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EW "Neptune" is not afraid: in Kiev, they accuse Russia of trying to influence the new anti-ship missiles

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EW "Neptune" is not afraid: in Kiev, they accuse Russia of trying to influence the new anti-ship missiles

Russia tried to disrupt the final tests of the Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missile, using electronic warfare systems (EW). This statement was made by the Ukrainian consulting agency Defense Express, citing representatives of the design bureau Luch.


It is alleged that the Russian side used electronic warfare equipment to change the course of the missile and thereby reduce the likelihood of hitting the target. The agency calls the second variant of the use of electronic warfare to collect information about the Ukrainian missile. However, according to Defense Express, no electronic warfare systems were able to prevent the latest Ukrainian missile from accurately hitting the target.

As Defense Express experts emphasize, "neither the western, nor even the Russian electronic warfare systems" are capable of derailing or incapacitating a Tomahawk or Ukrainian Neptune cruise missile. The only thing they have enough for is "slightly reduce the accuracy of the hit," but the rocket will still hit the target. And all the statements of Russia that electronic warfare systems make American missiles fall, are not true.

So for now, the most effective way to combat cruise missiles is that the Tomahawks, or Neptune, or any other cruise missiles
missiles are artillery or anti-aircraft missile systems

- writes the edition.

"EW" Neptune "is not afraid," - say in Kiev.

Recall that the final tests of the ZhK-360MTs missile system with R-360 Neptune anti-ship missiles took place this month at the Alibey training ground in the Odessa region. The missile was tested with a warhead.
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  1. Fitter65
    Fitter65 23 June 2020 14: 26 New
    48
    It is alleged that the Russian side used electronic warfare systems to change the course of the missile and thereby reduce the probability of hitting the target ... However, according to Defense Express, no electronic warfare systems were able to prevent the latest Ukrainian missile from accurately hitting the target.

    And in Russia, even aware that against the Ukrainian missile used electronic warfare?
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 23 June 2020 14: 31 New
      27
      I guess not.
      In general, of course, epic and crazy !!!
      Well, as usual!
      1. figwam
        figwam 23 June 2020 15: 28 New
        +8
        Again at the expense of Russia PR and nothing more.
        1. Slon1978
          Slon1978 24 June 2020 12: 55 New
          +6
          Here there are problems with the logic that Defense Express is not uncommon for this institution. What is the point of working with electronic warfare on a missile that has not yet been adopted for service? After all, if the electronic warfare will bring her down, then we will actually point out the vulnerability of the GOS missile at the stage of its testing and thereby help the enemy - he will be able to immediately improve it. It is much more reasonable to wait for the adoption of Neptune into service, its full deployment at the expense of the poor budget of Ukraine, knowing about its vulnerabilities and without any noise knowing that it is not dangerous and how to counteract it. I think who needs to be with us for a long time to know what is inside the GOS of Neptune and how its navigation works. Moreover - at the test stage it is just more profitable to look from the side at what the rocket is capable of without any external influence, under ideal conditions. Therefore, I believe that ours simply shot telemetry during the tests - speed, altitude and flight profile, range - and the Sumerians just spotted the radar, got excited and thought up terrible stories about electronic warfare.
          1. free_flier
            free_flier 24 June 2020 20: 13 New
            0
            Such Sumerians have already managed to sell everything, not yet adopting it.
          2. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 25 June 2020 16: 57 New
            0
            ... and the Sumerians just spotted the radar, got excited and thought up terrible stories about EW


            - finally, the EW radiation "mercury" - causes the detonation of shells of multiple launch rocket systems ...
            So if the party says "necessary" ...
      2. 4ekist
        4ekist 23 June 2020 15: 32 New
        +4
        "EW" Neptune "is not afraid," - say in Kiev.
        Dibi ..... the loids don't care, heroes.
        1. Poetry
          Poetry 23 June 2020 18: 14 New
          +3
          Haroyam-sala! And the vodka. Gorilka is a little monkey.
          1. 4ekist
            4ekist 23 June 2020 18: 21 New
            +2
            Without fail with a big and red ass. Humor understood !!!
        2. Whiteidol
          Whiteidol 24 June 2020 19: 11 New
          +2
          I think that the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation is already breaking through a contract for the purchase of a couple of hundred to begin with)))
      3. alexmach
        alexmach 23 June 2020 22: 59 New
        0
        I guess not.

        If this is true, then in vain. It was worth playing and a rocket to study and test cash.
    2. CARLSON
      CARLSON 23 June 2020 15: 22 New
      17
      Russia, on the contrary, suggested that the rocket hit the target at the training ground.
      And then, knowing their accuracy, and not far from the war, they would have sunk a friendly NATO ship or airplane, like a Boeing at one time and that’s all for us. So let them rejoice at how well-aimed they are.
    3. avg
      avg 23 June 2020 17: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Fitter65
      And in Russia, even aware that against the Ukrainian missile used electronic warfare?

