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Military expert convicted of high treason

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The St. Petersburg City Court found guilty of treason against military expert Vladimir Neyolov and sentenced him. He is accused of transferring classified information to a consulting firm in Germany.


This was announced by the joint press service of the courts of St. Petersburg on Telegram.

The accused was given seven years in prison, which he will serve in a maximum security prison. He received this punishment for transferring information to the German company for monetary compensation about the system of training and advanced training of operational employees of the Federal Security Service.

Neyelov did not plead guilty in full, since, according to him, he did not know that the data that he transmitted to the Germans represented state secrets.

The hearings on his case were held behind closed doors, since the information discussed at the meetings is classified as Top Secret.

Although Vladimir Neyolov was found guilty of high treason, the sentence is called “relatively lenient,” because the sanction of criminal article 275 provides for a prison term of 12 years, and the accused received only seven.

Vladimir Neyelov is known as the author of expert articles on PMCs and military theory for the Center for Strategic Market Studies.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 July 2020 14: 46 New
    33
    Share. What a naive ... I didn’t know, didn’t sign anything, I didn’t give a non-disclosure agreement ... 7 years is a serious term, but on strict regime ...
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 2 July 2020 14: 49 New
      36
      Yeah. he did not know. sometimes you have to think with your head. The system of training and advanced training of operational employees of the Federal Security Service cannot but be a state secret. silly pretend it's certainly super. But to transfer the info to the Germans for him, of course, it was in the order of things. yeah.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 2 July 2020 15: 14 New
        12
        Germany is a protectorate of the United States.
        This is how many lives of Russians - defenders of the Fatherland - this Judas voluntarily surrendered for foreign bills of the CIA ?!
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 2 July 2020 15: 44 New
          10
          Yes, who knows ... but judging by the fact that he decided to excuse himself with the fact that he did not know, the fact of his actions was proved in full. expert
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 2 July 2020 16: 47 New
            23
            No, of course, the boy was a good expert.
            After all, what is necessary for such an assessment?
            1. Correctly evaluate the value of this information to the buyer.
            2. Find a buyer who is ready to pay the Old.
            3. Set the right price for it.
            4. To commit the act of transferring information - receiving money, but got caught.
            As a result - 7 years of continuing education courses.
      2. Souchastnik
        Souchastnik 2 July 2020 16: 05 New
        16
        the system of training and advanced training of operational employees of the Federal Security Service cannot but be a state secret

        And in my head a question arises: "How did this information get to him?" or "Who gave him this information?" As far as I understand, he himself did not undergo this training.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 2 July 2020 16: 13 New
          +4
          breaking. theft. lost data. options are darkness. where people work, there are always options for screwing up. I think it was also found there, they just won’t tell us. litter from the hut there do not like to make public.
          1. halpat
            halpat 2 July 2020 21: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: carstorm 11
            breaking. theft. lost data. options are darkness. where people work, there are always options for screwing up. I think it was also found there, they just won’t tell us. litter from the hut there do not like to make public.


            inspired me :))
        2. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 2 July 2020 17: 13 New
          -1
          "How did this information get to him?"

          I picked it bit by bit from somewhere. Type articles with hooks. Chatting here in discussions such as this site - a lot.
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 2 July 2020 21: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: Interlocutor
            I picked it bit by bit from somewhere. Type of articles with hooks

            In Western intelligence services, entire departments and even institutes are engaged in this, with a staff of thousands of people. And this information is applicable to analytics in general, and does not concern specific things, such as "information about the system of training and advanced training of operational officers of the Federal Security Service." And here a man, in one person, picked up so much classified information from the press that it was enough for both sale and for a period of time. I doubt it. Most likely, he had access, or good informants in the special services. Here one can only guess, since we do not know the details of the investigation and the case itself.
            1. Cympak
              Cympak 3 July 2020 09: 50 New
              +2
              If you "get confused" and be able to search the network for archived data, then you can collect a lot, then analyze the collected data a little, draw conclusions. But here the "failure of the resident" is most likely due to the fact that there was an order and, most likely, an appeal for missing information to its carriers.
            2. akulych
              akulych 3 July 2020 11: 52 New
              -1
              Most likely Valetsky passed it, with whom they wrote a book on Iraq. Valetsky dark type, like Strelkov-Girkin, either acting, or acting cadre, or anchored to the rank. He was noted in Yugoslavia, Africa. Most likely it was Valetsky who was hooked and offered to substitute this Yksperd. So that Yksperd does not dig under the Cook and his "musicians". And then there you can dig up to The Hague with a good excavator. IMHO
        3. Charik
          Charik 2 July 2020 21: 06 New
          0
          and also interesting - they knew before he was going to transfer or transferred, and then they learned
        4. Cympak
          Cympak 3 July 2020 09: 41 New
          0
          In our country, the article "for state treason" can be easily obtained for collecting and summarizing information found in open sources: articles on websites, videos on yootube, discussion in profile profiles ...
          1. Glory1974
            Glory1974 3 July 2020 09: 53 New
            +1
            In our country, the article "for state treason" can be easily obtained for collecting and summarizing information in open sources

