The United States approved the sale of 16 Mark VI boats to Ukraine

The US Department of State authorized the sale to Ukraine under the Foreign Military Sale (FMS) program of 16 modern Mark VI patrol boats and related weapons. The total estimated cost of all this is $ 600 million.

The announcement of a future deal was released June 17 by the US Department of Defense Agency for Security Co-operation (DSCA). It informed Congress of the possibility of such a sale, which should have been done according to the requirements of American law.

The permission of the State Department does not mean that the transaction will take place, since it is only an intermediate step to making a final decision.

Earlier it was reported that the delivery of Mark VI patrol boats to Ukraine will occur at the expense of funds allocated as American military assistance to Ukraine.

The Ukrainian Navy plans to deploy a division of these boats on the Sea of ​​Azov.

The 26-meter Mark VI aluminum boats are operated by the US Navy Coastal River Force. They are also in service with a number of other countries.

The Mark VI propulsion system of two diesel engines with water jets provides a speed of 35 knots and a short-term maximum speed of 41 knots. Cruising range at a speed of 30 knots is about 600 miles.

The boat can be equipped with remotely controlled 25 mm M242 Bushmaster automatic guns, as well as 7,62 and 12,7 mm machine guns.

These patrol boats, unlike the previously purchased Island by Ukraine, are unlikely to be decommissioned, as they appeared on the arsenal of the U.S. Navy relatively recently, in 2016.

Comments

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Let them just try to shove us.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

Let them just try to shove us.

Border boats are not rocket frigates for you. Where can they poke around?

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Anything can be expected from the command of the border service of Ukraine.

[Cyril G ...]

In fact, these are boats for a coastal war, and it’s quite combat, our border boats carry significantly lighter weapons .... Mosquito forces for the coastal war have been taken root. There are five heels of 50-year-old armored vehicles pr. 1204.

Only if you call the aircraft.

[KCA]

Aluminum combat boat? One incendiary bullet with thermite mixture and what will happen to him? Drug patrol boats to drive

[x.andvlad]

Its main advantage is speed, as well as good weapons. Very suitable for provocations.

[KCA]

Weapons are put to order, I doubt that 404 will have enough money for weapons, they will put a couple of their CPV and that's it

[x.andvlad]

I do not think that they will have a problem with their weapons. They make their combat modules with automatic guns.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Cyril G ...

In fact, these are boats for coastal warfare, and that’s what’s quite combat,

We have an answer to them - PC 22160 with its maximum speed of 25 knots.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

We have Project 03160 patrol boats with a maximum speed of 48 knots.

[Elephant]

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

We have Project 03160 patrol boats with a maximum speed of 48 knots.

And with raptor weapons: the combat module "Urava-KORD" caliber 14,5 mm, 2x7,62 mm machine gun "Pecheneg" on swivel mounts. )))

[PROXOR]

Exactly. Helicopters can easily work and will be abruptly arsenal.

[Yarhann]

Developed countries have aviation and helicopters - why the hell is the armored boat, what the hell is the mosquito fleet - a couple of Mi28 missiles, and this bucket cost from Apache will go to the bottom. Honestly, one must not be smart to buy such junk for such loot. It was possible to buy ordinary boats one and a half destyaika for 2-3 llama apiece 30-40 lyam, a crew with Kalash on them, and in reinforcement for each boat to buy drone UAVs of strike (type ripper) for one complex (3 UAV + control) for 550 lyam. The trolka would be many times more - just at sea.

[The popuas]

The fact is that Ukraine does not buy them! The United States gives them as part of the assistance allocated from the budget of the United States itself; i.e., from the budget, someone feeds for $ 700 million And so this is the pure cost of recycling these "ships" in the states! so the Yankees have everything plus, plus the same as pulling us ...

[stalki]

Border boats are not rocket frigates for you. Where can they poke around?

Well, stuck on their own pimped. And on these, we’ll be honest, worthy of patrol cars, Bender’s arrogance will increase. Though small, but far from obsolete. I wonder in what configuration they can get them.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: stalki

Well, stuck on their own pimped. And on these, we’ll be honest, worthy of patrol cars, Bender’s arrogance will increase.

You can foolishly poke around, as well as onto tanks with a bottle of champagne.

