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Kadyrov took the initiative for a "lifelong" presidency for Vladimir Putin

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The head of Chechnya actually decided to call a spade a spade in relation to the institution of the presidency in our country. Ramzan Kadyrov made a proposal for the "lifelong" election of Vladimir Putin as head of state. Kadyrov outlined his thoughts in the Telegram channel.


Ramzan Kadyrov:

I always say: we must elect Vladimir Putin as president for life. Today, who can replace him? There is no such political leader on a global scale.

At the same time, the head of Chechnya called for a vote on amendments to the Basic Law of the country of every Russian citizen.

Despite the ambiguity of Kadyrov’s proposal from the constitutional point of view, it must be recognized that the head of Chechnya, unlike many others, was honest and called things by their proper names. If “above” it is proposed to amend the Constitution, including for the so-called zeroing of the terms of the current head of state, then in fact it all comes down to a lifelong presidency for Vladimir Putin.

For obvious reasons, Kadyrov’s proposal will be widely discussed online. One reason for such a discussion may be that stories Russia (the USSR) already had “life-long” leaders, whose demise for the state often came “suddenly” and led to a sharp upsurge in the struggle for the tsar’s throne or for the chair of the general secretary among the representatives of the elites, and this is far from always in the interests of the state and its people.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 30 June 2020 19: 52 New
    80
    Kadyrov took the initiative for a "lifelong" presidency for Vladimir Putin

    What else to expect from Kadyrov .. Putin is the key to a good life .. for the Kadyrovs ..
    1. Alf
      Alf 30 June 2020 19: 55 New
      39
      Quote: Svarog
      Putin is the key to a good life .. for the Kadyrovs ..

      Not "good," but life in general.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 30 June 2020 20: 35 New
        32
        By AMENDMENTS to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the Presidents of the Russian Federation and 7 senators (i.e. members of the Council of the Federation of the Russian Federation) by decision of the president of the Russian Federation very nice LIFE warmly settled - pass LIFE into senators of the Federation Council. Namely

        Amendment 20) Article 95 shall be amended as follows:
        “Article 95 (Who is on the Federation Council)
        1. The Federal Assembly consists of two houses - Federation Council and the State Duma.
        2. The Federation Council consists of senators of the Russian Federation.
        The Federation Council includes:
        a) two representatives from each subject of the Russian Federation: one from the legislative (representative)
        and executive bodies of state power - for a term
        authority of the relevant authority;
        b) The President of the Russian Federation who has ceased to exercise his powers due to the expiration of his term in office or ahead of schedule in the event of his resignation - LIFETIME. The President of the Russian Federation, who has ceased to exercise his powers due to the expiration of his term in office or ahead of schedule in the event of his resignation, has the right to renounce the powers of the Senator of the Russian Federation;
        c) no more than 30 representatives of the Russian Federation, appointed by the President of the Russian Federation, of which no more than 7 can be appointed LIFE.
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 30 June 2020 23: 46 New
          -40
          Who do you work for, Tatyana?
          But in fact?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 00: 58 New
            30
            Quote: Tank jacket
            But in fact?

            But in fact, probably I must say thank you that the power is not yet inherited?
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 1 July 2020 04: 46 New
              21
              Quote: Tank jacket
              Who do you work for, Tatyana?
              But in fact?
              This is in fact!

              In my comment I have cited only an excerpt from the official document of the State Duma of the Russian Federation from the official website of the State Duma of the Russian Federation.
              Namely, this is what we, citizens of the Russian Federation, in the opinion of the State Duma of the Russian Federation really should vote on July 1, 2020!

              State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation
              Full text of constitutional amendments: what are we voting for?

              We publish the full text of the Law "On Amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation" "On improving the regulation of certain issues of the organization and functioning of public authority", which will be put to the vote
              News Section
              Date and time 14.03.2020/14/15, XNUMX:XNUMX

              Full text see .. - http://duma.gov.ru/news/48045/
              1. kris_67
                kris_67 1 July 2020 14: 05 New
                +5
                "must vote" - you have already voted in favor, you just don’t know about it yet. 86% are in favor.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 1 July 2020 14: 24 New
                  +4
                  Quote: kris_67
                  "must vote" - you have already voted in favor, you just don’t know about it yet. 86% are in favor.

                  Was in the morning on the site - voted. Koshgda went out together with his friend, then we were stopped by two girls who questioned all those who went to the polls who voted for what. They asked us too. I looked at their lists - there are simply overwhelming answers for.
                2. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 1 July 2020 15: 56 New
                  +3
                  Quote: kris_67
                  "must vote" - you have already voted in favor, you just don’t know about it yet. 86% are in favor.

                  Was in the morning on the site on July 21, 2020 - she voted. When I went out with my friend from the PS, we were stopped at the school door by two girls who were interviewing everyone who went from the PS to the porch of the school where the PS is located: who voted for what? They asked us too.
                  I looked at their reporting lists - and there were simply overwhelming answers for them. Well, about 40 pros and 5 pros on one sheet.
                  This is approximately 40 / (40 + 5) x 100% = 89% in favor. But this, however, by 11 o’clock in the morning.

                  I will not go into the details of my conversation with the girls (they said that they were not from Navalny) - I will say only one thing. It turned out that of the voters who voted, practically (of those who agreed to answer) no one knows about Amendment No. 20 of the State Duma of the Russian Federation to the Constitution of the Russian Federation - i.e. pr article 95 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, an excerpt from the text of which I cited in my commentary above. And no wonder. Namely.
                  Two weeks ago I read the Draft Amendments approved by the State Duma of the Russian Federation, and I have never heard on Radio Russia at least any mention of this amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation!

                  Hence the voting results! I think that they - these voting results will be completely reliable.
            2. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 1 July 2020 09: 42 New
              +7
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Tank jacket
              But in fact?

              But in fact, probably I must say thank you that the power is not yet inherited?

              Duc, not yet
              evening! "..." At the request of the working people, "tomorrow" may appear!
            3. aglet
              aglet 1 July 2020 14: 14 New
              +2
              But in fact, I probably have to say thank you for the fact that they have not yet handed over the power to them? "
              but in fact, a little bit left, right now they will vote, and yeah
          2. Stalllker
            Stalllker 1 July 2020 21: 51 New
            -6
            She doesn’t work, they send her a text and she and her "comrades-in-arms" post everywhere.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 1 July 2020 08: 14 New
          12
          Tatyana! What are we all looking at in detail? They are ALL above and a little lower perfectly settled on the neck of the people.
          1. Stalllker
            Stalllker 1 July 2020 21: 52 New
            0
            And in what country is power not sitting on the neck of the people?
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 2 July 2020 10: 25 New
              +1
              She didn’t sit in the USSR, Stalllker.
              1. Stalllker
                Stalllker 2 July 2020 16: 12 New
                0
                Oh, come on ?!)))) But at the expense of all sorts of secretaries of the regional committees, district committees, etc., shone before each other with scales that they fulfilled or exceeded the plan?
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral 2 July 2020 16: 26 New
                  -2
                  Trifle pot-bellied ones, when compared with these. And under Stalin they didn’t shine very much, it went with decomposition in the 70s and beyond.
                  1. Stalllker
                    Stalllker 2 July 2020 16: 51 New
                    -1
                    And why did you decide that I'm a little pot-bellied thing?)))) I have a height of 180+, weight 90+)))))) do you write the size of the end?)))) My children are quite old, so the barrel
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral 2 July 2020 17: 17 New
                      0
                      Calm down, Stalllker, and there’s nothing to be rude about. Or are you from the former that shone? Then do not be offended.
                      1. Stalllker
                        Stalllker 2 July 2020 18: 45 New
                        -2
                        I don’t understand what you are writing about. Use terminology in your circle
                      2. NordUral
                        NordUral 2 July 2020 18: 59 New
                        0
                        I will not bore you anymore. I answer your attacks and only. I won’t do it anymore, in VO quite understandable and not poking strangers.
              2. aglet
                aglet 3 July 2020 09: 06 New
                0
                "and at the expense of all sorts of secretaries of the regional committees, district committees, etc., shone before each other with scales that they fulfilled or exceeded the plan?"
                those who overfulfilled these plans also had different sweets — higher salaries, bonuses, free apartments and cars, sanatorium vouchers. not only secretaries "in chocolate" were
      2. Sancho_SP
        Sancho_SP 1 July 2020 10: 17 New
        +3
        For life in the senate? Oh howl, where was it already ...
    2. Guru
      Guru 30 June 2020 20: 35 New
      37
      Not "good," but life in general.
      It is GOOD, so much money that swelled into Chechnya. And what is not in Smolensk or Kirov ????
      1. Eskobar
        Eskobar 30 June 2020 20: 42 New
        14
        If only roads in the Kirov region would be done
        1. Alf
          Alf 30 June 2020 21: 03 New
          20
          Quote: Eskobar
          If only roads in the Kirov region would be done

          What for ? Do you need to build a road in Skolkovo? Do you already have it? So it's time to repair.
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 30 June 2020 21: 08 New
          +8
          Quote: Eskobar
          If only roads in the Kirov region would be done

          Dreamer wink . But "+" to you.
          If only they would have allowed us to make roads at our own expense without sucking the last juices into the federal budget.
          1. Civil
            Civil 30 June 2020 21: 50 New
            0
            Well, as this is already a fact. I did not see any dissatisfied. Potatoes probably spud.
            1. Alena Frolovna
              Alena Frolovna 30 June 2020 23: 01 New
              -41
              «Down with» screaming is easiestBut this is the slogan of destruction.
              Life is being built not destruction, but building up.

              Let the one who does not want Putin to be in power show his candidate for supreme power, completely independent of external forces, popular in law enforcement agencies, and having international authority ... We have a laugh.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 01: 02 New
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                Quote: Alena Frolovna
                having international authority ...

                Yeah ... Putin had a lot of international authority ... Or Trump, Clinton, Khrushchev, etc., before they became at the helm.
              2. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 1 July 2020 03: 49 New
                28
                Quote: Alena Frolovna
                Have a good laugh.

                Yes, we are tired of watching you “laugh” over the citizens of Russia for 20 years, not knowing what muck it is for them to invent ...
                I will lower you to the ground and poke my nose at the reason for the statement of Mr. Sa ... Ah! What a respected person in Russia!
                About the republican budget for 2020 and for the planning period 2021 and 2022 (as amended on February 28, 2020)
                LAW OF THE CHECHEN REPUBLIC
                dated December 16, 2019 N 61-РЗ
                About the republican budget for 2020 and for the planning period 2021 and 2022
                (as amended by the Law of the Chechen Republic of 28.02.2020 N 12-РЗ)
                .
                1. To approve the main characteristics of the republican budget for 2020, determined on the basis of a projected inflation rate not exceeding 3,0 percent (December 2020 to December 2019):
                1) the projected total revenue of the republican budget in the amount of 91799492,5 тыс. rubles, including gratuitous receipts in the amount of 77836544,8 тыс. rubles, tax and non-tax revenues in the amount of 13962947,7 thousand rubles;

                Any phenomenon has financial roots ... yes
                OH, ALREADY THESE NON-MAGNIFICENT (i.e. DARMOUS) ARRIVALS ... wassat
              3. NordUral
                NordUral 1 July 2020 08: 16 New
                +1
                Why down? Let it go according to the law, if we still have it.
                And in his place there will be more than one candidate who can lead Russia on a righteous path.
              4. shtatsov
                shtatsov 1 July 2020 09: 05 New
                +3
                Or maybe you need to select and cook a shift? Then maybe something will change in life! Seething over the vote on constitutional amendments, they are not from the fact that everything is good! But because the population sees that the state system is not working. Social injustice. Lack of worker protection. People want change for the better.
                So it was before the 90s.
              5. RwFanat_Kirov
                RwFanat_Kirov 1 July 2020 10: 31 New
                +2
                Thanks to Putin, Russia has no allies in the world at all. The whole world looks at us like monkeys with a grenade. The idea of ​​elections is completely discredited. Only the blind cannot see this.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 1 July 2020 11: 16 New
                  +5
                  Thanks to Putin, Russia has no allies in the world at all.

                  Alexander III:
                  Russia has only two allies - its army and navy

                  All other "allies" are too expensive. bully
                  Lord Palmer:
                  We have no permanent allies, we have no eternal enemies. Only our interests are unchanging and eternal, and our duty is to follow them.

                  So it was and will be. Is always.
              6. ximkim
                ximkim 1 July 2020 16: 01 New
                +4
                Quote: Alena Frolovna
                «Down with» screaming is easiestBut this is the slogan of destruction.
                Life is being built not destruction, but building up.

                Let the one who does not want Putin to be in power show his candidate for supreme power, completely independent of external forces, popular in law enforcement agencies, and having international authority ... We have a laugh.

                Everything is just fun. Soon everything will be fine, probably..but I hope that those who supported the amendments will receive what they ticked off .. And at the expense of the candidate, soon there will be heirs, the candidates are no longer needed lol "Borjomi did not want the kidneys to be healthy." ..
        3. sanja.grw
          sanja.grw 1 July 2020 06: 44 New
          0
          To be honest, I’m also for good roads, but so that they aren’t built by crankshafts, otherwise they get it with their repairs every year
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 1 July 2020 08: 17 New
            +2
            They are not crooked, they are very hardworking.
      2. Stalllker
        Stalllker 30 June 2020 22: 25 New
        -29
        There are chapters in Kirov and Smolensk, so go and ask them. Where are Putin, Smolensk, Kadyrov and Kirov ?! I don’t see the connection
        1. mdsr
          mdsr 30 June 2020 22: 43 New
          12
          Quote: Stalllker
          I don’t see the connection

          Not surprised. And so long ago it’s clear about people like you smile
          1. Stalllker
            Stalllker 30 June 2020 22: 48 New
            -25
            As well as about you and people like you
      3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 30 June 2020 22: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Guru
        so much money swelled into Chechnya

        How many? You move away from the "Terrible City" to the suburbs, and it’s better to jam in the remote villages. The people live poorly, with a rare exception, as usual. The picture is the same as in other remote corners of our homeland.
        1. shtatsov
          shtatsov 1 July 2020 09: 09 New
          +3
          I do not know how in the distant. I drove through Chechnya 3 years ago from Mozdok-Grozny and back. There are all brick houses. From a good home to a luxury mansion. Pimped did not see!
          1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
            Boris ⁣ Shaver 1 July 2020 10: 06 New
            +1
            Quote: shtatsov
            Pimped did not see!

            Ruined houses, they are mainly in those villages where people abandon their homes and reach cities. Remain the old and wrecked. And in that region - people live in villages.
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 1 July 2020 11: 24 New
            0
            I drove through Chechnya 3 years ago from Mozdok-Grozny and back. There are all brick houses.

            I was born and raised in the Caucasus. I’ll tell you a secret - there all houses are stone or brick. Wooden did not build. In any case, I did not see them. All forests were planted in the 20th century or unsuitable for construction.
            Even in abandoned villages, where there are no longer residents, houses are stone. hi
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 1 July 2020 14: 00 New
              -1
              Quote: Alex777
              I was born and raised in the Caucasus. I’ll tell you a secret - there all houses are stone or brick. Wooden did not build. In any case, I did not see them. All forests were planted in the 20th century or unsuitable for construction.
              Even in abandoned villages, where there are no longer residents, houses are stone.

              And do not build from adobe?
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 1 July 2020 14: 17 New
                0
                There is no adobe in the mountains. And stones - as many as you want. wink
                Cossacks built on the plains. Local - did not see.
            2. blackice
              blackice 2 July 2020 06: 56 New
              0
              Approx.
              Wood is not suitable.
              The question is, what does Chechnya produce, that people receive such income for brick construction?
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 2 July 2020 12: 04 New
                0
                The average salary in the Caucasus is 15000 rubles.
                Cost of construction - you understand ...
                1. blackice
                  blackice 6 July 2020 02: 45 New
                  0
                  From here and the question - what are they building on?
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 6 July 2020 10: 47 New
                    0
                    Paraphrase the answer. smile
                    How did migrants from Central Asia, receiving 50 rubles, manage to live in Moscow themselves with this money, and keep families in their homeland, and build houses in their homeland?
                    True, they succeeded when the rate was 30 rubles for $.
                    Those houses that interest you at about the same time were built, or even earlier. hi
                    1. blackice
                      blackice 12 July 2020 09: 05 New
                      0
                      While studying in Central Asia during the Soviet era, I saw why those who were not big bosses build houses there.
                      The tale of the three piglets remember? So there they built houses like pigs. From there the expression went - to build from shit and sticks (duvalyak).
                      The frame is made of hoist and poplar, the gaps between the logs are filled with clay bars called duvalyak.

