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I am a rebel who once changed his country to a beautiful package

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Well, the voting has begun, and those who, with the stubbornness of a rhinoceros, have opposed amendments to the Constitution of Russia, have already realized that they stood against the wind. There are no opponents. People, not paying attention to these "strongholds of truth", vote. This is the main thing today. People express their opinion. The understanding came that “I didn’t vote for it, which means that I won’t be guilty of what happened later”, it doesn’t pass. I can’t sit back.


How has the political climate in the country


Have you noticed how the political climate in the country has changed? Previously, before campaigning for amendments, it was more or less clear who is who. There was a group of ardent “Westerners” who, out of habit, smeared all of our mud and praised everything “there,” foreign. There were those who were kind of against the West, for Russia, but another, with a different power. There were no other options for these views, but the essence was simple. We are against the power of "EP" and Putin. Well, and supporters of the government. Those who are always in favor.

What do I personally see today? Suddenly, campaigning for or against amendments divided the country according to a completely different principle. The name of the party or social movement is completely irrelevant. It doesn’t matter what you are or how you say it. We learned to speak beautifully and intelligibly. It's expensive to watch our political shows. Opinions for every taste and color. But, by and large, all these masterpieces of oratory are no longer inspiring anyone. We understood the difference between word and deed.

Today we are divided according to a completely different principle. Look how many Western politicians spoke out about the Russian constitution, how many media outlets published materials on this topic. How many seasoned analysts and party leaders washed the bones of literally every amendment. The West howled from some. And, in my opinion, most Western leaders have opposed a change in the liberal constitution.

And here interesting things surfaced already among our political elite. Someone spoke unconditionally in favor. Someone ardently defended their options for amendments, someone immediately took the position “against”. Here it is, the border that today divided the country. We divided into those who are against Western influence and want to live in an independent country, and those who are for the West. Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents.

I think that there are not so many supporters of the United States as a country simply dying of the desire to make Russia great. But supporters of the US point of view on the amendments, again I will clarify, the Russian constitution, we had enough. Somehow puzzles don't work out for me.

I support the enemy’s point of view, but I want my happiness. This does not happen. Are you clean or dirty, big or small ...

I don’t want to remember about some large political parties. According to the old, still Soviet, memory, these are popular parties that advocate for the common man. And out of habit supported by part of the people. But what happened? Offended the poor party members. They did not accept the amendments that they wanted to push through. So, what is next? And then, right with the red banner in the camp of the opponents ... It happens.

I was already a rebel and lost my country


I am from the generation that today is accused of having ruined the country. It is she who is guilty of the destruction of the USSR. Therefore, I have the right to share some thoughts with my younger colleagues, with those who are unhappy today and want to destroy the “whole world of violence”. Those who are already writing to me that after the vote, where they managed to see a couple of “ticks” in the column “for” by other voters, they became sad for the country, sad for its future.

The fact that Western countries are constantly engaged in us is no secret. So it was, it is, it will be so. We are opponents, competitors, enemies. No matter what politicians and party leaders say. The amount of resources on the planet is limited. A handful of countries use the lion's share of these resources. The rest get crumbs. The Hungry want more. But then the "well-fed" will receive less. The desire to live worse due to a lack of these same resources among the "well-fed" is not observed.

In the USSR, we young people lived a calm, predictable life. Kindergarten, school, vocational school or technical school, if you are not a good student, an institute after a decade, moving to another region after graduation, creating a family and life, life, life ... We even had the border of becoming an adult: “Nothing, will return from the army by man. ”

We ate good foods. For today's young man, it will probably sound wild, but a bottle of beer in the store did not stand for more than three days. And the main “filler” in the sausage was paper ... Our girls went to school in cashmere dresses. Yes, it was a school uniform. From natural cashmere, such brown, veterans remember. We practiced in free sports sections, went to free circles.

We were careless. And our parents were careless. But we were just like youth today. We were unhappy! The BBC or Voice of America, which we listened to for recording new music, told us how bad it was. And we believed! A pure wool suit for 150 rubles did not suit me. My dream was jeans for 180-200 rubles. And all the talk that this is a robe, I considered stupid ...

The first jeans I sewed a friend. From colored cord. The same that is used in the manufacture of car tires. Yes, and "got" it at such a plant. Speckled jeans. Just because there was a real metal thread in the material ...

But Seva Novgorodtsev told me that I was not free. He was a popular presenter of the time. Many told me that I live poorly, in between musical compositions. I looked at the smuggled Playboy, flaunted at Levi Strauss ... I had an American plastic bag with a Marlboro cowboy pattern! And I had a tragedy when someone cut this package a little ...

And then there was the army. Which really set my brains. And millions of others are out of luck. They remained young, angry, unhappy, ready for conflict. To be honest, I still can’t understand how we, well-educated, well-fed, living in apartments with all conveniences, not knowing the problems with clothes, school, leisure, and prospects in life, were led into this ...

Yes, probably, we really exchanged our country for beautiful packaging and jeans. We exchanged our future for imaginary freedom. Therefore, it is worth remembering this. More precisely, remind today's rebels. Do not destroy what has already been created. They don’t build on the ruins. Build on a specially prepared site. A normal owner will never destroy what is built, if there is an opportunity to finalize, modernize, improve ...

Finish or continue


Soon we will know the result of the vote. We will modernize the country or wait again for the “tractor”, which will simply destroy it with its bucket. Personally, I have already lost a country that I was unhappy with due to the lack of a beautiful package. Do not want anymore. I no longer want to live the way they live there. I want to live as I like.

Then, in the Soviet past, it was easier to deceive me. I watched American films on the Soviet "VM-12." I watched western magazines and listened to the stories of emigrants about their beautiful life in London or Washington. Today, in the age of information technology, it has become more difficult to deceive. The network allows you to see the real life there, if you wish.

Yes, and there are many opportunities to see the world with your own eyes. If you wish, you can always find a way to see the West from the inside. To live there or even stay if you want to. But you don’t have to break your country.

Let the USA remain the USA, France France, Germany Germany, and Russia Russia ... Youth is a shortcoming, which, unfortunately, is quickly passing. Someday rebels and freedom lovers will understand me.
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  1. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
    ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 28 June 2020 10: 13
    +7
    I voted for amendments to the Constitution.
    1. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 10: 54
      +24
      ANDREY MIKHAILOV_
      I voted for amendments to the Constitution.
      MALADETs, buy yourself a candy, and you yourself, now you will definitely not get anything from the government, except for extending the terms of zeroed out.
      For particularly stubborn proponents of voting, I have only ONE question. WHAT actually did you vote for? WHAT was such an amendment worth voting for in bulk?
      At least someone from the supporters of voting "FOR" can clearly tell me without pathos, FOR what actually you voted for?
      Of the sane amendments, there is NONE clearly articulated. For the indivisibility of borders - so there it is with a reservation on the demarcation of borders, under which you can bring anything from Kaliningrad to the Kuril Islands. For indexing pensions? So there is also no specifics, it can be indexed at 0,00001% and this will not contradict the Constitution.
      SO WHAT DID YOU VOTE FOR?
      And you voted for the expansion of the powers of the Federation Council, the nullification of the terms of the darkest and the elimination of it and the clique from any responsibility !!!
      My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go on my own and will not let my own go, so as not to betray the legitimacy of this farce!
      1. gurzuf
        gurzuf 28 June 2020 11: 07
        +8
        What exactly did you vote for? Please - I'm in favor of "zeroing". A counter question, only clearly - why does this amendment scare you?
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 11: 16
          +54
          Nothing, except that the authorities finally broke away from the people and prescribed themselves a complete indulgence in actions in the future and a complete lack of responsibility for their actions, even if they would be criminal in relation to Russia. Are you for it? The flag is in your hands ... I am AGAINST!
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 28 June 2020 11: 20
            +21
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            The flag in your hands ... I am AGAINST!

            I STRONGLY SUPPORT !!!
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 11: 30
              -4
              Malyuta
              I STRONGLY SUPPORT !!!
              Judging by the number of minuses, the vote will take place as the authorities should. Forgive the minusculers, but I just want to say: THE WAR HAS TAKEN NOT ALL THE SICK! You are being pushed into another scam, and you are being fooled again!
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 28 June 2020 11: 48
                -6
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                You are being pushed into another scam

                yes not a scam! Remember the territorial claims of GDP to Kakhakhstan, the Baltic states, Ukraine! Do you think they will give it yourself? laughing
                War?
                90 years ago it was already
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                THE WAR HAS NOT ALL ALL THE PATIENTS!

                sad to look at all this
                1. Varyag_0711
                  Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 11: 57
                  -1
                  Silvestr (Sylvester)
                  Remember the territorial claims of GDP to Kakhakhstan, the Baltic states, Ukraine! Do you think they will give it yourself? laughing war?
                  Well, let’s put no one will ask the Limitrophs and will not: they will give - they will not. The hegemon will weaken, but it will still weaken, either they will give it up themselves, or they will come running back to Russia.
                  In the end, the option of Crimea has not been canceled. They will hold a referendum and a la huh ... The scheme has already been tested and worked out. There is no sense in fearing sanctions, they are forever now. So I do not see any obstacles. And not one of the former Union republics is able to fight on its own with Russia, only with the help of the hegemon. But as Georgia showed, the hegemon is not a panacea. The United States will not fit in even for Kazakhstan in which case. Well, unless China wants to share Kazakhstan.
                  And so, I do not see any obstacles. The West and the USA, including now, are not up to us; they would solve their problems without loss. So it's time ...
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 28 June 2020 12: 07
                    +3
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    They will hold a referendum and a la huh ... The scheme has already been tested and worked out.

                    sure?
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    The hegemon will weaken, but it will still weaken, either they will give it up themselves, or they will come running back to Russia.

                    you are not like these

                    While the fat dries, the thin one dies
                    1. lopvlad
                      lopvlad 28 June 2020 12: 27
                      +15
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      While the fat dries, the thin one dies


                      if only his fat, as well as his muscles, is not inflatable, stemming from the release of a green piece of paper that has not been provided for a long time with goods or labor made on it.
                      The British Empire did not print such candy wrappers (every pound released was provided with goods and labor) but still collapsed.
                      So the only product the United States produces is the dollar as the world's reserve currency. It will collapse and the bold will instantly turn thin, like Britain did when the main diamond in the form of India fell out of its crown.
                      1. Terrible GMO
                        Terrible GMO 28 June 2020 18: 22
                        0
                        Quote: lopvlad
                        if only his fat, as well as his muscles, is not inflatable, stemming from the release of a green piece of paper that has not been provided for a long time with goods or labor made on it.

                        The world has changed, now no one is measured by tons of smelted pig iron or mined ore. Technology and the service sector are running the show and rest assured that the United States will have the strength to hold these positions long enough. Obviously longer than the Russian Federation can afford to swing.
                        You can answer, so they buy up technology and "brains", so who was in the way of Russia? She received little currency in the fat years for oil?

                        Quote: lopvlad
                        The British Empire did not print such candy wrappers (every pound released was provided with goods and labor) but still collapsed.

                        Two world wars, the influence of the two Super Powers, the collapse of the colonial system and the large-scale movement for the independence of the colonies, we no longer take into account?

                        Quote: lopvlad
                        So the only product that the United States produces is the dollar as the world's reserve currency.

                        Blessed is he who believes.
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                      4. DPN
                        DPN 28 June 2020 22: 30
                        -5
                        Well done. Everything is spelled correctly. +++
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                  2. dgonni
                    dgonni 28 June 2020 19: 42
                    -20
                    He laughed. No one will ever strive for Russia in their right mind! Especially considering the realities of recent years. Therefore, only by military means and not otherwise.
                    But the question of sanctions has not been canceled! Those that are now introduced? This is so, for proforma so to speak. What a little mind to correct the great geopolitics. Major sanctions have not yet been imposed. And this is an elementary disconnection from the payment system (SWIFT), after which load the oranges with wagons. And the second is oil and gas in exchange for food!
                    Notice! Not sowing material and agricultural chemistry, namely food! That no one will give a fishing rod, they will give a fish, so that they would not start to eat each other from hunger.
                    Or do you think that the GDP after the arrival of the small Vatican ambassador just passed back in terms of LDN?
                    By the way, knocking Russia out of the oil market based on UN sanctions is just a dream. The market is stabilizing, prices will also go up. But all this will be without Russia! Iran and Iraq can confirm!
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 28 June 2020 21: 19
                      +14
                      Quote: dgonni
                      Notice! Not sowing material and agricultural chemistry, namely food!

                      And that in Russia there is no food?
                      1. dgonni
                        dgonni 28 June 2020 21: 45
                        -11
                        And take an interest in yourself purely with what they sow and how they process the fields! 25-30% of sowing material Russian, everything else is from behind a hillock. So in cases where the yield of 40+ will be a dream come true. And everything will return to square one in 20-25 as in a union.
                      2. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 29 June 2020 12: 30
                        +14
                        And take an interest in yourself purely with what they sow and how they process the fields! 25-30% of sowing material Russian, everything else is from behind a hillock. So in cases where the yield of 40+ will be a dream come true. And everything will return to square one in 20-25 as in a union.

                        I am constantly interested, as I have been working in this area for more than one year. Winter (wheat, barley, etc.) is almost 100% our selection.
                      3. Paranoid50
                        Paranoid50 29 June 2020 16: 29
                        +6
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        I am constantly interested

                        Alexei, explaining dill for Russian grains is obviously a thankless task. yes laughing hi
                      4. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 30 June 2020 16: 54
                        +1
                        Sasha, let it develop. soldier
                      5. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 29 June 2020 19: 29
                        0
                        Quote: dgonni
                        25-30% of sowing material Russian, everything else is from behind a hillock. So in cases where the yield of 40+ will be a dream come true.

                        Will the source be?
                      6. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 30 June 2020 16: 53
                        +3
                        Practice 12 years in one of the largest agricultural holdings in the South. Will arrange such a source? Imported seeds are sunflower and sugar beets, partly corn (about 40% of the market). For corn, google the Ladoga seeds, I also worked there. Now the plant has expanded to all of Russia. The originators of winter seeds - the main one - is the Lukyanenko KNIISH (google, yourself, yourself). Soy is practically a domestic selection - VNIIMK named after Pustovoit (google it yourself). Where there is a lot of imports, it is plant protection products (plant protection products and spare parts for equipment, as well as imported equipment itself). Conclusion - sprinkle ashes on your head, preferably, agricultural workers work quietly.
                      7. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 30 June 2020 19: 22
                        -2
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        (google, herself, herself)

                        That is, again blah blah blah.
                    2. Tagan
                      Tagan 28 June 2020 22: 07
                      +20
                      "And this is an elemental disconnection from the payment system (SWIFT), and then load the oranges in wagons."
                      To write this, you need to at least roughly understand what SWIFT is. Where did you just read about such a magical power of SWIFT?
                    3. Pavel57
                      Pavel57 29 June 2020 01: 25
                      +9
                      dgonni (Djon), this year it is planned to sell grain to Russia more than the whole of Europe or the USA. A very good harvest is expected, although not a record 2017.
                      In general, grain sales have doubled since 2008.
                      1. dgonni
                        dgonni 29 June 2020 10: 27
                        -13
                        So no one argues that! But if there is no seed imported material, then there will be no modern crops. And you can immediately forget about export
                      2. Pavel57
                        Pavel57 29 June 2020 12: 02
                        +3
                        dgonni (Djon), you have a layout, how many domestic seeds, how many imported?
                    4. demos1111
                      demos1111 30 June 2020 15: 06
                      +2
                      And you happen to be from Ukraine?
                      I’m from Minsk and we’re sitting here, wondering what will happen next if our dad is 31 and the next cards are not signed.
                      How many of our hard workers are there in Russia before the coronovirus, 500-700 thousand people worked. And how do you take it and don’t open the borders (we didn’t enter quarantine) It’s clear that they have some kind of badge, but anyway, they’ll eat it.
                      Without the Russian market, we will get everything, or almost everything. And I just can’t understand what our rulers will do with a huge mass of hungry people left without work, because of not signing the integration in full and as a result of the loss of your market.
                      That’s why the alarming notes of our president about the collapse of the country slip through.
                      1. Uran53
                        Uran53 1 July 2020 13: 57
                        0
                        Ask Ukrainians how you will live. And Belarus is now actively promoted according to the Ukrainian scenario
                  3. Vladimir Kiev
                    Vladimir Kiev 29 June 2020 11: 32
                    -2
                    If this is a provocation, then it is very thick.
                    if you really think so ... then remember how "small victorious wars" often end for the Russian Federation.
                2. Axon
                  Axon 29 June 2020 06: 52
                  0
                  Not GDP but Russia
              2. ankir13
                ankir13 28 June 2020 11: 59
                +4
                The Varangian is the most intelligent, who thinks differently of him, enters the scam, but doesn’t tidy up the war ... but haven’t they learned anything from mediocre idiots and just traitors, at least some kind of protective tool is needed? Ksenia Sobchak over the skis lubricates, waiting in line, a worthy replacement!
                1. Varyag_0711
                  Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 12: 14
                  +16
                  ankir13
                  The Varangian is the smartest one, who thinks differently of him, enters the scam, but doesn’t tidy up the war ... but because of mediocrity idiots and just traitors, at least some kind of protective tool is needed
                  Smart or not, time will tell!
                  the last 70 years have not taught anything?
                  I wonder what they taught you?
                  Ksenia Sobchak over the skis lubricates, waiting in line, a worthy replacement!
                  Well, you don’t have to hold everyone for fools ... All these ksyushadi, greetings and others, it's just a screen, clowns in the arena, who are taken out just to show that there is no alternative to Volodya and nothing more.
                  So it was you who scored the scam, congratulations - you are the one who loses the scam ... laughing
                2. Igor Aviator
                  Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 21: 07
                  +4
                  Quote: ankir13
                  The Varangian is the smartest,

                  No, so-so, a provocateur! Worthless, in fact! Fake fiercely, instead of facts, cites, as arguments, the most obvious stupidity and nonsense of a liberal schiz.
                3. alecsis69
                  alecsis69 30 June 2020 00: 17
                  0
                  So he is a Varangian, not local, alien, that he is Russia.
              3. Coward
                Coward 28 June 2020 12: 06
                -1
                And where did you get the idea that it’s not you who are sick?
              4. forester1971
                forester1971 28 June 2020 21: 23
                +18
                Why do you consider yourself right, a priori, right? Maybe it is you who are being pushed into another scam? I 99% agree with the author of the article. How to whom to vote is everyone's personal business. And those who want to confirm their position with rudeness in relation to the opponent can only be advised to look for other arguments for the dispute.
                1. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 29 June 2020 10: 20
                  +4
                  And for those who want to confirm their position with rudeness in relation to the opponent, we can only advise you to look for other arguments for the dispute
                  The Varangian just listed the arguments .. But no one can answer or refute .. How many conversations have already been about this - no one has ever been able to explain the need for these amendments ..
                  1. forester1971
                    forester1971 29 June 2020 12: 25
                    +2
                    Once again I reread the so-called. arguments. These are not arguments, but emotions and a general set of phrases written using Caps lock, mixed with rudeness - "not all patients were cleaned by the war" - apparently this is the main argument in the dispute. And I did not speak at all about the necessity or uselessness of the amendments.
                    1. Uran53
                      Uran53 1 July 2020 14: 00
                      0
                      Have you read the amendments yourself?
                      1. forester1971
                        forester1971 1 July 2020 18: 28
                        0
                        Was reading. And in order to save your and your time, I’ll say in advance that I didn’t notice anything bad in them.
              5. Agave tequilana
                Agave tequilana 29 June 2020 15: 41
                -2
                and here you are, all so white and so healthy .... handsome Karoch
              6. Uran53
                Uran53 1 July 2020 13: 54
                0
                Everyone already told them on TV, so there’s no need to think for themselves anymore, and read the amendments too. And you still can’t convince a stubborn ram. All this is sad
          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 28 June 2020 11: 29
            +3
            your mistake is that you speak for all the people. I assure you that since you think far from everything. we must always speak for ourselves and not assume the right to speak for the people, as many here have fallen in love with.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 28 June 2020 11: 49
              +8
              Quote: carstorm 11
              your mistake is that you speak for all the people.

              so you are not the whole nation!
              Quote: carstorm 11
              I assure you that since you think far from all

              request
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 28 June 2020 11: 56
                +3
                so I do not speak for all the people! the fact that there are people who think not as having written can be seen here. I state this fact. do you disagree with me that there are those who are for and against? and people excuse this very concrete concept; otherwise, a person would say part of the people.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 28 June 2020 13: 06
                  +21
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  so I do not speak for all the people! what are people thinking

                  It’s precisely thinking ... and of course it arrives in our regiment, but the propagandists are throwing tons of noodles into the media that this process is not fast, but is already rapidly gaining momentum. The process was started with the pension reform. After zeroing and with the new Constitution, the process of those who are getting smarter will accelerate. For an even greater number of people will understand that the matter is not in the Constitution, but in the people who now run the state.
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 28 June 2020 13: 11
                    -4
                    it excites me a little. I am annoyed by people who for some reason decided that they can speak on my behalf as a resident of this country. my life quite suits me. I will see the one who is better, I will support. but so far there are none even at the horizon level.
                    1. Revival
                      Revival 28 June 2020 14: 00
                      +16
                      The fact that you only care about your life, we have already understood, and that you do not consider shame pension reform, a hundred-fold violation of your word, millions of beggars are also understandable. You do not care that they have nothing to eat or have to eat something that can not be called food.
                      You are doing well ...
                      1. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 28 June 2020 15: 00
                        -9
                        You understood everything in your own way, but this is understandable. I do not care about pension reform since I cannot imagine myself retired and I am not going to leave for it. I care about the well-being of my family in the first place and I spend my time on it. for I consider this the first priority of every man. call it selfish — okay so. and do not shame me with this. this is my position. politician broke his promises) this is kapets how amazing. like snow damn in winter. )
                      2. Revival
                        Revival 28 June 2020 15: 49
                        +5
                        Well, if just an ordinary "politician", then there are no questions
                      3. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 28 June 2020 16: 00
                        +6
                        politician or not or not. if you are waiting for a new chapter that will keep all its promises, then you will be naive. a new one will come and then another and then another and everyone will forget about their promises. such is the world.
                      4. volodimer
                        volodimer 28 June 2020 20: 34
                        +6
                        Make a mistake, that is, if you follow your postulates ... Are you not naive and ready to support politicians who can simply lie and forget about the promises made? Because: "This is the world"? Yes, such a world! Such a world definitely needs change. To think so means to allow oneself to be trampled into g-but still enjoy it.
                        I apologize to the admins, but could not answer softer.
                      5. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 29 June 2020 02: 44
                        0
                        you are so crazy just don’t build a sanctuary right now?) such a world requires change))). these are not my postulates. This is an objective reality since ancient times. because the best is sometimes the enemy of the good. because life generally consists of daily compromises. we time daily. generally every person. we say that everything is good to relatives when it is bad. we smile when it hurts. we wear masks even in front of the closest ones. and politicians are people too. and they all have it all work.
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                      10. Nastia makarova
                        Nastia makarova 29 June 2020 12: 16
                        +1
                        if they face Putin’s face
                      11. BecmepH
                        BecmepH 29 June 2020 11: 23
                        +1
                        Quote: volodimer
                        I apologize to the admins, but could not answer softer.