[Piramidon]

Quote: tihonmarine

You can foolishly poke around

They are smart enough, especially if the Washington Regional Committee sets such a task.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Where can they poke around?

These are not brothers! Therefore, a lot of options.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Border boats are not rocket frigates for you. Where can they poke around?

Poachers to catch.

[ancient]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Where can they poke around?

"Piracy" .. this is a visiting card .. "horses" ...... they do not give them around the neck, so they are boundless ...... all merchant ships sailing along the Sea of ​​Azov can be subjected to ... " will come to mind. "
How many of our ships are already in the "full" ... and how many were given ... correct ..0.
That's all .. "tale"

[svp67]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Where can they poke around?

Well, judging by the supposed location of them, then to the Kerch bridge. In any case, the appearance of these boats in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov, even in the amount of ten pennants, for some time may outweigh the "BOWL OF WEIGHTS" "on the side of the Navy. And most importantly, this will create a strong threat to our fishermen from Crimea (remember" NORD ") and That is, now our side is obliged to take countermeasures in the form of building up its naval grouping in this water area and aviation groupings, especially combat helicopters.

[stalki]

Well, judging by the supposed location of them, then to the Kerch bridge. In any case, the appearance of these boats in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov, even in the amount of ten pennants, for some time may outweigh the "BOWL OF WEIGHTS" "on the side of the Navy. And most importantly, this will create a strong threat to our fishermen from Crimea (remember" NORD ") and That is, now our side is obliged to take countermeasures in the form of building up its naval grouping in this water area and aviation groupings, especially combat helicopters.

Something I did not understand why you were minuscule, objectively assessed, the strange people went. They love to engage in self-deception.

[svp67]

Quote: stalki

They love to engage in self-deception.

Well, here is not only "ours", there are also "theirs"

[stalki]

Moreover, minus when they are there for joy to jump to the moon should it's us a little byak. In short, I don’t quite understand what level of development some commentators are here, apparently not even with zero, but with negative

[shark]

For me, it's time to think about re-creating the Azov Flotilla. Its purpose, I see, is the protection of the state border, the protection of fishing in the Sea of ​​Azov. The ship's composition is just not clear. The raptors are great boats. But armed are undeniably lighter than these Marks. I would have looked at Soviet projects of small hovercraft.

[svp67]

Quote: shark

For me, it's time to think about re-creating the Azov Flotilla.

1000% agree. It's time to think about it, as well as designing and equipping it with decent ships. In the end, near Crimea, Taganrog ... there are places where you can create high-speed warships with high speed and not only KVP, but also on hydrofoils, just now new hydrofoil civilian vessels begin to appear on our rivers and seas. And of course, appropriately armed, so that they could fight back, if necessary

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: shark

small hovercraft.

Not worth it. But to reorganize the border forces in Azov by creating the Azov border flotilla (otherwise we have "Have seven nannies ......................." C), with the strengthening of its corresponding ships and boats

[Elephant]

It is written for the Sea of ​​Azov. I note that rocket frigates in this shallow water area have nothing to do.

[Elephant]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

It is written for the Sea of ​​Azov. I note that rocket frigates in this shallow water area have nothing to do.

It is written for the Sea of ​​Azov. I note that rocket frigates in this shallow water area have nothing to do.

[Civil]

26 meter aluminum boats Mark VI in operation

Luminium? To the Ukrainian army? Yes you are joking

[KCA]

In the evening 26m, in the morning 25m length ...

[zwlad]

Do you think they will hand over scrap right away?

[antivirus]

Does Deripaska reveal aluminum in the USA? - well done

[WILL]

And who will give the money to buy ??? Ukraine can hardly afford to spend $ 600 million from the budget ...
Yes, and why do they need so many boats? Bearing virtually no weapons.

[donavi49]

Delivery to Ukraine of Mark VI patrol boats will be occur at the expense of funds allocated as American military assistance to Ukraine.

[WILL]

I see ... It's like Younger schoolchildren, you can give money to buy Apple or Juice in the school cafeteria, but - it’s better not to risk it and immediately give yourself This same Apple or Juice ... so that the money does not go to soda of unknown origin!

