American journalist: Putin forgot to report in the article that the USA wrote off the main debt of the USSR under Lend-Lease

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After the release of an article by Vladimir Putin on World War II, Western journalists suddenly considered it their duty to immediately publish their own comments. At the same time, many position themselves almost as historians-specialists in the WWII field, although earlier for some reason historical the truth about the war, these people paid very little attention, if any. Among these “historian commentators” was Michael Bom, who was a frequent guest at Russian political talk show studios.

In his article on the pages of the Echo of Moscow site, Mr. Bom decided to tell readers that he saw inaccuracies and inconsistencies in the material of the Russian president.



So, Michael Bohm declares that Putin “forgot to tell the following”: the USA “wrote off the lion's share of Lend-Lease debt, the total amount of which amounted to about $ 11 billion.” According to Bohm, in Russia "the popular myth is still flourishing that the USSR completely paid with gold for deliveries on lend-lease."

Bom:

This, of course, is not true.

It is interesting why, in this case, the American journalist does not recall the gold that was exported to the United States during the formation of Soviet Russia, nor does it recall how much material assets the Russian army removed from Russia during the intervention in the Far East. Or would you still have to count?

Further, an American journalist, calling himself independent (at least that is how he is presented on the echo), indicates other "inaccuracies." For example, Bom comments on the words of Vladimir Putin that after the Nazi invasion of Poland, there were no other options for the USSR.

Bom:

How “no other options left” ?! After all, it was precisely this invasion and partition of Poland that was clearly agreed upon in the secret protocol of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which was signed only a week before Hitler attacked Poland.

However, Mr. Bom involuntarily or consciously ignores the important phrase spoken by Putin. The President of Russia noted that Russia has become virtually the only state that has opened the archives of the pre-war years. Until now, the countries that signed treaties (pacts) with Hitler in the 1930s (before the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact) did not open the materials. In this regard, it is likely that secret protocols to the "nonaggression pacts" are also available in the archives of Western countries.

As an example, the Polish invasion of the Tieszyn region. It is unlikely that Poland would have allowed itself such an invasion of Czechoslovakia without signing the relevant protocol and approval from Berlin. But the fact that Poland closed the passage to Soviet troops who intended to help Czechoslovakia to defend their independence is very well known. But only Mr. Bohm does not mention this.

American journalist: Putin forgot to report in the article that the USA wrote off the main debt of the USSR under Lend-Lease


At the same time, Bohm, as if trying to justify the collective West, claims that his (West) difference today is that he “condemned the Munich agreement”, and Russia continues to consider the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact an achievement of Soviet diplomacy.

An interesting interpretation: they "condemned" ... It was about a survival war, when the fate of the people, the fate of literally every person, was decided for the USSR. But then in Europe for some reason no one thought to condemn anything. And now, when decades have passed, to “condemn” is the same as to withdraw responsibility in hindsight. What the West and people like Mr. Bom are trying to do.
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  1. -4
    26 June 2020 14: 05
    it's all tricks of nuland, she hired thousands of trolls to wreak havoc
    1. +16
      26 June 2020 14: 20
      count how surprised she was when she was told that most people there didn’t have to pay. enough money invested in YouTube videos
    2. +58
      26 June 2020 14: 58
      As far as I know, the USSR had to pay only for what survived after the war. In 1948, the United States posted a debt of $ 2,7 billion. Naturally, the USSR did not agree with this amount. Negotiations were held until the collapse of the Union and Russia paid off the final amount of the debt on August 21, 2006.
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      2. +35
        26 June 2020 15: 07
        And in general, how debt payment relates to the WWII topic ... Well, it’s just that the topic is out of place, it was something else, and there was so much to mention, just the topic is not about that at all.
        And so you are right
        Negotiations were conducted until the collapse of the Union and Russia paid off the final amount of the debt on August 21, 2006 ..

        But who cares when you just need to spray your saliva into the GDP
      3. +28
        26 June 2020 16: 46
        Quote: Wend
        and on the final amount of debt Russia paid off on August 21, 2006 ..

        Not only here the Amer bastard lied, but here:
        : How are “no other options” ?! After all, this is exactly invasion and partition Poland was clearly agreed upon in the secret protocol of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which was signed just a week before Hitler attacked Poland.

        1. There is NOT a WORD about "invasion" in the protocol - neither clear, nor indistinct.
        2. The partition is not Poland, but SPHERE of influence,

        This city nida clearly advocated, therefore, for the FULL occupation of Poland by the Nazis, i.e. for residents of former eastern Poland FOR TWO YEARS more were under the Nazis, and hundreds of thousands of Jews from there, two years earlier hit the Auschwitz.

        And to remind this hypocritical goat: France and England took the position and actions of the USSR in this matter.
        Which is logical: wildly give something to the Nazis
        1. +21
          26 June 2020 22: 54
          Quote: Olgovich
          And to remind this hypocritical goat: France and England took the position and actions of the USSR in this matter.

          And it would be nice to ask Bohm for that American stew, which the Fritzes ate throughout the war in the trenches, when they fought with the USSR. The mattresses entered the war only when they realized that Germany would lose, and therefore they climbed in to share the glory of the winner, after which they pulled all the gold of Europe into their vaults in order to "protect" from the communists. Rare hypocrites.
          1. +1
            27 June 2020 07: 11
            Germany, say? So Germany still pays for its Lend-Lease. True, she hurts her eyes.
        2. +9
          27 June 2020 06: 02
          The plan of attack on Poland was ready in April 1939, and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was signed on August 23, 1939, it does not fit in, Bohm interprets the topic as beneficial to him and others like him (West). Why be surprised, we have an information war with them.
      4. -31
        26 June 2020 16: 46
        According to Bohm, in Russia "the popular myth is still flourishing that the USSR completely paid with gold for deliveries on lend-lease."

        Of course a myth. The USA did not supply any lendlis. Delivered garbage equipment and other illiquid assets. So lies Bom.
        1. +1
          26 June 2020 18: 05
          All the best was delivered to England. Even against the will of the United States.
          1. +8
            26 June 2020 18: 16
            All the best was delivered to England. Even against the will of the United States.

            Indeed - did the British pay with Lend-Lease then? )))
            1. Alf
              +12
              26 June 2020 19: 07
              Quote: lucul
              All the best was delivered to England. Even against the will of the United States.

              Indeed - did the British pay with Lend-Lease then? )))

              They paid. The fact that Britain has divided America to underpants. Who was the British Empire before the war and what became after?
              1. +1
                28 June 2020 13: 21
                So for that, the USA started this war. And Hitler was pumped up with money.
            2. +5
              26 June 2020 19: 51
              War comes when it is necessary to remove the active and active part of society. So to say, knock down the gene pool of mankind. After all, it was noticed that noble smart and valiant go to war. Well, respectively, and coughs them up. And they remain in the rear, you know who you are.
              And with whom and when to start a war - this is the third question.
        2. Alf
          +6
          26 June 2020 19: 06
          Quote: AKuzenka
          Delivered garbage equipment and other illiquid assets.