                        Some admins forgive. And many are punished more simply for words ...
                      12. ac5pr7u
                        ac5pr7u 29 June 2020 06: 54
                        0
                        Such as you went to the Germans in the service only benefit was.
                      13. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 29 June 2020 07: 17
                        0
                        shut your mouth. and learn to read before blaming this nonsense.
                      14. Vol4ara
                        Vol4ara 29 June 2020 11: 38
                        0
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        shut your mouth. and learn to read before blaming it.
                        en
                        And he’s all right ska [hide] [/ hide] the hall, your position is my shirt closer to my body, I will not retire, and I will fight for the rest. I feel good and okay. And the invaders will come and go to them, this is an objective reality from antiquity, many did
                      15. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 29 June 2020 11: 46
                        +4
                        you do not compare me with you. I, unlike you, your native epaulets wore the floor of life. and where you talkers run me not know. if my opinion is not to your liking this is not a reason to be rude to people.
                      16. seagull
                        seagull 30 June 2020 11: 56
                        +2
                        Your position is close to me ... I also think that - the best enemy of the good ... I do not hope for retirement ...
                        PS ... "You should be arrested. - For what? - And you do not like the proletariat. - Yes, I do not like the proletariat" ...
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                  2. Civil
                    Civil 28 June 2020 18: 08
                    -5
                    United Russia 10 - 0 Russian people. The people once again lost. Well, the score on the game, what can I say. Citizens are still infantile. Well, thank God.
                    1. Nastia makarova
                      Nastia makarova 29 June 2020 12: 17
                      0
                      we hate bulk
                      1. Tank hard
                        Tank hard 29 June 2020 12: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        we hate bulk

                        What's the point? Why not planted yet?
                      2. Nastia makarova
                        Nastia makarova 29 June 2020 13: 24
                        -2
                        if you put screams there will be even more
                      3. Tank hard
                        Tank hard 29 June 2020 13: 26
                        +2
                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        if you put screams there will be even more

                        I write very correctly - This not daring position. Not very brave.
                      4. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 29 June 2020 17: 16
                        0
                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        Why not planted yet?

                        I do not hate Navalny. so despise a little laughing although after his last trick is not a bit ..
                        why not planted? what for? he collects all kinds of marginals around him and everything is under supervision. let Azev, pah, Navalny, continue to work wink
                      5. CT-55_11-9009
                        CT-55_11-9009 30 June 2020 12: 39
                        0
                        You work badly, rudely. Tonschеe need, thinеe. And then cut the salary.
                2. Whowhy
                  Whowhy 28 June 2020 17: 45
                  +5
                  "A fool is getting richer with a dummy." , and it looks beautiful, if you don't think about it, but why the hell they are needed in the Constitution ...
                  Here I have repeatedly made clear arguments here and in zen, citing the amendments and comparing them with current legislation, proving their anti-nationality and orientation against the sovereignty of Russia. And what do you think? - At least one of those who advocated amendments would be able to object at least something intelligible? No (they didn’t even try) - the transition to personalities, insults, absurd sweeping accusations immediately begins. What is this talking about? - Either only complete stupid people are in favor of the amendments, or only those who are supposed to be ex officio ....
                  Well, you can't trample against the state machine, of course. So the "people" will vote "as it should" - they have already announced that it will be 73% in favor.
                  By the way, in Yoburg, “someone” spread a rumor among the grandmothers that those who vote “against” will be deprived of their pensions. And the grannies, of course, fell for it. My mother (86 years old) and her girlfriends voted "for" together, and they persuaded me: "Otherwise they will come for you!" .... This is the State Department we have here ....
                  1. Igor Aviator
                    Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 19: 34
                    +7
                    Quote: whowhy
                    By the way, in Yoburg, “someone” spread a rumor among the grandmothers that those who vote “against” will be deprived of their pensions.

                    A head to think - not? Who benefits from a negative reaction to the vote, really Putin? Can't think with our heads? Well yes! you, in the Yo-burg eat it! It is not in vain that the state consuls (and those that are lower) come to you as to their home, and they feel like at home! Classes on "building democracy" are regularly held! And I will not forget you your persistent desire to "separate from the damned MATSKVA". Fifth, no, sixth column!
                    1. albert
                      albert 28 June 2020 21: 26
                      -1
                      Quote: Igor Aviator
                      It’s not for nothing that the consuls of the United States (and those that are lower) travel to their homes and feel at home!

                      Why then Putin will not cover the consulate there so that no one travels?
                      1. Dali
                        Dali 29 June 2020 15: 10
                        -1
                        Quote: albert
                        Why then Putin will not cover the consulate there so that no one travels?

                        The time will come and cover ... in the meantime, the screech will be the whole world, including from such as WhoWhy ...
                    2. Whowhy
                      Whowhy 28 June 2020 22: 44
                      -3
                      Igor Aviator
                      "It never happened and now again" ... lol
                      What is your opinion - "a negative reaction to the vote?" Conversely, the - grannies intimidated, so that those in harmony and positive "yes" votes (but first wanted to "against"). They then also at elections together "for" vote. What do you want? And with a demand of rumors? You can always say that this nonsense they come up with, or traditionally blame everything on the Department of State. laughing
          3. gurzuf
            gurzuf 28 June 2020 13: 06
            +3
            What do you want under capitalism? As for me, it is not Putin that needs to be changed, but the system. Putin (as for me, this is the best thing that could happen in the Russian Federation under capitalism) And let it be better for the bourgeoisie to carry out this zeroing. But now I am not sure whether the popular movements will be able to take power and take advantage of this amendment. But in the future, when the authorities, quoting you further (with which they agree), "finally broke away from the people and prescribed themselves a complete indulgence for further actions and a complete lack of responsibility for their actions, even if they are criminal in relation to Russia," I think this the amendment will be claimed by these movements. And it's stupid not to see this perspective.
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 29 June 2020 16: 33
              0
              Quote: gurzuf
              whether the popular movements will be able to take power and take advantage of this amendment - now I’m not sure.

              Especially if frankly marginal parties emerge under the brand name of "folk".
          4. Magnat231
            Magnat231 28 June 2020 13: 26
            0
            Name the power that at least did not come off, what you are trying to wipe, verbiage
          5. sniperino
            sniperino 28 June 2020 20: 18
            -3
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            power finally detached from the people
            And when did it come off? Was Yeltsin closer to you, Gorbachev? Andropov with Chernenko? Perhaps, dear Leonid Ilyich ... Alas, even if he was at the beginning, he soon ceased to be power and turned into a laughing stock hung with undeserved awards: a ready candidate for the role of another scapegoat responsible for stopping on the way to a bright future, "stagnation" ...
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 29 June 2020 11: 52
              +2
              Quote: sniperino
              hung with undeserved rewards:

              And now on TV aunts are shown with big stars and hung with medals ... Honored? Maybe they deserve them. But how?!
          6. Smoke
            Smoke 29 June 2020 20: 46
            -1
            you)) what kind of power is that? specific names of a surname call
          7. Gunter prereen
            Gunter prereen 2 July 2020 22: 14
            +1
            And what kind of power are you for? Or at least name your full name. "The power has broken away from the people" - sounds like a slogan. Then give an example of the people's power.
          8. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 3 July 2020 21: 07
            0
            Usually power is ALWAYS divorced from the people, if its people or more powerful someone did not control. And as soon as it comes off far, ALWAYS there is someone (usually outside) who will help the authorities break away from the country and lose both the people and the country. And the civil war begins. While the government is anti-people, this will be repeated regularly. In the 20th century, we went through this twice. Well, once the power can not learn from the mistakes of its predecessors, let it perish. I feel sorry for the people. He did not deserve such a fate, to be an expendable material in the profits of the capitalists and cannon fodder in the political ambitions and mistakes of the bourgeois.
        2. arlekin
          arlekin 28 June 2020 11: 22
          +3
          Quote: gurzuf
          What exactly did you vote for? Please - I'm in favor of "zeroing". A counter question, only clearly - why does this amendment scare you?

          It can be used, then twisted and used again. But endlessly twisting it is somehow not hygienic.
        3. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 28 June 2020 12: 01
          +5
          Quote: gurzuf
          Please - I'm in favor of "zeroing". A counter question, only clearly - why does this amendment scare you?

          She can no longer scare us. From this amendment turns back, as from the corpse of a decomposed animal. Look, here you can see why and why:
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 28 June 2020 15: 34
            -16
            Quote: ROSS 42
            From this amendment turns, as from the corpse of a decomposed animal

            Oh hello guys (Svarog, Sylvester, Howling, Baby ...) hi
            I see, I see, everything at the post yes we can say at the last frontier ...
            I am ready, during "debriefing," to confirm to your masters from the State Department that although you lost the anti-voting campaign ineptly, you tried very hard.
            And the USSR flags, portraits of military commanders and used horses, to find out what was in diapers Putin childhood ... and I can even confirm that you sang in chorus (quietly) "Ukraine Has Not Yet Perished ...," and "God Bless America. .. "
            True, the guys write later how the grandmasters yelled at you. Interesting.
            1. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
              ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 28 June 2020 15: 40
              -16
              Oh, hello guys (Svarog, Sylvester, Revival, Baby ... They are regulars here from morning to evening, The hosts will not appreciate their efforts.
            2. Svarog
              Svarog 28 June 2020 16: 01
              +17
              Quote: Terenin
              Oh hello guys (Svarog, Sylvester, Howling, Baby ...)

              And your order can be seen on the full provision of the cooperative "lake"?
              Primitive thinking by the training manual .. you are trying to write half of the country as agents of the State Department, but I’m sure that it’s you who supports Putin and the results of his reign (extinction of Russian citizens, pension reform at the direction of the IMF, stable impoverishment of the population, collapse of your own industry and medicine .. well and stuff ..) it’s you who are the agents of the State Department, but not everyone is smart enough to understand this ..
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 28 June 2020 17: 13
                -6
                Quote: Svarog
                but you are not all smart enough to understand this ..

                Well, of course, that’s enough for you, but I don’t request
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              2. Terenin
                Terenin 28 June 2020 17: 22
                -6
                Quote: Svarog
                And your order can be seen on the full provision of the cooperative "lake"?

                It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 28 June 2020 17: 44
                  +12
                  Quote: Terenin
                  Quote: Svarog
                  And your order can be seen on the full provision of the cooperative "lake"?

                  It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself.

                  laughing Do you think that you are driving someone wassat You have a distorted perception of reality .. No arguments, only mooing and a reference to feelings .. you have a highly developed female component because men think logically and judge by deeds. And the deeds and achievements of your idol are sad ...
                  Let's chase me .. laughing I will ask some simple questions, and you answer briefly yes / no and everything will be clear ..
                  Is there a population growth in the country?
                  Do you think the Russian economy is effective?
                  Have citizens' incomes increased over the past 6 years?
                  And have there been more billionaires in the last 6 years?
                  Is free medicine better? (here you can read more ..)
                  What scientific discoveries have been made by Russian scientists over the past 6 years?
                  What kind of Russian scientists do you know around the world?
                  Do you think there is political competition in Russia?
                  Do social obligations of the state grow in your way or degrade?
                  Corruption, nepotism in the country is growing?

                  If you do not merge and answer unequivocally without water, in this case there are still questions:
                  - An ineffective leader can rule for your life?
                  - can a country's leader lie to his citizens?
                  - should the leader of the country be responsible for his promises and their failure to fulfill?
                  Good luck, the answers will be painful for your consciousness, of course if it is not painful laughing
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                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 07
                      +6
                      There is no other system and there will not be, there is nothing to change, the majority of citizens are satisfied with the current situation, there are no wars, no famines, no cataclysms. The economy, despite everything, is growing slowly but it is growing and the problems are the same as for everyone in the world. And how many churches in Russia per day open to all to spit this information only those like you are interested.
                  2. Terenin
                    Terenin 28 June 2020 19: 25
                    0
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Do you think that you are chasing someone? You have a distorted perception of reality .. No arguments, just a lowing and a reference to feelings ..

                    Well, here one is already nervously running around with prepared cribs. Late, Mr. Student, the company’s time is over. Go answer to the grantor. Dare, if anything, I'm near wink .

                    Quote: Svarog
                    you have a highly developed female component because men think logically and judge by deeds.
                    Sorry, did not recognize you in the mask, Dr. Kashpirovsky.
                    He is not a magician and not a psychic ... He is a psychotherapist! belay


                    Quote: Svarog
                    And the deeds and achievements of your idol are sad ...
                    Oh, already guilty, out of habit appointed. Familiar winked
                    "with a high probability"...


                    Quote: Svarog
                    I will ask some simple questions, and you answer briefly yes \ no and everything will be clear ..
                    but maybe still take parts ...? winked or all at once?

                    Quote: Svarog
                    If you don’t merge and answer unequivocally without water,
                    Please, announce, please, the name of the selection committee. Oops, yes I know you all for sure fellow

                    Quote: Svarog
                    in this case, more questions:
                    Always glad to help in trouble buddy drinks
                    1. Svarog
                      Svarog 28 June 2020 19: 29
                      +3
                      It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself

                      Actually, I expected such an answer from you ... With such answers, you only have to drive the "bald" one laughing
                      And still can answer at least one question?
                      1. Terenin
                        Terenin 28 June 2020 19: 34
                        -1
                        Quote: Svarog
                        It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself

                        Actually, I expected such an answer from you ... With such answers, you only have to drive the "bald" one laughing
                        And still can answer at least one question?

                        Do not be afraid, go boldly, Vladimir, Bolshoi Devyatinsky, house 8, then tell wink
                      2. Svarog
                        Svarog 28 June 2020 19: 43
                        -1
                        Quote: Terenin
                        Quote: Svarog
                        It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself

                        Actually, I expected such an answer from you ... With such answers, you only have to drive the "bald" one laughing
                        And still can answer at least one question?

                        Do not be afraid, go boldly, Vladimir, Bolshoi Devyatinsky, house 8, then tell wink

                        Terenin merged ... was blown away ... only he began to swell and then burst laughing I see that you have no arguments and the fact that you are not even trying to pick them out means that you understand everything .. and if so, why do you support it? Are you on the RFP?
                      3. Terenin
                        Terenin 29 June 2020 22: 02
                        0
                        Hello Svarog hi . Sorry for the delay. Unlike your gloom, I have many good deeds.
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Terenin merged ... blown away ... burst
                        Obviously, in translation - "! Become ease disperse!" ??? How do you know so well my levels? It is difficult to achieve, but I will try winked .

                        Quote: Svarog
                        I see that you have no arguments and the fact that you are not even trying to pick them out means that you understand everything .. and if so, why do you support it?
                        I understand, buddy, two days are left before you get an "Fail" grade request Do not worry, it will be possible to retake, in the 24th year, in the presidential election. Just get ready.
                        Ah, when nicknames (in blogs, forums and chats) will not be anonymous, but as in China, according to passport data ... then it will be clear - ... but who is wandering around at all? Maybe coronavirus !? belay

                        Quote: Svarog
                        Are you on the RFP?
                        Yes, feel but it draws to you, as at night to ... the refrigerator crying
              3. Achilles
                Achilles 28 June 2020 18: 10
                +7
                Quote: Svarog
                but I’m sure that it’s you who supports Putin and the results of his reign, (the extinction of Russian citizens, the pension reform at the direction of the IMF, the stable impoverishment of the population, the collapse of your own industry and medicine .. well and so on ..) it’s you who are the agents of the State Department but you are not all smart enough to understand this ..

                How? extinction of citizens of the Russian Federation, before Putin (in 90) there was an extinction as in 43 years. who is to blame? Also Putin? Stable impoverishment of the people? In 90 years there was nowhere to go for poverty below, when salaries were not paid for 6–9 months, is there such a thing now? In the 90s, medicine was just awful now much better, it doesn’t even compare. And even industry was in the ass even before Putin. But the question is if Putin is so bad, why did he need all the large gas-oil companies in which the majority stake was in private hands (echo 90), so now the state has a majority stake. No one argues that we have a lot of problems, corruption and yes in Russia over the past 5 years, many officials have been imprisoned, are slowly fighting corruption. Why does the Western world hate Putin, if he is so bad for Russia he should be loved there, but not. No one wondered if Putin began to reckon with Russia and he himself said that he was playing a long game. History will then show what Putin did for Russia.
                1. AA17
                  AA17 28 June 2020 21: 45
                  +9
                  "... The Western world hates Putin, ..."
                  The rams were scared by wolves all their lives, and the Shepherd ate them.
                2. Whowhy
                  Whowhy 28 June 2020 23: 18
                  0
                  And what of the 90s did Putin take? Primakov must bow down to his feet, but Putin too quickly "leaked" everything that Primakov managed to build in such a short time ...
                  1. Pavel57
                    Pavel57 29 June 2020 01: 35
                    0
                    Primakov was one of Andropov's associates in the collapse of the USSR through the creation of oligarchic structures.
                    1. Whowhy
                      Whowhy 29 June 2020 08: 35
                      +2
                      Pavel57
                      Now you can chat anything. Khrushchev created oligarchic structures, forbidding the KGB and police to touch the party nomenclature and organizing mass housing construction ....
              4. Pavel57
                Pavel57 29 June 2020 01: 33
                +3
                Recalling the cooperative LAKE is exactly the methodology of the State Department.

                And if in fact, that any politician does business with the "plus" and "minus" plyuse.dlya GDP in Russia. A system and oligarchs have created before.
                1. BecmepH
                  BecmepH 29 June 2020 12: 41
                  0
                  Quietly with himself ...
            3. Gardamir
              Gardamir 28 June 2020 16: 09
              +6
              Oh hello guys (Terenin ,, Andrey Mikhailov_2, carstorm 11, ...) hi
              I see, I see, everything at the post
              why are you so happy about the optimization of medicine? You have recognized the tax haven of geydorasov and your family didn’t interfere with any amendments, you have nothing to say in defense here and you are rude.
            4. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
              ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 28 June 2020 17: 52
              -4
              In the "State farm to them. Lenin, "owned by a member of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Pavel Grudinin, people complain about coercion to vote against amendments to the Constitution. Those who disobey are threatened by fines and even dismissal.


              This is the official public city of Vidnoye “VKontakte”.


              The situation check was undertaken by the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation. Such coercion is completely illegal, according to lawyers.


              Complaints were received from state farm workers on the “hot line”, which began work last week. The authorities require a report: a ballot with a vote against must be photographed.


              “They clearly made it clear: we must vote“ against ”and fix it, take a photo as evidence,” “they threaten us with dismissal, they advise us to think about salaries,” the complaints of the victims quoted by the public city of Vidnoe say.


              According to Russian laws, coercion to vote faces criminal liability up to 5 years in prison. If the information is confirmed, Pavel Grudinin shines a real time. The head of the commission of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation Maxim Grigoryev joined in the investigation of the situation.
            5. sniperino
              sniperino 28 June 2020 20: 47
              -1
              Quote: Terenin
              True, the guys write later how the grandmasters yelled at you. Interesting.

