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In Georgia, the dissatisfaction with the mosaic of the main temple of the Armed forces of Russia was explained

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Mosaic in the Main Temple of the Armed Forces of Russia caused a negative reaction in Georgia. Mosaic reactions in the new church are expected from the Georgian Orthodox Church.


The first to complain about the mosaic was the former press secretary of the Georgian Orthodox Church, Basil Kobakhidze. He was enraged by the mention in the mosaic of the participation of Russian troops in the hostilities in Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

According to Kobakhidze, who, by the way, back in 2004, 16 years ago, was barred for his criticism of Patriarch Elijah II, the Georgian Orthodox Church should not only criticize the temple mosaic, but also expel the official representative of the Russian Orthodox Church from Georgia, and also recall his representative to the Moscow Patriarchate.

In addition, Kobakhidze insists on autocephaly of the Georgian Orthodox Church. If the GOC does not demarcate with the Russian Orthodox Church, then, according to Kobakhidze, she will thereby prove that she is still a “branch of the KGB”.

Thus, we see that the disgraced Georgian leader is guided in his words by purely political considerations. His hatred of the modern Russian state is more significant than the desire for the unity of the Christian world, for the unification of all Orthodox believers in Russia and Georgia. Instead of attacking the mosaic of the Russian temple, such figures would be involved in solving the internal problems of their country, which even now, despite US assistance, is one of the poorest countries in the post-Soviet space.
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  1. Vend
    Vend 2 July 2020 18: 18 New
    49
    And there was nothing to meddle in, aggressors
    1. convoy
      convoy 2 July 2020 18: 23 New
      65
      Quote: Wend
      And there was nothing to meddle in, aggressors

      In general, they would have been silent, but it would have been better if Mishiko would have caught a drug addict killer for trial ... Maybe you have forgiven you for shooting our peacekeepers and civilians in Tskhinval. They still blame the bastards.
      And the temple is beautiful of course!
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 2 July 2020 20: 00 New
        30
        KGB branch

        My God, a living associate of Novodvorskaya and others like them. Tell him already that the KGB is not there, and the Gulags have closed. Probably tormented, sleeps no night
        And about the temple and Abkhazia ... After the attack on the Russian peacekeepers, do not even dare to open your mouth
        1. Alex 2020
          Alex 2020 2 July 2020 20: 41 New
          14
          It is useless to explain anything. They don’t understand. Yes, and sponsor money need to work out .. Well, the victims of nature.
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 2 July 2020 21: 17 New
          +7
          Quote: Mitroha
          After the attack on the Russian peacekeepers-

        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 3 July 2020 00: 30 New
          20
          Quote: Mitroha
          After the attack on the Russian peacemakers, do not even dare to open your mouth

          At the same time, our troops didn’t enter Tbilisi ... sometimes I think, they didn’t enter in vain, and after the nostrils they didn’t drag Misha into Moscow.
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha 3 July 2020 06: 25 New
            11
            I fully support, even despite other reasons, for an attack on a soldier of our country, and even more so in the status of peacekeepers — an extremely harsh answer should follow, with the UNCONDITIONAL PUNISHMENT of those responsible for the attack. And everyone should know that.
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 3 July 2020 08: 08 New
              +8
              This is not enough. The country's military doctrine should state that any country that has attacked Russia will lose its statehood. It will be wiped off the face. Only fear can keep enemies. No exhortations and persuasions can help convince perverts and Satanists. They hate us just in fact existence.
              Well, and the inevitability of punishment. Why has Mishiko still not been caught by the secret services and not sitting for life? Well, or would he choke on a death with a tie?
              1. nemez
                nemez 3 July 2020 09: 44 New
                -6
                Are you sure that Volodya is ours? Something he doesn’t particularly touch either the Teddy bear or the oligarchs. Although it can do it easily and naturally.
              2. Alexander Belyavsky
                Alexander Belyavsky 4 July 2020 15: 32 New
                0
                That shot down the Turks SU-24.Attack? Of course. And what about the Turkish statehood? Zero growled ...
                1. BARKHAN
                  BARKHAN 5 July 2020 13: 30 New
                  0
                  Quote: Alexander Belyavsky
                  That shot down the Turks SU-24.Attack? Of course. And what about the Turkish statehood? Zero growled ...

                  About that and speech. Weak and unrequited beat constantly.
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 3 July 2020 06: 59 New
            +4
            ... in addition, giving this piglet the opportunity to spoil us in its activities in Ukraine.
            No, of course, he deserved the honor of being brought at least to RND on a rope attached to an armored personnel carrier.
            1. Vend
              Vend 3 July 2020 10: 13 New
              +1
              Quote: hydrox
              ... in addition, giving this piglet the opportunity to spoil us in its activities in Ukraine.
              No, of course, he deserved the honor of being brought at least to RND on a rope attached to an armored personnel carrier.

              So from his activities worse only Ukraine, not Russia laughing
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 4 July 2020 06: 41 New
                0
                It's a delusion.
                We don’t care about affairs in Ukraine itself, but the attitude that is taking shape in the world towards Russia as a result of the vile movements of the Ukrainian authorities is very harmful to us.
          3. Grits
            Grits 3 July 2020 07: 43 New
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            At the same time, our troops didn’t enter Tbilisi ... sometimes I think, they didn’t enter in vain, and after the nostrils they didn’t drag Misha into Moscow.

