I am a rebel who once changed his country to a beautiful package


Well, the voting has begun, and those who, with the stubbornness of a rhinoceros, have opposed amendments to the Constitution of Russia, have already realized that they stood against the wind. There are no opponents. People, not paying attention to these "strongholds of truth", vote. This is the main thing today. People express their opinion. The understanding came that “I didn’t vote for it, which means that I won’t be guilty of what happened later”, it doesn’t pass. I can’t sit back.


How has the political climate in the country


Have you noticed how the political climate in the country has changed? Previously, before campaigning for amendments, it was more or less clear who is who. There was a group of ardent “Westerners” who, out of habit, smeared all of our mud and praised everything “there,” foreign. There were those who were kind of against the West, for Russia, but another, with a different power. There were no other options for these views, but the essence was simple. We are against the power of "EP" and Putin. Well, and supporters of the government. Those who are always in favor.

What do I personally see today? Suddenly, campaigning for or against amendments divided the country according to a completely different principle. The name of the party or social movement is completely irrelevant. It doesn’t matter what you are or how you say it. We learned to speak beautifully and intelligibly. It's expensive to watch our political shows. Opinions for every taste and color. But, by and large, all these masterpieces of oratory are no longer inspiring anyone. We understood the difference between word and deed.

Today we are divided according to a completely different principle. Look how many Western politicians spoke out about the Russian constitution, how many media outlets published materials on this topic. How many seasoned analysts and party leaders washed the bones of literally every amendment. The West howled from some. And, in my opinion, most Western leaders have opposed a change in the liberal constitution.

And here interesting things surfaced already among our political elite. Someone spoke unconditionally in favor. Someone ardently defended their options for amendments, someone immediately took the position “against”. Here it is, the border that today divided the country. We divided into those who are against Western influence and want to live in an independent country, and those who are for the West. Somehow it quickly became clear who was with us and who was on the side of our opponents.

I think that there are not so many supporters of the United States as a country simply dying of the desire to make Russia great. But supporters of the US point of view on the amendments, again I will clarify, the Russian constitution, we had enough. Somehow puzzles don't work out for me.

I support the enemy’s point of view, but I want my happiness. This does not happen. Are you clean or dirty, big or small ...

I don’t want to remember about some large political parties. According to the old, still Soviet, memory, these are popular parties that advocate for the common man. And out of habit supported by part of the people. But what happened? Offended the poor party members. They did not accept the amendments that they wanted to push through. So, what is next? And then, right with the red banner in the camp of the opponents ... It happens.

I was already a rebel and lost my country


I am from the generation that today is accused of having ruined the country. It is she who is guilty of the destruction of the USSR. Therefore, I have the right to share some thoughts with my younger colleagues, with those who are unhappy today and want to destroy the “whole world of violence”. Those who are already writing to me that after the vote, where they managed to see a couple of “ticks” in the column “for” by other voters, they became sad for the country, sad for its future.

The fact that Western countries are constantly engaged in us is no secret. So it was, it is, it will be so. We are opponents, competitors, enemies. No matter what politicians and party leaders say. The amount of resources on the planet is limited. A handful of countries use the lion's share of these resources. The rest get crumbs. The Hungry want more. But then the "well-fed" will receive less. The desire to live worse due to a lack of these same resources among the "well-fed" is not observed.

In the USSR, we young people lived a calm, predictable life. Kindergarten, school, vocational school or technical school, if you are not a good student, an institute after a decade, moving to another region after graduation, creating a family and life, life, life ... We even had the border of becoming an adult: “Nothing, will return from the army by man. ”

We ate good foods. For today's young man, it will probably sound wild, but a bottle of beer in the store did not stand for more than three days. And the main “filler” in the sausage was paper ... Our girls went to school in cashmere dresses. Yes, it was a school uniform. From natural cashmere, such brown, veterans remember. We practiced in free sports sections, went to free circles.

We were careless. And our parents were careless. But we were just like youth today. We were unhappy! The BBC or Voice of America, which we listened to for recording new music, told us how bad it was. And we believed! A pure wool suit for 150 rubles did not suit me. My dream was jeans for 180-200 rubles. And all the talk that this is a robe, I considered stupid ...

The first jeans I sewed a friend. From colored cord. The same that is used in the manufacture of car tires. Yes, and "got" it at such a plant. Speckled jeans. Just because there was a real metal thread in the material ...

But Seva Novgorodtsev told me that I was not free. He was a popular presenter of the time. Many told me that I live poorly, in between musical compositions. I looked at the smuggled Playboy, flaunted at Levi Strauss ... I had an American plastic bag with a Marlboro cowboy pattern! And I had a tragedy when someone cut this package a little ...

And then there was the army. Which really set my brains. And millions of others are out of luck. They remained young, angry, unhappy, ready for conflict. To be honest, I still can’t understand how we, well-educated, well-fed, living in apartments with all conveniences, not knowing the problems with clothes, school, leisure, and prospects in life, were led into this ...

Yes, probably, we really exchanged our country for beautiful packaging and jeans. We exchanged our future for imaginary freedom. Therefore, it is worth remembering this. More precisely, remind today's rebels. Do not destroy what has already been created. They don’t build on the ruins. Build on a specially prepared site. A normal owner will never destroy what is built, if there is an opportunity to finalize, modernize, improve ...

Finish or continue


Soon we will know the result of the vote. We will modernize the country or wait again for the “tractor”, which will simply destroy it with its bucket. Personally, I have already lost a country that I was unhappy with due to the lack of a beautiful package. Do not want anymore. I no longer want to live the way they live there. I want to live as I like.

Then, in the Soviet past, it was easier to deceive me. I watched American films on the Soviet "VM-12." I watched western magazines and listened to the stories of emigrants about their beautiful life in London or Washington. Today, in the age of information technology, it has become more difficult to deceive. The network allows you to see the real life there, if you wish.

Yes, and there are many opportunities to see the world with your own eyes. If you wish, you can always find a way to see the West from the inside. To live there or even stay if you want to. But you don’t have to break your country.

Let the USA remain the USA, France France, Germany Germany, and Russia Russia ... Youth is a shortcoming, which, unfortunately, is quickly passing. Someday rebels and freedom lovers will understand me.
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  1. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 28 June 2020 10: 13 New
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    I voted for amendments to the Constitution.
    1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 10: 54 New
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      ANDREY MIKHAILOV_
      I voted for amendments to the Constitution.
      MALADETs, buy yourself a candy, and you yourself, now you will definitely not get anything from the government, except for extending the terms of zeroed out.
      For particularly stubborn proponents of voting, I have only ONE question. WHAT actually did you vote for? WHAT was such an amendment worth voting for in bulk?
      At least one of the supporters of the “FOR” vote can clearly tell me without pathetics, for what exactly did you vote?
      Of the sane amendments, there is NONE clearly articulated. For the indivisibility of borders - so there it is with a reservation on the demarcation of borders, under which you can bring anything from Kaliningrad to the Kuril Islands. For indexing pensions? So there is also no specifics, it can be indexed at 0,00001% and this will not contradict the Constitution.
      SO "FOR" WHAT ARE YOU ALL VOTING VOTING?
      And you voted for the expansion of the powers of the Federation Council, the nullification of the terms of the darkest and the elimination of it and the clique from any responsibility !!!
      My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go on my own and will not let my own go, so as not to betray the legitimacy of this farce!
      1. gurzuf 28 June 2020 11: 07 New
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        What did you actually vote for? Please - I am for "zeroing". A counter question, only distinctly - how does this amendment scare you?
        1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 11: 16 New
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          Nothing, except that the authorities finally broke away from the people and prescribed themselves a complete indulgence in actions in the future and a complete lack of responsibility for their actions, even if they would be criminal in relation to Russia. Are you for it? The flag is in your hands ... I am AGAINST!
          1. Malyuta 28 June 2020 11: 20 New
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            Quote: Varyag_0711
            The flag in your hands ... I am AGAINST!

            I STRONGLY SUPPORT !!!
            1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 11: 30 New
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              Malyuta
              I STRONGLY SUPPORT !!!
              Judging by the number of minuses, the vote will take place as the authorities should. Forgive the minusculers, but I just want to say: THE WAR HAS TAKEN NOT ALL THE SICK! You are being pushed into another scam, and you are being fooled again!
              1. New Year day 28 June 2020 11: 48 New
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                Quote: Varyag_0711
                You are being pushed into another scam

                yes not a scam! Remember the territorial claims of GDP to Kakhakhstan, the Baltic states, Ukraine! Do you think they will give it yourself? laughing
                War?
                90 years ago it was already
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                THE WAR HAS NOT ALL ALL THE PATIENTS!

                sad to look at all this
                1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 11: 57 New
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                  Silvestr (Sylvester)
                  Remember the territorial claims of GDP to Kakhakhstan, the Baltic states, Ukraine! Do you think they will give it yourself? laughing war?
                  Well, let’s put no one will ask the Limitrophs and will not: they will give - they will not. The hegemon will weaken, but it will still weaken, either they will give it up themselves, or they will come running back to Russia.
                  In the end, the option of Crimea has not been canceled. They will hold a referendum and a la huh ... The scheme has already been tested and worked out. There is no sense in fearing sanctions, they are forever now. So I do not see any obstacles. And not one of the former Union republics is able to fight on its own with Russia, only with the help of the hegemon. But as Georgia showed, the hegemon is not a panacea. The United States will not fit in even for Kazakhstan in which case. Well, unless China wants to share Kazakhstan.
                  And so, I do not see any obstacles. The West and the USA, including now, are not up to us; they would solve their problems without loss. So it's time ...
                  1. New Year day 28 June 2020 12: 07 New
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                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    They will hold a referendum and a la huh ... The scheme has already been tested and worked out.

                    sure?
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    The hegemon will weaken, but it will still weaken, either they will give it up themselves, or they will come running back to Russia.

                    you are not like these

                    While the fat dries, the thin one dies
                    1. lopvlad 28 June 2020 12: 27 New
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                      Quote: Silvestr
                      While the fat dries, the thin one dies


                      if only his fat, as well as his muscles, is not inflatable, stemming from the release of a green piece of paper that has not been provided for a long time with goods or labor made on it.
                      The British Empire did not print such candy wrappers (every pound released was provided with goods and labor) but still collapsed.
                      So the only product the United States produces is the dollar as the world's reserve currency. It will collapse and the bold will instantly turn thin, like Britain did when the main diamond in the form of India fell out of its crown.
                      1. Terrible GMO 28 June 2020 18: 22 New
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                        Quote: lopvlad
                        if only his fat, as well as his muscles, is not inflatable, stemming from the release of a green piece of paper that has not been provided for a long time with goods or labor made on it.

                        The world has changed, now no one is measured by tons of smelted pig iron or mined ore. Technology and the service sector are running the show and rest assured that the United States will have the strength to hold these positions long enough. Obviously longer than the Russian Federation can afford to swing.
                        You can answer, they’re outbidding technology and brains, so who was stopping Russia? She received little currency in fat years for oil?

                        Quote: lopvlad
                        The British Empire did not print such candy wrappers (every pound released was provided with goods and labor) but still collapsed.

                        Two world wars, the influence of the two Super Powers, the collapse of the colonial system and the large-scale movement for the independence of the colonies, we no longer take into account?

                        Quote: lopvlad
                        So the only product that the United States produces is the dollar as the world's reserve currency.

                        Blessed is he who believes.
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                    4. DPN
                      DPN 28 June 2020 22: 30 New
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                      Well done. Everything is spelled correctly. +++
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                2. dgonni 28 June 2020 19: 42 New
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                  He laughed. No one will ever strive for Russia in their right mind! Especially considering the realities of recent years. Therefore, only by military means and not otherwise.
                  But the question of sanctions has not been canceled! Those that are now introduced? This is so, for proforma so to speak. What a little mind to correct the great geopolitics. Major sanctions have not yet been imposed. And this is an elementary disconnection from the payment system (SWIFT), after which load the oranges with wagons. And the second is oil and gas in exchange for food!
                  Notice! Not sowing material and agricultural chemistry, namely food! That no one will give a fishing rod, they will give a fish, so that they would not start to eat each other from hunger.
                  Or do you think that the GDP after the arrival of the small Vatican ambassador just passed back in terms of LDN?
                  By the way, knocking Russia out of the oil market based on UN sanctions is just a dream. The market is stabilizing, prices will also go up. But all this will be without Russia! Iran and Iraq can confirm!
                  1. Dart2027 28 June 2020 21: 19 New
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                    Quote: dgonni
                    Notice! Not sowing material and agricultural chemistry, namely food!

                    And that in Russia there is no food?
                    1. dgonni 28 June 2020 21: 45 New
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                      And take an interest in yourself purely with what they sow and how they process the fields! 25-30% of sowing material Russian, everything else is from behind a hillock. So in cases where the yield of 40+ will be a dream come true. And everything will return to square one in 20-25 as in a union.
                    2. Okolotochny 29 June 2020 12: 30 New
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                      And take an interest in yourself purely with what they sow and how they process the fields! 25-30% of sowing material Russian, everything else is from behind a hillock. So in cases where the yield of 40+ will be a dream come true. And everything will return to square one in 20-25 as in a union.

                      I am constantly interested, as I have been working in this area for more than one year. Winter (wheat, barley, etc.) is almost 100% our selection.
                    3. Paranoid50 29 June 2020 16: 29 New
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                      I am constantly interested

                      Alexei, explaining dill for Russian grains is obviously a thankless task. yes laughing hi
                    4. Okolotochny 30 June 2020 16: 54 New
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                      Sasha, let it develop. soldier
                3. Dart2027 29 June 2020 19: 29 New
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                  Quote: dgonni
                  25-30% of sowing material Russian, everything else is from behind a hillock. So in cases where the yield of 40+ will be a dream come true.

                  Will the source be?
                4. Okolotochny 30 June 2020 16: 53 New
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                  Practice 12 years of work in one of the largest agricultural holdings in the South. Will arrange such a source? Imported seeds are sunflower and sugar beets, partly corn (about 40% of the market). For corn, google the Ladoga seeds, I worked there too. Now the plant has deployed throughout Russia. The originators of winter seeds - the main one - is the KNIISH them.Lukyanenko (google, herself, herself). Soybean - almost domestic selection - VNIIMK im.Pustovoit (google, herself, herself). Where there is a lot of import, it is plant protection products (plant protection products and spare parts for machinery, as well as imported equipment itself). Conclusion - it is desirable to sprinkle ash on your head, agricultural workers work quietly.
                5. Dart2027 30 June 2020 19: 22 New
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                  Quote: Okolotochny
                  (google, herself, herself)

                  That is, again blah blah blah.
        2. Tagan 28 June 2020 22: 07 New
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          "And this is an elementary disconnection from the payment system (SWIFT), then load the oranges with wagons."
          To write this, you need to at least roughly understand what SWIFT is. Where did you just read about such a magical power of SWIFT?
        3. Pavel57 29 June 2020 01: 25 New
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          dgonni (Djon), this year it is planned to sell grain to Russia more than the whole of Europe or the USA. A very good harvest is expected, although not a record 2017.
          In general, grain sales have doubled since 2008.
          1. dgonni 29 June 2020 10: 27 New
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            So no one argues that! But if there is no seed imported material, then there will be no modern crops. And you can immediately forget about export
          2. Pavel57 29 June 2020 12: 02 New
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            dgonni (Djon), you have a layout, how many domestic seeds, how many imported?
      2. demos1111 30 June 2020 15: 06 New
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        And you happen to be from Ukraine?
        I’m from Minsk and we’re sitting here, wondering what will happen next if our dad is 31 and the next cards are not signed.
        How many of our hard workers are there in Russia before the coronovirus, 500-700 thousand people worked. And how do you take it and don’t open the borders (we didn’t enter quarantine) It’s clear that they have some kind of badge, but anyway, they’ll eat it.
        Without the Russian market, we will get everything, or almost everything. And I just can’t understand what our rulers will do with a huge mass of hungry people left without work, because of not signing the integration in full and as a result of the loss of your market.
        That’s why the alarming notes of our president about the collapse of the country slip through.
        1. Uran53 1 July 2020 13: 57 New
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          Ask Ukrainians how you will live. And Belarus is now actively promoted according to the Ukrainian scenario
    2. Vladimir Kiev 29 June 2020 11: 32 New
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      If this is a provocation, then it is very thick.
      if you really think so ... then remember how the "small victorious wars" often end for the Russian Federation.
  2. Axon 29 June 2020 06: 52 New
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    Not GDP but Russia
  • ankir13 28 June 2020 11: 59 New
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    The Varangian is the most intelligent, who thinks differently of him, enters the scam, but doesn’t tidy up the war ... but haven’t they learned anything from mediocre idiots and just traitors, at least some kind of protective tool is needed? Ksenia Sobchak over the skis lubricates, waiting in line, a worthy replacement!
    1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 12: 14 New
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      ankir13
      The Varangian is the smartest one, who thinks differently of him, enters the scam, but doesn’t tidy up the war ... but because of mediocrity idiots and just traitors, at least some kind of protective tool is needed
      Smart or not, time will tell!
      the last 70 years have not taught anything?
      I wonder what they taught you?
      Ksenia Sobchak over the skis lubricates, waiting in line, a worthy replacement!
      Well, you don’t have to hold everyone for fools ... All these ksyushadi, greetings and others, it's just a screen, clowns in the arena, who are taken out just to show that there is no alternative to Volodya and nothing more.
      So it was you who scored the scam, congratulations - you are the one who loses the scam ... laughing
    2. Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 21: 07 New
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      Quote: ankir13
      The Varangian is the smartest,

