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HSE considers Forbes the best university in Russia

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The Forbes publication has a rating of Russian universities. This is the third such study conducted by the journal.


According to the published rating, the Higher School of Economics became the winner in the 2019-2020 academic year. The publication evaluated universities by a 100-point system, according to which the HSE earned 68,07 points, which became the highest indicator in Russia. In that year, the institution took only eighth place, and the National Research Technological University (MISiS) was the leader. This year, his rating collapsed and reached 16th place, according to the Forbes version.

At the same time, the authors of the study themselves say that such sharp jumps are in no way connected with the situation in Russian higher education, but occurred as a result of changes in the technology of scoring.

Second place this year was taken by Moscow State University. To a large extent, this was due to the high appreciation by employers of the professional qualities of its graduates.

In the past and this academic year, the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology took the third line in the ranking, although the remaining universities randomly moved around the list in 2020.

In addition to these universities, the Forbes version of the five leaders this year included the Ural Federal University named after Yeltsin and the National Research Nuclear University MEPhI, respectively.

HSE has long been a forge of personnel (mainly of the ultra-liberal type) for Russian ministries and departments, for companies from large business, companies often with a share of foreign capital. At the same time, representatives of the faculty of the Higher School of Economics are increasingly becoming defendants in scandals, including scandals related to statements about the Russian language.

For reference: among HSE graduates, there are such people as Maxim Oreshkin (former head of the Ministry of Economic Development, Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation), Anastasia Volochkova (ballerina, socialite “lioness”), Andrey Vorobyov (governor of the Moscow Region).
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  1. marchcat
    marchcat 23 June 2020 13: 56
    53
    Forbes take this HSE for yourself, for God's sake!
    1. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 23 June 2020 14: 13
      38
      And all the graduates of the HSE.
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 23 June 2020 15: 17
        +7
        It happened as a result of changes in the technology of scoring.
        This is the main thing! The famous - it doesn’t matter how they vote, it is important how we calculate!
    2. Vrungeli
      Vrungeli 23 June 2020 16: 53
      +8
      Quote: marchcat
      Forbes take this HSE for yourself, for God's sake!

      Also, such an idea came .. The best university they say, yes there is "an aspen nest of liberoids and others" ...))) Ugh, damn it ..
      Quote: Sergey39
      Forbes opinion as a black mark.

      good Here is the most accurate definition of all comments !!!!!!!
    3. Yaro Polk
      Yaro Polk 23 June 2020 17: 44
      +8
      Well, if it was said by the bourgeois Anglo-Saxon-Russophobic FORBES, then the most crappy university working for the collapse of Russia. winked
      I think everyone remembers that freak from the HSE who said about the Russian language ...
      \\\\\\\
      * Professor of the Faculty of Humanities of the Higher School of Economics, Doctor of Philology Hasan Huseynov on his Facebook page wrote about the Russian language, using the epithets “wretched” and “cloacal”.
  2. Sergey39
    Sergey39 23 June 2020 13: 57
    34
    Forbes opinion as a black mark.
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 23 June 2020 14: 12
      20
      HSE: there is a school, but no economy.
      1. AUL
        AUL 23 June 2020 14: 54
        +4
        I would very much like to know by what method the assessment was made, by what criteria.
        1. Poetry
          Poetry 23 June 2020 15: 19
          +3
          Jane Psaki is a graduate of a very cool university. laughingI have such suspicions.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 23 June 2020 15: 36
      12
      Quote: Sergey39
      Forbes opinion as a black mark.

      That's all right. If they praised it in the west, then you can safely close it. The rule is simple and old, if they scold, then Russia is doing everything right, if they praise, you understand. I was especially touched by the Yeltsin Ural Federal University.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 23 June 2020 19: 12
        +7
        Quote: orionvitt
        I was especially touched by the Yeltsin Ural Federal University.

        Well it is necessary to freeze such garbage that such a name "Yeltsin's name" would spoil the Ural Federal University.
    3. venik
      venik 23 June 2020 16: 15
      11
      Quote: Sergey39
      Forbes opinion as a black mark.