              Calls Antires
              And such isho cut:
              How do they have sms there -
              With the transfer of ali without?
            6. New Year day
              New Year day 28 June 2020 22: 13
              -2
              Quote: Terenin
              I am ready, during "debriefing," to confirm to your masters from the State Department that although you lost the anti-voting campaign ineptly, you tried very hard.

              1. Terenin
                Terenin 29 June 2020 22: 18
                0
                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: Terenin
                I am ready, during "debriefing," to confirm to your masters from the State Department that although you lost the anti-voting campaign ineptly, you tried very hard.


                Doctor-patient: - I have bad news for you ...
                - Doctor! I will die?
                - Not! We will treat you.

                By the way, a normal film "Brother-2", especially the place where Bandera's people are "treated":
                “You, bastards, answer for Sevastopol!”
          2. Igor Aviator
            Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 19: 53
            0
            I saw this fake - a product of Platoshkin. Are you so stupid to contend with him? A worthy client of Platoshkin! wassat As for me, that to these assholes - belolentochnikami unfairly treated gently. Look in France with the "yellow jackets", or in other "svetlolikih" countries "democratic" treat "the opposition" - batons, tear gas, and just that - lead pill to teach it! Chinese - so in general, MOLODTSY- after Tian An Men-peace and quiet, and the GDP sharply up skakanul! So I do not need this argument lead - it is not worth a damn! I do not understand what these belolentochnikami lisp? My will be - they would have no longer had!
            1. Whowhy
              Whowhy 28 June 2020 23: 25
              +1
              Finally! We were waiting for you so, my friend! Explain to us fools what fake is? Where did she lie hidden? And, preferably, please point by point.
          3. begemot20091
            begemot20091 29 June 2020 04: 07
            +2
            here they’ve blinded the video, counted ... for life! rules for life, for life in the council of federations = mathematics does not converge. clearly victims of the exam.
        4. Svarog
          Svarog 28 June 2020 13: 00
          0
          Quote: gurzuf
          why does this amendment scare you?

          The fact that zeroed will still be in power for many years, while there will be jurisdictions and even though there is not a single indicator (demography, economics, medicine, industry, etc.) that would say that a person location. The state is degrading, and this is a fact, as is its political system.
          1. Igor Aviator
            Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 20: 02
            0
            Quote: Svarog
            The state is degrading and this is a fact

            What are you saying? Really? It is strange, but, for example, the State Department and the European Commission believe the other way around - that the strengthening of Russia and the threat to the interests of the United States because of this is growing, and you do not give any facts - only screams "everything is gone, everything is asking ... are polymers!" Noble, then Vladimir Vladimirovich pinched you, respect to him! No wonder I and all my relatives "FOR!" voted! Nothing, the time will come and FOR REPEATED Presidential Powers MANDATORY vote! yes
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 28 June 2020 20: 08
              -2
              Quote: Igor Aviator
              What are you saying? Oh really? Strange, but, for example, the State Department and the European Commission

              Naturally, the strengthening of Russia is not profitable for the United States and Europe, and for this reason, we only trade in raw materials and weapons .. the weapon is good from the USSR left .. We have been assigned the role of a raw materials appendage and you are happy about it .. sadly ..
              and you do not give any facts - only screams "everything is gone, everything is asking ... whether polymers!"

              You obviously don’t know how to listen and see .. What’s there .. the statistics will bring you, you trust him .. here and see how we have demography, the economy .. and so on, whoever wants to see and hear will hear ..
              Notably, then Vladimir Vladimirovich nipped you, respect to him!

              You are talking about pension reform now, about total impoverishment .. yes, notably they work ..
              Nothing, the time will come and for REPEATED Presidential Powers MANDATORY VOTE! yes

              Different times may come ..
            2. Whowhy
              Whowhy 28 June 2020 23: 37
              -1
              Strange, but, for example, the State Department and the European Commission believe the opposite - that the strengthening of Russia and the threat to US interests are growing.

              Did you come up with this yourself, or does one of them call you regularly? And, even if this is true, then ordinary workers from their military-industrial complex also want to eat. You and the Americans, like in Krylov's fable: "The cuckoo praises the rooster for praising that cuckoo" ....
              and the fact you do not bring any - nothing but cries of "all is lost, all I ask ... whether polymers!

              No, well, it’s already nagging! They threw so many facts to him, even showed a movie - you have to rejoice and boldly throw your breast at the embrasure (that is, at the facts), but in response there is only some miserable tussle and ridiculous sweeping accusations ....
      2. mark_rod
        mark_rod 28 June 2020 11: 51
        +19
        The article is just a masterpiece! In addition, I, too, was born in the USSR and I understand something ... It was necessary, the author is proud that he ate compote, ice cream and gauno at one go!
        And you voted for the expansion of the powers of the Federation Council, the nullification of the terms of the darkest and the elimination of it and the clique from any responsibility !!!

        But this is the main reason for all the amendments!
        1. lopvlad
          lopvlad 28 June 2020 12: 32
          -1
          Quote: mark_rod
          ice cream and gauno in one plate!


          apparently the majority of those who voted for the amendments in the USSR ate only ice cream and only a few percent who are against the amendments are still doing the same.
          1. Igor Aviator
            Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 20: 06
            +2
            Small Fixed: those who are "against" do not like, that those who are "behind" in the USSR, eating ice cream, they would like to, that would be all - as they themselves ate "the thing."
            1. Whowhy
              Whowhy 28 June 2020 23: 41
              -2
              Well, it’s immediately obvious that toilet humor turns you on and you are always ready to support this tension (instead of responding with feeling and arrangement to specific facts) .... wink
        2. mdsr
          mdsr 28 June 2020 12: 46
          -16
          Quote: mark_rod
          It was necessary, the author is proud that he ate compote, ice cream and gauno at one go at a time!

          There is simply such a category of people about whom they say: goofan elk is not a mammoth, it will not die out. Let them eat this gauno, processed by a propaganda-patriotic perfume, a full spoon.
          As for the vote, our apartment rang the bell last night. I open, there are three ladies from the election commission, they offered to vote ahead of schedule. Naturally, I refused, said that I would not participate in this circus in principle.
          1. gurzuf
            gurzuf 28 June 2020 13: 13
            +6
            Interestingly, the girls are dancing "ahead of time" if the vote is already going on since June 25. laughing Forgot to say that you are the daughter of a Russian officer wink
            1. mdsr
              mdsr 28 June 2020 14: 21
              +1
              Quote: gurzuf
              Interestingly, the girls are dancing "ahead of time" if the vote is already going on since June 25.

              What is not clear? Voting at polling stations is underway and, in parallel, bypass all houses. Naturally, they cannot get around everything in one day. Yesterday they reached us.
              Quote: gurzuf
              Forgot to say that you are the daughter of a Russian officer
              This is not at the address. You need to reset to zero with this question.
              1. gurzuf
                gurzuf 28 June 2020 14: 32
                -1
                The meaning of the word "early" according to Ozhegov: early - carried out earlier than the established date.
                1. mdsr
                  mdsr 28 June 2020 16: 51
                  0
                  Quote: gurzuf
                  The meaning of the word "early" according to Ozhegov: early - carried out earlier than the established date.

                  I'm from people like you, just amazed.
                  July 1 is the day of voting on constitutional amendments. From June 25 to June 30 you can vote ahead of schedule, having come to the polling station or at home, if members of the election commission come to you, as well as in 2 regions, you can vote online. Voting before July 1 is an early voting, as All-Russian voting day is scheduled for July 1.
          2. matross
            matross 28 June 2020 13: 27
            +1
            Quote: mdsr
            Naturally, I refused, said that I would not participate in this circus in principle.

            And I will. Also fundamentally. But not in the circus, but in the vote. I vote FOR the amendments. I consider them correct and necessary.
            Almost all of my friends and family feel the same way. These are real people, different, young and mature, mostly educated. I know them, but there are no "deniers" from the Internet.
            So it seems that Russia will vote for the amendments. As if someone did not want the opposite.
            PS I'm from St. Petersburg.
            1. Revival
              Revival 28 June 2020 14: 04
              +8
              Of course he will vote, no matter how anyone wants to, you can’t argue here.
              With "state employees" so generally everything is clear.
              By the way, do not know how much pride and conscience today?
              1. matross
                matross 28 June 2020 14: 15
                -2
                Quote: Revival
                how much is pride and conscience now?

                I do not know, did not trade. Tell us about your experience?
                1. Revival
                  Revival 28 June 2020 14: 18
                  +3
                  Yes, I’m just watching messages from public sector employees, in particular, on the Internet, how they are given instructions on how to vote, and so the question arose, how does it bend and trade with conscience and pride
                  1. RESEARCHER
                    RESEARCHER 28 June 2020 14: 55
                    -7
                    In how all overexcited. You might think that from the rejection of amendments the next day the kingdom of heaven will come. To my conscience, you have questions.
                    For me, your idea of ​​conscience is something new.
                    I read the comments of opponents of a strong state and saw nothing but agony. Your card is a bit, gentlemen, whiners and forever dissatisfied.
                    And in general, here is my advice to you. Better get down to business and try to give no more than 15 minutes a week to your fiery speeches on this site.
                    1. Revival
                      Revival 28 June 2020 14: 57
                      +6
                      To your conscience, it’s just that the questions have completely disappeared, it’s useless to ask questions into the void ...
                    2. Revival
                      Revival 28 June 2020 14: 58
                      +5
                      You might think that from the adoption of amendments the next day the kingdom of heaven will come.
                    3. Per se.
                      Per se. 28 June 2020 15: 54
                      +18
                      Quote: RESEARCHER
                      You might think that from the rejection of amendments the next day the kingdom of heaven will come.
                      You would think that from the adoption of the amendments is the "kingdom of heaven" is also not come. Is the constitution without amendment forced the president to raise the retirement age (although he claimed that while he was president, this would not be as adjustment to the constitution or by whom)? Do you think that all the amendments will change for the better?

                      Why are advertisements only part of the amendments, there is not one character, who would say, I am for the fact that it will be possible to dissolve the Duma, at any time to remove unwanted judges, what am I for resetting the deadlines? Is it objective, is it fair? Why are the amendments reduced to one list, where it literally turns out that while agreeing that you are for "white", below you automatically agree for "black", which is not particularly advertised. This is not only a violation of already existing provisions on amending the Constitution, but also an outright scam.

                      It is possible to understand those who were bought, to whom it is profitable, but it is impossible to understand those who wanted the best, but it will come out, as always ... It is also difficult to understand which "Sword of Damocles" hangs over Domokl, that he campaigns for something that will hardly be a boon for Russia, especially if such vast powers fall to another president, much more dependent on the West. Some naive Vasya Pupkin from Mukhos may not understand this, but not the experienced “former rebel” Alexander Staver, who is actually campaigning for the usurpation of power.
                  2. matross
                    matross 28 June 2020 14: 56
                    +8
                    So ask those who "seem to give instructions." At the same time, you will find out whether payment is attached to the instructions or not.
                    I serve in ... a federal budget organization wink soldier and no one gave me any "kind of instructions" how to vote. And to ensure the attendance of the subordinate l / s too. Here is the order to provide an OPPORTUNITY for voting, yes - it was. This is a common practice.
                    1. Revival
                      Revival 28 June 2020 17: 15
                      -7
                      So I say "common practice".
                  3. Zvonarev
                    Zvonarev 29 June 2020 14: 23
                    +3
                    It’s interesting, I’m a state employee, but nobody asked me “how to vote”. Maybe there are wrong state employees in Chelyabinsk?
              2. Gardamir
                Gardamir 28 June 2020 16: 15
                0
                how much is pride and conscience now?
                You are a little wrong here. If the state employee does not go to provide the turnout, then he will be provided with unemployment.
                These obviously burns out. You can fake voices, but how to fake turnout.
                1. Revival
                  Revival 28 June 2020 17: 25
                  -5
                  Well, why is it wrong.
                  Then the price is the opportunity to work.
                  With a different approach, we can gradually reach the excuse of the Vlasovites
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira 28 June 2020 18: 45
                    +1
                    Our cinema is confidently moving in this direction.
                2. sniperino
                  sniperino 28 June 2020 21: 10
                  -7
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  If the state employee does not go to provide the turnout, then he will be provided with unemployment.
                  Somehow not enough, listlessly - without courage ... A pensioner will be taken away from a pension, parents - children ... So many options, but you have no creativity. It smells of incompetence, if I may say so about this amber ...
              3. begemot20091
                begemot20091 29 June 2020 05: 00
                +3
                You seem to have had enough money. It is a pity that there is no conscience.
            2. Simargl
              Simargl 28 June 2020 17: 22
              +5
              Quote: matRoss
              I vote FOR the amendments. I consider them correct and necessary.
              Which one is right? I haven’t found it.
              Useless and harmful are, but necessary ... they are in your dreams.
              1. begemot20091
                begemot20091 29 June 2020 07: 02
                -3
                and tried to read something? and the previous one, without amendments, like it? oh- again about zeroing the tale begin. Well, fucking to help you.
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 29 June 2020 07: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: begemot20091
                  and tried to read something?
                  I know the letters. I tried it. And the amendments, and the current, and the USSR.
                  So: the amendments suggest useless and harmful. Making life better is not.
                  I do not understand something? Well point me. I want to be wrong.
                  You can lick the insane yourself: he rams against the vote.
            3. Varyag71
              Varyag71 29 June 2020 10: 30
              -1
              Are you not from the Internet?
          3. Igor Aviator
            Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 20: 37
            +3
            Quote: mdsr
            He refused, said that I would not participate in this circus in principle.

            What is interesting, because people say it is "Pepsi generation", that is, those who have not seen and do not feel the full horror of the 90s! W here govorit- fools!
        3. Maximilian37
          Maximilian37 28 June 2020 14: 50
          -8
          and how old are you "born in the USSR" was that?
          1. Igor Aviator
            Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 20: 45
            +5
            Quote: Maximilian37
            and how old are you "born in the USSR" was that?

            For thirty I was when our regiment was taken to Kaluga forests.
            1. begemot20091
              begemot20091 29 June 2020 05: 05
              -3
              I guess from the GSVG? You went there enthusiastically. And why, when they took them out to the forest, didn’t leave the service? Would you go to business, to the factory? Just don’t say that factories didn’t work all. I do not believe it, he worked until recently from that illustrious time. And if it’s bad near Kaluga, there are many places in Siberia.
        4. Achilles
          Achilles 28 June 2020 18: 21
          +1
          Quote: mark_rod
          And you voted for the expansion of the powers of the Federation Council, the nullification of the terms of the darkest and the elimination of it and the clique from any responsibility !!!

          But this is the main reason for all the amendments!

          Also in the amendments there is a clause where it says how immunity can be deprived of the president and all any including. So everyone is nullified? So at the moment, who can be appointed president for Putin's place? In general, I think with full democracy there shouldn’t be a number of terms (for example, in the United States when they accepted a declaration of independence, you could run for as many times as you like, but after Roosevelt visited more than two times, they decided to cancel it), so if people trust why not
          1. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 21
            -1
            It’s not necessary to blame the people. And the United States is correctly referenced, this is the most powerful country in the world, and they achieved this, among other things, by their constitution, which says that the president has no more than 2 terms of 4 years. Probably many consider them stupid for this, in vain - look at the power of their country, at the standard of living.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 18
              0
              More than 40 million homeless and poor people have already watched in this powerful country, and now there’s an ass in general there in connection with protests and layoffs.
            2. Pavel57
              Pavel57 29 June 2020 01: 43
              +1
              Roosevelt had three terms.
          2. Igor Aviator
            Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 20: 58
            +2
            Quote: Achilles
            So everyone is nullified?

            No, all of them, like the State Department, which paid for all this howl, are rooted in the idea that Russia, under the control of the hated Putin, will gain absolute independence, including: withdrawing its Central Bank from their control, introducing the primacy of its laws, excommunication double agent powers, and more ...
          3. Simargl
            Simargl 29 June 2020 07: 45
            +2
            Quote: Achilles
            Also in the amendments there is a clause where it says how immunity can be deprived of the president and all any including.
            Does Article 93 not allow this?
        5. volodimer
          volodimer 28 June 2020 21: 15
          +11
          Recently I read a lot of comments that those who are against amendments are directly agents of the SGA, bulk, Khodorkovsky, LGBT and all the evil forces that want evil to our homeland. Have come to propaganda.
          In 2014, after the Crimea, I told everyone that VV received an indulgence for everything that happened before, he could then do anything and the people would support him. But this whatever became "pension reform", which he promised not to carry out. Now the constitution and the annulment ... Which also promised not to do ...
          I am against amendments. But not because I’m an agent of the State Department, But because I’m sick! There was continuous humiliation from the whole vertical: deputies, measures, governors, senators, and even bureaucrats of all levels could not be counted.
          The Rutskoi and the Khazbulatovs, the Nemtsov and Kasparov, the Bulk with the Khodorkovsky were alien to me ...
          But for some reason I always put before a choice between "Huge klizmu and shit sandwich" in the cartoon South Park. That is a choice without a choice. And then there's a beautiful phrase from haha ​​guarantor promise to guarantee does not change anything, that we must work and not to look for receivers ....
          Now for sure, I won’t live up to retirement, and my heirs will not live up to the change of guarantor.
          After all, he brought it to the point that the people who supported him a couple of years ago were involuntarily in the same trench with the bulk they despised. It was necessary to be able to. Congratulations to you BB!
      3. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 28 June 2020 11: 54
        +25
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        SO WHAT DID YOU VOTE FOR?

        "FOR" Preserving and perpetuating Yeltsin's merits in the form of "Yeltsin Center" and the entire "team of" reformers ".
        "FOR" the preservation and strengthening, legitimacy and the outcome of the revision of the refusal "privatization" of the 90s.
        "FOR" the Wailing Walls and the continuation of the further vilification of the country's Soviet past.
        "FOR" Pension reform, tax increases according to "official" and planned (!) Inflation.
        "FOR" Further continuation of "optimizations" and deindustrialization of the country.
        "FOR" the capitalist way of "development" of a separate society on the territory of the Russian Federation and further stratification of social groups of citizens of the country.
        In general, for the very Yeltsin Constitution, which essentially remains unchanged, as well as the political system generated by it.
        Those who voted "AGAINST", in fact, voted for the preservation of the same Yeltsin Constitution, only without the amendments that are already spelled out in the Federal Law.
        The bottom line. All who voted "FOR" and those who voted "AGAINST" voted for the same thing. lol
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go on my own and will not let my own go, so as not to betray the legitimacy of this farce!

        good At least one sane response to "playing with thimbles" on a national scale.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 28 June 2020 17: 25
          +2
          Quote: Sovetskiy
          At least one sane response to "playing with thimbles" on a national scale.
          Really?
          1000 said FOR, 1000 thought they were against, but said NO of them 500 ...
          ... and so it turned out: 1000 - FOR, 500 - AGAINST.
      4. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
        tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 28 June 2020 11: 56
        -7
        Well, exit the site, otherwise it’s blah blah blah ...
      5. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 12
        +6
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        At least someone from the supporters of voting "FOR" can clearly tell me without pathos, FOR what actually you voted for?

        And can you personally explain why you do not like Russia's withdrawal from American control? Legal control, by the way.
        Why did the Hague arbitration make semi-fraudulent Yukos, bought for $ 2 million (in a collateral auction), made it equal to Microsoft of those years? And according to the Yeltsin constitution, the decisions of the Hague arbitration prevail over the requirements of the Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos on the fact of tax evasion.
        Sakhalin, given by Shell for a pat on the shoulder. Take as much oil as you want, chop and export timber, well, and Russia - as much as you give, we will be glad. If Shell sues, according to the current constitution, we will be obliged to return all the profits that Shell lost in a decade and a half. Priority of American laws over Russian ones.
        And it suits you!
        Yes, if it weren’t for Zero, you are now not protesting on the Internet, but using a digging stick for the rhizome of dandelion in the Irtysh flood plain.
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 12: 33
          +4
          Oyo Sarkazmi
          And can you personally explain why you do not like Russia's withdrawal from American control?
          Do not tell my slippers ... laughing WHAT Amendment Indicates US Out of Control? Maybe the Constitution prescribed in black and white that the CBR is no longer under the control of the US Federal Reserve?
          Do not think that everyone is as naive as you are!
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 57
            +5
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            that the CBR is no longer under the control of the US Federal Reserve?

            Indicate the law on the control of the Central Bank of Russia by the Fed. Just stupid mriy. Otherwise, the gold of the Reserve Fund has long migrated into the pockets of American government officials. As under Yeltsin, he arrived, gave advice, took away a million and shares of the oil company.
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 16: 00
              +1
              Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi)
              Indicate the law on the control of the Central Bank of Russia by the Fed.
              Well, yes, the Americans go so far as to prescribe a whole "LAW" on the control of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation by the US FRS ?! Where are you the only ones fool the only ones taken away?
              Do not think that all around you are alone fool fool fool There are people who are able to think independently and understand what is written between the lines.
              Tell me more that the Yeltsin Constitution was written not without the help of the CIA, and I laugh ... laughing
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 16: 32
                +4
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                there are people who can think independently and understand what is written between the lines.

