The network discusses the smoking BTR "Boomerang" returning from the parade on Red Square

After the parade on Red Square, a column of military equipment returned to its base. Driving along Moscow streets, the latest K-17 Boomerang armored personnel carrier suddenly became smokeless. Thick white-blue smoke suddenly poured out of the car. They covered a section of the street on which spectators turned up watching the passage of equipment.

This event with the booming Bumerang armored personnel carrier sparked a discussion on the net.

The event took place in the North-Western District of Moscow. Passing the intersection of Mnevniki and Demyan Poor, Strelka, the APC suddenly began to smoke heavily. After 100-150 meters, he stopped. While the armored personnel carrier was waiting for help, the crew was nearby. Soon, a special military tow truck drove up to the problem armored car and took it in tow. It is hypothesized that an engine failure due to overheating could occur.

Military expert Alexei Khlopotov wrote on his blog about another reason why a breakdown could happen. He suggested that an emergency operation of the thermal smoke equipment (TDA), designed to create smoke screens, occurred. The expert believes that this equipment could be turned on accidentally. Also, a malfunction, for example, a loss of tightness or a break in the pipeline, could become the reason for its unexpected operation.

But if we are talking about the accidental inclusion of smoke screens, it is unlikely that in this case it would be necessary to tow an armored personnel carrier.

It is worth noting that a similar case occurred with a tank T-90S in Nizhny Tagil in 2003 during an arms exhibition.

Comments

[kamui91]

Well, not on the square he died, already a success.

[vkl.47]

This is news for Alex hamsters. For them this is a whole holiday.

[Tatyana]

Quote: kamui91

Well, not on the square he died, already a success.

Ha! Yeah! Everything we have is somehow not quite "Thank God!"
Either the APC after a parade on the street suddenly became smokeless, the soldier with a fool of glass in the FSB car broke before the parade ...

[Thompson]

without your "HA" it would be sarcasm. And so, well-deserved disadvantages. Mine, too, by the way exactly for ha

[1976AG]

Quote: Tatiana

Quote: kamui91

Well, not on the square he died, already a success.

Ha! Yeah! Everything we have is somehow not quite "Thank God!"
Either the APC after a parade on the street suddenly became smokeless, the soldier with a fool of glass in the FSB car broke before the parade ...

But in the states everything is fine - either planes fall one after another, then riots are such that it is necessary to introduce an army into the cities.

[Tatyana]

Quote: 1976AG

But in the states everything is fine - either planes fall one after another, then riots are such that it is necessary to introduce an army into the cities.

Well, you have found something to compare! Think limitedly. Namely.

Ever since the days of Suvorov and Kutuzov it is known that if you want to have a VICTORY army, then prepare CAREFULLY for a peacetime war! And not only to military battles, but also to the MILITARY PARADES!

[1976AG]

Quote: Tatiana

Quote: 1976AG

But in the states everything is fine - either planes fall one after another, then riots are such that it is necessary to introduce an army into the cities.

Well, you have found something to compare! Think limitedly. Namely.

Ever since the days of Suvorov and Kutuzov it is known that if you want to have a VICTORY army, then prepare CAREFULLY for a peacetime war! And not only to military battles, but also to the MILITARY PARADES!

Your comment is limited to two examples of no strategic importance, so I also did not rant about the influence of moonlight on the growth of telegraph poles.

[Tatyana]

Quote: 1976AG

Your comment is limited to two non-strategic examples,

In a STRATEGIC sense, maybe "yes", these 2 cases on June 24, 2020 in Moscow do not matter.
But in the MORAL-POLITICAL plan on the INTERNATIONAL arena both for Russians and citizens of the "collective West", and for the Russian Federation itself, precisely as a state, this is of HUGE importance!
Gossip in the media and world social "networks" will not get around! It's like a fly in the ointment spoils a whole barrel of honey!
And no matter how much we justify ourselves, the "sediment" from what happened all over the world will still remain!
Do we need this? No, don’t!

I didn’t even write at all that it would be better not to publish this information at all in the media about such things! Yes, as they say, you can’t hide the awl in a bag!

[1976AG]

Why are you all so afraid of the reaction of any international trash ???! You probably live scared? Of course you need to prepare for the parades in a quality manner, but about the HUGE significance of this fact, you have clearly gone too far, you need to look at things more realistically. Any adequate person understands that in life nothing is perfect. And if the parade is all without a hitch, then this is not a guarantee that there will also be a battle, just as an incident at the parade does not mean that the equipment is bad. Well, a pig, she always finds dirt everywhere.

[Tatyana]

Quote: 1976AG
Why are you all so afraid of the reaction of any international trash ???! You probably live scared?
Of course you need to prepare for the parades in a quality manner, but about the HUGE significance of this fact, you have clearly gone too far, you need to look at things more realistically.
Any adequate person understands that in life nothing is perfect. And if the parade is all without a hitch, then this is not a guarantee that there will also be a battle, just as an incident at the parade does not mean that the equipment is bad. Well, a pig, she always finds dirt everywhere.

So we really look at things!

You, apparently, are not a sociologist. It’s bad that our political officers in the troops were removed.

You are Victory Parades in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Victory Parade of the USSR in Moscow 1945 over Nazi Germany in WAR DPR and LPR July 24, 2020 watched?
Why did everything go smoothly and safely with them? And in Moscow it happened with incidents!
Parade parade in its HISTORICAL meaning ROSNE!

It does not matter to you as a techie! And in DIPLOMACY any trifle matters!

[1976AG]

Young lady, maybe enough already hysteria over trifles? You have nothing to do at home? Go better to your husband to cook. Although you as a sociologist, probably this is boring ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: 1976AG

You have nothing to do at home? Go better to your husband to cook. Although you as a sociologist, probably this is boring ...

So after all, for a cooked dinner you can get a negative sociological opinion of her husband

[1976AG]

I explained to you how adequate people and inadequate people evaluate this fact. Adequate will understand correctly, but there is no sense in adapting to inadequate ones. And there is no need to drag diplomacy here, you yourself do not understand anything in it.

[Tatyana]

Quote: 1976AG

I explained to you how adequate people and inadequate people evaluate this fact. Adequate will understand correctly, but there is no sense in adapting to inadequate ones. And there’s no need to drag diplomacy here, you yourself do not understand anything in it.