            90% of the information is obtained from open sources. But from this it does not cease to be important. Therefore, not only in our country is this. As an example, the scandal with the book of Bolton, in which he divulged what is not a secret, but is not subject to disclosure. They also want to concoct a business for him.
          2. bk316
            bk316 3 July 2020 13: 29 New
            0
            In our country, the article "for state treason" can be easily obtained for collecting and

            And in the most democratic and legal country there is generally a very simple article called for cooperation with US enemies. You don’t even need to analyze anything, just collected the articles handed over to the Russian Federation and sat on the tag. THERE ARE NOT IMPORTANT TO DAMAGES, AND THE FACT OF COOPERATION. We would be so ......
      3. alexmach
        alexmach 2 July 2020 16: 51 New
        +4
        the system of training and advanced training of operational employees of the Federal Security Service cannot but be a state secret

        And if this is a secret, then how did he himself gain access to it without giving a subscription?
        1. volodimer
          volodimer 2 July 2020 18: 48 New
          +3
          This is the main question! Most likely I got some info from someone from the system, I didn't even think about it being closed, because it came very easily. Transferred "for a fee": he was apparently asked to write a review, and he banged it on the basis of this information. The result ... "Expert" is punished.
          The system will find who put the original info, but the "expert" is officially to blame, the system is clean.
          And the one who leaked the information to the "expert" will be quietly punished, but it will be hidden from outsiders.
    2. 4ekist
      4ekist 2 July 2020 15: 05 New
      0
      Something was not enough given to this eunuch.
      1. doubovitski
        doubovitski 2 July 2020 16: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: 4ekist
        Something was not enough given to this eunuch.

        Nothing. 7 years of being a beloved wife ..... If you survive, it will be completely different.
    3. Clear
      Clear 2 July 2020 15: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Share. What naive ...

      Tell me, Evgeny, how is the title of "Military Expert" awarded? Judging by the photo, the boy is still young. Indeed, during the trial, this "title" played a cruel joke with him. I would just be convicted of theft.
      1. prior
        prior 2 July 2020 15: 30 New
        12
        To become a military iksperd you need to have a "dad". Otherwise, you will have to serve for a long, long time ...
        1. Clear
          Clear 2 July 2020 15: 38 New
          +3
          Quote: prior
          To become a military iksperd you need to have a "dad".

          Wow, the criterion for obtaining the status of "military expert" is to have a dad.
          By the way, what do you mean by the word "have"? winked
          1. prior
            prior 2 July 2020 15: 51 New
            +2
            The meanings of the word "have" are as many as those of the word love.
            But you got it right yes
            1. Sklendarka
              Sklendarka 2 July 2020 16: 32 New
              0
              ,, .. everyone wants to have a girlfriend and a friend .. "(song)
      2. ltc35
        ltc35 2 July 2020 15: 36 New
        +5
        From the article it is not entirely clear in which department he worked. Military experts can be even where. We have here on the site of our experts full laughing
        In general, when transferring information to foreigners for money, it is necessary to understand the consequences. For partners, sometimes the little things are important and of which intelligence can add up the whole picture.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 2 July 2020 15: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: ltc35
          For partners, sometimes the little things are important and of which intelligence can add up the whole picture.

          Right! Everything is exactly as you say!
          You look at the very root - and not only to protect our Fatherland now, but also to protect our Fatherland in the future!
        2. Avior
          Avior 2 July 2020 18: 23 New
          +2
          We have here on the site of our experts full of laughing

          we are not just full. we have every expert smile
        3. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 2 July 2020 19: 56 New
          -1
          the question is where did he get the information from? that they let him everywhere? which department issues peels of a military expert? How much do these peels allow you to recognize state secrets? the answer is simple in the country, a mess is flourishing, buying and selling everything and of course nepotism as the Russian classic said, see the root
      3. doubovitski
        doubovitski 2 July 2020 16: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: Clear
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Share. What naive ...

        Tell me, Evgeny, how is the title of "Military Expert" awarded? Judging by the photo, the boy is still young. Indeed, during the trial, this "title" played a cruel joke with him. I would just be convicted of theft.

        You can be called whatever you want. Even the Mother of God. Conclude an agreement with some publication, write reviews there, if they like it, you will receive decent fees. Over time, you will bronze, and you will be a master in your field. This ferret, wrote, had loot, bought information, documents. Later. most likely signed another piece of paper.
        I think they gave 5 years of freedom (they didn’t give it to the fullest) for cooperation. So, the landing of his contactees will continue.
        1. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 2 July 2020 19: 58 New
          -1
          the question is where the one who sold him the information
    4. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 2 July 2020 16: 30 New
      +2
      Minusators only 11? What is called, silently and viciously ... But there are not enough arguments? Just bubbling in her throat ...
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 2 July 2020 19: 10 New
        -2
        Get the 12th argument written above alexmach (Alexander)... Of course, ignorance of the law does not absolve one from responsibility, but here it is obvious that someone rather covered the priest. Because there is either a spiteful spy who, without a permit, was able to gain access ... As in the movie "Major Whirlwind"
        Or simply to slove those who had such access blurt out a military secret to this boy drunk.
        And slove in uniform and with connections, which is so simple, without prejudice to the image you will not punish.
        Here are my arguments.
        At school, we had a comic poem, about the subjects studied, something like:
        Chemistry, science is eternal, studies matter ...
        We remember from all the molecules of sodium-chlorine and al-two-o
        So about the foreign language:
        English, this is the essence, is necessary abroad,
        And so as not to give out anything, we’d better be silent there.
        The guy apparently did not know that even information from open sources can be accessed. Better to stay awake than sit down.
        But still you are tough. because and minus. hi
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 2 July 2020 19: 22 New
          +1
          . He received this punishment for transferring information to the German company for monetary compensation about the system of training and advanced training of operational employees of the Federal Security Service.