                      So your example is not correct.
                      Find another explanation for brick houses.
                      PySy. No need to think that everything around is idiots.
              2. aglet
                aglet 3 July 2020 09: 13 New
                0
                146% of the vote, is that not enough?
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 21: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
          The picture is the same as in other remote corners of our homeland.

          Boris, buy a garden plot in not remote corners of our Motherland. Just for 40-50 thousand. Sell, mother do not worry.
      4. aglet
        aglet 1 July 2020 14: 16 New
        0
        “It is GOOD, so much money was swelled into Chechnya. And what not to Smolensk or Kirov ????
        or not in Voronezh? how to bomb, so Voronezh, as money, so to Chechnya
        1. blackice
          blackice 2 July 2020 07: 00 New
          0
          Something I did not see partisans in Voronezh. And the inhabitants of Voronezh did not go to neighboring cities with the aim of robbing.
          All the smart people speak for the bombed Chechnya, but not a single one spoke about the essence of the outbreak of war.
          Just do not sing about the mythical oil pipeline, or not discovered oil fields.
    3. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 June 2020 21: 00 New
      12
      Quote: Alf
      Quote: Svarog
      Putin is the key to a good life .. for the Kadyrovs ..

      Not "good," but life in general.

      And for Putin himself, the lifelong presidency is
      a guarantee against life on plank beds within the life of those released from above.
    4. Overlock
      Overlock 30 June 2020 23: 48 New
      17
      Quote: Alf
      Not "good," but life in general.

      if you think about it, then the fate of Kadyrov after Putin is fog. So no one will feed it like GDP. Yes, and impunity will end
    5. AUL
      AUL 1 July 2020 06: 22 New
      12
      Quote: Alf
      Not "good," but life in general.

      About a year and a half ago, he was the first to offer zeroing. I then wrote that this will continue after some time. And now - get it, sign it ...
      So in a year (or even less), another very deserved senile name-bearer will come out of the high rostrum with a new legislative initiative, and get ready to amend the constitution again ...
  2. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 01 New
    -44
    and what’s wrong with that? Putin tamed him. can one of your leaders reassure Chechnya? where were they when the war was going on there? collective farms raised?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 30 June 2020 20: 04 New
      37
      Quote: carstorm 11
      and what’s wrong with that? Putin tamed him. can one of your leaders reassure Chechnya? where were they when the war was going on there? collective farms raised?

      You are a German .. from Germany broadcasting? I noticed all the true putreots for some reason abroad ..
      can one of your leaders reassure Chechnya?

      And from yours?
      Chechnya was calm even under the USSR, and before that it was regularly reassured .. so don’t worry .. they will calm or calm ..
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 05 New
        -26
        So. Stop. I am German. but I do not live in Germany. Do you know the Russian diaspora of the Germans is quite large. Of my Putin, the war ended. Any objections to this? Do you know the history of your country?
        1. venik
          venik 30 June 2020 20: 48 New
          -30
          Quote: carstorm 11
          Do you know the history of your country?

          ========
          The history of Ukraine? Svarog knows ..... Maybe ..... In the modern interpretation ..... request
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 55 New
            -15
            Yes, who would argue)
        2. maiman61
          maiman61 30 June 2020 20: 54 New
          -14
          Stop! You would shut your mouth with your diaspora!
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 56 New
            +2
            what are you?))) what other wishes will there be? another hamlo crawled out)
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 1 July 2020 11: 29 New
              -2
              Hold on! wink
        3. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 47 New
          -3
          I put cons for the fact that I am German) shikardos)
          1. AUL
            AUL 1 July 2020 06: 32 New
            17
            Quote: carstorm 11
            I put cons for being German

            No, for being black! laughing Where did you get this Negro excuse? Cons you catch for your statements!
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 1 July 2020 06: 42 New
              -9
              it’s not only in this topic, so it’s not only for the statements.)
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 1 July 2020 11: 30 New
            +1
            Not a minus of misfortune. smile
        4. Trotil42
          Trotil42 1 July 2020 05: 07 New
          +9
          Quote: carstorm 11
          So. Stop. I am German. but I do not live in Germany. Do you know the Russian diaspora of the Germans is quite large. Of my Putin, the war ended. Any objections to this? Do you know the history of your country?

          And who won? If Russia pays tribute there?
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 1 July 2020 06: 43 New
            -2
            tribute? OK. I personally call it security investments. We will each differ in our opinion.
            1. mdsr
              mdsr 1 July 2020 07: 00 New
              0
              Quote: carstorm 11
              tribute? OK. I personally call it security investments. everyone will be in our opinion

              I put you a plus. It turns out that in the history books the tribute (yasak) that Russia paid during the 250-year-old Tatar-Mongol yoke should simply be written with investments in security. Bravo good
              1. ultra
                ultra 1 July 2020 10: 57 New
                +2
                Russia did not pay tribute, it became part of the Genghisides empire and paid the so-called "exit", that is, a tax that amounted to about 4% of revenues.
                Quote: mdsr
                It turns out that in the history textbooks, the tribute (yasak) that Russia paid during the 250-year-old Tatar-Mongol yoke should simply be written with investments in security.
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 1 July 2020 11: 37 New
              0
              The gift to understand causes and effects is not given to everyone. smile
              The "Wild Division" of the Highlanders, in WWI, personally the Emperor’s brother commanded.
              Such respect was given. They really appreciated it.
              EMNIP did not conduct drill exercises with them.
              And how they fought - anyone can find information.
              1. aglet
                aglet 3 July 2020 09: 23 New
                0
                Quote: Alex777
                And how they fought - anyone can find information.

                were especially glorified by the robberies of civilians. and it was not only highlanders — Tekinians were never highlanders, and mountaineers are different — Georgians and Armenians are not Dagestanis at all. yes, and for a long time it was already overgrown with grass. You better remember the formation of the Chechen cavalry division in 1941. it is much closer to our realities, and more documents have been preserved until. you can find out how they fought. and extrapolate to reality by comparing causes and effects
            3. aglet
              aglet 1 July 2020 14: 23 New
              0
              "tribute? approx. I personally call it an investment in security. We will each differ in our opinion."
              in whose safety is the investment? the units of Kadyrov’s militants will keep the runway at Sheremetyevo, on which board No. 1 will take off? Is this an investment?
        5. blackice
          blackice 2 July 2020 07: 03 New
          0
          Finished?
          Well yes. By paying annual indemnities.
      2. The black
        The black 30 June 2020 20: 21 New
        +8
        .... and then immediately to the mausoleum repeat
        1. Стена
          Стена 30 June 2020 20: 42 New
          +5
          Did not deserve
        2. Simargl
          Simargl 1 July 2020 06: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: Black
          .... and then immediately to the mausoleum
          Maybe then the plywood will cease to cover?
      3. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 30 June 2020 20: 43 New
        -6
        Quote: Svarog
        Chechnya was calm under the USSR and before that it was regularly reassured .. so don’t worry .. they will calm or calm

        Was it calm? I walked in those mountains. They showed me the ruins of the children's tuberculosis sanatorium, which the Chechens CUT TO before the Germans arrived. There was something to evict them for ... and when they were returned, hefty Chechen guys walked along the Moscow-Grozny train and sat down to the passengers, told how they offended them ... It was not an easy task to reconcile them. And Putin dealt with it ... I would have looked, who would have done the same without cutting Chechnya without exception ...
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 45 New
          -9
          they will not understand this. there is a struggle with the regime. they don’t care.
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 30 June 2020 20: 53 New
          32
          Was it calm? I walked in those mountains


          What time period are you talking about now? I'm talking about the times of the USSR. In 1970, 329 tons of Russians lived in Chechnya, which is 36% of the total population, now less than 1% live there ... So whose Chechnya and who measured whom? Maybe they just squeezed it out?
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 1 July 2020 11: 53 New
            -1
            You just don’t know anything about the Caucasus.
            А Mountain shooter (Eugene) - correctly writes.
            The Germans, during the occupation of the North Caucasus, for the killed Germans promised 10 Chechens to be executed, for the killed Russian - 5.
            This was a response to the request of the Chechens to the German command "to resolve the Russian question." So it was.
            Russians on those lands appeared after deportation.
            And the return of the repressed people to occupied homes brought the long-standing conflict to a new level.
            It’s useless to look for who was right then and who was to blame.
            The main thing is how we will continue to live together. This is a serious question.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 1 July 2020 15: 05 New
              -1
              Quote: Alex777
              Russians on those lands appeared after deportation.

              But what about the Terek Cossacks, it appeared there “much earlier” than the deportation of Chechens.
              Quote: Alex777
              You just don’t know anything about the Caucasus.

              You would at least look at Wikipedia, "a connoisseur of the Caucasus."
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 1 July 2020 22: 50 New
                0
                But what about the Terek Cossacks, it appeared there “much earlier” than the deportation of Chechens.

                I myself am from the Terek Cossacks. lol
          2. aglet
            aglet 1 July 2020 16: 44 New
            +1
            "In 1970, 329 tons of Russians lived in Chechnya, which is 36% of the total population, now less than 1% live there ... So whose Chechnya and who measured whom? Maybe they just squeezed it out.?"
            no, comrade, cut out
        3. Grim Reaper
          Grim Reaper 30 June 2020 21: 20 New
          10
          Well what to say. My father was very offended by the Chechens. He told me that during the occupation of the Krasnodar Territory. (I have him born 28) Almost all went to the police. But I came across Chechens (well, so as to live together, and not a hats acquaintance) Only once, on an urgent basis, 86g
          Two brothers, quite normal guys, on my mind, cockroaches in the head were of course, but acceptable.
        4. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 21: 33 New
          15
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Pausing them was not an easy task. And Putin dealt with her ...

          What? Whom did he make peace?
        5. aglet
          aglet 1 July 2020 14: 26 New
          0
          "I would have looked, who would have done the same without cutting out Chechnya without exception ..."
          "maybe because of the ruins of the children's tuberculosis sanatorium, which the Chechens cut out before the Germans approached." and they had to be cut? rather than pretending to be at war?
      4. venik
        venik 30 June 2020 20: 45 New
        -15
        Quote: Svarog
        You are a German .. from Germany broadcasting?

        ========
        Who are you? It seems like a Ukrainian. Broadcast from Ukraine?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 30 June 2020 20: 57 New
          19
          Quote: venik
          Quote: Svarog
          You are a German .. from Germany broadcasting?

          ========
          Who are you? It seems like a Ukrainian. Broadcast from Ukraine?

          No, I'm broadcasting Russian from Tatarstan
      5. maiman61
        maiman61 30 June 2020 20: 53 New
        -7
        All the dirt went abroad! And they dare to open their mouths.
      6. Machito
        Machito 30 June 2020 21: 58 New
        24
        I would suggest going even further than Tereshkova and Kadyrov and amending the Constitution of the Russian Federation on the appointment of Putin as the Immortal President of the Russian Federation, as Kashchei, so that he could reign and indulge us slaves not reasonable from paradise even after death.
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 30 June 2020 22: 25 New
          10
          Quote: Bearded
          amend the Constitution of the Russian Federation on the appointment of Putin as the Immortal President of the Russian Federation, as Kashchei,

          So then, Putin himself is not needed. Draw a 3D picture, as Pelevin wrote twenty years ago.
          Stop, maybe it’s already like that ???? belay belay belay
    2. snake
      snake 30 June 2020 20: 12 New
      +9
      Quote: carstorm 11
      and what’s wrong with that? Putin tamed him.

      To paraphrase: Give me a suitcase of money and I will move the earth.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 13 New
        -9
        and? Yeltsin also had a suitcase. What didn’t give?
        1. snake
          snake 30 June 2020 20: 15 New
          -1
          Quote: carstorm 11
          Yeltsin also had a suitcase. What didn’t give?

          Greedy or stupid.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 19 New
            -14
            or maybe they didn’t take it? why freaked out?
            1. snake
              snake 30 June 2020 20: 27 New
              +8
              There is an opinion that it was possible to agree with Dudaev. But where is Yeltsin, and where is diplomacy?
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 28 New
                -10
                Does this somehow change the fact that Putin is the one who ended the war?
                1. snake
                  snake 30 June 2020 20: 31 New
                  0
                  Does anyone dispute this?
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 36 New
                    -15
                    you are not. the fighters for our future are now aroused. will put a bunch of cons and yapping.
                    1. Gardamir
                      Gardamir 30 June 2020 21: 24 New
                      14
                      yapping.
                      It’s possible to yap. He finished the war, so Chechnya got everything for which it fought. Speaking of money, there is also oil in Kazan, but the Bohats are Chechens. And they behave in such a way that the country is already a Chechen Federation.
                    2. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 32 New
                      -1
                      is everything straight? well, let's remember together what Dudaev wanted for example. It was about creating a kind of “Commonwealth of states and peoples of the Great Caucasus”, which should have been ready for a clash with the metropolis-Russia. done?
                  2. a.hamster55
                    a.hamster55 30 June 2020 22: 13 New
                    -21
                    And Putin, as president, is suitable for me, and no alternative can be seen even with diopters. It was under Putin that I received decent housing for free, had a decent job in my specialty, and now I have a decent pension. Uncle Veteran of the Second World War residing in on receives 4 times less.
                  3. Aag
                    Aag 1 July 2020 04: 50 New
                    +6
                    You can be happy for you. But the problem is that there are fewer and fewer of them.
                  4. Nicknt
                    Nicknt 1 July 2020 05: 01 New
                    +5
                    Is there a policeman? Oh well
                  5. AUL
                    AUL 1 July 2020 06: 39 New
                    +9
                    Quote: a.hamster55
                    It was under Putin that I received decent housing for free, had a decent job in my specialty, and now I have a decent pension.

                    MP? wassat
                  6. a.hamster55
                    a.hamster55 1 July 2020 07: 58 New
                    +2
                    How did you guess Alexander? My wife more and more often chooses me as a deputy for going to the store, it’s hard for her to carry packages. He served as an officer in the Air Force. Then he worked until 60. Now he is a pensioner. Envy or interest what?
                  7. Rzzz
                    Rzzz 1 July 2020 09: 31 New
                    +4
                    With all due respect to you, as an officer, but not you are an indicator of the economic efficiency of the state.
                    And another pensioner - worked all his life in a completely non-military production. And not related to the commodity economy. So when an employee of each, relatively speaking, pencil factory, can boast of the same successes, then it will be possible to say about an efficient economy. In the meantime, the government is struggling to rake in money for those industries that are needed for it, power, and stability. At the same time, money is being raked from other industries, and even that is not enough, you have to plug holes. (pension reform, lower pensions, higher taxes, etc.).
              2. NordUral
                NordUral 1 July 2020 08: 31 New
                +4
                It was under Putin I got decent housing for free , had a decent job by profession and now have a decent pension. Uncle WWII veteran residing in on gets 4 times less.

                You live in parallel Russia, and your uncle is in the Russian Federation.
              3. a.hamster55
                a.hamster55 1 July 2020 08: 52 New
                +1
                It seems that the registration address is not parallel. Well, okay, so I already invented the intermediate cartridge, the commander’s turret on the T-34 and now with Lavrenty Pavlovich we are creating a long loaf. Is everything right now? But the uncle an officer and a veteran of the Second World War still lives in.
              4. NordUral
                NordUral 1 July 2020 08: 56 New
                -1
                Then I’ll tell you that the apartment was not given to you by Putin, but by Soviet law, which Putin does not dare to cancel yet.
                And I was mistaken, you do not quite live in parallel, but partially in the past, the Soviet one.
              5. a.hamster55
                a.hamster55 1 July 2020 09: 29 New
                -1
                Yes, you were wrong again. I got the apartment not according to Soviet laws, but according to the law of the Russian Federation and signed specifically by Putin. I do not feel any nostalgia for Soviet times, but I live in the present. Maybe I stand out only because I do not drink on Fridays, but only on holidays.
              6. NordUral
                NordUral 1 July 2020 09: 55 New
                0
                I got the apartment not according to Soviet laws, but according to the law of the Russian Federation and signed specifically by Putin.

