I am a rebel who once changed his country to a beautiful package

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Well, the voting has begun, and those who, with the stubbornness of a rhinoceros, have opposed amendments to the Constitution of Russia, have already realized that they stood against the wind. There are no opponents. People, not paying attention to these "strongholds of truth", vote. This is the main thing today. People express their opinion. The understanding came that “I didn’t vote for it, which means that I won’t be guilty of what happened later”, it doesn’t pass. I can’t sit back.

How has the political climate in the country


Have you noticed how the political climate in the country has changed? Previously, before campaigning for amendments, it was more or less clear who is who. There was a group of ardent “Westerners” who, out of habit, smeared all of our mud and praised everything “there,” foreign. There were those who were kind of against the West, for Russia, but another, with a different power. There were no other options for these views, but the essence was simple. We are against the power of "EP" and Putin. Well, and supporters of the government. Those who are always in favor.



What do I personally see today? Suddenly, campaigning for or against amendments divided the country according to a completely different principle. The name of the party or social movement is completely irrelevant. It doesn’t matter what you are or how you say it. We learned to speak beautifully and intelligibly. It's expensive to watch our political shows. Opinions for every taste and color. But, by and large, all these masterpieces of oratory are no longer inspiring anyone. We understood the difference between word and deed.

Today we are divided according to a completely different principle. Look how many Western politicians spoke out about the Russian constitution, how many media outlets published materials on this topic. How many seasoned analysts and party leaders washed the bones of literally every amendment. The West howled from some. And, in my opinion, most Western leaders have opposed a change in the liberal constitution.

And here interesting things surfaced already among our political elite. Someone spoke unconditionally in favor. Someone ardently defended their options for amendments, someone immediately took the position “against”. Here it is, the border that today divided the country. We divided into those who are against Western influence and want to live in an independent country, and those who are for the West. Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents.

I think that there are not so many supporters of the United States as a country simply dying of the desire to make Russia great. But supporters of the US point of view on the amendments, again I will clarify, the Russian constitution, we had enough. Somehow puzzles don't work out for me.

I support the enemy’s point of view, but I want my happiness. This does not happen. Are you clean or dirty, big or small ...

I don’t want to remember about some large political parties. According to the old, still Soviet, memory, these are popular parties that advocate for the common man. And out of habit supported by part of the people. But what happened? Offended the poor party members. They did not accept the amendments that they wanted to push through. So, what is next? And then, right with the red banner in the camp of the opponents ... It happens.

I was already a rebel and lost my country


I am from the generation that today is accused of having ruined the country. It is she who is guilty of the destruction of the USSR. Therefore, I have the right to share some thoughts with my younger colleagues, with those who are unhappy today and want to destroy the “whole world of violence”. Those who are already writing to me that after the vote, where they managed to see a couple of “ticks” in the column “for” by other voters, they became sad for the country, sad for its future.

The fact that Western countries are constantly engaged in us is no secret. So it was, it is, it will be so. We are opponents, competitors, enemies. No matter what politicians and party leaders say. The amount of resources on the planet is limited. A handful of countries use the lion's share of these resources. The rest get crumbs. The Hungry want more. But then the "well-fed" will receive less. The desire to live worse due to a lack of these same resources among the "well-fed" is not observed.

In the USSR, we young people lived a calm, predictable life. Kindergarten, school, vocational school or technical school, if you are not a good student, an institute after a decade, moving to another region after graduation, creating a family and life, life, life ... We even had the border of becoming an adult: “Nothing, will return from the army by man. ”

We ate good foods. For today's young man, it will probably sound wild, but a bottle of beer in the store did not stand for more than three days. And the main “filler” in the sausage was paper ... Our girls went to school in cashmere dresses. Yes, it was a school uniform. From natural cashmere, such brown, veterans remember. We practiced in free sports sections, went to free circles.

We were careless. And our parents were careless. But we were just like youth today. We were unhappy! The BBC or Voice of America, which we listened to for recording new music, told us how bad it was. And we believed! A pure wool suit for 150 rubles did not suit me. My dream was jeans for 180-200 rubles. And all the talk that this is a robe, I considered stupid ...

The first jeans I sewed a friend. From colored cord. The same that is used in the manufacture of car tires. Yes, and "got" it at such a plant. Speckled jeans. Just because there was a real metal thread in the material ...

But Seva Novgorodtsev told me that I was not free. He was a popular presenter of the time. Many told me that I live poorly, in between musical compositions. I looked at the smuggled Playboy, flaunted at Levi Strauss ... I had an American plastic bag with a Marlboro cowboy pattern! And I had a tragedy when someone cut this package a little ...

And then there was the army. Which really set my brains. And millions of others are out of luck. They remained young, angry, unhappy, ready for conflict. To be honest, I still can’t understand how we, well-educated, well-fed, living in apartments with all conveniences, not knowing the problems with clothes, school, leisure, and prospects in life, were led into this ...

Yes, probably, we really exchanged our country for beautiful packaging and jeans. We exchanged our future for imaginary freedom. Therefore, it is worth remembering this. More precisely, remind today's rebels. Do not destroy what has already been created. They don’t build on the ruins. Build on a specially prepared site. A normal owner will never destroy what is built, if there is an opportunity to finalize, modernize, improve ...

Finish or continue


Soon we will know the result of the vote. We will modernize the country or wait again for the “tractor”, which will simply destroy it with its bucket. Personally, I have already lost a country that I was unhappy with due to the lack of a beautiful package. Do not want anymore. I no longer want to live the way they live there. I want to live as I like.

Then, in the Soviet past, it was easier to deceive me. I watched American films on the Soviet "VM-12." I watched western magazines and listened to the stories of emigrants about their beautiful life in London or Washington. Today, in the age of information technology, it has become more difficult to deceive. The network allows you to see the real life there, if you wish.

Yes, and there are many opportunities to see the world with your own eyes. If you wish, you can always find a way to see the West from the inside. To live there or even stay if you want to. But you don’t have to break your country.

Let the USA remain the USA, France France, Germany Germany, and Russia Russia ... Youth is a shortcoming, which, unfortunately, is quickly passing. Someday rebels and freedom lovers will understand me.
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  1. +7
    28 June 2020 10: 13
    I voted for amendments to the Constitution.
    1. +24
      28 June 2020 10: 54
      ANDREY MIKHAILOV_
      I voted for amendments to the Constitution.
      MALADETs, buy yourself a candy, and you yourself, now you will definitely not get anything from the government, except for extending the terms of zeroed out.
      For particularly stubborn proponents of voting, I have only ONE question. WHAT actually did you vote for? WHAT was such an amendment worth voting for in bulk?
      At least someone from the supporters of voting "FOR" can clearly tell me without pathos, FOR what actually you voted for?
      Of the sane amendments, there is NONE clearly articulated. For the indivisibility of borders - so there it is with a reservation on the demarcation of borders, under which you can bring anything from Kaliningrad to the Kuril Islands. For indexing pensions? So there is also no specifics, it can be indexed at 0,00001% and this will not contradict the Constitution.
      SO WHAT DID YOU VOTE FOR?
      And you voted for the expansion of the powers of the Federation Council, the nullification of the terms of the darkest and the elimination of it and the clique from any responsibility !!!
      My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go on my own and will not let my own go, so as not to betray the legitimacy of this farce!
      1. +8
        28 June 2020 11: 07
        What exactly did you vote for? Please - I'm in favor of "zeroing". A counter question, only clearly - why does this amendment scare you?
        1. +54
          28 June 2020 11: 16
          Nothing, except that the authorities finally broke away from the people and prescribed themselves a complete indulgence in actions in the future and a complete lack of responsibility for their actions, even if they would be criminal in relation to Russia. Are you for it? The flag is in your hands ... I am AGAINST!
          1. +21
            28 June 2020 11: 20
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            The flag in your hands ... I am AGAINST!

            I STRONGLY SUPPORT !!!
            1. -4
              28 June 2020 11: 30
              Malyuta
              I STRONGLY SUPPORT !!!
              Judging by the number of minuses, the vote will take place as the authorities should. Forgive the minusculers, but I just want to say: THE WAR HAS TAKEN NOT ALL THE SICK! You are being pushed into another scam, and you are being fooled again!
              1. -6
                28 June 2020 11: 48
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                You are being pushed into another scam

                yes not a scam! Remember the territorial claims of GDP to Kakhakhstan, the Baltic states, Ukraine! Do you think they will give it yourself? laughing
                War?
                90 years ago it was already
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                THE WAR HAS NOT ALL ALL THE PATIENTS!

                sad to look at all this
                1. -1
                  28 June 2020 11: 57
                  Silvestr (Sylvester)
                  Remember the territorial claims of GDP to Kakhakhstan, the Baltic states, Ukraine! Do you think they will give it yourself? laughing war?
                  Well, let’s put no one will ask the Limitrophs and will not: they will give - they will not. The hegemon will weaken, but it will still weaken, either they will give it up themselves, or they will come running back to Russia.
                  In the end, the option of Crimea has not been canceled. They will hold a referendum and a la huh ... The scheme has already been tested and worked out. There is no sense in fearing sanctions, they are forever now. So I do not see any obstacles. And not one of the former Union republics is able to fight on its own with Russia, only with the help of the hegemon. But as Georgia showed, the hegemon is not a panacea. The United States will not fit in even for Kazakhstan in which case. Well, unless China wants to share Kazakhstan.
                  And so, I do not see any obstacles. The West and the USA, including now, are not up to us; they would solve their problems without loss. So it's time ...
                  1. +3
                    28 June 2020 12: 07
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    They will hold a referendum and a la huh ... The scheme has already been tested and worked out.

                    sure?
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    The hegemon will weaken, but it will still weaken, either they will give it up themselves, or they will come running back to Russia.

                    you are not like these

                    While the fat dries, the thin one dies
                    1. +15
                      28 June 2020 12: 27
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      While the fat dries, the thin one dies


                      if only his fat, as well as his muscles, is not inflatable, stemming from the release of a green piece of paper that has not been provided for a long time with goods or labor made on it.
                      The British Empire did not print such candy wrappers (every pound released was provided with goods and labor) but still collapsed.
                      So the only product the United States produces is the dollar as the world's reserve currency. It will collapse and the bold will instantly turn thin, like Britain did when the main diamond in the form of India fell out of its crown.
                      1. 0
                        28 June 2020 18: 22
                        Quote: lopvlad
                        if only his fat, as well as his muscles, is not inflatable, stemming from the release of a green piece of paper that has not been provided for a long time with goods or labor made on it.

                        The world has changed, now no one is measured by tons of smelted pig iron or mined ore. Technology and the service sector are running the show and rest assured that the United States will have the strength to hold these positions long enough. Obviously longer than the Russian Federation can afford to swing.
                        You can answer, so they buy up technology and "brains", so who was in the way of Russia? She received little currency in the fat years for oil?

                        Quote: lopvlad
                        The British Empire did not print such candy wrappers (every pound released was provided with goods and labor) but still collapsed.

                        Two world wars, the influence of the two Super Powers, the collapse of the colonial system and the large-scale movement for the independence of the colonies, we no longer take into account?

                        Quote: lopvlad
                        So the only product that the United States produces is the dollar as the world's reserve currency.

                        Blessed is he who believes.
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                        28 June 2020 22: 30
                        Well done. Everything is spelled correctly. +++
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                  2. -20
                    28 June 2020 19: 42
                    He laughed. No one will ever strive for Russia in their right mind! Especially considering the realities of recent years. Therefore, only by military means and not otherwise.
                    But the question of sanctions has not been canceled! Those that are now introduced? This is so, for proforma so to speak. What a little mind to correct the great geopolitics. Major sanctions have not yet been imposed. And this is an elementary disconnection from the payment system (SWIFT), after which load the oranges with wagons. And the second is oil and gas in exchange for food!
                    Notice! Not sowing material and agricultural chemistry, namely food! That no one will give a fishing rod, they will give a fish, so that they would not start to eat each other from hunger.
                    Or do you think that the GDP after the arrival of the small Vatican ambassador just passed back in terms of LDN?
                    By the way, knocking Russia out of the oil market based on UN sanctions is just a dream. The market is stabilizing, prices will also go up. But all this will be without Russia! Iran and Iraq can confirm!
                    1. +14
                      28 June 2020 21: 19
                      Quote: dgonni
                      Notice! Not sowing material and agricultural chemistry, namely food!

                      And that in Russia there is no food?
                      1. -11
                        28 June 2020 21: 45
                        And take an interest in yourself purely with what they sow and how they process the fields! 25-30% of sowing material Russian, everything else is from behind a hillock. So in cases where the yield of 40+ will be a dream come true. And everything will return to square one in 20-25 as in a union.
                      2. +14
                        29 June 2020 12: 30
                        And take an interest in yourself purely with what they sow and how they process the fields! 25-30% of sowing material Russian, everything else is from behind a hillock. So in cases where the yield of 40+ will be a dream come true. And everything will return to square one in 20-25 as in a union.

                        I am constantly interested, as I have been working in this area for more than one year. Winter (wheat, barley, etc.) is almost 100% our selection.
                      3. +6
                        29 June 2020 16: 29
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        I am constantly interested

                        Alexei, explaining dill for Russian grains is obviously a thankless task. Yes laughing hi
                      4. +1
                        30 June 2020 16: 54
                        Sasha, let it develop. soldier
                      5. 0
                        29 June 2020 19: 29
                        Quote: dgonni
                        25-30% of sowing material Russian, everything else is from behind a hillock. So in cases where the yield of 40+ will be a dream come true.

                        Will the source be?
                      6. +3
                        30 June 2020 16: 53
                        Practice 12 years in one of the largest agricultural holdings in the South. Will arrange such a source? Imported seeds are sunflower and sugar beets, partly corn (about 40% of the market). For corn, google the Ladoga seeds, I also worked there. Now the plant has expanded to all of Russia. The originators of winter seeds - the main one - is the Lukyanenko KNIISH (google, yourself, yourself). Soy is practically a domestic selection - VNIIMK named after Pustovoit (google it yourself). Where there is a lot of imports, it is plant protection products (plant protection products and spare parts for equipment, as well as imported equipment itself). Conclusion - sprinkle ashes on your head, preferably, agricultural workers work quietly.
                      7. -2
                        30 June 2020 19: 22
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        (google, herself, herself)

                        That is, again blah blah blah.
                    2. +20
                      28 June 2020 22: 07
                      "And this is an elemental disconnection from the payment system (SWIFT), and then load the oranges in wagons."
                      To write this, you need to at least roughly understand what SWIFT is. Where did you just read about such a magical power of SWIFT?
                    3. +9
                      29 June 2020 01: 25
                      dgonni (Djon), this year it is planned to sell grain to Russia more than the whole of Europe or the USA. A very good harvest is expected, although not a record 2017.
                      In general, grain sales have doubled since 2008.
                      1. -13
                        29 June 2020 10: 27
                        So no one argues that! But if there is no seed imported material, then there will be no modern crops. And you can immediately forget about export
                      2. +3
                        29 June 2020 12: 02
                        dgonni (Djon), you have a layout, how many domestic seeds, how many imported?
                    4. +2
                      30 June 2020 15: 06
                      And you happen to be from Ukraine?
                      I’m from Minsk and we’re sitting here, wondering what will happen next if our dad is 31 and the next cards are not signed.
                      How many of our hard workers are there in Russia before the coronovirus, 500-700 thousand people worked. And how do you take it and don’t open the borders (we didn’t enter quarantine) It’s clear that they have some kind of badge, but anyway, they’ll eat it.
                      Without the Russian market, we will get everything, or almost everything. And I just can’t understand what our rulers will do with a huge mass of hungry people left without work, because of not signing the integration in full and as a result of the loss of your market.
                      That’s why the alarming notes of our president about the collapse of the country slip through.
                      1. 0
                        1 July 2020 13: 57
                        Ask Ukrainians how you will live. And Belarus is now actively promoted according to the Ukrainian scenario
                  3. -2
                    29 June 2020 11: 32
                    If this is a provocation, then it is very thick.
                    if you really think so ... then remember how "small victorious wars" often end for the Russian Federation.
                2. 0
                  29 June 2020 06: 52
                  Not GDP but Russia
              2. +4
                28 June 2020 11: 59
                The Varangian is the most intelligent, who thinks differently of him, enters the scam, but doesn’t tidy up the war ... but haven’t they learned anything from mediocre idiots and just traitors, at least some kind of protective tool is needed? Ksenia Sobchak over the skis lubricates, waiting in line, a worthy replacement!
                1. +16
                  28 June 2020 12: 14
                  ankir13
                  The Varangian is the smartest one, who thinks differently of him, enters the scam, but doesn’t tidy up the war ... but because of mediocrity idiots and just traitors, at least some kind of protective tool is needed
                  Smart or not, time will tell!
                  the last 70 years have not taught anything?
                  I wonder what they taught you?
                  Ksenia Sobchak over the skis lubricates, waiting in line, a worthy replacement!
                  Well, you don’t have to hold everyone for fools ... All these ksyushadi, greetings and others, it's just a screen, clowns in the arena, who are taken out just to show that there is no alternative to Volodya and nothing more.
                  So it was you who scored the scam, congratulations - you are the one who loses the scam ... laughing
                2. +4
                  28 June 2020 21: 07
                  Quote: ankir13
                  The Varangian is the smartest,

                  No, so-so, a provocateur! Worthless, in fact! Fake fiercely, instead of facts, cites, as arguments, the most obvious stupidity and nonsense of a liberal schiz.
                3. 0
                  30 June 2020 00: 17
                  So he is a Varangian, not local, alien, that he is Russia.
              3. -1
                28 June 2020 12: 06
                And where did you get the idea that it’s not you who are sick?
              4. +18
                28 June 2020 21: 23
                Why do you consider yourself right, a priori, right? Maybe it is you who are being pushed into another scam? I 99% agree with the author of the article. How to whom to vote is everyone's personal business. And those who want to confirm their position with rudeness in relation to the opponent can only be advised to look for other arguments for the dispute.
                1. +4
                  29 June 2020 10: 20
                  And for those who want to confirm their position with rudeness in relation to the opponent, we can only advise you to look for other arguments for the dispute
                  The Varangian just listed the arguments .. But no one can answer or refute .. How many conversations have already been about this - no one has ever been able to explain the need for these amendments ..
                  1. +2
                    29 June 2020 12: 25
                    Once again I reread the so-called. arguments. These are not arguments, but emotions and a general set of phrases written using Caps lock, mixed with rudeness - "not all patients were cleaned by the war" - apparently this is the main argument in the dispute. And I did not speak at all about the necessity or uselessness of the amendments.
                    1. 0
                      1 July 2020 14: 00
                      Have you read the amendments yourself?
                      1. 0
                        1 July 2020 18: 28
                        Was reading. And in order to save your and your time, I’ll say in advance that I didn’t notice anything bad in them.
              5. -2
                29 June 2020 15: 41
                and here you are, all so white and so healthy .... handsome Karoch
              6. 0
                1 July 2020 13: 54
                Everyone already told them on TV, so there’s no need to think for themselves anymore, and read the amendments too. And you still can’t convince a stubborn ram. All this is sad
          2. +3
            28 June 2020 11: 29
            your mistake is that you speak for all the people. I assure you that since you think far from everything. we must always speak for ourselves and not assume the right to speak for the people, as many here have fallen in love with.
            1. +8
              28 June 2020 11: 49
              Quote: carstorm 11
              your mistake is that you speak for all the people.

              so you are not the whole nation!
              Quote: carstorm 11
              I assure you that since you think far from all

              request
              1. +3
                28 June 2020 11: 56
                so I do not speak for all the people! the fact that there are people who think not as having written can be seen here. I state this fact. do you disagree with me that there are those who are for and against? and people excuse this very concrete concept; otherwise, a person would say part of the people.
                1. +21
                  28 June 2020 13: 06
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  so I do not speak for all the people! what are people thinking

                  It’s precisely thinking ... and of course it arrives in our regiment, but the propagandists are throwing tons of noodles into the media that this process is not fast, but is already rapidly gaining momentum. The process was started with the pension reform. After zeroing and with the new Constitution, the process of those who are getting smarter will accelerate. For an even greater number of people will understand that the matter is not in the Constitution, but in the people who now run the state.
                  1. -4
                    28 June 2020 13: 11
                    it excites me a little. I am annoyed by people who for some reason decided that they can speak on my behalf as a resident of this country. my life quite suits me. I will see the one who is better, I will support. but so far there are none even at the horizon level.
                    1. +16
                      28 June 2020 14: 00
                      The fact that you only care about your life, we have already understood, and that you do not consider shame pension reform, a hundred-fold violation of your word, millions of beggars are also understandable. You do not care that they have nothing to eat or have to eat something that can not be called food.
                      You are doing well ...
                      1. -9
                        28 June 2020 15: 00
                        You understood everything in your own way, but this is understandable. I do not care about pension reform since I cannot imagine myself retired and I am not going to leave for it. I care about the well-being of my family in the first place and I spend my time on it. for I consider this the first priority of every man. call it selfish — okay so. and do not shame me with this. this is my position. politician broke his promises) this is kapets how amazing. like snow damn in winter. )
                      2. +5
                        28 June 2020 15: 49
                        Well, if just an ordinary "politician", then there are no questions
                      3. +6
                        28 June 2020 16: 00
                        politician or not or not. if you are waiting for a new chapter that will keep all its promises, then you will be naive. a new one will come and then another and then another and everyone will forget about their promises. such is the world.
                      4. +6
                        28 June 2020 20: 34
                        Make a mistake, that is, if you follow your postulates ... Are you not naive and ready to support politicians who can simply lie and forget about the promises made? Because: "This is the world"? Yes, such a world! Such a world definitely needs change. To think so means to allow oneself to be trampled into g-but still enjoy it.
                        I apologize to the admins, but could not answer softer.
                      5. 0
                        29 June 2020 02: 44
                        you are so crazy just don’t build a sanctuary right now?) such a world requires change))). these are not my postulates. This is an objective reality since ancient times. because the best is sometimes the enemy of the good. because life generally consists of daily compromises. we time daily. generally every person. we say that everything is good to relatives when it is bad. we smile when it hurts. we wear masks even in front of the closest ones. and politicians are people too. and they all have it all work.
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                      10. +1
                        29 June 2020 12: 16
                        if they face Putin’s face
                      11. +1
                        29 June 2020 11: 23
                        Quote: volodimer
                        I apologize to the admins, but could not answer softer.

                        Some admins forgive. And many are punished more simply for words ...
                      12. 0
                        29 June 2020 06: 54
                        Such as you went to the Germans in the service only benefit was.
                      13. 0
                        29 June 2020 07: 17
                        shut your mouth. and learn to read before blaming this nonsense.
                      14. 0
                        29 June 2020 11: 38
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        shut your mouth. and learn to read before blaming it.
                        en
                        And he’s all right ska [hide] [/ hide] the hall, your position is my shirt closer to my body, I will not retire, and I will fight for the rest. I feel good and okay. And the invaders will come and go to them, this is an objective reality from antiquity, many did
                      15. +4
                        29 June 2020 11: 46
                        you do not compare me with you. I, unlike you, your native epaulets wore the floor of life. and where you talkers run me not know. if my opinion is not to your liking this is not a reason to be rude to people.
                      16. +2
                        30 June 2020 11: 56
                        Your position is close to me ... I also think that - the best enemy of the good ... I do not hope for retirement ...
                        PS ... "You should be arrested. - For what? - And you do not like the proletariat. - Yes, I do not like the proletariat" ...
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                  2. -5
                    28 June 2020 18: 08
                    United Russia 10 - 0 Russian people. The people once again lost. Well, the score on the game, what can I say. Citizens are still infantile. Well, thank God.
                    1. 0
                      29 June 2020 12: 17
                      we hate bulk
                      1. 0
                        29 June 2020 12: 55
                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        we hate bulk

                        What's the point? Why not planted yet?
                      2. -2
                        29 June 2020 13: 24
                        if you put screams there will be even more
                      3. +2
                        29 June 2020 13: 26
                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        if you put screams there will be even more

                        I write very correctly - This not daring position. Not very brave.
                      4. 0
                        29 June 2020 17: 16
                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        Why not planted yet?

                        I do not hate Navalny. so despise a little laughing although after his last trick is not a bit ..
                        why not planted? what for? he collects all kinds of marginals around him and everything is under supervision. let Azev, pah, Navalny, continue to work wink
                      5. 0
                        30 June 2020 12: 39
                        You work badly, rudely. Tonschеe need, thinеe. And then cut the salary.
                2. +5
                  28 June 2020 17: 45
                  "A fool is getting richer with a dummy." , and it looks beautiful, if you don't think about it, but why the hell they are needed in the Constitution ...
                  Here I have repeatedly made clear arguments here and in zen, citing the amendments and comparing them with current legislation, proving their anti-nationality and orientation against the sovereignty of Russia. And what do you think? - At least one of those who advocated amendments would be able to object at least something intelligible? No (they didn’t even try) - the transition to personalities, insults, absurd sweeping accusations immediately begins. What is this talking about? - Either only complete stupid people are in favor of the amendments, or only those who are supposed to be ex officio ....
                  Well, you can't trample against the state machine, of course. So the "people" will vote "as it should" - they have already announced that it will be 73% in favor.
                  By the way, in Yoburg, “someone” spread a rumor among the grandmothers that those who vote “against” will be deprived of their pensions. And the grannies, of course, fell for it. My mother (86 years old) and her girlfriends voted "for" together, and they persuaded me: "Otherwise they will come for you!" .... This is the State Department we have here ....
                  1. +7
                    28 June 2020 19: 34
                    Quote: whowhy
                    By the way, in Yoburg, “someone” spread a rumor among the grandmothers that those who vote “against” will be deprived of their pensions.

                    A head to think - not? Who benefits from a negative reaction to the vote, really Putin? Can't think with our heads? Well yes! you, in the Yo-burg eat it! It is not in vain that the state consuls (and those that are lower) come to you as to their home, and they feel like at home! Classes on "building democracy" are regularly held! And I will not forget you your persistent desire to "separate from the damned MATSKVA". Fifth, no, sixth column!
                    1. -1
                      28 June 2020 21: 26
                      Quote: Igor Aviator
                      It’s not for nothing that the consuls of the United States (and those that are lower) travel to their homes and feel at home!

                      Why then Putin will not cover the consulate there so that no one travels?
                      1. -1
                        29 June 2020 15: 10
                        Quote: albert
                        Why then Putin will not cover the consulate there so that no one travels?

                        The time will come and cover ... in the meantime, the screech will be the whole world, including from such as WhoWhy ...
                    2. -3
                      28 June 2020 22: 44
                      Igor Aviator
                      "It never happened and now again" ... lol
                      What is your opinion - "a negative reaction to the vote?" Conversely, the - grannies intimidated, so that those in harmony and positive "yes" votes (but first wanted to "against"). They then also at elections together "for" vote. What do you want? And with a demand of rumors? You can always say that this nonsense they come up with, or traditionally blame everything on the Department of State. laughing
          3. +3
            28 June 2020 13: 06
            What do you want under capitalism? As for me, it is not Putin that needs to be changed, but the system. Putin (as for me, this is the best thing that could happen in the Russian Federation under capitalism) And let it be better for the bourgeoisie to carry out this zeroing. But now I am not sure whether the popular movements will be able to take power and take advantage of this amendment. But in the future, when the authorities, quoting you further (with which they agree), "finally broke away from the people and prescribed themselves a complete indulgence for further actions and a complete lack of responsibility for their actions, even if they are criminal in relation to Russia," I think this the amendment will be claimed by these movements. And it's stupid not to see this perspective.
            1. 0
              29 June 2020 16: 33
              Quote: gurzuf
              whether the popular movements will be able to take power and take advantage of this amendment - now I’m not sure.

              Especially if frankly marginal parties emerge under the brand name of "folk".
          4. 0
            28 June 2020 13: 26
            Name the power that at least did not come off, what you are trying to wipe, verbiage
          5. -3
            28 June 2020 20: 18
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            power finally detached from the people
            And when did it come off? Was Yeltsin closer to you, Gorbachev? Andropov with Chernenko? Perhaps, dear Leonid Ilyich ... Alas, even if he was at the beginning, he soon ceased to be power and turned into a laughing stock hung with undeserved awards: a ready candidate for the role of another scapegoat responsible for stopping on the way to a bright future, "stagnation" ...
            1. +2
              29 June 2020 11: 52
              Quote: sniperino
              hung with undeserved rewards:

              And now on TV aunts are shown with big stars and hung with medals ... Honored? Maybe they deserve them. But how?!
          6. -1
            29 June 2020 20: 46
            you)) what kind of power is that? specific names of a surname call
          7. +1
            2 July 2020 22: 14
            And what kind of power are you for? Or at least name your full name. "The power has broken away from the people" - sounds like a slogan. Then give an example of the people's power.
          8. 0
            3 July 2020 21: 07
            Usually power is ALWAYS divorced from the people, if its people or more powerful someone did not control. And as soon as it comes off far, ALWAYS there is someone (usually outside) who will help the authorities break away from the country and lose both the people and the country. And the civil war begins. While the government is anti-people, this will be repeated regularly. In the 20th century, we went through this twice. Well, once the power can not learn from the mistakes of its predecessors, let it perish. I feel sorry for the people. He did not deserve such a fate, to be an expendable material in the profits of the capitalists and cannon fodder in the political ambitions and mistakes of the bourgeois.
        2. +3
          28 June 2020 11: 22
          Quote: gurzuf
          What exactly did you vote for? Please - I'm in favor of "zeroing". A counter question, only clearly - why does this amendment scare you?

          It can be used, then twisted and used again. But endlessly twisting it is somehow not hygienic.
        3. +5
          28 June 2020 12: 01
          Quote: gurzuf
          Please - I'm in favor of "zeroing". A counter question, only clearly - why does this amendment scare you?

          She can no longer scare us. From this amendment turns back, as from the corpse of a decomposed animal. Look, here you can see why and why:
          1. -16
            28 June 2020 15: 34
            Quote: ROSS 42
            From this amendment turns, as from the corpse of a decomposed animal

            Oh hello guys (Svarog, Sylvester, Howling, Baby ...) hi
            I see, I see, everything at the post Yes we can say at the last frontier ...
            I am ready, during "debriefing," to confirm to your masters from the State Department that although you lost the anti-voting campaign ineptly, you tried very hard.
            And the USSR flags, portraits of military commanders and used horses, to find out what was in diapers Putin childhood ... and I can even confirm that you sang in chorus (quietly) "Ukraine Has Not Yet Perished ...," and "God Bless America. .. "
            True, the guys write later how the grandmasters yelled at you. Interesting.
            1. -16
              28 June 2020 15: 40
              Oh, hello guys (Svarog, Sylvester, Revival, Baby ... They are regulars here from morning to evening, The hosts will not appreciate their efforts.
            2. +17
              28 June 2020 16: 01
              Quote: Terenin
              Oh hello guys (Svarog, Sylvester, Howling, Baby ...)

              And your order can be seen on the full provision of the cooperative "lake"?
              Primitive thinking by the training manual .. you are trying to write half of the country as agents of the State Department, but I’m sure that it’s you who supports Putin and the results of his reign (extinction of Russian citizens, pension reform at the direction of the IMF, stable impoverishment of the population, collapse of your own industry and medicine .. well and stuff ..) it’s you who are the agents of the State Department, but not everyone is smart enough to understand this ..
              1. -6
                28 June 2020 17: 13
                Quote: Svarog
                but you are not all smart enough to understand this ..

                Well, of course, that’s enough for you, but I don’t request
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              2. -6
                28 June 2020 17: 22
                Quote: Svarog
                And your order can be seen on the full provision of the cooperative "lake"?

                It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself.
                1. +12
                  28 June 2020 17: 44
                  Quote: Terenin
                  Quote: Svarog
                  And your order can be seen on the full provision of the cooperative "lake"?

                  It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself.

                  laughing Do you think that you are driving someone wassat You have a distorted perception of reality .. No arguments, only mooing and a reference to feelings .. you have a highly developed female component because men think logically and judge by deeds. And the deeds and achievements of your idol are sad ...
                  Let's chase me .. laughing I will ask some simple questions, and you answer briefly yes / no and everything will be clear ..
                  Is there a population growth in the country?
                  Do you think the Russian economy is effective?
                  Have citizens' incomes increased over the past 6 years?
                  And have there been more billionaires in the last 6 years?
                  Is free medicine better? (here you can read more ..)
                  What scientific discoveries have been made by Russian scientists over the past 6 years?
                  What kind of Russian scientists do you know around the world?
                  Do you think there is political competition in Russia?
                  Do social obligations of the state grow in your way or degrade?
                  Corruption, nepotism in the country is growing?

                  If you do not merge and answer unequivocally without water, in this case there are still questions:
                  - An ineffective leader can rule for your life?
                  - can a country's leader lie to his citizens?
                  - should the leader of the country be responsible for his promises and their failure to fulfill?
                  Good luck, the answers will be painful for your consciousness, of course if it is not painful laughing
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                    1. +6
                      28 June 2020 20: 07
                      There is no other system and there will not be, there is nothing to change, the majority of citizens are satisfied with the current situation, there are no wars, no famines, no cataclysms. The economy, despite everything, is growing slowly but it is growing and the problems are the same as for everyone in the world. And how many churches in Russia per day open to all to spit this information only those like you are interested.
                  2. 0
                    28 June 2020 19: 25
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Do you think that you are chasing someone? You have a distorted perception of reality .. No arguments, just a lowing and a reference to feelings ..

                    Well, here one is already nervously running around with prepared cribs. Late, Mr. Student, the company’s time is over. Go answer to the grantor. Dare, if anything, I'm near wink .

                    Quote: Svarog
                    you have a highly developed female component because men think logically and judge by deeds.
                    Sorry, did not recognize you in the mask, Dr. Kashpirovsky.
                    He is not a magician and not a psychic ... He is a psychotherapist! belay


                    Quote: Svarog
                    And the deeds and achievements of your idol are sad ...
                    Oh, already guilty, out of habit appointed. Familiar winked
                    "with a high probability"...


                    Quote: Svarog
                    I will ask some simple questions, and you answer briefly yes \ no and everything will be clear ..
                    but maybe still take parts ...? winked or all at once?

                    Quote: Svarog
                    If you don’t merge and answer unequivocally without water,
                    Please, announce, please, the name of the selection committee. Oops, yes I know you all for sure fellow

                    Quote: Svarog
                    in this case, more questions:
                    Always glad to help in trouble buddy drinks
                    1. +3
                      28 June 2020 19: 29
                      It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself

                      Actually, I expected such an answer from you ... With such answers, you only have to drive the "bald" one laughing
                      And still can answer at least one question?
                      1. -1
                        28 June 2020 19: 34
                        Quote: Svarog
                        It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself

                        Actually, I expected such an answer from you ... With such answers, you only have to drive the "bald" one laughing
                        And still can answer at least one question?

                        Do not be afraid, go boldly, Vladimir, Bolshoi Devyatinsky, house 8, then tell wink
                      2. -1
                        28 June 2020 19: 43
                        Quote: Terenin
                        Quote: Svarog
                        It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself

                        Actually, I expected such an answer from you ... With such answers, you only have to drive the "bald" one laughing
                        And still can answer at least one question?

                        Do not be afraid, go boldly, Vladimir, Bolshoi Devyatinsky, house 8, then tell wink

                        Terenin merged ... was blown away ... only he began to swell and then burst laughing I see that you have no arguments and the fact that you are not even trying to pick them out means that you understand everything .. and if so, why do you support it? Are you on the RFP?
                      3. 0
                        29 June 2020 22: 02
                        Hello Svarog hi . Sorry for the delay. Unlike your gloom, I have many good deeds.
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Terenin merged ... blown away ... burst
                        Obviously, in translation - "! Become ease disperse!" ??? How do you know so well my levels? It is difficult to achieve, but I will try winked .

                        Quote: Svarog
                        I see that you have no arguments and the fact that you are not even trying to pick them out means that you understand everything .. and if so, why do you support it?
                        I understand, buddy, two days are left before you get an "Fail" grade request Do not worry, it will be possible to retake, in the 24th year, in the presidential election. Just get ready.
                        Ah, when nicknames (in blogs, forums and chats) will not be anonymous, but as in China, according to passport data ... then it will be clear - ... but who is wandering around at all? Maybe coronavirus !? belay

                        Quote: Svarog
                        Are you on the RFP?
                        Yes, feel but it draws to you, as at night to ... the refrigerator crying
              3. +7
                28 June 2020 18: 10
                Quote: Svarog
                but I’m sure that it’s you who supports Putin and the results of his reign, (the extinction of Russian citizens, the pension reform at the direction of the IMF, the stable impoverishment of the population, the collapse of your own industry and medicine .. well and so on ..) it’s you who are the agents of the State Department but you are not all smart enough to understand this ..

                How? extinction of citizens of the Russian Federation, before Putin (in 90) there was an extinction as in 43 years. who is to blame? Also Putin? Stable impoverishment of the people? In 90 years there was nowhere to go for poverty below, when salaries were not paid for 6–9 months, is there such a thing now? In the 90s, medicine was just awful now much better, it doesn’t even compare. And even industry was in the ass even before Putin. But the question is if Putin is so bad, why did he need all the large gas-oil companies in which the majority stake was in private hands (echo 90), so now the state has a majority stake. No one argues that we have a lot of problems, corruption and yes in Russia over the past 5 years, many officials have been imprisoned, are slowly fighting corruption. Why does the Western world hate Putin, if he is so bad for Russia he should be loved there, but not. No one wondered if Putin began to reckon with Russia and he himself said that he was playing a long game. History will then show what Putin did for Russia.
                1. +9
                  28 June 2020 21: 45
                  "... The Western world hates Putin, ..."
                  The rams were scared by wolves all their lives, and the Shepherd ate them.
                2. 0
                  28 June 2020 23: 18
                  And what of the 90s did Putin take? Primakov must bow down to his feet, but Putin too quickly "leaked" everything that Primakov managed to build in such a short time ...
                  1. 0
                    29 June 2020 01: 35
                    Primakov was one of Andropov's associates in the collapse of the USSR through the creation of oligarchic structures.
                    1. +2
                      29 June 2020 08: 35
                      Pavel57
                      Now you can chat anything. Khrushchev created oligarchic structures, forbidding the KGB and police to touch the party nomenclature and organizing mass housing construction ....
              4. +3
                29 June 2020 01: 33
                Recalling the cooperative LAKE is exactly the methodology of the State Department.

                And if in fact, that any politician does business with the "plus" and "minus" plyuse.dlya GDP in Russia. A system and oligarchs have created before.
                1. 0
                  29 June 2020 12: 41
                  Quietly with himself ...
            3. +6
              28 June 2020 16: 09
              Oh hello guys (Terenin ,, Andrey Mikhailov_2, carstorm 11, ...) hi
              I see, I see, everything at the post
              why are you so happy about the optimization of medicine? You have recognized the tax haven of geydorasov and your family didn’t interfere with any amendments, you have nothing to say in defense here and you are rude.
            4. -4
              28 June 2020 17: 52
              In the "State farm to them. Lenin, "owned by a member of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Pavel Grudinin, people complain about coercion to vote against amendments to the Constitution. Those who disobey are threatened by fines and even dismissal.


              This is the official public city of Vidnoye “VKontakte”.


              The situation check was undertaken by the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation. Such coercion is completely illegal, according to lawyers.


              Complaints were received from state farm workers on the “hot line”, which began work last week. The authorities require a report: a ballot with a vote against must be photographed.


              “They clearly made it clear: we must vote“ against ”and fix it, take a photo as evidence,” “they threaten us with dismissal, they advise us to think about salaries,” the complaints of the victims quoted by the public city of Vidnoe say.


              According to Russian laws, coercion to vote faces criminal liability up to 5 years in prison. If the information is confirmed, Pavel Grudinin shines a real time. The head of the commission of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation Maxim Grigoryev joined in the investigation of the situation.
            5. -1
              28 June 2020 20: 47
              Quote: Terenin
              True, the guys write later how the grandmasters yelled at you. Interesting.

              Calls Antires
              And such isho cut:
              How do they have sms there -
              With the transfer of ali without?
            6. -2
              28 June 2020 22: 13
              Quote: Terenin
              I am ready, during "debriefing," to confirm to your masters from the State Department that although you lost the anti-voting campaign ineptly, you tried very hard.

              1. 0
                29 June 2020 22: 18
                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: Terenin
                I am ready, during "debriefing," to confirm to your masters from the State Department that although you lost the anti-voting campaign ineptly, you tried very hard.


