“Sees a thousand goals”: ​​Seoul has completed the development of an airborne radar with AFAR

The South Korean defense industry has completed the development of a radar with active phased array antenna (AFAR), created for the new national fighter KF-X.

Previously it was believed that it [the plane] could not be created on the basis of domestic technologies. Now competency has been confirmed

- writes the publication HeraldCorp.

The radar, designated AESA, is scheduled to be publicly presented on August 12.

The ceremony scheduled for next month is especially significant, as we finally completed the development of the AESA radar (AFAR), which was considered impossible

- said an official representative of the government.

The development of the radar was carried out by the Defense Development Agency and Hanwha Systems as part of the KF-X Korean Fighter program. The need for its development was due to the failure of Lockheed Martin to transfer appropriate technologies to Seoul, although this was promised with the acquisition of the F-35A Lightning II.

As a result, South Korea independently created a radar, and the Israeli company ELTA Systems helped conduct air tests, which started on September 26, 2019. Allegedly, the experienced radar was very positively received by Israeli personnel. Radar tests on the KF-X fighter itself are scheduled to begin in 2021, when the first prototype aircraft will be lifted into the sky.

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[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Previously it was believed that it [the plane] could not be created on the basis of domestic technologies. Now it has been confirmed.

Judging by this quote, it was confirmed that the aircraft could not be created on the basis of domestic technologies.

[Insurgent]

“Sees a thousand goals”: ​​Seoul has completed the development of an airborne radar with AFAR

No, well, I, too, when I look at a large anthill, I also see thousands of swarming and scurrying ants ...
But to keep track, not just for several at the same time, even for one -

What about the Koreans?

[Insurgent]

South Korea independently created a radar, and Israeli company ELTA Systems helped conduct air tests

As a result, AFAR will be installed on the planes of the "probable enemy" ...

What is not the "cooperation" of the "axis" countries, and the enterprises of the countries that submitted to them, during the Second World War, in shock work for the benefit of Hitlerite Germany?

[Zaurbek]

They write that Israel helped.

[Grazdanin]

Israel radar with AFAR appeared 15 years ago

[Zaurbek]

In the USSR and PFAR long ago appeared

[orionvitt]

Quote: Zaurbek

In the USSR and PFAR long ago appeared

Back in the 80s. Koreans have a late ignition.

[Knell wardenheart]

South Korea is ~ the territory of Moscow and the Moscow Region without Deshman oil, woods and nickel with gas, which can be driven over the hill to stupor. So, perhaps, in their case, high technologies really deserve respect.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

South Korea is ~ the territory of Moscow and the Moscow region without Deshman oil, woods and nickel with gas that can be driven over a hill to stupor

You smoked in the morning? Korea, with all its technological power, finally did what it did in the USSR 50 years ago.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Insurgent

No, well, I, too, when I look at a large anthill, I also see thousands of swarming and scurrying ants ...
But to keep track, not just for several at the same time, even for one -
What about the Koreans?

It’s kind of frivolous to compare your beloved with the capabilities of an electronic computer. Given their ability to cooperate with allies and develop, do it yourself, it’s normal for them to do this. I think that worthy of the samples of America and Europe can succeed.

[bayard]

Quote: orionvitt

Korea, with all its technological power, finally did what it did in the USSR 50 years ago.

You do not confuse AFAR and PFAR; over AFAR for the Su-57 they still conjure and there are no bravura comments yet. And the AFAR for the MiG-35 is also only in the layout so far - it’s not worth it on real samples.
So Koreans have something to be proud of.
God willing and we will soon rejoice ...

[Mountain shooter]

People work ... Sweat. Understand where the profits are.

[Courier]

Well done Koreans, retained communism, they did not have their own Khrushchev. So AFAR turned out.
Everything according to the precepts of Kim Il Sung is done.

[NIKN]

Quote: Courier

Everything according to the precepts of Kim Il Sung is done.

Confused a little. This is South Korea. There are other gods.

[Zaurbek]

How will the Russian Federation respond?

[donavi49]

No need, firmly and clearly.

