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American journalist: Putin forgot to report in the article that the USA wrote off the main debt of the USSR under Lend-Lease

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After the release of an article by Vladimir Putin on World War II, Western journalists suddenly considered it their duty to immediately publish their own comments. At the same time, many position themselves almost as historians-specialists in the WWII field, although earlier for some reason historical the truth about the war, these people paid very little attention, if any. Among these “historian commentators” was Michael Bom, who was a frequent guest at Russian political talk show studios.


In his article on the pages of the Echo of Moscow site, Mr. Bom decided to tell readers that he saw inaccuracies and inconsistencies in the material of the Russian president.

So, Michael Bohm declares that Putin “forgot to tell the following”: the USA “wrote off the lion's share of Lend-Lease debt, the total amount of which amounted to about $ 11 billion.” According to Bohm, in Russia "the popular myth is still flourishing that the USSR completely paid with gold for deliveries on lend-lease."

Bom:

This, of course, is not true.

It is interesting why, in this case, the American journalist does not recall the gold that was exported to the United States during the formation of Soviet Russia, nor does it recall how much material assets the Russian army removed from Russia during the intervention in the Far East. Or would you still have to count?

Further, an American journalist, calling himself independent (at least that is how he is presented on the echo), indicates other "inaccuracies." For example, Bom comments on the words of Vladimir Putin that after the Nazi invasion of Poland, there were no other options for the USSR.

Bom:

How “no other options left” ?! After all, it was precisely this invasion and partition of Poland that was clearly agreed upon in the secret protocol of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which was signed only a week before Hitler attacked Poland.

However, Mr. Bom involuntarily or consciously ignores the important phrase spoken by Putin. The President of Russia noted that Russia has become virtually the only state that has opened the archives of the pre-war years. Until now, the countries that signed treaties (pacts) with Hitler in the 1930s (before the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact) did not open the materials. In this regard, it is likely that secret protocols to the "nonaggression pacts" are also available in the archives of Western countries.

As an example, the Polish invasion of the Tieszyn region. It is unlikely that Poland would have allowed itself such an invasion of Czechoslovakia without signing the relevant protocol and approval from Berlin. But the fact that Poland closed the passage to Soviet troops who intended to help Czechoslovakia to defend their independence is very well known. But only Mr. Bohm does not mention this.

American journalist: Putin forgot to report in the article that the USA wrote off the main debt of the USSR under Lend-Lease


At the same time, Bohm, as if trying to justify the collective West, claims that his (West) difference today is that he “condemned the Munich agreement”, and Russia continues to consider the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact an achievement of Soviet diplomacy.

An interesting interpretation: they "condemned" ... It was about a survival war, when the fate of the people, the fate of literally every person, was decided for the USSR. But then in Europe for some reason no one thought to condemn anything. And now, when decades have passed, to “condemn” is the same as to withdraw responsibility in hindsight. What the West and people like Mr. Bom are trying to do.
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  1. Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 26 June 2020 14: 05 New
    -4
    it's all tricks of nuland, she hired thousands of trolls to wreak havoc
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 26 June 2020 14: 20 New
      16
      count how surprised she was when she was told that most people there didn’t have to pay. enough money invested in YouTube videos
    2. Vend
      Vend 26 June 2020 14: 58 New
      58
      As far as I know, the USSR had to pay only for what survived after the war. In 1948, the United States put up a debt of 2,7 billion dollars. Naturally, the USSR did not agree with this amount. Negotiations were conducted until the collapse of the Union and Russia paid off the final amount of the debt on August 21, 2006 ..
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. NIKN
        NIKN 26 June 2020 15: 07 New
        35
        And in general, how debt payment relates to the WWII topic ... Well, it’s just that the topic is out of place, it was something else, and there was so much to mention, just the topic is not about that at all.
        And so you are right
        Negotiations were conducted until the collapse of the Union and Russia paid off the final amount of the debt on August 21, 2006 ..

        But who cares when you just need to spray your saliva into the GDP
      3. Olgovich
        Olgovich 26 June 2020 16: 46 New
        28
        Quote: Wend
        and on the final amount of debt Russia paid off on August 21, 2006 ..

        Not only here the Amer bastard lied, but here:
        : How are “no other options” ?! After all, this is exactly invasion and partition Poland was clearly agreed upon in the secret protocol of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which was signed just a week before Hitler attacked Poland.

        1. On the "invasion" in the protocol, NO WORD is either clear or fuzzy.
        2. The partition is not Poland, but SPHERE of influence,

        This city nida clearly advocated, therefore, for the FULL occupation of Poland by the Nazis, i.e. for residents of former eastern Poland FOR TWO YEARS more were under the Nazis, and hundreds of thousands of Jews from there, two years earlier hit the Auschwitz.

        And to remind this hypocritical goat: France and England took the position and actions of the USSR in this matter.
        Which is logical: wildly give something to the Nazis
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 26 June 2020 22: 54 New
          21
          Quote: Olgovich
          And to remind this hypocritical goat: France and England took the position and actions of the USSR in this matter.

          And it would be nice to ask Bohm for the American stew that the Fritz had been eating during the war in the trenches when they fought with the USSR. Mattresses entered the war only when they realized that Germany would lose, and therefore climbed in to share the glory of the winner, after which they pulled all the gold of Europe into their vaults in order to "protect" from the Communists. Rare hypocrites.
          1. uralant
            uralant 27 June 2020 07: 11 New
            +1
            Germany, say? So Germany still pays for its Lend-Lease. True, she hurts her eyes.
        2. tatarin1972
          tatarin1972 27 June 2020 06: 02 New
          +9
          The plan of attack on Poland was ready in April 1939, and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed on August 23, 1939, it does not fit in, Bohm interprets the topic as beneficial to him and others like him (West). Why be surprised, we have an information war with them.
      4. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 26 June 2020 16: 46 New
        -31
        According to Bohm, in Russia "the popular myth is still flourishing that the USSR completely paid with gold for deliveries on lend-lease."