      Well, they know that for sure. After all, this is a consulting agency, in missiles it understands much more merchandisers and even brokers and dealers.
  2. Skay
    Skay 23 June 2020 14: 26 New
    22
    neither Western, nor even Russian electronic warfare systems are capable of knocking off or disabling the winged Tomahawk missile or Ukrainian "Neptune".

    - Thin marketing in Ukrainian laughing
    1. svp67
      svp67 23 June 2020 14: 54 New
      15
      Quote: Skay
      - Thin marketing in Ukrainian

      Still to lick the "fifth point" with the Americans, of course you can’t learn this, it’s in the genes ....
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 23 June 2020 15: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: svp67
        Still to lick the "fifth point" in the Americans

        That's what I’m looking at, Trump has recently been all so fussy, he doesn’t sit all the time, either standing or on the go ... And there it is, Mikhalych !!! The 404th he scared the whole sciatic nerve with blood tongue out that the poor fellow was afraid to sit down ... laughing good drinks
    2. venik
      venik 23 June 2020 15: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: Skay
      neither Western, nor even Russian electronic warfare systems are capable of knocking off or disabling a cruise missile type "Tomahawk" or Ukrainian "Neptune".

      =========
      Well, WHO dares to ME (with Uncle Sam!) to attack?

      Right now, as a HAWK (in chorus!)
      -----
      PS Well, WHY the most "proud" peoples (Poles, Ukrainians, Balts, etc.), necessarily seek out HOST owners stronger and more influential ???
      Is that a "symbol" of "national pride" ??? request
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 23 June 2020 21: 41 New
      0
      Tomahawk cruise missile
      And lick, of course hozam not forget laughing
    4. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 25 June 2020 17: 04 New
      0
      Russian electronic warfare systems are not capable of knocking off or incapacitating a Tomahawk-type cruise missile


      EW systems shot down 34 Tomahawks in Syria, US experts said.
      Where did they get these “tomahawks,” launched against Syria’s unruly by personal order of the US president ??
      “Confused, tomahawks, confused” ... ..
      US military experts have recorded an "incomprehensible" and "inexplicable" shutdown of the Tomahawk cruise missile guidance systems. Moreover, the "shutdown" was followed by the "inclusion" and "guidance" of these missiles at other coordinates.
      American tabloids began to change the assessment of "Trump's tough answer" from enthusiastic shouts of "cheers" to crushing reviews. Political scientists generally characterize the attack on the Syrian airfield as a failure.
      Pictures have already appeared of a fallen 40 km (???) from the Syrian air base, Pentagon target, cruise missile. Judging by the image, the Tomahawk simply crashed to the ground or “landed” and does not have the damage characteristic of a missile defense.
      American experts are convinced that most likely the guidance devices of the majority of the Tomahawks were turned off by external influences.
      Only Russian electronic warfare systems (EW) can be behind this. And this, according to experts, means the largest defeat of the American army since the beginning of US aggression against Arab countries in 2011.

      About this, in particular, writes the editor-in-chief of Veterans Today, Gordon Duff, a veteran of the Vietnam War, after analyzing “disassembling tomahawks” with his colleagues.

      https://media.zvezdaweekly.ru/storage/default/2018/05/07/63ef5cfa879848afbd201e00e301f177.jpg
      - Tired ... and flew by ....
  3. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 23 June 2020 14: 28 New
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    Explain to me the term "slightly reduce the accuracy of the hit"? belay laughing
    1. 5-9
      5-9 23 June 2020 14: 40 New
      12
      Ukrainian is very young, but already politically correct .... Saints Tomahawks can’t miss, they only have an increase in the negative probability of getting :)
    2. boris epstein
      boris epstein 23 June 2020 14: 43 New
      14
      "Slightly reducing the accuracy of the hit" is instead of the goal of getting into the Vereshchagin dry cargo ship, a house in Brovary, or the Russian Tu-154 over the Black Sea. Ukraine has experience.
      1. Avior
        Avior 23 June 2020 15: 17 New
        -13
        Russian P35 hit Vereshchagin during firing from a coastal installation
        1. boris epstein
          boris epstein 23 June 2020 15: 30 New
          +9
          Soviet production. And they shot the Navy of Ukraine.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 June 2020 15: 38 New
          +3
          Quote: Avior
          Russian P35 hit Vereshchagin during firing from a coastal installation