                Doctor-patient: - I have bad news for you ...
                - Doctor! I will die?
                - Not! We will treat you.

                By the way, a normal film "Brother-2", especially the place where Bandera's people are "treated":
                “You, bastards, answer for Sevastopol!”
          2. 0
            28 June 2020 19: 53
            I saw this fake - a product of Platoshkin. Are you so stupid to contend with him? A worthy client of Platoshkin! wassat As for me, that to these assholes - belolentochnikami unfairly treated gently. Look in France with the "yellow jackets", or in other "svetlolikih" countries "democratic" treat "the opposition" - batons, tear gas, and just that - lead pill to teach it! Chinese - so in general, MOLODTSY- after Tian An Men-peace and quiet, and the GDP sharply up skakanul! So I do not need this argument lead - it is not worth a damn! I do not understand what these belolentochnikami lisp? My will be - they would have no longer had!
            1. +1
              28 June 2020 23: 25
              Finally! We were waiting for you so, my friend! Explain to us fools what fake is? Where did she lie hidden? And, preferably, please point by point.
          3. +2
            29 June 2020 04: 07
            here they’ve blinded the video, counted ... for life! rules for life, for life in the council of federations = mathematics does not converge. clearly victims of the exam.
        4. 0
          28 June 2020 13: 00
          Quote: gurzuf
          why does this amendment scare you?

          The fact that zeroed will still be in power for many years, while there will be jurisdictions and even though there is not a single indicator (demography, economics, medicine, industry, etc.) that would say that a person location. The state is degrading, and this is a fact, as is its political system.
          1. 0
            28 June 2020 20: 02
            Quote: Svarog
            The state is degrading and this is a fact

            What are you saying? Really? It is strange, but, for example, the State Department and the European Commission believe the other way around - that the strengthening of Russia and the threat to the interests of the United States because of this is growing, and you do not give any facts - only screams "everything is gone, everything is asking ... are polymers!" Noble, then Vladimir Vladimirovich pinched you, respect to him! No wonder I and all my relatives "FOR!" voted! Nothing, the time will come and FOR REPEATED Presidential Powers MANDATORY vote! Yes
            1. -2
              28 June 2020 20: 08
              Quote: Igor Aviator
              What are you saying? Oh really? Strange, but, for example, the State Department and the European Commission

              Naturally, the strengthening of Russia is not profitable for the United States and Europe, and for this reason, we only trade in raw materials and weapons .. the weapon is good from the USSR left .. We have been assigned the role of a raw materials appendage and you are happy about it .. sadly ..
              and you do not give any facts - only screams "everything is gone, everything is asking ... whether polymers!"

              You obviously don’t know how to listen and see .. What’s there .. the statistics will bring you, you trust him .. here and see how we have demography, the economy .. and so on, whoever wants to see and hear will hear ..
              Notably, then Vladimir Vladimirovich nipped you, respect to him!

              You are talking about pension reform now, about total impoverishment .. yes, notably they work ..
              Nothing, the time will come and for REPEATED Presidential Powers MANDATORY VOTE! yes

              Different times may come ..
            2. -1
              28 June 2020 23: 37
              Strange, but, for example, the State Department and the European Commission believe the opposite - that the strengthening of Russia and the threat to US interests are growing.

              Did you come up with this yourself, or does one of them call you regularly? And, even if this is true, then ordinary workers from their military-industrial complex also want to eat. You and the Americans, like in Krylov's fable: "The cuckoo praises the rooster for praising that cuckoo" ....
              and the fact you do not bring any - nothing but cries of "all is lost, all I ask ... whether polymers!

              No, well, it’s already nagging! They threw so many facts to him, even showed a movie - you have to rejoice and boldly throw your breast at the embrasure (that is, at the facts), but in response there is only some miserable tussle and ridiculous sweeping accusations ....
      2. +19
        28 June 2020 11: 51
        The article is just a masterpiece! In addition, I, too, was born in the USSR and I understand something ... It was necessary, the author is proud that he ate compote, ice cream and gauno at one go!
        And you voted for the expansion of the powers of the Federation Council, the nullification of the terms of the darkest and the elimination of it and the clique from any responsibility !!!

        But this is the main reason for all the amendments!
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 12: 32
          Quote: mark_rod
          ice cream and gauno in one plate!


          apparently the majority of those who voted for the amendments in the USSR ate only ice cream and only a few percent who are against the amendments are still doing the same.
          1. +2
            28 June 2020 20: 06
            Small Fixed: those who are "against" do not like, that those who are "behind" in the USSR, eating ice cream, they would like to, that would be all - as they themselves ate "the thing."
            1. -2
              28 June 2020 23: 41
              Well, it’s immediately obvious that toilet humor turns you on and you are always ready to support this tension (instead of responding with feeling and arrangement to specific facts) .... wink
        2. -16
          28 June 2020 12: 46
          Quote: mark_rod
          It was necessary, the author is proud that he ate compote, ice cream and gauno at one go at a time!

          There is simply such a category of people about whom they say: goofan elk is not a mammoth, it will not die out. Let them eat this gauno, processed by a propaganda-patriotic perfume, a full spoon.
          As for the vote, our apartment rang the bell last night. I open, there are three ladies from the election commission, they offered to vote ahead of schedule. Naturally, I refused, said that I would not participate in this circus in principle.
          1. +6
            28 June 2020 13: 13
            Interestingly, the girls are dancing "ahead of time" if the vote is already going on since June 25. laughing Forgot to say that you are the daughter of a Russian officer wink
            1. +1
              28 June 2020 14: 21
              Quote: gurzuf
              Interestingly, the girls are dancing "ahead of time" if the vote is already going on since June 25.

              What is not clear? Voting at polling stations is underway and, in parallel, bypass all houses. Naturally, they cannot get around everything in one day. Yesterday they reached us.
              Quote: gurzuf
              Forgot to say that you are the daughter of a Russian officer
              This is not at the address. You need to reset to zero with this question.
              1. -1
                28 June 2020 14: 32
                The meaning of the word "early" according to Ozhegov: early - carried out earlier than the established date.
                1. 0
                  28 June 2020 16: 51
                  Quote: gurzuf
                  The meaning of the word "early" according to Ozhegov: early - carried out earlier than the established date.

                  I'm from people like you, just amazed.
                  July 1 is the day of voting on constitutional amendments. From June 25 to June 30 you can vote ahead of schedule, having come to the polling station or at home, if members of the election commission come to you, as well as in 2 regions, you can vote online. Voting before July 1 is an early voting, as All-Russian voting day is scheduled for July 1.
          2. +1
            28 June 2020 13: 27
            Quote: mdsr
            Naturally, I refused, said that I would not participate in this circus in principle.

            And I will. Also fundamentally. But not in the circus, but in the vote. I vote FOR the amendments. I consider them correct and necessary.
            Almost all of my friends and family feel the same way. These are real people, different, young and mature, mostly educated. I know them, but there are no "deniers" from the Internet.
            So it seems that Russia will vote for the amendments. As if someone did not want the opposite.
            PS I'm from St. Petersburg.
            1. +8
              28 June 2020 14: 04
              Of course he will vote, no matter how anyone wants to, you can’t argue here.
              With "state employees" so generally everything is clear.
              By the way, do not know how much pride and conscience today?
              1. -2
                28 June 2020 14: 15
                Quote: Revival
                how much is pride and conscience now?

                I do not know, did not trade. Tell us about your experience?
                1. +3
                  28 June 2020 14: 18
                  Yes, I’m just watching messages from public sector employees, in particular, on the Internet, how they are given instructions on how to vote, and so the question arose, how does it bend and trade with conscience and pride
                  1. -7
                    28 June 2020 14: 55
                    In how all overexcited. You might think that from the rejection of amendments the next day the kingdom of heaven will come. To my conscience, you have questions.
                    For me, your idea of ​​conscience is something new.
                    I read the comments of opponents of a strong state and saw nothing but agony. Your card is a bit, gentlemen, whiners and forever dissatisfied.
                    And in general, here is my advice to you. Better get down to business and try to give no more than 15 minutes a week to your fiery speeches on this site.
                    1. +6
                      28 June 2020 14: 57
                      To your conscience, it’s just that the questions have completely disappeared, it’s useless to ask questions into the void ...
                    2. +5
                      28 June 2020 14: 58
                      You might think that from the adoption of amendments the next day the kingdom of heaven will come.
                    3. +18
                      28 June 2020 15: 54
                      Quote: RESEARCHER
                      You might think that from the rejection of amendments the next day the kingdom of heaven will come.
                      You would think that from the adoption of the amendments is the "kingdom of heaven" is also not come. Is the constitution without amendment forced the president to raise the retirement age (although he claimed that while he was president, this would not be as adjustment to the constitution or by whom)? Do you think that all the amendments will change for the better?

                      Why are advertisements only part of the amendments, there is not one character, who would say, I am for the fact that it will be possible to dissolve the Duma, at any time to remove unwanted judges, what am I for resetting the deadlines? Is it objective, is it fair? Why are the amendments reduced to one list, where it literally turns out that while agreeing that you are for "white", below you automatically agree for "black", which is not particularly advertised. This is not only a violation of already existing provisions on amending the Constitution, but also an outright scam.

                      It is possible to understand those who were bought, to whom it is profitable, but it is impossible to understand those who wanted the best, but it will come out, as always ... It is also difficult to understand which "Sword of Damocles" hangs over Domokl, that he campaigns for something that will hardly be a boon for Russia, especially if such vast powers fall to another president, much more dependent on the West. Some naive Vasya Pupkin from Mukhos may not understand this, but not the experienced “former rebel” Alexander Staver, who is actually campaigning for the usurpation of power.
                  2. +8
                    28 June 2020 14: 56
                    So ask those who "seem to give instructions." At the same time, you will find out whether payment is attached to the instructions or not.
                    I serve in ... a federal budget organization wink soldier and no one gave me any "kind of instructions" how to vote. And to ensure the attendance of the subordinate l / s too. Here is the order to provide an OPPORTUNITY for voting, yes - it was. This is a common practice.
                    1. -7
                      28 June 2020 17: 15
                      So I say "common practice".
                  3. +3
                    29 June 2020 14: 23
                    It’s interesting, I’m a state employee, but nobody asked me “how to vote”. Maybe there are wrong state employees in Chelyabinsk?
              2. 0
                28 June 2020 16: 15
                how much is pride and conscience now?
                You are a little wrong here. If the state employee does not go to provide the turnout, then he will be provided with unemployment.
                These obviously burns out. You can fake voices, but how to fake turnout.
                1. -5
                  28 June 2020 17: 25
                  Well, why is it wrong.
                  Then the price is the opportunity to work.
                  With a different approach, we can gradually reach the excuse of the Vlasovites
                  1. +1
                    28 June 2020 18: 45
                    Our cinema is confidently moving in this direction.
                2. -7
                  28 June 2020 21: 10
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  If the state employee does not go to provide the turnout, then he will be provided with unemployment.
                  Somehow not enough, listlessly - without courage ... A pensioner will be taken away from a pension, parents - children ... So many options, but you have no creativity. It smells of incompetence, if I may say so about this amber ...
              3. +3
                29 June 2020 05: 00
                You seem to have had enough money. It is a pity that there is no conscience.
            2. +5
              28 June 2020 17: 22
              Quote: matRoss
              I vote FOR the amendments. I consider them correct and necessary.
              Which one is right? I haven’t found it.
              Useless and harmful are, but necessary ... they are in your dreams.
              1. -3
                29 June 2020 07: 02
                and tried to read something? and the previous one, without amendments, like it? oh- again about zeroing the tale begin. Well, fucking to help you.
                1. +1
                  29 June 2020 07: 40
                  Quote: begemot20091
                  and tried to read something?
                  I know the letters. I tried it. And the amendments, and the current, and the USSR.
                  So: the amendments suggest useless and harmful. Making life better is not.
                  I do not understand something? Well point me. I want to be wrong.
                  You can lick the insane yourself: he rams against the vote.
            3. -1
              29 June 2020 10: 30
              Are you not from the Internet?
          3. +3
            28 June 2020 20: 37
            Quote: mdsr
            He refused, said that I would not participate in this circus in principle.

            What is interesting, because people say it is "Pepsi generation", that is, those who have not seen and do not feel the full horror of the 90s! W here govorit- fools!
        3. -8
          28 June 2020 14: 50
          and how old are you "born in the USSR" was that?
          1. +5
            28 June 2020 20: 45
            Quote: Maximilian37
            and how old are you "born in the USSR" was that?

            For thirty I was when our regiment was taken to Kaluga forests.
            1. -3
              29 June 2020 05: 05
              I guess from the GSVG? You went there enthusiastically. And why, when they took them out to the forest, didn’t leave the service? Would you go to business, to the factory? Just don’t say that factories didn’t work all. I do not believe it, he worked until recently from that illustrious time. And if it’s bad near Kaluga, there are many places in Siberia.
        4. +1
          28 June 2020 18: 21
          Quote: mark_rod
          And you voted for the expansion of the powers of the Federation Council, the nullification of the terms of the darkest and the elimination of it and the clique from any responsibility !!!

          But this is the main reason for all the amendments!

          Also in the amendments there is a clause where it says how immunity can be deprived of the president and all any including. So everyone is nullified? So at the moment, who can be appointed president for Putin's place? In general, I think with full democracy there shouldn’t be a number of terms (for example, in the United States when they accepted a declaration of independence, you could run for as many times as you like, but after Roosevelt visited more than two times, they decided to cancel it), so if people trust why not
          1. -1
            28 June 2020 19: 21
            It’s not necessary to blame the people. And the United States is correctly referenced, this is the most powerful country in the world, and they achieved this, among other things, by their constitution, which says that the president has no more than 2 terms of 4 years. Probably many consider them stupid for this, in vain - look at the power of their country, at the standard of living.
            1. 0
              28 June 2020 20: 18
              More than 40 million homeless and poor people have already watched in this powerful country, and now there’s an ass in general there in connection with protests and layoffs.
            2. +1
              29 June 2020 01: 43
              Roosevelt had three terms.
          2. +2
            28 June 2020 20: 58
            Quote: Achilles
            So everyone is nullified?

            No, all of them, like the State Department, which paid for all this howl, are rooted in the idea that Russia, under the control of the hated Putin, will gain absolute independence, including: withdrawing its Central Bank from their control, introducing the primacy of its laws, excommunication double agent powers, and more ...
          3. +2
            29 June 2020 07: 45
            Quote: Achilles
            Also in the amendments there is a clause where it says how immunity can be deprived of the president and all any including.
            Does Article 93 not allow this?
        5. +11
          28 June 2020 21: 15
          Recently I read a lot of comments that those who are against amendments are directly agents of the SGA, bulk, Khodorkovsky, LGBT and all the evil forces that want evil to our homeland. Have come to propaganda.
          In 2014, after the Crimea, I told everyone that VV received an indulgence for everything that happened before, he could then do anything and the people would support him. But this whatever became "pension reform", which he promised not to carry out. Now the constitution and the annulment ... Which also promised not to do ...
          I am against amendments. But not because I’m an agent of the State Department, But because I’m sick! There was continuous humiliation from the whole vertical: deputies, measures, governors, senators, and even bureaucrats of all levels could not be counted.
          The Rutskoi and the Khazbulatovs, the Nemtsov and Kasparov, the Bulk with the Khodorkovsky were alien to me ...
          But for some reason I always put before a choice between "Huge klizmu and shit sandwich" in the cartoon South Park. That is a choice without a choice. And then there's a beautiful phrase from haha ​​guarantor promise to guarantee does not change anything, that we must work and not to look for receivers ....
          Now for sure, I won’t live up to retirement, and my heirs will not live up to the change of guarantor.
          After all, he brought it to the point that the people who supported him a couple of years ago were involuntarily in the same trench with the bulk they despised. It was necessary to be able to. Congratulations to you BB!
      3. +25
        28 June 2020 11: 54
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        SO WHAT DID YOU VOTE FOR?

        "FOR" Preserving and perpetuating Yeltsin's merits in the form of "Yeltsin Center" and the entire "team of" reformers ".
        "FOR" the preservation and strengthening, legitimacy and the outcome of the revision of the refusal "privatization" of the 90s.
        "FOR" the Wailing Walls and the continuation of the further vilification of the country's Soviet past.
        "FOR" Pension reform, tax increases according to "official" and planned (!) Inflation.
        "FOR" Further continuation of "optimizations" and deindustrialization of the country.
        "FOR" the capitalist way of "development" of a separate society on the territory of the Russian Federation and further stratification of social groups of citizens of the country.
        In general, for the very Yeltsin Constitution, which essentially remains unchanged, as well as the political system generated by it.
        Those who voted "AGAINST", in fact, voted for the preservation of the same Yeltsin Constitution, only without the amendments that are already spelled out in the Federal Law.
        The bottom line. All who voted "FOR" and those who voted "AGAINST" voted for the same thing. lol
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go on my own and will not let my own go, so as not to betray the legitimacy of this farce!

        good At least one sane response to "playing with thimbles" on a national scale.
        1. +2
          28 June 2020 17: 25
          Quote: Sovetskiy
          At least one sane response to "playing with thimbles" on a national scale.
          Really?
          1000 said FOR, 1000 thought they were against, but said NO of them 500 ...
          ... and so it turned out: 1000 - FOR, 500 - AGAINST.
      4. -7
        28 June 2020 11: 56
        Well, exit the site, otherwise it’s blah blah blah ...
      5. +6
        28 June 2020 12: 12
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        At least someone from the supporters of voting "FOR" can clearly tell me without pathos, FOR what actually you voted for?

        And can you personally explain why you do not like Russia's withdrawal from American control? Legal control, by the way.
        Why did the Hague arbitration make semi-fraudulent Yukos, bought for $ 2 million (in a collateral auction), made it equal to Microsoft of those years? And according to the Yeltsin constitution, the decisions of the Hague arbitration prevail over the requirements of the Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos on the fact of tax evasion.
        Sakhalin, given by Shell for a pat on the shoulder. Take as much oil as you want, chop and export timber, well, and Russia - as much as you give, we will be glad. If Shell sues, according to the current constitution, we will be obliged to return all the profits that Shell lost in a decade and a half. Priority of American laws over Russian ones.
        And it suits you!
        Yes, if it weren’t for Zero, you are now not protesting on the Internet, but using a digging stick for the rhizome of dandelion in the Irtysh flood plain.
        1. +4
          28 June 2020 12: 33
          Oyo Sarkazmi
          And can you personally explain why you do not like Russia's withdrawal from American control?
          Do not tell my slippers ... laughing WHAT Amendment Indicates US Out of Control? Maybe the Constitution prescribed in black and white that the CBR is no longer under the control of the US Federal Reserve?
          Do not think that everyone is as naive as you are!
          1. +5
            28 June 2020 12: 57
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            that the CBR is no longer under the control of the US Federal Reserve?

            Indicate the law on the control of the Central Bank of Russia by the Fed. Just stupid mriy. Otherwise, the gold of the Reserve Fund has long migrated into the pockets of American government officials. As under Yeltsin, he arrived, gave advice, took away a million and shares of the oil company.
            1. +1
              28 June 2020 16: 00
              Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi)
              Indicate the law on the control of the Central Bank of Russia by the Fed.
              Well, yes, the Americans go so far as to prescribe a whole "LAW" on the control of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation by the US FRS ?! Where are you the only ones fool the only ones taken away?
              Do not think that all around you are alone fool fool fool There are people who are able to think independently and understand what is written between the lines.
              Tell me more that the Yeltsin Constitution was written not without the help of the CIA, and I laugh ... laughing
              1. +4
                28 June 2020 16: 32
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                there are people who can think independently and understand what is written between the lines.

                People? I doubt it. A standard set of AI phrases.
                Ishcho, so thinking and big-eyed, how did you miss the 100 pages of the principles of the destruction of the Ukrainian economy and people between the lines in the Ukraine-EU treaty on European integration?
              2. +1
                29 June 2020 10: 37
                In Yunarmiya it seems they are recruited after the exam
        2. +11
          28 June 2020 14: 09
          "Why don't you like Russia leaving US control?"

          Because how they did it, they will continue to do it.
          I bet that from July 2 we will not stop paying, but will we continue to pay?
          1. -1
            28 June 2020 20: 22
            Do you pay the Fed?
        3. +2
          28 June 2020 17: 59
          Quote: Oo sarcasm
          And according to the Yeltsin constitution, the decisions of the Hague arbitration prevail over the requirements of the Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos on the fact of tax evasion.
          You are lying: the international court is not mentioned by any means in the Constitution!
          1. 0
            28 June 2020 21: 27
            Quote: Simargl
            Article 15
            The article was brought up correctly, but you are trying to interpret its meaning.
            1. +3
              28 June 2020 21: 35
              Quote: sniperino
              trying to distort its meaning.
              How can it be twisted?
              We look at the article:
              Quote: Simargl
              15.4. Generally recognized principles и norms international law and international treaties The Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If international an agreement The Russian Federation established other rules than those provided by law, the rules of international contract.
              Now look at the quote:
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              solutions The Hague Arbitration prevail over requirements Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos after tax evasion.

              Now the question is: what exactly did I misinterpret? And with what fright do the decisions of the Hague arbitration comply with international law?
              And how will the amendment prevent the Ministry of Finance from bending next time due to leaky laws in the past?
              1. -4
                28 June 2020 23: 39
                Quote: Simargl
                Now the question is: what exactly did I misinterpret?
                This:
                Quote: Simargl
                Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
                And according to the Yeltsin constitution, the decisions of the Hague arbitration prevail over the requirements of the Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos on the fact of tax evasion.

                You are lying: the international court is not mentioned by any means in the Constitution!
                Oyo Sarkazmi writes precisely: "according to the Yeltsin constitution." You twist, accusing him of lying, because no one claims that it is written about the Hague Tribunal. The crux of the matter is that the country's constitution should prevent future authorities from making such agreements. There is no mention of the Barents Sea either, but the amendment on integrity excludes such agreements. No need to muddy the water.
                1. +3
                  29 June 2020 04: 19
                  Quote: sniperino
                  You distort, accusing him of lying, because no one claims that it says exactly about the Hague Tribunal.
                  Not a tribunal, but arbitration. However, I'm talking about the court in general. And I say that the decisions of the international court must be implemented in the Constitution is not indicated at all. Norms - yes.
                  Quote: sniperino
                  The essence of the matter is that the country's constitution should prevent the possibility of such agreements by future authorities.
                  Those. do you want the emergence of "Sharia" on the principle you do not order us? Didn't you think what it might lead to?

                  Quote: sniperino
                  It does not say anything about the Barents Sea, but the integrity amendment excludes such agreements.
                  Have you read the corrections carefully? In another comment, I pointed out that changing borders is provided, but without the participation of the people. And he also indicated how the alienation of territories would take place (strictly according to the amendments).

                  Quote: sniperino
                  No need to stir up the water.
                  Am I torturing this ?! Maybe you are trying to justify a lie? It turns out, and you lie?
                  I am for the truth. Let not everyone like it.
          2. 0
            29 June 2020 12: 20
            Article 79

            The Russian Federation may participate in interstate associations and transfer to them part of its powers in accordance with international treaties of the Russian Federation, if this does not entail restrictions on the rights and freedoms of man and citizen and does not contradict the foundations of the constitutional system of the Russian Federation. Decisions of interstate bodies adopted on the basis of the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretation, contrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, shall not be enforced in the Russian Federation.]
            I highlighted the change. I think the question is this and this change is positive in my opinion. and directly refers to Yukos and international arbitration.
            1. +2
              29 June 2020 15: 20
              Quote: ghby
              change i highlighted
              Especially for you:
              Quote: ghby
              Quote: extract from art. 79
              based on the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretationcontrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation
              Those. this item is excessbecause enough clarification Constitutional Court, which was done not so long ago.
        4. 0
          28 June 2020 21: 22
          Quote: Oo sarcasm
          The priority of American laws over Russian. And it suits you!
          And even feeds some.
        5. +8
          29 June 2020 00: 06
          YUKOS is an intra-family showdown, for which, for some reason, the Russian people are paying. Who signed the contract with Shell? Oh, don't I hear? And who gave Russian lands to the Chinese and Norwegians without asking the people in a referendum (according to the Declaration of State Sovereignty, the adoption of which we celebrate on May 12)? Don't you know either? And who is going to alienate Russian lands through these notorious "federal territories", where even Russian laws will not apply (according to the amendment, again)? What, haven't you read it? And who (again, according to the amendment) is going to freely give away Russian territories through negotiations, hiding behind the word "delimitation" that is incomprehensible to most people? What haven't you read again?
          1. +1
            29 June 2020 14: 39
            What, excuse me, are we celebrating May 12?
            1. 0
              30 June 2020 08: 16
              June of course. feel love
          2. 0
            30 June 2020 12: 17
            For the increment of the Crimea, you voted in a referendum ???
      6. Don
        0
        28 June 2020 12: 52
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go on my own and will not let my own go, so as not to betray the legitimacy of this farce!

        You don’t even have to go, they themselves come. They have already come to me. I refused to participate in this clowning.
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 14: 03
          Donskoy (Vasily Ivanovich)
          You don’t even have to go, they themselves come. They have already come to me. I refused to participate in this clowning.
          They also came to me yesterday, and to their mother-in-law the day before yesterday. He sent everyone to a well-known address, but politely, without using non-normative vocabulary. All the same, ordinary people there, the same as me, are only state employees, i.e. people are a priori bonded.
      7. -12
        28 June 2020 16: 22
        You have to go vote against. Otherwise, instead of you, the employees of the election commission will vote for your amendments with your ballot. No need to give them a chance to rig the vote.
        1. -5
          28 June 2020 16: 41
          You do not understand, for you already voted, you Pamfilova has it told the Russian language. No matter kauyu zakovyka you put "FOR" or "AGAINST", you are required turnout ie recording that you have already received the newsletter. WHAT vote, it is not important, it is important how to count!
          Think for yourself, WHY is there such massive advertising? Does the slogan "vote or lose" mean anything to you? WHY was such massive advertising launched across ALL media? Even the fucking TNT was connected. Don't you think this is strange? WHY such massive advertising?
          And then, with your ARRIVAL at the polling station, PERSONALLY YOU will legitimize this FARS! Already voted for you, HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS?!?!?! YOU NEED ANOTHER ONLY !!!
          Understand it already!
          1. +1
            28 June 2020 18: 08
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            And then, that by YOUR ARRIVAL at the polling station, PERSONALLY YOU will legitimize this FARS!
            Nonsense! Legitimate without you! All who did not say their word - in fact, cast a voice of the opposite content.
            1. -2
              28 June 2020 20: 21
              Quote: Simargl
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              And then, that by YOUR ARRIVAL at the polling station, PERSONALLY YOU will legitimize this FARS!
              Nonsense! Legitimate without you! All who did not say their word - in fact, cast a voice of the opposite content.

              In fact, everything is much sadder. Have you read the news about how journalist Pavel Lobkov voted twice in one day without any problems (remotely and in person)? In other words, whether you come or not, whether you vote “for” or “against,” it doesn't matter anymore. Draw any turnout and approval numbers. This is not even a scam, it is a slave system.
              1. +1
                28 June 2020 21: 05
                Quote: Normal ok
                Lobkov in one day voted twice without problems (remotely and personally)?
                Is the further fate of the votes known? Cancellation of electronic records in the presence of paper - is this rubbish?

                Quote: Normal ok
                In other words, whether you come or not, whether you vote “for” or “against,” it doesn't matter anymore.
                Those. Do you continue to agitate for absolutely legitimate winding up?

                Quote: Normal ok
                This is not even a scam, it is a slave system.
                When was it canceled?
          2. -1
            29 June 2020 00: 12
            You didn’t understand anything - it’s just for the authorities that it is very beneficial for everyone who is potentially against staying at home. So, all these slogans are just invented by the authorities:
            “The authorities are only interested in the appearance, and the percentage will be drawn as needed. When we come, we increase turnout, that is, we play into the hands of the authorities. ”
            Then they can draw an appearance, then what would be the point in coming to agitation? Obviously, despite the possibility of fraud, something depends on the real results.
            "The authorities made a farce, voting is illegal, I am disgusted to participate in this."
            If we adhere to such a strategy, it will be beneficial for the authorities to organize more and more disgusting and more and more illegal electoral events each time, and then report on their support to the people. Do we want this?
            “By participating in the vote, we will legitimize (si) rule the regime.”
            It is not clear what this mythical legitimation means. What are the specific mechanisms of this process? For example, if in the country there will be 70% of the people “against”, 30% “for”, and out of 30% “for” everyone will come, and out of 70% “against” no one will come - how will this help “delegitimize” the regime? On the contrary, if 70% “against” comes and their votes cannot be completely falsified (or even succeeded - but we know that the signs of falsification are subsequently clarified by a variety of methods) - how does this legitimize the regime?
            "I do not want to participate in the game with cheaters."
            This is an incorrect analogy. If you are offered to play a game and you refuse, the game will not take place (and if it does, its outcome will not affect you in any way). A vote will take place in any case, and its outcome in any case will affect us. If you try to make this analogy correct - we are already in the game, we have already given the money away, and now we can try to take it away from the sharpie, or just leave with our head down.
            1. -4
              29 June 2020 13: 17
              Quote: whowhy

              0
              You didn’t understand anything - it’s just for the authorities that it is very beneficial for everyone who is potentially against staying at home. So, all these slogans are just invented by the authorities:
              “The authorities are only interested in the appearance, and the percentage will be drawn as needed. When we come, we increase turnout, that is, we play into the hands of the authorities. ”
              Then they can draw an appearance, then what would be the point in coming to agitation? Obviously, despite the possibility of fraud, something depends on the real results.
              "The authorities made a farce, voting is illegal, I am disgusted to participate in this."
              If we adhere to such a strategy, it will be beneficial for the authorities to organize more and more disgusting and more and more illegal electoral events each time, and then report on their support to the people. Do we want this?
              “By participating in the vote, we will legitimize (si) rule the regime.”
              It is not clear what this mythical legitimation means. What are the specific mechanisms of this process? For example, if in the country there will be 70% of the people “against”, 30% “for”, and out of 30% “for” everyone will come, and out of 70% “against” no one will come - how will this help “delegitimize” the regime? On the contrary, if 70% “against” comes and their votes cannot be completely falsified (or even succeeded - but we know that the signs of falsification are subsequently clarified by a variety of methods) - how does this legitimize the regime?
              "I do not want to participate in the game with cheaters."
              This is an incorrect analogy. If you are offered to play a game and you refuse, the game will not take place (and if it does, its outcome will not affect you in any way). A vote will take place in any case, and its outcome in any case will affect us. If you try to make this analogy correct - we are already in the game, we have already given the money away, and now we can try to take it away from the sharpie, or just leave with our head down.

              I thought about going to vote for a long time or not, but I read your fiery agitation and decided that we should not disappoint a fiery Russian patriot like you! I'll go tomorrow, vote for the amendments! Thank you, convinced! drinks
        2. +2
          28 June 2020 18: 05
          Quote: BigBoss
          You have to go vote against.
          Need to go. And vote.
          Quote: BigBoss
          Otherwise, instead of you, the employees of the election commission will vote for your amendments with your ballot.
          Even if this is not done, they need only a quorum and silent adversaries.
          Quote: BigBoss
          No need to give them a chance to rig the vote.
          Everything is very simple: one FOR is neutralized by one AGAINST. One outstretched AGAINST is one active FOR ...
      8. +1
        28 June 2020 16: 35
        Vote against. Ignore is sabotage.
        1. +2
          28 June 2020 18: 11
          Quote: Lamp post
          Ignore is sabotage.
          Ignore is +1 in the "FOR" box.
          How pseudo-OPPONENTS became more active ...
          1. -2
            28 June 2020 19: 23
            So even more so, let him hurry to vote. What are we rubbing here against?
            Ps clone Stoll, are you responsible for the Varyag in the first person?
            1. 0
              28 June 2020 19: 33
              Quote: Lamp post
              What are we rubbing here against?
              So I say: did you notice how agitated those who position themselves as opponents of the amendments, but campaign to stay at home?
              But everyone who has sat out AGAINST is FOR.
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      9. -3
        28 June 2020 16: 43
        but I walked, they gave me a pen !!!. I actually went for it, I will keep it! and you didn’t go in vain with your family, they would give you a lot))). and you think that you proved something to someone? I voted for the preservation of the USSR a long time ago, and what? Everyone knows the result. So I don’t make my nerves, and I don’t advise you.
        1. -2
          28 June 2020 16: 54
          vadivm59 (vadim)
          and I went, they gave me a pen !!!.
          CONGRATULATIONS!!! You sold the future of your children for the "pen"!
          I understand perfectly well that instead of me someone SHOULD put some kind of record, BUT ... They can repeat as much as they want about "nationwide" support, which is NOT! And I definitely DIDN'T PARTICIPATE in this! They can fake records as much as they want, sign for me, BUT THIS IS A LIE!
          And the only way out of this is, DO NOT WALK !!! "FOR or" AGAINST "they will draw it as they need it, but here's the YAVKA, they are unlikely to be able to draw, although they will try hard.
          SO HERE LET'S GETTING OLD !!!
          1. -3
            28 June 2020 18: 29
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            CONGRATULATIONS!!! You sold the future of your children for the "pen"!

            How do amendments affect future children for the worse?
          2. Aag
            +1
            28 June 2020 19: 34
            We have advertisements on the radio: "It's easy to win an apartment! It is enough to come to the polling station, vote, approach KP (Komsomolskaya Pravda) volunteers, answer three questions ... The winner will be determined by the computer ..."
      10. 0
        28 June 2020 17: 13
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce
        Fine! You are against, but give an extra vote to those who are FOR. You see, the simplest puzzle with apples is not understood by you.
        1. +1
          28 June 2020 20: 07
          Quote: Simargl

          Fine! You are against, but give an extra vote to those who are FOR. You see, the simplest puzzle with apples is not understood by you

          It is not clear to you that the apples are not there. VOTING AGAINST is also voting FOR. At least for the Yeltsin constitution. As a maximum FOR the current government, which under the Yeltsin constitution received power and lived well for herself.
          1. +1
            28 June 2020 21: 13
            Quote: SVD68
            VOTING AGAINST is also voting FOR.
            This would be if there were a little more points than two. And so -You are wrong!
            Quote: SVD68
            At least for the Yeltsin constitution.
            They will put a signature for you. More precisely - you do not oppose nothing.
            Quote: SVD68
            As a maximum FOR the current government, which under the Yeltsin constitution received power and lived well for herself.
            It will be even better. And YOU indulge in this.
      11. +5
        28 June 2020 17: 46
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        At least someone from the supporters of voting "FOR" can clearly tell me without pathos, FOR what actually you voted for?

        1) in Article 67: b) to be supplemented with part 21 of the following content: the Russian Federation shall protect its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed. "; - This means publicly or not only to say that part of the territory should be surrendered Russia will not succeed, now they are talking about what needs to be given to Crimea, the Kuril Islands, Kaliningrad, it (the call to give part of the territory) will press on the minds of young people and can then play sideways for Russia (Do you understand the point or not?)
        2) The priority of Russian law over international. Decisions of interstate bodies adopted on the basis of the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretation that are contrary to the Constitution are not enforceable. (I think this does not need to be explained or is it necessary?)
        3) Tighter requirements for candidates for the presidency of Russia. The period of continuous residence in the country increases to 25 years from the current 10, in addition, the applicant for the highest position is prohibited from having foreign citizenship or a residence permit abroad at the time of nomination or ever in the past. - This means that it will be difficult for the authorities to break through such as Navalny, all sorts of aligarchs, such who will sell their homeland for a pittance.
        4) The entry of local governments and public authorities into a single system of public authority and the implementation of interaction for the most effective solution of problems in the interests of the population. - How is this amendment not comfortable or will it make life worse?
        5) Extension of the powers of the State Duma - approval of the candidacy of the prime minister, deputy prime ministers with ministers (with the exception of the heads of law enforcement agencies). At the same time, the president retains the right to approve the structure of federal executive bodies, make changes to it, and also dismiss the chairman of the government from office. - Is it really bad that the powers of the State Duma are expanding? Will it be bad for you personally?
        More than half of the amendments that supplement the existing ones and is it really bad? The amendments themselves will not make the life of citizens worse.
        If you are worried about extending Putin’s term, most of them support him, if you don’t support him, it doesn’t mean that no one supports him, my opinion is that there is no replacement for Putin at the moment.
        Putin is not eternal, but the amendments will remain. The Constitution was written in 93g. with the direct participation of the United States. And yes, the most important thing is for the amendments that we vote, according to the Constitution, the people’s opinion might not be asked, the constitution has parts that can be changed without the people, but there are people that can’t be done without, but here they ask us to vote (for or against) although they might not ask. + All the trash like Navolnit and traitors against amendments, this already says something.
        1. +1
          28 June 2020 19: 30
          Quote: Achilles
          Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states)
          those. people removed from the process? Well, as with Damansky, for example.
          Quote: Achilles
          This means publicly or not only saying that you need to give part of the territory of Russia will not work
          And this is not done. The territory is populated by a population loyal to a certain state, representatives penetrate into power, an disloyal population is squeezed out, and then an interstate agreement to re-mark the state border of the Russian Federation. So the amendment is Filkin’s letter and does not solve anything.

          Quote: Achilles
          The priority of Russian law over international. Decisions of interstate bodies adopted on the basis of the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretation, contrary to the Constitution, are not enforceable. (I think this does not need to be explained or is it necessary?)
          It is very necessary to explain. The fact is that the current Constitution does not contain obligations to enforce decisions of any court. There is an obligation to comply with international standards. And court decisions will force us to execute sanctions, if necessary. So whether an amendment is needed that does not cancel Art. 15.4? And is it necessary to cancel it (Article 15.4)?
          Quote: Achilles
          Tighter requirements for candidates for the presidency of Russia.
          Is it really big? There is a ban on money abroad, but not in foreign banks, there is no ban on real estate ...
          Quote: Achilles
          This means that it will be difficult for the authorities to break through such as Navalny, to all ̶а̶ oligarchs, who will sell their homeland for pennies.
          Squealed like a horse! Reservation? Heavy? Will it be almost impossible to pay Navalny to Raiffeisenbank (as an example)? And how will the corruption scheme differ? Under Stalin, the inability to have foreign assets helped a lot?
          Quote: Achilles
          More than half of the amendments that supplement the existing ones and is it really bad?
          Most are useless.
          Quote: Achilles
          The amendments themselves will not make the life of citizens worse.
          There is not one. Indicate if I am mistaken.
          Quote: Achilles
          Xia trash type Navolnit and traitors against the amendments, this already says something.
          Be careful when cornering! I voted FOR Putin, but AGAINST the amendments! tongue
        2. -1
          28 June 2020 21: 35
          Quote: Achilles
          The constitution was written in 93g. with the direct participation of the United States.
          This makes small opponents of the vote so loudly strain.
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          1. 0
            29 June 2020 04: 32
            Quote: whowhy
            Do you understand the essence?
            Do you know how everything happens? 99% of the people look at explanations, because the original text is rather long (all the more so - of the entire constitution: there is more than one page) and confusing. And "clarifications" can distort the meaning as required by the author.
            Everything is exactly as you indicate.

            Quote: whowhy
            Navalny clearly showed who he was working for, announcing a boycott of the vote, thereby delaying the huge number of people who would voted "против".
            drinks Yes
      12. -2
        28 June 2020 20: 30
        Alexander Staver - as Churchill said - "Who chooses shame, and not war, he receives both shame and war!"
      13. DPN
        +2
        28 June 2020 22: 26
        My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go myself.
        Here only: FOR or AGAINST, your ignore goes automatically FOR. so don’t powder your brains. It’s just that YOU will be fucked.
        1. 0
          29 June 2020 07: 53
          Quote: DPN
          My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go myself.
          Select a quote somehow. Otherwise, you can assume that you say so.
      14. +5
        28 June 2020 22: 45
        By the way, soon Sands may announce that indexation may be negative)))
      15. -3
        29 June 2020 00: 59
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        One question. WHAT actually did you vote for? WHAT was such an amendment worth voting for in bulk?

