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Penalty Plan. Fines according to plan

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Penalty area



I never hid the fact that I am an outspoken opponent of wearing masks and gloves. However, at the entrance to the store or pharmacy, or in transport I will wear them to the last. I just do not want sellers and drivers of minibuses to be fined, many of whom I have known for a long time.

We did not even have time to notice how in a matter of days almost the entire territory of Russia turned into a kind of penalty area. The site didn’t even have to be cleaned up, and the notorious public opinion at first was clearly in favor. The local princes, who received carte blanche from the guarantor himself, apparently decided that to frighten naughty people with penalties is the best way to save the masses from coronavirus.

However, I have little doubt that the so-called pandemic with ridiculous indicators of real incidence is much lower than half a percent, by and large, there is nothing to do with it. Someone will say that they held command-and-staff exercises around the world on the subject of how much a nation can hold out when it can’t do “nothing, nowhere and never”.

But it seems to me for some reason that in Russia, which, as you know, has a special to become, a simple idea worked out to collect, or rather, to tear off a few extra billion from the public. However, why only from the public, mainly from the business. You can rubles, but somewhere you can and dollars with euros.


And to do this in parallel with the global cleaning of business fields. After all, after self-isolation, self-liquidation will go, or rather, have already gone, all those enterprises and private shops that were lucky to gain at least some semblance of independence. As soon as the taboo on the right to bankruptcy is lifted, they will simply tumble down.

In the years of the Komsomol youth, the author fell under the analysis of flights in the faculty committee only for writing out the names of famous repressed from the encyclopedia. Yes, and compared the dates of death. In response to my objections that the information is open and is no longer a secret to anyone, the representative of the party committee firmly stated that the information was open, but doing this kind of analysis is not my business.

I remembered this as soon as I got into my hands a material called “Russia. Compulsion to quarantine ", open, but not too accessible. Authors in our time, too, may indicate on occasion that analysis is "not their business." Therefore, even if we are not the 37th year, I will not make links and name the names of many analysts.

Penalty Battalions


In fact, very few are vested with the right to fine in a state of law with a somewhat stable constitution. First of all, fiscals and some of the law enforcement agencies. Non-acceptance write-offs of penalties and fines, as well as simply debts, have so far been the norm only by court order. Coronavirus made it easy to get rid of this kind of restriction.

Russia, following the example of several other countries of the world, has taken truly unprecedented measures to prevent the spread of a new disease. Now, the authorities have already begun to report nicely on their unprecedented successes, although the reason for the low morbidity and low mortality should probably be sought at all in the regulatory chaos that we have had for almost three months.

Recall, Moscow gave a start to everything, where they immediately decided to get ahead of all of Russia in terms of negative indicators. And got ahead. Ahead and in another - in readiness to put on stream. Mayor Sobyanin called his decree of March 5, although what decrees may the mayor have? The decree is a presidential affair, but let lawyers deal with this.

So, from March 5, the capital has already introduced a high alert regime due to the threat of the spread of a new coronavirus infection. Fines were introduced a little later, when the analytical structures simulated a whole range of violations for which it would be possible to mercilessly fine both the public and the business sector.

Apparently, the primitive closure of the business for many in such circumstances was even a blessing: after all, simple is a guarantee against fines. At the same time, it is not a secret to anyone that almost all who had at least some opportunity to try to provide certain services, to sell goods. Or a good "roof".

However, the conveyor was running. For Moscow, almost the rest of the regions hurried up and down. Some local leaders, but above all the regional security forces and fiscals, seem to have arranged a kind of social contest in terms of whoever writes the most fines.

Tatarstan overtook everyone at a kind of police race: they managed to start 55.603 cases on all kinds of quarantine violations there. More than 23 thousand cases - in the Krasnodar Territory. But in Chechnya there are only 44 cases in the courts, and in the Nenets Autonomous Okrug - the only one. And what do you think is less sick in Tatarstan than in Chechnya? Not at all, statistics across the country are not jumping much, which speaks only of one thing: you can’t improve your health with fines.

“Obviously, police and judicial conveyors for stamping fines in a difficult economic situation, as well as repressive practices during a difficult epidemiological situation, do not reduce the risk of spreading COVID-19, but only aggravate the situation, putting even more people at risk of infection, including detained protesters. A moratorium on human rights, including freedom of expression, and intolerance of protests in any form is a permanent sign of the political regime in Russia at any time, ”

- convinced Anna Bochilo, candidate of law.

Only on the eve of the Victory Parade, quarantine measures began to be quickly curtailed, even in Moscow with its terrible numbers and the little-known number of “April 15 victims”. Fortunately, the process did not reach the real chaos. The idea to put the matter as a kind of penalty conveyor, let it remain the idea. And it would be good forever.

Free kick…


Ostap Bender, as you know, knew four hundred relatively honest ways of taking money from the public. The organizers of self-isolation and quarantine applied the 401st, although the very conditions for its use were initially not called honest, the language does not turn out. Suddenly it turned out that you can fine just for the fact that someone was too far from their own apartment.


The penalty became a matter of life. The prospect of earning money on fines inspired many, starting with the valiant Rosgvardeytsy and ending with unknown security structures. And in itself a fine, more recently - something random, has become commonplace literally for everyone. In any case, from now on, it seems that the children will be scared by fines.