      No, so-so, a provocateur! Worthless, in fact! Fake fiercely, instead of facts, cites, as arguments, the most obvious stupidity and nonsense of a liberal schiz.
    3. alecsis69 30 June 2020 00: 17 New
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      So he is a Varangian, not local, alien, that he is Russia.
  • Coward 28 June 2020 12: 06 New
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    And where did you get the idea that it’s not you who are sick?
  • forester1971 28 June 2020 21: 23 New
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    Why do you consider yourself right, a priori, right? Maybe it is you who are being pushed into another scam? I 99% agree with the author of the article. How to whom to vote is everyone's personal business. And those who want to confirm their position with rudeness in relation to the opponent can only be advised to look for other arguments for the dispute.
    1. Roman123567 29 June 2020 10: 20 New
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      And for those who want to confirm their position with rudeness in relation to the opponent, we can only advise you to look for other arguments for the dispute
      The Varangian just listed the arguments .. But no one can answer or refute .. How many conversations have already been about this - no one has ever been able to explain the need for these amendments ..
      1. forester1971 29 June 2020 12: 25 New
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        I re-read the so-called arguments. These are not arguments, but emotions and a general set of phrases written using the Caps lock, mixed with rudeness - “the war didn’t clean all patients” - apparently this is the main argument in the dispute. And I did not speak about the necessity or unnecessary amendments.
        1. Uran53 1 July 2020 14: 00 New
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          Have you read the amendments yourself?
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            Was reading. And in order to save your and your time, I’ll say in advance that I didn’t notice anything bad in them.
  • Agave tequilana 29 June 2020 15: 41 New
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    and here you are, all so white and so healthy .... handsome Karoch
  • Uran53 1 July 2020 13: 54 New
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    Everyone already told them on TV, so there’s no need to think for themselves anymore, and read the amendments too. And you still can’t convince a stubborn ram. All this is sad
  • carstorm 11 28 June 2020 11: 29 New
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    your mistake is that you speak for all the people. I assure you that since you think far from everything. we must always speak for ourselves and not assume the right to speak for the people, as many here have fallen in love with.
    1. New Year day 28 June 2020 11: 49 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      your mistake is that you speak for all the people.

      so you are not the whole nation!
      Quote: carstorm 11
      I assure you that since you think far from all

      request
      1. carstorm 11 28 June 2020 11: 56 New
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        so I do not speak for all the people! the fact that there are people who think not as having written can be seen here. I state this fact. do you disagree with me that there are those who are for and against? and people excuse this very concrete concept; otherwise, a person would say part of the people.
        1. Svarog 28 June 2020 13: 06 New
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          so I do not speak for all the people! what are people thinking

          It’s precisely thinking ... and of course it arrives in our regiment, but the propagandists are throwing tons of noodles into the media that this process is not fast, but is already rapidly gaining momentum. The process was started with the pension reform. After zeroing and with the new Constitution, the process of those who are getting smarter will accelerate. For an even greater number of people will understand that the matter is not in the Constitution, but in the people who now run the state.
          1. carstorm 11 28 June 2020 13: 11 New
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            it excites me a little. I am annoyed by people who for some reason decided that they can speak on my behalf as a resident of this country. my life quite suits me. I will see the one who is better, I will support. but so far there are none even at the horizon level.
            1. Revival 28 June 2020 14: 00 New
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              The fact that you only care about your life, we have already understood, and that you do not consider shame pension reform, a hundred-fold violation of your word, millions of beggars are also understandable. You do not care that they have nothing to eat or have to eat something that can not be called food.
              You are doing well ...
              1. carstorm 11 28 June 2020 15: 00 New
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                You understood everything in your own way, but this is understandable. I do not care about pension reform since I cannot imagine myself retired and I am not going to leave for it. I care about the well-being of my family in the first place and I spend my time on it. for I consider this the first priority of every man. call it selfish — okay so. and do not shame me with this. this is my position. politician broke his promises) this is kapets how amazing. like snow damn in winter. )
              2. Revival 28 June 2020 15: 49 New
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                Well, if just an ordinary "politician", then there are no questions
              3. carstorm 11 28 June 2020 16: 00 New
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                politician or not or not. if you are waiting for a new chapter that will keep all its promises, then you will be naive. a new one will come and then another and then another and everyone will forget about their promises. such is the world.
              4. volodimer 28 June 2020 20: 34 New
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                Get hurt right, that is, if you follow your principles ... Are you not naive and ready to support politicians who simply can lie and forget about these promises? Because: "such is the world"? Yes, in such a world! Such a world definitely requires change. To think so is to let yourself be trampled into Mr. and still rejoice at it.
                I apologize to the admins, but could not answer softer.
              5. carstorm 11 29 June 2020 02: 44 New
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                you are so crazy just don’t build a sanctuary right now?) such a world requires change))). these are not my postulates. This is an objective reality since ancient times. because the best is sometimes the enemy of the good. because life generally consists of daily compromises. we time daily. generally every person. we say that everything is good to relatives when it is bad. we smile when it hurts. we wear masks even in front of the closest ones. and politicians are people too. and they all have it all work.
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              10. Nastia makarova 29 June 2020 12: 16 New
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                if they face Putin’s face
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          Quote: volodimer
          I apologize to the admins, but could not answer softer.

          Some admins forgive. And many are punished more simply for words ...
  • ac5pr7u 29 June 2020 06: 54 New
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    Such as you went to the Germans in the service only benefit was.
  • carstorm 11 29 June 2020 07: 17 New
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    shut your mouth. and learn to read before blaming this nonsense.
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    Quote: carstorm 11
    shut your mouth. and learn to read before blaming it.
    en
    And he’s all right ska [hide] [/ hide] the hall, your position is my shirt closer to my body, I will not retire, and I will fight for the rest. I feel good and okay. And the invaders will come and go to them, this is an objective reality from antiquity, many did
  • carstorm 11 29 June 2020 11: 46 New
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    you do not compare me with you. I, unlike you, your native epaulets wore the floor of life. and where you talkers run me not know. if my opinion is not to your liking this is not a reason to be rude to people.
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    Your position is close to me ... I also think that - the best enemy of the good ... I do not hope for retirement ...
    PS ... "you should be arrested. - For what? - And you do not like the proletariat. - Yes, I do not like the proletariat" ...
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  • Civil 28 June 2020 18: 08 New
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    United Russia 10 - 0 Russian people. The people once again lost. Well, the score on the game, what can I say. Citizens are still infantile. Well, thank God.
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      we hate bulk
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        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        we hate bulk

        What's the point? Why not planted yet?
      2. Nastia makarova 29 June 2020 13: 24 New
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        if you put screams there will be even more
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        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        if you put screams there will be even more

        I write very correctly - This not daring position. Not very brave.
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      Quote: Tank Hard
      Why not planted yet?

      I do not hate Navalny. so despise a little laughing although after his last trick is not a bit ..
      why not planted? what for? he collects all kinds of marginals around him and everything is under supervision. let Azev, pah, Navalny, continue to work wink
  • CT-55_11-9009 30 June 2020 12: 39 New
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    You work badly, rudely. Tonschеe need, thinеe. And then cut the salary.
  • Whowhy 28 June 2020 17: 45 New
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    “Dyurak gets richer with a thought” .... Between “thinking” and understanding “sometimes there is an abyss. From all the key amendments, it smells strongly of fascism and the same State Department. And all this“ social package ”- these are cookies that the State Deputies handed out on Independence Square - it’s cheap , and it looks beautiful, if you don’t think about it, but why the hell are they needed in the Constitution ....
    Here I have repeatedly made clear arguments here and in zen, citing the amendments and comparing them with current legislation, proving their anti-nationality and orientation against the sovereignty of Russia. And what do you think? - At least one of those who advocated amendments would be able to object at least something intelligible? No (they didn’t even try) - the transition to personalities, insults, absurd sweeping accusations immediately begins. What is this talking about? - Either only complete stupid people are in favor of the amendments, or only those who are supposed to be ex officio ....
    Well, no arguing against the state machine, of course. So the “people” will vote “right” - they have already announced that it will be 73% in favor.
    By the way, in our city in "burg, “someone” spread a rumor among the grannies that those who vote “against” will be deprived of all pensions. And grannies, of course, were seduced. My mother (86 years old) and her friends voted “in favor”, and they persuaded me: “They will come for you!” .... Here we have the State Department here ....
    1. Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 19: 34 New
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      By the way, in our city in "burg, “someone” spread a rumor among the grannies that those who vote “against” will be deprived of all pensions.

      A head to think - not? Who benefits from a negative reaction to the vote, is it really Putin? Do not know how to think with your head? Oh yeah! you, in Yo-burg, eat into it! It’s not for nothing that the consuls of the United States (and those that are lower) travel to their homes and feel at home! Classes on "building democracy" are regularly held! Yes, and I will not forget your persistent desire to "separate from the swearing MASKWA." Fifth, no, sixth column!
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        It’s not for nothing that the consuls of the United States (and those that are lower) travel to their homes and feel at home!

        Why then Putin will not cover the consulate there so that no one travels?
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          Why then Putin will not cover the consulate there so that no one travels?

          The time will come and cover ... in the meantime, the screech will be the whole world, including from such as WhoWhy ...
      2. Whowhy 28 June 2020 22: 44 New
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        "There never was and here again" ... lol
        And what do you think is a “negative reaction to the vote”? On the contrary, - grannies were intimidated, so that they unanimously and positively vote “for” (and at first they wanted “against”). They then, and in the elections, will also unanimously vote for. What more do you need? And what is rumored demand? You can always say that they themselves came up with this stupidity, or traditionally blame everything on the State Department. laughing
  • gurzuf 28 June 2020 13: 06 New
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    What did you want under capitalism? As for me, it’s not Putin who needs to be changed, but the system. Putin (as for me, this is the best that could happen under capitalism in the Russian Federation) And let the bourgeoisie better carry out this nullification. But whether the popular movements will be able to take power and take advantage of this amendment is now not sure. But in the future, when the government, quoting you further (which I agree with), "finally broke away from the people and prescribed itself a complete indulgence in actions in the future and a complete lack of responsibility for their actions, even if they are criminal in relation to Russia," I think this the amendment will be in demand precisely by these movements. And it's silly not to see this perspective.
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      whether the popular movements will be able to take power and take advantage of this amendment - now I’m not sure.

      Especially, if frankly marginal parties come out under the brand of "folk".
  • Magnat231 28 June 2020 13: 26 New
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    Name the power that at least did not come off, what you are trying to wipe, verbiage
  • sniperino 28 June 2020 20: 18 New
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    power finally detached from the people
    And when did she come off? Yeltsin was closer to you, Gorbachev? Andropov with Chernenko? Perhaps, dear Leonid Ilyich ... Alas, if he was at the beginning, he soon ceased to be power and turned into a laughing stock, hung with undeserved rewards: a ready-made candidate for the role of the next scapegoat responsible for stopping on the way to a bright future, "stagnation" .
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      hung with undeserved rewards:

      And now on TV aunts are shown with big stars and hung with medals ... Honored? Maybe they deserve them. But how?!
  • Smoke 29 June 2020 20: 46 New
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    you)) what kind of power is that? specific names of a surname call
  • Gunter prereen 2 July 2020 22: 14 New
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    And you yourself for what kind of power? Or at least name your name. "Power has come off the people" - sounds like a slogan. Then give an example of popular power.
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    Usually power is ALWAYS divorced from the people, if its people or more powerful someone did not control. And as soon as it comes off far, ALWAYS there is someone (usually outside) who will help the authorities break away from the country and lose both the people and the country. And the civil war begins. While the government is anti-people, this will be repeated regularly. In the 20th century, we went through this twice. Well, once the power can not learn from the mistakes of its predecessors, let it perish. I feel sorry for the people. He did not deserve such a fate, to be an expendable material in the profits of the capitalists and cannon fodder in the political ambitions and mistakes of the bourgeois.
  • arlekin 28 June 2020 11: 22 New
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    Quote: gurzuf
    What did you actually vote for? Please - I am for "zeroing". A counter question, only distinctly - how does this amendment scare you?

    It can be used, then twisted and used again. But endlessly twisting it is somehow not hygienic.
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    Quote: gurzuf
    Please - I am for "zeroing". A counter question, only distinctly - how does this amendment scare you?

    She can no longer scare us. From this amendment turns back, as from the corpse of a decomposed animal. Look, here you can see why and why:
    1. Terenin 28 June 2020 15: 34 New
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      From this amendment turns, as from the corpse of a decomposed animal

      Oh hello guys (Svarog, Sylvester, Howling, Baby ...) hi
      I see, I see, everything at the post yes we can say at the last frontier ...
      I’m ready, during the “debriefing”, to confirm to your owners from the State Department that, although you have mediocrely lost the anti-voting company, you tried very hard.
      And the USSR flags, portraits and horses of military commanders used, found out what diapers Putin had as a child ... and I can even confirm that you chanted (quietly) "Ukraine didn’t die ..." and "God bless America. .. "
      True, the guys write later how the grandmasters yelled at you. Interesting.
      1. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 28 June 2020 15: 40 New
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        Oh, hello guys (Svarog, Sylvester, Revival, Baby ... They are regulars here from morning to evening, The hosts will not appreciate their efforts.
      2. Svarog 28 June 2020 16: 01 New
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        Quote: Terenin
        Oh hello guys (Svarog, Sylvester, Howling, Baby ...)

        And your order can be seen in the full provision of the cooperative "lake"?
        Primitive thinking by the training manual .. you are trying to write half of the country as agents of the State Department, but I’m sure that it’s you who supports Putin and the results of his reign (extinction of Russian citizens, pension reform at the direction of the IMF, stable impoverishment of the population, collapse of your own industry and medicine .. well and stuff ..) it’s you who are the agents of the State Department, but not everyone is smart enough to understand this ..
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          Quote: Svarog
          but you are not all smart enough to understand this ..

          Well, of course, that’s enough for you, but I don’t request
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        2. Terenin 28 June 2020 17: 22 New
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          And your order can be seen in the full provision of the cooperative "lake"?

          It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself.
          1. Svarog 28 June 2020 17: 44 New
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            Quote: Terenin
            Quote: Svarog
            And your order can be seen in the full provision of the cooperative "lake"?

            It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself.

            laughing Do you think that you are driving someone wassat You have a distorted perception of reality .. No arguments, only mooing and a reference to feelings .. you have a highly developed female component because men think logically and judge by deeds. And the deeds and achievements of your idol are sad ...
            Let's chase me .. laughing I will ask some simple questions, and you answer briefly yes / no and everything will be clear ..
            Is there a population growth in the country?
            Do you think the Russian economy is effective?
            Have citizens' incomes increased over the past 6 years?
            And have there been more billionaires in the last 6 years?
            Is free medicine better? (here you can read more ..)
            What scientific discoveries have been made by Russian scientists over the past 6 years?
            What kind of Russian scientists do you know around the world?
            Do you think there is political competition in Russia?
            Do social obligations of the state grow in your way or degrade?
            Corruption, nepotism in the country is growing?

            If you do not merge and answer unequivocally without water, in this case there are still questions:
            - An ineffective leader can rule for your life?
            - can a country's leader lie to his citizens?
            - should the leader of the country be responsible for his promises and their failure to fulfill?
            Good luck, the answers will be painful for your consciousness, of course if it is not painful laughing
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              1. Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 07 New
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                There is no other system and there will not be, there is nothing to change, the majority of citizens are satisfied with the current situation, there are no wars, no famines, no cataclysms. The economy, despite everything, is growing slowly but it is growing and the problems are the same as for everyone in the world. And how many churches in Russia per day open to all to spit this information only those like you are interested.
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              Quote: Svarog
              Do you think that you are chasing someone? You have a distorted perception of reality .. No arguments, just a lowing and a reference to feelings ..

              Well, here one is already nervously running around with prepared cribs. Late, Mr. Student, the company’s time is over. Go answer to the grantor. Dare, if anything, I'm near wink .

              Quote: Svarog
              you have a highly developed female component because men think logically and judge by deeds.
              Sorry, did not recognize you in the mask, Dr. Kashpirovsky.
              He is not a magician and not a psychic ... He is a psychotherapist! belay


              Quote: Svarog
              And the deeds and achievements of your idol are sad ...
              Oh, already guilty, out of habit appointed. Familiar winked
              "with a high probability"...


              Quote: Svarog
              I will ask some simple questions, and you answer briefly yes \ no and everything will be clear ..
              but maybe still take parts ...? winked or all at once?

              Quote: Svarog
              If you don’t merge and answer unequivocally without water,
              Please, announce, please, the name of the selection committee. Oops, yes I know you all for sure fellow

              Quote: Svarog
              in this case, more questions:
              Always glad to help in trouble buddy drinks
              1. Svarog 28 June 2020 19: 29 New
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                It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself

                Actually, I expected a similar answer from you ... With such answers you only need to drive the "bald" laughing
                And still can answer at least one question?
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                  It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself

                  Actually, I expected a similar answer from you ... With such answers you only need to drive the "bald" laughing
                  And still can answer at least one question?

                  Do not be afraid, go boldly, Vladimir, Bolshoi Devyatinsky, house 8, then tell wink
                2. Svarog 28 June 2020 19: 43 New
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                  Quote: Svarog
                  It’s a lot of honor to drive you with the order, I’ll figure it out myself

                  Actually, I expected a similar answer from you ... With such answers you only need to drive the "bald" laughing
                  And still can answer at least one question?

                  Do not be afraid, go boldly, Vladimir, Bolshoi Devyatinsky, house 8, then tell wink

                  Terenin merged ... was blown away ... only he began to swell and then burst laughing I see that you have no arguments and the fact that you are not even trying to pick them out means that you understand everything .. and if so, why do you support it? Are you on the RFP?
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                  Hello Svarog hi . Sorry for the delay. Unlike your gloom, I have many good deeds.
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Terenin merged ... blown away ... burst
                  Obviously, in translation - "Freely! Get out! Get!" ??? How do you know your levels so well? It’s hard to achieve, but I will strive winked .