          B-25 is illiquid? Then why did you use it yourself?
          A-20-illiquid? Then why did you use it yourself?
          Sherman illiquid? Then why did they ride the whole war on it themselves?
          Yes, and the Jeeps were junk, but the question is, why did you drive it yourself?
          1. +5
            26 June 2020 22: 50
            Ask any American what a Studebaker is, 95% of you will be given the wrong answer. They do not know such a car brand, they have not heard of it. Neither the army nor the navy took these vehicles.
        3. +4
          27 June 2020 20: 15
          Not really. Understand the topic. For some positions, they covered our needs up to 70%. For example, on rare earth metals up to 90 ++% Just look at the statistics.
      5. +16
        26 June 2020 17: 23
        It is interesting how much they would appreciate the lives of the Americans saved by the Soviet soldiers threshing the Nazis ?!
    3. +5
      26 June 2020 15: 48
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      these are all tricks of nuland

      Churchill came up with all this in the eighteenth year!
      1. -17
        26 June 2020 16: 41
        The President of Russia noted that Russia has become virtually the only state that has opened the archives of the pre-war years.


        One hundred percent lies.
        1. +4
          27 June 2020 14: 00
          Unfortunately there is no lie! There is an agreement, 1946, the countries of the victors do not publish the pre-war archives one hundred twenty-five years, these are our faithful Westerners-liberalists ahead of the planet choking on saliva in anticipation of thirty silver coins, violated this agreement.
    4. +7
      26 June 2020 16: 42
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      it's all tricks of nuland, she hired thousands of trolls to wreak havoc

      Nuland herself is a hired troll. Somehow this lady does not pull on the role of the arbiters of the world.
    5. +3
      26 June 2020 22: 44
      Quote: Nastia Makarova
      it's all tricks of nuland, she hired thousands of trolls to wreak havoc
      Your comment sounds somewhat ambiguous. I still did not understand against whom, or in whose favor it is directed, since each individual word is understandable, and the general meaning is perceived as a banter with an incomprehensible recipient, you are for Bohm and Nuland (to say the West) against the position of Russia, or for Russia and against Bohm and Nuland (West)? Judging by the fact that you got 13 minuses, in the process I’m not alone among those who did not understand.
      1. +4
        27 June 2020 10: 24
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        the general meaning is perceived as banter with an incomprehensible destination
        Everything is transparent here. This is a banter for those who believe or know that there is an information war in the network, in which there are bots, operators, staff work, etc. I would say this is a banter over common sense, for a la ger com a la ger.
  2. +19
    26 June 2020 14: 06
    And is it worth discussing the statement of this mongrel?
    1. +1
      26 June 2020 14: 39
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And is it worth discussing the statement of this mongrel?

      Of course not! I’ve blabbed everything drunk laughing
    2. +10
      26 June 2020 14: 53
      And is it worth discussing the statement of this mongrel?

      We are discussing this here, while others believe in all these tales. If they didn’t believe, they wouldn’t be written in all kinds of mongrels.
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    3. +5
      26 June 2020 15: 45
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And is it worth discussing the statement of this mongrel?

      I agree ! Before that, this topic was all discussed ... God bless them ungrateful moneylenders .. The only thing I would like to remind the USA is that they were in a deep crisis before the Second World War .. And after the war they suddenly became a world power with a powerful economy and army (which minimal losses in it) .. God is their judge and he is punishing the USA for pride now with pogroms, etc.
      1. +9
        26 June 2020 16: 48
        They can still be reminded that Hitler’s economy rose through their efforts and an opportunity appeared to attack the USSR. So let them pay compensation to Russia for the restoration of the German economy and the provocation of World War II!
        1. +4
          26 June 2020 18: 21
          Quote: AKuzenka
          They can still be reminded that Hitler’s economy rose through their efforts and an opportunity appeared to attack the USSR.

          It was the Anglo-Saxons who did everything to direct Hitler to Russia, trying to save their skins (after all, Nazism appeared in Germany after the defeat in the First World War, where Germany was literally brought to its knees and robbed godlessly ..
          Quote: AKuzenka
          So let them pay compensation to Russia for the restoration of the German economy and the provocation of World War II!

          Russia can make such claims that the Anglo-Saxons (USA and other Europe) will become at the level of an African country in the desert .. But alas!
          They will destroy themselves .. You just have to wait negative
      2. +2
        27 June 2020 00: 46
        Quote: Golovan
        I would like to remind the United States that before the Second World War they were in a deep crisis .. And after the war they suddenly became a world power with ...

        Americans in the 1MB entered the red: at the end of Europe should have seemed 5 lard. After WW2, Europe was destroyed and owed amer 11lard money .. Nothing personal, only business ...
  3. +4
    26 June 2020 14: 08
    Stalin did not recognize any part of the debt. I don’t remember the details.
    1. +12
      26 June 2020 14: 39
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Stalin did not recognize any part of the debt.

      Then they started muddying up with the restructuring of the debt, which was "scattered" among private companies, which thus became creditors. The fact is that the last tranche of these loans was paid in 2006. And the non-matrassic Bom (who, by the way, hangs around in Russia) has remained a dim ass, over and over again pushing through another delirium.
    2. +20
      26 June 2020 14: 42
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Stalin did not recognize any part of the debt. I don’t remember the details.
      According to my data I.V. Stalin did not think that the USSR should pay for the supply of weapons, because He believed that this was the contribution of the Allies to the common cause of victory over the fascist plague. Truman believed that we should pay for everything ... Yankees! - what to take from them !!! No shame, no conscience! And before the eyes of the dead - dimes ,,,,
      The main problem of the USSR was the payment lend-lease debts. Although not all materials supplied by the United States to the Soviet Union under this program were payable, but only not used in hostilities and cannot be returned, the amount of debt, according to the US, was $ 1,3 billion. The USSR believed that its debt was much less - 170 million. Negotiations of the government delegations of the two countries on this issue under Stalin and Truman were interrupted and resumed several times. In the end, the United States agreed to reduce the amount of debt to $ 800 million, but the USSR was ready to pay only $ 300 million, and then the negotiations were interrupted. Only in 1972, under Brezhnev and Nixon, was the final agreement reached, according to which the USSR was to pay $ 722 million in installments. The last lend-lease debt transaction was conducted by the Russian Federation in 2006. Taking into account the inflation index, the amount of debt paid by the USSR and Russia is estimated at 0,4% of the real cost of lend-lease supplies.

      https://finance.rambler.ru/markets/41501461/?utm_content.
      What we agreed on was paid! Therefore, let Mr. Blom go through the forest!
      AHA.
      1. +1
        26 June 2020 14: 57
        As far as I heard, the last payments under the lease lease were either in the 60s or in the 80s. In general, they paid for a long time. But in general, yes. What we agreed on, then paid.
  4. +13
    26 June 2020 14: 10
    At the same time, Bohm, as if trying to justify the collective West, claims that his (West) difference today is that he “condemned the Munich agreement”, and Russia continues to consider the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact an achievement of Soviet diplomacy.