I'll start with the main thing. After quarantine was introduced, until the middle of June there was not a single day (not a single day!) When there were no reports from the regions about the number of protocols for committing administrative offenses in the open press. Fortunately, news cases of police arbitrariness and criminal cases related to coronavirus articles were reported much less frequently.

There is such an independent in Russia, we will consider that so, the analytical service "Justice". So, there the lawyers considered that in just over two months of self-isolation (according to all laws and the Constitution, this term already a priori implies voluntariness), almost 400 thousand cases have been filed with the courts in violation of Part 1 of Article 20.6.1 of the Administrative Code of the Russian Federation. This article is for failure to comply with the rules of conduct in an emergency or the threat of its occurrence.

We will not spread here that no one has declared any emergency either in the country or in any of the regions. Either the people decided not to intimidate at all, but rather, they simply regretted the money. But the threat seemed to be, and perhaps even remains. It is important that these 400 thousand cases with a minimum fine of 1000 rubles immediately give the treasury only 400 million rubles.

Much less cases were filed under another article - 6.3 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation, part 2, more capacious, with 15 fines, punishments follow for violation of the law in the field of ensuring the sanitary and epidemiological welfare of the population. This, apparently, for masks and gloves, or something else worse. There are only about 17 thousand of such in the courts, but even here almost 250 million are rushing.

Add to this the fines for the Social Monitoring application for those who grossly violated quarantine or self-isolation for two weeks, or indefinite, for those over 65 years of age. Only Moscow managed to issue such fines as many as 54 thousand in the amount of 216 million rubles. And it is unlikely that they will be allowed to not be paid to anyone.

Well, then for now there are already amounts of a completely different scale. If readers do not know, let me remind you that only in several regions of the country they did not follow the path indicated by the metropolitan authorities and did not introduce electronic passes and disproportionate fines directly attached to them. 5000 rubles - just for traveling without a pass - is, in fact, for memory, more than the minimum unemployment benefit. However, in Russia, it is probably believed that there is no need for unemployed people to drive around in cars.

By the way, no one has yet presented reliable statistics on how many fines have been charged at least in Moscow and the Moscow region, and there are big doubts that they will be able to get it at all. The inhabitants of the multi-million megalopolis and its environs will never forget about what happened on April 15 at the Moscow Ring Road, as well as at the entrances to the metro.

If you add to all this, St. Petersburg and all the little things from the regions, then even without a fine, you will get almost a billion rubles into the penalty treasury. About him, as well as about how much money the representatives of small and not so business flew across the country, in my next study.

To be continued ...
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  1. sav
    sav 21 June 2020 15: 06 New
    +7
    In NN, we must pay tribute to the police - they treat the “open” people very loyally.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 21 June 2020 15: 13 New
      20
      then even without fines, almost a billion rubles will be collected in the penalty treasury.

      Do not let go .. and prohibit .. there is nothing easier .. It was much harder to work ahead of schedule ...
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 21 June 2020 15: 28 New
        24
        It was much harder to work ahead of schedule ...

        They have their own “plan” ... and “Argentine flour”, which depress the remaining brain activity and cause withdrawal pain, forcing you to go into someone else’s pocket for the next dose. There are no creators in those circles.
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 21 June 2020 16: 31 New
        -4
        I called friends in Portugal. They have more fines. And the restrictions were tougher.

        We have a very loyal police force.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 21 June 2020 17: 59 New
          14
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          I called friends in Portugal. They have more fines. And the restrictions were tougher.

          Well, stop lying already! My friend youtube channel has about life in Portugal.
        2. Malyuta
          Malyuta 21 June 2020 19: 21 New
          +5
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          I called friends in Portugal. They have more fines. And the restrictions were tougher.

          We have a very loyal police force.

          Honestly, why are you such Zaputinsky whistle-balabol, where did you consume your conscience?
          Here you have fresh Portugal!


          Well, where are the Casmanauts in cordon with the auto-orders
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 June 2020 21: 53 New
          +3
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          I called friends in Portugal. They have more fines. And the restrictions were tougher.

          And we somehow everything worked out calmly. The first time they warned (they gathered at a neighbor's birthday party).
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 21 June 2020 15: 16 New
      18
      In NN, we must pay tribute to the police - they treat the “open” people very loyally.

      Can I already kiss for it?

      Ostap Bender, as you know, knew four hundred relatively honest ways of taking money from the public. The organizers of self-isolation and quarantine applied the 401st, although the very conditions for its use were initially not called honest, the language does not turn out. Suddenly it turned out that you can fine just for the fact that someone was too far from their own apartment.

      Pickpockets have no other task than to cut a wallet and clean their pockets. Still “believing” the opposite in naivety - my condolences, “patriots for money” - so that they would never have enough babos for them in the “common fund” again. good
      1. your1970
        your1970 21 June 2020 18: 37 New
        +6
        in the Saratov region, a lot of cases were initiated - but the courts generally issued warnings to individuals and lawyers
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. Crane
      Crane 21 June 2020 19: 13 New
      +2
      In NN, we must pay tribute to the police - they treat the “open” people very loyally.
      ============
      For Voronezh, I’ll say the same thing. I went into the beer depot and saw that people were being deployed without masks. And in the “Magnet” they gave the mask at the box office. Warnings in shops and minibuses hang ...
    5. raw174
      raw174 22 June 2020 06: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: sav
      In NN, we must pay tribute to the police - they treat the “open” people very loyally.

