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The Malaysian book talks about the possible benefits of the United States from hitting MH17 over the Donbass

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The Malaysian book talks about the possible benefits of the United States from hitting MH17 over the Donbass

A wide discussion began after the news of the release of a book in Malaysia, which is devoted to the events of the attack on the airliner, which was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur in July 2014. In a few days, it will be six years from the very day when the plane was shot down in the sky over the Donbass.


The author of the book, the well-known writer in Malaysia, Mahadzir Ibrahim, gives several versions of what happened in the sky over the southeastern Ukraine engulfed in civil war on July 17, 2014. The author is trying to find the answer to the main question: who could benefit from knocking down a passenger Boeing, which, after entering the airspace of Ukraine, strangely changed course after the dispatchers directive and was directed over the area of ​​the most intense military operations?

One of the versions that Mahajir Ibrahim makes is the version that it could be beneficial to the United States of America. The writer notes that it would be important for the United States to put Russia in a negative light, so that then there is another reason for the introduction of anti-Russian sanctions and their justification.

According to the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, the publication of this book suggests that the Malaysians are trying to form their own opinion about what happened to the MH17. Maria Zakharova noted that this is an important moment against the background of the West's engagement, which manifests itself in this matter.

Recall that in the Netherlands, the trial in case MH17 is ongoing, which does not even consider the hypothetical possibility of Ukraine's guilt. After all, the West has long appointed the guilty, and now is doing everything to at least somehow justify its accusations.
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  1. Karaul73
    Karaul73 3 July 2020 06: 22
    13
    Finally they wrote something sensible. After the plane was shot down, sanctions that were beneficial to the West were strengthened.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 3 July 2020 08: 34
      11
      the publication of this book suggests that the Malaysians seek to form their own opinion about what happened with the board MH17.


      Actually, this alone remains with the Malaysian side in clarifying the truth.
      After all, to the investigation, "Dear Western partners", she was never allowed ...
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 3 July 2020 19: 47
        0
        And why Malaysia was not allowed - the question is very interesting.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 3 July 2020 10: 58
      +4
      Quote: Sentry73
      Finally something healthy wrote

      I don’t understand, did the Malaysians have Estonians in their family? We realized it, and not even six years have passed. . Literate people, five minutes after the plane crashed, knew very well and announced a thousand times that the destruction of a passenger airliner over the Donbass was beneficial only to the United States. Well, and their accomplices in NATO. Moreover, such a case (use passenger aircraft for provocation) is not the first in their practice.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 3 July 2020 19: 48
        0
        It was beneficial at that moment and Kolomoisky.
        I still do not understand why the West took the bank away from him and is firmly opposed to returning it. He was his own. Bourgeois. request
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 3 July 2020 21: 27
          0
          Quote: Alex777
          It was beneficial at that moment and Kolomoisky

          Kolomoisky is not a player in global geostrategic games involving major players. Just a pawn, a petty intriguer of local mischief. The destiny of such people is a sandbox like Ukraine.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 3 July 2020 23: 01
            -1
            Actually, he is a billionaire and president of the European Jewish Union (EJU).
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 4 July 2020 09: 22
              0
              Quote: Alex777
              He’s actually a billionaire and president of the European Jewish Union

              So what? Kiss him in the cup for that? Poroshenko is also a billionaire, and he has more billions, and also a Jew, so what? Big politician? Two boots of a pair, two nonentities, but with billions, except for Ukraine, nothing is decisive anywhere. And in Ukraine, they are sitting on a short leash from the State Department. Billions matter when you are from the old European or American elite, which really decides something in the world. And the "quick-rich" oligarchs are upstarts whom the world elite can easily deprive of billions and that bit of power that they were given in Ukraine. And their power is so-so, and the money is essentially not theirs, they were just given it to "hold", and they know it very well. Therefore, they will do whatever they are told. Or do you think that Kolomoisky, Poroshenko, and other (including Russian) oligarchs, even with their billions, have no owners?
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 4 July 2020 10: 40
                0
                Poroshenko is also a billionaire, and he has more billions, and also a Jew, so what?

