The T-14 Armata tank was tested in an “unmanned” version

Ongoing Tests Reported tank T-14 Armata. In particular, one of the stages of testing a new generation tank is associated with the actions of a combat vehicle in a crewless version.

On the development of an action mode without a crew told RIA News an unnamed source in the military-industrial complex.

It should be noted that earlier it was reported about the universality of the latest platform in the sense that you can use this platform in its fully robotic version. At the same time, we are talking about a robotic version of a new generation tank over the past 3-4 years. And only now information about the tests of the tank in the "unmanned" version began to be confirmed.

In 2018, a contract was signed between the Russian Ministry of Defense and the manufacturer of equipment on the Armata platform (which is Uralvagonzavod) to supply 132 units of this kind of weapons to the troops. In addition to the T-14 Armata tanks, we are also talking about the T-15 BMP. The contract must be implemented before the beginning of 2022.

Earlier reports came from India about the high interest of Indian partners in the T-14 Armata tanks, with the acquisition of which India "could gain an advantage in armored vehicles over China." This is how the situation is described in the Indian media.

Comments

[cokol-xnumx]

probably, they don’t deliver armature to the troops right now, as the transitional option 100 units in the army and immediately go in unmanned variants, by the way, they say about the Su-57 fighters too, mass deliveries will go without pilots, cheers comrades, glory to our weapons developers

[1976AG]

First you need to complete the tests in the classic version. But they don’t go massively, because not all equipment is brought to mind.

[mdsr]

Quote: 1976AG

But they don’t go massively, because not all equipment is brought to mind.

That is how it is.

Quote: 1976AG

First you need to complete the tests in the classic version.

I see no reason to make an unmanned tank from today's Armata. This is VERY not rational. Unmanned tanks should be significantly cheaper than Almaty, massive. It is most rational to make a small robotic tank or, at the initial stage, to re-equip ordinary T-72s, which are still many in storage. Armata should become a command vehicle, which, being behind, will control a group of unmanned tanks.

[Shurik70]

So all the same, remote control, or robotic?
The difference is significant.
A robotic can start shooting himself, a person will only indicate what needs to be chosen as a target

[1976AG]

Significantly cheaper it will be cans.

[NEXUS]

Quote: mdsr

It’s most rational to make a small robotic tank or, at the initial stage, to convert conventional T-72s,

Why reinvent the wheel if there is Uranus-9, Marker, etc.? T-72 in an unmanned version, of course, the idea is interesting, but ... here the question is, at what distance from the tank the operator can work. And this question is relevant, since tanks are fighting on the front line itself.

[Grazdanin]

Quote: NEXUS

how far from the tank can the operator work

In an open area 3-4 kilometers, in a city up to a kilometer

[mdsr]

Quote: NEXUS

Why reinvent the wheel if there is Uranus-9, Marker, etc.?

Uranium-9 was tested in real combat operations in Syria. In particular, during the assault of Aleppo (Aleppo) and showed himself not from the best side. In particular, unsatisfactory are recognized: unsatisfactory driving performance, the need for the operator to constantly be at a small distance from him, at risk of being destroyed, due to the short range of the remote control system. The armament of the tank, the systems for their stabilization during movement, and the target detection system are also recognized as insufficient. About this a few years ago there was an article on VO. MO according to the results of these tests refused to take them into service.

Quote: NEXUS

T-72 in an unmanned version, of course, an interesting thought

This is the most rational version of an unmanned tank at the moment. The main point, it must be robotic, i.e. the operator does not have to manage it all the time, but only has to give commands to advance to the desired area, to destroy targets, etc. All other operations, such as moving, finding targets, etc. must be performed automatically under the control of artificial intelligence or, before its invention, are written into the algorithms of the control program. But over time, the load in the process of developing artificial intelligence, the load on the operator in managing a group of tanks must inevitably decrease

Quote: NEXUS

but ... here the question is, at what distance from the tank can the operator work. And this question is relevant, since tanks are fighting on the front line itself.

Operators can be in armored Armata tanks in battle formations or at a short distance from them. 1 operator must control several T-72s.