                  Quote: Svarog
                  I see that you have no arguments and the fact that you are not even trying to pick them out means that you understand everything .. and if so, why do you support it?
                  I understand, my friend, two days are left until you rate "unsuccessful" request Do not worry, it will be possible to retake, in the 24th year, in the presidential election. Just get ready.
                  Ah, when nicknames (in blogs, forums and chats) will not be anonymous, but as in China, according to passport data ... then it will be clear - ... but who is wandering around at all? Maybe coronavirus !? belay

                  Quote: Svarog
                  Are you on the RFP?
                  Yes, repeat but it draws to you, as at night to ... the refrigerator crying
    2. Achilles 28 June 2020 18: 10 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      but I’m sure that it’s you who supports Putin and the results of his reign, (the extinction of Russian citizens, the pension reform at the direction of the IMF, the stable impoverishment of the population, the collapse of your own industry and medicine .. well and so on ..) it’s you who are the agents of the State Department but you are not all smart enough to understand this ..

      How? extinction of citizens of the Russian Federation, before Putin (in 90) there was an extinction as in 43 years. who is to blame? Also Putin? Stable impoverishment of the people? In 90 years there was nowhere to go for poverty below, when salaries were not paid for 6–9 months, is there such a thing now? In the 90s, medicine was just awful now much better, it doesn’t even compare. And even industry was in the ass even before Putin. But the question is if Putin is so bad, why did he need all the large gas-oil companies in which the majority stake was in private hands (echo 90), so now the state has a majority stake. No one argues that we have a lot of problems, corruption and yes in Russia over the past 5 years, many officials have been imprisoned, are slowly fighting corruption. Why does the Western world hate Putin, if he is so bad for Russia he should be loved there, but not. No one wondered if Putin began to reckon with Russia and he himself said that he was playing a long game. History will then show what Putin did for Russia.
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        "... the Western world hates Putin, ..."
        The rams were scared by wolves all their lives, and the Shepherd ate them.
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        And what of the 90s did Putin derive? Primakov needs to bow to his legs, but only Putin too quickly “leaked” everything that Primakov managed to build in such a short time ....
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          Primakov was one of Andropov's associates in the collapse of the USSR through the creation of oligarchic structures.
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            Pavel57
            Now you can chat anything. Khrushchev created oligarchic structures, forbidding the KGB and police to touch the party nomenclature and organizing mass housing construction ....
    3. Pavel57 29 June 2020 01: 33 New
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      Recalling the cooperative LAKE is exactly the methodology of the State Department.

      But if in fact, then any politician does business with a "plus" and with a "minus" of GDP in plus. For Russia. And the system and the oligarchs created before him.
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        Quietly with himself ...
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    Oh hello guys (Terenin ,, Andrey Mikhailov_2, carstorm 11, ...) hi
    I see, I see, everything at the post
    why are you so happy about the optimization of medicine? You have recognized the tax haven of geydorasov and your family didn’t interfere with any amendments, you have nothing to say in defense here and you are rude.
  • ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 28 June 2020 17: 52 New
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    In the "State farm to them. Lenin, "owned by a member of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Pavel Grudinin, people complain about coercion to vote against amendments to the Constitution. Those who disobey are threatened by fines and even dismissal.


    This is the official public city of Vidnoye “VKontakte”.


    The situation check was undertaken by the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation. Such coercion is completely illegal, according to lawyers.


    Complaints were received from state farm workers on the “hot line”, which began work last week. The authorities require a report: a ballot with a vote against must be photographed.


    “They clearly made it clear: we must vote“ against ”and fix it, take a photo as evidence,” “they threaten us with dismissal, they advise us to think about salaries,” the complaints of the victims quoted by the public city of Vidnoe say.


    According to Russian laws, coercion to vote faces criminal liability up to 5 years in prison. If the information is confirmed, Pavel Grudinin shines a real time. The head of the commission of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation Maxim Grigoryev joined in the investigation of the situation.
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    True, the guys write later how the grandmasters yelled at you. Interesting.

    Calls Antires
    And such isho cut:
    How do they have sms there -
    With the transfer of ali without?
  • New Year day 28 June 2020 22: 13 New
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    I’m ready, during the “debriefing”, to confirm to your owners from the State Department that, although you have mediocrely lost the anti-voting company, you tried very hard.

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      Quote: Silvestr
      Quote: Terenin
      I’m ready, during the “debriefing”, to confirm to your owners from the State Department that, although you have mediocrely lost the anti-voting company, you tried very hard.


      Doctor-patient: - I have bad news for you ...
      - Doctor! I will die?
      - Not! We will treat you.

      By the way, the normal film "Brother-2", especially the place where Bandera is "treated":
      “You, bastards, answer for Sevastopol!”
  • Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 19: 53 New
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    I saw this fake - a product of Platoshkin. Are you so stupid to contend with him? A worthy client of Platoshkin! wassat As for me, she is unjustifiably mildly treated with these idiots - white-bellies. Look how in France, with representatives of the "yellow vests", or how in other "fair-faced" countries they are "democratically" treating the "opposition" - batons, tear gas, and just a little lead pill, so that it’s not bad! The Chinese - in general, well done, after the Tien-An-Men quiet and smooth, and GDP jumped up sharply! So do not give me this argument - it’s not worth a damn! I don’t understand at all, why are they talking with these white puppies? My would be - they would not have been!
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      Finally! We were waiting for you so, my friend! Explain to us fools what fake is? Where did she lie hidden? And, preferably, please point by point.
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    here they’ve blinded the video, counted ... for life! rules for life, for life in the council of federations = mathematics does not converge. clearly victims of the exam.
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    Quote: gurzuf
    why does this amendment scare you?

    The fact that zeroed will still be in power for many years, while there will be jurisdictions and even though there is not a single indicator (demography, economics, medicine, industry, etc.) that would say that a person location. The state is degrading, and this is a fact, as is its political system.
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      Quote: Svarog
      The state is degrading and this is a fact

      What are you saying? Oh really? It’s strange, but, for example, the State Department and the European Commission believe the opposite - that the strengthening of Russia and the threat to US interests are growing, and you don’t give any facts - just screaming “everything is lost, everything is asking ... are polymers!” Notably, then Vladimir Vladimirovich nipped you, respect to him! No wonder I and all my relatives "FOR!" voted! Nothing, the time will come and FOR REPEATED Presidential Powers MANDATORY vote! yes
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        Quote: Igor Aviator
        What are you saying? Oh really? Strange, but, for example, the State Department and the European Commission

        Naturally, the strengthening of Russia is not profitable for the United States and Europe, and for this reason, we only trade in raw materials and weapons .. the weapon is good from the USSR left .. We have been assigned the role of a raw materials appendage and you are happy about it .. sadly ..
        and you don’t give any facts - just cries of “everything is lost, everything is asking ... are polymers!”

        You obviously don’t know how to listen and see .. What’s there .. the statistics will bring you, you trust him .. here and see how we have demography, the economy .. and so on, whoever wants to see and hear will hear ..
        Notably, then Vladimir Vladimirovich nipped you, respect to him!

        You are talking about pension reform now, about total impoverishment .. yes, notably they work ..
        Nothing, the time will come and for REPEATED Presidential Powers MANDATORY VOTE! yes

        Different times may come ..
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        Strange, but, for example, the State Department and the European Commission believe the opposite - that the strengthening of Russia and the threat to US interests are growing.

        Did you come up with this yourself, or is one of them calling you regularly? And, even if this is true, then ordinary workers from their military-industrial complex also want to eat. You have with the Americans, as in Krylov’s fable: “A cuckoo praises a rooster for praising that cuckoo” ....
        and you don’t give any facts - just screams "everything is lost, everything is asking ... are polymers!

        No, well, it’s already nagging! They threw so many facts to him, even showed a movie - you have to rejoice and boldly throw your breast at the embrasure (that is, at the facts), but in response there is only some miserable tussle and ridiculous sweeping accusations ....
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    The article is just a masterpiece! In addition, I, too, was born in the USSR and I understand something ... It was necessary, the author is proud that he ate compote, ice cream and gauno at one go!
    And you voted for the expansion of the powers of the Federation Council, the nullification of the terms of the darkest and the elimination of it and the clique from any responsibility !!!

    But this is the main reason for all the amendments!
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      ice cream and gauno in one plate!


      apparently the majority of those who voted for the amendments in the USSR ate only ice cream and only a few percent who are against the amendments are still doing the same.
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        I’ll correct it a little: those who “against” really dislike that those who “for” in the USSR ate ice cream, they would like everyone to eat “THEY” themselves.
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          Well, it’s immediately obvious that toilet humor turns you on and you are always ready to support this tension (instead of responding with feeling and arrangement to specific facts) .... wink
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      It was necessary, the author is proud that he ate compote, ice cream and gauno at one go at a time!

      There is simply such a category of people about whom they say: goofan elk is not a mammoth, it will not die out. Let them eat this gauno, processed by a propaganda-patriotic perfume, a full spoon.
      As for the vote, our apartment rang the bell last night. I open, there are three ladies from the election commission, they offered to vote ahead of schedule. Naturally, I refused, said that I would not participate in this circus in principle.
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        It’s interesting that the girls dance “ahead of schedule” if the voting has already begun. laughing Forgot to say that you are the daughter of a Russian officer wink
        1. mdsr 28 June 2020 14: 21 New
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          It’s interesting that the girls dance “ahead of schedule” if the voting has already begun.

          What is not clear? Voting at polling stations is underway and, in parallel, bypass all houses. Naturally, they cannot get around everything in one day. Yesterday they reached us.
          Quote: gurzuf
          Forgot to say that you are the daughter of a Russian officer
          This is not at the address. You need to reset to zero with this question.
          1. gurzuf 28 June 2020 14: 32 New
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            The meaning of the word "early" according to Ozhegov: early - carried out earlier than the deadline.
            1. mdsr 28 June 2020 16: 51 New
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              Quote: gurzuf
              The meaning of the word "early" according to Ozhegov: early - carried out earlier than the deadline.

              I'm from people like you, just amazed.
              July 1 is the day of voting on constitutional amendments. From June 25 to June 30 you can vote ahead of schedule, having come to the polling station or at home, if members of the election commission come to you, as well as in 2 regions, you can vote online. Voting before July 1 is an early voting, as All-Russian voting day is scheduled for July 1.
      2. matross 28 June 2020 13: 27 New
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        Naturally, I refused, said that I would not participate in this circus in principle.

        And I will. Also fundamentally. But not in the circus, but in the vote. I vote FOR the amendments. I consider them correct and necessary.
        Almost all my friends and relatives count as well. These are real people, different, young and mature, mostly educated. I know them, but there are no “deniers” from the Internet.
        So it seems that Russia will vote for the amendments. As if someone did not want the opposite.
        PS I'm from St. Petersburg.
        1. Revival 28 June 2020 14: 04 New
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          Of course he will vote, no matter how anyone wants to, you can’t argue here.
          With "state employees" everything is so clear.
          By the way, do not know how much pride and conscience today?
          1. matross 28 June 2020 14: 15 New
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            Quote: Revival
            how much is pride and conscience now?

            I do not know, did not trade. Tell us about your experience?
            1. Revival 28 June 2020 14: 18 New
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              Yes, I’m just watching messages from public sector employees, in particular, on the Internet, how they are given instructions on how to vote, and so the question arose, how does it bend and trade with conscience and pride
              1. RESEARCHER 28 June 2020 14: 55 New
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                In how all overexcited. You might think that from the rejection of amendments the next day the kingdom of heaven will come. To my conscience, you have questions.
                For me, your idea of ​​conscience is something new.
                I read the comments of opponents of a strong state and saw nothing but agony. Your card is a bit, gentlemen, whiners and forever dissatisfied.
                And in general, here is my advice to you. Better get down to business and try to give no more than 15 minutes a week to your fiery speeches on this site.
                1. Revival 28 June 2020 14: 57 New
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                  To your conscience, it’s just that the questions have completely disappeared, it’s useless to ask questions into the void ...
                2. Revival 28 June 2020 14: 58 New
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                  You might think that from the adoption of amendments the next day the kingdom of heaven will come.
                3. Per se. 28 June 2020 15: 54 New
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                  Quote: RESEARCHER
                  You might think that from the rejection of amendments the next day the kingdom of heaven will come.
                  You might think that from the adoption of the amendments this "kingdom of heaven" will not come either. Did the constitution, without amendments, force the president to raise his retirement age (although he assured that while he was president, this would not happen, as well as adjusting the constitution for anyone)? Do you think the amendments will change everything for the better?

                  Why are only part of the amendments twisted in advertising, there is not a single character who would say that I can dissolve the Duma and remove objectionable judges at any time, what kind of resetting deadlines do I have? Is it objective, is it honest? Why are the amendments reduced to one list, where it literally turns out that by agreeing that you are for “white”, below you automatically agree for “black”, which is not particularly advertised. This is not only a violation of existing provisions on amendments to the Constitution, but also outright scam.

                  You can understand those who bought, who benefit from it, but you cannot understand those who wanted the best, but will come out, as always ... It’s hard to understand what kind of “Damocles Sword” hangs over Domokl, that he campaigns with such tenacity for something that is unlikely to be good for Russia, especially if such enormous powers fall into another president, who is much more dependent on the West. Some naive Vasya Pupkin from Mukhos-ka may not understand this, but not the "former rebel" experienced Alexander Staver, actually campaigning for usurpation of power.
              2. matross 28 June 2020 14: 56 New
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                So ask those who are "kind of giving instructions." At the same time, you will find out whether payment is attached to the instructions or not.
                I serve in ... a federal budget organization wink soldier and no one gave me “like instructions” on how to vote. And to ensure the appearance of a subordinate l / s, too. Here is the order to provide OPPORTUNITY for voting, yes it was. This is a common practice.
                1. Revival 28 June 2020 17: 15 New
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                  So I say "normal practice."
              3. Zvonarev 29 June 2020 14: 23 New
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                That’s interesting, I’m a state employee, only no one turned to me "how to vote." Maybe in Chelyabinsk the wrong state employees?
          2. Gardamir 28 June 2020 16: 15 New
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            how much is pride and conscience now?
            You are a little wrong here. If the state employee does not go to provide the turnout, then he will be provided with unemployment.
            These obviously burns out. You can fake voices, but how to fake turnout.
            1. Revival 28 June 2020 17: 25 New
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              Well, why is it wrong.
              Then the price is the opportunity to work.
              With a different approach, we can gradually reach the excuse of the Vlasovites
              1. Pereira 28 June 2020 18: 45 New
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                Our cinema is confidently moving in this direction.
            2. sniperino 28 June 2020 21: 10 New
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              Quote: Gardamir
              If the state employee does not go to provide the turnout, then he will be provided with unemployment.
              Somehow not enough, listlessly - without courage ... A pensioner will be taken away from a pension, parents - children ... So many options, but you have no creativity. It smells of incompetence, if I may say so about this amber ...
          3. begemot20091 29 June 2020 05: 00 New
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            You seem to have had enough money. It is a pity that there is no conscience.
        2. Simargl 28 June 2020 17: 22 New
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          Quote: matRoss
          I vote FOR the amendments. I consider them correct and necessary.
          Which one is right? I haven’t found it.
          Useless and harmful are, but necessary ... they are in your dreams.
          1. begemot20091 29 June 2020 07: 02 New
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            and tried to read something? and the previous one, without amendments, like it? oh- again about zeroing the tale begin. Well, fucking to help you.
            1. Simargl 29 June 2020 07: 40 New
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              Quote: begemot20091
              and tried to read something?
              I know the letters. I tried it. And the amendments, and the current, and the USSR.
              So: the amendments suggest useless and harmful. Making life better is not.
              I do not understand something? Well point me. I want to be wrong.
              You can lick the insane yourself: he rams against the vote.
        3. Varyag71 29 June 2020 10: 30 New
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          Are you not from the Internet?
      3. Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 20: 37 New
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        Quote: mdsr
        He refused, said that I would not participate in this circus in principle.

        Interestingly, people say that it is the “Pepsi generation”, that is, those who did not see, and did NOT FEEL the whole horror of the 90s! What can I say, fools!
    3. Maximilian37 28 June 2020 14: 50 New
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      and how old were you "born in the USSR"?
      1. Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 20: 45 New
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        Quote: Maximilian37
        and how old were you "born in the USSR"?

        For thirty I was when our regiment was taken to Kaluga forests.
        1. begemot20091 29 June 2020 05: 05 New
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          I guess from the GSVG? You went there enthusiastically. And why, when they took them out to the forest, didn’t leave the service? Would you go to business, to the factory? Just don’t say that factories didn’t work all. I do not believe it, he worked until recently from that illustrious time. And if it’s bad near Kaluga, there are many places in Siberia.
    4. Achilles 28 June 2020 18: 21 New
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      And you voted for the expansion of the powers of the Federation Council, the nullification of the terms of the darkest and the elimination of it and the clique from any responsibility !!!

      But this is the main reason for all the amendments!