            And now Georgia would be the most pro-Russian country. Peaceful and contented even without Abkhazia and South Ossetia
      2. Well done
        Well done 2 July 2020 20: 29 New
        +4
        Mishiko is a separate issue. Would roll it in the steps of the Temple, along with the weapons of the Nazis. Wow, I would dance on such steps)
        1. krops777
          krops777 3 July 2020 07: 15 New
          +1
          Mishiko is a separate issue. Would roll it in the steps of the Temple, along with the weapons of the Nazis. Wow, I would dance on such steps)


          Don’t worry, people like him usually end up badly, he’s not worthy of being rolled up in the HCV level.
    2. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
      tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 2 July 2020 18: 37 New
      +8
      You were there? I advise. There are so clearly visible the traces of Western democracy, which the proud but cowardly Georgians carried to the Abkhaz, who stubbornly did not want it. Only these traces from the caliber of 20 mm ...
      1. NIKN
        NIKN 2 July 2020 18: 51 New
        23
        Horror, (I can’t pick up anything that wouldn’t ban). Where is Georgia and where is the temple. Talk better with your host about democratic unrest. Or are they not allowed to bark there, but just not lick, no?
    3. Valery Valery
      Valery Valery 2 July 2020 19: 09 New
      34
      Anecdote:
      The presidium of the government of the USSR received a complaint from the government of the Georgian SSR on the lines of the Russian poet M. Lermontov. :
      "The battle did not last long -
      Timid Georgians fled! "
      The Presidium of the Government of the USSR decided to meet the Georgian comrades and make corrections to the work of the great poet:
      "The battle did not last long -
      Brave Georgians were running! "
      1. convoy
        convoy 2 July 2020 20: 07 New
        +7
        Quote: Valery Valery
        The battle did not last long -
        Brave Georgians were running! "

        Thank you laughing heartily ...))))) good
        Although the Georgians fought well in the Second World War .. But then you see themselves as "chosen"
        They lived richly during the USSR and thieves in law were the most there, and now ..
        Now the poorest former republic .. And on business.!
        1. krops777
          krops777 3 July 2020 07: 23 New
          +1
          They lived richly during Soviet times and there were most thieves in law there, and even now.


          Here it is necessary to pay tribute to the Georgians, after they passed the law, imposing 10 years for the fact that you have the status of a thief in law, all thieves have safely moved to Russia.
        2. Grits
          Grits 3 July 2020 07: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: Konvoi
          Although the Georgians fought well in the Second World War .. But then you see themselves as "chosen"
          They lived richly during the USSR and thieves in law were the most there, and now ..

          All the peoples that once fought a battle alongside the Russian soldiers took over the fighting spirit of the Russians and courage. As soon as they became enemies of the Russians, as they began to lick their heels to the west and learn military affairs from American instructors, the Russian spirit weathered. Together with fighting spirit and skill.
        3. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
          tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 July 2020 18: 07 New
          0
          So the conversation is not about Them ... I hope ...
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 2 July 2020 20: 27 New
        -3
        Anecdote
        The Tatars were very offended by the saying "An uninvited guest is worse than a Tatar"
        We went to meet them. Now it sounds like this
        "An uninvited guest is BETTER than a Tatar
        1. convoy
          convoy 2 July 2020 20: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Anecdote
          The Tatars were very offended by the saying "An uninvited guest is worse than a Tatar"
          We went to meet them. Now it sounds like this
          "An uninvited guest is BETTER than a Tatar

          Thank you from the bottom of my heart laughing .. I have Tatars childhood friends .. Well hit, those more .. wassat Well, this mentality)))
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 2 July 2020 21: 11 New
            +9
            Quote: Konvoi
            . I have Tatars childhood friends.

            In the Saratov region, my grandmother and grandfather lived. There are 14 nationalities in the village. Well, where can it be without the Tatars? Normal boys laughing
            Well, in the SA, too, the Tatars were friends
            1. major147
              major147 2 July 2020 23: 30 New
              10
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Normal boys

              There were also several Tatars in our unit. In 95, on Easter in Grozny, a priest (who was later killed by the militants) came to the unit and served the Easter service. After the service, he began to sprinkle the soldiers with Holy water, but our Tatars stand aside, do not fit. The father asks: "why don't you come up?" They answer, they say we are Tatars ...
              - Come, says the priest, God is one, it will not be worse.
              Came up - sprinkled ....
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 2 July 2020 23: 34 New
                +9
                Quote: major147
                We also had several Tatars in our unit.

                When I served on nationality, I didn’t pay much attention to it. The main criterion was decency.
                Another Russian was scum more than any other by nationality.
                And that lovers cheat, yes laughing
                1. major147
                  major147 2 July 2020 23: 36 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: major147
                  We also had several Tatars in our unit.