      In our country, the protocol according to 20.6.1 is drawn up in conjunction with 20.21 of the Code of Administrative Offenses ... According to 6.3, 1 or 2, for the whole period they made up. But in our village and the police always face people, everyone has known each other since childhood and excesses will come sideways ...
    6. Observer2014
      Observer2014 27 June 2020 12: 34 New
      -3
      Quote: sav
      In NN, we must pay tribute to the police - they treat the “open” people very loyally.

      yes Pure truth. What are the masks in the subtropics? And more gloves? In winter, spring and autumn I agree. And in the summer! ???? wassatWho is the dangerous heracles there? Let's go over your mask regimen in half an hour on the street. Speaking of the police. Duris have done a lot during self-isolation. Particularly impressed with 16 zero, zero total road blocking and the creation of artificial traffic jams. The Darwin Prize earned honestly! good You can print medals and hang a mighty one on your chest. And to the “boys” In a fashionable uniform and balaclava at the post reinforcements, special thanks. You looked cool with machine guns and machine guns. Worthy use for “cool” men tongue lol . But nebyli were noticed in fines. Though there was enough mind here not to annoy your people once again.
      I briefly described my city. And my impressions of the past self-isolation. hi
  2. Login_Off
    Login_Off 21 June 2020 15: 09 New
    +9
    NO FINE PLAN!
    Correctly "non-tax revenues."
    If you write about it, you should know it.
    And so, yes. You are right, there is daily reporting and there should be indicators.
    1. depressant
      depressant 21 June 2020 16: 40 New
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      When the zeal was still sporadic, Putin convened a meeting on issues related to the impending epidemic. The meeting was held on March 15, 2020. The State Council working group on the fight against coronavirus was formed. The group was led by Sobyanin, empowered nationwide. The Deputy Prime Minister Golikova also entered the group. She immediately harshly stated that if people with a varying degree of authority have not taken the necessary and sufficient measures to combat the “infection”, then the consequences will be considered “as criminal negligence”. Which implies an expression of mistrust on the part of the head of state. Everybody got busted! Starting from the heads of regions and ending with the mayors of the smallest villages. But how to assess the sufficiency of the zeal of an administrative employee, his dedication in the fight against "infection"? Not by words, not by assurances that he was torn. We thought it over and decided: length is measured in meters, mass - kilograms. From this it is directly inferred that the unit of zeal, which allows not to fall under the distribution of Putin, is a fine. Visibly, weightily, measured by the sum, and the more substantial the fine of citizens, the better the overall volume of zeal looks. And, nice, profitable. And the fact that in the absence of an official announcement of quarantine, such a unit of administrative “care” for citizens is illegal, then this is the tenth thing.
  3. Asad
    Asad 21 June 2020 15: 11 New
    26
    I rode on a tram yesterday, my aunt didn’t want to wear a mask, the driver called the police! We arrived in 10 minutes! They go on a robbery longer!
    1. Alf
      Alf 21 June 2020 21: 32 New
      14
      Quote: ASAD
      the driver called the police! We arrived in 10 minutes! They go on a robbery longer!

      So you have to work on the robbery, but then I arrived and in five to ten minutes I drew a cross for myself.
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 21 June 2020 15: 17 New
    +3
    A burning topic ... in my city an interesting story happened ... smile

    https://ria.ru/20200430/1570818258.html
    And if you dig into it even deeper ... then in general, mom do not grieve. what
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 21 June 2020 15: 42 New
    -13
    How many wonderful discoveries can bring us offended by the whole world individuals.
    I have already pointed out to this wonderful individual that she pulled only those facts that confirm her version, offered to adhere to all real facts .... no, not given. Stuck on one, everything is bad with us, not right ......
    And then where is it that everything is all right, okay? Where is everyone and everyone happy?
    1. Valter1364
      Valter1364 21 June 2020 16: 42 New
      16
      You can stick to the post. Any article, in its essence, is opportunistic. Someone fate hollows, but he lives and enjoys the next day lived. And someone stepped on his foot, and he went and hanged himself. Negativity must be talked about. In the Kuban, generally darkness was during this pandemic. And what, look at all this mess and be silent?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 June 2020 17: 18 New
        +1
        Do not be silent, bring your facts, ask others, compare.
        As in the Kuban, we know this firsthand. As we have told, what is ....
        Everywhere in different ways and from small-town excesses, no one is safe.
        Specifically, we have already argued with the author of the article, more than once ... to no avail, everything is bad, bad, bad, when it comes to specifics, it evaporates with real facts, as it was not. I had a desire, more than once, to call her ... a description of how they deserve it .....
        1. Valter1364
          Valter1364 21 June 2020 17: 32 New
          +2
          I wrote in the comments about the situation in Novorossiysk.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 21 June 2020 18: 32 New
            +6
            Everything happens everywhere for one reason. The population of the country, regions, regions, cities has no influence on the upper governing bodies, practically no. Only in the case when the leader, the petty one, becomes more objectionable to the upper, does the movement occur and the voice of the people at the top becomes, as it were, heard.
            This is our reality, because we do not have anything in common, but there is ... in short, there is no unity, therefore no one will hear us.
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 21 June 2020 18: 51 New
      +6
      Quote: rocket757

      How many wonderful discoveries can bring us offended by the whole world individuals.

