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“Russia fulfills orders at an accelerated pace”: US press on the supply of Russian weapons

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The Russian defense industry is able to fulfill the orders of its foreign policy partners at an accelerated pace, which gives it a significant advantage in the field of military-technical cooperation.


According to Military Watch (USA), Moscow, against the background of an aggravation of the border conflict with China, has already committed to delivering New Delhi to the S-400 air defense system as soon as possible. In a similar, “emergency” mode, it is able to provide the Indian military with 33 MiG-29UPG and Su-30MKI fighters. According to the publication, these machines can be transferred before the end of this year.

According to him, the Kremlin, working on a tight schedule, compares favorably with Paris. 36 Rafale aircraft cannot reach the customer for a long time.

France was extremely slow in supplying aircraft. Four years after signing the first contract, India has not yet deployed a single operational squadron

- indicates the media, noting that the reason for this delay is "the small scale of production and the general inefficiency of the French defense sector, especially in comparison with Russia or the United States."

And this despite the fact that the military-industrial complex of France clearly "lifts up" the price tag. So, Rafale costs $ 240 million, while the American F-35A is 50% cheaper, and the Russian heavy-weight Su-30MKIs are offered at a cost several times lower.

This will probably undermine further purchases by Rafale, and India will instead seek to produce Russian MiG-35s of the 4 ++ generation in the same weight category and with comparable production licensing, but with much faster deliveries and at a much lower price

- concludes Military Watch.
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  1. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 1 July 2020 07: 12 New
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    This will probably undermine further purchases by Rafale, and India will instead seek to produce Russian MiG-35s of the 4 ++ generation in the same weight category and with comparable production licensing, but with much faster deliveries and at a much lower price

    - concludes Military Watch. And this will fly to the guardians for the "mistral" ... and on "honest" fellow
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 1 July 2020 08: 38 New
      +6
      already committed to delivering New Delhi as soon as possible S-400 air defense system
      So she didn’t seem to be obligated, but on the contrary, no? Who to believe, the American press or ours?

      https://topwar.ru/172598-dalnejshee-uskorenie-tehnicheski-nevozmozhno-indija-ne-poluchit-zrk-s-400-ranshe-namechennyh-srokov.html
      1. nPuBaTuP
        nPuBaTuP 1 July 2020 08: 49 New
        +2
        Maybe it meant that how to speed up the process, Russia did everything? .... and then wait ......
        1. Siberian54
          Siberian54 1 July 2020 18: 00 New
          +4
          In general, the conflict between China and Iran is categorically disadvantageous to us like the EU, because the only money-winner of this war is USA
      2. Pereira
        Pereira 1 July 2020 11: 17 New
        +4
        No one can be trusted. All shadow cast on the fence. And those who know are silent.
    2. Finches
      Finches 1 July 2020 09: 25 New
      +4
      The French as a whole have very expensive toys - they initially relied on the monarchs of the Persian Gulf, but the Indians need to think with their heads - they have problems with neighbors on different sides and is it worth it to overpay fabulous money? Another question is, should we go too far arming the Indians and straining Xi Jinping? However, it is necessary in any case to observe their interests - the same Chinese do not particularly suffer from allied obligations!
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 1 July 2020 09: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        but Indians need to think with their heads

        The brahmanas and ksatriyas do not care how much the weapon costs. The main thing is to shine beautifully.
        https://r4.mt.ru/r22/photo0938/20876377822-0/jpg/bp.jpeg
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 July 2020 10: 13 New
          -2
          This is what we are talking about!
      2. bayard
        bayard 1 July 2020 17: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Another question is, should we go too far arming the Indians and straining Xi Jinping?

        It’s worth it - it’s a balancer, a counterweight to China in Asia. And of course, this is beneficial to our defense industry.
        However, no one forbids China to buy weapons from us as opposed to India. They also started talking about the purchase of another batch of Su-35.
        1. Finches
          Finches 1 July 2020 19: 04 New
          +3
          Here you shift the emphasis from economic benefits to political preferences for our country, but making a face-face a hoe and selling both is profitable, but I’m afraid our natural mentality will not allow us - we are not Anglo-Saxons tea!
          1. bayard
            bayard 1 July 2020 21: 19 New
            +8
            Quote: Finches
            Here you shift the emphasis from economic benefits to political preferences for our country, but making a face-face a hoe and selling both is profitable, but I’m afraid our natural mentality will not allow us - we are not Anglo-Saxons tea!

