Where are we in a hurry, and most importantly - why?

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Yes, I was also surprised by such pressure from coffee grinders, irons, fences and garages, which also became agitators for voting on the package of amendments. But everything that is happening around raises new questions that I really want to voice.

Moreover, in the crowd of people who want to question, I'm not the only one.



I support those readers who have questions, and brought some of their own. And I would very much like to ask them to those who fiercely argue that if we do not accept these amendments, then in the very near future we will simply be erased from the face of the earth by LGBT legions, liberals and even anyone else. Who believes that without a vote we will definitely lose history (which the Ministry of Culture rewrites best of all at the expense of the budget), we forget the language and all that.

In general, the hysteria itself and the shaft of complaints of those who are forced to vote (Ms. Pamfilova does not see this shaft point blank, declaring everything is fake) for the amendments are already suggesting that everything is not so simple.

No, to come and once again vote “for” - this is just the easiest way.

And here, if not easy, then questions arise.

So, question number one.

Why wholesale? Why in bulk? Why is it impossible to divide all the issues on the agenda of changes into blocks? And for each block to put “for” or “against”?

Complicated? Come on!

People have already considered that there are not so many blocks, and there are questions in them. Check:

1. Federated structure - 51 amendments.
2. President of the Russian Federation - 19 amendments.
3. The Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation - 33 amendments.
4. The Government of the Russian Federation - 26 amendments.
5. The judiciary and the prosecutor's office - 23 amendments.
6. Local government - 12 amendments.
7. Proposals for the preamble - 9 amendments.
8. The procedure for nationwide voting and the procedure for entry into force - 33 amendments.

Only eight "ticks". Okay, nine. For pets, volunteers and more, you can also put a plus sign in the block. Against buggers and other pests such as foreign citizens rushing into power.

But why so disrespectful neglect? Who said that a Russian citizen is not able to appreciate the importance of certain amendments?

Yes, some representatives of the authorities have already explained this with a large number of blocks. Funny: does it mean that eight presidential candidates can be overpowered, but eight blocks of amendments cannot be?

Some, you know, double standards ... The argument is very weak, no one bothers to vote for blocks.

Or, as an option, is it a fear that they will vote against zeroing? Then I agree. There is cause for concern. Although it has already been announced that more than 60% of the population will come to vote, of which 70% support the change.

It is hard to say where such confidence comes from, but what I’ve announced, Mr. President, I repeat, in fact.

Moving on.

The second question.

To ask him, I just quote Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.


2003 "The process of amending the Constitution itself is a destabilizing factor."

2004. “We must be careful about the Constitution of our country, not allow it to be changed to the taste of those people who are currently in power. She must be treated with care. ”

“... as soon as the mechanism for amending the basic law of the country is launched, it will be difficult to stop. Moreover, amendments to the Constitution may lead to an unstable situation. ”

2005 "If every new head of state comes to change the Constitution for himself, then nothing will soon remain of this state." (Speech on the Straight Line.)

“Stability in the country, in society, cannot be ensured in any other way, except by the stability of the legislation and the country's main law - the Constitution. Therefore, under no circumstances do I intend to change the Constitution. ” (Interview with Fox News.)

2007 "Changing the Constitution for a specific person, even if I trust him, I consider it incorrect."


Here is the last - very topical. I am sure that V.V. Putin trusts that person under whom it is now planned to amend the Constitution.

And here I have this very question: who to believe? To the one who stated this in past years, or to the one who today says that without changing the Constitution, the country will simply fall apart?

And nothing that is the same person. It is clear that a person’s opinion can change over time, but not 180 degrees ...

And the last, third question.

Where are we in such a hurry?

Indeed, it’s not clear what the regime is continuing to prolong, shops operate through a stump deck, cinemas and theaters are closed, stadiums and parks do not work, coffee houses, gentlemen, who took out work, are closed! They refuse parades in cities, and be kind enough to vote!

Very strange such a rush, to be honest. It would seem, well, we will defeat the coronavirus, then why not vote at least for the support of the government and the president - the winners? Very logical, right?

No, we are literally dragged by both hands. And still kick under the fifth point.

Explain to us then that the legions of pederasts are already on the border? Ready for all of us ...? And along the way to destroy the country? Or the beloved foreign enemies of Kiselev, Solovyov and others who want to enslave us and take away the wealth of the bowels of the earth, are ready for the offensive?

Well, where is such a rush from?

I'd love to know the answer to this question from the defenders ...

In the meantime, here is such an interesting thought.

The hurry with the urgent adoption of amendments, which for the most part seem to be already "working" in the laws, should provide two things.

First one. Clearly, this is “zeroing”. This is the only thing that is not in the laws and for the sake of which all this is conceived. Two more terms for Putin. The argument that “there is no one else”, let’s leave too, in the country 146 million, and there you can not find another honest and intelligent person?

This, of course, is impossible, especially if some forces in power do not need it. And since the authorities do not need this, you can sleep peacefully, they will not find it.

Well, I generally perceive it as an insult to the Russian people. And so it is. By the way, you can see the list of people who want to try to participate in the presidential election in 2018. And there among the rejected were very interesting personalities. But alas, for various reasons, they were not given the opportunity to go to the polls. And they left those who are definitely not a competitor from the word "completely."

And the second thought is more interesting.

The Kremlin has already called the vote "a vote of confidence in Putin." That's why they are trying to provide him with fake SIM cards, and stolen data of pensioners and coercion of state employees.

But what will follow the vote?

It seems to me that on the basis of such a vote something is being prepared, before which even a pension robbery will fade. I just don’t see another option of such a fierce rush.

Very quickly, despite the pandemic that caused us to be pushed into houses, they are now trying to drive us out of them with the sole purpose of voting. And the virus no longer interferes, well, the virus that scared us two months ago is not at all terrible. A rag on your face - and you're in the house. Go vote.

It seems to me that our government is preparing some kind of just a masterpiece gift to us. Something before which pension reform will simply fade. But for this, the whole world really needs to show that we all, more precisely, 70%, support what is happening.

Presidential elections only after 4 years. The elections of the Duma are closer, but their amendments hardly affect them. So why is it so hasty and urgent to accept everything?

Perhaps adoption of amendments will stop inflation? No, there is not a word about it. Perhaps the amendments will stop rising fuel prices? Yes, a liter of diesel fuel at 50 rubles and a liter of gas at 26 on 21.06.2020/2/XNUMX, that is, +XNUMX rubles compared to three weeks earlier?

Well, this, in general, is understandable, God knows what I wanted ... Like, so that our prices change in accordance with world prices, and not just up. Okay, and this amendment will not change.

So what will they change? Urgent so?

Nothing. Cats lived as cute, and will live. Volunteers as volunteers, saving huge amounts of money to the state, will be so. The Ministry of Culture as filmed libel about the war, and will remove. The Ministry of Education both disfigured school education and will continue to do so.

That is, absolutely nothing in the life of the country will not change. All these programs were not set yesterday and work successfully. And nothing will change from this vote.

So tell me, where does this urgency come from?

And so news day.

Where are we in a hurry, and most importantly - why?

I will remember this day, and after a while we will look at the results. In general, if you look at the dynamics of past years, then it is quite possible to wait for diesel at 75 or 100 rubles per liter, gas at 50 (and why not?), Gasoline at 100. Well, then everything else will go up in price.

Why?

Yes, because that's the only way it has been all the past 20 years. And there will be as many years as they will vote. When Putin went to the "last" term, many (including myself) seriously believed that now, on the last term, when Putin is no longer dependent on anyone, the rise of Russia will begin ...

Yeah, it started. In principle, the rise in price of everything connected with Plato was the third call. And then there was the retirement curtain. And given that all the "innovations" "already work in the laws", it remains to wait for something like that, epoch-making.

Well, wait.
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  1. +11
    22 June 2020 10: 10
    For pets, volunteers and more, you can also put a plus sign in the block
    Is it now that volunteers have been equated with pets? No, I do not agree. If we equate anyone with animals, then these:
    buggers and other pests
    . Although I think that here the animals will mind ...
    1. +40
      22 June 2020 10: 18
      Do not touch pets.
      They have more people than those who are pushing these amendments, among which, by the way, LGBT people are more than among the people.
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        1. +41
          22 June 2020 11: 16
          The "nullified" one has been telling you for 20 years that counting money in other people's pockets, especially his and his "friends", is not good. Take and write a refutation of the article, than it is ridiculous to shake the air.
        2. -22
          22 June 2020 11: 36
          the author worked for the money. ,,
          And here you are, no. No arguments, no facts, solid lines from the training manual.
          1. +11
            22 June 2020 12: 30
            The author worked for the money.

            The author writes from the heart. And then he searches for people like Diogenes. And finds less and less. request

            1. -35
              22 June 2020 12: 59
              The author can write from the heart. But the author is definitely writing from the heart, not from the head.
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              2. -27
                22 June 2020 15: 25
                The more I read Roman Skomorokhov's publications and the more I try to analyze them both with my mind and heart, the more I disagree with him. One gets the impression that some kind of diabolical force formed in it an inexplicable, completely not flexible algorithm for assessing reality and making decisions. But, as they say, I will not argue with anyone, but just go and vote for the amendments. In this life, we make a choice not between good and evil, but are forced to choose the lesser of several evils. Other proposals, we still do not receive.
                1. 0
                  22 June 2020 16: 26
                  The whole question is that there is nothing to argue with (arguments)
                  1. -10
                    22 June 2020 16: 34
                    What are arguments and when can they appear. Let’s say we met. Maybe they even persuaded a bottle of vodka. We talked about this and that, about life. Imbued with a common understanding of the problem. And only after that it is possible to put forward arguments, and provide facts. And to react to any remark to someone’s address does not make much sense.
                    1. +1
                      27 June 2020 07: 39
                      I don’t understand you at all, but with what you write, the author at least has arguments. You have a boltology.
                      1. 0
                        28 June 2020 02: 18
                        Quote: ac5pr7u
                        I don’t understand you at all, but with what you write, the author at least has arguments. You have a boltology.

                        The author is pi ** abol. He poured a lot of water, ala professor. Where it was worth deciphering, he walked aside not in the style of the manual of Platoshkin and others like him.
                  2. -4
                    23 June 2020 06: 43
                    Quote: Revival
                    The whole question is that there is nothing to argue with (arguments)

                    That's right, the arguments are where. I was especially interested in the "wave of complaints of coercion to vote" mentioned by the author ". Please tell me how is this coercion, control of the coerced? After all, it is possible to trace the arrival of the forced to the polling station, and even more so to control the result, only on the basis of access to the voting booth. What's here? Is it legal to try to convince us that nothing is being done in the country in the interests of the people? There is a complete sense of the provocativeness of the written ...
                2. AUL
                  +21
                  22 June 2020 18: 32
                  Quote: RESEARCHER
                  The more I read Roman Skomorokhov's publications and the more I try to analyze them both with my mind and heart, the more I disagree with him.

                  Well, if you disagree - please share your thoughts. Only specifically and reasonably. Take the thesis from the article - and refute it. Specifically and reasonably. With facts and without slogans. It’s a big article, there are several premises in it, so object to what you don’t agree with. I think it will be interesting to everyone. And just to glue the labels and take it on the throat, as a certain contingent likes it here - it won’t. This is boring. hi
                  1. -16
                    22 June 2020 18: 55
                    I wrote that I’m not going to convince anyone, because I simply do not have time for this. I have a job without days off and holidays. 2 more weeks left to suffer. But by then they will already vote, so this topic is unlikely to be as relevant as it is now. I'm just coming to vote for the amendments.
                    1. +4
                      22 June 2020 20: 41
                      Most likely you don’t have any clear arguments for convincing you, therefore you don’t want to.
                      1. -12
                        22 June 2020 21: 18
                        On weakly try to take. Well, you are interesting people. You give an answer for another, the one that you yourself want to hear, and then polemize with that answer. I wrote in Russian, and twice, that in the coming days I do not have free time.
                      2. -9
                        22 June 2020 21: 46
                        Here on military review as in a democratic regime. Continuous dichotomy. There are only two choices: good or evil, to change the constitution or not to change, to zero the terms or not. But even in Russian tales in front of Ivan Tsarevich on the stone, more options are offered.
                        From these positions it is necessary to approach the amendments. After the betrayal of the top of the CPSU and especially A.N. Yakovlev, I will never believe the one who lived, worked and studied abroad. Who likes their lifestyle, culture, habits and customs. Therefore, I will never look for healthy oils in the programs of Platoshkin, Grudinin, Navalny. Yes, you never know who else they will offer us. All new people have long been under the hood at the State Department. And just waiting in the wings.
                        As one negative movie hero used to say: - now you can’t trust anyone ... I can (but I’m already talking to myself).
                      3. -8
                        22 June 2020 21: 56
                        And so to speak, the logic of Mr. or Comrade Roman Skomorokhov. I quote: Indeed, it’s not clear what the regime is continuing to prolong, shops operate through a stump deck, cinemas and theaters are closed, stadiums and parks do not work, coffee houses, gentlemen, who took out work, are closed! They refuse parades in cities, and be kind enough to vote!
                        Well, where is the logic. The street is full of people. Walk, sunbathe, bathe, go shopping. And you see a vote almost a crime against the people. The logic is to delay the vote at all costs. And there you look and someone stirs up a mess and here it is no longer up to the vote.
                      4. -8
                        22 June 2020 23: 27
                        I see that there is some kind of joint voting on the spacing of the minuses. Well, after someone hinted to me in my comment line that I was forbidden to leave comments on this site, now I have no doubt that we are subject to strict censorship. And this can be understood as the invisible hand of the State Department. That is why I will definitely vote for the amendments.
                      5. -3
                        23 June 2020 02: 43
                        Quote: RESEARCHER
                        Well, after someone hinted to me in my comment line that I was forbidden to post comments on this site, now I have no doubt that we are subject to strict censorship. And this can be understood as the invisible hand of the State Department.

                        fool
                        Quote: RESEARCHER
                        it is forbidden to leave comments on this site

                        Nefig edit comment after a while.
                      6. 0
                        23 June 2020 10: 25
                        Thank you for enlightening. I'll know.
                      7. -2
                        23 June 2020 11: 56
                        No, no, this was the State Department’s hand laughing
                        I also notice her sometimes in a similar situation
                      8. +2
                        23 June 2020 19: 00
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Nefig edit comment after a while.

                        Why can’t you edit your comment? Enlighten please
                      9. 0
                        23 June 2020 19: 52
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        Why can’t you edit your comment? Enlighten please

                        Can. but within 5 minutes, as I understand it ... Or in 3 minutes ...
                      10. +4
                        23 June 2020 23: 45
                        Quote: BecmepH
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Nefig edit comment after a while.

                        Why can’t you edit your comment? Enlighten please

                        This is done for educational purposes.
                        There is time, it is short. Correct, keep up.
                        But, if you arbitrarily do this at any time, you get such a situation. You wrote some heresy. They answered you, arguing with you. You, then, correct your writings, and the rebuther who wrote to you will remain fools.
                      11. -2
                        23 June 2020 12: 05
                        You are minus the people who disagree with you, I am one of them, and you seem to work out the salary on this site.
                      12. -2
                        23 June 2020 09: 11
                        This is just Roman and asks the question - where is the logic in this "unclear what mode", if everything has been working everywhere for a long time .. Maybe someone just has a factory for the production of masks ??
                        Well, cancel the Parade on May 9, and a day later send everyone to work .. also the top of logic was ..))
                      13. +2
                        23 June 2020 12: 03
                        You are not telling the whole truth, and from that it is not true. The regime of self-isolation with fines and police atrocities as it was, but for the election please, in the current viral situation, this is a crime. I am writing to you from a hospital bed (Cove 19), so it’s not the flu that it is presented to, people are seriously ill, hospitals are clogged up (Far East), there are deaths and not a few, in this situation street campaigning for voting and voting itself is a crime before by people.
                      14. 0
                        23 June 2020 19: 16
                        Quote: Igor K
                        crime against people.

                        Are we people, or what? According to the judgments of the "elite" we are, teenage nits, etc .... Why "elite"? Yes, because our state gave them permissiveness and people's artists. They have an indulgence to disobey laws. And everything is allowed for them ("elites"). Everything is forgiven to them ...
                      15. 0
                        24 June 2020 06: 14
                        In which city the hospitals are clogged? In Blagoveshchensk (Amur Region) everything is fine, at least not the way you "draw" from the trench.
                      16. +1
                        25 June 2020 22: 58
                        In Belgorod, too, is normal.
                      17. -2
                        23 June 2020 11: 53
                        Many of us lived and worked abroad, not only everything, but even ..
                      18. -3
                        24 June 2020 11: 44
                        I will never believe the one who lived, worked and studied abroad. ,,
                        But do not remember where Putin worked?
                      19. -1
                        23 June 2020 11: 56
                        There is time to shake the air, there is no argument, well, well.
                      20. 0
                        27 June 2020 07: 44
                        No time to shake the air. As in Jumble, one aunt said I have no words, in response the bully said it was necessary to prepare.
                    2. +9
                      23 June 2020 09: 08
                      I bet you don’t have enough life to refute at least this ..))

                      Changing the Constitution for a specific person, even if I definitely trust himI consider incorrect


                      For, as I already wrote-Putin is simply a nonsense .. This is an axiom !!
                      And how much time you don’t spend on it - it’s still impossible to prove the opposite ..
                      1. -7
                        23 June 2020 22: 28
                        If everyone did for Russia at least a quarter of what did this, as you put it, "brehlo", we would already live under communism.
                      2. +1
                        27 June 2020 19: 24
                        In primitive communism. It was then that the division into future classes began. It’s imperceptible so, as it is with us now, though now it is thousands of times faster to determine elita and suckers.
                3. +1
                  22 June 2020 20: 27
                  "Yes, I was also surprised by such pressure from coffee grinders, irons, fences and garages, which also became agitators for voting on the amendment package."
                  Kohl, the author allowed the dissent to call it that. So, in response, I have the right to say - his last two articles are full albats ...
                  1. -7
                    22 June 2020 22: 25
                    This also greatly offended me, but I said nothing. But in my childhood in my village for this you can specifically get the scoreboard.
                  2. -2
                    23 June 2020 11: 58
                    Have you identified yourself with promotional items !?
                    Why is that?
                    Or are you agitators and therefore subconsciously regarded this?
                4. 0
                  23 June 2020 09: 04
                  formed in it an inexplicable, completely non-flexible algorithm for assessing reality and making decisions
                  Strange conclusions, to be honest ..
                  Man only calls black black .. and this is the truest estimate of reality !!

                  the choice is not between good and evil, but forced to choose from several evils less
                  just go and vote for amendments.
                  And here, there is absolutely no algorithm for assessing reality and making decisions ..
                5. 0
                  24 June 2020 06: 33
                  Here is a discovery! Dear Researcher, made a “landmark discovery”. It turns out that Good does not exist and, accordingly, He does not need to serve!
                  Fortunately, this is not so! Stupidity this time the Researcher said. God Almighty - Absolute Good - is in place. Was, is and will be! As the Russians faithfully served him, they will serve him. Do you want to be with Nevsky, Donskoy, Suvorov, Stalin? Be with Svyatopolk the Cursed, Mazepa, Vlasov, Gorbachev. Do you want to be with the Red Army, be with Heavi ... What problems? Just don’t, cast a shadow on the wattle fence ,,, don’t, reinvent the wheel ,,.
                  Is it hard to fight geeks? What do you want? After all, even tatami is not easy to go. Didn't know about this?
                  At least an ordinary man in the street, at least a self-confident temporary worker ... You will choose a crooked, but wide road of service to Evil - to Satan and you will leave. Cursed and contemporaries and descendants.
                  Dare to be disgusted? Forward! Only then do not yell, like a madman, when the hairs on his head stand on end. At least in this earthly life, at least, at the transition, ... At least where I deserve to go
            2. -1
              23 June 2020 22: 23
              Unfortunately, a respected author, with a definitely worthy past, writes not as a rational person wise in life experience, but as a bazaar hysterical whooper.
              Not a single reasonable argument, only emotions on the verge of hysteria.
            3. -1
              27 June 2020 19: 21
              I agree, it’s not enough, and then they let a tear go, as you can do with the people.
          2. -1
            23 June 2020 23: 20
            Quote: kotvov
            No arguments, no facts, solid lines from the training manual.

            At least once to see this training manual about which so close to the feeders yell. And it would be very interesting to vote on the site. Hope this is organized.
            1. 0
              24 June 2020 11: 51
              Dear, if you use Y-D, then you will easily find the Kremlin methodology algorithm there. Some do not even take a steam bath, the same koment is thrown into dozens of articles.
        3. +43
          22 June 2020 11: 42
          After reading what Roman gives out from time to time, cats begin to interbreed in the shower.
          I understand - this is his style.
          But the fact that he asks the right questions and gives his own answer to them does not force us to agree with him, and even more so, stick a label to him.
          Judging by your data, you are already 6 years on the site.
          And so they didn’t understand anything in people?

          One thing is completely clear to a sensible person: the husk of amendments, which could be simple laws in the Russian Federation, suddenly required changes and additions to the Basic Law.
          And somewhere in this heap they hid a tiny correction, which was compensated to us by the comrade-in-arms of Belka and Strelka.
          Which did it at the behest of her huge heart, under the pressure of the "requests of the working people."
          You would have granny posted these letters with the return addresses of the scans, and we would have checked who, at the behest of the soul, and who compiled these letters by coercion. Then at least a fraction of trust would be both for you and for the sake of whom you care.
          And now, collecting this puzzle, which is called "Zeroed", you understand one thing.
          The next step may be the anointing of the kingdom.
          Maybe we - Russia is preparing for this, our Vladimir?
          Joke.
          1. 0
            23 June 2020 22: 48
            The amendment you are talking about is really tiny and has a completely tactical character, because it does only one single thing, namely, suppresses conversations about the "transit of power", and it may also break off raspberries for those who thought - well, Putin will leave at 24 and we will quickly return everything back, as under Yeltsin. We will return Crimea, we will return to Syria, we will return oil, we will return gas, we will return the American advisers back to the Kremlin, and they will give us picenyushek for this. And then just a bummer, you can not wait.
            By the way, even Roman is wondering - why is the rush, before the election another 4 years, so it’s not about the elections, and this amendment is really not a key one. What then?
            Perhaps Mikhail Khazin is right, and "a new Yalta and a new Bretnwood" are brewing? And this, based on the international situation, should be 21 - 22 years old. At this point, you need to come as a sovereign state, free from "liberal" economic policy. Then time is really short.
            1. +1
              24 June 2020 00: 41
              Dear Alexey.
              How do you yourself relate to what you wrote?
              With optimism or pessimism?
              This is a joke.
              Well, it’s also possible to break off raspberries to those who thought - well, Putin will leave at 24 and we will quickly return everything back, as under Yeltsin.
              Those who think have transferred power to the current person on very specific conditions.
              It is not clear for certain which, but in general terms one thing is clear - a return to the pre-Yeltsin conditions of the social structure of the state should not occur under any circumstances.
              The seizure of natural resources should last for 50 years (brought forty on the tail).
              Do what you want to ensure this period.