      Also in the amendments there is a clause where it says how immunity can be deprived of the president and all any including. So everyone is nullified? So at the moment, who can be appointed president for Putin's place? In general, I think with full democracy there shouldn’t be a number of terms (for example, in the United States when they accepted a declaration of independence, you could run for as many times as you like, but after Roosevelt visited more than two times, they decided to cancel it), so if people trust why not
      1. Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 21 New
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        It’s not necessary to blame the people. And the United States is correctly referenced, this is the most powerful country in the world, and they achieved this, among other things, by their constitution, which says that the president has no more than 2 terms of 4 years. Probably many consider them stupid for this, in vain - look at the power of their country, at the standard of living.
        1. Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 18 New
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          More than 40 million homeless and poor people have already watched in this powerful country, and now there’s an ass in general there in connection with protests and layoffs.
        2. Pavel57 29 June 2020 01: 43 New
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          Roosevelt had three terms.
      2. Igor Aviator 28 June 2020 20: 58 New
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        So everyone is nullified?

        No, all of them, like the State Department, which paid for all this howl, are rooted in the idea that Russia, under the control of the hated Putin, will gain absolute independence, including: withdrawing its Central Bank from their control, introducing the primacy of its laws, excommunication double agent powers, and more ...
      3. Simargl 29 June 2020 07: 45 New
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        Quote: Achilles
        Also in the amendments there is a clause where it says how immunity can be deprived of the president and all any including.
        Does Article 93 not allow this?
    5. volodimer 28 June 2020 21: 15 New
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      Recently I read a lot of comments that those who are against amendments are directly agents of the SGA, bulk, Khodorkovsky, LGBT and all the evil forces that want evil to our homeland. Have come to propaganda.
      In 2014, after the Crimea, I told everyone that VV received indulgence for everything previous, he could then do anything and the people would support him. But this anything became a "pension reform", which he promised not to carry out. Now the constitution and the nullification ... What was also promised not to do ...
      I am against amendments. But not because I’m an agent of the State Department, But because I’m sick! There was continuous humiliation from the whole vertical: deputies, measures, governors, senators, and even bureaucrats of all levels could not be counted.
      The Rutskoi and the Khazbulatovs, the Nemtsov and Kasparov, the Bulk with the Khodorkovsky were alien to me ...
      But for some reason, I am always confronted with a choice between a “giant enema and a shit sandwich” as in the cartoon South Park. That is, a choice without a choice. And then there’s a wonderful phrase from a haha ​​guarantor who promised to guarantee nothing to change, that we need to work, and not look for receivers ....
      Now for sure, I won’t live up to retirement, and my heirs will not live up to the change of guarantor.
      After all, he brought it to the point that the people who supported him a couple of years ago were involuntarily in the same trench with the bulk they despised. It was necessary to be able to. Congratulations to you BB!
  • Sotskiy 28 June 2020 11: 54 New
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    Quote: Varyag_0711
    SO "FOR" WHAT ARE YOU ALL VOTING VOTING?

    "FOR" Preservation and perpetuation of the merits of Yeltsin in the form of the "Yeltsin Center" and the entire "team of" reformers ".
    “FOR” Preservation and strengthening, legitimation and refusal to review the results of the “privatization” of the 90s.
    “FOR” The Wailing Walls and the continuation of further denigrating the Soviet past of the country.
    "FOR" Pension reform, tax increases according to the "official" and planned (!) Inflation.
    “FOR” Further continuation of the “optimizations” and de-industrialization of the country.
    "FOR" The capitalist path of "development" of a separate society on the territory of the Russian Federation and the further stratification of social groups of citizens of the country.
    In general, for the very Yeltsin Constitution, which essentially remains unchanged, as well as the political system generated by it.
    Those who voted “AGAINST”, in fact, voted in favor of preserving the same Yeltsin Constitution, only without the amendments that are already spelled out in the Federal Law.
    The result. All who voted "FOR" and those who voted "AGAINST" voted for the same thing. lol
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go on my own and will not let my own go, so as not to betray the legitimacy of this farce!

    good At least one sensible response to the "thimble game" nationwide.
    1. Simargl 28 June 2020 17: 25 New
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      At least one sensible response to the "thimble game" nationwide.
      Really?
      1000 said FOR, 1000 thought they were against, but said NO of them 500 ...
      ... and so it turned out: 1000 - FOR, 500 - AGAINST.
  • tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 28 June 2020 11: 56 New
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    Well, exit the site, otherwise it’s blah blah blah ...
  • Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 12 New
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    Quote: Varyag_0711
    At least one of the supporters of the “FOR” vote can clearly tell me without pathetics, for what exactly did you vote?

    And can you personally explain why you do not like Russia's withdrawal from American control? Legal control, by the way.
    Why did the Hague arbitration make semi-fraudulent Yukos, bought for $ 2 million (in a collateral auction), made it equal to Microsoft of those years? And according to the Yeltsin constitution, the decisions of the Hague arbitration prevail over the requirements of the Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos on the fact of tax evasion.
    Sakhalin given to Shell for a pat on the shoulder. Take as much oil as you like, cut and take out the forest, well, and Russia - how much you will give, we will be happy. If Shell sues, in accordance with the current constitution, we will be obliged to return all profits not received by Shell for a decade and a half. The priority of American laws over Russian.
    And it suits you!
    Yes, if it weren’t for Zero, you are now not protesting on the Internet, but using a digging stick for the rhizome of dandelion in the Irtysh flood plain.
    1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 12: 33 New
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      Oyo Sarkazmi
      And can you personally explain why you do not like Russia's withdrawal from American control?
      Do not tell my slippers ... laughing WHAT Amendment Indicates US Out of Control? Maybe the Constitution prescribed in black and white that the CBR is no longer under the control of the US Federal Reserve?
      Do not think that everyone is as naive as you are!
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 57 New
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        Quote: Varyag_0711
        that the CBR is no longer under the control of the US Federal Reserve?

        Indicate the law on the control of the Central Bank of Russia by the Fed. Just stupid mriy. Otherwise, the gold of the Reserve Fund has long migrated into the pockets of American government officials. As under Yeltsin, he arrived, gave advice, took away a million and shares of the oil company.
        1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 16: 00 New
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          Oyo Sarkazmi (Oyo Sarkazmi)
          Indicate the law on the control of the Central Bank of Russia by the Fed.
          Well, yes, the Americans go so far that they have enacted an entire “LAW” on the control of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation by the US Federal Reserve ?! Where are you the only ones fool the only ones taken away?
          Do not think that all around you are alone fool fool fool There are people who are able to think independently and understand what is written between the lines.
          Tell me more that the Yeltsin Constitution was written not without the help of the CIA, and I laugh ... laughing
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 16: 32 New
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            Quote: Varyag_0711
            there are people who can think independently and understand what is written between the lines.

            People? I doubt it. A standard set of AI phrases.
            Ishcho, so thinking and big-eyed, how did you miss the 100 pages of the principles of the destruction of the Ukrainian economy and people between the lines in the Ukraine-EU treaty on European integration?
          2. Varyag71 29 June 2020 10: 37 New
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            In Yunarmiya it seems they are recruited after the exam
    2. Revival 28 June 2020 14: 09 New
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      "Why don't you like Russia's withdrawal from American control?"

      Because how they did it, they will continue to do it.
      I bet that from July 2 we will not stop paying, but will we continue to pay?
      1. Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 22 New
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        Do you pay the Fed?
    3. Simargl 28 June 2020 17: 59 New
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      Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
      And according to the Yeltsin constitution, the decisions of the Hague arbitration prevail over the requirements of the Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos on the fact of tax evasion.
      You are lying: the international court is not mentioned by any means in the Constitution!
      1. sniperino 28 June 2020 21: 27 New
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        Quote: Simargl
        Article 15
        The article was brought up correctly, but you are trying to interpret its meaning.
        1. Simargl 28 June 2020 21: 35 New
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          Quote: sniperino
          trying to distort its meaning.
          How can it be twisted?
          We look at the article:
          Quote: Simargl
          15.4. Generally recognized principles и norms international law and international treaties The Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If international an agreement The Russian Federation established other rules than those provided by law, the rules of international contract.
          Now look at the quote:
          Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
          solutions The Hague Arbitration prevail over requirements Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos after tax evasion.

          Now the question is: what exactly did I misinterpret? And with what fright do the decisions of the Hague arbitration comply with international law?
          And how will the amendment prevent the Ministry of Finance from bending next time due to leaky laws in the past?
          1. sniperino 28 June 2020 23: 39 New
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            Quote: Simargl
            Now the question is: what exactly did I misinterpret?
            This:
            Quote: Simargl
            Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
            And according to the Yeltsin constitution, the decisions of the Hague arbitration prevail over the requirements of the Russian Ministry of Finance to Yukos on the fact of tax evasion.

            You are lying: the international court is not mentioned by any means in the Constitution!
            Oyo Sarkazmi writes for sure: "according to the Yeltsin constitution." You distort, accusing him of lying, because no one claims that it says exactly about the Hague Tribunal. The essence of the matter is that the country's constitution should prevent the possibility of such agreements by future authorities. It does not say anything about the Barents Sea, but the integrity amendment excludes such agreements. No need to stir up the water.
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              You distort, accusing him of lying, because no one claims that it says exactly about the Hague Tribunal.
              Not a tribunal, but arbitration. However, I'm talking about the court in general. And I say that the decisions of the international court must be implemented in the Constitution is not indicated at all. Norms - yes.
              Quote: sniperino
              The essence of the matter is that the country's constitution should prevent the possibility of such agreements by future authorities.
              Those. Do you want the appearance of "Sharia" on the principle that you are not a decree to us? But didn’t think what could lead to?

              Quote: sniperino
              It does not say anything about the Barents Sea, but the integrity amendment excludes such agreements.
              Have you read the corrections carefully? In another comment, I pointed out that changing borders is provided, but without the participation of the people. And he also indicated how the alienation of territories would take place (strictly according to the amendments).

              Quote: sniperino
              No need to stir up the water.
              Am I torturing this ?! Maybe you are trying to justify a lie? It turns out, and you lie?
              I am for the truth. Let not everyone like it.
      2. ghby 29 June 2020 12: 20 New
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        Article 79

        The Russian Federation may participate in interstate associations and transfer to them part of its powers in accordance with international treaties of the Russian Federation, if this does not entail restrictions on the rights and freedoms of man and citizen and does not contradict the foundations of the constitutional system of the Russian Federation. Decisions of interstate bodies adopted on the basis of the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretation, contrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, shall not be enforced in the Russian Federation.]
        I highlighted the change. I think the question is this and this change is positive in my opinion. and directly refers to Yukos and international arbitration.
        1. Simargl 29 June 2020 15: 20 New
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          change i highlighted
          Especially for you:
          Quote: ghby
          Quote: extract from art. 79
          based on the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretationcontrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation
          Those. this item is excessbecause enough clarification Constitutional Court, which was done not so long ago.
    4. sniperino 28 June 2020 21: 22 New
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      Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
      The priority of American laws over Russian. And it suits you!
      And even feeds some.
    5. Whowhy 29 June 2020 00: 06 New
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      YUKOS is an intra-family showdown, for which for some reason the Russian people are paying. And who made a contract with Shell? Oh, I don’t hear? And who gave the lands to the Chinese and Norwegians without asking the people in a referendum (according to the Declaration on State Sovereignty, the adoption of which we celebrate on May 12)? You don’t know either? And who is going to alienate Russian lands through these notorious "federal territories", on which even Russian laws will not apply (according to the amendment again)? What - haven't you read it? And who (again according to the amendment) is going to freely give away Russian territories through negotiations, hiding behind the incomprehensible word “delimitation” to most people? What again did not read?
      1. Zvonarev 29 June 2020 14: 39 New
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        What, excuse me, are we celebrating May 12?
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          June of course. repeat love
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        For the increment of the Crimea, you voted in a referendum ???
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    Quote: Varyag_0711
    My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go on my own and will not let my own go, so as not to betray the legitimacy of this farce!

    You don’t even have to go, they themselves come. They have already come to me. I refused to participate in this clowning.
    1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 14: 03 New
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      Donskoy (Vasily Ivanovich)
      You don’t even have to go, they themselves come. They have already come to me. I refused to participate in this clowning.
      They also came to me yesterday, and to their mother-in-law the day before yesterday. He sent everyone to a well-known address, but politely, without using non-normative vocabulary. All the same, ordinary people there, the same as me, are only state employees, i.e. people are a priori bonded.
  • BigBoss 28 June 2020 16: 22 New
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    You have to go vote against. Otherwise, instead of you, the employees of the election commission will vote for your amendments with your ballot. No need to give them a chance to rig the vote.
    1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 16: 41 New
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      You didn’t understand, you already voted for you, Pamfilova told you this in Russian. It doesn’t matter which lock you put “FOR” or “AGAINST”; A note that you have already received the newsletter. And HOW they vote, it’s not important anymore, it’s important how they count!
      Just think for yourself, WHY is such a massive advertising coming? Does the slogan “vote or lose” mean nothing to you? WHY such mass advertising was launched on ALL media? Even the fucked TNT and he connected. Don't you find this strange? WHY such a massive advertising?
      And then, with your ARRIVAL at the polling station, PERSONALLY YOU will legitimize this FARS! Already voted for you, HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS?!?!?! YOU NEED ANOTHER ONLY !!!
      Understand it already!
      1. Simargl 28 June 2020 18: 08 New
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        And then, that by YOUR ARRIVAL at the polling station, PERSONALLY YOU will legitimize this FARS!
        Nonsense! Legitimate without you! All who did not say their word - in fact, cast a voice of the opposite content.
        1. Normal ok 28 June 2020 20: 21 New
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          Quote: Simargl
          Quote: Varyag_0711
          And then, that by YOUR ARRIVAL at the polling station, PERSONALLY YOU will legitimize this FARS!
          Nonsense! Legitimate without you! All who did not say their word - in fact, cast a voice of the opposite content.

          In fact, everything is much sadder. Did you read the news about how journalist Pavel Lobkov voted twice without problems in one day (remotely and personally)? In other words, whether you come or not, vote “for” or “against,” this is no longer important. Any turnout figures and approvals will be drawn. This is not even a scam, it is a slave system.
          1. Simargl 28 June 2020 21: 05 New
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            Quote: Normal ok
            Lobkov in one day voted twice without problems (remotely and personally)?
            Is the further fate of the votes known? Cancellation of electronic records in the presence of paper - is this rubbish?

            Quote: Normal ok
            In other words, whether you come or not, vote “for” or “against,” this is no longer important.
            Those. Do you continue to agitate for absolutely legitimate winding up?

            Quote: Normal ok
            This is not even a scam, it is a slave system.
            When was it canceled?
      2. Whowhy 29 June 2020 00: 12 New
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        You didn’t understand anything - it’s just for the authorities that it is very beneficial for everyone who is potentially against staying at home. So, all these slogans are just invented by the authorities:
        “The authorities are only interested in the appearance, and the percentage will be drawn as needed. When we come, we increase turnout, that is, we play into the hands of the authorities. ”
        Then they can draw an appearance, then what would be the point in coming to agitation? Obviously, despite the possibility of fraud, something depends on the real results.
        "The authorities made a farce, voting is illegal, I am disgusted to participate in this."
        If we adhere to such a strategy, it will be beneficial for the authorities to organize more and more disgusting and more and more illegal electoral events each time, and then report on their support to the people. Do we want this?
        “By participating in the vote, we will legitimize (si) rule the regime.”
        It is not clear what this mythical legitimation means. What are the specific mechanisms of this process? For example, if in the country there will be 70% of the people “against”, 30% “for”, and out of 30% “for” everyone will come, and out of 70% “against” no one will come - how will this help “delegitimize” the regime? On the contrary, if 70% “against” comes and their votes cannot be completely falsified (or even succeeded - but we know that the signs of falsification are subsequently clarified by a variety of methods) - how does this legitimize the regime?
        "I do not want to participate in the game with cheaters."
        This is an incorrect analogy. If you are offered to play a game and you refuse, the game will not take place (and if it does, its outcome will not affect you in any way). A vote will take place in any case, and its outcome in any case will affect us. If you try to make this analogy correct - we are already in the game, we have already given the money away, and now we can try to take it away from the sharpie, or just leave with our head down.
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          Quote: whowhy

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          You didn’t understand anything - it’s just for the authorities that it is very beneficial for everyone who is potentially against staying at home. So, all these slogans are just invented by the authorities:
          “The authorities are only interested in the appearance, and the percentage will be drawn as needed. When we come, we increase turnout, that is, we play into the hands of the authorities. ”
          Then they can draw an appearance, then what would be the point in coming to agitation? Obviously, despite the possibility of fraud, something depends on the real results.
          "The authorities made a farce, voting is illegal, I am disgusted to participate in this."
          If we adhere to such a strategy, it will be beneficial for the authorities to organize more and more disgusting and more and more illegal electoral events each time, and then report on their support to the people. Do we want this?
          “By participating in the vote, we will legitimize (si) rule the regime.”
          It is not clear what this mythical legitimation means. What are the specific mechanisms of this process? For example, if in the country there will be 70% of the people “against”, 30% “for”, and out of 30% “for” everyone will come, and out of 70% “against” no one will come - how will this help “delegitimize” the regime? On the contrary, if 70% “against” comes and their votes cannot be completely falsified (or even succeeded - but we know that the signs of falsification are subsequently clarified by a variety of methods) - how does this legitimize the regime?
          "I do not want to participate in the game with cheaters."
          This is an incorrect analogy. If you are offered to play a game and you refuse, the game will not take place (and if it does, its outcome will not affect you in any way). A vote will take place in any case, and its outcome in any case will affect us. If you try to make this analogy correct - we are already in the game, we have already given the money away, and now we can try to take it away from the sharpie, or just leave with our head down.