    A conspiracy with Hitler must be condemned, and a nonaggression pact is not a conspiracy and is not condemned for anything.
    1. +10
      26 June 2020 14: 49
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Conspiracy with Hitler must be condemned ...
      In 1939 - they definitely needed to be condemned ... But the bastards incited the possessed demon to the USSR! and thought that it was necessary ... with both hands!
      And in hindsight, it certainly turns out very much! but only in Blom’s assessment. I personally have not heard an official condemnation either from England or from France. Therefore, Bim-Bom - twists the soul and dodges like the last bastard! At the same time hang noodles on the ears of gullible aborigines! This is also in the tradition of arrogant Saxons ...
      But.
  5. +14
    26 June 2020 14: 10
    Russia (USSR) paid in full the lives of its soldiers and civilians.
    1. +8
      26 June 2020 14: 36
      Exactly. But here each is about his own, we are about the millions of our victims, and they are, as always, about money ... To whom is it more expensive.
      1. +1
        26 June 2020 17: 24
        Of course, this is so: only conscience, at least its beginnings, must also be had.
        On the other hand, during the post-war years, how many times our intelligence services reported on the appearance of almost annual plans for the Union’s nuclear bombing and we held on only due to the fact that we worked hard on the nuclear project.
        And it was our shock work, and precisely the creation of the atomic bomb as a weapon of retaliation, that prevented the American nuclear attack on the Union.
        And with its availability, it was possible to further agree on the terms of payments under Lend-Lease and, if possible, delaying the deadlines.
        1. +2
          26 June 2020 17: 27
          Well, what kind of conscience are you talking about? They have been dreaming of destroying us all their lives.
          1. +1
            26 June 2020 17: 45
            Conscience for a person is an ethical concept, it may or may not be present - it all depends on upbringing.
            Conscience for the state is a political concept, therefore it must be obligated regardless of the sum of everything else.
            And if the United States does not have this concept from birth, and there was no one to educate it, and even once (they removed the scalps from the Indians!), Then the corresponding result and the respect are not worthy!
      2. +1
        26 June 2020 21: 39
        From the US side there was no help, but pure commerce. Whatever words she was called. Each piece of iron and each jar of stew was valued in gold equivalent.
        Traders.
        They threw the lives of their soldiers into the fire only to share the fruits of victory, the division of Europe. How is it - nothing personal, just business?
        And if we take into account the powerful lending by American banks to Germany before the war, then the conclusion suggests itself - they did not care who won. Just the winner brings more profit.
  6. +6
    26 June 2020 14: 13
    Ping dos sia is the only country on the planet, which both the 1st World War and the 2nd World War went "into the vein", helped to overcome economic crises, and served as an impetus for conquering the current position in the world. Moreover, the cost in human sacrifice was minimal.
    1. +6
      26 June 2020 15: 05
      Quote: K-50
      Ping dos sia is the only country on the planet, which both the 1st World War and the 2nd World War went "into the vein", helped to overcome economic crises, and served as an impetus for conquering the current position in the world. Moreover, the cost in human sacrifice was minimal.

      Why so? Sweden, Spain, Portugal and Argentina made very good money in both world wars.
      1. +4
        26 June 2020 23: 18
        They forgot about Switzerland, Aron. hi
        I wonder how much the United States would butt the Japanese in China without the participation of the USSR? With this participation, Stalin could write off all lenl-lease, because the Japanese did not attack us.
        1. 0
          26 June 2020 23: 31
          Quote: Kasym
          They forgot about Switzerland, Aron. hi
          I wonder how much the United States would butt the Japanese in China without the participation of the USSR? With this participation, Stalin could write off all lenl-lease, because the Japanese did not attack us.

          They were not going to China at all. They planned a landing in Japan.
          1. +1
            27 June 2020 19: 52
            We did not intend to, because the USSR promised to do this.
            I do not believe that they wanted to land in Japan and deceived the hands of the Soviet Union. They are already in September 1944. planned to attack Japan with atomic weapons - this was discussed between Churchill and Roosevelt in London. Let me remind you that the Yalta Conference took place in February 1945, where the decision was made on the participation of the USSR in the war with the Japanese.
            Okinawa and Iwo Jima were before the USSR entered the war with Japan.hi
  7. +15
    26 June 2020 14: 15
    let them talk about financial assistance to the Nazis before and after the start of the war, the main beneficiaries of this war were US corporations and banks, even after all empires successfully self-reset, bankers threw credit back to everyone
  8. +23
    26 June 2020 14: 16
    Damn, and the concept of a Lend-Lease program was poorly read to the American? Payment only surviving equipment. Here for the amount of ours butted. As a result, from Lard to 200 million, it seems, they reduced it. Everyone paid. The American, along the way, at birth just dropped out of his mother. Head on the concrete floor.
    PS 11 Lard - full supply. At the American expense.
    1. +5
      26 June 2020 14: 32
      Damn, and the concept of a Lend-Lease program was poorly read to the American?

      That's it! I also wanted to write about this, you got ahead of me. The author of this opus is another hollow-blower who heard a ringing ... but he turned out to be a m ... ringing!
    2. -8
      26 June 2020 16: 58
      Total supply value $ 11 billion
      Of these, according to the Lend Lisa concept, paying only for what they themselves wanted to leave, taking into account depreciation, had to be 2,6 billion in 1945 prices (there was no need to pay for property spent, destroyed or returned).
      Americans immediately knocked off half.
      But as a result, about 50 million dollars out of the required 50 billion were returned to the Americans after inflation in 2.6 years (that is, 11 million were actually returned from 50 billion).
      At 2006 prices, adjusted for inflation, total Lend Lease shipments totaled about $ 160 billion, 722 were returned.
      Interest on debt was not even calculated on inflation.
      Translated into Russian, nothing was returned, except for a purely symbolic amount.
      1. 0
        26 June 2020 18: 31
        Quote: Avior
        Translated into Russian, nothing was returned, except for a purely symbolic amount.