On the issue of the importance of military diplomacy, I note the following to you. Namely.

The so-called "inadequate" people you abstractly called in Germany in 1941 attacked the USSR, and indeed started WWII in 1938!
And at the same time - which is VERY IMPORTANT (!) - these very "inadequate" abroad, very even at that time, CRUCIFICALLY calculated the range, quantity and technical condition of military equipment in different countries - and primarily in the USSR. And also carefully studied the worldview and morale of the Soviet military and the population of the USSR.

It is strange that you discard these things in your attention. And they are understandable even to a hedgehog!

[1976AG]

You are our hedgehog, let it be known to you that the 2nd World War began in 1939, and not in the 38th. There is a lot of noise from you, but you don’t even know such elementary things !!! And intelligence gathers information about the state of technology at all in parades! I am ashamed not to know such things! Go better cook cabbage soup, do not disgrace.

[Tatyana]

Quote: 1976AG

let it be known to you that the 2nd world war began in 1939, and not in the 38th.

Now it is considered in 1938 as a result of the Munich Agreement.
You do not track and do not catch up with the political situation in the world, but argue with me!

The 1938 Munich Agreement (also called the Munich Agreement) is an agreement between Germany, Great Britain, France and Italy drawn up in Munich on September 29, 1938 and signed on the night of September 29-30 of the same year by German Chancellor Adolf Hitler, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, French Prime Minister Eduard Daladier and Italian Prime Minister Benito Mussolini.
According to the results of the Munich Agreement, the state of Poland in October 1938 years supported Nazi Germany in territorial claims against Czechoslovakia and annexed part of the Czech and Slovak lands, among which were the towns of Tesinska Silesia, Orava and Spis. Before the conclusion of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in 1939, a little less than a year remained.
Together with Germany and Poland, Czechoslovakia was attacked by Hungary, allied with the Nazis.

[1976AG]

Who is considered? "Progressive humanity?" At all times, the beginning of a war was considered the beginning of hostilities, and not the conclusion of any agreements. That is why the beginning of World War II is considered September 2, 1, when German troops crossed the border of Poland. But this is apparently too difficult for you to understand. You have already shown your deepest knowledge in sociology, diplomacy, history, military affairs .. As I expected, there is a lot of noise, but in fact there is only one zilch. You wanted to show your awareness, but sorry, got into a puddle. I am no longer interested in communicating with you. You can interpret history as you like, but it will not change. Happy to stay.

[Tatyana]

Quote: 1976AG

Who is considered? "Progressive humanity?"

Yes, Putin is already talking about this openly - he wrote an article! And all of you are sitting in the swamp of "progressive mankind"!
I doubt that you are really from the Russian Federation and that you are a citizen of the Russian Federation.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Tatiana

Yes, Putin is already talking about this openly - he wrote an article! And all of you are sitting in the swamp of "progressive mankind"!
I doubt that you are really from the Russian Federation and that you are a citizen of the Russian Federation.

What a kashmar! If we have such "sociologists" steer along the beaten track of the Leader, then there will be no good waiting ... We have to wait for the witch hunt ...

[1976AG]

And if Putin issues a decree to celebrate the victory over Germany on March 20, will you celebrate March 20? Apparently yes, after all, it was Putin who issued a decree !! And we are still unhappy that the West is rewriting history !!! Thanks to people like you, it becomes possible to rewrite and interpret freely. There is a HISTORY and it is what it is, it does not depend on the opinion of anyone else. Although I’m just not sure that you are a person, not a bot, since you are working according to the program laid down in you. Just do not understand who exactly in you this program has laid.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: 1976AG

And if Putin issues a decree to celebrate victory over Germany

From the speech of Trump (this year), we can conclude that Russia did not participate in the Second World War (he does not mention Russia). And the USA and England won the war.
Will we stick to his point of view?

[1976AG]

I don’t know about you, but I have clearly defined my point of view.

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Tatiana

I doubt that you are really from the Russian Federation and that you are a citizen of the Russian Federation.

Well, it was not in vain that the flags were banned .. And the picture would be interesting for the commentators here as the most arrogant ..
So Tatyana is our clever girl, as you always look at the root
They bark at you here all in a crowd ..)))) And we men how can we drive this pack of liber from you ..

[1976AG]

You see, I just adhere to the traditionally Soviet and Russian interpretation of those events, so if one doubts whose citizenship, then just the citizenship of our famous sociologist, historian and diplomat)

[Tatyana]

Quote: 1976AG

You see, I just adhere to the traditionally Soviet and Russian interpretation of those events

And the fact that we were not told everything, you do not take this into account? And then I wrote you

Quote: Tatiana

According to the results of the Munich agreement, the state of Poland in October 1938 supported Hitler Germany in territorial claims against Czechoslovakia and annexed part of the Czech and Slovak lands, among which were the towns of Tesinska Silesia, Orava and Spis. Before the conclusion of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in 1939, a little less than a year remained. Together with Germany and Poland, Czechoslovakia was NAPALA and allied with the Nazis Hungary.

On the night of September 29-30, 1938, the notorious Munich Agreement was concluded. September 30, 1938. Warsaw presented to Prague a new ultimatum, which was to be answered after 24 hours, demanding the immediate satisfaction of its claims, where it required the immediate transfer of the Teszyn border region to it.
Pravda newspaper 1938. September 30. N270 (7595) at page 5. publishes an article: "The provocations of the aggressors do not stop." Incidents "at the borders."

October 2, 1938. Operation Zaluzhye. Poland occupies Tieszyn Silesia (Tesen - Frishtat - Bohumin district) and some settlements on the territory of modern Slovakia.
TO OCCUPATE - it means TO INTRODUCE FOREIGN TROOPS into foreign territory, to deprive the national sovereignty of the occupied lands in another country !!! This is the result of war !!!

October 1938 The national triumph in Poland on the occasion of the capture of the Tieszyn region.
Jozef Beck was awarded the Order of the "White Eagle", in addition, the grateful Polish intelligentsia awarded him the title of honorary doctor of Warsaw and Lvov universities. Polish propaganda is choking with delight.
On October 9, 1938, Gazeta Polska wrote: "... the road opened before us to a sovereign, leading role in our part of Europe requires enormous efforts in the near future and the resolution of incredibly difficult tasks."