[Doccor18]

The Americans allotted the help that was independent, then they will build boats for the same help at home and give them to the Ukrainians. As a result, aid was allocated, the US military-industrial complex with an order, the money remained in America, and Ukraine will receive 16 aluminum bunkers with machine guns.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Doccor18

As a result, aid was allocated, the US military-industrial complex with an order, the money remained in America,

What n-ss all the same animals. You can’t do this with younger partners. Can you imagine how the toad will strangle all the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine due to the fact that such a lot of money slipped by? So it is not far from massive heart attacks.

[Roman1970_1]

Mark VI patrol boats will be supplied to Ukraine at the expense of funds allocated as American military assistance to Ukraine.

Read only the title?

[Smolin]

Yes, and why do they need so many boats? Bearing virtually no weapons.

Ukraine is deeply concerned that the DPR may have landed in the area from Mariupol to Berdyansk, thereby creating a bridgehead for the land corridor in Crimea
(The DNI already has a flotilla of boats converted from high-speed fishing boats.)

And who will give the money to buy ???

US allocates $ 250 million for military assistance to Ukraine
Separately registered there is help from the Navy, perhaps these boats will be included in this assistance.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ANIMAL

And who will give the money to buy ??? Ukraine can hardly afford to spend $ 600 million from the budget

Yes, everything is always in debt, as Earlier it was reported that the delivery of Mark VI patrol boats to Ukraine will occur at the expense of funds allocated as American military assistance to Ukraine.
Shtatniks just do not give anything.

[Avior]

completely cover the need for patrol boats for border guards and other things.

[Mountain shooter]

Will the Kerch fishermen try to troll? Or just so that the provocateurs do not end quickly? The boats are not marine. Well, as always ... they will not give money. At the expense of help, from one pocket to another.

[donavi49]

The boat can be equipped with remotely controlled 25 mm M242 Bushmaster automatic guns, as well as 7,62 and 12,7 mm machine guns.

There are 2 cannons 30x173 Mk 44 Bushmaster for the boat - 30-mm automatic guns Mk 44 Bushmaster II (a total of 40 guns, including eight spare).

In general, the supplied weapons and equipment:
2 remotely controlled artillery mounts MSI Seahawk A2 with Mk 44 Bushmaster II
stabilized multi-mode optical station with a thermal imaging channel
LRAD installation - long-range acoustic device, as a non-lethal weapon

[Olddetractor]

Quote: Doccor18

As a result, aid was allocated, the US military-industrial complex with the order, the money remained in America, and Ukraine will receive 16 aluminum bunkers with machine guns

And the containment of peace and security on the Sea of ​​Azov will begin in full accordance with the American concept of mutually guaranteed destruction

[mark1]

Nice boats, a couple of "Neptuns" to set up and annoy at the bridge and platforms. It is necessary to drive them by aviation, patrol, again, screen-planes for catch-ups can be.
Technical characteristics of patrol boats Mark VI:
Displacement, t: 65;
Length, m: 25;
Width, m: 6,7;
Draft, m: 1,2;
Crew: 10 + 8 passengers;
Armament: 2 x 25-mm gun mounts Rafael Mk. 38 x 6 mm M12,7 machine guns;
Engine power, l s .: 5200;
Carrying capacity, t: 5;
Speed, knots: cruising - 35, maximum - 41;
Operational range, miles: 600 (at a speed of 30 knots)

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

What are Neptune and ekranoplan? What are you talking about?

Firstly, Ukraine is well aware that after the first launch of Neptune in the direction of Russia, it will have huge problems that will come out to them in such a side that many could not even dream of. Even now they already have the opportunity to attack targets from their shore targets at ranges of more than 200 km, but they are in no hurry to shoot either Sevastopol or the Crimean bridge.

Secondly, collective farm Neptune on a patrol boat is unlikely to come out purely from a technical point of view. This is a high-speed boat and small enough; bridging bulky equipment on it is fraught. Another point that the United States most likely will not be allowed to do this.

The road ride, burn diesel fuel, they are not a threat to us. They will arrange a provocation - ours will shoot, we already have experience in fighting Ukrainian boats.

[mark1]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

that after the first launch of Neptune in the direction of Russia, it will have huge problems

Did I say about launches?

bored by the bridge and platforms.

Believe me, he drinks blood, because any threat (even the imaginary one) requires an adequate response

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Secondly, collective farm Neptune on a patrol boat is unlikely to come out purely from a technical point of view.