                  When I served on nationality, I didn’t pay much attention to it. The main criterion was decency.
                  Another Russian was scum more than any other by nationality.
                  And that lovers cheat, yes laughing

                  I don’t argue at all hi
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 2 July 2020 23: 40 New
                    +7
                    Quote: major147
                    I don’t argue at all

                    I had several friends of Georgians. Nice guys. Unfortunately, not one is alive anymore. Yes, and during the service in the SA among the friends were Georgians. Tell me then, that in 30 years this nation there will be so bogged down, but I wouldn’t believe it
                    1. major147
                      major147 2 July 2020 23: 45 New
                      +6
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Quote: major147
                      I don’t argue at all

                      I had several friends of Georgians. Nice guys. Unfortunately, not one is alive anymore. Yes, and during the service in the SA among the friends were Georgians. Tell me then, that in 30 years this nation there will be so bogged down, but I wouldn’t believe it

                      He served with a Georgian guy. He married and stayed here in Russia. A couple of years ago, by chance met in a supermarket, hugged for joy ....
                      1. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 2 July 2020 23: 49 New
                        +4
                        Quote: major147
                        He married and stayed here in Russia.

                        A Georgian doctor worked in our hospital. He also married and stayed. Mirab Livanovich. The soul is a man. True, I have not seen for a long time. He is working in another hospital now. But sometimes I ask about him, they say that everything is fine with him. I don’t know how to doctoral, but defended my Ph.D.
                    2. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
                      tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 July 2020 18: 12 New
                      0
                      The nation has nothing to do with it ... Like the Ukrainians. What is on the mental level - upbringing plus the mistakes of the Soviet government - all brotherly ... Well, that doesn’t happen.
    4. Finches
      Finches 2 July 2020 20: 05 New
      +6
      I once respected Georgians, especially Ramaz Shengelia and Kote Makharadze .... And now I do not see Georgians point blank - American bedding, and no more! And I don’t know why this clown, even under the USSR I could not stand - which is my age, my wealth! There was some kind of sweetie, it’s obvious that he wanted to please all the directors - if only they took him off ... He looked into the water ... laughing
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 2 July 2020 20: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        which is my years, my wealth!

        How about that?

        And this?
        1. Finches
          Finches 2 July 2020 20: 37 New
          +8
          This one, Woland, has been rear-wheel drive all his life! laughing
        2. Voyager
          Voyager 2 July 2020 23: 23 New
          +5
          Yeah, gag reflexes. Especially from the host in the second video.
        3. awg75
          awg75 4 July 2020 18: 50 New
          0
          no words. Russia is too good a state. in any other, the clown of Basilashvilli would not have had a job in that country, the soldiers of which he considers garbage unworthy of some kind of attention. according to his logic, they killed, and a bells with them. and this creature lives in Russia lives and thrives.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 2 July 2020 21: 15 New
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        And now I do not see Georgians point blank - American bedding, and no more!

        As elsewhere there are both. A Georgian guy under 40 years old has been working in our office, he is Soviet and Stalinist, more than many of ours. Man reasonably looks at everything that happens.
        1. Finches
          Finches 2 July 2020 21: 19 New
          +3
          We have the whole of St. Petersburg dotted with Georgian cafes and they are ready to go to war for their own sake for profit ... So your example is inappropriate - if he had the same views while living in Tbilisi, that would be an indicator!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 2 July 2020 21: 30 New
            +6
            Quote: Finches
            So your example is inappropriate - if he had the same views while living in Tbilisi, that would be an indicator!

            That is why he left Georgia for not being able to live there.
            1. Alex Justice
              Alex Justice 3 July 2020 11: 53 New
              0
              That is why he left Georgia for not being able to live there.

              More likely because of money.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 3 July 2020 13: 10 New
                0
                Quote: Alex Justice
                More likely because of money.

                No, he has little money here, it was possible to get more there, having a completed diplomatic academy. Not everyone could tolerate the orders of the president chewing ties.
      3. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
        tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 5 July 2020 18: 16 New
        0
        And you (sorry) compare how Kikabidze and Frunzik Mkrchan reacted to the collapse of the Union ... One cried - the other laughed, drank wine and ... well, you understand ... Good luck and health ...
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 2 July 2020 21: 05 New
      10
      Quote: Wend
      And there was nothing to meddle in, aggressors

      Why was this miracle not indignant when Saakashvili ordered the Grads to iron kindergartens and schools? Believer is a believer, Epona mother! Ugh ...
    6. Rosko
      Rosko 3 July 2020 00: 22 New
      -3
      They didn’t ask you .... Imfusoria
  2. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 2 July 2020 18: 21 New
    -33
    And in the Second World War against the Georgians did not fight? In Vietnam, the Georgians did not fight against America? Everything will be remembered to you from that side.
    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 2 July 2020 18: 27 New
      13
      Quote: seregatara1969
      In Vietnam, the Georgians did not fight against America?

      Was Uncle Ho a Georgian?
      Now I know everything ...
      1. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 2 July 2020 18: 28 New
        -12
        Among the Russians there is one Georgian
        1. Russ
          Russ 2 July 2020 19: 10 New
          +6
          Quote: seregatara1969
          Among the Russians there is one Georgian

          "assa" !!!
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 2 July 2020 19: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: Russia
            "assa" !!!