        Of course a myth. The USA did not supply any lendlis. Delivered garbage equipment and other illiquid assets. So lies Bom.
        1. Astral02
          Astral02 26 June 2020 18: 05 New
          +1
          All the best was delivered to England. Even against the will of the United States.
          1. lucul
            lucul 26 June 2020 18: 16 New
            +8
            All the best was delivered to England. Even against the will of the United States.

            Indeed - did the British pay with Lend-Lease then? )))
            1. Alf
              Alf 26 June 2020 19: 07 New
              12
              Quote: lucul
              All the best was delivered to England. Even against the will of the United States.

              Indeed - did the British pay with Lend-Lease then? )))

              They paid. The fact that Britain has divided America to underpants. Who was the British Empire before the war and what became after?
              1. 933454818
                933454818 28 June 2020 13: 21 New
                +1
                So for that, the USA started this war. And Hitler was pumped up with money.
            2. l7yzo
              l7yzo 26 June 2020 19: 51 New
              +5
              War comes when it is necessary to remove the active and active part of society. So to say, knock down the gene pool of mankind. After all, it was noticed that noble smart and valiant go to war. Well, respectively, and coughs them up. And they remain in the rear, you know who you are.
              And with whom and when to start a war - this is the third question.
        2. Alf
          Alf 26 June 2020 19: 06 New
          +6
          Quote: AKuzenka
          Delivered garbage equipment and other illiquid assets.

          B-25 is illiquid? Then why did you use it yourself?
          A-20-illiquid? Then why did you use it yourself?
          Sherman illiquid? Then why did they ride the whole war on it themselves?
          Yes, and the Jeeps were junk, but the question is, why did you drive it yourself?
          1. AllBiBek
            AllBiBek 26 June 2020 22: 50 New
            +5
            Ask any American what Studebaker is, 95% if you give an answer, then it’s wrong. They do not know such a car brand, it is not at the hearing they have it. Neither the army nor the naval took these vehicles.
        3. Tues Seven-Charger
          Tues Seven-Charger 27 June 2020 20: 15 New
          +4
          Not really. Understand the topic. For some positions, they covered our needs up to 70%. For example, on rare earth metals up to 90 ++% Just look at the statistics.
      5. tech3030
        tech3030 26 June 2020 17: 23 New
        16
        It is interesting how much they would appreciate the lives of the Americans saved by the Soviet soldiers threshing the Nazis ?!
    3. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 26 June 2020 15: 48 New
      +5
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      these are all tricks of nuland

      Churchill came up with all this in the eighteenth year!
      1. Deck
        Deck 26 June 2020 16: 41 New
        -17
        The President of Russia noted that Russia has become virtually the only state that has opened the archives of the pre-war years.


        One hundred percent lies.
        1. Siberian54
          Siberian54 27 June 2020 14: 00 New
          +4
          Unfortunately there is no lie! There is an agreement, 1946, the countries of the victors do not publish the pre-war archives one hundred twenty-five years, these are our faithful Westerners-liberalists ahead of the planet choking on saliva in anticipation of thirty silver coins, violated this agreement.
    4. Sergey39
      Sergey39 26 June 2020 16: 42 New
      +7
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      it's all tricks of nuland, she hired thousands of trolls to wreak havoc

      Nuland herself is a hired troll. Somehow this lady does not pull on the role of the arbiters of the world.
    5. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 26 June 2020 22: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      it's all tricks of nuland, she hired thousands of trolls to wreak havoc
      Your comment sounds somewhat ambiguous. I still did not understand against whom, or in whose favor it is directed, since each individual word is understandable, and the general meaning is perceived as a banter with an incomprehensible recipient, you are for Bohm and Nuland (to say the West) against the position of Russia, or for Russia and against Bohm and Nuland (West)? Judging by the fact that you got 13 minuses, in the process I’m not alone among those who did not understand.
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 27 June 2020 10: 24 New
        +4
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        the general meaning is perceived as banter with an incomprehensible destination
        Everything is transparent here. This is a banter for those who believe or know that there is an information war in the network, in which there are bots, operators, staff work, etc. I would say this is a banter over common sense, for a la ger com a la ger.
  2. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 26 June 2020 14: 06 New
    19
    And is it worth discussing the statement of this mongrel?
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 26 June 2020 14: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And is it worth discussing the statement of this mongrel?

      Of course not! I’ve blabbed everything drunk laughing
    2. private person
      private person 26 June 2020 14: 53 New
      10
      And is it worth discussing the statement of this mongrel?

      We are discussing this here, while others believe in all these tales. If they didn’t believe, they wouldn’t be written in all kinds of mongrels.
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    3. Golovan
      Golovan 26 June 2020 15: 45 New
      +5
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And is it worth discussing the statement of this mongrel?

      I agree ! Before that, this topic was all discussed ... God bless them ungrateful moneylenders .. The only thing I would like to remind the USA is that they were in a deep crisis before the Second World War .. And after the war they suddenly became a world power with a powerful economy and army (which minimal losses in it) .. God is their judge and he is punishing the USA for pride now with pogroms, etc.
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 26 June 2020 16: 48 New
        +9
        They can still be reminded that Hitler’s economy rose through their efforts and an opportunity appeared to attack the USSR. So let them pay compensation to Russia for the restoration of the German economy and the provocation of World War II!
        1. Golovan
          Golovan 26 June 2020 18: 21 New
          +4
          Quote: AKuzenka
          They can still be reminded that Hitler’s economy rose through their efforts and an opportunity appeared to attack the USSR.

          It was the Anglo-Saxons who did everything to direct Hitler to Russia, trying to save their skins (after all, Nazism appeared in Germany after the defeat in the First World War, where Germany was literally brought to its knees and robbed godlessly ..
          Quote: AKuzenka
          So let them pay compensation to Russia for the restoration of the German economy and the provocation of World War II!