              He did what he could and wanted.
              But unlike our man, who "does not abandon his own" and keeps his word, to power from those to whom they gave promises came, unexpectedly, a different group of people.
              Who needs to "plunder the loot".
              And then our man was at a crossroads.
              How to make sure that this promise is not broken, and not to fulfill it.
              The best option is to split the enemy’s camp, and then, under cover of disagreements, boldly send everyone to hell.
              And such an attempt by our man was made in 2007 in Munich.
              A man came and tried to explain to the audience that one polar world is an outdated and meaningless world order.
              Let us consider the world a multipolar one.
              In other words.
              Russia invited the hegemonic partners to start spitting on the hegemon.
              Russia needed this in order to throw off its yoke.
              But it was not there.
              The little people in the audience were either too stupid or too smart.
              Do not fall for seditious speech of man.
              For they understood the measure of influence of the hegemon on them.
              Examples of Noriega and the like were before their eyes.
              And besides disobedience, our man did not make any other proposals.
              Riot for the sake of rebellion.
              The consequences are obvious.
              And then the hegemonic machine began an inexorable movement.
              The goal is to punish the instigator of the riot.
              Next - this is all known.
              Georgia. Ukraine.

              Our man is flesh from the flesh of Yeltsin and his team.
              Replacing the decrepit drunkards with an energetic and grasping small - than not castling.
              You paid attention to the fact that such odious personalities as Chubais, Voloshin, Gref and the like did not disappear. And they are in the most direct contact with a person.
              In all economic forums, we can contemplate their faces.

              Perhaps Mikhail Khazin is right, and "new Yalta and new Brentwood" is coming? And this, based on the international situation, should be 21 - 22 years old. At this point, you need to come as a sovereign state, free from "liberal" economic policy. Then time is really short.

              It seems to me that Khazin either deliberately misleads us, or misunderstands what really can happen.
              First of all, Brentwood took place because the US felt within itself the strength to become a monopoly of money.
              And this is not just feelings, but also the presence of gigantic financial opportunities.
              And this was welcomed by most financially and industrialized countries.
              That is, it was not a backstage decision of a narrow group of people, but an international agreement.
              And the USSR did not take part in it for a number of reasons.
              But there was no reason for weakness and dependence on external management.
              And now they are.
              That is, Russia at this "celebration of life" will be "outside the door in the dressing room."
              Those who are robbed are not called to the table.
              So Hazin’s forecasts are true only in some part.
              But no more than that.
              1. +1
                24 June 2020 21: 49
                You cannot see the forest behind the trees. First, with regard to the "seizure of natural resources." Maybe remember that before Putin came to power, there were so-called "production sharing agreements" under which our minerals were extracted without any income for the state at all. Now the matter is limited to a tribute in the form of a "budget rule", that is, up to $ 42 per barrel to the budget, and all that is higher is a tribute. Shameful, but with that that was not comparable. And for this tribute, the World Bank is holding its teeth until it fights back.
                Secondly, you yourself write about the hegemon who pressed the whole world, and then kick Putin for the fact that he didn’t send him so far and didn’t do everything as he wants, where is the logic?
                Now, as for Khazin. He just understands that the hegemon is now in a deep systemic crisis, his method of work does not give the usual effect. The forces behind Trump, C and Russia now have the same enemy, trans-national banks that have taken over the world, including the United States, only the United States is the base for them at the moment, but this is not important for them, so the United States as the state can also be considered not sovereign. So they are robbing everyone, and right now there is a chance to get rid of these parasites.
                1. 0
                  24 June 2020 22: 47
                  I do not know in which forests you are, and in which forests I are.
                  In my forest, I see trees, and behind the trees I distinguish the forest.
                  This is by the way.

                  What happened before the person came, I remember well.
                  Now look carefully.
                  The established tax system in the Russian Federation is a stone on the feet of the economy. And therefore the people.
                  Even more precisely - the yoke.
                  We turn to what is close to me, and I understand what.
                  Oil production. And taxation.
                  Before extracting at least one ton of oil, the future potential owner submits an application.
                  The state, at the expense of the applicant, sends geologists. Which conduct reconnaissance.
                  And prepare a map of proven reserves.
                  Suppose we decided on a quantity of 100 million tons.
                  As of March 2019, the price coefficient was 12,72, that is, for each ton of oil produced, the government had to pay 11 rubles. excluding adjustments.
                  I'm just afraid to multiply these numbers.
                  Next.
                  The alleged owner who wants to acquire the right to mine must add this terrible figure to the treasury.
                  Oil, as you know, is no longer explored within the European part of Russia.
                  She, not open, is not there.
                  So this is Siberia, the Arctic.
                  And from the nearest station or settlement to the oil-bearing section, 500 kilometers through the swamps, where the bottom is not visible. Where the tower leaves in one night and its peaks above the surface in the morning are not observed.
                  So you need to strew and roll the road.
                  Which will also constantly sink.
                  This is money. Big money. Like a breakout rash.
                  Then the equipment. Then the staff.
                  Money again.
                  And you can’t pack up the extracted oil in cans, even very large ones.
                  It is necessary either to pull a piece of iron in order to carry tanks, or to join Transneft. If the second is expensive, then the first is super expensive.
                  Okay.
                  All is decided.
                  Oil went to the factory.
                  And as soon as the first ton is processed, excise taxes, VAT, etc. went again.
                  Even the penny, the oilman did not make a profit, and the state uncovered him in full.
                  Why do you need this opus?
                  And then, that the country's economy feeds on this blood, which is constantly becoming more expensive, which does not allow industry to develop, earn income and invest in infrastructure, in innovation, in modernization, etc.
                  Well, an oilman cannot sell oil at a negative price (as it was recently). He’d better not sell anything at all or shoot himself. Money spent.
                  Even the fact that the world price has fallen has not removed the obligation for oil refiners to pay a fixed rate of excise duty.
                  Well, who imposed such crap on us on our heads?
                  And how did a person’s rise to power make a difference?
                  The driver has changed. Which the head, the idea that instead of bills should begin to throw coal into the furnace, does not come.
                  Those. it’s not the budget rule, but that oil production and refining, and the sale of oil should be in the hands of the state, which itself determines where to lose it, but that the country should not be torn off as sticky.
                  Crap, comrade, what's the catch?
                  Secondly, you yourself write about the hegemon who pressed the whole world, and then kick Putin for the fact that he didn’t send him so far and didn’t do everything as he wants, where is the logic?
                  I criticize the man for taking a rash step that completely disavows his plans (if there were any, which I doubt).
                  Once I sent a lengthy letter to Khazin, in which he outlined in a usual, accessible form how a person’s act is seen from the Russian bottom. We are not flying at the top?

                  The essence of the letter was this.
                  A boy was lost in the jungle. He was sheltered by a wolf pack. They gave the boy a name - Mowgli.
                  But the boy was supposed to be the prey of Sherkhan.
                  Then somehow all at once rested: some horn, some claws, some fangs. The tiger did not eat the boy.
                  And the boy grew up, grew stronger, husbands. He got a dagger. Learned how to handle fire.
                  And from easy prey, Mowgli turns into uncomfortable.
                  And the last battle is ripening.
                  The epic nature of this battle, which Kipling does not write about, is that the death of Mowgli does not introduce dissonance into the life of the jungle.
                  The animals would have burnt, and that’s it.
                  But here the death of Sherkhan leads to the destruction of the entire system of relationships of individuals in the jungle.
                  Sherkhan is the top of the food chain. He is the main consumer and arbiter of the fate of the forest.
                  Destroying Sherkhan Mowgli is obliged to take his place - the place of the head of the food chain.
                  A forest cannot exist without a steward.
                  But Mowgli is a human baby.
                  Why is he doing this?
                  He is a loner who does not want to control anyone and does not want to control anyone.

                  This is a one-on-one narrative on the situation in Munich in 2007.
                  Even for me, who do not have outstanding analytical data, who do not have powerful government agencies and services in their service, who are able to collect the necessary information to make the right, not rash decision, it’s clear that the act characterizes the person, his environment, his referents and assistants like not so smart people.
                  If you are going to organize a riot on the ship, then either you are obliged to lead people behind you, exactly until the moment your personal goals are achieved, or be ready to hang on a yarn.
                  And if you simply pushed the team to revolt, without offering anything, without leading anywhere, without defining more fabulous and sweeter goals, then you will not be perceived as a warrior and leader.
                  You are a provocateur.
                  With all that it implies.

                  So from our small forest everything is seen like this.
                  Good night to you.
                  Thank you for attention.
                  1. +1
                    24 June 2020 23: 45
                    Even for me, who do not have outstanding analytical data, who do not have powerful government agencies and services in their service, who are able to collect the necessary information to make the right, not rash decision

                    So from our small forest everything is seen like this.

                    I read your lengthy commentary. I apologize to interfere with your polemics, but it seems to me that you still, "do not see the forest for the trees" IMHO.
                    1. +2
                      25 June 2020 00: 43
                      I am not an expert in oil production, but as far as I know, the controlling stake in Rosneft belongs to Rosneftegaz, which in turn is 100% owned by the state.
                      Now, with regard to Munich. Perhaps you are aware when Khrushchev had an oral, verbal agreement with Kenedy that after the USSR removes the missiles from Cuba, the United States will remove the missiles from Turkey. Kenedy kept his word.
                      Gorbachev, not to be forgotten by night, also secured verbal promises not to expand NATO eastward, having assumed certain obligations. But either the situation was not the same, or the people were neither the one, and most likely both, the West did not give a damn about all the promises, and for one all the international laws and rules established by the UN, for example, about the inviolability of the post-war borders.
                      In Munich, Putin said, guys, we agreed, if you don’t comply, then we won’t. They told him, but we do not care, do what you want. And then there were calibers, vanguards, daggers, etc.
                      About Sherkhan. He went north, and the pack defended his jungle from invasion. Thus, Sherkhan himself destroyed the system of relations in the jungle, and Mowgli only framed the changed situation. In the current crisis situation, the hegemon is not able to maintain order, everything is bursting at the seams, hence the need for the formation of a new structure, but the hegemon infantry does not want to landfill, and will cling to its position with its teeth.
                  2. +2
                    25 June 2020 00: 50
                    By the way, at the expense of taxation you are absolutely right. It needs to be changed. Only for this, you first need to remove that very "infantry" (in our case, these are officials of the central bank and the economic bloc of the government, actively supported by the US Federal Reserve through officials of its subsidiary structures), and she, the "infantry", is firmly entrenched and still stands firmly.
        4. +39
          22 June 2020 11: 51
          Quote: Wend
          Well then. We can assume that the author worked for the money.

          Can I ask? But how did Putin’s libels work out the money? Timchenko and other rotenbergs, which until 1999 and Chinese junk were not suitable for barging, they fed so much .... That Russia could launch aircraft carriers and cruisers more often than corvettes now. Well, maybe not more often. but probably at the same pace. And how did these gentlemen work out the money sucked from Russia? Or they can, because if not a guarantor and his Caudle. then who?
          1. +9
            22 June 2020 13: 20
            And how Putin’s slander money worked out?

            Good day! Ask questions and answer yourself. A sign of integrity of consciousness.

            And how these gentlemen worked out money from Russia sucked?
        5. +56
          22 June 2020 11: 53
          Well - the last time the guarantor was trusted, he immediately dropped a whole generation below the baseboard, having arranged a completely cannibalistic pension-type reform .. And since he needed it again - we can assume that another robbery of epic proportions is planned ...
          1. +29
            22 June 2020 13: 22
            it can be assumed that another robbery of epic proportions is planned ...

            To hell with assumptions ... We can already say with confidence.
          2. +5
            22 June 2020 18: 36
            when the guarantor was trusted
            it’s important not how they vote but how they think (s)
            1. +1
              23 June 2020 06: 57
              If you are trying to quote Napoleon, then it is correct not to "count - in the sense of counting", but "count - in the sense of actually mean".
              But if this is your own bold thought, then this mantra is not new.
          3. -1
            23 June 2020 12: 09
            Are we on the eve of a big schucher? belay
        6. +38
          22 June 2020 12: 06
          Quote: Wend
          Well then. We can assume that the author worked for the money.

          Exactly. I worked conscientiously. I wrote a good, honest article. I have not become like deceitful propagandists and sycophants. It is a pity that the journalist Skomorokhov will receive for his personal opinion several times less than the buffoon Bezrukov, who sold his opinion for 60000 "dirty green papers".
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          2. +21
            22 June 2020 16: 30
            Here is a demo colleague writes that he has cats scratching his soul. And how they scrape at me! After all, it is on me and on people like me, the economy has already run in the future digital slavery of the population and is in a hurry, stumbling and falling, to vote "for" (another type of voting is simply not considered) in order to immediately implement the proven methods of illegal extortions from the population - everywhere and for everyone, not feeling the slightest gratitude to those who sincerely vote in favor. After all, the president ordered: as soon as "for", then immediately ...
            Self-isolation deprived me of the opportunity to protest economically in person. For example, by coming to an institution that ascribes monthly electricity debt to me, or to the prosecutor’s office on the same issue (there’s no way to get through the phone). Why so? - some will say. - Drive and express. Oh really? To get it like in the Moscow metro? Moreover, the fine will be taken away.
            That's how cleverly everything turned out, isn't it? A convenient thing is self-isolation, the image of our future life. The tax authorities write illegal taxes on a bunch of people, leaving the whole bunch in their underpants at all, or even without them, the people will open their mouths in displeasure, and the police: "Put on a mask, pay a fine!" Is it an exaggeration? Yes, before voting "for" - a satire on the image of the future, and after - the reality of the unstable era of endless coronaviruses of various modifications and mutations. Sweet dream of autocracy.
        7. +11
          22 June 2020 14: 54
          Finally, the right slogan. It is not necessary to rearrange the beds, but to change the workers.
        8. -4
          22 June 2020 16: 21
          I really want to eat delicious ...
          So we do the work
      2. +32
        22 June 2020 10: 57
        Quote: blackice
        Do not touch pets.
        They have more people than those who are pushing these amendments, among which, by the way, LGBT people are more than among the people.

        When Miller's team "came" to Gazprom, they called it the "blue wave."
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          1. +18
            22 June 2020 11: 25
            Quote: lexus
            I heard that in the lower chamber of the "parliament" the whole floor is set aside for the "dovecote". And at all the concerts "To the Bottom ..." more than half of the troubadours on the "rear wheel drive" crows.

            These are the heroes of Putin's time, or rather timelessness. hi
            1. -25
              22 June 2020 11: 45
              The author imperceptibly to himself wrote the same.
              The author * is against amendments * only because like this * without a fight .. * into * the advanced * will be able to slip into the close ranks of * thinkers comprehending trends and trends * squeeze through. In those ranks, they seem to pay well, especially when they promise.
        2. +37
          22 June 2020 12: 49
          Dear Author Roman Skomorokhov! Let me not agree with you. You say that nothing has changed, in fact, everything has changed, but we do not feel it yet.
          Here is a quote from Valentina Matvienko’s statement on the Federation Council website:
          "The formation of a qualitatively new digital civilization is underway. The Federation Council has created a working group that revises our legislation taking into account the tests in the current force majeure conditions, for which the senators have been instructed to monitor and evaluate how the regions go through the regime of restrictive measures, remote control and digitalization. ... Part of the current crisis way of life will certainly be transferred in some form to future everyday life as more convenient. "
          How more convenient ... For whom?
          Our old stalls made of boards and sticks, which we could break through with some degree of ease, resisting one or another unfair manifestation of the state, are hastily encircled with digital sensors of security devices. Hurry, so as not to have time to realize what was happening. And when they impose it, the state will finally lose the appearance of an institution designed to carry out at least some justice in relation to the population. It will carry it out only in relation to itself, its structures. It re-imagined itself as our service staff. Vertical! The vertical shining and cleared of surpluses of the population! Only those who are suitable for the role of polishing it to the required brilliance will turn out to be in demand. The vertical is a monster structure separate from all of us and standing above us, not having any obligations before us, living only for itself. But somehow it will be difficult to resist this.
          After the revision of the laws by the Federation Council, I believe this will happen very quickly, the selection of those who are ready to "crouch and kiss" into the modernized electronic stalls will begin, abandoning a significant part of their rights in favor of the power vertical. And haste - so that you don't have time to get there. After all, if it comes, the formation of resistance from the "surplus" of the population is possible.
          I offered to shovel the laws for their corruption component. Shovel. So that I could not open my mouth and for one reason or another say "I do not agree!"
          1. +18
            22 June 2020 13: 05
            Quote: depressant
            I offered to shovel the laws for their corruption component. Shovel. So that I could not open my mouth and for one reason or another say "I do not agree!"

            SUPPER COMMENT !!! +100500 !!!
            Threat. It’s a pity that I can put only one plus sign. hi
          2. +19
            22 June 2020 14: 32
            About digital stalls - very accurately, figuratively and the whole point, Lyudmila Yakovlevna !! good
            And the "vertical" will now really finally exist for itself. "Convenient laws" are given too easily. ... At the same time, the respected government wants to "civilized" control respect for the respected Valentina Ivanovna.
            1. +1
              23 June 2020 22: 56
              Valya will always have time to change her shoes, I would not pay much attention to her statements, this is not the wind, this is the weather vane. Today she pushes the law, tomorrow she herself proposes to repeal it.
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          1. 0
            23 June 2020 22: 56
            The people are you personally?
            1. -1
              24 June 2020 00: 09
              I and everyone I know, I think 200 people no less. In Russia, I think about 70-80 percent. So you can start.
              1. +2
                24 June 2020 00: 14
                Well, 200 people from one social group is, to put it mildly, not a very representative sample for 140 million. And if you take into account your pressure and categoricalness, then I’m not sure that everyone tells you what they really think.
        2. 0
          24 June 2020 18: 31
          Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
          Quote: blackice
          They have more people than those who are pushing these amendments, among which, by the way, LGBT people are more than among the people.

          And why do not you like the amendments?
          I lived under 5 Constitutions - the Soviet Khrushchev, Soviet Brezhnev, Soviet Gorbachev, Kazakh Nazarbayev, Russian Chubais-Yavlinsky (with which we now live). Has it somehow affected my life?
          Tired of Putin? You can always hang yourself and enjoy the paradise.
          He’s tired - and we hang ourselves? Your logic ... be healthy. By the way, paradise (getting to paradise) it was the GDP that promised - to know, he has more doom there. So before the guarantor in the loop is not necessary. Let him settle everything there until he decides. And there we will decide whether we need it or not.
          1. 0
            24 June 2020 18: 59
            Quote: Wizzzard
            He’s tired - and we hang ourselves?

            Duc, you’re not tired of Putin. If you regularly pay taxes, you are even very pleasant to Putin.
            Well, if you intend after that, then you have to live for 14 years. Try to settle down more comfortably. Schaub was not sick.
      4. +6
        22 June 2020 21: 48
        As folklore says - "Haste is needed only when catching fleas." And also, when you spar from someone else's wife, and her husband catches up with you! And what fleas are so catching up with the Russian authorities that they are all fussing about? The itch of lifelong reign? It looks like ...
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  2. +29
    22 June 2020 10: 11
    The monarchy will Volodka to the kingdom and us to serfs laughing
    1. -28
      22 June 2020 10: 18
      But if you were a blogger, then with this post you would run to an ATM or a prickly landscape would be provided. Democracy however. Yes
      1. +10
        22 June 2020 10: 26
        He would repent to the king and be forgiven generously laughing
        1. -13
          22 June 2020 10: 29
          No, they just started shooting in that direction. Something is accepted in this direction. Carefully. hi
    2. +29
      22 June 2020 10: 34
      Mrs. Panfilova does not see at close range, declaring everything to be fakes
      Why not declare it, if the other day another pocket sociological office published the results of a poll, according to which 70-80 percent of Russians trust the activities of the CEC? Such are the gullible Russians, panima
      1. +31
        22 June 2020 11: 11
        Quote: Dalny V
        Why not declare it, if the other day another pocket sociological office published the results of a poll, according to which 70-80 percent of Russians trust the activities of the CEC? Such are the gullible Russians, panima

        Colleague, look what is happening at least on this site. After all, there are many adherents of the chief commander in chief who believe in his "talents", hpp, "intelligence" and "conscience".
        I do not know how to explain this phenomenon. request
        1. -18
          22 June 2020 11: 23
          Quote: Malyuta
          I do not know how to explain this phenomenon.