                No, Anatoly, in Soviet. Just until Putin and his accomplices did not dare to cancel it. And you can cling on.
              7. Alex777
                Alex777 1 July 2020 12: 03 New
                +1
                Evgeny! Not ashamed? wink
                Anatoly knows better than you what law he received.
                Does his story spoil the picture for you? hi
              8. NordUral
                NordUral 1 July 2020 12: 16 New
                0
                No, people just have a short memory.
              9. Alex777
                Alex777 1 July 2020 12: 23 New
                0
                I can not agree. You did not ask the name of the law?
                Anatoly will send you. And you will know that something good is happening now. Why refuse this?
              10. NordUral
                NordUral 1 July 2020 12: 30 New
                +1
                Now in the country this is happening - the circus left, but the clowns remained. Whether it’s good or bad is up to everyone to decide. For a week, today is the ending of this booth.
              11. Alex777
                Alex777 1 July 2020 13: 02 New
                0
                My mom is 90 years old.
                He looks at everything that is happening and says: these people do not understand at all what it is like to live badly. hi
              12. NordUral
                NordUral 1 July 2020 13: 09 New
                +2
                Have I ever said that I have a bad life? I say that the power in our country is vile and deceitful.
                I wish your mother to live up to 100 with a tail!
              13. Alex777
                Alex777 1 July 2020 14: 14 New
                0
                No, people just have a short memory.

                Have I ever said that I have a bad life?

                Ungrateful you. wink
                I’ll tell mom, thank you. hi
              14. NordUral
                NordUral 1 July 2020 14: 22 New
                +2
                Grateful - to their ancestors, teachers, teachers, the USSR! I have nothing to thank for these. All my luck and failure is my personal.
  3. Alex777
    Alex777 1 July 2020 12: 09 New
    0
    Yes, you were wrong again.

    Stamps prevent colleagues from perceiving facts. smile
    The paradox is that revolutions are arranged by people who live well, but do not appreciate it. They begin to appreciate how well they lived when everything is completely destroyed.
    We have examples in full view. But reminding them is not fashionable. hi
  • Overlock
    Overlock 30 June 2020 23: 50 New
    +9
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Does this somehow change the fact that Putin is the one who ended the war?

    finished or bought? As they say in Odessa, these are two big differences
  • ZAV69
    ZAV69 30 June 2020 23: 13 New
    0
    And here I heard somewhere that Dudaev was actually forced to go not a mutiny of a leader from Yeltsin’s entourage. And previously they supplied Chechnya with weapons and ammunition. But the riots from scratch are not started. He worked with one comrade, so he took his legs from Chechnya in the year 90, told me that it was kind of calm, but they began to squeeze the Russians out of posts and normal jobs.
    1. snake
      snake 30 June 2020 23: 59 New
      +7
      It would be nice if Putin raised the archives not only during WWII, but also what is more modern. Those who brewed this porridge are still alive.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 1 July 2020 12: 18 New
        -1
        Those who brewed this porridge are still alive.

        Who are you talking about?
        1. snake
          snake 1 July 2020 16: 36 New
          -1
          About those who had a hand in this conflict.
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 1 July 2020 12: 16 New
      -1
      And here I heard somewhere that Dudaev was actually forced to go not a mutiny of a leader from Yeltsin’s entourage.

      With a weak ruler, such people always appear.
      They create conflicts, and then they push themselves at their cost.
      B. Berezovsky was doing exactly that as Deputy Chairman of the Security Council.
      All of his hostage ransom operations were a cover for financing militants.
      He paid for the invasion of Dagestan by meeting with Basayev in France. hi
      He hoped that he could manage and GDP. But it didn’t work out.
    3. aglet
      aglet 1 July 2020 14: 32 New
      +1
      “He worked with one comrade, so he took his feet from Chechnya in the year 90, told me that it was kind of calm, but they began to squeeze the Russians out of posts and normal jobs.”
      not just squeeze, just cut, especially the elderly and the lonely
      1. ZAV69
        ZAV69 1 July 2020 14: 35 New
        +2
        It started a bit later. He had time before
  • aglet
    aglet 1 July 2020 14: 30 New
    +1
    why did you have to negotiate with him? you just had to knock on the head, and not pretend that you are fighting
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 21: 35 New
    0
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Yeltsin was also a suitcase. What didn’t give?

    He wanted to take it. Yet.
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 41 New
    -17
    why put the cons? let's words. ) some balabol and anonymous but damn revolutionaries)
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 30 June 2020 20: 49 New
      26
      Quote: carstorm 11
      why put the cons? let's words. ) some balabol and anonymous but damn revolutionaries)

      Dmitry, I am impressed with what passion you protect your idol. But Ivan 3, saved Russia from the horde, and the previous ones paid tribute .. That's what I need, you can agree with everyone for money .. But it’s harder to see Russian laws working in Chechnya .. You know a lot of people who want to buy property in Chechnya? Not? And why? Would you buy it yourself?
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 52 New
        -21
        he is not my idol. and he won’t. But unlike your leaders, he at least ended the war.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 30 June 2020 20: 59 New
          13
          Quote: carstorm 11
          he is not my idol. and he won’t. But unlike your leaders, he at least ended the war.

          What specific leaders are you talking about now?
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 03 New
            -22
            the communists. socialists. balabol. without exception. for some reason they arise when everything is calm.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 30 June 2020 21: 14 New
              31
              Quote: carstorm 11
              the communists. socialists. balabol. without exception. for some reason they arise when everything is calm.

              You can see very young .. The communists and socialists managed to create the most powerful empire, with the most advanced science, won the Second World War and built the first fair society in the world .. and gave the Germans the opportunity to live, multiply and develop .. and you appeared thanks to the communists .. So why do you hate them so fiercely?
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 17 New
                -20
                And overslept her. I hate them. I sometimes feel sorry for them.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 30 June 2020 21: 23 New
                  17
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  And overslept her. I hate them. I sometimes feel sorry for them.

                  Who overslept?
                  And for what you hate the Communists .. you see your family history was unpleasant, given that you are a German .. but in this case you need to hate Hitler .. and where are the Communists? But it’s especially strange how hatred and pity coexist in you .. strange in general you .. hi
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 27 New
                    -16
                    okstits) what are you talking about? I repeat, I'm sorry for them. overslept a huge country. all lost. no hatred. at all. one pity
                  2. Svarog
                    Svarog 30 June 2020 21: 32 New
                    11
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    okstits) what are you talking about? I repeat, I'm sorry for them.

                    Well, here are your words:
                    I hate them.
                  3. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 37 New
                    -9
                    I do not hate them. what surprises you in my words. you read carefully.
          2. Interlocutor
            Interlocutor 30 June 2020 21: 37 New
            -2
            Communists and socialists managed to create the most powerful empire,

            I agree. But sorry, they managed to tear it out. Yes, it’s sincerely done that God forbid once again to pass this easy trouble.
          3. Incvizitor
            Incvizitor 30 June 2020 23: 51 New
            +5
            Those "communists" that now the Communist Party did not create anything and will not create anything closer to the beginning of the 90s there was only zero sense in power, if there was anyone worthy of Stalin then there would be no questions I would immediately run to vote and all these clowns were just ridiculous.
          4. Alex777
            Alex777 1 July 2020 13: 00 New
            -1
            Communists and socialists managed to create the most powerful empire,

            The facts speak differently.
            With German money, the Bolsheviks destroyed the most powerful Russian Empire at that time.
            What they were able to somehow collect (without Poland, Finland and the right to return Alaska), they very successfully mined by creating national republics with the right to exit. Which eventually came around.
            Well, then the communist Yeltsin (who blew up the Ipatiev House for some reason) finished off the communist Gorbachev and the Empire. Nearly.
            In Tatarstan, they closely watched how things were in Chechnya.
            You are personally lucky that the GDP has come and peace has come in Chechnya. wink
            I must say that I’m young. But I remember very well how they lived and built careers in the USSR. And that on the shelves was everything else.
            No hatred. But I only miss the Great Country, which is no longer there. hi
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 1 July 2020 13: 38 New
              +2
              The facts speak differently.
              With German money, the Bolsheviks destroyed the most powerful at that time Russian Empire

              You will carefully study what RI was at that time. It was an agrarian country steeped in corruption, where household syphilis was a common occurrence as a result of bad water, where only 14% were educated, as now there was practically no own industry .. And it was not the Bolsheviks who destroyed it, the Bolsheviks just picked up power. In general, if this topic is really interesting for you, then study ..
              What they were able to somehow collect (without Poland, Finland and the right to return Alaska), they very successfully mined by creating national republics with the right to exit. Which eventually came around.

              At that time, when the war followed one after another, when the fate of the state hung on the string, literally, this was a great merit of the Bolsheviks .. But in all its glory, the USSR state showed itself after the Second World War, when they rebuilt in the shortest possible time and, in fact, half the world was ours allies or vassals ..
              As for territorial divisions, the issue is certainly controversial, at that time it was certainly the right decision that helped preserve the identity of cultures and thereby attracted other cultures that were very difficult to integrate into the socialist new state.
              And I believe that now in this division there is nothing wrong with a strong centralized power.
              In Tatarstan, they closely watched how things were in Chechnya.
              You are personally lucky that the GDP has come and peace has come in Chechnya. wink

              In Tatarstan, they not only watched, but acted .. there were a lot of nationalists who shouted from TV screens that children from mixed marriages needed to be destroyed, etc. .. But in Tatarstan, what would have happened in Chechnya would never have happened. As I believe, Shaimiev simply used marginals to defend his interests, but Tatarstan would definitely not go along the path of Chechnya. Here you need to understand the mentality of the Tatars, they are the same as the Russians and Europeans, that is, not at all highlanders))
              So personally I was lucky in another .. but this is a different story ..
              Although the fact that the war in Chechnya was stopped was definitely a blessing, but the blessing had to be developed, and not solved according to concepts ..
              And in Putin’s first term, I was an ardent supporter of him.
              I must say that I’m young. But I remember very well how they lived and built careers in the USSR. And that on the shelves was everything else.
              No hatred. But I only miss the Great Country, which is no longer there. hi


              I think that those who hate the USSR are at least strange people .. how can you hate a state that has given you everything .. generally everything ..
              It is clear that there were a lot of points that required updating, new approaches .. by the way, for this reason, people were led to Gorbaty .. then there was a request from a naive society .. But only pure people can be naive .. that’s what brought up the USSR.
              I am convinced that the state should be socially oriented, that Ukraine and Belarus should be part of Russia, that we must move away from the commodity economy, that presidents should change, like everything should keep up to date, and even better than that time get ahead. But now I see only degradation, everything and everything .. hi
        2. tatra
          tatra 30 June 2020 21: 24 New
          +6
          This is the essence of the enemies of the communists who captured the USSR, you hate each other, and all together selflessly hate the Bolshevik communists. Therefore, not one of you is capable of discussions about the history and politics of your country. Because discussions are not only your favorite AGAINST, but also FOR.
    2. Revival
      Revival 30 June 2020 23: 36 New
      11
      Victory is when your laws apply there, and you can end the war in different ways.
    3. aglet
      aglet 1 July 2020 14: 35 New
      +1
      "he is not my idol. and he won’t. But unlike your leaders, he at least ended the war."
      by signing a surrender. and not the war was in Chechnya, but the redistribution of property
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 June 2020 20: 55 New
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    Do you know a lot of people who want to buy property in Chechnya? Not? And why? Would you buy it yourself?

    It is difficult to buy something in the village, there is not enough land, everything is densely populated ... an apartment in Grozny - you can probably. But what to do there? The specifics of the local ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 30 June 2020 21: 05 New
      22
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It is difficult to buy something in the village, there is not enough land, everything is densely populated ... an apartment in Grozny - you can probably. But what to do there? The specifics of the local ...

      And why did they go there in the 70s, build, live, make friends and the Russian population was already 36%? Is it difficult now? This is all nonsense, they’re afraid there’s something to buy and they’re afraid to go there .. this is the region of Russia .. where the Russians are afraid to poke their nose ..
      1. 210ox
        210ox 30 June 2020 23: 00 New
        +4
        Well, those serving there "stick". By order.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 30 June 2020 23: 05 New
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          Well, those serving there "stick". By order.

          Well, if only servicemen ..
    2. Revival
      Revival 30 June 2020 23: 39 New
      +3
      Specificity? Softly.
      Specificity when laws do not apply that specificity, of course ..
  • tatra
    tatra 30 June 2020 21: 21 New
    14
    The "great critics" of how the Red Army fought in the Great Patriotic War, and which in 3 years knocked out united Europe led by Hitler from the USSR, fought the Chechen war for 8 years with a bunch of Chechen bandits, and did NOT win, but signed a shameful peace treaty Since then, they have paid tribute to the Chechens at the expense of money taken from the Russian people. And if you stop paying, then again the war.
  • 210ox
    210ox 30 June 2020 22: 58 New
    -3
    I don’t put it. Now it’s important. In general, I even agree with Kadyrov. Why are these numerous tweaks with a change in the laws, a waste of money for elections and referenda. One word is autocracy, caste system. Without lies and unnecessary gestures around the box. honestly and openly. Everyone who is against-shut up or else we shut up
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 30 June 2020 23: 03 New
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      State honestly and openly. All who are against-shut up or else we shut up

      They can’t do that yet .. The West will consider them shaking hands and will begin to take away real estate and other assets .. But with time it will probably be so.
  • Alex777
    Alex777 1 July 2020 12: 20 New
    0
    There are many Svidomo.
    They do not write well in Russian.
    But well minus. wink
  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 30 June 2020 21: 12 New
    -1
    Quote: carstorm 11
    where were they when the war was going on there? collective farms raised?

    They fought against those who killed the collective farms.
    It’s time to understand.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 18 New
      -16
      In the nineties ?! Seriously? Something when in the Khankala border guards with beards to the knees landed, neither the Grudinins and others were observed. Where are they lost? Are you lost? Is the strawberry ripe?
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 30 June 2020 21: 23 New
    -5
    And what is it that everyone suddenly got a fuss? Forgot what is a cold or hybrid information war? Well, here's a flash on the right ... I put everyone to "bad" in the discipline of hybrid. Good for nothing, gentlemen. March for the textbooks.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 21: 31 New
    10
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Putin tamed him

    Whom did he tame? How many times have the amnesty been extended to militants, how long have they bought weapons?
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 38 New
      -7
      can you suggest a more efficient way? it would be nice.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 21: 40 New
        +9
        Quote: carstorm 11
        can you suggest a more efficient way? it would be nice.

        I can. Beat to the end.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 42 New
          -9
          you're like a locksmith or something like that. don't want to do it yourself?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 21: 47 New
            +6
            Quote: carstorm 11
            don't want to do it yourself?

            Want. And I can. What's the matter? And he won. Personally. Not money.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 48 New
              -18
              well done. pies on the shelf. at least someone is adequate.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 21: 51 New
                +9
                Quote: carstorm 11
                pies on the shelf.

                Twist them into a tube and shove yourself away, so that no one would find.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 52 New
                  -17
                  Well, sit yourself in the service and do not teach us the life of a mon sher)
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 21: 55 New
                    11
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    and don't teach us life

                    And I don’t teach anyone. I have my own opinion, cher ami.
                  2. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 30 June 2020 21: 57 New
                    -12
                    received. this is the first decent answer for the evening.
    2. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 30 June 2020 22: 28 New
      11
      Quote: carstorm 11
      can you suggest a more efficient way? it would be nice.