[1976AG]

I’m already tired of explaining the obvious things to you, but it doesn’t reach you at all. World War 2 is called WORLD because of the large number of countries involved in it! The Second World War is a struggle of two blocs, two coalitions! One coalition is Germany, Italy, Japan. Remember Berlin, Rome, Tokyo? The second is the anti-Hitler coalition. So the anti-Hitler coalition formed AFTER the German attack on Poland! That is why the beginning of the Second World War from 1939 is counted down! All that happened before, where 2-3 states took part, as in the case of Czechoslovakia, as it were now expressed, local conflicts and nothing more. It was NOT drawn to the WORLD WAR! Do you ever learn history? And I didn’t hire a teacher for you. Go boil cabbage soup and do not distract more over trifles.

[Tatyana]

Good. And what then, in your opinion, led to WWII in 1939 and who is responsible for this and why?
Who do you think is to blame for the beginning of WWII in 1939?
I would like to hear from you, but you can not answer. The answer is predictable.

[1976AG]

Quote: Tatiana

Good. And what then, in your opinion, led to WWII in 1939 and who is responsible for this and why?
Who do you think is to blame for the beginning of WWII in 1939?
I would like to hear from you, but you can not answer. The answer is predictable.

I'm really tired already, can I literally in a nutshell? I don’t know how predictable you are. The roots lie in the ideology of Nazi Germany. The Aryan race is the highest race. All the rest are subhuman. All nations must serve the Germans. Germany must rule the world. Well, in the Soviet Union there are also inexhaustible natural wealth, so necessary to Germany. Although everyone was well aware that the takeover of the USSR would not end. That is why the United States and England began to support the Soviet Union. They perfectly understood that then their turn would come. Well, so briefly.

[Tatyana]

This is an old - ROUNDED - approach that is already historically somewhat outdated.
That is why Putin wrote his article on the cause and beginning of WWII.

Criticism of an article by Vladimir Putin on the Great Patriotic War. • June 21. 2020

[1976AG]

Again you muddy the water. This is not a rounded approach, it is an approach based on historical documents. All plans for the seizure of territories and the destruction of the majority of the population, for the most part Slavic, have documentary evidence for all this. And you made a tragedy from the Boomerang test that failed, and the plans for the mass destruction of people have a rounded approach for you. Bravo!

[Tatyana]

Quote: 1976AG

Again you muddy the water.

It's not me who muddies the waters, but the "collective West" muddies the waters

This is not a rounded approach, it is an approach based on historical documents.

Rounded in the sense that not all historical documents the "collective West" wants to take into account and deliberately bypasses the Munich Agreement, creatively creating its own NEW political narrative on the origins of WWII, while equalizing Hitler's Germany and the USSR in the blame for the beginning of WWII.
Such slander against the USSR does not seem to bother you very much.
And the video, as I understand it, you also did not watch or analyze.

Do not write me anymore. For what you write to me, I already know well, even more than you can imagine.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: 1976AG

One coalition is Germany, Italy, Japan. Remember Berlin, Rome, Tokyo? The second is the anti-Hitler coalition. So the anti-Hitler coalition formed AFTER the German attack on Poland!

Well, yes, until recently, it was believed that "World War" - from the day of the formation of the anti-Hitler coalition. Then the West decided to reconsider the events that led to the outbreak of the war and for some reason these events were the Molotov-Ribentrop pact "not to attack." Then ours decided to give out everything that they think about this (moreover, relying on historical documents). As a result, the possibility and the beginning of the war are rooted in the "Munich Agreement".
Or should we agree with the Poles that Germany and the USSR should be equally responsible for starting a war?

[1976AG]

So inappropriately chatter the story. The main reason for the Second World War is Germany’s desire for world domination. It is a fact. And since this is a fact, how can the USSR share responsibility for its beginning? You delving into lengthy reasoning forget about the root causes, hence all the inconsistencies.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: 1976AG

So inappropriately chatter the story.

The West is chattering history. Ours (represented by Putin) are responsible. Here it is impossible to remain silent, otherwise, after a while, we will be guilty of everything.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: 1976AG

The beginning of World War II is considered September 2, 1, when German troops crossed the Polish border.

And when Germany and Poland attacked Czechoslovakia - what was that?
The German attack on Poland was a further development of these events (after Poland decided to make friends with England, the Germans regarded it as a betrayal, and therefore attacked).

[1976AG]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: 1976AG

The beginning of World War II is considered September 2, 1, when German troops crossed the Polish border.

And when Germany and Poland attacked Czechoslovakia - what was that?
The German attack on Poland was a further development of these events (after Poland decided to make friends with England, the Germans regarded it as a betrayal, and therefore attacked).

Local conflict. If you want a trilateral conflict, but not a WORLD war.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: 1976AG

Local conflict

Then the attack on Poland can be considered local. Or if you attacked Poland, then this should immediately be considered an event of global importance? It’s not some kind, Czechoslovakia.

[1976AG]

Quote: Bad_gr

Quote: 1976AG

Local conflict

Then the attack on Poland can be considered local. Or if you attacked Poland, then this should immediately be considered an event of global importance? It’s not some kind, Czechoslovakia.

I already wrote above, with the attack on Poland an anti-Hitler coalition was formed, that is, the number of countries involved in the war rose sharply. The Second World War is a war of two international coalitions.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: 1976AG

I already wrote above

I read it after my answer.

[kotvov]

. You wanted to show your awareness, but I'm sorry, we sat in a puddle. ,,
It seems to me that you are discussing things that you have no idea about. But China, Spain, this is not the beginning of the second world? And so, you, well done, do mine with a bad game. The parade is prepared by MONTHS and then smoke. This can only testify to the fact that either, even for such an event, they cannot prepare the equipment or that there is nobody.

[snucerist]

Madam, open at least the Russian segment of Wiki.
Put on your glasses, and finally find out when the Second World War began.
You can, of course, declare the beginning of WWII the invasion of the Polovtsy with the Pechenegs, but this, you see, is not serious.