          Have you ever received a salary with office paper for a Snowflake printer?
          If not, then you don’t understand.
          1. +26
            22 June 2020 11: 33
            You again about the bygone nineties barrel organ brought? No, seriously, it's time to start banning already. Under Ivan the Terrible, they didn’t pay salaries, imagine? Even the governors - they were feeding, which they themselves will collect from the people, and so they are added.
            1. -17
              22 June 2020 11: 52
              The nineties were only 20 years ago, by historical standards - yesterday. The country in 2000 and the country now are two enormous differences, it is unfortunate that you do not see this or do not want to see it.
              1. +38
                22 June 2020 12: 11
                In fact, 20 years in the country's development is a huge period, at least since the beginning of the last century. You can compare the situation of the 1900s with the 20s, then term, sixties, eighties. And wonder how much everything has changed over twenty years. We can say that at the beginning of the century, only a few used the Internet, and now every first one, but this is the merit of progress, not Putin. You can nod that there’s nowhere to put a car in front of the house, but this, again, is not Putin’s merit - the debt load of the population has grown to a record 20 trillion rubles, 130 thousand for each (!) Resident of the country, including decrepit old people and infants. So it’s not necessary about what I see and what I don’t see, huh?
                1. -22
                  22 June 2020 12: 23
                  The disappearance of the poor and the homeless is not a consequence of progress. A rebuilt army, too. Children’s and sports grounds, new roads, normally working transport, services, too, can’t be pulled towards progress. Loans? Loans are not a freebie, this is a financial instrument, you need to give them back, so there is something to give them back. And with the Internet, especially with the mobile, it’s not so simple: in many developed countries, despite the notorious progress, it is objectively worse than in Russia, so there is a certain merit. Even in my God-forgotten little Motherland, for once, there appeared asphalt and sidewalks and gas, and this same Internet through air and optics.
                  1. +28
                    22 June 2020 12: 35
                    Beggars and street children? How much has the population declined in Russia, excluding migrants? How many of them are currently in prison? There is no special secret, as it were. Children's and sports grounds? And you didn’t forget about the sharp rise in oil and gas prices at the beginning of the century, by chance? The same goes for the army. In the 14th year, the price began to decline, and population incomes magically crawled down. No, I do not argue, this is the merit of Putin. It’s just that it consists in one thing: the scheme of the robbery of the country is brought into a more civilized form. If with EBNe this was done without Vaseline, then now with Vaseline. However, this does not add pleasant sensations.
                    About loans
                    means there is something to give
                    Yeah, apparently that's why the delay is constantly growing
                    1. -17
                      22 June 2020 14: 20
                      How much has the indigenous population decreased in prosperous Europe? And why? This is clearly not due to a low standard of living, but most likely the opposite: with an increase in income, a person changes the order of values. The highest birth rates are shown by the poorest countries, so that the birth rate is not an indicator.
                      My village was gasified and paved, and the roads were put in order in 2016, when hydrocarbon revenues dipped. Well, they don’t make loans at gunpoint; buying a car with a salary of 40 sput for more than two lemons is stupid, isn't it?
                      1. +17
                        22 June 2020 14: 55
                        In the USSR, apparently, there was a very low standard of living, since the population grew?
                        Your village is a special case. The largest village of Primorye, Chernihiv, was not gasified even in 2011, when they pulled a gas pipeline to Russky Island by the APEC summit.
                        Why do you think that it is people with a salary of 40 ty who buy cars for more than two lemons? This is for the province, incidentally, a very substantial amount. Nevertheless, in my opinion, paying even 40 sput in our country is pure bestiality, because this is clearly not enough.
                      2. -15
                        22 June 2020 15: 05
                        Because it was bought by one of my friends. Although, Solaris or Rio could maximize their income. Now aching. And yes: in the Union, the standard of living was not ah. I come from a large family, so we carried things one after another. My children are no longer there, they were completely packed. And I can afford much more than my parents.
                      3. +13
                        22 June 2020 15: 17
                        Your friend is again a special case, to draw conclusions on his only example is not serious.
                        As for the standard of living in the Union, it was quite comparable with that in the "developed countries of the West." Before some particularly gifted individuals came to power, of course. And, if your children do not wear things one after another, this does not mean that other families do not have this. As it were, you are going against the general line, because at the very top we have recognized that families with children are in the greatest risk zone in terms of being able to fall below the poverty line.
                      4. -10
                        22 June 2020 15: 30
                        It is possible that in the 60s we were head to head with developed countries. But in the late 80s, having visited Finland on a business trip, he noticed that we lagged behind them, and enormously. And in terms of living and in terms of social guarantees.
                        Large families are always at risk, but young people do not want to reproduce, not because of a lack of money. They have different values: career, travel, clothes, well, you should not forget infantilism, our generation has grown up earlier.
                      5. +16
                        22 June 2020 17: 01
                        Quote: AS Ivanov.
                        Large families are always at risk, but young people do not want to reproduce, not because of a lack of money. They have different values: career, travel, clothes, well, you should not forget infantilism, our generation has grown up earlier.

                        SERIOUSLY??? We do not want, because the values ​​are different ??? Do not speak for others, since you yourself are already quite mature! We just want to get enough babies like rabbits, you don’t need a lot of mind for that, but where to live? We won’t fit in the box from the fridge, my parents don’t have ice either, what, take my parents to a nursing home and stop by? Very dirty reception. Mortgage - slavery for a decade or two, and if you lose a decent salary (due to the second wave of coronavirus, the first wave of dolphin consumption, etc., etc.)? There is work, and there is a lot, just making money on it (except for cases of shift, thieves and cities with a million-plus population, especially Moscow) is not very. The average salary in the regions is about 23 thousand rubles. This is someone who was lucky to gnaw at such a place. Mostly on exchanges are ads on places with 10-12-14 thousand rubles per month. Dirty. AND WHAT SHICH DO I CONTAIN EVEN FAMILY WITHOUT CHILDREN ??? Moscow, shift and Gazprom with Rosneft are not enough for everyone.
                      6. DVR
                        -7
                        22 June 2020 18: 42
                        SERIOUSLY??? We do not want, because the values ​​are different ??? Do not speak for others, since you yourself are already quite mature! We just want to get enough babies like rabbits, you don’t need a lot of mind for that, but where to live? We won’t fit in the box from the fridge, my parents don’t have ice either, what, take my parents to a nursing home and stop by? It’s a very dirty reception ...... The average salary in the regions is about 23 thousand rubles. This is someone who was lucky to gnaw at such a place. Mostly on exchanges are ads on places with 10-12-14 thousand rubles per month. Dirty. AND WHAT SHICH DO I CONTAIN EVEN FAMILY WITHOUT CHILDREN ???

                        Ay-yay-yay, "very dirty trick"! But even the CIA statistics as of 2020 disagree with you:
                        № Country Number of births per 1000 people
                        1 Niger 47,5
                        2 Angola 42,7
                        3 Uganda 42,3
                        4 Mali 42,2
                        5 Benin 42,1
                        6 Chad 41,7
                        7 DR Congo 41
                        8 Zambia 40,4
                        9 Malawi 40,1#
                        This list can be extended for another 150 positions approximately before we see a country with a high standard of living, a beacon of developed democracy, which our "dear" liberals and pseudo-patriots set as an example for us. See any statistics - the results do not vary much. And who is using "very dirty tricks" here?
                      7. -3
                        23 June 2020 17: 55
                        Quote: DVR
                        And who is using "very dirty tricks" here?

                        I called this dirty trick:
                        Quote: CT-55_11-9009
                        What, take parents to a nursing home and call in?

                        So by.
                        Farther. About the values. Do you think that all the young people want ... uh ... that same act without children under 60 (or even 70)? Only a new iPhone and a cheesecake with some kind of neck (did these Anglicisms fall into the abyss)? No, there are those who meet (with partners of the opposite sex, imagine!), Live together, but they don’t think about children yet, because the family’s earnings are barely enough even for two of them! The rent, rent (or mortgage, I don’t even know which is worse) is a lot, and nobody canceled food and goods of at least the first necessities. A child, even one, is a big expense, so both parents will have to plow like damned. Who will bring up the child? Grandmothers and grandfathers? So whoever they stayed with will have to work too, thanks to pension reform ...
                        Quote: DVR
                        This list can be continued for another 150 positions approximately before we see a country with a high standard of living, a beacon of developed democracy, which our "dear" liberals and pseudo-patriots set as an example for us. Look at any statistics - the results do not vary much.

                        The trouble is that the same situation exists in such a beloved-adored by many West, only, firstly so there is less arrogant deception, and secondly, there are more free funds left, and there is some stability (in the good sense of the word).
                      8. DVR
                        +4
                        24 June 2020 08: 41
                        And it was exactly Andrei’s words that confused you:
                        Large families are always at risk, but the youth does not want to breed, not because of a lack of money. They have different values: career, travel, clothes, well, you should not forget infantilism, our generation has grown up earlier.

                        so that you wrote a capsule and put 3 question marks each.
                        This is exactly what you refuted:
                        AND WHAT SHICH DO I CONTAIN EVEN FAMILY WITHOUT CHILDREN ???

                        I just gave you statistics that proves that they don’t want to reproduce, not because there is not enough money. You yourself have agreed to this now.
                        The trouble is that the same situation exists in such a beloved-adored by many West, only, firstly, there is less impudent cheating, and secondly, there are more free funds left, and there is no stability (in good sense of the word).

                        There is an order of magnitude more cheating, Western media will give the Soviets a head start on the level of misinformation and propaganda. There are countless examples of this.
                        "More free funds" are also far from everywhere, we do not have such tent cities for homeless people as in the states. And not for long. All this beautiful showcase of capitalism was built in opposition to the USSR. There are almost no colonies left for active plundering. On one collapse of the Union, they only profited from trillions of dollars (by any estimate), but they have already been eaten. If Russia is not destroyed, then this showcase will empty quickly enough. And the fact that incomes are small, especially in the outback, does not make me happy either.
                      9. +3
                        24 June 2020 03: 40
                        Your friend is again a special case, to draw conclusions on his only example is not serious.

                        This is not a special case.
                        An acquaintance of mine bought a "wheelbarrow" with a salary of 50k + salary of a wife of 35k. 2,5 lemons.
                        It's just "show off". IMHO.
                        Why? Ask him.
                        I don’t understand such people.
                        Unfortunately, there are many!
                  2. +8
                    22 June 2020 23: 23
                    This is where the beggars disappeared and the homeless.
                    Something in our city has not gone away. And recently (a couple of months) the number of beggars seems to have increased. And by no means persons of gypsy nationality.
                  3. +1
                    23 June 2020 09: 19
                    The disappearance of the poor
                    Kagbe them actually became more ..))
                2. Loh
                  -9
                  22 June 2020 16: 20
                  So this should not be the merit of Putin. His task is to create conditions for progress and this is his merit. And about the debt load of the population ... a source (a reference please) do not tell me? And besides, who forces the population to take a loan without thinking? In 1997, I worked in South Africa (there was still paradise for whites), so it’s a custom that after 18 years, children leave to live on their own and the loan for housing at that time was 18%. Young people bought or built housing (I note that they were houses, not apartments) or rented. And the head did not hurt from the debt.
                  1. +10
                    22 June 2020 19: 17
                    Quote: Loh
                    after 18 years, children leave to live on their own and the loan for housing at that time was 18%. Young people bought or built housing (I note that they were houses, not apartments) or rented.

                    And where is South Africa now? At the World Cup, a black man drove journalists in a bus, which then slept in the trunk of a bus.
                    1. Loh
                      +1
                      24 June 2020 15: 41
                      [quote = Mordvin 3] And where is South Africa now? Read carefully. Apartheid was abolished in 1994, and I am describing 1997, South Africa was still a paradise for whites and for a black man the chauffeur job was prestigious.
              2. +9
                22 June 2020 13: 57
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                The nineties were just 20 years ago
                30, actually.
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                The country in 2000 and the country now are two huge differences
                We see. The country developed into zero, now it is degrading.
              3. +4
                23 June 2020 11: 21
                Indeed, the difference is obvious, in the nineties we had 4-5 large construction organizations in the region and 1 bridge-building company now 1 and there are no bridge-building companies at all. There were 2-3 district hospitals and the morgue is now 0,5 hospital and without a morgue. I do not consider organizations with a handful of migrant workers who can only dig trenches, these were organizations with their bases, dead ends, concrete plants and the ABZ. You can go on for a long time.
                At 90, it was sometimes easier to negotiate with the bandits than it is now to agree with an official who has one answer to the fact that you were simply thrown into debts: "I didn't do it, it's all a program."
            2. -8
              22 June 2020 13: 11
              Dear, who remembers the old, the eye goes out, and who forgets, the two. To forget about the dashing 90s, the lads and the liberal are constantly urging us ... you. The success would be staggering if, at the behest of all the screaming fosterlings, who were sucked by our sworn friends, suddenly took and forgot about the 90s, also about the Great Patriotic War, the reign of Chubaysy and his friends, Yeltsin, the seven-bankers, etc.
              A cross on Russia could then be safely set.
              Do not wait, Russia has not forgotten in the 90s and will always remember how you would not call to forget.
              1. -10
                22 June 2020 19: 28
                Quote: The Truth
                Do not wait, Russia did not forget the 90s

                They are hoping for free cookies. Like the Indians in Manhattan.
            3. -6
              22 June 2020 13: 11
              I just can’t understand one thing ... well, you can think with your head before formulating a thought?
              The events that unfold today are influenced (including) by the processes that were launched earlier. There are very long-running processes ... So for some parameters it is necessary to compare with the era of Ivan the Terrible.
            4. +6
              22 June 2020 16: 36
              That is, they are ready to do anything for a "handout" in the mrot, since earlier it was only for "food", if only again not for "food".
              What a humble position!
          2. +9
            22 June 2020 11: 38
            Quote: Boris55
            Have you ever received a salary with office paper for a Snowflake printer?

            It's good to be a senior citizen, right? Here, under Putin, you don’t know what will happen tomorrow, just have time to look for work.
            1. -17
              22 June 2020 11: 46
              Quote: Dalny V
              You again about the bygone nineties barrel organ brought?

              Everything is relative. Well, you acknowledge Putin’s merit that life has become better.

              Quote: Mordvin 3
              ut, under Putin you don’t know what will happen tomorrow, just have time to look for work.

              Not here under Putin, but under the current Constitution. Do you not understand that our life, and that of the president, is limited by laws. We change the Basic Law, and everyone else will change.
              1. +29
                22 June 2020 11: 58
                Quote: Boris55
                We change the Basic Law, and everyone else will change.

                As I understand it, there will be a second wave of amendments, and then maybe more? And then I didn’t see anything in the current amendments about providing jobs, or production.
                And what’s a lifelong senatorialism? Can you immediately introduce the transfer of power by inheritance, like the English House of Lords?
                1. -27
                  22 June 2020 12: 59
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  And then I didn’t see anything in the current amendments

                  The meaning of the amendments, Putin-will replace the pro-Western Duma with the pro Russian. This is only the first step in the evolutionary change of the social system.
                  1. +11
                    22 June 2020 18: 11
                    Quote: Boris55
                    The meaning of the amendments, Putin-will replace the pro-Western Duma with the pro Russian.

                    Though kill, I do not see the point. Although, if the pro-Russian - Mumu, Gerasim and the lady, then the meaning appears. The lady is a bastard, but we will drown the dog.
                  2. AUL
                    +8
                    22 June 2020 18: 53
                    Quote: Boris55
                    The meaning of the amendments, Putin-will replace the pro-Western Duma with the pro Russian.

                    What are you doing ?! Disperse current Dumaks? Did he tell you that? But what about the stability of power?
                    1. +8
                      22 June 2020 21: 00
                      The meaning of the amendments Putin-will replace the pro-Western Duma with the pro Russian

                      Yes, I have never seen such schizophrenia.
                  3. +5
                    22 June 2020 23: 31
                    And how do you replace a pro-Western Duma with a pro-Russian one if the amendments to the prohibition on deputies owning property abroad are rejected. Amendment prohibiting family members from having accounts abroad to deputies is rejected. And what about the amendment about the Central Bank?
              2. +22
                22 June 2020 12: 19
                Quote: Boris55
                Everything is relative. Well, you acknowledge Putin’s merit that life has become better.

                Life got better not because of the bastard, but because of the high prices in the hydrocarbon market.
                And now the main thing is that it was under Putin that the Soviet industrial base and energy were destroyed, astronautics are trying to achieve, the Mir station was drowned, medicine and education are being deliberately destroyed.
                I don’t even want to vang, but what will happen in the fall and winter and at the beginning of the next year will surprise you very much and the 90s will become paradise forests for you. hi
                1. -15
                  22 June 2020 12: 56
                  Quote: Malyuta
                  I don’t even want to vang, but what will happen in the fall and winter and at the beginning of the next year will surprise you very much and the 90s will become paradise forests for you

                  You just do not forget this post. laughing
                  1. +11
                    22 June 2020 13: 02
                    Quote: Boris55
                    You just do not forget this post. laughing

                    Okayne. hi
                  2. AUL
                    +7
                    22 June 2020 18: 55
                    Quote: Boris55
                    You just do not forget this post.

                    And you yours - about the replacement of the State Duma!
                2. -16
                  22 June 2020 14: 30
                  How successful could this famous "Soviet industrial base" have operated in a competitive environment? The ZIL-130 would undoubtedly be snapped up in global markets. Like the TVs "Raduga" The people voted in rubles and not in favor of the products of our industry. That's all there is to know about its quality and advancedness. And stop referring to Mir station - it worked in orbit three times more than the assigned resource. And it's not worth wanging: the Vangs have already predicted a dollar for two hundred and hopeless poverty, but we live, we live well and do not cough.
                  1. +9
                    22 June 2020 19: 23
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    The ZIL-130 would undoubtedly be snapped up in global markets. Like TVs "Rainbow"

                    I’m embarrassed to ask ... Are the products of your sawmill snapped up in global markets?
                    1. 0
                      22 June 2020 19: 48
                      My nose is not mature enough, and the quality is good, customers do not complain. And I don’t set a high price. There is a demand.
                      1. +6
                        22 June 2020 22: 17
                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        My nose is not mature enough, and the quality is good, customers do not complain. And I don’t set a high price. There is a demand.

                        Well, that's how ZIL 130 was in demand.
                      2. 0
                        23 June 2020 07: 42
                        It was. Until an alternative appeared in the form of a foreign car. Moreover, often used. Here is the demand and. swam away - the plant closed. You can’t keep the same auto trash on the conveyor for many years in a row.
                3. -4
                  22 June 2020 19: 34
                  Quote: Malyuta
                  Life is better not because of the bastard, but because of the high prices in the hydrocarbon market

                  Gee-gee-gee !!! In the 90s they were more at times, but all went away - by interest on GKOs. If you forget, such a piece of paper, you take for six months a million, at 400%, you give it to oil fields and factories.
          3. +18
            22 June 2020 11: 58
            Quote: Boris55
            Have you ever received a salary with office paper for a Snowflake printer?
            If not, then you don’t understand.

            if you are talking about the "damned 90s", then for 2 years I did not receive children for a child and a salary of 6 months at all (even a "snowflake"). if you think that receiving remuneration for your work is a merit of the authorities (you are given money that owes ) Then rejoice and applaud.
            1. -12
              22 June 2020 13: 06
              Quote: akunin
              Then rejoice and applaud.

              Elementary in the budget of the country there was no money. Only after Putin reviewed oil and gas contracts did money appear, the state began to fulfill its social obligations.

              ps
              By the way, from Sakhalin-1, 2 we still have 30% of their income, the rest goes to the USA.
              1. -1
                23 June 2020 16: 35
                Quote: akunin
                By the way, from Sakhalin-1, 2 we still have 30% of their income, the rest goes to the USA.

                why 30%?
                Only after Putin reviewed oil and gas contracts did money appear, the state began to fulfill its social obligations.

                In April 2007, Gazprom bought back a controlling stake for $ 7,45 billion [3] - 50% plus one share - thus, Shell - 27,5% minus 1 share, Mitsui - 12,5%, Mitsubishi - 10 %
                should be 50%.
            2. -4
              22 June 2020 19: 42
              Quote: akunin
              if you think that receiving remuneration for your work is a merit of power (they give you the money they owe)

              In the 90s, under Yeltsin, it was possible not to pay, and ride around the Maldives. Under Putin, non-payment of salaries became a criminal offense. What Navalny ran into. For 4 years he did not pay workers of Kirovles a salary, as a result flew according to the article, broke up with all the millions stolen from the people, switched to American cash, and even now constantly flies to half a million - does not indicate that FBK is a foreign agent.
              1. -4
                22 June 2020 19: 48
                Quote: Oo sarcasm
                In the 90s, under Yeltsin, it was possible not to pay, and ride around the Maldives. Under Putin, non-payment of salaries became a criminal offense. What Navalny ran into. For 4 years he did not pay workers of Kirovles a salary, as a result flew according to the article, broke up with all the millions stolen from the people, switched to American cash, and even now constantly flies to half a million - does not indicate that FBK is a foreign agent.

                Brother served for him ...! And he still teaches us the fight against corruption ..?
                Look into his eyes and how he moves them with his hands .. I probably learned how to lie for a long time and they clearly taught in the special services of the State Department ..
                Why has he still not been stripped of his citizenship and not kicked out of the country?
                After all, he calls our veterans "lackeys", etc. Kirkorov, too, was activated by the Bulgarians-Romanians in his insults .. How long will the men tolerate?
          4. +3
            22 June 2020 20: 15
            "Have you ever received a salary with office paper for a Snowflake printer?
            If not, you will not understand. "

            What then were silent? Would come out like that. normal self-respecting ..... Now your past fears and self-abuse are pouring out to us. To everyone. It was not easy. How do you explain that nulling pulls the country into the abyss.
        2. +4
          22 June 2020 12: 23
          Quote: Malyuta
          After all, there are many adherents of the chief chieftain's sect who believe in his "talents," hpp, "intelligence" and "conscience."

          Perhaps some of them believe in 15 rubles.
        3. -2
          23 June 2020 15: 52
          Paid many of these.
    3. +3
      22 June 2020 15: 18
      We are already in serfs, if anyone does not understand. While with a fiscal collar in the form of personal income tax at the "non-subsistence" minimum. Soon, with a digital collar to ensure retention.
      1. -11
        22 June 2020 19: 43
        Quote: andrew42
        Soon, with a digital collar, to guarantee retention.

        Well, go to the USA. There without a collar. Immediately into the muzzle. The black.
        1. +10
          22 June 2020 20: 24
          Ooh sarcasm. Did he write with a hangover, without going into the meaning of Russian speech? My Motherland is the Russian people from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, including our old people and children. And in the USA I have nothing to do. Since you switched to "you", defender of the lordly, then the States are just paradise for such "beavers" like you, who pull the blanket of "success" over themselves and do not care about their neighbors. Therefore, curb your senseless sarcasm, and pull up your culture for a start.
          1. -6
            23 June 2020 08: 43
            Quote: andrew42
            My Motherland is the Russian people from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, including the elderly and our children.