      Read the classics; remember the story, how much time all of them !!! immersed in pulmans? Something, for such actions you need to have a WILL !!!
      Here we all argue for Vlasov, an order bearer, a hero, a traitor ... that he wanted something and got it and that he was hanged correctly ...
      Kadyrov cut / shot your boys - what he wanted, he got it: he became a Hero of Russia, Russian dues / tribute are paid ...
      And the Father of Peoples in a week identified them where Makar did not drive calves ....
      We live in an amazing time ...
      Here the German is naughty, but where is the USSR now, and why didn’t they save ??? I’ll answer, we just fulfilled (fulfilled) the Oath (... to obey the orders of commanders and commanders implicitly ...), and for some reason nobody ordered us to defend the Soviet Union gave ... Why do I guess.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 30 June 2020 23: 05 New
        +1
        In the pulmans ?! With all the amenities and bathrooms? In the "pillars" .. Twenty people al eight horses .. Or how many then got into biaxial ..
        1. aglet
          aglet 1 July 2020 14: 41 New
          +1
          let them say thank you for not walking
    3. Revival
      Revival 30 June 2020 23: 48 New
      0
      Do you have any idea?
      Or are there really no effective ways and historical examples?
      It seems elementary things
  • Overlock
    Overlock 30 June 2020 23: 49 New
    +3
    Quote: carstorm 11
    and what’s wrong with that? Putin tamed him

    .... money? The Russian Federation consists of Russia and Chechnya ... a joke.
    and in every joke there is a fraction of the truth
    1. aglet
      aglet 1 July 2020 14: 44 New
      +3
      "The Russian Federation consists of Russia and Chechnya ... a joke.
      and in every joke there is a fraction of the truth "
      there is no truth in your joke. "The Russian Federation consists of Moscow and Chechnya, so it will be more correct
  • Overlock
    Overlock 30 June 2020 23: 53 New
    10
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Putin tamed him. can one of your leaders reassure Chechnya?

    do not count your chickens before they are hatched. Putin has not tamed Chechnya. but heaped up with money, i.e. - bought it.
    They do not pay for gas, and utilities, too.
    Question: How long will this tale last? After all, Russia pays for them!
    1. aglet
      aglet 1 July 2020 14: 47 New
      +2
      "Question: how long will this tale last? After all, Russia pays for them!"
      this music will be eternal as long as the gdp is on the throne. why? I wrote above
  • NordUral
    NordUral 1 July 2020 08: 21 New
    +1
    Putin tamed him
    Putin pays compensation.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 1 July 2020 12: 33 New
      -2
      Putin pays compensation.

      Eugene!
      Remind you how the first Chechen war ended?
      Khasavyurt agreement Swan signed.
      That was surrender and complete independence.
      Read them please. You have time.
      Do you know how the Red Army coped with Basmachism?
      The white sun of the desert is a fairy tale.
      Until the Red Army made a zone of scorched earth 300 km from the border in the adjacent territory, until then the war continued.
      In the modern world, such methods are impossible.
      So think about how good we have.
      You are a reasonable person. We do not deny the presence of rich and active enemies.
      One reconciliation with the Saudis, what does it cost you to understand?
      In my opinion, this is one of the greatest diplomatic victories in Russia.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 1 July 2020 14: 26 New
        0
        I know all this. But you won’t get away from the fact - we pay compensation. I hope that the Caucasus will understand this correctly, as we ourselves. But there is less hope of understanding.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 1 July 2020 14: 47 New
          -1
          I know all this.

          Then why aren't you making conclusions? wink
          The choice is simple. or total destruction (and you are not as bloodthirsty as I understand it), or a compromise that allows the parties to save face.
          Face conservation in the Caucasus is of particular importance.
          If the face could not be saved, the world will not be lasting. yes
          Such an arrangement will never be simple. But you must always remember - what could be instead of what is now.
          I am not impressed with critics of GDP for one reason - they do not say who it should be changed to. So that you can understand what will happen in a few steps forward.
          Do not offer bulk to me. bully
          The fight against something, IMHO, is always losing. You have to fight for something. hi
          And I’ll remind you one more. GDP during the reign has earned the reputation of the man of the word. There is a lot to do with this, that those who do not have such a reputation cannot understand. There is nothing to compare.
          But there is less hope of understanding.

          What are you talking about?
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 1 July 2020 16: 18 New
            +1
            On that which was hoped in the Union, too, that when we rubbed against each other, we grow together into one society, without prejudice to national characteristics.
            And then it was difficult, but after the 90s everything was only stuffed onto the top shelf, where we try not to look. But then the Soviet society had prospects (up to a certain time), which is not now. Not to mention the spreading black Islam, from which the faithful Muslims themselves are doing poorly.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 1 July 2020 22: 48 New
              0
              On that which was hoped in the Union, too, that when we rubbed against each other, we grow together into one society, without prejudice to national characteristics.

              We have entered the era of a fundamental change in world order. yes
              All unions will fall apart, and each state will be for itself.
              That world in which we lived until 2012. no longer.
              In the West, it was predicted 10 years ago. It starts to come true.
              And the peoples will also be for themselves. Alas. The era of change. hi
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 2 July 2020 10: 21 New
                -1
                By returning social justice to the country, everything can be gradually adjusted. And the affairs of the West and the rest are their problems.
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 2 July 2020 12: 02 New
                  0
                  You Evgeny, apparently, do not believe in God? wink
                  1. NordUral
                    NordUral 2 July 2020 12: 50 New
                    -1
                    I am an atheist, Alexander. At the time of great failure I tried to believe, but failed. I believe only in Nature and a successful combination of circumstances. And hard work to achieve your goals. And to blame everything on God is the destiny of the weak.
                  2. Alex777
                    Alex777 2 July 2020 13: 23 New
                    0
                    I only came to an understanding at 45. A complicated story.
                    But I always doubted the origin of monkeys. wink
                    Nothing of the modern Church is left. Neither the Roman Empire, nor the Byzantine, nor the Ottoman, nor the British, nor many others. And the Church lives ... Although there is no perfection anywhere.
                    From my point of view, there are reasonable explanations for what is happening now.
                    If you ever become interested in something, I’ll tell you a lot of interesting things.
                    Not chatting, of course. smile
                    He was never weak. I also help everyone around. hi
                  3. NordUral
                    NordUral 2 July 2020 13: 40 New
                    -1
                    Well, Alexander, I’ll write and write in personal correspondence. And not only the weak believe in God, I knew one veteran who accepted God at the front and became a priest. Moreover, he is not a couple of the fact that now in the majority at the head of the church.
                  4. Alex777
                    Alex777 2 July 2020 13: 45 New
                    0
                    I heard the saying - "there are no atheists in the trenches" ...
                    Both sad and faithful. hi
                  5. NordUral
                    NordUral 2 July 2020 13: 49 New
                    -1
                    I completely agree with this.
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 2 July 2020 13: 43 New
              0
              And to blame everything on God is the destiny of the weak.

              Just imagine for a moment that He is. wink
              The first conclusion is simple and important - since he is the Creator, then for his successful life one must abide by his rules ...
              To write off something to him does not make sense.
              The main thing is to understand the rules of the game. Further it will be easier. hi
            3. NordUral
              NordUral 2 July 2020 13: 47 New
              -1
              For me, at least for now - God is Nature. And in order to be a decent person, you can do with the Laws of Nature. But this is my personal one, I have never imposed it on anyone. Everyone has their own road.
            4. Alex777
              Alex777 2 July 2020 13: 51 New
              0
              Everyone has his own road

              By all means.
              My basic education involves accurate calculation and irrefutable evidence.
              Before deciding something for myself, I studied the issue for several years. People were attracted by those who knew, so that they would explain to me what was what. I say it was not an easy way. We were taught one technique in childhood. hi
            5. NordUral
              NordUral 2 July 2020 14: 02 New
              -1
              I agree, Alexander. But I’m not ready to accept it yet, but there are no arguments either to refute the existence of the Creator.
              And about the fact that the Ancients created us from the depths of the Universes, the same question is again, and who created them, as, indeed, these Universes themselves.
              It is possible that the Answer is beyond the Boundary, I think (I hope that not very soon) everything will be determined there. Or a black wall, or a new World.
            6. Alex777
              Alex777 2 July 2020 14: 11 New
              0
              I have already said that I seriously approached the issue.
              He traveled to the Holy Places, and visited the Holy Land more than once.
              One of the 3 biggest impressions received in the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra.
              There, at the entrance to the New Caves, in the building above, there is a fresco in the entire wall. Ordeals.
              Frost on the skin was when he made out in detail. The relics of Ilya Muromets were not as impressive as this fresco. The Mother of God entreated her Son to deliver her from this test, and he transferred her directly to Paradise ... hi
              I mean that the allotted time can be used, and not wait until everything becomes clear by itself, but it will be too late. wink
              What he wanted - he said everything. I won’t do it again.
            7. NordUral
              NordUral 2 July 2020 14: 18 New
              0
              Thank! Accepted.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 30 June 2020 20: 03 New
    25
    Will Ramzan appoint himself the life leader of Chechnya? He is obviously trying with personal gain.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 30 June 2020 20: 11 New
      -31
      This is bad? offer him a replacement. are there any in mind?
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 June 2020 21: 19 New
      +7
      Quote: Thrifty
      Will Ramzan appoint himself the life leader of Chechnya? He is obviously trying with personal gain.

      Let it fly into the near space first
      (this is not to send on a long space-erotic journey)
      and then “drives the snowstorm” following the example of Tereshkova.
  • snake
    snake 30 June 2020 20: 10 New
    +2
    Quote: Svarog
    What else to expect from Kadyrov .. Putin is the key to a good life .. for the Kadyrovs ..

    I think Kadyrov’s opinion is worth listening to. He is an academician, after all.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 30 June 2020 20: 12 New
      11
      Quote: serpent
      He is an academician, after all.

      Come on .. if he is an academician .. then I'm an astronaut .. Are you serious? or it's a joke .. although seriously, this is the biggest joke wassat
      1. snake
        snake 30 June 2020 20: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: Svarog
        Come on .. if he is an academician .. then I'm an astronaut ..

        That's right. You are an astronaut, he is an academician, and I am a Nobel Prize laureate ...
        1. DVR
          DVR 30 June 2020 21: 58 New
          -5
          That's right. You are an astronaut, he is an academician, and I am a Nobel Prize laureate ...

          And all together - ward number 6 laughing
          1. snake
            snake 1 July 2020 00: 04 New
            +3
            Quote: DVR
            And all together - ward number 6

            And together we are the people of Russia. Tomorrow I’ll go and take the money for the floats, and then I will go fishing.
            1. DVR
              DVR 1 July 2020 00: 32 New
              -8
              And together we are the people of Russia. Tomorrow I’ll go and take the money for the floats, and then I will go fishing.

              "The people of Russia", only here your opinions are too painful coincide with the opinion of "enemies of Russia." Tomorrow I will first “FOR” amendment, and then money - for floats and fishing rods. From next week on a trip, only a fishing rod is left to buy. I will miss you, a week without VO crying
              1. snake
                snake 1 July 2020 17: 16 New
                -2
                Quote: DVR
                "The people of Russia", only here your opinions are too painful coincide with the opinion of "enemies of Russia."

                And who determines who is the enemy of Russia and who is a friend? Are you lahti?
                Quote: DVR
                From next week on a trip, only a fishing rod is left to buy.

                Do not forget Kukan, with the inscription - "Putin"
                1. DVR
                  DVR 1 July 2020 18: 44 New
                  0
                  Well, here you go again.
                  And who determines who is the enemy of Russia and who is a friend? Are you lahti?

                  Did I say this somewhere, what am I defining? The people of Russia are different: there are like Zhukov, and there are like Vlasov, there are people like you in Russia, and there are like me, there are many others. And we are all the people of Russia. You bend something, snake :)
                  Do not forget Kukan, with the inscription - "Putin"

                  I want to go fishing for the soul, sit with the float - I feel the process, I haven’t been fishing for too long. I don’t need a cook, most likely I’ll let go of everything, and I can immediately cook it on the spot, if there is anything worthwhile. I bought everything else, I just arrived home. Yes, and voted "FOR" amendments, as planned. Everything is perfectly organized, there were a lot of people.
      2. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 30 June 2020 21: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: serpent
        He is an academician, after all.

        Come on .. if he is an academician .. then I'm an astronaut .. Are you serious? or it's a joke .. although seriously, this is the biggest joke wassat

        On July 27, 2006, he was elected Honorary Academician of the Academy of Sciences of the Chechen Republic.
        1. aglet
          aglet 1 July 2020 16: 11 New
          +2
          "On July 27, 2006 he was elected an honorary academician of the Academy of Sciences of the Chechen Republic."
          what is most interesting is an academician of the Academy of Sciences of the Chechen Republic. when was science in Chechnya? and when was an academy?
      3. aglet
        aglet 1 July 2020 14: 52 New
        +1
        "Come on .. if he is an academician .. then I'm an astronaut .."
        it means that you are an astronaut three times, and only yesterday returned from Mars. Ramzan - Academician, General, and Hero of Russia! oh how!
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 21: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: serpent
      He is an academician, after all.

      True, he forgot what topic the diploma wrote .... crying
      1. Alf
        Alf 30 June 2020 22: 12 New
        +6
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: serpent
        He is an academician, after all.

        True, he forgot what topic the diploma wrote .... crying

        "How I Fought Against the Russians."
      2. aglet
        aglet 1 July 2020 14: 53 New
        +3
        "True, he forgot what topic the diploma wrote .."
        he didn’t know, he didn’t pronounce such words in Russian
  • demo
    demo 30 June 2020 21: 51 New
    0
    Not as good as long.
  • krillon
    krillon 30 June 2020 23: 02 New
    +3
    Well, until Kadyrov, Zhirinovsky proposed to emperors produce. So comrades, meeting the wishes of the working people ...
  • Well
    Well done 1 July 2020 01: 49 New
    -9
    How many people, so many opinions. But here is the question on which I collected heaps of minuses - but offer an alternative to Putin! But they are not. There are no worthy alternatives! Here again, they’ll drown me now, and the candidate will not be called in the comments. Can we only click with the mouse? Sofa troops? And I am for stability. The end of the 80s-90s, the beginning of the 2000s was enough for me. Any Dudaev-Yandarbiev. I happened to look for Moskhadov in the area of ​​Nozhai-Yurt. Now it’s even calmer, the children are not afraid of going to school, the techie is letting go. (but justify before calling minus Putin’s successor) hi
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 02: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: Welldone
      But here is the question on which I collected heaps of minuses - but offer an alternative to Putin!

      Because you, and the same hesitated with this question.
      Quote: Welldone
      But they are not. There are no worthy alternatives!

      Personally, I have already called Ivashov. CEC rolled.
      1. Well
        Well done 1 July 2020 02: 32 New
        -6
        Ivashov? This is a general "expert" with TC "Star" ?! Are you laughing Maybe he will pass for an expert, but as a politician he is ZERO. No experience.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 02: 36 New
          +8
          Quote: Welldone
          but as a politician he is ZERO.

          Wow, what a fucking politician Putin was in the 99th. Already Yeltsin spoke about him to Clinton on the phone.
          1. Well
            Well done 1 July 2020 02: 45 New
            -5
            Wow, and who was Ivashov in 99m? But now he is a "doctor") A doctor, not a diplomat, not a geopolitician. Military theorist, of whom the clouds divorced.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 02: 59 New
              +6
              Quote: Welldone
              Military theorist, of whom the clouds divorced.