            Yes, nothing has changed and will not change. As we sold weapons to India, we will continue to sell - this is our main buyer. And a considerable trading partner.
            Failure, and refusal right now, will be a direct betrayal and the greatest stupidity.
            India is clearly weaker than China. Especially China and Pakistan combined. So in this case, our moral qualities charge us not to leave without the help of the weakest.
            Now about China.
            Do you seriously consider this state to be our ally ?!
            Seriously ?
            What China has proved to us over the past 6-7 years.
            And for the whole history of our relationship?
            How many times has he betrayed us?
            And do not count!
            And in China, we are definitely not considered an ally.
            Read their periodicals, their textbooks, their documents.
            This is our trading partner ... But Germany is our good trading partner ... And Italy ... And Turkey ... And India.
            We have no moral restrictions.
            Especially in relation to China.
            Russia could help resolve this conflict if it really escalates ... But so far we see only funny Indian movies and "Kshatriyas" beaten with iron sticks. And more and more daring Chinians.
            We collect popcorn, watch the TV series "Somewhere high in the Himalayas" and ... sell weapons, because this is just a business.
            1. Finches
              Finches 1 July 2020 21: 31 New
              +3
              Perhaps I agree with you! hi
    3. Alex777
      Alex777 1 July 2020 11: 00 New
      0
      https://topwar.ru/172672-v-indii-francija-osuschestvit-postavku-neskolkih-istrebitelej-rafale-ranshe-oboznachennyh-srokov.html
    4. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 1 July 2020 17: 16 New
      -2
      Quote: Shiva83483
      This will likely undermine further purchases by Rafale, and India will instead seek to produce Russian aircraft MiG-35 generation "4 ++" in a similar weight category and with comparable production licensing,
      MiG-35, the Indians do not need to sell (!!) Americans sell mainly F-16 (F-18), but F-22 !!! No dumber than a steam train (!). First old for sale a NEW abundant MYSELF !!!. According to this, the SU-30 MKI and no more !!
      Quote: Finches
      Another question is, should we go too far arming the Indians and straining Xi Jinping?
      why not ?!.
      Quote: Finches
      However, the necessary in love case keep your interests
      yes !! because -
      Quote: Finches
      the same Chinese not particularly affected allied commitments!
      ... and let really, -
      Quote: bar
      China will slow down a bit in its expansion around the world and will not quickly fall under the pressure of itself, including the Russian economy.

      Quote: parusnik
      Surprisingly, the conflict began to smolder, "merchants of death" began to flock to it, and not "doves of peace" - mediators for a peaceful settlement of the conflict. War is a profitable business.
      Reply
      it always has been and always will be !!!
      1. bayard
        bayard 1 July 2020 17: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: Vl Nemchinov
        MiG-35, the Indians do not need to sell (!!). Americans sell mainly F-16 (F-18), but F-22 !!! No dumber than a steam locomotive (!). First, the old for sale and the NEW is in abundance for YOURSELF !!!. Therefore, the SU-30 MKI and nothing more !!

        The MiG-35 was created exactly as an export fighter - in the VKS they are not in a hurry to receive it. And there is nothing particularly secret and fundamentally new there. But India needs fighters of precisely this class - to replace the MiG-21. And they like them.
        In addition, a contract is being prepared for the modernization of the entire fleet of Indian Su-30s to the level of Su-35 (engines, radar, avionics) and, possibly, the purchase of a certain batch of Su-35 itself.
        It's good .
        And rightly so, from the point of view of the interests of India.
        So soon, and before the purchase of the Su-57E, it will come.
        And that is good too.
        1. Nemchinov Vl
          Nemchinov Vl 1 July 2020 19: 49 New
          -1
          Quote: bayard
          In addition, a contract is being prepared for the modernization of the entire fleet of Indian Su-30s to the level of Su-35 (engines, radar, avionics) and, possibly, the purchase of a certain batch of Su-35 itself.
          It's good .
          no, dear Vitaliy hi but whether abundant SU-35 in its VKS ?! Is it wise to rush into the sale of the most modern fighter ?!
          Quote: bayard
          And rightly so, from the point of view of the interests of India.
          belay and your interests ?!
          Quote: bayard
          So soon, and before the purchase of the Su-57E, it will come.
          Moreover, the SU-57 is still not abundant (!) ?! . America does not sell F-22, but sells - "yesterday's day", and in this case, they are not called fools (!).. yes Whoever is smart will be armed with the most advanced technology, another country, until the satiation of his Air Force (VKS). What if today's / permanent ally, tomorrow will be your situational rival ?! , and you first of all (in pursuit of foreign exchange earnings, today) rearmed not himself but him ? !! No.
          1. bayard
            bayard 1 July 2020 21: 54 New
            +2
            hi Greetings to Vladimir.
            Quote: Vl Nemchinov
            But is the SU-35 in abundance in its VKS ?! Is it wise to rush into the sale of the most modern fighter ?!