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: snucerist

Madam, open at least the Russian segment of Wiki

Here, many wikis have read, I read .. And about books and just forgot about observation and analysis .. Or, as usual, you google it
So Tatyana is ours, you see you specifically hooked them
Write, but be careful .. Your whole hand and kneel

[1976AG]

Quote: Gaubvaxta

Quote: snucerist

Madam, open at least the Russian segment of Wiki

Here, many wikis have read, I read .. And about books and just forgot about observation and analysis .. Or, as usual, you google it
So Tatyana is ours, you see you specifically hooked them
Write, but be careful .. Your whole hand and kneel

And how much did your Tatyana analyze if she simply could not distinguish the premise for the outbreak of war from the very outbreak of World War II? The Munich conspiracy is a BACKGROUND to the outbreak of war, and actually the beginning of September 1, 1939, the date the German troops crossed the Polish border. What's so complicated?

[Motorist]

Quote: Tatiana

But in the MORAL-POLITICAL plan on the INTERNATIONAL arena both for Russians and citizens of the "collective West", and for the Russian Federation itself, precisely as a state, this is of HUGE importance!

This is how you see it. For me - it seems that the cooling hose broke, the coolant hit hot surfaces (this is steam). The sound of the engine is not very good (well, try to give out power without cooling!) - for the engine, the value is huge ...

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

But in the MORAL-POLITICAL plan on the INTERNATIONAL arena, both for Russians and citizens of the "collective West" and for the Russian Federation itself, precisely as a state, this has a HUGE

The whole west and the entire population (west) - they don’t sleep straight the third night, racking their brains - is it worth it to set the holiday table?

[anykin]

Quote: Tatiana

it is necessary to us?

We do not care.

[Looking for]

It's time in Russia to stop taking care of profits. It's time to take care of the army.

[Doliva63]

Well, at the time of Suvorov and Kutuzov there was a Russian army, and now - the Russian army, because everything is through a different place than then

[Miron]

No, they are not preparing for war in parades.
Parades mark peacetime and remember the past.
In the US, a parade of gays that the Americans themselves wanted to destroy. We have a national holiday in memory of the war and the salvation of the country from fascist hordes.
Very different experiences and very different memories.
It’s a strange thing why they are trying to force us to hold their parades, and do not want to come to ours when they are invited to visit.
Savages.

[YOUR]

In your opinion, the principle is dominant - it’s good when they have a bad thing.

[sg7s]

In passion, what! And they also say that another bester had a wheel after the parade! Well, is it time to give up NATE?

[venik]

Quote: Tatiana

Ha! Yeah! Everything we have is somehow not quite "Thank God!"

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Tanya! As stated in one famous film ("Ambassador of the Soviet Union"): When asked by an American journalist: "How are you going to build Socialism, if in your country I didn’t even find there warm toilets? "The ambassador replied:" ...Everyone sees what he most needed!"

[Tatyana]

Well, loonies in the army and broken equipment do not need me or anyone else! Passed it already!
You have comments in the elderberry garden, and in Kiev uncle! It's ugly on your part.

[venik]

Quote: Tatiana

You have comments in the elderberry garden, and in Kiev uncle!

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Tanya! That’s what I don’t understand exactly in your comment: so this is WHERE I have "elder", and where, in fact, "uncle" ???

[Tatyana]

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Quote: venik

Quote: Tatiana

You have comments in the elderberry garden, and in Kiev uncle!

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Tanya! That’s what I don’t understand exactly in your comment: so this is WHERE I have "elder", and where, in fact, "uncle" ???

I'm talking about the shortcomings of the current state of the RF Armed Forces, and you give an example about the absence of "warm toilets" in the country at the dawn of Soviet power.
One (mine) is from the area of ​​observance NECESSARY for the COMPLETE defense of our country, and the other (yours) - about "warm toilets" - this is just from the area of ​​SUFFICIENT CONSUMPTION.
These are conceptually logically completely different things.

Around what did I have a dispute with ultrapatriots like vkl.47, which the rest of SCOPOM called "Alexei Navalny's hamsters"?
I don’t like the undesirable incidents in the parade. Defectiveness of the authorities. I believe that this is not permissible. And my opponents - ultrapatriots - say that, on the contrary, nothing terrible happened. That everything, in fact, is NORMAL!
That is the essence of our argument.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Tatiana

I don’t like the undesirable incidents in the parade. Defectiveness of the authorities. I believe that this is not permissible.

Let me be interested in ...? Is a lost shoe a cadet in Kaliningrad an undesirable incident? And a flaw in the bosses? Can we punish the commander of the Baltic Fleet?

[Tatyana]

Quote: LiSiCyn

Is a lost shoe a cadet in Kaliningrad an undesirable incident? And a flaw in the bosses?

What do you think? Who invented and approved for girls such uniforms, including model shoes, that the girls in the parade have shoes on the move in the ranks on the march falling off their feet?
And why is it for the shoe she fell in the wrong place and at the wrong time ?!
What kind of disregard for the military commander? Did not pick up the shoe size or gave the person torn shoes?

Do you really think that all this is a NORMAL phenomenon ?! And what supposedly should be so further ?!
Gouging in the sun is not needed!

[Skarpzd]

wow, what far-reaching conclusions ... well, she came walking behind her, well, she lost her shoe and what? what happened? the box didn’t lose formation (well done, that means it was taught correctly), the midshipman (pretty by the way) passed the formation with dignity. honor and praise to her. and what about the technique ... well, so it broke, breaks, and will break. it is not good, but it is. By the way (personally my opinion), it is very similar to the fact that the diesel went into the distribution. I saw something like that. the bus smoked so the smoke screen was.

[Tatyana]

Quote: Skarpzd

wow, what far-reaching conclusions ... well, she came walking behind her, well, she lost her shoe and what? what happened? the box didn’t lose formation (well done, that means it was taught correctly), the midshipman (pretty by the way) passed the formation with dignity. honor and praise to her. and what about technology ...

Now, if the bosses thought the same way you did, then at the Victory Parade 2020 in Moscow, our girls would also have passed in MODEL SHOES.
And they passed it in the BOOTS!
MODEL but BOOTS !!! (See video at 40:43 minutes.)

