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The T-14 Armata tank was tested in an “unmanned” version

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Ongoing Tests Reported tank T-14 Armata. In particular, one of the stages of testing a new generation tank is associated with the actions of a combat vehicle in a crewless version.


On the development of an action mode without a crew told RIA News an unnamed source in the military-industrial complex.

It should be noted that earlier it was reported about the universality of the latest platform in the sense that you can use this platform in its fully robotic version. At the same time, we are talking about a robotic version of a new generation tank over the past 3-4 years. And only now information about the tests of the tank in the "unmanned" version began to be confirmed.

In 2018, a contract was signed between the Russian Ministry of Defense and the manufacturer of equipment on the Armata platform (which is Uralvagonzavod) to supply 132 units of this kind of weapons to the troops. In addition to the T-14 Armata tanks, we are also talking about the T-15 BMP. The contract must be implemented before the beginning of 2022.

Earlier reports came from India about the high interest of Indian partners in the T-14 Armata tanks, with the acquisition of which India "could gain an advantage in armored vehicles over China." This is how the situation is described in the Indian media.
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  1. cokol-xnumx
    cokol-xnumx 4 July 2020 06: 28 New
    -17
    probably, they don’t deliver armature to the troops right now, as the transitional option 100 units in the army and immediately go in unmanned variants, by the way, they say about the Su-57 fighters too, mass deliveries will go without pilots, cheers comrades, glory to our weapons developers
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 4 July 2020 06: 37 New
      +4
      First you need to complete the tests in the classic version. But they don’t go massively, because not all equipment is brought to mind.
      1. mdsr
        mdsr 4 July 2020 06: 54 New
        12
        Quote: 1976AG
        But they don’t go massively, because not all equipment is brought to mind.

        That is how it is.
        Quote: 1976AG
        First you need to complete the tests in the classic version.

        I see no reason to make an unmanned tank from today's Armata. This is VERY not rational. Unmanned tanks should be significantly cheaper than Almaty, massive. It is most rational to make a small robotic tank or, at the initial stage, to re-equip ordinary T-72s, which are still many in storage. Armata should become a command vehicle, which, being behind, will control a group of unmanned tanks.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 4 July 2020 09: 43 New
          +4
          So all the same, remote control, or robotic?
          The difference is significant.
          A robotic can start shooting himself, a person will only indicate what needs to be chosen as a target
        2. 1976AG
          1976AG 4 July 2020 10: 34 New
          +1
          Significantly cheaper it will be cans.
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 4 July 2020 11: 40 New
          0
          Quote: mdsr
          It’s most rational to make a small robotic tank or, at the initial stage, to convert conventional T-72s,

          Why reinvent the wheel if there is Uranus-9, Marker, etc.? T-72 in an unmanned version, of course, the idea is interesting, but ... here the question is, at what distance from the tank the operator can work. And this question is relevant, since tanks are fighting on the front line itself.
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 4 July 2020 13: 46 New
            -1
            Quote: NEXUS
            how far from the tank can the operator work

            In an open area 3-4 kilometers, in a city up to a kilometer
          2. mdsr
            mdsr 4 July 2020 19: 29 New
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            Quote: NEXUS
            Why reinvent the wheel if there is Uranus-9, Marker, etc.?

            Uranium-9 was tested in real combat operations in Syria. In particular, during the assault of Aleppo (Aleppo) and showed himself not from the best side. In particular, unsatisfactory are recognized: unsatisfactory driving performance, the need for the operator to constantly be at a small distance from him, at risk of being destroyed, due to the short range of the remote control system. The armament of the tank, the systems for their stabilization during movement, and the target detection system are also recognized as insufficient. About this a few years ago there was an article on VO. MO according to the results of these tests refused to take them into service.
            Quote: NEXUS
            T-72 in an unmanned version, of course, an interesting thought