          I thought about going to vote for a long time or not, but I read your fiery agitation and decided that we should not disappoint a fiery Russian patriot like you! I'll go tomorrow, vote for the amendments! Thank you, convinced! drinks
    2. Simargl 28 June 2020 18: 05 New
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      Quote: BigBoss
      You have to go vote against.
      Need to go. And vote.
      Quote: BigBoss
      Otherwise, instead of you, the employees of the election commission will vote for your amendments with your ballot.
      Even if this is not done, they need only a quorum and silent adversaries.
      Quote: BigBoss
      No need to give them a chance to rig the vote.
      Everything is very simple: one FOR is neutralized by one AGAINST. One outstretched AGAINST is one active FOR ...
  • Lamp post 28 June 2020 16: 35 New
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    Vote against. Ignore is sabotage.
    1. Simargl 28 June 2020 18: 11 New
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      Quote: Lamppost
      Ignore is sabotage.
      Ignore - this is +1 in the piggy bank "FOR".
      How pseudo-OPPONENTS became more active ...
      1. Lamp post 28 June 2020 19: 23 New
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        So even more so, let him hurry to vote. What are we rubbing here against?
        Ps clone Stoll, are you responsible for the Varyag in the first person?
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          What are we rubbing here against?
          So I say: did you notice how agitated those who position themselves as opponents of the amendments, but campaign to stay at home?
          But everyone who has sat out AGAINST is FOR.
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  • vadivm59 28 June 2020 16: 43 New
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    but I walked, they gave me a pen !!!. I actually went for it, I will keep it! and you didn’t go in vain with your family, they would give you a lot))). and you think that you proved something to someone? I voted for the preservation of the USSR a long time ago, and what? Everyone knows the result. So I don’t make my nerves, and I don’t advise you.
    1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 16: 54 New
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      vadivm59 (vadim)
      and I went, they gave me a pen !!!.
      CONGRATULATIONS!!! You sold the future of your children for a pen!
      I understand perfectly well that instead of me, who needs to put what record is necessary, BUT ... They can repeat as much as they like about the "popular" support, which is NOT! And I definitely DIDN'T PARTICIPATE! They can fake records as much as they like, sign for me, BUT THIS IS A LIE!
      And the only way out of this, DO NOT GO !!! "FOR or" AGAINST "they will draw as they please, but YAKU, they are unlikely to be able to draw, although they will try hard.
      SO HERE LET'S GETTING OLD !!!
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        CONGRATULATIONS!!! You sold the future of your children for a pen!

        How do amendments affect future children for the worse?
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        We have an advertisement on the radio: "It's easy to win an apartment! It’s enough to come to the polling station, vote, go to the volunteers from KP (Komsomol truth), answer three questions ... The computer will determine the winner ..."
  • Simargl 28 June 2020 17: 13 New
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    Quote: Varyag_0711
    My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce
    Fine! You are against, but give an extra vote to those who are FOR. You see, the simplest puzzle with apples is not understood by you.
    1. SVD68 28 June 2020 20: 07 New
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      Quote: Simargl

      Fine! You are against, but give an extra vote to those who are FOR. You see, the simplest puzzle with apples is not understood by you

      It is not clear to you that the apples are not there. VOTING AGAINST is also voting FOR. At least for the Yeltsin constitution. As a maximum FOR the current government, which under the Yeltsin constitution received power and lived well for herself.
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        Quote: SVD68
        VOTING AGAINST is also voting FOR.
        This would be if there were a little more points than two. And so -You are wrong!
        Quote: SVD68
        At least for the Yeltsin constitution.
        They will put a signature for you. More precisely - you do not oppose nothing.
        Quote: SVD68
        As a maximum FOR the current government, which under the Yeltsin constitution received power and lived well for herself.
        It will be even better. And YOU indulge in this.
  • Achilles 28 June 2020 17: 46 New
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    Quote: Varyag_0711
    At least one of the supporters of the “FOR” vote can clearly tell me without pathetics, for what exactly did you vote?

    1) in Article 67: b) to be supplemented with part 21 of the following content: the Russian Federation shall protect its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed. "; - This means publicly or not only to say that part of the territory should be surrendered Russia will not succeed, now they are talking about what needs to be given to Crimea, the Kuril Islands, Kaliningrad, it (the call to give part of the territory) will press on the minds of young people and can then play sideways for Russia (Do you understand the point or not?)
    2) The priority of Russian law over international. Decisions of interstate bodies adopted on the basis of the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretation that are contrary to the Constitution are not enforceable. (I think this does not need to be explained or is it necessary?)
    3) Tighter requirements for candidates for the presidency of Russia. The period of continuous residence in the country increases to 25 years from the current 10, in addition, the applicant for the highest position is prohibited from having foreign citizenship or a residence permit abroad at the time of nomination or ever in the past. - This means that it will be difficult for the authorities to break through such as Navalny, all sorts of aligarchs, such who will sell their homeland for a pittance.
    4) The entry of local governments and public authorities into a single system of public authority and the implementation of interaction for the most effective solution of problems in the interests of the population. - How is this amendment not comfortable or will it make life worse?
    5) Extension of the powers of the State Duma - approval of the candidacy of the prime minister, deputy prime ministers with ministers (with the exception of the heads of law enforcement agencies). At the same time, the president retains the right to approve the structure of federal executive bodies, make changes to it, and also dismiss the chairman of the government from office. - Is it really bad that the powers of the State Duma are expanding? Will it be bad for you personally?
    More than half of the amendments that supplement the existing ones and is it really bad? The amendments themselves will not make the life of citizens worse.
    If you are worried about extending Putin’s term, most of them support him, if you don’t support him, it doesn’t mean that no one supports him, my opinion is that there is no replacement for Putin at the moment.
    Putin is not eternal, but the amendments will remain. The Constitution was written in 93g. with the direct participation of the United States. And yes, the most important thing is for the amendments that we vote, according to the Constitution, the people’s opinion might not be asked, the constitution has parts that can be changed without the people, but there are people that can’t be done without, but here they ask us to vote (for or against) although they might not ask. + All the trash like Navolnit and traitors against amendments, this already says something.
    1. Simargl 28 June 2020 19: 30 New
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      Quote: Achilles
      Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states)
      those. people removed from the process? Well, as with Damansky, for example.
      Quote: Achilles
      This means publicly or not only saying that you need to give part of the territory of Russia will not work
      And this is not done. The territory is populated by a population loyal to a certain state, representatives penetrate into power, an disloyal population is squeezed out, and then an interstate agreement to re-mark the state border of the Russian Federation. So the amendment is Filkin’s letter and does not solve anything.

      Quote: Achilles
      The priority of Russian law over international. Decisions of interstate bodies adopted on the basis of the provisions of international treaties of the Russian Federation in their interpretation, contrary to the Constitution, are not enforceable. (I think this does not need to be explained or is it necessary?)
      It is very necessary to explain. The fact is that the current Constitution does not contain obligations to enforce decisions of any court. There is an obligation to comply with international standards. And court decisions will force us to execute sanctions, if necessary. So whether an amendment is needed that does not cancel Art. 15.4? And is it necessary to cancel it (Article 15.4)?
      Quote: Achilles
      Tighter requirements for candidates for the presidency of Russia.
      Is it really big? There is a ban on money abroad, but not in foreign banks, there is no ban on real estate ...
      Quote: Achilles
      This means that it will be difficult for the authorities to break through such as Navalny, to all ̶а̶ oligarchs, who will sell their homeland for pennies.
      Squealed like a horse! Reservation? Heavy? Will it be almost impossible to pay Navalny to Raiffeisenbank (as an example)? And how will the corruption scheme differ? Under Stalin, the inability to have foreign assets helped a lot?
      Quote: Achilles
      More than half of the amendments that supplement the existing ones and is it really bad?
      Most are useless.
      Quote: Achilles
      The amendments themselves will not make the life of citizens worse.
      There is not one. Indicate if I am mistaken.
      Quote: Achilles
      Xia trash type Navolnit and traitors against the amendments, this already says something.
      Be careful when cornering! I voted FOR Putin, but AGAINST the amendments! tongue
    2. sniperino 28 June 2020 21: 35 New
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      Quote: Achilles
      The constitution was written in 93g. with the direct participation of the United States.
      This makes small opponents of the vote so loudly strain.
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      1. Simargl 29 June 2020 04: 32 New
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        Quote: whowhy
        Do you understand the essence?
        Do you know how everything happens? 99% of the people look for clarification, because the original text is quite long (especially the whole constitution: there is more than one page) and confusing. And "clarifications" can distort the meaning as required by the author.
        Everything is exactly as you indicate.

        Quote: whowhy
        Navalny clearly showed who he was working for, announcing a boycott of the vote, thereby delaying the huge number of people who would voted "против".
        drinks yes
  • Vicontas 28 June 2020 20: 30 New
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    To Alexander Staver - as Churchill said - "He who chooses shame, not war, gets both shame and war!"
  • DPN
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    My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go myself.
    Here only: FOR or AGAINST, your ignore goes automatically FOR. so don’t powder your brains. It’s just that YOU will be fucked.
    1. Simargl 29 June 2020 07: 53 New
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      Quote: DPN
      My personal answer is FULL IGNOR of this farce, I won’t go myself.
      Select a quote somehow. Otherwise, you can assume that you say so.
  • Esaul 28 June 2020 22: 45 New
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    By the way, soon Sands may announce that indexation may be negative)))
  • bayard 29 June 2020 00: 59 New
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    Quote: Varyag_0711
    One question. WHAT actually did you vote for? WHAT was such an amendment worth voting for in bulk?

    Only one amendment is worth voting for. And if it is NECESSARY - in bulk, because everything else can then be changed, corrected.
    And this amendment is the abolition of the GLOBALITY of international (read - foreign) legislation over actually Russian one.
    ALL !
    The rest is garbage, associated noise.
    Thanks to the supremacy of THEIR legislation, juvenile justice, foreign subversive funds and other consulting companies are rampant in our country ... WE HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING AS THE CENTRAL BANK !!! A foreign, supranational structure that does not obey anyone, but at the same time controls the entire financial system, produces (regardless of the Russian state !!!) the issue of the “Russian” ruble ... keeps the level of monetization (fullness of the financial market with domestic currency) at the level of .. .40% of GDP !!! Whereas in the whole - even non-free world, this level is about 100% (even in the most extreme / worst cases - not less than 50%), and in the leading economies of the world - above 100%, and even in some - above 200%.
    How will you feel if you pump out 60% of the blood?
    But this provision (the Law on the Central Bank) does not allow changing ... international legislation, the subordination (!!!) to which is written down precisely in the Yeltsin Constitution, which was imposed on us after the 1993 massacre in Moscow.
    Do you like the "Budget Rule" too? !!!
    According to which all budget revenues are limited to us above - everything that goes beyond the permitted goes to Western, or at worst simply - foreign funds (for some reason they are called "reserve") ...
    Are you and THIS robbery ready to defend?
    Well, or SILENT ("ignore") agree?
    With the continuation of atrocities.
    Do you like the fact that the “Russian” banks issue loans at SUCH interest?
    And ONLY on bail?

    So who do you like?
    Communists who betrayed (once again) their voters?
    I didn’t hand over my Soviet passport until they seized it during the arrest of the SBU, but the modern Communist Party is a private firm named after Zyuganov, calabrants and sloths running to bow to every new US ambassador ... who advocate maintaining the inviolability of the colonial constitution, continuing this bacchanalia ...

    For me, in all these amendments, only ONE matters.
    For the sake of which this vote was started.
    In January of this year.
    When Medvedev resigned with the entire economic bloc.
    All the other (amendments) were stuck later - in the course of various ... discussions ..
    Chatted all !!!
    They came up with "zeroing" ...
    But who cares?
    Do not like this president - choose another for yourself, at least nominate yourself as a candidate.

    But it was precisely after the announcement of the amendment of the Basic Law that all the whistle began - “zeroing”, fake “epidemic”, sabotage and raging of “power” in the field ... the people are swaying in revolt, and guest workers ... like American blacks .. on robberies and robbery.
    You will track the chronology of events WHAT began immediately after the announcement of voting for genuine state sovereignty.
    And you will be very surprised how everything is harmonious and rhythmic ...
    hi
    1. Simargl 29 June 2020 05: 07 New
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      And this amendment is the abolition of the GLOBALITY of international (read - foreign) legislation over actually Russian one.
      In order to write this - you need to figure it out.
      Is your statement knowledge-based?
      Do you know that international law is discussed, adopted, enforced, including with our participation, i.e. all the rules - and our minds are the cause. In addition, ratification is required for a performance obligation.
      Are international norms really bad?
      1. bayard 29 June 2020 15: 55 New
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        Quote: Simargl
        In order to write this - you need to figure it out.

        Who's stopping you, sort it out. Now everything, or almost everything is in the public domain.
        Quote: Simargl
        Is your statement knowledge-based?

        Not in fantasies and emotions. Back in 1992, one of my programs saved one of the leading branches of the modern Russian economy from collapse. And not only from the collapse, but also from bankruptcy and, as a result, the sale of its assets to foreign companies. Now it is a bulwark and the main donor of the Russian budget.
        So I have enough horizons for my assessments.
        Quote: Simargl
        Do you know that international legislation is being discussed, adopted, enforced, including with our participation?

        Are you sure about that ? When was it with you (us) that such decisions were agreed upon?
        On the other hand, the supremacy of their legislation is spelled out in our Constitution. Therefore, the IMF, the World Bank and other funny guys are outraging ... Do you recall the "Pension reform"?
        Who obliged Russia to accept this bestiality?
        Or are you satisfied with the role and politics of the “Russian” Central Bank?
        Now we are watching how they chatted, shook and drowned the MAIN amendment, for which everything was started.
        Have you not noticed?
        Sorry .
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        Quote: Simargl
        Are international norms really bad?

        They should not contradict and replace NATIONAL legislation.
        Otherwise, THIS is simple - slavery.
        As with juvenile justice.
        Will you protect her too?
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          Quote: bayard
          They should not contradict and replace NATIONAL legislation.
          Substitute?

          Quote: bayard
          Otherwise THIS is simple - slavery
          Now slavery is politically correct called lending. The state, company, person - it does not matter to the bank who will be a slave.

          Quote: bayard
          As with juvenile justice
          They drag her with the "protection" of children. You missed it.

          Quote: bayard
          You and her will protect
          Does it exist in international law? What article? Juvenile juvenile discord. Juvenile laws in the USSR were, if that. What exactly is there to protect? Or would you just blurt out?

          Quote: bayard
          Therefore, the IMF, the World Bank and other funny guys are outraging ...
          Do not get out of bed. You do not understand what you are talking about. The IMF is rampaging for a completely different reason - because it can. Or maybe because it can impose conditions for the issuance and repayment of loans. And where is the amendment something that can stand up to the IMF and other “funny” but greedy guys?

          Quote: bayard
          You remind about the "Pension reform"?
          The problem began to be discussed in the USSR. And in any case she would be pushed. I am surprised that this was not done in the 90s.

          Quote: bayard
          Now we are watching how they chatted, shook and drowned the MAIN amendment
          Is that what? The primacy of international law not in dispute! Disputed INTERPRETATION! But on this occasion has already made an explanation to the COP !!! How to talk to you if you don’t even know how to read ?!

          If you are talking about another amendment - specify immediately, to avoid misunderstanding.
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            Quote: Simargl
            The IMF is rampaging for a completely different reason - because it can. Or maybe because it can impose conditions for the issuance and repayment of loans. And where is there something in the amendments that can withstand the IMF and other “funny” but greedy guys?

            Are you raving
            And who imposed these loans on Russia and its economy?
            And why are the "Russian" banknotes printed / emitted by the IMF regional branch?
            Because it could impose?
            But as ?
            With what ?
            IT registered in the Constitution of the Russian Federation after the bloody coup in Moscow in 1993.
            The national currency of a SOVEREIGN state must be emitted by the Treasury of that state. And the National Bank of Russia should lend to the economy, through its regional offices and, perhaps, through commercial banks, but certainly on its own terms.
            And all this should be carried out under the FULL control of the Ministry of Finance, the Head of Government and the President of the Country.
            Russia SAMA should and can lend to its economy.
            Or maybe you’ll tell me here that the “Budget Rule” is a purely “sovereign and voluntary” decision of the Russian government?
            The IMF has nothing to do with it?
            Sure ?
            And how does he do this?
            Is it because it is spelled out in the Constitution?

            And how to get rid of it?
            Explicit ordering is not possible - the Constitution prohibits.
            And how to change this article of the Constitution?
            If the Constitution does not give rights to this?
            But just the provision on the primacy of domestic law over international.
            And ONLY after the adoption of such an amendment, you can cancel the "Law on the Central Bank" and much more, applied from the outside.
            Are you against it?
            Not at all surprised.
            And you have the right to express your opinion.
            By voting against.
            But to fool people with their nonsense and incite black passions to "zero" ... not good.

            And do not deal with casuistry and verbal tricks with me ... this is pathetic and funny for a knowledgeable person.
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              Quote: bayard
              Are you raving
              Probably.

              Quote: bayard
              And who imposed these loans on Russia and its economy?
              And why are the "Russian" banknotes printed / emitted by the IMF regional branch?
              Because it could impose?
              But as ?
              With what ?
              Should I tell you a story? You did not live then? Ask your parents how and what.
              As economic ties collapsed overnight, the release of "high-quality" Soviet products using the "latest" equipment became unnecessary and unprofitable ... we omit the reasons, because important consequences - unnecessary and unprofitable. How Yeltsin began to beg for loans (og - imposed) ...

              Quote: bayard
              IT registered in the Constitution of the Russian Federation after the bloody coup in Moscow in 1993.
              Which item exactly? And then I know the letters, but I read with difficulty, it seems.

              Quote: bayard
              The IMF has nothing to do with it?
              Well, go to the bank for a loan, impose your conditions. I heard only about one person (like a Voronezh resident) who managed. Will not work? So what does the IMF have to do with its own tasks and instruments? Or someone who didn’t read the “small print”?
              Quote: bayard
              Is it because it is spelled out in the Constitution?
              Still waiting for a reference ... or article number.