Shoes and all other uniforms must be securely "fixed" on the soldier - ie. so that it was IMPOSSIBLE to steal it from him in a RANDOM way!

Victory Parade on Red Square. Moscow. June 24, 2020. Full video. • Live broadcast: June 24. 2020 g
[media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = iphD-hWzwfA & feature = emb_err_woyt]
[media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = iphD-hWzwfA]

[venik]

Quote: Tatiana

I'm talking about the shortcomings of the current state of the RF Armed Forces, and you give an example about the absence of "warm toilets" in the country at the dawn of Soviet power.

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And what - the Army is not real a reflection of society? Let hypertrophied, even grotesque - but with a MAP!
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Quote: Tatiana

I don’t like the undesirable incidents in the parade. Defectiveness of the authorities.

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What do you want? A bunch of liberal-shitty "media" massively "brainwash" people (and THOUSANDS of people participate in the Parade!) And so that not a single one is found among them jerk? Or do you naively think this is the FIRST and ONLY case ??? Or do not know anything about the Army?

[Gaubvaxta]

Quote: Tatiana

Quote: kamui91

Well, not on the square he died, already a success.

Ha! Yeah! Everything we have is somehow not quite "Thank God!"
Either the APC after a parade on the street suddenly became smokeless, the soldier with a fool of glass in the FSB car broke before the parade ...

Well, at least something, for the cries of our liberals .. Directly inflated)))))

Quote: vkl.47

This is news for Alex hamsters. For them this is a whole holiday.

Everything is gone, etc. Well, now the throats are cherished by July 1. In order not to hoarse ...

[Dreamboat]

The news is more like a "left stuffing". Some kind of blurry photo, which could have turned out during re-gasification. The video does not show, but "hamsters" and "tame" in orgasm. They are trying to expose a story with a nervous soldier as a direct attack, then this ...

[Grits]

Quote: vkl.47

This is news for Alex hamsters. For them, this holiday is whole

And for pots, what a joy! They immediately threw the sea to dig with happiness.

[Boratsagdiev]

How easy it is to blame everything on liberals, bulk and enemies of the people, sometimes forgetting about sound and constructive criticism.
Maybe you don’t need to reject everything indiscriminately with hostility, but sift through information and make decisions to eliminate problems?
Often "enemies" use the opportunity to harm naturally under the veil of patriotism.

[siberalt]

It looks like something from the "Kuzi" was put on the APC. The version of the crew smoking cannabis disappears right away. The main thing is that it doesn’t catch fire, but they will sort it out with smoke. There is nothing out of the ordinary. The crew completed the task and okay.

[Svarog]

Quote: siberalt

It looks like something from the "Kuzi" was put on the APC. The version of the crew smoking cannabis disappears right away.

Well, why, maybe the crew from the coronavirus used prophylaxis .. rumor has it that smokers do not take the infection))

[siberalt]

Why not? In Turkmenistan, too, the "crown" is driven by smoke.

[210ox]

In Turkmenistan, by presidential decree, this virus is simply prohibited.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Svarog

rumor has it that smokers do not take the infection))

Yes, at the time of smoking, but then he wins back to full.

[Vita vko]

Quote: siberalt

sort out the smoke

Not like smoke. This is the steam from the cooling system.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Vita VKO

Not like smoke. This is the steam from the cooling system.

These experts, such experts...

Military expert Alexei Khlopotov wrote on his blog about another reason why a breakdown could happen. He suggested that an emergency operation of the thermal smoke equipment (TDA), designed to create smoke screens, occurred. The expert believes that this equipment could be turned on accidentally. Also, a malfunction, for example, a loss of tightness or a break in the pipeline, could become the reason for its unexpected operation.

If the TDA was triggered (no matter what caused it), we would not see in a cloud of smoke not only the "Boomer" itself, but also half of Moscow (exaggerate) ...

An example of the work of UDSH (Уniversal Дyymovy ШAshka, not the largest).



TDA "Boomeranga" should smoke much stronger ...

[alone]

Quote: Insurgent

TDA Boomeranga should smoke harder ...

Yes, and if, say, the TDA worked, why should the BTR be towed away ... The TDA in no way can cause the BTR to become immovable ...
Divorced experts like mushrooms after the rain

[AK1972]

Quote: lonely

After all, the TDA cannot in any way cause the armored personnel carrier to become immovable ...

Have you ever seen TDA smoke? You would not see either the road or the nearby buildings.

[alone]

Quote: AK1972

Have you ever seen TDA smoke? You would not see either the road or the nearby buildings.

I saw .. But this does not smoke TDA .. And the cooling system.
P.S. Why does it seem to everyone that apart from him no one has seen anything in life

[AK1972]

So I am talking about this.

[YOUR]

This is what makes me angry. There are a lot of promises, cool cartoons, and they can’t prepare the equipment just for the parades.
According to the promises that Armata, that Boomerang should be in service for three years, but ... military trials have not yet been. Only parades.

[Motorist]

Quote: lonely

And if, say, the TDA worked, why should the BTR be towed away

When my TDA worked like that, my father-in-law also dragged 70 km in tow.

[alone]

Quote: Motorist

Quote: lonely

And if, say, the TDA worked, why should the BTR be towed away

When my TDA worked like that, my father-in-law also dragged 70 km in tow.

You are lucky .And you won’t even move my chair with a tug

[Rzzz]

At the main parade of the country will exhibit equipment with charged smoke exhausts? Are you seriously? You may still think that the soldiers have real weapons?

The smoke is white, which means it is most likely steam from an overheated antifreeze. A branch pipe in the cooling system jumped off, boiling water flew out under pressure, and since the temperature was more than 100 ° C, it went to evaporate vigorously.

[Oquzyurd]

The video shows that the equipment is suffocating, cannot move and has stopped. This is the fuel system, or dvigla kopets.

[Rzzz]

And what usually happens with an overheated motor? Correctly thermal "sticking".

[not main]

Quote: rzzz

At the main parade of the country will exhibit equipment with charged smoke exhausts? Are you seriously? You may still think that the soldiers have real weapons?

The smoke is white, which means it is most likely steam from an overheated antifreeze. A branch pipe in the cooling system jumped off, boiling water flew out under pressure, and since the temperature was more than 100 ° C, it went to evaporate vigorously.