Well, there is an AFAR on the 5th generation, but the characteristics are questionable.
There is a Beetle-AM on the new APMs, but flight tests most likely have not yet begun, only bench tests.

And so, ROFAR is a photon radar by 2050.

[Zaurbek]

..... what will happen in the year 50?

[donavi49]

Photon radar, a new type of radar from which stealth does not help.

[Zaurbek]

50 years will be in 30 years ..... 30 years ago was the USSR.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Zaurbek

50 years will be in 30 years ..... 30 years ago was the USSR.

What does the USSR have to do with this? Do you want to say that by the 50th year Russia may no longer be?
Or are you like Cato the Elder?

[Zaurbek]

In any planning there should be intermediate achievements. Which tell us that work is going on. And the thought develops.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

So what have you to do with your words that "30 years ago there was the USSR"?

[bayard]

Photon radar is still a spherical horse in a vacuum, but we should expect the "Belka" of the Su-57. But so far there is no reliable information, whether it came out. Here they will hand over the first serial customer, maybe we will hear ...

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

And now the Su-57 with which radar is flying, with a prototype?

[bayard]

But who knows? Most likely with the experimental version, or with the radars of the previous generation (on those experimental machines on which the glider and pilot work out).
There was a proposal to offer for export the Su-57E with AL-41F engines and Irbis radar, but then they refused this.

[Hexenmeister]

On the very first production aircraft that crashed, there was a radar with AFAR manufactured at a serial plant.

[bayard]

Well, God forbid, that she stood on the second. And to work normally. Let at least a squadron of serial ones appear so that we can say that we have them. Serial. Then it will be possible to declare nationwide gratitude to "Phazotron".

[Hexenmeister]

"Phazotron" has nothing to do with it!

[bayard]

Isn't he planing the "Belka"?

[Hexenmeister]

The "Phazotron" association has long been gone, and the existing "Phazotron-NIIR" has nothing to do with development, only one of its serial plants is used from old memory.

[eklmn]

For the curious:
July 6th NI article
“Comparing the Stealth of Death - the Russian SU-57 and F-22, who will be destroyed first”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/stealth-death-match-russias-su-190000330.html
After describing the F-22, here's what they write about the SU-57.
“... Much less is known about the Sukhoi Su-57. Despite seven years of test flights, many details about the aircraft remain unknown. All that is known is that Sukhoi struggled to develop the aircraft, especially key components such as the engine. It is planned that the first operational aircraft will be part of the Russian Aerospace Forces in 2019.
.... The Su-57 will be equipped with the N056 Belka radar system and the L402 electronic interference kit. L-range locators will be the primary means of detecting stealth aircraft, while at shorter distances, the 101KS Atoll electro-optical kit, including an infrared search and tracking system, will help the pilot track and hit targets with infrared-guided missiles. ”
In addition, the article compares engines, weapons, glider capabilities and much more.

[businessv]

Quote: bayard

it's still a spherical horse in a vacuum

Spherical, or enchanting? It is important!

[Avior]

And why by 2050?
They promised earlier, in the summer of 2019.

. When will these opportunities be realized in Russia?

KRET conducts this work, is the lead organization under the order of the Advanced Research Foundation (FPI) under the government of the Russian Federation. The project was launched in February 2015, and ends in July 2019. We must present the mock-up demonstrator ROFAR and conduct research on the possibilities of its use on promising media .....
What is the financing of the project?

It goes through different channels - in our direction it is 683,8 million rubles. At the exit, we must present a mockup - demonstrator

[lucul]

And so, ROFAR is a photon radar by 2050.

And if in 5 years it will already appear? ))))

[Cyril G ...]

Serial RLC Barrier at Rattling AFAR

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

How will the Russian Federation respond?

H010 Zhuk-MA - 2005.
H036 Squirrel - 2008 year.

[donavi49]

In 2005 - a technology demonstrator for Hindus, in which millions had to be invested. The Hindus drove the developers and that bug was bent.