            Apparently the leadership of the Moscow Region and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief consider that enough. However, the second order for 48 Su-35s was still signed, but at the same time more than 10 units. they are not purchased per year.
            In addition, KB them. Sukhoi created her Su-35 precisely as an export aircraft (and how else, if she does not indulge her MO with orders) and it has already been delivered to China, Algeria (if I am not mistaken), delivery to Egypt has begun, and several more customers are in line.
            So why is India worse?
            What the MoD and the president are thinking about are not known to me, but I suspect that the fighter aircraft fleet has already been significantly updated, so the purchase of new aircraft is extremely limited. Nobody is apparently going to form new regiments, and there are no pilots for them ... And young guys are not in a hurry to go to flight schools - which has been accepted by ALL for a year, for whom health allows.
            And what were the competitions before in military aviation universities ...
            Quote: Vl Nemchinov
            Moreover, the SU-57 (!) ?! . America does not sell F-22

            Su-57 was originally developed in conjunction with India (with its co-financing), has already been offered to China, Algeria, Turkey (!!!) and everyone else.
            America does not sell its F-22s, but it does sell the latest F-35.
            To many.
            And the French are selling their Rafale.
            The more fighters we sell for export, the more of the same (but not exported) fighters our MO can buy (at the expense of income from the export arms tax).
  2. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 1 July 2020 07: 14 New
    +8
    The arms trade has been a lucrative business for thousands of years.
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 1 July 2020 07: 49 New
      +1
      For thousands of years, weapons were easier to take away, cracking on the head of its owner, the last 500 years and it’s profitable if you trade wisely.
    2. Private-K
      Private-K 1 July 2020 08: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: Pessimist22
      The arms trade has been a lucrative business for thousands of years.

      Yes, at least since the Bronze Age - 4 .4,5 thousand years ago.
  3. Avior
    Avior 1 July 2020 07: 14 New
    +5
    And India sell f-35a?
    It seems only f-21 offer.
    1. free_flier
      free_flier 1 July 2020 10: 37 New
      +1
      There just numbers for comparison showed ..., well, so that it was clear how much the fingers were spread apart and the bubbles from the snot were inflated.
      And about the Indians it is correctly written above that the main thing is to shine, and to spite you, if you have not moved up in price.
  4. Svetlana
    Svetlana 1 July 2020 07: 22 New
    +6
    As Military Watch (USA) notes, Moscow amid aggravation of border conflict with China Already committed to delivering New Delhi as soon as possible S-400 air defense system.In a similar, “emergency” mode, it is able to provide the Indian military with 33 MiG-29UPG and Su-30MKI fighters.


    There is some contradiction with the data of the Russian media, according to which India was refused acceleration
    fulfillment of the contract.
    IMHO or the newspaper lied or the author was mistaken.
    Here by the way the other day it was discussed: https://topwar.ru/172598-dalnejshee-uskorenie-tehnicheski-nevozmozhno-indija-ne-poluchit-zrk-s-400-ranshe-namechennyh-srokov.html
    1. venik
      venik 1 July 2020 08: 23 New
      +5
      Quote: Svetlana
      There is some contradiction with the data of the Russian media, according to which India was refused acceleration
      fulfillment of the contract.
      IMHO or the newspaper lied or the author was mistaken.

      =====
      And the newspaper not lied and author not wrong! You just inattentively read: "....36 Rafale aircraft cannot reach the customer for quite some time ........ Through four years after signing the first contract, India has not yet deployed a single operational squadron... ".
      A contract with India for the supply of S-400 entered into force (after making an advance) in November last year and should be fully implemented already next yearu !!! The difference catch? hi
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 1 July 2020 08: 37 New
        +2
        Moscow amid the aggravation of the border conflict with China already pledged to deliver New Delhi as soon as possible air defense systems S-400.V