        This is about how to buy goods in Soviet times, and pay for it with today's rubles 1: 1 by the amount of the check. smile
  9. +8
    26 June 2020 14: 17
    So, Michael Bohm declares that Putin “forgot to tell the following”: the USA “wrote off the lion's share of Lend-Lease debt, the total amount of which amounted to about $ 11 billion”

    This is where the whole American ideology is concentrated. This clown warmed up on TV in Moscow did not bother to imagine how much time and soldiers' (moreover, American) lives were saved by our Manchurian strategic offensive operation. For her alone, the United States had to write off the entire "Lend-Lease" addressed to the USSR and give it "tasty drinks" laughing our whole group at the end of days. This is if the topic is approached in good faith. But instead of Bohm's conscience, in any case, something else has grown.
    1. +6
      26 June 2020 14: 30
      He saved lives are not interested. But the money - very much so. Americos!
  10. +4
    26 June 2020 14: 18
    And that Bombushka did not tell that the United States, for example, demanded the return of warships and boats, cars and armored vehicles transferred along Lend-Lease but survived the war. Moreover, the cars were taken according to the act and then were destroyed on the spot, the boats were drowned, unlike the others, they really forgave LL.
    The fact that the lion's share of Lend-Lease went no earlier than 1943, when the Soviet Union ALREADY turned the tide of the war.
    It would not hurt to talk about the oncoming Lend-Lease.
    1. +3
      26 June 2020 14: 31
      Who to tell? To the Americans? Will they agree to listen?
    2. +2
      26 June 2020 15: 14
      Quote: Cyril G ...

      The fact that the lion's share of Lend-Lease went no earlier than 1943, when the Soviet Union ALREADY turned the tide of the war.
      It would not hurt to talk about the oncoming Lend-Lease.

      Actually, it could not be otherwise. The US at 41 had just begun to turn up military production. I'm not saying that their entry into the war in December 41 was also not very planned. Back in 1940, the entire US tank fleet consisted of 400 light tanks which were inferior in quality to the BT-5. So 42 years was a difficult one not only for us. The U.S. Army and Navy in the Pacific suffered defeat after defeat. They had to not only help us and Britain, but also to create their own armed forces that could operate on two remote fronts. I’m not talking about the logistics of all this. Imagine only the scope of shipbuilding necessary for the transfer of the army, its supply and supplies to the allies.
      1. +2
        26 June 2020 18: 39
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Actually, it could not be otherwise. The US at 41 had just begun to turn up military production.

        Plus the problems of logistics. Papanin recalled how he raked the rubble on the Northern Route - when the next convoy met on the quays loads from the previous convoy.
        The southern route (Iran) was even worse - the Trans-Iranian corridor was broken only in 1943. Moreover, the British who undertook it initially filled up the work and were forced to transfer first the front of the work, and then the responsibility for the route to the Americans.
        The eastern route was limited by the capacity of the USSR cargo fleet for maintenance, the capabilities of ports and the Trans-Siberian Railway. Plus the Japanese.
    3. +5
      26 June 2020 15: 26
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      cars and armored vehicles transmitted through Lend-Lease but survived the war

      I remember how Dad swore picking Studders to send to the states! And they demanded a complete set! And where to get all this - more than 10 years have passed since the end of the war! I don’t know how they turned out. Military unit 11011 - driving school.
  11. +8
    26 June 2020 14: 18
    So, Michael Bohm declares that Putin “forgot to report the following”

    And M. Bohm himself did not "forget to tell" how much the United States had invested in the economy of the Third Reich.
    1. bar
      +1
      26 June 2020 14: 39
      And M. Bohm himself did not "forget to tell" how much the United States had invested in the economy of the Third Reich.

      Germany remembers this. Therefore, he runs in stripes on a short leash.
  12. +2
    26 June 2020 14: 18
    Maybe it’s worth telling how the arrogant politicians were silent when the Nazis crushed such a cozy European woman for themselves and were silent when their protege Hitler became the leader? And can you tell in connection with what they entered the Second World War at the very end and refused to help the Soviet People in the fight against these reptiles? How did you come to the end of the war and cover the floor of a European woman? And how did they sponsor everyone (from money to raw materials and weapons) to Hitler and his army?
    Much can be said, but they do not need it. Normal and thinking people need to tell and prove, in the West this is not and is not expected in the near future. So why react to the hollow breeds of this biomass?
    The main thing that we would not forget, nothing and nobody !!!
    1. +1
      26 June 2020 15: 02
      Quote: Olegater
      Maybe it’s worth telling how the arrogant politicians were silent when the Nazis crushed such a cozy European woman for themselves and were silent when their protege Hitler became the leader?

      I wonder who paid how much the Soviet Union paid for the liberation of Europe.
  13. -2
    26 June 2020 14: 18
    They had a choice, either to smell a cookie, or to write off what they didn’t have time to take from their former friendship, although they hell, they were embarrassed by the people.
  14. -5
    26 June 2020 14: 31
    why, then, the American journalist does not recall the gold that was exported to the United States during the formation of Soviet Russia,

    What is it about commercial purchases of equipment, technologies, projects and entire factories?
  15. bar
    +2
    26 June 2020 14: 37
    "Wrote off the lion's share of debt under Lend-Lease, the total amount of which amounted to about 11 billion dollars"

    Mr. Bom forgot to read Wikipedia.
    The volume of US deliveries under Lend-Lease amounted to about $ 10,8 billion. According to the Lend-Lease Act, only equipment that survived the war was payable ... In the United States, it was initially calculated that the amount payable for surviving civilian vehicles and equipment, taking into account their depreciation, was 2,6 billion.

    At the same time, part of the surviving equipment was returned to the United States. So, as a result of negotiations, the amount was halved to 1,3 yards.
    1. +1
      26 June 2020 21: 24
      The amount of 2,6 billion is already after ours returned everything that they considered necessary
      The Americans made a discount on wear and tear on what they wanted to leave themselves, and that's how it turned out the amount of 2.6 billion
      From this amount, the Americans immediately without any negotiations, the States immediately dropped half.
      And so it turned out 1,3 billion
      And only then ours began to bargain
  16. 0
    26 June 2020 14: 42
    According to Bohm, in Russia "the popular myth is still flourishing that the USSR completely paid with gold for deliveries on lend-lease."

    I would read whether the conditions of Lend-Lease - you had to pay only that part of the delivered property that was not used / destroyed in wartime, not transferred back after the war and remained suitable for civilian use. The USSR considered the property worth 340 million as such a part, the mattresses claimed 820, while refusing to take back part of the military property, presumably 270 lyam,оmost of this was distributed among the countries of the socialist camp. Later, the mattresses themselves withdrew their claims on their own initiative. The USSR paid the entire undisputed amount in full and with metallic gold. Do these test tubes bombs ...
    1. +2
      26 June 2020 15: 01
      Quote: KelWin
      Do these test tubes bombs ...