[Grits]

Quote: 1976AG

But they don’t go massively, because not all equipment is brought to mind.

Because "a penny of nem"

[1976AG]

There are just pennies; there is no finished product.

[MMX]

Quote: 1976AG

There are just pennies; there is no finished product.

Everything is correct. And so on almost all the position of weapons. The case when money is "like a fool's makhorka", but the industry is not able to master it.

[1976AG]

You probably don’t know, it was recently announced that we finally developed a domestic thermal imager for the T-14, instead of it seems French. Just like they brought to mind diesel. Prior to that, mass deliveries were irrational. If everything is as stated, then soon we can expect orders for our aircraft.

[MMX]

Quote: 1976AG

You probably don’t know, it was recently announced that we finally developed a domestic thermal imager for the T-14, instead of it seems French. Just like they brought to mind diesel. Prior to that, mass deliveries were irrational. If everything is as stated, then soon we can expect orders for our aircraft.

Fine. The point is small - to establish mass production

[Grits]

Quote: MMX

The case when money is "like a fool's makhorka", but the industry is not able to master it.

I meant that the lack of funds is just an excuse. Industry will not say that they lack personnel, modern equipment and brains.

[L-39NG]

After the first hit, even the "blank", into the tower, forget about the "intelligence" of the equipment.

[1976AG]

Quote: cokol-161

probably, they don’t deliver armature to the troops right now, as the transitional option 100 units in the army and immediately go in unmanned variants, by the way, they say about the Su-57 fighters too, mass deliveries will go without pilots, cheers comrades, glory to our weapons developers

Pilots are not included in the Su-57 package. Listen less to your grandmothers at the entrance, get used to thinking with your own head.

[bar]

By the way, the Su-57 is also being talked about about fighters. Also, mass deliveries will go without pilots.

Well, yes, they will be staffed with pilots already in the field. As for the unmanned options, there is a cheaper and more "invisible" hunter.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: mdsr

Armata should become a command vehicle, which, being behind, will control a group of unmanned tanks.

For the sake of this, it would be possible to cut down an ordinary KShMku, but Armata is different. This is a new generation of tanks, the very tip of a spear.

[NIKN]

In addition to the T-14 Armata tanks, we are also talking about the BMP T-15

A BMP unmanned, with unmanned infantrymen will ride?

[Katanikotael]

there is a lot of space in it, you can shove remote control equipment or five "freeloaders"

[engineer74]

Quote: NIKNN

A BMP unmanned, with unmanned infantrymen will ride?

Somewhere, in the bins of the Motherland, a robot T-800 "FEDOR" is gathering dust ...

[NIKN]

Quote: engineer74

Somewhere, in the bins of the Motherland, the T-800 "FEDOR" robot is gathering dust ...

Well, it’s already pleasing, there’s a beginning, we’ll staff the crew if you wish.

[NEXUS]

Quote: cokol-161

100 units in the army and immediately in unmanned delivery options will go,

You need to understand that this is not a completely unmanned platform, because it is controlled from outside. That is, the pilot is nominally there. If we talk about a platform that will absolutely make decisions, respond to commands and be a full-fledged combat unit, then this is still a long way off.
What doesn’t enter the army .... The T-14 passed almost all the tests, and it was cured of childhood diseases, according to the developer. Just a platform, given its price, we can’t afford to buy in bulk. But ... if the Indians nevertheless sign a contract for 1770 T-14s, then the internal price will become very acceptable for our MO for purchase for our army.

[Kapkan]

It’s nice to know that the entire T-14 artificial intelligence system is being made here in Chelyabinsk.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Kapkan

It’s nice to know that the entire T-14 artificial intelligence system is being made here in Chelyabinsk.

It remains to name the company

[Samara_63]

I like the English Challenger, I think at a distance the most powerful tank. It is not clear why they do not buy it.

[1976AG]

Quote: Samara_63

I like the English Challenger, I think at a distance the most powerful tank. It is not clear why they do not buy it.

Who does not buy it?