          In Syria, every second ISIS soldier is armed with a Soviet-made AKM or AK-74 assault rifle, sold by garner boys.
          1. boris epstein
            boris epstein 23 June 2020 15: 53 New
            0
            In fact, Kalash (both Soviet and non-Soviet-made under license produce 8 countries, and without a license, another 58 US including) are armed about 1/3 of the armies of the world.
            1. Charik
              Charik 23 June 2020 22: 00 New
              0
              is boris epstein your real last name?
        3. uav80
          uav80 23 June 2020 15: 41 New
          +1
          Cause of the incident: The captain stupidly * credited all warnings about ongoing exercises. He left the Bosphorus, turned to Skadovsk and at the time of the shooting was in target position.
          It was lucky that there was a blank in the warhead, not a combat charge ...
          1. Avior
            Avior 23 June 2020 16: 03 New
            -7
            The captain did not receive the message, the ship was leased, and the tenant violated the rules, had to inform the captain, his guilt is obvious, as well as the reason for what happened.
            But 13 KCHF warships cordoned off the firing area, not one of them passing by the bulk carrier found that a separate topic, more important in itself than escaping with fright and a small hole in the cabin of the Ukrainian ship.
        4. gurzuf
          gurzuf 23 June 2020 16: 02 New
          0
          So who is to blame if the cap decided to "cut" the corner? wink
      2. Avior
        Avior 23 June 2020 15: 49 New
        -5
        . On April 24.04.2000, 854, the calculation of the 150th coastal missile regiment of the KChF carried out firing from metro Khersones in Sevastopol. A missile launched by the Redut mobile missile system hit the civilian ship Vereshchagino right through, flashing its superstructure. Having flown to the “target” for almost 13 km, a practical rocket (blank) just aimed at the superstructure and at 00:XNUMX got into the starboard side near the porthole of the captain’s cabin and went out through the wall of the corridor along the forehead.

        The electrician who was slightly injured suffered. At 16:00, the approaching RCA R-71 removed the victim and headed for Novoozerny.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 23 June 2020 16: 08 New
          11
          Quote: Avior
          . On April 24.04.2000, 854, the calculation of the 150th coastal missile regiment of the KChF carried out firing from metro Khersones in Sevastopol. A missile launched by the Redut mobile missile system hit the civilian ship Vereshchagino right through, flashing its superstructure. Having flown to the “target” for almost 13 km, a practical rocket (blank) just aimed at the superstructure and at 00:XNUMX got into the starboard side near the porthole of the captain’s cabin and went out through the wall of the corridor along the forehead.


          A notable case illustrating Ukrainian greed and carelessness. yes

          The fact is that the ship entered the declared training area in the hope of “cutting the corner”, saving fuel and time, and thus increasing profits from transportation ....

          "And the oaths are Russian"the whole gesheft fucked up wassat



          WELL INSIDE! good
          1. Avior
            Avior 23 June 2020 16: 12 New
            -12
            The captain did not receive a warning about the shooting.
            But why not a single radar station out of 13 Russian ships that were hitched to the area found a Ukrainian motor ship - this is a big question that is directly tied to real combat effectiveness
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 23 June 2020 16: 23 New
              +4
              Quote: Avior
              The captain did not receive a warning about the shooting.


              Parable of "turkish radio equipment","one receiving, the other not"?

              Tradition is not fresh, and it is hard to believe.

              Quote: Avior
              But why not a single radar station out of 13 Russian ships that were hitched to the area found a Ukrainian motor ship - this is a big question that is directly tied to real combat effectiveness


              I do not think that this can somehow be used as a reproach to the Russian side, and even more so to call into question the combat readiness of the Black Sea Fleet.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 23 June 2020 16: 31 New
              +4
              Quote: Avior
              The captain did not receive a warning about the shooting.

              You can tell this to a person from the plow, but for a sailor it’s babble. The area of ​​combat firing and any exercises shall be notified by NAVIP and NAVIM in advance, where the coordinates of the area and the time are indicated. All information is displayed on the NAVTEX receiver with a letter-printing device. All civilian vessels are required to have it, and it must be on. Just the sloppiness of the captain and his skippers. Sloppiness at sea often leads to tragic consequences.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 23 June 2020 17: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Just the sloppiness of the captain and his skippers. Sloppiness at sea often leads to tragic consequences.

                Not so ...

                It’s not a matter of simple sloppiness, but of the “noble risk” that the captain took to reduce the time to go to the port of destination ...

                You are a sailor, you understand what kind of preferences in finance this gives ...
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 23 June 2020 17: 16 New
                  0
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  It’s not a matter of simple slovenliness, but of the “noble risk” that the captain took to reduce the time to the port of destination ..

                  I believe in Ukrainian "nobility" and the desire to lick the tail of the owner, but it turned out to be a bummer. I always say, you don’t need to lick your tail so hard, you need to quietly, little by little, maybe it’ll carry it over.
                  1. Vrungeli
                    Vrungeli 23 June 2020 17: 32 New
                    0
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    I always say, you don’t need to lick your tail so hard, you need to quietly, little by little, maybe it’ll carry it over.