          Russia can make such claims that the Anglo-Saxons (USA and other Europe) will become at the level of an African country in the desert .. But alas!
          They will destroy themselves .. You just have to wait negative
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 27 June 2020 00: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: Golovan
        I would like to remind the United States that before the Second World War they were in a deep crisis .. And after the war they suddenly became a world power with ...

        Americans in the 1MB entered the red: at the end of Europe should have seemed 5 lard. After WW2, Europe was destroyed and owed amer 11lard money .. Nothing personal, only business ...
  3. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 26 June 2020 14: 08 New
    +4
    Stalin did not recognize any part of the debt. I don’t remember the details.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 26 June 2020 14: 39 New
      12
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Stalin did not recognize any part of the debt.

      Then went muddy with the restructuring of the debt, which was "scattered" on private companies, which thus became creditors. The fact is that the last tranche of these loans was paid in 2006. And the short-sleeved Bom (who, by the way, hangs around in Russia) has remained a close-knit ass, pushing the next nonsense over and over again.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 26 June 2020 14: 42 New
      20
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Stalin did not recognize any part of the debt. I don’t remember the details.
      According to my data I.V. Stalin did not think that the USSR should pay for the supply of weapons, because He believed that this was the contribution of the Allies to the common cause of victory over the fascist plague. Truman believed that we should pay for everything ... Yankees! - what to take from them !!! No shame, no conscience! And before the eyes of the dead - dimes ,,,,
      The main problem of the USSR was the payment Lend-Lease Debt. Although not all materials supplied by the United States to the Soviet Union under this program were subject to payment, but not used in hostilities and not able to be returned, The amount of debt, according to the United States, was $ 1,3 billion. The USSR believed that its debt was much less - 170 million. The negotiations of the government delegations of the two countries on this issue under Stalin and Truman were several times interrupted and resumed. In the end, the United States agreed to reduce the amount of debt to $ 800 million, but the USSR was ready to pay only 300 million, and then the negotiations were interrupted. Only in 1972, under Brezhnev and Nixon, was a final agreement reached, according to which the USSR was to pay $ 722 million in installments. The last Lend-Lease debt transaction was conducted by the Russian Federation in 2006. Taking into account the inflation index, the amount of debt paid by the USSR and Russia is estimated at 0,4% of the real value of Lend-Lease deliveries.

      https://finance.rambler.ru/markets/41501461/?utm_content.
      What we agreed on was paid! Therefore, let Mr. Blom go through the forest!
      AHA.
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 26 June 2020 14: 57 New
        +1
        As far as I heard, the last payments under the lease lease were either in the 60s or in the 80s. In general, they paid for a long time. But in general, yes. What we agreed on, then paid.
  4. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 26 June 2020 14: 10 New
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    At the same time, Bohm, as if trying to justify the collective West, claims that his (West) difference today is that he “condemned the Munich agreement”, and Russia continues to consider the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact an achievement of Soviet diplomacy.

    A conspiracy with Hitler must be condemned, and a nonaggression pact is not a conspiracy and is not condemned for anything.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 26 June 2020 14: 49 New
      10
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Conspiracy with Hitler must be condemned ...
      In 1939 - they definitely needed to be condemned ... But the bastards incited the possessed demon to the USSR! and thought that it was necessary ... with both hands!
      And in hindsight, it certainly turns out very much! but only in Blom’s assessment. I personally have not heard an official condemnation either from England or from France. Therefore, Bim-Bom - twists the soul and dodges like the last bastard! At the same time hang noodles on the ears of gullible aborigines! This is also in the tradition of arrogant Saxons ...
      But.
  5. Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 26 June 2020 14: 10 New
    14
    Russia (USSR) paid in full the lives of its soldiers and civilians.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 26 June 2020 14: 36 New
      +8
      Exactly. But here each is about his own, we are about the millions of our victims, and they are, as always, about money ... To whom is it more expensive.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 26 June 2020 17: 24 New
        +1
        Of course, this is so: only conscience, at least its beginnings, must also be had.
        On the other hand, during the post-war years, how many times our intelligence services reported on the appearance of almost annual plans for the Union’s nuclear bombing and we held on only due to the fact that we worked hard on the nuclear project.
        And it was our shock work, and precisely the creation of the atomic bomb as a weapon of retaliation, that prevented the American nuclear attack on the Union.
        And with its availability, it was possible to further agree on the terms of payments under Lend-Lease and, if possible, delaying the deadlines.
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 26 June 2020 17: 27 New
          +2
          Well, what kind of conscience are you talking about? They have been dreaming of destroying us all their lives.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 26 June 2020 17: 45 New
            +1
            Conscience for a person is an ethical concept, it may or may not be present - it all depends on upbringing.
            Conscience for the state is a political concept, therefore it must be obligated regardless of the sum of everything else.
            And if the United States does not have this concept from birth, and there was no one to educate it, and even once (they removed the scalps from the Indians!), Then the corresponding result and the respect are not worthy!
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 26 June 2020 21: 39 New
        +1
        From the US side there was no help, but pure commerce. Whatever words she was called. Each piece of iron and each jar of stew was valued in gold equivalent.
        Traders.
        They threw the lives of their soldiers into the fire only to share the fruits of victory, the division of Europe. How is it - nothing personal, just business?
        And if we take into account the powerful lending by American banks to Germany before the war, then the conclusion suggests itself - they did not care who won. Just the winner brings more profit.
  6. K-50
    K-50 26 June 2020 14: 13 New
    +6
    Pin dos is the only country on the planet to which the 1st World War, the 2nd World War went "to life", helped overcome economic crises, and served as an impetus for the conquest of the current situation in the world. Moreover, the price in human casualties was minimal.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 June 2020 15: 05 New
      +6
      Quote: K-50
      Pin dos is the only country on the planet to which the 1st World War, the 2nd World War went "to life", helped overcome economic crises, and served as an impetus for the conquest of the current situation in the world. Moreover, the price in human casualties was minimal.