        But Moscow, according to Ross Media, did not talk about the shortest possible time.
        1. nPuBaTuP
          nPuBaTuP 1 July 2020 08: 51 New
          +3
          That is, the difference between 4 years and the year does not matter? ..... It seems to me that the words "the shortest possible time" are exactly what they mean ....
        2. free_flier
          free_flier 1 July 2020 10: 42 New
          0
          Here, as BE, it means that delivering three dozen with a small aircraft in 4 years does not compare with the supply for the year of air defense armaments in an amount capable of simultaneously filling up three with a tail of hundreds of these same aircraft.
    2. businessv
      businessv 1 July 2020 09: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Svetlana
      There is some contradiction with the Russian media, according to which India was refused to accelerate the implementation of the contract.
      There is no mistake. Here we are talking about airplanes, and not about systems, for their detection and destruction. The article that you mention is about S-400, and not about SU-30MKI, or MIG-35.
  5. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 1 July 2020 07: 34 New
    +2
    China is being positioned, as yet, as a strategic friend ... and here the supply of shock systems to its direct opponent and, indeed, at an accelerated pace ... ??? So will it be sold or already refused? Or do they all lie like gray geldings?
    1. venik
      venik 1 July 2020 08: 31 New
      0
      Quote: viktor_ui
      China is positioned, as yet, as a strategic friend ...

      ========
      Not "friend"., But partner! The concept of "drugan" in politics is somehow devoid of meaning: "Britain has no permanent friendsnor permanent enemiesBritain has only permanent interests. "(Henry John Temple, Dlord Palmerston) request
      --------
      Quote: viktor_ui
      and here is the supply of shock systems to his direct opponent, yes yes, and at an accelerated pace ... ???

      ========
      And since when did the air defense systems become "shock" ??? request This is a purely defensive weapon! A multi-purpose aircraft - yes weapons at the same time and strike and defensive.
      1. viktor_ui
        viktor_ui 1 July 2020 09: 01 New
        0
        Let me doubt your answer ... that friend, that partner, type ally and other verbal delights, in politics, are deprived of their true semantic load (in the understanding of a normal person) ... for politics is involved in a giant financial whirlpool, which is -Sell with rare exceptions - when the allies go with you to the end no matter what. Now my answer to you is why I consider the S-400 to be an attack weapon ... if the system is able to cover and paralyze the enemy rear lines by several hundred km - then for me this is already a sign of the specialization of the system with a sharpened attack-defense. I personally would not like it if my friendly neighbor gave my opponent a bat during a friendly slap on the face - the neighbor would definitely come up.
        1. nickgv
          nickgv 1 July 2020 11: 59 New
          +2
          About how, twisted ... Since when are air defense systems offensive weapons? If ... then it’s possible - not counting. So, do not meddle hundreds of kilometers or closer, and these hundreds will not threaten you.
      2. nerd.su
        nerd.su 1 July 2020 09: 21 New
        0
        Quote: venik
        And since when did the air defense systems become "shock" ??? This is a purely DEFENSIVE weapon!

        words about purely defensive weapons are touching. Even with a shield you can not weakly jam, a helmet can be thrown, an opponent’s head can be put on the plate of the bib with sufficient strength and skill. What can we say about missiles with a range of 100-200 km. Some states almost completely cover such ranges.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 1 July 2020 15: 40 New
          +4
          "What can we say about missiles with a range of 100-200 km" ///
          ---
          It's not about range. And in the power of the warhead. It is small for air defense missiles. And as an offensive weapon on enemy territory, these missiles are ineffective.
          1. Charik
            Charik 1 July 2020 16: 24 New
            0
            on tanks, it’s obviously air defense missiles to no purpose, but for example, to destroy some kind of radar, this is already interesting
          2. nerd.su
            nerd.su 1 July 2020 21: 20 New
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            And as an offensive weapon on enemy territory, these missiles are ineffective.

            So why on the territory? And if one state immediately knocks down all military aircraft of another state from the border and to the entire depth of the air defense systems and begins to attack the ground under the cover of these systems - is this a defense or an attack?
    2. bar
      bar 1 July 2020 14: 39 New
      +1
      China is positioned, as yet, as a strategic friend ...

      This "friend" nevertheless did not hesitate to submit to US sanctions against us. Friendship is friendship, and tobacco apart ...
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 1 July 2020 07: 35 New
    +5
    Surprisingly, the conflict began to smolder, "merchants of death" began to flock to it, and not "doves of peace" - mediators for a peaceful settlement of the conflict. War is a profitable business.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 1 July 2020 07: 39 New
      +2
      And who do you think are the "doves of peace"?
    2. Doctor
      Doctor 1 July 2020 08: 14 New
      0
      Surprisingly, the conflict began to smolder, "merchants of death" began to flock to it, and not "doves of peace"

      And who do you think are the "doves of peace"?