            This is the most rational version of an unmanned tank at the moment. The main point, it must be robotic, i.e. the operator does not have to manage it all the time, but only has to give commands to advance to the desired area, to destroy targets, etc. All other operations, such as moving, finding targets, etc. must be performed automatically under the control of artificial intelligence or, before its invention, are written into the algorithms of the control program. But over time, the load in the process of developing artificial intelligence, the load on the operator in managing a group of tanks must inevitably decrease
            Quote: NEXUS
            but ... here the question is, at what distance from the tank can the operator work. And this question is relevant, since tanks are fighting on the front line itself.
            Operators can be in armored Armata tanks in battle formations or at a short distance from them. 1 operator must control several T-72s.
      2. Grits
        Grits 4 July 2020 10: 30 New
        -4
        Quote: 1976AG
        But they don’t go massively, because not all equipment is brought to mind.

        Because "penny nem"
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 4 July 2020 10: 35 New
          +2
          There are just pennies; there is no finished product.
          1. MMX
            MMX 4 July 2020 16: 15 New
            -1
            Quote: 1976AG
            There are just pennies; there is no finished product.


            All right. And so in almost all positions of weapons. This is the case when money is "like a fool of a shag", but the industry is not able to master it.
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 4 July 2020 16: 19 New
              0
              You probably don’t know, it was recently announced that we finally developed a domestic thermal imager for the T-14, instead of it seems French. Just like they brought to mind diesel. Prior to that, mass deliveries were irrational. If everything is as stated, then soon we can expect orders for our aircraft.
              1. MMX
                MMX 4 July 2020 16: 30 New
                -1
                Quote: 1976AG
                You probably don’t know, it was recently announced that we finally developed a domestic thermal imager for the T-14, instead of it seems French. Just like they brought to mind diesel. Prior to that, mass deliveries were irrational. If everything is as stated, then soon we can expect orders for our aircraft.

                Fine. The point is small - to establish mass production good
            2. Grits
              Grits 5 July 2020 01: 59 New
              +1
              Quote: MMX
              This is the case when money is "like a fool of a shag", but the industry is not able to master it.

              I meant that the lack of funds is just an excuse. Industry will not say that they lack personnel, modern equipment and brains.
      3. L-39NG
        L-39NG 8 July 2020 21: 17 New
        0
        After the first hit, even the "blanks" in the tower, forget about the "mind" of the equipment.
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 4 July 2020 06: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: cokol-161
      probably, they don’t deliver armature to the troops right now, as the transitional option 100 units in the army and immediately go in unmanned variants, by the way, they say about the Su-57 fighters too, mass deliveries will go without pilots, cheers comrades, glory to our weapons developers


      Pilots are not included in the Su-57 package. Listen less to your grandmothers at the entrance, get used to thinking with your own head.
    3. bar
      bar 4 July 2020 07: 30 New
      +2
      By the way, the Su-57 is also being talked about about fighters. Also, mass deliveries will go without pilots.

      Well, yes, they will be equipped with pilots already on the ground. As for unmanned options, that is, a cheaper and more "invisible" hunter.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 4 July 2020 08: 46 New
        0
        Quote: mdsr
        Armata should become a command vehicle, which, being behind, will control a group of unmanned tanks.

        For the sake of this, it would be possible to cut down an ordinary KShMku, but Armata is different. This is a new generation of tanks, the very tip of a spear.
      2. NIKN
        NIKN 4 July 2020 10: 36 New
        +2
        In addition to the T-14 Armata tanks, we are also talking about the BMP T-15

        A BMP unmanned, with unmanned infantrymen will ride?
        1. Katanikotael
          Katanikotael 4 July 2020 14: 31 New
          -1
          there is a lot of space in it, you can push the remote control equipment or five "parasites"
        2. engineer74
          engineer74 4 July 2020 16: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: NIKNN

          A BMP unmanned, with unmanned infantrymen will ride?

