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Gazprom suspected of tricky game in Poland

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Fulfilling the decision of the Stockholm arbitration and without objection agreeing to pay compensation to Poland, Gazprom behaved in a completely civilized manner. But somehow it is suspicious, it looks like a "cunning" game.


This is the reasoning of Lukasz Wazzeczy, who published his article in the Polish edition of Do Rzeczy.

The author of the article believes that Russia is playing some kind of ingenious game, which only at first glance seems simple and understandable.

In March of this year, after a six-year lawsuit, the Stockholm Arbitration Court issued a verdict in a dispute between the Polish Oil and Gas Concern (PGNiG) and the Russian company Gazprom. The Poles considered the price of gas delivered through the Yamal pipeline to be overestimated. The court declared Warsaw's claims fair, requiring Gazprom to pay compensation in the amount of $ 1,5 billion. The Russians did not ignore the decision of the arbitration and agreed to a payment.

It was the latter fact that surprised the Poles. They expected anything, but not that.

Perhaps such docility of Gazprom is somehow connected with the difficulties in completing the construction of Nord Stream 2, which are caused by US pressure. The Americans are trying to prevent the launch of SP-2, or at least to delay it. They do this by threatening sanctions to European companies involved in the construction and subsequent operation of the pipeline.

Lukas Vazheha suggests that Gazprom’s suspicious pliability is part of Russia's cunning and complex plan to conquer Europe’s energy market:

Taking a peaceful position in the dispute with PGNiG, Gazprom shows Western politicians and the public that in its person they are dealing not with a thug who launches a “gas gun”, but with a normal, predictable Western-style company that calmly executes international arbitration decisions .

According to Vazhehi, Russia is demonstrating to Europeans its civilization, which sets it apart from the rude American blackmail. On the other hand, they are trying to show them that the Poles are deeply mistaken in their hostility to the Russian Federation.

The author further suggests that if Russia succeeds in upholding Nord Stream 2, it could become part of Europe’s new “clean” energy system, which will replace the oil and gas system in the near future. A number of leading European countries, including Germany, due to environmental considerations, are very serious about the idea of ​​widespread use of hydrogen in energy. It can be produced locally or purchased abroad. And in this case, Gazprom could supply hydrogen instead of natural gas via Nord Stream-2.

Such a step on the part of Russia would allow it to integrate into the energy system of Europe in the conditions of compliance with new environmental requirements, which have recently become more stringent.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 24 June 2020 12: 33 New
    +6
    Gazprom suspected of tricky game in Poland
    They suspect very correctly. To be Poland - a boob in the old Polish profession (Stirlitz) repeat
    1. marchcat
      marchcat 24 June 2020 12: 40 New
      +6
      They said a thousand times that it is necessary to be friends with Russia and not to pour mud on it. So, the Poles can only wait for Russia to respond. Well, Poland, what to take from it, as was the hyena of Europe, will remain!
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 24 June 2020 12: 46 New
        16
        Quote: marchcat
        as was the hyena of Europe, it will remain so!

        Churchill climbed Africa, hence the associative series. Hyena is a strong and flocking creature. Asia says that Poland was rather a jackal, petty, mean, cowardly. angry
        1. marchcat
          marchcat 24 June 2020 12: 55 New
          10
          Let it be your way, I also like the association of Poland with the jackal more.
          1. businessv
            businessv 24 June 2020 14: 10 New
            +3
            Quote: marchcat
            Poland’s association with the jackal is more like it.

            but how many jackals (hyenas) do not feed, but will still yelp!
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 24 June 2020 14: 56 New
              10
              And you were worried correctly.
              Gazprom is preparing a counterclaim. bully
              Poland received money for the period when pipe gas was more expensive than spot gas. And now Gazprom will receive from Poland for the period when pipe gas was cheaper. Moreover, on the basis of an already adopted decision of the Stockholm arbitration.
              Therefore, they paid. In order not to get out, the Poles and the Swedes were. hi
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 24 June 2020 19: 32 New
                +4
                Quote: Alex777
                And you were worried correctly.
                Gazprom is preparing a counterclaim. bully
                Poland received money for the period when pipe gas was more expensive than spot gas. And now Gazprom will receive from Poland for the period when pipe gas was cheaper. Moreover, on the basis of an already adopted decision of the Stockholm arbitration.
                Therefore, they paid. In order not to get out, the Poles and the Swedes were. hi