      =======
      Still would! MISIS (Moscow Institute of Steel and Alloys) - on the 16th place ???? belay My great-aunt worked there - after the "deadline" came to her bow down! She was surprised: For what?
      - Well, you developed the "broniki"!
      - And ????
      - So he (your "bronik") my life saved! The back is a continuous bruise, the fabric is "in rags" .... A plates - withstood!!! None holes !!!
      ------
      PS Well, let the "sorosyatniks" of the "sorosyatniks" praise: now it is definitely clear - in WHOM spit it is necessary!
      1. the finish
        the finish 23 June 2020 17: 56
        0
        Ms. went to the hostel to visit the girls!
  3. Invoce
    Invoce 23 June 2020 13: 58
    20
    The rating is somehow biased!
    - HSE - first place (gathering place for odious liberals)
    sharp jumps are not connected in any way with the situation in Russian higher education, but occurred as a result of changes in the technology for scoring.

    What is the technology of counting? By the number of articles against Russia?
    - Moscow State University - second place. Why the second, when the contribution to research and education is the most significant?
    - MEPhI - third place! Probably for the creation of the department of theology and theology!
    - The Ural Federal University named after Yeltsin ended up in the ranking after Moscow State University !!! It’s not clear why not on the second? after all, Yekaterinburg is the main bastion of liberalism in the southern Urals!
    Everything is biased!
    You evaluate universities by their contribution to science, or by their contribution to the development of "American" democracy ...
    Then everything will fall into place
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 23 June 2020 14: 34
      +1
      Quote: Invoce
      The rating is somehow biased!

      Well, you read how points are formed, right?
    2. neri73-r
      neri73-r 23 June 2020 15: 20
      0
      Quote: Invoce
      after all, Yekaterinburg is the main bastion of liberalism in the southern Urals!

      Yöburg, this is the middle Urals. South Chelyaba, Orenburg and Bashkiria. hi But there is enough liberty.
      1. KAV
        KAV 24 June 2020 20: 35
        0
        Quote: neri73-r
        Yöburg, this is the middle Urals. South Chelyaba, Orenburg and Bashkiria.

        I still did not understand which map you are looking at, but Orenburg and Bashkiria are not the Urals, but the Volga region.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 25 June 2020 10: 03
          0
          Quote: KAV
          I still did not understand which map you are looking at, but Orenburg and Bashkiria are not the Urals, but the Volga region.

          By this -
          The Southern Urals is the widest part of the Ural Mountains, located in three regions: the Republic of Bashkortostan, the Orenburg and Chelyabinsk regions

          And secondly, I have been there, in particular, I had a rest on the "Bath Lake", in "Abzakov" and others. Luxurious ski resorts. And Jöburg is a favorite city, he lived there for 6 years during his studies at the university.
  4. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 23 June 2020 14: 00
    13
    Volochkova is a graduate of HSE? Does her diploma somehow help to sit on the twine?
  5. Poetry
    Poetry 23 June 2020 14: 01
    12
    Is it because there is a hotbed of any kind of contra?
    1. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 23 June 2020 14: 15
      +8
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      This is because there is a hotbed of any kind of contra

      HSE graduates - socks, minister, sparrows, governor of mo, oreshkin, assistant to the sun. Plus deputy director of Russian Railways, members of the Federation Council, government advisers, heads of city administrations, members of edra, etc. .. etc.
      Why so? Well, what does the main thing above him surround himself with contractions? Or maybe he is not a kibalchish at all? Or is he even a bad guy distributing a barrel of jam among his brothers in spirit? lol
  6. Far B
    Far B 23 June 2020 14: 01
    10
    HSE is the best university, a forge of personnel for ministries and departments, Nabiullina is the best central banker, Kudrin is the best minister of finance ... That's why we live in such a way that all other countries of the world envy us. Wait Putin will be reset to zero - and finally we will rustle!
  7. Alexga
    Alexga 23 June 2020 14: 03
    19
    Yeah, the best at training specialists to plunder your state!
    1. Junior Private
      Junior Private 23 June 2020 14: 54
      +5
      The HSE is one of the many tools of the fat elites that "scientifically" justifies their existence.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 June 2020 15: 11
      +4
      Quote: AlexGa
      Yeah, the best at training specialists to plunder your state!

      HSE is the best university in the West and the USA, but not Russia.
  8. Poetry
    Poetry 23 June 2020 14: 04
    11
    Serebrennikov is the best theater director, and the best radio is "Echo of Moscow". So, what?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 23 June 2020 14: 16
      +6
      For themselves - certainly so.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 June 2020 15: 13
      +3
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      Serebrennikov is the best theater director, and the best radio is "Echo of Moscow". So, what?