      Why so? Sweden, Spain, Portugal and Argentina made very good money in both world wars.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 26 June 2020 23: 18 New
        +4
        They forgot about Switzerland, Aron. hi
        I wonder how much the United States would butt the Japanese in China without the participation of the USSR? With this participation, Stalin could write off all lenl-lease, because the Japanese did not attack us.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 26 June 2020 23: 31 New
          0
          Quote: Kasym
          They forgot about Switzerland, Aron. hi
          I wonder how much the United States would butt the Japanese in China without the participation of the USSR? With this participation, Stalin could write off all lenl-lease, because the Japanese did not attack us.

          They were not going to China at all. They planned a landing in Japan.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 27 June 2020 19: 52 New
            +1
            We did not intend to, because the USSR promised to do this.
            I do not believe that they wanted to land in Japan and deceived the hands of the Soviet Union. They are already in September 1944. planned to attack Japan with atomic weapons - this was discussed between Churchill and Roosevelt in London. Let me remind you that the Yalta Conference took place in February 1945, where the decision was made on the participation of the USSR in the war with the Japanese.
            Okinawa and Iwo Jima were before the USSR entered the war with Japan.hi
  7. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 26 June 2020 14: 15 New
    15
    let them talk about financial assistance to the Nazis before and after the start of the war, the main beneficiaries of this war were US corporations and banks, even after all empires successfully self-reset, bankers threw credit back to everyone
  8. sergo1914
    sergo1914 26 June 2020 14: 16 New
    23
    Damn, and the concept of a Lend-Lease program was poorly read to the American? Payment only surviving equipment. Here for the amount of ours butted. As a result, from Lard to 200 million, it seems, they reduced it. Everyone paid. The American, along the way, at birth just dropped out of his mother. Head on the concrete floor.
    PS 11 Lard - full supply. At the American expense.
    1. kind
      kind 26 June 2020 14: 32 New
      +5
      Damn, and the concept of a Lend-Lease program was poorly read to the American?

      That's it! I also wanted to write about this, you got ahead of me. The author of this opus is another hollow-blower who heard a ringing ... but he turned out to be a m ... ringing!
    2. Avior
      Avior 26 June 2020 16: 58 New
      -8
      Total supply value $ 11 billion
      Of these, according to the Lend Lisa concept, paying only for what they themselves wanted to leave, taking into account depreciation, had to be 2,6 billion in 1945 prices (there was no need to pay for property spent, destroyed or returned).
      Americans immediately knocked off half.
      But as a result, about 50 million dollars out of the required 50 billion were returned to the Americans after inflation in 2.6 years (that is, 11 million were actually returned from 50 billion).
      At 2006 prices, adjusted for inflation, total Lend Lease shipments totaled about $ 160 billion, 722 were returned.
      Interest on debt was not even calculated on inflation.
      Translated into Russian, nothing was returned, except for a purely symbolic amount.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 26 June 2020 18: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Avior
        Translated into Russian, nothing was returned, except for a purely symbolic amount.

        This is about how to buy goods in Soviet times, and pay for it with today's rubles 1: 1 by the amount of the check. smile
  9. Hagen
    Hagen 26 June 2020 14: 17 New
    +8
    So, Michael Bohm declares that Putin “forgot to tell the following”: the USA “wrote off the lion's share of Lend-Lease debt, the total amount of which amounted to about $ 11 billion”

    This is where all American ideology is concentrated. This clown warmed up on TV in Moscow did not bother to imagine how much time and soldier (and American) lives were saved by our Manchurian strategic offensive operation. Only for it, the United States should have written off and watered the entire "Lend-Lease" address to the USSR with "delicious drinks" laughing our whole group at the end of days. This is if the topic is approached in good faith. But instead of Bohm's conscience, in any case, something else has grown.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 26 June 2020 14: 30 New
      +6
      He saved lives are not interested. But the money - very much so. Americos!
  10. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 26 June 2020 14: 18 New
    +4
    And that Bombushka did not tell that the United States, for example, demanded the return of warships and boats, cars and armored vehicles transferred along Lend-Lease but survived the war. Moreover, the cars were taken according to the act and then were destroyed on the spot, the boats were drowned, unlike the others, they really forgave LL.
    The fact that the lion's share of Lend-Lease went no earlier than 1943, when the Soviet Union ALREADY turned the tide of the war.
    It would not hurt to talk about the oncoming Lend-Lease.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 26 June 2020 14: 31 New
      +3
      Who to tell? To the Americans? Will they agree to listen?
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 June 2020 15: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: Cyril G ...

      The fact that the lion's share of Lend-Lease went no earlier than 1943, when the Soviet Union ALREADY turned the tide of the war.
      It would not hurt to talk about the oncoming Lend-Lease.

      Actually, it could not be otherwise. The US at 41 had just begun to turn up military production. I'm not saying that their entry into the war in December 41 was also not very planned. Back in 1940, the entire US tank fleet consisted of 400 light tanks which were inferior in quality to the BT-5. So 42 years was a difficult one not only for us. The U.S. Army and Navy in the Pacific suffered defeat after defeat. They had to not only help us and Britain, but also to create their own armed forces that could operate on two remote fronts. I’m not talking about the logistics of all this. Imagine only the scope of shipbuilding necessary for the transfer of the army, its supply and supplies to the allies.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 26 June 2020 18: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Actually, it could not be otherwise. The US at 41 had just begun to turn up military production.

        Plus the problems of logistics. Papanin recalled how he raked the rubble on the Northern Route - when the next convoy met on the quays loads from the previous convoy.
        The southern route (Iran) was even worse - the Trans-Iranian corridor was broken only in 1943. Moreover, the British who undertook it initially filled up the work and were forced to transfer first the front of the work, and then the responsibility for the route to the Americans.
        The eastern route was limited by the capacity of the USSR cargo fleet for maintenance, the capabilities of ports and the Trans-Siberian Railway. Plus the Japanese.
    3. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 26 June 2020 15: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      cars and armored vehicles transmitted through Lend-Lease but survived the war

      I remember how Dad swore picking Studders to send to the states! And they demanded a complete set! And where to get all this - more than 10 years have passed since the end of the war! I don’t know how they turned out. Military unit 11011 - driving school.
  11. vvvjak
    vvvjak 26 June 2020 14: 18 New
    +8
    So, Michael Bohm declares that Putin “forgot to report the following”

    And M. Bom himself did not “forget to tell” how much the United States invested in the economy of the Third Reich.
    1. bar
      bar 26 June 2020 14: 39 New
      +1
      And M. Bom himself did not “forget to tell” how much the United States invested in the economy of the Third Reich.