              Oh, damn it, the head club is much better than the head of the affairs department of the USSR Ministry of Defense. laughing
              1. Well
                Well done 1 July 2020 03: 49 New
                -6
                Ivashov is classified. I won’t be surprised if he was a pioneer leader at one time) But he is a very narrow specialist. Yes, I also like him, a serious man, but I repeat - not a politician. You yourself gave him a characteristic - a staff officer, he does not see him outside his division. Often begins to compare the potentials of nuclear weapons, hypersound. Is it calmer to live from this? No politician! And why, with all his regalia and brains, is he a colonel? I would take the example of the Wolf or Shevtsova. (irony)))
                1. aglet
                  aglet 1 July 2020 16: 17 New
                  +3
                  2 And why, with all his regalia and brains, is he a colonel? "
                  Putin can finally lieutenant colonel, although yes, you can’t compare with a wolf, her tits are better, straight, specifically, they’re pulling on general’s
                  1. Well
                    Well done 1 July 2020 16: 36 New
                    +2
                    It seems to me that the Wolf is not real, like working lips. From there, and general epaulettes. laughing
                    1. aglet
                      aglet 2 July 2020 09: 11 New
                      0
                      fully functional version
    2. Alexey Z
      Alexey Z 1 July 2020 12: 40 New
      +3
      Did you know Putin before he appeared? And who was he?
    3. aglet
      aglet 1 July 2020 14: 58 New
      +1
      “I happened to look for Moskhadov in the Nozhai-Yurt area. Now it’s even calmer, it’s not scary for children to go to school, they should let the techies go.
      maybe, after all - Mashadova? and Putin's receiver is sony, or panasonik, hardly a record
  • Vend
    Vend 2 July 2020 10: 14 New
    0
    Yes, Putin doesn’t need it, the well-known script that was played under Yeltsin will be played.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 2 July 2020 10: 22 New
    0
    You are absolutely right!
  • janin
    janin 30 June 2020 19: 53 New
    16
    I think the GDP should make alaverds .. and offer Kadyrov, also for life to appoint the head of Chechnya. because he, too, has no equal)
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 30 June 2020 19: 54 New
    30
    "Today, who can replace him? There is no such political leader on a global scale."

    Good question. But how many people knew the GDP before Yeltsin made him prime minister? ..
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 30 June 2020 19: 57 New
      +5
      Yes, no one knew him. But how it happened. Maybe the change will be the same. They will joke after Putin again the scout.
      1. aglet
        aglet 1 July 2020 14: 59 New
        +1
        "Yes, no one knew him. And how it happened. Maybe the change will be the same. There will be a scout after Putin will joke again."
        and cho, and to Putin was?
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 June 2020 21: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: 1976AG
      But how many people knew the GDP before Yeltsin made him prime minister? ..

      Clarification: before when Yeltsin put the prime minister.
      1. aglet
        aglet 1 July 2020 15: 01 New
        0
        “Clarification: before Yeltsin was made prime minister.”
        and do you have facts? or do you want to think so?
  • Alf
    Alf 30 June 2020 19: 55 New
    17
    There is no such political leader on a global scale.

    IN THE WORLD ??? However...
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 June 2020 21: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: Alf
      IN THE WORLD ??? However...

      Tse only talks about the extent to which his world is crowded.
    2. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 30 June 2020 22: 36 New
      -2
      Quote: Alf
      There is no such political leader on a global scale.

      IN THE WORLD ??? However...

      But what ?, it was Vasily Ivanovich Chapaev who could not, didn’t speak languages. And ours (they were born in the same camp) always had time to cross-wipe, he speaks the language ...
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 30 June 2020 19: 56 New
    12
    Then we must speak not Vladimir Putin, but Duncan MacLaut. And why only for life? wassat It is necessary right at once, at all times. Che trifles then? fellow
    From their power they do not see the shores at all. Although the liberals are no better ... those generally snickering pigs with a weak ass.
    1. Cartalon
      Cartalon 30 June 2020 20: 12 New
      +4
      They have already said that Putin will be after Putin.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 30 June 2020 20: 49 New
        0
        Putin would definitely like your joke, and then the namesake will come, as in a nightmare.
        1. Cartalon
          Cartalon 30 June 2020 20: 56 New
          +2
          What other jokes
          https://yandex.ru/turbo/s/rbc.ru/society/18/06/2020/5eeb6d129a794743608c8c2a
    2. Errr
      Errr 30 June 2020 21: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      Then we must speak not Vladimir Putin, but Duncan MacLaut.
      Don’t forget about breaking off your head, Andrey. The price of immortality, however, is high. smile
    3. spirit
      spirit 30 June 2020 21: 44 New
      +1
      Yes, everything has been invented before us)
      Here is a great role model, which Mr. Kadyrov, the ideal variant, is apparently guided by (or rather, regional feudal lord)
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 30 June 2020 22: 37 New
        +2
        Elbasy him in the liver ....
      2. Revival
        Revival 30 June 2020 23: 52 New
        0
        He even made a special window in his mausoleum so that he could look beyond the country and suggest something if he saw fit!
    4. aglet
      aglet 1 July 2020 15: 07 New
      +1
      "They don’t see the shores from their power. Although the liberals are no better ... those pigs that are too snicky with a weak ass."
      so Putin is also a liberal, he said, no one raped him. camout, as they call it
  • DVR
    DVR 30 June 2020 19: 56 New
    -7
    Life is too much, of course. What if a person gets tired, wants to relax, live calmly. Or get sick.
    While health allows and there is a desire - I do not mind, but only subject to support from the citizens of the Russian Federation :)
    1. syndicalist
      syndicalist 30 June 2020 20: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: DVR
      What if a person gets tired, wants to relax, live calmly.

      This is unlikely to succeed. Unless they soften to life.
  • vavilon
    vavilon 30 June 2020 19: 56 New
    -7
    For life - this is too much and the restriction of presidential terms is removed, it’s right
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 30 June 2020 22: 44 New
      -1
      Quote: vavilon
      For life - this is too much and the restriction of presidential terms is removed, it’s right

      ,, ... corridors end with a wall,
      tunnels bring to light ... '' / V.Vysotsky /
      Well, a lifetime option too ...
  • Samara_63
    Samara_63 30 June 2020 19: 58 New
    -5
    Horror Cult of Personality
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 30 June 2020 19: 59 New
      20
      Quote: Samara_63
      Horror Cult of Personality

      There was a cult, but there was a personality .. and now a cult of impersonality, nullified so to speak ..
      1. Samara_63
        Samara_63 30 June 2020 20: 01 New
        0
        How short gene memory Kadyrov draws in the Middle Ages
      2. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 30 June 2020 22: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Samara_63
        Horror Cult of Personality

        There was a cult, but there was a personality .. and now a cult of impersonality, nullified so to speak ..

        Zero without a wand ???, from childhood I remember ...
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  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 30 June 2020 20: 02 New
    -22
    Perhaps he is right.
    Firstly, I don’t see candidates of an appropriate scale,
    secondly, a change of manager does not usually lead to improvements. And to failures.
    Name a worthy / verified / competent person, I will gladly vote for him.
    1. Region68
      Region68 30 June 2020 20: 15 New
      14
      We have a change of leader because of this and leads to failures because he does not go to the last with the throne ..
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 30 June 2020 20: 21 New
        0
        Maybe. I am not saying anything.
        But you did not name me the candidate.
        And clean, just to clean ... Well, I already went through this in the nineties ...
        1. Samara_63
          Samara_63 30 June 2020 20: 26 New
          -3
          Candidacy? Putin has more power than Brezhnev, why hasn’t he prepared a receiver for the discussion of the people so far? Worthy! Maybe Putin didn’t have to?
          Well, I don’t see it yet either, but I’m ready to offer it! Gromov General!
          1. Petrol cutter
            Petrol cutter 30 June 2020 20: 42 New
            -3
            "The candidacy? Putin has more power than Brezhnev, why hasn’t he prepared a receiver for the discussion of the people yet?"
            I dont know. As one of my boss said, I do not have all the information on this issue.
            Therefore, simply rallies in terms of Putin-get!
            Personally, they do not work for me.
            I lived long enough in a state where everything is get! And not for this he was replaced.
            The main question is, who gave you any guarantees (see the nineties ...) that the next leader will not make life much worse and more fun ?! I lived in UA and all the way I was getting more and more fun to live. In the end, it became so much fun that I wanted to evacuate strategically.
            1. Samara_63
              Samara_63 30 June 2020 20: 55 New
              12
              I Lived under Brezhnev and under Andropov and under Chernenko ... and further
              But no one except Yeltsin left ... a bad tradition, Putin just already tired of everyone! And you too! It’s bad he blurred his eyes, people live a little better than in the 90s
    2. syndicalist
      syndicalist 30 June 2020 20: 24 New
      10
      Is it not embarrassing to have such a low opinion of your compatriots? Of the 140 million, we can’t choose anyone better than a lieutenant colonel expelled from the "organs"?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 30 June 2020 23: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: syndicalist
        Can’t we choose anyone better than a lieutenant colonel driven out of the "organs"?

        maybe the whole thing is in the "organs"?
    3. hroft
      hroft 30 June 2020 20: 27 New
      12
      Who should I show you? He doesn’t allow anyone to take power at all, the media are completely under his control and will never tell about other worthy candidates, there is no one in all of Russia except Putin? Laughter and only
    4. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 June 2020 21: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Benzorez
      Name a worthy / verified / competent person, I will gladly vote for him.

      Just call?
      Or maybe you yourself will dig into biographies, views and merits?
    5. flicker
      flicker 30 June 2020 22: 02 New
      -1
      Name a worthy / verified / competent person, I will gladly vote for him.

      Right, they’ll call it now ... although they have an example: Ukraine
      there the clown people chose that masterfully owns (or took possession of laughing ) the piano, we also have ... a meter of the same genre, they call it Shenderovich, it really is more special on mattresses, but it’s quite suitable for our skakuas. laughing
    6. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 30 June 2020 22: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Benzorez
      Perhaps he is right.
      Firstly, I don’t see candidates of an appropriate scale,
      secondly, a change of manager does not usually lead to improvements. And to failures.
      Name a worthy / verified / competent person, I will gladly vote for him.

      Gas cutter, you need to raise the bar of self-esteem higher ...
      And what to do with ,, ... every citizen of the Russian Federation has the right to choose and BE !!!! to the chosen ones ... '' or will the paper endure everything ??? ...
    7. aglet
      aglet 1 July 2020 15: 22 New
      +1
      "Firstly, I do not see candidates of an appropriate scale,"
      But who will show them? They have long been at gunpoint, and they hung and deadlines, arranged a good life. only Ksyushad is still free, so Duc, according to rumors, she’s the godmother’s daughter
  • Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 30 June 2020 20: 04 New
    12
    After the adoption of the amendments, it is necessary to save Putin’s body for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren!
    To this end, prescribe embalming in early July and make this day a holiday.
    The head of the country to appoint an athlete, a beauty and just Alina Kabaeva.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 30 June 2020 20: 06 New
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    Today, who can replace him? There is no such political leader on a global scale.

    And it sounds like a groaning for fear of losing gratuitous payments from the federal budget and writing off debts for gas and electricity (most likely because of the love of Russians for the people of the Chechen Republic).
    Maybe enough to roll Vanka? Russia needs a strong-willed leader who does not forgive the sacking of the country, betrayal, lies and deceit in any branch of the power vertical.
    But no one authorized him to mock the working people, asserting them slave labor to the grave.
    Respect for the person of work is not manifested in words at the opening of the memorial, but in real concern for the dignified life of citizens who faithfully fulfill their duty to the Fatherland.
    For us, Putin’s life term is not the main point of either amendments or life.
    Even pensions cannot be brought into proper condition. There is no money ...
    1. Samara_63
      Samara_63 30 June 2020 20: 11 New
      0
      1000
      how many slaves do we have
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 30 June 2020 20: 31 New
        +2
        Pay taxes? Pay, then also a slave.
    2. DVR
      DVR 30 June 2020 20: 15 New
      -13
      Russia needs a strong-willed leader who does not forgive the sacking of the country, betrayal, lies and deceit in any branch of the power vertical.

      Bulk or Platoshkin? Who are you suggesting? Maybe Grudinin?
      1. Region68
        Region68 30 June 2020 20: 18 New
        +8
        Yes, even if Navalny..NATO didn’t come close to the borders with Navalny, Navalny didn’t get along with all the neighbors, he didn’t carry out pension reform either .. But he thinks that he will be able to trade oil for $ 100 and which people should be unfastened ..
        1. DVR
          DVR 30 June 2020 20: 39 New
          -10
          Yes, even Navalny ..

          You did not have enough "Harvard boys", did you want Yale? No, I don’t need this populist with my young Natsik for sure. I’m even afraid to imagine what will happen, put him in control.
          1. Region68
            Region68 30 June 2020 20: 50 New
            12
            Putin among those boys worked tirelessly .. In August, he whistled 91 from the Communist Party and the KGB to a democratic dog in a flash .. And Che nothing, you won’t get away from him ..
            1. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke 30 June 2020 21: 50 New
              -5
              Quote: Region68
              In August, he whistled 91 from the Communist Party and the KGB to the democratic dog in a flash ..

              He didn’t whistle, but moved to the "alternate airfield" according to him.
              It may have been moved. Watching the dog.
              After all, "there are no ex."
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 30 June 2020 22: 04 New
                +3
                Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                Watching the dog.

                He was watching the casino.
            2. DVR
              DVR 30 June 2020 22: 16 New
              -5
              Putin among those boys worked tirelessly .. In August, he whistled 91 from the Communist Party and the KGB to a democratic dog in a flash .. And Che nothing, you won’t get away from him ..

              Because I see the results of his activities. Not one negative, but significant achievements. And to say that life is now almost like in the 90s, can only a madman, or a liar or a provocateur. You blow the same tune with Nuland, she really doesn’t like Putin and Russia in its present form. Here is Ukraine - yes. You and your colleagues did not receive cookies from her?
              Former State Department spokeswoman Nuland advised US authorities to increase their influence on the Russians. The former assistant secretary of state to the United States recommends that Washington and its allies recall “those governance methods that allowed the victory in the Cold War and yielded results for many years after that.
              According to Nuland, "US leaders also need to re-learn how to appeal to the people of Russia." She notes that during the Cold War, the United States funded a number of media outlets to influence the USSR, and also regularly “maintained contact with dissidents.” According to an ex-employee of the US administration, "today, Russia is even more exposed" to such an impact.
              Nuland states that "young Russians are much more likely to receive information and learn news from the Internet." "Washington should try to appeal to a larger number of them on the social networks Odnoklassniki, VKontakte, Facebook, Telegram and YouTube, as well as on new Russian-language platforms, which are becoming more and more," she notes.
              1. Region68
                Region68 1 July 2020 10: 12 New
                +1
                What are the results then? What criteria do not look at us somewhere between Africa and Latin America hang out .. You see the results of oil prices, not Putin’s rule
                1. DVR
                  DVR 1 July 2020 10: 26 New
                  0
                  What are the results then? What criteria do not look at us somewhere between Africa and Latin America hang out ..

                  Then you urgently to the optometrist (maybe to the brain) laughing
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 30 June 2020 20: 26 New
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        Quote: DVR
        Bulk or Platoshkin? Who are you suggesting? Maybe Grudinin?

        It is dangerous for your "Edru" to propose candidates in advance. I am satisfied with Platoshkin - a man without dark spots in his biography, in contrast to the Sobchakovsky servant. And I respect Grudinin for his state farm.
        Navalny is not my idol, Bondarenko is too quick-tempered and emotional.
        But you need to leave Putin in any way ... Leave ... The longer the upward movement, the worse the fall ...
        1. Samara_63
          Samara_63 30 June 2020 20: 29 New
          +7
          In general, I’m not bad with Putin, but I see the destructiveness of his longevity in the Government, he’s just tired of it already!
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 30 June 2020 20: 40 New
            -15
            But I wasn’t tired .. For me, Putin through his decrees gave a lot. And I am grateful to him.
            1. Samara_63
              Samara_63 30 June 2020 20: 58 New
              +6
              I'm tired of you, you’re just afraid to write it here, I’m afraid too, but I overcame the fear! Personally to you? Well, maybe ... which can’t be said about the majority since the 13th year, the people slipped back into the 90s and lives no better
              1. DVR
                DVR 30 June 2020 22: 22 New
                -5
                I'm tired of you, you’re just afraid to write it here,

                You are directly a hypnotist on the internet. For others, you decide who is tired and who is afraid of what.
                I'm afraid too, but I overcome the fear!