          Somewhere, in the bins of the Motherland, a robot T-800 "FEDOR" is gathering dust ... wink
          1. NIKN
            NIKN 4 July 2020 18: 16 New
            +2
            Quote: engineer74
            Somewhere, in the bins of the Motherland, the T-800 FEDOR robot is gathering dust ...

            Well, it’s already pleasing, there’s a beginning, we’ll staff the crew if you wish. wink
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 4 July 2020 11: 37 New
      0
      Quote: cokol-161
      100 units in the army and immediately in unmanned delivery options will go,

      You need to understand that this is not a completely unmanned platform, because it is controlled from outside. That is, the pilot is nominally there. If we talk about a platform that will absolutely make decisions, respond to commands and be a full-fledged combat unit, then this is still a long way off.
      What doesn’t enter the army .... The T-14 passed almost all the tests, and it was cured of childhood diseases, according to the developer. Just a platform, given its price, we can’t afford to buy in bulk. But ... if the Indians nevertheless sign a contract for 1770 T-14s, then the internal price will become very acceptable for our MO for purchase for our army.
  2. Kapkan
    Kapkan 4 July 2020 06: 36 New
    13
    It’s nice to know that the entire T-14 artificial intelligence system is being made here in Chelyabinsk.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 4 July 2020 19: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Kapkan
      It’s nice to know that the entire T-14 artificial intelligence system is being made here in Chelyabinsk.

      It remains to name the company laughing
  3. Samara_63
    Samara_63 4 July 2020 06: 50 New
    -28
    I like the English Challenger, I think at a distance the most powerful tank. It is not clear why they do not buy it.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 4 July 2020 06: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: Samara_63
      I like the English Challenger, I think at a distance the most powerful tank. It is not clear why they do not buy it.

      Who does not buy it?
      1. bar
        bar 4 July 2020 07: 27 New
        16
        Who does not buy it?

        Apparently the Russian Defense Ministry. Samara wets one peel after another
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 4 July 2020 07: 40 New
          +7
          It’s hard to understand what he’s thinking about.
          1. Local from the Volga
            Local from the Volga 4 July 2020 08: 20 New
            11
            Yes, he does not think about anything! Special in everything on all branches! The keys to the computer are gone!
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 4 July 2020 07: 26 New
      +1
      I like his styling too, they don’t buy it because it’s a serious infection!
    3. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 4 July 2020 10: 40 New
      0
      The strongest tank at a distance from the battlefield.
  4. convoy
    convoy 4 July 2020 06: 51 New
    +4
    And only now information about the tests of the tank in the "unmanned" version began to be confirmed.

    So not all possibilities have yet been revealed .. Ah yes, our Kulibins, thanks from the bottom of our hearts.
    Quote: Kapkan
    It’s nice to know that the entire T-14 artificial intelligence system is being made here in Chelyabinsk.