        Only one amendment is worth voting for. And if it is NECESSARY - in bulk, because everything else can then be changed, corrected.
        And this amendment is the abolition of the GLOBALITY of international (read - foreign) legislation over actually Russian one.
        ALL !
        The rest is garbage, associated noise.
        Thanks to the supremacy of THEIR legislation, juvenile justice, foreign subversive funds and other consulting companies are rampant in our country ... We HAVE such a MISCONDITION like the Central Bank !!! A foreign, supranational structure that does not obey anyone, but at the same time controls the entire financial system, produces (regardless of the Russian state !!!) the emission of the "Russian" ruble ... keeps the level of monetization (the fullness of the financial market with domestic currency) at the level .. .40% of GDP !!! Whereas in the whole world, even not free, this level is about 100% (even in the most extreme / worst cases - not lower than 50%), and in the leading economies of the world - above 100%, and even in some of them - above 200%.
        How will you feel if you pump out 60% of the blood?
        But this provision (the Law on the Central Bank) does not allow changing ... international legislation, the subordination (!!!) to which is written down precisely in the Yeltsin Constitution, which was imposed on us after the 1993 massacre in Moscow.
        A "fiscal rule" Do you also like that? !!!
        According to which all budget revenues are limited to us from above - everything that is more than allowed goes to the Western, or at worst just - foreign funds (for some reason they are called "reserve" in our country) ...
        Are you and THIS robbery ready to defend?
        Well, or SILENT ("ignore") agree?
        With the continuation of atrocities.
        Do you like that "Russian" banks issue loans at SUCH interest rates?
        And ONLY on bail?

        So who do you like?
        Communists who betrayed (once again) their voters?
        I didn’t hand over my Soviet passport until they seized it during the arrest of the SBU, but the modern Communist Party is a private firm named after Zyuganov, calabrants and sloths running to bow to every new US ambassador ... who advocate maintaining the inviolability of the colonial constitution, continuing this bacchanalia ...

        For me, in all these amendments, only ONE matters.
        For the sake of which this vote was started.
        In January of this year.
        When Medvedev resigned with the entire economic bloc.
        All the other (amendments) were stuck later - in the course of various ... discussions ..
        Chatted all !!!
        Came up with "zeroing" ...
        But who cares?
        Do not like this president - choose another for yourself, at least nominate yourself as a candidate.

        But it was after the announcement of the amendment of the Basic Law that all the whistle-blowing began - "zeroing out", a fake "epidemic", sabotage and raging "power" on the ground ... the buildup of the people into a riot, and guest workers ... just like American blacks .. . for robbery and robbery.
        You will track the chronology of events WHAT began immediately after the announcement of voting for genuine state sovereignty.
        And you will be very surprised how everything is harmonious and rhythmic ...
        hi
        1. 0
          29 June 2020 05: 07
          Quote: bayard
          And this amendment is the abolition of the GLOBALITY of international (read - foreign) legislation over actually Russian one.
          In order to write this - you need to figure it out.
          Is your statement knowledge-based?
          Do you know that international law is discussed, adopted, enforced, including with our participation, i.e. all the rules - and our minds are the cause. In addition, ratification is required for a performance obligation.
          Are international norms really bad?
          1. -2
            29 June 2020 15: 55
            Quote: Simargl
            In order to write this - you need to figure it out.

            Who's stopping you, sort it out. Now everything, or almost everything is in the public domain.
            Quote: Simargl
            Is your statement knowledge-based?

            Not in fantasies and emotions. Back in 1992, one of my programs saved one of the leading branches of the modern Russian economy from collapse. And not only from the collapse, but also from bankruptcy and, as a result, the sale of its assets to foreign companies. Now it is a bulwark and the main donor of the Russian budget.
            So I have enough horizons for my assessments.
            Quote: Simargl
            Do you know that international legislation is being discussed, adopted, enforced, including with our participation?

            Are you sure about that ? When was it with you (us) that such decisions were agreed upon?
            On the other hand, the supremacy of THEIR legislation is spelled out in OUR Constitution. That is why the IMF, the World Bank and other funny guys are rampaging ... Remind you about the "Pension reform"?
            Who obliged Russia to accept this bestiality?
            Or are you satisfied with the role and policy of the "Russian" Central Bank?
            Now we are watching how they chatted, shook and drowned the MAIN amendment, for which everything was started.
            Have you not noticed?
            Sorry .
            hi
            Quote: Simargl
            Are international norms really bad?

            They should not contradict and replace NATIONAL legislation.
            Otherwise, THIS is simple - slavery.
            As with juvenile justice.
            Will you protect her too?
            1. -1
              29 June 2020 18: 01
              Quote: bayard
              They should not contradict and replace NATIONAL legislation.
              Substitute?

              Quote: bayard
              Otherwise THIS is simple - slavery
              Now slavery is politically correct called lending. The state, company, person - it does not matter to the bank who will be a slave.

              Quote: bayard
              As with juvenile justice
              She will be dragged in with the "protection" of children. You missed it.

              Quote: bayard
              You and her will protect
              Does it exist in international law? What article? Juvenile juvenile discord. Juvenile laws in the USSR were, if that. What exactly is there to protect? Or would you just blurt out?

              Quote: bayard
              Therefore, the IMF, the World Bank and other funny guys are outraging ...
              Don’t get scared. You do not understand what you are talking about. The IMF is rampaging for a completely different reason - because it can. Or maybe because it can impose conditions for the issuance and repayment of loans. And where is there something in the amendments that can withstand the IMF and other "funny" but greedy guys?

              Quote: bayard
              Remind you about "Pension Reform"?
              The problem began to be discussed in the USSR. And in any case she would be pushed. I am surprised that this was not done in the 90s.

              Quote: bayard
              Now we are watching how they chatted, shook and drowned the MAIN amendment
              Is that what? The primacy of international law not in dispute! Disputed INTERPRETATION! But on this occasion has already made an explanation to the COP !!! How to talk to you if you don’t even know how to read ?!

              If you are talking about another amendment - specify immediately, to avoid misunderstanding.
              1. -4
                29 June 2020 18: 48
                Quote: Simargl
                The IMF is rampaging for a completely different reason - because it can. Or maybe because it can impose conditions for the issuance and repayment of loans. And where is there something in the amendments that can withstand the IMF and other "funny" but greedy guys?

                Are you raving
                And who imposed these loans on Russia and its economy?
                And why is the "Russian" banknotes printed / issued by the regional branch of the IMF?
                Because it could impose?
                But as ?
                With what ?
                IT registered in the Constitution of the Russian Federation after the bloody coup in Moscow in 1993.
                The national currency of a SOVEREIGN state must be emitted by the Treasury of that state. And the National Bank of Russia should lend to the economy, through its regional offices and, perhaps, through commercial banks, but certainly on its own terms.
                And all this should be carried out under the FULL control of the Ministry of Finance, the Head of Government and the President of the Country.
                Russia SAMA should and can lend to its economy.
                Or maybe you are here raskazhet as the "fiscal rule", it is purely "a sovereign and voluntary" decision of the authorities of the Russian Federation?
                The IMF has nothing to do with it?
                Sure ?
                And how does he do this?
                Is it because it is spelled out in the Constitution?

                And how to get rid of it?
                Explicit ordering is not possible - the Constitution prohibits.
                And how to change this article of the Constitution?
                If the Constitution does not give rights to this?
                But just the provision on the primacy of domestic law over international.
                It was only after the adoption of such an amendment can revoke "of the Central Bank Law" and many other things, from the outside wrought.
                Are you against it?
                Not at all surprised.
                And you have the right to express your opinion.
                By voting against.
                But fooling people's heads with their ravings and stirring up Negro passions for "zeroing" ... it's not good.

                And do not deal with casuistry and verbal tricks with me ... this is pathetic and funny for a knowledgeable person.
                1. -1
                  30 June 2020 05: 27
                  Quote: bayard
                  Are you raving
                  Probably.

                  Quote: bayard
                  And who imposed these loans on Russia and its economy?
                  And why is the "Russian" banknotes printed / issued by the regional branch of the IMF?
                  Because it could impose?
                  But as ?
                  With what ?
                  Should I tell you a story? You did not live then? Ask your parents how and what.
                  As economic ties collapsed overnight, the release of "high-quality" Soviet products using "newest" equipment became unnecessary and not profitable ... the consequences are important - unnecessary and unprofitable. How Yelqing began to beg for loans (oga - imposed) ...

                  Quote: bayard
                  IT registered in the Constitution of the Russian Federation after the bloody coup in Moscow in 1993.
                  Which item exactly? And then I know the letters, but I read with difficulty, it seems.

                  Quote: bayard
                  The IMF has nothing to do with it?
                  Well, go to the bank for a loan, impose your conditions. I have heard only about one person (a Voronezh resident, it seems) who could. Will not work? So what has the IMF to do with it, which has its own tasks and tools? Or some who did not read the "small print"?
                  Quote: bayard
                  Is it because it is spelled out in the Constitution?
                  Still waiting for a reference ... or article number.

                  Quote: bayard
                  And how to get rid of it?
                  1 - Develop an army.
                  2 - Constitutional Assembly.
                  Everything else is from the evil one.

                  Quote: bayard
                  But just the provision on the primacy of domestic law over international.
                  So it is not in the amendments. Not at all! You’ve been driven into a blizzard!
                  There is a point that interpretations will be disputed! And this means that court decisions will be challenged, but if it is recognized that these decisions are in accordance with International Law, they will be accepted! You do not understand this? Regrettably. And one more thing: the Constitutional Court has already given explanations on this subject, so the amendment is not needed - it is useless.

                  Quote: bayard
                  It was only after the adoption of such an amendment can revoke "of the Central Bank Law" and many other things, from the outside wrought.
                  Nothing will change! The amendment does not cancel the requirements to fulfill the concluded contracts. And they will take loans - enslaving agreements and will continue to be sucked in.

                  Quote: bayard
                  Are you against it?
                  I, in fact, against many points of the current Constitution, but also against dusting the brains and vparivaniya useless and even more harmful amendments. I do not want the bad to get worse.
                  Quote: bayard
                  And you have the right to express your opinion.
                  By voting against.
                  So am I already. Thank you for allowing.

                  Quote: bayard
                  But fooling people's heads with their ravings and stirring up Negro passions for "zeroing" ... it's not good.
                  Don't attribute to me what I don't do! I don't care about "zeroing"! If it was one harmful point - would vote FOR, but this is one of the useless, among the harmful.

                  Quote: bayard
                  And do not deal with casuistry and verbal tricks with me ... this is pathetic and funny for a knowledgeable person.
                  How so? You messed up nonsense here, but now you still do not understand the meaning of the proposal you wrote tongue
                  ... however, I now realized why you do not understand the meaning of the amendments.
        2. -1
          29 June 2020 11: 38
          Moreover, they are silent that the pension reform was launched from above by the IMF, and not only to us.
          1. -3
            29 June 2020 16: 06
            Many accepted this reform much earlier, Russia resisted ... And it (Putin) was broken through the knee, under the threat of mass attacks in the football championship.
            When Putin announced his decision to hold a constitutional reform, the whole economic bloc of the government immediately resigned, began with Display orgy of "zeroing", sabotage of all branches of local authorities (!), Hysteria koronobesiya with the collapse of the economy and the training of social explosions, shocks and riots - on the similarity of the Negro in the United States.
            And who is the moderator of all these demons?
            The one whom these reforms should \ may deprive of power and control over all of us.
            1. -1
              29 June 2020 17: 27
              And how many times did they reset their foreign accounts? No, all the boots are kissed by the master abroad ... People of servile rank are real dogs sometimes, the heavier the punishment, the better they are gentlemen (s).
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      17. +1
        29 June 2020 07: 09
        A rotten position. If you have to go against it, you should vote against it. Talks that anyway will count as it should be off topic. Well, let them try ... I’m going to vote against now. And even if they replace the results, at least conscience will be clear. And of course, as many people as possible are lured to the plots in the hope that those who are not satisfied with the protest will not come, but they will come to vote for. Here we have a draw of cars, apartments and smartphones)))) Give a leaf
        with questions about the knowledge of the constitution. A nurse's assistant from kindergarten won odnushka in Krasnoyarsk in Minusinsk. A class leader of the middle son agitates everyone to vote in a chat in Vaiber .... But then in general a message came from her - *** Unsubscribe, please, who already voted to me in PM. Thank you in advance!
        You understand that it is not out of personal curiosity.
        1. -2
          29 June 2020 16: 21
          This is a frank and thoughtful ANTI-ADVERTISEMENT, for the formation of a completely sincere popular protest. That is, the local authorities, which are opposed to this reform, pump up the hysteria "come and vote", bring another, report "," vote and win the lottery ", knowing full well that in this way they will only more strongly push people against liberation from supranational yoke.
          After all, all these actions allegedly "for voting" are carried out by the same people who sabotaged presidential decrees, plundered the budget and additional funds. payments to doctors, told people about "macaroshki" and "we did not force you to give birth."
          And they spend it EXACTLY so that people do not vote!
          And very successful in IT.
          Here I am, according to members of the forum, watching this.
          But everyone has their own right to choose, and their own free will.
          Sometimes slavery is chosen ...
          And with songs and dances.
      18. 0
        30 June 2020 00: 08
        MALADETs, go to the editorial office of Echo of Moscow or to Navalny, maybe they will buy you candy from their grants.
      19. KLV
        0
        30 June 2020 11: 03
        A counter question: who do you (exactly you!) See as president of the Russian Federation? Prime Minister? I ask for specific names, without the indistinct "Well, I don't know ... It's a matter of principle ... This is irrelevant ...".
    2. +13
      28 June 2020 10: 59
      It is strange that the author has turned from a "hippan" into a "sovereign", it strongly reminds me of a "training manual": "I never voted for Putin, but the ox is now ..."
      Friends, let's clearly define ourselves without political bias, what has the government done over the past 20 years, who has governed the country all these years? You can go through personalities, you can do their work.
      For example, I remember the Mir station, the privatization of RAO UES, Cam Ranh, Lourdes, the total rise in prices of everything and everything from year to year, the two-stage penny reform, at first the penny was taken away. savings, and then increased pension age, etc. can go on for a long time ...
      I would also like to note that the collapse of the Russian Federation is a bogeyman, there are no prerequisites for this, but if today's leaders continue their economic policy in the same spirit, it will simply die out, as the red-haired bit called “natural selection”.
      But these words I pity support:
      I no longer want to live the way they live there. I want to live as I like.
      and I’ll add that I want to live in a fair and prosperous country, where there are no poor, where there is a secured old age, where young people have prospects.
      Now, unfortunately, I don’t see anything of this! hi
      1. +21
        28 June 2020 11: 25
        Well, you don’t see it right ... price tags at the gas station to help you ... another breakthrough on the whole face-face ...
        today refuel at the miller ... 92nd plus immediately 70 kopecks. = 44,20 ... and the 95th is already under fifty dollars = 49,50 ...
        and July 01 has not yet arrived ...
        then after zeroing life will be even "more beautiful and more fun" ...
        1. +5
          28 June 2020 11: 54
          Quote: kepmor
          Well, you don’t see it right ... price tags at the gas station to help you ... another breakthrough on the whole face-face ...
          today refuel at the miller ... 92nd plus immediately 70 kopecks. = 44,20 ... and the 95th is already under fifty dollars = 49,50 ...
          and July 01 has not yet arrived ...
          then after zeroing life will be even "more beautiful and more fun" ...

          A zaputintsam do not care, as long as their ass was warm, just do not understand what it is for them nenadolgo.Ya remember 2018 after the adoption of pens.reformy many who voted "for" Putinism tearing their hair in all places, felts More will be.
          1. +3
            28 June 2020 12: 28
            Quote: Malyuta
            A zaputintsam do not care, as long as their ass was warm, just do not understand what it is for them nenadolgo.Ya remember 2018 after the adoption of pens.reformy many who voted "for" Putinism tearing their hair in all places, felts More will be.

            Unfortunately, many people have a memory like fish in an aquarium for 2 hours.
            1. -1
              28 June 2020 21: 41
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              many people have a memory like fish in an aquarium for 2 hours
              People with bird (4-hour!) Memory definitely have reason to be proud: they sit high on the evolution tree, they can spoil others ...
              1. +1
                29 June 2020 00: 17
                Quote: sniperino
                People with bird (4-hour!) Memory definitely have reason to be proud: they sit high on the evolution tree, they can spoil others ...

                Have you been bullied by people with bird (4-hour!) Memory? If so, I am very sorry to have to wrap myself around it.
                1. 0
                  29 June 2020 00: 24
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Have you been bullied by people with bird (4-hour!) Memory?
                  Campaign, yes, but this does not apply to you. I will not flow around, it’s better to swim and sleep.
          2. -9
            28 June 2020 12: 45
            Quote: Malyuta
            But the Zaputinites don't give a damn about it, if only their ass was warm, they just don’t understand that this is for them for a short time.


            based on reflections on the bubble and gasoline prices, it is not the zaputintsy who care about "the backside in the heat" but those who are against Putin and the amendments on the priority of Russian sovereignty. then emanate heart-rending squeals.
            Maybe you should raise a heel to the top and see the political situation around?
            1. +15
              28 June 2020 14: 13
              We can.
              Why do we see that a separate group finds everything in the trough, but the population does not find and does not find everything?
              Why is Vasilieva released a few days later and received silver coins conditionally, but a simple person sits down for a bag of potatoes for 6 years?
              Norm?
            2. 0
              29 June 2020 07: 56
              Quote: lopvlad
              Those who are against the Constitution, the main thing is the trough, and if they do not find something there for personal consumption, they emit a heart-rending screech.
              Naglits against the constitution laughing wink
              For example, I am against the current constitution, but even more against the wrecking amendments that they are trying to push through.
          3. 0
            28 June 2020 20: 32
            This is for those who honestly pay taxes and develop their business - forever, since nothing will hinder it, and if you and all of your people are sitting in shit and do not care at all, then this does not mean that everyone else should sit in these conditions like you.
          4. -1
            29 June 2020 13: 21
            Quote: Malyuta
            A zaputintsam do not care, as long as their ass was warm, just do not understand what it is for them nenadolgo.Ya remember 2018 after the adoption of pens.reformy many who voted "for" Putinism tearing their hair in all places, felts More will be.

            It will be for Kuyevlians for happiness. We know. wink
      2. -6
        28 June 2020 11: 38
        Quote: Malyuta
        I want to live in a fair and prosperous country where there are no poor

        That is, in Paradise.
        1. -4
          28 June 2020 11: 46
          Quote: Dart2027

          That is, in Paradise.

          But without Putin wassat
          1. -13
            28 June 2020 12: 11
            Zadolbali you writing heresy .chem your friend because Putin is not satisfied with it? This is the mantra straight "leburdy". You probably dream of paradise. And the reality of it though as it is not on friendly terms? Putin prevents him personally probably directly interfere. And .. and a few others? Nabiullina, Miller, so what is it? You take any, and the same write about him and about all together "all steal," bureaucrats zazhralis everywhere barracks and fall to come up .. Well ... to calm down if the anxiety is so high, see your doctor, and do not do yourself licking huskies these people are not very distant. It is ridiculous to look at your group therapy. Anyone who is not of your opinion would you spat. But I'm not of your opinion, and exactly the same people like you and I "for" amendment. And I will vote removed and my family will be. Since I do not have the opportunity to vote not remotely. I hate when you here of himself "all the people" portray. Rude not recommend it. Like crap code words "Without Putin" this favorite sayings all uporotyh "leburoidov".
            1. -14
              28 June 2020 12: 14
              And Sasha Rogers wrote everything right. And I followed exactly the same path of personality development as he did, as did millions of my fellow citizens.
              1. +6
                28 June 2020 13: 18
                Quote: tracer
                And Sasha Rogers wrote everything right. And I followed exactly the same path of personality development as he did, as did millions of my fellow citizens.

                Judging by the fact that you refer to trelodgers as an authority on your personality development, you dreamed.
                1. -8
                  28 June 2020 13: 32
                  Rogers is not an authority to me. This is for you the authorities are important. And just so that at least sometimes "the parasha will push." I draw conclusions in life not by order, but myself. So I can do without your opinion.
              2. +1
                28 June 2020 22: 01
                Quote: tracer
                And I followed exactly the same path of personality development as he did, as did millions of my fellow citizens.
                One of the rare articles here about the time of "developed socialism", in which you see the real life of young people in the USSR, and do not hear the program "Lenin University of Millions".
            2. +5
              28 June 2020 12: 23
              Quote: tracer
              Zadolbali you heresy write
              This is called "truth".
              Quote: tracer
              Why are you my friend so Putin does not like it?
              The fact that his actions lead to the degradation of the country.
              Quote: tracer
              Putin bothers him probably directly personally bothers. .. And who else? Nabiulina, Miller but what is there? You take anyone and write the same thing about him and about everyone together, "everyone steals," the bureaucrats got drunk, everywhere there is a barrack
              That is, you are aware of this, but all the same "for"? But...
              Quote: tracer
              Calm down if the anxiety is so high, consult a doctor, and do not lick the likes of your own kind of not very distant people.
              Do not tell me what to do and I will not tell you where to go.
              Quote: tracer
              It’s unpleasant for me when you’re playing "all the people" here.
              Bear the truth.
              1. -10
                28 June 2020 12: 28
                My friend, you got the truth with the phantoms of the not-so-healthy desire to hype on the site. For the mentally inadequate, their nonsense is true, but exclusively for them. But you will be cured, or orderlies will re-educate your reality. Swallow this pill and drink some water.
                1. +6
                  28 June 2020 12: 31
                  My friend, you have a TV instead of a brain, severe poisoning by nightingale droppings. Look around you, make an effort, bring your picture of the world in accordance with reality, not with the picture.
                  1. -13
                    28 June 2020 12: 39
                    I have many TVs, on asech 3 floors of my house, but there is no time to watch them especially. As well as hanging on the site endlessly. Those who really are doing something they are busy people. So you gudanul again in a puddle, as usual. Your measured punishment with impunity here on the site comes precisely from the fact that normal people just have no time to deal with you and put you in a stall in verbal battles.
                    1. +8
                      28 June 2020 12: 41
                      Normal people are on my side, but you are in the stall.
                      1. -11
                        28 June 2020 12: 44
                        Do you have a beer can and pension with a monitor? Not these are not people .. These are not living organisms at all, even though you are talking to them. What are you sad friend? Accustomed to yapping at anyone who is positive and good in life sees and does. Nothing, get used to it.
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                      10. +1
                        28 June 2020 13: 35
                        And what are you normal about, when you blamed the union, you were in the first sobs too, I wanted a different life, Borya came, also not that Putin came, and he is not needed, and who, last name in the studio
                      11. +4
                        28 June 2020 13: 45
                        When the union fell, I was too small for the front ranks, so the claim is not for me. And I just really would not want another collapse and revolution (for purely selfish reasons). In contrast, apparently, from the current powers that be, which are ruining the economy and embitter the population. It’s hard with surnames: the current camarilla makes great efforts so that the country does not know about new leaders. So for starters - Grudinin (he will disperse the Sechins with the Rottenbergs), and then we'll see.
                      12. 0
                        28 June 2020 22: 22
                        Quote: bk0010
                        for starters - Grudinin (he will disperse the Sechins with the Rottenbergs), and then we'll see.
                        To begin with, he will squeeze out their business, there is nothing to watch. Only he will not come, better wait for Santa Claus: this one always comes with gifts.
                      13. 0
                        28 June 2020 19: 32
                        Surname Ivanov.
                      14. 0
                        29 June 2020 04: 54
                        in the madhouse today is a day off. your team will definitely have a replenishment.
                    2. 0
                      29 June 2020 10: 51
                      What is your house? What are 3 floors? Storyteller.
                      1. +1
                        29 June 2020 11: 05
                        Quote: Varyag71
                        What is your house? What are 3 floors? Storyteller.

                        This patriot from Canada is scribbling.
                    3. -1
                      1 July 2020 08: 24
                      Quote: tracer
                      I have many TVs, on asech 3 floors of my house,

                      Well, yes, tell me what else is bought and not in a mortgage.
                      Quote: tracer
                      but there’s no time to watch them. As well as hanging on the site endlessly.

                      For that you quote Putin as if RenTV was watching without stopping. It's funny ..
              2. -3
                28 June 2020 18: 37
                Quote: bk0010
                Quote: tracer
                Why are you my friend so Putin does not like it?
                The fact that his actions lead to the degradation of the country.

                More specifically, what kind of actions can lead to the degradation of the country?
                1. +2
                  29 June 2020 00: 14
                  Of course you can: dial into a search engine, "the number of hospitals in Russia by years" (reduced to the level of the 50s), "the number of schools in Russia for years" (here the degradation is not so terrible, but constant), "Who retail chains belong to Russia "(Russian is not present, mainly the Netherlands)," The number of warheads in Russia by years "(2000 - about 6000 now 1550). And so I do not look - everywhere bad.
                  1. -1
                    29 June 2020 08: 07
                    Quote: bk0010
                    type in the search engine "the number of hospitals in Russia by year" (reduced to the level of the 50s
                    And what does it mean?
                    Optimization is not always bad, the number of hospitals does not always mean the number of doctors and even the quality of honey. services.
                    As an example, I underwent an operation, which in 1980 they undertook to do in three medical institutions of the USSR (they did it in Novosibirsk), and now it is being done in the not the largest regional one. According to the quota.
                    In the year I almost glued the fins - I needed urgent help, but if it weren’t for my aunt-doctor, I would have died 99% (this is about the quality of medicine). A good doctor should have been sought by friends. Like now. But now the technique also helps.
                    Yes, and another problem with your calculation: they used to stay in hospitals much longer, sometimes at times.
                    And I can throw an idea: count the number of leper colony in the 70s today.

                    Quote: bk0010
                    "The number of warheads in Russia by years" (2000 - about 6000, now 1550)
                    The United States, to start a civilian, enough is also 20. Next - the energy collapse and ...
                    1. 0
                      30 June 2020 00: 02
                      Quote: Simargl
                      As an example, I underwent an operation, which in 1980 they undertook to do in three medical institutions of the USSR (they did it in Novosibirsk), and now it is being done in the not the largest regional one. According to the quota.
                      Damn, well, 40 years have passed, what's so surprising?
                      Tell me, how will a cool medical center in Moscow help you if you are in a village in the non-black earth region, and you have phlegmon? But the simplest paramedic would help. And a woman giving birth, who would not have to drag herself to the regional center, would also help. And so for 90% of cases (except for really difficult ones). By the word "optimization" the Russian bureaucracy understands the process of taking money away from the people for themselves. Let them save on themselves. And to stimulate the process to make them heal where they work. Neither them nor their families should be allowed into Moscow and over the hill. We've ruined healthcare - let them die together with the people.
                      1. -1
                        30 June 2020 05: 50
                        Quote: bk0010
                        Damn, well, 40 years have passed, what's so surprising?
                        I would also recall the backwardness of the hardware, but let's not talk about that. But over 40 years it didn’t get any worse. With that, at least ...

                        Quote: bk0010
                        if you are in a village in the non-chernozem region, and you have a phlegmon? But the simplest medical assistant would help.
                        Do you yourself understand what you are writing? That's just the paramedics in the villages and put. Now they are trying to simplify all small-town medicine: emergency care, common sores, and something at least somehow complicated - consultation with a specialist or a district center. It is right.
                        Well, tell me: they’ll put a tomograph in the village, what will it do there? But depreciation is on, the specialist must pay a salary.

                        Quote: bk0010
                        And giving birth to a woman who did not need to drag herself to the regional center would also help.
                        Suppose birth with complications. Will the paramedic help? Not. But to ruin two lives - completely. Especially without equipment. See the statistics on child mortality. In addition, now pregnancy is very tight.

                        Quote: bk0010
                        By the word "optimization" the Russian bureaucracy understands the process of taking money away from the people for themselves.
                        You just don't understand what is being done. Well, okay: there is a hospital, not yet optimized, in a large village. Come there with a complex abscess, fracture, peritonitis, pregnancy (not you - you brought your wife) ... what will they do there if such people appear in this hospital twice a year? Will they smear it with green tea? Or iodine? And in the "optimized", at the specialist, you will be the third for today, in the morning. And in the optimized one you will be sick for 3 days, and in the non-optimized one you can give it to the oak, if you don’t guess in the optimized one.
                        Another thing - for the sake of show, this is done archly! But the number of doctors, so far, is one of the largest per capita ...

                        Quote: bk0010
                        And to stimulate the process, make them be treated where they work.
                        What's the point? The equipment in top clinics is now no worse than a foreign one, anyone can be prescribed a doctor.

                        Quote: bk0010
                        Health care has collapsed - let them die with the people.
                        If you don't understand, the elite are those who have access to better benefits than the people. And even 40 ... 50 ... 70 years ago it was the same. Well ... "Heart of a Dog" revise. Everything that is not related to Sharikov is more interesting (or did you not guess?).
              3. +2
                28 June 2020 22: 15
                Quote: bk0010
                his actions lead to the degradation of the country
                At the beginning of 2000 was the country so developed, and then degraded? Didn’t get drunk in the 90s, or something, nostalgia lifted you up ...
            3. +14
              28 June 2020 13: 27
              Quote: tracer
              But I'm not your opinion, and exactly the same people as you, and I am "FOR" the amendments. And I will be removed to vote and my family will be. Since I do not have the opportunity to vote not remotely.

              What is it? Of those patriots who live abroad?
            4. +13
              28 June 2020 14: 15
              That is, the norms are that the miller has millions per day, and even with the complete losses of Gazprom, and the middle class is 17000 rubles.?
              1. -4
                28 June 2020 18: 17
                Quote: Revival
                That is, the norms are that the miller has millions per day, and even with the complete losses of Gazprom, and the middle class is 17000 rubles.?
                Not okay.
                The question then begs another: who will do it differently? Are there any candidates?
                Name at least one amendment that guarantees that it will be better if you are FOR.
                If you are opposed, but do not go, why don't you at least neutralize someone's FOR vote?
                1. +1
                  28 June 2020 18: 38
                  I'm not for it, I'll go, this is my personal opinion
                  1. -1
                    28 June 2020 19: 02
                    Quote: Revival
                    I will go,
                    To those who are FOR and CONS: we have a very different country before 2000 and after 2000 with the same Constitution. Maybe we should use what we have? And if you change, then much better. Start with the constitutional assembly, at least ...
                    1. -1
                      28 June 2020 20: 17
                      Quote: Simargl
                      To those who are FOR and CONS: we have a very different country before 2000 and after 2000 with the same Constitution. Maybe we should use what we have? And if you change, then much better. Start with the constitutional assembly, at least ...

                      In my opinion, there isn’t such a big difference between the positions not to go and vote against. The supporters of both positions have very weighty arguments.
                      1. -1
                        28 June 2020 21: 08
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        In my opinion, there isn’t such a big difference between the positions not to go and vote against.
                        Not. There is a position - you have to go.
                        Otherwise, you vote for the opposite opinion.
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        The supporters of both positions have very weighty arguments.
                        This is math. The simplest. But not everyone understands.
              2. +2
                28 June 2020 20: 37
                Gazprom has a net worth of almost 13 trillion rubles - what kind of loss do you have to write crap.
            5. -1
              29 June 2020 00: 56
              So far, only you and your kind are rude here ... wink
          2. 0
            28 June 2020 12: 52
            Quote: Malyuta
            Quote: Dart2027

            That is, in Paradise.

            But without Putin wassat

            Why the word Пlowercase letter u Мcapital with capital? Is this a deliberate violation?
            1. -8
              28 June 2020 13: 00
              And why "Malyuta" would immediately take "Mazepa" for himself. Yes, and more suitable.
              1. +4
                28 June 2020 13: 15
                So who will finally explain to me why the hot topics published on VO appear on my phone after a few hours?!?
                1. -4
                  28 June 2020 13: 22
                  They can’t reach you ....)))
            2. -1
              28 June 2020 20: 20
              Quote: Clear
              And why the word Putin with a lowercase letter, and Malyuta with a capital? Is this a deliberate violation?

              I believe that this is a matter of respect or not respect for this character. I’m writing the same words Abromovich, Deripaska, Rotenberg with a small letter.
            3. 0
              29 June 2020 16: 41
              Quote: Clear
              then intentional violation?

              Nothing out of the ordinary - this infantile organism thus tries to assert itself in its own eyes, yeah. From the side, nothing but disgust does not cause. Yes hi
          3. -5
            28 June 2020 14: 26
            Quote: Malyuta
            But without Putin

            Putin is man, and Paradise is God's estate.
            1. 0
              28 June 2020 22: 49
              Quote: Dart2027
              Quote: Malyuta
              But without Putin
              Putin is man, and Paradise is God's estate.
              If this is a basic requirement, then God may not have problems with sending the newly-deceased to otherworldly service to different units: they say that hell is taken to Hell only by His order.
              1. +1
                29 June 2020 19: 28
                Quote: sniperino
                If this is a basic requirement

                These are the realities of life. I don’t know what in the afterlife, but in ours there will always be injustice and inequality, etc.
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          5. +1
            28 June 2020 18: 26
            Here one demand more insistently sounds - without Putin.
            Well, if only this, then it looks like paranoia.
            But isn’t it easier to get rid of Internet addiction and do something useful for oneself.
        2. +6
          28 June 2020 12: 05
          Not. IN THE USSR.
          1. -8
            28 June 2020 14: 27
            Quote: paul3390
            Not. IN THE USSR.

            I happened to find the USSR and I don’t remember something universal equality and happiness.
            1. +3
              28 June 2020 15: 49
              Quote: Dart2027
              I happened to find the USSR and I don’t remember something universal equality and happiness.

              But socialism could not guarantee you this; you apparently poorly studied Marxist-Leninist philosophy. However, now with our wild capitalism you have truly become happy - I congratulate you on the fulfillment of your dream. So smile more often, proving to everyone that life was a success, and all the remaining 95% of Russian citizens will be happy for you.
              1. -4
                28 June 2020 16: 03
                Quote: ccsr
                But socialism could not guarantee you this; you apparently poorly studied Marxist-Leninist philosophy.

                Then why the hell do you need it?
                1. +5
                  28 June 2020 16: 10
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Then why the hell do you need it?

                  But what for did you need a slave system or a feudal system? Maybe it’s better to immediately turn from the primitive communal system into wild capitalism - how do you imagine all this with your advanced worldview?
                  1. -7
                    28 June 2020 16: 23
                    Quote: ccsr
                    how do you imagine all this with your advanced worldview

                    Well then, why?
                    1. +2
                      28 June 2020 18: 25
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Well then, why?

                      This is a dialectic of development - study Marxism, everything is spelled out there, and socialism is only an intermediate link to your dream.
                      1. 0
                        28 June 2020 18: 41
                        Quote: ccsr
                        and socialism is only an intermediate link to your dream

                        Mine? Rather yours. That's just because communism does not shine for humanity; all this is a beautiful fairy tale.
                      2. +2
                        28 June 2020 19: 16
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That's just because communism does not shine for humanity; all this is a beautiful fairy tale.

                        Mankind has not yet matured to the understanding that it can disappear if it does not change its model of behavior. So perhaps humanity will change its mind when it comes to the edge of the abyss, although this is hard to believe.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Mine? Rather yours.
                        Isn't that what you wrote:
                        and no universal equality and happiness I don’t remember something.
                      3. +1
                        28 June 2020 21: 15
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Mankind has not yet matured to the understanding that it can disappear if it does not change its model of behavior.

                        The problem is that it's not about understanding, it's about biology. Humans are a biological species and they have a whole set of traits that affect their moral character. Yes, you can find a variety of people, both "bad" and "good", but humanity as a whole does not change.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Isn’t you writing

                        Wrote in response to a wish:
                        "I want to live in a just and prosperous country where there are no poor."
                        Socialism does not.
                      4. 0
                        29 June 2020 12: 02
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Yes, you can find a variety of people, both "bad" and "good", but humanity as a whole does not change.

                        An absolutely wrong conclusion - that you are no different from those who lived in the cave? Even the average height has changed, and you say that it's all about the "bad" and "good".
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        "I want to live in a just and prosperous country where there are no poor."
                        Socialism does not.

                        Gives, and it is socialism, where in Soviet times, almost all the country's population was provided with everything necessary. At least I don’t remember exactly that number of homeless people and digging in garbage cans.
                      5. +1
                        29 June 2020 19: 27
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Even the average growth has changed, and you say it's all about the "bad" and "good."

                        If we take those who lived in caves and feed as they do now, then their children will also change their growth.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Gives, and it is socialism, where in Soviet times, almost all the country's population was provided with everything necessary.

                        The minimum necessary and now almost everyone.
                    2. -3
                      28 June 2020 18: 42
                      At least then that the inequalities there are an order of magnitude smaller
                      1. +3
                        28 June 2020 18: 45
                        Quote: Revival
                        inequalities there are an order of magnitude smaller

                        Because everything else was less.
                      2. +2
                        28 June 2020 18: 53
                        It’s better to have no yachts and palaces at all than on a yacht, and because of this, someone cannot feed their fill.
                        There is no pride of the country for someone to have a yacht, but there is a shame for a country where a working person cannot feed their children to the fullest
                      3. +1
                        28 June 2020 21: 10
                        Quote: Revival
                        and because of this, children cannot feed their fill

                        Because of this or because of yourself?
                      4. -1
                        28 June 2020 23: 07
                        Quote: Revival
                        It’s better to have no yachts and palaces at all than on a yacht, and because of this, someone cannot feed their fill.
                        Your children are swollen with hunger, and you here "alaly" breed? It would be better if they went to xkh.ru, they would find a job there, they would feed the kids ... Or are you well fed here too?
                      5. -1
                        29 June 2020 00: 27
                        I do not have.
                        But, unlike you, I think about others ...
                        While
                    3. +2
                      28 June 2020 20: 41
                      They wanted to experiment to create a utopian society - but the experiment failed with blood with the same blood with which it started, although the scale was smaller.
      3. +18
        28 June 2020 11: 40
        Quote: Malyuta
        Friends, let's clearly determine without political addictions, what has the government done over the past 20 years, who has governed the country all these years

        Comrade, you need to take a little wider. And the question is longer. What did the authorities do from 1991 to 2000, and what could they correct from the tricked out thing from 2000 to 2020?
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 11: 48
          Quote: Fitter65
          And the question is longer. What did the authorities do from 1991 to 2000, and what could they correct from the tricked out thing from 2000 to 2020?

          One and the same team did all this, and this period is called ebnoputinism!
          Quote: Fitter65
          you need to take a little wider. And the question is longer.

          Wider and longer than the oligarchs' yachts, 65 lards for the pandemic period, so you have to manage so.
          1. +7
            28 June 2020 15: 07
            Quote: Malyuta
            Wider and longer than the oligarchs' yachts, 65 lards for the pandemic period, so you have to manage so.
            Now we agree that I.V. Was Stalin going in the right direction and was 1937 necessary? And everyone who had relatives abroad could not occupy leading positions. And now in our power only the holders of the passport of Mongolia and African countries are not present. That the mirror is to blame, in 1991 received all the democratic values, the main value of which has a name- IRREGULARITY !!!! And these values ​​were enshrined in the 1993 constitution. And at least someone sharpened what was guaranteed to us by the 1924 Constitution? And what did the 1936 Constitution guarantee us? According to which we lived until 1977, I remember the discussion of the "Brezhnev" constitution in the central newspapers, where every day they wrote about what the workers were proposing, and pushed the fourth article about the leading and guiding role of the party. But who discussed the 4 constitution? Besides the Borkin curators? But these oligarch officialsfatten thanks to this basic law ...
            1. -1
              28 June 2020 20: 31
              Quote: Fitter65
              Now we agree that I.V. Stalin walked in the right direction, and was 1937 necessary?

              In this regard, the cause of the industrial party is very revealing in 1930. And in 1937 there were many excesses.
          2. 0
            28 June 2020 20: 54
            They earned these 65 billion dollars on the stock exchange from the rise and fall of blue-chip oil and other things - there trillions of dollars spin from around the world.
            1. -2
              29 June 2020 11: 32
              How does it turn away from such lackeys, like you. Ready to justify everything.
              1. +3
                29 June 2020 19: 52
                And it turns me on from all squealers and whiners and sellers of every leftist.
        2. +1
          28 June 2020 16: 03
          The national debt was reduced. GDP increased. State reserves have grown almost 50 times. The army was restored. And yes - they began to build roads. Are you few?
          1. +1
            28 June 2020 18: 47
            State reserves for the elite are not cold not hot.
            “The budget will crack the people to help” that is all the “state reserves”.
            1. -1
              28 June 2020 20: 27
              And the ruble we just hold on? Or dollar interventions from the state reserve? Who are our favorites? Not employers providing hundreds of thousands of jobs?
            2. +2
              28 June 2020 20: 56
              But no matter how you do it, the same social group will help 7 trillion every year, along with benefits and pension subsidies next year, another 990 billion will be added to the PFR.
              1. +1
                28 June 2020 21: 28
                I mean help?
                At least poorly at a minimum allocate money for what should allocate?
                And here the word help, if it is an obligation
          2. 0
            28 June 2020 19: 37
            Why are the people getting poorer?
      4. +14
        28 June 2020 11: 50
        You’re not looking there. Ask Aeroflot:
        “The media learned about Aeroflot's luxury flights abroad despite the quarantine.
        The airline continued to carry passengers in June to Europedespite the international air traffic shut down due to a coronavirus pandemic, Vedomosti reported. It was possible to fly away, in particular, to New York, Paris and London."