            Well, I’m an old man. And what do you say on my behalf?
            Temper your global holiness. For your interests and beliefs of an office hamster do not coincide even with the interests and beliefs of your office neighbor.
            Yeltsin-Chubais wrote their constitution for Bantustan Russia. Full control over the administration, the court. the army from the "international", read - American, organizations. Although Honduras and Kiribati can conclude an agreement that their budgets should be filled by Russia, and boldly submit monetary claims to the UN court, their agreement is international and fully complies with the Russian constitution.
            Now that Russia in the Basic Law is moving away from the status of Bantustan - why is it so excited? No, the Russians are not your people. From your point of view, the Russians are not looking to your dreams. Like the human rights activist Novodvorskaya: hang up, hang up and hang up the commie, on which she points a finger.
            So do not worry about the people. Work hard in the sweat of your face, study for the rest of your life in order to settle down in a sunnier place in Magadan.
            1. +2
              23 June 2020 14: 01
              I don’t know what kind of “old man” you are, but when I’m 50, don’t poke me with “office hamsters” and “offices”. Either you do not see beyond your nose, or you deliberately stir everything up in one heap - the second is most likely.
              It seems that you have served in the offices in full, or you are still sitting, perhaps. For "commies" you harnessed, so "commies" is an expression that has been used since 1990 by liberals of Gaidar's style, the same "Novodvorsk". A real communist will never blur out like that. You got a puncture. If you are a communist, then a mummer, one of those that broke up the party with Gorbaty., But inside a pure bourgeois. I repeat once again - the point is not even in the amendments, where a couple of grains are still among the chaff. Half of the essence is HOW they are thrown to the people to "vote", and the very clowning around this "expression of will", which is about nothing, because EVERYTHING has already been decided in advance. The second half of the essence is that the constitution, as it was, and will remain bourgeois, does not guarantee the working people ANYTHING, except for written paper. For this he will guarantee the rights of the new bourgeoisie and its servants. A communist, damn it, there was a "Tereshkovo" type - by God, sarcasm.
              1. -2
                23 June 2020 18: 59
                Quote: andrew42
                A communist, damn it, there was a "Tereshkovo" type,

                Gee. Imagine, I was not even a Komsomol member. Well, late for the meeting. And then he waved his hand, it didn’t interfere with life.
                You, too, are a liberal Indian, since you stand for total control over Russia by foreigners? If you like the Russian constitution with preferences for external administration. And you are ashamed in front of Trump, Biden, Poroshenko and Zelinsky, and other leaders of European reservations for Putin's independence from external control. So independent that shaking his hand is a crime punishable by complete confiscation of property. Just yesterday, one more "oligarch" decided to find a safe haven in New Zealand. But the US Treasury Department frowned - and the "oligarch" had 80 million. One patriot arrived in Russia laughing
                Whether or not they pay you for lobbying the robbery of Russia, I don’t know. However, amendments, no matter what kind of sauce they go under, suit me. Like life in and around my house. The last 20 years are just fine. And I’m 60 years old. I’ve seen a lot from Nikita Sergeich to GDP.
    4. -11
      22 June 2020 19: 27
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Volodka to the kingdom and us to serfs

      no, you’ll only be a holy fool. Because under any power it will be too lazy to move. Only squeak that the ruler of the boy killed.
  3. +27
    22 June 2020 10: 12
    It is not a frequent case when I fully agree with the author. The questions in the article are not in the eyebrow, but in the eye, that's just a pity we will not get answers to them from those in power. Personally, I am a forty percent who will not go to vote for this farce. I'm just ashamed.
    1. +17
      22 June 2020 10: 57
      Dear, Leader of the Redskins. A controversy has flared up over the Amendments. In fact, this is not the most important thing. When the Power is needed, it can "close its eyes" to the Constitution (A recent example is "self-isolation"). I see that Voting for Amendments to the Constitution is an attempt in the future by those in power to convert the approval of the population of amendments to the Constitution in support of the citizens of Russia to the incumbent President, i.e. the population allegedly approved of V. Putin's actions during all the years of his rule, including the Pension Reform. This vote will be an assessment of the role of Putin in the modern history of Russia, a summing up of the results of the government. You can say: "I have erected a monument not made by hands ..." Further there should be Immunity and Peace. V. Putin will not be nominated for the next presidential term.
      A positive result will be obtained in any case. To do this, voting is carried out by all unprecedented methods and methods: voting at home, by mail, electronic voting, voting during the week. Because a positive assessment of Putin’s rule is a positive assessment of the entire bureaucratic apparatus in order to exclude various persecutions and lustrations in the future. I also do not intend to participate in this vote.
      1. +10
        22 June 2020 11: 36
        it becomes more fun and then you begin to involuntarily think, but do I need the citizenship of a country with such a government?
        that something will change for the better (for the people) in the future, I have big doubts
        1. -7
          22 June 2020 11: 45
          Run, Klingon, run ... (and never come back!)
        2. Loh
          -8
          22 June 2020 16: 37
          We are citizens of the country (fatherland) and it does not depend on the government. Get down dear Klingon boy bad, get down and don't come back.
          1. +4
            22 June 2020 21: 09
            So what will remain of the once great country if the people scatter?
      2. +13
        22 June 2020 12: 00
        Quote: AA17
        Next must be Immunity

        An article on immunity is not the most terrible amendment to the constitution. It is without options contrary to the article on equal rights. And it introduces into the constitution a division not into masters and serfs, and not even into castes like the Indian. Here, ancient Egypt is at full height. Pharaoh is the son of God, and the crowds of slaves are around.
    2. +15
      22 June 2020 11: 01
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      when I fully agree with the author.

      I also completely agree, but I am surprised by the fact how long people have been seeing. Well, there can be nothing good for the country from an ebna receiver, it CAN’t and I’ve been talking about this for 20 years!
      1. +2
        22 June 2020 21: 12
        Well, from the successor nullified, there will also be nothing good for us.
    3. -3
      23 June 2020 04: 46
      I also have more questions than intelligible answers. re-read the proposed amendments several times. almost everything is simply incomprehensible to me. what for??? what will change? I do not understand. never a supporter of Putin, but still I will go and vote for. because already do not care.
      1. -1
        23 June 2020 11: 48
        Quote: Skarpzd
        I have more questions than clear answers. I reread the proposed amendments several times. almost everything is simply incomprehensible to me. what for??? what will change? I do not understand... never a supporter of Putin, but still I will go and vote for. because already do not care.


        Well, what can I say?
        In your case, the "debilizor" has fulfilled its functions by "stopizzot" percent. wassat
        1. -2
          23 June 2020 13: 03
          what does the debilizer have to do with it? I just do not care for these amendments. I'm a middle-aged man. and I understand that what is written on paper does not mean the fulfillment of what has been stated never. in my opinion, each of the amendments separately seems to be correct, even mentioning God does not upset me, even though I am an atheist. but all together cause some kind of misunderstanding. and the rush with which all this happens personally is not entirely clear to me. zeroing? Yes, generally violet. what's the difference under what sauce will Putin be chosen again? and yes ... still such a moment - why, in fact, only 2 terms? not three or five? I repeat - I have never been, and now I am not a supporter of Putin. The reasons for this are different. but it’s me, and many people with whom I communicate have voted and will vote for him. I'm in the minority. So what? barricades to arrange now? with what? Russia has exhausted the limit on coups in my opinion. so let Putin be, sometimes he does get some things. It’s a pity that it never brings to mind.
  4. -12
    22 June 2020 10: 12
    The title photo is interesting, namely, citizens of a characteristic liberal appearance, and what is most curious, with characteristic Kumaks. Perhaps Verzilov where he lurked in the crowd.
    Boris, fight!
    1. +23
      22 June 2020 10: 22
      Let me ask you what betrays a liberal in a person?
      And do not the authorities shout about their liberality, but they look different in contrast to these in the photo.
      1. -16
        22 June 2020 10: 27
        Quote: blackice
        Let me ask you what betrays a liberal in a person?

        Who are these comrades, proletarians? They have imprinted on their faces.
        1. +8
          22 June 2020 10: 31
          Well you know !!!
          Someone looking at you, too, someone might think a lot.
          Of course, in any crowd there are people catching their fish in troubled waters, but you should definitely not judge everyone.
          1. -10
            22 June 2020 10: 35
            Quote: blackice
            Someone looking at you, too, someone might think a lot.

            I don't care much about who and what can .... think a lot while looking at me.
            I, by the gatherings under the Bandera flags, are not a walker.
            And where are the hungry proletarians? Show at least one in the photo.
            1. +6
              22 June 2020 10: 39
              And you take a closer look.
              I don’t think that there, for the sake of demonstration, some came out in frankly Chinese shmurdyak (it's hard to call it normal clothes)
              1. -4
                22 June 2020 10: 42
                Quote: blackice
                some came out in frankly Chinese shmurdyak

                The whole country walks in frankly Chinese shmurdyak.
                Comrade, keep fighting for a free trial!
                1. +11
                  22 June 2020 10: 49
                  The whole country walks in frankly Chinese shmurdyak.

                  Just paid and endowed with power in frankly Chinese do not go.
                2. +16
                  22 June 2020 12: 35
                  Quote: bober1982
                  The whole country walks in frankly Chinese shmurdyak.

                  Oooh! Damned liberals! What is the country up to ... and ... stop ... Liberals are those who are against the government? And the authorities - for import substitution. But aren't the liberals in power? Or liberals? I’m completely confused ... Probably, after the adoption of the amendments, we will throw off the Chinese shmurdyak, like a snake in the skin during molting, and put on gold and brocade like the staff of the Russian Orthodox Church.
                  - Oh! Wan! Look, what dwarfs!
                  Wearing a jersey - not a jerk,
                  At our fifth garment factory
                  This is unlikely anyone will sing.

                  And you, by golly, Wan,
                  Well, all my friends are so torn
                  And they always drink at such an early time
                  Such rubbish! (C)
            2. +4
              22 June 2020 11: 08
              Sorry, where did you spot the Bandera flag?
              I see the European Union, I see Ukraine ... But I don’t watch red and black ... request or are you allergic to blue, gold and yellow?
              1. -7
                22 June 2020 11: 17
                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                I see the European Union, I see Ukraine ...

                Who staggers under such flags? Starving proletarians and labor peasants?
                Are you a supporter of European integration?
                1. +10
                  22 June 2020 11: 23
                  I am a supporter of objectivity:
                  where is the bandera flag?
                  1. -16
                    22 June 2020 11: 27
                    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                    I am a supporter of objectivity:
                    where is the bandera flag?

                    Ukraine, there is BANDERSTAN, dear comrade, a supporter of objectivity! This is a fascist quasi-state.
                    Photos for the article are unsuccessful, frankly "burned", which means haste, hence such punctures.
                    1. +8
                      22 June 2020 11: 35
                      Turn off the iron, coffee grinder and TV. Tear down the posters of Solovyov and Kiselyov from the wall. Get back to reality ....
                2. -13
                  22 June 2020 11: 54
                  There, basically, those who did not lift anything heavier than a fountain pen. Professional guardians for the people, faithful colleagues of Vicki Nuland.
              2. DVR
                -4
                22 June 2020 19: 00
                Sorry, where did you spot the Bandera flag?
                I see the European Union, I see Ukraine ... But I don’t watch red and black ... request or are you allergic to blue, gold and yellow?

                The leader of the redskins (Nazarii), who claims that there is no neo-Nazism in Ukraine, justifying this ukronazism, now claims that the flag of Ukraine is not Bandera? The flag of Ukraine, which Bandera recognized as its national hero, who executes people by the name of this bastard and the executioners are untouchable, can not now be called Bandera?
                1. +3
                  22 June 2020 19: 27
                  Do not distort. I NEVER wrote about the lack of nationalism in Ukraine. Bandera had their own flag - red-black.
                  You can call your wet dreams whatever you like, but don’t take this nonsense out. There are facts. As soon as you show me the Bandera flag in this photo, I will apologize to everyone, the crown will not fall.
                  For example, I, too, at your post have formed an opinion about you. But I can’t stand it as a fact on public display ....
                  1. DVR
                    +1
                    22 June 2020 20: 03
                    Do not distort. I NEVER wrote about the lack of nationalism in Ukraine.

                    This is not about nationalism, if you read my comment, it is about neo-Nazism in Ukraine, revived and supported from the outside.
                    You can call your wet dreams whatever you like, but do not take this nonsense out. There are facts.

                    I brought you the facts in the last discussion. Are you few? Can you comment on the above?
                    For example, I, too, at your post have formed an opinion about you. But I can’t stand it as a fact on public display ....

                    You can bear any facts, it won’t bother me. Make up your mind about what you want about me, it doesn’t bother me. There are topics where there can be no consensus or discussion. There can be no movement of the discourse window here. Justifying Nazism-the enemy, no discussion. And what to put on display, all in open comments, not in PM.
                    As you wrote there:
                    To the extent that we are described by the media - no. Fascists, by the way, are 100 percent. You just may not be aware, but the Nazis and the Nazis are different concepts.
                    Nationalism is present. Incidentally, he is akin to National Socialism. Sometimes manifested in a radical form. But so that to shout about him from the irons - I have not met and from relatives and friends I have not heard. But if you equate to such manifestations of zigzag and torchlight processions, then with the surprise of the Nazis you can find us.

                    You mix Nazism and nationalism so strangely, then compare it with National Socialism. Further, according to your logic, you can compare all this with socialism :)
                    To all these twists, I answered you back then and am ready to repeat:
                    Ukraine is under external control, which can be discussed here. Fascization is not 100% conditional, because Ukraine is a manual state, and fascism is manual. Therefore, some criteria of fascism are not directly applicable. Now he will teach us the terms: fascism, nationalism, socialism, national socialism. In fact, this is a pathetic attempt to justify neo-Nazism in Ukraine and in general.
                    In Ukraine, this is the state level, where the Nazis are untouchable, they burn people in Odessa and do a lot of other things and go unpunished. And here they are marginalized and traitors who will not lift a finger openly, since there are enough men in Russia. They learn in narrow circles the precepts of Bandera), they are not capable of more, because the state is not fascist, unlike Ukraine. Show me examples from us. I have already shown the most "harmless" ones. Look again, your brothers are frolicking:
                    https://vk.com/video163296047_168410119
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=0Z_BomHI25E&feature=emb_title

                    PS:
                    The article is not in trend in time, do not worry - the majority will not read our dialogue. Search "with the surprise of the Nazis with us."
                    1. -2
                      22 June 2020 20: 52
                      I didn’t even put a minus to you, because you are clearly not in the know. Google fascism, Nazism, nationalism and you will be surprised to see that these are different concepts. And applying them to neighbors would just kindle stronger national impatience.
                      1. DVR
                        +1
                        22 June 2020 21: 06
                        Google fascism, Nazism, nationalism and you will be surprised to see that these are different concepts.

                        You are right, I spoke about this in the previous comment. And in the answers you replace Nazism and nationalism. On fascism and its features in Ukraine, too, everything is said above.
                        I didn’t even put a minus to you, because you are clearly not in the know.

                        And here in vain. Here, on the 15th, I wrote to a respected person:
                        ... I want to reach a private in a couple of weeks - here at the moment this is the most honorary title.

                        It doesn’t work, my hands do not reach commenting, I don’t have time to read articles at times. I’m still not a protroll. Almost all my comments are quarantined while time waswink
                      2. -3
                        22 June 2020 21: 17
                        You in the previous comment did NOT write ANYTHING intelligible. Standard set of propaganda. If you owned the question, then you realized that there is NOTHING shameful in nationalism. This is simply the identification of a nation as citizens of a single country, faith and so on. Radical nationalism is much worse. Nowadays, it manifests itself everywhere. Scumbags enough.
                        Nazism is worse. But he does not approach Ukraine, since there is anti-Semitism in it. In Ukraine? When same and Kolomoisky? !!!
                        Odessa? People burned on a national basis? And who burned? Surprise, but the inhabitants of Odessa and Kharkov are mostly Russian-speaking people.
                        I do not recommend you argue on those issues in which you are poorly versed.
                      3. DVR
                        +1
                        22 June 2020 22: 35
                        You in the previous comment did NOT write ANYTHING intelligible.

                        In the previous comments, of which there are few, I have defined the specifics of Ukrainian "manual" fascism. And also said:
                        This is not about nationalism, if you read my comment, it is about neo-Nazism in Ukraine, revived and supported from the outside.

                        Standard set of propaganda.

                        You discovered the Nazis in Russia, but you stubbornly do not want to see the Nazis and fascists in Ukraine. Immutable Nazis, as evidenced by the abundance of facts, and only their supporter will argue with this.
                        So, no agitation, only the facts in all my previous comments that you never bothered to answer.
                        If you owned the question, then you realized that there is NOTHING shameful in nationalism. This is simply the identification of a nation as citizens of a single country, faith and so on.

                        I had nothing and I have nothing against "healthy" and patriotic nationalism, however, in Russia it is applicable only in relation to the "nation", in relation to "citizens of Russia", who are about 200 nationalities. Which is essentially patriotism. Nationalism on a national basis in a country with hundreds of nationalities is not acceptable to us (and to anyone else) - it is destructive nationalism leading to the abyss. This is exactly what is happening in Ukraine now.
                        Nazism is worse. But he does not approach Ukraine, since there is anti-Semitism in it.

                        And who told you that the defining feature of Nazism is anti-Semitism? Is anti-Slavism not Nazism? And Russophobia, which blooms in a riotous color.
                        Odessa? People burned on a national basis?

                        People were burned on the grounds of rejection of the fascist, neo-Nazi, Russophobian regime.
                      4. -3
                        22 June 2020 22: 40
                        You, apparently, are too lazy to google and read Hu from Hu. So you issue your definitions and draws them to what is convenient for you. Google it, and then start the argument.
                      5. DVR
                        0
                        22 June 2020 22: 59
                        You, apparently, are too lazy to google and read Hu from Hu. So you issue your definitions and draws them to what is convenient for you.

                        You just confirmed what has been known for a long time, Redskin. Not a single meaningful answer, "google" and "Hu from Hu" - all you can? I issue rulings on the facts executed in Ukraine (I’m not taking Donbass, where everything was much worse), but you cannot say anything against it. The owner does not order, you are here "zero" already, except for your "brothers" wink
                      6. -4
                        22 June 2020 23: 04
                        Yes, yes ... A crucified boy, a girl foamed with foam concrete, acted out exterminated .... I heard this from the television screens of our channels.
                        And in January he was in Kiev with his father and admired the niggas on the mountain ash, spoke Russian, listened to Russian speech in response. Do not write me anymore. You are not interested ....
                      7. -4
                        22 June 2020 23: 36
                        Quote: DVR
                        I wrote here on the 15th

                        DVR, welcome, glad to "see" you! hi Yesterday I remembered your comment about 2x2 = 4 (threw up the pluses). Something else you are in the rank - badly minus?
                      8. DVR
                        +2
                        23 June 2020 07: 28
                        DVR, welcome, glad to "see" you!

                        Mutually, Motorist, glad to "hear")
                        Something else you are in the rank - badly minus?

                        Alas, opportunities do not always coincide with desires. The first time this week on the site - hands do not reach. But here you chase pseudo-patriots well enough, since they are not so smart and are fired at once. Occasionally I will visit hi
          2. -21
            22 June 2020 10: 51
            Quote: blackice
            Let me ask you what betrays a liberal in a person?

            Here is a photo:



            Well, just a wonderful photo! They, the collapsed union, who wrote the current Constitution under the dictation of the State Department, do not want to change anything. Everything suits them. What about us? Do we still want to see Chubaisik and Gaidar men in power?

            Regarding the inscription on the poster: "only for one term."
            There is a good proverb: "If you want to ruin the business, change the leader more often. If you want to ruin the country, change the president more often." These popular proverbs reflect the true purpose of their demands - Russia must remain a raw material appendage. Russia must fall apart and become the second Africa ...

            Today is the beginning of the Second World War. As then our grandfathers defended our independence from the West, so today we must defend the independence of our Motherland from the same West. Let's rebuff the ideological enemy. Let's vote for the immediate entry into force of the "Law on amendments to the Constitution"!
            1. +15
              22 June 2020 11: 32
              Boris in his repertoire .. For 20 years they did not save Russia with the old constitution, but then the savior decided to save .. he saw his sight, so to speak .. suddenly ..
              1. -9
                22 June 2020 11: 50
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                20 years did not save Russia with the old constitution

                That wasn’t before. The country was falling apart, what is the Constitution ...

                "Take as much sovereignty as you can", Far Eastern Republic. Lebed: "There is no land for us beyond the Urals", Rossel has already published the Ural francs, the Caucasus, Tataria, Bashkiria, "Enough to feed Moscow" ...

                The time has come to change the Constitution.
                1. +16
                  22 June 2020 12: 00
                  You talk about 25-30 years ago, and in 2008-2010 why was there no question of change? It's 10 years, a lot of it .. And everything was already pretty good compared to 1995-6 .. Why in 2007, Putin himself said that he would not change the Constitution, regarding the election of the President, but now he says the opposite?
                  1. -19
                    22 June 2020 12: 23
                    Quote: 2 level advisor
                    ... and in 2008-2010 why there was no question of change?

                    And who was in power at that time? That's right - Medvedev, who was given an iPhone, he and he lost to the end of the term ...
                    We have recently gained food security and restored military power.

                    To radically change the Constitution, we need a "Law on the Constitutional Assembly". The State Duma elected under the current Constitution tried to pass this law four times, but did not. That is why Putin is changing the Constitution in order to qualitatively change the composition of the Duma and begin a radical reform of the Constitution for the benefit of the people.

                    Only independent Russia will be able to ensure the prosperity of the country and its citizens.

                    Who likes Russia to remain a raw materials appendage of the West, you can stay at home.
                    1. +5
                      22 June 2020 21: 22
                      Boris55 (Boris): There is a good proverb: "If you want to ruin the business, change your leader more often. If you want to ruin the country, change the president more often."

                      The country - the USA refutes this proverb, there they regularly change presidents and do not touch the constitution at all, and the result is the most powerful country with a standard of living higher than ours.
                2. +8
                  22 June 2020 16: 53
                  Boris You are a member of the Nodov Fedor sect - one and the same mantra - word for word on all resources. And the manuals of Uncle Fedor do not change from year to year. Riding one wave with him and milking it slowly
            2. +10
              22 June 2020 11: 43
              Let's vote for the immediate entry into force of the "Law on amendments to the Constitution"!
              Why are we sitting, who are we waiting for? Have you voted for the amendments? Can you tell me why he was satisfied with the ETA constitution for 20 years, and when all the tricks came out, he decided to fix it up?
              1. +4
                22 June 2020 21: 25
                He wants to sit on the throne as long as possible, preferably until the end of his life, otherwise there is a danger that he will be "attracted", he does not trust anyone, but Yeltsin believed him and handed him the throne.
                1. -2
                  23 June 2020 10: 34
                  but Yeltsin believed him and handed the throne. ,,
                  He (Yeltsin) simply knew that he could trust him.
            3. +10
              22 June 2020 11: 50
              Quote: Boris55
              Today is the beginning of the Second World War. As then our grandfathers defended our independence from the West, so today we must defend the independence of our Motherland from the same West. Let's rebuff the ideological enemy. Let's vote for the immediate entry into force of the "Law on amendments to the Constitution"!

              Who are we fighting with ?! With buggers ?! wassat
              1. +3
                22 June 2020 15: 45
                And they are around
            4. +17
              22 June 2020 12: 08
              Quote: Boris55
              They, the collapsed union, who wrote the current Constitution under the dictation of the State Department, do not want to change anything.

              In fact, Mr. Putin in August 1991 carried the tail of a dog. And sobchak ... And sobchak is one of the most active participants in the collapse of the USSR. So Mr. Guarantor took an active part in the process of destroying the country. And just because he was a petty bipod he didn’t get into chambers for a couple with always sober .. But you do not blame Putin for the collapse of the country. So what?
              1. -14
                22 June 2020 12: 25
                At one time, Comrade Stalin walked in an embrace with Comrade Trotsky. What does it mean? But that doesn’t mean anything.
                1. +18
                  22 June 2020 12: 33
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  At one time, Comrade Stalin walked in an embrace with Comrade Trotsky. What does it mean? But that doesn’t mean anything.