                Всё верно. Все замутки связаны с разницей в ценах между спотовым и трубопроводным газом с привязкой к цене на нефть. Прецедент создан, и бить по хитрой польской физиономии будут на том же основании, которое использовал суд при определении "долга" Газпрома. Для суда, как бы, обратного хода уже нет т.к. обоснование решения-его рукотворное детище и он(суд) будет вынужден выносить аналогичное решение, но уже против Варшавы. Возможно полякам придётся вернуть 1,5 лярда Газпрому, но ещё и с доплатой.
    2. major147
      major147 24 June 2020 14: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      They suspect very correctly.

      А почему бы "Газпрому не пойти в суды путём проторенным Украиной, Польшей и прочими жалобщиками? Ведь Ковид - это форс-мажор. Падение потребления газа, а за ним и падение цен на него, это повод обратиться в суд для изменения цен и условий оплаты транзита со всеми вытекающими. "С волками жить - по волчьи выть!" (с)
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 24 June 2020 14: 30 New
      +3
      Nord Stream 2 now knits many Russian initiatives in foreign policy. For the advance of our gas to the West, one and a half lard are mere pennies. Then the Poles will bitterly regret it.
    4. Terenin
      Terenin 24 June 2020 18: 51 New
      +1
      Gazprom suspected of tricky game in Poland
      Поляки уже и на "хитроумность" монополию хотят.
    5. Pravodel
      Pravodel 25 June 2020 08: 50 New
      -1
      Who would doubt it ... Now everyone who comes from Russia will be suspected of intent to blow up the Polish parliament, enclose Warsaw with barbed wire to prevent the motorcade of the president and the prime minister from being damaged and cause damage to their cars, block the collection of sewage into Krakow and send from towards Warsaw, so that parliament, the president and the prime minister escaped from there, and much more. richer in thought, but it’s just the Russians who prevent him from doing this, they simply don’t give life ...
  2. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 June 2020 12: 42 New
    +3
    laughing And why are lice carrying typhoid not fined, but intolerantly spar? Where's the justice?
  3. knn54
    knn54 24 June 2020 12: 43 New
    +2
    They do not suspect, but lament, few asked.
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 24 June 2020 12: 44 New
    +6
    Поляки получили в казну 1,5 миллиарда долларов и еще думают что их обманули, так как Россия, выплатила до последнего цента...Ломают голову , где их обманули?..."Молчит Русь, не дает ответа"(с) smile
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 June 2020 13: 11 New
      +7
      Quote: parusnik
      Poles received $ 1,5 billion in treasury and still think that they were deceived

      Интересный народ поляки, когда им не платят, кричат "обманули", когда им платят, всё равно кричат "обманули". Шляхетскую логику не понять.
      1. businessv
        businessv 24 June 2020 14: 11 New
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        The gentry logic cannot be understood.

        Because it is absent!
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      3. Terenin
        Terenin 24 June 2020 19: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: parusnik
        Poles received $ 1,5 billion in treasury and still think that they were deceived

        Интересный народ поляки, когда им не платят, кричат "обманули", когда им платят, всё равно кричат "обманули". Шляхетскую логику не понять.

        Rzhach pospolita .. from dupes to dupes.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 24 June 2020 15: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      They rack their brains, where were they deceived ?.