        Read more at RBC:
        https://www.rbc.ru/business/25/06/2020/5ef423799a7947830e1560a4

        "in Frankfurt am Main, Paris, London, New York, Seoul and Tel Aviv.
        ... a weekly flight to Nice and two to Barcelona, ​​last week there were also two flights to Rome. "
      5. +7
        28 June 2020 12: 05
        Quote: Malyuta
        first took away the pension. accumulation, and then still increased pension age, etc. You can continue for a long time ...

        Not so simple. There is still a moratorium on indexing pensions for working retirees ... There are also:
        Since 2012, the so-called decreasing coefficient has been introduced to calculate military pensions for military pensioners and persons equated to them, “thanks to which” military pensioners have ceased to receive the full amount of military pension.

        Yes
      6. +16
        28 June 2020 12: 07
        Quote: Malyuta
        I want to live in a fair and prosperous country, where there are no poor, where there is a secured old age, where young people have prospects.


        there are poor in any country, but there were no beggars and homeless people in the USSR, unlike Western countries. When showing and talking about Western well-being to the citizens of the USSR, they forgot to explain that not everyone can afford it in the West. "by train to the big city for chocolates and doctor's sausage, but the fact that you only have money in your pocket to pay for communal services and other extortions of the capitalist system for a month. Having received vacation pay, most Russians cannot afford to take them to resorts, unlike citizens of the USSR.

        The funny thing is that what you want has never been and will not be implemented in any capitalist country, and most of all, the USSR has approached your "Wishlist".
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 16: 10
          There were homeless people in the USSR, there were. True, they were exiled or imprisoned from cities over the 101st kilometer under Article 209. And about the electric trains "free" you bent, those in the scoop were not. From Kalinin to Moscow for sausage, the ride cost 2 rubles 5 kopecks, almost as much as a kilo of this sausage, the journey cost
        2. +2
          28 June 2020 18: 39
          Quote: lopvlad
          here the beggars and homeless people were not in the USSR, unlike the western countries
          Oh how! Right?
          And in what period of time did they disappear? The same homeless children - did everyone live by registration directly?
          For parasitism - an article, no registration - no official work ... "pitchfork".
          Quote: lopvlad
          Showing and telling about Western well-being, citizens of the USSR forgot to explain that not everyone can afford it in the West
          It is even funnier: people from abroad were carrying goods that were much ahead of "soviet" consumer goods in quality, so it seemed to people that everything was "in chocolate" over the hill (one of the reasons).
          Quote: lopvlad
          The fact that, having received vacation pay, the majority of Russians cannot afford to go to the resorts in them, unlike the citizens of the USSR.
          I know those who every year on the World Cup chased the coast, and who could never afford it. It was different.
          Now it’s worse, but very many can afford a few days. For example, I spent 20 thousand rubles for 10 days, and 200 thousand rubles per month (+ road, but I’m far away, for two).
          As then, and now, most of the World Cups have not seen, but then much more was available!
          Now for two salaries you can fly abroad for 10 days, and then? How many minimum salaries were needed for a similar rest at the World Cup?
      7. -3
        28 June 2020 12: 17
        Quote: Malyuta
        Now, unfortunately, I don’t see anything of this!

        Poor thing. The garbage can, in which he was digging, was crushed?
        Rate your property at American prices. Just do not compare the plywood-foam hut, covered with beautiful paper, and a stone house with a stone house, the land of a summer house at the price of the land of a suburb of New York.
        1. -9
          28 June 2020 12: 52
          Have you ever been under this New York at least once? Did you see everything yourself? Watched the prices? And the new town houses on the water across the Hudson Bay? Is it a stone house in America? A specialist in the Americas ..
          1. +9
            28 June 2020 13: 00
            Foam plywood? Without heating? Yes, even if they are at least 200 square meters in gilded paper and a synthetic winter bow on top - it’s the hut.
            And a stone house, on a plot of 10 acres, within the city, with gas, water and optical Internet - will Sykoko pull in the USA? 20 million in dollars?
            1. -9
              28 June 2020 13: 20
              And why are you attached to the dollar? Do you get a salary in dollars? Taxes too? It depends on which city and area. But good houses in good areas are very expensive like everywhere else.
              1. +3
                28 June 2020 16: 11
                Quote: tracer
                Do you get a salary in dollars? Taxes too?

                And in what currency do you measure our poverty. Smelt in the mounds?
                As far as I understand, $ 1000 sounds to you like news from aliens. So alien that the news that the Japanese homeless pays $ 0,8 x 3 m 1000 dollars per month for a closet testifies to the unprecedented luxury that the Japanese homeless can afford. Although in Russia $ 1000 a month is the rent for a six-room two-level apartment.
                1. 0
                  28 June 2020 16: 46
                  I am well off by overseas standards, and only then yours all the more. But this is the product of my efforts and work with study.
                  1. 0
                    1 July 2020 08: 42
                    Quote: tracer
                    I am well off by overseas standards, and only then yours all the more.

                    Is it rutabaga or something? So it is not accessible to everyone in Russia.
                    Quote: tracer
                    But this is the product of my efforts and work with study.

                    Studying at the ballet academy, which is in St. Petersburg, or working as a whistle at VO?
      8. -2
        28 June 2020 16: 27
        For example, I remember
        I add, despite the fact that the people declared patriotism of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation continues to be invested in American securities. Well, do not invest in building schools
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 21: 08
          And how many of these investments there are in US US securities - 6,5 billion compared with investments of China and Japan over 1 trillion dollars, our investments are generally nothing. And in Russia every day they put into operation a dozen kindergartens and schools, new and renovated, and yes the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not deal with them - not in their jurisdiction.
    3. +11
      28 June 2020 11: 04
      A handful of countries use the lion's share of these resources.
      There’s not even a bunch No. . It turns out that the U.S. population is five percent the world's population, and they use 40% of Earth’s resources.
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      2. 0
        28 June 2020 18: 29
        "According to UN estimates, the material intensity of Russia's GDP is 40% higher than the world average, 4,2-4,5 times higher than
        in the USA and Germany, 7,6 times higher
        than in Japan, but 3 times lower than
        in China."
        1. +2
          28 June 2020 18: 43
          Quote: WIKI
          "According to UN estimates, the material intensity of Russia's GDP is 40% higher than the world average, 4,2-4,5 times higher than
          in the USA and Germany, 7,6 times higher
          than in Japan, but 3 times lower than
          in China."

          Victor, can I refer to the UN materials?
          A scientific article by A. Bashmakov, two years ago, I have already watched.
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          2. -2
            28 June 2020 19: 38
            Do you think that something has changed in two years? What do you mean by "using 40% of the Earth's resources"? For example, ExxonMobil has a stake in 21 refineries in 14 countries with a total capacity of 4,7 million barrels per day. Five of them are in the US (2 in Texas, one each in Illinois, Louisiana and Montana), 3 in Canada, 8 in Europe (2 in France, as well as Belgium, UK, Netherlands, Italy, Norway, and Germany), 5 in Asia (Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, Australia and China). They do, yes. But hardly all products are consumed within the United States. This is for 2016:
        2. +1
          28 June 2020 20: 30
          Quote: WIKI
          material consumption of Russia's GDP is 40% higher than the world average, 4,2-4,5 times higher than
          in the USA and Germany, 7,6 times higher

          Here we must look at the structure of GDP. For example, banking and lawyer services or copyrights are much less material-intensive than the production of goods or capital construction.
      3. -1
        29 June 2020 13: 13
        The Americans do not have the constitutional right of the wedding night for the president, but in the Russian constitution, as amended, they will!
    4. -7
      28 June 2020 11: 04
      Dear Colleagues! I must admit that I, in violation of my principles, did not go to the polls, but this is not an election either. Subjected his previously expressed thoughts to criticism and rethinking (not particularly strongly) - he went down voted for amendments to the Constitution! There are sensible and stupid corrections in my opinion, but I decided to be consistent in one thing - let the GDP rule more - I like the way the liberals are guilty, the Anglo-Saxons are guilty abroad ... Let the country governs the country better than what we get to -Never be a new democratically minded creative comrade up to the flag of the LGBT community under the state banner on the dome of the Grand Kremlin Palace!

      P.S. However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ... laughing
      1. +4
        28 June 2020 11: 18
        Quote: Finches
        However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ...

        And they forced her to be a wife, patamushta, she is a state employee and bring household members with her.
        Quote: Finches
        let the GDP still rule - I like the way that our liberals are contorted, how the Anglo-Saxons are controversial abroad ... It’s better that the GDP governs the country than we get to with some new democratically minded creative comrade

        With such shabby theses, you need to give up your pension and go to work on litter-tv, they pay well and feed well. hi
        1. +2
          28 June 2020 11: 22
          I, somehow, without your "wise" advice will figure out where I need to go! I am very saddened by the fact that my positive assessment of Putin's activities as the Russian state and my desire not to change him - because this is not necessary from the word at all, you don’t like it! Sorry!
          And I receive my pension not because "for" or "against", but because "captain's stars I served in full! Aty-bats! " hi
          1. +4
            28 June 2020 11: 51
            Quote: Finches
            that my positive assessment of Putin’s activities as a Russian state and my desire not to change him

            question! Next year he will not be, what will you do? Entrust your fate to the winds of surprise?
            1. -5
              28 June 2020 12: 51
              Quote: Silvestr
              Next year he will not be, what will you do?


              what will you do? will you blaspheme and stigmatize?
              1. -1
                28 June 2020 19: 44
                We will stigmatize the other, if there is any reason.
            2. 0
              28 June 2020 13: 36
              Quote: Silvestr
              question! Next year he will not be, what will you do?

              Indeed, the question is interesting. If the mighty Shogun is taken away by the spirits of their ancestors, then what will the samurai do? Will they use the Bushido code or become ronin ..?
              1. +3
                29 June 2020 16: 32
                Quote: serpent
                If the mighty Shogun is taken away by the spirits of their ancestors, then what will the samurai do


                need not worry about the samurai and the enemies and opponents of the Shogun. Remember the power of the United States in the late 80s and early 90s and compare their modern power?. When there is no enemy, the remaining army becomes drunk and degrades into dust.
        2. +4
          28 June 2020 11: 32
          are you fundamentally going to be rude to everyone who disagrees with you or is it just such an upbringing?
        3. +2
          28 June 2020 12: 00
          Wow! This I understand - the poverty of the spirit in all its glory! And the abomination of desolation (c) ... thoughts.
      2. +15
        28 June 2020 11: 21
        Eugene hi my compliments colleague! You know forever, or almost always in solidarity with you, but not this time. I'm not sure that the Anglo-Saxons are so distressed by Putin, rather they show us this and we want to. But, in my opinion, the Anglo-Saxons and so perfectly drink blood and resources from Russia. If you look at who, besides Russia, is the owner of Rosneft, Gazprom and others? And then there is Shell and some sort of "Tempikopetroleum" and many others. Hence the question, who is the national property of Gazprom, of which people? Is it really Russian?
        1. 0
          28 June 2020 11: 25
          hi Alexei! You see what the matter is - I wrote many times and am absolutely sure that changing the GDP for at least anyone, even for Jesus Christ will not lead to anything - that’s the thing! These are silly illusions ... I believe that the best is the enemy of the good! That's all! This is my life experience and understanding of the situation. Rearrangement of chairs in the office does not solve anything ...!
          1. +8
            28 June 2020 11: 34
            And here it is completely in solidarity! I am a man who lived both in the USSR and in the Russian Federation, I understand perfectly well that changing Putin to anyone with the existing system will not lead to anything good. Putin is just an embodiment of the existing world order of the Russian Federation. So he is not the worst option. Another thing is that the top of the USSR rotted in 70 years, and the top of the Russian Federation was born already rotten. However, the rotten top of the USSR, this is the current top of the Russian Federation. That is sad!
            1. +2
              28 June 2020 11: 35
              That's right!
          2. -3
            28 June 2020 12: 36
            Quote: Finches
            I have written many times and am absolutely sure that changing the GDP for at least anyone, at least for Jesus Christ, will not lead to anything

            You are mistaken. The psyche of the leader is a very important component of the country's prosperity. This is the USSR Gorbachev, and Russia of the 90s, and Zimbabwe, and the Baltic states. Now here is the USA. Changing the leader to a dull, stubborn promoter of his ideas often leads to the collapse of the economy.
            So let it be Putin. Which has nothing to prove in this life. In Haiti, he became a god, after the earthquake, his photographs were prayed for the salvation of his relatives, in Germany banners were hung in front of the Bundestag - "Putin, save Germany!", In Syria, his photos are glued to machine guns by Assad's soldiers. Evo's influence on the World is enormous. The Times even excluded him from the "Person of the Year" rating for many years. Only the second is now on the cover of the Man of the Year. fellow
            1. +2
              28 June 2020 12: 57
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              in Germany, banners were hung in front of the Bundestag - "Putin, save Germany!", in Syria, his pictures are glued to machine guns by Assad's soldiers. Evo's influence on the World is enormous.

              And what about us evo fans there?
              1. -12
                28 June 2020 13: 05
                Go to Syria there clearly explain to you. I’m afraid after that you will fill the tatuha with his portrait.
                1. +9
                  28 June 2020 13: 27
                  Quote: tracer
                  Go to Syria there clearly explain to you. I’m afraid after that you will fill the tatuha with his portrait.

                  I guess it doesn’t threaten me.
                  Have you had any experience?)
                  "And on the left chest is the profile of Putin,
                  And on the right ... "

                  And what, by the way, on the right? Assad or Olga Buzova?
                  ))
                  1. -13
                    28 June 2020 14: 26
                    Helicopter parachute and brigade. Got it? So under the bench ... yap.
                    1. +8
                      28 June 2020 14: 37
                      Quote: tracer
                      So under the bench ... yap.

                      Well, well, let's go without foam. The question was rhetorical. I, in fact, do not care what you painted your epidermis there.
                      1. -3
                        29 June 2020 12: 29
                        Yes, and he did not pass the service. it looks like he outplayed the call of duty.
                      2. -1
                        1 July 2020 08: 46
                        Quote: Varyag71
                        Yes, and he did not pass the service.

                        This character is still a fighter ... The most is not a real bread-sniper.
              2. -2
                28 June 2020 15: 42
                Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
                But what about evo fans there?

                Well, as Bee hints - filler for torture - believes Putin will protect. The executioners are furious with Putin because of the restriction of their rights.
                Once. from a year ago, I mentioned Guantanamo. The opponent replied: Well, I was in Guantanamo, and so what?
                Tea, French Samopal, also visited the torture chamber? With the most pleasant memories? In Europe, in bulk. Some are pierced, released alive. For which the ECHR ruthlessly fines.
                1. +2
                  28 June 2020 15: 46
                  Quote: Oo sarcasm
                  Well, I was in Guantanamo, so what?

                  as whom?
                  1. +3
                    28 June 2020 16: 23
                    Well, obviously not the one who is dipped in the bucket with urine. Otherwise, I would not have boasted ...
            2. +4
              28 June 2020 13: 55
              Sarcasmies. just say - I'm a Putinist, let him rule forever (again, there is enough room for two in the mausoleum), I collect postcards and newspaper clippings with his profile. laughing
              1. -6
                28 June 2020 15: 59
                Quote: Oleg Skvortsov
                just say - I'm a Putinist,

                Well, you can say about you that you are a morphist. More precisely, the militant of the Irish mafia, for persecute the interests of the Iranian-American mafia in Russia. The same mafia, which appoints from among its own the vice-chairmen of the USA - small farmers, actors, drunkards - controlling the Democratic Republican Party.
                Just imagine, from the day the US was founded, relatives became presidents. To Kennedy - Anglo-Saxon roots. From Johnson to Obama - Irish.
                And my beliefs - I always vote for the most impassable candidate. Bryntsalov there, Belykh. Remember those?
        2. -4
          28 June 2020 12: 55
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          If you look at who, besides Russia, is the owner of Rosneft, Gazprom and others? And then there is Shell and some sort of "Tempikopetroleum" and many others.


          Do you naively believe and believe that if you have a few percent, for example, Intel shares, then you are its owner?
      3. +1
        28 June 2020 11: 22
        Quote: Finches
        P.S. However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ..

        Bravo! The henpecked Putriot is the pillar of the new Russia! laughing
        1. -8
          28 June 2020 11: 26
          Such is the bum! Or, as they say, life dictates to us its harsh laws ... laughing
          1. +5
            28 June 2020 11: 29
            Life does not dictate a damn thing - it only offers circumstances.
            1. +3
              28 June 2020 11: 32
              This is Ostap Bender's phrase from "12 chairs" ... laughing hi
        2. +4
          28 June 2020 12: 38
          Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
          Bravo! The henpecked Putriot is a pillar of the new Russia

          Well, "Biden's Slave" - ​​sounds proudly for you !!!
          1. -10
            28 June 2020 13: 09
            "Well, take a look, Klim Chugunkin." "And there is nothing to believe." It's right about him. Everyone knows the author of the quotes. Although this "Abyrvalg" may not know.
        3. +1
          28 June 2020 13: 46
          Quote: Dr. Frankenstucker
          Bravo! The henpecked Putriot is the pillar of the new Russia!

          A real man, cho already there ... But not some LGBT!
      4. +5
        28 June 2020 11: 23
        Herein lies the essence of the enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR — you are ready to be FOR anyone and anything, in order to be AGAINST something or someone. And this hysteria about the amendments was not so much FOR them as AGAINST those who are against the amendments.
        1. -9
          28 June 2020 11: 27
          Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik! But you still don’t understand this ... laughing
          1. -1
            28 June 2020 11: 29
            Ha, well then explain - what are the Bolsheviks and the Communists radically different from?
            1. -2
              28 June 2020 11: 40
              There is such a joke - The Bolsheviks — those who saw Ilyich alive, and the Communists — those who saw him in the grave. This is a certain kind of metaphor in which the meaning of the differences between the modern Communists, who are not Communists at all, but opportunists, and the Bolsheviks, is clear! hi
              1. +4
                28 June 2020 11: 50
                The real, by convictions, Bolshevik communists and their supporters are those who are in favor of living in one big country, for Soviet power, socialism, a planned economy, and they never "saw", did not betray their party, the USSR and each other .
            2. -3
              28 June 2020 11: 40
              Will not work. There are many who declare themselves Bolsheviks, not realizing that it was possible to be a Bolshevik at the beginning of the last century. Now either you are a communist or not (take the "leftist" for yourself)
            3. +3
              28 June 2020 12: 59
              Quote: tatra
              How do the Bolsheviks radically differ from the Communists?


              laughing a question worthy of the Vasilyev brothers)
          2. 0
            28 June 2020 11: 43
            Quote: Finches
            Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik!

            "Zaputinsky Bolshevik" is remarkably funny and we will assign this "honorary title" to you. laughing
            Threat. I am very sorry hi , but I can’t understand how love for Stalin and Putin can fit in the same person at the same time? belay
            Can you imagine a hypothetical situation that in November 2020 the Bolsheviks will come to power in the country and what will they do with Mr Putin?
            1. -4
              28 June 2020 11: 51
              If the Bolsheviks come to power, then you and I will not leave the answer ... laughing
              And I respect Putin! Whether you like it or not, I am absolutely not interested in it, and I do not see any contradictions in respecting Stalin and respecting Putin .... I try, unlike you, to be objective in evaluating their actions as head of the state - and you don’t like Putin, because, apparently, it’s so fashionable, because there are no other objective reasons! hi
            2. +2
              28 June 2020 14: 12
              "Who are "we? Speak for themselves. Or someone - that has given you the right to speak for the people? It seems no one to speak for themselves.
          3. +11
            28 June 2020 11: 52
            Quote: Finches
            I’m not a communist, I’m a Bolshevik!

            some dissonance! The Bolshevik stands for the capitalist. Decide
            1. +1
              28 June 2020 15: 20
              Where do I stand for capitalism ?? Or, do you think that if I am not for the renegade Zyuganov, the red oligarch Grudinin and the clown Platoshkin, then I mean I'm for capitalism? I always wrote here specifically, and today I emphasized once again that since today a change of political leadership in the Kremlin will not lead to a change in the political and economic formation in the country as a whole, I see no reason to change the head of state that suits me personally in everything! hi
              1. -1
                28 June 2020 19: 53
                How everything in your brain mixed up.
                1. +5
                  28 June 2020 19: 58
                  This is my principled position due to life experience and the wealth of knowledge that exists ... as well as yours! So if you have something to say essentially, then write, and if not, then I don’t see the point in spending time on just phrases!
              2. -2
                28 June 2020 22: 02
                Quote: Finches
                Where do I stand for capitalism?

                you support the capitalist Putin, isn’t that enough?
                Quote: Finches
                since today the change of political leadership in the Kremlin will not lead to a change in the political and economic formation in the country as a whole

                the fact is that the change will happen anyway, although purely for physical reasons. And now the GDP is trying to preserve its inheritance. In any case, a new broom sweeps in a new way. Just what will these years cost you, me, our children?
          4. +5
            28 June 2020 12: 11
            Quote: Finches
            Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik! But you still don’t understand this ...

            What are you saying? What a complicated nature you have! fellow
            You are not a Bolshevik. You are from the majority, as here:
            1. -3
              28 June 2020 15: 22
              Right! The Bolsheviks - this is the majority, but you are a Menshevik or a Trotskyist, and so and so will not lead to better lives, but to the next political and economic crisis!
          5. -3
            28 June 2020 12: 40
            Quote: Finches
            Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik!

            And I am an anarchist. But I really appreciate the comfort. Therefore, he went - and voted FOR.
            1. +4
              28 June 2020 13: 29
              Immediately I remember about "..that will get both war and shame."
          6. -1
            28 June 2020 13: 25
            You are not a Bolshevik. You are an ordinary petty-bourgeois layman. Apologist for capitalism.
            1. +1
              28 June 2020 15: 15
              What I like is instant and categorical labeling! And he is in all white ... laughing
              1. -3
                28 June 2020 17: 33
                Well, I'm sorry if you croak like a petty bourgeoisie, you look like a petty bourgeoisie you behave like a petty bourgeoisie. That probably you are. By the way, you hung a label on yourself.
                1. +4
                  28 June 2020 18: 13
                  And courtesy, just not your hobby .... laughing You will poke your wife, if you have it of course ...
                  1. -7
                    28 June 2020 19: 38
                    Why am I supposed to be polite with such a short-sighted demagogue? To begin with, try a little less then and talk for politeness.
                    1. +3
                      28 June 2020 19: 45
                      Good luck, distant and highly cultured IS-80_RVGK2! Before that, I did not write anything worthwhile and now it doesn’t really work out in the discussion, but do not despair - everything will happen for you - you will grow up! laughing hi
          7. -2
            28 June 2020 20: 45
            Quote: Finches
            Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik! But you still don’t understand this ...

            What do you mean by the word Bolshevik?
        2. -1
          28 June 2020 11: 47
          Quote: tatra
          you are ready to be FOR anyone and anything, in order to be AGAINST something or someone. And this hysteria about the amendments was not so much FOR them as AGAINST those who are against the amendments.


          This is a masterpiece! What a phenomenal specimen of thought!
          1. -1
            28 June 2020 13: 14
            I remembered the incorruptible. "And today is tomorrow" ... V. Klitschko.
            1. 0
              28 June 2020 13: 33
              Quote: tracer
              I remembered the incorruptible. "And today is tomorrow" ... V. Klitschko.

              quite right)
      5. -4
        28 June 2020 11: 38
        We went to vote but the choice is different. By the way, it’s convenient that they were spread in time.
        1. +1
          28 June 2020 19: 56
          A strange picture, against Putin or something, because Putin calls himself a liberal.
      6. +2
        28 June 2020 12: 07
        Quote: Finches
        but I decided to be consistent in one thing - even if the GDP rules more - I like the way the liberals are contemptible, the Anglo-Saxons are controversial abroad ... Let the GDP governs the country better,

        Who would doubt that... laughing
        1. 0
          28 June 2020 15: 13
          And no doubt! You have your own point of view, I have my own - and this does not mean that they are both true! laughing But my advantage is that I live in an objective reality today, and you are trying to live in a world of illusions tomorrow ... I personally already went through this in 1991!
      7. +17
        28 June 2020 12: 18
        Quote: Finches
        mouth is better gdp governs the country than we get to with some new democratically minded creative comrade

        That's where I heard something similar. Oh, I remembered. Vote, otherwise you will lose. After all, if you do not put, ugh you, if not Yeltsin, then who? If not him, then the evil liberal will come, pah, commies, and will destroy Russia, the mother, beginning to flourish. And he, for a new term, with renewed vigor, uh, we all at once in bulk.
        A quarter century has passed. Flushing technology has not changed. How did they sing alice with basilio? Someone who doesn’t need a knife, you will show him a penny and .... The main thing is to explain to the sparrow sitting in the dung cake that he was not in the waste at all, but in a thick layer of chocolate.
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 12: 58
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          The main thing is to explain to the sparrow sitting in the dung cake that he was not in the waste at all, but in a thick layer of chocolate.

          I must admit you get it often.
        2. -4
          28 June 2020 15: 10
          Lannanne Shee, do you think something smart was said? Oh well! laughing
      8. -6
        28 June 2020 16: 12
        You have a reasonable spouse. Well done!
        1. +1
          28 June 2020 16: 37
          Thank you!
      9. +2
        28 June 2020 16: 44
        flag of the LGBT community
        it was under Putin recently
        LGBT activist Igor Kochetkov reports that the Federal Tax Service of Russia has recognized his marriage to a man
        are you for it?
        1. 0
          28 June 2020 16: 58
          Do the words of LGBT activist Igor Kochetkov seem to carry weight for you? It happens ... Just do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs! Be against Putin and that's all ... Only for whom are you "for", it is very difficult to understand! However, in Russian history, a certain part, especially a part of the intelligentsia, has always been against the official government and not because it did not agree or something else, but because it is such a nature!
        2. +2
          28 June 2020 21: 19
          And I report that Roscosmos recognized the existence of Nibiru - do you believe any garbage in the media?
      10. +2
        28 June 2020 18: 47
        Quote: Finches
        However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ...

        Something does not fit in with your love for Stalin, who did not spare his son, for the sake of his ideological convictions. Ava change them at the request of his wife. I wouldn’t go into reconnaissance with you.
        1. +4
          28 June 2020 18: 56
          There is also another side of the coin - would I go with you to scout! laughing In addition, you are still not attentive to what is written - because of this, you yourself will fail and let others down under the monastery!
      11. 0
        28 June 2020 19: 41
        I really like the way the liberals are frowning, the Anglo-Saxons fussing abroad ..

        So in spite of the Anglo-Saxons frostbite ears?
      12. -1
        29 June 2020 08: 14
        Quote: Finches
        There are sensible and stupid corrections in my opinion,
        Explanatory - which ones? I just haven’t seen such ones. Maybe blind. Please indicate!
    5. +8
      28 June 2020 13: 15
      We divided into those who are against Western influence and want to live in an independent country, and those who are for the West. Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents.

      Nothing like that. This is Staver, maybe he thinks so dichotomously, well, that's his business. If you argue objectively, you get not two categories (for the West and for our country), but rather.
      For the West; For the Motherland; For Putin; Against Putin, but for the homeland; For the Motherland without Putin, etc.
      For whom does the author keep readers? To reduce such a concept as "how many people - so many opinions" to "who is not with us is against us" is propaganda of the lowest level. Although ... after the next phrase it becomes clear xy from xy:
      It's expensive to watch our political shows.

      Who loves to watch the hysterical and heart-rending "experts" on the "political show" like 60 minutes, Time will tell or an Evening with evening Solovyov? Perhaps those who divide the world into black and white. Ours and not ours.
      PS The West is bad ... Good. But when raising the retirement age, the propagandists on the contrary cited the West as an example ...
    6. -5
      28 June 2020 14: 28
      I also voted for them.
    7. -2
      28 June 2020 15: 55
      Quote: ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
      I voted for amendments to the Constitution.
      Reply


      good And I.
    8. +7
      28 June 2020 15: 56
      What a disgusting little article, apparently paid.
      Benches behind garages with trash cans, is this clowning called "voting"?
      In the USSR, everything was for people, and not for a handful of friends and bureaucrats. That's all.
    9. -1
      28 June 2020 19: 34
      Quote: ANDREI MIKHAILOV_2
      I voted for amendments to the Constitution.

      Well then what? Now do not complain about what will happen next. It’s my fault.
    10. -3
      28 June 2020 21: 38
      Nothing wrong. In one country, many voted for Hitler. Even for the war and the extermination of others, not Aryans. You were not scared by what the president wanted to do in the USSR, and didn’t understand how? The expansion of living space, the sound of shoe heels, the clang of tracks and a beautiful cross for several months. Then they screamed - they deceived us! You need to think not in the gang, as one marshal said in one of the series.
      1. -1
        29 June 2020 16: 47
        Quote: zenion
        in one country, many voted for Hitler.

        I wonder what kind of dog business do the corrupt runners have here, changing their conscience to sausage? request
    11. +1
      29 June 2020 10: 21
      Quote: ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
      Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents.
      I also have trouble voting FOR. The author of the article
      Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents.
      that’s very true. And no cons on the VO website can change the simple truth,
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    1. -1
      28 June 2020 10: 21
      Yes, the campaign is not the author, but you sold
      1. +13
        28 June 2020 10: 23
        Why such a conclusion? The West always did not care about all the laws of the Russian Federation, including the constitution. And they never stopped them or embarrassed in the implementation of a variety of things.
        1. -6
          28 June 2020 10: 33
          Quote: Mastrer
          The West always did not care about all the laws of the Russian Federation, including the constitution.

          Do you really believe that? laughing

          "... Lawyers and jurists from all kinds of NGOs were in a hurry to provide" free "assistance. The USAID website still contains information about the amounts allocated for the reforms in the Russian Federation, and, in particular, for the legal preparation of the new Constitution ... "https://zen.yandex.ru/media/24history/pochemu-konstituciiu-rossii-napisali-amerikancy-5d418e38182b5800acf87fac
          1. +6
            28 June 2020 10: 35
            This is not a matter of faith. This is a damn fact. A fact confirmed by centuries of history. Irrefutable and indisputable, how not to rewrite history and how not to propagate the opposite - it is impossible to change.
            1. -10
              28 June 2020 10: 43
              Quote: Mastrer
              This is a damn fact.

              You know what this medal is:


              Do you really think that they, having defeated us in the Cold War, will let everything go by itself? laughing
              1. +6
                28 June 2020 10: 57
                Have you, like Misha the Sword, been awarded you too? Well, I never doubted.
                1. -1
                  28 June 2020 11: 00
                  Quote: Dalny V
                  Have you, like Misha the Sword, been awarded you too?

                  Why do you think so? laughing
              2. +9
                28 June 2020 11: 56
                Quote: Boris55
                Do you really think that they, having defeated us in the Cold War, will let everything go by itself?

                do not carry nonsense! Where have your deputies and Medvedev and Sechin and others set up alternate aerodromes?

                For them, everything has already ended long ago, and to you - about the war. Calm down! Without any war, world capitalism will decide everything through trade and supply.

          2. +19
            28 June 2020 10: 39
            Bring me, Boris, at least one case in the history of modern Russia when we, relying on the Constitution, sent someone nah .. And predicting the answer that now we will send everyone, refer to the norm and guess the situation when now we will send it to the "new" Constitution.
            1. -23
              28 June 2020 10: 53
              Hey. The current amendments are only the first step. In order to "send", the "Law on the Constitutional Assembly" is needed. Only a constitutional assembly is capable of rewriting Ch. 1, 2 and 9.i.e. make an evolutionary transition from one social system to another. It will not be capitalism or Brezhnev's socialism with a human face. This will be closer to Stalin's socialism, who built relationships in society before Christian Russia on new realities ...

              Regarding the impact of the Constitution on our lives. I hope you lived under the Brezhnev Constitution and you are able to appreciate our life with this and that.
              1. +7
                28 June 2020 11: 58
                Quote: Boris55
                The current amendments are only the first step.

                to absolute power for the next presidents! Or will each next write its own constitution?
              2. +8
                28 June 2020 12: 04
                Quote: Boris55
                This will be closer to Stalin's socialism, which built relationships in society before Christian Rus on new realities ...


                laughing This nonsense already borders on religious fanaticism. Can you tell us more about paganism "in new realities"? Will there be ritual sacrifices on the Red Square?
              3. +6
                28 June 2020 13: 34
                Quote: Boris55
                The current amendments are only the first step.

                This is ridiculous. With such an overwhelming number of patriots in 20 years, the first step.
                Quote: Boris55
                those. make an evolutionary transition from one social system to another.

                Lies from the first to the last word. These amendments are just trying to preserve the current state of the country that suits the power of big capital.
                1. -2
                  29 June 2020 08: 21
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Lies from the first to the last word.
                  This is not a lie, but the dreams of an ignorant. I put on pink glasses with blinkers and how let's dream right and left!
                  I could not write a comment - either mate, or neighing to tears ...
          3. +12
            28 June 2020 10: 44
            Borya, less pathos. Amendments are made for the nullify, not the new Constitution of the recipient.
            1. -25
              28 June 2020 10: 56
              Quote: Dalny V
              Amend for nullify

              Do you remember who brought them in?

              Personally, I want Putin to rule forever.

              Tell me, when you have a toothache, what doctor will you go to an old experienced or a young one without experience? Surely you would prefer an experienced one, so why when a health issue concerns an entire country, you prefer an unknown person instead of an experienced one?
              1. +2
                28 June 2020 11: 03
                God forbid, such a dentist, Boris) it overpowered here, it’s gone, it’s kind of, but it’s in my face: it can’t be, it’s in conservation, it’s in the bunker ... But I have a toothache, I know, the economy is falling. .
                1. -13
                  28 June 2020 11: 12
                  Quote: Dalny V
                  God forbid such a clove,

                  We can evaluate leaders at this level by how our lives have changed, taking into account internal and external factors. Do you remember which country he adopted? Is it better or worse? You have seen this picture for a long time:



                  1. +5
                    28 June 2020 11: 16
                    20 years old, Boris, 20 years old. Have your hair become longer or shorter in 20 years?
                    1. -5
                      28 June 2020 11: 21
                      Quote: Dalny V
                      20 years old, Boris, 20 years old. Have your hair become longer or shorter in 20 years?

                      It is useless to bring in new furniture.

                      The tasks that have been solved to date:
                      - did not let the country collapse:
                      - filled the budget with money;
                      - provided food security;
                      - defended the country from external enemies.

                      The rewriting of the constitution, i.e. protection of the state from internal enemies.

                      All these points are made in order and it is not possible to rearrange them.
                      1. +3
                        28 June 2020 11: 25
                        And now a list of tasks that have not been solved. And then somehow it died, five pieces, one in four years. For such a super-seeder, agree ...
                      2. -4
                        28 June 2020 11: 26
                        Quote: Dalny V
                        And now a list of tasks that have not been solved.

                        Our dreams will always be ahead of our capabilities and that’s right, but don’t need to ruin the country for lace panties.

                        ps
                        Only by setting unattainable goals can one achieve something.
                      3. +5
                        28 June 2020 11: 49
                        Borya, how much was the White Sea Canal built? What about Baikonur?
                      4. -7
                        28 June 2020 11: 52
                        Quote: Dalny V
                        Borya, how much was the White Sea Canal built? What about Baikonur?

                        Do you still remember what power was then?

                        In the meantime, the Constitution of Article 15 Clause 4:
                        "... If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty are applied."

                        By the way. A return to the "holy" 90s, if you do not change Ch. 1,2 and 9 of the current Constitution is quite real.
                      5. +8
                        28 June 2020 12: 00
                        Borya, were you born in the sandbox?
                        if by international agreement
                        that is, the parties agree. Now the Constitution prohibits doing this?
                      6. -10
                        28 June 2020 12: 04
                        Quote: Dalny V
                        Is the Constitution forbidden to do this now?

                        No it is not forbidden. Ratification of treaties is the Duma. To whom she serves, the picture below illustrates very well:



                        The amendments proposed by Putin radically change the composition of the Duma. Hence the amendment EP (Teteshkova) on zeroing, but to leave everything as it is.
                        The next Duma will be more about the Russian than this one - pro-Western, accepting and ratifying treaties in favor of the West and which we are then obligated to fulfill.
                      7. +4
                        28 June 2020 12: 19
                        Let's go over the thought again? The way its creator, Borya
                      8. -5
                        28 June 2020 12: 21
                        Quote: Dalny V
                        The way its creator, Borya

                        Putin in the adoption of the 1993 Constitution, on the basis of which the Duma is elected, did not take any part, from the word at all.
                      9. +7
                        28 June 2020 12: 33
                        Putin is both the creator and father of edra. I can copy our dispute six months ago, otherwise I can prove it lazily again. Do you mind
                      10. -2
                        28 June 2020 19: 00
                        What a stubborn librarian you are. Everything is straightforward according to the manual, "achievements - not to see and belittle, failures - to stick out and lie a little everywhere." Everyone is mistaken, including your beloved west.
                        For any sane person, it is clear that there are positive changes. Yes, we didn’t live happily ever after on Mars, but we don’t live on coupons as we did under EBN with external control. And this is better than the consequences of any color revolutions. Even the UWB are now bursting at the seams because of their "democracy". Or do you want a civil war? Are you sure that you and your relatives will survive after it?
                      11. +9
                        28 June 2020 12: 59
                        In 2008-2012, Putin, suddenly, was the head of EdRa.
                      12. -8
                        28 June 2020 13: 37
                        And so what? I will "suddenly" reveal something else for you. Well, understandable to you and the same level. You panties once peeped and the rest. And so what?
                      13. +1
                        28 June 2020 21: 34
                        Are you worried about my "pee" pants? Want to talk about them? Well, it's not for me. Coprophilia is the other way.
                      14. -3
                        29 June 2020 12: 43
                        Quite bored patriots. Already such a heresy is carried out that graduates of the exam seem to be academicians.
                      15. +4
                        28 June 2020 17: 04
                        did not let the country collapse:
                        as with gifts from Norway, China, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan? ..
                        filled the budget with money
                        Are you talking about money?
                        provided food security;
                        eat palm oil yourself.
                        defended the country from external enemies
                        Is this humor?
                  2. +2
                    28 June 2020 13: 38
                    Initially, the adherents of liberal capitalism, which include Putin, drove the country to the very bottom of the abyss. And then they gave her a little rise from the bottom and now they put it on their greatest merit. Not well done. Buy a goat sell a goat ..
                  3. +3
                    28 June 2020 16: 55
                    Do you remember which country he adopted?
                    This is so naive! Why did Putin set up the monuments to Yeltsin? For the fact that Yeltsin prepared all this for Putin.
                    First, the country was dunked in shit. and then a little lifting graciously allowed to breathe.
              2. +9
                28 June 2020 11: 27
                Quote: Boris55
                Tell me, when you have a toothache, what doctor will you go to an old experienced or a young one without experience?

                what an enchantingly stupid analogy. But if you really follow it, then an "experienced" doctor, who cannot be retired in any way, sanitizes your oral cavity with shaking hands to complete sterility - no teeth, no pain.
                1. -11
                  28 June 2020 11: 30
                  Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
                  But if you really follow it, then an "experienced" doctor who cannot be retired in any way

                  Who can’t it? 76% of the people who voted for it to be, and only a statistical error against. By the way. On the second day, we will once again see some people's confidence in Putin.
                  1. +4
                    28 June 2020 12: 14
                    Quote: Boris55
                    On the second day, we will once again see some people's confidence in Putin.

                    Of course we will see! At first so ...

                    then so ...
                    1. -9
                      28 June 2020 12: 16
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      Of course we will see!