      But I’m wondering - how many people from those present at VO were fined and how much each. Only honestly.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 June 2020 18: 56 New
        -1
        We have never heard of such a thing! And in my department there are two such "magpies" who always and everyone knows .... they really know, I was convinced of this more than once or twice.
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta 21 June 2020 19: 07 New
        11
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        But I’m wondering - how many people from those present at VO were fined and how much each. Only honestly.

        On a bolt I saw their fines angry But a neighbor of 74 years was fined 4 ty for a trip to the nearby Auchan.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 21 June 2020 19: 20 New
          +2
          Quote: Malyuta

          On a bolt, I saw their fines angry But a neighbor of 74 years was fined 4 ty for a trip to the nearby Auchan.

          About the neighbor is not necessary. Solzhenitsyn, too, "I didn’t see it, but they told ..."
          I didn’t want to offend you and I believe that the neighbor ....
          I'm just wondering how many people are fined from those who are registered at VO.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 21 June 2020 19: 34 New
            +3
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            About the neighbor is not necessary. Solzhenitsyn, too, "I didn’t see it, but they told ..."
            I didn’t want to offend you and I believe that the neighbor ....
            I'm just wondering how many people are fined from those who are registered at VO.

            Thank you for not questioning the Old hi Personally, no one fined me or even tried, I put on the mask all the time, they just didn’t let me go without it, and it was too lazy to bull. hi
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 21 June 2020 19: 46 New
              +5
              Quote: Malyuta
              Thank you for not questioning the Old

              Why should I not trust you?
              I am convinced that most honest and decent people are here.
              What do not agree, well, it happens.
              Quote: Malyuta
              I put on the mask all the time,

              I, too, were not allowed into the pharmacy ... I say - I'm behind the mask. Let’s go.
              I would wear it like a respectable citizen, but when in a mask, my glasses fog up and then I don’t see anything. hi
              1. Alf
                Alf 21 June 2020 21: 37 New
                +3
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                I would wear it like a respectable citizen, but when in a mask, my glasses fog up and then I don’t see anything.

                The sheriff's blacks don't ... love. But in winter, what kind of “fun” will begin ...
      3. Alf
        Alf 21 June 2020 21: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Quote: rocket757

        How many wonderful discoveries can bring us offended by the whole world individuals.

        But I’m wondering how many people from those present at VO were fined and how much each. Only honestly.

        I never once. It’s just that wearing on the street is forbidden, but when they go into the store and are muzzled, they all take them together or lower them to the level of the chin. The fact of the presence and wearing of the mask is, but how to wear, so nothing is said about it. Although, in my Samara policemen are set to maskless do not care.
      4. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 June 2020 22: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        But I’m wondering - how many people from those present at VO were fined and how much each.

        I personally only know that they fined the teenagers (their parents) who had gathered for a “tea to drink” farm, the police sent them by bus to the house, but they returned “to drink tea”. Parents were fined 100 euros.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 21 June 2020 23: 11 New
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Parents were fined 100 euros.

          Damn it ...!
          I do not understand why in euros? Some nonsense.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 22 June 2020 07: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            I do not understand why in euros? Some nonsense.

            But I do not live in Russia, but in the Tribaltics.
      5. SASHA OLD
        SASHA OLD 22 June 2020 05: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Quote: rocket757

        How many wonderful discoveries can bring us offended by the whole world individuals.

        But I’m wondering - how many people from those present at VO were fined and how much each. Only honestly.

        No one.
        Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug-Ugra, Surgut.
        Police officers first give an oral warning if someone begins to swing rights (in parks, for example, which are supposedly closed, you can only go through but not fry the barbecue). In general, people were really fined either drunk or those who had been bulls ... And the people relaxed: on the street just crowds in the evenings began to wander - as if in protest. It got warmer - we went to the beaches, there were crowds hanging out, sunbathing in the parks ... In short, at some point, the policemen realized that something had to be done. The issuing of fines began more actively, but again - there is no kind of nighting. Among my friends there are also no fines
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 22 June 2020 10: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: SASHA OLD
          No one.

          Well, you can summarize the preliminary result. None of those registered at VO said he was fined. Therefore -
          Quote: Slavs