              Quote: bayard
              And how to get rid of it?
              1 - Develop an army.
              2 - Constitutional Assembly.
              Everything else is from the evil one.

              Quote: bayard
              But just the provision on the primacy of domestic law over international.
              So it is not in the amendments. Not at all! You’ve been driven into a blizzard!
              There is a point that interpretations will be disputed! And this means that court decisions will be challenged, but if it is recognized that these decisions are in accordance with International Law, they will be accepted! You do not understand this? Regrettably. And one more thing: the Constitutional Court has already given explanations on this subject, so the amendment is not needed - it is useless.

              Quote: bayard
              And ONLY after the adoption of such an amendment, you can cancel the "Law on the Central Bank" and much more, applied from the outside.
              Nothing will change! The amendment does not cancel the requirements to fulfill the concluded contracts. And they will take loans - enslaving agreements and will continue to be sucked in.

              Quote: bayard
              Are you against it?
              I, in fact, against many points of the current Constitution, but also against dusting the brains and vparivaniya useless and even more harmful amendments. I do not want the bad to get worse.
              Quote: bayard
              And you have the right to express your opinion.
              By voting against.
              So am I already. Thank you for allowing.

              Quote: bayard
              But to fool people with their nonsense and incite black passions to "zero" ... not good.
              Do not attribute to me what I do not do! I do not care about "zeroing"! If it were one harmful point - would vote FOR, but this is one of the useless, among the harmful.

              Quote: bayard
              And do not deal with casuistry and verbal tricks with me ... this is pathetic and funny for a knowledgeable person.
              How so? You messed up nonsense here, but now you still do not understand the meaning of the proposal you wrote tongue
              ... however, I now realized why you do not understand the meaning of the amendments.
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      Moreover, they are silent that the pension reform was launched from above by the IMF, and not only to us.
      1. bayard 29 June 2020 16: 06 New
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        Many accepted this reform much earlier, Russia resisted ... And it (Putin) was broken through the knee, under the threat of mass attacks in the football championship.
        When Putin announced his decision to carry out constitutional reform, the entire economic bloc of the government HERE resigned, a media bacchanalia with "zeroing" began, sabotage of ALL branches of government on the ground (!), Hysteria of coronobesia with the collapse of the economy and the preparation of social explosions, shocks and riots - in the likeness of blacks in the USA.
        And who is the moderator of all these demons?
        The one whom these reforms should \ may deprive of power and control over all of us.
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          And how many times did they reset their foreign accounts? No, all the boots are kissed by the master abroad ... People of servile rank are real dogs sometimes, the heavier the punishment, the better they are gentlemen (s).
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    A rotten position. If you have to go against it, you should vote against it. Talks that anyway will count as it should be off topic. Well, let them try ... I’m going to vote against now. And even if they replace the results, at least conscience will be clear. And of course, as many people as possible are lured to the plots in the hope that those who are not satisfied with the protest will not come, but they will come to vote for. Here we have a draw of cars, apartments and smartphones)))) Give a leaf
    with questions about the knowledge of the constitution. A nurse's assistant from kindergarten won odnushka in Krasnoyarsk in Minusinsk. A class leader of the middle son agitates everyone to vote in a chat in Vaiber .... But then in general a message came from her - *** Unsubscribe, please, who already voted to me in PM. Thank you in advance!
    You understand that it is not out of personal curiosity.
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      This is a frank and thoughtful ANTI-ADVERTISING, for the formation of a completely sincere popular protest. That is, local authorities who are opposed to this reform are pumping up the come and vote hysteria, bring another, report back, vote and win the lottery, knowing full well that they will only set people against liberation from the supranational yoke.
      After all, all these actions are supposedly "for voting", carried out by the same people who sabotaged presidential decrees, plundered the budget and additional funds. payments to doctors, they told people about "macaroni" and "we did not force you to give birth."
      And they spend it EXACTLY so that people do not vote!
      And very successful in IT.
      Here I am, according to members of the forum, watching this.
      But everyone has their own right to choose, and their own free will.
      Sometimes slavery is chosen ...
      And with songs and dances.
  • alecsis69 30 June 2020 00: 08 New
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    MALADETs, go to the editorial office of Echo of Moscow or to Navalny, maybe they will buy you candy from their grants.
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    Counter-question: who do you (exactly you!) See as president of the Russian Federation? As Prime Minister? I ask for specific names, without a slurred "Well, I don’t know ... A matter of principle ... This is irrelevant ...".
  • Malyuta 28 June 2020 10: 59 New
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    It is strange that the author turned from a "hippan" into a "master", it reminds me very much of a "training manual": "I never voted for Putin, but the ox now ..."
    Friends, let's clearly define ourselves without political bias, what has the government done over the past 20 years, who has governed the country all these years? You can go through personalities, you can do their work.
    For example, I recall the Mir station, the privatization of RAO UES, Kamran, Lourdes, the total rise in price of everything from year to year, two-stage pension reform, the pension was first taken away. accumulation, and then still increased pension age, etc. You can continue for a long time ...
    I also want to note that the collapse of the Russian Federation is a bugbear, there are no prerequisites for this, but if today's leaders continue their economy policy in the same vein, it will simply die out, as the red-haired little bit of “natural selection” said.
    But these words I pity support:
    I no longer want to live the way they live there. I want to live as I like.
    and I’ll add that I want to live in a fair and prosperous country, where there are no poor, where there is a secured old age, where young people have prospects.
    Now, unfortunately, I don’t see anything of this! hi
    1. kepmor 28 June 2020 11: 25 New
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      Well, you don’t see it right ... price tags at the gas station to help you ... another breakthrough on the whole face-face ...
      today refuel at the miller ... 92nd plus immediately 70 kopecks. = 44,20 ... and the 95th is already under fifty dollars = 49,50 ...
      and July 01 has not yet arrived ...
      then after zeroing life will become even more beautiful and more fun ...
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        Quote: kepmor
        Well, you don’t see it right ... price tags at the gas station to help you ... another breakthrough on the whole face-face ...
        today refuel at the miller ... 92nd plus immediately 70 kopecks. = 44,20 ... and the 95th is already under fifty dollars = 49,50 ...
        and July 01 has not yet arrived ...
        then after zeroing life will become even more beautiful and more fun ...

        But the Zaputinites do not give a damn if their ass is warm, they just don’t understand what it is for them for a short time. I remember in 2018, after the adoption of the pension reform, many who voted for Putinism tore their hair in all places, roofing felts still will be.
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          Quote: Malyuta
          But the Zaputinites do not give a damn if their ass is warm, they just don’t understand what it is for them for a short time. I remember in 2018, after the adoption of the pension reform, many who voted for Putinism tore their hair in all places, roofing felts still will be.

          Unfortunately, many people have a memory like fish in an aquarium for 2 hours.
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            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            many people have a memory like fish in an aquarium for 2 hours
            People with bird (4-hour!) Memory definitely have reason to be proud: they sit high on the evolution tree, they can spoil others ...
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              People with bird (4-hour!) Memory definitely have reason to be proud: they sit high on the evolution tree, they can spoil others ...

              Have you been bullied by people with bird (4-hour!) Memory? If so, I am very sorry to have to wrap myself around it.
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                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Have you been bullied by people with bird (4-hour!) Memory?
                Campaign, yes, but this does not apply to you. I will not flow around, it’s better to swim and sleep.
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          Quote: Malyuta
          But the Zaputinites don't give a damn about it, if only their ass was warm, they just don’t understand that this is for them for a short time.


          on the basis of reflections on the dough and gas prices, it’s not important for Zaputin to be “ass in the heat”, but for those who are against Putin and the amendments on the priority of Russian sovereignty. then come a heart-rending screech.
          Maybe you should raise a heel to the top and see the political situation around?
          1. Revival 28 June 2020 14: 13 New
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            We can.
            Why do we see that a separate group finds everything in the trough, but the population does not find and does not find everything?
            Why is Vasilieva released a few days later and received silver coins conditionally, but a simple person sits down for a bag of potatoes for 6 years?
            Norm?
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            Quote: lopvlad
            Those who are against the Constitution, the main thing is the trough, and if they do not find something there for personal consumption, they emit a heart-rending screech.
            Naglits against the constitution laughing wink
            For example, I am against the current constitution, but even more against the wrecking amendments that they are trying to push through.
        3. Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 32 New
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          This is for those who honestly pay taxes and develop their business - forever, since nothing will hinder it, and if you and all of your people are sitting in shit and do not care at all, then this does not mean that everyone else should sit in these conditions like you.
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          But the Zaputinites do not give a damn if their ass is warm, they just don’t understand what it is for them for a short time. I remember in 2018, after the adoption of the pension reform, many who voted for Putinism tore their hair in all places, roofing felts still will be.

          It will be for Kuyevlians for happiness. We know. wink
    2. Dart2027 28 June 2020 11: 38 New
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      I want to live in a fair and prosperous country where there are no poor

      That is, in Paradise.
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        Quote: Dart2027

        That is, in Paradise.

        But without Putin wassat
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          Zadolbali you heresy to write. Why are you my friend so Putin does not like it? This is the direct mantra of Lebourds. You are probably a dream of paradise. And with reality, then at least somehow not friends? Putin interferes with him, probably directly directly interferes. .. And who else? Nabiulina, Miller, why what? You take any one and write the same thing about him and everyone “steals” about everyone, bureaucrats gobbled up, everywhere they thought up a hut and a fall .. Well, so ... Calm down if the anxiety is so high, consult a doctor, and do not lick your likes like not very distant people. It's just funny to look at your group therapy. Anyone who is not of your opinion will be spit on you. And here I am not of your opinion, and exactly the same people as you are, and I am in favor of the amendment. And I will be removed to vote and my family will be. Since I do not have the opportunity to vote not remotely. It’s unpleasant for me when you are posing as "all the people". Rude not recommend. Like nonsense with the code words "Without Putin," this beloved saying of all the stubborn "leburoids."
          1. tracer 28 June 2020 12: 14 New
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            And Sasha Rogers wrote everything right. And I followed exactly the same path of personality development as he did, as did millions of my fellow citizens.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2 28 June 2020 13: 18 New
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              Quote: tracer
              And Sasha Rogers wrote everything right. And I followed exactly the same path of personality development as he did, as did millions of my fellow citizens.

              Judging by the fact that you refer to trelodgers as an authority on your personality development, you dreamed.
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                For me, Rogers is not an authority. These are important authorities for you. And just so that at least sometimes "at the bucket push." I draw conclusions in life not by any indication, but myself. So I’ll manage without your opinion.
            2. sniperino 28 June 2020 22: 01 New
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              And I followed exactly the same path of personality development as he did, as did millions of my fellow citizens.
              One of the rare articles here about the time of "developed socialism", in which you see the real life of young people in the USSR, and not hear the program "Lenin University of Millions".
          2. bk0010 28 June 2020 12: 23 New
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            Quote: tracer
            Zadolbali you heresy write
            This is called "truth."
            Quote: tracer
            Why are you my friend so Putin does not like it?
            The fact that his actions lead to the degradation of the country.
            Quote: tracer
            Putin interferes with him, probably directly directly interferes. .. And who else? Nabiulina, Miller, why what? You take anyone and write the same thing about him and about everyone “everyone stealing” together, bureaucrats snickering, everywhere a hut
            That is, you are aware of this, but anyway, for? However...
            Quote: tracer
            Calm down if the anxiety is so high, consult a doctor, and do not lick the likes of your own kind of not very distant people.
            Do not tell me what to do and I will not tell you where to go.
            Quote: tracer
            It’s unpleasant for me when you are posing as "all the people".
            Bear the truth.
            1. tracer 28 June 2020 12: 28 New
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              My friend, you got the truth with the phantoms of the not-so-healthy desire to hype on the site. For the mentally inadequate, their nonsense is true, but exclusively for them. But you will be cured, or orderlies will re-educate your reality. Swallow this pill and drink some water.
              1. bk0010 28 June 2020 12: 31 New
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                My friend, you have a TV instead of a brain, severe poisoning by nightingale droppings. Look around you, make an effort, bring your picture of the world in accordance with reality, not with the picture.
                1. tracer 28 June 2020 12: 39 New
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                  I have many TVs, on asech 3 floors of my house, but there is no time to watch them especially. As well as hanging on the site endlessly. Those who really are doing something they are busy people. So you gudanul again in a puddle, as usual. Your measured punishment with impunity here on the site comes precisely from the fact that normal people just have no time to deal with you and put you in a stall in verbal battles.
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                    Normal people are on my side, but you are in the stall.
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                      Do you have a beer can and pension with a monitor? Not these are not people .. These are not living organisms at all, even though you are talking to them. What are you sad friend? Accustomed to yapping at anyone who is positive and good in life sees and does. Nothing, get used to it.
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      2. Magnat231 28 June 2020 13: 35 New
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        And what are you normal about, when you blamed the union, you were in the first sobs too, I wanted a different life, Borya came, also not that Putin came, and he is not needed, and who, last name in the studio
      3. bk0010 28 June 2020 13: 45 New
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        When the union fell, I was too small for the front ranks, so the claim is not for me. And I just really would not want another collapse and revolution (for purely selfish reasons). In contrast, apparently, from the current powers that be, which are ruining the economy and embitter the population. It’s hard with surnames: the current camarilla makes great efforts so that the country does not know about new leaders. So for starters - Grudinin (he will disperse the Sechins with the Rottenbergs), and then we'll see.
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        for starters - Grudinin (he will disperse the Sechins with the Rottenbergs), and then we'll see.
        To begin with, he will squeeze out their business, there is nothing to watch. Only he will not come, better wait for Santa Claus: this one always comes with gifts.
    3. Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 32 New
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      Surname Ivanov.
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    in the madhouse today is a day off. your team will definitely have a replenishment.
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    What is your house? What are 3 floors? Storyteller.
    1. Mordvin 3 29 June 2020 11: 05 New
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      What is your house? What are 3 floors? Storyteller.

      This patriot from Canada is scribbling.
  • Timeout 1 July 2020 08: 24 New
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    I have many TVs, on asech 3 floors of my house,

    Well, yes, tell me what else is bought and not in a mortgage.
    Quote: tracer
    but there’s no time to watch them. As well as hanging on the site endlessly.

    For that you quote Putin as if RenTV was watching without stopping. It's funny ..
  • Achilles 28 June 2020 18: 37 New
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    Quote: bk0010
    Quote: tracer
    Why are you my friend so Putin does not like it?
    The fact that his actions lead to the degradation of the country.

    More specifically, what kind of actions can lead to the degradation of the country?
    1. bk0010 29 June 2020 00: 14 New
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      Of course you can: type in the search engine "the number of hospitals in Russia by years" (decreased to the level of the 50s), "the number of schools in Russia by years" (here the degradation is not so terrible, but constant), "Who owns retail chains in Russia "(there are no Russians, mainly the Netherlands)," The number of warheads in Russia by years "(2000 - about 6000, now 1550). And so do not look - everywhere is bad.
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        Quote: bk0010
        type in the search engine "the number of hospitals in Russia by year" (reduced to the level of the 50s
        And what does it mean?
        Optimization is not always bad, the number of hospitals does not always mean the number of doctors and even the quality of honey. services.
        As an example, I underwent an operation, which in 1980 they undertook to do in three medical institutions of the USSR (they did it in Novosibirsk), and now it is being done in the not the largest regional one. According to the quota.
        In the year I almost glued the fins - I needed urgent help, but if it weren’t for my aunt-doctor, I would have died 99% (this is about the quality of medicine). A good doctor should have been sought by friends. Like now. But now the technique also helps.
        Yes, and another problem with your calculation: they used to stay in hospitals much longer, sometimes at times.
        And I can throw an idea: count the number of leper colony in the 70s today.

        Quote: bk0010
        "The number of warheads in Russia by years" (2000 - about 6000, now 1550)
        The United States, to start a civilian, enough is also 20. Next - the energy collapse and ...
        1. bk0010 30 June 2020 00: 02 New
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          Quote: Simargl
          As an example, I underwent an operation, which in 1980 they undertook to do in three medical institutions of the USSR (they did it in Novosibirsk), and now it is being done in the not the largest regional one. According to the quota.
          Damn, well, 40 years have passed, what's so surprising?
          Tell me, how can a cool medical center in Moscow help you if you are in a village in the non-Chernozem region and you have a phlegmon? But the simplest medical assistant would help. And giving birth to a woman who did not need to drag herself to the regional center would also help. And so for 90% of cases (except for really complex ones). Under the word "optimization", Russian officials mean the process of taking money from the people for themselves. Let them save on themselves. And to stimulate the process, make them be treated where they work. In Moscow and over the hill, do not let them, nor their families. Health care has collapsed - let them die with the people.
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            Damn, well, 40 years have passed, what's so surprising?
            I would also recall the backwardness of the hardware, but let's not talk about that. But over 40 years it didn’t get any worse. With that, at least ...

            Quote: bk0010
            if you are in a village in the non-chernozem region, and you have a phlegmon? But the simplest medical assistant would help.
            Do you yourself understand what you are writing? That's just the paramedics in the villages and put. Now they are trying to simplify all small-town medicine: emergency care, common sores, and something at least somehow complicated - consultation with a specialist or a district center. It is right.
            Well, tell me: they’ll put a tomograph in the village, what will it do there? But depreciation is on, the specialist must pay a salary.

            Quote: bk0010
            And giving birth to a woman who did not need to drag herself to the regional center would also help.
            Suppose birth with complications. Will the paramedic help? Not. But to ruin two lives - completely. Especially without equipment. See the statistics on child mortality. In addition, now pregnancy is very tight.