          His firm either developed this system, or he was associated with those who developed it. When the "closed court" and the case materials are classified, they are not classified because they want to sue this puppy, but because he turned out to be a "secret carrier" ... And he sold these secrets ... for money! Is he naive enough to assume that he is being paid for nonsense?
          1. volodimer
            volodimer 2 July 2020 19: 39 New
            -1
            Either one or the other ... Which company? If he worked in a firm related to "the development of a system for training and advanced training of operational officers of the Federal Security Service," and if he did not give a subscription, there should be a process in the firm's case.
            If he gave a subscription, the charge and sentence would be different. If just connected with ...
            then they should be judged by the one who allowed him to this information.
            "I sold secrets for money", but there was most likely a publication fee, which became the rationale for the "sale".
            Of course, now to publish in leading foreign magazines, you also have to pay yourself, and here the fee is in euros ...
            1. Obliterator
              Obliterator 3 July 2020 00: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: volodimer
              Which firm? If he worked in a firm related to "the development of a system for training and advanced training of operational officers of the Federal Security Service," and if he did not give a subscription, there should be a process in the firm's case.

              There can be no "against the firm" processes. Criminal cases are always initiated against individuals. persons.
              Quote: volodimer
              If he gave a subscription, the charge and sentence would be different. If just connected with ...
              then they should be judged by the one who allowed him to this information.

              Subscription does not play a role - in order to sell secrets, it is not necessary to have official access. The judge of who admitted him to this information should only be based on the personal responsibility of this person for the loss of classified information.
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 3 July 2020 13: 23 New
                -1
                Is playing. There is such a thing - a conclusion on actual awareness
        2. Igool
          Igool 3 July 2020 01: 54 New
          +2
          Let me explain a possible option: the contactee was "supervised" in connection with some kind of activity. Infa has arrived that the secret services of our "inveterate friends" are driving wedges to the brow and are looking for a way out on a certain topic. The contactee, became interested in this topic too much. They leaked to him misinformation, but of high quality, which he sent to our "friends". The topic contained a piece of information with a stamp, either for official use, or they did not regret something with a stamp in secret.
          1. Cympak
            Cympak 3 July 2020 09: 57 New
            0
            "Special service", for example, could be the developer of computer tactical shooters;)
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 2 July 2020 14: 47 New
    -22
    7 YEARS? ??? HOW TO GIVE THESE! Not even a lifetime! HIGH! And without the right to amnesty, or review of the case! In the USSR, they didn’t even fuss with such people, but here the rotten democracy was around-Jude vile even forgotten to plant for 12 years! Or, paid off under the pretext of a deal with the investigation? ??
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 2 July 2020 15: 23 New
      +2
      Shaw, you got so crazy. Give you a tower.
      He may not return after these 7 years, or he may not get to his place of imprisonment. Anything can happen on the road.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 2 July 2020 15: 30 New
      -17
      NINE MINUSATORS is at least 9 ready to stand next to this Judas? I, gentlemen of minusoids, have I understood you correctly? ??
      1. doubovitski
        doubovitski 2 July 2020 16: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: Thrifty
        NINE MINUSATORS is at least 9 ready to stand next to this Judas? I, gentlemen of minusoids, have I understood you correctly? ??

        21 minus signers. With my (unfortunately) 1 minus. That means he handed over his accomplices. If heads are cut off, they will, of course, remain free. And they will continue. Clausewitz said that "If you have a retreating enemy in front of you, and the river interferes with the retreat, build him a golden bridge." Clever man, not like you.
    3. Jack O'Neill
      Jack O'Neill 2 July 2020 19: 14 New
      0
      7 YEARS? ??? HOW TO GIVE THESE!

      Do you know how many people were shot before they caught Chikatila? Serve you a tower, yeah ...
      Are you sure that the person is to blame for something, to give him a tower?
  3. Evil 55
    Evil 55 2 July 2020 14: 47 New
    17
    To become an "Expert", you have to serve at least twenty years ... And this is so - an expert .. And then he managed to get sick with ruble bastard and screw up his country ..
    1. Africaner79
      Africaner79 2 July 2020 16: 37 New
      0
      Yes, he was a patriot, although people change
    2. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 2 July 2020 20: 05 New
      0
      please show me angry where and how much time they prepare the so-called experts, here I know the military journalists so they take the oath, but the experts? Well, yes, something is wrong in the Oblonsky house
  4. Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 2 July 2020 14: 58 New
    +7
    On business. At our place, people no longer understand what they are doing.
  5. cniza
    cniza 2 July 2020 15: 00 New
    10
    Vladimir Neyelov is known as the author of expert articles on PMCs and military theory for the Center for Strategic Market Studies.