                Probably and sleep with the light on laughing
              2. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 1 July 2020 00: 16 New
                -1
                I used to go to the sea 1000 tanks in the 90th per month was for happiness. Now friends and acquaintances in the sea consider only offers from 2000 + overtime and this is an ordinary crew. lives poorly.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 01: 37 New
                  +2
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  I used to go to the sea 1000 tanks in the 90th per month was for happiness. Now friends and acquaintances at sea consider only offers from 2000 + overtime and this is an ordinary crew.

                  In the 90s, an apartment of 5 thousand bucks was worth it. And if you take the Crimea, you could buy a house for a thousand bucks.
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 1 July 2020 01: 49 New
                    +1
                    This is what a hole the apartment was worth in so much. Here flew with the Crimea, who knew what will be 2014 ..
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 01: 53 New
                      +1
                      Quote: tralflot1832
                      This is what hole the apartment was worth.

                      And here, in the Tula region, in a city with a population of more than one hundred thousand people. This is not even in the middle, but in the late 90s. In the middle, it’s cheaper.
                      1. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 1 July 2020 02: 17 New
                        0
                        I believe. My friend in 2007 in the Kursk region took a one-room apartment for 400 at the foundation pit stage. It seems to be called Krasnogorsk. Satisfied like a boa constrictor. Now he’s going to Montovideo from St. Petersburg. Biskay has already passed. years and younger. I apologize for the hole.
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 02: 23 New
                        +1
                        Now odnushka-Khrushchev, we have about 20 thousand bucks.
                      3. AUL
                        AUL 1 July 2020 07: 19 New
                        +1
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        .My friend in 2007 in the Kursk region for 400 at the stage of excavation took a one-room apartment. It seems to be called Krasnogorsk.

                        There is no in the Kursk region of Krasnogorsk - there is Zheleznogorsk, Kursk magnetic anomaly (KMA).
                      4. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 1 July 2020 07: 28 New
                        +1
                        Thank you, like Zheleznogorsk. KMA he mentioned.
            2. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 1 July 2020 02: 41 New
              +4
              Quote: tralflot1832
              I used to go to the sea 1000 tanks in the 90th per month was for happiness. Now friends and acquaintances at sea consider only offers from 2000 +

              We don’t go to sea ... Yes, and we don’t have any sea ... Only here, pink salmon used to be "caught" (in stores) for 100 rubles / kg, and today - for 100 + ...
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 1 July 2020 02: 50 New
                +1
                Traders make a mark-up from 40 to infinity. The other day, I saw 340 capelin per capelin lazy. Too lazy to look for prices from our fishermen in the west. Probably not really changed when I was 1700 -2200 per ton of cod. Here and count how many traders have out of the blue.
        2. Revival
          Revival 1 July 2020 00: 05 New
          +5
          May, which are not fulfilled?
        3. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 01: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: tralflot1832
          But I wasn’t tired .. For me, Putin through his decrees gave a lot. And I am grateful to him.

          By the way, what flag do you fly?
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 1 July 2020 01: 53 New
            +1
            I went, now retired. But I communicate with friends.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 01: 55 New
              0
              Quote: tralflot1832
              I went now retired

              Well, so under what went? My dad is under the Soviet. And you?
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 1 July 2020 02: 24 New
                +1
                C79 near Sovetskoye as a fisherman, then until 2007 Russian again as a fisherman. One office was lucky so lucky.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 02: 27 New
                  -1
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  C79 near Sovetsky as a fisherman, then until 2007 the Russian again as a fisherman.

                  My dad just before the 79th in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk was fishing. He blew all the money into the cards, the fig never brought home, be stunned.
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 1 July 2020 02: 35 New
                    +1
                    My father raised me, he was also passionate. When he arranged for the sea he forbade playing cards, even a fool. There were sharpies in friends on the ship, they showed such tricks, there were no options. I had seen enough on trains how to strip to the skin. This was common in the USSR.
                  2. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 02: 47 New
                    0
                    Quote: tralflot1832
                    Under the USSR, this was common.

                    And not only. My former neighbor blew two shops, an apartment and a wife. Veins opened.
                  3. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 1 July 2020 02: 56 New
                    0
                    As there is a classic: You are passionate Paramosha! It's already with fat! Although I sometimes play sportloto myself.
  • Region68
    Region68 30 June 2020 20: 30 New
    -2
    Platoshkin balabol. Here Grudinin yes ..
  • DVR
    DVR 30 June 2020 21: 42 New
    -1
    It is dangerous for your "Edru" to propose candidates in advance.

    I am not a member of any parties.
    I am satisfied with Platoshkin - a man without dark spots in his biography, in contrast to the Sobchakovsky servant.

    According to Platoshkin, I have already spoken out. I tried to listen - it was enough until the moment where he said that the rocket on which Yu.A. Gagarin, we can’t already build. An ordinary populist with a well-hung tongue. I don’t exclude that the Kremlin’s project, judging by the fact that someone definitely invested well in it. More precisely - one of the towers of the Kremlin, there, too, everything is not as uniform as it is commonly thought. Although there are those who believe that Khodorkovsky is on the choke, I have not seen any reliable information about this.
    Navalny is not my idol, Bondarenko is too quick-tempered and emotional.

    Bondarenko I do not know. I do not even want to discuss Navalny; everything is clear to him with him. Grudinin, as you put it, is not my idol. So much dirt around him with finances would be clean, he would defend to the end both the honor and interests of his voters. He didn’t do anything for this, maybe just couldn’t, because facts are a stubborn thing. And his political career is muddy: then in Edra, he tried something with the LDPR, then with the Communist Party, which had already completely discredited itself.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 1 July 2020 03: 08 New
      +8
      Quote: DVR
      I am not a member of any parties.

      And according to the statements, it seems different: a card of a member of the "Edra" burns in his pocket ... laughing
      But I don’t believe a person who hides his murky past, while storing the ticket of a CPSU member in a desk drawer; I consider a hypocrite a person who does not know his salary (at least for comparison with the minimum wage ... at least in anticipation of a straight line); I’m suspicious of the career of a person who has confused ranks, positions that jumps out SUDDENLY !!! as a certain substance from a snuffbox to the post of head of the FSB; I am disgusted by a candidate who deceives his voters with constant lies and promises, who picks up his opponents without spoiling their election debates; I am disgusted with the hypocrite who slandered the whole past of my Soviet Motherland, seeing only the bad things there, which dug into the presidency like a tick, after which it is not known what will happen to the country's “organism”.
      You will learn a lot of interesting things about Putin when he will not be president. Today he is already ridiculous and miserable in his attempts to color the years of his reign with a halo of great significance. There is not a single positive moment in the history of the country about which a decent honest man could say:
      YOU'RE Lying ALL! THIS HAPPENED THANKS ONLY TO PUTIN!
      And, on the contrary, there is a lot of negativity that he sent into our lives with the stroke of his pen.
      1. DVR
        DVR 1 July 2020 10: 20 New
        -1
        And according to the statements, it seems different: a card of a member of the "Edra" burns in his pocket ...

        You just see it. With the same success I can assume that you are financed by opponents of Putin laughing
        But I don’t believe a person who hides his murky past, while storing the ticket of a CPSU member in a desk drawer; I consider a hypocrite a person who does not know his salary (at least for comparison with the minimum wage ... at least in anticipation of a straight line); I’m suspicious of the career of a person who has confused ranks, positions that jumps out SUDDENLY !!! as a certain substance from a snuffbox to the post of head of the FSB; I am disgusted by a candidate who deceives his constituents with constant lies and promises, who picks up his opponents without spoiling their election debates;

        And I believe the person from whom the enemies of Russia are represented in the person of representatives of the United States and the transnational elite. It was with Yeltsin that they kissed the gums, praised him and helped him in every way. And sanctions were not imposed, but for some reason the Russian Federation flew into the abyss and did not remain very long. Aunt Nuland recently said everything, I already quoted her higher on the branch. Thanks to Putin, Russia acquired subjectivity and began to participate in world processes. I am well aware of the gigantic possibilities and scale of the activity that our opponents, who control half the world, carry out. And the fact that under these conditions we have relative stability is also a merit of GDP. If such pressure was carried out in the 90s, Russia would not exist long ago. Only then was Yeltsin his own in the board, and then Putin was also agreed upon, like his own. It turned out not so. So the whole whistle went - sanctions, isolation, color revolutions around the perimeter of the Russian Federation. It is thanks to Putin that we have an effective army, which until recently was a pity to look at. Colossal work has been done to restore and modernize the defense industry. Thanks to Putin, in recent years, thousands of new industries and factories have been restored and created in Russia, while nothing was built before him, but only collapsed. Russia has taken a leading position in agriculture. Russia has become the undisputed leader in the field of nuclear technology. It was under Putin that centrifugal tendencies were stopped and the conflict in Chechnya was over. You can list for a long time. And I need to run to fulfill my civic duty and vote "FOR" the amendment laughing
        You can read it yourself, the information is full on the network.
        https://ruxpert.ru/Сферы_лидерства_России#.D0.A1.D0.B5.D0.BB.D1.8C.D1.81.D0.BA.D0.BE.D0.B5_.D1.85.D0.BE.D0.B7.D1.8F.D0.B9.D1.81.D1.82.D0.B2.D0.BE_.D0.B8_.D0.BB.D0.B5.D1.81.D0.BD.D0.B0.D1.8F_.D0.BF.D1.80.D0.BE.D0.BC.D1.8B.D1.88.D0.BB.D0.B5.D0.BD.D0.BD.D0.BE.D1.81.D1.82.D1.8C
        1. aglet
          aglet 1 July 2020 15: 48 New
          +1
          “They kissed his gums with Yeltsin, praised and helped him in every possible way. And they did not impose sanctions, but for some reason the Russian Federation flew into the abyss and did not last long.”
          I must explain to you that Yeltsin chose Putin as his successor. and Putin is following the path laid by Yeltsin, without turning anywhere
          1. DVR
            DVR 1 July 2020 18: 32 New
            +1
            Quote: aglet
            “They kissed his gums with Yeltsin, praised and helped him in every possible way. And they did not impose sanctions, but for some reason the Russian Federation flew into the abyss and did not last long.”
            I must explain to you that Yeltsin chose Putin as his successor. and Putin is following the path laid by Yeltsin, without turning anywhere

            You opened my eyes laughing But why didn’t you quote me and answer me why under Putin:
            ... sanctions, isolation, color revolutions around the perimeter of the Russian Federation.
            Plus the formation of the IG for the destruction of Russia,
            and under Yeltsin, were your best friends? How so what happened?
            1. aglet
              aglet 2 July 2020 10: 09 New
              0
              "You opened my eyes. And why didn’t you quote me and answer me why under Putin:
              ... sanctions, isolation, color revolutions around the perimeter of the Russian Federation.
              Plus the formation of the IG for the destruction of Russia,
              and under Yeltsin, were your best friends? How so what happened? "
              ig took shape in the late 90s, in your opinion, under Yeltsin. It was not created at all for the war with Russia, but for the seizure of power in the Middle East, the spread of the Saudi (original) version of Islam, and at the same time, the sale of stolen oil, drugs, weapons and other goodies. the creation of ig needs to be connected not with the advent of Putin, but with the clumsy actions of the United States, France, NATO in those places at that time. plus the Russian Foreign Ministry, with his "skillful" actions he put a foot. under Putin nothing has changed there, the only thing is that the VKS has some kind of military practice, and the fleet burns its resource
              "... sanctions, isolation, color revolutions around the perimeter of the Russian Federation."
              NATO’s eastward movement began even under Yeltsin, the color revolutions, even from Hungary, since 1956, and never ended, but NATO finally surrounded Russia with its members and allies, indeed, under Putin, which speaks of international authority, the power of the army and the skilled actions of the Russian foreign ministry and, personally, the president. to lose those few allies who were left in the company with such powerful states as serbia, belorussia and venezuela, I say, in the company, because there are no allied treaties, but just a temporary coincidence of interests - the aforementioned countries want to receive money and other sweets from Russia, and Russia is ready to pay them for fidelity, but the amounts have not yet coincided, and so far there is no general joy on both sides.
              and sanctions - the dollar doesn’t sell trump at 70 re, but the bank of Russia. It was he (not trump) who raised prices for almost everything since 2014, and our patriot is a banker and our patriot is a trader. well, and the invisible hand of the market in the form of a government that stubbornly keeps high energy prices and regularly raises tariffs for everything.
              something like this. if you need something else to open your eyes, contact
              1. DVR
                DVR 2 July 2020 11: 28 New
                0
                ig took shape in the late 90s, in your opinion, under Yeltsin. It was not created at all for the war with Russia, but for the seizure of power in the Middle East, the spread of the Saudi (original) version of Islam, and at the same time, the trade in stolen oil, drugs, weapons and other goodies. the creation of ig needs to be connected not with the advent of Putin, but with the clumsy actions of the United States, France, NATO in those places at that time. plus the Russian Foreign Ministry, he put a foot on his “skillful” actions.

                We will never be able to come to the same opinion, we have a different vision of the picture, we can give our value judgments. In the 90s, various formations on the BV can and were created to seize power, solve individual problems, but it was in the tenths that the formation of the IS began with the corresponding media support. I already wrote earlier:
                "All these states (Turkey, Egypt, Algeria, Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, ..) would already be integrated into a global radical Islamist terrorist supergroup that would instantly gobble up Transcaucasia and the former Central Asian republics, and then set to work And it’s not a fact that we could have stopped already, but these squeals from the State Department only confirm my conclusions.
                And inside the soil was also very well prepared. The murder of the mufti of Tatarstan in 2012, a representative of Sufi Islam, who is the main enemy of radical Islamism (which has nothing to do with Islam, like the Crusades with Christianity), was a kind of "point of no return." A large network of emissaries at mosques in Russia, training and processing schools was destroyed without too much noise and dust. "
                under Putin nothing has changed there, the only thing is that the VKS has some kind of military practice, and the fleet burns its resource

                Under Putin, everything changed radically there. And the fact that the IG does not exist in the form in which I described above is the main difference. Of course, this was achieved not only by actions in Syria.
                NATO’s eastward movement began even under Yeltsin, the color revolutions, even from Hungary, since 1956, and never ended, but finally NATO surrounded Russia with its members and allies, indeed, under Putin, which speaks of international authority, the power of the army and the skilled actions of the Russian foreign ministry and, personally, the president. to lose those few allies who were staying in company with such powerful states as serbia, belarus and venezuela

                NATO’s eastward movement is a consequence of Gorbachev’s treacherous policies and ruling clans. Yeltsin only welcomed this, because became a best friend and partner. And which of the allies could we not lose? At the time of the collapse or a little later, most of the former allies of the elite were already pro-American, who did not want to look towards Russia. But the Russian Federation itself was on the verge of collapse. The Foreign Ministry at that time was headed by Mr. "Yes." Whom we could not lose after all this, we did not lose (Belarus, Kazakhstan and others). The Ukrainian game is the only moment that I will never write to Putin’s merit. Though. let's see how it all ends.
                the above countries want to receive money and other goodies from Russia, and Russia is ready to pay them for loyalty

                This is arranged everywhere in the existing world. There are subjects, there are others. The subject considers the rest either as colonies or as an ally. At the head of the colonies, the subject sets the leadership and sucks them dry, telling the population tales of democracy. Of course, there are those close to the core, like Germany or Japan, which, with full submission, also fall from the rest of the colonies. The subject always pays to allies for loyalty, as the USSR paid, how Russia pays. Only Russia is now doing this much more thoughtfully and more efficiently with less resources.
                and sanctions - the dollar doesn’t sell trump at 70 re, but the bank of Russia. It was he (not trump) who raised prices for almost everything since 2014, and our patriot is a banker and our patriot is a trader. well, and the invisible hand of the market in the form of a government that stubbornly keeps high energy prices and regularly raises tariffs for everything.