Project 183 Standard V.I. 68 t
armament 2xP15 (2,5 tons each) so that 4 Neptunas can be "collective farm"

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Another point that the United States most likely will not allow to do this.

Did they tell you this?
And it is more economically profitable to drive all this "Tyulkin fleet" with ekranoplanes (a militarized civilian version at worst), and not with basic patrol aircraft.

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

The road ride, burn diesel fuel, they are not a threat to us. They will arrange a provocation - ours will shoot, we already have experience in fighting Ukrainian boats.

You are a great specialist. in throwing hats and dancing with sabers. An egg is dear to Christ's day. Some "provocations" can cost more than all 16 sunken troughs.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mark1

And it is more economically profitable to drive all this "Tyulkin fleet" with ekranoplanes

It is economically more profitable not to touch the "tyulkin fleet" at all, let them catch hamsa and sprat for themselves, but at the bazaar they sell them to people for joy.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The boat pr.183RE was originally made as a missile, taking as a basis the base of a torpedo boat, and did not remake the patrol boat for firing missiles.

And what is the need to put rockets on a boat? With such missiles, everything in the Black Sea can be got from the shore.

For Ukraine, launching such a missile against Russian targets would be suicide.

But they can arrange a provocation and pass under the Crimean bridge at such boats at speed. Therefore, one must be prepared for this in order to stop them, including with the use of weapons.

[alexmach]

And it is more economically profitable to drive all this "Tyulkin fleet" with ekranoplanes (a militarized civilian version at worst), and not with basic patrol aircraft.

I agree with everything, Except for ekranoplanes. In all other respects, the approach is very robust. Another rocket needs a manageable but simpler X-35.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Firstly, Ukraine is well aware that after the first launch of Neptune in the direction of Russia, it will have huge problems

There will be no problems with either the Neptunes or the boats. For they will simply be destroyed.

[mark1]

Quote: tihonmarine

Ukraine is well aware

But you seem not, you are fascinated by the process of altercation. For sim

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mark1

But you seem not,

And what is there to understand. I understand what Russia is and what Ukraine is. It’s also like walking a bear with a horn.

[zwlad]

They need to be driven by aviation, patrol, again, screenplanes for catch-ups are possible.

Yes, let yourself get bored. Just keep an eye on them, as soon as the border has been crossed immediately cover in one gulp. After the first drown, others will never poke around.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mark1

Good boats

Not bad, I’d take a couple of them, ride tourists on the Gulf of Riga.

[Avior]

Americans will definitely sell NATO ally
True, their prices are not cheap.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

Americans will definitely sell NATO ally
True, their prices are not cheap.

I’m talking about it, they’ll sell it to us cheaper, they’ll rip off three skins from the stackers.

[Avior]

These boats for american money
Let them take at least 3 skins, who cares.
They cost nothing to Ukraine.

[cniza]

Quote: Avior

They cost nothing to Ukraine.

Unfortunately, the United States will rip off for these not cheap boats, three skins from Ukraine, but in a different place, and Ukraine will pay for delivery.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

They cost nothing to Ukraine.

No matter how it is, this is from the help allocated by the United States for Ukraine, but you still have to give it back, the help is not gratuitous. The staff members give nothing to anyone for free.

[mark1]

I agree with you. The first thing that came to mind.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: mark1

Good boats

Cons put to you, apparently, for these words ...
Condolences ...
From me "+", because you need to know the enemy, but you do not know - to study.
It’s pointless to scold the enemy, he must be defeated!

[Say Tooth]

Why did you decide that 35 knots is the cruising speed of the boats?

[mark1]

I didn’t decide what, I just downloaded TTH and I’m not going to defend them, not to refute them. Do you possess knowledge?

[Tatyana Sementsova]

The main thing is that the public would immediately be officially informed about the number of toilets !!!! And then later, when they will pick up their own boats, they will again howl !!!!

[gabonskijfront]

For the Sea of ​​Azov, this is a force, not in a military sense (it won’t be a squadron battle), but as a patrol, search, detention, provocation it’s a wonderful boat. Maybe it’s better not to let them through the Kerch Strait? Well, let's say under the pretext of quarantine from coronovirus.

[Cyril G ...]

How do you not let them go if it is transported on a trailer on public roads?