                    That's right you said .. they’ve already licked and they obviously like this thing .. They don’t know what position to stand in order to please the owner .. Shameful people!
      3. Cristall
        Cristall 23 June 2020 22: 42 New
        -3
        Quote: boris epstein
        it’s instead of the goal to get into the cargo ship Vereshchagin

        nine pluses for data corruption
        Russian P35 hit Vereshchagin during firing from a coastal installation

        eight minuses for the facts.
        Is this a military review or emotions of patriotism cheers above reality?
        April 24, at 13. 25 the Progress cruise missile launched from Cape Khersones with the calculation of the 854th coastal missile regiment of the Russian Black Sea Fleet landed in the Ukrainian river-sea class ship Pavel Vereshchagin (Illichivsk port of registry), which was operated by charter flight from Istanbul to Skadovsk (Kherson region). The vessel was in the northwestern part of the Black Sea 30 miles from Lake Donuzlav, where the naval base of the Ukrainian Navy is located.
        The team saved ... "lunch." But 5 people were injured.
        At the time the rocket hit, the whole team was in the galley - people had lunch, which saved them. Only Ponomarenko remained in the wheelhouse. The missile passed right through the wheelhouse, breaking a hole 2 meters in diameter at the entrance, and 4 meters at the exit.
        Timely assistance was provided to everyone. Ukraine and the Russian Federation did not inflate the incident.
        RF due to timely warnings
        As early as April 14, an application for the transmission of a warning to sailors was submitted by the BSE hydrogeographic service to the Navigation Information Center of Ukraine in Odessa. In accordance with international standards, the warning, starting from April 17, was transmitted six times a day every day through the radio stations of the ports of Odessa and Mariupol, and from April 20 Novorossiysk also connected. The message contained all the required data on the forbidden area dangerous for swimming, including its geographical coordinates and the time of the shooting.
        The current rules stipulate that the responsibility for the systematic reception and delivery of information to ships and vessels of this kind at sea is borne by the leaders of shipowning organizations.

        Ukraine for a reason
        The leadership of Jupiter did not inform the coordination center about this, although, according to existing provisions, it was obliged to immediately inform.
        the captain of the injured ship Vladimir Borisovich Korzhov, according to him, did not know that firing was being carried out in the ship's passage area.
        So, with a break of 4 days to 20, the Ukrainian military caused an incident in Brovary, and the Russian 24 with "Vereshchagin."
        How he missed all 13 ships of the fleet and the entire royal army is incomprehensible. YES and the crew itself is unclear how it turned out and was not informed. More funny, but it could be worse.
        Why attribute the “exploits” of this rocket to Ukraine?
        So you can already attribute the bombing of Grozny to Ukraine too ...
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 23 June 2020 14: 53 New
      -5
      "slightly decrease the accuracy of the hit"? "///

      There was probably an attempt to influence the GPS system in the route area. At first, KR goes on GPS, then its radar captures the target, then IR optics (if any).
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 23 June 2020 15: 12 New
        +9
        Do you believe that Russia is interested in following the flight of the X-35 in the Ukrainian iteration, and even more so, suppressing the signal.
        Do not take the statements of current bloomers seriously.
        And then they already put several of our divisions in only 14-15 years, and in general in their reality a lot of interesting things for psychiatrists
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 23 June 2020 15: 20 New
          +4
          The Russian X-35 and its Ukrainian version of Neptune are a completely modern main "budget" RCC. And to monitor her trials is simply the duty of military intelligence.
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 23 June 2020 15: 22 New
            +3
            And what do we learn new about the Soviet rocket? Despite the fact that we have much more means of combating such a missile.
            1. Avior
              Avior 23 June 2020 16: 04 New
              -8
              The new GOS and the control system on the route has nothing to do with the Soviet one.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 June 2020 15: 42 New
          +4
          Quote: K-612-O
          Do not take the statements of current bloomers seriously.

          Well, how not to take it seriously. The most advanced rocket in the world "Neptune". Trump has already indicated the purchase of this complex, and NATO is abandoning its junk, and is switching to Neptune. So tremble.
      2. Fitter65
        Fitter65 23 June 2020 15: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        There was probably an attempt to influence the GPS system in the route area.

        But how can you make an attempt to influence the GPS system of a Ukrainian missile more than 300 miles from the nearest part of the RF Armed Forces electronic warfare? Maybe just the GPS from the Ukrainian missile was completely copied from the BM-13M missile?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 23 June 2020 15: 26 New
          -1
          Missile guidance systems Ukraine is developing jointly with Turkey, with Turkish (and Belarusian) electronic components. And the rocket hit the target in the video quite normal.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 23 June 2020 15: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            And the rocket hit the target in the video quite normal.