            Quote: bk0010
            Under the word "optimization", Russian officials mean the process of taking money from the people for themselves.
            You just do not understand what is being done. Well: there is a hospital, not yet optimized, in a large village. Come there with a complex abscess, fracture, peritonitis, pregnancy (you didn’t bring your wife) ... what will they do if they appear in this hospital twice a year? Anointed with green stuff? Or iodine? And in the "optimized" specialist, you will be the third for today, in the morning. And in the optimized you will be ill for 3 days, and in the non-optimized one you can give the oak, if you do not guess in the optimized send.
            Another thing - for the sake of show, this is done archly! But the number of doctors, so far, is one of the largest per capita ...

            Quote: bk0010
            And to stimulate the process, make them be treated where they work.
            What's the point? The equipment in top clinics is now no worse than a foreign one, anyone can be prescribed a doctor.

            Quote: bk0010
            Health care has collapsed - let them die with the people.
            If you do not understand, the elite are those who have access to benefits better than the people. And even 40 ... 50 ... 70 years ago it was the same. Well ... Dog’s heart, review. Everything there that does not apply to Sharikov is more interesting (or didn’t you guess?).
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    his actions lead to the degradation of the country
    At the beginning of 2000 was the country so developed, and then degraded? Didn’t get drunk in the 90s, or something, nostalgia lifted you up ...
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    And here I am not of your opinion, and exactly the same people as you are, and I am in favor of the amendment. And I will be removed to vote and my family will be. Since I do not have the opportunity to vote not remotely.

    What is it? Of those patriots who live abroad?
  • Revival 28 June 2020 14: 15 New
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    That is, the norms are that the miller has millions per day, and even with the complete losses of Gazprom, and the middle class is 17000 rubles.?
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      That is, the norms are that the miller has millions per day, and even with the complete losses of Gazprom, and the middle class is 17000 rubles.?
      Not okay.
      The question then begs another: who will do it differently? Are there any candidates?
      Name at least one amendment that guarantees that it will be better if you are FOR.
      If you are opposed, but do not go, why don't you at least neutralize someone's FOR vote?
      1. Revival 28 June 2020 18: 38 New
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        I'm not for it, I'll go, this is my personal opinion
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          I will go,
          To those who are FOR and CONS: we have a very different country before 2000 and after 2000 with the same Constitution. Maybe we should use what we have? And if you change, then much better. Start with the constitutional assembly, at least ...
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            To those who are FOR and CONS: we have a very different country before 2000 and after 2000 with the same Constitution. Maybe we should use what we have? And if you change, then much better. Start with the constitutional assembly, at least ...

            In my opinion, there isn’t such a big difference between the positions not to go and vote against. The supporters of both positions have very weighty arguments.
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              In my opinion, there isn’t such a big difference between the positions not to go and vote against.
              Not. There is a position - you have to go.
              Otherwise, you vote for the opposite opinion.
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              The supporters of both positions have very weighty arguments.
              This is math. The simplest. But not everyone understands.
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      Gazprom has a net worth of almost 13 trillion rubles - what kind of loss do you have to write crap.
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    So far, only you and your kind are rude here ... wink
  • Clear 28 June 2020 12: 52 New
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    Quote: Malyuta
    Quote: Dart2027

    That is, in Paradise.

    But without Putin wassat

    Why the word Пlowercase letter u Мcapital with capital? Is this a deliberate violation?
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      Why would Malyuta immediately take Mazepa to himself? Yes, and more suitable.
      1. depressant 28 June 2020 13: 15 New
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        So who will finally explain to me why the hot topics published on VO appear on my phone after a few hours?!?
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          They can’t reach you ....)))
    2. aleksejkabanets 28 June 2020 20: 20 New
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      Quote: Clear
      And why the word Putin with a lowercase letter, and Malyuta with a capital? Is this a deliberate violation?

      I believe that this is a matter of respect or not respect for this character. I’m writing the same words Abromovich, Deripaska, Rotenberg with a small letter.
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      then intentional violation?

      Nothing out of the ordinary - this infantile organism thus tries to assert itself in its own eyes, yeah. From the side, nothing but disgust does not cause. yes hi
  • Dart2027 28 June 2020 14: 26 New
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    Quote: Malyuta
    But without Putin

    Putin is man, and Paradise is God's estate.
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      Quote: Dart2027
      Quote: Malyuta
      But without Putin
      Putin is man, and Paradise is God's estate.
      If this is a basic requirement, then God may not have problems with sending the newly-deceased to otherworldly service to different units: they say that hell is taken to Hell only by His order.
      1. Dart2027 29 June 2020 19: 28 New
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        If this is a basic requirement

        These are the realities of life. I don’t know what in the afterlife, but in ours there will always be injustice and inequality, etc.
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  • RESEARCHER 28 June 2020 18: 26 New
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    Here one demand more insistently sounds - without Putin.
    Well, if only this, then it looks like paranoia.
    But isn’t it easier to get rid of Internet addiction and do something useful for oneself.
  • paul3390 28 June 2020 12: 05 New
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    Not. IN THE USSR.
    1. Dart2027 28 June 2020 14: 27 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      Not. IN THE USSR.

      I happened to find the USSR and I don’t remember something universal equality and happiness.
      1. ccsr 28 June 2020 15: 49 New
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        I happened to find the USSR and I don’t remember something universal equality and happiness.

        But socialism could not guarantee you this; you apparently poorly studied Marxist-Leninist philosophy. However, now with our wild capitalism you have truly become happy - I congratulate you on the fulfillment of your dream. So smile more often, proving to everyone that life was a success, and all the remaining 95% of Russian citizens will be happy for you.
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          But socialism could not guarantee you this; you apparently poorly studied Marxist-Leninist philosophy.

          Then why the hell do you need it?
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            Quote: Dart2027
            Then why the hell do you need it?

            But what for did you need a slave system or a feudal system? Maybe it’s better to immediately turn from the primitive communal system into wild capitalism - how do you imagine all this with your advanced worldview?
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              Quote: ccsr
              how do you imagine all this with your advanced worldview

              Well then, why?
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                Quote: Dart2027
                Well then, why?

                This is a dialectic of development - study Marxism, everything is spelled out there, and socialism is only an intermediate link to your dream.
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                  and socialism is only an intermediate link to your dream

                  Mine? Rather yours. That's just because communism does not shine for humanity; all this is a beautiful fairy tale.
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                  Quote: Dart2027
                  That's just because communism does not shine for humanity; all this is a beautiful fairy tale.

                  Mankind has not yet matured to the understanding that it can disappear if it does not change its model of behavior. So perhaps humanity will change its mind when it comes to the edge of the abyss, although this is hard to believe.
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Mine? Rather yours.
                  Isn't that what you wrote:
                  and no universal equality and happiness I don’t remember something.
                3. Dart2027 28 June 2020 21: 15 New
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                  Mankind has not yet matured to the understanding that it can disappear if it does not change its model of behavior.

                  The problem is that the point is not in understanding, but in biology. People are a biological species and it has a whole set of traits that affect its moral character. Yes, you can find a variety of people, both "bad" and "good", but humanity as a whole does not change.
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Isn’t you writing

                  Wrote in response to a wish:
                  "I want to live in a fair and prosperous country where there are no poor"
                  Socialism does not.
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                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Yes, you can find a variety of people, both "bad" and "good", but humanity as a whole does not change.

                  The absolutely incorrect conclusion is that you are no different from those who lived in the cave? Even the average growth has changed, and you say that the whole thing is “bad” and “good”.
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  "I want to live in a fair and prosperous country where there are no poor"
                  Socialism does not.

                  Gives, and it is socialism, where in Soviet times, almost all the country's population was provided with everything necessary. At least I don’t remember exactly that number of homeless people and digging in garbage cans.
                5. Dart2027 29 June 2020 19: 27 New
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                  Quote: ccsr
                  Even the average growth has changed, and you say that the whole thing is “bad” and “good”.

                  If we take those who lived in caves and feed as they do now, then their children will also change their growth.
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Gives, and it is socialism, where in Soviet times, almost all the country's population was provided with everything necessary.

                  The minimum necessary and now almost everyone.
      2. Revival 28 June 2020 18: 42 New
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        At least then that the inequalities there are an order of magnitude smaller
        1. Dart2027 28 June 2020 18: 45 New
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          Quote: Revival
          inequalities there are an order of magnitude smaller

          Because everything else was less.
        2. Revival 28 June 2020 18: 53 New
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          It’s better to have no yachts and palaces at all than on a yacht, and because of this, someone cannot feed their fill.
          There is no pride of the country for someone to have a yacht, but there is a shame for a country where a working person cannot feed their children to the fullest
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          and because of this, children cannot feed their fill

          Because of this or because of yourself?
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          It’s better to have no yachts and palaces at all than on a yacht, and because of this, someone cannot feed their fill.
          Do your children swell with hunger, and here you breed "alal"? Would you rather go to hh.ru, there you would find a job, feed the kids ... Or are you well fed here?
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          I do not have.
          But, unlike you, I think about others ...
          While
  • Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 41 New
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    They wanted to experiment to create a utopian society - but the experiment failed with blood with the same blood with which it started, although the scale was smaller.
  • Fitter65 28 June 2020 11: 40 New
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    Friends, let's clearly determine without political addictions, what has the government done over the past 20 years, who has governed the country all these years

    Comrade, you need to take a little wider. And the question is longer. What did the authorities do from 1991 to 2000, and what could they correct from the tricked out thing from 2000 to 2020?
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      And the question is longer. What did the authorities do from 1991 to 2000, and what could they correct from the tricked out thing from 2000 to 2020?

      One and the same team did all this, and this period is called ebnoputinism!
      Quote: Fitter65
      you need to take a little wider. And the question is longer.

      Wider and longer than the oligarchs' yachts, 65 lards for the pandemic period, so you have to manage so.
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Wider and longer than the oligarchs' yachts, 65 lards for the pandemic period, so you have to manage so.
        Now we agree that I.V. Stalin walked in the right direction, and was 1937 necessary? And all who had relatives abroad in leadership positions could not occupy. And now we have only the holders of a Mongolian passport and African countries in our power. What to blame, in 1991 they got all the democratic values, the main value of which is the name - DISAPPOINTMENT !!!! And these values ​​were enshrined in our 1993 constitution. And at least someone read that we were guaranteed by the 1924 Constitution? And what did the 1936 Constitution guarantee us? According to which we lived until 1977, I remember the discussion of the "Brezhnev" constitution in the central newspapers, where every day they wrote about what the workers were offering, and they read article 4 about the leading and guiding role of the party. But who was discussing the 1993 constitution? Except for Borkin’s curators? But these oligarch officialsfatten thanks to this basic law ...
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          Now we agree that I.V. Stalin walked in the right direction, and was 1937 necessary?

          In this regard, the cause of the industrial party is very revealing in 1930. And in 1937 there were many excesses.
      2. Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 54 New
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        They earned these 65 billion dollars on the stock exchange from the rise and fall of blue-chip oil and other things - there trillions of dollars spin from around the world.
        1. Varyag71 29 June 2020 11: 32 New
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          How does it turn away from such lackeys, like you. Ready to justify everything.
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            And it turns me on from all squealers and whiners and sellers of every leftist.
    2. AU Ivanov. 28 June 2020 16: 03 New
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      The national debt was reduced. GDP increased. State reserves have grown almost 50 times. The army was restored. And yes - they began to build roads. Are you few?
      1. Revival 28 June 2020 18: 47 New
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        State reserves for the elite are not cold not hot.
        "The people will crack the budget to help" that's all the "state reserves".
        1. AU Ivanov. 28 June 2020 20: 27 New
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          And the ruble we just hold on? Or dollar interventions from the state reserve? Who are our favorites? Not employers providing hundreds of thousands of jobs?
        2. Vadim237 28 June 2020 20: 56 New
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          But no matter how you do it, the same social group will help 7 trillion every year, along with benefits and pension subsidies next year, another 990 billion will be added to the PFR.
          1. Revival 28 June 2020 21: 28 New
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            I mean help?
            At least poorly at a minimum allocate money for what should allocate?
            And here the word help, if it is an obligation
      2. Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 37 New
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        Why are the people getting poorer?
  • Alien ... 28 June 2020 11: 50 New
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    You’re not looking there. Ask Aeroflot:
    "The media learned about luxury flights of Aeroflot abroad, despite the quarantine.
    The airline continued to carry passengers in June to Europedespite the international air traffic shut down due to a coronavirus pandemic, Vedomosti reported. It was possible to fly away, in particular, to New York, Paris and London. "


    Read more at RBC:
    https://www.rbc.ru/business/25/06/2020/5ef423799a7947830e1560a4

    "in Frankfurt, Paris, London, New York, Seoul and Tel Aviv.
    ... a weekly flight to Nice and two to Barcelona, ​​two flights to Rome also appeared last week. "
  • Ross xnumx 28 June 2020 12: 05 New
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    Quote: Malyuta
    first took away the pension. accumulation, and then still increased pension age, etc. You can continue for a long time ...

    Not so simple. There is still a moratorium on indexing pensions for working retirees ... There are also:
    Since 2012, the so-called decreasing coefficient has been introduced to calculate military pensions for military pensioners and persons equated to them, “thanks to which” military pensioners have ceased to receive the full amount of military pension.

    yes
  • lopvlad 28 June 2020 12: 07 New
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    Quote: Malyuta
    I want to live in a fair and prosperous country, where there are no poor, where there is a secured old age, where young people have prospects.


    the poor are in any country, but the poor and homeless were not in the USSR, unlike the Western countries. Showing and telling about the Western well-being, the citizens of the USSR forgot to explain that not everyone can afford it in the West. What’s the worst is not the turn and the trip "free "an electric train to a big city for chocolates and doctor's sausage, and the fact that in your pocket money is only for paying a communal apartment and other capitalist extras for a month. So, having received vacation pay, most Russians can not afford to go to resorts, unlike USSR citizens.

    The funny thing is that what you want has never been and never will be realized in any capitalist country, but most of all the USSR has come closer to your "Wishlist".
    1. AU Ivanov. 28 June 2020 16: 10 New
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      There were homeless people in the USSR, they were. True, they were exiled from the cities beyond the 101st kilometer or imprisoned under article 209. And about the "free" trains, you turned down; there were none in the scoop. From Kalinin to Moscow for a sausage, a ride cost 2 rubles 5 kopecks, almost like a kilo of this very sausage the fare was
    2. Simargl 28 June 2020 18: 39 New
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      Quote: lopvlad
      here the beggars and homeless people were not in the USSR, unlike the western countries
      Oh how! Right?
      And in what period of time did they disappear? The same homeless children - did everyone live by registration directly?
      For parasitism - an article, without registration - no official work ... "pitchfork".
      Quote: lopvlad
      Showing and telling about Western well-being, citizens of the USSR forgot to explain that not everyone can afford it in the West
      It’s even funnier: people from abroad dragged goods that were far ahead of the “shovel” consumer goods in quality, from that it seemed to people that everything was “chocolate” behind the hill (one of the reasons).
      Quote: lopvlad
      The fact that, having received vacation pay, the majority of Russians cannot afford to go to the resorts in them, unlike the citizens of the USSR.
      I know those who every year on the World Cup chased the coast, and who could never afford it. It was different.
      Now it’s worse, but very many can afford a few days. For example, I spent 20 thousand rubles for 10 days, and 200 thousand rubles per month (+ road, but I’m far away, for two).
      As then, and now, most of the World Cups have not seen, but then much more was available!
      Now for two salaries you can fly abroad for 10 days, and then? How many minimum salaries were needed for a similar rest at the World Cup?
  • Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 17 New
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    Now, unfortunately, I don’t see anything of this!

    Poor thing. The garbage can, in which he was digging, was crushed?
    Rate your property at American prices. Just do not compare the plywood-foam hut, covered with beautiful paper, and a stone house with a stone house, the land of a summer house at the price of the land of a suburb of New York.
    1. tracer 28 June 2020 12: 52 New
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      Have you ever been under this New York at least once? Did you see everything yourself? Watched the prices? And the new town houses on the water across the Hudson Bay? Is it a stone house in America? A specialist in the Americas ..
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 13: 00 New
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        Foam plywood? Without heating? Yes, even if they are at least 200 square meters in gilded paper and a synthetic winter bow on top - it’s the hut.
        And a stone house, on a plot of 10 acres, within the city, with gas, water and optical Internet - will Sykoko pull in the USA? 20 million in dollars?
        1. tracer 28 June 2020 13: 20 New
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          And why are you attached to the dollar? Do you get a salary in dollars? Taxes too? It depends on which city and area. But good houses in good areas are very expensive like everywhere else.
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 16: 11 New
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            Quote: tracer
            Do you get a salary in dollars? Taxes too?

            And in what currency do you measure our poverty. Smelt in the mounds?
            As far as I understand, $ 1000 sounds to you like news from aliens. So alien that the news that the Japanese homeless pays $ 0,8 x 3 m 1000 dollars per month for a closet testifies to the unprecedented luxury that the Japanese homeless can afford. Although in Russia $ 1000 a month is the rent for a six-room two-level apartment.
            1. tracer 28 June 2020 16: 46 New
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              I am well off by overseas standards, and only then yours all the more. But this is the product of my efforts and work with study.
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                Quote: tracer
                I am well off by overseas standards, and only then yours all the more.

                Is it rutabaga or something? So it is not accessible to everyone in Russia.
                Quote: tracer
                But this is the product of my efforts and work with study.