    Young and smart, there will be time to gain wisdom and learn the laws ...
    1. doubovitski
      doubovitski 2 July 2020 16: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      Vladimir Neyelov is known as the author of expert articles on PMCs and military theory for the Center for Strategic Market Studies.


      Young and smart, there will be time to gain wisdom and learn the laws ...

      He’s got a bigger shovel and a deeper shaft. Uranium.
      1. cniza
        cniza 2 July 2020 17: 46 New
        +1
        I think this will not be a problem.
    2. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 2 July 2020 20: 09 New
      0
      where is the center of the strategic conjuncture, who finances it, to which ministry does it belong, what kind of regime is there, the silence of the lambs
  6. Pereira
    Pereira 2 July 2020 15: 02 New
    20
    Vladimir Neyelov is known as the author of expert articles on PMCs and military theory for the Center for Strategic Market Studies.

    He is an expert and analyst at the Center for Strategic Market Studies, a private commercial entity.
    Did he steal secret information from the FSB at night or download it from the Internet? Somehow it looks strange.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 2 July 2020 15: 18 New
      +6
      Did he steal secret information from the FSB at night or download it from the Internet? Somehow it looks strange.
      ... It turns out that the FSB poured into the Center for Strategic Conjuncture, and the Center for Strategic Conjuncture overflowed a consulting firm from Germany through Vladimir Neyolov.
    2. Nehist
      Nehist 2 July 2020 15: 23 New
      +3
      Gg Military expert! And then the FSB? Offices are generally different. Another witch hunt ... IMHO
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 2 July 2020 15: 32 New
        +6
        Nehist (Alexander).....
        And then the FSB?
        It turns out that he didn’t come up with the information about which the article says ... And then honestly, not seeing the court’s decision, it’s hard to say what he really did ... and who participated ... This article information, and our comments are just speculation ..
      2. Vita vko
        Vita vko 2 July 2020 16: 48 New
        +5
        Quote: Nehist
        IMHO

        The scheme was probably quite simple, which many young people who write master's and doctoral dissertations can run into.
        Neyelov is a former FSB officer. The media write that he quit the rank of senior lecturer. He was engaged in strategic research, but within the framework of requirements like SCOPUS for publications for his scientific works, he posted articles in foreign publications. These requirements for scientific publications for master's and doctoral dissertations most likely came into conflict with the law. Hence, such a short period, only 7 years.
        1. volodimer
          volodimer 2 July 2020 19: 23 New
          0
          I agree that all these delusional ratings like the PRND lead to the fact that the latest results of the work of scientists go to foreign journals like Nature, Jass, Sainz, and to our Reports of the Academy of Sciences later, their rating is lower ... So it turns out, to be in good standing, it is necessary to merge all the best over the hill. This is how our current system works. The result is the science of the Russian Federation working for the West. At the same time, priority is also lost: while the article is "undergoing review", the results are reproduced by Western scientists, and we say with our results we confirm their "discoveries". For a dissertationist, an article in a foreign edition is a very powerful argument ... But not in this case.
          1. Tavrik
            Tavrik 2 July 2020 20: 56 New
            -2
            So it turns out, in order to be in good standing, you need to merge all the best over the hill. This is our current system. Result: Russian science works in the West.

            This also works in the opposite direction: Western science works for Russia. For what is written in a scientific journal can be read by anyone.
            1. Vita vko
              Vita vko 2 July 2020 23: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: Tavrik
              It works the other way around.

              It does not work, unfortunately. If you compare the content of publications of Western scientific schools and ours, you will immediately see the differences. Our young scientists write what and how they managed to achieve, while Westerners in 99% of their articles write on the basis of a presentation to a commercial project, where there are practically no real results and, moreover, there are no descriptions of the conditions for their achievement. When it comes to real results, it immediately becomes a trade secret, guarded an order of magnitude better than state ones. While our government agencies do not care deeply about the results of intellectual property of scientists, well, maybe with the exception of military developments, and even then this is only the last 10 years.
  7. Shuttle
    Shuttle 2 July 2020 15: 03 New
    11
    What did he transmit there, and most importantly, where did he find out?
  8. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 2 July 2020 15: 18 New
    +3
    In general, isn’t he friends with your head? .. Our media call, “experts,” the most lousy blogger with a high school diploma.
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 2 July 2020 16: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      In general, isn’t he friends with your head? .. Our media call, “experts,” the most lousy blogger with a high school diploma.

      It’s good if there is a certificate.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 2 July 2020 16: 46 New
        -1
        That's it!
    2. Cympak
      Cympak 3 July 2020 10: 02 New
      0
      We also call "experts" writers like Litovkin and Ramm, but in my opinion. they already have a complete lack of analytical and critical thinking. But cheers for patriots are selling better.
  9. yuratanja1950
    yuratanja1950 2 July 2020 15: 20 New
    +7
    "found guilty of treason military expert"...