            I, too, in the country, on stray cats learned to hit the target normally.
            1. Avior
              Avior 23 June 2020 16: 05 New
              -8
              But in enlightened Europe, doesn’t the article threaten this?
              1. Fitter65
                Fitter65 23 June 2020 16: 15 New
                +5
                Quote: Avior
                But in enlightened Europe, doesn’t the article threaten this?

                And in Europe there is only one summer house. Giving the correct testimony in the Hague court, and for the fact that he learned to hit the cats that dig the radish from the beds, even we are treated with understanding. laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
                1. Avior
                  Avior 23 June 2020 16: 17 New
                  -4
                  What kind of monsters have you got? smile
                  Maybe it's the rabbits running for carrots? smile
                  1. Fitter65
                    Fitter65 23 June 2020 17: 40 New
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    Maybe it's the rabbits running for carrots?

                    Please explain to me how an animal, a rodent, whose front legs are neither adapted to pull, nor to dig out root crops from the ground, extracts carrots from vegetable gardens? laughing
                    1. Blackvoid
                      Blackvoid 24 June 2020 18: 04 New
                      0
                      digging with front paws very, very good
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 23 June 2020 16: 52 New
                -1
                Quote: Avior
                But in enlightened Europe, doesn’t the article threaten this?

                We are not Europe, but its Tohas, we can.
            2. Vrungeli
              Vrungeli 23 June 2020 17: 37 New
              -2
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: voyaka uh
              And the rocket hit the target in the video quite normal.

              I, too, in the country, on stray cats learned to hit the target normally.

              It is useless to them to prove something .. They are here at home teaching us.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 23 June 2020 18: 09 New
                0
                Quote: Vrungeli
                It is useless for them to prove something.

                I understood this as a cadet, so I do not pay attention. If you tell him something, he doesn’t hear you, he only hears himself.
              2. Fitter65
                Fitter65 23 June 2020 18: 29 New
                +4
                Quote: Vrungeli
                It is useless to them to prove something .. They are here at home teaching us.

                So we are at home, and everywhere. Where we are and people are kinder, and joyful children and old people live longer ... But we are leaving, and your old people are already superfluous, and the children of parents who have gone to a foreign land in search of a better life do not see ... What can I say , because it’s only angels who are lighter and kinder RUSSIANS, it’s useless to argue ... But to teach you, just waste time and ruin your health, we RUSSIANS are saints, we even Hungarians who burned our cities and villages were pardoned twice, we were executioners who served maniac hitler-given the opportunity to live. We raised from the ruins those who, along with Hitler, burned our cities and villages ... Therefore, we have the right to teach you, kindly without malice ...
                1. Vrungeli
                  Vrungeli 23 June 2020 18: 53 New
                  0
                  Quote: Fitter65
                  Therefore, WE have the right to instruct you, kindly without malice ..

                  It’s all cunningly stated, it’s in your blood ... laughing
                  Something you have a lot of "uchitel" divorced in Russia by the media and the Internet .. And so sweetly sing so far ...
                  But Russia is impoverished .. Do not believe the Danians bringing gifts!
                  Oh look ... Think about it, Hitler, as I understand it, was also soaked from Tashkent under your leadership?
                  1. Fitter65
                    Fitter65 24 June 2020 01: 35 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Vrungeli
                    But Russia is poor.

                    Oh, another foreign mourner in Russia turned up. When Hitler soaked me also there was no trace.
          2. Fitter65
            Fitter65 23 June 2020 16: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            And the rocket hit the target in the video quite normal.

            And where is the confirmation of the impact of electronic warfare of the RF Armed Forces. Or again, ... it is entirely possible, or ... with some degree of probability ... but they probably would have done it if they wanted to ... and they don’t know what they should do at all ... So, what version do you like and choose it, and you already know what to throw on the fan, you have enough experience ... hi
        2. Avior
          Avior 23 June 2020 15: 51 New
          -8
          Theoretically, there could be an airplane outside the area closed for firing.
          But there is nothing about this anywhere.
          1. Fitter65
            Fitter65 23 June 2020 16: 28 New
            +3
            Quote: Avior
            Theoretically, there could be an airplane outside the area closed for firing.

            Well, that is, you are for the option - “it is quite possible” ... Although, again, here you can get a little overwhelmed, because you did not indicate either the type of aircraft or its capabilities in terms of electronic warfare (well, such as KHIBINS, well, or just a club, well or the Su-57 was tested for the possibility of missile defense), neither the place where the aircraft was based, nor when it was refueled, neither the type of TK, nor the APA number, nor the photo of the Russian military in parachute passing by the bus ...
            1. Avior
              Avior 23 June 2020 16: 57 New
              -9
              Read what I wrote again
              Theoretically, it could be a plane.
              But really, there are really no reports of such an aircraft.
              Everything seems to be clear
              1. Fitter65
                Fitter65 23 June 2020 17: 43 New
                +3
                Quote: Avior
                Read what I wrote again
                Theoretically, it could be a plane.