                People? I doubt it. A standard set of AI phrases.
                Ishcho, so thinking and big-eyed, how did you miss the 100 pages of the principles of the destruction of the Ukrainian economy and people between the lines in the Ukraine-EU treaty on European integration?
              2. Varyag71
                Varyag71 29 June 2020 10: 37
                +1
                In Yunarmiya it seems they are recruited after the exam
        2. Revival
          Revival 28 June 2020 14: 09
          +11
          "Why don't you like Russia leaving US control?"

          Because how they did it, they will continue to do it.
          I bet that from July 2 we will not stop paying, but will we continue to pay?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 22
            -1
            Do you pay the Fed?
        3. Simargl
          Simargl 28 June 2020 17: 59
          +2
          Quote: Oo sarcasm
          And according to the Yeltsin constitution, the decisions of the Hague arbitration prevail over the requirements of the Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos on the fact of tax evasion.
          You are lying: the international court is not mentioned by any means in the Constitution!
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 28 June 2020 21: 27
            0
            Quote: Simargl
            Article 15
            The article was brought up correctly, but you are trying to interpret its meaning.
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 28 June 2020 21: 35
              +3
              Quote: sniperino
              trying to distort its meaning.
              How can it be twisted?
              We look at the article:
              Quote: Simargl
              15.4. Generally recognized principles и norms international law and international treaties The Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If international an agreement The Russian Federation established other rules than those provided by law, the rules of international contract.
              Now look at the quote:
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              solutions The Hague Arbitration prevail over requirements Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos after tax evasion.

              Now the question is: what exactly did I misinterpret? And with what fright do the decisions of the Hague arbitration comply with international law?
              And how will the amendment prevent the Ministry of Finance from bending next time due to leaky laws in the past?
              1. sniperino
                sniperino 28 June 2020 23: 39
                -4
                Quote: Simargl
                Now the question is: what exactly did I misinterpret?
                This:
                Quote: Simargl
                Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
                And according to the Yeltsin constitution, the decisions of the Hague arbitration prevail over the requirements of the Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos on the fact of tax evasion.

                You are lying: the international court is not mentioned by any means in the Constitution!
                Oyo Sarkazmi writes precisely: "according to the Yeltsin constitution." You twist, accusing him of lying, because no one claims that it is written about the Hague Tribunal. The crux of the matter is that the country's constitution should prevent future authorities from making such agreements. There is no mention of the Barents Sea either, but the amendment on integrity excludes such agreements. No need to muddy the water.
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 29 June 2020 04: 19
                  +3
                  Quote: sniperino
                  You distort, accusing him of lying, because no one claims that it says exactly about the Hague Tribunal.
                  Not a tribunal, but arbitration. However, I'm talking about the court in general. And I say that the decisions of the international court must be implemented in the Constitution is not indicated at all. Norms - yes.
                  Quote: sniperino
                  The essence of the matter is that the country's constitution should prevent the possibility of such agreements by future authorities.
                  Those. do you want the emergence of "Sharia" on the principle you do not order us? Didn't you think what it might lead to?

                  Quote: sniperino
                  It does not say anything about the Barents Sea, but the integrity amendment excludes such agreements.
                  Have you read the corrections carefully? In another comment, I pointed out that changing borders is provided, but without the participation of the people. And he also indicated how the alienation of territories would take place (strictly according to the amendments).

                  Quote: sniperino
                  No need to stir up the water.
                  Am I torturing this ?! Maybe you are trying to justify a lie? It turns out, and you lie?
                  I am for the truth. Let not everyone like it.
          2. ghby
            ghby 29 June 2020 12: 20
            0
            Article 79

            The Russian Federation may participate in interstate associations and transfer to them part of its powers in accordance with international treaties of the Russian Federation, if this does not entail restrictions on the rights and freedoms of man and citizen and does not contradict the foundations of the constitutional system of the Russian Federation. Decisions of interstate bodies adopted on the basis of the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretation, contrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, shall not be enforced in the Russian Federation.]
            I highlighted the change. I think the question is this and this change is positive in my opinion. and directly refers to Yukos and international arbitration.
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 29 June 2020 15: 20
              +2
              Quote: ghby
              change i highlighted
              Especially for you:
              Quote: ghby
              Quote: extract from art. 79
              based on the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretationcontrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation
              Those. this item is excessbecause enough clarification Constitutional Court, which was done not so long ago.
        4. sniperino
          sniperino 28 June 2020 21: 22
          0
          Quote: Oo sarcasm
          The priority of American laws over Russian. And it suits you!
          And even feeds some.
        5. Whowhy
          Whowhy 29 June 2020 00: 06
          +8
          YUKOS is an intra-family showdown, for which, for some reason, the Russian people are paying. Who signed the contract with Shell? Oh, don't I hear? And who gave Russian lands to the Chinese and Norwegians without asking the people in a referendum (according to the Declaration of State Sovereignty, the adoption of which we celebrate on May 12)? Don't you know either? And who is going to alienate Russian lands through these notorious "federal territories", where even Russian laws will not apply (according to the amendment, again)? What, haven't you read it? And who (again, according to the amendment) is going to freely give away Russian territories through negotiations, hiding behind the word "delimitation" that is incomprehensible to most people? What haven't you read again?
          1. Zvonarev
            Zvonarev 29 June 2020 14: 39
            +1
            What, excuse me, are we celebrating May 12?
            1. Whowhy
              Whowhy 30 June 2020 08: 16
              0
              June of course. feel love
          2. seagull
            seagull 30 June 2020 12: 17
            0
            For the increment of the Crimea, you voted in a referendum ???
      6. Don
        Don 28 June 2020 12: 52
        0
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go on my own and will not let my own go, so as not to betray the legitimacy of this farce!

        You don’t even have to go, they themselves come. They have already come to me. I refused to participate in this clowning.
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 14: 03
          -1
          Donskoy (Vasily Ivanovich)
          You don’t even have to go, they themselves come. They have already come to me. I refused to participate in this clowning.
          They also came to me yesterday, and to their mother-in-law the day before yesterday. He sent everyone to a well-known address, but politely, without using non-normative vocabulary. All the same, ordinary people there, the same as me, are only state employees, i.e. people are a priori bonded.
      7. BigBoss
        BigBoss 28 June 2020 16: 22
        -12
        You have to go vote against. Otherwise, instead of you, the employees of the election commission will vote for your amendments with your ballot. No need to give them a chance to rig the vote.
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 16: 41
          -5
          You do not understand, for you already voted, you Pamfilova has it told the Russian language. No matter kauyu zakovyka you put "FOR" or "AGAINST", you are required turnout ie recording that you have already received the newsletter. WHAT vote, it is not important, it is important how to count!
          Think for yourself, WHY is there such massive advertising? Does the slogan "vote or lose" mean anything to you? WHY was such massive advertising launched across ALL media? Even the fucking TNT was connected. Don't you think this is strange? WHY such massive advertising?
          And then, with your ARRIVAL at the polling station, PERSONALLY YOU will legitimize this FARS! Already voted for you, HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS?!?!?! YOU NEED ANOTHER ONLY !!!
          Understand it already!
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 28 June 2020 18: 08
            +1
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            And then, that by YOUR ARRIVAL at the polling station, PERSONALLY YOU will legitimize this FARS!
            Nonsense! Legitimate without you! All who did not say their word - in fact, cast a voice of the opposite content.
            1. Normal ok
              Normal ok 28 June 2020 20: 21
              -2
              Quote: Simargl
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              And then, that by YOUR ARRIVAL at the polling station, PERSONALLY YOU will legitimize this FARS!
              Nonsense! Legitimate without you! All who did not say their word - in fact, cast a voice of the opposite content.

              In fact, everything is much sadder. Have you read the news about how journalist Pavel Lobkov voted twice in one day without any problems (remotely and in person)? In other words, whether you come or not, whether you vote “for” or “against,” it doesn't matter anymore. Draw any turnout and approval numbers. This is not even a scam, it is a slave system.
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 28 June 2020 21: 05
                +1
                Quote: Normal ok
                Lobkov in one day voted twice without problems (remotely and personally)?
                Is the further fate of the votes known? Cancellation of electronic records in the presence of paper - is this rubbish?

                Quote: Normal ok
                In other words, whether you come or not, whether you vote “for” or “against,” it doesn't matter anymore.
                Those. Do you continue to agitate for absolutely legitimate winding up?

                Quote: Normal ok
                This is not even a scam, it is a slave system.
                When was it canceled?
          2. Whowhy
            Whowhy 29 June 2020 00: 12
            -1
            You didn’t understand anything - it’s just for the authorities that it is very beneficial for everyone who is potentially against staying at home. So, all these slogans are just invented by the authorities:
            “The authorities are only interested in the appearance, and the percentage will be drawn as needed. When we come, we increase turnout, that is, we play into the hands of the authorities. ”
            Then they can draw an appearance, then what would be the point in coming to agitation? Obviously, despite the possibility of fraud, something depends on the real results.
            "The authorities made a farce, voting is illegal, I am disgusted to participate in this."
            If we adhere to such a strategy, it will be beneficial for the authorities to organize more and more disgusting and more and more illegal electoral events each time, and then report on their support to the people. Do we want this?
            “By participating in the vote, we will legitimize (si) rule the regime.”
            It is not clear what this mythical legitimation means. What are the specific mechanisms of this process? For example, if in the country there will be 70% of the people “against”, 30% “for”, and out of 30% “for” everyone will come, and out of 70% “against” no one will come - how will this help “delegitimize” the regime? On the contrary, if 70% “against” comes and their votes cannot be completely falsified (or even succeeded - but we know that the signs of falsification are subsequently clarified by a variety of methods) - how does this legitimize the regime?
            "I do not want to participate in the game with cheaters."
            This is an incorrect analogy. If you are offered to play a game and you refuse, the game will not take place (and if it does, its outcome will not affect you in any way). A vote will take place in any case, and its outcome in any case will affect us. If you try to make this analogy correct - we are already in the game, we have already given the money away, and now we can try to take it away from the sharpie, or just leave with our head down.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 29 June 2020 13: 17
              -4
              Quote: whowhy

              0
              You didn’t understand anything - it’s just for the authorities that it is very beneficial for everyone who is potentially against staying at home. So, all these slogans are just invented by the authorities:
              “The authorities are only interested in the appearance, and the percentage will be drawn as needed. When we come, we increase turnout, that is, we play into the hands of the authorities. ”
              Then they can draw an appearance, then what would be the point in coming to agitation? Obviously, despite the possibility of fraud, something depends on the real results.
              "The authorities made a farce, voting is illegal, I am disgusted to participate in this."
              If we adhere to such a strategy, it will be beneficial for the authorities to organize more and more disgusting and more and more illegal electoral events each time, and then report on their support to the people. Do we want this?
              “By participating in the vote, we will legitimize (si) rule the regime.”
              It is not clear what this mythical legitimation means. What are the specific mechanisms of this process? For example, if in the country there will be 70% of the people “against”, 30% “for”, and out of 30% “for” everyone will come, and out of 70% “against” no one will come - how will this help “delegitimize” the regime? On the contrary, if 70% “against” comes and their votes cannot be completely falsified (or even succeeded - but we know that the signs of falsification are subsequently clarified by a variety of methods) - how does this legitimize the regime?
              "I do not want to participate in the game with cheaters."
              This is an incorrect analogy. If you are offered to play a game and you refuse, the game will not take place (and if it does, its outcome will not affect you in any way). A vote will take place in any case, and its outcome in any case will affect us. If you try to make this analogy correct - we are already in the game, we have already given the money away, and now we can try to take it away from the sharpie, or just leave with our head down.

              I thought about going to vote for a long time or not, but I read your fiery agitation and decided that we should not disappoint a fiery Russian patriot like you! I'll go tomorrow, vote for the amendments! Thank you, convinced! drinks
        2. Simargl
          Simargl 28 June 2020 18: 05
          +2
          Quote: BigBoss
          You have to go vote against.
          Need to go. And vote.
          Quote: BigBoss
          Otherwise, instead of you, the employees of the election commission will vote for your amendments with your ballot.
          Even if this is not done, they need only a quorum and silent adversaries.
          Quote: BigBoss
          No need to give them a chance to rig the vote.
          Everything is very simple: one FOR is neutralized by one AGAINST. One outstretched AGAINST is one active FOR ...
      8. Lamp post
        Lamp post 28 June 2020 16: 35
        +1
        Vote against. Ignore is sabotage.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 28 June 2020 18: 11
          +2
          Quote: Lamp post
          Ignore is sabotage.
          Ignore is +1 in the "FOR" box.
          How pseudo-OPPONENTS became more active ...
          1. Lamp post
            Lamp post 28 June 2020 19: 23
            -2
            So even more so, let him hurry to vote. What are we rubbing here against?
            Ps clone Stoll, are you responsible for the Varyag in the first person?
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 28 June 2020 19: 33
              0
              Quote: Lamp post
              What are we rubbing here against?
              So I say: did you notice how agitated those who position themselves as opponents of the amendments, but campaign to stay at home?
              But everyone who has sat out AGAINST is FOR.
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      9. vadivm59
        vadivm59 28 June 2020 16: 43
        -3
        but I walked, they gave me a pen !!!. I actually went for it, I will keep it! and you didn’t go in vain with your family, they would give you a lot))). and you think that you proved something to someone? I voted for the preservation of the USSR a long time ago, and what? Everyone knows the result. So I don’t make my nerves, and I don’t advise you.
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 16: 54
          -2
          vadivm59 (vadim)
          and I went, they gave me a pen !!!.
          CONGRATULATIONS!!! You sold the future of your children for the "pen"!
          I understand perfectly well that instead of me someone SHOULD put some kind of record, BUT ... They can repeat as much as they want about "nationwide" support, which is NOT! And I definitely DIDN'T PARTICIPATE in this! They can fake records as much as they want, sign for me, BUT THIS IS A LIE!
          And the only way out of this is, DO NOT WALK !!! "FOR or" AGAINST "they will draw it as they need it, but here's the YAVKA, they are unlikely to be able to draw, although they will try hard.
          SO HERE LET'S GETTING OLD !!!
          1. Achilles
            Achilles 28 June 2020 18: 29
            -3
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            CONGRATULATIONS!!! You sold the future of your children for the "pen"!

            How do amendments affect future children for the worse?
          2. Aag
            Aag 28 June 2020 19: 34
            +1
            We have advertisements on the radio: "It's easy to win an apartment! It is enough to come to the polling station, vote, approach KP (Komsomolskaya Pravda) volunteers, answer three questions ... The winner will be determined by the computer ..."
      10. Simargl
        Simargl 28 June 2020 17: 13
        0
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce
        Fine! You are against, but give an extra vote to those who are FOR. You see, the simplest puzzle with apples is not understood by you.
        1. SVD68
          SVD68 28 June 2020 20: 07
          +1
          Quote: Simargl

          Fine! You are against, but give an extra vote to those who are FOR. You see, the simplest puzzle with apples is not understood by you

          It is not clear to you that the apples are not there. VOTING AGAINST is also voting FOR. At least for the Yeltsin constitution. As a maximum FOR the current government, which under the Yeltsin constitution received power and lived well for herself.
          1. Simargl
            Simargl 28 June 2020 21: 13
            +1
            Quote: SVD68
            VOTING AGAINST is also voting FOR.
            This would be if there were a little more points than two. And so -You are wrong!
            Quote: SVD68
            At least for the Yeltsin constitution.
            They will put a signature for you. More precisely - you do not oppose nothing.
            Quote: SVD68
            As a maximum FOR the current government, which under the Yeltsin constitution received power and lived well for herself.
            It will be even better. And YOU indulge in this.
      11. Achilles
        Achilles 28 June 2020 17: 46
        +5
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        At least someone from the supporters of voting "FOR" can clearly tell me without pathos, FOR what actually you voted for?

        1) in Article 67: b) to be supplemented with part 21 of the following content: the Russian Federation shall protect its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed. "; - This means publicly or not only to say that part of the territory should be surrendered Russia will not succeed, now they are talking about what needs to be given to Crimea, the Kuril Islands, Kaliningrad, it (the call to give part of the territory) will press on the minds of young people and can then play sideways for Russia (Do you understand the point or not?)
        2) The priority of Russian law over international. Decisions of interstate bodies adopted on the basis of the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretation that are contrary to the Constitution are not enforceable. (I think this does not need to be explained or is it necessary?)
        3) Tighter requirements for candidates for the presidency of Russia. The period of continuous residence in the country increases to 25 years from the current 10, in addition, the applicant for the highest position is prohibited from having foreign citizenship or a residence permit abroad at the time of nomination or ever in the past. - This means that it will be difficult for the authorities to break through such as Navalny, all sorts of aligarchs, such who will sell their homeland for a pittance.
        4) The entry of local governments and public authorities into a single system of public authority and the implementation of interaction for the most effective solution of problems in the interests of the population. - How is this amendment not comfortable or will it make life worse?
        5) Extension of the powers of the State Duma - approval of the candidacy of the prime minister, deputy prime ministers with ministers (with the exception of the heads of law enforcement agencies). At the same time, the president retains the right to approve the structure of federal executive bodies, make changes to it, and also dismiss the chairman of the government from office. - Is it really bad that the powers of the State Duma are expanding? Will it be bad for you personally?
        More than half of the amendments that supplement the existing ones and is it really bad? The amendments themselves will not make the life of citizens worse.
        If you are worried about extending Putin’s term, most of them support him, if you don’t support him, it doesn’t mean that no one supports him, my opinion is that there is no replacement for Putin at the moment.
        Putin is not eternal, but the amendments will remain. The Constitution was written in 93g. with the direct participation of the United States. And yes, the most important thing is for the amendments that we vote, according to the Constitution, the people’s opinion might not be asked, the constitution has parts that can be changed without the people, but there are people that can’t be done without, but here they ask us to vote (for or against) although they might not ask. + All the trash like Navolnit and traitors against amendments, this already says something.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 28 June 2020 19: 30
          +1
          Quote: Achilles
          Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states)
          those. people removed from the process? Well, as with Damansky, for example.
          Quote: Achilles
          This means publicly or not only saying that you need to give part of the territory of Russia will not work
          And this is not done. The territory is populated by a population loyal to a certain state, representatives penetrate into power, an disloyal population is squeezed out, and then an interstate agreement to re-mark the state border of the Russian Federation. So the amendment is Filkin’s letter and does not solve anything.

          Quote: Achilles
          The priority of Russian law over international. Decisions of interstate bodies adopted on the basis of the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretation, contrary to the Constitution, are not enforceable. (I think this does not need to be explained or is it necessary?)
          It is very necessary to explain. The fact is that the current Constitution does not contain obligations to enforce decisions of any court. There is an obligation to comply with international standards. And court decisions will force us to execute sanctions, if necessary. So whether an amendment is needed that does not cancel Art. 15.4? And is it necessary to cancel it (Article 15.4)?
          Quote: Achilles
          Tighter requirements for candidates for the presidency of Russia.
          Is it really big? There is a ban on money abroad, but not in foreign banks, there is no ban on real estate ...
          Quote: Achilles
          This means that it will be difficult for the authorities to break through such as Navalny, to all ̶а̶ oligarchs, who will sell their homeland for pennies.
          Squealed like a horse! Reservation? Heavy? Will it be almost impossible to pay Navalny to Raiffeisenbank (as an example)? And how will the corruption scheme differ? Under Stalin, the inability to have foreign assets helped a lot?
          Quote: Achilles
          More than half of the amendments that supplement the existing ones and is it really bad?
          Most are useless.
          Quote: Achilles
          The amendments themselves will not make the life of citizens worse.
          There is not one. Indicate if I am mistaken.
          Quote: Achilles
          Xia trash type Navolnit and traitors against the amendments, this already says something.
          Be careful when cornering! I voted FOR Putin, but AGAINST the amendments! tongue
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 28 June 2020 21: 35
          -1
          Quote: Achilles
          The constitution was written in 93g. with the direct participation of the United States.
          This makes small opponents of the vote so loudly strain.
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          1. Simargl
            Simargl 29 June 2020 04: 32
            0
            Quote: whowhy
            Do you understand the essence?
            Do you know how everything happens? 99% of the people look at explanations, because the original text is rather long (all the more so - of the entire constitution: there is more than one page) and confusing. And "clarifications" can distort the meaning as required by the author.
            Everything is exactly as you indicate.

            Quote: whowhy
            Navalny clearly showed who he was working for, announcing a boycott of the vote, thereby delaying the huge number of people who would voted "против".
            drinks yes
      12. Vicontas
        Vicontas 28 June 2020 20: 30
        -2
        Alexander Staver - as Churchill said - "Who chooses shame, and not war, he receives both shame and war!"
      13. DPN
        DPN 28 June 2020 22: 26
        +2
        My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go myself.
        Here only: FOR or AGAINST, your ignore goes automatically FOR. so don’t powder your brains. It’s just that YOU will be fucked.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 29 June 2020 07: 53
          0
          Quote: DPN
          My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go myself.
          Select a quote somehow. Otherwise, you can assume that you say so.
      14. Esaul
        Esaul 28 June 2020 22: 45
        +5
        By the way, soon Sands may announce that indexation may be negative)))
      15. bayard
        bayard 29 June 2020 00: 59
        -3
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        One question. WHAT actually did you vote for? WHAT was such an amendment worth voting for in bulk?