                Poroshenko was not a billionaire until he became President. However, this is not important. smile
                Or do you think that Kolomoisky, Poroshenko, and other (including Russian) oligarchs, even with their billions, have no owners?

                Kolomoisky’s not. You probably don’t know anything about him. But this is also not important now. hi
                1. orionvitt
                  orionvitt 4 July 2020 21: 27
                  0
                  Quote: Alex777
                  Kolomoisky - no

                  laughing Sorry, could not resist.
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 4 July 2020 22: 19
                    -1
                    I know him through one handshake, very well.
                    A rare, smart bastard that cannot be underestimated.
                    1. orionvitt
                      orionvitt 4 July 2020 22: 20
                      +1
                      Quote: Alex777
                      A rare, smart bastard that cannot be underestimated.

                      But with this, I agree completely.
                      1. Alex777
                        Alex777 4 July 2020 22: 21
                        0
                        So I just talked about this. yes
    3. iouris
      iouris 3 July 2020 14: 35
      0
      Quote: Sentry73
      sanctions that benefit the West have been strengthened.

      These are not "sanctions", but the exploitation of natural resources and the limitation of the population in the territory (nothing personal).
  2. Pavel73
    Pavel73 3 July 2020 06: 22
    +4
    It would be nice to read.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 3 July 2020 06: 54
      -8
      A miserable parody of a unique original.

    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 3 July 2020 18: 37
      0
      Quote: Pavel73
      It would be nice to read.

      It remains to learn the Malaysian, something business! laughing
  3. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 3 July 2020 06: 24
    +9
    Quote: Sentry73
    Finally they wrote something sensible. After the plane was shot down, sanctions that were beneficial to the West were strengthened.


    Absolutely right. Destroying the ship was beneficial to the United States.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 3 July 2020 06: 46
      +8
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      Absolutely right. Destroying the ship was beneficial to the United States.

      It is quite logical. The US needed new sanctions against Russia, the ambassador "phoned" Ukraine, Ukraine said: "Boo done!" Hence the dispatcher, hence the pilot ... and the mysterious Beech
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 3 July 2020 06: 32
    -21 qualifying.
    Another conspiracy theory. How many of them have already been from all interested and "independent" parties?
    I’m afraid a prosecutor from the Netherlands will not read it and will not introduce it to the case.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 3 July 2020 06: 48
      11
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      I'm afraid the prosecutor from the Netherlands will not read it and will not attach to the case