      Of course it is. Only not in Russia, but in the west.
    3. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 23 June 2020 15: 17
      +3
      Quote: Poetiszaugla
      Serebrennikov is the best theater director,

      In the near future - among the FSIN clients. yes
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 23 June 2020 15: 24
        +2
        Such people are needed by amateur camp activities. Count up, "prisoners" with evil "sharpeners" shout to him: "Bravo! Bravissimo!"
  9. IC
    IC 23 June 2020 14: 05
    +8
    Rating of universities, along with beauty contests and musical hit parades.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 23 June 2020 14: 07
    12
    If praised, it's THEIR NEST !!! This has already reached all sane people ... but, apparently, a letter of protection has been written on them from the very top, not ours, moreover!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 June 2020 15: 13
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      If praised, it's THEIR NEST !!!

      Each sandpiper praises its swamp.
  11. Roman123567
    Roman123567 23 June 2020 14: 08
    +5
    What is meant by the definition - the best ??
    Without banter ..
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 23 June 2020 14: 15
      +9
      It implements the recommendations of the IMF and correctly teaches the future Russian elite, which will come to power in 20 years.
      1. Oleg Skvortsov
        Oleg Skvortsov 23 June 2020 14: 19
        10
        At the word - the elite - you see fat pedigree pigs near the state trough laughing laughing
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 23 June 2020 14: 20
          +3
          I have exactly the same associations.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 June 2020 15: 15
        0
        Quote: Pereira
        It implements the recommendations of the IMF and correctly teaches the future Russian elite, which will come to power in 20 years.

        Right in the eye, you as a seer feel the reality.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 23 June 2020 15: 35
          0
          I’m ready at any moment to exchange my visionary gift for another reality for all of us.
    2. doubovitski
      doubovitski 23 June 2020 14: 33
      +8
      Quote: Roman123567
      What is meant by the definition - the best ??
      Without banter ..

      The number of graduates of this educational institution, which has switched over to serve in the interests of the enemies of Russia. Both domestically and abroad.
  12. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 June 2020 14: 10
    10
    And what Forbes has to do with the ratings of educational institutions. Or they began to forget about the HSE, for a long time with its teachers, at the media level, there were no scandals. The owners are reminded that the "smoking room" is still alive or an iceberg of money from the USA has appeared on the horizon.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 June 2020 17: 08
      0
      Quote: tralflot1832
      or an iceberg of money from the USA appeared on the horizon.

      Soras promised a grand toss, if they behave well.
  13. Pereira
    Pereira 23 June 2020 14: 13
    10
    Forbes rating is a denunciation.
    This is an open warning to the whole world that HSE is a foreign agent for Russia.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 June 2020 17: 09
      0
      Quote: Pereira
      This is an open warning to the whole world that HSE is a foreign agent for Russia.