                  It means everything. The ITT hugged Trotsky when the common enemy was destroyed. After that, the hugs stopped abruptly. If we draw this analogy, then who Putin and Sobchak was a common enemy? Praaavilno. THE USSR. What are we talking about.
              2. -16
                22 June 2020 12: 30
                Quote: Lannan Shi
                In fact, Mr. Putin in August 1991 carried the tail of a dog.

                Do you blame Putin for the collapse of the USSR? wassat

                How do you think Putin could have infiltrated the Family clan? Came all like this in a leather jacket, with a revolver in a holster and started building everyone? laughing

                After Putin started the second Chechen war, Yeltsin's daughter exclaimed: "Oh, we chose the wrong one." They realized that Putin would not let the country fall apart ...
                1. +18
                  22 June 2020 12: 39
                  Quote: Boris55
                  How do you think Putin could have infiltrated the Family clan?

                  Laponka. In 1990, the office was quite in good shape. But the clan did not yet exist, as such. He gained real strength after the collapse. And if you would like to dig up the Putin’s of various ranks ... Although they would have quietly dug in a forest, they would have moved to the camera, even if they were a tank on the Arbat, 10 times .. But they had other dreams, at that time. About life in the West, and not at the level of a simple hard worker. So all evil spirits rushed, who came to the KGB for a crust and goods, to serve the dogs and other meadow animals.
                  1. -16
                    22 June 2020 13: 02
                    Quote: Lannan Shi
                    So all the evil spirits that came to the KGB for crust and benefits

                    State security and the foreign intelligence service are several different departments. SVR - beat the CIA. And by the way, such as Putin was not alone. We are fortunate to have such a leader.
                    1. +19
                      22 June 2020 13: 25
                      Quote: Boris55
                      State security and the foreign intelligence service are several different departments.

                      Laponka. So, for information. There was no SVR in the USSR. It was the 1st KGB department.
                      Quote: Boris55
                      SVR - beat the CIA.

                      Well, yes, yes. The United States fell apart into different Arizona and Texas, and the USSR was intact.
                      Quote: Boris55
                      We are fortunate to have such a leader.

                      You? Maybe. But Russia is not very. If the Union were so lucky in the 30s that instead of a temporary detention center there would be something pathogenic, preoccupied not with factories and power plants, but with yachts and palaces for members of the Central Committee .... You would now clean the pig-house for the right Aryan pigs. If at all existed.
                      Only the Rotenberg brothers, without a shaggy paw, unable to do anything more than rags at the level of the shuttle of the middle hand, cost the country a squadron of a dozen frigates. Only 2 buddies .... With such luck, failure is not necessary.
                    2. +18
                      22 June 2020 13: 43
                      Quote: Boris55
                      We are fortunate to have such a leader.

                      Is Volodin himself hiding under the nickname Boris 55? wassat wassat Your phrases hurt like Volodin’s nonsense
            5. +16
              22 June 2020 13: 00
              Quote: Boris55
              Do we still want to see Chubaisik and Gaidar men in power?

              And the authorities are violet who "you" want to see and who do not want. Chubais sat and sits for himself. And while he sits where he sits, and not where he deserves, any talk about some "liberals" with placards is a concussion of the air, nothing more.
              Quote: Boris55
              There is a good proverb: "If you want to ruin your business, change your leader more often. If you want to ruin the country, change the president more often."

              Himself came up with something? Here is a proverb:
              Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. (C)
              Quote: Boris55
              Today is the beginning of the Second World War. As then our grandfathers defended our independence from the West, so today we must defend the independence of our Motherland from the same West. Let's rebuff the ideological enemy. Let's vote for the immediate entry into force of the "Law on amendments to the Constitution"!

              Not today, but 79 years ago. Zaputintsy in their frenzy see no boundaries in time. They mentally “fight” everything, “repeat” everything ... They sucked like leeches to the achievements of their fathers / grandfathers and do not know how to restrain ...
        2. 0
          22 June 2020 16: 42
          Quote: bober1982
          Quote: blackice
          Let me ask you what betrays a liberal in a person?

          Who are these comrades, proletarians? They have imprinted on their faces.

          Honestly, "Comrade Karjakin" of you is "not very" No.
          / sarcasm /
    2. -11
      22 June 2020 12: 06
      And somewhere, Rashkin from the Communist Party with a flag on duty with a cam that he and Bolotnoy drags ...
      And with them are the sectarians of the "invisible hand of the market" who did not fit into the market and Western investments wassat
    3. +11
      22 June 2020 12: 17
      Putin himself is a liberal.
  5. DPN
    +7
    22 June 2020 10: 16
    What is strange ??? I gave the word, I rightfully took the strong.
  6. -18
    22 June 2020 10: 24
    Stolypin: “They need great shocks, we need a great Russia”

    "And finally, I want to ask those readers who want to vote against the amendments to the 1993 Constitution:

    "Do you still want to stand side by side with these" agitators "?

    Or will you finally understand that an information war has been unleashed against the country, which will ultimately lead to only one thing: a change of power in Russia and its subordination to the world hegemon - the United States? You call yourself "patriots", but you stand on the same side with these insignificant people whom I showed you. What kind of patriots are you if you help these people destroy the country under beautiful slogans?

    You will not see any improvement in life in the country, or socialism, or a new Constitution, or even amendments to this one for the second time. Another US puppet will be brought to power with the help of the same information technologies, with the help of which thoughts are now being hammered into your head about the illegality of adopting amendments, the idea that everything is being thought only for the sake of zeroing Putin's terms, thoughts that you should vote for each amendment separately, they scare you with various negative consequences and look for something in the amendments that is not there, so that you can vote against emotionally. And how does the United States know how to bring its puppets to power ...... "
    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/provinciya/predstavliaiu-vam-agitatorov-kotorye-prizyvaiut-golosovat-protiv-popravok-v-konstituciiu-5ee3f756d8a44554805017ff
    ..see who is against the amendments and turn on the brain
    1.Capitalism in Russia cannot be canceled tomorrow ..
    2. In Russia there is no other force that could take over the governance of the country Just do not make laugh with the Communist Party and its nominees
    3. The very fact of discussing amendments and allowing them to be criticized speaks volumes.
    4. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe considers it possible to amend the country's constitution before the expiration of his powers in September 2021. And this is only the beginning
    1. +16
      22 June 2020 10: 46
      How many amendments have been made to improve the lives of ordinary people and how many amendments have been made to consolidate the power of ONE SPECIFIC person?
      1. +14
        22 June 2020 12: 10
        Quote: blackice
        How many amendments have been made to improve the lives of ordinary people

        None. For, if necessary, they are all leveled at the level of laws, decrees and other decrees.
      2. -9
        22 June 2020 16: 10
        "Glyupiy ryussky! Nicht vote! Don't walk, stay at home" - already with humor ..
        "Glyupy Ryssky! Mi, wish you only goodness to the world community, open your eyes to you! Twist the translator, something is not right ... oh, here. Open your eyes!"

        Understand, stupid Russians: voting for the Constitution as a whole is wrong and criminal! Vote only for those items that you like and which you don't like - reject indignantly! Only in this way will you build freedom and democracy on the ruins of your country (we will ensure the ruins for you, it will be such humanitarian aid from us), therefore we vote only “NO” and wait for another vote - on separate points! ..

        ........ At each point where the state owes you, you will absolutely answer “YES”.

        At every point in which you owe the state, your categorical "NO" will flaunt, and three times underlined ... "(Sergey Vasiliev
        See at the root Today 09:23) https://cont.ws/@sevariga/1708467
    2. +2
      22 June 2020 10: 47
      Quote: To be or not to be
      "Do you still want to stand side by side with these" agitators "?

      Believe me, try that many are not just standing there and that’s why
      Quote: To be or not to be
      that an information war has been unleashed against the country, which in the end will lead only to one thing: to a change of power in Russia and its subordination to the world hegemon - the United States?

      Those who are against the ranks are not homogeneous in their aspirations, this is true, but those who stand for what the "patriots" love to write about are VERY NOT MUCH, their minuscule, in comparison with those who are primarily for our country and wishes that we ourselves would build OUR life, better than now ...
      Yes, most of these people do not have their hopes in the current government, because ... in short, there is no faith in them, and certainly not at the direction of .... themselves, we have come to this.
      1. -18
        22 June 2020 10: 56
        1. Russia entered a new stage of development ..
        2. There was an answer from the united west, threatening the national security of the country. A brazen informational and psychological warfare is waging against Russia. Military groups around its borders are being strengthened and exercises and intelligence activities are increasing
        Recent presidential statements show a lot:
        -7 Mar 2018 - Putin: "Why do we need such a world if there is no Russia"?
        -President Vladimir Putin approved on June 2, 2020, "The Foundations of the State Policy of the Russian Federation in the Field of Nuclear Deterrence"
        Such at this level is not born from scratch
        3 The world is at a crossroads .. and gradually goes to chaos and a global crisis
        The US World Hegemon is no longer coping with its role. What can this lead to? to the collapse of the financial system. to the collapse of the world security system To the collapse of the economies of leading countries?

        4. Economic conditions appeared in Russia to support the social issues of the population. About this and in the amendments to the Constitution
        Just a moment of truth - “to be or not to be”
        5 About zeroing - not in the GDP matter A hurt for the future. There is nothing eternal in the world
        1. +9
          22 June 2020 11: 39
          Quote: To be or not to be
          . Russia entered a new stage of development ..

          It is possible in more detail, in what, at what stage and when?
          Quote: To be or not to be
          Recent presidential statements show a lot:

          What do they testify to? Are you looking for something that is not? I see in them only a reminder that we can "bang"
          Quote: To be or not to be
          to the collapse of the financial system

          For about 30 years everything "is about to collapse", but still nothing (by the way, what does the Constitution have to do with it?)
          Quote: To be or not to be
          Economic conditions appeared in Russia to support social issues

          In more detail, what kind of economic conditions suddenly appeared for this, compared with, for example, 10 years ago?
          Quote: To be or not to be
          About zeroing - not in GDP

          But in whom, if the words about the incumbent President at the time of the adoption of the Constitution for which the deadlines are not considered past - exclusively and only about him?
        2. +16
          22 June 2020 12: 17
          Quote: To be or not to be
          4. Economic conditions appeared in Russia to support the social issues of the population. About this and in the amendments to the Constitution

          Laponka. The country has 20 million beggars. These are those who live below the subsistence level. To reduce this number by half or three, there is no need for any constitutional amendments. Enough to increase the size of the minimum wage. Who is stopping this from happening? State Department? Evil neighbors from Ukraine? The terrorists? Curve and bad constitution? If for me, then not the above, but the appetites of the Sechins, Timchen women and other guarantor friends. And neither the constitution nor the laws work against this kodla.
          1. -6
            22 June 2020 13: 21
            Kisonka ... You bring the UN poverty alleviation program. There’s even better statistics And why is it from human madness .. There are a lot of problems on earth. And mankind is playing war
    3. +20
      22 June 2020 11: 11
      Dear, To be or not to be. This vote is not only about amendments to the Constitution of Russia. This is a vote of confidence in the President.
      In Russia, and not only in Russia, they have never trusted a person who does not keep his word. He was always considered an unreliable person. Why, in politics, we should trust a person who is not “master” of his word: “... Therefore, under no circumstances do I intend to change the Constitution” (2005), “… I am against increasing the retirement age. no such decision will be made ”(2005).,“ ... this is the creation of about 25 million new jobs, its implementation is already on the march ... ”(2013).
      Maybe in his environment he is a man of his word, but then there was no need to address these words to the Citizens of Russia. As the proverb says: "The word is not a sparrow, you will not catch a flight."
      1. -12
        22 June 2020 11: 33
        Only the blind did not see and the deaf did not hear how the situation changed .. For each specific situation for a certain time Azi’s own approach .. it’s a pity that many do not understand
        1. +13
          22 June 2020 12: 15
          How will you look with your family, among friends, if the children once promised to go to the zoo and did not fulfill their promise, referring to being busy, and so three times in a row? And they promised to help a friend with car repairs and did not fulfill their promises, and so on three times in a row? I think neither your family nor your friends will believe you anymore, even if you tell them that "... Each specific situation has its own approach for a certain period of time ..."
        2. +11
          22 June 2020 13: 23
          Quote: To be or not to be
          Only the blind did not see and the deaf did not hear how the situation changed .. For each specific situation for a certain time Azi’s own approach .. it’s a pity that many do not understand

          This means that there was no one to rob and decided to rob people in retirement for 5 years?
          1. +9
            22 June 2020 17: 24
            Quote: SVD68
            Quote: To be or not to be
            Only the blind did not see and the deaf did not hear how the situation changed .. For each specific situation for a certain time Azi’s own approach .. it’s a pity that many do not understand

            This means that there was no one to rob and decided to rob people in retirement for 5 years?

            Back in 2009, then Deputy Prime Minister S. Ivanov, issued his "historical" phrase
            - "People are our second oil."
            In the conditions of the carbohydrate market crisis, intensive "development" of this resource began.
      2. +13
        22 June 2020 12: 09
        Quote: AA17
        This is a vote of confidence in the President.

        That's right for trusting President Putin.
        To Putin, who, as a KGB officer, vowed to defend the homeland of the USSR to the last drop of blood, and before the battle he went over to the shitty dogs sobchaks and Co.
        The communist Putin, who was a communist, was hanging stars for epaulettes for this. And they gave special rations
        Putin, who, along with Yeltsin, gave away the largest enterprises of Russia to friends of the oligarchs,
        Putin, who swore to voters not to raise their retirement age,
        Putin who brought Russia that she became an outcast country and quarreled with all neighbors.
        Putin whose enemies of Russia are friends and partners.
        I vote for confidence in the President, only he should have a different surname.
    4. +13
      22 June 2020 12: 27
      Quote: To be or not to be
      Capitalism in Russia cannot be canceled tomorrow ..

      And do not cancel. Let private owners engage in public services, retail, consumer goods, and food.
      But the criminal privatization of 1996-2000 must be abolished, strategic sectors should be returned to state ownership. For the period of using the property, collect from the oligarchs a rent in the amount of percent of the turnover at world prices.
      I am sure the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Prosecutor's Office, the FSB will perfectly cope with this task.
      There are only 200 billionaires, I think they will find a place in the Russian pre-trial detention center
  7. +11
    22 June 2020 10: 24
    Another current survey
  8. +21
    22 June 2020 10: 26
    It seems to me that our government is preparing some kind of just a masterpiece gift to us. Something before which pension reform will simply fade. But for this, the whole world really needs to show that we all, more precisely, 70%, support what is happening.

    Not necessary. Maybe it just touched the future. After all, while there is at least some rating, you need to act. Then it may not be enough.
    In general, Putin's mistake is that he missed the moment of the maximum "patriotic" mood of the population.
    It would seem that if he had rolled out such an initiative in 2015, all the talk about the illegitimacy of the train tickets would have come to naught. Just imagine: 15 years, Crimea, import substitution, dedolarization, the next stage of getting up from their knees, millions of Russians ready to bury America and Europe, and here are amendments to ban gays, bills and citizenship, about patriotism, about Gd, about the Russian people and even about protection of animals. What is there to think about? Of course vote "for".

    Now the moment is clearly missed. There are fewer and fewer people willing to believe in a cunning plan; the patriotic rise from Crimea is dying away. There are no jerks and breakthroughs. There is still no time for buildup. And America still will not fall apart.
    1. +15
      22 June 2020 10: 49
      In general, Putin's mistake is that he missed the moment of the maximum "patriotic" mood of the population.

      There is such a thing ... especially when the struggle of the LDNR republics for their survival began ... after the purge of the well-known LDNR commanders, I got a lot of distrust towards the Kremlin representatives.
      And how could one allow the Bandera regime to come to power in Ukraine ... and even recognize its legitimacy ... here the Kremlin struck itself.
  9. +7
    22 June 2020 10: 28
    That's for sure.
    That is, absolutely nothing in the life of the country will not change.

    And amendments are like soup. If something "inedible" gets into it, then it is already spoiled soup, no matter how tasty it is. So from the amendments. It seems that there is something sane, but among this there is something that you categorically reject. So I will go and bet against
  10. -9
    22 June 2020 10: 30
    What can I say about Sakhalin.
    The island has normal weather ...

    And so I want to bring in if not a storm, then at least a breeze stronger. Do not wait!
  11. +2
    22 June 2020 10: 35
    The argument that “there is no one else” let's leave too, there are 146 million in the country, and there you can not find another honest and intelligent person?

    Why leave? It is even possible to exchange opinions, why there is "no one else" and whose jamb is this? wink
  12. +9
    22 June 2020 10: 37
    There are many questions, the answer is most likely one - Putin really wants to continue to stand at the helm. The main thing is to reset to zero, everything else is a smoke screen.
  13. +4
    22 June 2020 10: 39
    But why so disrespectful neglect? Who said that a Russian citizen is not able to appreciate the importance of certain amendments?

    This is reality, power, even conditionally, not for EVERYONE in any way!
    For her, her / friends of power, most importantly .... enemies, these are enemies, where everyone is written, who is not for her.
    And no middle ground, those who are behind the MOTHERLAND in body and soul, but have no confidence in this government ... WHERE ARE THERE ???
    I agree that those who are for the country, the people, and not for these upper, very, very different! But there are VERY MANY of them and just like that they will not be thrown over the side of life!
  14. +9
    22 June 2020 10: 44
    I agree with the author. The authorities have prepared some kind of big kerdyk. All rituals about "the need to vote" are appeals to support the authorities. I don’t know how, I don’t participate in this show. In general, 1991 I do not participate in such events. And I can’t trust a person who doesn’t answer for his words.
  15. +4
    22 June 2020 10: 46
    But why so disrespectful neglect? Who said that a Russian citizen is not able to appreciate the importance of certain amendments?

    Experience. Analysis. If you already swallowed the pension, then there will be no problems.
    Such a people, no one will evaluate, they will go and say yes.
  16. +3
    22 June 2020 10: 51
    And here I have this very question: who to believe? To the one who stated this in past years, or to the one who today says that without changing the Constitution, the country will simply fall apart?

    This question arises in 10% of the politically active population, who reads forums and knows what was said in previous years.
    The crowd - on the drum, they will go and say - yes. THERE know this and do not worry. On the unexpected - there are fallback options.
    Battle planning.
  17. -4
    22 June 2020 10: 54
    Well, where is such a rush from?

    The world is not what it seems. The crowd sees the tip of the iceberg. In about 30 years we’ll find out.
    1. +3
      22 June 2020 11: 17
      The world is not what it is seen from "TV". If "everything is clear" to you, then "TV" wins.
      1. +1
        22 June 2020 11: 22
        The world is not what it is seen from "TV". If "everything is clear" to you, then "TV" wins.

        It’s not clear to me, there is no tolerance. But I know, if the stars are lit, then someone needs this.
        Putin is not fussy, if in a hurry, there is a reason.
      2. 0
        22 June 2020 11: 59
        Quote: iouris
        If "everything is clear to you," then "TV" wins.

        There are two main parties in Russia
        Zombie Party
        Refrigerator batch
        1. 0
          22 June 2020 22: 30
          There is always only one real game. It can have two factions. Everything else - "third parties" (sturgeon of the second grade).
  18. -3
    22 June 2020 10: 56
    Given the creation of a single digital base of Russian citizens, there should be further digital documents, digital money, a digital government (anonymized without a full name), and the stigmatization of slaves, the rest as expenses.
  19. +9
    22 June 2020 10: 56
    By law, there are "elections" and "referendum".
    And there is no such thing as "popular vote".
    What is that?
    And well people are diverted from the topic (in the first picture) by creating such "passages".
    It is necessary to change the system, not power.
    Power is pawns.
    1. +2
      22 June 2020 11: 16
      How do you combine the concepts of "people" and "political struggle"?
      Everything real is rational, everything rational is real. The system exists while it is able to exist.
      1. +1
        22 June 2020 13: 35
        You bent as much as the brain nearly exploded.
        So are you "for the red or for the white?")))
        1. 0
          22 June 2020 22: 00
          "For Russia, for the tsar and for the ve-e-ru! (Although there is already nothing)."
          1. -2
            23 June 2020 21: 39
            So an idolater)
    2. 0
      22 June 2020 22: 34
      The word "power" in the Russian Federation is of the same order as "democracy", "liberals", "oligarchs", "commies" ... It seems that everyone understands everything, but these are all labels. As Andropov once said: "We do not know the society in which we live."
      1. -1
        23 June 2020 21: 41
        Is "There" everything different? ...
        and the sky is bluer and the foliage greener ... and democracy is more democratic ...
        eh ... just the same paradise on earth.
  20. +6
    22 June 2020 11: 02
    You can already vote once, so as not to vote in general, why do we need this circus? Everyone understands that this is just a circus.
  21. -1
    22 June 2020 11: 12
    "Where? Why"? The author has shown that he is still capable of posing many questions. It is required to demonstrate the adequacy of one's vision of the picture of the world, to reveal the sources of information, the ability to analyze it and formulate tasks. There will be what will be. And what will happen, we'll see. In my time.
    1. +7
      22 June 2020 11: 57
      See when the gates of the concentration camp shut behind you
      1. -5
        22 June 2020 12: 40
        Well, wait.
        With a beer.
  22. -8
    22 June 2020 11: 38
    Quote: R. Skomorokhov
    Yes, I was also surprised by such pressure from coffee grinders, irons, fences and garages, which also became agitators for voting on the package of amendments

    1. We vote not for amendments, but for the entry, or not entry, of the adopted Amendment Law into force. Link to the Law: http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/news/62988

    2. Why did you decide that anyone can do propaganda, but not the authorities of the country? If you haven’t noticed Medvedev is already gone. Clintanoid power in Russia is coming to an end. Get used to the new realities.
    1. +7
      22 June 2020 13: 20
      Original law. For one day. Completely contrary
      Federal Law of 04.03.1998/33/08.03.2015 N XNUMX-FZ (as amended on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX) "On the procedure for the adoption and entry into force of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation" and the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Does not cancel a single article of the existing law.
  23. +4
    22 June 2020 11: 43
    LGBT legions
    to the author-offset (neighing, as he presented - everything in rainbow armor with peaks by an edge) laughing
    1. DVR
      -5
      22 June 2020 19: 22
      to the author-offset (neighing, as he presented - everything in rainbow armor with peaks by an edge)

      Do you think that these are not links of the same chain together with liberals and pseudo-patriots? Do not face the whole, and not feed from one feeder? The flag of pedestrians and others on the symbol of the Motherland and the symbol of Victory - is this normal for you? Does this act of dehumanization amuse you? Then I have no questions.