      Do not be afraid. He certainly won't. And he will bring the process "to the end" ... the verdict is written in advance.
    2. military_cat
      military_cat 3 July 2020 06: 48
      -5
      If attached, then it’s even worse. Satellite images of Bukov in Zaroshchenskoye from the Ministry of Defense were added to the case along with expert opinions that their reliability was not confirmed, and the investigators were not allowed to familiarize themselves with the originals despite the corresponding request.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 3 July 2020 06: 51
        0
        Oh, I beg you! How many of these "pictures" have already been presented? And with the Su 25, and the "witnesses" "personally" observed ...
    3. Avior
      Avior 3 July 2020 09: 32
      +2
      it’s even somehow strange to attach some writer’s book to the case
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 3 July 2020 06: 34
    +9
    Unfortunately, the judges smoke their bamboo, and they pay the whole booth, the guys are stubborn ... they really are not interested, they have their own goal.
    Anyway, such books are useful, there are no questions .... although you need to carefully look at what exactly is written there.
  6. Samara_63
    Samara_63 3 July 2020 06: 39
    -16 qualifying.
    The Dutch then really wanted to drop the landing, they had already withdrawn a battalion of marines from the exercises, a battalion of special forces from the MTR was ready, the battalion of paratroopers was put in a barracks position, like all Apache attack helicopters and F-16 planes flew to Ukrainian airfields
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 3 July 2020 07: 31
      11
      In vain they canceled it. They would row it to the fullest. Americans even sometimes pierce out of the blue. I beg you the Dutch special forces, special forces. I can’t imagine that the Netherlands is landing troops for a military operation in the zone of our interests. Even the Americans don’t climb close to the front line, what if they soprut and will be handed over to Russia? And the Gulag Archipelago (Raging Max 2). Although I didn’t smoke nonsense, I drew everyone’s victory after the Dutch general’s one and wondered why, after successful special operations of the US special forces, the personnel went to another ! This is so that amers would not be taken as an example!
      1. Samara_63
        Samara_63 3 July 2020 07: 36
        -15 qualifying.
        Well, if you understand, then the Apaches would have burned everything there, I do not think that Russia would have lifted the Air Force into the air
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 3 July 2020 07: 54
          +8
          OH don't tell me Apache is a super duper not downed helicopter?. If you think that the air defense is brought into a combat position after the radar detects the target at maximum, then you are grossly mistaken, it does not look like this at all. The "militias" with "viloanchels" performed such an overture by the composer Wagner. The Holandans, following the example of Israel, banned some of Wagner's works from the next day.
          1. Samara_63
            Samara_63 3 July 2020 08: 08
            -9
            Honestly, I’m far from hatred, especially since Wagner put many there, almost all, he really needs to be simpler
            And even more so, the Dutch have shock UAVs
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 3 July 2020 08: 19
              +7
              Yes, you have paranoia, my friend, it's time to treat your nerves if PMCs are imagining everywhere. I spoke about the composer Wagner and the work "Flight of the Valkyrie".
              1. Samara_63
                Samara_63 3 July 2020 08: 23
                -7
                Yes, everything is fine with me, but he should take care of people, not to throw at random
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 3 July 2020 10: 08
                  +3
                  Quote: Samara_63
                  Yes, everything is fine with me, but he should take care of people, not to throw at random

                  Where are they and who they threw? Do you have evidence that the Wagner group was there? Have you personally even been personally? And you generally know that Wagner is the journalistic name of PMCs, and not the person commanding this PMC?))))))
            2. CSKA
              CSKA 3 July 2020 10: 10
              +1
              Quote: Samara_63
              And even more so, the Dutch have shock UAVs

              No.
        2. CSKA
          CSKA 3 July 2020 10: 06
          +2
          Quote: Samara_63
          Well, if you understand, then the Apaches would have burned everything there, I do not think that Russia would have lifted the Air Force into the air

          But what about the Mi-24 and Mi-8 dill did not burn and stopped flying?))))
          1. Thompson
            Thompson 4 July 2020 06: 29
            0
            They just stopped flying in time so that they would not be burned. Everything is just Watson
    2. CSKA
      CSKA 3 July 2020 10: 05
      +2
      Quote: Samara_63
      The Dutch then really wanted to drop the landing, they had already withdrawn a battalion of marines from the exercises, a battalion of special forces from the MTR was ready, the battalion of paratroopers was put in a barracks position, like all Apache attack helicopters and F-16 planes flew to Ukrainian airfields

      You have something fantasy played out. What makes you think that the Dutch really wanted to?
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 July 2020 06: 43
    12
    The tragedy of MH 17 "broke" Merkel ... she did not want to impose sanctions on Russia. And without Europe, the US sanctions practically did not work ... It was then that they worked out the mechanism of imposing sanctions on "high-likes", attracting any news feed, or creating it ... At that moment Germany (and all of Europe followed) resisted. Here's a plane ...
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 3 July 2020 07: 31
      +2
      the tragedy of MH17 "broke" the merkel ......... yes, nothing can be broken, ... the heirs left this burgher a good chance to leave the "Marshal's plan" and become an independent state for Deutschland ....... but M didn’t dare ... so the curators are still getting angry about Deutschland because of the big puddle .... and the burgher is now. in its feeble mind. between a rock and a hard place ... on the one hand, curators. which could have sent away 10 years ago. on the other hand, local influential burghers who, in view of the closure of several nuclear power plants, do not have enough electricity and SP-2 it would be salvation .... nooooo, .... it is her fault. as adik in due time. .... they are such a rake !!!.
  8. ender
    ender 3 July 2020 06: 44
    -3
    and what are the other versions in the book?
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 3 July 2020 07: 39
      +4
      and what other versions are in the book? ..... but it doesn’t matter ..... the result is known ... what’s the funniest thing in this tragicomedy as before the State Department everyone becomes cancer all at once
  9. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 3 July 2020 06: 47
    +8
    MH17 is the Gleivitz of our day. With the help of this provocation, the Clintonoids tried to draw Russia into the war with Europe and NATO. Now imagine what would have happened if the country at that moment was ruled by Sobachek or Failure.
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 3 July 2020 08: 24
      +5
      Now imagine what would happen if the country at that moment was ruled by Sobachek or Failure.