[Avior]

I don’t think they can’t be transported dry
60 tons, 25 meters, part of the equipment separately is clearly possible.
the distance is small.

[Herman 4223]

With this money, it would be more reasonable for them to buy four modern fighter jets. But I have almost no doubts what they will buy, is it possible to refuse such help only 600 lyam greens. They wanted to get lace panties.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Not a weak gift for 16 boats for 600 million dollars.

This money would be enough to build a frigate pr.22350 or two corvettes pr.20380.

We have the Raptor closest to these boats.

[Avior]

and then what to do with this frigate? Admirals abroad to ride exercises? what will one frigate give? Nothing.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I did not offer Ukraine to demand a frigate as a gift instead of boats, I only compared the amount of money allocated from the USA to Ukraine. It is impressive how much the United States invests in Ukraine to pump its decrepit muscles.

Ukraine may not need a frigate for now, but they need corvettes and probably soon they will start building them or will also receive a gift.

Nobody is a threat to the Black Sea, but now we can expect from Ukraine a speedy breakthrough from the Sea of ​​Azov to the Black Sea. Such boats are very fast, blocking their passage will be very difficult for less maneuverable ships and boats.

In order to prevent Ukraine’s provocation, it’s already necessary to shoot, and one must be prepared for this both technically and morally.

[Avior]

16 pieces is just to cover the entire coast.
in addition, they write that they can launch UAVs and underwater uninhabited vehicles for mine clearance, as I understand it.
I honestly do not see the need for corvettes. But these are the subtleties of terminology.
RK are needed and the IPC with at least minimal air defense.
All the same, they can act only at the very shore.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I honestly do not see the need for corvettes.

RK are needed and the IPC with at least minimal air defense.

RK and MPK with minimal air defense will not repel a missile attack, the corvette has many times more chances for this.

Corvettes would greatly enhance the prestige of Ukraine and the fighting spirit of the army and navy. These are serious ships.

launch UAVs and underwater uninhabited vehicles, for mine clearance, as I understand it.

And how will the UAV land on this boat? And I think everything is no better there either, for this you still need serious equipment, minesweepers "Alexandrite", for example, 800 tons of displacement.

[Avior]

RK and MPK with minimal air defense will not repel a missile attack, the corvette has many times more chances for this.

without a cover from the coast from the air, neither one nor the other has chances.
But the corvette is much more expensive, it is multi-purpose.
I’m simpler than 2 separate ones, big autonomy is not needed after all, everywhere the inhabited coast is near to replenish supplies.
EW should stand and air defense for 10-20 kilometers at least.

And how will the UAV land on this boat?

Quadroopter, perhaps.
it's Americans so they write about their capabilities
it will not be a full minesweeper, but the area is specific.

Corvettes would greatly enhance the prestige of Ukraine and the fighting spirit of the army and navy. These are serious ships.

you are right, only really they will not give anything against Russia.
But Ukrainians have no other opponent.

[Avior]

Good modern border boats, just for the Azov and coastal regions of the Black Sea.
Neptunes will most likely not put them on them, but they are quite suitable for stopping, searching and detaining civil courts.

Yes, and an attempt to land a reconnaissance group or sabotage, or even a small secretive landing may well hinder, besides, they themselves can land a group, they stuffed weapons on boats with a reserve, why did the Americans need this for a patrol boat?
Neptunes may bet on Iceland.
They have a permissible weapon weight of about 10 tons, Neptune about 900 kg, plus a launcher, plus, possibly, a fire control radar.
Altogether 4 pieces can stick.

[rotmistr60]

16 modern Mark VI patrol boats and related weapons. The total estimated cost of all this is $ 600 million.

The main thing here is not the number of boats, but the American one - "we are with you in the fight against Russia," so act and act boldly. For us, of course, the threat is not great, but it cannot be ignored either.

[cniza]

For the Sea of ​​Azov this is by no means small, but especially in their hands ...

[seregin-s1]

600 million, this is 37,5 per boat. in rubles at about 2,625 billion. Ukraine is a very rich country!)))

[Avior]

Rather, the States. They pay the same.

[seregin-s1]

Have you read the headline? These are new boats. They still need to be built. Help from the warehouses is coming.

[cniza]

Until it is reported what kind of boats they will be, new ones or the USA will be updated, but they are still 4 year olds no more, wait and see.