I don’t think that the branch pipe has jumped off! Tk for such events are very seriously preparing! But the pipe burst quite likely especially considering the quality of our rubber goods! And the farther, the worse! I already prefer to deliver rubber goods from the USSR from stock and expired than new ones!

[fruit_cake]

there is a record through a thermal imager that shows that the armored personnel carrier in that place is very hot, you see something is finally overheated, maybe some climate control system

[113262a]

TDA and a checker, like that, with a finger! TDA-steam superheated solarium-in T-80-is injected immediately after the turbine, on diesel engines is the same. After turbocharging. White and gray cloud. KDSH-black SMOKE, namely SMOKE! Most likely the gasket of one of the cylinder heads is broken.

[K-612-O]

Just more like oil, which is often the case with diesels. It’s necessary to try to overheat the diesel engine;

[210ox]

What kind of smoke can? If the protection had worked, then the whole area would flood with smoke.

[sedoj]

Quote: Vita VKO

Quote: siberalt

sort out the smoke

Not like smoke. This is the steam from the cooling system.

White smoke comes from incomplete combustion of diesel fuel. I can assume that in this case the fuel line burst (if it was out of control) and the solarium got into the exhaust manifold. Hence the smoke from the engine compartment.

[Motorist]

The solarium on the collector is not smoke, but fire. Trust the Motorist ...

[sedoj]

I will not believe. It happened to him. It didn’t reach the fire. Drowned in time. Fire will occur when gasoline enters, even its vapor is enough. IMHO.

[Motorist]

Quote: sedoj

I will not believe.

That's your business. Maybe they just started the engine (the exhaust tract is still cold), or it just hit the insulation. 250-300 ° C is enough for DT auto-ignition - I saw it myself.

[Baloo]

The crew was not injured? Here are the goodies. It is unlikely that the smoke screen itself turned on. But what did they charge and what was in the tanks, but how did they move before the parade and in the convoy? Anyway, infa will be classified. let's better talk about pleasant things, about women or about horses ...

[Looking for]

and if from the parade to battle. like in 1941?

[snucerist]

Did you complete the task? Those. delivered the car to the park?
Or was she dragged in tow?

[NEXUS]

Quote: kamui91

Well, not on the square he died, already a success.

Any technique, and especially a new one, has the property of breaking down, acting up, and so on ... why don’t you laughing at SERIAL Humves and Bradleys with Cougars, which also stall, break down and fail? Or is there technology, but is it being collected in the barn?
ALL boomerangs are smoking, dear? Che for puppy squeals?

[Virus-free crown]

Any technique can fail !!! It's okay, everything happens

[loki565]

Interestingly, he has the opportunity to put a smoke screen like on tanks, maybe it worked.

[Piramidon]

Quote: loki565

Interestingly, he has the opportunity to put a smoke screen like on tanks, maybe it worked.

Even if there is such an opportunity, then why charge the system for the parade?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Piramidon

Even if there is such an opportunity, then why charge the system for the parade?

The TDA of the tank is structurally arranged so that nothing is specially "charged" (if we do not mean "Cloud").

There is fuel, turned on - it smokes, there is no fuel - no one goes anywhere and does not smoke

Chimney system of the T-72 tank.

The tank is equipped with thermal smoke apparatus (TDA) of multiple actions. As a smoke-generating substance, diesel fuel is used. The chimney system provides the installation of smoke screens only when the engine is running. The fuel from the two nozzles in the sprayed state enters the exhaust gas stream, where it evaporates under the influence of high temperature and, mixed with the gases, forms a vapor-gas mixture. Since the temperature of the vapor-gas mixture is much higher than the temperature of the outside air, when it is released into the atmosphere and when it comes into contact with the air, condensation of fuel vapor and the formation of fog occurs. When the engine is running on kerosene, the smoke screen is weak, and it makes no sense to turn on the TDA system. When working on gasoline, you cannot use the TDA system.

[Insurgent]

Quote: loki565

Interestingly, he has the opportunity to put a smoke screen like on tanks, maybe it worked.

The T-72 puts a curtain injecting solar oil into the exhaust manifold (when the engine is running on kerosene, the curtain density is low, gasoline cannot be used for setting the curtain), on the Boomerang, I suspect, a different principle is used - smoke bombs ...

[AK1972]

The diesel fuel is first drip fed to the glow plug, and then smoke is already emitted through the exhaust manifold. Smoke is not so much, but very much, though in 10 minutes the tanks will be dry.

[Insurgent]

Quote: AK1972

The diesel fuel is first drip fed to the glow plug, and then smoke is already emitted through the exhaust manifold.

You are not confusing work "boiler heater", with the" TDA "system, where fuel (10 l / min) is injected directly, directly into the exhaust manifolds, from two injectors?

[AK1972]

No, I don’t confuse. I had a smoke exhaust system at the GMZ, in addition to mechanized mining, my tasks included covering the tanks with smoke. So I know the principle of work. Diesel fuel eats a lot, so in the exercises I always took a bottle of UDSH from a nachkhim for a bottle, and tied wire exhaust pipes in the area. Upon receipt of a command to set smoke, a light push with the foot into the back of the head to the mechanic, the car stops, it pops up on the armor, puts the saber into action with a hammer, and the thing is in the hat, Fuel is written off.

[Doctor]

Any technique can fail !!! It's okay, everything happens

It happens, but for military equipment it's a jamb.
If he smokes out of the blue here, then what will happen to him in Syria, afterburning loads?
The machine is very damp, bring and finish.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Arzt

Any technique can fail !!! It's okay, everything happens

It happens, but for military equipment it's a jamb.
If he smokes out of the blue here, then what will happen to him in Syria, afterburning loads?
The machine is very damp, bring and finish.

I'm not expressing myself in science - but there is such a thing - the life time of military equipment in battle - like that is called
and so, there are taken into account when calculating even such cases that the equipment does not stupidly start

it was raaaz ... and two ... just wait I can not give a link - but I read about the "Kremlin garage" about the front cars, which take the parade - even in a car that has everything !!! systems are duplicated and licked before each parade - sometimes there are failures

[Doctor]

even in a car that has everything !!! systems are duplicated and that lick before each parade - sometimes there are failures

There are bounce statistics. Toyota - reliable, Lada - not very.
People choose Toyota, even though you crack. Kurgan is still raw, it’s obvious.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Arzt

even in a car that has everything !!! systems are duplicated and that lick before each parade - sometimes there are failures

There are bounce statistics. Toyota - reliable, Lada - not very.
People choose Toyota, even though you crack. Kurgan is still raw, it’s obvious.