      Germany remembers this. Therefore, he runs in stripes on a short leash.
  12. Olegater
    Olegater 26 June 2020 14: 18 New
    +2
    Maybe it’s worth telling how the arrogant politicians were silent when the Nazis crushed such a cozy European woman for themselves and were silent when their protege Hitler became the leader? And can you tell in connection with what they entered the Second World War at the very end and refused to help the Soviet People in the fight against these reptiles? How did you come to the end of the war and cover the floor of a European woman? And how did they sponsor everyone (from money to raw materials and weapons) to Hitler and his army?
    Much can be said, but they do not need it. Normal and thinking people need to tell and prove, in the West this is not and is not expected in the near future. So why react to the hollow breeds of this biomass?
    The main thing that we would not forget, nothing and nobody !!!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 June 2020 15: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Olegater
      Maybe it’s worth telling how the arrogant politicians were silent when the Nazis crushed such a cozy European woman for themselves and were silent when their protege Hitler became the leader?

      I wonder who paid how much the Soviet Union paid for the liberation of Europe.
  13. Andrey.AN
    Andrey.AN 26 June 2020 14: 18 New
    -2
    They had a choice, either to smell a cookie, or to write off what they didn’t have time to take from their former friendship, although they hell, they were embarrassed by the people.
  14. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 26 June 2020 14: 31 New
    -5
    why, then, the American journalist does not recall the gold that was exported to the United States during the formation of Soviet Russia,

    What is it about commercial purchases of equipment, technologies, projects and entire factories?
  15. bar
    bar 26 June 2020 14: 37 New
    +2
    "Wrote off the lion's share of debt under Lend-Lease, the total amount of which amounted to about 11 billion dollars"

    Mr. Bom forgot to read Wikipedia.
    The volume of US deliveries under Lend-Lease amounted to about $ 10,8 billion. According to the Lend-Lease Act, only equipment that survived the war was payable ... In the United States, it was initially calculated that the amount payable for surviving civilian vehicles and equipment, taking into account their depreciation, was 2,6 billion.

    At the same time, part of the surviving equipment was returned to the United States. So, as a result of negotiations, the amount was halved to 1,3 yards.
    1. Avior
      Avior 26 June 2020 21: 24 New
      +1
      The amount of 2,6 billion is already after ours returned everything that they considered necessary
      The Americans made a discount on wear and tear on what they wanted to leave themselves, and that's how it turned out the amount of 2.6 billion
      From this amount, the Americans immediately without any negotiations, the States immediately dropped half.
      And so it turned out 1,3 billion
      And only then ours began to bargain
  16. Kelwin
    Kelwin 26 June 2020 14: 42 New
    0
    According to Bohm, in Russia "the popular myth is still flourishing that the USSR completely paid with gold for deliveries on lend-lease."

    I would read whether the conditions of Lend-Lease - you had to pay only that part of the delivered property that was not used / destroyed in wartime, not transferred back after the war and remained suitable for civilian use. The USSR considered the property worth 340 million as such a part, the mattresses claimed 820, while refusing to take back part of the military property, presumably 270 lyam,оmost of this was distributed among the countries of the socialist camp. Later, the mattresses themselves withdrew their claims on their own initiative. The USSR paid the entire undisputed amount in full and with metallic gold. Do these test tubes bombs ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 June 2020 15: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: KelWin
      Do these test tubes bombs ...

      Kneeling in a Chinese bazaar.
      1. Kelwin
        Kelwin 27 June 2020 04: 58 New
        +1
        Vlad, look how offended they were at the test tubes ...)) Boma’s agents))) at least someone said something wrong ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 27 June 2020 09: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: KelWin
          Vlad, look how offended they were at the test tubes ...)) Boma agents

          Uncle Sam’s adherents work out their “bucks,” or maybe ideological ones, they just love Bomov.
  17. Andylw
    Andylw 26 June 2020 14: 43 New
    -6
    Indeed, the United States wrote off (forgiven) most of the Lend-Lease debt to us. However, not only to us.
    What does the reference to damage from the intervention have to do with it? it’s about the second world war!
    And the secret protocols of other countries with Germany are only the author’s imagination. Would - would have been presented for a long time. The same Poles were communist for 45 years and the old government oh how they did not like it)))
  18. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 26 June 2020 14: 59 New
    -2
    According to Bohm, in Russia "the popular myth is still flourishing that the USSR completely paid with gold for deliveries on lend-lease."
    The Soviet Union had to pay blood for all. Therefore, both the West and the United States forever owe to the Soviet Union.
    1. Andylw
      Andylw 26 June 2020 15: 50 New
      +5
      we saved ourselves! SE-BYA! your homeland!
      not west!
      and they don’t owe us anything
      like us to them
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 26 June 2020 18: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: AndyLW
        we saved ourselves! SE-BYA! your homeland!
        not west!
        and they don’t owe us anything
        like us to them

        You are talking about that again, and I am writing for the hundredth time that we liberated the whole of Europe from the Nazis and the loss of the USSR over a million people, and how to count it? And the West is now even demolishing our monuments, that's gratitude. And you, "The West owes us nothing!"
        1. Andylw
          Andylw 26 June 2020 20: 12 New
          +4
          but what do you think, if we reached the state borders of the USSR and stopped, Hitler would stop fighting with us?
          What kind of nonsense?
          We beat the enemy everywhere, until victory, not for the West, but for ourselves.
          And nobody owes us anything for our victory.
          And why our monuments were not demolished before, but are now demolished? think ...
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 26 June 2020 20: 15 New
            -3
            Quote: AndyLW
            We beat the enemy everywhere, until victory, not for the West, but for ourselves.