      there would be nothing. President Navalny would be busy signing another agreement with the Americans on the destruction of Russian weapons, and the government would stand in line for the IMF (after Ukraine and the Baltic states) in the hope of receiving another tranche as a reward for the collapse of its economy. For MH17, even a reason would not have appeared
  10. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 07: 13
    -12 qualifying.
    Oh yeah, I was waiting for this! I waited the same as racist chess announcements, because whites go first.
    Of course, nothing could have happened without America; Washington’s hand is everywhere!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 3 July 2020 07: 18
      11
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      Of course, nothing could have happened without America; Washington’s hand is everywhere!

      In the case of Ukraine - 100% true.
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 3 July 2020 07: 43
        -10 qualifying.
        In the case of Iran, it was also "100% true", and then Iran itself admitted that it was a mistake.
        1. Jack O'Neill
          Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 07: 53
          -13 qualifying.
          In the case of Iran, it was also "100% true", and then Iran itself admitted that it was a mistake.

          Well, just the other day, it bombed a missile plant in Iran. 100 Jews and Americans are to blame! It just turned out that there was a banal accident.
          The day before yesterday, my handle on the cabinet broke. Just like here, the Americans are involved with the Jews! The CIA and Mossad sawed a pen while I was sleeping! laughing
          1. Ka-52
            Ka-52 3 July 2020 08: 32
            11
            Just like here, the Americans are involved with the Jews! The CIA and Mossad sawed a pen while I was sleeping!

            yes, you’ll tell us now that the bombing of Yugoslavia really began because of concentration camps, the bombing of Iraq because of Iraqi anthrax stamps, and Gaddafi was killed by freedom-loving and democratic Bedouins, brutally oppressed by this dictator.
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 3 July 2020 08: 40
              +3
              BRAVO! K-52 ... good
            2. Jack O'Neill
              Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 08: 44
              -12 qualifying.
              yes, you’ll tell us now that the bombing of Yugoslavia really began because of concentration camps, the bombing of Iraq because of Iraqi anthrax stamps, and freedom-loving and democratic Bedouins killed Gaddafi.

              Oh, oh, what bad Americans, well, horror. But what kind of relationship do Iraq, Yugoslavia and Gaddafi have to MH-17?
              When Americans are already drawn to everything they see, this is called schizophrenia!
              1. Ka-52
                Ka-52 3 July 2020 08: 59
                12
                But what kind of relationship do Iraq, Yugoslavia and Gaddafi have to MH-17?

                Well, if it’s difficult for you to engage in mental activity, I’ll explain: there and there, the USA organized (!) occasion. As in the case of the attack on Grenada, letters began from allegedly oppressed students there.
                When Americans are already drawn to everything they see, this is called schizophrenia!

                you would worry about your sanity. For your information "doves of peace and democracy" have organized and / or participated in about 2 military conflicts since WW30. And these are only open and open military operations, not counting the support of any marginal rabble such as gusanos, mujahideen, etc. Isn't it too much for innocent sheep?
                1. Jack O'Neill
                  Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 09: 11
                  -11 qualifying.
                  Well, if it’s difficult for you to engage in mental activity, I’ll explain: the United States organized (!) a reason for both operations there and there.

                  Oh, it’s like, organized an occasion.
                  Interestingly, and can you and proofs are "organized"? No, I'm not writing that you fantasize, no. Don't think anything like that ...
                  But then again, if the Americans "organized" a pretext, then did they soak MH-17 too? Brilliant logic! Sherlock gives a standing ovation! Noo, backflip applauds!
                  But if a little serious, then do you really see a black cat in a black room?

                  you would worry about your sanity.