          The purpose of the current system is to take money from the population under any pretext. Moreover, among the lower strata of the population, the richer you are, the less you owe to the treasury ...
          - There is an unreasonable chatter.
          And fines are nothing more than an attempt to force people to implement the recommendations of epidemiologists. What would any of us do if we believe that epidemiologists are right? And that treatment at the expense of the state 100 people is one thing, and 1000 is another.
          1. AK1972
            AK1972 22 June 2020 16: 32 New
            +1
            A protocol was drawn up for me for violating self-isolation, although there was a pass, but as for sin it was Sunday, and I was far from the nearest supermarket to the house. A month passed while there was nothing from the court. We will wait, although I think that the protocols are not written just like that.
  6. Slavs
    Slavs 21 June 2020 15: 43 New
    18
    The purpose of the current system is to take money from the population under any pretext. Moreover, among the lower strata of the population, the richer you are, the less you owe to the treasury ...
    Interest for transfer to the bank, fines for masks, etc., income tax with salary.
    I thought the income from the bourgeois, but I have a pay for labor ..)) But no .. Also income))
    1. your1970
      your1970 21 June 2020 20: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Slavs
      income payroll tax ...
      I thought bourgeois income,and I have payment for labor..)) But no .. Also income))
      -You will be in shock-but this type of tax existed in the USSR too ....
      “The scale of income tax in the USSR has always progressed. It has repeatedly undergone changes. If a person received less than 70 rubles / 30 days, he did not make contributions to the state budget. The rate looked like this:
      Up to 89 p. - ten %.
      89-100 p. - 12%.
      From 100 r. - 13 %"

      But at the same time there were no bourgeois in the USSR ... but income belay the tax was ...
      1. Slavs
        Slavs 21 June 2020 21: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: your1970
        -You will be in shock-but this type of tax existed in the USSR too ....

        Yes, I know, so there will be no shock))
        It's just that this formulation always amused me, and now especially ...
        And you probably from bourgeois? )) The USSR does not give rest? )))
        A nightmare of a businessman))))
        1. your1970
          your1970 21 June 2020 22: 36 New
          -2
          Quote: Slavs
          And you probably from bourgeois? )) The USSR does not give rest? )))
          no ... just answered your surprise
          Quote: Slavs
          I thought bourgeois income, and I have pay for labor ..
          -in the USSR there was no income and bourgeois -a income was ...
          1. Slavs
            Slavs 21 June 2020 22: 47 New
            +2
            Quote: your1970
            just answered your surprise

            This is not a surprise ... So, gloomy thoughts are rumored ...
            Do not be angry about harshness, if anything.
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 22 June 2020 11: 03 New
            -1
            Quote: your1970
            -in the USSR there was no income and bourgeois -a income was ...

            And in my opinion, any receipt of money in your pocket, you earned it at your main job or on the day off did some kind of service and you were paid for it, or stolen, or presented to you, this is your income.
      2. polar fox
        polar fox 22 June 2020 06: 35 New
        +4
        Quote: your1970
        But at the same time there were no bourgeois in the USSR ... but there was an income tax ...

        and how much tax did the police and military have?
        1. your1970
          your1970 22 June 2020 07: 17 New
          -1
          AND? Why are police officers on this issue? Were they bourgeois in the USSR?
      3. Vikxnumx
        Vikxnumx 22 June 2020 09: 15 New
        +1
        Up to 89 p. - ten %.
        89-100 p. - 12%.
        From 100 r. - 13 %"

        But at the same time there were no bourgeois in the USSR ... and income tax был was ...

        But what did you stop?
        There the scale goes on.
        And beautiful numbers with big incomes!
  7. bandabas
    bandabas 21 June 2020 16: 03 New
    0
    By the road Chibis, he screams, freaks out an eccentric ... Without a mask. The head of the Murmansk region. All masked, this comrade from the circus -without. And the cries of this actor are ... [media = https: //yandex.ru/video/preview/? FilmId = 17933581661294917042 & text = meeting% 20у% 20chibisa% 20 without% 20masks & path = wizard & parent-reqid = 1592744328219519-431736185169645478700251 host-man-web-yp-356 & redircnt = 1592744343.1]
  8. knn54
    knn54 21 June 2020 16: 14 New
    11
    Something the Soviet joke remembered:
    "The cops argued:
    - Yes, you can’t find fault with anyone!
    - Come on, I’ll find fault with anyone!
    - Come on, here’s the fault with the post!

    The cop looks around the post: looks at the asphalt
    - Cho dug in?
    looking at sale ads
    - Cho speculating?
    looking at wires
    - Cho made connections?
  9. Pavel57
    Pavel57 21 June 2020 16: 15 New
    +6
    Kovid was an occasion for shaking the economy, politics and introducing electronic surveillance of the population.
    1. Crane
      Crane 21 June 2020 19: 19 New
      +1
      Kovid was an occasion for shaking the economy, politics and introducing electronic surveillance of the population.
      =======
      You are at the computer now, why not electronic supervision? Yes, and smart with bank cards, you probably have ...
      And what electronic supervision have you introduced?
      Skipping e-mail is not about smart above.
      1. tomket
        tomket 22 June 2020 00: 32 New
        0
        Quote: Crane
        And what electronic supervision have you introduced?
        Skipping el.