            For MYSELF, our fathers and grandfathers beat on their territory, and for whom the brother of my grandfather, who fell on the Zeelovsky Heights and Uncle Kostya died in Hungary, fought for. I don’t understand this.
            1. Andylw
              Andylw 26 June 2020 20: 35 New
              +6
              Quote: tihonmarine
              I don’t understand this.

              it’s bad that you don’t understand this.
              The soldiers who were dying in Berlin for their homeland understood why they were there.
              and wrote on shells "for Stalingrad", "for Kiev" and not "for Budapest" and not "for Warsaw"
            2. Sergey Averchenkov
              Sergey Averchenkov 28 June 2020 04: 48 New
              +2
              Ah, you are a rat ... Meet me in my life, I’ll smear your face on the asphalt. Maybe Leningrad should have passed? And what less victims ... you filthy.
              Again in a ban, but I cannot leave such bullshit without an answer.
          2. Kelwin
            Kelwin 27 June 2020 05: 05 New
            +1
            Quote: AndyLW
            And why our monuments were not demolished before, but are now demolished?

            But because fear is lost. And the only way to correct this wrong worldview is to demolish the tower once more. So we still may well have the honor of becoming worthy of the memory of grandfathers. It depends on when in the celestial spheres they fight ....
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 27 June 2020 09: 57 New
              +1
              Quote: KelWin
              But because fear is lost. And the only way to correct this wrong worldview is to demolish the tower once more.

              That fear lost the ungrateful children of the yard, that's for sure. In my opinion, only “the slag don't know” their attitude to the liberation of Europe. But since their tail has already been shortened, and they are telling them, it means they need to be chopped off to the end. The guys burst into oblivion, they forgot 1945. See the latest statement by Merkil and the European Union, "extend sanctions against Russia." And what does it look like ??? NOT the Yankees say, but the Europeans in robes of the color of the sky. Time passed after 1945, the wounds were licked, the tail was lifted, and again the same songs were sung: "Russia threatens us, drang tries." So release them or don’t release them, but all the same once again you have to beat the face.
              1. Andylw
                Andylw 27 June 2020 14: 18 New
                -1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                once again have to beat the face.

                for what? for songs and monuments?
                did you want blood again?
                you attack - you yourself will become Hitler
  19. prior
    prior 26 June 2020 15: 00 New
    +1
    This Bohm should have been kicked to the Canadian border.
    And with the Americans to demand an answer for helping Hitler in the formation of the military industry and much more.
    Negotiations between Daless and Wolf, we also did not forget.
  20. parusnik
    parusnik 26 June 2020 15: 04 New
    +2
    Finally, there’s no discussion ... Ugh Mr. Bom on you ... ugh again ...
  21. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 26 June 2020 15: 15 New
    0
    While they sat there overseas and Hitler financed earning money from it, the USSR was counting on millions of people, the capitalists were filthy, no one owed you anything.
  22. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 26 June 2020 15: 16 New
    +1
    As far as I know from the conversations of the elders, in fact, all deliveries had to be returned or paid. And so their studebakers rotted and much more in the ports - they needed money (gold). I do not like Americans, it is a nation of hucksters and money-grubbers. Americans, you will forgive me if that ... Or don’t forgive me - I’ll get it.
    1. Kelwin
      Kelwin 27 June 2020 05: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      And so their studebakers rotted and much more in the ports - they needed money (gold)

      So for sure, to return what was left, to pay for what was left for civilian needs. But, of course, these nonsense wanted gold, what for they rusty scrap ... So we broke them off honestly, but this can not be recognized - the manual is not written that way ..)).
  23. Professor
    Professor 26 June 2020 15: 26 New
    -1
    The President of Russia noted that Russia has become virtually the only state that has opened the archives of the pre-war years.

    Not true. Not all documents are declassified; documents relating to World War II are generally classified for the most part.
    1. Avior
      Avior 26 June 2020 16: 27 New
      +1
      And in the most seemingly simple things.
      For example, a person wondering why the famous partisans Saburov or Kovpak became Heroes of the Soviet Union will quickly find out that they and many others are excluded from the award databases.
      There is a line of order, but no award sheets.
      1. Kelwin
        Kelwin 27 June 2020 05: 46 New
        0
        Sergey, it’s not so simple there - the title of Hero was awarded by the Supreme Council, and the award sheets were signed at the level of the army general. The partisans did not formally belong to any army structure, and, accordingly, could not receive award sheets. The grandfather did not have any awards either, although he was a holder of the Order of Lenin and the Red Star of the 2nd and 3rd degree, among other things. Grachev Sergey Vasilievich, born in 1924
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 June 2020 09: 06 New
          -2
          The award list is always and without fail, compiled by the structure that represents the award with a description of the feat and can not be otherwise.
          And for your grandfather they are for sure, it is not clear only what you had in mind with the degrees of the Red Star. I didn’t find your grandfather in the lists, can you throw the link?
          1. Kelwin
            Kelwin 27 June 2020 11: 04 New
            +1
            Right now, we are sitting with my wife thinking like this, in theory there should be sheets, but we never saw them. There were order books, for sure, but there were no sheets. Regarding these nuances with the partisans, I have heard from my father more than once, I remember this moment well, there was something with pensions at the turn of the 90s. In general, no one ever bothered with this issue, but now it has become wildly interesting - I’ll get to my mother, I’ll be sure to rummage through the papers, I promise to report the result. With links (to what? ..), I won’t help in anything, I’m not an archivist and not a historian, I have no idea where it is all written down, but I held all my grandfather’s awards, including and both stars and the other a dozen.
            1. Avior
              Avior 27 June 2020 11: 36 New
              +2
              The award sheets are not handed out, they are stored in archives, and you couldn’t have them at your home.
              Now the archives for award documents are digitized and laid out for public access, like some other Documents relating to personnel.
              You can watch on the sites Memory of the People and Feat of the People, for example,

              http://podvignaroda.ru/?#tab=navHome

              indicate the name and year of birth there, then select the place of conscription in the list, if called up.
              There will be either scans of award documents or a link to a sheet in the archive, and then you can order a copy. In the award sheet there will be a brief description of what specifically awarded
              hi
              1. Kelwin
                Kelwin 27 June 2020 11: 43 New
                +1
                Ah, here it is. I get it. Thank you very much for the explanation, otherwise we almost panic))
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 27 June 2020 17: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      Not all documents are declassified; documents relating to World War II are generally classified for the most part.