                And you just think it over if it doesn't bother you hi that I answered you. Again hi My grandmother, 50 years ago, forbade me to laugh at the wretchedhi hi
                1. Avior
                  Avior 23 June 2020 18: 56 New
                  -4
                  Everything is obvious there. If jeepies were used, it could only be from an airplane.
                  But no one reported that there was such an airplane.

                  And your grandmother gave you good advice.
                  1. Fitter65
                    Fitter65 24 June 2020 01: 40 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Avior
                    If jeepies were used, it could only be from an airplane.

                    And if not used? And why only from an airplane, because they could also have a repeater from a stationary object via satellite ...
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 June 2020 16: 33 New
          0
          Quote: Fitter65
          Maybe just the GPS from the Ukrainian missile was completely copied from the BM-13M missile?

          Bought in the Chinese market.
        4. mark2
          mark2 23 June 2020 20: 59 New
          0
          Yes, these clowns put in the guidance head a simple road navigator with katami from Nvitel and even forgot to update it. Here she is a little off target and deviated.
      3. Avior
        Avior 23 June 2020 15: 21 New
        -9
        This is what was discussed in the original article.
        Why the subtlety that it was about suppressing satellite navigation signals disappeared into the VO, one can only guess
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 23 June 2020 16: 38 New
          +6
          Quote: Avior
          Why the subtlety that it was about suppressing satellite navigation signals disappeared into the VO, one can only guess

          And was she? Subtlety something. There is such a sow with a waist of 3 meters, we almost didn’t get there, because Russia was in the way. We could not lift Mriya-2 into the sky - Russia did not deliver the missing parts. We could not build a single aircraft in 6 years - Russia is to blame, we pay for the repair of old and decommissioned boats - which the USA-Russia gave us to blame. By the way, do you know why in Russia today there is less smell of feces? Why, Russia is now underfeeding Ukraine, and now they have almost nothing to shit on our porch with ... hi hi
    4. svp67
      svp67 23 June 2020 14: 56 New
      +6
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Explain to me the term "slightly reduce the accuracy of the hit"?

      Do you know what a kilometer with a hook is? Here “a little bit” this is that “hook” and it happens much more than the kilometer itself ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 June 2020 15: 52 New
        +4
        Quote: svp67
        Do you know what a kilometer with a hook "?

        Russian "hook", this is a unique size. I have 20 kilometers before the hitch, and if the eldest son asks, I tell him “20 kilometers with a hook”, and if the youngest son, I tell him “Three kilometers with a hook”.
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 23 June 2020 16: 50 New
          +4
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Russian "hook", this is a unique size. I have 20 kilometers to get

          Again, 20 km from the garage, shop, asphalt, highway, or outskirts? drinks laughing Guys before wintering how much to go? Well, it depends how, if through gauze, it depends where you sit, how quickly you reach the village while you find a tractor driver, and if it’s two hours on the way laughing laughing Nothing improves UAZ passability like Ural-4320 good laughing drinks
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 23 June 2020 17: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: Fitter65
            Again, 20 km from the garage, shop, asphalt, highway, or outskirts? Guys before wintering how much to go?

            Well that's me too. You need to walk on foot, the elder is still at least 20 km, at least 30 km. But then small at once, "I won’t go more than 3 km," therefore I say "three with a hook."
            1. Fitter65
              Fitter65 23 June 2020 17: 50 New
              +1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              then immediately small, "I won’t go more than 3 km" therefore I say "three with a hook

              Not the right approach. laughing As the Far Eastern mileage-Vaughn explained to me, you see a leaf at a bend? And behind the top of the hill? Here’s how we’ll get around the hill, just in 1,5 hours and the winter hut will be. laughing good drinks
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 23 June 2020 17: 54 New
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                Quote: Fitter65
                Not the right approach. As the Far Eastern mileage-Vaughn explained to me, you see a leaf at a bend? And behind the top of the hill? Here’s how we’ll get around the hill, just in 1,5 hours and the winter hut will be.

                The younger one was not born in Transbaikalia, for him the taiga and the hill, not to mention a swamp or a stone river, is that for an American to go on a picnic outside the city.
                1. Fitter65
                  Fitter65 23 June 2020 18: 19 New
                  +1
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  The younger one was not born in Transbaikalia,

                  And no matter, taiga are not born, they become. drinks
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 23 June 2020 18: 37 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Fitter65
                    And no matter, taiga are not born, they become.