                      Do you know another way to find out the opinion of the people (Maidan - not to offer)? laughing
                      How many cases did people who disagree with the results of the vote win?
                      1. +3
                        28 June 2020 12: 20
                        Quote: Boris55
                        Do you know another way to find out the opinion of the people (mayday - not to offer)?

                        in the buffet? Or maybe at the station? Or maybe ... nodding in the box is enough? laughing
                      2. -7
                        28 June 2020 13: 39
                        You are still too young to draw any conclusions. Judging by your photo.
                    2. +1
                      28 June 2020 21: 29
                      You are this garbage - an error on the report chart on elections to the State Duma dated from 2011 will be post for a long time?
                      1. -2
                        28 June 2020 21: 44
                        This very "mistake in the diagram" is a symbol of Putin's power. Takshta ...
                      2. +1
                        29 June 2020 20: 11
                        Your mistakes would not have anything at all - there to see everything without errors working all my life. Do not make brains.
                  2. +5
                    28 June 2020 12: 29
                    Quote: Boris55
                    On the second day, we will once again see what kind of trust the people of Putin have.

                    On the second, we will see what result can be achieved in the absence of observers from the opposition; storage of ballots in safe envelopes, voting within 7 days, the introduction of electronic voting (trial), the preparation of polling stations and the fostering of commission members.
                2. +3
                  28 June 2020 11: 31
                  Do not say this to Boris. Let it go.
                3. -6
                  28 June 2020 13: 17
                  Quote: Dr. Frankenshtuzer
                  But if you really follow it, then an "experienced" doctor, who cannot be retired in any way, sanitizes your oral cavity with shaking hands to complete sterility - no teeth, no pain.


                  You probably do not understand the essence of the president's work. His task is not to "pull teeth" himself, but to make the correct diagnosis. In order to "pull teeth" he has subordinates.
                  But to make the correct diagnosis and develop the right methods of treatment with an experienced doctor, even with shaking hands, the probability is several times higher than that of a young inexperienced intern with strong hands.
              3. +5
                28 June 2020 11: 59
                Quote: Boris55
                which doctor will you go to an old experienced or a young one without experience?

                and an experienced doctor’s hands do not tremble? Are there thoughts in the brain? Is he sick?
                There is a proverb in medical circles: look for the old teacher and the young doctor.
                The old horse does not spoil the furrow, but does not plow deeply either
                1. -9
                  28 June 2020 12: 11
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  There is a proverb in medical circles: look for the old teacher and the young doctor.

                  Start saving money for the false jaw. laughing
                  1. +4
                    28 June 2020 12: 13
                    Quote: Boris55
                    Start saving money for the false jaw.

                    can I help you? I can protege, whatever. laughing
                    At least a false jaw, even a plate in the skull, even legs instead of arms. Corporate is called laughing
                2. -2
                  28 June 2020 13: 25
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  There is a proverb in medical circles: look for the old teacher and the young doctor.


                  if we are talking about a new type of experimental treatment, then yes, but if it is a dozen years of routine surgery, it’s better to have an experienced teacher than a young doctor who only has to collect his personal patient cemetery for experience. And you don’t have to convince young doctors to learn from corpses they study precisely on you and me alive.
              4. +1
                28 June 2020 12: 24
                Quote: Boris55
                Tell me, when you have a toothache, what doctor will you go to an old experienced or a young one without experience? Surely prefer experienced

                Your "experienced dentist" before you call yourself a doctor who healed and pulled out?
                They picked up a comparison, a direct suspicion arose: you are really Boris or Boris. And if you had a case of compulsory motor third-party liability insurance and you went with your policy where you should, and they say to you: “Sorry. Only within 10 "... How do you like that? Or do you come to the registry office and after registration you find under the veil instead of your chosen one the face of an elderly aunt? belay
              5. +5
                28 June 2020 12: 39
                Boris55 (Boris) Today, 10: 56
                Personally, I want Putin to rule forever.

                Tell me, when you have a toothache, what doctor will you go to an old experienced or a young one without experience?


                You see, along with old age, wisdom and experience do not always come.
                Often, with old age comes only one insanity. wink
            2. -3
              28 June 2020 11: 23
              Quote: Dalny V
              Borya, less pathos. Amendments are made for the nullify, not the new Constitution of the recipient.

              Seriously?
              1. -1
                28 June 2020 11: 29
                Yeah. The constitution is not changing that much. Googel to the rescue
            3. -10
              28 June 2020 11: 40
              I voted mainly for nullifying.
            4. -3
              28 June 2020 12: 43
              Quote: Dalny V
              Amended for nullify,

              Well, yes, but the priority of Russian laws over American ones was somehow not noticed.
              1. -6
                28 June 2020 13: 40
                It doesn’t matter to them. They didn’t read anything at all (I’m talking about amendments).
              2. -2
                29 June 2020 08: 38
                Quote: Oo sarcasm
                Well, yes, but the priority of Russian laws over American ones was somehow not noticed.
                What is there? I did not see.
        2. -4
          28 June 2020 10: 39
          Turn on your head - no way? A simple example: "the ban on alienating territories and even negotiating about it." There is no amendment - it will be the same as now: the nagging of Japan, the activation of the 5th column from the side of mattresses on this topic, etc. There is an amendment - no one cares about Japan, they can whine to the point of carrots, this is not an option, they will get rid of them at the very least (and against the background of how the mattresses are throwing their allies - all the more so). + mattresses will think 100500 times, connect their lickers on this topic (and lose them after their first show-off) or make a brick face, like they did not notice (so that there was something to muddy the water in other matters).
          1. +5
            28 June 2020 10: 43
            And you do not understand the surrealism of this amendment? The enemies of the Communists who seized Russia themselves forbidden to distribute Russian territories to other countries.
            1. -3
              28 June 2020 10: 47
              You are trying to pull an owl on the globe with this question. Where are the communists voiced above in my post? The conversation is not about communists, liberals, United Russia, etc., but that this hemorrhoids layer, which the West is playing now, is removed with this amendment, namely, screeches about indemnity, return of territories, etc.
              1. +3
                28 June 2020 10: 56
                That is, for you, Putin is not an independent figure, is he subordinate to someone? And do you seriously think that due to some amendment, for example, the Japanese will cease to demand the island? Where in my comment about the communists?
                1. -4
                  28 June 2020 13: 34
                  Quote: tatra
                  seriously think that due to some amendment, for example, the Japanese will cease to demand the island?


                  it’s not about what the Japanese, Bandera, Lithuanians and other countries want from Russia, but that, by the amendment on the inalienability of territories within the government and for the Russian government, to close even the potential for discussing the transfer of any part of the country's land or sea territory to another state .
              2. +4
                28 June 2020 13: 47
                Does this lack of amendments force the mausoleum to be enclosed with decorations every time? Hang memorial signs to mannerheim? To interpret the history of the USSR? Do the tablets make you accept pension reform in such a wretched way? Ruin medicine by optimizations? To ruin education and a lot of money to stop the hundredth edition of textbooks? Does this lack of amendment affect the growing stratification of property?
                1. -5
                  28 June 2020 15: 35
                  Does this lack of amendments force the mausoleum to be enclosed with decorations every time? Hang memorial signs to mannerheim? To interpret the history of the USSR?

                  Exactly because of this reason!
                  Unfortunately, within the framework of these amendments, the need to form a state ideology is not introduced. But we have to start somewhere, otherwise we will be sitting with a colonial piece of paper.
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                    2. -4
                      28 June 2020 21: 39
                      I would have removed this Mausoleum with the mummy altogether, would have buried Lenin humanly, and instead of the Mausoleum would have erected monuments to the same Russian commanders and generals with memos when they participated in which battles - from the educational point of view, there would be much more sense than from the pyramid with idolatry.
                      1. -4
                        29 June 2020 14: 16
                        Yes of course. You have such a Soviet past as a suitcase without a handle. It would be nice to speed it up altogether, but no matter how you try, it’s tightly tied. Kakbypatrioty worthless decommunizers. Another damn about Ukraine screaming, but you yourself are no better. Nothing historical inevitability for us, sooner or later we will send you to the dustbin of history.
                      2. +2
                        29 June 2020 20: 15
                        Don’t you pulsate like that - yours and everyone else has already been sent to the dustbin of history back in '91.
                      3. -5
                        29 June 2020 20: 20
                        Uh, no. They are yours, not mine. Your Yeltsin, your Gaidar, your Chubais. All adherents of the liberal
                        capitalism, anti-Soviet.
                      4. +2
                        29 June 2020 20: 43
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Your Yeltsin, your Gaidar, your Chubais.

                        Moreover, they are all members of the Communist Party.
            2. -13
              28 June 2020 11: 27
              Quote: tatra
              Enemies of the communists

              Oh again ... laughing laughing laughing And right there:
              Quote: tatra
              where in my comment about the communists?
              Everything, then the sound of the drain tank. wassat
              1. -1
                28 June 2020 11: 31
                If you are not able to refute my words, don’t engage in flood.
                1. -1
                  29 June 2020 16: 50
                  Quote: tatra
                  not able to refute my words

                  The refutation of your IT is not my prerogative, for this is already from the field of punitive psychiatry. Farewell, dump truck, and be you ... perhaps happy. hi
            3. 0
              28 June 2020 11: 53
              Ah, poor communists! The millionth detachment ripped off power ... a bunch of Democrats.
            4. 0
              28 June 2020 12: 13
              Quote: tatra
              Enemies of the communists


              and this, sorry, who are they? Can you give a definition to this awkward but funny term that is present in each of your comments?
            5. 0
              28 June 2020 12: 50
              Quote: tatra
              MYSELF themselves banned the distribution of Russian territory to other countries.

              But Ksyusha Sobchak, having become a candidate, went to dinner with the executioner Trump (Tortured, and we will torture! - Trump's election promise) and promised to give out Kem, Kuril, Crimean, Kaliningrad volosts to anyone who wishes. Who will offer cool lipstick.
          2. +2
            28 June 2020 10: 53
            Take your simple example. According to the legislation of the Russian Federation, marriage is a union of a man and a woman, no one is allowed to alienate the territory of the Russian Federation ... These are already laws, latent. But they, in surprise, are in no hurry to fulfill.
            1. -2
              28 June 2020 13: 38
              Quote: Dalny V
              According to the legislation of the Russian Federation, marriage is a union of a man and a woman; no one is allowed to alienate the territory of the Russian Federation


              if it is not spelled out in the Constitution, then each court can interpret these laws as a judge wants.
              1. -2
                28 June 2020 20: 32
                If it is not prescribed in the Constitution, then it must be registered. Let's go: the civil code, the administrative code, the family code, what is there further down the list? Oh, and do not forget the primer. And then each judge will begin to interpret
          3. +2
            28 June 2020 11: 06
            Quote: kot423
            Turn on your head - no way? A simple example: "a ban on alienating territories and even negotiating about it"

            And exceptions, your head is ignored?
          4. +7
            28 June 2020 12: 03
            Quote: kot423
            A simple example: "the ban on alienating territories and even negotiating about it."

            simple answer:
            1.In 2010, Russia donated Norway the waters in the Barents Sea. Giving her 175 thousand km².
            2. In 2011, the villages of Khrakh-Uba and Uryan-Uba were presented to Azerbaijan together with the population
            3. In 2017, Putin gave Kazakhstan Lake Sladkoe, Russian citizens immediately limited access to it.
            And who did all this?
            1. +2
              28 June 2020 12: 32
              This is not an answer, but a translation of the arrows. Or do you want to say that the amendment was adopted in 2010 and the president just put it on it?
            2. -3
              28 June 2020 13: 42
              Quote: Silvestr
              And who did all this?


              and now a counter question "Could he have done it if the Constitution had an amendment banning the transfer of land and sea territories of Russia to other states"
              1. 0
                28 June 2020 21: 53
                Easy. He is Putin. In every sense Putin. My question is: what would you do if he did it? (Sorry for the tautology)
          5. +3
            28 June 2020 12: 26
            Quote: kot423
            A simple example: "the ban on alienating territories and even negotiating about it."
            She does not prohibit anything, read the amendment in full. Declare the transfer of islands to delimitation - and all by law.
            1. -2
              29 June 2020 08: 42
              Quote: bk0010
              Declare the transfer of islands to delimitation - and all by law.
              They are already delimited.
              Re-delimitation and give it to whom you want.
              At present, at least the people should be asked ... but they are not asked.
          6. +2
            28 June 2020 14: 24
            It is strange to think that someone can be shown that the issue has been resolved irrevocably and finally, by amending the document, which, it turns out, can be amended at any time.

            Such an approach initially makes the value of all these amendments null. Therefore, the only semantic content of the procedure is zeroing Putin.
          7. +4
            28 June 2020 18: 04
            (yawning) bullshit. Not so long ago, three assholes in Belovezhskaya Pushcha showed where you can cram all the constitutions of the USSR ...
          8. +1
            29 June 2020 08: 39
            Quote: kot423
            A simple example: "the ban on alienating territories and even negotiating about it."
            I would vote. Is there such a thing?
        3. +4
          28 June 2020 12: 16
          Mastrer (Alexander Smirnov)
          Why such a conclusion? The West always did not care about all the laws of the Russian Federation, including the constitution. And they never stopped them or embarrassed in the implementation of a variety of things.
          ... good A simple example, to your words, On 22.06.1941, Hitler was not stopped by the Stalinist Constitution ... smile
        4. +1
          28 June 2020 13: 07
          Quote: Mastrer
          The West always did not care about all the laws of the Russian Federation, including the constitution.


          they again pulled the law from the tablets of liberalism written by the West for their adherents in all countries of the world.
          Just substitute the name of any other country for "RF" and go ahead.
          For example :
          The West always did not care about all the laws Venezuela including the constitution.
          The West always did not care about all the laws Libya including the constitution.
          The West always did not care about all the laws Syria including the constitution.

          The fact of the matter is that we don’t give a damn about any law or amendment to the Constitution that the West didn’t like, we hear condemnations and get sanctions.
      2. -10
        28 June 2020 11: 08
        Quote: Pytnik
        Yes, the campaign is not the author, but you sold

        It's funny to read the howling of citizens who are drowning for the "constitution" granted by Borka the drunkard. Not otherwise, they are worried that they will take away the glass beads of the white owners from across the ocean.
        1. +8
          28 June 2020 12: 05
          Quote: tomket
          It's funny to read the howling of citizens who are drowning for the "constitution" granted by Borka the drunkard.

          What has changed? His covenants are holy and fulfilled.

          Only EBN for the sake of its power shot the White House, but one can guess that what will happen next for the sake of power.
          And by privilege, Yeltsin never dreamed of such a thing! Space!
          1. -1
            28 June 2020 18: 07
            Further there will be a presidential term. For the current mockery without an early presidential election may give the wrong result ... And another 4 years ... And the GDP is aging, and this oh, how noticeable ...
            1. 0
              28 June 2020 20: 17
              I also noticed - the grandfather was the grandfather.
            2. +3
              29 June 2020 16: 42
              Quote: Alien ...
              And GDP is aging


              whether the case in the West is all young. Pioneers by age Trump and against him are Biden boy and girl Hilary and in Germany Komsomol member Merkel.
        2. -2
          28 June 2020 12: 52
          Quote: tomket
          Quote: Pytnik
          Yes, the campaign is not the author, but you sold

          It's funny to read the howling of citizens who are drowning for the "constitution" granted by Borka the drunkard. Not otherwise, they are worried that they will take away the glass beads of the white owners from across the ocean.

          Well, most of them remained outside the borders of Russia, and they stoke for the DESTRUCTION of Russia. And whoever is against the destruction of Russia is the padded jacket and was.
      3. +1
        28 June 2020 11: 10
        Today, in the age of information technology, it has become more difficult to deceive.
        Some of the old emigrants said that "... having lived for a certain time in the United States, I realized that what the Pravda newspaper wrote about America turned out to be true!" crying
        1. -2
          28 June 2020 13: 43
          I confirm the wisdom.
    2. -10
      28 June 2020 10: 27
      West just do deep shit on the constitution of the Russian Federation. From the word at all.

      On the contrary, the Anglo-Saxons would very much like to turn our constitution into the constitution of a banana republic controlled by the United States.
      Only now, the US State Department officially recognized that in 1993 the Constitution of the Russian Federation, as well as a number of key laws of our country, were written by American advisers.

      https://www.kramola.info/vesti/metody-genocida/konstituciju-rossii-pisali-v-ssha
      1. +12
        28 June 2020 10: 34
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        On the contrary, the Anglo-Saxons would very much like to turn our constitution into the constitution of a banana republic controlled by the United States.

        They do not care about our constitution, they need resources and preferably for free. Strongly disturbed by the laws of the slave owners of some African tribe?
        1. -10
          28 June 2020 10: 37
          And in order to get to the resources it is necessary to conquer the people by enslaving it ... this is done in a variety of ways, including by replacing the constitution of a foreign people with a constitution where laws destroy this people.
          1. +10
            28 June 2020 10: 42
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            And in order to get to the resources it is necessary to conquer the people by enslaving it ... this is done in a variety of ways, including by replacing the constitution of a foreign people with a constitution where laws destroy this people.

            Here is a good answer below, if traffic rules are written in the constitution, will accidents become less?
            1. -10
              28 June 2020 10: 44
              This is your suggestion ... I didn’t say that ... so don’t need la la ... ride on the ears.
              1. +6
                28 June 2020 10: 45
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                This is your suggestion ... I didn’t say that ... so don’t need la la ... ride on the ears.

                This is not an offer, this is an analogy.
                1. -9
                  28 June 2020 10: 50
                  And to me on the drum ... you expressed this analogy ... then this is your thought.
                2. -4
                  28 June 2020 11: 14
                  [quote = aleksejkabanets] [quote = The same LYOKHA] This is your proposal ... I didn't say that ... so don't la la ... go over your ears. [/ quote]
                  [quote] This is not a sentence, this is an analogy. [/ quote] [/ quote]
                  What is the analogy when you clearly evaluate [quote] quote = aleksejkabanets] Here is a good answer below [/ quote] [/ quote]
                  1. -5
                    28 June 2020 11: 43
                    Clear smile
                    Well, you graduated ... what did you want to say?
                    1. -4
                      28 June 2020 11: 48
                      Quote: The same Lech
                      Clear smile
                      Well, you graduated ... what did you want to say?

                      Alexey, sorry something did not work with formatting request
                      I wanted to say that this is not an analogy, but an assessment ...
                      1. -1
                        28 June 2020 11: 49
                        Understand... smile ... please just lay out your thoughts rather than strangers ... so I understand you more. hi
                      2. -1
                        28 June 2020 11: 50
                        Quote: The same Lech
                        Understand... smile ... please just lay out your thoughts rather than strangers ... so I understand you more. hi

                        I will correct
                      3. 0
                        28 June 2020 12: 20
                        Quote: Clear
                        Quote: The same Lech
                        Clear smile
                        Well, you graduated ... what did you want to say?

                        Alexey, sorry something did not work with formatting request
                        I wanted to say that this is not an analogy, but an assessment ...

                        The words "This is a good answer below", I mean the answer Ragnar Lodbrok, about traffic rules, only his severely koment down left. The words "if the regulations prescribe the Constitution, the accident will be less?" means the issue, which has been set to an opponent, that would show the fallacy of its conclusions. So that no evaluation is not here, and I did not mean to enter into the constitution regulations, there and without it, a lot of which is injected.
                  2. -1
                    28 June 2020 11: 49
                    [quote = Clear] [quote = aleksejkabanets] [quote = The same LEKHA] This is your suggestion ... I didn’t say that ... so don’t need la la ... ride around my ears. [/ quote]
                    [quote] This is not a sentence, this is an analogy. [/ quote] [/ quote]
                    What is the analogy when you clearly evaluate [quote] quote = aleksejkabanets] Here is a good answer below [/ quote] [/ quote] [/ quote]
                    I did not understand what you wanted to say.
            2. -7
              28 June 2020 14: 04
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              if traffic rules are written in the constitution, will accidents become less?


              No, it will not. But responsibility for violation of traffic rules will no longer be disgusted.

              Do you think that if the Constitution of the Russian Federation prescribes that the minimum term for an accident as a result of which one person died with all extenuating circumstances cannot be less than 5 years of actual imprisonment in a penal colony, some judge would risk conditionally giving Efremov, for example?
              Any judge acts within the framework of laws and amendments to them. Allows the law and its amendments to be sentenced to a suspended sentence for the theft of nearly 200 million Serebryakov, he will receive a suspended sentence and there will be a ban on suspended sentences for cases involving the theft of public funds and Serebryakov will go on real bunks.
          2. +8
            28 June 2020 12: 11
            And in order to get to the resources it is necessary to conquer the people by enslaving it ... this is done in a variety of ways, including by replacing the constitution of a foreign people with a constitution where laws destroy this people.
            .... In 1993, they enslaved me, when more than 50% voted for the Constitution, under the fireworks of the parliament firing ... They voted, just do not say no ... As many say now, it was necessary ... like everyone else. ..I voted against, "Western agent and American foster child." laughing
            1. 0
              29 June 2020 16: 44
              Quote: parusnik
              I voted against


              what do you prove?
        2. +18
          28 June 2020 10: 40
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Strongly disturbed by the laws of the slave owners of some African tribe?

          That's right! In the Constitution (by anology) you can register traffic rules that suck will not mean unquestioning and obligatory fulfillment by everyone and everything ...
        3. -6
          28 June 2020 13: 49
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          They do not care about our constitution, they need resources and preferably for free.


          in order to take away our resources and territories from us, the Constitution of the Russian Federation must allow this. And that is why they need the 1993 Constitution of the Russian Federation in an unchanged form. They would not care about the contents of the Constitution of the Russian Federation if they had the opportunity to crush Russia militarily. But such an opportunity not.
          There remains the only opportunity to feed and train rats within Russia, and they, in turn, will require the adoption of certain laws for the collapse of Russia.
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    4. +10
      28 June 2020 10: 31
      Quote: Mastrer
      How much did the author sell the ass?

      Maybe he didn’t sell at all, but he’s just lying, out of “love for art”. But seriously, it is a completely false and clearly ordered article.
      1. +4
        28 June 2020 10: 53
        In this commentary, an unprinted word is quoted. Comment not deleted? So, such a technique as quoting other people's swear words is completely legitimate?
        1. +6
          28 June 2020 13: 35
          Quote: WertGan
          In this commentary, an unprinted word is quoted.

          If you are concerned about the word "ass" - then it is quite literary and printed. hi
          Ozhegov S.I. and Shvedova N. Yu.
          Explanatory Dictionary of the Russian Language: 80000 words and phraseological expressions / Russian Academy of Sciences. Russian Language Institute V.V. Vinogradova. -4th ed., Revised. - M .: LLC “A TEMP *, 2006.-944 p.
          ISBN 978-5-9900358-6-7
          page 195


          Threat. As a bonus. Musical pause. laughing
          1. +1
            29 June 2020 16: 48
            Quote: Freeman
            then it is quite literary and printed.


            just one of the literary and printed broadcast comments and nothing else.
      2. +3
        28 June 2020 11: 16
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        But seriously, it’s a completely false and clearly custom-made article.

        Let’s deal, where is the lie, who is the customer. Or are you not responsible for your words?
        1. +4
          28 June 2020 12: 09
          Quote: tomket
          Let's get the case where the lie

          For example, the article says "And the most important" filler "in the sausage was paper ...". Take a look in Konnikov's book "Sausages and Smoked Meat", there are GOSTs according to which meat-packing plants worked, deviation from GOSTs was considered a crime. (http://lehih80.blogspot.com/2018/04/1938.html) Naturally GOSTs changed, the last were Brezhnev's GOSTs, as far as I remember, there is also no concept of "filler". Various fillers, in the form of soy and wheat isolates, appeared only in Yeltsin's Russia. But even then, no technologist would ever think to add paper there. They stole at meat-packing plants, mainly by increasing the humidity of sausages. Those. roughly speaking, more water was poured into the minced meat or emulsion. There are so many blunders that if they all take apart it will take a lot of time
          Quote: tomket
          who is the customer.

          As they say in law enforcement, "you do not know who the customer, look who benefits from it."
          1. +2
            28 June 2020 21: 47
            Directly in the USSR, GOSTs were observed for all products - there were a lot of marriages and often to fulfill the plan GOSTs were neglected and sausages began to be chemized in 68, they didn’t do the best prescription of the 37th year because it required too much in the products.
            1. +1
              29 June 2020 00: 07
              Quote: Vadim237
              Directly in the USSR, GOSTs were observed for all products - there were a lot of marriages and often to fulfill the plan GOSTs were neglected and sausages began to be chemized in 68, they didn’t do the best prescription of the 37th year because it required too much in the products.

              I repeat, in the USSR GOSTs were respected, otherwise, criminal punishment followed, with intent, of course. After all, I wrote that GOSTs changed, however, soy and wheat isolates were not added. As far as I remember, only when Brezhnev was allowed to add phosphates.
              1. +3
                29 June 2020 08: 53
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                As far as I remember, only under Brezhnev was allowed to add phosphates.
                According to GOST. Mutili differently. There was a lot of marriage.
          2. +3
            29 June 2020 08: 51
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            deviation from GOSTs was considered a crime
            There was a newsreel "Fitil". browse, be surprised.
      3. +3
        28 June 2020 12: 05
        Not lying and not ordered ... The author writes the truth about himself. Such as he: "More than anything in the world I love stately men, apple pie and the name Roland" (c), it was full. I saw such at perestroika rallies. . They took care. "Bender did not allow to beat" (c).
    5. +1
      28 June 2020 10: 42
      If the West didn’t give a damn, he wouldn’t have paid a bunch of jackal
  3. +2
    28 June 2020 10: 18
    There was no question in the bulletin: "Do you want your country to collapse"? YES. NO.
  4. +13
    28 June 2020 10: 18
    I wrote a lot of words and the case is not enough
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 11: 15
      Quote: Clever man
      I wrote a lot of words and the case is not enough

      Now, if they wrote emoticons, post some kind of picture. That would be the case! No need to read, no need to think. Right?
      1. +2
        28 June 2020 13: 46
        On the fence is also written
        1. +1
          28 June 2020 17: 49
          Quote: Clever man
          On the fence is also written

          So I see that you have a fence the main source of information
  5. -11
    28 June 2020 10: 18
    Vote FOR !!! Vote for RUSSIA !!
    1. +15
      28 June 2020 10: 40
      Quote: Valery Valery
      Vote FOR !!! Vote for RUSSIA !!

      Vote with your heart or lose, we heard that back in the 90s.
      1. -1
        28 June 2020 13: 46
        Exhale beaver already 2020 ..
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 14: 46
          Quote: tracer
          Exhale beaver already 2020 ..

          What has changed?
          1. -4
            28 June 2020 15: 03
            And much more dramatically. Exhale, exhale ..
            1. +3
              28 June 2020 15: 07
              Quote: tracer
              And much more dramatically. Exhale, exhale ..

              For example?
              1. 0
                28 June 2020 19: 00
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                For example?

                Probably in Canadian tyrnete there is no such information ...
      2. -3
        28 June 2020 14: 11
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Vote with your heart or lose


        so those who then with this slogan kept their power and drunk in a chair against changes to the Constitution and this is a sure sign that you need to vote FOR
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 14: 55
          Quote: lopvlad
          so those who then with this slogan kept their power and drunk in a chair against changes to the Constitution and this is a sure sign that you need to vote FOR

          Only the constitution was different.
    2. +4
      28 June 2020 11: 57
      Yes! throw off American oppression from our shoulders! The Americans drank blood over the past 30 years! They took away all our sovereignty! They imposed their Constitution, you bastards! Long live freedom! laughing
  6. +24
    28 June 2020 10: 19
    We're back to the 90s scam, Vote or Lose. I am against the adoption of the amendments in one package.
    1. -7
      28 June 2020 14: 14
      Quote: Bad
      We are back to the 90s scam


      do you think after the adoption of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the basket with cookies and jam from the State Department will become smaller?
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  7. +10
    28 June 2020 10: 19
    The enemies of the Communists "iron logic" -Look what we have done with the Soviet Union, that we have done with the Ukraine, so bear with us, our power, our system in Russia. But we do not assume any liability for the seizure of Russia, for what we have done with Russia and the Russian people, for all that shall bear the responsibility of the Soviet Communists. Like me here alone dnyah- Putin propagandist "foaming at the mouth" proved that the enemies of the Communists "innocent" to the fact that in 1993 the mortality rate in Russia has increased by 400-800 thousand people per year. What is all the communists are to blame.
    1. +2
      28 June 2020 11: 53
      Those who voted in 1993 for the "American" constitution, as they say now, are calling to vote for amendments, to the "American" constitution ... Have not forgotten also American jeans and cellophane bags with cowboys ....
    2. -1
      28 June 2020 14: 15
      Quote: tatra
      what we have done with Ukraine


      Are you talking about what and what?
  8. +6
    28 June 2020 10: 20
    Here is one, "a rebel and a fighter against the regime" famously change shoes in the air.
    Mikhail Efremov addressed the public through an attorney Elman Pashayev with an explanation of his appearances on the youtube-channel Citizen Poet. During the last visit, the artist asked Elman Pashayev to make a “political” statement on his behalf.
    “Where am I and where is the politics? I have no relation to the opposition, I have no relation to politics. I have nothing against Putin’s personality. Why should I feel bad about the person who feeds us - us, people of art, and movie figures. After all, we all remember the decline in culture before. ”
    To my question about voting on amendments to the Constitution, Mikhail said that he did not understand the political part of these amendments and could not say anything, but he spoke very well about the social support that would be guaranteed if the amendments were adopted.
    When I quoted his client a few questions of your colleagues of his poems on the channel "Citizen Poet", in which he criticizes the government, the Michael I replied: "I am an artist, a clown, not opposition. This is my job". He noted, for reading other people's poems, he received the money and did not even care that it's someone else's tool. "
    1. +4
      28 June 2020 10: 28
      With this, everything is clear - I began to sober up, and not only with my body, but also with my brains. The correct "treatment" is immediately evident, only late.
    2. +1
      28 June 2020 10: 32
      So what, the classic mentality of those who are "better off than in the USSR" in post-Soviet Russia, starting with their benefactors Yeltsin and Putin, who, when it was profitable, were "loyal communists", and when it became profitable in anti-Soviet Perestroika, instantly "changed their shoes" and became "ideological anti-communists". So Efrefov pretended to be an "oppositionist" because he received huge fees for his "opposition" performances, and as he committed a crime, he immediately became a "supporter" of the authorities. Although it is clear that the authorities will not jail him. And for such a "justice", including, separately, for the people, and separately, for officials and the "elite", and they started voting now.
      1. +6
        28 June 2020 11: 06
        ..... tatra ...... and for this "justice" ..... separately for the people, and separately for officials and the "elite" ......
        negative
        I thought now that this is the answer to the frequently asked question, which the author also has ----why didn’t come out to defend the USSR
        Already then there was justice for the upper and the ordinary, there was already a pull on services and goods, the distribution of the deficit, benefits for those who have notes from the higher ones, or calls ... The people felt this lie, felt that there was no more equality ... . identified the "elite" with the state. Something like this....
        1. 0
          28 June 2020 11: 10
          The enemies of the Communists, unlike humanity, are not responsible for the capture of the country, those who seized the country, but those from whom they seized the country. And the USSR - compared with the States you created on the territory of the former USSR - this is the BEST State both in development and for the majority of the people, and in so far as the power is close or far from the people, and in the honesty of those who own the country.
          1. +3
            28 June 2020 14: 27
            Created by you? ------ is this by whom? Who do you mean? Irina? Who are you contacting? None of the states present has created
        2. +3
          28 June 2020 12: 03
          Quote: Reptiloid
          . The people felt this lie, felt that there was no more equality ......

          That is why they went against the USSR under the slogan "For social justice."
        3. +1
          28 June 2020 14: 03
          Reptiloid (Dmitry) Today, 11: 06
          why didn’t come out to defend the USSR

          Personally, I perceived the appeal of the State Emergency Committee not even as a "summit coup", but rather as another "blah blah blah" in conditions of "impotence of the authorities."
          There was no longer trust "neither this nor that."
          And such my mood was even reflected in the documents of that time.
          APPEAL
          TO THE SOVIET PEOPLE
          Compatriots! Citizens of the Soviet Union!
          In a difficult, critical time for the fate of the Fatherland and our peoples, we are addressing
          we are to you! Mortal danger looms over our great Motherland! Started
          initiated by M. S. Gorbachev, a reform policy conceived as a means
          ensure the dynamic development of the country and the democratization of public
          life, for several reasons, has reached an impasse. To replace the initial enthusiasm
          and hope came unbelief, apathy and despair. Power at all levels has lost
          public confidence
          . Politics has supplanted public concern about public life.
          the fate of the Fatherland and citizen. Angry mockery is imposed on everyone
          state institutions. The country has essentially become unmanageable.
          ...........................
          STATE COMMITTEE
          FOR EXTRAORDINARY POSITION IN THE USSR
          18 August 1991 year.
        4. 0
          28 June 2020 14: 32
          Quote: Reptiloid
          The people felt this lie, felt that there was no more equality


          Soviet people was their naivete is like a child who saw a beautiful toy on the TV screen on the shelf overseas store shouting, "I want" and rolled up legs and arms, and demanded to him it was.
          After all, his parents (political power of the USSR) did not explain to him that if this toy is on a foreign shelf, it does not mean that every foreign child can afford to have it.
          That the layer of oil on his sandwich is not as thick as in the West, not because his parents hid it for themselves, but because there was enough oil, even for a thin layer, but for all children in the country, unlike the West, where there is one sandwich with a thick layer of oil with ham and another a dry, dried crust.
          1. -1
            28 June 2020 16: 20
            The trouble is that dad and mom (the political leadership of the country) did not bother to build the same toy for their child as on TV. Play, they say, son, wooden, you and such will come down.
            1. +1
              29 June 2020 18: 14
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              they didn’t bother to build the same toy for the child themselves as on TV


              But what is the use of that toy if it cost so much that the child could not afford it like a child in the West? .Vot now there are car toys in our stores from the TV and you can afford it, moreover, on credit for years, Lada Vesta or a similar foreign Asian car junk.
              1. 0
                29 June 2020 19: 01
                So the car in the scoop and was 4 times more expensive than the cost. Lada cost 1500 rubles to the state, and the population was driven for 6500. Yes, and in turn. Any capitalist will envy such a fat.
          2. +1
            28 June 2020 19: 14
            The higher ones were so detached from the people that they did not care that the people there did not understand or want to. Already thought only of themselves. Hello already was e
    3. +6
      28 June 2020 10: 39
      “I am an artist, a clown, not an oppositionist.

      The killer he is ... the killer of an innocent man ... that’s all.
  9. -19
    28 June 2020 10: 21
    I noticed that only personal losers are "drowning" against. Or for work.
    1. -4
      28 June 2020 13: 50
      One hundred percent you're right. They reluctantly from the site and sign each other. They have such a sect. I am pleased only that nothing depends on them.
      1. 0
        29 June 2020 13: 30
        And I am glad that people like you will later be flushed down the toilet, like spent biomaterial
        1. +1
          29 June 2020 15: 59
          Do you mug mongrel liburasienovskaya. I’ll let anyone go where I want. Paratroopers are not former. And believe my friend like me a lot. And we won’t give you a chance to trick the country. I saw how it was in the Caucasus and how it ended .... Sit still.
          1. 0
            29 June 2020 16: 05
            What a formidable am
            Do not forget to snarl 50 grams for courage.
            1. 0
              29 June 2020 16: 55
              I don’t drink at all, it’s hard for you to imagine
              1. -1
                29 June 2020 17: 21
                Quote: tracer
                I don’t drink at all

                Yeah, "tracer" ... From small dishes.
                1. 0
                  29 June 2020 20: 41
                  Have LGBT people been invited here? You can't be here. You got a website.
                  1. -1
                    1 July 2020 08: 19
                    Quote: tracer
                    Have LGBT people been invited here?
                    What are we interested in, of these?
                    Not that they didn’t send the invitation, is there not enough of their lumberjacks?
                    Quote: tracer
                    You can't be here. You got a website.

                    Wow, you already call VO the site for the rainbow, it’s completely doc ....
          2. -1
            1 July 2020 08: 31
            Quote: tracer
            Paratroopers are not former.

            Are you a paratrooper? The bread slicer sniper at you VUS.
            Quote: tracer
            And believe my friend like me a lot

            What, what, and there are enough bread-cutters like you, you cannot erase with any dust from it. When will you stop lying?
            Quote: tracer
            I saw how it was in the Caucasus and how it ended ..

            Especially in Tbilisi as a 21 massacre brigade, it was dispersed by sapper blades.
  10. +3
    28 June 2020 10: 23
    Today you play jazz, and tomorrow you will sell your homeland.
  11. +9
    28 June 2020 10: 26
    Yes, it's time for epic speeches ...
    My God, even in the regions all kinds of local screams are broadcasting such things - that means the bottom is already close ... With a turnout of about 10 percent, there was only one chance to use the military-patriotic, socially paid, powerful marginals with bravura speeches ...
    No, there is one last argument: - Do you want Burundi or Congo? If not, if you want to at least like in Samoli, then you need to vote, tighten your belts and rally ...
    1. +8
      28 June 2020 10: 41
      10% will not appear, only state employees and pensioners, already 40 percent will give
      1. +10
        28 June 2020 11: 21
        My sister is a state employee. Indication to go. We went on the first day. We voted. Next day drag. Why did you vote against. And how do you know? And they told me the result of your vote. From her words.
        1. -2
          28 June 2020 11: 41
          sorry but a lie. most likely they either take employees to the show or someone openly tells a lie. it is physically impossible to find out. and even more so to come and admit to employees in violation of the laws of the Russian Federation such a thing ...
          1. +6
            28 June 2020 12: 47
            Did my sister lie to me or their boss?
            1. -6
              28 June 2020 13: 08
              Sorry, but I can’t put it that way. she could misunderstand. or someone misled her. a talker with mania - I know everything and I will tell everyone in many groups. a sort of bird-talker who knows everything about everything. well, or the boss is really stupid and making authority on such statements Tipo fear me. I know even that. But the fact that someone could get a similar Old is stupid initially. Moreover, this statement is practically a confession in a crime to which people are obliged to respond.
              1. -1
                28 June 2020 19: 33
                I understand that you do not live in Russia ... More and more abroad ..... laughing
                1. +2
                  29 June 2020 02: 49
                  why?) read the thread here state employees write for example that they have not even heard that someone is told when to vote and where to go. I somehow believe them more. as well as among my acquaintances, too, have not heard such things. What do you think I will believe more whom? science fiction writers who can find out how his employees voted? Well, it’s probably worth starting to study this topic at least once and understand that this is impossible in principle.
            2. +1
              28 June 2020 21: 17
              Quote: parusnik
              Did my sister lie to me or their boss?

              Everything is the same! That's what!
        2. -4
          28 June 2020 13: 52
          More tragedy, more. :I do not believe"....
        3. -2
          28 June 2020 13: 55
          I observe the same thing. The most fair and honest patriotic power makes you go to vote. Here it is freedom of choice in all its glory.
        4. +2
          28 June 2020 14: 16
          Stranno.My father is a state employee, I am a state employee, a friend of a state employee. We work in different organizations. But none of us was told anything about the "obligation" at work. The bosses are not working out enough or there were no instructions at all?
          1. +1
            28 June 2020 22: 02
            Yes, this misinformation about "obligatory" - and they come up with all sorts of icteric garbage dumps, that would be a brainless hawala audience.
        5. +2
          29 June 2020 04: 03
          Another Crimean woman, the daughter of an officer with her "not everything is so simple."
      2. +1
        28 June 2020 15: 25
        I don’t know why everyone is making fools of themselves? Well, it’s clear (from all previous votes) that the turnout will be in the region of 60% and the votes in favor are more than 70%. And it is not necessary to "draw."
    2. +1
      28 June 2020 12: 09
      Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
      dominant marginal

      And who is this!? Here, if a "marginal", then clearly not "in power", and if "in power", then clearly not a "marginal"!
    3. +2
      28 June 2020 18: 27
      personally, I have always been for Putin, and still support him, and most like me
      1. -2
        29 June 2020 13: 38
        Well done! Take a pie from the shelf.
        1. +1
          29 June 2020 19: 48
          and since childhood I’ve done well and I’ll always take mine ... and Putin is of such a cut as I am, therefore I understand him, but you are unfortunate and all that remains is that you wrap your snot on a fist, go cry on
  12. +9
    28 June 2020 10: 26
    I will tell you my opinion. The social - democratic form of state existence is much more preferable to me than an absolute monarchy. If you allow a little allegory, then Norway is much more to its liking than Saudi Arabia.
    1. -4
      28 June 2020 10: 42
      And I prefer solid power than anarchy and rampant left-wing radicals with democrats ...
      always when weak-willed individuals come to power in Russia, the collapse of the state begins ... this is unacceptable under any sauce of democracy.
      1. 0
        28 June 2020 10: 55
        always when weak-willed individuals come to power in Russia, the collapse of the state begins

        Well, now Russia is not falling apart. So in your words there is a mismatch.
        1. -2
          28 June 2020 10: 56
          Well, now Russia is not falling apart. So in your words there is a mismatch.