The new Beetle - on new MRP. He just now (at the end of 2018) put on the poster. Only he has at least some chances to stop being an exhibition model and become a real radar. However, I did not see any reports of the start of flight tests. Although they will be - for this is an export topic and the UAC needs an AFAR, since all competitors offer this option, only the UAC cannot.

[Zaurbek]

Should have been. And in the yard 2020.

[Charik]

and who is asking?

[Vadim237]

Russia will respond with photon radar.

[Zaurbek]

In 2050, as we found out

[Grazdanin]

Turks in theory can join the KF-X project, instead of F35, with Indonesia they are in the gums, like South Korea.

[Zaurbek]

And the Indians .....

[Grazdanin]

Rather, Pakistan

[Zaurbek]

Pakistan, rather unification with China looms

[Grazdanin]

There is no trust in China. Non-compliance of the declared characteristics and real constant. They are all a little shorter and meters and generations of aircraft

[Zaurbek]

FT17 plan to upgrade using AFAR. They will check live.

[Cyril G ...]

By the way, did you come across a plate with the performance characteristics of their aircraft radar?

[Cyril G ...]

As part of the consortium, it can and will be extended if they do not quarrel ..

[rocket757]

The South Korean defense industry has completed the development of a radar with active phased array antenna (AFAR), created for the new national fighter KF-X.

CLASS of course ... but we have no time to suffer on this subject, we need to restore our electronic industry, scientific and production base! AND TEACH, PREPARE new specialists for the industry and science !!!

[Avior]

With Afar there is a nuance that is rarely written about.
Afar radars come in two types
1. Created on the basis of existing radars - that is, they add an Afar antenna with a control unit to the radar, and the radar itself is minimally modified.
In this case, the task is much simpler, but to fully realize the capabilities of Afar will not work.
2. Specially created radar from Afar. In this case, you can implement many of the features inaccessible radars of the old types, such as LPI mode and so on.
But the technical complexity is much higher and the price is also much higher.
Therefore, you need to know what type of Koreans did

[rocket757]

So, as the version is the "brains" of this radar, they can do advanced ones. A lot depends on them.

[Hexenmeister]

In this case, you can implement many of the features inaccessible radars of the old types, such as LPI mode

In radar, and not only in it, it is customary to divide signals into "simple" and "complex", and the concept of "signal base" is used as a signal characteristic in this vein, for simple ones it is equal to one, for complex more than one, the higher base value, the closer the signal is to noise-like. At least the approximate range of values ​​of the signal base is not known by "alpiai" yet,
it is pointless to judge the level of its noise likelihood, and so far this is only an advertising slogan, and the lower detection range on it, in comparison with some "ordinary" signal, indicates problems with the "energy" of the signal, and this has a lot of negative properties.
In addition, complex signals have long been used in fighter radars, for example, in Zaslon (MiG-31), Meche (Su-27), "experts" can try to name what kind of complex signal, with a base of 13, was used in the radar of one American fighter for a long time before the advent of the Internet and "elpiai", so that "everything new is well forgotten old."

[Grazdanin]

The original article is not found? It’s bad that the link to the original is not attached.

[paco.soto]

The original is here:
https://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2020/07/aesa-radar-prototype-production-for-kf.html?m=1

[Grazdanin]

Thanks for the link!

[paco.soto]

Thank you for your gratitude !, the link to the blog, and the original was on a Korean resource, which ya translated the Google translator into French, it’s more convenient for me, the blogger expanded the information.
Regards to you

[Wolf]

One old joke: German comes to England and was surprised with the grass, it is thick green, healthy, beautiful. He asked the British how they get such good grass? The British answer, it’s easy, you need to fill the grass on a regular basis and cut it and ....... such 300 years! :)
So they will create the UK, or what? The necessary tradition and school. The UK has a strong Promotional, ali is much lower than Japanese or Chinese, and they cannot make a full-fledged 5th generation aircraft. Yisrael was very cunning and they are on the plane of generation 5 a bright year, or they are gaining experience on papaus like the UK and still get money for it. AFAR is not the newest technology, but it’s not easy to make a good AFAR radar even in very developed countries, but the radar is only 1 part of their plane even a thousand. !
But the UK goes the right way, only 300 years needed!