            "Where are you, my Sulikoooo"
        2. Foxmara
          Foxmara 2 July 2020 19: 19 New
          +7
          where without them. neighbor in the yard of Georgians. communicate every day. So what?
        3. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 2 July 2020 19: 38 New
          19
          Quote: seregatara1969
          Among the Russians there is one Georgian

          "I am not Georgian - I am Russian of Georgian origin"
          Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin
          1. major147
            major147 2 July 2020 23: 34 New
            +4
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            "I am not Georgian - I am Russian of Georgian origin"

            "Georgian son of the Russian people" ....
        4. Grits
          Grits 3 July 2020 07: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: seregatara1969
          Among the Russians there is one Georgian

          Even among the Americans there is one Georgian.
          Remember how McCain said - "Today we are all Georgians." ... And something suspiciously ached in the place where the watch was stored.
      2. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 2 July 2020 19: 36 New
        +6
        Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer

        Was Uncle Ho a Georgian?

        Aha.
        Khoshiminidze lol
      3. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 2 July 2020 21: 53 New
        +4
        The Georgian was Fam Tuan (Ijou), who first bombed the B-21 on the MiG-52, and then became the first Vietnamese astronaut.
    2. Vend
      Vend 2 July 2020 18: 29 New
      28
      Quote: seregatara1969
      And in the Second World War against the Georgians did not fight? In Vietnam, the Georgians did not fight against America? Everything will be remembered to you from that side.

      And the heroes of the Second World War and those who fought during the USSR, we have always honored and will honor, so remember 2008, preferably looking in the mirror every day.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 2 July 2020 18: 59 New
        11
        Quote: Wend
        And the heroes of the Second World War and those who fought during the USSR, we have always honored and will honor

        Eh, not further than a couple of weeks ago I watched the film "Soldier's Father".
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 2 July 2020 18: 59 New
        -2
        antivirus 2 Today, 08:54
        TA war ... it will seem to grandchildren that it was as long as for us
        as "the time of Ochakov and the conquest of Crimea"
        May 9, 82 g after the relay, in honor of Victory Day, at Victory Square (where the start and finish) go to school.
        To meet me, not an old man, in a nice linen suit, 3 rows of planks, gray-haired, with a black and gray-haired mustache: "Stalin had Georgians' favorites, they were sent to tank troops, so many were burned out"
        not verbatim. You always do not remember and understand the main thing in life. Why did he speak with a stranger? Did the veteran himself see this and could not remain silent?
        I remembered now - a photo with tumbled out of the hatch, charred

        NOW I UNDERSTAND (NOTE TO 88G, AFTER THE ARMY, I HAVE SEEED ON CAUCASUS AND BEGIN TO DISCRIMINATE) THAT THIS WAS OSSETIAN
        A complaint
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 2 July 2020 19: 09 New
          +4
          The tankers sent those who are small in stature. Rather, this is the case.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 2 July 2020 19: 39 New
            +7
            Quote: Pereira
            The tankers sent those who are small in stature.

            And tractor drivers.
            My grandfather got into tankers like that. He fought with a mechanical driver. Burned in two tanks
    3. avg
      avg 2 July 2020 20: 45 New
      12
      Quote: seregatara1969
      And in the Second World War against the Georgians did not fight? In Vietnam, the Georgians did not fight against America? Everything will be remembered to you from that side.

      Yes, during the Second World War, Georgians, along with the entire Soviet people, beat the Nazis. But in the late USSR, Georgians ate three throats, sang in three voices, and also traded in tangerines, received the largest subsidy from all the Soviet republics and were always unhappy.
      1. major147
        major147 2 July 2020 23: 41 New
        +7
        Quote: avg
        But in the late USSR, Georgians ate three throats, sang in three voices, and also traded in tangerines, received the largest subsidy from all the Soviet republics and were always unhappy.

        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 3 July 2020 06: 06 New
          +8
          Do not show this sign to the Labuses, otherwise they have an age-old popabol that the "occupiers" robbed them and ate them, they fed the entire USSR. But now they have healed, d. B.
          1. Grits
            Grits 3 July 2020 08: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: K-612-O
            Do not show this sign to the Labuses, otherwise they have an age-old popabol that the "occupiers" robbed them and ate them, they fed the entire USSR. But now they have healed, d. B.

            It would be interesting to look at a similar EU label. How are the labuses feeding Europe sprats?
  3. BAI
    BAI 2 July 2020 18: 23 New
    10
    former spokesman for the Georgian Orthodox Church Basil Kobakhidze. The mention in the mosaic angered him.

    They forgot to ask him. Now there is someone to send to hell.
    1. major147
      major147 2 July 2020 23: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: BAI
      They forgot to ask him.

      From the very beginning, I just wanted to write these words, but
      spread by a cape on a tree
      reading comments good
  4. wow
    wow 2 July 2020 18: 25 New
    +1
    But ho ho not huh huh!?
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 2 July 2020 18: 37 New
      +6
      Quote: yo-mine
      But ho ho not huh huh!?

      And not vice versa? laughing
  5. grigorii
    grigorii 2 July 2020 18: 28 New
    +3
    Only - if only to find fault with something. Little of them raped.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 2 July 2020 19: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: grigorii
      Few raped them.