        Only one amendment is worth voting for. And if it is NECESSARY - in bulk, because everything else can then be changed, corrected.
        And this amendment is the abolition of the GLOBALITY of international (read - foreign) legislation over actually Russian one.
        ALL !
        The rest is garbage, associated noise.
        Thanks to the supremacy of THEIR legislation, juvenile justice, foreign subversive funds and other consulting companies are rampant in our country ... We HAVE such a MISCONDITION like the Central Bank !!! A foreign, supranational structure that does not obey anyone, but at the same time controls the entire financial system, produces (regardless of the Russian state !!!) the emission of the "Russian" ruble ... keeps the level of monetization (the fullness of the financial market with domestic currency) at the level .. .40% of GDP !!! Whereas in the whole world, even not free, this level is about 100% (even in the most extreme / worst cases - not lower than 50%), and in the leading economies of the world - above 100%, and even in some of them - above 200%.
        How will you feel if you pump out 60% of the blood?
        But this provision (the Law on the Central Bank) does not allow changing ... international legislation, the subordination (!!!) to which is written down precisely in the Yeltsin Constitution, which was imposed on us after the 1993 massacre in Moscow.
        A "fiscal rule" Do you also like that? !!!
        According to which all budget revenues are limited to us from above - everything that is more than allowed goes to the Western, or at worst just - foreign funds (for some reason they are called "reserve" in our country) ...
        Are you and THIS robbery ready to defend?
        Well, or SILENT ("ignore") agree?
        With the continuation of atrocities.
        Do you like that "Russian" banks issue loans at SUCH interest rates?
        And ONLY on bail?

        So who do you like?
        Communists who betrayed (once again) their voters?
        I didn’t hand over my Soviet passport until they seized it during the arrest of the SBU, but the modern Communist Party is a private firm named after Zyuganov, calabrants and sloths running to bow to every new US ambassador ... who advocate maintaining the inviolability of the colonial constitution, continuing this bacchanalia ...

        For me, in all these amendments, only ONE matters.
        For the sake of which this vote was started.
        In January of this year.
        When Medvedev resigned with the entire economic bloc.
        All the other (amendments) were stuck later - in the course of various ... discussions ..
        Chatted all !!!
        Came up with "zeroing" ...
        But who cares?
        Do not like this president - choose another for yourself, at least nominate yourself as a candidate.

        But it was after the announcement of the amendment of the Basic Law that all the whistle-blowing began - "zeroing out", a fake "epidemic", sabotage and raging "power" on the ground ... the buildup of the people into a riot, and guest workers ... just like American blacks .. . for robbery and robbery.
        You will track the chronology of events WHAT began immediately after the announcement of voting for genuine state sovereignty.
        And you will be very surprised how everything is harmonious and rhythmic ...
        hi
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 29 June 2020 05: 07
          0
          Quote: bayard
          And this amendment is the abolition of the GLOBALITY of international (read - foreign) legislation over actually Russian one.
          In order to write this - you need to figure it out.
          Is your statement knowledge-based?
          Do you know that international law is discussed, adopted, enforced, including with our participation, i.e. all the rules - and our minds are the cause. In addition, ratification is required for a performance obligation.
          Are international norms really bad?
          1. bayard
            bayard 29 June 2020 15: 55
            -2
            Quote: Simargl
            In order to write this - you need to figure it out.

            Who's stopping you, sort it out. Now everything, or almost everything is in the public domain.
            Quote: Simargl
            Is your statement knowledge-based?

            Not in fantasies and emotions. Back in 1992, one of my programs saved one of the leading branches of the modern Russian economy from collapse. And not only from the collapse, but also from bankruptcy and, as a result, the sale of its assets to foreign companies. Now it is a bulwark and the main donor of the Russian budget.
            So I have enough horizons for my assessments.
            Quote: Simargl
            Do you know that international legislation is being discussed, adopted, enforced, including with our participation?

            Are you sure about that ? When was it with you (us) that such decisions were agreed upon?
            On the other hand, the supremacy of THEIR legislation is spelled out in OUR Constitution. That is why the IMF, the World Bank and other funny guys are rampaging ... Remind you about the "Pension reform"?
            Who obliged Russia to accept this bestiality?
            Or are you satisfied with the role and policy of the "Russian" Central Bank?
            Now we are watching how they chatted, shook and drowned the MAIN amendment, for which everything was started.
            Have you not noticed?
            Sorry .
            hi
            Quote: Simargl
            Are international norms really bad?

            They should not contradict and replace NATIONAL legislation.
            Otherwise, THIS is simple - slavery.
            As with juvenile justice.
            Will you protect her too?
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 29 June 2020 18: 01
              -1
              Quote: bayard
              They should not contradict and replace NATIONAL legislation.
              Substitute?

              Quote: bayard
              Otherwise THIS is simple - slavery
              Now slavery is politically correct called lending. The state, company, person - it does not matter to the bank who will be a slave.

              Quote: bayard
              As with juvenile justice
              She will be dragged in with the "protection" of children. You missed it.

              Quote: bayard
              You and her will protect
              Does it exist in international law? What article? Juvenile juvenile discord. Juvenile laws in the USSR were, if that. What exactly is there to protect? Or would you just blurt out?

              Quote: bayard
              Therefore, the IMF, the World Bank and other funny guys are outraging ...
              Don’t get scared. You do not understand what you are talking about. The IMF is rampaging for a completely different reason - because it can. Or maybe because it can impose conditions for the issuance and repayment of loans. And where is there something in the amendments that can withstand the IMF and other "funny" but greedy guys?

              Quote: bayard
              Remind you about "Pension Reform"?
              The problem began to be discussed in the USSR. And in any case she would be pushed. I am surprised that this was not done in the 90s.

              Quote: bayard
              Now we are watching how they chatted, shook and drowned the MAIN amendment
              Is that what? The primacy of international law not in dispute! Disputed INTERPRETATION! But on this occasion has already made an explanation to the COP !!! How to talk to you if you don’t even know how to read ?!

              If you are talking about another amendment - specify immediately, to avoid misunderstanding.
              1. bayard
                bayard 29 June 2020 18: 48
                -4
                Quote: Simargl
                The IMF is rampaging for a completely different reason - because it can. Or maybe because it can impose conditions for the issuance and repayment of loans. And where is there something in the amendments that can withstand the IMF and other "funny" but greedy guys?

                Are you raving
                And who imposed these loans on Russia and its economy?
                And why is the "Russian" banknotes printed / issued by the regional branch of the IMF?
                Because it could impose?
                But as ?
                With what ?
                IT registered in the Constitution of the Russian Federation after the bloody coup in Moscow in 1993.
                The national currency of a SOVEREIGN state must be emitted by the Treasury of that state. And the National Bank of Russia should lend to the economy, through its regional offices and, perhaps, through commercial banks, but certainly on its own terms.
                And all this should be carried out under the FULL control of the Ministry of Finance, the Head of Government and the President of the Country.
                Russia SAMA should and can lend to its economy.
                Or maybe you are here raskazhet as the "fiscal rule", it is purely "a sovereign and voluntary" decision of the authorities of the Russian Federation?
                The IMF has nothing to do with it?
                Sure ?
                And how does he do this?
                Is it because it is spelled out in the Constitution?

                And how to get rid of it?
                Explicit ordering is not possible - the Constitution prohibits.
                And how to change this article of the Constitution?
                If the Constitution does not give rights to this?
                But just the provision on the primacy of domestic law over international.
                It was only after the adoption of such an amendment can revoke "of the Central Bank Law" and many other things, from the outside wrought.
                Are you against it?
                Not at all surprised.
                And you have the right to express your opinion.
                By voting against.
                But fooling people's heads with their ravings and stirring up Negro passions for "zeroing" ... it's not good.

                And do not deal with casuistry and verbal tricks with me ... this is pathetic and funny for a knowledgeable person.
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 30 June 2020 05: 27
                  -1
                  Quote: bayard
                  Are you raving
                  Probably.

                  Quote: bayard
                  And who imposed these loans on Russia and its economy?
                  And why is the "Russian" banknotes printed / issued by the regional branch of the IMF?
                  Because it could impose?
                  But as ?
                  With what ?
                  Should I tell you a story? You did not live then? Ask your parents how and what.
                  As economic ties collapsed overnight, the release of "high-quality" Soviet products using "newest" equipment became unnecessary and not profitable ... the consequences are important - unnecessary and unprofitable. How Yelqing began to beg for loans (oga - imposed) ...

                  Quote: bayard
                  IT registered in the Constitution of the Russian Federation after the bloody coup in Moscow in 1993.
                  Which item exactly? And then I know the letters, but I read with difficulty, it seems.

                  Quote: bayard
                  The IMF has nothing to do with it?
                  Well, go to the bank for a loan, impose your conditions. I have heard only about one person (a Voronezh resident, it seems) who could. Will not work? So what has the IMF to do with it, which has its own tasks and tools? Or some who did not read the "small print"?
                  Quote: bayard
                  Is it because it is spelled out in the Constitution?
                  Still waiting for a reference ... or article number.

                  Quote: bayard
                  And how to get rid of it?
                  1 - Develop an army.
                  2 - Constitutional Assembly.
                  Everything else is from the evil one.

                  Quote: bayard
                  But just the provision on the primacy of domestic law over international.
                  So it is not in the amendments. Not at all! You’ve been driven into a blizzard!
                  There is a point that interpretations will be disputed! And this means that court decisions will be challenged, but if it is recognized that these decisions are in accordance with International Law, they will be accepted! You do not understand this? Regrettably. And one more thing: the Constitutional Court has already given explanations on this subject, so the amendment is not needed - it is useless.

                  Quote: bayard
                  It was only after the adoption of such an amendment can revoke "of the Central Bank Law" and many other things, from the outside wrought.
                  Nothing will change! The amendment does not cancel the requirements to fulfill the concluded contracts. And they will take loans - enslaving agreements and will continue to be sucked in.

                  Quote: bayard
                  Are you against it?
                  I, in fact, against many points of the current Constitution, but also against dusting the brains and vparivaniya useless and even more harmful amendments. I do not want the bad to get worse.
                  Quote: bayard
                  And you have the right to express your opinion.
                  By voting against.
                  So am I already. Thank you for allowing.

                  Quote: bayard
                  But fooling people's heads with their ravings and stirring up Negro passions for "zeroing" ... it's not good.
                  Don't attribute to me what I don't do! I don't care about "zeroing"! If it was one harmful point - would vote FOR, but this is one of the useless, among the harmful.

                  Quote: bayard
                  And do not deal with casuistry and verbal tricks with me ... this is pathetic and funny for a knowledgeable person.
                  How so? You messed up nonsense here, but now you still do not understand the meaning of the proposal you wrote tongue
                  ... however, I now realized why you do not understand the meaning of the amendments.
        2. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 29 June 2020 11: 38
          -1
          Moreover, they are silent that the pension reform was launched from above by the IMF, and not only to us.
          1. bayard
            bayard 29 June 2020 16: 06
            -3
            Many accepted this reform much earlier, Russia resisted ... And it (Putin) was broken through the knee, under the threat of mass attacks in the football championship.
            When Putin announced his decision to hold a constitutional reform, the whole economic bloc of the government immediately resigned, began with Display orgy of "zeroing", sabotage of all branches of local authorities (!), Hysteria koronobesiya with the collapse of the economy and the training of social explosions, shocks and riots - on the similarity of the Negro in the United States.
            And who is the moderator of all these demons?
            The one whom these reforms should \ may deprive of power and control over all of us.
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 29 June 2020 17: 27
              -1
              And how many times did they reset their foreign accounts? No, all the boots are kissed by the master abroad ... People of servile rank are real dogs sometimes, the heavier the punishment, the better they are gentlemen (s).
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      17. minus
        minus 29 June 2020 07: 09
        +1
        A rotten position. If you have to go against it, you should vote against it. Talks that anyway will count as it should be off topic. Well, let them try ... I’m going to vote against now. And even if they replace the results, at least conscience will be clear. And of course, as many people as possible are lured to the plots in the hope that those who are not satisfied with the protest will not come, but they will come to vote for. Here we have a draw of cars, apartments and smartphones)))) Give a leaf
        with questions about the knowledge of the constitution. A nurse's assistant from kindergarten won odnushka in Krasnoyarsk in Minusinsk. A class leader of the middle son agitates everyone to vote in a chat in Vaiber .... But then in general a message came from her - *** Unsubscribe, please, who already voted to me in PM. Thank you in advance!
        You understand that it is not out of personal curiosity.
        1. bayard
          bayard 29 June 2020 16: 21
          -2
          This is a frank and thoughtful ANTI-ADVERTISEMENT, for the formation of a completely sincere popular protest. That is, the local authorities, which are opposed to this reform, pump up the hysteria "come and vote", bring another, report "," vote and win the lottery ", knowing full well that in this way they will only more strongly push people against liberation from supranational yoke.
          After all, all these actions allegedly "for voting" are carried out by the same people who sabotaged presidential decrees, plundered the budget and additional funds. payments to doctors, told people about "macaroshki" and "we did not force you to give birth."
          And they spend it EXACTLY so that people do not vote!
          And very successful in IT.
          Here I am, according to members of the forum, watching this.
          But everyone has their own right to choose, and their own free will.
          Sometimes slavery is chosen ...
          And with songs and dances.
      18. alecsis69
        alecsis69 30 June 2020 00: 08
        0
        MALADETs, go to the editorial office of Echo of Moscow or to Navalny, maybe they will buy you candy from their grants.
      19. KLV
        KLV 30 June 2020 11: 03
        0
        A counter question: who do you (exactly you!) See as president of the Russian Federation? Prime Minister? I ask for specific names, without the indistinct "Well, I don't know ... It's a matter of principle ... This is irrelevant ...".
    2. Malyuta
      Malyuta 28 June 2020 10: 59
      +13
      It is strange that the author has turned from a "hippan" into a "sovereign", it strongly reminds me of a "training manual": "I never voted for Putin, but the ox is now ..."
      Friends, let's clearly define ourselves without political bias, what has the government done over the past 20 years, who has governed the country all these years? You can go through personalities, you can do their work.
      For example, I remember the Mir station, the privatization of RAO UES, Cam Ranh, Lourdes, the total rise in prices of everything and everything from year to year, the two-stage penny reform, at first the penny was taken away. savings, and then increased pension age, etc. can go on for a long time ...
      I would also like to note that the collapse of the Russian Federation is a bogeyman, there are no prerequisites for this, but if today's leaders continue their economic policy in the same spirit, it will simply die out, as the red-haired bit called “natural selection”.
      But these words I pity support:
      I no longer want to live the way they live there. I want to live as I like.
      and I’ll add that I want to live in a fair and prosperous country, where there are no poor, where there is a secured old age, where young people have prospects.
      Now, unfortunately, I don’t see anything of this! hi
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 28 June 2020 11: 25
        +21
        Well, you don’t see it right ... price tags at the gas station to help you ... another breakthrough on the whole face-face ...
        today refuel at the miller ... 92nd plus immediately 70 kopecks. = 44,20 ... and the 95th is already under fifty dollars = 49,50 ...
        and July 01 has not yet arrived ...
        then after zeroing life will be even "more beautiful and more fun" ...
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 28 June 2020 11: 54
          +5
          Quote: kepmor
          Well, you don’t see it right ... price tags at the gas station to help you ... another breakthrough on the whole face-face ...
          today refuel at the miller ... 92nd plus immediately 70 kopecks. = 44,20 ... and the 95th is already under fifty dollars = 49,50 ...
          and July 01 has not yet arrived ...
          then after zeroing life will be even "more beautiful and more fun" ...

          A zaputintsam do not care, as long as their ass was warm, just do not understand what it is for them nenadolgo.Ya remember 2018 after the adoption of pens.reformy many who voted "for" Putinism tearing their hair in all places, felts More will be.
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 28 June 2020 12: 28
            +3
            Quote: Malyuta
            A zaputintsam do not care, as long as their ass was warm, just do not understand what it is for them nenadolgo.Ya remember 2018 after the adoption of pens.reformy many who voted "for" Putinism tearing their hair in all places, felts More will be.

            Unfortunately, many people have a memory like fish in an aquarium for 2 hours.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 28 June 2020 21: 41
              -1
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              many people have a memory like fish in an aquarium for 2 hours
              People with bird (4-hour!) Memory definitely have reason to be proud: they sit high on the evolution tree, they can spoil others ...
              1. alekseykabanets
                alekseykabanets 29 June 2020 00: 17
                +1
                Quote: sniperino
                People with bird (4-hour!) Memory definitely have reason to be proud: they sit high on the evolution tree, they can spoil others ...

                Have you been bullied by people with bird (4-hour!) Memory? If so, I am very sorry to have to wrap myself around it.
                1. sniperino
                  sniperino 29 June 2020 00: 24
                  0
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Have you been bullied by people with bird (4-hour!) Memory?
                  Campaign, yes, but this does not apply to you. I will not flow around, it’s better to swim and sleep.
          2. lopvlad
            lopvlad 28 June 2020 12: 45
            -9
            Quote: Malyuta
            But the Zaputinites don't give a damn about it, if only their ass was warm, they just don’t understand that this is for them for a short time.


            based on reflections on the bubble and gasoline prices, it is not the zaputintsy who care about "the backside in the heat" but those who are against Putin and the amendments on the priority of Russian sovereignty. then emanate heart-rending squeals.
            Maybe you should raise a heel to the top and see the political situation around?
            1. Revival
              Revival 28 June 2020 14: 13
              +15
              We can.
              Why do we see that a separate group finds everything in the trough, but the population does not find and does not find everything?
              Why is Vasilieva released a few days later and received silver coins conditionally, but a simple person sits down for a bag of potatoes for 6 years?
              Norm?
            2. Simargl
              Simargl 29 June 2020 07: 56
              0
              Quote: lopvlad
              Those who are against the Constitution, the main thing is the trough, and if they do not find something there for personal consumption, they emit a heart-rending screech.
              Naglits against the constitution laughing wink
              For example, I am against the current constitution, but even more against the wrecking amendments that they are trying to push through.
          3. Vadim237
            Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 32
            0
            This is for those who honestly pay taxes and develop their business - forever, since nothing will hinder it, and if you and all of your people are sitting in shit and do not care at all, then this does not mean that everyone else should sit in these conditions like you.
          4. Tank hard
            Tank hard 29 June 2020 13: 21
            -1
            Quote: Malyuta
            A zaputintsam do not care, as long as their ass was warm, just do not understand what it is for them nenadolgo.Ya remember 2018 after the adoption of pens.reformy many who voted "for" Putinism tearing their hair in all places, felts More will be.

            It will be for Kuyevlians for happiness. We know. wink
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 28 June 2020 11: 38
        -6
        Quote: Malyuta
        I want to live in a fair and prosperous country where there are no poor

        That is, in Paradise.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 28 June 2020 11: 46
          -4
          Quote: Dart2027

          That is, in Paradise.

          But without Putin wassat
          1. tracer
            tracer 28 June 2020 12: 11
            -13
            Zadolbali you writing heresy .chem your friend because Putin is not satisfied with it? This is the mantra straight "leburdy". You probably dream of paradise. And the reality of it though as it is not on friendly terms? Putin prevents him personally probably directly interfere. And .. and a few others? Nabiullina, Miller, so what is it? You take any, and the same write about him and about all together "all steal," bureaucrats zazhralis everywhere barracks and fall to come up .. Well ... to calm down if the anxiety is so high, see your doctor, and do not do yourself licking huskies these people are not very distant. It is ridiculous to look at your group therapy. Anyone who is not of your opinion would you spat. But I'm not of your opinion, and exactly the same people like you and I "for" amendment. And I will vote removed and my family will be. Since I do not have the opportunity to vote not remotely. I hate when you here of himself "all the people" portray. Rude not recommend it. Like crap code words "Without Putin" this favorite sayings all uporotyh "leburoidov".
            1. tracer
              tracer 28 June 2020 12: 14
              -14
              And Sasha Rogers wrote everything right. And I followed exactly the same path of personality development as he did, as did millions of my fellow citizens.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 28 June 2020 13: 18
                +6
                Quote: tracer
                And Sasha Rogers wrote everything right. And I followed exactly the same path of personality development as he did, as did millions of my fellow citizens.