    Wherever you spit, you’ll get into an expert ... For all questions ... And most of them, judging by their age, are super prodigies ...
    In my understanding, an expert has always been understood to mean a person who has both an extensive range of knowledge and vast experience in a certain field ... And, accordingly, not at the age of 28-30 years ...
    Well, since I called myself an expert, so fate itself ordered us not to ignore the ignorance of the importance of the material that I sold to a potential enemy ...
    Well, by God, I would load all these self-proclaimed experts on Noah’s Ark-2 and send them to develop ore mining on the Moon ... hi
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 2 July 2020 16: 44 New
      +1
      Have pity on the moon, they will quickly break it onizh, during expert disputes. laughing laughing laughing
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 2 July 2020 16: 49 New
      0
      In the language of the law, having theoretical knowledge and practical experience. And most importantly, a person who is responsible for his expert opinion, conclusion, conclusions .. Literally, I do not remember ..
  10. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 2 July 2020 15: 24 New
    +1
    D urach o, also greedy
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 2 July 2020 17: 10 New
      0
      Quote: Krasnodar
      D urach o, also greedy

      Greed and stupidity go hand in hand. yes
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 2 July 2020 17: 31 New
        0
        I would not be surprised if the money for the information was transferred to his bank account))
  11. evgen1221
    evgen1221 2 July 2020 15: 31 New
    +2
    Nowadays, every flea can be considered an expert by the masses. But is it generally regulated somehow? It seems that each youtuber with a million signatories can merge state structures with anything without showing authority on this info. In general, the matter is not only in it but in the system too.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 2 July 2020 18: 29 New
      -1
      Every blogger has access to the training features of the FSB? )))
  12. Xenofont
    Xenofont 2 July 2020 15: 32 New
    +4
    Now he will knock out his "analytics" on tablets, or rather on the wall of the barracks. I cut down the dough of a young talent ...
  13. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 2 July 2020 15: 32 New
    +8
    The former security officer, who was dismissed from military service with the rank of senior lieutenant, in any case, belongs to the secret bearers within five years after the dismissal, the convict could not know this, it puzzles another, the milk on his lips has not dried up yet, and the military expert is already in the field of military-political analysis, we have sensible experts in this field on the fingers in the country can be counted
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 2 July 2020 15: 41 New
      +5
      Chief among military experts is Felgenhauer.
      "The Georgian military began a night offensive operation in South Ossetia at midnight on August 8 and literally swept the Ossetian formations from the battlefield in just a few hours. ... But the Georgian army has not yet been defeated, and as a result of its mobilization deployment, its strength and combat capabilities will only increase. The Russian military, thrown into South Ossetia, remain in the zone of destruction of the Georgian artillery. In October, the Caucasian passes will be covered with snow until the end of next May. And the weather in the mountains will be almost permanently non-flying. Our military may find themselves in a desperate situation. "

      Interestingly, this one that passed?
    2. evgen1221
      evgen1221 2 July 2020 18: 18 New
      +2
      Yeah, somewhere, in all seriousness, I read the opinion in a large newspaper (an outstanding military expert, the newspaper called it that), known on the network under the nickname alkonaver. That's where insanity is)))
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 2 July 2020 18: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: evgen1221
        Yeah, somewhere, in all seriousness, I read the opinion in a large newspaper (an outstanding military expert, the newspaper called it that), known on the network under the nickname alkonaver.

        This is how you choose a nickname in the game for the sake of jokes - and then go with him to military experts. laughing
  14. Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 July 2020 15: 39 New
    0
    Well, the experts are gone. "Didn't know" he. When the fee was voiced, I probably imagined what for and how much.
  15. alexey1213
    alexey1213 2 July 2020 15: 50 New
    0
    Where did he get the data from? It’s that he was an officer of the FSB. Or they put him in the wrong place. We have such traitors, they just call it the framework of economic and technical cooperation.
  16. samarin1969
    samarin1969 2 July 2020 15: 52 New
    +1
    Terrorists, "dissidents", and now, spies in the Russian Federation have become younger. Probably the school did not explain that a private company is also a state secret. bully
  17. convoy
    convoy 2 July 2020 15: 56 New
    -1
    Of course he’s lying that he didn’t know ... They gave me a little!
  18. Cananecat
    Cananecat 2 July 2020 16: 04 New
    -1
    They say the lords are fighting - at the lackeys forelocks are cracking ...
    If this boy is so young and already an Expert, then he probably has some kind of information supply channel behind him. If we take into account the long-standing war between the “border guards” and the “St. Petersburg ones”, I would not be surprised if the boy turns out to be tied to one of the warring camps. In fact, it was used as a means of putting pressure on someone who remained in the shadows ...
  19. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 2 July 2020 16: 07 New
    -1
    He was engaged only in PMCs. Wrote several articles in Russia. He was not interested in military equipment.
    But, apparently, the business of Prigogine inflicted serious financial losses.
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 2 July 2020 17: 16 New
      +5
      But, apparently, the business of Prigogine inflicted serious financial losses.