      Therefore, they drag
      1. major147
        major147 2 July 2020 23: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Few raped them.

        Therefore, they drag

        "I was beaten, insulted and humiliated! What else does a simple masochist need to be happy?" repeat
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 2 July 2020 23: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: major147
          What else is needed for happiness for a simple masochist

          Authentic streamer laughing
  6. Romanenko
    Romanenko 2 July 2020 18: 28 New
    16
    The Russian military did indeed take part in the hostilities in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and those displeased from Georgia can simply wipe themselves with their statements. The Russians came there as peacekeepers and liberators, but the Georgian military, I remember, is somewhat different
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 2 July 2020 19: 48 New
      12
      Quote: Romanenko
      Russians came there as peacemakers and liberators

  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 July 2020 18: 30 New
    +7
    Since they are outraged, they remember how gloriously Russia spread them. Our Victory is worthy of mosaics in the Main Temple of the VS. They forgot to ask.
  8. Basil50
    Basil50 2 July 2020 18: 30 New
    0
    Any church is a bunch of warlike fanatics. The history of mankind proves this.
    The fact that in * zhoria * is dissatisfied with something means something has been done correctly. This * zhorik *, like other * zhoriks * was promised to pay for barking and grunting in the direction of RUSSIA. Apparently all their beliefs depend only on what they are paid for.
    And the insult to RUSSIA is understandable, they * were removed from the allowance *. They say a lot of words, but there is a grudge against RUSSIA for rejecting * the content of the proud and independent *.
    1. Sergey Averchenkov
      Sergey Averchenkov 2 July 2020 19: 49 New
      -3
      In some ways you are right. May I continue? Any faith is a bunch. I am telling you this absolutely seriously - I am an atheist in the third generation.
      1. Nikolay Sviridenko
        Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 27 New
        +2
        You are not an atheist. The true atheist has nothing to do here - he is too busy. He knows that life is the only thing that he needs to do EVERYTHING during this time! And do not engage in petty arming of believers, which he does not care!
        And you are a believer just like us. Only we believe that He is, and you believe that He is not, for this is your hope of lack of retribution ...
        1. Sergey Averchenkov
          Sergey Averchenkov 3 July 2020 17: 40 New
          -1
          So ... you decided everything for me and have already classified. Well, God, if he was, such ... There is even nothing to argue about - how many people were destroyed in the name of God? And one more jamb in your faith - "God created people in his image and likeness." Looking at people, I understand what a bad creature God is. If he was. And in general I do not understand you believers - why do you need these moral crutches in the form of commandments? If not for the commandment, would you kill? But without faith in any way? Is it just that, based on your own convictions, you cannot understand that pride is bad? Come on, believe me, you just don't know how. :)
  9. Olkass
    Olkass 2 July 2020 18: 31 New
    0
    There was only one smart Georgian who, during the collapse of the USSR, said: "What kind of idiots you have to be to lose a colony like Russia."
  10. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 2 July 2020 18: 34 New
    +8
    I have a friend - a Georgian. I ask him - what are you doing ... He says - this is not us. Then think for yourself.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 2 July 2020 19: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      I have a friend - a Georgian. I ask him - what are you doing ... He says - this is not us. Then think for yourself.

      Similarly. In other words, but the meaning is the same
    2. Nikolay Sviridenko
      Nikolay Sviridenko 11 August 2020 18: 41 New
      0
      "This is not us" © What nonsense! During World War II, all Romanians who were captured by the Soviet Union screamed that they were just grooms! And who laid the civilians in Odessa in thousands in ditches - they do not know! So it is here. I will believe that if this "Georgian friend" is a peasant, they are completely different. And the townspeople are all swindlers. They are very good friends, I drank enough in my time ...
  11. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 2 July 2020 19: 16 New
    +2
    Joseph or Lawrence are not enough for them repeat
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 2 July 2020 20: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: LVMI1980
      Joseph or Lawrence are not enough for them repeat

      And better than both at once. yes
    2. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 2 July 2020 21: 57 New
      +2
      Joseph or Lawrence are not enough for them

      And not only on them.
  12. Alien From
    Alien From 2 July 2020 19: 18 New
    +4
    The temple is visible directly from the Minsk highway, a very magnificent building)
  13. svp67
    svp67 2 July 2020 19: 24 New
    +6
    In addition, Kobakhidze insists on autocephaly of the Georgian Orthodox Church.

    1. Russ
      Russ 2 July 2020 19: 37 New
      +2

      Something like this.... wassat
    2. Nikolay Sviridenko
      Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 21 New
      +1
      I don’t think the former priest is so illiterate. Rather, the autocephaly, which the GOC possesses fully since 1943, is required by the author ...
  14. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 2 July 2020 19: 27 New
    +2
    I remember well the war 08,08,08. Just don’t lie to me. It's all over - "300 is not necessary - one is enough."
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 2 July 2020 19: 52 New
      +8
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      It's all over - "300 is not necessary - one is enough."

      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 2 July 2020 20: 19 New
        +2
        I would give you more advantages, but I can’t. Sorry.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 2 July 2020 20: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          I would give you more advantages, but I can’t.