                    So the answer is that the child was not born in the taiga, like me, but in the taiga he is only a guest. With my grandfather, I stomped my feet all the taiga from the age of five, but for him this is something incomprehensible, wild. For them, sitting at home with a computer is more convenient. Although the senior is the opposite.
                    1. Fitter65
                      Fitter65 23 June 2020 18: 44 New
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                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      So the answer is that the child was not born in the taiga,

                      I have an older granddaughter from 4 years old who goes fishing with me. It is worth 5 at the store in the store that he chooses a fishing rod, a man asks how much a kid is, yes, a 5-year-old girl, he’s damn my 8 and I can’t get him out of the river. He asks for mountain fishing, but then of course he would be glad and early for 10 years so far. For a mountain river, easy; for a grandfather, it’s difficult to drag through rifts. laughing
                      1. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 23 June 2020 21: 11 New
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                        Quote: Fitter65
                        I have an older granddaughter from 4 years old who goes fishing with me. It is worth 5 at the store in the store that he chooses a fishing rod, a man asks how old a boy is, yes, a girl is 5 years old,

                        At the age of 7, I also received a single-barrel from my grandfather for my birthday, my mother fainted. Up to 16 years roamed the taiga. And the children were already born in Estonia. The elder is the same frostbitten “guran” as I am, but the little one is a mom, home. But I love them all, it's my blood, and my ancestors.
    5. Fitter65
      Fitter65 23 June 2020 15: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Explain to me the term "slightly reduce the accuracy of the hit"? belay laughing

      a card is taken, any, from kilometer to 10 worms, put a dot at the end of the sentence, well, look at which pencil you hit. This is to slightly reduce the accuracy of the hit. laughing drinks
    6. Stepan S
      Stepan S 23 June 2020 15: 47 New
      +1
      Well, miss it
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 23 June 2020 16: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Stepan S
        Well, miss it

        Why? 10-ka also happens to be a bribe, that at "Stalingrad", that at a meager. laughing laughing laughing
    7. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 25 June 2020 17: 05 New
      0
      Explain to me the term "slightly reduce the accuracy of the hit"?


      -That ...
      https://media.zvezdaweekly.ru/storage/default/2018/05/07/63ef5cfa879848afbd201e00e301f177.jpg
      - Tired ... and flew by ....
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 June 2020 14: 29 New
    15
    Someone in the Crimea heated a dinner in the microwave and did not know that Neptune was so tender.
    1. AVA77
      AVA77 23 June 2020 14: 36 New
      +3
      A neighbor of the leggings on a rope was drying, and that was a little light. wink
      1. svp67
        svp67 23 June 2020 14: 57 New
        +4
        Quote: AVA77
        A neighbor of the leggings on a rope was drying, and that was a little light.

        Yes, no ... there the fish died in the zatots ...
      2. Fitter65
        Fitter65 23 June 2020 15: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: AVA77
        A neighbor of the leggings on a rope was drying, and that was a little light. wink

        Phew, is it like that, sweaty and immediately to dry on a rope? !!!! She will poison the whole microdistrict ... laughing laughing laughing
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 June 2020 15: 55 New
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          Quote: Fitter65
          Fu, she’s like that, sweaty and immediately to dry on a rope ?!

          At least rinsed.
          1. Fitter65
            Fitter65 23 June 2020 16: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Fitter65
            Fu, she’s like that, sweaty and immediately to dry on a rope ?!

            At least rinsed.

            And how to entice Neptune, Schaub means a little deviated from the target ... laughing laughing laughing
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 23 June 2020 16: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: Fitter65
              And how to entice Neptune, Schaub means a little deviated from the target.

              And that’s right, then let the month not take off, Neptune he knows where to fly.
  5. Doccor18
    Doccor18 23 June 2020 14: 30 New
    +7
    this will slightly decrease the accuracy of the hit

    An epithet worthy of the classics.
  6. antivirus
    antivirus 23 June 2020 14: 31 New
    +5
    all Soviet legacy - not yours, Bandera-Kohlyatsky. abandon the Dnieper and others.
  7. askort154
    askort154 23 June 2020 14: 34 New
    +6
    It is alleged that the Russian side used electronic warfare equipment to change the course of the missile and thereby reduce the likelihood of hitting the target.

    As Zelensky later explained, Putin and Shoigu were sitting at the EW panels. "Quarter 95" - continues to amuse the Ukrainian people.
  8. Threaded screw
    Threaded screw 23 June 2020 14: 34 New
    +3
    the Russian side used electronic warfare to change the course of the rocket
    Given the accuracy with which rockets are fired in Ukraine, everyone prays that she should hit the target, and not into the ship or plane ...
  9. 5-9
    5-9 23 June 2020 14: 38 New
    +4
    unable to knock off or disable a Tomahawk or Ukrainian Neptune cruise missile

    The haberdashery and the cardinal together are power ..... even here they couldn’t help but lick ... I’ll think there will be a series of articles
    - Russian shepiguns interfere with the allocation of money for Neptune
    - Putin's agents stole the allocated money
    - terrorist saboteurs carried out terrorist sabotage and therefore all 3 Neptune will be made not in 20200, but in 2025.
    - as a result of the attack, all released Neptunes in the amount of 1 piece disappeared from the HF.
    And everywhere it is necessary to add "Omerygasnam" ... they have hung the flag of the 3-2 races to their Motherland, and they have been dewed
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 23 June 2020 14: 39 New
    +4
    Russia tried to disrupt the final tests of the Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missile, using electronic warfare systems (EW). This statement was made by the Ukrainian consulting agency Defense Express, citing representatives of the design bureau Luch.