      And in what country are they declassified?
  24. Pacifist
    Pacifist 26 June 2020 15: 26 New
    +1
    American journalist: Putin forgot to report in the article that the USA wrote off the main debt of the USSR under Lend-Lease

    It would also be nice to write down how much gold they received, as well as how many works of art they exported from countries, etc., as well as ask a question about the supply of materials and spare parts to the Reich at the time we fought with him ... I can continue for a long time ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 26 June 2020 16: 23 New
      +2
      If you continue about how the States supplied Germany with oil, and the Germans didn’t sink the MS Standard Oil tankers in response, then this fake is very primitive and has long been debunked by real facts.
      And if you can write about the case, it would be interesting to read the facts, not your hints.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 26 June 2020 18: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: Pacifist
      as well as ask a question about the supply of the Reich with materials and spare parts at the time when we fought with him

      Better not. And then Britain may also ask a question on the subject of the Soviet Union supplying the Reich with materials and spare parts at the time when they fought with it.
  25. qaz
    qaz 26 June 2020 15: 32 New
    0
    This bom is so ...
  26. Prisoner
    Prisoner 26 June 2020 15: 32 New
    0
    Bear Bom is still a shot. He would be in Full House or to Petrosyan, he would have made a career.
  27. Alexander Sosnitsky
    Alexander Sosnitsky 26 June 2020 15: 34 New
    0
    Putin “forgot” because lending charity was provided in conjunction with the same help from Germany, which regained its power for a war with the USSR with the goal of mutual destruction, which actually happened. But to say this means a new war in global discussion, which will tear everyone and everything, including the United States. All such “discussions” are based on conscious lies, which are advancing as a global standard. After WWII, the States became everything, while the others became nothing. At the same time, it turns out xy from xy in this thread.
  28. Lew
    Lew 26 June 2020 15: 58 New
    -1
    and where does his wife look? no matter how, Russian woman ..
  29. Avior
    Avior 26 June 2020 16: 16 New
    0
    . Or would you still have to count?

    It would be interesting to see such a count
    Only serious, with documentary evidence - when, who, how much, and under what conditions?
    And not endless stories about the export of gold in Edinburgh.
    And at the same time, read the dachshund with documentary evidence about the secretary protocols of other countries with Germany, which the author alludes to.
    We will wait for his article on these topics.
  30. Poetry
    Poetry 26 June 2020 16: 18 New
    +2
    It is hard to believe that these Koshcheis forgave the debt of the USSR. They would strangle their own mother for $ 5.
  31. DeKo
    DeKo 26 June 2020 16: 21 New
    +1
    Bom famous starBom. After all, he once declared that if Germany hadn’t attacked the USSR on June 22.06.1941, 17, then July 1941, XNUMX ????? Stalin planned to attack Germany himself
  32. 1536
    1536 26 June 2020 16: 25 New
    0
    The Great Patriotic War began on June 22, 1941. American Lend-Lease deliveries began to be carried out only in December 1941, when the Nazi troops were already defeated near Moscow. Thus, for half a year the Red Army fought one on one with the Wehrmacht, and in fact with the armed forces of all of continental Europe. Does this bom know about this? Or can he only sew flags from different rags of colored fabric?
  33. HAM
    HAM 26 June 2020 16: 37 New
    +3
    And why doesn’t he remember how much the states and England owe us: if the Red Army did not intervene (at the request of the Allies), the Germans would definitely pinch the soldiers of the "liberators" of Europe ... The Red Army was forced to launch an offensive with virtually no training, paying the lives of soldiers ... The lost lives of the Red Army are nothing to them ...
    It’s a pity that Bomu wasn’t filled with a face in a chat show ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 26 June 2020 17: 04 New
      +3
      Quote: HAM
      And why does he not remember how much the states and England owe us: if the Red Army had not intervened (at the request of the Allies), the Germans would have definitely nipped the soldiers of the "liberators" of Europe ...


      The Germans would have simply defeated them, and the rest would have been thrown into the English Channel.
  34. cniza
    cniza 26 June 2020 17: 02 New
    +4
    What the West and people like Mr. Bom are trying to do.


    Mr. Bom has been living in Russia for many years, earns money here and no one knows him as a journalist in the USA ...
  35. Tatiana Egorova
    Tatiana Egorova 26 June 2020 17: 15 New
    +3
    "A number of politicians out of habit hastened to declare that Russia is trying to rewrite history. However, they could not refute a single fact, not a single argument cited. Of course, it’s difficult, and impossible to argue with genuine documents, which, by the way, are not stored only in Russian, but also in foreign archives. " Let the gentlemen Europeans present documents from their archives and then we will see hu from hu. "Great Britain and the United States. Their financial and industrial circles have been very active in investing in German factories and factories producing military products." After reading this, America in the person of Bohm, decided to at least somehow make excuses, or rather, once again lie. Finally, Russia paid on August 21, 2006. How America will forgive debt.
  36. Suslin
    Suslin 26 June 2020 17: 35 New
    +1
    Of course, for the United States, the question of money is the most important! As they say: war of wars, and they love money. But not everything is measured in money! Because of this approach, many do not like the United States.
  37. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 June 2020 17: 38 New
    +3
    Yeah, wait, the stripes will write off, then they will write again. At first I took this eccentric to the letter M for normal, then I realized - a chatterbox.
  38. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 26 June 2020 17: 47 New
    +2
    Whatever they say, American Lend-Lease supplies helped a lot in the war, saved millions of our soldiers and reduced the time of the war. Thanks to America for this and you should not bicker anyone who owes. People’s lives are more expensive than ammunition.
  39. Alecsandr
    Alecsandr 26 June 2020 18: 21 New
    +2
    After restructuring, America tear off money from Russia directly or indirectly for several lend-leases is enough. Only the sale of 500 tons of uranium is worth it. Yes, and now, despite the sanctions, the masked export of raw materials and finances from Russia continues in favor of our overseas "partners"
  40. Brigadier
    Brigadier 26 June 2020 18: 29 New
    +1
    Bohm hears a jingle, but does not know where he is ... laughing lol tongue