                Judging by the fact that you refer to trelodgers as an authority on your personality development, you dreamed.
                1. tracer
                  tracer 28 June 2020 13: 32
                  -8
                  Rogers is not an authority to me. This is for you the authorities are important. And just so that at least sometimes "the parasha will push." I draw conclusions in life not by order, but myself. So I can do without your opinion.
              2. sniperino
                sniperino 28 June 2020 22: 01
                +1
                Quote: tracer
                And I followed exactly the same path of personality development as he did, as did millions of my fellow citizens.
                One of the rare articles here about the time of "developed socialism", in which you see the real life of young people in the USSR, and do not hear the program "Lenin University of Millions".
            2. bk0010
              bk0010 28 June 2020 12: 23
              +5
              Quote: tracer
              Zadolbali you heresy write
              This is called "truth".
              Quote: tracer
              Why are you my friend so Putin does not like it?
              The fact that his actions lead to the degradation of the country.
              Quote: tracer
              Putin bothers him probably directly personally bothers. .. And who else? Nabiulina, Miller but what is there? You take anyone and write the same thing about him and about everyone together, "everyone steals," the bureaucrats got drunk, everywhere there is a barrack
              That is, you are aware of this, but all the same "for"? But...
              Quote: tracer
              Calm down if the anxiety is so high, consult a doctor, and do not lick the likes of your own kind of not very distant people.
              Do not tell me what to do and I will not tell you where to go.
              Quote: tracer
              It’s unpleasant for me when you’re playing "all the people" here.
              Bear the truth.
              1. tracer
                tracer 28 June 2020 12: 28
                -10
                My friend, you got the truth with the phantoms of the not-so-healthy desire to hype on the site. For the mentally inadequate, their nonsense is true, but exclusively for them. But you will be cured, or orderlies will re-educate your reality. Swallow this pill and drink some water.
                1. bk0010
                  bk0010 28 June 2020 12: 31
                  +6
                  My friend, you have a TV instead of a brain, severe poisoning by nightingale droppings. Look around you, make an effort, bring your picture of the world in accordance with reality, not with the picture.
                  1. tracer
                    tracer 28 June 2020 12: 39
                    -13
                    I have many TVs, on asech 3 floors of my house, but there is no time to watch them especially. As well as hanging on the site endlessly. Those who really are doing something they are busy people. So you gudanul again in a puddle, as usual. Your measured punishment with impunity here on the site comes precisely from the fact that normal people just have no time to deal with you and put you in a stall in verbal battles.
                    1. bk0010
                      bk0010 28 June 2020 12: 41
                      +8
                      Normal people are on my side, but you are in the stall.
                      1. tracer
                        tracer 28 June 2020 12: 44
                        -11
                        Do you have a beer can and pension with a monitor? Not these are not people .. These are not living organisms at all, even though you are talking to them. What are you sad friend? Accustomed to yapping at anyone who is positive and good in life sees and does. Nothing, get used to it.
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                      10. Magnat231
                        Magnat231 28 June 2020 13: 35
                        +1
                        And what are you normal about, when you blamed the union, you were in the first sobs too, I wanted a different life, Borya came, also not that Putin came, and he is not needed, and who, last name in the studio
                      11. bk0010
                        bk0010 28 June 2020 13: 45
                        +4
                        When the union fell, I was too small for the front ranks, so the claim is not for me. And I just really would not want another collapse and revolution (for purely selfish reasons). In contrast, apparently, from the current powers that be, which are ruining the economy and embitter the population. It’s hard with surnames: the current camarilla makes great efforts so that the country does not know about new leaders. So for starters - Grudinin (he will disperse the Sechins with the Rottenbergs), and then we'll see.
                      12. sniperino
                        sniperino 28 June 2020 22: 22
                        0
                        Quote: bk0010
                        for starters - Grudinin (he will disperse the Sechins with the Rottenbergs), and then we'll see.
                        To begin with, he will squeeze out their business, there is nothing to watch. Only he will not come, better wait for Santa Claus: this one always comes with gifts.
                      13. Fan-fan
                        Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 32
                        0
                        Surname Ivanov.
                      14. begemot20091
                        begemot20091 29 June 2020 04: 54
                        0
                        in the madhouse today is a day off. your team will definitely have a replenishment.
                    2. Varyag71
                      Varyag71 29 June 2020 10: 51
                      0
                      What is your house? What are 3 floors? Storyteller.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 29 June 2020 11: 05
                        +1
                        Quote: Varyag71
                        What is your house? What are 3 floors? Storyteller.

                        This patriot from Canada is scribbling.
                    3. Timeout
                      Timeout 1 July 2020 08: 24
                      -1
                      Quote: tracer
                      I have many TVs, on asech 3 floors of my house,

                      Well, yes, tell me what else is bought and not in a mortgage.
                      Quote: tracer
                      but there’s no time to watch them. As well as hanging on the site endlessly.

                      For that you quote Putin as if RenTV was watching without stopping. It's funny ..
              2. Achilles
                Achilles 28 June 2020 18: 37
                -3
                Quote: bk0010
                Quote: tracer
                Why are you my friend so Putin does not like it?
                The fact that his actions lead to the degradation of the country.

                More specifically, what kind of actions can lead to the degradation of the country?
                1. bk0010
                  bk0010 29 June 2020 00: 14
                  +2
                  Of course you can: dial into a search engine, "the number of hospitals in Russia by years" (reduced to the level of the 50s), "the number of schools in Russia for years" (here the degradation is not so terrible, but constant), "Who retail chains belong to Russia "(Russian is not present, mainly the Netherlands)," The number of warheads in Russia by years "(2000 - about 6000 now 1550). And so I do not look - everywhere bad.
                  1. Simargl
                    Simargl 29 June 2020 08: 07
                    -1
                    Quote: bk0010
                    type in the search engine "the number of hospitals in Russia by year" (reduced to the level of the 50s
                    And what does it mean?
                    Optimization is not always bad, the number of hospitals does not always mean the number of doctors and even the quality of honey. services.
                    As an example, I underwent an operation, which in 1980 they undertook to do in three medical institutions of the USSR (they did it in Novosibirsk), and now it is being done in the not the largest regional one. According to the quota.
                    In the year I almost glued the fins - I needed urgent help, but if it weren’t for my aunt-doctor, I would have died 99% (this is about the quality of medicine). A good doctor should have been sought by friends. Like now. But now the technique also helps.
                    Yes, and another problem with your calculation: they used to stay in hospitals much longer, sometimes at times.
                    And I can throw an idea: count the number of leper colony in the 70s today.

                    Quote: bk0010
                    "The number of warheads in Russia by years" (2000 - about 6000, now 1550)
                    The United States, to start a civilian, enough is also 20. Next - the energy collapse and ...
                    1. bk0010
                      bk0010 30 June 2020 00: 02
                      0
                      Quote: Simargl
                      As an example, I underwent an operation, which in 1980 they undertook to do in three medical institutions of the USSR (they did it in Novosibirsk), and now it is being done in the not the largest regional one. According to the quota.
                      Damn, well, 40 years have passed, what's so surprising?
                      Tell me, how will a cool medical center in Moscow help you if you are in a village in the non-black earth region, and you have phlegmon? But the simplest paramedic would help. And a woman giving birth, who would not have to drag herself to the regional center, would also help. And so for 90% of cases (except for really difficult ones). By the word "optimization" the Russian bureaucracy understands the process of taking money away from the people for themselves. Let them save on themselves. And to stimulate the process to make them heal where they work. Neither them nor their families should be allowed into Moscow and over the hill. We've ruined healthcare - let them die together with the people.
                      1. Simargl
                        Simargl 30 June 2020 05: 50
                        -1
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Damn, well, 40 years have passed, what's so surprising?
                        I would also recall the backwardness of the hardware, but let's not talk about that. But over 40 years it didn’t get any worse. With that, at least ...

                        Quote: bk0010
                        if you are in a village in the non-chernozem region, and you have a phlegmon? But the simplest medical assistant would help.
                        Do you yourself understand what you are writing? That's just the paramedics in the villages and put. Now they are trying to simplify all small-town medicine: emergency care, common sores, and something at least somehow complicated - consultation with a specialist or a district center. It is right.
                        Well, tell me: they’ll put a tomograph in the village, what will it do there? But depreciation is on, the specialist must pay a salary.

                        Quote: bk0010
                        And giving birth to a woman who did not need to drag herself to the regional center would also help.
                        Suppose birth with complications. Will the paramedic help? Not. But to ruin two lives - completely. Especially without equipment. See the statistics on child mortality. In addition, now pregnancy is very tight.

                        Quote: bk0010
                        By the word "optimization" the Russian bureaucracy understands the process of taking money away from the people for themselves.
                        You just don't understand what is being done. Well, okay: there is a hospital, not yet optimized, in a large village. Come there with a complex abscess, fracture, peritonitis, pregnancy (not you - you brought your wife) ... what will they do there if such people appear in this hospital twice a year? Will they smear it with green tea? Or iodine? And in the "optimized", at the specialist, you will be the third for today, in the morning. And in the optimized one you will be sick for 3 days, and in the non-optimized one you can give it to the oak, if you don’t guess in the optimized one.
                        Another thing - for the sake of show, this is done archly! But the number of doctors, so far, is one of the largest per capita ...

                        Quote: bk0010
                        And to stimulate the process, make them be treated where they work.
                        What's the point? The equipment in top clinics is now no worse than a foreign one, anyone can be prescribed a doctor.

                        Quote: bk0010
                        Health care has collapsed - let them die with the people.
                        If you don't understand, the elite are those who have access to better benefits than the people. And even 40 ... 50 ... 70 years ago it was the same. Well ... "Heart of a Dog" revise. Everything that is not related to Sharikov is more interesting (or did you not guess?).
              3. sniperino
                sniperino 28 June 2020 22: 15
                +2
                Quote: bk0010
                his actions lead to the degradation of the country
                At the beginning of 2000 was the country so developed, and then degraded? Didn’t get drunk in the 90s, or something, nostalgia lifted you up ...
            3. snake
              snake 28 June 2020 13: 27
              +14
              Quote: tracer
              But I'm not your opinion, and exactly the same people as you, and I am "FOR" the amendments. And I will be removed to vote and my family will be. Since I do not have the opportunity to vote not remotely.

              What is it? Of those patriots who live abroad?
            4. Revival
              Revival 28 June 2020 14: 15
              +13
              That is, the norms are that the miller has millions per day, and even with the complete losses of Gazprom, and the middle class is 17000 rubles.?
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 28 June 2020 18: 17
                -4
                Quote: Revival
                That is, the norms are that the miller has millions per day, and even with the complete losses of Gazprom, and the middle class is 17000 rubles.?
                Not okay.
                The question then begs another: who will do it differently? Are there any candidates?
                Name at least one amendment that guarantees that it will be better if you are FOR.
                If you are opposed, but do not go, why don't you at least neutralize someone's FOR vote?
                1. Revival
                  Revival 28 June 2020 18: 38
                  +1
                  I'm not for it, I'll go, this is my personal opinion
                  1. Simargl
                    Simargl 28 June 2020 19: 02
                    -1
                    Quote: Revival
                    I will go,
                    To those who are FOR and CONS: we have a very different country before 2000 and after 2000 with the same Constitution. Maybe we should use what we have? And if you change, then much better. Start with the constitutional assembly, at least ...
                    1. alekseykabanets
                      alekseykabanets 28 June 2020 20: 17
                      -1
                      Quote: Simargl
                      To those who are FOR and CONS: we have a very different country before 2000 and after 2000 with the same Constitution. Maybe we should use what we have? And if you change, then much better. Start with the constitutional assembly, at least ...

                      In my opinion, there isn’t such a big difference between the positions not to go and vote against. The supporters of both positions have very weighty arguments.
                      1. Simargl
                        Simargl 28 June 2020 21: 08
                        -1
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        In my opinion, there isn’t such a big difference between the positions not to go and vote against.
                        Not. There is a position - you have to go.
                        Otherwise, you vote for the opposite opinion.
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        The supporters of both positions have very weighty arguments.
                        This is math. The simplest. But not everyone understands.
              2. Vadim237
                Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 37
                +2
                Gazprom has a net worth of almost 13 trillion rubles - what kind of loss do you have to write crap.
            5. Whowhy
              Whowhy 29 June 2020 00: 56
              -1
              So far, only you and your kind are rude here ... wink
          2. Clear
            Clear 28 June 2020 12: 52
            0
            Quote: Malyuta
            Quote: Dart2027

            That is, in Paradise.

            But without Putin wassat

            Why the word Пlowercase letter u Мcapital with capital? Is this a deliberate violation?
            1. tracer
              tracer 28 June 2020 13: 00
              -8
              And why "Malyuta" would immediately take "Mazepa" for himself. Yes, and more suitable.
              1. depressant
                depressant 28 June 2020 13: 15
                +4
                So who will finally explain to me why the hot topics published on VO appear on my phone after a few hours?!?
                1. tracer
                  tracer 28 June 2020 13: 22
                  -4
                  They can’t reach you ....)))
            2. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 28 June 2020 20: 20
              -1
              Quote: Clear
              And why the word Putin with a lowercase letter, and Malyuta with a capital? Is this a deliberate violation?

              I believe that this is a matter of respect or not respect for this character. I’m writing the same words Abromovich, Deripaska, Rotenberg with a small letter.
            3. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 29 June 2020 16: 41
              0
              Quote: Clear
              then intentional violation?

              Nothing out of the ordinary - this infantile organism thus tries to assert itself in its own eyes, yeah. From the side, nothing but disgust does not cause. yes hi
          3. Dart2027
            Dart2027 28 June 2020 14: 26
            -5
            Quote: Malyuta
            But without Putin

            Putin is man, and Paradise is God's estate.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 28 June 2020 22: 49
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              Quote: Malyuta
              But without Putin
              Putin is man, and Paradise is God's estate.
              If this is a basic requirement, then God may not have problems with sending the newly-deceased to otherworldly service to different units: they say that hell is taken to Hell only by His order.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 29 June 2020 19: 28
                +1
                Quote: sniperino
                If this is a basic requirement

                These are the realities of life. I don’t know what in the afterlife, but in ours there will always be injustice and inequality, etc.
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          5. RESEARCHER
            RESEARCHER 28 June 2020 18: 26
            +1
            Here one demand more insistently sounds - without Putin.
            Well, if only this, then it looks like paranoia.
            But isn’t it easier to get rid of Internet addiction and do something useful for oneself.
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 28 June 2020 12: 05
          +6
          Not. IN THE USSR.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 28 June 2020 14: 27
            -8
            Quote: paul3390
            Not. IN THE USSR.

            I happened to find the USSR and I don’t remember something universal equality and happiness.
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 28 June 2020 15: 49
              +3
              Quote: Dart2027
              I happened to find the USSR and I don’t remember something universal equality and happiness.

              But socialism could not guarantee you this; you apparently poorly studied Marxist-Leninist philosophy. However, now with our wild capitalism you have truly become happy - I congratulate you on the fulfillment of your dream. So smile more often, proving to everyone that life was a success, and all the remaining 95% of Russian citizens will be happy for you.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 28 June 2020 16: 03
                -4
                Quote: ccsr
                But socialism could not guarantee you this; you apparently poorly studied Marxist-Leninist philosophy.

                Then why the hell do you need it?
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 28 June 2020 16: 10
                  +5
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Then why the hell do you need it?

                  But what for did you need a slave system or a feudal system? Maybe it’s better to immediately turn from the primitive communal system into wild capitalism - how do you imagine all this with your advanced worldview?
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 28 June 2020 16: 23
                    -7
                    Quote: ccsr
                    how do you imagine all this with your advanced worldview

                    Well then, why?
                    1. ccsr
                      ccsr 28 June 2020 18: 25
                      +2
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Well then, why?

                      This is a dialectic of development - study Marxism, everything is spelled out there, and socialism is only an intermediate link to your dream.
                      1. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 28 June 2020 18: 41
                        0
                        Quote: ccsr
                        and socialism is only an intermediate link to your dream

                        Mine? Rather yours. That's just because communism does not shine for humanity; all this is a beautiful fairy tale.
                      2. ccsr
                        ccsr 28 June 2020 19: 16
                        +2
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That's just because communism does not shine for humanity; all this is a beautiful fairy tale.

                        Mankind has not yet matured to the understanding that it can disappear if it does not change its model of behavior. So perhaps humanity will change its mind when it comes to the edge of the abyss, although this is hard to believe.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Mine? Rather yours.
                        Isn't that what you wrote:
                        and no universal equality and happiness I don’t remember something.
                      3. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 28 June 2020 21: 15
                        +1
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Mankind has not yet matured to the understanding that it can disappear if it does not change its model of behavior.

                        The problem is that it's not about understanding, it's about biology. Humans are a biological species and they have a whole set of traits that affect their moral character. Yes, you can find a variety of people, both "bad" and "good", but humanity as a whole does not change.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Isn’t you writing

                        Wrote in response to a wish:
                        "I want to live in a just and prosperous country where there are no poor."
                        Socialism does not.
                      4. ccsr
                        ccsr 29 June 2020 12: 02
                        0
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Yes, you can find a variety of people, both "bad" and "good", but humanity as a whole does not change.

                        An absolutely wrong conclusion - that you are no different from those who lived in the cave? Even the average height has changed, and you say that it's all about the "bad" and "good".
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        "I want to live in a just and prosperous country where there are no poor."
                        Socialism does not.

                        Gives, and it is socialism, where in Soviet times, almost all the country's population was provided with everything necessary. At least I don’t remember exactly that number of homeless people and digging in garbage cans.
                      5. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 29 June 2020 19: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Even the average growth has changed, and you say it's all about the "bad" and "good."

                        If we take those who lived in caves and feed as they do now, then their children will also change their growth.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Gives, and it is socialism, where in Soviet times, almost all the country's population was provided with everything necessary.

                        The minimum necessary and now almost everyone.
                    2. Revival
                      Revival 28 June 2020 18: 42
                      -3
                      At least then that the inequalities there are an order of magnitude smaller
                      1. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 28 June 2020 18: 45
                        +3
                        Quote: Revival
                        inequalities there are an order of magnitude smaller

                        Because everything else was less.
                      2. Revival
                        Revival 28 June 2020 18: 53
                        +2
                        It’s better to have no yachts and palaces at all than on a yacht, and because of this, someone cannot feed their fill.
                        There is no pride of the country for someone to have a yacht, but there is a shame for a country where a working person cannot feed their children to the fullest
                      3. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 28 June 2020 21: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: Revival
                        and because of this, children cannot feed their fill

                        Because of this or because of yourself?
                      4. sniperino
                        sniperino 28 June 2020 23: 07
                        -1
                        Quote: Revival
                        It’s better to have no yachts and palaces at all than on a yacht, and because of this, someone cannot feed their fill.
                        Your children are swollen with hunger, and you here "alaly" breed? It would be better if they went to xkh.ru, they would find a job there, they would feed the kids ... Or are you well fed here too?
                      5. Revival
                        Revival 29 June 2020 00: 27
                        -1
                        I do not have.
                        But, unlike you, I think about others ...
                        While
                    3. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 41
                      +2
                      They wanted to experiment to create a utopian society - but the experiment failed with blood with the same blood with which it started, although the scale was smaller.
      3. Fitter65
        Fitter65 28 June 2020 11: 40
        +18
        Quote: Malyuta
        Friends, let's clearly determine without political addictions, what has the government done over the past 20 years, who has governed the country all these years

        Comrade, you need to take a little wider. And the question is longer. What did the authorities do from 1991 to 2000, and what could they correct from the tricked out thing from 2000 to 2020?
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 28 June 2020 11: 48
          -1
          Quote: Fitter65
          And the question is longer. What did the authorities do from 1991 to 2000, and what could they correct from the tricked out thing from 2000 to 2020?

          One and the same team did all this, and this period is called ebnoputinism!
          Quote: Fitter65
          you need to take a little wider. And the question is longer.

          Wider and longer than the oligarchs' yachts, 65 lards for the pandemic period, so you have to manage so.
          1. Fitter65
            Fitter65 28 June 2020 15: 07
            +7
            Quote: Malyuta
            Wider and longer than the oligarchs' yachts, 65 lards for the pandemic period, so you have to manage so.
            Now we agree that I.V. Was Stalin going in the right direction and was 1937 necessary? And everyone who had relatives abroad could not occupy leading positions. And now in our power only the holders of the passport of Mongolia and African countries are not present. That the mirror is to blame, in 1991 received all the democratic values, the main value of which has a name- IRREGULARITY !!!! And these values ​​were enshrined in the 1993 constitution. And at least someone sharpened what was guaranteed to us by the 1924 Constitution? And what did the 1936 Constitution guarantee us? According to which we lived until 1977, I remember the discussion of the "Brezhnev" constitution in the central newspapers, where every day they wrote about what the workers were proposing, and pushed the fourth article about the leading and guiding role of the party. But who discussed the 4 constitution? Besides the Borkin curators? But these oligarch officialsfatten thanks to this basic law ...
            1. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 28 June 2020 20: 31
              -1
              Quote: Fitter65
              Now we agree that I.V. Stalin walked in the right direction, and was 1937 necessary?

              In this regard, the cause of the industrial party is very revealing in 1930. And in 1937 there were many excesses.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 54
            0
            They earned these 65 billion dollars on the stock exchange from the rise and fall of blue-chip oil and other things - there trillions of dollars spin from around the world.
            1. Varyag71
              Varyag71 29 June 2020 11: 32
              -2
              How does it turn away from such lackeys, like you. Ready to justify everything.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 29 June 2020 19: 52
                +3
                And it turns me on from all squealers and whiners and sellers of every leftist.
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 28 June 2020 16: 03
          +1
          The national debt was reduced. GDP increased. State reserves have grown almost 50 times. The army was restored. And yes - they began to build roads. Are you few?
          1. Revival
            Revival 28 June 2020 18: 47
            +1
            State reserves for the elite are not cold not hot.
            “The budget will crack the people to help” that is all the “state reserves”.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 28 June 2020 20: 27
              -1
              And the ruble we just hold on? Or dollar interventions from the state reserve? Who are our favorites? Not employers providing hundreds of thousands of jobs?
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 56
              +2
              But no matter how you do it, the same social group will help 7 trillion every year, along with benefits and pension subsidies next year, another 990 billion will be added to the PFR.
              1. Revival
                Revival 28 June 2020 21: 28
                +1
                I mean help?
                At least poorly at a minimum allocate money for what should allocate?
                And here the word help, if it is an obligation
          2. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 37
            0
            Why are the people getting poorer?
      4. Alien ...
        Alien ... 28 June 2020 11: 50
        +14
        You’re not looking there. Ask Aeroflot:
        “The media learned about Aeroflot's luxury flights abroad despite the quarantine.
        The airline continued to carry passengers in June to Europedespite the international air traffic shut down due to a coronavirus pandemic, Vedomosti reported. It was possible to fly away, in particular, to New York, Paris and London."