      Why do you think so? Do you have confirmation?
    2. CommanderDIVA
      CommanderDIVA 2 July 2020 21: 08 New
      +2
      Do not mislead the public, he wrote about the organization of personnel work in the Russian security agencies on the order of a consulting firm associated with Germany, which does not exclude the ears of the BND, for which he received, he got off well
  20. Africaner79
    Africaner79 2 July 2020 16: 28 New
    0
    My classmate, graduate of Herzen State Pedagogical University
  21. Asad
    Asad 2 July 2020 16: 29 New
    -1
    Half of the minimum wage is almost innocent in Russia! But it is impossible to justify!
  22. Darek
    Darek 2 July 2020 16: 49 New
    +1
    Yes figs with a source of information. Well, I found something. Well sold.
    What strikes me is a little different. Really the young man didn’t ask a simple question: did the Germans plan to fork out for this info with something else? Maybe not worth it? Maybe infa for someone ... Painfully interesting?
    I wondered. How to drink, wondered. Only, probably, the toad is already stuck. Now there’s nothing left to do but to repeat, say "I didn’t know." Yeah. Did not know.
    Expert? Military? Did not know? Did not think? Another victim of the exam struck by the clip perception of the world.
    1. dauria
      dauria 3 July 2020 00: 33 New
      +2
      they say "I did not know." Yeah.

      He really didn't know. Everyone trades - and he trades. That they clung to the guy. Well, here's a drunken starley blurts out to you, with whom the general's wife sleeps. Get it on Twitter quickly. Attendance, money.
      And then the deadline ... laughing

      Is funny We started in the 90s with the sale to the left and to the right of everything that is possible. A whole generation of sellers has been raised, and now give you the patriots of the Fatherland. wassat
  23. Baloo
    Baloo 2 July 2020 16: 50 New
    +3
    In the distant Soviet school childhood, waste paper was collected. Near the garbage dump they found a pile of brochures of manuals of the NKVD and the Ministry of Defense of the prewar and war years. So there on each stood a signature stamp. Although, it would seem that there is secret in the methods of protection against a knife, a pistol, how to secretly observe on the ground, etc. But this character is muttering that he did not know? All is fair.
  24. jekasimf
    jekasimf 2 July 2020 16: 59 New
    +2
    If a person received all the information from open sources, it means the FSB themselves are guilty that this infa was there. And if someone from the special forces shared, it means that the special officers are also guilty.
  25. dgonni
    dgonni 2 July 2020 17: 05 New
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    The first question is WHERE WHERE? did he take this information? In fact, those who passed along with him should sit down! So apparently, everything is just like two fingers on the asphalt. Too much and deeply dug about PMCs. They let down their type with the discharge of information. They recorded, drove and took at the time of transfer. Given too short a period, there was no information going beyond Russia.
    Next time I will think where, how and on whom to dig.
  26. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 2 July 2020 17: 13 New
    -3
    This was announced by the joint press service of the courts of St. Petersburg on Telegram.

    How is it that they tried to block the Cart with us so much, and now the state. the news office there spreads.
    By the way, they didn’t even try to ban Tick-Tok, and through the Tick-Tok the IG (banned in the Russian Federation) recruited people.

    And the guy is sorry. One had to be careful. Although, it cannot be ruled out that the matter is simply embroidered, as is the case for our citizen in the USA. There, too, they simply sewed spying from the bulldozer.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 2 July 2020 18: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      How is it that they tried to block the Cart with us so much, and now the state. the news office there spreads.

      So everything is already - two weeks ago Roskomnadzor removed all the requirements:
      We positively assess the readiness expressed by the founder of Telegram to counter terrorism and extremism. In agreement with the Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation, Roskomnadzor removes requirements to restrict access to the Telegram messenger
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 2 July 2020 19: 09 New
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        So everything is already - two weeks ago Roskomnadzor removed all the requirements:

        Only two weeks, and the city court already has its own channel there? It’s just that he was before that, just no one wrote that mountains. court post news there.
        Yes, and if Simonyan remember who drowned for blocking the cart, and then vice versa, that it’s necessary to remove the lock so as not to disgrace.
        They just surrendered, because they could not ban the Cart. Roskomnadzor banned itself several times, but not the Cart.
  27. Old26
    Old26 2 July 2020 17: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    Germany is a protectorate of the United States.
    This is how many lives of Russians - defenders of the Fatherland - this Judas voluntarily surrendered for foreign bills of the CIA ?!

    Handed over? Why's that? After all, he did not hand over personal files of SVR employees, but information about the system of training and advanced training of operational employees of the Federal Security Service. The fact that he received the term is all right, but the fact that you are incriminating him cannot essentially be

    Quote: Souchastnik
    the system of training and advanced training of operational employees of the Federal Security Service cannot but be a state secret

    And in my head a question arises: "How did this information get to him?" or "Who gave him this information?" As far as I understand, he himself did not undergo this training.

    There are always those who want to bother. And it is unlikely that he received this information immediately. Surely it lasted a long time

    Quote: Thrifty
    7 YEARS? ??? HOW TO GIVE THESE! Not even a lifetime! HIGH! And without the right to amnesty, or review of the case! In the USSR, they didn’t even fuss with such people, but here the rotten democracy was around-Jude vile even forgotten to plant for 12 years! Or, paid off under the pretext of a deal with the investigation? ??