    The main thing is reliable !!! The Urals has always been the ridge of Russia ..
    Look in Ukraine, what high-tech enterprises were (they built the whole Union) .. And where is EVERYTHING?
  5. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 4 July 2020 07: 06 New
    +2
    Imagine a "tank carousel" performed by unmanned T-14.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 4 July 2020 07: 27 New
      +2
      A probable opponent? Better let them give up right away!
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 4 July 2020 07: 35 New
        12
        A likely adversary has long been at war with the hands of terrorists; he has no reason to give up. There are so many dumb-headed Arabs around who are ready to conduct "jihad."
        Terrorists are the US drones, which are not a pity. Cannon fodder.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 4 July 2020 07: 37 New
          +4
          I'm talking about stubborn Poles. The rest of Europe can only be reached in computers, but not in trenches.
          1. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 4 July 2020 07: 40 New
            0
            The Poles will soon be converted and asked to join the Eurasian Union ...
            The rest of Europe will close the markets and have already stopped subsidies ...
            The architecture of the world has changed.
            Merkel said the other day that Hegemon is everything ...
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 4 July 2020 07: 43 New
              +2
              Well, okay. But with Armata in an unmanned version it will be faster and more reliable .. An analogy of the am. Of the saying about Colt.
              1. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 4 July 2020 07: 46 New
                +1
                Yes, let it be. The conscience of the Russian people does not allow people to be used as terrorist drones and cannon fodder. Therefore, we need robots instead of biorobots.
            2. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 4 July 2020 10: 47 New
              +1
              They did not block subsidies, but reduced them. Last year, after all, there was a scandal, the Poles wanted 90 lords, and only 60 got them.
              Honestly, I am shocked by such amounts, because the Russian budget revenues from oil and gas are slightly more than 100 lards, only our population is 3,5 times larger.
              1. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 4 July 2020 10: 51 New
                +2
                I agree, have not yet blocked, but this goes. The collapse of NATO and the European Union is a natural process. Hungarians also got a scandal in Brussels for amending the Constitution that marriage is a union of a man and a woman. And,
                The European Commission filed a lawsuit against the Hungarian government. The reason was the migration policy of Budapest, as well as the recently adopted Stop Soros Act, which restricts the activities of an American businessman.
                Plus Poland, Czech Republic, Sdovakia against the EU migration policy.
                1. Herman 4223
                  Herman 4223 4 July 2020 11: 05 New
                  +2
                  The law against a specific person, it is strong but unlikely to save. Soros is only an instrument of American politics, and the USA has a lot of such instruments, imagine that you have fifty sets of wrenches and you were forbidden to use set number seventeen, for example, you will be saddened of course and take set number twenty, for example, it will not affect work.
                  Now, if they adopted the US stop law, that would be more interesting.
                  1. DVR
                    DVR 6 July 2020 02: 32 New
                    0
                    Soros is only an instrument of American politics

                    With all due respect, I do not agree, "American politics" is an instrument of Soros and others ...
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  7. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 4 July 2020 07: 18 New
    +3
    Interesting news was flooded with a search engine - "T-14" Armata "against 11 Israeli tanks in Syria ...".
    This is the whole characteristic of some Means of Mass Idiocy.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 4 July 2020 07: 45 New
      +1
      Avia about the source of information?
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 4 July 2020 09: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Avia about the source of information?

        So in a line and type ...
  8. PavelM
    PavelM 4 July 2020 07: 19 New
    +2
    The success of the unmanned T-14 is possible
    will be confirmed only after his participation in the tank biathlon, at least on a non-competitive basis.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 4 July 2020 07: 34 New
      +4
      From MO you have to pay for the idea!
  9. Evil 55
    Evil 55 4 July 2020 08: 14 New
    -11
    ))) Nobody sees them in the pilot, except for the Guarantor at the parade ..
  10. VicktorVR
    VicktorVR 4 July 2020 08: 59 New
    0
    This is all just research and the accumulation of experience / practice. Why not do it if you can?

    And with unmanned ground equipment, little is yet clear. Here is an unmanned tank, why is it needed?
    What tasks should solve? Can it be easier to divide these tasks and make a few orders of magnitude lighter and cheaper ground-based drones? Or even part of the tasks completely reset to flying?

    Judging by the fact that there is no mass technology, the military has no clear understanding yet ... They are trying on, trying, testing.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 4 July 2020 10: 32 New
      +1
      A clear understanding of why this is needed is just the same - to save the lives of fighters. Another thing is that it is very difficult to make fully autonomous, and managed remotely must provide good protection against unauthorized access to control by the enemy. That is the whole problem.
    2. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 4 July 2020 10: 52 New
      +2
      Understanding, then there probably would have been no other way to do it, only this understanding cannot be told to everyone.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 4 July 2020 12: 09 New
        +2
        There is nothing secret in understanding. Secrets in technology.
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 4 July 2020 13: 12 New
          +1
          The tactics of application may also be new and it is not necessary for everyone to know it.
    3. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 4 July 2020 11: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: VicktorVR
      Can it be easier to divide these tasks and make a few orders of magnitude lighter and cheaper ground-based drones?