                To manage any colony, which the Russian Federation has practically become, having lost in the Cold War, the metropolis implements a number of measures that ensure the complete subordination of the state under control. One of these measures is control over the financial system of the colony. To do this, the central bank is removed from the control of the colony and placed under the control of the international financial system, which is managed by the Fed. And the Fed, in turn, is a private organization with its owners. All this business is fixed in the legislation of the colony and, in particular, in the constitution. In our case, I see a lot of good things in the amendments, but only one there has a strategic character, it was because of it that everything was started. Putin did the almost impossible under the circumstances proposed to him, and after all, control over the Central Bank is far from all the measures that the subject implements to manage the colony. He prevented the collapse of the country, stopped the collapse of industry and the economy, made Russia, again against all odds, a Subject and included it in the world game. You can list for a long time. But this is the maximum that he could in the current conditions. The time has come to move on, to solve more fundamental problems.
                if you need something else to open your eyes, contact

                You already open yours to the end, and then I can turn to you hi
                1. aglet
                  aglet 2 July 2020 11: 41 New
                  0
                  we are talking about the same thing. you bring all the facts in line with the policy of praising all the movements of Putin, I’m saying that the merits of Putin will be positively appreciated by the State Department rather than his own people. You are right for yourself and your associates, I am right for yourself. We will not come to an agreement. just, after a few years, remember our conversation
                2. DVR
                  DVR 2 July 2020 11: 53 New
                  0
                  we are talking about the same thing. you bring all the facts in line with the policy of praising all the movements of Putin, I’m saying that the merits of Putin will be positively appreciated by the State Department rather than his own people. You are right for yourself and your associates, I am right for yourself. We will not come to an agreement. just, after a few years, remember our conversation

                  I brought to you on the fingers the foundations of the relationship between the colony and the mother country - this is impossible to argue with, this is theory. The theory is universal, and I trying it on Putin cannot but praise him. And from the point of view of theory, no one has proved the opposite to me.
                  You are absolutely right, time will tell. God will give health, I will definitely remember my discussions on this site (I never again discussed on the net). The question - will I regret my position - time will tell. It is hoped that there will be no reason.
                3. aglet
                  aglet 2 July 2020 12: 11 New
                  0
                  "I brought to you on the fingers the foundations of the relationship between the colony and the mother country - it’s impossible to argue with that,"
                  I don’t have to explain to me on my fingers, I myself understand quite well and I myself can explain it to anyone and anything. By the way, the current authorities, including the president, also mastered the art of explaining, not influencing, not producing, just explaining, it's easier, cheaper and safer. If you understand the fundamentals of the relations between the colony and the metropolis, then you understand that our country is a colony. what successes of the president of the colony can you talk about? if you understand this, then you just puff out your cheeks, like the government and the president, to seem smarter, stronger and more terrible. only by blowing your cheeks you can’t change anything, you can only delay the end
                4. DVR
                  DVR 2 July 2020 12: 26 New
                  0
                  Do not influence, do not produce, just explain, it is simpler, cheaper and safer. If you understand the fundamentals of the relations of the colony and the mother country, then you understand that our country is a colony. what successes of the president of the colony can you talk about? if you understand this, then you just puff out your cheeks, like the government and the president, to seem smarter, stronger and more terrible. only by blowing your cheeks you can’t change anything, you can only delay the end

                  You suffered, as usual carries your "colleagues" No wonder.
                  I do not pout, especially to you. Let's talk in the language of numbers, without emotion. Compare the performance of the Russian Federation in different areas to Putin and at the current time. And it will immediately become clear "what successes the colony president can speak of." And you don’t have to pull the end laughing
                5. aglet
                  aglet 3 July 2020 08: 58 New
                  0
                  let's compare with the performance of Russia in 1913? and “before Putin”, industry and agriculture were much more developed in the country, which gave jobs to hundreds of thousands of people, not to mention medicine, education. not all the remnants of the USSR were destroyed, but it was bad with the millards, yes, they were much less . Putin's success in the destruction of industry is unsurpassed, Yeltsin was far from him. so a good student goes beyond a teacher. so he went. prices rose how many times, from "to Putin"? the amount of money circulating in the country has grown so many times, due to this mass of statistics, it also broadcasts about “unprecedented successes.” But you, observing how the tiles are shifted “for the season”, really think that everything is fine. you just don’t see how a country from a producing one turned into a merchant, and moreover, it trades mostly foreign goods. of ours, we have only oil and gas and a round timber. so, yes, everything is wonderful, especially on TV
                6. DVR
                  DVR 3 July 2020 09: 04 New
                  0
                  And not a single "number" except:
                  for 1913?

                  Again, one slogan, a direct lie and demagogy.
  • Region68
    Region68 1 July 2020 10: 18 New
    -2
    But didn’t he defend to the end? Did he withdraw from the election?
  • aglet
    aglet 1 July 2020 15: 35 New
    0
    “Even pensions cannot be brought into proper condition. There is no money ...”
    here, panimaish, we must choose between Chechnya and Russia. although, what’s the choice, the Russians, they can understand if the leader asks, they will switch to bread and water, this is easy for us, if only there was no war, and proud Chechen dzhigits are not at all. Shariah forbids working, they cannot, stealing, robbing and bandit- national custom. Therefore, if you have a choice, add a pension in Russia, or reduce the tribute to Chechnya, the choice will be unambiguous. Ramzan is closer to the body than Vanya
  • Goblin_1974
    Goblin_1974 30 June 2020 20: 14 New
    13
    I fully support this idea. Only under one condition. With the introduction of criminal liability for politicians for failure to fulfill election promises. With the subsequent confiscation of everything and all relatives.
  • Vicontas
    Vicontas 30 June 2020 20: 17 New
    -2
    Fools are helpful! But there are also honest ones!
  • hroft
    hroft 30 June 2020 20: 21 New
    +3
    How a tick grabbed power
  • albert
    albert 30 June 2020 20: 22 New
    +5
    Well, at least the king didn’t offer it. And even then they’ll guess. no
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 30 June 2020 20: 38 New
      14
      Quote: albert
      although the king did not offer.

      It’s not tomorrow, everything will be after the vote and zeroing
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 30 June 2020 21: 36 New
        0
        Anatoly is great, but I liked the mustachioed one more which, as a person with a specialty, no one is funny, a buffoon at court
  • Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 30 June 2020 20: 25 New
    10
    Quote: DVR
    Russia needs a strong-willed leader who does not forgive the sacking of the country, betrayal, lies and deceit in any branch of the power vertical.

    Bulk or Platoshkin? Who are you suggesting? Maybe Grudinin?

    When Putin leaves in a natural way, what will we do, whom will we call to rule?
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 30 June 2020 23: 59 New
      +7
      Quote: Junior Ensign
      When Putin leaves in a natural way, what will we do, whom will we call to rule?

      They say in Egypt there was a tradition: together with Pharaoh, the closest circle was preserved in the pyramid. We should recall this technique.
      And its signatories are quickly changing hands — such is life.
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  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 30 June 2020 20: 26 New
    13
    I think that not only Chubais and Rottenberg, but also Dear Western partners of citizen Putin, will join this brilliant and very patriotic initiative with pleasure. For example, only today, 1,5 billion dollars (105 billion rubles) were paid to Poland as a pleasant bonus to the gas already paid for gas transit.
    Well, where else in the whole universe will the Poles find such a frantic Russian patriot as Putin and his team?
    They will not find anywhere!
  • imobile2008
    imobile2008 30 June 2020 20: 27 New
    +3
    So and so for life, no? if suddenly outlives the constitution will be customized!
  • Dr. Frankenstucker
    Dr. Frankenstucker 30 June 2020 20: 28 New
    +2
    Yes norms, now there will be a race race
    And I’m Mr. PJ even more!
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 30 June 2020 20: 28 New
    12
    Tereshkova now regrets that she suggested a little. Ramzan blocked everything. It remains for Cyril to "reveal the messiah." laughing
  • mag nit
    mag nit 30 June 2020 20: 31 New
    +9
    What initiative, this academician Kadyrov.
  • Million
    Million 30 June 2020 20: 33 New
    +7
    You might not have to speak. Who then will feed the academician? Yes, and they can remove him, give power to another clan
    1. aglet
      aglet 1 July 2020 15: 59 New
      +2
      "they can also remove, give power to another clan"
      tribe, my friend, tribe. they still live in this, in everything
  • Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 30 June 2020 20: 35 New
    +7
    Quote: Attack aircraft
    Well now men will begin ..... laughing This article is for our "fighters with the regime" ... Let the steam let out! The amendments are actually adopted ..)))) laughing
    Watch and remember who writes what .. Now everything will gather here!

    That is, you acknowledge that the amendments were for twisting the counter and enthronement?
  • Docx2032
    Docx2032 30 June 2020 20: 39 New
    0
    And here in Belarus it would be good to introduce lifelong rule constitutionally. The situation when a flock of sheep chooses a shepherd is absurd by definition. The wise and dignified rule of my beloved Leader is the path to the well-being and prosperity of subjects.
  • cokol-xnumx
    cokol-xnumx 30 June 2020 20: 41 New
    -9
    I support, let him rule to the maximum, Russia has grown stronger and people are living right now, we will vote for amendments tomorrow and in general everything will go in a bundle, stop whining - it's time to work for the good of the homeland.
    1. hroft
      hroft 30 June 2020 21: 02 New
      +9
      And you are probably the same middle class with a salary of 17 thousand rubles, which Putin spoke about, and which he dreams of working hard until he was 65 and then with a smile and joy to go to a "comfortable" old age with a pension of 13 thousand?
      1. DVR
        DVR 1 July 2020 00: 46 New
        -11
        And you are probably the same middle class with a salary of 17 thousand rubles, which Putin spoke about, and which he dreams of working hard until he was 65 and then with a smile and joy to go to a "comfortable" old age with a pension of 13 thousand?

        Are you one of the ever-moaning rogues here, some of whom are so poor that they complain about rising electricity prices? The poor ones complain all day and groan, as if their income would rise from this. Or maybe it really rises? laughing
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 01: 42 New
          +9
          Quote: DVR
          Are you one of the ever-moaning rogues here, some of whom are so impoverished that they complain about rising electricity prices?

          It’s you who have never met real beggars, who do not have the Internet, and who cannot write, all that they think about people like you. Ears would have wilted.
          1. DVR
            DVR 1 July 2020 02: 08 New
            -7
            It’s you who have never met real beggars, who do not have the Internet, and who cannot write, all that they think about people like you. Ears would have wilted.
            And how many such beggars are there in Russia? There are beggars in any country. The horses, also against the oligarchs, stood on the Maidan, they ate Nuland's pies, already "popped behind their ears." They wanted salaries of 2000 euros, visa-free travel, etc., because they were promised everyones like our Navalny and Platoshkins. It’s better, are there no more beggars? They were cast off in full and guzzle with full spoons. We don’t need such shit, do not lead us to this.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 02: 19 New
              +7
              Quote: DVR
              And how many such beggars are there in Russia?

              Enough, you just prefer not to notice them and pass them by.
              Quote: DVR
              The horses, too, against the oligarchs stood on the Maidan,

              And what have the horses to do with it?
              Quote: DVR
              salaries of 2000 euros, visa-free travel, etc., because they were promised all sorts of things like our Navalny and Platoshkins.

              So, this is when Navalny and Platoshkin promised a salary of 2000 euros?
              1. DVR
                DVR 1 July 2020 02: 27 New
                -6
                And what have the horses to do with it?

                Well, what do you and your like-minded people constantly translate the discussion into the field of a meaningless set of words? Well, at least a word would be essentially.
                If you are serious in your questions, then it makes no sense to answer. If not, then even more so.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 02: 32 New
                  +4
                  Quote: DVR
                  Well, what do you and your like-minded people constantly translate the discussion into the field of a meaningless set of words?

                  This you always translate into: "Do you want to like in Ukraine?"
                  I repeat the question:
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  So, this is when Navalny and Platoshkin promised a salary of 2000 euros?
                  1. DVR
                    DVR 1 July 2020 02: 51 New
                    -3
                    This you always translate into: "Do you want to like in Ukraine?"

                    But is this analogy not relevant? I’m not interested in meaningless conversations, understand, except for one-time comments for fun.
                    Navalny with Platoshkin promised a salary of 2000

                    But they promise nothing? Is it not clear that this is an analogy. For Navalny, the promise is much more global and meaningless, the same as the promise of 2000 euros. And their implementation is either impossible or direct harm to Russia. Ordinary populism. Yes, and he himself is muddy with completely opaque financing and reporting. This "Yale boy" is interesting to me only in the sense that it continues to remain the political dwarf as it is. I already wrote about Platoshkin on the branch.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 1 July 2020 03: 09 New
                      +5
                      Quote: DVR
                      Is it not clear that this is an analogy.

                      No, it’s not clear. I don’t see what Navalny promises there, he’s just a parasite on the boil of power. A useful parasite, however.
                      Quote: DVR
                      I already wrote about Platoshkin on the branch.

                      Did not see.
                      1. DVR
                        DVR 1 July 2020 10: 40 New
                        0
                        Something with logic is completely out of your mind wink First, they asked the question two times:
                        I repeat the question:
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        So, this is when Navalny and Platoshkin promised a salary of 2000 euros?

                        I answered you:
                        But they promise nothing? Is it not clear that this is an analogy. For Navalny, the promise is much more global and meaningless, the same as the promise of 2000 euros. And their implementation is either impossible or direct harm to Russia. Ordinary populism. Yes, and he himself is muddy with completely opaque financing and reporting. This "Yale boy" is interesting to me only in the sense that it continues to remain the political dwarf, which it is.

                        What are you writing now:
                        No, it’s not clear. I don’t see what Navalny promises there, he’s just a parasite on the boil of power. A useful parasite, however.

                        A strange conversation turned out.

                        Did not see.

                        Searching the page for a keyword - business for two seconds. I will not print the same text several times on the same branch. It will be inconvenient for others to read.
        2. hroft
          hroft 1 July 2020 16: 09 New
          -1
          Dear you, our "rogue", the population today is shrinking like a spring that will unclench at one point, and you will see and hear not a rogue groan, but a righteous popular anger that will carry this power along with a scribbled rabble like you
          1. DVR
            DVR 1 July 2020 18: 24 New
            +1
            Dear you, our "rogue", the population today is shrinking like a spring that will unclench at one point, and you will see and hear not a rogue groan, but a righteous popular anger that will carry this power along with a scribbled rabble like you

            There will be no such, calm down. Of course you want and make efforts, and money for these purposes as "a fool shag." But in the short term (10-15 years) it definitely will not work. We will live in peace, build and develop our country. Here you are not there (Libya, Turkey, Egypt, Georgia, Ukraine ...) smile
            1. hroft
              hroft 1 July 2020 19: 20 New
              -1
              To develop a country? Take a look beyond your nose, the country is not that it is not developing, but is rapidly degrading in all spheres, only the welfare of the Putin elite is developing, Russia now rests on the shoulders of ordinary hard workers, and our government decided to crap on their neck and at the expense of them all to solve their problems, but there is a limit to everything, and yes, Russia is not Turkey, Libya, Ukraine, and everything can be much tougher
              1. DVR
                DVR 1 July 2020 19: 35 New
                0
                Develop a country? You look beyond your nose, the country doesn’t just not develop, but rapidly degrades in all areas, only the welfare of the Putin elite develops,
                I see perfectly beyond the nose, I see how people live, how roads are built and what quality, how infrastructure is changing, I see numbers. Why talk with slogans? Let's get the numbers, compare the indicators of the late 90s and today's, and everything will be seen as a country
                rapidly degrading in all areas
                I have already cited one of the links above, I can still cite it if necessary.
                1. hroft
                  hroft 1 July 2020 20: 39 New
                  -1
                  You’re ridiculous, what are the roads? What are the indicators of the 90s? What are the numbers? You better compare Kabaeva’s car for 300 million for an order that partially owns the first channel collecting money for the treatment of sick children from ordinary people, or Rogozin’s salary of more than 100 thousand rubles a day with the life of a simple person not even from Moscow, such as you all "God's dew", an ordinary stupid demagogue, I dare not delay anymore hi
                  1. DVR
                    DVR 1 July 2020 21: 11 New
                    0
                    You’re ridiculous, what are the roads? What are the indicators of the 90s? What are the numbers? You better compare Kabaeva’s car for 300 million for an order that partially owns the first channel collecting money for the treatment of sick children from ordinary people, or Rogozin’s salary of more than 100 thousand rubles a day with the life of a simple person not even from Moscow, such as you all "God's dew", an ordinary stupid demagogue, I dare not delay anymore

                    I understand that you can’t bring the numbers, again solid slogans. I accept your discharge, I am sympathetic to your indignation. I won’t even answer you as a “stupid demagogue”, although you managed to prove it brilliantly hi
  • Undecim
    Undecim 30 June 2020 20: 47 New
    +3
    Kadyrov took the initiative for a "lifelong" presidency for Vladimir Putin
    All the "initiators" do not reach Count G.I. Golovkin? Can they save a surprise by September next year?
  • maiman61
    maiman61 30 June 2020 20: 51 New
    +3
    Two terms in a row by the president! And not a second more!
    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 30 June 2020 21: 16 New
      +5
      This is good provided that once the built system works in any situation at the top - a representative function remains. He spent two terms in a box, generated slogans - everything, to a dump. Unfortunately, this is impossible with us. Any person tries first of all to show his indispensability and therefore claim to be "for long summers". Considering what kind of staff of lizoblyudov was bought for this, it’s ready to serve and lick shoes for its tangible nishtyaki - pfff .... All the rules. In essence, we have remained a monarchist-concerned country. We need a father and judge. With the annual show of favors in the form of 'straight lines'. And not a damn thing will change.
      Let it be
    2. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 30 June 2020 22: 55 New
      -1
      Quote: maiman61
      Two terms in a row by the president! And not a second more!