[bar]

Who does not buy it?

Apparently the Russian Defense Ministry. Samara wets one peel after another

[1976AG]

It’s hard to understand what he’s thinking about.

[Local from the Volga]

Yes, he does not think about anything! Special in everything on all branches! The keys to the computer are gone!

[tralflot1832]

I like his styling too, they don’t buy it because it’s a serious infection!

[Herman 4223]

The strongest tank at a distance from the battlefield.

[convoy]

And only now information about the tests of the tank in the "unmanned" version began to be confirmed.

So not all possibilities have yet been revealed .. Ah yes, our Kulibins, thanks from the bottom of our hearts.

Quote: Kapkan

It’s nice to know that the entire T-14 artificial intelligence system is being made here in Chelyabinsk.

The main thing is reliable !!! The Urals has always been the ridge of Russia ..
Look in Ukraine, what high-tech enterprises were (they built the whole Union) .. And where is EVERYTHING?

[Tank jacket]

I represent the "tank carousel" performed by unmanned T-14.

[tralflot1832]

A probable opponent? Better let them give up right away!

[Tank jacket]

The probable enemy has long been at war with terrorists, he has no need to surrender. There are so many stupid Arabs around, ready to wage "jihad".
Terrorists are the US drones, which are not a pity. Cannon fodder.

[tralflot1832]

I'm talking about stubborn Poles. The rest of Europe can only be reached in computers, but not in trenches.

[Tank jacket]

The Poles will soon be converted and asked to join the Eurasian Union ...
The rest of Europe will close the markets and have already stopped subsidies ...
The architecture of the world has changed.
Merkel said the other day that Hegemon is everything ...

[tralflot1832]

Well, okay. But with Armata in an unmanned version it will be faster and more reliable .. An analogy of the am. Of the saying about Colt.

[Tank jacket]

Yes, let it be. The conscience of the Russian people does not allow people to be used as terrorist drones and cannon fodder. Therefore, we need robots instead of biorobots.

[Herman 4223]

They did not block subsidies, but reduced them. Last year, after all, there was a scandal, the Poles wanted 90 lords, and only 60 got them.
Honestly, I am shocked by such amounts, because the Russian budget revenues from oil and gas are slightly more than 100 lards, only our population is 3,5 times larger.

[Tank jacket]

I agree, have not yet blocked, but this goes. The collapse of NATO and the European Union is a natural process. Hungarians also got a scandal in Brussels for amending the Constitution that marriage is a union of a man and a woman. And,
The European Commission filed a lawsuit against the Hungarian government. The reason was the migration policy of Budapest, as well as the recently adopted Stop Soros Act, which restricts the activities of an American businessman.
Plus Poland, Czech Republic, Sdovakia against the EU migration policy.

[Herman 4223]

The law against a specific person, it is strong but unlikely to save. Soros is only an instrument of American politics, and the USA has a lot of such instruments, imagine that you have fifty sets of wrenches and you were forbidden to use set number seventeen, for example, you will be saddened of course and take set number twenty, for example, it will not affect work.
Now, if they adopted the US stop law, that would be more interesting.

[DVR]

Soros is only an instrument of American politics

With all due respect, I disagree, "American politics" is a tool of Soros and others like that ...

[Vladimir61]

Interesting news flooded the search engine - "T-14" Armata "against 11 Israeli tanks in Syria ...".
This is the whole characteristic of some Means of Mass Idiocy.

[tralflot1832]

Avia about the source of information?

[Vladimir61]

Quote: tralflot1832

Avia about the source of information?

So in a line and type ...

[PavelM]

The success of the unmanned T-14 is possible
will be confirmed only after his participation in the tank biathlon, at least on a non-competitive basis.

[tralflot1832]

From MO you have to pay for the idea!

[Evil 55]

))) Nobody sees them in the pilot, except for the Guarantor at the parade ..

[VicktorVR]

This is all just research and the accumulation of experience / practice. Why not do it if you can?