    Evening ringing, bom bom .. Evening ringing, bom bom ...
    How many thoughts, bom-bom .. He brings, bom-bom ... laughing drinks
  41. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 26 June 2020 18: 47 New
    0
    so how much did the USSR pay out of 11 billion lendlizovskih dollars?
  42. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 26 June 2020 19: 12 New
    +2
    Better to tell how Hitler’s fsh was supported both before the war and during.
  43. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 26 June 2020 19: 18 New
    +1
    For this Lend-Lease they were heading big, and not only in gold, this allowed the Soviet Union to break the Third Reich, and the United States to overcome the crisis.
  44. iouris
    iouris 26 June 2020 19: 26 New
    +1
    And the USA "wrote off" the USSR 27 million people. Immediately after the war, the US ambassador to the USSR wrote a report to Washington, in which he assesses the consequences of the blow that was inflicted on the USSR, and writes that the USSR will no longer be able to recover. But the United States has become a leading superpower, controlling up to 70% of the world's gold reserves.
  45. Kruglov
    Kruglov 26 June 2020 20: 28 New
    +1
    How much more time, this fag, will we hang around in Russia ?! Isn't it time to throw him back to pin Dostan ?!
  46. Federal1
    Federal1 26 June 2020 21: 29 New
    -7
    the sofas were revived, the scrapers fastened together ... no one helped us to get it and turned out to be runny 7% it was the whole lend-lease (written off later almost at 0, but that is) yay .... and the industry of Germany destroyed at 0 not the brave Stalinist falcons, as they forgot, and the grub of the 2nd front, too, and the full motorization of the army after the nightmare 41 too .. everyone forgot how much the wolf did not feed gratitude on the rain, dare the soldiers of sofas, dream and do not deny yourself anything)) )
  47. Allax
    Allax 26 June 2020 22: 07 New
    +1
    Yes, not a damn USA written off!
    After the war, the USSR and the United States diverged in assessments of the cost of assistance provided by Lend-Lease as much as 8 times! Stalin naturally immediately stopped making payments until the issue of the cost of lend-lease was resolved.
    They returned to this question only under Brezhnev. At that time, the amount of debt under Lendliz was fixed at twice as much as the USSR estimates (and, correspondingly, four times less than the US estimates), but including all accrued and future interest, and a payment schedule was agreed upon. The USSR managed to make only a few payments, and then another deterioration in relations with the US came and debt payments were frozen again.
    After the collapse of the USSR, Lend-Lease debts were hanged on Russia, like all other USSR debts, in exchange for transferring all the USSR foreign property to it (what did Putin say recently that not all property was actually returned to Russia?) . The USA, taught that with any cooling of relations between Russia and the USSR freezes the payment of debts on lend-lease, they sold all these debts to the London and Paris lender clubs.
    In 2004, after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, the United States faced the problem of Iraq's Soviet debts. Putin agreed with the United States that Russia would write off these debts, and in exchange, the United States would help us agree with the London and Paris clubs of lenders to pay off our debts ahead of schedule, which in theory should save us comparable amounts in interest. We fulfilled our part of the transaction and all debts to Iraq were written off, but the USA, after the cancellation was written off, began to bustle and sided with the London and Paris Club of creditors demanding compensation for early repayment. As a result, the sums saved were many times less than those that we expected. But one way or another, in 2011, Russia repaid all debts to the London and Paris lenders' clubs ahead of schedule, including loan lending.
    So there is no question of writing off anything!
  48. Iris
    Iris 26 June 2020 22: 44 New
    0
    Not recognizing the help of the Allies is a meanness. The only thing this teaches us - the worst War on Earth - is that you can only cope with Beda together.
    And I’ll also say - if we do not forget their feat, they will not forget ours.
    1. poppy admiral
      poppy admiral 27 June 2020 00: 17 New
      +2
      In general, I agree with you, only here is the problem, they have long forgotten!
      1. Iris
        Iris 27 June 2020 00: 52 New
        0
        I judge individuals through personal contacts. For the Americans, the British. According to the French - to those who knew personally, or at least heard about the Normandy-Niemen fighters. Believe me, not everything is lost.
  49. AKS-U
    AKS-U 27 June 2020 00: 02 New
    +3
    No wonder. We are too different on this Planet. Americans (including Bohm) count money. And we consider those who died in this war.
    - "" The Red Army saved tens of thousands of lives ": what role the USSR played in the Ardennes operation"
    “On January 3, 1945, the Allies launched a full-scale offensive, however, in order for it not to end in disaster, they needed support. On January 5 and 6, Winston Churchill sent Joseph Stalin desperate requests to go on the offensive on the Eastern Front. ”
    “If we evaluate the situation fairly, then the Red Army, having launched an offensive on the Eastern Front ahead of time in the most difficult conditions for itself, rendered a great service to the Allies and saved tens of thousands of lives of American and British soldiers”
    And how much THEY owe us, who either calculated or not?
  50. poppy admiral
    poppy admiral 27 June 2020 00: 09 New
    +2
    Putin didn’t write my opinion on historical work (monograph), therefore he didn’t mention about Lend-Lease, and they don’t have to, either, they don’t remember much about 2MV. On the other hand, it’s foolish to deny that the help on the lend was serious, to recall only the Studebaker.