          It doesn’t fall apart ... and don’t dream about it ... mr nobody knows who.
          1. +3
            28 June 2020 11: 03
            Don't fall apart ... and don't dream about it ...

            I don’t dream about it.
            But I'm just saying that Russia will not fall apart in any case. And you say that Russia will not fall apart only if Putin & Co is in power. Agree, there is a difference.)
            1. -2
              28 June 2020 11: 08
              And you say that Russia will not fall apart only if Putin & Co is in power. Agree, there is a difference.)

              I don’t agree ... because you attributed Putin to me, which I didn’t mention in your comment ... this is a scam ... and that means I’m starting to suspect you of intentionally misleading members of the forum.
              A little lie subsequently gives rise to a big lie ... no matter what good intentions you would be guided by.
              1. +7
                28 June 2020 11: 11
                because you attributed Putin to me, which I did not mention in my comment ...

                Come on, Alex. Here everyone is wonderfully understanding whose redoubts you are defending.
                1. -6
                  28 June 2020 11: 13
                  Come on, Alex. Here everyone is wonderfully understanding whose redoubts you are defending.

                  Well ... then I don’t understand whose redoubts the opponents of the vote protect ... the interests of Russia? ... I doubt it very much ... not one of the opponents of the vote gives serious arguments against ... everything is on the level of emotions and personal hostility towards Putin .
                  1. +1
                    28 June 2020 12: 18
                    Quote: The same LYOKHA
                    not one of the opponents of the vote gives serious arguments against ...

                    Some "declarations". I here at my leisure read about "Putin's trolls", how to define. They write, they say, "zaputintsy" say that the people have never lived better than under Putin. But apparently they do not want to refute this "thesis of the zaputintsy" ... or they cannot. And so on for all their "positions".
                  2. +8
                    28 June 2020 12: 29
                    Quote: The same LYOKHA
                    none of the opponents of the vote gives serious arguments against.

                    Personally, I am against amendments to one heap, against lifelong senatorism, zeroing, demilitation, and heaps of that water, it is not clear why it is inserted into the amendments, including God. And in general, I am against the current Yeltsin constitution.
                    1. -3
                      28 June 2020 13: 55
                      You may even be against the laws of physics. There is absolutely nothing for "them" for that.
                      1. +2
                        28 June 2020 19: 04
                        Quote: tracer
                        There is absolutely nothing for "them" for that.

                        Then why are you trying so hard?
                    2. -1
                      29 June 2020 09: 06
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      And in general, I am against the current Yeltsin constitution.
                      For amendments, those to whom they threw a bone in the form of amendments so that they shut up. And the fact that it is necessary to completely change the basic Law is not clear to them. The fact that it will not be better with amendments is only clear to those who not only know letters, but are able to understand the text.
        2. -2
          28 June 2020 13: 32
          Quote: Simon Schempp
          Well, now Russia is not falling apart. So in your words the inconsistency

          What is the discrepancy? Just because it doesn’t fall apart because it is in power in Russia, and for a long time (but not quite, it would take even longer !!) there is a very STRONG leader, Patriot (with a capital letter!) From his country. What, by the way, is VERY envious of Russians in other countries, by the way - the strongest - the USA, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Great Britain!
          1. -1
            28 June 2020 19: 25
            A strong leader is not always the solution to all problems. Solving the problem of independence, it is also necessary to effectively manage the economy, otherwise everything may be covered by the same basin, but for a different reason.
        3. +1
          29 June 2020 19: 54
          do you think Putin is a limp personality?
    2. -2
      28 June 2020 14: 37
      Quote: Ezoterik
      The social - democratic form of state existence is much more preferable to me than an absolute monarchy.


      I prefer when there is only one boss in the country, and not millions of officials in ministries independent of each other, departments standing above me with heads. At the same time, they are not dependent on anyone and are not responsible for anything.
    3. +4
      28 June 2020 14: 44
      By the way, Norway is a monarchy, not a republic!
    4. +3
      28 June 2020 18: 40
      we have neither Norway nor Arabia nor Papuan, we have Russia. And we should have the primacy of our domestic law over international, then you look and offshore money will become less, and, accordingly, a larger budget, and therefore social
  13. -3
    28 June 2020 10: 28
    An article as a manifesto, there are strong words, I want to believe what is written from the bottom of my heart, because I, too, was born in the USSR
    1. +2
      28 June 2020 12: 50
      An article as a manifesto, there are strong words, I want to believe what is written from the heart
      ... as a manifesto of October 17, 1905 ..
  14. -13
    28 June 2020 10: 29
    I will subscribe under every word of the article! Everything is true and it was. I am in favor of the amendments!
  15. -14
    28 June 2020 10: 29
    Great written, emotionally. I agree with the author. Despite my criticism of Putin, I voted for the amendments, because I understand that throwing from side to side will not lead to anything good.
    We are an original people and I personally do not want to be like anyone and want to live according to our patterns, and not according to the path written by the West.
    I hate all these Western "values" that underground ideologues dump on people's heads like a commodity, packing them into beautiful wrappers.
    1. -2
      28 June 2020 12: 21
      Quote: Campanella
      Despite my criticism of Putin, he voted for the amendments,

      I subscribe to your every word! The stronger the Western demons and their local ones are not from the big mind of the archers, the more I have confidence in the correctness of the actions of the President of Russia!
    2. +4
      28 June 2020 12: 53
      We are an original people and I personally do not want to be like anyone and want to live according to our patterns, and not according to the path written by the West.
      ... which was written in 1993 and for which more than 50% of the residents are enthusiastically voted ...? Including you ..?
      1. +1
        28 June 2020 18: 31
        I did not vote for her! And the current liberals criticized Putin and the Yeltsin propaganda pack exuded enthusiasm for its adoption.
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 20: 28
          Now are you voting for or against what you voted against? Where is the logic? ... But Putin is not a liberal? Is he alone ...? A good king with liberal boyars? .. And the Yeltsin Center, was built against his will? And the Pension Reform?
          1. 0
            28 June 2020 23: 56
            It's not about Putin. He is a liberal and much more. So the Communist Party urged not to vote, but then what?
            In 2024, Putin will have the opportunity to be re-elected, but if by this time the Communist Party does not begin to actively fight in practice, not in words
            Nothing will change, Putin will drag the receiver and again great
      2. +1
        29 June 2020 19: 56
        I personally did not vote in 93, and there are not few like me
    3. -1
      28 June 2020 14: 00
      Well done. Still, I was not mistaken, you are the same communist as from Trump.
      1. 0
        28 June 2020 18: 33
        And still, I am a man of left-wing beliefs, but in this situation I have to be a pure conservative. And we will break through the left idea, as well as transform the Russian population into a people!
        1. -2
          28 June 2020 19: 32
          In what situation? Tell me bluntly, the petty-bourgeois instinct worked. And I wanted to hide the fat body in the cliffs. Did it really help a hundred years ago? Does history teach that history does not teach anything?
          1. +1
            28 June 2020 23: 48
            Well, tell me how you will win if they do not accept the amendments? Who will take power? What will he do?
            History teaches one thing - everything should happen when there are preconditions and the corresponding situation.
        2. 0
          28 June 2020 20: 30
          And still, I am a man of left-wing beliefs, but in this situation I have to be a pure conservative.
          ... As in a joke, hesitated along with the party line ...
  16. -10
    28 June 2020 10: 29
    That's right, I voted "For"
    1. -6
      28 June 2020 12: 23
      Quote: WertGan
      That's right, I voted "For"

      Oh, how they will be mined! The State Department’s money allocated for countering Russia was not wasted!
      1. +6
        28 June 2020 12: 57
        Here an article on VO was recently, how the Americans financed EBN in 1996 ... Do you think the same thing? laughing Only here they took up the members of the forum, personally, for everyone ..? And how much do they pay? ... I don’t know, they still paid .. They will probably throw it ..? laughing
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 14: 05
          What to take from him. Not far paid or free, which is still a demagogue with one crinkle. He has his own imagination limited by the scope of the training manual.
        2. -4
          28 June 2020 14: 07
          Quote: parusnik
          I don’t know, they still paid.

          I understand you are convinced. You can argue with you, prove the correctness of your views, etc. And I'm talking about "professionals", because the money is really allocated and someone got it ....
          1. +1
            28 June 2020 20: 40
            Where am I to argue with the witty. And by my witlessness I’ll say, from changing the terms of the terms, the amount does not change ... At least who will be in power Putin, Grudinin, Platoshkin, Navalny ... The terms are the same, the amount will not change, that 3 + 2 = 5, 2 + 3 = 5,4 + 1 = 5, etc. Nooo, if of course in this case, something has changed 3 + 2 = 6 has become, then yes .... laughing
            1. 0
              28 June 2020 22: 07
              Quote: parusnik
              Where can I argue with the foolish.

              Well, if you position yourself that way, then there’s nothing to talk about!
      2. -4
        28 June 2020 13: 57
        Yes, no .. What is the State Department? It is mainly pivas and loneliness. Only yapping together they get a choir. From what howl even more.
        1. -4
          28 June 2020 14: 10
          Quote: tracer
          Yes, no .. What is the State Department? It is mainly pivas and loneliness. Only yapping together they get a choir. From what howl even more.

          So those at least for the money, but these are meager. They think that Putin will be removed and free beer will be poured out of the taps, but he already has no brains to understand where to get it from.
          1. -4
            28 June 2020 14: 19
            That's exactly what they think unfortunately. And it was precisely such people who ruined my homeland of the USSR. You must remember this psychotype. The second time I will not give them this chance.
            1. +3
              28 June 2020 19: 33
              Unfortunately the American propaganda machine is working closely with the Russian young people, so that our children, if we are to them "dostuchishsya" can all be drained because of youthful maximalism.
            2. +4
              28 June 2020 22: 16
              Quote: tracer
              That's exactly what they think unfortunately. And it was precisely such people who ruined my homeland of the USSR. You must remember this psychotype. The second time I will not give them this chance.

              These are perfectly visible even here on VO. Neither of those who do not want to do either for themselves or for the country. Hollow-throats and bawlers who do not offer any concept of the country's development in exchange for the current government so displeasing to them, who know how to shout "Down with!" without calculating the consequences of his "Down!" even two moves forward.
          2. 0
            28 June 2020 20: 46
            They think that Putin will be removed and free beer will pour out of the taps.
            .... No ... the cherry will not go up and the beets will not bloom ... They are not in a hurry now, and if there is a replacement, a miracle will not happen ... Yes, it will not exist anymore .... It’s not worth it in the rotten wall poke a finger, she’ll fall apart ... I’m very smart, sorry ... laughing
      3. +3
        28 June 2020 14: 02
        For me, people like you who are intensely willing to drive Russia into the abyss along the road of capitalism are the agents of the State Department.
        1. -7
          28 June 2020 14: 22
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          For me, people like you who are intensely willing to drive Russia into the abyss along the road of capitalism are the agents of the State Department.

          Well, in "communism" we already went .... Where as a result we have seen the communists led naked eye.
          1. +1
            28 June 2020 14: 52
            You did not forget I hope about nuclear energy and other weapons about free medicine and education? About science and technology? Or do you think that all the supporters of capitalism did 70 years in the pocket of a fig? What would your Putin be worth without nuclear weapons clearly shows the fate of Libya and Gaddafi. And yet, yes, we never got into communism. But they fell into a crisis of socialism, which has come about for many reasons.
            1. -4
              28 June 2020 15: 10
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              But they fell into a crisis of socialism, which has come about for many reasons.

              And who brought there? Suggest to repeat?
              1. -2
                28 June 2020 19: 20
                I don’t offer you anything at all. I offer those who really want to change their lives for the better. And you are so good at the trough.
                1. +1
                  28 June 2020 22: 04
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  I don’t offer you anything at all. I offer those who really want to change their lives for the better. And you are so good at the trough.

                  You’re not able to change your life for the better, but you’re talking about a whole country, and without voicing any concept. So, nonsense is one!
                  Unlike you, I retired in 2001 with a pension of 3. 300 rubles and began to build a personal "trough" for myself, working in production from the head of the department to the director of the plant. That would be in the "trough" that something was working five days a week without time limit. I haven't been on vacation for the first six and a half years in a row. Now my personal "trough" is filled thanks to my hard work and dedication. And how full of gorlopanov you are Ukraine. "Give!" "Give!" Not able to do anything, wanting only to take away and divide! You yourself are doing your own destiny, and that you have it like that, no one but yourself is to blame! So wipe your snot and calm down!
                  1. -7
                    29 June 2020 14: 10
                    I don’t give a damn about your personal achievements. He plowed, you see. And the rest of the country does not do nichrome apparently. Horseradish Atlas found. It is characteristic that he started singing about take and share. Most likely from that category of former warriors are stupid but stubborn and not burdened with moral principles. I have seen such. I have never put you in such a way and despised. In fact, you are arrogant and worthless parasites.
                    1. +2
                      29 June 2020 18: 15
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      I have seen such. I have never put you in such a way and despised. In fact, you are arrogant and worthless parasites.

                      "An impudent and worthless parasite" fought on both "Chechen" events, participated in the Budennovsk events (you will find my post about Budennovsk, you will see my photo to represent personally whom you "despise")
                      And do not crucify for the whole country, no one has authorized you to be a loser and a loser, answer for yourself. Around me live people who have received education, have good professions and from here also good earnings. They have new houses, one or two cars for a family with one or two children. These are my real neighbors and friends, and not some virtual ones. In the mornings, they go to work, and do not reach for a glass like you and similar marginals.
                      I well understand your hatred of people who have not drunk their lives, but I do not care!
                      Most do not bother me with his drunken ravings "of the happiness of the people", not you with a hangover "to overthrow Putin." I will not let up the discussion with such a creature!
                      Sober up!
                      1. -3
                        29 June 2020 19: 27
                        So what? Even if you didn’t lie, which I have big doubts about, because you are constantly engaged in demagogy here, your merit is not an indulgence for all time. With regards to the people, you lie, I didn’t speak on his behalf, I poked you in your impudent self-PR. You are not the only one living and working in this country. And then you read right Russia keeps on you. Just leave the business and die immediately. Leave your nonsense about drunken marginals to yourself and to your own kind a cheap lying demagogue. Well then you do not care about the people apparently. He is a stranger to you for a long time. And I’m not overthrowing Putin; you are lying brazenly again. I urge people to at least adequately respond to an attempt to impose on them the will of capital. Your level skirting board and higher you will never rise.
            2. -1
              28 June 2020 15: 14
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              You did not forget I hope about nuclear energy and other weapons about free medicine and education? About science and technology?

              Science and technology, at the same time in other countries, were fully developed without the Communists, and quite successfully. And nuclear weapons too. But nothing free in the world. Yes, in the USSR they did not officially pay, but each citizen had to work for the state and thus worked out what he received.
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              And yet, yes, we never got into communism.

              So what to talk about him?
              1. -4
                28 June 2020 17: 31
                Quote: Dart2027
                Science and technology, at the same time in other countries

                Do not make me laugh. Only the states and us were able to enter the same nuclear energy industry.
                Quote: Dart2027
                But nothing free in the world.

                And how many wonderful discoveries will we learn from you? Why the hell are you telling me all this? Again imaginary communists defeated?
                Quote: Dart2027
                So what to talk about him?

                Maybe because communism is an inevitable future? Or should everyone like you discuss the weather for the seeds and how did they get drunk yesterday? So you know there are people who see a little further than their nose, and I'm one of them.
                1. 0
                  28 June 2020 18: 18
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Do not make me laugh. Only the states and us were able to enter the same nuclear energy industry.
                  That is, without communists, is it possible? And, by the way, nuclear weapons are not only in the United States.
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  And how many wonderful discoveries will we learn from you? Why the hell are you telling me all this?
                  Enlighten.
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Maybe because communism is an inevitable future?
                  According to the Communists themselves.
                  1. -6
                    28 June 2020 19: 29
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    That is, without communists, is it possible?

                    And imagine without the capitalists.
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    And, by the way, nuclear weapons are not only in the United States.

                    What are you saying? Thanks, Cap.
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Enlighten.

                    Is it called that now? Previously, this was called crazy nonsense.
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    According to the Communists themselves.

                    Well, you adherents of capitalism can not offer anything. Unlike. Except capitalism forever. And the communists have at least a scientific basis for such ideas about the future, and what about you, apart from "the artist sees it this way"? laughing
                    1. +3
                      28 June 2020 21: 18
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      And imagine without the capitalists.
                      That is, the fact that the STR is not connected with ideology, you still understood.
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      Thanks, Cap.
                      Please.
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      Is it called that now?
                      What to do, look at something and learn.
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      And the Communists have at least a scientific basis for such ideas about the future
                      Well, what are the results of the practical application of this "basis"?
                      1. 0
                        29 June 2020 04: 17
                        Adherents of flat land also have a scientific basis. tongue
                      2. -3
                        29 June 2020 19: 39
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, the fact that the STR is not connected with ideology, you still understood.

                        Boy are you really sick?
                        Let’s you not attribute your thoughts to me? Thank you in advance.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        What to do, look at something and learn.

                        What can you learn from your schoolchildren whose brains are replaced by stupid manuals?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Well, what are the results of practical application

                        At least the fact that you do not live in the likeness of a democratized Iraq.
                      3. +1
                        29 June 2020 20: 40
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Boy are you really sick?
                        Let’s you not attribute your thoughts to me?

                        That is, you deny that in the USA, Germany, Japan, England, France, etc. Science developed perfectly without the Communists? Well, who is sick here?
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        What can you learn from your schoolchildren whose brains are replaced by stupid manuals?
                        That you are self-critical.
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        At least what
                        the construction of Utopia failed miserably.
                      4. -3
                        29 June 2020 20: 47
                        The fact that science developed there is a fact. How good is a separate issue. And again, I will repeat in nuclear energy at that time only the states and we were able to. That says something. Do not you certainly have a training manual instead of a brain.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        utopia's construction failed miserably

                        Well, what can you talk about with this level of discussion on your part? Again, the manual textured to holes and ignoring what I said because you have nothing to object to. Go teach a schoolboy.
                      5. +1
                        30 June 2020 19: 24
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        That says something.

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And, by the way, nuclear weapons are not only in the United States.

                        Like so much more.
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Well, what can you talk about with this level of discussion on your part?

                        That is nothing to argue? Or did the USSR not fall apart?
          2. +1
            28 June 2020 18: 38
            The same thing and more can be said about the world of capital!
            There alone Potanin spoiled such lands, the dough was a pity to him! The hoopoe is capitalist!
            1. -3
              28 June 2020 20: 49
              Yeah. How much socialism has spoiled rivers of forests and fields - in general, cannot be counted. Chernobyl alone is worth something. They managed to build a pulp and paper mill on Baikal. Well, the Siberian rivers did not have time to turn back - socialism died.
              1. +1
                29 June 2020 00: 00
                Far less capitalism
                ! There is no socialism for 30 years, but the devil’s lawyers are all numbed, you look in the mirror more often! Plastic shit the whole world! All one-time, the states of the Kyoto did not sign. You are my friend, deaf-deaf-mute!
        2. +1
          28 June 2020 18: 36
          Sometimes, you need to be able to take a step back. You can’t expand Russia into socialism today.
  17. +9
    28 June 2020 10: 30
    Panfilova said - and without your (ha ha) vote you would have done well, so no, they’re participating in a scam, the saviors of the fatherland from world homosexuality, exactly like Zelensky in Ukraine)
    1. -10
      28 June 2020 10: 47
      And you seem to be the advocate of world homosexuality ... slowly I am beginning to classify opponents of the vote ... devilish cunning ... you can’t say anything.
      1. +3
        28 June 2020 11: 08
        In my opinion, it makes no sense to fight homosexuality. He always was, the whole history of mankind is, and always will be, as long as this humanity exists on the planet. Even Ivan the Terrible fought with this phenomenon, not anyhow where, but in monasteries. It’s another matter that this is by no means to be promoted; there should be no LGBT parades. No marriages between them the same. And so, live as you like, I personally side with them.
        1. 0
          28 June 2020 11: 41
          And so, live as you like, I personally side with them.

          All supporters of LGBT people, having reached the authorities, begin to propagate and promote laws in favor of LGBT people ... their behavior becomes very aggressive ... anyone who disagrees with LGBT people begins to undergo various persecutions ... this is very clearly seen both in Europe and in the USA ... that you should not underestimate the danger of LGBT ideas.
          1. +3
            28 June 2020 12: 26
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            All supporters of LGBT people, having reached the authorities, begin to propagate and promote laws in favor of LGBT people ... their behavior becomes very aggressive ... anyone who disagrees with LGBT people begins to undergo various persecutions ...

        2. +1
          28 June 2020 14: 40
          Quote: Ezoterik
          In my opinion, it makes no sense to fight homosexuality.


          it is not a matter of fighting him, but of not promoting and encouraging him, as they do in the West.
        3. 0
          28 June 2020 18: 41
          You can’t ... but they will! Do not be naive. Western values ​​through a song will deliver those who are against.
      2. -2
        28 June 2020 13: 21
        drinks hi
        As already said - the attitude to voting, like a spotlight, highlights the "fifth column"
        1. 0
          28 June 2020 19: 42
          Igor, It’s not so simple, I also wanted to vote against it, really. Because I don’t understand many of Putin’s steps. But thinking, I decided to choose a little evil.
          After all, Putin has cleared the political clearing and there is no party that could rely on most of the people. And this would simply lead to a civil war and the division of Russia.
          Therefore, you need to look and try to build the situation in such a way as to avoid sudden movements, so as not to let the country run through. On the other hand, I am sure that a different non-capitalist agenda will be formed in society.
    2. +3
      28 June 2020 10: 56
      Specifically, she said that the Tereshkova amendment was adopted by a separate law and was not put to the vote. In other words, we are not voting for or against the Tereshkova amendment. Vote for other things.
    3. +3
      28 June 2020 11: 34
      Quote: Igoresha
      Panfilova said - and without your (ha ha) vote you would have done well, so no, they’re participating in a scam, the saviors of the fatherland from world homosexuality, exactly like Zelensky in Ukraine)

      You, Igoresha or did not understand or, judging by.
      Quote: Igoresha
      (ha ha)
      deliberately cheating.
      According to the amendments, by law, it was possible to do without a vote. They would have been accepted in the State Duma at first, supported by local authorities, then the Federation Council approved the amendments, and the president signed the final touch.
    4. +2
      28 June 2020 13: 25
      Quote: Igoresha
      Panfilova said - and without your (ha ha) vote you would have managed perfectly,

      You are a liar, sir!
      Panfilova said only one thing combination of three factors - approval at the Federation Council, in the Duma and popular vote makes amendments to the Constitution absolutely legitimate[i] [/ i]!
    5. -6
      28 June 2020 13: 58
      You can no longer be saved from him ... Fact.
  18. +9
    28 June 2020 10: 30
    Everyone has the right to their opinion. But amendments to the Constitution in a single block, without the ability to vote on each item separately - this is not good. Disguised as concern for the people, the desire to stay at the helm at all costs does no honor to anyone
    1. +2
      28 June 2020 10: 57
      Refeyndum is not an "All for Home" store.
    2. 0
      28 June 2020 12: 28
      Quote: Megavolt
      the desire to stay at the helm by all means does no honor to anyone

      So personally, you don’t vote for him in the elections, but give the rest the opportunity to decide for yourself!
      1. -3
        28 June 2020 14: 08
        So you decide. Only for myself. Such patriots like me in Russia like you, with their calls to vote for their place at the trough, are not interesting to me.
        1. -5
          28 June 2020 14: 17
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Such patriots like me in Russia like you, with their calls to vote for their place at the trough, are not interesting to me.

          "Culture" and rushing!
          like you
          Dreaming of taking a seat at the trough with the new government?
          1. 0
            28 June 2020 14: 46
            Quote: major147
            "Culture" and rushing!

            Immediately translate the conversation to culture? Do not merge so quickly at least a little twitch demagogue.
            Quote: major147
            Dreaming of taking a seat at the trough with the new government?

            Not. I dream that there will be neither you nor a trough under the new government. People like you are disgusting to me.
            1. -4
              28 June 2020 15: 07
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              People like you are disgusting to me.

              Ek demon is rooting for you! Go to church!
    3. -4
      28 June 2020 13: 18
      Quote: Megavolt
      Disguised as concern for the people, the desire to stay at the helm at all costs does no honor to anyone

      Your stupidity, too, does not honor you! I'm sorry if I offended you. I didn’t want to - they asked for it ourselves!
  19. +4
    28 June 2020 10: 30
    The author does not worry, professionals will think so
  20. -1
    28 June 2020 10: 34
    As the saying goes: "Dear editors!" I wonder why there is only one article of this kind and appeared already during the voting, while the protest articles of R. Skomorokhov were published almost in a continuous stream for two months? Does this statistic reflect Topvar's editorial position? Topvar brings this position to the masses?
    1. +1
      28 June 2020 10: 49
      and the protest articles of R. Skomorokhov came out in an almost continuous stream for two months?
      I noticed that too.
      The installation is given by higher comrades ... one cannot refuse such an offer. smile
      1. -4
        28 June 2020 14: 00
        Yes, I also noticed and stopped reading this nonsense. He writes well about technology. Although he corresponded somehow personally with him. They did not agree.
    2. +8
      28 June 2020 11: 16
      Quote: WertGan
      I wonder why there is only one article of this kind.

      Staver’s article is not the first.
    3. +5
      28 June 2020 12: 19
      Wertgan look at the author’s profile. This is at least his second article on the topic.
    4. -1
      28 June 2020 13: 15
      Quote: WertGan
      Why was there only one article of this kind and appeared already during the vote, and the protest articles of R. Skomorokhov appeared in an almost continuous stream for two months?

      Because the State Department and the US Congress have allocated over 70 yards of "cut greenery" for protests, and patriotism is free, does not imply payment, on enthusiasm request ... As the saying goes - "nothing personal - just business!" (from)
      1. +1
        28 June 2020 19: 18
        Quote: Igor Aviator
        and patriotism is free, does not involve payment, on enthusiasm

        That is, all these videos that twist on a yashiku were filmed enthusiastically?
  21. +4
    28 June 2020 10: 35
    Well, propagandon, however ... some sort of west has sailed.

    The depravity of this vote is that a citizen is considered a bribe, palm off a bundle of varied amendments at once, and not what is specifically written there.
    1. +4
      28 June 2020 10: 59
      This comment uses an unprintable word. Comment violates site rules.
      1. -1
        29 June 2020 08: 29
        Well, when in essence there is nothing to say, you have to get to the bottom of the words))
    2. 0
      28 June 2020 12: 30
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      bimbo

      Ukraine, such a Ukraine!
      1. +1
        28 June 2020 14: 10
        Patriots .. such liberals.
  22. -2
    28 June 2020 10: 38
    Suppose I do not like the current system of power at all.
    But, since the amendments do not at all change exactly what I do not like, to me they are .... EXACTLY.
    I’ll go vote because I always do that.
    And yes, they will be accepted by the majority of those who voted.
    For those who ignored this event or anyway, or they flew in their hopes ....
  23. +6
    28 June 2020 10: 38
    Staver. Handsome. For the word "aftyr" dripping to the moderator))) Let's win, AUTHOR ?! And long live the eternal untouchable Putin ... Who does not swing, who paddles tirelessly, who is finally a male with dead eyes of the system "please treat with understanding." I do not believe that this is from the heart, AUTHOR. If you love Russia even to the smallest degree, then you cannot help but notice how it turns into bananostan. Eh ...
    1. -2
      28 June 2020 11: 02
      Dear, Far! Please understand that the Tereshkova amendment has already been adopted by a separate law. At this vote, we are not in favor of or against the Tereshkova amendment. It's about something else. About what? Also, a request for you to understand. Alas, everyone will have to figure it out.
      1. +3
        28 June 2020 11: 07
        To go nuts. Well no. On off. the brain does not boil to understand?
      2. +7
        28 June 2020 11: 15
        Let's get it right. The amendments were adopted by the Federal Assembly and the assemblies of the constituent entities. The Federal Law on amendments says that if the majority vote, the amendments will be adopted if they are not accepted on the contrary. The first is clear. The vote approves the amendments. The second is not clear. to happen? Dissolve the FS and meetings of the subjects? Call new elections? Where is it written? Or they will refer to 33-FZ, where the procedure for adopting amendments is indicated and they say the amendments are accepted in fact, the people did not understand their happiness?
      3. +2
        28 June 2020 13: 11
        Nifiga did not understand))) as Budyonny said, give me a saber))
    2. -2
      28 June 2020 12: 34
      Quote: Dalny V
      If you at least to a small degree love Russia, then you cannot help but notice how it turns into a bananostan. Oh ...

      Aha! And under Yeltsin, Russia was a "great independent state"!
      1. +5
        28 June 2020 12: 59
        And under Putin is a great independent state. Or are you disagreeing?
      2. +4
        28 June 2020 13: 14
        I’ve rowed for 20 years, but no one notices this ... Abidna, you panim
    3. -5
      28 June 2020 13: 07
      Quote: Dalny V
      If you at least to a small degree love Russia, then you cannot help but notice how it turns into a bananostan. Oh ...

      It’s hard for you in YOUR reality wassat you will not envy! lol And in my Russia is the most powerful state on the planet, a sovereign state, with the most powerful and efficient Army, with the fifth largest gold reserve, with a significant financial pillow (NWF), a country that occupies a leading position in the nuclear energy and nuclear industry, a powerful and further developing heavy machine tool industry, a country with a powerful military-industrial complex, solving tasks beyond the strength of other countries, a country that provides tangible social support to the population, a country that defeated poverty (and this despite the collapse of the country in the 90s and the subsequent 20 years of devastation!) The country I'm proud of and on defense which I’m ready to stand up myself and give EVERYTHING if necessary!
      1. -1
        29 June 2020 14: 00
        Will you give a kidney?
        1. +1
          29 June 2020 20: 24
          Why do you need a kidney - drank your own?
      2. -3
        29 June 2020 14: 26
        Yes, I have no doubt. You will give everything back. Only here is not his own. And about your Russia it is especially strong. In a state of dictatorship of capital.
    4. -5
      28 June 2020 14: 02
      Look at the 90s photo. You yourself are a bananostan.
  24. -9
    28 June 2020 10: 38
    Voted FOR. I am uncomfortable in the same company with Venediktov, Gozman and other Makarevichs with Albats.
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 10: 51
      Yes, the enemies of the communists, portraying the opposition, are very beneficial to the enemies of the communists in power and for power, and the more disgusting this "opposition", the better the authorities. How good, if Putin wants to declare himself a monarch, and the liberals are against it, then, according to your logic, you will support the fact that Putin will become a monarch.
      1. -2
        28 June 2020 11: 46
        Quote: tatra
        Yes, the enemies of the communists, portraying the opposition, are very beneficial to the enemies of the communists in power and for power, and the more disgusting this "opposition", the better the authorities. How good, if Putin wants to declare himself a monarch, and the liberals are against it, then, according to your logic, you will support the fact that Putin will become a monarch.

        As one prosecutor said: "The main thing, in the course of investigative actions, is not to find ourselves ..."
        What do you have wound "seven miles away, and all the forest"
        Andrew clearly stated
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        I am uncomfortable in the same company with Venediktov, Gozman and other Makarevichs with Albats
        1. -2
          28 June 2020 11: 58
          You either do not understand, or pretend. It is precisely this kind of "opposition" that is needed by the enemies of the communists in power and its propagandists, in order to discredit the real opposition, and to slip it to the people as a horror story, if you do not want Putin, they will be so, and to justify any actions of the government, if they , then the authorities are doing everything correctly, and it is necessary to express "full approval of the policy of the party and government." ...
          1. +1
            28 June 2020 12: 40
            Quote: tatra
            to discredit the real opposition,

            Actually, I believed that the real opposition is difficult to discredit because of its understandable mode of action (and not chatter) for the people.

            Irina, can you name the names of the members
            Quote: tatra
            real opposition
            ? Maybe I don’t know something. request
            1. -4
              28 June 2020 12: 53
              Ha, you, enemies of the communists, despite the fact that, for all obvious reasons, you really do not like to discuss yourself, and what you did during the Soviet period and after you captured the USSR, you still proved and told everything about yourself, including what if, of all the candidates for the post of President of Russia, Putin's propagandists persecuted only one candidate - this is Putin and proved that he considers him a real alternative to himself for the Russian people. And by how much Putin repressed a person from the "liberal opposition", and how much from the "left" opposition, he proved who is the real opposition for him.
              1. +2
                28 June 2020 13: 02
                Quote: tatra
                Ha, you, enemies of the communists, despite the fact that, for all obvious reasons, you really do not like to discuss yourself, and what you did during the Soviet period and after you captured the USSR, you still proved and told everything about yourself, including what if, of all the candidates for the post of President of Russia, Putin's propagandists persecuted only one candidate - this is Putin and proved that he considers him a real alternative to himself for the Russian people. And by how much Putin repressed a person from the "liberal opposition", and how much from the "left" opposition, he proved who is the real opposition for him.

                Why are there so many bukoffs in response to my question about the names of your "real opposition"? belay
                You can once again
                Quote: Clear
                Irina, can you name the names of the members
                Quote: tatra
                real opposition
                1. -3
                  28 June 2020 13: 12
                  If not, I explain it on my fingers. Here is an example, - the real opposition - the communists / socialists before the last "Putin elections" did everything like normal people - united, created their own Program for Russia and its people, chose their candidate, including by voting on the website of the "Left Front", and the enemies of the communists staged a large-scale HURTING of this candidate, did not allow the Program to be discussed, and immediately ran up with rudeness, insults, lies, slander, their eternal hypocritical "righteous anger." And don't bother me with stupid questions anymore. You, like all enemies of the communists, are not capable of discussion.
                  1. +3
                    28 June 2020 17: 34
                    Quote: tatra
                    And don't bother me anymore with stupid questions.

                    Yeah, but is it affectionate and without rudeness? That's why you do not win. Just then
                    Quote: tatra
                    You, like all enemies of the Communists, are not capable of discussion

                    And how then do you want to defend your Programs from
                    Quote: tatra
                    came running with rudeness, insults, lies, slander, their eternal hypocritical "righteous anger."
                    1. +3
                      28 June 2020 20: 17
                      Quote: Clear
                      Yeah, and it's affectionate and without rudeness

                      Tip, do not touch the tatra. This is a bot. The same set of phrases always ..... made it complete mm ...
                    2. +2
                      29 June 2020 04: 45
                      Enemies of the Communists, who are Communists who are enemies of the Communists who are enemies of the Communists, well, in general, you understand wink tongue
                  2. +1
                    29 June 2020 20: 30
                    There are no more communists - there are only imitators and scumbags such as you who have not been a power for a long time any parrot in the comments and on the Internet dumps all your strength.
                2. -6
                  28 June 2020 14: 04
                  Yes, on Platonidze he jerks the shutter. Don't you see the ago level?
          2. -4
            28 June 2020 12: 44
            Quote: tatra
            to discredit the real opposition

            Your "real opposition" has discredited itself so much over the years of its reign that there are still people who remember the communist government with their privileges, special distributors and other "buns" for them personally against the background of their false chatter "about the welfare of the people." That is why they were driven out of power with pissing rags under the slogan "For social justice." One Novocherkassk execution of hungry workers covers all the slogans of the communists.
            1. +1
              28 June 2020 14: 17
              Quote: major147
              One Novocherkassk execution of hungry workers covers all the slogans of the Communists.

              Is it now a liberal or a patriot wrote?
              1. -5
                28 June 2020 14: 20
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Quote: major147
                One Novocherkassk execution of hungry workers covers all the slogans of the Communists.

                Is it now a liberal or a patriot wrote?

                So you will have something to break your head over. For you, apparently there is only "black" and "white"?
                1. -2
                  28 June 2020 14: 48
                  Does this say the one who has only two gradations of citizens in the vote for constitutional amendments? Try another demagogue did not ride.
                  1. -3
                    28 June 2020 15: 09
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    Try another demagogue did not ride.

                    Wow! And are you sticking labels !? Waiting for your coming to power? Has the policeman already prepared a bandage?
                    1. -4
                      28 June 2020 17: 17
                      Quote: major147
                      Wow! And are you sticking labels !?

                      You painted yourself in those colors. And again, the demagogue does not roll at you. Try again.
                      1. 0
                        28 June 2020 18: 01
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        You painted yourself in those colors.

                        It is necessary, at the same time in the "black" and "white" !? You have a doctor's methods concede !? Although silent, I guess!
                      2. -5
                        28 June 2020 18: 07
                        What a hysteria. Notably, I pinched your tail. laughing And again, you do not succeed in vain for the money the government spent. Worthless you propagandist demagogue. Zero. Empty place.
                      3. 0
                        28 June 2020 18: 13
                        I understand that you have nothing, but yet I try to understand, the monitor would have snapped at you if I would have been hysterical. And neither any "money power" can not replace the pleasure to find and communicate with a representative of your species. fool
                      4. -4
                        28 June 2020 19: 34
                        You are a pitiful demagogue on the choke. Go already with your hysteria do not make people laugh.
                      5. 0
                        28 June 2020 22: 08
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        You are a pitiful demagogue on the choke. Go already with your hysteria do not make people laugh.

                        Your insight is directly proportional to your mental development!
      2. -3
        28 June 2020 12: 36
        Quote: tatra
        Putin will become a monarch.

        ABOUT! And Brezhnev was not a "monarch" !?
        1. -3
          28 June 2020 12: 56
          In general, Brezhnev was not elected by the people, but was put to power by the decision of the Politburo. Which, in turn, was also not elected by the country's population. Who is more a monarch - the president, elected by the people or the general secretary, appointed in his narrow circle?
          1. -1
            28 June 2020 14: 04
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Brezhnev wasn’t elected by the people,

            I am essentially. He ruled to death and no one decree to him.
            1. -2
              28 June 2020 14: 08
              And we have either. We have from the supreme power either a trip on a gun carriage, or by urgent request. This tradition has been since pre-Petrine times.
        2. +1
          28 June 2020 14: 18
          But then it was bad, but now it’s kind of good?
          1. -1
            28 June 2020 16: 27
            This is neither bad nor good - it is a tradition.
            1. -2
              28 June 2020 17: 38
              Wow. Earlier, the serf system was where people walked along with cattle. Also a tradition. Will refund?
              1. +2
                28 June 2020 18: 41
                Until we have a normal civil society, the effect of the change of power will be the same - they will have us. So far, we have far from the worst chapter in power, and then we'll see.
                1. -4
                  29 June 2020 13: 55
                  I have already heard this liberal canoe about a normal society for decades. Show me this normal society corresponding to your fabulous ideas. He is simply not there. But no, because it cannot be. Does not fit into economic realities.
                  1. -1
                    29 June 2020 14: 13
                    Yes please: Finland, Canada, Switzerland. Everything fits in with them.
                    1. -2
                      29 June 2020 14: 32
                      I am amused. laughing By the way, why are there so few countries on the list? Where is the light of the decree really there over the centuries of capitalism, civil society has not been born?
      3. -6
        28 June 2020 12: 50
        Quote: tatra
        the more disgusting this "opposition", the better the authorities

        "Judge him not by words, but by deeds" If Vladimir Putin finds the strength and desire to continue to lead the country, I will support him with all my HEART!
        1. -2
          28 June 2020 14: 12
          Quote: Igor Aviator
          Quote: tatra
          the more disgusting this "opposition", the better the authorities

          "Judge him not by words, but by deeds" If Vladimir Putin finds the strength and desire to continue to lead the country, I will support him with all my HEART!

          Despite the fact that the shouting "Down with Putin" do not offer anyone in return. Vacuum...
    2. +9
      28 June 2020 11: 04
      Quote: AS Ivanov.
      Voted FOR. I am uncomfortable in the same company with Venediktov, Gozman and other Makarevichs with Albats.