        Read more at RBC:
        https://www.rbc.ru/business/25/06/2020/5ef423799a7947830e1560a4

        "in Frankfurt am Main, Paris, London, New York, Seoul and Tel Aviv.
        ... a weekly flight to Nice and two to Barcelona, ​​last week there were also two flights to Rome. "
      5. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 28 June 2020 12: 05
        +7
        Quote: Malyuta
        first took away the pension. accumulation, and then still increased pension age, etc. You can continue for a long time ...

        Not so simple. There is still a moratorium on indexing pensions for working retirees ... There are also:
        Since 2012, the so-called decreasing coefficient has been introduced to calculate military pensions for military pensioners and persons equated to them, “thanks to which” military pensioners have ceased to receive the full amount of military pension.

        yes
      6. lopvlad
        lopvlad 28 June 2020 12: 07
        +16
        Quote: Malyuta
        I want to live in a fair and prosperous country, where there are no poor, where there is a secured old age, where young people have prospects.


        there are poor in any country, but there were no beggars and homeless people in the USSR, unlike Western countries. When showing and talking about Western well-being to the citizens of the USSR, they forgot to explain that not everyone can afford it in the West. "by train to the big city for chocolates and doctor's sausage, but the fact that you only have money in your pocket to pay for communal services and other extortions of the capitalist system for a month. Having received vacation pay, most Russians cannot afford to take them to resorts, unlike citizens of the USSR.

        The funny thing is that what you want has never been and will not be implemented in any capitalist country, and most of all, the USSR has approached your "Wishlist".
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 28 June 2020 16: 10
          -1
          There were homeless people in the USSR, there were. True, they were exiled or imprisoned from cities over the 101st kilometer under Article 209. And about the electric trains "free" you bent, those in the scoop were not. From Kalinin to Moscow for sausage, the ride cost 2 rubles 5 kopecks, almost as much as a kilo of this sausage, the journey cost
        2. Simargl
          Simargl 28 June 2020 18: 39
          +2
          Quote: lopvlad
          here the beggars and homeless people were not in the USSR, unlike the western countries
          Oh how! Right?
          And in what period of time did they disappear? The same homeless children - did everyone live by registration directly?
          For parasitism - an article, no registration - no official work ... "pitchfork".
          Quote: lopvlad
          Showing and telling about Western well-being, citizens of the USSR forgot to explain that not everyone can afford it in the West
          It is even funnier: people from abroad were carrying goods that were much ahead of "soviet" consumer goods in quality, so it seemed to people that everything was "in chocolate" over the hill (one of the reasons).
          Quote: lopvlad
          The fact that, having received vacation pay, the majority of Russians cannot afford to go to the resorts in them, unlike the citizens of the USSR.
          I know those who every year on the World Cup chased the coast, and who could never afford it. It was different.
          Now it’s worse, but very many can afford a few days. For example, I spent 20 thousand rubles for 10 days, and 200 thousand rubles per month (+ road, but I’m far away, for two).
          As then, and now, most of the World Cups have not seen, but then much more was available!
          Now for two salaries you can fly abroad for 10 days, and then? How many minimum salaries were needed for a similar rest at the World Cup?
      7. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 17
        -3
        Quote: Malyuta
        Now, unfortunately, I don’t see anything of this!

        Poor thing. The garbage can, in which he was digging, was crushed?
        Rate your property at American prices. Just do not compare the plywood-foam hut, covered with beautiful paper, and a stone house with a stone house, the land of a summer house at the price of the land of a suburb of New York.
        1. tracer
          tracer 28 June 2020 12: 52
          -9
          Have you ever been under this New York at least once? Did you see everything yourself? Watched the prices? And the new town houses on the water across the Hudson Bay? Is it a stone house in America? A specialist in the Americas ..
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 13: 00
            +9
            Foam plywood? Without heating? Yes, even if they are at least 200 square meters in gilded paper and a synthetic winter bow on top - it’s the hut.
            And a stone house, on a plot of 10 acres, within the city, with gas, water and optical Internet - will Sykoko pull in the USA? 20 million in dollars?
            1. tracer
              tracer 28 June 2020 13: 20
              -9
              And why are you attached to the dollar? Do you get a salary in dollars? Taxes too? It depends on which city and area. But good houses in good areas are very expensive like everywhere else.
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 16: 11
                +3
                Quote: tracer
                Do you get a salary in dollars? Taxes too?

                And in what currency do you measure our poverty. Smelt in the mounds?
                As far as I understand, $ 1000 sounds to you like news from aliens. So alien that the news that the Japanese homeless pays $ 0,8 x 3 m 1000 dollars per month for a closet testifies to the unprecedented luxury that the Japanese homeless can afford. Although in Russia $ 1000 a month is the rent for a six-room two-level apartment.
                1. tracer
                  tracer 28 June 2020 16: 46
                  0
                  I am well off by overseas standards, and only then yours all the more. But this is the product of my efforts and work with study.
                  1. Timeout
                    Timeout 1 July 2020 08: 42
                    0
                    Quote: tracer
                    I am well off by overseas standards, and only then yours all the more.

                    Is it rutabaga or something? So it is not accessible to everyone in Russia.
                    Quote: tracer
                    But this is the product of my efforts and work with study.

                    Studying at the ballet academy, which is in St. Petersburg, or working as a whistle at VO?
      8. Gardamir
        Gardamir 28 June 2020 16: 27
        -2
        For example, I remember
        I add, despite the fact that the people declared patriotism of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation continues to be invested in American securities. Well, do not invest in building schools
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 June 2020 21: 08
          -1
          And how many of these investments there are in US US securities - 6,5 billion compared with investments of China and Japan over 1 trillion dollars, our investments are generally nothing. And in Russia every day they put into operation a dozen kindergartens and schools, new and renovated, and yes the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not deal with them - not in their jurisdiction.
    3. Clear
      Clear 28 June 2020 11: 04
      +11
      A handful of countries use the lion's share of these resources.
      There’s not even a bunch No. . It turns out that the U.S. population is five percent the world's population, and they use 40% of Earth’s resources.
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      2. WIKI
        WIKI 28 June 2020 18: 29
        0
        "According to UN estimates, the material intensity of Russia's GDP is 40% higher than the world average, 4,2-4,5 times higher than
        in the USA and Germany, 7,6 times higher
        than in Japan, but 3 times lower than
        in China."
        1. Clear
          Clear 28 June 2020 18: 43
          +2
          Quote: WIKI
          "According to UN estimates, the material intensity of Russia's GDP is 40% higher than the world average, 4,2-4,5 times higher than
          in the USA and Germany, 7,6 times higher
          than in Japan, but 3 times lower than
          in China."

          Victor, can I refer to the UN materials?
          A scientific article by A. Bashmakov, two years ago, I have already watched.
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          2. WIKI
            WIKI 28 June 2020 19: 38
            -2
            Do you think that something has changed in two years? What do you mean by "using 40% of the Earth's resources"? For example, ExxonMobil has a stake in 21 refineries in 14 countries with a total capacity of 4,7 million barrels per day. Five of them are in the US (2 in Texas, one each in Illinois, Louisiana and Montana), 3 in Canada, 8 in Europe (2 in France, as well as Belgium, UK, Netherlands, Italy, Norway, and Germany), 5 in Asia (Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, Australia and China). They do, yes. But hardly all products are consumed within the United States. This is for 2016:
        2. SVD68
          SVD68 28 June 2020 20: 30
          +1
          Quote: WIKI
          material consumption of Russia's GDP is 40% higher than the world average, 4,2-4,5 times higher than
          in the USA and Germany, 7,6 times higher

          Here we must look at the structure of GDP. For example, banking and lawyer services or copyrights are much less material-intensive than the production of goods or capital construction.
      3. zenion
        zenion 29 June 2020 13: 13
        -1
        The Americans do not have the constitutional right of the wedding night for the president, but in the Russian constitution, as amended, they will!
    4. Finches
      Finches 28 June 2020 11: 04
      -7
      Dear Colleagues! I must admit that I, in violation of my principles, did not go to the polls, but this is not an election either. Subjected his previously expressed thoughts to criticism and rethinking (not particularly strongly) - he went down voted for amendments to the Constitution! There are sensible and stupid corrections in my opinion, but I decided to be consistent in one thing - let the GDP rule more - I like the way the liberals are guilty, the Anglo-Saxons are guilty abroad ... Let the country governs the country better than what we get to -Never be a new democratically minded creative comrade up to the flag of the LGBT community under the state banner on the dome of the Grand Kremlin Palace!

      P.S. However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ... laughing
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 28 June 2020 11: 18
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ...

        And they forced her to be a wife, patamushta, she is a state employee and bring household members with her.
        Quote: Finches
        let the GDP still rule - I like the way that our liberals are contorted, how the Anglo-Saxons are controversial abroad ... It’s better that the GDP governs the country than we get to with some new democratically minded creative comrade

        With such shabby theses, you need to give up your pension and go to work on litter-tv, they pay well and feed well. hi
        1. Finches
          Finches 28 June 2020 11: 22
          +2
          I, somehow, without your "wise" advice will figure out where I need to go! I am very saddened by the fact that my positive assessment of Putin's activities as the Russian state and my desire not to change him - because this is not necessary from the word at all, you don’t like it! Sorry!
          And I receive my pension not because "for" or "against", but because "captain's stars I served in full! Aty-bats! " hi
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 28 June 2020 11: 51
            +4
            Quote: Finches
            that my positive assessment of Putin’s activities as a Russian state and my desire not to change him

            question! Next year he will not be, what will you do? Entrust your fate to the winds of surprise?
            1. lopvlad
              lopvlad 28 June 2020 12: 51
              -5
              Quote: Silvestr
              Next year he will not be, what will you do?


              what will you do? will you blaspheme and stigmatize?
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 44
                -1
                We will stigmatize the other, if there is any reason.
            2. snake
              snake 28 June 2020 13: 36
              0
              Quote: Silvestr
              question! Next year he will not be, what will you do?

              Indeed, the question is interesting. If the mighty Shogun is taken away by the spirits of their ancestors, then what will the samurai do? Will they use the Bushido code or become ronin ..?
              1. lopvlad
                lopvlad 29 June 2020 16: 32
                +3
                Quote: serpent
                If the mighty Shogun is taken away by the spirits of their ancestors, then what will the samurai do


                need not worry about the samurai and the enemies and opponents of the Shogun. Remember the power of the United States in the late 80s and early 90s and compare their modern power?. When there is no enemy, the remaining army becomes drunk and degrades into dust.
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 28 June 2020 11: 32
          +4
          are you fundamentally going to be rude to everyone who disagrees with you or is it just such an upbringing?
        3. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
          tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 28 June 2020 12: 00
          +2
          Wow! This I understand - the poverty of the spirit in all its glory! And the abomination of desolation (c) ... thoughts.
      2. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 11: 21
        +15
        Eugene hi my compliments colleague! You know forever, or almost always in solidarity with you, but not this time. I'm not sure that the Anglo-Saxons are so distressed by Putin, rather they show us this and we want to. But, in my opinion, the Anglo-Saxons and so perfectly drink blood and resources from Russia. If you look at who, besides Russia, is the owner of Rosneft, Gazprom and others? And then there is Shell and some sort of "Tempikopetroleum" and many others. Hence the question, who is the national property of Gazprom, of which people? Is it really Russian?
        1. Finches
          Finches 28 June 2020 11: 25
          0
          hi Alexei! You see what the matter is - I wrote many times and am absolutely sure that changing the GDP for at least anyone, even for Jesus Christ will not lead to anything - that’s the thing! These are silly illusions ... I believe that the best is the enemy of the good! That's all! This is my life experience and understanding of the situation. Rearrangement of chairs in the office does not solve anything ...!
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 11: 34
            +8
            And here it is completely in solidarity! I am a man who lived both in the USSR and in the Russian Federation, I understand perfectly well that changing Putin to anyone with the existing system will not lead to anything good. Putin is just an embodiment of the existing world order of the Russian Federation. So he is not the worst option. Another thing is that the top of the USSR rotted in 70 years, and the top of the Russian Federation was born already rotten. However, the rotten top of the USSR, this is the current top of the Russian Federation. That is sad!
            1. Finches
              Finches 28 June 2020 11: 35
              +2
              That's right!
          2. Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 36
            -3
            Quote: Finches
            I have written many times and am absolutely sure that changing the GDP for at least anyone, at least for Jesus Christ, will not lead to anything

            You are mistaken. The psyche of the leader is a very important component of the country's prosperity. This is the USSR Gorbachev, and Russia of the 90s, and Zimbabwe, and the Baltic states. Now here is the USA. Changing the leader to a dull, stubborn promoter of his ideas often leads to the collapse of the economy.
            So let it be Putin. Which has nothing to prove in this life. In Haiti, he became a god, after the earthquake, his photographs were prayed for the salvation of his relatives, in Germany banners were hung in front of the Bundestag - "Putin, save Germany!", In Syria, his photos are glued to machine guns by Assad's soldiers. Evo's influence on the World is enormous. The Times even excluded him from the "Person of the Year" rating for many years. Only the second is now on the cover of the Man of the Year. fellow
            1. Dr. Frankenstucker
              Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 12: 57
              +2
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              in Germany, banners were hung in front of the Bundestag - "Putin, save Germany!", in Syria, his pictures are glued to machine guns by Assad's soldiers. Evo's influence on the World is enormous.

              And what about us evo fans there?
              1. tracer
                tracer 28 June 2020 13: 05
                -12
                Go to Syria there clearly explain to you. I’m afraid after that you will fill the tatuha with his portrait.
                1. Dr. Frankenstucker
                  Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 13: 27
                  +9
                  Quote: tracer
                  Go to Syria there clearly explain to you. I’m afraid after that you will fill the tatuha with his portrait.

                  I guess it doesn’t threaten me.
                  Have you had any experience?)
                  "And on the left chest is the profile of Putin,
                  And on the right ... "

                  And what, by the way, on the right? Assad or Olga Buzova?
                  ))
                  1. tracer
                    tracer 28 June 2020 14: 26
                    -13
                    Helicopter parachute and brigade. Got it? So under the bench ... yap.
                    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
                      Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 14: 37
                      +8
                      Quote: tracer
                      So under the bench ... yap.

                      Well, well, let's go without foam. The question was rhetorical. I, in fact, do not care what you painted your epidermis there.
                      1. Varyag71
                        Varyag71 29 June 2020 12: 29
                        -3
                        Yes, and he did not pass the service. it looks like he outplayed the call of duty.
                      2. Timeout
                        Timeout 1 July 2020 08: 46
                        -1
                        Quote: Varyag71
                        Yes, and he did not pass the service.

                        This character is still a fighter ... The most is not a real bread-sniper.
              2. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 15: 42
                -2
                Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
                But what about evo fans there?

                Well, as Bee hints - filler for torture - believes Putin will protect. The executioners are furious with Putin because of the restriction of their rights.
                Once. from a year ago, I mentioned Guantanamo. The opponent replied: Well, I was in Guantanamo, and so what?
                Tea, French Samopal, also visited the torture chamber? With the most pleasant memories? In Europe, in bulk. Some are pierced, released alive. For which the ECHR ruthlessly fines.
                1. Dr. Frankenstucker
                  Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 15: 46
                  +2
                  Quote: Oo sarcasm
                  Well, I was in Guantanamo, so what?

                  as whom?
                  1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                    Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 16: 23
                    +3
                    Well, obviously not the one who is dipped in the bucket with urine. Otherwise, I would not have boasted ...
            2. Oleg Skvortsov
              Oleg Skvortsov 28 June 2020 13: 55
              +4
              Sarcasmies. just say - I'm a Putinist, let him rule forever (again, there is enough room for two in the mausoleum), I collect postcards and newspaper clippings with his profile. laughing
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi
                Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 15: 59
                -6
                Quote: Oleg Skvortsov
                just say - I'm a Putinist,

                Well, you can say about you that you are a morphist. More precisely, the militant of the Irish mafia, for persecute the interests of the Iranian-American mafia in Russia. The same mafia, which appoints from among its own the vice-chairmen of the USA - small farmers, actors, drunkards - controlling the Democratic Republican Party.
                Just imagine, from the day the US was founded, relatives became presidents. To Kennedy - Anglo-Saxon roots. From Johnson to Obama - Irish.
                And my beliefs - I always vote for the most impassable candidate. Bryntsalov there, Belykh. Remember those?
        2. lopvlad
          lopvlad 28 June 2020 12: 55
          -4
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          If you look at who, besides Russia, is the owner of Rosneft, Gazprom and others? And then there is Shell and some sort of "Tempikopetroleum" and many others.


          Do you naively believe and believe that if you have a few percent, for example, Intel shares, then you are its owner?
      3. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 11: 22
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        P.S. However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ..

        Bravo! The henpecked Putriot is the pillar of the new Russia! laughing
        1. Finches
          Finches 28 June 2020 11: 26
          -8
          Such is the bum! Or, as they say, life dictates to us its harsh laws ... laughing
          1. Dr. Frankenstucker
            Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 11: 29
            +5
            Life does not dictate a damn thing - it only offers circumstances.
            1. Finches
              Finches 28 June 2020 11: 32
              +3
              This is Ostap Bender's phrase from "12 chairs" ... laughing hi
        2. Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 38
          +4
          Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
          Bravo! The henpecked Putriot is a pillar of the new Russia

          Well, "Biden's Slave" - ​​sounds proudly for you !!!
          1. tracer
            tracer 28 June 2020 13: 09
            -10
            "Well, take a look, Klim Chugunkin." "And there is nothing to believe." It's right about him. Everyone knows the author of the quotes. Although this "Abyrvalg" may not know.
        3. snake
          snake 28 June 2020 13: 46
          +1
          Quote: Dr. Frankenstucker
          Bravo! The henpecked Putriot is the pillar of the new Russia!

          A real man, cho already there ... But not some LGBT!
      4. tatra
        tatra 28 June 2020 11: 23
        +5
        Herein lies the essence of the enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR — you are ready to be FOR anyone and anything, in order to be AGAINST something or someone. And this hysteria about the amendments was not so much FOR them as AGAINST those who are against the amendments.
        1. Finches
          Finches 28 June 2020 11: 27
          -9
          Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik! But you still don’t understand this ... laughing
          1. tatra
            tatra 28 June 2020 11: 29
            -1
            Ha, well then explain - what are the Bolsheviks and the Communists radically different from?
            1. Finches
              Finches 28 June 2020 11: 40
              -2
              There is such a joke - The Bolsheviks — those who saw Ilyich alive, and the Communists — those who saw him in the grave. This is a certain kind of metaphor in which the meaning of the differences between the modern Communists, who are not Communists at all, but opportunists, and the Bolsheviks, is clear! hi
              1. tatra
                tatra 28 June 2020 11: 50
                +4
                The real, by convictions, Bolshevik communists and their supporters are those who are in favor of living in one big country, for Soviet power, socialism, a planned economy, and they never "saw", did not betray their party, the USSR and each other .
            2. Far B
              Far B 28 June 2020 11: 40
              -3
              Will not work. There are many who declare themselves Bolsheviks, not realizing that it was possible to be a Bolshevik at the beginning of the last century. Now either you are a communist or not (take the "leftist" for yourself)
            3. Dr. Frankenstucker
              Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 12: 59
              +3
              Quote: tatra
              How do the Bolsheviks radically differ from the Communists?


              laughing a question worthy of the Vasilyev brothers)
          2. Malyuta
            Malyuta 28 June 2020 11: 43
            0
            Quote: Finches
            Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik!