      With such a gun, ammunition, armor and power reserve can not be greatly reduced.
      On small platforms, the caliber of weapons is small, not for all tasks.
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 4 July 2020 09: 45 New
    0
    It seems to me alone that the gun does not look very good in Armata. It will be too small, it would be bigger and the styling would be better.
    1. Andrey Ostroushko
      Andrey Ostroushko 4 July 2020 10: 31 New
      +1
      Armata has the longest gun of all existing tanks in the world. I agree, if you put a caliber of 152 mm on it, it would look more solid. https://vpk.name/news/413468_pokazano_shematicheskoe_sravnenie_tanka_t-14_armata_s_merkavoi_abramsom_i_drugimi_tankami.html
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 4 July 2020 10: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: tralflot1832
      It seems to me alone that the gun does not look very good in Armata. It will be too small, it would be bigger and the styling would be better.

      You are not at a design exhibition.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 4 July 2020 11: 02 New
        +1
        Everything should be harmonious.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 4 July 2020 11: 09 New
          +4
          First of all, everything should be practical !!! The rest is how it goes.
    3. MMX
      MMX 4 July 2020 16: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      It seems to me alone that the gun does not look very good in Armata. It will be too small, it would be bigger and the styling would be better.


      In my subjective opinion, the T-14 is one of the most disproportionate and, accordingly, ugly tanks in the world (if at all the concept of beauty applies to tanks).
  12. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 4 July 2020 10: 21 New
    0
    Quote: cokol-161
    probably, they don’t deliver armature to the troops right now, as the transitional option 100 units in the army and immediately go in unmanned variants, by the way, they say about the Su-57 fighters too, mass deliveries will go without pilots, cheers comrades, glory to our weapons developers

    laughing To whom the "glory" of the technology of the 30s was repeated? Teletanks were already in the USSR at that time.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 4 July 2020 10: 46 New
      +4
      Anti-aircraft guided missiles appeared in the 50s, does this mean the S-400 repeats the technology of the 50s?
  13. yfast
    yfast 4 July 2020 11: 21 New
    0
    "Indian partners" in dance.
  14. Prahlad
    Prahlad 4 July 2020 13: 16 New
    0
    I am sure that he will leave for India earlier than our troops
  15. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 4 July 2020 14: 58 New
    0
    If there is such an opportunity, you need to try it out and see what happens. That's the test to drive the product in different modes.
  16. BigBoss
    BigBoss 4 July 2020 16: 26 New
    -2
    Armata is not ready and still has not entered the military tests. Another PR action.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br1OJ9Irt-U
  17. makasan34
    makasan34 4 July 2020 18: 03 New
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Why reinvent the wheel if there is Uranus-9, Marker, etc.? T-72 in an unmanned version, of course, the idea is interesting, but ... here the question is, at what distance from the tank the operator can work. And this question is relevant, since tanks are fighting on the front line itself.

    and the operator walks a couple of meters from the tank with the joystick and controls the tank. As in childhood, there were cars on the control
  18. Simargl
    Simargl 4 July 2020 22: 15 New
    -1
    The main thing when they decide to test in E-tank mode is to properly organize the switch and not load shells.

    PS
    Gansovsky North Feliksovich, "Polygon", if anything...
  19. Kapkan
    Kapkan 5 July 2020 14: 06 New
    0
    Quote: Doliva63

    It remains to name the company laughing

    And what, is it really hiding by someone?
  20. good
    good 5 July 2020 20: 27 New
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    Quote: Shurik70
    So all the same, remote control, or robotic?
    The difference is significant.
    A robotic can start shooting himself, a person will only indicate what needs to be chosen as a target

    Homing, tracking several targets and choosing a target for the T-14 and for the modules have been sawn for a long time and something has been working for a long time, and the unmanned remote mode on the T-14 is even easier to implement, it is enough to create a reliable wireless channel for the tank to communicate with the operator.