      Well, yes, "we are ready for anything, just drive the dollars."
  14. seacap
    seacap 23 June 2020 14: 14
    17
    HSE is the most important think tank serving the Russian "elite". HSE is an instrument of external governance of Russia.
    It is noteworthy that the HSE not only created the International Institute of Economics and Finance, but created it together with the London School of Economics. At the end of the undergraduate and postgraduate studies of this institute, two diplomas are awarded: one from the Higher School of Economics, and the other from the London School of Economics, with all the ensuing results, one can imagine what knowledge and ideology the Anglo-Saxons hammer and plant there.
    The beginning of the ultra-liberalization of the USSR / RF economy was facilitated by the support of the Soros Foundation, which provided a one-year grant to Gorbachev in 1989. Further, the Soros Foundation already in 1990 financed the stay in the USA of a group of developers of a program to destroy the Soviet economy, such as the “500 days” led by G. Yavlinsky, and later members of the “Gaidar team”
    And created in 1992 by the last decree of the outgoing Prime Minister Yegor Gaidar, the HSE initially brought together prominent figures in Yeltsin’s reforms, Western consultants and was called upon to bear definite, ultra-liberal views on the future of the country. However, the most fertile field for HSE's expert activity opened in the 2000s, when the liberal age of Russian liberalism began with the advent of liberals in the government (Kudrin, Nabiullina, Gref, etc.).
    Something like that, if briefly about this instrument of neo-colonial external management, by the way, in many issues tied up and interacting with the Soros Foundation (this is another "song" no less exciting)
  15. Junior Private
    Junior Private 23 June 2020 14: 17
    12
    At HSE, they will not be able to explain:
    1. What do economists do?
    2. Why do their predictions come true less often than astrologers and palmists?
    3. Why did people live better without economists, and with the advent of defective managers from the economy and management, people have to tighten their belts every year?
    4. The Nobel question: why in the commonplace truths of economic institutions it is argued that price increases and inflation are good, but under Comrade Stalin, after the devastating Great Patriotic War, not only did the economy recover, but prices fell.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 June 2020 15: 07
      +2
      Because there used to be a planned economy that ultimately was blown away in its self-closure by a bias on the military-industrial complex and support for half the world for thanks. Russia has been in the market for 30 years and no one at its own expense to provide all sorts of freeloaders or build enterprises that are obviously unprofitable, of which thousands were built in the USSR for the sake of medals and promotion in the party. They will build what will bring money to the state and create competitive products - no one will produce any unnecessary rubbish to fill warehouses at their own expense - everyone lives differently, someone is better someone is worse. Unfortunately, after the Second World War the USSR Union did not recover despite the production of hundreds of thousands of tractors for combines creating thousands of state farms and so on. And prices probably fell because more than a trillion rubles were taken from the population during the war for this very war, they decided to compensate for what they took, but there was not enough money in Siberia in the Urals and the Far East to modernize everything in the country after the war as everything was in disrepair that’s how it all remained until the 60s, even the chronicle could be seen in the USSR mechanical engineering, the captured German factories and equipment of the machine tools alone took 344000 out of Germany and deliveries from Lend Liz helped the USSR again save time and money on R&D as an example of oil production equipment from the USA.
      1. tank64rus
        tank64rus 24 June 2020 13: 08
        0
        Well, now it would be HSE and show itself in the best light. I wonder how much pseudoscientific rubbish this "school" gave out. and why all these years we have NO normal economy.
  16. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 23 June 2020 14: 19
    +6
    If we are praised, then we are doing something in principle wrong.
    What conclusion?
    So all graduates of this university are a priori enemies of the Russian people and this almshouse should be closed. Demolish buildings, pour plenty of napalm and sprinkle with salt.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 23 June 2020 14: 21
      +3
      Close, in the sense of boarding the doors and windows from the outside, so as not to pop out? Not bad, not bad.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 23 June 2020 14: 25
        +5
        I'm not so bloodthirsty, but I like the idea. In fact, a quarter of a century on the construction of the Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky-Magadan-Vladivostok highway with picks, shovels and wheelbarrows will completely help the neophytes to understand what kind of economy we need and what really needs to be done ...
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 23 June 2020 15: 17
          0
          It’s simpler with special equipment - but it makes no sense to make such a road, it will be damn expensive in materials and maintenance, no one will sit thousands of kilometers behind the steering wheel - there are several orders of magnitude cheaper hypersonic passenger airliner to build and fly for an hour throughout Russia, here a bridge to Sakhalin must be dealt with.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 June 2020 15: 29
          +2
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          In fact, a quarter of a century on the construction of the Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky-Magadan-Vladivostok highway with picks, shovels and wheelbarrows will completely help the neophytes to realize what kind of economy we need and what really needs to be done ...
          The Trans-Siberian Railway, the longest on the planet, was commissioned 100 years ago. Its length is 9288,2 km. The starting point of the Trans-Siberian Railway is the Yaroslavl Station in Moscow, and the final point is the Vladivostok Station. It was built 25 years, the road passes through 8 time zones, through Europe and Asia, 11 regions, 5 territories, two republics and one autonomous region, 88 cities, crosses 16 major rivers. The main force is horsepower. During the construction, many famous engineers at that time in Russia participated in the project. Among them, Orest Vyazemsky was very popular. If graduates of the Higher School of Economics had built it, then they still would not have built it.
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 23 June 2020 14: 42
      +3
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      all graduates of this university are a priori enemies of the Russian people
      That's bad luck. We have many ministers, economists, governors, and other serious personalities from the president’s circle who are graduates of the HSE and this turns out to be enemies of the people. How did it happen ?! belay
    3. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 23 June 2020 16: 24
      0
      And what did you finish, if not a secret? Interesting.
  17. doubovitski
    doubovitski 23 June 2020 14: 29
    +8
    The fact that the graduate of this brothel Volochkova, says that he needs to be dispersed to hell.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 23 June 2020 22: 38
      -1
      Return Volochkova back to the brothel.
  18. Doccor18
    Doccor18 23 June 2020 14: 32
    +3
    mostly ultra-liberal) for Russian ministries and departments