[Grazdanin]

Israeli company ELTA Systems helped conduct air tests

Israel has no problem, not with tradition, not with school. Afar they at least 15 years ago made and put in series, experience in creating avionics about 40 years.

[Wolf]

Citizen don’t have to touch me for the tongue. We will understand the TRUTH AND TRUTH, but you will not like it!
All weapons technology in Israel is simply a THEft! ;) Most of Russia! ;)

[Wolf]

Dasult in France, serves only for the transfer of technology to Israel, and feeds on the budget of France and many such examples!

[borberd]

Dassault in France sold Mirages to Israel. Israel not only advertised these aircraft during the war, but also participated in the refinement of this aircraft. Many countries in the 60s did not want to buy Mirages due to the fact that due to a defect, at certain angles of attack, Mirages fell into an uncontrolled corkscrew. The Israelis solved this problem. And then they bought a lot of planes. But when in 1967 the Arabs put pressure on the frogmen and demanded an embargo on the supply of weapons, Mossad had to buy the drawings of the Mirage and organize production on its territory. There is nothing criminal in this, many countries stole drawings - in 36, the USSR bought the Christy tank on the basis of which it created its own T-34. The GRU was engaged in industrial espionage. The Americans took out von Braun and more. And the USSR took out German defense plants. In short .. everyone was doing it.

[borberd]

I don’t want to touch your tongue, because most of it flies off - lies. Israel at the beginning of its history faced the arms embargo of many countries. Therefore, I decided to invest a lot of money in military technology. Serbs, like you, did not even dream of it. You know how to do only the simplest or what Russia supplies you. Therefore, rocket technology, unmanned aircraft, military electronics in Israel - at the highest level, and their own. Read more and do not touch your language.

[Wolf]

Lies? what lied From the beginning immediately after the Second World War began the smuggling of weapons into Israel, and through Italy and France. ship ship. What Serbia knows how to do since the beginning of 1941 IK 3, one of the very best WWII fighters! Then the Trotskyist Broz, strangled the Serbian military Promislyenost, it did not beat the question what we can do. 1941 and a fighter one of the very best, then Israel was not there! The simplest is good today.

[Wolf]

Yeti Trotsky strangled agriculture in the USSR as an example, by chance, and then the people began to die of hunger!

[Wolf]

On the basis of what did Israel begin to develop the weapons industry and how?

[Wolf]

No need for me to answer, answer yourself. All technologies armed simply by transfer were transferred from the USSR, USA, France, etc. Normally, I do not argue that today Israel can independently make good weapons, but if it could not have unlimited resources (capital) and the roof of the globalists then it would be a miracle.

[Wolf]

IK 3 fighter was better than anybody in France, the USSR, the USA, even the life of the M109 can be, only Spitfaer was better, but he appeared later!

[Wolf]

So we do not need about weapons yet another Getit times!

[Castro Ruiz]

Youth Koreans. spravilis.

[immobile2008]

Quote: Zaurbek

In any planning there should be intermediate achievements. Which tell us that work is going on. And the thought develops.

This is what you say as a manager, not as a sapper.

[immobile2008]

Quote: Wolf

Lies? what lied From the beginning immediately after the Second World War began the smuggling of weapons into Israel, and through Italy and France. ship ship. What Serbia knows how to do since the beginning of 1941 IK 3, one of the very best WWII fighters! Then the Trotskyist Broz, strangled the Serbian military Promislyenost, it did not beat the question what we can do. 1941 and a fighter one of the very best, then Israel was not there! The simplest is good today.

For you

Quote: rocket757

The South Korean defense industry has completed the development of a radar with active phased array antenna (AFAR), created for the new national fighter KF-X.

CLASS of course ... but we have no time to suffer on this subject, we need to restore our electronic industry, scientific and production base! AND TEACH, PREPARE new specialists for the industry and science !!!

Do not restore, but create. The USSR has lagged behind for many decades in this area