      The cat knows whose oil it ate. It seems to me that the Poles are well aware that their claims (as well as the claims of the entire collective West) against Russia, to put it mildly, are not substantiated. So they scratch their turnips, suspect that they will have to pay later for their behavior. And a lot. And these simple thoughts do not give them rest and seek a catch. But in fact, everything is simple.
    3. Captain45
      Captain45 24 June 2020 15: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      Поляки получили в казну 1,5 миллиарда долларов и еще думают что их обманули, так как Россия, выплатила до последнего цента...Ломают голову , где их обманули?..."Молчит Русь, не дает ответа"(с)

      Как в "Ералаше" сюжет про параллельные прямые : "Я понял,что они не пересекутся! Я не понял ПОЧЕМУ они не пресекутся?!" laughing
    4. Terenin
      Terenin 24 June 2020 19: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      ."Молчит Русь, не дает ответа"(с)



      Hi Wan, what are you doing?
      I am working, I am writing an invitation to the Poles!
      Where will you lead?
  5. military_cat
    military_cat 24 June 2020 12: 57 New
    -11
    Wow, again outplayed as if by notes.
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 June 2020 13: 30 New
    +1
    The Pole thinks right. Gazprom did not just pay the money. Stockholm arbitration went to meet the Poles and recognized the gas price as a benchmark. Gazprom paid 1.5 billion cantract gas price differences and spot gas prices. The overpaid money returned to the Poles. And now the drum roll . Once a spot is a reference price, Gazprom prepares a lawsuit against the Poles when the gas price under the contract was lower than the gas price on the spot. Gazprom will have a large amount of claims over the years and the difference. for the standard. It will be fun. Gazprom will pick up European lawyers for this case, but they have nothing sacred, only money. We’ll see.
  7. signifera
    signifera 24 June 2020 13: 54 New
    -11
    There is one more option. Why did the Poles get paid. To amend the amendments to the constitution. After all, they go very reluctantly. And there’s just a clause that a foreign court doesn’t give us a decree. Like, you see how much money didn’t reach hospitals and schools. We can’t fix the roads. Vote for amendments to prevent this from happening again. So what. Since no one knows, neither the article nor the commentary, I will also offer it without insisting on genius.
    1. Tatyana Sementsova
      Tatyana Sementsova 24 June 2020 14: 15 New
      +8
      You also did not please along the way ...... laughing This payment was stuck to the vote ...... So, to vote or not to vote? laughing laughing laughing laughing
      1. major147
        major147 24 June 2020 14: 39 New
        +7
        Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
        This payment was stuck to the vote ......

        Do not judge him harshly, he has such a job - to cram the unwelcome into all the cracks!
      2. Brturin
        Brturin 24 June 2020 15: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
        So, vote or not vote?

        так пока официально еще не заплатили... "Правление PGNiG сообщает, что 2 июня 2020 года оно получило информацию о представлении ответчиком (далее "Газпром") в Стокгольмский апелляционный суд иска об отмене окончательного решения от 30 марта 2020 года" и в то же время поляки уверяют, что им обещали до 1 июля... будем посмотреть...
    2. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 24 June 2020 14: 20 New
      0
      From such a version, it became bad for all owls and all globes around the world ...
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 June 2020 14: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Signifer
      Like, you see how much money didn’t reach hospitals and schools.

      Да от "Газпрома" что так, что этак, деньги до школ и больниц не дойдут.
      1. your1970
        your1970 25 June 2020 08: 51 New
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Signifer
        Like, you see how much money didn’t reach hospitals and schools.

        Да от "Газпрома" что так, что этак, деньги до школ и больниц не дойдут.

        That is, you do not know what the FCS gives 60% of budget and what is the bulk of it - export hydrocarbon duties ???
        It is with that money that the army and schools and hospitals ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 25 June 2020 09: 38 New
          0
          Quote: your1970
          That is, you are not aware of the fact that the FCS gives 60% of the budget and that the bulk of it is export hydrocarbon duties ???