                  I got worried. Fair! I recently renewed my rights, so the doctors had to go through. Fortunately - healthy!
                  And then, and I do not blame one of the nations on the planet for all the sins of mortals.
                  Вон "Tank jacket", your friend, will soon write that the Americans and the dinosaurs have soaked.
                  Do not worry about drugan?

                  For your information "doves of peace and democracy" have organized and / or participated in about 2 military conflicts since WW30. And these are only open and open military operations, not counting the support of any marginal rabble such as gusanos, mujahideen, etc. Isn't it too much for innocent sheep?

                  Well, since the Doves of Peace, it was in the name of peace. Well, how can an organization with such a name do something bad?
                  But then again, check out my first sentence in this post.
                  1. Leon68
                    Leon68 3 July 2020 11: 08
                    +4
                    Quote: Jack O'Neill
                    Vaughn "Tank Jacket", your friend, will soon write that the Americans and the dinosaurs were killed.

                    I won’t speak for dinosaurs, but these creatures, just under the root, after the dinosaurs, were not mowed down! Or will you deny this too?
                    1. Jack O'Neill
                      Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 16: 17
                      0
                      I won’t speak for dinosaurs, but these creatures, just under the root, after the dinosaurs, were not mowed down! Or will you deny this too?

                      No, I won’t deny the bison, they really were mowed down like mammoths.
                      However, I did not deny other Americans' merits. Those that really are, not fictitious.
                  2. realdiamond
                    realdiamond 3 July 2020 12: 43
                    +1
                    Quote: Jack O'Neill
                    But then again, if the Americans "organized" a pretext, then did they soak MH-17 too? Brilliant logic! Sherlock gives a standing ovation! Noo, backflip applauds!

                    They developed such a trick with Cuba, and now they do not hide this fact. In 1962, a similar scenario was developed (the downing of a passenger (supposedly) plane by a Cuban (supposedly) fighter). So your hypertrophied surprise is completely incomprehensible.
                    1. Jack O'Neill
                      Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 16: 19
                      -2
                      They developed such a trick with Cuba, and now they do not hide this fact. In 1962, a similar scenario was developed (the downing of a passenger (supposedly) plane by a Cuban (supposedly) fighter).

                      Aww, at the time when we put the missiles in Cuba, the Americans were developing something more seriously, like the Union. But is this applicable to the tragedy in Ukraine? No, not applicable.
                      1. realdiamond
                        realdiamond 4 July 2020 10: 23
                        0
                        But why? Develop a provocation? Please, an example is given. Shoot down a passenger plane? Not a problem. Recall the Iranian passenger plane. So you can stir up such an operation. In terms of morality, they specifically degraded. I would like to hear in response an adequate argument why such a provocation is not applicable to Ukraine, why is it so special.
                      2. Jack O'Neill
                        Jack O'Neill 4 July 2020 16: 21
                        0
                        I would like to hear in response an adequate argument why such a provocation is not applicable to Ukraine, why is it so special.

                        We also shot down the civilian side, the Iranians are the same, so this does not mean that every side that fell, we or the Iranians shot down. Logically, isn't it?
                        It’s one thing - they can or not, but they’ve done another. the difference is huge. proofs are needed, concrete, but they are not.
            3. SNEAKY
              SNEAKY 3 July 2020 09: 08
              +5
              hi Are Americans drawn to everything? lol Hello. And they themselves forever by a lucky chance where there is either blood or shit. They cherish democracy as they can. There were a lot of versions, but they’ve photographed overseas, but they’re embarrassed for 6 years) The cartoon will take a bite or two )
              1. Jack O'Neill
                Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 09: 15
                -8
                There were a lot of versions, but there were some pictures taken overseas, but they’re embarrassed to show them for 6 years) The cartoon will take a look at one or two)

                Well, ours then immediately showed how the Ukrainian Su-27 shoots down a Boeing!
                By the way, I have not seen American cartoons about Boeing. Will show?
                1. figwam
                  figwam 3 July 2020 09: 47
                  +5
                  Quote: Jack O'Neill
                  Well, ours then immediately showed how the Ukrainian Su-27 shoots down a Boeing!