      Laugh, rejoice still :)
      1. 0
        23 June 2020 16: 29
        Quote: DVR
        Laugh, rejoice still :)

        well, unlike you, I don’t see rainbow flags around me (neither in the city, nor in the house), our people live so simple that they burned an eatery where the rainbow gathered. his idea of ​​the motherland, and if Ridna Nenka - Ukraine with a rainbow flag means clearly whom this motherland has bred.
        1. DVR
          +2
          24 June 2020 08: 11
          Well, unlike you, I don’t see rainbow flags around me (neither in the city, nor in the house), our people live so simple that they burned an eatery where the rainbow gathered.

          Can you justify your "well, unlike you"? I said this somewhere? Fortunately, we do not have them, but you so want it, because it amuses you. Or being rude - your only argument in the discussion, there are no others. To be honest, I don’t support the burning of eateries where the "rainbows" gather. The main thing is that homosexuals do not promote (propagandize) themselves, do not impose their perversions on children, which, fortunately, we have taken care of at the legislative level.
          You were amused by the statement of the author of the article: "We will simply be wiped off the face of the earth by legions of LGBT people, liberals and even who knows who else ...", you neigh.
          And in Ukraine, too, something like that 6 years ago, before the well-known events, was impossible, and no one could have imagined about it. There people are 90% the same as we are, except for the "ragul zapadensky". Hence the legitimate questions that I asked you:
          Do you think that these are not links of the same chain together with liberals and pseudo-patriots? Do not face the whole, and not feed from one feeder?

          Why is this possible after the Maidan, and no one is responsible for these blasphemous performances? The answer is obvious - these "legions of homosexuals" and "activists" are from the same team. And many of them belong to both categories at the same time. Here is an example of a valiant pederast legionnaire, commander of the Shakhtersk battalion (uncensored):
          https://vk.com/video101241168_170209535
          So to the question of the author of the article:
          Explain to us then that the legions of buggers are already on the border?

          it is safe to say that yes, the legions of "these very" really stand on the borders.
          Kiev has its own idea of ​​the homeland, and if Ridna is Nenka, Ukraine with a rainbow flag clearly means whom this homeland has bred.

          You are ready to mix Ukraine and its inhabitants with shit, just to get away from discussing the essence of things. For the sake of a "catch phrase" you write nonsense, but yourself, it is clear that from these same.
          If you have such an understanding of what is happening, then there’s nothing to talk about with you.
          1. +1
            25 June 2020 15: 17
            Quote: DVR
            Or being rude is your only argument in the discussion; there are no others.

            if
            I don’t see rainbow flags around me
            , then they do not scare me, I don’t believe in the "blue" legions on our border (not milons) for this to him

            Are you ready to mix Ukraine and its inhabitants with shit
            - I’m not ready, but someone climbed and the flag is not small and nobody interfered (the statue is high),
            except for the "ragul zapadensky".
            I strongly doubt that such an action will take place in Lviv.
            but themselves, it is clear that of these.
            .you are a big-eyed deductor - a proctologist (I sit high - I look far away)? a sex therapist, a deep connoisseur of human nature (about "being rude")? the text must be read correctly:
            I don’t see rainbow flags around me (neither in the city, nor in the house)
            and that’s why they don’t bother me, you probably see and bother me. If you turn to personalities, then carefully select the words - life will be calmer.
            1. DVR
              0
              26 June 2020 07: 32
              Quote: DVR Or being rude is your only argument in the discussion, there are no others.
              if I don’t see rainbow flags around me, then they don’t scare me, I don’t believe in the "blue" legions on our border (not milons) for this you are ready to mix Ukraine and its inhabitants with shit
              - not ready, but after all someone climbed and the flag is not small and no one interfered (the statue is tall), except for the "ragul zapadensky". I strongly doubt that such an action will work in Lviv. but themselves, it is clear that from these same. .you are a big-eyed deductor - a proctologist (I sit high - I look far away)? a sex therapist, a deep connoisseur of human nature (at the expense of "being rude")? the text must be read correctly: I do not see rainbow flags around me (neither in the city, nor in the house) and that's why they don't bother me, you probably see and stress you. if you go personal, then choose your words carefully - life will be calmer.

              Edik, you burst out, why this lexical diarrhea? Apparently, it happens involuntarily, "deductor" laughing
              1. 0
                26 June 2020 08: 39
                trolling is rather weak, if the "deductor" (deduction) is not clear. At the expense of the logo (the logo is always not arbitrary), then the text you quoted consists of a third of your quotes. afraid that
                these "legions of buggers
                will rush to your apartment hi
                1. DVR
                  +1
                  28 June 2020 12: 26
                  trolling is rather weak, if the "deductor" (deduction) is not clear. At the expense of the logo (the logo is always not arbitrary), then the text you quoted consists of a third of your quotes. afraid that

                  Well, yes, and you are a master of trolling :) On the topic of homosexuality - I am not interested, I do not know such authors.
                  1. 0
                    29 June 2020 08: 46
                    Quote: DVR
                    On the topic of homosexuality - I am not interested, I do not know such authors.

                    ignorance does not honor you.

                    William Howell Masters (December 27, 1915 - February 16, 2001) is an American gynecologist and sexologist, best known as a researcher of the human sexual cycle and senior in the duo of the scientists Masters - Johnson
                    Virginia Johnson (born February 11, 1925 - July 24, 2013) is an American sex scientist, best known as a researcher in the duo Masters - Johnson, who studied sexuality between 1960 and 1990.
                    1. DVR
                      +1
                      29 June 2020 09: 04
                      William Howell Masters (December 27, 1915 - February 16, 2001) is an American gynecologist and sexologist, best known as a researcher of the human sexual cycle and senior in the duo of the scientists Masters - Johnson
                      Virginia Johnson (born February 11, 1925 - July 24, 2013) is an American sex scientist, best known as a researcher in the duo Masters - Johnson, who studied sexuality between 1960 and 1990.

                      Ignorance of such characters is already considered ignorance? Well, maybe in your circles this is so, I'm not surprised. Enlighten further in the same spirit.
                      1. 0
                        30 June 2020 08: 32
                        Quote: DVR
                        Ignorance of such characters is already considered ignorance? Well, maybe in your circles this is so, I'm not surprised. Enlighten further in the same spirit.

                        in our circles it’s ignorance, I’ll definitely be enlightened,

                        and you continue to wait in the dugout for the attack of the "blue" division - do not oversleep, otherwise you will miss the "pratsivnyh".
                      2. DVR
                        +1
                        30 June 2020 12: 32
                        and you continue to wait in the dugout for the attack of the "blue" division - do not oversleep, otherwise you will miss the "pratsivnyh".

                        It is not necessary to climb into the dugout, but I also think it is unfounded to close our eyes to the tendencies so vehemently defended and promoted by our geopolitical "partners".
                        The discussion began against the backdrop of a pride marked in June, in honor of which two embassies in Moscow had already posted rainbow flags.
                        Representatives of the diplomatic missions of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States recognize the inherent dignity inherent in every human person, as enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, according to a published appeal by the Five Eye Partnership countries. Its authors urge the Russian government to fulfill its obligations to protect the rights of all citizens, including lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgender people and intersex people. The appeal emphasizes that any form of discrimination, including sexual orientation and gender identity, is completely unacceptable. The ambassadors recalled that human rights are universal and must be protected by law.

                        Already squeak, and yet the rights are in no way violated. And it’s normal for you when Western uncles teach us how to love Sodomites and others. There are huge political and financial resources behind LGBT people, and nothing beyond your commitment to the traditional values ​​of some of our elite, including GDP.
                        LGBT people - this is not only sodomites, the legalization of pedophilia, bestiality and other crap - a question in the near future in the West. In fact, and so everything is flourishing, only at the official level it is not fixed. It may happen that tomorrow, according to the laws of the Russian Federation, they will force you to love sodomites, and fine you for attacks on pedophiles, and you won’t do anything. Fortunately, so far the reverse trend. Feminism, LGBT, pseudo-organizations, Natsiks, liberals, juveniles, .. - links of one chain, which is used to destroy the traditional state and promote globalization. All are fed from one trough. The horses have already jumped - they are eating a full spoon with the whole palette. Only a fool or a person who supports it can overlook all this. And you can sleep and laugh, enlightened from certain circles.
                      3. 0
                        2 July 2020 08: 13
                        Quote: DVR
                        and do nothing


                        we’ll do it and no one will interfere.
                        two embassies in Moscow have already posted rainbow flags.

                        even taking into account the fact that the vote behind (amendments adopted) the territory of embassies is a sovereign territory (how can our constitution prohibit any flag from hanging in the territory of another state?)
                        legalization of pedophilia
                        Our pedophiles, as a rule, do not survive to trial, and if convicted, they do not live in the zone for a long time (what kind of legalization can we talk about?)
                      4. DVR
                        +1
                        2 July 2020 08: 36
                        we’ll do it and no one will interfere.

                        You won’t do anything if the elites want it. Absolutely. Sit behind bars, pay a fine - the maximum that will work out.
                        Not so long ago, even homosexuality was prosecuted in Europe and the USA. I briefly outlined today's picture for you. It all works differently. And what
                        while we do not have this in such numbers - this is the result of the position of the elite of the Russian Federation, as I said above. Globalists will win and everything will change quickly. Not immediately, but for 5-10 years. Various amendments to laws will allow public advertising, propaganda, education lessons at school, the third (fourth, etc.) gender in the passport, same-sex marriages will be fixed, incl. and in church, etc. All this is done in hundreds of directions. When planted from above, it is not possible to prevent this in the modern world. To organize the masses for resistance, we need a structure and leaders, and it is easiest to destroy leaders and a structure in modern society, the rest will scatter around their houses and sit quietly.
  24. +6
    22 June 2020 11: 54
    At the expense of fuel, just now, driving past a gas station, I thought about it, if I do not divide +3 rubles, then gasoline will be tightened.
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  26. +13
    22 June 2020 11: 56
    Quote: Boris55
    Just as our grandfathers defended our independence from the West, today we must defend the independence of our Motherland from the same West.

    .. Under whose direction? Those who sell the country's resources to the West and then take out the stolen loot there ??? Whose children and families have long lived again in the West in a real estate bought there ?? Isn’t it funny for yourself?
  27. -9
    22 June 2020 11: 57
    Better Putin than "Susanin". All the more so than an American prostitute.
  28. -6
    22 June 2020 11: 57
    Quote: mark1
    Run, Klingon, run ... (and never come back!)

    why should I run, I don’t live in Russia anyway. my homeland is planet Earth, but the fact that intelligent monkeys decided it somehow there in a special way to share is another question laughing
  29. -10
    22 June 2020 12: 09
    Have you ever wondered how Maidans and civil wars arise? But they arise very simply: small groups of radicals (democrats!) Frantically attack anyone who expresses an idea different from the thought of their instigators-provocateurs. Then the groups of these fierce ones grow and they terrorize everyone. Under the most democratic slogans! Something similar happens today in VO comments, where instead of discussion, pressure and terror are used for those who disagree, and instead of Bandera bits, dislikes are used.

    As regards this article and, in general, bacchanalia around amendments to the Constitution of Russia, which radically change it, some amendments will VERY MUCH. But good reasons were found for THEIR cancellation: the cancellation of the nullification of Putin’s presidency and a thorough discussion. And there you can bury them, having chatted ...

    The article, its hyperbole, swearing and dashing and tricky comparisons, in the style of Roman. Some even look like slander. What his adherents really like. But some pearls are very funny. "... it's not that simple." Does it look like anything? Yes, this is a wonderful excerpt from the letters of the "daughters of the Crimean officers"! "... double standards ..." Do you have double standards? It seems that not even doubles, but triples! And why declare the publication by the President of the results of a sociological study of ITS fiction? As for the haste, it comes from Putin's desire to rapidly reform the country and Russian society. What do you strenuously HINDER and slow down, pretending that you do not believe in his sincerity, the amendments WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING: your JOINT task with your Western "friends" is to disrupt the amendment of the Constitution by any means and ways. What are you doing. I'm not talking about 30 pieces of silver, because I have no facts. But I admit that you are not doing this unselfishly.

    And the snapshot in the title is valid: here you have the imperial flag, here the European Union, here Ukrainian. Only the portraits of Bandera and Vlasov are lacking! And what kind and enlightened faces of democratic demonstrators! VERY similar to Ukrainian Maidanites! If not for the Russian flags, then you can easily confuse.

    As for me, I'm not at all a reckless messenger. I have VERY many questions for Vladimir Vladimirovich both on the Ukrainian question, and on domestic politics, and the ambiguous attitude to the Soviet period in the history of Russia and its leaders. But I also know well that there are NO ideal people, the same Peter and Catherine the Great, Lenin and Stalin also made mistakes. But on TODAY, Putin is Russia's best leader.
    1. +6
      22 June 2020 12: 42
      Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
      But on TODAY, Putin is Russia's best leader.

      Do not offend the leader, set the time frame wider.
      1. -8
        22 June 2020 12: 56
        Perhaps I did not quite accurately put it. I do not consider Putin to be the best leader of Russia in history, all who stand before him are better than him. But for today's Russia - it is so far the best. I really want to hope that the next one will not be so loyal to the Alekseevs, Kolchaks, Mannerheim, Solzhenitsyn and other sheluponi, as the GDP will be just as smart. But today, Putin is the best. And he has considerable merits to Russia. First of all, that he prevented her collapse and returned to its rightful place. For all its other flaws. NO perfect people. If they were, then they would have wings and were called angels.

        I really want to hope that he will not use the amendment and will leave within the prescribed time. But this is if there will be a worthy successor.
        1. -10
          22 June 2020 18: 06
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          I do not consider Putin to be the best leader of Russia in history, all who stand before him are better than him. But for today's Russia - it is so far the best. I really want to hope that the next one will not be so loyal to the Alekseevs, Kolchaks, Mannerheim, Solzhenitsyn and other sheluponi,

          I join and many here think the same thing, but are afraid .. hi
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          I really want to hope that he will not use the amendment and will leave within the prescribed time. But this is if there will be a worthy successor.

          I think it will be so .. Surprises he can do unexpected ...
          Well, now the massacre will begin ..Fas !!!!! laughing
        2. -4
          22 June 2020 21: 58
          "Your Majesty, I will tell you in an old man's way (and do with me what you want): You are not an outstanding king of our time, you, you are the greatest!"
    2. +11
      22 June 2020 13: 34
      it is from Putin’s desire to accelerate reform of the country and Russian society.
      ... And who prevented him from rapidly reforming the country over the past 20 years ... Name it exactly ..
      1. -11
        22 June 2020 15: 26
        I believe many, many. Including you, your colleagues on this site.
        1. +13
          22 June 2020 15: 47
          Explain how ...? laughing As I interfered personally and my associates for 20 years prevented this and more in detail .... laughing And then we do not know .... laughing
          1. -8
            22 June 2020 17: 58
            Quote: parusnik
            Explain how ...? laughing As I interfered personally and my associates for 20 years prevented this and more in detail .... laughing And then we do not know .... laughing

            Eeee ... So you (or your companions) still turn out to be a complaining-trickster, using dirty methods of argument - complained and banned my answer! But in him there was NO abuse or insults. Know the point I please! Well, how can I argue with you if you are dishonest? And you have an external gloss. Although the complexity is rotten!
            1. -11
              22 June 2020 18: 03
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              Eeee ... So you (or your associates) still turn out to be a complaining trick, using dirty methods of argument - they banned my answer. Know the point I please! Well, how can I argue with you if you are dishonest? And you have an external gloss. Although the complexity is rotten!

              Bold comment Vladimir! hi Here is their whole gang and everything with avatars of Lenin, red flags, etc. Substitution of values, all according to Dulles ..
            2. DVR
              -5
              22 June 2020 19: 29
              Do not take it close, otherwise they will not succeed at all :) You are right - you hit the spot. They have one answer - a minus and a complaint :) I am humorous, let them puff, all the same, all their efforts are in vain. For a couple of weeks of quarantine, while I was here often, I understood this "kitchen" quite well.
              1. -2
                22 June 2020 22: 41
                Quote: DVR
                I have a sense of humor

                Chizhik-fawn, where have you been?
                I drank vodka on the Fontanka ...
                I drank a glass, drank two ....
                Quote: DVR
                You are right - hit the nail on the head.

                Did Vital get to the point? However... wink
                1. DVR
                  +2
                  22 June 2020 22: 50
                  Chizhik-fawn, where have you been?
                  I drank vodka on the Fontanka ...
                  I drank a glass, drank two ....

                  Here are the details of your pastime, I definitely do not care.
                  1. -1
                    22 June 2020 22: 58
                    Quote: DVR
                    Here are the details of your pastime, I definitely do not care.

                    Yes? But the native police are very interested. I had to wear a mask. Why would that be?
                    1. DVR
                      +4
                      22 June 2020 23: 20
                      Yes? But the native police are very interested. I had to wear a mask. Why would that be?

                      When he considered that the police (2005) were wrong, he sued them. In a small town, where the head of the ROVD is the owner, among others, it is very difficult. He won 2 trials, was his own lawyer. The 2nd court - it is understandable - is a consequence of the first, the guys literally hunted, and they warned me about it. And I don’t want to say what they were carrying at the trial. Could and "stir up" something. I don’t deny the luck factor, the judge was caught - a normal man, a former Ministry of Internal Affairs personnel officer, by the way. If you think the police have broken the law, try it. There are many more possibilities now.
                      1. -1
                        22 June 2020 23: 27
                        Quote: DVR
                        You think that the police broke the law, try it.

                        Not for me. Language is not much to talk.
                      2. DVR
                        +1
                        22 June 2020 23: 33
                        Not for me. Language is not much to talk.

                        Duck do not talk, do the thing. And as I see you here - only in language and much.
                      3. 0
                        23 June 2020 02: 38
                        Quote: DVR
                        do the thing. And as I see you here - only in language and much.

                        I do business almost every day. Yes, and here, I do not chat with my tongue, but press the buttons.
        2. 0
          23 June 2020 00: 01
          Well, where were you and your associates?
          And why didn’t you help the GDP with its reforms?
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  30. +11
    22 June 2020 12: 11
    To play homophobia to promote the president is yes, really powerful and modern ...
    This constitutional theme has already thoroughly seized up, as soon as all this would end and the result of the "popular will" would be demonstrated, so that there would be something to laugh at. How much will they draw? 73 to 27? 69 to 31? Somewhere in this range. Largely because the mass of opponents are not going to vote.
    At one time I was an observer ~ in 2012 - in the elections to the state. Duma and presidential (from the Communist Party) - and if before that I had some illusions about the "democratic procedure", then after most of them were dispelled. As a methodical and meticulous person, I sat all day and counted the number of people who dropped ballots into ballot box 1 and box 2. Less was lowered into urn 2 because it was further away (sic!). And by 20:00 I had on hand specific numbers - how many in which bin. And so, imagine my surprise when the ballot box was simply changed, in about 5 minutes, while the entire election commission was celebrating, and the chairwoman was making good-natured speeches for Russian democracy. And if the figures for urn 1 converged almost completely, then in urn 2 there was a frank lime tree, three times more than it should have been neatly and twice folded "for EdRo".
    Without any "carousels" - beautiful and graceful, just replaced the trash can. I even saw the hero of the occasion at the very beginning of the day, when they gave us notebook pens in the back room - she stood neatly under one of the tables, waiting in the wings. Unfortunately, I did not betray this value then ..
    Why am I all this? Oh yeah, 7-day voting is a fake, compared to how you can falsify all of this in 5 minutes, on any of these 7 days. Already for this reason, it seems to me that waving the claws this time is stupid. Social polls have long and fairly accurately calculated the future turnout of supporters / opponents / indifferent, and in the range of this "+" a certain value is already "ready" for the future result. According to exactly the same scheme of "2012", which I once observed.
    1. -3
      22 June 2020 12: 48
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Play homophobia

      This is not the case at all. Any "phobias" are severely condemned. Assess the situation carefully. There is reason to believe that the essence is in the creation of a new management system and this issue has already been resolved.
      1. +5
        22 June 2020 13: 06
        But what is the joke to create a new management system in the conditions of authoritarianism on the one hand, and full control by the party of power of all branches of power on the other hand?
        The system is already maximally tailored to fulfill orders "from above" - ​​to embody any, even the most stupid or indistinct, initiatives from above. A year that way since 2004 has been sharpened (and since 2008 it has been completely so). So it’s not entirely clear to me what is the point of some kind of structural changes within such a system, if the same amendments show that we still have the same authoritarianism and de facto one-party system.
        1. 0
          23 June 2020 11: 57
          The "joke" in what is happening in the United States. Is the obvious connection not visible?
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    3. +6
      22 June 2020 13: 09
      I have a friend of the election commission, I already got the task, to ensure the turnout at the plebiscite in 60%
      1. +1
        22 June 2020 13: 35
        I have a friend of the election commission .... I missed the word: chairman ....
    4. -1
      23 June 2020 15: 01
      I support, I myself know acquaintances who were forced to do stuffing or edit forms like "washing machine handles", a relative was an observer in the elections and there were also changes in protocols. Like paper, do not get dirty if the system has created and filtered out such people for whom it is the norm to engage in falsifications, they will continue. People are very annoyed, angry after the quarantine, trust in the president and the government has dropped, so people, even without reading the amendments, are extremely negative, and the people who defend the amendments are also associated with the government and are also perceived negatively.
      1. 0
        23 June 2020 17: 27
        It is understandable - they were waiting for actions and results, but everyone was given a ride with words and a rather clumsy "little move" with Tereshkova, the Federation Council and the Constitutional Court. 4 years before the elections - and all this is already hinting that in 4 years it will not be able to cope - neither find a successor, nor get out of the crisis - in 4 years the GDP will be in power for a FOURTH CENTURY. How much more is needed, how much?) There was no world war, no nuclear bombs fell on the head, no asteroid, the climate only warmed, oil was expensive most of the time, most of the time it was calm on the borders. And what was this time spent on? I have not seen a political struggle since 2004 - for 16 years already, the GDP has not been interfered with by its internal "plan", but the guarantor tells us - time is needed, guys! At least half of the elapsed time (10 years). And we like to believe - already without sweet promises and rainbow pictures, cartoons with rockets and lasers and hot speeches. I personally don't understand why this is needed. I don't see any constructiveness in this.
  31. -6
    22 June 2020 12: 57
    Quote: kotvov
    the author worked for the money. ,,
    And here you are, no. No arguments, no facts, solid lines from the training manual.