          Of course I didn’t. It turns out that fines will also go from these 60%, and not from those 40% owned by private individuals.
  8. Poetry
    Poetry 24 June 2020 14: 11 New
    0
    Why did the Poles think twice
    Зачесали "репу" злые Шапокляки.
    The realities in the world today are
    Everywhere the hand from Moscow is operating.
  9. Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 24 June 2020 14: 12 New
    +3
    Again did not please? Well, what can I say !!!!!! sad
  10. AllBiBek
    AllBiBek 24 June 2020 14: 19 New
    +2
    They began to suspect that if they were licked in the ass, is this for lubrication?
    Psheks are getting smarter, my lord ...
  11. iouris
    iouris 24 June 2020 14: 54 New
    0
    Начинают подозревать, что "зелёная энергетика" - это засада.
  12. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 24 June 2020 14: 56 New
    +1
    Yes, the Poles always and in all Russian suspect. Russians breathe air - very suspiciously. The Russians walk on two legs - they are probably plotting something against Poland. Russians eat with their mouths - just like a conspiracy against Poland. The Russians do not have horns, hooves and a tail - it means they are well camouflaged to deceive the Poles. Etc.
  13. Yurahip
    Yurahip 24 June 2020 15: 13 New
    0
    What a nonsense, drown with hydrogen! Don’t you rehearse?
    1. dauria
      dauria 24 June 2020 16: 38 New
      0
      What a nonsense, drown with hydrogen!


      This is a green chip - all the dirt in third world countries, and in our office there are only sockets with ready-made electricity (well, or hydrogen for cars).
      На самом деле водород на дороге не валяется и на его производство уходит на 20 % больше энергии , чем запасённой в нём химической при окислении обратно в воду. Так обычно барышни из конторы , когда в цех попадают " Фи, какой шум и грязь тут у вас" laughing
      From Wiki -
      industrial production of hydrogen using the best efficiency (70-82%) processes of 1 kg of hydrogen (specific energy 143 MJ / kg or about 40 kW * h / kg) requires 50-55 kWh of electricity.

      So in general, there is no benefit to the planet. Well, unless all power plants are made nuclear, solar, tidal, and so on.
  14. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 24 June 2020 15: 36 New
    -1
    laughing In the case when the Europeans again presses the use of * full * capacity, open the valve only * after * issuing * all * involved in lobbying and adoption of discriminatory laws on the warrant of the Basmanny court. wassat
  15. Terenin
    Terenin 24 June 2020 18: 54 New
    +1
    It was the latter fact that surprised the Poles. They expected anything, but not that.
    I can imagine what will happen to the Poles when ours bring them money, and even cash winked
    1. sg7s
      sg7s 24 June 2020 22: 41 New
      0
      А что будет - подадут следуюший иск ...украинцы вон как живут ...нашему козаку 4 ярда - "мелочь" . А для них - большой кусок....
  16. mortido
    mortido 24 June 2020 19: 26 New
    0
    Скорее это похоже на выдержку для внутреннего потребления, мол смотрите и гордитесь,- "какой хитроумный ваш Газпром" даже поляки его хвалят, точнее один журналист из какой-то газетенки. Да уж, раздавать гос миллиарды надо быть очень хитроумным, лучше проявили бы себя в снижении цен на газ, а нет с 1 июля тарифы наоборот вверх ...
  17. Usher
    Usher 24 June 2020 20: 37 New
    0
    Europeans their civilization
    Are they civilized or what?
  18. BAI
    BAI 24 June 2020 21: 06 New
    +1
    The Russians did not ignore the decision of the arbitration and agreed to a payment.

    What is so strange? Obviously, you will have to pay everything only if you kick - interest (and not frail ones) and losses from the seizure of assets will rush. Everything is clear with the court - the decision will be anti-Russian, the appeal will not be accepted.
  19. sg7s
    sg7s 24 June 2020 22: 39 New
    +2
    слова "газпром" и "хитроумные" - несовместимы . Там спецов не осталось , одни династии...
  20. kot-begemot
    kot-begemot 25 June 2020 19: 24 New
    0
    Чтобы наши просто так отдали денег-не верю.Или продали Пшекам спг с наценкой 500% через подставную амерскую компашку и чисто "на поржать" их же деньгами расчитались или команда от темнейшего поступила-стить лишнюю зелень в связи с( а х.з. с чем).Снижать цену задним числом как-бы не принято,если в договоре поставки такого не предусмотрено.А еще вариант,спрос на газ упал,вот и решили не тормозить свою добычу и расчитаться с польшей газом.