            "Zaputinsky Bolshevik" is remarkably funny and we will assign this "honorary title" to you. laughing
            Threat. I am very sorry hi , but I can’t understand how love for Stalin and Putin can fit in the same person at the same time? belay
            Can you imagine a hypothetical situation that in November 2020 the Bolsheviks will come to power in the country and what will they do with Mr Putin?
            1. Finches
              Finches 28 June 2020 11: 51
              -4
              If the Bolsheviks come to power, then you and I will not leave the answer ... laughing
              And I respect Putin! Whether you like it or not, I am absolutely not interested in it, and I do not see any contradictions in respecting Stalin and respecting Putin .... I try, unlike you, to be objective in evaluating their actions as head of the state - and you don’t like Putin, because, apparently, it’s so fashionable, because there are no other objective reasons! hi
            2. Parabelum
              Parabelum 28 June 2020 14: 12
              +2
              "Who are "we? Speak for themselves. Or someone - that has given you the right to speak for the people? It seems no one to speak for themselves.
          3. New Year day
            New Year day 28 June 2020 11: 52
            +11
            Quote: Finches
            I’m not a communist, I’m a Bolshevik!

            some dissonance! The Bolshevik stands for the capitalist. Decide
            1. Finches
              Finches 28 June 2020 15: 20
              +1
              Where do I stand for capitalism ?? Or, do you think that if I am not for the renegade Zyuganov, the red oligarch Grudinin and the clown Platoshkin, then I mean I'm for capitalism? I always wrote here specifically, and today I emphasized once again that since today a change of political leadership in the Kremlin will not lead to a change in the political and economic formation in the country as a whole, I see no reason to change the head of state that suits me personally in everything! hi
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 53
                -1
                How everything in your brain mixed up.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 28 June 2020 19: 58
                  +5
                  This is my principled position due to life experience and the wealth of knowledge that exists ... as well as yours! So if you have something to say essentially, then write, and if not, then I don’t see the point in spending time on just phrases!
              2. New Year day
                New Year day 28 June 2020 22: 02
                -2
                Quote: Finches
                Where do I stand for capitalism?

                you support the capitalist Putin, isn’t that enough?
                Quote: Finches
                since today the change of political leadership in the Kremlin will not lead to a change in the political and economic formation in the country as a whole

                the fact is that the change will happen anyway, although purely for physical reasons. And now the GDP is trying to preserve its inheritance. In any case, a new broom sweeps in a new way. Just what will these years cost you, me, our children?
          4. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 28 June 2020 12: 11
            +5
            Quote: Finches
            Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik! But you still don’t understand this ...

            What are you saying? What a complicated nature you have! fellow
            You are not a Bolshevik. You are from the majority, as here:
            1. Finches
              Finches 28 June 2020 15: 22
              -3
              Right! The Bolsheviks - this is the majority, but you are a Menshevik or a Trotskyist, and so and so will not lead to better lives, but to the next political and economic crisis!
          5. Oyo Sarkazmi
            Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 40
            -3
            Quote: Finches
            Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik!

            And I am an anarchist. But I really appreciate the comfort. Therefore, he went - and voted FOR.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 28 June 2020 13: 29
              +4
              Immediately I remember about "..that will get both war and shame."
          6. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 28 June 2020 13: 25
            -1
            You are not a Bolshevik. You are an ordinary petty-bourgeois layman. Apologist for capitalism.
            1. Finches
              Finches 28 June 2020 15: 15
              +1
              What I like is instant and categorical labeling! And he is in all white ... laughing
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 28 June 2020 17: 33
                -3
                Well, I'm sorry if you croak like a petty bourgeoisie, you look like a petty bourgeoisie you behave like a petty bourgeoisie. That probably you are. By the way, you hung a label on yourself.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 28 June 2020 18: 13
                  +4
                  And courtesy, just not your hobby .... laughing You will poke your wife, if you have it of course ...
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 28 June 2020 19: 38
                    -7
                    Why am I supposed to be polite with such a short-sighted demagogue? To begin with, try a little less then and talk for politeness.
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 28 June 2020 19: 45
                      +3
                      Good luck, distant and highly cultured IS-80_RVGK2! Before that, I did not write anything worthwhile and now it doesn’t really work out in the discussion, but do not despair - everything will happen for you - you will grow up! laughing hi
          7. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 28 June 2020 20: 45
            -2
            Quote: Finches
            Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik! But you still don’t understand this ...

            What do you mean by the word Bolshevik?
        2. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 11: 47
          -1
          Quote: tatra
          you are ready to be FOR anyone and anything, in order to be AGAINST something or someone. And this hysteria about the amendments was not so much FOR them as AGAINST those who are against the amendments.


          This is a masterpiece! What a phenomenal specimen of thought!
          1. tracer
            tracer 28 June 2020 13: 14
            -1
            I remembered the incorruptible. "And today is tomorrow" ... V. Klitschko.
            1. Dr. Frankenstucker
              Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 13: 33
              0
              Quote: tracer
              I remembered the incorruptible. "And today is tomorrow" ... V. Klitschko.

              quite right)
      5. a.hamster55
        a.hamster55 28 June 2020 11: 38
        -4
        We went to vote but the choice is different. By the way, it’s convenient that they were spread in time.
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 56
          +1
          A strange picture, against Putin or something, because Putin calls himself a liberal.
      6. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 28 June 2020 12: 07
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        but I decided to be consistent in one thing - even if the GDP rules more - I like the way the liberals are contemptible, the Anglo-Saxons are controversial abroad ... Let the GDP governs the country better,

        Who would doubt that... laughing
        1. Finches
          Finches 28 June 2020 15: 13
          0
          And no doubt! You have your own point of view, I have my own - and this does not mean that they are both true! laughing But my advantage is that I live in an objective reality today, and you are trying to live in a world of illusions tomorrow ... I personally already went through this in 1991!
      7. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 28 June 2020 12: 18
        +17
        Quote: Finches
        mouth is better gdp governs the country than we get to with some new democratically minded creative comrade

        That's where I heard something similar. Oh, I remembered. Vote, otherwise you will lose. After all, if you do not put, ugh you, if not Yeltsin, then who? If not him, then the evil liberal will come, pah, commies, and will destroy Russia, the mother, beginning to flourish. And he, for a new term, with renewed vigor, uh, we all at once in bulk.
        A quarter century has passed. Flushing technology has not changed. How did they sing alice with basilio? Someone who doesn’t need a knife, you will show him a penny and .... The main thing is to explain to the sparrow sitting in the dung cake that he was not in the waste at all, but in a thick layer of chocolate.
        1. Clear
          Clear 28 June 2020 12: 58
          -1
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          The main thing is to explain to the sparrow sitting in the dung cake that he was not in the waste at all, but in a thick layer of chocolate.

          I must admit you get it often.
        2. Finches
          Finches 28 June 2020 15: 10
          -4
          Lannanne Shee, do you think something smart was said? Oh well! laughing
      8. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 28 June 2020 16: 12
        -6
        You have a reasonable spouse. Well done!
        1. Finches
          Finches 28 June 2020 16: 37
          +1
          Thank you!
      9. Gardamir
        Gardamir 28 June 2020 16: 44
        +2
        flag of the LGBT community
        it was under Putin recently
        LGBT activist Igor Kochetkov reports that the Federal Tax Service of Russia has recognized his marriage to a man
        are you for it?
        1. Finches
          Finches 28 June 2020 16: 58
          0
          Do the words of LGBT activist Igor Kochetkov seem to carry weight for you? It happens ... Just do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs! Be against Putin and that's all ... Only for whom are you "for", it is very difficult to understand! However, in Russian history, a certain part, especially a part of the intelligentsia, has always been against the official government and not because it did not agree or something else, but because it is such a nature!
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 June 2020 21: 19
          +2
          And I report that Roscosmos recognized the existence of Nibiru - do you believe any garbage in the media?
      10. WIKI
        WIKI 28 June 2020 18: 47
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ...

        Something does not fit in with your love for Stalin, who did not spare his son, for the sake of his ideological convictions. Ava change them at the request of his wife. I wouldn’t go into reconnaissance with you.
        1. Finches
          Finches 28 June 2020 18: 56
          +4
          There is also another side of the coin - would I go with you to scout! laughing In addition, you are still not attentive to what is written - because of this, you yourself will fail and let others down under the monastery!
      11. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 41
        0
        I really like the way the liberals are frowning, the Anglo-Saxons fussing abroad ..

        So in spite of the Anglo-Saxons frostbite ears?
      12. Simargl
        Simargl 29 June 2020 08: 14
        -1
        Quote: Finches
        There are sensible and stupid corrections in my opinion,
        Explanatory - which ones? I just haven’t seen such ones. Maybe blind. Please indicate!
    5. snake
      snake 28 June 2020 13: 15
      +8
      We divided into those who are against Western influence and want to live in an independent country, and those who are for the West. Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents.

      Nothing like that. This is Staver, maybe he thinks so dichotomously, well, that's his business. If you argue objectively, you get not two categories (for the West and for our country), but rather.
      For the West; For the Motherland; For Putin; Against Putin, but for the homeland; For the Motherland without Putin, etc.
      For whom does the author keep readers? To reduce such a concept as "how many people - so many opinions" to "who is not with us is against us" is propaganda of the lowest level. Although ... after the next phrase it becomes clear xy from xy:
      It's expensive to watch our political shows.

      Who loves to watch the hysterical and heart-rending "experts" on the "political show" like 60 minutes, Time will tell or an Evening with evening Solovyov? Perhaps those who divide the world into black and white. Ours and not ours.
      PS The West is bad ... Good. But when raising the retirement age, the propagandists on the contrary cited the West as an example ...
    6. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 28 June 2020 14: 28
      -5
      I also voted for them.
    7. Arkon
      Arkon 28 June 2020 15: 55
      -2
      Quote: ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
      I voted for amendments to the Constitution.
      Reply


      good And I.
    8. Megatron
      Megatron 28 June 2020 15: 56
      +7
      What a disgusting little article, apparently paid.
      Benches behind garages with trash cans, is this clowning called "voting"?
      In the USSR, everything was for people, and not for a handful of friends and bureaucrats. That's all.
    9. Normal ok
      Normal ok 28 June 2020 19: 34
      -1
      Quote: ANDREI MIKHAILOV_2
      I voted for amendments to the Constitution.

      Well then what? Now do not complain about what will happen next. It’s my fault.
    10. zenion
      zenion 28 June 2020 21: 38
      -3
      Nothing wrong. In one country, many voted for Hitler. Even for the war and the extermination of others, not Aryans. You were not scared by what the president wanted to do in the USSR, and didn’t understand how? The expansion of living space, the sound of shoe heels, the clang of tracks and a beautiful cross for several months. Then they screamed - they deceived us! You need to think not in the gang, as one marshal said in one of the series.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 29 June 2020 16: 47
        -1
        Quote: zenion
        in one country, many voted for Hitler.

        I wonder what kind of dog business do the corrupt runners have here, changing their conscience to sausage? request
    11. Vend
      Vend 29 June 2020 10: 21
      +1
      Quote: ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
      Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents.
      I also have trouble voting FOR. The author of the article
      Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents.
      that’s very true. And no cons on the VO website can change the simple truth,
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    1. Pytnik
      Pytnik 28 June 2020 10: 21
      -1
      Yes, the campaign is not the author, but you sold
      1. Mastrer
        Mastrer 28 June 2020 10: 23
        +13
        Why such a conclusion? The West always did not care about all the laws of the Russian Federation, including the constitution. And they never stopped them or embarrassed in the implementation of a variety of things.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 28 June 2020 10: 33
          -6
          Quote: Mastrer
          The West always did not care about all the laws of the Russian Federation, including the constitution.

          Do you really believe that? laughing

          "... Lawyers and jurists from all kinds of NGOs were in a hurry to provide" free "assistance. The USAID website still contains information about the amounts allocated for the reforms in the Russian Federation, and, in particular, for the legal preparation of the new Constitution ... "https://zen.yandex.ru/media/24history/pochemu-konstituciiu-rossii-napisali-amerikancy-5d418e38182b5800acf87fac
          1. Mastrer
            Mastrer 28 June 2020 10: 35
            +6
            This is not a matter of faith. This is a damn fact. A fact confirmed by centuries of history. Irrefutable and indisputable, how not to rewrite history and how not to propagate the opposite - it is impossible to change.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 28 June 2020 10: 43
              -10
              Quote: Mastrer
              This is a damn fact.

              You know what this medal is:


              Do you really think that they, having defeated us in the Cold War, will let everything go by itself? laughing
              1. Far B
                Far B 28 June 2020 10: 57
                +6
                Have you, like Misha the Sword, been awarded you too? Well, I never doubted.
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 28 June 2020 11: 00
                  -1
                  Quote: Dalny V
                  Have you, like Misha the Sword, been awarded you too?

                  Why do you think so? laughing
              2. New Year day
                New Year day 28 June 2020 11: 56
                +9
                Quote: Boris55
                Do you really think that they, having defeated us in the Cold War, will let everything go by itself?

                do not carry nonsense! Where have your deputies and Medvedev and Sechin and others set up alternate aerodromes?

                For them, everything has already ended long ago, and to you - about the war. Calm down! Without any war, world capitalism will decide everything through trade and supply.

          2. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 28 June 2020 10: 39
            +19
            Bring me, Boris, at least one case in the history of modern Russia when we, relying on the Constitution, sent someone nah .. And predicting the answer that now we will send everyone, refer to the norm and guess the situation when now we will send it to the "new" Constitution.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 28 June 2020 10: 53
              -23
              Hey. The current amendments are only the first step. In order to "send", the "Law on the Constitutional Assembly" is needed. Only a constitutional assembly is capable of rewriting Ch. 1, 2 and 9.i.e. make an evolutionary transition from one social system to another. It will not be capitalism or Brezhnev's socialism with a human face. This will be closer to Stalin's socialism, who built relationships in society before Christian Russia on new realities ...

              Regarding the impact of the Constitution on our lives. I hope you lived under the Brezhnev Constitution and you are able to appreciate our life with this and that.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 28 June 2020 11: 58
                +7
                Quote: Boris55
                The current amendments are only the first step.

                to absolute power for the next presidents! Or will each next write its own constitution?
              2. Dr. Frankenstucker
                Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 12: 04
                +8
                Quote: Boris55
                This will be closer to Stalin's socialism, which built relationships in society before Christian Rus on new realities ...


                laughing This nonsense already borders on religious fanaticism. Can you tell us more about paganism "in new realities"? Will there be ritual sacrifices on the Red Square?
              3. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 28 June 2020 13: 34
                +6
                Quote: Boris55
                The current amendments are only the first step.

                This is ridiculous. With such an overwhelming number of patriots in 20 years, the first step.
                Quote: Boris55
                those. make an evolutionary transition from one social system to another.

                Lies from the first to the last word. These amendments are just trying to preserve the current state of the country that suits the power of big capital.
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 29 June 2020 08: 21
                  -2
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Lies from the first to the last word.
                  This is not a lie, but the dreams of an ignorant. I put on pink glasses with blinkers and how let's dream right and left!
                  I could not write a comment - either mate, or neighing to tears ...
          3. Far B
            Far B 28 June 2020 10: 44
            +12
            Borya, less pathos. Amendments are made for the nullify, not the new Constitution of the recipient.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 28 June 2020 10: 56
              -25
              Quote: Dalny V
              Amend for nullify

              Do you remember who brought them in?

              Personally, I want Putin to rule forever.

              Tell me, when you have a toothache, what doctor will you go to an old experienced or a young one without experience? Surely you would prefer an experienced one, so why when a health issue concerns an entire country, you prefer an unknown person instead of an experienced one?
              1. Far B
                Far B 28 June 2020 11: 03
                +2
                God forbid, such a dentist, Boris) it overpowered here, it’s gone, it’s kind of, but it’s in my face: it can’t be, it’s in conservation, it’s in the bunker ... But I have a toothache, I know, the economy is falling. .
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 28 June 2020 11: 12
                  -13
                  Quote: Dalny V
                  God forbid such a clove,

                  We can evaluate leaders at this level by how our lives have changed, taking into account internal and external factors. Do you remember which country he adopted? Is it better or worse? You have seen this picture for a long time:



                  1. Far B
                    Far B 28 June 2020 11: 16
                    +5
                    20 years old, Boris, 20 years old. Have your hair become longer or shorter in 20 years?
                    1. Boris55
                      Boris55 28 June 2020 11: 21
                      -5
                      Quote: Dalny V
                      20 years old, Boris, 20 years old. Have your hair become longer or shorter in 20 years?

                      It is useless to bring in new furniture.

                      The tasks that have been solved to date:
                      - did not let the country collapse:
                      - filled the budget with money;
                      - provided food security;
                      - defended the country from external enemies.

                      The rewriting of the constitution, i.e. protection of the state from internal enemies.

                      All these points are made in order and it is not possible to rearrange them.
                      1. Far B
                        Far B 28 June 2020 11: 25
                        +3
                        And now a list of tasks that have not been solved. And then somehow it died, five pieces, one in four years. For such a super-seeder, agree ...
                      2. Boris55
                        Boris55 28 June 2020 11: 26
                        -4
                        Quote: Dalny V
                        And now a list of tasks that have not been solved.

                        Our dreams will always be ahead of our capabilities and that’s right, but don’t need to ruin the country for lace panties.

                        ps
                        Only by setting unattainable goals can one achieve something.
                      3. Far B
                        Far B 28 June 2020 11: 49
                        +5
                        Borya, how much was the White Sea Canal built? What about Baikonur?
                      4. Boris55
                        Boris55 28 June 2020 11: 52
                        -7
                        Quote: Dalny V
                        Borya, how much was the White Sea Canal built? What about Baikonur?

                        Do you still remember what power was then?

                        In the meantime, the Constitution of Article 15 Clause 4:
                        "... If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty are applied."

                        By the way. A return to the "holy" 90s, if you do not change Ch. 1,2 and 9 of the current Constitution is quite real.
                      5. Far B
                        Far B 28 June 2020 12: 00
                        +8
                        Borya, were you born in the sandbox?
                        if by international agreement
                        that is, the parties agree. Now the Constitution prohibits doing this?
                      6. Boris55
                        Boris55 28 June 2020 12: 04
                        -10
                        Quote: Dalny V
                        Is the Constitution forbidden to do this now?

                        No it is not forbidden. Ratification of treaties is the Duma. To whom she serves, the picture below illustrates very well:



                        The amendments proposed by Putin radically change the composition of the Duma. Hence the amendment EP (Teteshkova) on zeroing, but to leave everything as it is.
                        The next Duma will be more about the Russian than this one - pro-Western, accepting and ratifying treaties in favor of the West and which we are then obligated to fulfill.
                      7. Far B
                        Far B 28 June 2020 12: 19
                        +4
                        Let's go over the thought again? The way its creator, Borya
                      8. Boris55
                        Boris55 28 June 2020 12: 21
                        -5
                        Quote: Dalny V
                        The way its creator, Borya

                        Putin in the adoption of the 1993 Constitution, on the basis of which the Duma is elected, did not take any part, from the word at all.
                      9. Far B
                        Far B 28 June 2020 12: 33
                        +7
                        Putin is both the creator and father of edra. I can copy our dispute six months ago, otherwise I can prove it lazily again. Do you mind
                      10. Nosgoth
                        Nosgoth 28 June 2020 19: 00
                        -2
                        What a stubborn librarian you are. Everything is straightforward according to the manual, "achievements - not to see and belittle, failures - to stick out and lie a little everywhere." Everyone is mistaken, including your beloved west.
                        For any sane person, it is clear that there are positive changes. Yes, we didn’t live happily ever after on Mars, but we don’t live on coupons as we did under EBN with external control. And this is better than the consequences of any color revolutions. Even the UWB are now bursting at the seams because of their "democracy". Or do you want a civil war? Are you sure that you and your relatives will survive after it?
                      11. Far B
                        Far B 28 June 2020 12: 59
                        +9
                        In 2008-2012, Putin, suddenly, was the head of EdRa.
                      12. tracer
                        tracer 28 June 2020 13: 37
                        -8
                        And so what? I will "suddenly" reveal something else for you. Well, understandable to you and the same level. You panties once peeped and the rest. And so what?
                      13. Far B
                        Far B 28 June 2020 21: 34
                        +1
                        Are you worried about my "pee" pants? Want to talk about them? Well, it's not for me. Coprophilia is the other way.
                      14. Varyag71
                        Varyag71 29 June 2020 12: 43
                        -3
                        Quite bored patriots. Already such a heresy is carried out that graduates of the exam seem to be academicians.
                      15. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 28 June 2020 17: 04
                        +4
                        did not let the country collapse:
                        as with gifts from Norway, China, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan? ..
                        filled the budget with money
                        Are you talking about money?
                        provided food security;
                        eat palm oil yourself.
                        defended the country from external enemies
                        Is this humor?
                  2. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 28 June 2020 13: 38
                    +2
                    Initially, the adherents of liberal capitalism, which include Putin, drove the country to the very bottom of the abyss. And then they gave her a little rise from the bottom and now they put it on their greatest merit. Not well done. Buy a goat sell a goat ..
                  3. Gardamir
                    Gardamir 28 June 2020 16: 55
                    +3
                    Do you remember which country he adopted?
                    This is so naive! Why did Putin set up the monuments to Yeltsin? For the fact that Yeltsin prepared all this for Putin.
                    First, the country was dunked in shit. and then a little lifting graciously allowed to breathe.
              2. Dr. Frankenstucker
                Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 11: 27
                +9
                Quote: Boris55
                Tell me, when you have a toothache, what doctor will you go to an old experienced or a young one without experience?

                what an enchantingly stupid analogy. But if you really follow it, then an "experienced" doctor, who cannot be retired in any way, sanitizes your oral cavity with shaking hands to complete sterility - no teeth, no pain.
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 28 June 2020 11: 30
                  -11
                  Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
                  But if you really follow it, then an "experienced" doctor who cannot be retired in any way

                  Who can’t it? 76% of the people who voted for it to be, and only a statistical error against. By the way. On the second day, we will once again see some people's confidence in Putin.