    In the Soviet Union, too, not everyone was given a tower. And the court sorted it out. It is one thing if he fused to the west the blueprints, technologies, test data - this is one thing. And second, when I "leaked" information about training or retraining. They are two different things

    Quote: Vita VKO
    The scheme was probably quite simple, which many young people who write master's and doctoral dissertations can run into.
    Neyelov is a former FSB officer. The media write that he quit the rank of senior lecturer. He was engaged in strategic research, but within the framework of requirements like SCOPUS for publications for his scientific works, he posted articles in foreign publications. These requirements for scientific publications for master's and doctoral dissertations most likely came into conflict with the law. Hence, such a short period, only 7 years.

    Well, in that case, at least a diagram is clear where he could get such information from ...
  28. Victorio
    Victorio 2 July 2020 18: 32 New
    +1
    since, according to him, he did not know that the data that he transmitted to the Germans represented state secrets.
    ===
    I didn’t know, but conveyed. transmitted, but did not recognize. first transmitted, and then / now found out.
  29. Shiden
    Shiden 2 July 2020 19: 20 New
    -1
    Seen brainy guy. It reminds me of an article I read a long time ago. There, a German published a book about the Wehrmacht command. Abwehr and the Gestapo had to carry out a special operation to kidnap the author of the book from Switzerland. But what was the surprise when, during interrogation, the author reported that he had collected all the data about the generals and officers by re-reading columns of local newspapers about funerals and weddings.
  30. iouris
    iouris 2 July 2020 19: 53 New
    -2
    What division did he command?
    1. Shiden
      Shiden 2 July 2020 21: 48 New
      0
      In those days, newspapers printed such articles in columns where, in addition to the full name of those present at the funeral or wedding, the position, profession, rank and general status of those present were also indicated. The same thing is happening today. Or, in your opinion, the RF Ministry of Defense issued an order banning mobile phones, disclosing the data of its data on social networks to the veterans. Yes, the author of that book forgot that he was an ordinary traveling salesman.
  31. Old26
    Old26 2 July 2020 20: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: Victorio
    I didn’t know, but conveyed. transmitted, but did not recognize. first transmitted, and then / now found out.

    In our system of secret records management could be anything. As an example, I can process what information was considered secret (it went under the heading "Secret" and "Top secret" when creating the Soviet shuttle Buran. Among the really secret information (engine type, fuel type, engine characteristics, fuel consumption) was and the fact that "did not climb into any gate." For example, the name of the landing airfields. Not the characteristics of the equipment, but the name of the airfields. In particular, the fact that the airfield in Simferopol was intended for the landing of the "shuttle" - it went under the heading

    Quote: dgonni
    The first question is WHERE WHERE? did he take this information? In fact, those who passed along with him should sit down! So apparently, everything is just like two fingers on the asphalt. Too much and deeply dug about PMCs. They let down their type with the discharge of information. They recorded, drove and took at the time of transfer. Given too short a period, there was no information going beyond Russia.
    Next time I will think where, how and on whom to dig.

    Here is what Fontanka.ru writes about this today.

    "Neyelov was found guilty of treason, he was sentenced to seven years in prison with a one-year restraint of liberty."

    Vladimir Neyelov is a former operative of the Federal Security Service of St. Petersburg and the region. In July 2016, he retired to the rank of senior lieutenant and became a military expert. He wrote analytical articles for Russian and foreign customers.

    Fatal for Neyolov became an acquaintance with the famous resident of Veliky Novgorod Svyatoslav Andrianov. He leads the international organization Center for Political Analysis and Information Security, which has a branch in Germany.

    As the court established, Andrianov ordered Neelov for 50 thousand rubles to do analytical work on training and retraining operational security officers in departmental institutions and immediately turned to the Federal Security Service of the Novgorod Region with a statement about the crime of an expert.

    Investigation activities in relation to Neyelov lasted from November 2016 to October 2018. He was vigilantly watched, recorded his meetings in restaurants and cafes. Work on the system of selecting personnel for state security remained the only episode in the Neyelov case. He was searched, detained and arrested.

    Neyelov partially admitted guilt. According to him, after the termination of the contract with the FSB, he did not consider himself a “secret bearer”.

    The court found that the training materials for counterintelligence officers were secret, and Neyelov was warned of the obligation to keep in secret the information that became known to him from the service. Andrianov’s participation in the combination of the FSB against Neyelov added an indispensable attribute of treason - the transfer of data abroad. In this case, to Germany.

    Vladimir Neyelov graduated from the Faculty of International Relations of St. Petersburg State University and graduated with a degree in strategic research, entered graduate school and was preparing to defend his dissertation. After leaving the FSB, he specialized in private military companies, modern wars, and military doctrines. The author of works in the field of strategic research and military-political analysis.
    1. Africaner79
      Africaner79 2 July 2020 23: 24 New
      0
      But how interesting is he in the FSB? if in 2011 he graduated from Russian State Pedagogical University undergraduate, then graduate 2 years
  32. Charik
    Charik 2 July 2020 21: 11 New
    0
    how the Americans wanted to arrest the Russian who did the flight simulator, such as there is a secret infa in the game, it’s written that none of the weapons developers has any relation to the game from public access, so guess what he soldered 7 or a closed court because not to they knew, but you’re right here to shoot laughing
  33. Charik
    Charik 2 July 2020 21: 17 New
    0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em4eI9PqxVM
  34. shadow
    shadow 2 July 2020 21: 30 New
    0
    Now knows.
  35. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 2 July 2020 22: 13 New
    0
    Consulted, consulted consultants, and consulted laughing
  36. tuts
    tuts 2 July 2020 22: 56 New
    +1
    What kind of position is such a military expert?
  37. Old26
    Old26 3 July 2020 00: 14 New
    +2
    Quote: Africaner79
    But how interesting is he in the FSB? if in 2011 he graduated from Russian State Pedagogical University undergraduate, then graduate 2 years