      Venediktov-Head of the Public Headquarters for Monitoring and Control of Elections Aleksey Venediktov belay
      1. -1
        29 June 2020 14: 23
        So they have special liberals. There are relatives, and there are strangers.
    3. +9
      28 June 2020 11: 08
      Andrei, I dare to ask you ... it turns out that the company of Rotenbergs, Gref, Sechin, Miller with countless and impudent bureaucrats warms your soul ??? ...
      By the way, the henchmen you mentioned are kept at the expense of the treasury ... you need to transfer arrows to someone to relieve anger ...
    4. +8
      28 June 2020 11: 10
      "I Voted. I'm comfortable in the company of Putin and Medvedev, naibullinoy".
      1. -11
        28 June 2020 11: 45
        Of the two evils, I choose the lesser.
        1. +10
          28 June 2020 11: 56
          From two evils you choose evil, bro. No more. No less. You are your own judge
          1. -7
            28 June 2020 12: 02
            Let the Sechins with the Rotenbergs be better than the Khodorkovsky and Prokhorovs.
            1. +12
              28 June 2020 12: 08
              Which is better? No, it’s really interesting which bullet should hit the head for a person to start talking, this shit tastes better than that. So what is better?
              1. -6
                28 June 2020 12: 11
                You see, my life is quite fine with me and it makes no sense to change something. And I vote solely on the basis of my own opinion. I don’t need perturbations.
                1. +4
                  28 June 2020 12: 23
                  Do not believe it, but I understand you. Upon returning to Primorye I will do an ulletar. But this does not mean that life in the country will improve
                  1. -2
                    28 June 2020 12: 28
                    And I am making material for your ultletary. You buy a board from me, and I have honey from you - I love it. So life will get better.
                    1. +6
                      28 June 2020 12: 41
                      See, we understand each other.
                      1. -4
                        28 June 2020 14: 03
                        Why is the West so persistently squealing: "Putin go away!" I don’t want to pour water on his mill, they have already poured it once, they were led in the late 80s: "Boris - fight!" I do not argue that by the end of the 80s the reforms were ripe and they were necessary like air, but not by the same barbaric methods, not by the disintegration of the State.
                      2. -1
                        28 June 2020 20: 50
                        I am far from a collective West. I am east, and not at all collective. But I also want Putin to leave. Who instead? Yes, damn it, anyone who sends the economic bloc of the government to the furnace. Glazyev. Katasonov. Platoshkin. Grudinin. They have a number. And why did you decide that without puting, the state will disintegrate? Did the Yakut shaman amass you about this?
          2. +3
            28 June 2020 12: 22
            From two evils you choose evil, bro. No more. No less. You are your own judge
            ... For 30 years we have had such elections and votes. After the first of July, we will only choose evil, whether it is small or big, no matter. In vain they attacked a person and citizen. laughing
    5. +6
      28 June 2020 12: 40
      Vote against. I am uncomfortable with the same company as Medvedev, Chubais, Kiriyenko, Matvienko, Soloviev, Rotenberg and the other Mishustins and Golikovs. Particular attention is paid to Mr. Zorkin, to his conscience and the honor of a judge, to the President of the Constitutional Court, who grabbed his seat and wanted to get out of this “mess” with white and fluffy ...
      1. -4
        28 June 2020 16: 28
        Vika Nuland applauds you. Keep it up!
  25. +6
    28 June 2020 10: 40
    Somehow, while wandering around the Internet, I came across a selection of photographs from the 90s. I remember 2 photos, the first was a line of many thousands in the first McDonald's in Moscow, Lenin's mausoleum did not know such lines in its best times, the second was a protest rally against the opening of McDonald's, several dozen people with placards. What is most interesting, exaggerating, of course, who do not ask, everyone stood in those tens, but where did those many thousands from the queue go? I confess, I stood in the "queue", believed in the chatter about glasnost and perestroika, like most, but not everyone has the courage to confess.
    1. -4
      28 June 2020 10: 57
      thousands of queues in the first McDonalds in Moscow, Lenin's mausoleum did not know such queues in its best times

      I'm sorry, what's wrong with McDonald's?
      1. +2
        28 June 2020 12: 47
        Quote: Simon Schempp
        what's wrong with mcdonalds?

        It's not McDonald's that matters, but the fact that in pursuit of a "beautiful wrapper" our people have rejected their values. They sold for "jeans, 100 varieties of sausages, lace panties" and did not defend their country, which our geopolitical enemies took advantage of.
        1. -1
          28 June 2020 21: 05
          So this is the fault of the state. Which could not or did not want to provide the population with pleasant trifles. It could not - give it to the private trader.
    2. -2
      28 June 2020 11: 10
      on Arbat ice cream penguins cafe appeared then) there were also those queues)
    3. +6
      28 June 2020 11: 28
      Quote: shubin
      I confess, I stood in line

      And I, passing this line, only at the temple twisted in your direction. And for thirty years, never went to McDonald's.
      Quote: shubin
      Lenin's mausoleum did not know such bursts in its best times

      There were more people in the Mausoleum, although there they did not feed sausage rolls.
    4. +5
      28 June 2020 12: 41
      Quote: shubin
      but not everyone has the courage to admit.

      Nevertheless - you had the courage to admit drinks I, too, in August 91 did not rush to defend the Union, or support the GKChP, which I VERY regretted later. Although, at a military airfield in the backwoods, my support would not be any tangible.
    5. +4
      28 June 2020 12: 54
      Quote: shubin
      Lenin's mausoleum did not know such bursts in its best times

      Perhaps he did not know, just as Moscow McDonalds did not know the lines from foreign delegations.
      Quote: shubin
      I confess, I stood in line

      I admit, even when McDonald's was opened in Kemerovo, I have never visited it. Perhaps I learned a different truth from you:
      IT IS NECESSARY TO EAT TO LIVE, NOT TO LIVE TO EAT.
      hi
  26. +11
    28 June 2020 10: 41
    Damn, I don’t understand one thing, how have we lived all this time with the wrong Constitution?
    And even more surprisingly, none of the ratatouille raised this question before zeroing; they were happy with everything. Now what happened? Did TV direct your anger in the right direction?
    1. +12
      28 June 2020 11: 02
      What is characteristic, in the 30th year of the existence of sovereign Russia, it turned out that it did not have sovereignty. All these years under three presidents, sovereignty was brazenly by the West and the USA was ignored and trampled upon.
      1. +5
        28 June 2020 11: 09
        This can be said almost according to Gogol, our Vii have been lifting their eyelids for a very long time ...
        Although I really admit my colonial dependence, I wanted to buy a domestic tractor and forklift with you, but I did not find one. More precisely, he found ours but assembled in China and ultimately preferred the products of those who at the same time wrote our Constitution.
        Omerikancis Oaths ...
        1. +4
          28 June 2020 12: 27
          hi I understand, I want to buy a house, but I have no opportunity, I can buy a goat but I have no desire .. laughing Didn’t support the friendly Russia, the Chinese manufacturer, did they sell to the Americans? laughing According to many here on the forum, an American agent, and feed from American hands? laughing So here you are laughing hi drinks
      2. +1
        28 June 2020 14: 25
        It’s interesting how the lack of sovereignty didn’t stop us from giving the Georgian Natsiks overwhelmed in the face in 2008 or taking Crimea into the country?
    2. +11
      28 June 2020 11: 09
      Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
      Damn, I don’t understand one thing, how have we lived all this time with the wrong Constitution?

      But imagine that they lived laughing
      Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
      And even more surprisingly, none of the ratatouille raised this question before zeroing; they were happy with everything. Now what happened?
      It remains to add to the constitution an amendment stating that "Do not lean against the door" in the subway wassat wassat
      1. +10
        28 June 2020 11: 11
        The amount of meat in sausage and the content of soybeans must also be prescribed in the constitution!
        1. +6
          28 June 2020 11: 14
          Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
          The amount of meat in sausage and the content of soybeans must also be prescribed in the constitution!

          Well, they will write about it next time ... You can’t do it all at once ... People should know that power always works .. If you write everything at once, then what will they do laughing
          1. +5
            28 June 2020 11: 18
            Thus, our Constitution will become the largest publication after a 35-volume collection of works by V.I. Lenin ....
            1. +8
              28 June 2020 11: 26
              At the same time, everyone forgets one factor .. Bismarck himself wrote about this ..
              “Even with very bad laws, you can govern the country if there are good officials ..
              And even the best laws won't help with bad officials! "
        2. +5
          28 June 2020 12: 59
          Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
          The amount of meat in sausage and the content of soybeans must also be prescribed in the constitution!

          Maybe introduce GOST on all products? belay
        3. -3
          28 June 2020 14: 08
          Only therapist at the reception do not say so.
      2. +2
        28 June 2020 12: 29
        It remains to add to the constitution an amendment stating that "Do not lean against the door" in the subway
        .... Not true. There is another "No way out". Dead end .. laughing
    3. +3
      28 June 2020 12: 32
      Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
      Now what happened?

      I will answer - the historical course of the development of society, "Conscious necessity". If you graduated from a Soviet university, you should know. if not, then you are out of luck request
    4. +2
      28 June 2020 12: 57
      Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
      Now what happened? Did TV direct your anger in the right direction?

      The upcoming parliamentary elections in 2021 may not give Edra a chance. Then the process of "zeroing" may look completely different. Therefore, the rush ... The fourth case ... lol
  27. +3
    28 June 2020 10: 42
    To participate or not to participate or to participate in other ways in the life of the country. Everyone decides for himself ... how he sees himself in this country. What future for himself and his children. The system of the territory of Russia during the time after the destruction of the USSR showed in vividly what awaits the average citizen .. .and what depends on his opinion.
  28. +1
    28 June 2020 10: 45
    I went and voted
  29. +6
    28 June 2020 10: 46
    "Rebels" are "dissidents". Their time has long passed with the USSR. There were no other "rebels" (and if there were, it was still a criminal article). Nobody "changed" the country. A counterrevolution took place, the need for which the "dissidents" were talking about all the time ... The social basis of counterrevolution: the first - who got the opportunity to commune a part of the USSR, the second - jumped into the "social elevators" under the "first". The rest simply could not get through the "registration".
    Any "rebel" has ample opportunity to "simply" sue the state (if, of course, there are grounds). "You have nothing, you are a beggar. And the flower bed is mine too!" ("Watch out for the car")
  30. +5
    28 June 2020 10: 50
    Imagine for a second that Ukraine fell apart, America was destroyed by Yellowstone, Navalny died, Europe ordered a long life, the fifth column and the liberals were forbidden by registering this in the constitution, so what? So what? Who will be next appointed to prevent us from living? Australian homosexuals? Ugandan radicals? Chilean Communists? Gulf Stream? Maya Indians?

    And, probably, traffic rules will need to be changed, international road signs installed in our country hinder development and prevent a unique leap forward!
    1. -1
      28 June 2020 11: 49
      Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
      And, probably, traffic rules will need to be changed, international road signs installed in our country hinder development and prevent a unique leap forward!

      Well here is a simple example. Gazprom is suing Naftagaz. Billions of dollars are at stake. The international court thought and decided that Ukraine is nicer. Billions are floating out of the country. Have you become worse off from this? Well, gas prices are likely to grow. Another example. Suing China and the United States. The inter-district court admits that China is right. The United States thought, and thanking the international court, recommends that he wipe it with his own decision. Something like this.
    2. -3
      28 June 2020 12: 18
      Quote: Junior Warrant Officer
      So what? Who will be next appointed to prevent us from living?

      What kind of question is, is it really not clear - it is YOU, the "Fifth Column", the "sleeping", hidden traitors - the Gozmans, Bykovs, Navalny, Khodorkovsky, Sytins, Amnueli - to enumerate all for a long time - it will be long enough! But, the good news is that a significant part, but not most of them, unfortunately, request already by name known - quality shone his "activities".
      1. -2
        29 June 2020 14: 36
        Ask a doctor for help, you have paranoia
    3. -3
      28 June 2020 13: 36
      Imagine for a second that they all did not fall apart, but rather ...
      1. +1
        29 June 2020 20: 33
        Do not fall apart - but held together.
  31. +10
    28 June 2020 10: 57
    It was getting dark. It was the fourth day of voting for constitutional amendments.
    1. +3
      28 June 2020 13: 25
      Quote: parusnik
      It was getting dark. It was the fourth day of voting for constitutional amendments.

      It was getting dark. There were columns with a stump
      Vote for "zeroing" ...
      And I suddenly remembered the movie:
      “The Sixth of July” is a Soviet full-length black and white historical and revolutionary feature film directed by Yulia Karasik, shot in 1968 to mark the 100th birthday of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin at the Mosfilm film studio based on the play of the same name by Mikhail Shatrov. The film is based on real historical events and is dedicated to the 50th anniversary of the Bolsheviks suppression of the Left Eser revolt in Moscow in July 1918 ...

      By analogy, it may become:
      Soon on the screens, a full-length, color, historical blockbuster in 3D "July 2". The film is based on real events and is dedicated to the beginning of Vladimir Putin’s indefinite reign, based on the proposal of the pilot-cosmonaut V.V. with the support of the faction "United Russia".
  32. +3
    28 June 2020 11: 03
    " We divided into those who are against Western influence and want to live in an independent country, and those who are for the West. Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents."
    It's a lie. It is clear that, in principle, this is a vote on Putin.
    "Yes, probably we really exchanged our country for nice packaging and jeans."
    The author may have changed. The reason for the death of the USSR is different and he knows about it.
    "Soon we will know the result of the vote."
    The result is known before the vote. His numbers have not yet been announced.
    1. +1
      28 June 2020 11: 12
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      then a lie. It is clear that, in principle, this is a vote on Putin.

      Absolutely ... The rest is fiction
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      The result is known before the vote. His numbers have not yet been announced.

      I dare to assure that the protocols are ready with numbers
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      The author may have changed.

      Well, if he says, then he changed
      1. +3
        28 June 2020 12: 18
        Do you have evidence of your assurances? If so, why don’t you spread it? What are you afraid of? Or do you hope to get closer to the feeder due to this evidence? Although most likely you have no evidence and you are an ordinary provocateur.
      2. -6
        28 June 2020 12: 33
        Quote: lonely
        I dare to assure that the protocols are ready

        Lyoshenka, your Chess today is understandable, but then why the hell is encrypted then? request
        Ah, that’s the same - dumb, jimmy .. Yes .laughing
        1. +1
          28 June 2020 12: 40
          Quote: Paranoid50
          Lyoshenka, your Chess today is understandable, but then why the hell is encrypted then?
          Ah, that’s the same - dumb, jimmy ...

          And what, a little like Leshenka? Everyone knows how all sorts of pseudo-elections go ... And this is no exception .. YouTube is teeming with commercials as the voting law is violated, but you are all looking for enemies ... Look, maybe you will find .. But it will late
          1. 0
            1 July 2020 17: 49
            YouTube is teeming with commercials as voting law is violated

            Do you completely trust the "videos" from YouTube?
            I am not. "Trust but verify."
            Vsë still need to "separate zërna from the chaff."
            Why? And because now there are a lot of stuffing and fakes on the network.
            Personally, my opinion!
            1. 0
              1 July 2020 19: 44
              Quote: brat07
              Do you completely trust the "videos" from YouTube?
              I am not. "Trust but verify."
              Vsë still need to "separate zërna from the chaff."
              Why? And because now there are a lot of stuffing and fakes on the network.
              Personally, my opinion!

              Now it’s such a time that trusting something is very difficult ... But I know from experience that the elections have now become a farce ... Everywhere in the former USSR .. And election laws are violated ... There are videos that are not fakes ...
  33. +4
    28 June 2020 11: 13
    Quote: ANDREI MIKHAILOV_2
    I voted for amendments to the Constitution.

    Well now you have at least disposable gloves and a medical mask. Although this is an undeniable plus. Did you give the ballpoint pen or did you have to return it?
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 11: 45
      "The kid should wear a tsak" (c)
      1. +2
        28 June 2020 12: 19
        How long have you been wearing?
        1. -2
          28 June 2020 14: 11
          Ask those who wear it.
          1. 0
            29 June 2020 02: 45
            So I ask you.
  34. +5
    28 June 2020 11: 22
    - Well, that, probably, we were all wrong in something ...
    - Gentlemen, by the decision of the Hanover court in connection with the successful completion of the experiment ...
    - Since it all happened so let it go as it goes ...
    - It is ordered, by the Highest command it is ordered to consider the defendant Baron Munchausen!
    - And here some began to allow themselves to sew patch pockets and to dress the sleeve - this we will not allow. (C)
  35. +7
    28 June 2020 11: 28
    Why do many people think that if we accept the amendments, we will live? Nothing will change, the performers will remain the same. And they didn’t fulfill the previous constitution either.
    1. +2
      28 June 2020 12: 21
      Maybe because many people really began to live better. Didn't it cross your mind? Indeed, if you “don’t see the gopher”, this does not mean that it is not there.
  36. +12
    28 June 2020 11: 31
    Here it is, the border that today divided the country. We divided into those who are against Western influence and want to live in an independent country, and those who are for the West. Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents.


    For me, the country has long been divided since the 91st year, into a super-rich minority, completely distraught from the thirst for accumulating money and robbing the majority of them, that’s how the country actually divided. And for ordinary people, they are also alien and opposed not only by the so-called West, but also by the local bourgeoisie.
    So the author is not protected here. Apparently, the author is mistaken, or maybe intentionally offers us to rally with the local conditionally Russian bourgeoisie to defend our Russia, modestly silent that this is this country, belongs not to the people, but to this very bourgeoisie, and they offer us to fight for their interests, as in the First World War throw millions of proletarians for slaughter for the interests of the king and his entourage.
    Well, comrades, we will unite for the sake of palaces, yachts, and capitals.

    And the local bourgeoisie so resists the adversary and so defends national interests that the whole hydropower of Siberia is already under the Americans, bravo!
  37. -1
    28 June 2020 11: 31
    The author is extremely self-revealing: for the first time, a Putinist explicitly admits that we do not live in the country, but in a beautiful package. Maybe you should change this package to the country?
  38. +2
    28 June 2020 11: 34
    Rather be held on July 1 and will draw attendance for amendments -70-80%, Putin spoke with gratitude for the "popular support of the party and government decisions", and nothing will change, except for life under Putin.
    1. -2
      28 June 2020 11: 44
      Quote: tatra
      Rather be held on July 1 and will draw attendance for amendments -70-80%, Putin spoke with gratitude for the "popular support of the party and government decisions", and nothing will change, except for life under Putin.

      Well, why? Dissatisfied protesters will finally subside.
      1. +2
        28 June 2020 12: 22
        Will subside until the next grant.
        1. -3
          28 June 2020 14: 33
          But like patriots on the salary of capital, it seems, they are pouring money in a continuous stream. Squeals for amendments and stupid accusations of working for the State Department will probably not stop voting from six months after this farce.
          1. +3
            28 June 2020 17: 52
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            But as for patriots on the salary of capital, it seems that they are pouring money in a continuous stream

            No, cookies are brought to you there by buckets. Or they promise to sip visa-free so that they could drink coffee in Austria in Austria))))
            1. -2
              28 June 2020 17: 54
              But they drink coffee in Austria for some reason entirely patriots. Just a mystery how it turns out.
              1. -1
                29 June 2020 14: 44
                Not only do they drink, they have real estate and business.
      2. 0
        28 June 2020 13: 45
        Quote: tomket
        Well, why? Dissatisfied protesters will finally subside.

        I see that you are absolutely happy with everything or you know a way how to make sure that the wolves are full and the sheep are whole?
  39. -2
    28 June 2020 11: 38
    Here is howling around the constitution-Borka drunk a simple example. There are all known, wreck, "Titanic." Recently, the village court "40 Years of October" and the magistrate Bob Kulebyakin issued a permit for the extraction and Wake up artifacts from the sunken ship, with a view to subsequent sale at auction. The same has been identified only company contractors who legally has the right to carry out this operation. OOO "Bul-bul-bul." Absurd? But exactly what is happening now. Virginia Court authorized to open the casing of "Titanic" for essentially the act of looting and plundering the common grave. And they wanted to spit on the various UNESCO resolutions there, I hope people will be dissatisfied cries less.
  40. +8
    28 June 2020 11: 41
    People, not paying attention to these "strongholds of truth", vote.

    exactly vote?

    coercion to vote, by the way, is regulated by Art. 141 of the Criminal Code.
    Today we are divided according to a completely different principle.

    of course! For those who are "for" and wants to repeat the fate of the Soviet Union, which disappeared because of tenure of power, its "ochuguneniya" and naplevatelstkogo to man, and those who do not want to repeat this and votes "Against"
    Soon we will know the result of the vote.

    without a doubt! What are the "results" of such a vote ..

    Throw ballots at least for the whole of Russia into one ballot box - who will ban and who will check! There are no observers.
    Youth is a flaw, which, unfortunately, is quickly passing.

    there is another saying: The mind comes with age, but sometimes only age comes request
    But you don’t have to break your country.

    No, because everything is already broken and stolen

    Here is just one question for the author: how can one believe in good intentions to a person who has lied, is lying and will continue to lie?
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  41. -2
    28 June 2020 11: 42
    Understanding came that “I didn’t vote for it, so I won’t be guilty of what happened later
    - denial (not taking part) of the process itself is also a point of view and attitude towards it.
    A new application - "Who does not dreams against us"? (Voice)
    There is a third option, especially when you are initially presented with a losing (not the right) option for choosing an action.
  42. 0
    28 June 2020 11: 45
    Bravo! The article also voiced my thoughts about the country and the life that we lost ... So it was - led off ...
    Although the vote itself I continue to consider meaningless ...
  43. 0
    28 June 2020 11: 47
    Quote: Malyuta
    Friends, let's clearly define ourselves without political bias, what has the government done over the past 20 years, who has governed the country all these years? You can go through personalities, you can do their work.

    Yes, do not be shy - go for a walk. And at the same time explain to the people how it happened that the two former union republics, starting with equal conditions after the collapse of the union, found themselves in such different positions: one in ruins, the other in the three that determine the future world order? The answer is simple - one lived according to your precepts, the other - contrary.
    1. -3
      28 June 2020 12: 06
      In ALL communists captured by enemies, the same thing is degradation, the impoverishment of the country and the majority of the people, the extinction of the people, in comparison with the Soviet period. And the Baltics live more or less better on the upkeep of Europe, and those former republics of the USSR that received a lot of spoiled deposits of natural resources from the USSR.
      1. 0
        28 June 2020 16: 32
        A million-strong army of Communists lay back and relaxed under a handful of democrats.
      2. -1
        28 June 2020 16: 32
        And only in one, not captured by the enemies of the Communists, is the DPRK complete prosperity. Yes, there is still Cuba, but there is the same picture.
    2. +2
      28 June 2020 12: 24
      Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
    3. -1
      28 June 2020 15: 39
      World order? At least in Ukraine, next to the order to determine.
      1. +1
        28 June 2020 21: 12
        Do you think that in the future world order such a misunderstanding as Ukraine will take place? And this is not sarcasm, just the world has changed if someone does not understand.
  44. -1
    28 June 2020 11: 50
    Well, the voting has begun, and those those who, with the stubbornness of a rhino, opposed amendments to the Constitution of Russia, already realized that they stood up against the wind.

    What are you saying ... Against amendments or against voting on amendments? Against the wind or against those who blow these winds?
    Look at people who, despite and despite not fearing and not bending their heads:

    Especially DO NOT ATTEMPT. Believe, everything will happen as it should be - not at your command.
  45. +1
    28 June 2020 11: 53
    Author overly susceptible to propaganda. First there was exposed to Western bourgeois, now - the official Kremlin, no less bourgeois. Then he was worried about a little cut package Marlborough is now worried about the "magic" amendments. Do not worry, Author! There will be no "as in Ukraine," "in Venezuela", "in Paris," "in Seattle", unless of course the current government until then will not finish, his swinish attitude to the opinion of the people.
    And so that the authorities do not consider the people a herd of sheep (if this is possible at all), it is necessary to ignore the cheap carnival "voting for amendments" imposed on us.
    (for reference: I'm 55, I served, worked, work. In my youth I wore domestic store jeans made of blue cotton fabric, listened to "Pink Floyd", "Resurrection" .... Now I wear Chinese clothes and listen mainly to classics)))) )
  46. +1
    28 June 2020 11: 54
    "But I told Seva Novgorodtsev that I am not free" - Showa never got into politics. Especially so rude and do not care. "Sevaoborot" - it separately. Just separately - HMW 12 at the price of a good Java motorcycle. Hilo is not lived, however ... We just did not have enough breath of fresh air in a stale swamp pseudo-communism, indiscriminate cronyism and bravura proclamations local bais princes. Therefore, the scent of lost, hidden and shit in the throat, "air" and did not see ... Or rather - not just prosekli. IMHO.
  47. 0
    28 June 2020 11: 58
    the author does not believe Putin ?, well, what kind of separation is this, when according to the authorities we are as one in a single rush 90% approve))) 50-50, this division of 60 by 40 well, 70 by 30 didn’t go anywhere, 80 by 20 maybe but 90 is already a statistical error, what about the separation of powers and the population on pension reform? Can it really be that the data hides, how can one then believe in the bright future of the amendments))
    1. +1
      28 June 2020 22: 15
      In Russia, recently it’s like that - who does not approve usually does not go to the polls.
  48. +1
    28 June 2020 11: 58
    It is clear that the article is a market throw under srach and holivar. But...
    I have a rhetorical question on the dual citizenship amendment: what are the chances that, with its introduction, all the bigamies from the Kremlin, government, ministries, departments, the Duma. Federation Council, state corporations, state banks, representatives of the state in private corporations, together leave their posts?
    Not, intuitively, I understand that I’ll rather move to Vorkuta myself, but still?
  49. +1
    28 June 2020 12: 03
    custom article
    1. -7
      28 June 2020 14: 32
      Here is your education. There is no such caliber. There is 7,62x54R
      1. -1
        28 June 2020 16: 21
        So there! And on the boxes and so on zinc? Stunned! Particularly "R" impressed.
        1. 0
          28 June 2020 16: 49
          "R" means "Rant". And nothing else.
  50. +8
    28 June 2020 12: 04
    Dear Mr. Staver all too simplified. Full of people who do not fit in its classification. Yes, and "fateful meeting" these amendments greatly exaggerated.
  51. -7
    28 June 2020 12: 09
    My whole family is FOR! (there are no 2 more certificates in the photo - the wife’s parents; And there is no certificate from the father - he lives outside our vast Motherland, but does not lose ties with it!);
    And to those who are campaigning not to vote, or to vote AGAINST, I want to ask a question: why are you enthusiastically pursuing exactly what the ENEMIES of our country and their special services are persistently fighting for? After all, it is stupid to call otherwise those who OFFICIALLY position themselves this way (the State Department and the US Congress officially named the Russian Federation enemy No. 1). And is it not because you have launched active efforts to fight “against Putin’s power” because the US authorities have allocated as much as 70 (000 billion) dollars from the US BUDGET to fight Putin and overthrow him? Moreover, the US Congress again (again?) proposes to allocate $000 to “contain Russia” - read, to fight it! In light of these facts, you smell bad, gentlemen! That is why they will soon shy away from you like a pile of crap! You've lit up! It won’t be long until EVERY citizen of Russia considers it a duty to spit in your direction! You will be looking for the fifth corner! Traitors have always been hated in Rus'. And there is no doubt that you are TRAITORS - it was the survey on transforming the colonial Constitution into the Basic Law of the Sovereign State that was the “spotlight” that “illuminated your rotten insides! And the question of “nullification” - well, I and all my family - FOR! Especially if you compare the state of the country (deep “ass”), which was on the eve of V.V. Putin’s assumption of the powers of the President, in 000, and now. Nowadays Russia (and this is a generally recognized fact!) - THE MOST powerful state on the planet! Of course, there are still problems, but they can be solved. And it is changes in the Constitution that will speed up their solution. And, thank God, the “vaccination of the 70s” had an effect, and our people have developed immunity against “Western values” stable. So, your efforts, gentlemen, supporting the enemy with your efforts, are in vain! Look, don’t screw yourself! Although, the bad smell from you is ALREADY spreading in all directions!
    1. -4
      28 June 2020 14: 36
      You are right and how the hell do I agree with you. Only this biomass will change shoes in flight as usual. Telling that they were misunderstood. These people are the same ones who destroyed the USSR. Now they are trying to shake Russia.
    2. 0
      28 June 2020 14: 40
      Quote: Igor Aviator
      why are you enthusiastically pursuing exactly what the ENEMIES of our country and their intelligence services are persistently fighting for?

      Of course, I understand that you are a demagogue. But this comment, by and large, does not apply to you. Tell me, adept of capitalism. If tomorrow Trump says that 2+2=4. To spite him, will you count it as 5? There’s no point in pointing out personalities here. Your likes and dislikes are not a criterion of truth.
    3. -1
      28 June 2020 16: 38
      It’s too late, my friend, it’s too late: they have already received this money, the time has come to earn it back. Nothing personal, it's just business
    4. 0
      28 June 2020 18: 22
      And who got this money? laughing I hope you understand that it’s not for fools like Lyolik? Or don't you understand?
      For example, a woman with the post of Minister of Labor is approached: let’s also allocate at least 16 bucks for children aged 17 and 160 years old? And he: let them go on foot to work. Well, who is the enemy?
    5. 0
      28 June 2020 22: 08
      Quote: Igor Aviator
      My whole family is FOR!
      I’m not quoting you in many ways... Think about how many precious rubles all this cost? Agitation and propaganda for the “approval of the amendments” by all media persons, the purchase of masks against the backdrop of hysteria about the “self-isolation virus” pandemic at completely speculative prices, “disposable” pens, printing, gloves, bags, etc. (in fact, they could have given it to everyone at the beginning of the “epidemic” in the country). This is superimposed on an increase in the retirement age, VAT, and, accordingly, prices for EVERYTHING, a fall in oil prices, and a decrease in tax revenues. Isn't this a Feast DURING THE PLAGUE? Just because the Constitution needs to be changed right now?
    6. 0
      28 June 2020 23: 30
      Does your father receive a Russian pension?
    7. -1
      29 June 2020 14: 52
      You and your family have no brains, no conscience, no honor
  52. +3
    28 June 2020 12: 11
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    and I won’t let mine in

    So you think it’s normal to prohibit others from having their own opinions? And then why are you better than Putin? What will you do with your loved ones who still go? Will you throw me out naked into the street?
  53. +4
    28 June 2020 12: 28
    Quote: Coward
    Do you have evidence of your assurances? If so, why don’t you spread it? What are you afraid of? Or do you hope to get closer to the feeder due to this evidence? Although most likely you have no evidence and you are an ordinary provocateur.

    Proof? If the polling station is the trunk of a car, and the ballot box is a plastic bag, there are no problems... live with hopes... May I remind you of the parliamentary elections with a turnout of 146%, which were shown on federal TV?
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 22: 21
      It was in 2011 in the Rostov region that there was an obvious error when displaying information on the board on air or in the studio online, they quickly sent it without even looking at what they were sending.
  54. -2
    28 June 2020 12: 29
    We are opponents, competitors, enemies.
    It is what it is. And at the age of 18 (1991) it seemed that everything was over, the end of the Cold War - how we could become friends now, how we could live in peace and harmony...
    And then there was the army. Which really set my mind straight.
    Was. I corrected it. More precisely strengthened, thanks
    good commanders, the realization that “everything is completely different,” and we won’t make friends at all, because our very existence as an independent, independent state makes any friendship with smiling guys from over the hill simply unrealistic. Subsequent events confirmed this.
    I support the enemy’s point of view, but I want my own happiness. It doesn't happen that way.
    It happens, it happens, but this is partly from the field of psychiatry, and partly through the FSB. Yes And yes, they want happiness not for “theirs” and not for “ours,” but exclusively for their loved ones. And happiness for them is only the satisfaction of their own desires, and sometimes momentary ones. Network philistines of the marginal persuasion, that’s what they are. laughing Okay, the devil be with them, because at all times there were enough “alternatives” - be it a bunch of nobles in gilded epaulettes or gangs of sailors with a skull on their flag and cocaine in their nostrils. The current “protesters” make a very pitiful impression, causing no emotions other than disgust. At times, however, they are amusing, but they quickly become boring, because they begin to hustle in circles, spinning worn-out records.
    Youth is a flaw, which, unfortunately, is quickly passing.
    Unfortunately, not everyone does, because there are plenty of over-aged infantiles with the mentality of teenagers, but these are exceptions that only confirm the rule. hi
  55. +4
    28 June 2020 12: 36
    No opponents
    You write that “there are no opponents” and then throughout the article you begin to denounce these opponents. This is fine?
    The understanding has come that “I didn’t vote for this, which means I won’t be to blame for what happened later,” no longer goes away. It’s impossible to sit still.
    Yes, you won’t be able to sit it out, but you won’t be able to get dirty.
    Look how many Western politicians have spoken out about the Russian constitution
    Is that a lot? But somehow I haven’t come across it. Would it be difficult for you to provide links to at least a dozen of their statements?
    It would be possible to spend a long time analyzing the tensions and distortions in the article, but it’s not worth it
    1. +1
      28 June 2020 14: 41
      Quote: bk0010
      You write that “there are no opponents” and then throughout the article you begin to denounce these opponents. This is fine?

      Quite enough for a demagogue.
  56. +2
    28 June 2020 13: 01
    Young people, listen to us old farts. We have already voted with our hearts, as advised from the West. It's time to vote not against the authorities, but against the West. To start.
    Nuland with livers Against, which means I'm definitely in favor.
    1. +2
      28 June 2020 15: 51
      Quote: hhhhhhh
      It's time to vote not against the authorities, but against the West.
      Are they offering us something “anti-Western” to vote on? No. In the economic part, the West should be opposed to turning the central bank into a state bank, and in the social part, it should be a ban on juvenile justice. Is there anything similar? No. Well, maybe they will at least tighten control over currency flows, as they did under Primakov, when the country got out of the hole of default and a three-fold fall in the ruble exchange rate in a couple of years? Also no. They propose to vote for the legal equivalent of beads for savages. In those articles that could really influence the life of the country if people suddenly began to pay attention to the constitution, hooks were specially made for them to be painlessly bypassed.
      1. -2
        28 June 2020 15: 53
        Quote: bk0010
        Are they offering us something “anti-Western” to vote on? No.

        You really want paradise right away. The October Revolution of 1917 only ended in 1929, and we didn’t even have October yet.))))
        1. +1
          28 June 2020 15: 55
          Well then there is no need to organize a farce. The Constitution is not something that needs to be rewritten all the time.
          1. +2
            28 June 2020 15: 57
            Quote: bk0010
            Well then there is no need to organize a farce. The Constitution is not something that needs to be rewritten all the time.

            This is an Announcement. We put it on yours. It will go for a ride, the central bank will be taken away.
    2. 0
      28 June 2020 16: 25
      Quote: hhhhhhh
      Young people, listen to us old farts. We have already voted with our hearts, as advised from the West. It's time to vote not against the authorities, but against the West. To start.
      Nuland with livers Against, which means I'm definitely in favor.


      If the West criticizes, then we are doing the right thing, but if it praises, we should think about it... Yes
    3. 0
      29 June 2020 16: 58
      Quote: hhhhhhh
      Young people, listen to us old farts.

      Yes, the fact of the matter is that precisely here those who are against are also a kind of “old farts,” but, for the most part, they have not gotten rid of childish immaturity, or they are completely confused people. There are, of course, those that are tightly broken off, but these are “decomposition products.” And the youngsters don’t come here very often - if only to read. hi
  57. +8
    28 June 2020 13: 26
    It is useless to argue or debate with Staver. He still doesn't hear anything. Or maybe he doesn’t see it.
    They don't build on ruins. They are built on a specially prepared site. A normal owner will never destroy what has been built if there is an opportunity to modify, modernize, improve...

    You, dear author, didn’t feel anything when you wrote these lines?
    Did the falseness and duality of this statement affect the cursive writing?
    Have I, forever and ever, been given the opportunity to talk, in absentia in an article, with the OWNER!
    Can I call you with aspiration - OWNER!

    OK. Jokes and sarcasm aside.
    A normal owner, and this is a current title in the country today, will not allow someone, even a very gifted one, even a super smart one, to start “refining, modernizing, improving.”
    The reason for this owner’s attitude towards external irritants (and you are an irritant for any owner) is simple - he has his own plans for his property.
    And he needs you and your competence “like a hare needs a stop sign.”

    So what and where can you, with your irrepressible energy, “rework, modernize, improve”?
    At home, in your garage, at your dacha, in your car (if you have all that).
    And then, with an eye to the requirements of the law and rules.

    Do you want to try to improve the judicial system (Kakhaleva in memory), the Ministry of Internal Affairs (Zakharchenko in memory), the FSB (Cherkalin in memory) and further down the list (surnames in memory)?
    On a voluntary basis, so to speak.
    I'd like to see how this turns out for you.

    In the Russian Federation, people, the population, citizens are cut off both from government and from the means of production.
    And as soon as an individual begins to engage in his own business, with an eye to the fact that he will become wealthy, and this will improve the well-being of the state, tax collectors immediately appear who explain to him in an accessible form how not to dream and fantasize.
    The state, represented by the executive, legislative, judicial and other authorities, knows where your place is.
    I won't be rude.
    We don't know each other personally.
    But technically, step by step, we were brought to the point that “we are NOBODY here, and our names are all NOBODY.”
    And here you are publishing articles calling for maintaining the status quo. And you agitate us, the orphans and the wretched, slurping cabbage soup with our bast shoes, for amendments.

    And laughter and sin.
    A letter from State Services arrives in the mail.
    They write without any hesitation.

    "Hello,________________!
    On Wednesday, July 1, a significant event in the life of the country will take place - a nationwide vote on the approval of changes to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Everyone's voice matters.
    Vote at your polling station in advance from June 25 to June 30, or directly on election day, July 1, from 08:00 to 20:00 local time. Don't forget to take your passport with you....

    It can’t even occur to them (the authorities) that I might not approve of these amendments.
    There could be many reasons for my reluctance?
    Those. All-Russian voting on the issue of APPROVAL of the amendments is scheduled!
    No other or different is given.
    After all, just take away the word “approval” and the ground would be knocked out from under my feet.
    So comrade (or mister?) Staver, vote.
    And don't rebel.
    "The first riot, you have already lost!"
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 15: 58
      Quote: demo
      A normal owner will never destroy what has been built if there is an opportunity to modify, modernize, improve...

      Sometimes it's good to tear it down and start again.
      1. +2
        28 June 2020 16: 51
        I understand that this is advice to Staver?
      2. 0
        28 June 2020 23: 19
        Quote: hhhhhhh
        Sometimes it's good to tear it down and start again.

        I wish I could blow your head off! And to say - so it was! It would be VERY USEFUL!
        1. 0
          29 June 2020 08: 51
          Quote: Igor Aviator
          I wish I could blow your head off! And to say - so it was! It would be VERY USEFUL!
          We would still ride horses and plow with plows.
    2. -4
      28 June 2020 23: 28
      A lot of words, but, in general, ILLITERATIVE! Troll, you are in trouble! from the point of view of the rules of the Russian language, the word “approval” in this context means the voting PROCESS, and not its RESULT! Just during the voting PROCESS, a citizen can approve something. and reject the adoption of the amendments! So. There is no ground under your feet, dear troll, from the very beginning! (I would love to knock the stool out from under your feet!...)
      1. +2
        29 June 2020 06: 37
        Mr. Aviator (Igor).
        This linguistic “pearl” is a copy of what I received in the mail.
        Have you not comprehended what and where it was taken and provided from?
        I didn't change or add anything.
        I wanted to focus the attention of those who will read on the semantic and ethical context of the “invitation” that came.
        Any comments on this part of my comment?
        If they do, then do it.
        As for the word “troll,” I’ll say it in the words of V. Vysotsky.
        “And from the bushes he called the wolf a bastard.”
        Don't throw around epithets and don't use labels.
        Respect your opponent's opinion.
        Do not cross the boundaries of what is permitted.
        Know how to convincingly prove your case, if any.
        And don’t poke at strangers who may simply be older than you.