          A. Twardowski.
          "Vasily Tyorkin."
          "- No guys, I'm not proud.
          Without making a distance
          So I say: why do I need an order?
          I agree to the medal. "
          hi
      2. fox_rudy
        fox_rudy 3 July 2020 07: 10 New
        +2
        One mistake, the guy did not die! I watched not so long ago about him. Lives and lives still.
  15. Russ
    Russ 2 July 2020 19: 30 New
    +4
    I probably don’t understand something .... bite with what side to our temple? Let the saliva choke .....
  16. bober1982
    bober1982 2 July 2020 19: 34 New
    0
    In order to demand autocephaly of the Georgian Church from the Russian Church, on which Mr. Kobakhidze insists, one must be an insane person.
    And why bother voicing all his nonsense.
    1. Nikolay Sviridenko
      Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 19 New
      +1
      Vasek erupted from the dignity will not demand autocephaly. For he, unlike the author of the article, knows perfectly well that the Georgian Church had its autocephaly from the Xth (according to other sources - from the Vth) century. From 1801 to 1917, it was the Georgian exarchate of the Russian Orthodox Church, and in 1943 it again received full autocephaly in which it has hitherto remained.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 3 July 2020 17: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Nikolay Sviridenko
        Vasek erupted from the dignity will not demand autocephaly

        Then why such an article is needed?
        1. Nikolay Sviridenko
          Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 43 New
          +1
          Honestly, I don’t understand. Some dignitary in Georgia is blaming for Russia. So what? The Georgian Church will not go to the occasion of razstrigi. The meaning of the article is the advertisement of Vask Kobakhidze, I don’t see another ...
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 3 July 2020 17: 55 New
            +1
            Dissatisfaction announced in Georgia ......
            This, so the news begins, no less and no more - they announced in Georgia, and what the pop-rascal announced is, so to speak, in small print.
            Quote: Nikolay Sviridenko
            Honestly - I do not understand

            Me too, or maybe everything is clear.
  17. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 2 July 2020 20: 00 New
    +2
    In Georgia, the dissatisfaction with the mosaic of the main temple of the Armed forces of Russia was explained

    You forgot to ask! Russia has not stolen anything from anyone, but paid tribute to the soldiers who died in the Second World War, including 79 Georgians.
    1. Sergey Averchenkov
      Sergey Averchenkov 2 July 2020 20: 29 New
      0
      We were all then the USSR - there is nothing to be reckoned with. Well, if only they blame us for something ... but nothing.
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 2 July 2020 21: 20 New
        +5
        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
        We were all then the USSR - there is nothing to be reckoned with.

        They do not take into account the memory of the people, it either is and is supported by the state, or, as in the Baltic states, Georgia and Ukraine, it is not. It is etched and replaced by nationalism.
    2. Disorder
      Disorder 2 July 2020 22: 28 New
      0
      Well, in Abkhazia and South Ossetia it was not Georgians who smashed, but Georgians (in English transcription Georgia is spelled the same as the name of the star-striped state of Georgia).
  18. VIP
    VIP 2 July 2020 20: 18 New
    +1
    "to expel the official representative of the Russian Orthodox Church from Georgia", and in one to take away Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
    Forbid us to remember: Shota Rustaveli, Stalin. Indeed, this is a corporate disgrace: the Russians respect the True Georgians, and Mishiko puffed
  19. Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 2 July 2020 20: 20 New
    +1
    it's just ENVY !!! !!! ... but as a minister to the church, envy is a mortal sin yes so that kept quiet, would .... in a rag
  20. pv1005
    pv1005 2 July 2020 20: 21 New
    +2
    Jumping with a pan on his head, a pop-bell is not Georgia yet.
  21. AB
    AB 2 July 2020 20: 26 New
    0
    If the GOC does not demarcate with the ROC

    Tomos number 2? Flag in their hands. You need autocephaly, but take it! A true Orthodox believer knows where "the Third Rome is, and the fourth will not be."
    1. Nikolay Sviridenko
      Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 12 New
      +1
      The GOC was dependent on the Russian Orthodox Church only from the moment Georgia entered the Republic of Ingushetia and until 1917. In 1943, the Russian Orthodox Church officially recognized the autocephaly of the GOC.
      1. AB
        AB 4 July 2020 11: 25 New
        0
        And how to perceive these lines from the article?
        Kobakhidze insists on autocephaly of the Georgian Orthodox Church. If the GOC does not demarcate with the Russian Orthodox Church, then, according to Kobakhidze, she will thereby prove that she is still a “branch of the KGB”