    Well, how can I not give the first place
  19. 1536
    1536 23 June 2020 14: 35
    +3
    It is known that the cuckoo praises the cock for praising the cuckoo.
  20. ZVS
    ZVS 23 June 2020 14: 36
    +6
    Someone would doubt such an assessment by Forbes. HSE trains liberals, i.e. fifth column in Russia.
  21. codetalker
    codetalker 23 June 2020 14: 38
    +6
    Well, there is nothing surprising. The question is, how would we dump this "louse" from the body of Russia ....
  22. Ura Orlov
    Ura Orlov 23 June 2020 15: 00
    +2
    Academics to the answer: 2x10 = 20 or 2x10 = 1024? Well, what is right? The question is not for schoolchildren and students, but adult uncles Academics. And then you will fool our little children, and rob the adults on a salary.
  23. Hagalaz
    Hagalaz 23 June 2020 15: 03
    +5
    We have long learned that in the West we are criticized, in fact, to the benefit of Russia. If praised, it is harmful to us.
  24. Poetry
    Poetry 23 June 2020 15: 04
    +5
    Of course, in all these ratings, American universities occupy all the first lines. The graduates of these "leaders" confuse Iran and Iraq, Sweden and Switzerland. Just please don't ask them to find anything on the world map, otherwise you will shrink from laughter.
  25. kriten
    kriten 23 June 2020 15: 18
    +2
    Still would! After all, this is an incubator for training traitors for the Russian authorities.
  26. Fitter
    Fitter 23 June 2020 18: 21
    +2
    Naturally. For at HSE, Russophobes, anti-Soviet scholars and liberds study and teach.
  27. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 23 June 2020 19: 18
    +1
    Kst. many large companies have already been burned in these frames, because they can be easily lured for a great career money, and even industry ethics do not stop them if the jackpot is worth it.
  28. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 23 June 2020 19: 26
    +1
    What is the difference, how many patriots are there, if the result of the work is entirely anti-Russian?
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Volochkova is a graduate of HSE? Does her diploma somehow help to sit on the twine?

    Why does she need a HSE diploma? belay
  29. vindigo
    vindigo 23 June 2020 19: 41
    +1
    Judging by the state of the country, economists are letting out worthless people there.
  30. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 23 June 2020 19: 50
    +1
    It would be nice for all of his graduates to go directly to the jail or to the wall.
  31. Victorio
    Victorio 23 June 2020 19: 52
    0
    HSE has long been a forge of personnel (mainly of the ultra-liberal type) for Russian ministries and departments, for companies from large business, companies often with a share of foreign capital.
    ===
    I don’t know how people are being forged there nowadays, but at the beginning of the XNUMXs, the general director "studied", except for acquaintances and get-togethers, and received nothing.
  32. Severok
    Severok 23 June 2020 22: 20
    0
    Of course, HSE is the best, because its graduates produce excellent manure! The highest quality - from salmon and beluga caviar, from smoked balyk and oysters! That's just nothing more useful these graduates are not able to produce. Here to break up, to sell - it is please!
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  34. NordUral
    NordUral 24 June 2020 00: 04
    -1
    Why not praise your own. Take them to yourself, we’ll pay extra. And we will give away all releases from this adder in addition, for free, i.e. is free.
  35. Joker62
    Joker62 24 June 2020 04: 04
    0
    HSE is a true breeding ground for liberalists and the fifth column! Let him take this Forbes magazine, we do not need such universities in Russia.
  36. tank64rus
    tank64rus 24 June 2020 13: 04
    0
    “The HSE has long become a source of personnel (mostly of an ultraliberal nature) for Russian ministries and departments, for large business companies, companies often with foreign capital. At the same time, representatives of the HSE faculty are increasingly becoming involved in scandals, including scandals related to statements about the Russian language. " And yet, representatives of LGBT people of various orientations feel comfortable there. Breeding ground.
  37. nnz226
    nnz226 24 June 2020 13: 08
    0
    HSE can only be used in hard physical work somewhere in the Kolyma, where they can use a pick and a shovel to prove the correctness of their liberal economic theories!
  38. Evil 55
    Evil 55 24 June 2020 13: 10
    0
    All these ratings are completely false, corrupt and subjective .. It is unlikely that when making this decision, the data of the "Dissernet" and "Dissertationopedia of Russian universities" communities were taken ..