        It’s important for Bill Gates to know which garage he drinks a bottle of port in the evenings.
  10. tomket
    tomket 21 June 2020 16: 35 New
    -2
    I read this opus and that's what catches your eye. First things first, the author’s flaunting, the so-called dissipation. Alas, now it’s not the 90s and this is in the red, and not the plus. I would be ashamed to talk about this, especially bragging. It turned out like in that joke, "And where did you get such pictures from the doctor?" Anyway. The next thing that caught my eye was the passage about the so-called pandemic. Dear author, are you by any chance "flat earth"? Suddenly, and the so-called land is not round at all?) Okay, I understand that you firmly believe that Sobyanin personally wants to get into your pocket and take your hard earned five thousand, under any pretext, but in the same Israel, the so-called pandemic"? Also, Moscow authorities came up with it. A deliberate disregard for security measures was launched. The author does not believe in them. It was because of people like you who deliberately neglected the instructions, and a zero patient from Italy appeared in Russia. That's because of people like you the virus went for a walk in the capital, and then in the regions. People like you, who don’t believe in the effectiveness of masks and gloves, and put them on just to get the bus driver fined, and infected me and my family. Now, people like you are unhappy that you are not allowed to spread the infection further, and you howl, because they threaten the most valuable for you. And the most valuable thing for you, as it turned out, is not the health of others, relatives and friends, but denyuzhki. So there is a universal groan and cry that threaten to take them away. Right?
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 21 June 2020 17: 27 New
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      Quote: tomket
      It was because of people like you who deliberately neglected the instructions, and a zero patient from Italy appeared in Russia. That's because of people like you the virus went for a walk in the capital, and then in the regions. People like you, who do not believe in the effectiveness of masks and gloves, and put them on, well, just so that the bus driver is not fined, and they infected me and my family.

      Let's not be scattered with unfounded accusations. A zero patient from Italy appeared in Russia only because no one gave an order on a temporary ban on visiting foreign countries, where ALREADY BEGAN !!! epidemic.
      The virus went for a walk around the capital because about 20 people spin and spin in a limited space there every day. And in most cases he went to the regions precisely from Moscow.
      People like us know that the effectiveness of the mask (one-time or home-made from gauze) is low, although it allows you to "choke in your own saliva and snot," without spoiling those around them. The mask is suitable for 2 hours. Gloves are effective, ways to remove them and disposal do not guarantee that the virus will not fall into your hands. Washing hands and faces with soap, treating hands and objects that can be touched with antiviral liquid makes sense and gives certain chances of not catching the “walking” infection.
      Such citizens as I, for example, did not go abroad for a long time and did not scour the hot places. Interestingly, you do not suspect us of the spread of HIV infection? Or Ebola?
      We are completely opposed to the fact that transport drivers and sellers in stores suffered because of us. Only our fault is incomparably smaller than that according to which statistics are kept in the country without the proper amount of sampling for this very COVID-19.
      According to your words, it is necessary to fine those who have become infected with the coronavirus ... But how? This is a clear violation of quarantine measures ... But what about those who have not suffered complications after an illness? Something your zeal reminded me:
      My father bequeathed to me:
      First, to please all people without exception -
      Boss, where you happen to live,
      To the boss with whom I will serve,
      His servant who cleans the dress
      To the janitor, the janitor, to avoid evil,
      Dog janitor, to be affectionate.

      You don’t really tear - pants may burst ...
      1. tomket
        tomket 21 June 2020 17: 41 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        A zero patient from Italy appeared in Russia only because no one ordered a temporary ban on visiting foreign countries, where ALREADY BEGAN

        The zero patient appeared not because of the ban, but because of the lack of a brain in the zero patient. As I understand it, a sobyanin must go after each and wipe his ass, his head is gone.
        Quote: ROSS 42
        People like us know that the effectiveness of the mask (one-time or home-made from gauze) is low, although it allows you to "choke in your own saliva and snot," without spoiling those around them. The mask is suitable for 2 hours.

        The helmet, too, you know, from a direct hit by a bullet, the SVD will not save, but it will save from a shrapnel and ricochet.
        Quote: ROSS 42
        ways to remove them and disposal do not guarantee that the virus will not fall into your hands

        Who is stopping you from taking extra precautions? Such as a piece of paper or washing hands with soap before removing? Oh yes, it's too complicated .... Think and do.
        Quote: ROSS 42
        According to your words, it is necessary to fine those who have become infected with the coronavirus ... But how?
      2. tomket
        tomket 21 June 2020 17: 48 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        According to your words, it is necessary to fine those who have become infected with the coronavirus ... But how?

        But the most interesting thing about fines. So. I went about wearing masks and gloves, I was alive and well, until a close relative brought me the coronovirus, who put on the mask when asked, and waved a hand over gloves. So. Upon learning that the whole family was already in contact (I was at work), upon returning from work, I bought food and stopped at a pharmacy for medicines. Arriving home, went to self-isolation. The next day, Rospotrebnadzor came with a prescription that it was at home for 14 days, with a threat of a fine of up to 40 thousand in case of violation. within 5 days there were no symptoms, and there was even a desire to go to work. But imagine, the threat of a penalty stopped, despite the fact that the first test was negative, and on the 6th day the temperature jumped sharply to 38,8
        Quote: ROSS 42
        You don’t really tear - pants may burst.