                  So this photo was sent to Russia by an American citizen, so it really is, yours immediately showed.
                  1. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 16: 20
                    -3
                    So this photo was sent to Russia by an American citizen, so it really is, yours immediately showed.

                    I have not heard of this. But if that was the case, then the obvious otmaza.
                    Indeed, why check the material? Ahh, so this is a fake, did we get it? Well this is an American (no) sent us a picchu.
                    Nice try.
                2. SNEAKY
                  SNEAKY 3 July 2020 10: 06
                  +2
                  I can’t show you American evidence, because. it was forbidden to lie since childhood. Almaz-Antey did everything right by throwing ideas for you and the like on the fan. The truth is always and somewhere close to "s." But again, it's terribly strange, where you won't even find refutations) Ukraine is guilty of the catastrophe! , not a dispatcher, not a rocket! People just died over the country ... and then looking for the guilty is the lot of a small mind.
                  1. Jack O'Neill
                    Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 16: 24
                    -4
                    The one whom the court finds guilty is to blame. While the court has not reached a verdict, the presumption of innocence is valid.
                    You, like I and many others, can only assume, no more.
                    You and I have nothing, only OBS from the Internet, unlike the court that is conducting this case.
                    1. Doliva63
                      Doliva63 3 July 2020 18: 49
                      +1
                      Quote: Jack O'Neill
                      The one whom the court finds guilty is to blame. While the court has not reached a verdict, the presumption of innocence is valid.
                      You, like I and many others, can only assume, no more.
                      You and I have nothing, only OBS from the Internet, unlike the court that is conducting this case.

                      As they write themselves, the court is just operating with the materials of the "OBS from the Internet" - what can you expect from such a court?
                    2. Jack O'Neill
                      Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 19: 50
                      0
                      As they write themselves, the court is just operating with the materials of the "OBS from the Internet" - what can you expect from such a court?

                      Link, of course, you will not give. But I will give it to an official source.
                      https://www.om.nl/onderwerpen/mh17-vliegramp/nieuws
                      Do not read jaundice.)
                      And yes, by the way, about the OBS. What the identities of witnesses hide, it’s not just like that, but because their lives are in danger. 12 people went to protect witnesses.

                      Well, the work of JIT can be seen in this video, in which the BUK of the 53rd Brigade was traced.

                      And here is the vidos:

                      I believe them. However, the information behind the eyes.


                      And about "you're all lying", "it's not true", etc., then you can brainwash someone else with this. So it's not even worth writing if you don't have evidence, official, of course.
                      Those. Links to some expert nouname - Petya - do not count.
                      I read, read a lot on this issue, so everything is extremely clear to me. So don’t even try.
    2. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 3 July 2020 08: 54
      +3
      In the case of Iran, a bomb was planted in Boeing in London and brought into action, and Iran had to take the blame to land the situation, not to unleash a war in the BV and play Trump against the Clintonoids in the US Army.
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 3 July 2020 09: 12
        -9
        In the case of Iran, a bomb was planted in Boeing in London and brought into action, and Iran had to take the blame to land the situation, not to unleash a war in the BV and play Trump against the Clintonoids in the US Army.