    By the way, in various sources in different ways. In some, he graduated from the Russian State Pedagogical University, in others from St. Petersburg University. If a bachelor's degree in 2011, then a magistracy in 2013. HZ quit. But they led him from 2016, as I understand from the article
    1. Africaner79
      Africaner79 3 July 2020 00: 29 New
      0
      He definitely studied at the undergraduate program of the Russian State Pedagogical University, this is my classmate.
    2. Africaner79
      Africaner79 3 July 2020 00: 30 New
      0
      but the magistracy is already St. Petersburg State University
  38. huntsman650
    huntsman650 3 July 2020 00: 45 New
    0
    At the trial, he said: "Nothing personal is business.")))
    1. akulych
      akulych 3 July 2020 12: 06 New
      0
      Were present or so, tongue pat ??
      1. huntsman650
        huntsman650 3 July 2020 12: 31 New
        0
        Not present, remembered the catch phrase phrases)
  39. lubesky
    lubesky 3 July 2020 01: 16 New
    0
    Quote: ltc35
    In general, when transferring information to foreigners for money, it is necessary to understand the consequences. For partners, sometimes the little things are important and of which intelligence can add up the whole picture.

    In fact, you need to have the honor, conscience and love your homeland, then such consequences will not come. But when this is not there, then you need to think about the consequences ...
  40. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 July 2020 07: 40 New
    0
    We have a bunch of secrets ... they gave us 1: 25000 cards at the department. Here they are still secret. You can sit down for them. But really, what is their value in the era of electronic cards?
  41. CBR600
    CBR600 3 July 2020 08: 43 New
    0
    Sorry for the guy, obviously, an order.
    1. akulych
      akulych 3 July 2020 12: 06 New
      0
      With a high probability.
  42. kot-begemot
    kot-begemot 3 July 2020 11: 37 New
    0
    We saw that the "expert" was digging under the "topic", traced the sources, put them into development. We made sure that they collect the information under the order, added our own and took the money-goods on the transfer. The evil Pinocchio itself. It's just that no one will come to the "expert "with money for a very specific infoy. Either he was recruited or played a fool blindly. In any case, what he deserved, he got it.
  43. akulych
    akulych 3 July 2020 11: 46 New
    0
    Well, okay. The kid dug up something curious about the "musicians" and the Cook, and they decided to cover him up, so as not to chatter. He was not a secret carrier, he had no admissions. By education, he is generally a history teacher from the Herzen pedagogue + postgraduate study at St. Petersburg State University in the department of international relations, he did not have time to defend himself. Author of a book about the partisan war in Iraq in 2003-2011. Digging Ukraine, Africa and Afghanistan and the participation of "musicians" there. And he dug out. For 7 years. Lucky, considering how "musicians" festivals in Donbass, the boy could just quietly work somewhere near St. Petersburg. And it would be "missing". Well, OK.
    1. CBR600
      CBR600 3 July 2020 12: 47 New
      0
      So that's the point. Someone said something to you and that’s all, be kind, at least keep quiet even mousy. That's how the parties are credited, they will pour the dollars into the account, now you are an American agent, and your party has been paid by the West. And the courts on what and how ......
  44. cheburator
    cheburator 3 July 2020 16: 19 New
    0
    This shit must be sent to the cockerel!
  45. akulych
    akulych 3 July 2020 17: 52 New
    0
    Quote: huntsman650
    Not present, remembered the catch phrase phrases)

    Well, that is, tongue pat. OK.
  46. akulych
    akulych 3 July 2020 17: 55 New
    0
    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Africaner79
    But how interesting is he in the FSB? if in 2011 he graduated from Russian State Pedagogical University undergraduate, then graduate 2 years

    By the way, in various sources in different ways. In some, he graduated from the Russian State Pedagogical University, in others from St. Petersburg University. If a bachelor's degree in 2011, then a magistracy in 2013. HZ quit. But they led him from 2016, as I understand from the article

    Everything is correct. How he started to dig "musicians" and Cooks. In the same steppe, the murder of a journalist in 2018 in the CAR. IMHO one chain. Touching Prigogine is unhealthy.
  47. saygon66
    saygon66 3 July 2020 18: 07 New
    0
    “It reminded me of the plot of The Chancelor Manuscripts ... by Robert Ludlum.
    - Developed imagination and logic did a disservice to the guy ... maybe ...
    - It would be in the "sharaga" to attach, bring benefit - so now there are no such institutions.
  48. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 4 July 2020 18: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: Tatiana
    This is how many lives of Russians - defenders of the Fatherland - this Judas voluntarily surrendered for foreign bills of the CIA ?!

    An order of magnitude less than the main Judah Tsar, the Tagged Humpback.