        Is the author of the article mistaken or the press secretary (though former) of the Georgian Orthodox Church Basil Kobakhidze?
        Yes, in 1943 the autocephaly of the Georgian Church was recognized by the Moscow Patriarchate, and on March 3, 1990 - by the Patriarchate of Constantinople, BUT apparently doubts roam in the minds. There is little livelihood, the income is scanty. But earlier ... It hurt the whole of Georgia and the autocephalous GOC to live well under the patronage of Moscow, they really respect the money very much, but there are no people.
  22. VIP
    VIP 2 July 2020 20: 44 New
    +2
    "insists on the autocephaly of the Georgian Orthodox Church" something reminds me of autocephaly, someone recently sought autocephaly, or whatever is right there, and that everyone there became rich and happy, and our Putin hanged himself with envy?
    1. Nikolay Sviridenko
      Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 10 New
      +1
      The author is stupid. GOC autocephaly was recognized by the Russian Orthodox Church in 1943. Yes, and before Georgia became part of Russia, the GOC had full autocephaly from the XNUMXth century, for sure, but, according to some sources, from the XNUMXth century.
  23. VIP
    VIP 2 July 2020 20: 48 New
    +2
    Quote: Vladislav_2
    it's just ENVY !!! !!! ... but as a minister to the church, envy is a mortal sin yes so that kept quiet, would .... in a rag

    Or maybe he is driving a wave because he was kicked out of the church?
  24. VIP
    VIP 2 July 2020 20: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: LVMI1980
    Joseph or Lawrence are not enough for them repeat

    They do not have enough wrestling
  25. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 2 July 2020 20: 55 New
    +2
    Military temple.
    The war of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX was and our soldiers took part in it, so everything is fine that it was reflected in the mosaic.
    Therefore, Kobakhidze’s genocles eat khachapuri and do not reflect, otherwise you may choke!
    We will manage without your opinion!
    I even propose to introduce Georgian sanctions and stop supplying your Borjomi to Russia, otherwise all the shelves are bursting with it.
  26. veritas
    veritas 2 July 2020 20: 59 New
    0
    The Georgians forgot what they got there. What other discontent can they have, they can be unhappy only because they did not reach Tbilisi in due time.
  27. VIP
    VIP 2 July 2020 21: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
    I have a friend - a Georgian. I ask him - what are you doing ... He says - this is not us. Then think for yourself.

    I’ll say a friend, men, you understand me, Georgian and she says
    - I am ashamed that the Georgians completely lost their minds.
    Georgians were traditionally smart people, and now some kind of flood has found on them
    1. oldzek
      oldzek 2 July 2020 22: 23 New
      +2
      At one time, the USSR national chess team consisted only of Georgians. Hence the conclusion: women in Georgia are smarter than men. Do you know Georgian chess players? I don’t.
      1. Oleg Salov
        Oleg Salov 3 July 2020 01: 45 New
        +2
        I can argue with you on this subject, judging by the president of Georgia, they are not smart nichrome, the second psaki.
      2. VIP
        VIP 3 July 2020 12: 25 New
        0
        I don’t remember either, but I remember Nora Gaprindashvili, I remember May Cheburdanidze
        1. Nikolay Sviridenko
          Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 36 New
          +1
          Remember bad! But on Gaprindashvili and Maya Chiburdanidze.
      3. Nikolay Sviridenko
        Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 41 New
        +1
        Georgians are a separate conversation. If a Georgian devoted herself to the Cause, she reached very high peaks. And here is not only chess. Almost all of the interesting Soviet-era buildings in Tbilisi are female architects. Men spent days in a cafe discussing all kinds of gesheft.
  28. Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 2 July 2020 21: 24 New
    +1
    I have not read the comments yet ...
    But where is Georgia, and where are you?
    And nobody asked the opinion of Georgia. I don’t like Georgian tea, but I don’t knock Georgians on the tabloid, as well as the Azerbaijanis (they have a lot of brandy tea ....).
    But the moderators for such articles need to kick the sikel.
    1. VIP
      VIP 3 July 2020 12: 21 New
      +1
      I rarely take tea, and then only Krasnodar or Richard. Azerbaijani brandy drank good before, I liked it better than Georgian
  29. ppgt90
    ppgt90 2 July 2020 21: 25 New
    +2
    And what about their displeasure to us? To be honest, I would generally sneeze at the dissatisfied, but there is no coronavirus. Let them thank Russia on their knees with bows to the ground that they did not roll up all of Georgia together with Tbilisi with tanks. Now there would be no one to be indignant. In general, gentlemen, it was fascinating for me to watch on TV how "brave Georgians and their no less brave American instructors" fled. What a sight to behold. The Americans are still "demanding" the trophies from Russia. Well, by all means, let them "demand" another 50 years, maybe we will return some scrap.
  30. Campanella
    Campanella 2 July 2020 21: 45 New
    +1
    Up a wall with a mosaic, this disgruntled Georgian should head to beat, maybe it will feel better!
  31. Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 July 2020 22: 00 New
    +1
    Is "Batono" Kobakhidze dissatisfied and teasing? Well, let him puff. Maybe someone will throw a bone.
  32. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 2 July 2020 22: 10 New
    +3
    In addition, Kobakhidze insists on autocephaly of the Georgian Orthodox Church