        I'll scream it! Thanks for the great comment.)
        1. SNEAKY
          SNEAKY 3 July 2020 10: 16
          +2
          Well, as if a person expressed it, stupidity or not, time will tell. You are all wrestlers here for iPhones 20e scratching their shirts, and call remote bombing a fantasy. This idea has the right to life, because I have a spy on it. I can go to the Skripals in London to treat to treat))))
        2. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 3 July 2020 12: 30
          -1
          The Ukrainian Boeing did not fly to Tehran, but flew from Tehran, did not decrease, but gained altitude ... Iranian air defense It was more logical to bring down a plane that was flying to Tehran, which was flying and descending. There were such planes on this day. bully
          Something a lot of coincidences in one day and in one episode. On a Kolomoisky’s plane, Canadian citizens fly from Iran, after an exchange of missile attacks by the US and Iran, and here’s a coincidence bully
      2. military_cat
        military_cat 3 July 2020 09: 18
        -3
        Quote: Tank jacket
        In the case of Iran, a bomb was planted in Boeing in London and brought into action, and Iran had to take the blame to land the situation, not to unleash a war in the BV and play Trump against the Clintonoids in the US Army.
        Those who are behind all this just want you to think so, and hide their true motives. And you pecked at their trick so easily ...
  11. Pavel73
    Pavel73 3 July 2020 08: 14
    +1
    And this is no secret conspiracy, everything is absolutely in sight.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 3 July 2020 10: 41
    +1
    Chess is clearer !!! I copy !!!
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 3 July 2020 08: 32
    -2
    Tse Malaysia. Tse is not Europe.
    Maybe the Malaysians themselves tried ???
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  • Avior
    Avior 3 July 2020 09: 30
    -2
    Mahadzir Ibrahim gives several versions of what happened in the sky over the southeastern Ukraine engulfed in civil war on July 17, 2014. .... The author is trying to find the answer to the main question: who in general could be profitable to bring down a passenger Boeing ....

    One of the versions that Mahajir Ibrahim makes is the version that it could be beneficial to the United States of America.

    And what other versions are there in the book? What answer did the author of the book come to? What kind of author is this, what is he known for and why is it important to read it, and not Wikipedia, say, there are also different versions there too? In Malaysia, a lot of materials on the topic of the Boeing catastrophe have probably been published. Why did you choose this particular author? What do the relatives of the victims who are most interested in obtaining the truth about the disaster think about this?
    What does the author think about the JIT investigation involving the prosecutor's office of Malaysia itself?
    More questions than answers.
    1. Leon68
      Leon68 3 July 2020 11: 12
      +2
      The Malaysian Prime Minister has already answered you what he thinks about the incident and its investigation.
      1. Avior
        Avior 3 July 2020 14: 44
        -2
        The investigation is carried out by the prosecutor's office of Malaysia, she is not subordinate to the prime minister
        What the prime minister said is his purely private opinion
        But it's about another
        Why did they pull one piece out of the book? If you already started writing about a book, write objectively or don’t take it
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 3 July 2020 19: 03
          0
          Why did they pull one piece out of the book? If you already started writing about a book, write objectively or don’t take it

          So all the yellow news works, didn’t you know? wassat
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 3 July 2020 12: 02
    +2
    To any ATTENTIVE person with NORMAL brains a long time ago everything is clear: who, how and why brought down a Boeing over the Donbass. And without any highly artistic whistles!
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 3 July 2020 14: 54
      -1
      To any ATTENTIVE person with NORMAL brains a long time ago everything is clear: who, how and why brought down a Boeing over the Donbass. And without any highly artistic whistles!

      Well, not so simple. Do you think this situation is NOT examined carefully? Already on the bones dismantled. And like experts, people with brains sorted. And opinions are different, even the opposite.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 3 July 2020 12: 57
    +1
    According to the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova, the publication of this book suggests that the Malaysians are trying to form their own opinion about what happened to the MH17.

    So the Malays, too, were "asked" to trust the investigation, just like the Russians.
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 3 July 2020 18: 34
    +1
    I wonder what is the concrete evidence that the Boeing was shot down? I remember that the dill fired at its fragments for several weeks with anything - there are holes, Mom, don't worry! Well, the striking elements of any missile can be planted at any stage of the "investigation". In general, "I do not believe!" (C).
  • 123456789
    123456789 3 July 2020 19: 52
    0
    Quote: Jack O'Neill
    Americans and dinosaurs are soaked.

    You have all mixed up: not dinosaurs, but Indians - the indigenous inhabitants of the American continent. And the information line was this: If the Indians had not been soaked, they would have soaked the bison!
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 July 2020 01: 28
    0
    I repeated many times: the number 1 board of Russia from Brazil with the World Cup was only half an hour late! No politician will voice this, i.e. shot down the wrong side