And with unmanned ground equipment, little is yet clear. Here is an unmanned tank, why is it needed?
What tasks should solve? Can it be easier to divide these tasks and make a few orders of magnitude lighter and cheaper ground-based drones? Or even part of the tasks completely reset to flying?

Judging by the fact that there is no mass technology, the military has no clear understanding yet ... They are trying on, trying, testing.

[1976AG]

A clear understanding of why this is needed is just the same - to save the lives of fighters. Another thing is that it is very difficult to make fully autonomous, and managed remotely must provide good protection against unauthorized access to control by the enemy. That is the whole problem.

[Herman 4223]

Understanding, then there probably would have been no other way to do it, only this understanding cannot be told to everyone.

[1976AG]

There is nothing secret in understanding. Secrets in technology.

[Herman 4223]

The tactics of application may also be new and it is not necessary for everyone to know it.

[Thunderbringer]

Quote: VicktorVR

Can it be easier to divide these tasks and make a few orders of magnitude lighter and cheaper ground-based drones?

With such a gun, ammunition, armor and power reserve can not be greatly reduced.
On small platforms, the caliber of weapons is small, not for all tasks.

[tralflot1832]

It seems to me alone that the gun does not look very good in Armata. It will be too small, it would be bigger and the styling would be better.

[Andrey Ostroushko]

Armata has the longest gun of all existing tanks in the world. I agree, if you put a caliber of 152 mm on it, it would look more solid. https://vpk.name/news/413468_pokazano_shematicheskoe_sravnenie_tanka_t-14_armata_s_merkavoi_abramsom_i_drugimi_tankami.html

[1976AG]

Quote: tralflot1832

It seems to me alone that the gun does not look very good in Armata. It will be too small, it would be bigger and the styling would be better.

You are not at a design exhibition.

[tralflot1832]

Everything should be harmonious.

[1976AG]

First of all, everything should be practical !!! The rest is how it goes.

[MMX]

Quote: tralflot1832

It seems to me alone that the gun does not look very good in Armata. It will be too small, it would be bigger and the styling would be better.

In my subjective opinion, the T-14 is one of the most disproportionate and, accordingly, ugly tanks in the world (if at all the concept of beauty applies to tanks).

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: cokol-161

probably, they don’t deliver armature to the troops right now, as the transitional option 100 units in the army and immediately go in unmanned variants, by the way, they say about the Su-57 fighters too, mass deliveries will go without pilots, cheers comrades, glory to our weapons developers

To whom was the "glory" technology of the 30s repeated? Teletanks were already in the USSR at that time.

[1976AG]

Anti-aircraft guided missiles appeared in the 50s, does this mean the S-400 repeats the technology of the 50s?

[yfast]

"Indian partners" in dancing.

[Prahlad]

I am sure that he will leave for India earlier than our troops

[Whirlwind]

If there is such an opportunity, you need to try it out and see what happens. That's the test to drive the product in different modes.

[BigBoss]

Armata is not ready and still has not entered the military tests. Another PR action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br1OJ9Irt-U

[makasan34]

Quote: NEXUS

Why reinvent the wheel if there is Uranus-9, Marker, etc.? T-72 in an unmanned version, of course, the idea is interesting, but ... here the question is, at what distance from the tank the operator can work. And this question is relevant, since tanks are fighting on the front line itself.

and the operator walks a couple of meters from the tank with the joystick and controls the tank. As in childhood, there were cars on the control

[Simargl]

The main thing when they decide to test in E-tank mode is to properly organize the switch and not load shells.

PS
Gansovsky Sever Feliksovich, "Polygon", if anything...

[Kapkan]

Quote: Doliva63

It remains to name the company

And what, is it really hiding by someone?

[good]

Quote: Shurik70

So all the same, remote control, or robotic?
The difference is significant.
A robotic can start shooting himself, a person will only indicate what needs to be chosen as a target

Homing, tracking several targets and choosing a target for the T-14 and for the modules have been sawn for a long time and something has been working for a long time, and the unmanned remote mode on the T-14 is even easier to implement, it is enough to create a reliable wireless channel for the tank to communicate with the operator.