      Kneeling in a Chinese bazaar.
      1. +1
        27 June 2020 04: 58
        Vlad, look how offended they were at the test tubes ...)) Boma’s agents))) at least someone said something wrong ...
        1. +1
          27 June 2020 09: 45
          Quote: KelWin
          Vlad, look how offended they were at the test tubes ...)) Boma agents

          Uncle Sam's adepts will work off their "bucks", and maybe ideological ones, they just love Bomov.
  17. -6
    26 June 2020 14: 43
    Indeed, the United States wrote off (forgiven) most of the Lend-Lease debt to us. However, not only to us.
    What does the reference to damage from the intervention have to do with it? it’s about the second world war!
    And the secret protocols of other countries with Germany are only the author’s imagination. Would - would have been presented for a long time. The same Poles were communist for 45 years and the old government oh how they did not like it)))
  18. -2
    26 June 2020 14: 59
    According to Bohm, in Russia "the popular myth is still flourishing that the USSR completely paid with gold for deliveries on lend-lease."
    The Soviet Union had to pay blood for all. Therefore, both the West and the United States forever owe to the Soviet Union.
    1. +5
      26 June 2020 15: 50
      we saved ourselves! SE-BYA! your homeland!
      not west!
      and they don’t owe us anything
      like us to them
      1. +1
        26 June 2020 18: 01
        Quote: AndyLW
        we saved ourselves! SE-BYA! your homeland!
        not west!
        and they don’t owe us anything
        like us to them

        You are talking about that again, and I am writing for the hundredth time that we liberated the whole of Europe from the Nazis and the loss of the USSR over a million people, and how to count it? And the West is now even demolishing our monuments, that's gratitude. And you, "The West owes us nothing!"
        1. +4
          26 June 2020 20: 12
          but what do you think, if we reached the state borders of the USSR and stopped, Hitler would stop fighting with us?
          What kind of nonsense?
          We beat the enemy everywhere, until victory, not for the West, but for ourselves.
          And nobody owes us anything for our victory.
          And why our monuments were not demolished before, but are now demolished? think ...
          1. -3
            26 June 2020 20: 15
            Quote: AndyLW
            We beat the enemy everywhere, until victory, not for the West, but for ourselves.

            For MYSELF, our fathers and grandfathers beat on their territory, and for whom the brother of my grandfather, who fell on the Zeelovsky Heights and Uncle Kostya died in Hungary, fought for. I don’t understand this.
            1. +6
              26 June 2020 20: 35
              Quote: tihonmarine
              I don’t understand this.

              it’s bad that you don’t understand this.
              The soldiers who were dying in Berlin for their homeland understood why they were there.
              and wrote on the shells "for Stalingrad", "for Kiev" and not "for Budapest" and not "for Warsaw"
            2. +2
              28 June 2020 04: 48
              Ah, you are a rat ... Meet me in my life, I’ll smear your face on the asphalt. Maybe Leningrad should have passed? And what less victims ... you filthy.
              Again in a ban, but I cannot leave such bullshit without an answer.
          2. +1
            27 June 2020 05: 05
            Quote: AndyLW
            And why our monuments were not demolished before, but are now demolished?

            But because fear is lost. And the only way to correct this wrong worldview is to demolish the tower once more. So we still may well have the honor of becoming worthy of the memory of grandfathers. It depends on when in the celestial spheres they fight ....
            1. +1
              27 June 2020 09: 57
              Quote: KelWin
              But because fear is lost. And the only way to correct this wrong worldview is to demolish the tower once more.

              That the ungrateful children of the courtyard lost their fear, that's for sure. Their attitude to the liberation of Europe, in my opinion on the site, only "the rookies do not know." But since their tail has already been shortened, and they command them, it means they need to be chopped off to the end. The guys are overwhelmed, they forgot 1945. See the latest statement by Merkil and the European Union, "to extend the sanctions against Russia." And what does it look like ??? NOT Yankees speak, but Europeans in robes of the color of the sky. Time passed after 1945, the wounds were licked, the tail was raised, and again the same songs "Russia threatens us, drang nah ost" sang. So release them or not release them, but you still have to hit the muzzle again.
              1. -1
                27 June 2020 14: 18
                Quote: tihonmarine
                once again have to beat the face.

                for what? for songs and monuments?
                did you want blood again?
                you attack - you yourself will become Hitler
  19. +1
    26 June 2020 15: 00
    This Bohm should have been kicked to the Canadian border.
    And with the Americans to demand an answer for helping Hitler in the formation of the military industry and much more.
    Negotiations between Daless and Wolf, we also did not forget.
  20. +2
    26 June 2020 15: 04
    Finally, there’s no discussion ... Ugh Mr. Bom on you ... ugh again ...
  21. 0
    26 June 2020 15: 15
    While they sat there overseas and Hitler financed earning money from it, the USSR was counting on millions of people, the capitalists were filthy, no one owed you anything.
  22. +1
    26 June 2020 15: 16
    As far as I know from the conversations of the elders, in fact, all deliveries had to be returned or paid. And so their studebakers rotted and much more in the ports - they needed money (gold). I do not like Americans, it is a nation of hucksters and money-grubbers. Americans, you will forgive me if that ... Or don’t forgive me - I’ll get it.
    1. +1
      27 June 2020 05: 14
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      And so their studebakers rotted and much more in the ports - they needed money (gold)

      So for sure, to return what was left, to pay for what was left for civilian needs. But, of course, these nonsense wanted gold, what for they rusty scrap ... So we broke them off honestly, but this can not be recognized - the manual is not written that way ..)).
  23. -1
    26 June 2020 15: 26
    The President of Russia noted that Russia has become virtually the only state that has opened the archives of the pre-war years.

    Not true. Not all documents are declassified; documents relating to World War II are generally classified for the most part.
    1. +1
      26 June 2020 16: 27
      And in the most seemingly simple things.
      For example, a person wondering why the famous partisans Saburov or Kovpak became Heroes of the Soviet Union will quickly find out that they and many others are excluded from the award databases.
      There is a line of order, but no award sheets.
      1. 0
        27 June 2020 05: 46
        Sergey, it’s not so simple there - the title of Hero was awarded by the Supreme Council, and the award sheets were signed at the level of the army general. The partisans did not formally belong to any army structure, and, accordingly, could not receive award sheets. The grandfather did not have any awards either, although he was a holder of the Order of Lenin and the Red Star of the 2nd and 3rd degree, among other things. Grachev Sergey Vasilievich, born in 1924
        1. -2
          27 June 2020 09: 06
          The award list is always and without fail, compiled by the structure that represents the award with a description of the feat and can not be otherwise.
          And for your grandfather they are for sure, it is not clear only what you had in mind with the degrees of the Red Star. I didn’t find your grandfather in the lists, can you throw the link?
          1. +1
            27 June 2020 11: 04
            Right now, we are sitting with my wife thinking like this, in theory there should be sheets, but we never saw them. There were order books, for sure, but there were no sheets. Regarding these nuances with the partisans, I have heard from my father more than once, I remember this moment well, there was something with pensions at the turn of the 90s. In general, no one ever bothered with this issue, but now it has become wildly interesting - I’ll get to my mother, I’ll be sure to rummage through the papers, I promise to report the result. With links (to what? ..), I won’t help in anything, I’m not an archivist and not a historian, I have no idea where it is all written down, but I held all my grandfather’s awards, including and both stars and the other a dozen.
            1. +2
              27 June 2020 11: 36
              The award sheets are not handed out, they are stored in archives, and you couldn’t have them at your home.
              Now the archives for award documents are digitized and laid out for public access, like some other Documents relating to personnel.
              You can watch on the sites Memory of the People and Feat of the People, for example,

              http://podvignaroda.ru/?#tab=navHome

              indicate the name and year of birth there, then select the place of conscription in the list, if called up.
              There will be either scans of award documents or a link to a sheet in the archive, and then you can order a copy. In the award sheet there will be a brief description of what specifically awarded
              hi
              1. +1
                27 June 2020 11: 43
                Ah, here it is. I get it. Thank you very much for the explanation, otherwise we almost panic))
    2. +1
      27 June 2020 17: 31
      Quote: professor
      Not all documents are declassified; documents relating to World War II are generally classified for the most part.