                Studying at the ballet academy, which is in St. Petersburg, or working as a whistle at VO?
  • Gardamir 28 June 2020 16: 27 New
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    For example, I remember
    I add, despite the fact that the people declared patriotism of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation continues to be invested in American securities. Well, do not invest in building schools
    1. Vadim237 28 June 2020 21: 08 New
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      And how many of these investments there are in US US securities - 6,5 billion compared with investments of China and Japan over 1 trillion dollars, our investments are generally nothing. And in Russia every day they put into operation a dozen kindergartens and schools, new and renovated, and yes the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not deal with them - not in their jurisdiction.
  • Clear 28 June 2020 11: 04 New
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    A handful of countries use the lion's share of these resources.
    There’s not even a bunch no . It turns out that the U.S. population is five percent the world's population, and they use 40% of Earth’s resources.
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    2. WIKI 28 June 2020 18: 29 New
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      "According to UN estimates, the material consumption of Russia's GDP is 40% higher than the world average, 4,2-4,5 times higher than
      in the USA and Germany, 7,6 times higher
      than in Japan, but 3 times lower than
      in China."
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        Quote: WIKI
        "According to UN estimates, the material consumption of Russia's GDP is 40% higher than the world average, 4,2-4,5 times higher than
        in the USA and Germany, 7,6 times higher
        than in Japan, but 3 times lower than
        in China."

        Victor, can I refer to the UN materials?
        A scientific article by A. Bashmakov, two years ago, I have already watched.
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        2. WIKI 28 June 2020 19: 38 New
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          Do you think something has changed in two years? What do you mean by “use 40% of the Earth’s resources”? For example, ExxonMobil has a stake in 21 refineries in 14 countries with a total capacity of 4,7 million barrels per day. Five of them are located in the USA (2 in Texas, one each in Illinois, Louisiana and Montana), 3 in Canada, 8 in Europe (2 in France, as well as in Belgium, Great Britain, the Netherlands, Italy, Norway and Germany), 5 in Asia (Singapore, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, Australia and China). They produce, yes. But it is unlikely that all products are consumed within the United States. This is for 2016:
      2. SVD68 28 June 2020 20: 30 New
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        Quote: WIKI
        material consumption of Russia's GDP is 40% higher than the world average, 4,2-4,5 times higher than
        in the USA and Germany, 7,6 times higher

        Here we must look at the structure of GDP. For example, banking and lawyer services or copyrights are much less material-intensive than the production of goods or capital construction.
    3. zenion 29 June 2020 13: 13 New
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      The Americans do not have the constitutional right of the wedding night for the president, but in the Russian constitution, as amended, they will!
  • Finches 28 June 2020 11: 04 New
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    Dear Colleagues! I must admit that I, in violation of my principles, did not go to the polls, but this is not an election either. Subjected his previously expressed thoughts to criticism and rethinking (not particularly strongly) - he went down voted for amendments to the Constitution! There are sensible and stupid corrections in my opinion, but I decided to be consistent in one thing - let the GDP rule more - I like the way the liberals are guilty, the Anglo-Saxons are guilty abroad ... Let the country governs the country better than what we get to -Never be a new democratically minded creative comrade up to the flag of the LGBT community under the state banner on the dome of the Grand Kremlin Palace!

    P.S. However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ... laughing
    1. Malyuta 28 June 2020 11: 18 New
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      Quote: Finches
      However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ...

      And they forced her to be a wife, patamushta, she is a state employee and bring household members with her.
      Quote: Finches
      let the GDP still rule - I like the way that our liberals are contorted, how the Anglo-Saxons are controversial abroad ... It’s better that the GDP governs the country than we get to with some new democratically minded creative comrade

      With such shabby theses, you need to give up your pension and go to work on litter-tv, they pay well and feed well. hi
      1. Finches 28 June 2020 11: 22 New
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        Somehow, without your "wise" advice, I’ll figure out where I need to go! I am very saddened by the fact that my positive assessment of Putin’s activities as a Russian state and my desire not to change him - because it is not necessary from the word at all, you don’t like it! Excuse me!
        And I get a pension not because of the pros or cons, but becauseI served the captain’s stars in full! Ati-bats! " hi
        1. New Year day 28 June 2020 11: 51 New
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          Quote: Finches
          that my positive assessment of Putin’s activities as a Russian state and my desire not to change him

          question! Next year he will not be, what will you do? Entrust your fate to the winds of surprise?
          1. lopvlad 28 June 2020 12: 51 New
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            Quote: Silvestr
            Next year he will not be, what will you do?


            what will you do? will you blaspheme and stigmatize?
            1. Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 44 New
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              We will stigmatize the other, if there is any reason.
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            Quote: Silvestr
            question! Next year he will not be, what will you do?

            Indeed, the question is interesting. If the mighty Shogun is taken away by the spirits of their ancestors, then what will the samurai do? Will they use the Bushido code or become ronin ..?
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              Quote: serpent
              If the mighty Shogun is taken away by the spirits of their ancestors, then what will the samurai do


              need not worry about the samurai and the enemies and opponents of the Shogun. Remember the power of the United States in the late 80s and early 90s and compare their modern power?. When there is no enemy, the remaining army becomes drunk and degrades into dust.
      2. carstorm 11 28 June 2020 11: 32 New
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        are you fundamentally going to be rude to everyone who disagrees with you or is it just such an upbringing?
      3. Wow! This I understand - the poverty of the spirit in all its glory! And the abomination of desolation (c) ... thoughts.
    2. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 11: 21 New
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      Eugene hi my respect is a colleague! Well, you know forever, or almost always I agree with you, but not this time. I’m not sure that the Anglo-Saxons are so contorted by Putin, they are more likely to show us that and we really want to. But, in my opinion, the Anglo-Saxons drink blood and resources from Russia so well. If you look at who, by Russia, is the owner of Rosneft, Gazprom and others? And there is Shell and some sort of Tempikopetroleum and many others. Hence the question, so whose all the same is Gazprom’s public heritage, what kind of people? Is it really Russian?
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        hi Alexei! You see what the matter is - I wrote many times and am absolutely sure that changing the GDP for at least anyone, even for Jesus Christ will not lead to anything - that’s the thing! These are silly illusions ... I believe that the best is the enemy of the good! That's all! This is my life experience and understanding of the situation. Rearrangement of chairs in the office does not solve anything ...!
        1. Varyag_0711 28 June 2020 11: 34 New
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          And here it is completely in solidarity! I am a man who lived both in the USSR and in the Russian Federation, I understand perfectly well that changing Putin to anyone with the existing system will not lead to anything good. Putin is just an embodiment of the existing world order of the Russian Federation. So he is not the worst option. Another thing is that the top of the USSR rotted in 70 years, and the top of the Russian Federation was born already rotten. However, the rotten top of the USSR, this is the current top of the Russian Federation. That is sad!
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            That's right!
        2. Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 36 New
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          I have written many times and am absolutely sure that changing the GDP for at least anyone, at least for Jesus Christ, will not lead to anything

          You are mistaken. The psyche of the leader is a very important component of the country's prosperity. This is the USSR Gorbachev, and Russia of the 90s, and Zimbabwe, and the Baltic states. Now here is the USA. Changing the leader to a dull, stubborn promoter of his ideas often leads to the collapse of the economy.
          So let Putin be. Which has nothing to prove in this life. In Haiti, he became a god, after an earthquake, his photos were prayed for the salvation of his family, in Germany, banners were hung in front of the Bundestag - “Putin, save Germany!”, In Syria, Assad soldiers glued his pictures to machine guns. Evo's influence on the world is enormous. The Times even ruled him out of the Man of the Year rating for many years. The man of the year is now only taking the second on the cover. fellow
          1. Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 12: 57 New
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            Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
            in Germany, banners were hung in front of the Bundestag - “Putin, save Germany!”, in Syria, his photos are pasted by Assad soldiers on machine guns. Evo's influence on the world is enormous.

            And what about us evo fans there?
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              Go to Syria there clearly explain to you. I’m afraid after that you will fill the tatuha with his portrait.
              1. Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 13: 27 New
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                Quote: tracer
                Go to Syria there clearly explain to you. I’m afraid after that you will fill the tatuha with his portrait.

                I guess it doesn’t threaten me.
                Have you had any experience?)
                "And on his left chest is Putin’s profile,
                And on the right ... "

                And what, by the way, on the right? Assad or Olga Buzova?
                ))
                1. tracer 28 June 2020 14: 26 New
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                  Helicopter parachute and brigade. Got it? So under the bench ... yap.
                  1. Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 14: 37 New
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                    Quote: tracer
                    So under the bench ... yap.

                    Well, well, let's go without foam. The question was rhetorical. I, in fact, do not care what you painted your epidermis there.
                    1. Varyag71 29 June 2020 12: 29 New
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                      Yes, and he did not pass the service. it looks like he outplayed the call of duty.
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                      Yes, and he did not pass the service.

                      This character is still a fighter ... The most is not a real bread-sniper.
          2. Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 15: 42 New
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            Quote: Dr. Frankenstucker
            But what about evo fans there?

            Well, as Bee hints - filler for torture - believes Putin will protect. The executioners are furious with Putin because of the restriction of their rights.
            Once. from a year ago, I mentioned Guantanamo. The opponent replied: Well, I was in Guantanamo, and so what?
            Tea, French Samopal, also visited the torture chamber? With the most pleasant memories? In Europe, in bulk. Some are pierced, released alive. For which the ECHR ruthlessly fines.
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              Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
              Well, I was in Guantanamo, so what?

              as whom?
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                Well, obviously not the one who is dipped in the bucket with urine. Otherwise, I would not have boasted ...
        3. Oleg Skvortsov 28 June 2020 13: 55 New
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          Sarcasmies. just say - I'm a Putinist, let him rule forever (again, there is enough room for two in the mausoleum), I collect postcards and newspaper clippings with his profile. laughing
          1. Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 15: 59 New
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            Quote: Oleg Skvortsov
            just say - I'm a Putinist,

            Well, you can say about you that you are a morphist. More precisely, the militant of the Irish mafia, for persecute the interests of the Iranian-American mafia in Russia. The same mafia, which appoints from among its own the vice-chairmen of the USA - small farmers, actors, drunkards - controlling the Democratic Republican Party.
            Just imagine, from the day the US was founded, relatives became presidents. To Kennedy - Anglo-Saxon roots. From Johnson to Obama - Irish.
            And my beliefs - I always vote for the most impassable candidate. Bryntsalov there, Belykh. Remember those?
    3. lopvlad 28 June 2020 12: 55 New
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      Quote: Varyag_0711
      If you look at who, by Russia, is the owner of Rosneft, Gazprom and others? And there is Shell and some sort of Tempikopetroleum and many others.


      Do you naively believe and believe that if you have a few percent, for example, Intel shares, then you are its owner?
  • Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 11: 22 New
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    P.S. However, I will not particularly dissemble - my wife made me go to vote ..

    Bravo! The henpecked Putriot is the pillar of the new Russia! laughing
    1. Finches 28 June 2020 11: 26 New
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      Such is the bum! Or, as they say, life dictates to us its harsh laws ... laughing
      1. Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 11: 29 New
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        Life does not dictate a damn thing - it only offers circumstances.
        1. Finches 28 June 2020 11: 32 New
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          This is the phrase of Ostap Bender from "12 Chairs" ... laughing hi
    2. Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 38 New
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      Quote: Dr. Frankenstucker
      Bravo! The henpecked Putriot is a pillar of the new Russia

      Well, "Biden Slave" - ​​sounds proudly to you !!!
      1. tracer 28 June 2020 13: 09 New
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        "Well, admire Klim Chugunkin." "And there is nothing to believe." This is right about him. Everyone knows the author of the quotes. Although this “Abyrvalg" may not know.
    3. snake 28 June 2020 13: 46 New
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      Bravo! The henpecked Putriot is the pillar of the new Russia!

      A real man, cho already there ... But not some LGBT!
  • tatra 28 June 2020 11: 23 New
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    Herein lies the essence of the enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR — you are ready to be FOR anyone and anything, in order to be AGAINST something or someone. And this hysteria about the amendments was not so much FOR them as AGAINST those who are against the amendments.
    1. Finches 28 June 2020 11: 27 New
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      Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik! But you still don’t understand this ... laughing
      1. tatra 28 June 2020 11: 29 New
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        Ha, well then explain - what are the Bolsheviks and the Communists radically different from?
        1. Finches 28 June 2020 11: 40 New
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          There is such a joke - The Bolsheviks — those who saw Ilyich alive, and the Communists — those who saw him in the grave. This is a certain kind of metaphor in which the meaning of the differences between the modern Communists, who are not Communists at all, but opportunists, and the Bolsheviks, is clear! hi
          1. tatra 28 June 2020 11: 50 New
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            The real, convinced, Bolshevik communists and their supporters are those who for living in one big country, for Soviet power, socialism, a planned economy, and they never "saw the light", did not betray their party, the USSR and each other .
        2. Far B 28 June 2020 11: 40 New
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          Will not work. There are many who declare themselves Bolsheviks, not realizing that it was possible to be a Bolshevik at the beginning of the last century. Now you are either a communist or not (take a "leftist" to yourself)
        3. Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 12: 59 New
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          Quote: tatra
          How do the Bolsheviks radically differ from the Communists?


          laughing a question worthy of the Vasilyev brothers)
      2. Malyuta 28 June 2020 11: 43 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik!

        "Zaputinsky Bolshevik" is remarkably funny and we will assign this "honorary title" to you. laughing
        Threat. I am very sorry hi , but I can’t understand how love for Stalin and Putin can fit in the same person at the same time? belay
        Can you imagine a hypothetical situation that in November 2020 the Bolsheviks will come to power in the country and what will they do with Mr Putin?
        1. Finches 28 June 2020 11: 51 New
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          If the Bolsheviks come to power, then you and I will not leave the answer ... laughing
          And I respect Putin! Whether you like it or not, I am absolutely not interested in it, and I do not see any contradictions in respecting Stalin and respecting Putin .... I try, unlike you, to be objective in evaluating their actions as head of the state - and you don’t like Putin, because, apparently, it’s so fashionable, because there are no other objective reasons! hi
        2. Parabelum 28 June 2020 14: 12 New
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          "Who are "we? Speak for yourself. Or did someone empower you to speak on behalf of the people? Like no one, speak on your own behalf.
      3. New Year day 28 June 2020 11: 52 New
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        Quote: Finches
        I’m not a communist, I’m a Bolshevik!

        some dissonance! The Bolshevik stands for the capitalist. Decide
        1. Finches 28 June 2020 15: 20 New
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          Where do I stand for capitalism ?? Or, do you think that if I am not for the renegade Zyuganov, the red oligarch Grudinin and the clown Platoshkin, then I mean I'm for capitalism? I always wrote here specifically, and today I emphasized once again that since today a change of political leadership in the Kremlin will not lead to a change in the political and economic formation in the country as a whole, I see no reason to change the head of state that suits me personally in everything! hi
          1. Fan-fan 28 June 2020 19: 53 New
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            How everything in your brain mixed up.
            1. Finches 28 June 2020 19: 58 New
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              This is my principled position due to life experience and the wealth of knowledge that exists ... as well as yours! So if you have something to say essentially, then write, and if not, then I don’t see the point in spending time on just phrases!
          2. New Year day 28 June 2020 22: 02 New
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            Quote: Finches
            Where do I stand for capitalism?

            you support the capitalist Putin, isn’t that enough?
            Quote: Finches
            since today the change of political leadership in the Kremlin will not lead to a change in the political and economic formation in the country as a whole

            the fact is that the change will happen anyway, although purely for physical reasons. And now the GDP is trying to preserve its inheritance. In any case, a new broom sweeps in a new way. Just what will these years cost you, me, our children?
      4. Ross xnumx 28 June 2020 12: 11 New
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        Quote: Finches
        Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik! But you still don’t understand this ...

        What are you saying? What a complicated nature you have! fellow
        You are not a Bolshevik. You are from the majority, as here:
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          Right! The Bolsheviks - this is the majority, but you are a Menshevik or a Trotskyist, and so and so will not lead to better lives, but to the next political and economic crisis!
      5. Oyo Sarkazmi 28 June 2020 12: 40 New
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        Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik!

        And I am an anarchist. But I really appreciate the comfort. Therefore, he went - and voted FOR.
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          I immediately remember about "..that will receive both war and shame."
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        You are not a Bolshevik. You are an ordinary petty-bourgeois layman. Apologist for capitalism.
        1. Finches 28 June 2020 15: 15 New
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          What I like is instant and categorical labeling! And he is in all white ... laughing
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            Well, I'm sorry if you croak like a petty bourgeoisie, you look like a petty bourgeoisie you behave like a petty bourgeoisie. That probably you are. By the way, you hung a label on yourself.
            1. Finches 28 June 2020 18: 13 New
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              And courtesy, just not your hobby .... laughing You will poke your wife, if you have it of course ...
              1. IS-80_RVGK2 28 June 2020 19: 38 New
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                Why am I supposed to be polite with such a short-sighted demagogue? To begin with, try a little less then and talk for politeness.
                1. Finches 28 June 2020 19: 45 New
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                  Good luck, distant and highly cultured IS-80_RVGK2! Before that, I did not write anything worthwhile and now it doesn’t really work out in the discussion, but do not despair - everything will happen for you - you will grow up! laughing hi
      7. aleksejkabanets 28 June 2020 20: 45 New
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        Personally, I am not a communist - I am a Bolshevik! But you still don’t understand this ...

        What do you mean by the word Bolshevik?
    2. Dr. Frankenstucker 28 June 2020 11: 47 New
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      Quote: tatra
      you are ready to be FOR anyone and anything, in order to be AGAINST something or someone. And this hysteria about the amendments was not so much FOR them as AGAINST those who are against the amendments.


      This is a masterpiece! What a phenomenal specimen of thought!
      1. tracer 28 June 2020 13: 14 New