        Therefore, I would like to tell you, here are those like you who advocate for "pants" and the main share of responsibility for the spread and death of COVID.
    2. depressant
      depressant 21 June 2020 17: 27 New
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      Interested in your comment, a tomket colleague decided to look at the available data about the Author. I looked. Precipitated)) After regaining the previous brain structure, I looked again. Studied in detail the face of the publisher - why so nice! )))
      In short, colleagues, it would be necessary to criticize a certain Tatyana Petrova, and not a man who substituted himself. And since Petrov is absent, we comment on the article. We did not find another article on this topic in a person with a pleasant face.
      As for the mask, I still wear it - I wash it after going around the village. There are no gloves for a long time, they are torn. New ones are big, they interfere. In general, I am for a construction respirator. Much more reliable. I’ll never take off my mask. I come across a respirator, buy it. I saw one woman - fine!
      The fact is that covid is forever, we will not be naive.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 21 June 2020 17: 51 New
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        Quote: depressant
        As for the mask, I still wear it - I wash it after going around the village. There are no gloves for a long time, they are torn. New ones are big, they interfere. In general, I am for a construction respirator. Much more reliable. I’ll never take off my mask. I come across a respirator, buy it. I saw one woman - fine!
        The fact is that covid is forever, we will not be naive.

        Lyudmila Yakovlevna, you, as an adequate person, should know that a mask does not save ... a spacesuit is needed like Putin’s.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 21 June 2020 17: 55 New
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          Quote: Dead Day
          that the mask doesn’t save ... the suit is needed like Putin’s.

          Still need a bunker and a tunnel!
          1. depressant
            depressant 21 June 2020 18: 18 New
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            The jokers! )) I will proceed further from material possibilities. And whoever has them, they build or modify existing personal "bunkers" outside the city, in the countryside. With basements, necessary supplies. And these are not necessarily very rich people. I approve of this approach to self-isolation. So that you can walk in your own yard. And then it took more than two months to almost never leave home. Short runs. The masterly rounding of passers-by. Lack of sun. A habit to lie down and lie down longer. Unwillingness to speak out loud. Bride with what the appetite has arisen. Degradation. wassat
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 21 June 2020 18: 27 New
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              Quote: depressant
              Degradation.

              A colleague, what can I say, the country needs degradants, drunkards, obedient inhabitants and declassed elements.
              But we are not one of them drinks love
        2. tomket
          tomket 22 June 2020 00: 26 New
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          Quote: Dead Day
          you, as an adequate person, should know that the mask does not save.

          As an adequate person, can you provide research on worthlessness before stating this? Statistics, what kind of masks are you talking about? What material? The manufacturer? Not ? You can not?
      2. Avior
        Avior 21 June 2020 18: 05 New
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        Mask protects by inhalation and exhalation
        That is, both of you and of you, if you are suddenly a virus carrier and still do not know
        Arespirator - only by inhalation, there is a valve.
        1. depressant
          depressant 21 June 2020 20: 00 New
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          But what happens if you put on a mask over a respirator? Well, or vice versa? Will suffocation take place? laughing
        2. bk0010
          bk0010 21 June 2020 20: 07 New
          +2
          The mask does not protect, it simply changes the direction of inhalation-exhalation: exhale not forward, but up and down. When you inhale the air goes in a similar way. I wear glasses, in a mask they fogged up when exhaling, so it’s checked on myself.
  11. mag nit
    mag nit 21 June 2020 16: 35 New
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    Everything goes according to plan. This is Putin's economic spurt.
    1. tomket
      tomket 21 June 2020 16: 40 New
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      Quote: mag nit
      Everything goes according to plan. This is Putin's economic spurt.

      As soon as someone begins to quote Letov, then immediately everything becomes clear ..... with the citing ...
  12. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 21 June 2020 16: 54 New
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    Something on the VO began to print frankly - and not at all military! - heresy. And flies here, like flies to honey, all the same to everyone dissatisfied generals, marshals and other Ahfitser’s senior command staff. It looks like someone's roof is leaking and off ... yes lol laughing
    1. Rostov Papa
      Rostov Papa 21 June 2020 19: 16 New
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      Totally agree with you. And if you write what kind of amendments to the Constitution, or a supporter of Putin, then immediately zamusunut and anathematized laughing Out on the branch
      Putin did not rule out the possibility of nominating for a new term
      farts vomits not childish. And do not blaspheme the senior command staff, the titles were received in heavy and protracted couch battles laughing
      1. depressant
        depressant 21 June 2020 20: 45 New
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        Colleagues Vladimir Mashkov, Rostov Dad, let me disagree with you. The virus is a military weapon. We have spoken about this at VO many times. Weapons are invisible, insidious, merciless to both the military and civilians. A weapon of a new type, from which it is very difficult, is almost impossible to hide for anyone. For example, the current coronavirus. There will not be a vaccine for a long time, and a new virus will arrive there - specialists in aggressor countries are actively working in this direction, registering patents. And we can assume that, having carefully studied the genetic characteristics of the population of a country, the aggressor will create a virus of selective action and, just in case, an antidote, without its own losses, not caught by the arm or will mow that country cleanly or forever weaken. And the fact that now the cove has covered everyone indiscriminately is the "test of the pen", the costs of the initial stage of combat use. And even something like an experiment to study the possible migration routes of a virus, the peculiarities of its mutation in different parts of the world, the reaction of governments of different countries to the epidemic situation as a force majeure, as well as the ability to cope with the epidemic - there are many things that can be deduced .. .
        So, for the impossibility of using nuclear, the era of bacteriological weapons has come. For this reason, the situation with coronavirus in our country is thoroughly and on all sides analyzed by VO. From this point of view, this article is in context.
        1. Rostov Papa
          Rostov Papa 21 June 2020 21: 37 New
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          That the virus is a military weapon does not need to be convinced. But the outline of the article is not about the situation with coronavirus, but about Putin and his "greedy apririchniki".
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 21 June 2020 17: 27 New
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    And yet, according to the official charts published on Yandex, the coronovirus declined ... July on the nose ... Thanks for the article ...
  14. tomket
    tomket 21 June 2020 17: 31 New
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    The bearded children were excited and desperately ignored for their disrespectful attitude towards their drunken god, who was stuck somewhere in the "perestroika".
  15. Magnat231
    Magnat231 21 June 2020 18: 15 New
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    Let me give you an example, Latvia, an EU country, about 10 years ago, there was such money as lats in use, they were more valuable than euros, 7 lats, it was 10 euros, so that’s why I didn’t allow pedestrians at the crossing, at the zebra, until he broke the fine, almost 100 euros, now, they let you go everywhere, it turns out, until you get to pay, the person stupidly does not understand
    1. depressant
      depressant 21 June 2020 20: 58 New
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      The same situation was in Russia. They started to fine, pedestrians were allowed to pass. In our village it’s not just that traffic police - you won’t see the police, but they’ll let them through. However, the situation with coronsvirus is different. The ban on work led to widespread impoverishment of the population. Fines are not good. Colossal explanatory work should be carried out. Kovid put everyone on the front edge of the front. People do not understand this, the government is “shy” to say so as not to offend foreign “partners”. We must say.
      1. tomket
        tomket 22 June 2020 00: 28 New
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        Quote: depressant
        The ban on work led to widespread impoverishment of the population.