      And in what country are they declassified?
  24. +1
    26 June 2020 15: 26
    American journalist: Putin forgot to report in the article that the USA wrote off the main debt of the USSR under Lend-Lease

    It would also be nice to write down how much gold they received, as well as how many works of art they exported from countries, etc., as well as ask a question about the supply of materials and spare parts to the Reich at the time we fought with him ... I can continue for a long time ...
    1. +2
      26 June 2020 16: 23
      If you continue about how the States supplied Germany with oil, and the Germans didn’t sink the MS Standard Oil tankers in response, then this fake is very primitive and has long been debunked by real facts.
      And if you can write about the case, it would be interesting to read the facts, not your hints.
    2. +3
      26 June 2020 18: 40
      Quote: Pacifist
      as well as ask a question about the supply of the Reich with materials and spare parts at the time when we fought with him

      Better not. And then Britain may also ask a question on the subject of the Soviet Union supplying the Reich with materials and spare parts at the time when they fought with it.
  25. qaz
    0
    26 June 2020 15: 32
    This bom is so ...
  26. 0
    26 June 2020 15: 32
    Bear Bom is another shot. He would be in “Full House” or to Petrosyan, he would have made a career.
  27. 0
    26 June 2020 15: 34
    Putin "forgot" because the lend-lease charity was provided in conjunction with the same assistance to Germany, which rebuilt its power for a war with the USSR with the aim of mutual destruction, which actually happened. But to say this means a new war in the global discussion, which will tear everyone and everything, including the United States. All such "discussions" are based on deliberate lies, which are being promoted as a worldwide standard. After WW2, the States became everything, while others - nothing. At the same time, it turns out xy from xy in this thread.
  28. Lew
    -1
    26 June 2020 15: 58
    and where does his wife look? no matter how, Russian woman ..
  29. 0
    26 June 2020 16: 16
    . Or would you still have to count?

    It would be interesting to see such a count
    Only serious, with documentary evidence - when, who, how much, and under what conditions?
    And not endless stories about the export of gold in Edinburgh.
    And at the same time, read the dachshund with documentary evidence about the secretary protocols of other countries with Germany, which the author alludes to.
    We will wait for his article on these topics.
  30. +2
    26 June 2020 16: 18
    It is hard to believe that these Koshcheis forgave the debt of the USSR. They would strangle their own mother for $ 5.
  31. +1
    26 June 2020 16: 21
    Bom famous starBom. After all, he once declared that if Germany hadn’t attacked the USSR on June 22.06.1941, 17, then July 1941, XNUMX ????? Stalin planned to attack Germany himself
  32. 0
    26 June 2020 16: 25
    The Great Patriotic War began on June 22, 1941. American Lend-Lease deliveries began to be carried out only in December 1941, when the Nazi troops were already defeated near Moscow. Thus, for half a year the Red Army fought one on one with the Wehrmacht, and in fact with the armed forces of all of continental Europe. Does this bom know about this? Or can he only sew flags from different rags of colored fabric?
  33. HAM
    +3
    26 June 2020 16: 37
    And why does he not remember how much the states and England owe us: if the Red Army had not intervened (at the request of the allies), the Germans would have pinched the soldiers of Europe's "liberators" for sure ... The Red Army was forced to launch an offensive almost without preparation, having paid with the lives of soldiers ... .The lost lives of the Red Army are nothing for them ...
    It’s a pity that Bomu wasn’t filled with a face in a chat show ...
    1. +3
      26 June 2020 17: 04
      Quote: HAM
      And why does he not remember how much the states and England owe us: if the Red Army had not intervened (at the request of the allies), the Germans would have pinched the soldiers of the "liberators" of Europe ...


      The Germans would have simply defeated them, and the rest would have been thrown into the English Channel.
  34. +4
    26 June 2020 17: 02
    What the West and people like Mr. Bom are trying to do.


    Mr. Bom has been living in Russia for many years, earns money here and no one knows him as a journalist in the USA ...
  35. +3
    26 June 2020 17: 15
    "A number of politicians out of habit hastened to declare that Russia is trying to rewrite history. However, they could not refute a single fact, not a single argument. Of course, it is difficult, and even impossible, to argue with the original documents, which, by the way, are not kept. only in Russian, but also in foreign archives. " Let the gentlemen Europeans present documents from their archives and then we will look xy from xy. "Great Britain and the USA. Their financial and industrial circles very actively invested in German factories and plants that produced military products." After reading this, America, represented by Bohm, decided to somehow justify itself, or rather to lie again. Russia finally paid off on August 21, 2006. How America will forgive the debt.
  36. +1
    26 June 2020 17: 35
    Of course, for the United States, the question of money is the most important! As they say: war of wars, and they love money. But not everything is measured in money! Because of this approach, many do not like the United States.
  37. +3
    26 June 2020 17: 38
    Yeah, wait, the stripes will write off, then they will write again. At first I took this eccentric to the letter M for normal, then I realized - a chatterbox.
  38. +2
    26 June 2020 17: 47
    Whatever they say, American Lend-Lease supplies helped a lot in the war, saved millions of our soldiers and reduced the time of the war. Thanks to America for this and you should not bicker anyone who owes. People’s lives are more expensive than ammunition.
  39. +2
    26 June 2020 18: 21
    America pulled out of Russia after the restructuring, directly or indirectly enough for several lend-leases. Only the sale of 500 tons of uranium is worth it. And even now, despite the sanctions, the disguised export of raw materials and finances from the territory of Russia in favor of our overseas "partners" continues.
  40. +1
    26 June 2020 18: 29
    Bohm hears a jingle, but does not know where he is ... laughing lol tongue