    If I were on a salary, I would have laid out the facts)) and you turn on the brain, maybe you will understand simple truths))
  32. +6
    22 June 2020 13: 07
    I have already written how the amendments are adopted in detail. Now, briefly. Amendments to the Constitution are adopted by the Federal Assembly, approved by the assemblies of the constituent entities of the Federation. There is no national referendum, plebiscite on this matter, neither the Constitution nor the Federal Law. Only the Constitution, as the main law, adopted in a popular referendum, which happened in 1993. A simple example, when an amendment on the extension of the presidential term was adopted, the people were not invited to a referendum or plebiscite. Disregard. You vote for the amendments. They have already been adopted according to the legislation. You vote against the amendments. They have already been adopted according to the legislation. You won't vote. They have already been adopted according to the legislation. If many decided that these amendments will decide something for the people, they will not decide anything .. For those in power, they decide a lot. For this, they were adopted ... After the so-called plebiscite, let's see how the collective farm "Dawn" will accelerate ...
    1. -1
      22 June 2020 21: 45
      The Constitution with the Amendments is already on the shelves of bookstores. There are no prospects: if you don’t go "like a vote", they will write down the consonants, if you vote against it, the amendments have already been adopted! Eh, Saltykov-Shchedrin lived at the wrong time ...
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  34. +4
    22 June 2020 13: 36
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote: blackice
    Let me ask you what betrays a liberal in a person?

    Here is a photo:



    Well, just a wonderful photo! They, the collapsed union, who wrote the current Constitution under the dictation of the State Department, do not want to change anything. Everything suits them. What about us? Do we still want to see Chubaisik and Gaidar men in power?
    And if after the adoption of the amendments "Chubaisik" still remains in power, put a bullet in your "wise" forehead? winked wassat
  35. +6
    22 June 2020 13: 39
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    At one time, Comrade Stalin walked in an embrace with Comrade Trotsky. What does it mean? But that doesn’t mean anything.

    Why don’t you continue with what, or how Trotsky finished ...? sad lol wassat tongue
    1. -1
      22 June 2020 14: 03
      Berezovsky also recklessly wrapped his neck in a scarf. And Nemtsov walked along the bridge. Who knows how Sobchak’s fate would have been if he hadn’t seized him. They do not like our associates.
  36. 0
    22 June 2020 13: 51
    You might think that if the amendments are not accepted, the fuel will not be 75-100
  37. -6
    22 June 2020 13: 51
    Dear author, you have raised 3 questions, I will try to answer them so that the next time you do not waste time.
    Voting each amendment separately is difficult (is it possible?) Is feasible from a technical point of view. Voting by clusters is also voting “in bulk”. The people above in the comments have already bitten over where the buggers should be included.
    You almost answered the second question yourself. You cited a series of statements by Putin about the constitution. You should have given his statement about the need to change it in the framework of the message to the Assembly. Everything is clearly said there.
    Regarding the rush ... soon there will be six months from the date of the announcement of amendments. Where is the rush?
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  39. -7
    22 June 2020 14: 09
    Quote: WertGan
    I wonder how much Roman was paid for this "article"?

    How can you such blasphemy, the opposition is entirely silver-free.
  40. +1
    22 June 2020 14: 09
    Guys, I don’t want to get into your internal affairs, we have enough of our own problems here, but one author is already cursing an article for amendments to the Constitution, and the other says that it’s not bad at all ... Where is the consensus in this case?
    1. +12
      22 June 2020 15: 43
      Quote: Captan78
      Where is the consensus in this case?

      So the amendments as they were invented in order to destroy the consensus in society.
      You probably heard that in 2014, the Crimean consensus arose in Russian society. They talked and wrote a lot about this. And then they say this consensus began to erode over time. So nothing like that - the Crimean consensus did not begin to erode; in 2018, it began to be replaced by another consensus - the Pension Reform. And if the Crimean consensus was pro-government and thereby completely satisfied the authorities, the new consensus is anti-government. And so they are trying to shut up a new consensus. Putin’s fall in ratings is all but denied, they are trying to call the connection of this fall with pension reform inconsequential. Only occasionally is it published that 80-90% of the people are against reform.
      That's to break the pension reform consensus, and a way has been devised how to vote for confidence in Putin, excluding the issue of raising the retirement age from the agenda. This completely unnecessary vote for adoption of amendments requires just to be able to say: Yes, people do not approve of pension reform, but, despite this, they still trust Putin.
      This requires that the results of the voting be close to the results of the presidential elections in 2018. And the number of "For", and the turnout! And then it will be possible to say: You see, both before and after the pension reform the people are equally for Putin.
  41. -6
    22 June 2020 14: 11
    Quote: Captan78
    Guys, I don’t want to get into your internal affairs, we have enough of our own problems here, but one author is already cursing an article for amendments to the Constitution, and the other says that it’s not bad at all ... Where is the consensus in this case?

    You see the slogan, they need to change their power, whatever happens in the country. And the rest of the population on this fuss, as amended, is violet.
    1. -8
      22 June 2020 16: 03
      And to whom to exchange? I don’t mention Putin. I’m not going to mention Putin. I’m offended. Chubais-Zyuganov-Zhirinovsky-Mironov- all former members of the CPSU, Platoshkin-Grudinin, too .. Remained, it would seem, Navalny ... but he is a product of that system , which was created by the above, you know, Bulk remains of the eaten product ... And ..? ...
  42. +6
    22 June 2020 14: 17
    For centuries I agree with Skomarokhov, with part of what he writes.
  43. -8
    22 June 2020 14: 24
    Explain to us then that the legions of buggers are already on the border? Ready for all of us ...?

    Actually, yes. Many NGOs and grant-eaters have been fruitfully digging for this topic for a long time and, unfortunately,. The attempts to push through juvenile justice from the same opera are hardly restrained by conscious society.
    And about the inviolability of the Constitution, well, excuse me, Roman, but I don’t consider the Constitution of 93, or whatever the date is clear to everyone, written under the dictation of star-striped ones.
    So it's better that way than nothing at all.
    PS Well, in the XNUMXs, Putin was allowed much less independence than now. It's all about the "Art of War" by Sun Tzu. Say what the enemy wants to hear while you are weak.
  44. +17
    22 June 2020 14: 25
    Quote: Boris55
    Have you ever received a salary with office paper for a Snowflake printer?
    If not, then you don’t understand.


    Well, I got syringes at the factory. So what? Now all your life is crying "if only there was no war"? Enough. I would like EVERYONE to live well in Russia, not just Rotenbergs, Peskovy and others.
    1. -1
      22 June 2020 15: 15
      Quote: Banshee
      I want everyone in Russia to live well

      This has never been and never will be in the history of the species under the ironic name of Homo Sapiens. Whatever Russia.
      This species should rather be called Homo Lupus, but it is, purely out loud thoughts.
    2. -2
      23 June 2020 11: 39
      I fully support you, Roman. I hope you keep the local colorful comments so that in a year you can write another article and take stock.
  45. -4
    22 June 2020 14: 56
    Roman, please answer me: Suppose amendments to the Constitution are not accepted, and Putin leaves after 2024 and one of the glorious liberal (democratic) cohorts wins the election. After how long will same-sex marriages be allowed, their adoption of children, teaching in tolerance schools, will the islands of the Kuril ridge be transferred to Japan and then the Kuril Islands themselves? And further down the list of amendments. How long after this the Northern Caucasus flames, to which all kinds of pederastic dances are alien, and where is ISIS and other Wahhabis gushing? After what time does fuel, gas for the population, food, utilities fall in price to the level of pre-crisis 1988 or 2008 (of your choice)?
    Would you like to cover these issues as exhaustively as you did in the last, penultimate and previous articles, but in a positive way? Very many (the vast majority of respondents to this resource) will read your article with great interest.
    1. +4
      22 June 2020 17: 20
      I'm not Roman, but I will answer
      Suppose amendments to the Constitution are not accepted, and Putin leaves after 2024 and one of the glorious liberal (democratic) cohorts wins the election. After how long will same-sex marriages be allowed, their adoption of children, teaching in tolerance schools, will the islands of the Kuril ridge be transferred to Japan and then the Kuril Islands themselves? And further down the list of amendments. How long after this the Northern Caucasus flames, to which all kinds of pederastic dances are alien, and where is ISIS and other Wahhabis gushing? After what time does fuel, gas for the population, food, utilities fall in price to the level of pre-crisis 1988 or 2008 (of your choice)?

      1. Why does it benefit from a liberal / democratic cohort? As polls show, most Russians do not support liberal universal values.
      2. Suppose amendments to the Constitution have been passed, but in 2024 liberals came to power. They declare that Putin was a villain, a tyrant, a dictator (he ate babies), so all his achievements must be nullified. Everything is written in the Constitution? - Yes, a new one will be!
      The very same hysteria around the Constitution, as noted above, reminds me of the 90s (to me personally, "Manipulation of Consciousness") - "faster, faster, today, otherwise it will be too late tomorrow." Why late? Why are all the amendments in bulk. Why is the whole situation in the spirit of "either the Constitution or the Arctic fox of Russia"? There is no third option for some reason
  46. +1
    22 June 2020 15: 20
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Berezovsky also recklessly wrapped his neck in a scarf. And Nemtsov walked along the bridge. Who knows how Sobchak’s fate would have been if he hadn’t seized him. They do not like our associates.

    Oh how ?! Well are you about your idol so ??? belay lol wassat good
  47. +6
    22 June 2020 15: 37
    What to expect? I would advise you to pick up the deposits. And then we already went through it. Yes, and talk about it went not so long ago (at least about the transfer of currency into rubles).
  48. 0
    22 June 2020 15: 41
    Quote: WertGan


    But I’m also interested in how much ... I mean: for how much.
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  50. +7
    22 June 2020 16: 06
    I agree with what Roman wrote, the feeling is as if we are "on the verge of a grandiose nix" laughing
    Power in a hurry, urges, does not allow to think.
    Especially with such vague amendments, atas, I’m not a lawyer and I don’t understand from the word AT ALL, for example, who is God? This is a transcendental essence that cannot be understood by the human consciousness, but for some reason this will be enshrined in the constitution. That is, something spiritual and incomprehensible was adapted to the material - it nobly amuses laughing
    Yes, pensions, education, medicine, industry - this is undoubtedly important and necessary, and on the lips of many, and "I am of the same opinion" (c)
    I am personally scared (terrified) by the population growth over these "happy" 20 years. From year to year, the growth was negative (these figures are on the network), and for some reason it is not customary to talk about this, only the pits are blamed (not those on the road, but which are demographic), the indigenous population is slowly but surely replaced by various migrants , (especially against the background of degrading education), therefore, the IMHO numbers do not change much, what's the difference, on paper the numbers have no affiliation, and sitting on a high bell tower cannot be distinguished at all. So who is to blame for this, who will be held responsible? Oh yes - no one, as usual it is itself ... And now we will vote together on the infallibility and non-jurisdiction of the president, and in general everything will be in openwork
    hi
    1. +1
      22 June 2020 21: 54
      Power in a hurry, urges, does not allow to think.

      When gypsies or other cheaters on the street lure money, they also act quickly: in a hurry, pushing and not letting you think
  51. +8
    22 June 2020 16: 06
    Yes, why are you all attached to this “nullification”? After the “pension reform,” V. Putin is already a “political corpse.” I have, however, a suspicion that he has not been alive for quite some time, well, or is so sick that he doesn’t care about Ilyich... So, if anyone runs for election, it will be a double, a “talking head”, so to speak, voicing the decisions of the oligarchs.
    Thus, this notorious “zeroing” is the same screen as this whole “social package”, “God”, “family protection”, a ban on officials having anything there, etc., the vast majority of which have long been prescribed in federal laws, and if they are shoved into the Constitution, absolutely nothing will change.
    But what these amendments really mask:
    1) The President receives additional powers to dissolve the State Duma.
    2) The President now, through the Federation Council, appoints all leading prosecutors and judges in the country. Let me remind you that the Federation Council in our state is not elected by direct voting of citizens, but is, in fact, appointed by officials.
    3) The President appoints judges of the Constitutional and Supreme Courts, and now also has the right to remove them.
    4) The President now has the right to check, through the Constitutional Court, whose judges he himself appoints and now has the right to dismiss, any law for “constitutionality”.
    5) The President now exercises general leadership of the government of the Russian Federation. Putin’s explanation that the Duma now does not coordinate, but approves, the composition of the government is simply a play on words, since the candidates for the prime minister and individual ministers are also chosen by the president. It turns out from Putin’s words that he cannot refuse to appoint a person whom he chose himself.
    It turns out that the president concentrates in his hands absolutely all power in the country: executive, legislative and judicial. Considering that many new powers involve the Federation Council, which is appointed by officials, it turns out that any subsequent “president” receives unlimited power, relying on the class of officials - that is, after the adoption of the amendments, a pro-fascist dictatorship awaits us (and this is the people who, at the cost incredible efforts and sacrifices defeated fascism in 'XNUMX).
  52. +1
    22 June 2020 16: 08
    Quote: parusnik
    After the so-called plebiscite, we’ll see how the “collective farm Rassvet” will “accelerate”...

    But I would be more interested in knowing the vector of this acceleration....
  53. -3
    22 June 2020 16: 30
    Now, why such voting deadlines?
    Yes, because the authorities are trying to exclude the elderly population from voting, which traditionally votes for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, which means they will vote against the amendments. Allegedly, they will be afraid to go to the site in the midst of an epidemic that is killing off the elderly.
    For this purpose, mass strikes of election commissions were also promoted with the menacing slogan: “We don’t want to be murderers!”
    To do this, on all public Internet platforms they are mass throwing out such ideas as: “the authorities need mass participation (no one cares about quorum for a long time - learn the laws); everything will be rigged anyway (yes, where will they get so many people for this? - the biggest problem for every satrap in all centuries is dedicated, intelligent cadres) - the simplest thing is to put a tick on the ballot for the one who did not come, and put this ballot in the ballot box (but anyone is smart enough for this); this is useless ( Why then is this voting? The argument that Putin just wanted it that way is childish babble); there are even those who write that “it’s boring and not interesting.”
    Thus, the authorities are trying to repeat the phenomenon of the last elections, when the majority of those who were “FOR” came to the polling stations and voted, and two-thirds of those who were “AGAINST” stayed at home.
  54. -6
    22 June 2020 16: 51
    You guys are sick with hatred. There are very few of you, it makes you angry and you are already foaming at the mouth. Get treatment...
  55. +3
    22 June 2020 17: 13
    This government has long lost trust (in fact, I don’t trust any government at all). The whole family will vote against it. I don’t want any resets or a lifelong prisoner. Nothing good will happen for the people, just as it never happened
  56. +3
    22 June 2020 17: 27
    Without carrying out certain reforms, they will continue to mark time!
    1. -1
      23 June 2020 00: 55
      Yes, they have gone crazy with their reforms! Well, they can’t work effectively! Just cut through the loot.
  57. +1
    22 June 2020 17: 42
    Where are we rushing?! - To the dead end of capitalism!!
  58. +3
    22 June 2020 17: 46
    The power has completely gone off the rails! What is Volodin’s statement worth - “after Putin there will be only Putin”, Well, just a pharaoh and company!
  59. -4
    22 June 2020 18: 07
    Yes, you can vote for each letter of the amendment separately.
    Well, why not?
    You can eventually combine the letters into syllables and vote for each syllable.
    Or, in the end, vote for every word in the amendments.
    Okay, well convinced - let's vote for the phrases.
    However, it is possible for a separate offer.
    Then at least for each amendment separately.
    The amendments can be combined into blocks.
    ---
    Ultimately the question goes like this:
    "Do you approve of changes to the Constitution of the Russian Federation?"
    ----
    What the hell are the blocks?
    All sorts of blocs, all sorts of individual amendments are invented just for the sake of disrupting the vote.
    ---
    And then the UN General Assembly will adopt a resolution by a simple majority that the USSR is guilty of unleashing WWII, and given that the current version of the Constitution recognizes the priority of international norms and principles over the internal laws of Russia, anything will be imposed on us. We will not comply, and we will be accused of destroying international norms and our own Constitution.
    Those. The UN will adopt resolutions accusing Russia, and we will be legally obliged to admit this guilt.
    ---
    This is the price of trolling about voting for a separate amendment or for separate blocks
    ---
    Although there is a connection between the blocks and failure to accept one block will entail the incapacity of the accepted block.
    ---
    Calls for separate voting are a measure to disrupt the voting, with all the ensuing consequences.
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    1. -1
      22 June 2020 22: 01
      It already sounds like the whole 20 years have been getting worse and worse every year.

      It’s worse, there are now 20 million beggars in the country and their number is growing. Or is this better in your opinion?
      1. +3
        23 June 2020 04: 18
        It is very important in this discussion to know the age of your opponent. Seriously, I have already noted many times that those who were then between five and zero were “stoking” against them. We’ll definitely talk about the 20 million beggars if it doesn’t bother you. But now I have a big request. How old are you? I'm 45.
      2. +3
        23 June 2020 09: 26
        Never mind that most of these “beggars” are only on paper. That in their orderly ranks there are people hiding their income, often quite large: self-employed, rentiers, freelancers of all stripes
  61. +1
    22 June 2020 19: 00
    Why wasn’t there such a buzz in ’96 as there is now? Everything was fine then? And now certain people have become agitated
    1. -2
      22 June 2020 19: 51
      Quote: YasonDinAlt
      Why wasn’t there such a buzz in ’96 as there is now? Everything was fine then? And now certain people have become agitated

      They are afraid that everyone will take away their loot.. Putin dispersed the seven bankers, but many remained and are shaking.. negative
    2. +2
      22 June 2020 22: 12
      Quote: YasonDinAlt
      Why wasn’t there such a buzz in ’96 as there is now? Everything was fine then? And now certain people have become agitated

      People hoped that they would also be allowed to earn money. Most were not given. End of illusions
      1. +1
        23 June 2020 04: 23
        Who didn't? Even a little funny. It has become harder to steal; there is almost no way to avoid paying taxes. The resource of crime has fallen in comparison with that period. Yes here. But all the “nuances” can be understood without reading incriminating articles from alternative history, but either by reasoning coldly or by taking part. And it is necessary to compare with variants of proposals around the world. Especially in terms of taxes and income. For he learns from his own people, and a smart man learns from strangers.
  62. LCA
    -2
    22 June 2020 19: 20
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp6mr9I46Pk
    Why Putin is hiding the real reason for NULLING/CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION
    20 Jun. 2020
    1. +1
      23 June 2020 04: 29
      Why should he hide? Most people understand this way. It is proposed to consolidate the “good beginnings” so that they are not forgotten. Make it a new method and add it to the referendum. Legitimize "promulgation" to create a barrier to counter-change. For your loved one, the opportunity to realize your plan if domestic and foreign policy does not change. Our existing elites and those who aim to go there cannot yet offer at least something in favor of the state. In case of leaving, you will only see a grandiose fuss of tarring the gates, robbery and lustration. So far everything you can expect.
    2. -3
      23 June 2020 07: 29
      Quote: LCA
      Why Putin is hiding the real reason for NULLING/CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION

      This... This bad man from the video casually says: It doesn’t matter that Putin signed the law on the retirement age. He, of course, really wants people to not care. But this is very important to people. And to listen to scoundrels and scoundrels like Evgeniy Fedorov and this bad man with the video - you need to have no brains at all.
  63. +2
    22 June 2020 20: 24
    paul3390 Today, 11:53 am NEW

    Well - the last time the guarantor was trusted, he immediately dropped a whole generation below the baseboard, having arranged a completely cannibalistic pension-type reform .. And since he needed it again - we can assume that another robbery of epic proportions is planned ...
    Under the many-voiced calls and howls about urgency and necessity, the “little Overton window” opened slightly.

