obviously not a missile for the Navy; therefore, its tests in Nenoks are doubtful, as is the accident associated with this missile.

[Cowbra]

The United States in such cases is generally resettled - without any compensation. See Bikini Atoll

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: Cowbra

The United States in such cases generally resettled

Papuans are being resettled
They take care of their territories.
Highly radioactive waste was poured into the river for years - 22000 people lived downstream of the Techa River.

[Quadro]

Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich

Quote: Cowbra

The United States in such cases generally resettled

Papuans are being resettled
They take care of their territories.
Highly radioactive waste was poured into the river for years - 22000 people lived downstream of the Techa River.

That is, you propose to spit on the whole world? And kill outsiders? Otherwise they are Papuans, we need to take care of ourselves. I am amused by Natsiks like you, who always have the "but for their own" argument. That is, for you, arrogance and bluntness are authority. And I am still silent that after their tests they raised the WORLD radiation background.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich

Papuans are being resettled
Take care of your territories

apparently because of their special love for their territories and US citizens, they produce shale gas by hydraulic fracturing on agricultural lands, and they also protect their military by forcing them to use munitions with depleted uranium, forcing them to carry around without any protection and in the whole Iraqi company
"After the war, several thousand US and British soldiers were diagnosed with various diseases associated with impaired liver and kidney function, low blood pressure. Retired US Army Colonel Douglas Rocke, a professor of environmental science at Jacksonville University, discovered that uranium can cause lymphoma. mental disorders, cause congenital deformities in future generations. "

[Comrade Michael]

Not my village. Let it fly. Tolerate residents in the name of defense. In general, everything that is far from us can be easily clogged ...

[Old26]

Quote: Welldone

Can you imagine how many satellites "partners" are now following the "tests"! That's not how things are done. Most likely this is a deceiving maneuver. And Petrel will not be tested here, and perhaps not now.

How are these things done? Or do you think that our people do not know when and which satellites have "windows"? Therefore, such a time frame. From 6.00 July 7 to 18 July 8

[Avior]

missile launches actually have geostationary

[tralflot1832]

Distraction operation. Collected all satellites over Nenoksa we will bullet !? Oh well.

[Tests]

"Now, during the work on the landfill, residents of the settlement are offered to leave their homes and go outside the village on free buses. Nothing is known about the creation of temporary accommodation centers or compensation for the inconvenience."
As you read this, questions arise ... The Nyonoksa landfill has been operating 1954/1956 since 402, when, after Stalin's death, they decided not to build a new shipyard in Nyonoks. And the first echelon from the range from near Feodosia was sent to Molotovsk to create a new missile range of the USSR Navy. In 3, military builders replaced the Yagrinlaga z / c. Instead of the Molotovsk railway, there is the Marya River, with wooden bridges across rivers and streams, which the prisoners built for the needs of the construction of Molotovsk (the future Severodvinsk) and plant No. 90 (the future SEVMASH), the military, for the needs of the Polygon, built a normal railway track, with railway bridges over rivers and streams, from Severodvinsk-2019 station to Nyonoksa station. During the Soviet era, the evacuation of residents of Nyonoksa and residents of the settlement of Sopka testers was always carried out by train from Nyonoksa station to Uyma station. There was a station building with a warm waiting room, a telephone, hot tea and coffee, and a toilet. It was in the XNUMXs of the last century that the SF missile depot was closed and the first railway was dismantled. way from the station Uyma. Then the Severodvinsk KSCM and the Arkhangelsk House-Building Plant went bankrupt. Solza's unique fine sand quarry was no longer needed - the second railway was dismantled. way from the station Uyma. Then Russian Railways - the market put everything in its place, the Uyma station was abolished. The building of the station was destroyed, it is good that they left the platform for summer residents of SNT "Sandy" and "Green Bor" ... You can't leave Nyonoksa by buses anywhere - there is no road ... And rockets, during tests, both MB and KR fell in swamp, and in the sea both in the USSR and in the Russian Federation. I don't know anything about the fall of the air defense system during the tests in Nyonoks ... The author did not subscribe to the information, it seems that it was Valery Leonidovich Mashenkov who did not tell him: "About the creation of temporary accommodation points ..." Was it supposed to? ... this year, in the comments, I already wrote that military divers worked all June near Nyonoksa, different "dirty things" came there, different ships and ships of the White Sea naval base and the training ground were there. Helicopters there both flew and fly, the trains of Russian Railways and the military both went and go, the usual daily round-the-clock work of the Polygon. It was not for nothing that it was called the Central Missile Marine Range of the USSR Navy and was awarded the Order of Lenin ... The tragedy of August XNUMX at the Range in Nyonoksa is the largest, but not the first. Let's hope that both military and civilian specialists will remember the experience of the USSR - the tests will be regular and successful.

[Fan]

Business Insider: Villagers in Russia end up in danger zone due to test of Petrel rocket

Fakes !!!! Well, who can write this in the administration?
Well, enough to make people laugh .. Hacked a site they wrote and distributed ..
It was already like that, about an incomprehensible explosion and about the dead, radioactivity ..
What little territory do we have for such secret trials?

[tralflot1832]

So in between, the village of Nenoksa under Stalin I.V. gave the Murmansk Trawl Fleet two famous captains of fishing.

[L-39NG]

Since 1917, the people will "tolerate". Be patient, guys, you sleep better this way, or maybe sleep better.