    Evening ringing, bom bom .. Evening ringing, bom bom ...
    How many thoughts, bom-bom .. He brings, bom-bom ... laughing drinks
  41. 0
    26 June 2020 18: 47
    so how much did the USSR pay out of 11 billion lendlizovskih dollars?
  42. +2
    26 June 2020 19: 12
    Better to tell how Hitler’s fsh was supported both before the war and during.
  43. +1
    26 June 2020 19: 18
    For this Lend-Lease they were heading big, and not only in gold, this allowed the Soviet Union to break the Third Reich, and the United States to overcome the crisis.
  44. +1
    26 June 2020 19: 26
    And the USA "wrote off" the USSR 27 million people. Immediately after the war, the US ambassador to the USSR wrote a memo to Washington, in which he assesses the consequences of the blow that was inflicted on the USSR, and writes that the USSR will no longer be able to recover. But the United States has become the leading superpower, controlling up to 70% of the world's gold reserves.
  45. +1
    26 June 2020 20: 28
    How much more time, this fag, will we hang around in Russia ?! Isn't it time to throw him back to pin Dostan ?!
  46. -7
    26 June 2020 21: 29
    the sofas were revived, the scrapers fastened together ... no one helped us to get it and turned out to be runny 7% it was the whole lend-lease (written off later almost at 0, but that is) yay .... and the industry of Germany destroyed at 0 not the brave Stalinist falcons, as they forgot, and the grub of the 2nd front, too, and the full motorization of the army after the nightmare 41 too .. everyone forgot how much the wolf did not feed gratitude on the rain, dare the soldiers of sofas, dream and do not deny yourself anything)) )
  47. +1
    26 June 2020 22: 07
    Yes, not a damn USA written off!
    After the war, the USSR and the United States diverged in assessments of the cost of assistance provided by Lend-Lease as much as 8 times! Stalin naturally immediately stopped making payments until the issue of the cost of lend-lease was resolved.
    They returned to this question only under Brezhnev. At that time, the amount of debt under Lendliz was fixed at twice as much as the USSR estimates (and, correspondingly, four times less than the US estimates), but including all accrued and future interest, and a payment schedule was agreed upon. The USSR managed to make only a few payments, and then another deterioration in relations with the US came and debt payments were frozen again.
    After the collapse of the USSR, Lend-Lease debts were hanged on Russia, like all other USSR debts, in exchange for transferring all the USSR foreign property to it (what did Putin say recently that not all property was actually returned to Russia?) . The USA, taught that with any cooling of relations between Russia and the USSR freezes the payment of debts on lend-lease, they sold all these debts to the London and Paris lender clubs.
    In 2004, after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, the United States faced the problem of Iraq's Soviet debts. Putin agreed with the United States that Russia would write off these debts, and in exchange, the United States would help us agree with the London and Paris clubs of lenders to pay off our debts ahead of schedule, which in theory should save us comparable amounts in interest. We fulfilled our part of the transaction and all debts to Iraq were written off, but the USA, after the cancellation was written off, began to bustle and sided with the London and Paris Club of creditors demanding compensation for early repayment. As a result, the sums saved were many times less than those that we expected. But one way or another, in 2011, Russia repaid all debts to the London and Paris lenders' clubs ahead of schedule, including loan lending.
    So there is no question of writing off anything!
  48. 0
    26 June 2020 22: 44
    Not recognizing the help of the Allies is a meanness. The only thing this teaches us - the worst War on Earth - is that you can only cope with Beda together.
    And I’ll also say - if we do not forget their feat, they will not forget ours.
    1. +2
      27 June 2020 00: 17
      In general, I agree with you, only here is the problem, they have long forgotten!
      1. 0
        27 June 2020 00: 52
        I judge individuals through personal contacts. For the Americans, the British. According to the French - to those who knew personally, or at least heard about the Normandy-Niemen fighters. Believe me, not everything is lost.
  49. +3
    27 June 2020 00: 02
    No wonder. We are too different on this Planet. Americans (including Bohm) count money. And we consider those who died in this war.
    - "The Red Army saved tens of thousands of lives: what role did the USSR play in the Ardennes operation"
    “On January 3, 1945, the Allies launched a full-scale offensive, however, in order for it not to end in disaster, they needed support. On January 5 and 6, Winston Churchill sent Joseph Stalin desperate requests to go on the offensive on the Eastern Front. ”
    “If we evaluate the situation fairly, then the Red Army, having launched an offensive on the Eastern Front ahead of time in the most difficult conditions for itself, rendered a great service to the Allies and saved tens of thousands of lives of American and British soldiers”
    And how much THEY owe us, who either calculated or not?
  50. +2
    27 June 2020 00: 09
    my opinion Putin did not write a historical work (a monograph), so he did not mention Lend-Lease, and they don’t have to remember a lot about WW2 either. On the other hand, it is foolish to deny that the Lend assistance was serious, to remember only the Studebakers.
  51. 0
    27 June 2020 00: 18
    those. you didn’t help us, but profited from the grief of the Soviet people? So let's write it down
    1. +1
      27 June 2020 01: 27
      I agree here that the blood of Soviet soldiers cannot be valued in dollars. But even the iron helped a lot. Pokryshkin and his regiment (more than one) fought in Cobras. One of the tank corps that took Berlin fought in Shermans.
      1. 0
        27 June 2020 05: 01
        Quote: Poppy Admiral
        poppy admiral (novel) Today, 01:27
        0
        I agree here that the blood of Soviet soldiers cannot be valued in dollars. But even the iron helped a lot. Pokryshkin and his regiment (more than one) fought in Cobras. One of the tank corps that took Berlin fought in Shermans.


        He would take it, but who would pour gasoline for him?
        Pokryshkin didn’t fight in the Cobra, my dear. He tested it at the personal request of American designers. Because they couldn’t put their own people there. Deadly dangerous.
        Clean the glass beads, white man. Otherwise no one will buy it and you will die of hunger.
  52. +2
    27 June 2020 04: 52
    Don’t lie, dear servant of the CIA, the United States did not write off anything for Lend-Lise payments to the USSR. Which the United States provided by signing an obligation to provide free of charge. Only then did the United States refuse the signed agreements and demand payment, with interest. Complete.
    What's really funny is not that the US has violated its obligations, but that the US, like a banal bandit who is afraid that people will find out that he is stealing, hires lackeys like this author to lie about the state is a bandit, that it is actually very magnanimous.
    But the king is naked!
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 07: 21
      Quote: Miron
      Don’t lie, dear servant of the CIA, the United States did not write off anything for Lend-Lise payments to the USSR. Which the United States provided by signing an obligation to provide free of charge. Only then did the United States refuse the signed agreements and demand payment, with interest. Complete.
      What's really funny is not that the US has violated its obligations, but that the US, like a banal bandit who is afraid that people will find out that he is stealing, hires lackeys like this author to lie about the state is a bandit, that it is actually very magnanimous.
      But the king is naked!