        And the last.
        About “knocking the stool out from under your feet.”
        I will switch to the construction-barracks language that is accessible to me.
        I have seen this in my life.
        Many decades have passed, but this sight has not been erased from memory.
        The chill is still creeping across my skin.
        You would first practice on dolls and mannequins. There the process is reversible.
        And only then would he become an executioner.
        And then you see, when it comes to the scaffold, they will carry you in their arms to pump you out.
        To me, you are a puppy barking from the bushes, trying to imitate an evil dog.
        Calm down and dry yourself.
        You are my heroic one.

        Available?
        From now on, think about what you write and to whom.
  58. +4
    28 June 2020 13: 26
    Quote: ANDREI MIKHAILOV_2
    I voted for amendments to the Constitution.

    Have you been given a "carrot"? lol
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 15: 59
      What are you voting for?)))
  59. +3
    28 June 2020 13: 29
    I voted for amendments to the Constitution.
    1. +4
      28 June 2020 16: 23
      That's right, I also voted for.
  60. +6
    28 June 2020 13: 33
    The author has a nasty mess in his head! He cries for the country he screwed up and votes for those who destroyed this country and continue to plunder its heritage and destroy our people. A complete oxymoron.
    1. +1
      28 June 2020 13: 39
      “I want something incomprehensible: either the constitution or stellate sturgeon with horseradish...” (Classic)
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    3. +2
      28 June 2020 16: 22
      Quote: Old Tanker
      The author has a nasty mess in his head! He cries for the country he screwed up and votes for those who destroyed this country and continue to plunder its heritage and destroy our people. A complete oxymoron.



      What do you propose, to destroy the country to the ground again so that it can survive piece by piece?
    4. 0
      28 June 2020 19: 20
      Didn’t you know that this happens in life? There is a very significant difference. Our government may be bad, but it is ours. And ultimately, the people, namely the people, and not the population, can influence it.
      But we will definitely never be able to influence the world behind the scenes. She doesn’t care at all about Russians as such; if they don’t exist, it will be even better.
      That's why I voted for the amendments.
    5. +1
      28 June 2020 19: 21
      It's a mess in your head! A person simply does not want shocks.
  61. +2
    28 June 2020 13: 51
    You read and think what an abomination, what distortion, hypocrisy, but this is a staver. Everything fell into place...
  62. +5
    28 June 2020 14: 17
    Not an article, but some kind of farce, too flaccid for propaganda, and the name is Rebel (excuse me, in what riot and what year did you participate?) - all this is not serious belay
  63. BAI
    -2
    28 June 2020 14: 18
    There was once an article here (on the website) that the state caved in, failed to cope with the blocking of Telegram and canceled its decision. And literally 2-3 days later on TV they showed materials from some anonymous “investigative bloggers” who revealed the Telegram correspondence of some “comrades”.
    This means, firstly, the correspondence in Telegram was opened not by the special services, but by anonymous “investigative bloggers”. The intelligence services failed, the state “backed down,” but the bloggers did. Interesting, of course, but that’s not the point.
    Second. What's in the correspondence? And this is correspondence between Russian deputies of small towns and American “centers for the promotion of democracy.” And for this “promotion of democracy” by our deputies, American organizations pay them from 2000 to 20 dollars a month, plus free internships in countries with “developed democracies.” With the attachment of invoices, amounts, “agreements” (recommendations on what to do) and other financial documents. $000 in a provincial town! Per month! No taxes! Yes, for that kind of money, let alone the Motherland, they would sell their own mother. What is the price list for deputies of regional and State Dumas who promote American democracy to the masses?
    This is for thematic amendments to the Constitution.
    1. -1
      28 June 2020 20: 43
      Have you opened the correspondence in Telegram? This is physically impossible, so what you are rubbing in here is pure fakery
      1. BAI
        -1
        29 June 2020 01: 32
        Turn on your brains. The state gained access, and therefore dropped the claims. Hence the information from the “bloggers”. Nobody hacked anything. Stakeholders received everything on a silver platter.
    2. +2
      29 June 2020 07: 21
      Quote: BAI


      Quote: BAI
      There was once an article here (on the website) that the state caved in, failed to cope with the blocking of Telegram and canceled its decision. And literally 2-3 days later on TV they showed materials from some anonymous “investigative bloggers” who revealed the Telegram correspondence of some “comrades”.
      This means, firstly, the correspondence in Telegram was opened not by the special services, but by anonymous “investigative bloggers”. The intelligence services failed, the state “backed down,” but the bloggers did. Interesting, of course, but that’s not the point.
      Second. What's in the correspondence? And this is correspondence between Russian deputies of small towns and American “centers for the promotion of democracy.” And for this “promotion of democracy” by our deputies, American organizations pay them from 2000 to 20 dollars a month, plus free internships in countries with “developed democracies.” With the attachment of invoices, amounts, “agreements” (recommendations on what to do) and other financial documents. $000 in a provincial town! Per month! No taxes! Yes, for that kind of money, let alone the Motherland, they would sell their own mother. What is the price list for deputies of regional and State Dumas who promote American democracy to the masses?
      This is for thematic amendments to the Constitution.

      there is a strong desire to read. naturally with last names. otherwise they opened it, exposed it, and paid. and, preferably, a link to the transaction for the payment of the above amounts. because bloggers know everything.
  64. 0
    28 June 2020 14: 28
    Good day to all readers of military review. I would like to leave my opinion on this matter. When it comes to amendments and it is heard from all sides that the authorities are to blame, I would like objectivity. Taking into account the fact that readers are far from stupid people, and it’s good if they are critical of all information, and do not choose one thing for themselves without seeing the other, let’s figure it out together and answer the question for ourselves, who is to blame and what to do. Let's return to the question of power, what exactly is meant, judicial, executive or legislative power, federal or regional local bodies. Many people do not like the deputies sitting in the Duma, while these many do not even suspect that the same elected deputies sit in the regions, and that the regions have their own local governments and ministers. Yes, they have less powers, but for example, do you know the difference in the minimum wage in Moscow and neighboring regions? The decision was made by local authorities, taking into account the fact that they do not contradict federal laws. But here there is room for freedom of maneuver, it turns out. As the famous comedian said, “was it even possible?” Can anyone tell me what is being decided at the local level, for example, the consumer basket and the transport tax. This system was not built by Putin, and the people sitting there, and there are tens of thousands of them, he did not personally lead by the hand, and he cannot do anything with them, they are the people’s representatives. What role does Putin play in forming the government? He himself appoints ministers. Now he wants to give this right to parliament, why? It’s just that the appointment of those ministers took place taking into account agreements with financial and industrial groups, macro parameters depend on them, they organize jobs, etc. but in case of failure, it was the president who turned out to be the last one. Now let the thought think. Correct amendment? I think yes. Let's look further, retirement age. We all laugh or are sad, but we see what is happening in Ukraine. Where, according to the recommendations of international organizations, the IMF, etc. utility tariffs were raised. Do you think it's different with us? Raising the retirement age is an IMF recommendation. What methods they use to achieve the implementation of their recommendations can be assumed. But they have all the finances and I think there is no chance to resist. And the document brought to the president for signature is required by law to sign. There is such a law. Make minor amendments, but sign, which is what was done. Do we need amendments to the constitution so that international legislation does not take precedence? I think yes again. Is it necessary for the president to send laws for review to the constitutional court before signing them? Of course yes. Do we need amendments about who will hold the position of president? A little more about corruption and theft in power, this is bad, this is a crime. Remember what words are attributed to Peter I: “anyone who steals from the treasury for as much as a rope will cost will be hanged on the same rope...” while his closest ally Menshikov stole, without hiding at all, two budgets of the Russian Empire, at least this is what that they found him after Peter’s death. Can all this time be called a stagnant and depressive time for Russia? And let us remember Catherine the Great, who gave her friends villages, towns, cities, with thousands of peasant souls, Orlovs, Potemkin Zubov, etc., worth millions of rubles of that time. Oddly enough, this did not affect the development of the country; some may think that it is even the other way around. So let’s not mix everything together, and make a decision on amendments not based on tips from the Internet, but after a thorough analysis of the entire situation. Taking into account the above, even the correction with zeroing does not look at all scary, I would even say so, once I started doing it, let him finish it to the end. If I'm wrong about anything, please correct me.
    1. +5
      28 June 2020 14: 42
      The fact that corruption and theft in general is not bad at all and does not interfere with the development of the country, and sometimes is useful, is quite clear from your comment
      1. +2
        28 June 2020 14: 56
        I would like to get to the point. why YES or why NO with arguments and examples, perhaps from history or the experience of other countries. I am not imposing anything on anyone, I just urge you to look more broadly and in a historical context
        1. -3
          28 June 2020 22: 44
          Quote: mechanic33
          I would like to get to the point. why YES or why NO with arguments and examples, perhaps from history or the experience of other countries. I am not imposing anything on anyone, I just urge you to look more broadly and in a historical context

          And you yourself are so illiterate that you cannot evaluate what WILL be beneficial to the Russian state, and what NOT? Do you need to chew everything? So maybe you are incompetent? Then what relation can you have to voting? Kindergarten, honestly! Victim of social networks! Can’t do the simplest thing - compare Russia 91-2000 and Russia today? Judge by deeds, by results! Or were you not there at that time? Then - for sure, kindergarten! I would also limit the right to vote in the constitution - I would introduce an age limit - A MINIMUM of 40 years!
          1. +2
            28 June 2020 23: 13
            [quote=Quote: mechanic33
            I would like to get to the point. why YES or why NO with arguments and examples, perhaps from history or the experience of other countries. I am not imposing anything on anyone, I just urge you to look more broadly and in a historical context Igor Aviator]And you yourself are so illiterate that you cannot assess what WILL benefit the state Russian, and what NOT? Do you need to chew everything? So maybe you are incompetent? Then what relation can you have to voting? Kindergarten, honestly! Victim of social networks! Can’t do the simplest thing - compare Russia 91-2000 and Russia today? Judge by deeds, by results! Or were you not there at that time? Then - for sure, kindergarten! I would also limit the right to vote in the constitution - I would introduce an age limit - MINIMUM 40 years![/quote]
            Mechanic, I apologize - I didn’t see your previous detailed comment - I accidentally scrolled past and didn’t notice it. But I came across this one, and, angry, mistook you for a troll! Once again - I apologize! Your position on the essence of the amendments is very close to me. I don’t consider Putin “equal to God,” but I really respect his patriotism and intelligence. Although, I think that “in the heat of the fight” for Russia, he made mistakes - an error-free struggle with such a sophisticated “partner”, which is the corrupt nomenklatura, fused with large businesses managed “from over the hill,” is impossible. But, according to this, Putin holds the cards in his hands, correct the mistakes and complete the transformations that have begun! Moreover, apparently he can do it!
            1. +1
              30 June 2020 20: 50
              Igor, everything is fine, I understood everything, but passions are running high, it’s true. Good luck to you!
      2. -1
        28 June 2020 22: 51
        Dear Revival, judging by your comments today. Today is not your day. There are obvious signs of dyslexia (if it is not clear - a mental disorder), or extremely unsuccessful attempts to troll. I won’t write more - I don’t want to take the psychiatrist’s bread. For this, I bow out!
        1. 0
          29 June 2020 00: 24
          Is foam dripping? Or it’s just burnt, otherwise you’re being rude and that’s all...
          Goodbye troll!
  65. +2
    28 June 2020 14: 31
    Those who vote against or boycott thought that they were expressing their protest to the “nullified”. But then the American embassy put up a flag and showed what they REALLY stand for.
    1. +3
      28 June 2020 16: 16
      And they hung such flags all over the world, showing where the whole world should move. I really believe that Russia will not fall for this...
      1. +4
        28 June 2020 16: 41
        A very interesting investigation was published the other day. How are states funding all this anti-amendment activity? Among other things, significant funds were allocated for work on the network (creating and promoting memes, collages, videos, etc.). I immediately remember how commentators on many resources (including VO) suddenly became born comedians. All these jokes, pictures...
        1. +1
          28 June 2020 16: 56
          This is true and they are working against us in full force.
  66. +6
    28 June 2020 14: 37
    “I am a rebel who has already exchanged my country for beautiful packaging once.”

    Everything about this article title is great!
    He changed the country for packaging, and now continues to fight for packaging and promote it?
    So chtoli?
    Great confession!?
    1. -1
      28 June 2020 22: 31
      Quote: Revival
      He changed the country for packaging, and now continues to fight for packaging and promote it?
      So chtoli?
      Great confession!?

      Another one with signs of dyslexia (see my comments below), or a very weak troll, an illiterate loser, capable, at most, of taking a phrase out of context and “sucking” it. To school, ignoramus!
  67. 0
    28 June 2020 14: 47
    I am eighty years old and I understand very well what the author writes about. Yes, as they say: “If youth knew everything, if old age could do everything!”
    1. +3
      28 June 2020 16: 14
      But we need to tell them, whether they will believe it or not, this is the second question, but we must do it. It’s easy to break a country, but what then?
      1. +3
        28 June 2020 21: 23
        Quote: cniza
        It’s easy to break a country, but what then?

        You want to ask the Banderlogs “what then?” When Ukraine was being destroyed for “the path to Europe and lace panties,” did all those jumping think? They had nothing to think about! So are these. which “Baba Yaga is against” - simple show-off and hype are boiling in their brains - “down with Puten!” Intelligence and physiology of young baboons. best case scenario! And at worst, they are fools who, for the most part, have been fooled on social networks (remember who organized and controlled by face book, VK! I’ll give you a hint - there is such a service as the NSA (national security agency). And now they are using their youthful stupidity, nihilism and protest potential “in the dark”!
    2. 0
      28 June 2020 21: 12
      Quote: bratchanin3
      I am eighty years old and I understand very well what the author writes about. Yes, as they say: “If youth knew everything, if old age could do everything!”

      Unfortunately, the author’s opponents are so young and stupid that they consider actions under enemy dictation and betrayal to be valor.
      1. +3
        29 June 2020 01: 10
        There is no such thing as ignorant enemy betrayal!
        Or do you have difficulty formulating coherent phrases? Happens...
  68. +2
    28 June 2020 14: 50
    “A normal owner will never destroy what has been built if there is an opportunity to modify, modernize, improve...”
    The author tell this to the reformers of the healthcare system, who now need to stretch the number of sick people through “self-isolation”, which is not even in the law, but like “you need to understand”, since there are not enough beds and special hospitals, the very ones that were proudly cut
    1. -1
      28 June 2020 20: 41
      Sometimes it’s easier to bulldoze the old one and only then build a new one.
      1. 0
        28 June 2020 22: 05
        Yeah, it’s obviously just like what happened with medicine, but who’s crying that now we have to stretch it out, otherwise there’s not enough space?
        1. -2
          28 June 2020 22: 22
          They are doing everything right. Without all these measures, no medicine in the world is able to provide beds for Covid patients.
          1. +3
            29 June 2020 01: 08
            And it is especially incapable if before this it actively reduces these beds along with infectious diseases hospitals.
            Give examples of downsized hospitals or do you know?
    2. -5
      28 June 2020 21: 26
      Another one!... Yes, your head is simply in trouble! Here, indeed, medicine is powerless!
      1. +2
        28 June 2020 22: 07
        Your head is clearly normal, it won’t hurt to live, you walk and rejoice and smile and smile...
  69. +5
    28 June 2020 14: 52
    Author, stop, stop changing the country for beautiful packaging
  70. +7
    28 June 2020 15: 05
    Another rabid propaganda. I watch them on TV, running from channel to channel, and in the end, after about five minutes I turn it off.
    Still here now.
    The West, against the amendments, means “That one is not with us - that one is against us!”
    A kind of neo-Bolshevism.
    I (and Putin/Medvedev/United Russia/Matvienko/Volodin) - well done! And who is against it - Navalny's hirelings...
    Personal experience, however, convinces me otherwise: these are the same bulk ones, only not so stupid and arrogant, they will feed us pieces: medicine, education, culture, and the police - the cry... The USSR did nothing, it just lay on the stove, produced galoshes...
    And no one loved animals, they just tortured everyone, and the registry office is a mess - even if you come with a goat, they’ll get you married!
    In short, good things don’t start with such complete lies.
    This means that we will have not what we are told, but something else.
    And which one?
    “You’ll find out later,” one character from the Rurikovichs used to say to the Novgorod democrats.
    1. -1
      28 June 2020 19: 05
      That's why people should be smarter than ghouls.
    2. -3
      28 June 2020 22: 20
      Quote: faterdom
      Personal experience, however, convinces me otherwise: these are the same bulk ones, only not so stupid and arrogant, they will feed us pieces: medicine, education, culture, and the police - the cry... The USSR did nothing, it just lay on the stove, produced galoshes...
      And no one loved animals, they just tortured everyone, and the registry office is a mess - even if you come with a goat, they’ll get you married!

      Didn't you gain personal experience at Kanatchikova's dacha, by any chance? In terms of presentation - very similar! In my work I have had the opportunity to meet guys like you. Duty of service obligated them to promptly recognize their symptoms and excommunicate them from operating military equipment...
  71. +8
    28 June 2020 15: 43
    Quote: tomket
    I’ll give everyone howling about the constitution of Borka the Drunkard a simple example...
    The current successor was made by Borka the drunk, every year the guarantor goes to “pray” at the Yeltsin Center and express his feelings to his wife... Nothing bothers you - inconsistent Are you ours? lol wassat tongue
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      1. +5
        29 June 2020 00: 09
        Quote: Igor Aviator
        Didn't you gain personal experience at Kanatchikova's dacha, by any chance?

        Quote: Igor Aviator
        I don’t want to take the psychiatrist’s bread.

        Quote: Igor Aviator
        You don’t need to go to VO, but to Kashchenko, for a lobotomy! !

        Quote: Igor Aviator
        Another one!... Yes, your head is simply in trouble! Here, indeed, medicine is powerless!

        Are we discussing amendments, or chamber number six? Otherwise, it seems that you are a regular at Kashchenko and Kanatchikova’s dacha.
    2. +2
      28 June 2020 22: 32
      They asked Borka, the drunkard, to become the successor of the current one. We strongly asked. No one has ever left such a post voluntarily.
  72. +6
    28 June 2020 15: 46
    Rebel? For beautiful packaging?
    Those. Is modern Russia just beautiful packaging? And we have to vote for the packaging, not the content?
    Did I understand the author correctly?
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 22: 03
      Quote: Hazarov
      Those. Is modern Russia just beautiful packaging? And we have to vote for the packaging, not the content?

      I, of course, am not a doctor, but, like any Soviet officer who was trained at a higher educational institution, and who studied, among other things, the basics of military psychology, I believe that you have signs of dyslexia.
      The author said that in pursuit of pictures "happy Western life" did not defend his native country in the 90s, in fact, he committed a betrayal. Thus, he gave US ALL a warning - not to repeat his mistakes! Although, if you are just trying to "pull an owl onto the globe", like a troll, having heard and taking a convenient phrase out of context - you will FAIL! You are an illiterate loser...
      1. -1
        29 June 2020 12: 46
        Mr. Aviator, you are too cheerful for a Soviet officer, your jargon is more like the granddaughter of an officer, you are rude, write irrelevantly, get attached to words, get to the bottom of every forum member. Typical, crazy troll, we don’t know how he got into VO
  73. +4
    28 June 2020 15: 57
    The phone doesn’t pick up the volume of 502 comments. Let me just say that the USSR was destroyed not because the Author wanted jeans, chewing gum and salami, but because the ministers wanted a Mercedes, a villa in Miami and an American registration. What now, based on the capabilities of the goldfish? For some reason the author did not share.
    1. -3
      28 June 2020 17: 13
      And who didn’t allow them to do this? If the Soviet communists wanted, then they too, as enemies of the communists in power in the republics of the USSR they captured, could become the richest people and build luxurious real estate for themselves.
      1. 0
        28 June 2020 21: 48
        Quote: tatra
        the Soviet communists wanted, then they too could, as enemies of the communists, be in power in the republics of the USSR they captured,

        Young man, what kind of nonsense are you talking about here? It would be better not to disgrace ourselves, but to study, at least a little, the history of our country! Victim of the Unified State Exam, honestly!
        1. 0
          29 June 2020 03: 37
          What kind of nonsense is this? Nobody stopped the Soviet communists in power from becoming exactly the same rich people as the enemies of the communists in power became in the republics of the USSR you captured. And for this they did not need to destroy the USSR at all.
          1. -1
            29 June 2020 05: 50
            Quote: tatra
            And for this they did not need to destroy the USSR at all

            Irina. The destruction of the USSR was planned from the beginning of its creation. These plans were hatched by those guys from Genoa who put the whole world on IOUs.
            The USSR and its socialist system were not ideal. There were no examples, no experience. But throughout this time it has shown that it is dangerous to fight socialism openly. It was then, starting with the National Assembly, that a policy of bribery, flattery and blackmail began to be pursued.
            The weak and weak-willed leaders of the CPSU could no longer abandon the created model, and it, like a snowball, collected both good and bad.
            It was “from a distance” that the mistakes and blunders of the CPSU leadership became visible. And when people began to oppose the decisions of the party, they meant only the bureaucracy of the Central Committee, and to preserve the country they expressed their opinion in a referendum.
            Today it is completely clear to me that a peaceful, legal change of formations is impossible. No one will leave the feeding trough. This government does not even imagine what outcome awaits it. She is simply unable to speak honestly with the people, forgetting that the country is not limited to the borders of the Moscow Ring Road and the Moscow Region. But it will no longer be possible to pull the strings and lie blatantly, as Potanin did.
            I read one clever thought here that deserves attention. To reduce the intensity of passions, all Putin needed to do was to “reset” his deadlines as a separate clause.
            And today it turned out like in the “famous gift sets” from the times of Soviet trade:
            Three rolls of toilet paper and 6 kg dumbbells to boot... laughing
            1. -2
              29 June 2020 06: 10
              Yes, the enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR proved by their example that the internal enemies of the country and people, if they pretend to be their own, are much more terrible for the country and people than the most powerful external enemies. The USSR resisted when it was attacked by a united Europe led by Hitler, when after World War II the West unleashed an economic and aggressive information war against the USSR, and destroyed the USSR - “one man,” as the enemies of the USSR like to say - Gorbachev, who pretended to be for 30 years "a faithful communist." It was he who gave freedom to the enemies of the USSR, including the separatists, he, under the spell that he was building “socialism with a human face,” immediately began to replace real, by conviction, communists in the highest echelons of power with people like him, and not one of the excuses Gorbachev - is not able to prove how the USSR could have been destroyed WITHOUT him.
    2. -2
      28 June 2020 19: 01
      It is incorrect to compare ordinary people and people with responsibility. The collapse of the USSR was led by an extremely low-quality ruling class. Suffice it to recall the last Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
      1. +2
        28 June 2020 21: 45
        Not only that, but also the high-quality work of the US intelligence services with the absolute connivance and passivity of the masses who DID NOT WANT to defend the INTERESTS OF THE STATE. Thank God, the “vaccination of the 90s” turned out to be very effective, and “European values” or “values ​​of true democracy” did not take root with us!
        1. 0
          29 June 2020 00: 01
          This is also, but secondary.
  74. +3
    28 June 2020 16: 10
    But you don’t have to break your country.


    This is the main value we have.
  75. +2
    28 June 2020 16: 21
    Quote: hhhhhhh
    What are you voting for?)))

    At all? For common sense... . wink
  76. +5
    28 June 2020 17: 14
    Quote: Gardamir
    here you are being rude.

    Specify, where is the rudeness? winked
  77. -4
    28 June 2020 18: 07
    Good article, to the point! But, judging by the number of alien bots, as well as a bunch of local schizophrenic crybabies, not everyone in the army has had their brains straightened out. The above listed category probably beat off the latter. ..
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 18: 26
      Did they “set your brains right” in the army that you must always support the Yeltsin-Putin government in everything and insult dissidents?
      1. -5
        28 June 2020 21: 32
        Quote: tatra
        Did they “set your brains right” in the army that you must always support the Yeltsin-Putin government in everything and insult dissidents?

        No, for me personally, my personal experience (and service in the USSR Armed Forces and, later, the Russian Armed Forces) tells me that in conditions of war (and now a REAL WAR is being waged against our country), provocateurs and traitors, in an emergency situation that cannot be delayed , the commander has the right, even the OBLIGATION (!), to shoot on the spot, simply by bringing him out in front of the formation, in order to preserve the combat effectiveness of the unit.
      2. +1
        29 June 2020 04: 11
        “dissidents” always do this, and when they are answered in the same style, they begin to remember the insults.
        I suggest they do it in the style of their favorite soviet snitching - write out a complaint!))) There should be only flexing crybabies and hohlobots with the “correct” opinion left here. "Fseprapalaavotvsssr was better"!
        History shows that the country’s worst “ass” came when “liberal improvement-experimenters who for the better lot of the people” were allowed too much. That's why I'm allergic to your opinion.
        1. -4
          29 June 2020 04: 47
          Yes, with your “freedom of speech”, which the enemies of the communists during the USSR so craved, you all proved that you are fierce totalitarians who hate dissidents. You only have your opinion, and there is a wrong one. At the same time, neither in 70 years under Soviet power, nor in 30 years after you captured the republics of the USSR, have you offered anything or anyone useful to your country and people. And they did nothing useful for their country and people.
          1. +1
            2 July 2020 03: 20
            Yes Yes . In the USSR, of course, dissidents were not marinated in madhouses... yes, yes.
    2. 0
      29 June 2020 12: 55
      Mykolka, by the way, you work together with an aviator, the daughter of an officer. And most importantly, both love psychiatry. Probably in one ward they studied while sitting on the push laughing
  78. +3
    28 June 2020 18: 54
    Quote: major147
    Quote: Reptiloid
    . The people felt this lie, felt that there was no more equality ......

    That is why they went against the USSR under the slogan "For social justice."

    The slogan labeled ---- more socialism, it turns out, did not appear out of nowhere at that time? The party elite was not with the people, did not respect their interests. Just at that time, they got the opportunity to visit foreign countries more often, they dreamed of being richer.
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 20: 13
      Dmitry, good evening!...Two hours ago, a friend, the chairman of the election commission of my precinct, called. He called me to vote. The turnout at our polling station is 20%, they demand 100 from him, at least 60. He apologized, but didn’t go. At one time I voted against the pro-American constitution, what should I vote for now? For amendments to the constitution that you voted against? Or against the amendments that are going to be made to the Constitution, the adoption of which I voted against?...
      1. +1
        28 June 2020 20: 36
        Good evening, Alexey, there are network glitches, sometimes you can’t answer. I don't understand why. What year was it not adopted against corruption in 2000? Although the UN. So the priority is not always international? And Ukraine hasn’t changed the Soviet retirement age, it seems? Although the myth recommended?
        1. +1
          28 June 2020 20: 43
          Last sentence-M V F -----recommended.
          There were votes on different topics at the same time before. And somehow out of about 20 people I chose one. I don’t like that all the amendments are generalizations. With advancing digitalization
  79. -10
    28 June 2020 19: 37
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    In what situation? Tell me bluntly, the petty-bourgeois instinct worked. And I wanted to hide the fat body in the cliffs. Did it really help a hundred years ago? Does history teach that history does not teach anything?

    How long have you been to see a psychiatrist? You would not pass the adequacy test.
  80. 0
    28 June 2020 19: 53
    And then there was the army. Which really set my mind straight. And millions of others were not so lucky
    Likewise. All guys must undergo it, just as they used to undergo initiation, after which they were endowed with the rights of adult men. If you paid your debt to the Motherland, learned to obey and serve, you can occupy leadership positions in the civil service, but no, no higher than a specialist in a government agency.
    1. +5
      29 June 2020 04: 47
      Oh really? Out of 32 of my university classmates, I was the only one who served. The rest only have training camps behind them. 2 joined the party (I mean the CPSU). I am well-deserved and have no complaints. The rest (except for pensions) are rectors, heads. departments, 2 people - large (quite) business, 2 - academicians. PS Missed - S.V. He served in military service. Now he is a candidate of sciences and teaches at a military school. No one left the cordon yet. But the political officers who blew my mind were 2 behind the cordon, 2 with the Nazis (1 with Tyagnibok, 1 with Yarosh). I don’t know how to judge you correctly - everyone has chosen their own path and destiny.
      1. -1
        29 June 2020 05: 34
        Quote: begemot20091
        Out of 32 of my university classmates, I was the only one who served.

        Isn’t your “university” called Harvard or Sorbonne? belay Here you are telling us Uncle Remus’s tales about great classmates.
        I do not believe.
        1. +2
          29 June 2020 07: 09
          but I’m not asking you to believe. I'm laying out a fact. It's a pity that three died. there would be more. and our faculty was called - FTF. prestigious faculty in the 60-70s of the last century. Yes, and I prefer Bazhov and Grimm.
  81. +5
    28 June 2020 19: 59
    Seriously?) Like we've been waiting for 20 years and now let's roll up our sleeves and let's get to work, like in American movies where a fat guy takes dumbbells, starts popping a vegan hop-hop and to the cheerful music he already has an ass like a ballerina and a bicep like Schwartz ?)
    How is it with the postman Pechkin - “it was I who was angry before because I didn’t have a bicycle”?) Like for 20 years everything was dust because the constitution was not a cake?)
    Author write more, optimism for the whole day, ignition
  82. +2
    28 June 2020 20: 40
    And I like voting. Terry classics: unity of form and content - squalor in squalor...
  83. 0
    28 June 2020 21: 24
    M.b. I'll repeat someone:
    those who, with the tenacity of a rhinoceros, stood up against amendments to the Russian Constitution, have already realized that they were standing against the wind. No opponents. People, not paying attention...vote.
    Yes, some have already voted, but... Do people vote YES or AGAINST? We will see/learn/hear on July 1, voting day. And now they go from house to house twice a day, literally forcing people to approve this act with their handouts in the form of a bag with a mask, a pen and gloves. I’m collecting bags, but I haven’t voted yet, I say that I haven’t decided yet.
    Otherwise, they promise a second wave and the children will have hands by September... If I get a lot of napkins, I’ll try to squeeze them out.
  84. +2
    28 June 2020 21: 39
    Amendments to the basic law of the country are not adopted several months in advance. It happens that an ordinary project takes longer to discuss on the Internet. Moreover, absolutely nothing depends on voting. Since the amendments to the law have already been adopted
  85. +3
    28 June 2020 22: 45
    You're not a rebel, you're an asshole. And therefore, any action you take will lead to negative consequences - what then, what now. You were instilled with dissatisfaction with that country, you did not understand this and will never understand. This time you were given another destructive idea. Nothing has changed about you in 30 years. And this is forever.
    1. +3
      29 June 2020 15: 05
      This time you were given another destructive idea.

      Well, you must be a genius, since you’re a genius, explain what idea was instilled in Alexander?
    2. +1
      29 June 2020 15: 55
      Quote: dmprt
      This time you were given another destructive idea. Nothing has changed about you in 30 years. And this is forever.

      As I understand it, you need a revolution like 1917 with a continuation?
      Do you have children?
  86. +6
    28 June 2020 23: 25
    Expected. If not for, then it was bought by America. All text - USA, USA, USA...

    Yeltsin's "Vote or lose" in a new way....
  87. +1
    29 June 2020 00: 02
    Quote: Igor Aviator
    Quote: faterdom
    Personal experience, however, convinces me otherwise: these are the same bulk ones, only not so stupid and arrogant, they will feed us pieces: medicine, education, culture, and the police - the cry... The USSR did nothing, it just lay on the stove, produced galoshes...
    And no one loved animals, they just tortured everyone, and the registry office is a mess - even if you come with a goat, they’ll get you married!

    Didn't you gain personal experience at Kanatchikova's dacha, by any chance? In terms of presentation - very similar! In my work I have had the opportunity to meet guys like you. Duty of service obligated them to promptly recognize their symptoms and excommunicate them from operating military equipment...

    I’ll give you a minus - they earned it honestly.
    But there’s no need to be rude here, even if you don’t like me.
    Nobody promised to like him - not the ruble, however.
    On behalf of all the other “subs” who dared not please you. No respect.
  88. +2
    29 June 2020 00: 38
    Quote: Igor Aviator
    Quote: Radikal
    The current successor was made by Borka the drunk, every year the guarantor goes to “pray” at the Yeltsin Center and express his feelings to his wife... Nothing bothers you - inconsistent Are you ours?

    Your CONSISTENT stupidity is very confusing! Only an ABSOLUTE fool can reproach our President for taking power from Yeltsin’s hands! Do you think he, as a patriot, should have refused this? You don’t need to go to VO, but to Kashchenko, for a lobotomy! ! (for moderators, this is not an insult, but a diagnosis) Lobotomy is MANDATORY to relieve uncontrolled activity syndrome!

    Especially for aviators, regarding uncontrolled activity - count where and how many of your comments you made on “VO” today, and how many of mine were on that day, compare, and then it will be clear who needs to remove which syndrome! lol wassat tongue
  89. -8
    29 June 2020 01: 04
    Gentlemen, I have two questions for you:
    1. If amendments to the Constitution are adopted, will you emigrate home or will you stay here, led by those who you hate so much?
    2. If there is a war tomorrow, will you stand up to defend our country, including the one you hate so much? Or a friendly crowd of police?
    I despise you, gentlemen, you have ruined a respected resource and shit yourself.

    Question to Alexander Staver: Alexander, hasn’t Roman spat in your face yet? As far as I understand, he, unlike you, has not lost anything, but on the first of the month he risks losing everything.

    PS Gentlemen, if you go into the beautiful and bright, take with you the economic bloc of our government and the Federation Council in its entirety, all of this is yours. They will be very useful to your owners there. No, not blacks, these will only have to kiss their shoes. To those in the State Department.
    1. +6
      29 June 2020 03: 19
      Since my comrades are already sleeping, I’ll try to answer you. 1. We will not leave our country anywhere. Personally, I will honestly do my job (until they force me to retire), cultivate the garden and raise my grandchildren. The children (2 sons), thank God, already understand what’s what and that it’s not about Putin, but about the crisis of the system itself and a simple castling of the leader will not change anything.
      2. I will definitely go to war. If they take it (a month before the disability pension), but you still have health. Let’s deal with the external enemy, and then we’ll see... In general, read Lenin. The police absolutely do not. Moreover, we already have them, and I think 40 percent will be happy to serve the occupation authorities, it’s a common thing: chasing grandmothers and teenagers, well, throwing something there, for example, an E.R. badge. In the last war, our ancestors were led into battle by the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, and in the next one, who will lead - United Russia? I don’t even know what to say... And about the government and its economic bloc. Putin is satisfied with the work of the government, you are satisfied with Putin’s work, but you are not satisfied with the work of the economic bloc. It turns out to be some kind of schizophrenia, you just have to decide, otherwise, “I play here, I don’t play here, but here they wrapped up the fish”
      PS And don’t call us gentlemen, you are gentlemen, and we are comrades.
      1. +1
        29 June 2020 10: 39
        I am not satisfied with Putin's work. I just don’t see an alternative today. No, it exists, but it’s better to immediately ask to appoint a curator, so at least it will be more honest. I am satisfied with the work of Stalin and Beria, that’s true, by the way.
        I gave you a plus for your honesty. I'm the same. Sorry for the gentlemen, I was addressing the rabid ones, you are far from them, fortunately. But I voted FOR because I want my daughter to grow up in Russia, and not in a colony. Looking forward to it. And Putin... God bless him, he is a temporary phenomenon.
        1. -2
          1 July 2020 14: 10
          But I voted FOR because I want my daughter to grow up in Russia, and not in a colony. Looking forward to it.

          You voted for the future of Russia as a colony.
  90. +2
    29 June 2020 04: 29
    Quote: Silvestr
    yes not a scam! Remember the territorial claims of GDP to Kakhakhstan, the Baltic states, Ukraine! Do you think they will give it yourself?
    War?
    90 years ago it was already

    and here in more detail? I don’t remember anything from history where they conquered something from Kazakhstan = they gave up and in vain they gave up northern Kazakhstan, Peter 1 bought the Chukhons with their giblets for a little tobacco, and the drunkard Yeltsin gave them away along with Russian land and rebuilt factories and ports. I’m generally silent about the bloomers. let them kiss the steps of the mausoleum and break their foreheads on the granite of Stalin’s grave. It was they (Lenin and Stalin) who slaughtered the Chukhonians, the Sharovarniki, and Kazakhstan. Ask these “friends” how they persecuted your parents and grandfathers in the 90s, who in different years moved to these quasi-states to teach the population to read, write, and built factories. Oh! They saw the light at once - the Russians prevented them. Teeth will be broken and foreheads will be bruised. Russia was and will be. And they -..? Time will show.
    1. 0
      29 June 2020 07: 04
      In fact, the enemies of the communists should be grateful for dividing the USSR into their 15 separate states - not Lenin and Stalin, but Gorbachev. And under the communists, the territorial division of the USSR was completely unimportant - as in the Republic of Ingushetia, the same nationalities lived in the same territories as part of one country.
  91. 0
    29 June 2020 04: 55
    Quote: bk0010
    When the union was brought down, I was too small for the front rows,

    it is noticeable. To tell the truth, I haven’t grown up even today.
  92. +5
    29 June 2020 06: 55
    I read it, I’ll go vote FOR!
  93. +1
    29 June 2020 07: 29
    Quote: faterdom
    Another rabid propaganda. I watch them on TV, running from channel to channel, and in the end, after about five minutes I turn it off.
    Still here now.

    Why is Malysheva’s gear so short? I don't turn it on at all. I sometimes read books that I ignored in my youth.
  94. +3
    29 June 2020 07: 59
    It is impossible for the opposition to challenge the need for amendments (the people will not understand). All that remains is to question everything else: turnout, vote counting, the presence of violations (organized by ourselves), the legitimacy of the vote, etc. I don’t want to trust power to such an opposition. It’s scary
    1. +1
      29 June 2020 15: 46
      Quote: Alexander Chirukhin
      I don’t want to trust power to such an opposition. It’s scary

      Exactly... the whole West is against these amendments... and so are the local fighters for truth...
      In Russia There is a very good saying - “Tell me who your friend is, and I will tell you who you are.” ...
      1. -2
        1 July 2020 14: 06
        Dali, the West has never heard of them. And if someone read them and did not approve, then I’m on high ground about it.
  95. +1
    29 June 2020 09: 13
    I didn’t want to comment... Sorry, I couldn’t restrain myself.
    Well, what kind of baby talk is this? After all, it is only children who divide the world into black and white, good and bad. Adults should use their brains and understand that the world is colorful, full of halftones.
    We are divided into those who are against Western influence and want to live in an independent country, and those who are for the West.

    Are you crazy? I'm "nassor" to the West, with their sometimes dubious values. I don't accept their mentality and way of life. But what is happening now in my country no longer suits me.
    Personally, I do not participate in this circus.
    1. +2
      29 June 2020 15: 41
      Quote: Chersky
      Personally, I do not participate in this circus.

      What do you offer? Because this phrase is equivalent to “my house is on edge.”
  96. 0
    29 June 2020 09: 52
    What a strange author, to put it mildly. What rebel? You can’t praise yourself........ How little I dreamed about jeans and mourned over the packages, so it’s like I stayed at that stage of development. Typical "Don't rock the boat, I'm getting seasick."
  97. +4
    29 June 2020 10: 14
    Somehow in the article everything is “turned” in the West and America..
    As always, those who are against this unconstitutional seizure of power are declared proteges of the State Department..)) Nothing new..
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  99. +1
    29 June 2020 10: 27
    “I am from the generation that today is accused of being the one that ruined the country.”

    Where are the amendments to the Constitution that will allow it to be restored? And return at least natural resources to public ownership?
  100. +4
    29 June 2020 11: 10
    Quote: tatra
    And under the communists, the territorial division of the USSR was completely unimportant - as in the Republic of Ingushetia, the same nationalities lived in the same territories as part of one country.

    They lived, but in different ways. The same Baltic states or Georgia were terribly subsidized at the expense of the Urals and non-black earth regions, the Cossack regions, by inertia, generally spread rot, saying, “here’s the whip for you in 1905.”
    The last Soviet leaders, Khrushchev and Brezhnev, generally cared about Ukraine separately, a “small homeland” after all. Even foreign leaders of the communist movement noticed this and did not approve - they understood that it would not end well, that someday Russia would want to leave such a “Union”, where everyone (except Belarus) lives at its expense, and it is hated as “Big Brother” ".
    Or another example - under Khrushchev, the Union Ministry of Internal Affairs was eliminated, and powers were transferred to the republican level - how is that? This is a direct push towards separatism - the creation of “Russian legality”, “Uzbek legality”, “Lithuanian legality” more or less within the framework of the Criminal Code, but everyone understands who the accusations are against at the everyday level.