        What do you choose, life or work?
        1. CT-55_11-9009
          CT-55_11-9009 22 June 2020 15: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: tomket
          Quote: depressant
          The ban on work led to widespread impoverishment of the population.

          What do you choose, life or work?

          And if you work, is life? Otherwise, there is no money for even survival. What then?
          1. tomket
            tomket 23 June 2020 00: 50 New
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            Quote: CT-55_11-9009
            ? Otherwise, there is no money for even survival. What then?

            are you dying of hunger?
            1. CT-55_11-9009
              CT-55_11-9009 23 June 2020 17: 56 New
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              Quote: tomket
              Quote: CT-55_11-9009
              ? Otherwise, there is no money for even survival. What then?

              are you dying of hunger?

              I have been malnourished since childhood. Since 1996. Still. So understandable?
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  17. Hypatius
    Hypatius 21 June 2020 20: 47 New
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    Bravo, a great syllable with meaning and logic. Learn smelly ... e east-west (?) Winds. I look forward to continuing ...
  18. veritas
    veritas 21 June 2020 22: 09 New
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    The fine itself, as a measure to strengthen discipline, is the right measure, but in this situation it does not need to be applied. A mask and gloves are not a panacea and protection against this measure is extremely low. And the approach of the authorities is extremely chaotic and not verified.
  19. datur
    datur 21 June 2020 23: 04 New
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    IF THE BUSINESS WAS ONLY AFFECTING THE FRAUD !!! BUT they don't care !!!! Until then, this business will not concern them !!!!!
  20. yehat2
    yehat2 22 June 2020 00: 12 New
    +2
    recently ran around the park from police and fines.
    violated the isolation mode of trees during a run.
    at the same time, 100 meters away from the citizens and children, in droves resting by the water, no one touched.
  21. Stas1973
    Stas1973 22 June 2020 03: 00 New
    +1
    There is such a place in Krasnoyarsk - Tatyshev Island, a popular holiday destination. Every day there are thousands of people, all without masks. Not a single one was fined. Cops are present there, but modestly huddle in the corners. But public transport and shops, at the same time, are woolly to the fullest.
  22. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 22 June 2020 03: 04 New
    +2
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    We have a very loyal police force.


    I agree!
    Especially strong love vibes of loyalty apply to migrants.
    Indigenous people, with a residence permit, passports, work, it is very easy to control and fine (for the cause).
    And migrants for the police have become completely transparent, they are not noticed at all.
    COVID diverges among this rather large stratum of the population, not a single employee of Roskomnadzor will tell you.
    But we will feel it.
    They are among us.
  23. zontov79
    zontov79 22 June 2020 04: 44 New
    +3
    Do not forget that gas prices are rising again for no apparent reason, as we know, they are rising for absolutely any reason, even which, in general, are not dependent on. Now I appeal to everyone, do you still want to vote for zeroing, or is it time to change these cattle in power!?
  24. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 24 June 2020 11: 10 New
    +1
    In Soviet times, masks and examinations were free and without exception. We would quickly set up production of immunoglobulin, and then vaccines .... Judging by the facts presented in the article, we are like rams slaughtering world politics. Baranovirus ....
  25. Essex62
    Essex62 26 June 2020 08: 11 New
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    Well, the fact that our reindeer herder adapted by imposing an additional tax in the form of fines on the population of Moscow, even before the pandemic, is not a secret for “traffic violations and parking, it’s not a secret. the city, expressed in the continuous replacement of borders on the same streets several times, although he is divorced from the curb, but this does not change things.
    And even the most experienced one doesn’t get under the camera and the fine
    and disciplined carrier. The marking is applied accordingly. And they change it quite often, you think it’s there, but no, the Tajiks have redrawn the ambush.