    Russia is facing a new pension reform. Otherwise there will be no payments
    In 2024-2025, the government in the Russian Federation will have to reform the pension savings system, since in another 10 years it will be impossible to provide payments to all pensioners. This forecast was given by Dmitry Alexandrov, an expert on non-state pension funds (NPF), in a conversation with URA.RU.
    “In 2034 we will have a very strong demographic failure. If the economy develops strongly and quickly, then we will be able to “throw in” money. If we take an existing economy with little growth, that is, a relatively prosperous situation, then the Pension Fund will not be able to fulfill its obligations. We will have to come up with something so that people can feed themselves,” he explained. The expert noted that these issues will need to be resolved in 2024-2025. According to him, already during this period the funds will find themselves in a difficult situation. “They will probably reform [the system] little by little,” Aleksandrov added.
    The expert expressed the opinion that, most likely, the system of voluntary pensions will be expanded. In this case, it will be necessary to involve not only large corporations, but also medium-sized businesses. Thus, part of the salary will be transferred either to a corporate pension account, or the company will enter into an agreement with a non-state pension fund, Aleksandrov explained. According to him, another development option could be an improved pension savings system.
    Now Russians who participate in corporate pension programs or have entered into NPF agreements will be able to start receiving payments five years earlier. Women will be able to receive payments from the age of 55, men - from the age of 60, Tsargrad reminds.
    That is, in 4-5 years we will be asked to “treat with understanding.” And if we take into account all the economic leaps and breakthroughs, as well as the professional management of “talented and energetic managers,” then perhaps this fateful decision will happen much sooner, that is, “tomorrow”
    Well, as icing on the cake, the latest news:
    The proposal for new payments to Russians in the amount of 10 thousand rubles from the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation is already being considered by the Government of the Russian Federation, Valery Ryazansky, first deputy chairman of the Russian Federation Council Committee on Social Policy, chairman of the presidium of the Union of Pensioners of Russia, told FBA Economy Today.
    1. +3
      23 June 2020 04: 33
      Phenomenal! Its competitor talks about the state system.
  64. +1
    22 June 2020 20: 57
    Here is the whole circle of acquaintances, relatives, etc. They respond only with swear words. Guess who (not Chubais).
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    2. +1
      23 June 2020 04: 33
      What about?
  65. -2
    22 June 2020 22: 10
    Quote: Malyuta
    Quote: Dalny V
    Why not declare it, if the other day another pocket sociological office published the results of a poll, according to which 70-80 percent of Russians trust the activities of the CEC? Such are the gullible Russians, panima

    Colleague, look what is happening at least on this site. After all, there are many adherents of the chief commander in chief who believe in his "talents", hpp, "intelligence" and "conscience".
    I do not know how to explain this phenomenon. request

    It's called the bourgeoisie
    1. +2
      23 June 2020 04: 37
      Do they really believe it? Some kind of Marvel with a single villain. Well, really, it's not funny anymore. Suggest any option? Not only with the person in office, but several postulates of a “different policy”?
  66. 0
    22 June 2020 22: 55
    It seems to me that the Author wants to discredit the “anti-correction” movement using the interline method: in the title photo there is a flag of Europe, a flag of Central Europe and [sort of] a portrait of Bandera on a stick. laughing
    1. -1
      23 June 2020 04: 14
      Quote: Motorist
      It seems to me that the Author wants to discredit the “anti-correction” movement using the interline method: in the title photo there is a flag of Europe, a flag of Central Europe and [sort of] a portrait of Bandera on a stick. laughing

      This is a march in memory of Boris Nemtsov (on a stick and banner, his portraits) on February 29, 2020.
      Moscow. Crossing the street Sretenka and Sretensky Boulevard. Marchers walk towards Sretensky Gate Square.
      1. 0
        23 June 2020 19: 07
        Quote: Freeman
        This is a march in memory of Boris Nemtsov

        I think the participants are still the same, which is why the Author did not understand their varieties. lol
        By the way, I changed the picture, but we have already revealed the agent of the ruling elite! soldier
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  69. -1
    23 June 2020 00: 48
    No matter how you twist the rope, you will still get caught in the thread!
    I’ll say it again, this entire vertical of power based on corporate interests will lead the country to the chaos of a civil war. And Putin will be remembered as a ruler who could, but did not, save Russia from such a development of events.
    1. +1
      23 June 2020 04: 40
      "Storm! There's a storm coming soon!" You are strange. And why are you embarrassed, why are you only fighting with Putin in words? So write and demand that the social bias in the country be reformatted.
      1. -2
        23 June 2020 12: 42
        Are you offering a letter from an insane hospital?
        President Putin once said that he is responsible for everything, so the questions and complaints come to him.
        Besides, he doesn’t give a damn about people’s opinions! He has his own vision of the country's development.
        And he talks about social economics all the time, but words are all he does.
        We demanded that pension reform not be carried out - he carried it out...
        1. +1
          23 June 2020 13: 57
          Here. That's the gravity of the debate here. Slogans are such a thing. It won’t be long before you refute them with slogans. And the format doesn’t allow for “distant” arguing. Doesn't consult with people? And what? The people showed him what the people wanted. But there wasn’t much discussion about “how” to achieve this. Then these “problems” themselves sounded fabulous. Save the country, fill the budget, start paying people.
          Here you go. I didn’t want to become Putin’s defender, but he turns out.
          And, in fact, imperially this is how it turns out. The common goal is socialism. The basic details include sufficient income, guarantees, housing, children... In short, the basics. But the implementation method is different. People don’t argue about methods because they are mostly unaware of the topic. 10% of the Internet asset, well, who not only goes to the housing and communal services website, but who now thinks that the fate of Russia is in their hands. But instead of counterproposals there is only swearing and sobbing. It's a pity. I would love to hear the options.
          1. Pension reform.
          2. Why other amendments are not needed, well, except for that one.
          3. Why relations with the West and Ukraine are more useful than Crimea. Statistics current and historical.
          4. Why is maintaining the state in Syria harmful?
          5. The negative side of introducing a tax on the self-employed. International experience.
          And so on, about a dozen points, another third. To depict the general situation. I wouldn’t mind listening to/reading smart people.
          1. -1
            23 June 2020 16: 44
            You have written a lot.
            I'll try to clarify my position.
            The first thing that bothered Putin was that Yeltsin led him by the hand.
            I understand everything is possible, I looked at his reign for a long time with attention. Yes, salaries, yes, the integrity of the country, well, that’s about it. He should have left after that and given the place to those more competent in terms of building the economy. But this is not the main thing.
            The main thing is that he did not voice the political vector of the country’s movement, what kind of country he was going to build.
            Instead, he stated that the people themselves chose capitalism and here I am definitely not their partner.
            All your questions are secondary.
            Why? Because people don’t know what the president is building.
            After all, all his steps from pension reform to Syria and the Constitution lie beyond the understanding of the people because the main goal is unclear.
            Behind the husk of the president’s statements, the true goal and, accordingly, the attitude of the people towards everything are not visible.
            As for the affairs themselves, the 10 and 20 steps of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation are a completely sane program taking into account the realities.
            However, Putin and his team do not hear or see anything alternative and do not want to know, trusting information from personal sources.
            Therefore, people can only express their attitude towards his politics and him personally, only on the Internet.
            1. +2
              23 June 2020 23: 12
              Fine. Let it be like a position. I certainly disagree. Especially in terms of ignorance of the general vector.
  70. -1
    23 June 2020 05: 53
    everything is spot on, I think so too - manipulations
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  71. -8
    23 June 2020 07: 36
    Quote: RESEARCHER
    Here on military review as in a democratic regime. Continuous dichotomy. There are only two choices: good or evil, to change the constitution or not to change, to zero the terms or not. But even in Russian tales in front of Ivan Tsarevich on the stone, more options are offered.
    From these positions it is necessary to approach the amendments. After the betrayal of the top of the CPSU and especially A.N. Yakovlev, I will never believe the one who lived, worked and studied abroad. Who likes their lifestyle, culture, habits and customs. Therefore, I will never look for healthy oils in the programs of Platoshkin, Grudinin, Navalny. Yes, you never know who else they will offer us. All new people have long been under the hood at the State Department. And just waiting in the wings.
    As one negative movie hero used to say: - now you can’t trust anyone ... I can (but I’m already talking to myself).

    Peter 1 lived abroad and studied, and radically changed Russia. Pulled me out of the swamp by my ears. And you insist on self-isolation of the country. Move to North Korea. You should like it there.
  72. +1
    23 June 2020 08: 30
    the laws don’t work, and the Constitution needs to be rewritten...
    1. -2
      23 June 2020 16: 55
      So that there is full ales.
      In general, I believe that serious issues cannot be resolved after a New Year’s binge. These are all toys and a manifestation of extreme disrespect for the people. The president doesn’t want to hear the people, but the year should be blown up and run headlong to vote for everything good for a limited circle?
      Let him add to the constitution that the salary of officials should not exceed the minimum wage, taking into account all bonuses, bonuses and freebies. Let it be written in the constitution that medicine should be free and education should be free.
      And you see, breakfast is free... And collect money for medicine as you want. Yes, many more useful things could be included in the constitution.
  73. -1
    23 June 2020 09: 00
    The conclusion from the article is very simple... Putin is a scam!!
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  75. -3
    23 June 2020 10: 49
    The country is confidently moving towards the new 37th, this is obvious. Another thing is that this 37th is perceived as a benefit for a fairly large number of patients.
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  77. +1
    23 June 2020 15: 47
    The author is too lazy to explain, especially since he likes to ignore facts. Khazin described all the fuss quite clearly. https://aftershock.news/?q=node/880201
  78. +2
    23 June 2020 16: 52
    There is still a lot of time until the age of 24, when the powers of the president end. We still have to live until then. The author of this article does not take into account the main thing: this is a change in the Laws. We have a lot of Laws that have been riveted by figures of all stripes and colors. This is the first. Second. The supreme power of the country is interested in transferring power to the regions. And for this it is necessary to increase the responsibility of the State Duma and the Federation Council in the selection and placement of personnel in almost all branches of government. The adoption of these amendments does not strengthen presidential power; they mean that the country is beginning to build a real state with social responsibility to the people. I think that these amendments are just the beginning of a more complex path of development for the country. There is still a lot of interesting things ahead
  79. -4
    23 June 2020 18: 16
    Where is “someone” rushing and why?
    Like this? Is it really not clear?
    The second term of “someone” will soon come to an end, and after 2018 this “someone” has done so much “for the good of the people” that these same “people” today hate him fiercely... hmm.. love him very much and loves it! lol
    “Someone” felt scared for their lack of envy... hmm... wonderful future, it’s just scary, that’s all.
    This is precisely why “someone” is trying to make it in time to “get elected” forever, while he still has time, a majority in the Duma and administrative resources...
    Here the main thesis is "while there is still time" !!!
  80. -1
    23 June 2020 20: 46
    1. The running process must be terminated (“Communication must be completed”).
    2. For my “taste” it was necessary to simply abolish clause 3 of Art. 81 of the Constitution, and then let the people choose.
  81. -4
    23 June 2020 20: 50
    Good evening everyone! My name is Andrey, I am almost 50 years old. I’ve been on the site for a long time, I never commented, I just read.
    The author spoke about a sore subject, and spoke correctly. Everything is just like that. I will definitely go and vote, but I will be against it. Why doesn’t anyone ask the question that we were stripped naked in 2014? The dollar was 30, but became 70 rubles. Coming to the former Soviet Republics, it becomes uncomfortable when they ask such questions: “What happened to you, but it is the same with us.”... My wife and I are entrepreneurs. Taxes were always paid. Guys, things have really gotten tough now.
    Don’t you see what our people buy in grocery stores, they buy things just to survive?... What has this digitalization given us? Only that they have us for everything. (Whoever is an entrepreneur probably knows how tax returns are reset by government agencies, how VAT refunds are paid for legal entities). And so, almost everywhere.
    You can throw tomatoes......
    1. -1
      23 June 2020 23: 36
      Quote: dinadra
      Good evening everyone! My name is Andrey, I am almost 50 years old. I’ve been on the site for a long time, I never commented, I just read.
      The author spoke about a sore subject, and spoke correctly. Everything is just like that. I will definitely go and vote, but I will be against it. Why doesn’t anyone ask the question that we were stripped naked in 2014? The dollar was 30, but became 70 rubles. Coming to the former Soviet Republics, it becomes uncomfortable when they ask such questions: “What happened to you, but it is the same with us.”... My wife and I are entrepreneurs. Taxes were always paid. Guys, things have really gotten tough now.
      Don’t you see what our people buy in grocery stores, they buy things just to survive?... What has this digitalization given us? Only that they have us for everything. (Whoever is an entrepreneur probably knows how tax returns are reset by government agencies, how VAT refunds are paid for legal entities). And so, almost everywhere.
      You can throw tomatoes......

      Vote no. Help the Japanese take back the Kuril Islands. Under Putin, this is not possible, I think, but sooner or later a new Gorbachev will come and give them back, like he gave them to the USSR. An entry into the Constitution will prevent this from being done, because it will contradict it. You will be against pension increases. Medical guarantees.
      Have you even read the text of the changes? Or are you the last bastard who wants to do harm?
      Why have we begun to live worse than in the USSR? The country is GONE. Not a country, but pieces, bleeding and already at war with each other. Let's tear off your leg and see how much less fit you become for life. Let's wait until it grows back for you.
      I’m 73. And you lived to see gray hair, and you didn’t understand a damn thing what was happening.
    2. +1
      24 June 2020 09: 31
      Quote: dinadra
      Those who are entrepreneurs probably know how tax returns are reset by government agencies and how VAT refunds are paid for legal entities).


      What? We don't know. Tell me if it's not difficult for you. With examples and the name of the tax authorities who reset something there and don’t pay you. belay
  82. +5
    23 June 2020 21: 01
    Bliss. As soon as someone writes that the president has done something good, everyone is immediately downvoted.
    This means we are doing everything right. The right direction has been chosen. Well done president. He does everything clearly. You (the negative ones) should not be given a chance to change the path of the country’s development.
    1. -1
      23 June 2020 21: 59
      I will never upvote or downvote. Everyone has their own point of view. That's how it should be.
      1. 0
        23 June 2020 23: 28
        Quote: dinadra
        I will never upvote or downvote. Everyone has their own point of view. That's how it should be.

        Man solves one single problem of his appearance on Earth. Understand what is EVIL and what is GOOD. Only because everything is known by comparison, therefore, in paradise, where there was no EVIL, there was no concept of GOOD. There is no GOOD in Hell, therefore there is no EVIL there. And only on Earth there is both. Therefore, you can only understand these concepts here. The lack of your own assessment of any event makes your presence here in vain. Your assessment is important to those who speak out. Not everyone will accept it. But that's their business.
  83. -3
    23 June 2020 21: 39
    What spears are breaking here! What a passion! I'm sorry for everyone. Obediently burying yourself within the indicated boundaries, you suck at the thrown-in topic. This whole controversy was started so that no one would pay attention to the fact that the object of the amendments does not exist. From the word AT ALL. On the Internet you can find ALL the texts of the constitutions of both the USSR and the RSFSR in the ORIGINAL, with state symbols, signatures and seals. But the Russian Federation does not. Again from the word AT ALL. You can only find a project with edits not by night, be mentioned by the eternally drunk EBN. Which constitutional amendments will you vote FOR or AGAINST? She's gone. When you come to vote, you simply endorse the public offer agreement and approve the trust for the existence of the management company of the Russian Federation, which has seized power in the country. Let's go, lemmings! The new “constitution” will be respected in the same way as the old one. No way, as confirmed by pension reform and hysteria with the virus. And read at your leisure about your future http://katyusha.org/view?id=14599&utm_source=politobzor.net
  84. +1
    23 June 2020 23: 20
    It’s impossible to explain to the anti-Russian creatures that they adopted the 1993 constitution as a whole package.

    "The voting took place on December 12, 1993. 58,43% voted for the adoption of the constitution, 41,57% voted against. The new constitution was adopted and came into force from the date of its publication in the Rossiyskaya Gazeta - December 25, 1993."

    Then, for some reason, the people did not have the idea to extend the pleasure of considering and voting point by point and line by line of text.
    You can't vote like that now. Why? Is it because some bastards really want to give up the Kuril Islands, deprive pensioners of supplements to their pensions, inflationary or increasing ones.... Someone doesn’t like the restored connection between today’s Russia and the past. Some “concession” in the difficulty of reading all 300 amendments and voting on each one separately compromised before being combined into sections. There have already been sharply fewer of them. This means they understand the absurdity of their demands.
  85. -1
    24 June 2020 01: 15
    Quote: lexus
    The "nullified" one has been telling you for 20 years that counting money in other people's pockets, especially his and his "friends", is not good. Take and write a refutation of the article, than it is ridiculous to shake the air.

    Dear Lexus Alexey, what GDP is doing cannot but rejoice - it is again building the Russian state. Based on the national interests of citizens. If you don’t like it, change your gender, citizenship and leave Russia. Russia is no longer the same as in the 90s. And let all sorts of pro-Western ghouls like Lekha Lexus (Navalny?) express their opinion somewhere in the USA. The revolutionaries there just lack liberal leaders. You will burn tires, hang out with Afro-Mexicans, gays and whites of black origin. In general, everything you love about the USA is there.
    1. -2
      24 June 2020 01: 28
      Quote: Serge_
      Based on the national interests of citizens.

      Yes, yes, they killed a Kyrgyz - nationalism, killed a Russian - a hooligan.
      Quote: Serge_
      If you don’t like it, change your gender, citizenship and leave Russia.

      Why are you sending others somewhere? No matter how you were sent. In South Africa, for example. All national interests are there. Vuvuzela in your hands.
  86. 0
    24 June 2020 06: 29
    I have been reading the novel for many years, including you and Military Review. in many of your articles I do not agree with you, but here you seem to have taken my thoughts from my head. My respect to you!!!
  87. 0
    24 June 2020 09: 25
    Wow, Skomorokhov was squared off. This is not the first article on this topic. What is he afraid of? Any reason? Personal hatred for Putin? Where?

    It's all strange. But there is one more reason to vote “for” the changes. Otherwise, it’s a sin, I didn’t want to go - I’m lazy...
  88. -2
    24 June 2020 18: 08
    Let’s also leave the argument that “there is no one else”; there are 146 million people in the country, and it’s impossible to find one honest and smart person there?
    Well, I generally perceive this as an insult to the Russian people.

    Here is an absolutely true thought that has been gnawing at me for a long time: after all, it turns out, in essence, that the most ardent “patriots” - I quoted the word not by chance - they are the bearers of the very vile and shameless Russophobia!
    Well, how could it be otherwise? Of the hundred and fifty million people, not a single one of them can see a single one with a microscope? And they’re not even going to look - “what, they say, will you take from these people?”
    And equating my Motherland with an individual person (as Volodin says: There is Putin, there is Russia, there is no Putin, and there is no Russia) is generally not at all inappropriate in terms of offensiveness for any citizen, and for the country as a whole. By the way, this Volodin does not work as a turner, not as a combine operator, or even as a janitor. In general, who needs to work.
    Yes, you can’t find such Russophobia on the planet! However, we drove farther, with these dances and sing-alongs to the one and only genius of the Russian land! It's worth slowing down a little. Or even backtrack a little - to the point of at least minimal sanity. I foresee dislikes, but even those who essentially agree with my idea will have a question: should we slow down, and... But how?
  89. -2
    24 June 2020 18: 41
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    The meaning of the amendments Putin-will replace the pro-Western Duma with the pro Russian

    Yes, I have never seen such schizophrenia.

    The diagnosis is perfect!
  90. -2
    24 June 2020 19: 20
    Quote: Arzt
    Well, where is such a rush from?

    The world is not what it seems. The crowd sees the tip of the iceberg. We'll find out in 30 years.

    I'm afraid it will be much sooner...
  91. -2
    24 June 2020 19: 37
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Sobchak's fate if Kondrashka had not grabbed him.

    As for Kondrashka, it is still a very difficult question. It’s too bad she brought down the hero of democratization just in time.
    It would not be appropriate to mention these two names in the same row, but here with Rokhlin The tragic story also happened “very opportunely” (for whom). Former First Deputy Prime Minister Poltoranin writes about this very clearly in his book...
  92. -2
    24 June 2020 20: 17
    Roman, the question is correct: “Where are we rushing, and most importantly, why?” And there seems to be no easy and understandable answer. But hypothetical options arise.
    Lately, GDP has been looking downright unimportant. And communication with the people and servants is no longer live, but everything is recorded, and in general the video does not inspire... Here the damned Woland comes up with his “The point is not that man is mortal. The point is that sometimes he suddenly mortal." And here, as EBN used to say, a squiggle... Calculated and discussed is one thing transit of power - but it’s a completely different matter shit! boss! Yes, what is this...
    After all, what would normal thinking people want? Exactly civilized transit of power. Another question is that Putin did everything in order to mow down the clearing around himself (not a single independent person, not a single thinking person nearby!). This means that a civilized transit of power is not possible for us. And there is a quarrel and a fight over the body that has not yet cooled down. Separatism is shining (even Dudayev will seem like a good boy). It's not even the division that shines, but the tearing to shreds.
    And the rush is also because if the ruler’s body becomes completely weakened, but still survives, fortunately, there are stellar masses of doctors around, but he will have to hand over the reins - to anyone - because here he is personally important immunity clause for former presidents (as if we had a dozen of them).
    Hypothesis? Certainly. We don't have enough facts for a theory. But is the hypothesis at least somewhat justified? I spoke out. Comrades judge...
  93. -2
    24 June 2020 20: 27
    Quote: Oyo Sarkazmi
    Quote: Wizzzard
    He’s tired - and we hang ourselves?

    Duc, you’re not tired of Putin. If you regularly pay taxes, you are even very pleasant to Putin.
    Well, if you intend after that, then you have to live for 14 years. Try to settle down more comfortably. Schaub was not sick.

    For parting words and good advice, gran, so to speak, merci. However, I cannot help but make a remark. I have never drank from the same trough with any Oyo or Yomoyo in my life. Therefore, there is no need for one or two and “you”. This way it will be more polite and even prettier in appearance. How long I should live is as God wills.
    By the way, He didn’t seem to promise your leader immortality. And when they call, it doesn’t even depend on the guarantor himself. But this is a date for which no one has ever been late (despite some inclination of GDP towards this matter).
  94. 0
    24 June 2020 22: 17
    Well, I read them all. the most decent ones see the essence behind the words. the amendments should definitely be accepted. choice between shit and shit. It’s clear, it’s clear that a bunch of them are dishonestly being thrust upon the people. but this will definitely be useful!
    with the old constitution - old life. and all those who claim that Putin gave or, on the contrary, did not give something to the people, do not understand the essence of the state, not a damn thing
  95. 0
    25 June 2020 22: 45
    I support the author. I don’t expect any improvement, I don’t know what to do, I’ll just live. I wanted to vote “against” today, but they didn’t let me, they said I had to go from our voting point to another village. I live in Belgorod.
  96. +2
    26 June 2020 01: 19
    The difference between supporters for and against the amendments lies only in the degree of awareness of voters. If a person were interested in the work of power structures, then he would understand the mechanism for making decisions that are so unpopular among the people and the purpose of their adoption. It would become clear to him that the President of the Russian Federation does not have has nothing to do with such odious reforms in the pension sector, education, medicine and juvenile justice. The President does not make laws. The President is the guarantor of the constitution and ensures that the laws adopted by the State Duma comply with the constitution. The President ensures the coordinated work of the three branches of government: legislative, executive and judicial. He himself is not the authority and, according to the constitution, cannot assign power to himself. The most formidable thing the president is capable of is issuing a Decree, i.e., resolving friction between existing laws. Well, how can the commander-in-chief give orders to the military. But all criticism goes to him and, as you can see, it is not deserved. For many, it is a surprise when they hear that Russia is a colonial country. They turn you around and consider you a moron. I am already silent about the word sovereignty. Well, okay. I think you guessed who “recommends” the government to rule the country in the right direction. The trouble with Putin is that in 2007 in Munich he expressed disagreement with the colonial policy of the United States and the metropolis was offended by him. Well, the scythe has hit the rock. The gas station doesn’t want to be a gas station. In short, they have set a course to replace the disobedient one. But the people support him in the elections. The Fed, IMF, WHO and other consulting institutions are forcing the Russian government to adopt extremely unpopular laws, especially the law on increasing the retirement age. The United States imposes economic sanctions. The standard of living is deteriorating. All sins are blamed on Putin. Many people are misled. They believe that the president is to blame for everything. American agents of influence are preparing a color revolution. Putin is being actively discredited. The Navalnys and Platoshkins are calling for the overthrow of the government.
    The NOD social movement collects more than 2 million signatures to change the 1993 American Constitution. The Central Election Commission of Russia, according to the constitution, decides on the initiative for amendments. Putin submits a proposal to the State Duma, which approves. The Central Election Commission calls a referendum. The essence of the amendments is to build up Russia's sovereignty and further gradually remove the dependence of the transnational oligarchy represented by the United States. In short, there is an ordinary crypto war going on, where the trenches are in everyone’s heads. Unfortunately, many are misled and are in the enemy’s trenches.
  97. +1
    26 June 2020 04: 01
    It would be better if he changed his opinion about socialism
  98. 0
    26 June 2020 14: 22
    Ek the author is flattened and twisted)
    Apparently good amendments, we should take them (c)