    Well, yes, if it crashes or explodes, then ... it’s clear who will be to blame.
    Not new ... but the mortars they are tearing, too ... someone from the outside is to blame?
  11. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 23 June 2020 14: 40 New
    +5
    An empty blank is not afraid of any electronic warfare! Where they pulled there and flies! wassat
  12. paul72
    paul72 23 June 2020 14: 42 New
    +1
    Did Hutsul report on the food paramogue?
  13. Wedmak
    Wedmak 23 June 2020 15: 02 New
    0
    Risk to check? In Syria, over half of something did not reach its goals. Somehow suddenly. And this craft will reach only the border of the defeat of the first air defense system in its path.
  14. Baloo
    Baloo 23 June 2020 15: 02 New
    +2
    What can I say. 95th quarter is a national feature of Ukraine, its brand.
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  16. sleeve
    sleeve 23 June 2020 15: 05 New
    0
    Pancake. He seems to mow them not weakly. Dangerous.
  17. Zacvasetskiy
    Zacvasetskiy 23 June 2020 15: 18 New
    +3
    So if there is no electronics in the rocket, the stump is clear that electronic warfare is not scary! wassat
  18. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 23 June 2020 15: 24 New
    +3
    Well now, "a mustache" ... Ukraine will become a hegemon. and will be able to dictate the terms of Russia and the United States ...
  19. Kibl
    Kibl 23 June 2020 16: 06 New
    0
    The Ukrainian child prodigy like Fort Knox is not attacked! Well, the child prodigy, child prodigy, waffle, waffle are right !!! Quickly everyone has resolved the wafer in the air !!!
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  21. Dimon Dimonov_2
    Dimon Dimonov_2 23 June 2020 16: 36 New
    0
    Hiley Likely ... = o)
  22. APASUS
    APASUS 23 June 2020 17: 10 New
    +2
    How can a steam locomotive be brought down with the help of electronic warfare ................... no way!
  23. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 23 June 2020 18: 12 New
    0
    And how can EW be afraid of flying missiles?
  24. Asad
    Asad 23 June 2020 19: 03 New
    0
    Dreamers!
  25. Cristall
    Cristall 23 June 2020 23: 00 New
    -2
    Russia tried to disrupt the final tests of the Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missile, using electronic warfare systems (EW). This statement was made by the Ukrainian consulting agency Defense Express, citing representatives of the design bureau Luch.

    Defense Express did not write this.
    It is alleged that the Russian side used electronic warfare equipment to change the course of the missile and thereby reduce the likelihood of hitting the target. The agency calls the second variant of the use of electronic warfare to collect information about the Ukrainian missile. However, according to Defense Express, no electronic warfare systems were able to prevent the latest Ukrainian missile from accurately hitting the target.

    Decide already - "tried to disrupt" or "change course" ... And then the two paragraphs contradict each other.
    Original Defense Express
    The yak became the defense Express in half an hour, the yachts passed 17 worms, before the closed closed hour in the water sector, the ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, and they were soaked up with shortcuts to suppress the missiles.

    EW to suppress control and guidance of the CR. That is the second option in the article. And the first is for a loud heading.
    It is bad that you constantly have to check in. Constantly! And there were times when the Military Review was itself the primary source of immutable truth and weighty evidence of the original source.
    for the remaining mammoths IN
  26. vmo
    vmo 24 June 2020 09: 40 New
    0
    why bother with something that does not fly and practically does not exist, Ukrainians in their role.
  27. K-50
    K-50 24 June 2020 12: 19 New
    0
    EW "Neptune" is not afraid: in Kiev they accuse Russia of trying to influence the new anti-ship missiles. EW "Neptune" is not afraid: in Kiev, they accuse Russia of trying to influence the new anti-ship missiles

    So all the same, not afraid of “Neptune” EW or is it amenable to impact? You already decide on the general position there later and arrange a screech. And it turns out that the hands are crooked, they can’t do it normally, and the neighbor is to blame. lol
  28. Eugene Besfamilny
    Eugene Besfamilny 24 June 2020 19: 44 New
    0
    EW is not afraid of a flying brick! This discovery was made by the Sumerian media.