      In the aggregate?
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 30 June 2020 20: 55 New
    -3
    And the candidacies for filling the post (except for some colonel) about which I have heard for the first time. As before, gentlemen, the protesters were not voiced. That is, the rally is idle talk however. hi
    1. populist
      populist 30 June 2020 22: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: Benzorez
      And the candidacies for filling the post (except for some colonel) about which I have heard for the first time. As before, gentlemen, the protesters were not voiced. That is, the rally is idle talk however. hi

      Kindly - Andrey from Chelyabinsk, Sylvester, Roman Skomorokhov good
      If not enough, then Tatyana love
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 30 June 2020 22: 14 New
        +3
        And what about me?!. What a twist! I was aiming at this chair.
        They didn’t trust ... That's because people ...
        1. populist
          populist 30 June 2020 22: 30 New
          0

          Gas cutter (Vitaliy) Today, 22:14
          And what about me?!. What a twist! I was aiming at this chair.
          They didn’t trust ... That's because people ...

          Alas and Ah hi
          The site has many members worthy of the presidency.
          I brought the most-most. But in general, several dozen can be safely put forward. drinks
        2. maiman61
          maiman61 1 July 2020 13: 37 New
          0
          I will vote for you! And there will be 101% who supported the new president!
  • flicker
    flicker 30 June 2020 21: 00 New
    -14
    And we seem not even able to read what we write laughing
    The head of Chechnya actually decided to call a spade a spade in relation to the institution of the presidency in our country.

    And then we write:
    Ramzan Kadyrov:

    I always say: we must elect Vladimir Putin as president for life.

    Where does it say about the INSTITUTE of the presidency?

    Or between the PERSONALITY of the president and the INSTITUTE of the president do not see the difference ?!

    In the same quote, Kadyrov explains WHY:
    Today, who can replace him? There is no such political leader on a global scale

    And this is a fact.
    ---
    Try to name a modern leader comparable to Putin?
    In fact, the above only emphasizes the contribution of PERSONALITY of Putin to the strengthening of Russia.
    ---
    ... then, in fact, it all comes down to a lifelong presidency for Vladimir Putin.

    Are there any other amendments there?
    Unnoticed or pretending not to notice? wink
    there were already “life-long” leaders whose demise for the state often came “suddenly” and led to a sharp upsurge of the struggle for the royal throne or the secretary general’s chair among representatives of the elites
    But in ordinary elections, a surge in the struggle between the elites does not occur?
    No? laughing
    ---
    Or maybe yes?
    Or maybe that’s why someone really wants to bring this surge (by 2024), rather than delay it (this surge) for another 6 or more years (by 2030)?
    ---
    In fact, Kadyrov stands for stability in Russia, and someone is diligently wanting to destroy this stability.
    ---
    1. 30143
      30143 30 June 2020 22: 14 New
      +4
      Stability in robbing ordinary people?
      1. flicker
        flicker 1 July 2020 00: 30 New
        -4
        Just to blurt out, huh?
        Ordinary people, in comparison with life in 90 live much better.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 1 July 2020 03: 34 New
          +9
          Quote: flicker
          Ordinary people, in comparison with life in 90 live much better.

          And compared to the 70s? belay
          What do you always poke us “out of the fire into the fire”? How did they feel better? Garbage containers become plastic?
        2. 30143
          30143 1 July 2020 08: 27 New
          +4
          Dear, flicker!
          Unfortunately, indeed, you are thrown from one extreme to another.
          90th have already passed ....
          Compare with 2010-2017 years.
          And you will be sad.
          Just do not nod towards Ukraine, US sanctions.
          In the Russian Federation there is everything, it is self-sufficient.
          But, once again, I am convinced that in addition to weapons, their squabble, and militant patriotism, the country's leaders do not want to improve the lives of ordinary Russians.
          Here in Ukraine, the deputy clearly explained, without hiding that ... there are wrong children. And, accordingly, people. And I personally understand that you do not need to hope for them.
          And you always hide behind a mask to protect the interests of citizens. And do not explain which ones. My uncle, the kingdom of heaven, waited 7 years for the mayor to repair the roof. They signed some kind of memorandum .... I wanted to fix it on my next visit, but he refused ... THE MAYOR PROMISED! did not wait.
          And you say ... blurted out!
          1. flicker
            flicker 1 July 2020 10: 30 New
            0
            90th have already passed ....
            Compare with 2010-2017 years.
            And you will be sad.

            We are discussing the years of Putin’s rule. We give them an assessment. You can only evaluate by comparing with something.
            ---
            So we compare the period of Putin’s reign with the non-Putin period, therefore we take 90 years.
            Compare with 2010-2017 years.
            And you will be sad.
            I will surprise you, but these are the years of Putin’s rule.
            Just do not nod towards Ukraine, US sanctions.
            laughing Is this a technique? With the help of which real, powerful arguments are knocked out?
            In the Russian Federation there is everything, it is self-sufficient.
            Come on?!
            And what then can be said about the USSR, which was much larger than Russia and the potential was much more powerful, but this somehow did not save him.
            ---
            We return to
            Just do not nod towards Ukraine, US sanctions.
            In the Russian Federation there is everything, it is self-sufficient.
            Russia was part of the USSR, some of the important enterprises of the USSR economy were located in Ukraine (shipbuilding, aircraft manufacturing, engine building, etc., etc.), with the collapse of the Union, cooperation between Russian and Ukrainian enterprises continued, but after the Maidan, cooperation was destroyed, which affected many Russian enterprises.
            Russia was forced to urgently seek a replacement, under the conditions of sanctions it turned out to be extremely difficult, it was necessary to build new enterprises or or re-profile others.
            ---
            Everyone just talked about the global world, about the global world economy, i.e. on the interdependence of state economies from each other. The control levers of this global economy were (and still remain, mainly financial) in the United States.
            ---
            And at the same time, you propose not to take into account the sanctions of the United States, but, in fact, the entire world economy?
            ---
            Another thing is that the model of the global economy created by the USA is collapsing, plus we are getting closer to a self-sufficient economy and all these sanctions are not so noticeable to us.
            ***
            There are a lot of problems, but Russia is clearly taking a different course, the course towards independence, the amendments are confirmation of this.
            And we’ll also fix the roofs.
            1. 30143
              30143 1 July 2020 14: 39 New
              0
              Maybe you are right.
              But ... if you compare like this, then you can take neighboring Georgia. There, it seems, everything was "fine" in Saakashvili’s first cadence. And then from the words of the locals, he began to freak out .... girls, a marafet and away we go. That is, there is early Saakashvili, Putin, etc.
              Therefore, I considered it correct to compare different periods of the reign of GDP.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 1 July 2020 03: 31 New
      +8
      Quote: flicker
      In fact, the above only emphasizes the contribution of PERSONALITY of Putin to the strengthening of Russia.

      But you can’t do this, lick!
      A very positive (today, now) would look like a personal verification by Vladimir Vladimirovich of the implementation of the results of the elimination of the ecological catastrophe voiced by Potanin!
      This could immediately “kill two birds with one stone”, freeing the region from a lying leader and enriching the country's budget by $ 19 billion and three yachts for tourists to walk along the Crimean coast.
      Based on the results of the audit, it would be possible to consider the question of lifting the moratorium on the death penalty, and amending the Criminal Code, where to cancel the absorption of one sentence by another.
      1. 30143
        30143 1 July 2020 08: 38 New
        -2
        Putin’s personality is already inscribed in history. And in gold letters. But you must be able to leave on time. It is clear that after the failure with sanctions he needs to remove all questions and leave the winner. But time is gone. Therefore, it is extended in order to leave a bright image about its rule. But with this environment, he will not succeed. They do not know how to work differently.
        We must do, like Stalin - periodically shake the apparatus. And not so much that failed one thing, so to increase it, and not in oblivion. Or to jail.
        But, age is not the same. Russia needs a new leader who can offer a new line to resolve all contradictions. But he is not! I didn’t. After me, at least a flood. Because with such a position it is unclear who will come to power. And that is scary. Now was a good time to bring a new face, but no! Fear.
        However, it is sad from byzopelessness and despair ...
    3. maiman61
      maiman61 1 July 2020 13: 39 New
      0
      Stability? The graveyard is also stable, only no one wants such stability.
  • Sergo go
    Sergo go 30 June 2020 21: 00 New
    +2
    let out
  • General D
    General D 30 June 2020 21: 06 New
    13
    Putin ended the war, giving up the entire population of Russia to the Chechens. And now these bandits, their language does not turn to be called warriors, are actively nightmare this country. Squeeze business, eliminate competitors. Where by force, where with the help of an administrative resource. All courts, all power looks 6a this disgrace, through fingers. They arrange their belts in places holy for Russian people, rape, beat, maim. Shame.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 30 June 2020 21: 07 New
    -7
    what As popular wisdom says: "Make a fool pray to God, so he will break his forehead." GDP is in place, but why be so zealous ?!
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 30 June 2020 21: 28 New
    0
    Vova do not forget to feed the Caucasus already in languages
  • Junior Warrant Officer
    Junior Warrant Officer 30 June 2020 21: 32 New
    +9
    - The first was the astronaut Tereshkova
    - Today, the former terrorist Kadyrov
    - Tomorrow the biker Zladostanov will say
    - Then the baton will be taken by actor Stephen Seagal, fighter Jeff Monson, boxer Roy Jones and Patriarch Kirill will complete the process ...
    No, wait! And where is the opinion of the participants in the show Dom-2? Why is the longest-running project not giving its blessing for an eternal presidency?
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 30 June 2020 21: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Junior Ensign
      - The first was the astronaut Tereshkova
      - Today, the former terrorist Kadyrov
      - Tomorrow the biker will say Zaldostanov
      - Then the baton will be taken by actor Stephen Seagal, fighter Jeff Monson, boxer Roy Jones and Patriarch Kirill will complete the process ...
      No, wait! And where is the opinion of the participants in the show Dom-2? Why is the longest-running project not giving its blessing for an eternal presidency?

      You have outdated information - the Surgeon in 2014 after the Crimea offered good
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 30 June 2020 23: 12 New
      -1
      Jeff Monson on the side of the Communist Party.
  • Dmitry Donskoy_2
    Dmitry Donskoy_2 30 June 2020 21: 45 New
    -2
    Only with him can one live like that.
  • Esaul
    Esaul 30 June 2020 21: 46 New
    +5
    I’d better suggest - a life-long criminal sentence for Putin and Kadyrov!
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 30 June 2020 21: 49 New
    +2
    More than 100 years ago, on January 22 (9), 1917, Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov-Lenin uttered his famous words (“We, the elderly, may not live to see the decisive battles of the coming revolution”). And then he was “nobody and he could not be called” ... And not even a year passed before he became the Head of New Russia ... So, in vain some personalities are crucified here that the new President of Russia is not among us - he already exists, we don’t know about him ... bully
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 30 June 2020 22: 05 New
      -2
      When you find out, don’t take it as labor to inform fellow citizens.
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 30 June 2020 22: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: Benzorez
        When you find out, don’t take it as labor to inform fellow citizens.

        Yes, no one knew about Putin a year before his presidency ... bully
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 30 June 2020 22: 43 New
          -2
          Damn me take it !!!
          A simple question, what will be the proposals?
          You are answered: this season the grain harvest is less, the more ...
          A solid chime is worth it. Literally speaking.
          It became boring. hi
          1. Virus-free crown
            Virus-free crown 30 June 2020 23: 13 New
            +1
            Quote: Benzorez
            Damn me take it !!!
            A simple question, what will be the proposals?
            You are answered: this season the grain harvest is less, the more ...
            A solid chime is worth it. Literally speaking.
            It became boring. hi

            Do you need to start pouring quotes from Chinese wisdom right now? wassat tongue
            I wrote directly - NOBODY !!! does not know )))
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 30 June 2020 22: 05 New
    +2
    I remember it was already 10 years ago, lifelong ...
    Licked and licked ...
  • Radikal
    Radikal 30 June 2020 22: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Black
    .... and then immediately to the mausoleum repeat

    The question is which one? winked lol hi
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 30 June 2020 22: 59 New
      -1
      Quote: Radikal
      Quote: Black
      .... and then immediately to the mausoleum repeat

      The question is which one? winked lol hi

      How in what? In Vovkin ...
  • 30143
    30143 30 June 2020 22: 10 New
    +1
    belay belay belay belay I have no words...
  • Radikal
    Radikal 30 June 2020 22: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Quote: Svarog
    Chechnya was calm under the USSR and before that it was regularly reassured .. so don’t worry .. they will calm or calm

    Was it calm? I walked in those mountains. They showed me the ruins of the children's tuberculosis sanatorium, which the Chechens CUT TO before the Germans arrived. There was something to evict them for ... and when they were returned, hefty Chechen guys walked along the Moscow-Grozny train and sat down to the passengers, told how they offended them ... It was not an easy task to reconcile them. And Putin dealt with it ... I would have looked, who would have done the same without cutting Chechnya without exception ...

    When "walked" - maybe at one time "walked"? sad
  • Speedy
    Speedy 30 June 2020 22: 19 New
    -8
    How does it bother you)) !!! Svarogs, gardomiry and other breastbones)). Rejoice! You will live forever under Putin and suffer! And that’s yours. You cannot do without suffering.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 30 June 2020 22: 22 New
    -1
    Quote: carstorm 11
    I put cons for the fact that I am German) shikardos)

    Eat a Shekalakka, take a sip of coffee, at worst take a beer with a beer - exhale, and everything will work out ... Fritz. lol wassat tongue
  • Stalllker
    Stalllker 30 June 2020 22: 25 New
    -1
    Now whining starts again
  • Radikal
    Radikal 30 June 2020 22: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Interlocutor
    Communists and socialists managed to create the most powerful empire,

    I agree. But sorry, they managed to tear it out. Yes, it’s sincerely done that God forbid once again to pass this easy trouble.

    A simplified-primitive look - are you serious, or (what a bad word) in the trend? lol hi
  • Radikal
    Radikal 30 June 2020 22: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: maiman61
    All the dirt went abroad! And they dare to open their mouths.

    Surname, pliiz. sad
  • Radikal
    Radikal 30 June 2020 22: 33 New
    +3
    Kadyrov took the initiative for a "lifelong" presidency for Vladimir Putin
    This is understandable - chiefly knows what he wants .... sad
  • Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 30 June 2020 22: 45 New
    +1
    Take the hookah from Ramzanka already ...