    Wait a minute, isn’t the GOC an autocephalous one? It seems that in the diptych of the Istanbul Patriarchate in sixth place, immediately after the Russian Orthodox Church.
    1. Nikolay Sviridenko
      Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 34 New
      +1
      The author is stupid. Vasek, like a former priest, of course knows everything.
  33. zkorvin
    zkorvin 2 July 2020 22: 47 New
    +2
    The political statement of the Georgian hacking is inappropriate, especially on behalf of the GOC. Moreover, it can be qualified as interference in the internal affairs of Russia and the Russian Orthodox Church.
    If Tskhinvali has not taught some odious Georgian "politicians" anything, they will teach sanctions ...
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  35. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 3 July 2020 00: 04 New
    +1
    In vain we then, in 2008, did not reach Tiflis.
    1. Nikolay Sviridenko
      Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 33 New
      +1
      Not in vain. This country can only live under external control. What for do we contain a horde of lazy people? Enough! The Americans have a conscience that allows them to be kept in a black body - even if they are. And without Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Georgia will not be able to harm us strategically, as Ukraine itself without Crimea ...
  36. Neutron Retarded
    Neutron Retarded 3 July 2020 00: 43 New
    +2
    Why all these shallow publications? Who are all these people from Georgia?
    Should their opinion interest us?
  37. Oleg Salov
    Oleg Salov 3 July 2020 01: 42 New
    +1
    And if the GOC disengages from the ROC, thereby it will prove that it is a "branch of the CIA."
    1. Nikolay Sviridenko
      Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 17: 06 New
      +1
      What do you mean "split up"? The author, out of ignorance, blurted out about "autocephaly" from the Russian Orthodox Church. For your information - at the time of Georgia's accession to Russia, the GOC already had autocephaly (from the 1917th century), in 1943, the patriarchy was restored in XNUMX, and in XNUMX the autocephaly of the GOC was recognized by the ROC.
  38. Nitarius
    Nitarius 3 July 2020 03: 56 New
    0
    There is no Stalin on their head .. regular boobies bark!
  39. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 July 2020 06: 25 New
    0
    Oh my God, we were directly afraid, and what striped lackeys would think about our military temple. And they still don’t know that the KGB is left in the USSR? Well rodents, you give.
  40. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 3 July 2020 07: 51 New
    -1
    Something you dear because of a gang of scoundrels throw mud at the whole people! They persecuted Georgians both under the "lover of tie-making" and under the current pro-American camarilla, after all, only the Georgians themselves, when they are "finished" by these so-called. power (and in fact puppets of "striped whales)" and then the people themselves will drive these pigs away from the "trough" "!
    1. Nikolay Sviridenko
      Nikolay Sviridenko 3 July 2020 16: 57 New
      +1
      Will not drive away. There are TWO people in Georgia - villagers and townspeople. The villagers are real Christians, kind and open. But they will never become power in Georgia. But the townspeople ... - watch "Khanuma" - it is, in fact, a documentary. Crooks - everything, there are cute, but still crooks. The past hundred-odd years have changed nothing. These are the townspeople. It has long been clear that if you give power to them without control, the country will fall apart, for example, the times of the Mensheviks or Gamsakhurdia. Therefore, Georgia can exist as a more or less integral state only under external control ...
  41. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 July 2020 07: 52 New
    0
    Mosaic in the Main Temple of the Armed Forces of Russia caused a negative reaction in Georgia.
    And these, what does it have to do with it? laughing
  42. Joker62
    Joker62 3 July 2020 07: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: Welldone
    Mishiko is a separate issue. Would roll it in the steps of the Temple, along with the weapons of the Nazis. Wow, I would dance on such steps)

    Why spoil the temple, where Mishiko and his henchmen will lie on the steps ??? It will not be a Temple, but a cattle cemetery ....
  43. Joker62
    Joker62 3 July 2020 08: 05 New
    0
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer

    Was Uncle Ho a Georgian?

    Aha.
    Khoshiminidze lol

    Nope, Khoshtnishvili! It will be right....
  44. HMR333
    HMR333 3 July 2020 08: 11 New
    +1
    In Georgia? And here in Georgia when this separate urfin jus blurted out somewhere!
  45. zwlad
    zwlad 3 July 2020 08: 23 New
    +2
    Mosaic in the Main Temple of the Armed Forces of Russia caused a negative reaction in Georgia.

    Dogs bark, the caravan goes on.
  46. Revolver
    Revolver 3 July 2020 08: 43 New
    +1
    And most of all they probably infuriate the image of Stalin, their only countryman, who is known throughout the world and will be remembered forever.
  47. +5
    +5 3 July 2020 09: 24 New
    +1
    Why drag here a pop-rasstrigu trying to catch a hype on the subsided Georgian popopoli from 080808?
  48. zlobny tatarin
    zlobny tatarin 3 July 2020 10: 04 New
    +3
    I hate nationalism. Tatars are hit, Georgians are scoundrels, Moldavians are homosexuals ... any nation will be fanned by foolish and stupid people who have met on their way some representatives of different nations.
    We are all good. Everyone has their own villains. And as a whole, no people in the world are bad. This should be known and remembered by some frivolous commentators.
  49. Wolf
    Wolf 3 July 2020 11: 31 New
    +1
    The ecumenists and Jesuit agents of Fanarioti attack the Orthodox Church in Montenegro, Greece, in Tsarigrad, Macedonia, Serbia, Ukraine, Georgia, Bulgaria and Rumunia. If cavo scored do not be offended.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_gmJV7mF-c
  50. Fitter
    Fitter 3 July 2020 11: 31 New
    0
    Let the rodents return to the fray. They will still yelp, courage ...