I don’t say whether it’s raw or not - I say that planting Toyota in a swamp is miles of rubles - and putting a Lada in the same swamp is only hundreds of thousands of rubles;) in fact, both cars will drown after all

We do not know what was really there - maybe they didn’t add oil to the hodovka ?! and screw up any technique - "skillfully" - just spit)))

[Looking for]

if you justify it, then I feel sorry for you.

[knn54]

"There is no smoke without fire." Well, at least it did not burn out.

[parusnik]

Well, it's smoky ... it happens ... so now ...

[rocket757]

A diesel engine can be so smoked, no smoke equipment is required.
It makes no sense to guess, everything breaks, for one reason or another.
However, if there is smoke inside, there are not many options for breakage.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: rocket757

A diesel engine can be so smoked, no smoke equipment is required.

We have something like GAZon so smoked that there was half a workshop in the fog. He also caught up with revolutions by himself, as if there was a kikimora pressuring the gas. I thought everything, right now shandarahnet. One jumped up, pulled out the hoses from the tank, stalled, bastard.

[rocket757]

Quote: Mordvin 3

We have something like GAZon so smoked that there was half a workshop in the fog.

It’s familiar, oh how! I have neighbors in the village, truckers privately owned .... repairs usually do themselves.
It was time, antifreeze did not go that way. The whole street was clogged with smelly fog. On the track this also happened.

[loki565]

It happens with diesels, the engine starts to run out of oil and goes into the runoff, you can only drown out by blocking the air intake. But here the engine runs at normal speed

[igor67]

Quote: rocket757

A diesel engine can be so smoked, no smoke equipment is required.
It makes no sense to guess, everything breaks, for one reason or another.
However, if there is smoke inside, there are not many options for breakage.

I had a diesel Galloper Hyundai, white smoke, water entering the cylinders, head gasket, black smoke and loss of power, a nozzle from the turbine flew off, everything is simple

[rocket757]

My friend from the north came by diesel ... so he used our diesel fuel, he always expressed his opinion in a very special language. He says they don't use this ... the north does not forgive a lot of things, such "dirty" diesel fuel in the first place.

[Eug]

If the nozzle "lays down" - also black smoke.

[Pereira]

Banderlog today peremoga.

[HAM]

Another toilet opened! ??

[Pereira]

Smoke

[HAM]

I understand this ..... the irony is not that, they make a holiday from the opening of school grades, but then a neighbor’s grandiose bummer ......

[Free wind]

Most likely this is a violation of the fuel pump, I do not know what kind of engine, but most likely this is a breakdown of the fuel pump drive

[Piramidon]

Quote: Free Wind

Most likely this is a violation of the fuel pump, I do not know what kind of engine, but most likely this is a breakdown of the fuel pump drive

If the injection pump refused, the engine would immediately get up, and the APC would smoke, but it was driving.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Piramidon

If the injection pump refused, the engine would immediately get up,

No, no, not always he will get up. Injection pump is such a nasty thing that you can’t figure it out without a glass. We had a whole stand for them to run in, and still, there were flaws.

[sg7s]

Not only a stand, also a good specialist .... Injection pumps are such "brains", a glass will not be enough ... (I had a pleasure, although in comparison with the fuel equipment of an aircraft it is simpler ...)

[PROXOR]

He boiled, that’s all.

[Viktor Sergeev]

You won’t believe it, it’s common to break down equipment, sometimes because of crew errors. Airplanes in such a situation fall, tanks smoke. I see no problems and no reason for the article about anything.

[svp67]

What is the TDA? What is the "expert" talking about? It can be seen that smoke or steam is coming down not from the exhaust pipe, but from under the roof of the MTO. What is this, they will figure it out in the park and did the right thing, that they took it away, and did not start doing it on the spot. It looks like either the fuel line has broken or the coolant is knocked out ...

[PROXOR]

The second one. At the first it would blaze.

[svp67]

Quote: PROXOR

The second one. At the first it would blaze.

It could, but not a fact. Diesel fuel, getting on hot surfaces, quickly cools them, why you can't use the TDA for a long time, the engine cools down very quickly. Alas, we cannot smell what the "smoke steam" smells like, as well as to see what is pouring from the bottom of it

[Piramidon]

Quote: svp67

Alas, we cannot smell what the "smoke-blower" smells like

There was a whole crowd of "sniffers" around in this cloud, at least one of them unsubscribed here.

[PROXOR]

Well, so much smoke that the solarium was supposed to pour like a river. yet again. When the fuel line was broken, the engine would stand almost immediately, and then he drove another 10 meters calmly. Not - it's cool.

[svp67]

Quote: PROXOR

and then he drove another 10 meters calmly.

Not calm, sound, listen, there is clearly a troil and double ... there were no turns

Quote: PROXOR

Not - it's cool.

I do not exclude

[Siberian54]

About a liter per minute ...

[Pattor]

True noticed! There was nothing out of the exhaust

[fruit_cake]

it can be seen that it is warming in front, from there smoke

[Old partisan]

The technique is new, crude in sound and smoke, it looks like the engine stuck.
I do not affirm. It happens. A year or two will bring to mind and everything will be normal.

[Jack O'Neill]

When I decided to have a bite at the parade and warmed up dry tea.

[pereselenec]

Well, at least on the cobblestones on a smoke and saved us from shame.

[PROXOR]

Trite boiled. It’s hot in Moscow now, but the automation for the fans didn’t work. This even happens on new foreign cars.

[Looking for]

And we will also fight only on the "cool"

[rotfuks]

As an option, the "mountain brake" worked. All modern diesel vehicles are equipped with such a device. In fact, this is a valve covering the exhaust gases in the area of ​​the exhaust manifold. It is used when driving on long mountain slopes, so as not to burn brake pads in vain, but to brake it with an engine. If the valve of this "mountain brake" did not depart on time, then the diesel engine starts to smoke very much.