      Phenomenal lie.
  53. 0
    27 June 2020 06: 22
    The American journalist, like Putin, forgot to mention who prepared Hitler for war.
  54. 0
    27 June 2020 08: 19
    The Americans still owe us for the royal gold they received in the First World War. And they robbed Europe very badly the second time...
  55. 0
    27 June 2020 11: 41
    Thus, Michael Bohm states that Putin “forgot to report the following”: the United States “wrote off the lion’s share of the Lend-Lease debt, the total amount of which was about $11 billion.”

    Michael Bohm forgot to report the following about Lend-Lease: after the victory, the USSR returns the money to the United States for the remaining equipment or returns this equipment. I was told by people who saw this return. The Americans accepted the Studebakers down to the last screw, loaded them onto the ship and put them under pressure there. Financial issues were completely closed under Brezhnev.
  56. 0
    27 June 2020 11: 47
    Of course Bom is lying, he hit his head and it turned out to be a bom...mm.
  57. +1
    27 June 2020 14: 16
    The USSR received all supplies from the United States for free under Lend-Lease. The USSR was obliged to return serviceable equipment to the USA after the victory. We paid for this unreturned equipment in gold. No one has any complaints. In turn, the United States traded with Hitler before landing its troops in Normandy in 44...
  58. +1
    27 June 2020 16: 49
    Bom, what are you talking about? fool The secret Molotov-Ribbetrope Pact was condemned in 1989 by the 2nd Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR. Who and when condemned the Munich Agreement?

    Lend-Lease - yes, it was significant help, but you need to understand that it was the United States’ way of fighting Hitler with the wrong hands. How was it even possible to demand repayment of the debt for this? If Hitler had captured the USSR with its unlimited resources, the United States would have had no chance to resist him. That’s why they helped because they understood this. Purely selfish interest.
  59. wow
    +1
    27 June 2020 18: 26
    As the Airborne Forces sergeant asked, Michael, show me your wallet!? And in it, “Bomovsky” - rubles... So what!???
  60. +1
    27 June 2020 19: 47
    Meet Michael Bohm,
    American blockhead.
    He will object, if necessary,
    Professional parasite.
  61. 0
    27 June 2020 20: 23
    There is no point in talking about morality to these gentlemen. Yes, the Americans paid off for three years from 41 to 44 from the real war in Europe. And the USSR signed the Lend-Lease supply agreement in the most difficult conditions for 41 years, there was no time for bidding. It was necessary to fill the gap and instead of the lost (I won’t remind you whose fault it was) tanks and planes, it was necessary to stop the enemy with real aircraft and armored vehicles.

    But according to available documents, both with us and with England, the conditions were such - what was killed/lost in battles was excluded from the calculation of refundable amounts. After the war, ours bargained with the former. allies for a long time, but agreed on some kind of compromise. And the question was closed. And the USSR did not claim the “Marshal Plan” after the war wassat
  62. +1
    27 June 2020 22: 30
    I’ve been following this Bim for a long time, and I realized who should be next to him!
    This is a man with red hair with a Bim shoulder strap! I remember this couple from childhood - Bim and Bom, two clowns! You can easily find a match for him from the American administration! There are only clowns there!
  63. 0
    27 June 2020 23: 36
    Isn’t this the debt that was hushed up so that the USSR would not keep for itself everything that it had won before Berlin in Yalta, then they discussed it or not?
  64. 0
    28 June 2020 01: 33
    Why doesn’t this Bom mention those trillions of dollars that were exported during the management of the Liberda and continue to be exported - remember Medvedev’s “budget rule”. Now they seem to have slowed down due to force majeure.
  65. 0
    28 June 2020 01: 40
    I wonder if Michael knows why the Lend-Lease debt was written off? Or remind him? Apparently he doesn’t know that there was such a submarine Kursk! (((Blessed memory!!!!
  66. 0
    28 June 2020 05: 52
    Our ancestors paid for everything with their lives! Hundreds of thousands of Americans, including this journalist, might not have been born...
    1. 0
      28 June 2020 05: 58
      Quote: sagitch
      Our ancestors paid for everything, with their lives, for the lives they saved..., thousands of American lives.

      You probably forget that the Americans had their own war and the pits did not go to the Far East because they were closely at war with America.
      Secondly, did you pay?
      And if America had not made up Lend-Lisa, so the USSR would not have fought?
      1. 0
        28 June 2020 11: 33
        Yes, I know and remember everything and everyone... That’s why I speak out!
  67. +1
    28 June 2020 07: 40
    Quote: Avior
    Total supply value $ 11 billion
    Of these, according to the Lend Lisa concept, paying only for what they themselves wanted to leave, taking into account depreciation, had to be 2,6 billion in 1945 prices (there was no need to pay for property spent, destroyed or returned).
    Americans immediately knocked off half.
    But as a result, about 50 million dollars out of the required 50 billion were returned to the Americans after inflation in 2.6 years (that is, 11 million were actually returned from 50 billion).
    At 2006 prices, adjusted for inflation, total Lend Lease shipments totaled about $ 160 billion, 722 were returned.
    Interest on debt was not even calculated on inflation.
    Translated into Russian, nothing was returned, except for a purely symbolic amount.

    Past
    Considering Our losses and contribution in general to the destruction of the Nazi empire, and Their purely nominal participation in the final stage of the war, let’s be frank, to the end (like the British and the French) - let them say thank you for this.
    How many of them died there compared to ours, huh?
    What kind of large-scale operations did they carry out, successful ones, huh?
    In memory of the Ardennes, and even then they received spiritual tinsel from the already agonizing troops of the Reich.
    And the “Allied landing”, from the point of view of military science, went very wrong.
    The temporary detention center is not zeroed out for you, it was not content with sheer concerns, condemnations and bewilderments, it could easily put in the place of presumptuous mongrels.
    Well, we should not forget that those same Americans are inveterate hucksters.
    They will always inflate the price without any adequate prerequisites (Apple is a prime example, but the majority of people are now stupid, and it still works).
    Simply put, you can increase the price as much as you want, but you won’t get more than the buyer is willing to pay, and how much he values ​​your “help.”
    So it’s time for them to close the blather with their claims long ago.
  68. 0
    28 June 2020 08: 04
    They posted a fake and are thinking of making money from it. Russia doesn't owe anyone! America is the biggest debtor. Nothing soon the world will get rid of dollar toilet paper that is not backed by anything!
  69. 0
    28 June 2020 13: 24
    As Comrade Stalin said: “This is your contribution to our Victory!” Be proud of your help!
  70. 0
    28 June 2020 14: 24
    When the clown Bom comes up, don’t expect the truth, there are fake tears and fake laughter... But everyone diligently began to pick apart the topic, and the main thing is that this “independent journalist” needs a livelihood, and he didn’t find anything better , to replenish the balance of your credit card, than to use, by the way, the very controversial topic mentioned just now by the President of the Russian Federation, the topic of the countries’ contribution to the Victory in WWII, focusing on the imaginary contribution rather than the actual one. Such articles from figures like Bom and, naturally, from himself are not worth a damn.
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