      Yes, and who are the "death traders"?
  7. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 1 July 2020 08: 24 New
    +1
    The best option for the Hindus is to buy and fully master the Su30MKI and engage in its self-improvement. They have good relations with the Russian Federation and Israel and France. You can create and maintain a plane for a long time at the most modern level.
    1. bar
      bar 1 July 2020 14: 43 New
      +1
      Hindus have too high an opinion of themselves to do so. They need planes no less than 5+, and more quickly, for nothing, and for their own production.
  8. Polish jew
    Polish jew 1 July 2020 08: 46 New
    0
    Yes, now India doesn’t care about anything and the situation with the Rafales will be the same as with the Mistrals, the United States will tell us not to put it under the hood and have begun to comply, or maybe there has already been an unofficial decree to slow down the supplies of the Rafales.
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 1 July 2020 10: 04 New
      0
      It is unlikely as this will be of help to China.
  9. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 1 July 2020 09: 15 New
    0
    Interestingly, how many of the 240 million. Went to pocket officials in India. It is necessary to buy an airplane at a 3 times overpriced price. Well, they have kickbacks there.
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 1 July 2020 10: 07 New
      0
      This is with stocks of weapons, spare parts, ground equipment and personnel training with pilots. The planes themselves are a little cheaper.
  10. Doccor18
    Doccor18 1 July 2020 09: 22 New
    +2
    The Russian defense industry is able to fulfill orders of its foreign policy partners at an accelerated pace

    We can when we want, when the currency is visible. Still they would build at the same shock pace for their own army ...
  11. Russ
    Russ 1 July 2020 09: 28 New
    0
    another material with accusations against Russia, allegedly leading far from a "gentlemanly" game

    So I understand that they refer themselves exclusively to the "gentlemen" .... "white and fluffy" .... wassat
  12. KJIETyc
    KJIETyc 1 July 2020 10: 27 New
    0
    Quote: Attack aircraft
    Quote: parusnik
    Surprisingly, the conflict began to smolder, "merchants of death" began to flock to it, and not "doves of peace" - mediators for a peaceful settlement of the conflict. War is a profitable business.

    Vultures smell the profits and the mess of Alex, here you are right .. hi
    As if India and China did not bleed.
    We suggested that the Indians create a layered defense of air defense (expensive of course), but it’s reliable .. Russia is a guarantor of the security of any country, if we cooperate honestly and openly with us ..

    Does the Su-30 MKI or Su-30 MKK guarantee security in the clash between China and India? fool
  13. L-39NG
    L-39NG 1 July 2020 10: 46 New
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    I don’t understand what is in the editorial school of the Military Review or in the editorial software. For example, Today I open the OPINIONS section, there in the foreground is the article “Russia is fulfilling orders at an accelerated pace”: the US press on the supply of Russian weapons, I open ANALYTICS, there it is the same, I open ARMAMENT - the same. Reopened after 15 minutes - this article in the NEWS section has disappeared from other sections. And this is just one such case.
    Is this done to destroy enemy plans? Sarcasm.
  14. -ш-
    -ш- 1 July 2020 13: 13 New
    0
    them..se, so expensive for rafal?) it's fun there the French are fattening
  15. bar
    bar 1 July 2020 14: 22 New
    +1
    “Russia is fulfilling orders at an accelerated pace”

    It is necessary to envy silently laughing
  16. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 1 July 2020 15: 33 New
    0
    Well done OPK! But to my regret in individual industries ...
    Regional shipbuilding is not included in its "strong point". From something.
  17. Charik
    Charik 1 July 2020 16: 13 New
    0
    in the photo the first Mig with KABami 500?
  18. Charik
    Charik 1 July 2020 16: 15 New
    0
    Military Watch (USA) - Starbolos - regarding the quick delivery of the C400 to Indians
  19. Brigadier
    Brigadier 2 July 2020 00: 05 New
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    Well, at least we learned not to yawn and not to give profitable contracts to our competitors!
    good drinks
  20. Vdi73
    Vdi73 2 July 2020 08: 31 New
    -1
    Do airplanes arrive at Russian airspace forces at an accelerated pace?
  21. 948
    948 2 July 2020 11: 18 New
    -1
    It would be better to deliver the necessary equipment to people at an accelerated pace: cars, tractors, combines, machine tools, household appliances, etc., etc. !!!
  22. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 2 July 2020 11: 34 New
    0
    Obviously unfriendly step towards China - if this is not fake news.

    According to Military Watch (USA), Moscow, amid a worsening border conflict with China, has already committed itself to delivering New Delhi to the S-400 air defense system as soon as possible. In a similar, “emergency” mode, it is able to provide the Indian military with 33 MiG-29UPG and Su-30MKI fighters.


    Yes, yes - and then the same officials will tell tales about "strategic partnership with China".
  23. venaly
    venaly 2 July 2020 17: 59 New
    0
    Overseas are furious. Imagine if there were no Amer illegal sanctions, how many plus orders would be added.