[Simargl]

But if we are talking about the accidental inclusion of smoke screens, it is unlikely that in this case it would be necessary to tow an armored personnel carrier.

Those. let him ride, cover the whole of Moscow with a veil?

[Kerensky]

Hm! Did you choose dad?

[Eug]

When such smoke is most likely broken, the engine head gasket

[Poetry]

Kapets! Worldwide sensation. I can imagine how American hamsters slobbered, bibs of the State Department. Rubbing their lean palms, they clicked on the buttons sharing their joy with the outside world. A holiday with the patriots of America.

[prodi]

judging by the speed, it is very likely that the head gasket

[private person]

As an option, the cooling system hose burst and fluid spilled onto the manifold.

[AVA77]

Damn so much noise, from nothing. The smoke is characteristic, diesel, maybe the nozzle poured, maybe the high-pressure fuel pump was covered, and to hell with it! All with the past, Good to you friends.

[Shikari91]

Expert - a person with special knowledge

And long ago, experts who simply voiced their opinions or fantasized on some topic became experts? Correctly wrote above that when the smoke screen was triggered, no one would have seen anything at a distance beyond a meter. White smoke (most likely arose due to engine eating oil) and further towing of armored personnel carriers indicate problems with the engine.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Shikari91

And long ago, experts who simply voiced their opinions or fantasized on some topic became experts?

Since the 2000s.

[Freedim]

Each minus has its own plus ... Someone is "blown in" verbally .. someone can get outfits for negligence ... Well, or the designers will be presented if their cant. In any case, they poke everyone's nose so that this does not happen again, and most likely does not happen again.

[Micfoster]

The more jambs crawl out in the parades, the fewer they will be in a combat situation!

[Slavs]

How many vehicles were driven before the parade?
One of the armored personnel carriers of everything that has passed is clearly not an indicator ... Heat ...

[Comrade Michael]

All the loafers are going to discuss, look

[vadivm59]

when the TDA is turned on, the smoke comes from the exhaust manifold. and then from the power compartment and the wheel arch. The TDA has nothing to do with it.

[Evil 55]

I would call it a fire in the engine compartment during the normal operation of an automatic fire extinguishing system ...

[Archivist Vasya]

It's a shame. Only now, if our cooling system malfunctions, then what will be scary to think in Syria. (Hasn't it been tested there yet?) Some defective copy ...

[Alexfly]

Better knocked out here than on a real battlefield ....

[Ros 56]

They will figure it out, find the reason. It’s the same iron, and sometimes it is naughty like people.

[Looking for]

"hardware" must always work. If it does not work, the fault of the person. (from the designer to the operator.)

[Ros 56]

You will tell this in the program "The Obvious Incredible", iron loves affection, cleanliness and lubrication and still sometimes capricious.

[113262a]

Alas, I already wrote with fuel equipment in the USSR and the Russian Federation (LDNR), as well as VNYADA! Approximately such a picture was in the 15th laude at the parade in Lugansk on May 9. Our t-34 in the center of the city GAVE A HOOD, so much so that a bunch of policemen and onlookers were blown away literally! There certainly, no TDA and did not smell! So then she was on the trawl and left!

[Vadim237]

Most likely the pipe of the cooling system has flown or the cooler shuranula has burst on the exhaust manifold and hello the steam room - because of this, the tow truck was driven.

[Martin]

What is all fuss about? ICE - internal combustion engine. COMBUSTION! And what sometimes burns out not inside but outside is an infrequent, but quite ordinary situation. ICE, in principle, is imperfect, even the most modern. Indeed, in it nothing has changed since Rudolf Diesel and Nikolaus Otto. So only, cosmetic improvements.

[German Titov]

Awesome news. Did the author exploit military equipment? Smoke and smoke. There are many reasons.

[German Titov]

The tanks went, well done. Tanks stand - zampotechu ....

[Bshkaus]

"We have" on the railroad this is called "let the bear", if you quickly gain positions on the locomotive, it starts burning with a spark))))
But seriously, I don’t think that the quality of the "boomerang" is very different from the UAZ-patriot or the "grants" frets (no offense).

[Esaul]

Hmm, if the car was ideally licked and prepared for the parade on the asphalt road in not the hottest weather, so smoke, what can we say about the usual equipment somewhere on the Syrian off-road. No wonder she is not yet in the army ...

[Prisoner]

Business something. The crew decided to smoke, relieve nervous tension.

[agoran]

Here, kmk, there is a leak in the fuel pipeline, fuel getting onto the hot part, hence the smoke.
Even in aviation, despite pressure checks, there was a leak of fuel, AMG, etc.
Vibration, pressure and temperature differences. Always need constant monitoring and observation.

[ljoha_d]

In appearance, either a solarium flowed to the exhaust or the cooling system failed, though the smoke was thick with blue, rather a solarium from the fuel system. It happens!

[Victorio]

isn’t it more correct, did it immediately stop and shut off the engine to the crew until clarification !? and the result is mockery, mockery and other delights of the free Internet

[Boratsagdiev]

Quote: 1976AG

World War II is the struggle of two blocs, two coalitions

This is a regular, regular, new redistribution.
The West cannot live long without additional feeding from outside. Many countries still live off the "colonies".
"Monetization" of third countries is carried out through its own currency (even France is doing this).
In fact, the war began with the looting of Czechoslovakia.
Well, an extra reason was to crush the USSR, otherwise it wouldn’t take an hour to rise to heaven and the masses would overwhelm the entire world.

[Boratsagdiev]

Quote: loki565

You can only drown out by blocking the air intake.

and you can’t shut off the fuel supply?

[Boris Chernikov]

what does it mean "would hardly need a tow truck" ??? If the equipment is malfunctioning, it should be muffled and towed to the place of repair. No one in their right mind will risk an expensive car for the sake of show

[Dzafdet]

It doesn't look like an engine. The exhaust color would be black. Most likely the gasket broke and the antifreeze spilled out ...

[Siberian54]

In general, it’s strange why his diesel fuel falls on the hot parts of the engine, all the same, non-combatant vehicles were allowed to the parade ....

[saygon66]

- The technique is new, unusual, clicked drove ....