[Cowbra]

Even let them buy patrol cars for the police, then the Russian Federation, in horror at their military power, will shoot Poseidon in the head) It makes such a puffy cheek. As if the face along the smile did not crack

[avia12005]

Sarcasm and chuckles are completely out of place here. And turning a blind eye to the activation of the Armed Forces in the Azov is generally stupidity and myopia.

[Nastia makarova]

yeah they scared Russia

[avia12005]

Underestimating a potential adversary is criminal, Madame.

[Nastia makarova]

why immediately underestimation? they and so if there is a dangerous weapon to which they can cause damage, this is just a PR campaign

[avia12005]

If you stir up something with these boats, you will not answer nuclear weapons.

[Nastia makarova]

normal is enough for them

[Herman 4223]

There are definitely no boats. Most of the people will not be aware of this at all.

[cniza]

Quote: avia12005

Sarcasm and chuckles are completely out of place here. And turning a blind eye to the activation of the Armed Forces in the Azov is generally stupidity and myopia.

It is very close there, and these 16 boats, if they arrive, will not make free space, but they can break firewood.

[avia12005]

So I'm talking about the same thing. As a technique for provocations, that’s it.

[cniza]

Yeah, and in their minds all possible variants of dirty tricks are already hatched.

[avia12005]

Bandera tactics at sea - that’s why these pelvis with guns.

[cniza]

Unfortunately, but their owner is right, too, knows this well and understands how all this will work.

[L-39NG]

A little addition. As weapons, machine guns with a rotating barrel block M134 Minigun and grenade launchers Mk 19 can also be installed. Change of weapons is carried out quickly, in accordance with the task. In addition, Mark VI can deliver to the destination 8 paratroopers (border guards, inspectors, scouts, saboteurs) in full gear and support their return to the deck.

[cniza]

The 26-meter Mark VI aluminum boats are operated by the US Navy Coastal River Force.

Apparently they decided to upgrade or replace it with another class, they are not old at all and the United States would not give them just like that.

[Avior]

They are completely new, not bu
This is a modern type of boat

[cniza]

Well, it’s not you yet, I don’t know, I’m just arguing that maybe the United States wants to replace them at home and I don’t think it’s just that. There is also great doubt that the United States will release new ones especially for Ukraine, it may still be the failures of other countries or the same US Coast Guard.

[Avior]

They have been in service in the States only since 2016, there is nothing to replace, they are all new.
These are the latest boats, only - only adopted

[cniza]

I read it all ..., I know for sure that the USA just doesn’t do anything, we’ll find out soon.

[Avior]

I think it would be more correct for you to write the word "believe" instead of "know"
Wait and see

[cniza]

I believe this for God, and the United States is Satan in the flesh, so I know his habits.

[Tom Johnson]

https://en.topwar.ru/152281-snarjad-s-programmiruemym-vzryvatelem-orbital-atk-northrop-grumman-mk-310-pabm-t-ssha.html

boat has two chain guns, barrel up to 25,000 rounds for replacement and 13,000 rounds to expected fault ..... they can see you at 25,000 feet and can shoot you at 4500 meters and @ 2500 meters 1100 MPS. and the rounds can be SABOT

[captain]

Whatever the patriots would write in the comments, this news is not very good for Russia. We will have to give an adequate answer, and this is an extra waste of money and material resources from the budget of Russia. Pouring combustible tears is certainly not worth it, but we will have to cut back on some programs.

[Fitter65]

Quote: captain

We will have to give an adequate answer, and this is an extra waste of money and material resources from the budget of Russia. Pouring combustible tears is certainly not worth it, but we will have to cut back on some programs.

You know, I would cut the "DNA" program on NTV, well, and definitely "Dom-2" this program should be cut for a long time ... True, this is hardly due to 16 oversized motor boats that have not yet been bought with a machine gun, and "such" programs to close. Well, it will be supplemented with one more picture "reference book of probable targets and targets" for the commanders of the Black Sea Fleet ships. Well, another Azatz, a large Mk-VI boat, will be introduced into the process of combat training, from what distances and angles it is observed, how it is catching up, what is amazed ... well, and other at the BP rate. But for Ukraine, yes, this is a problem. First of all; how many admirals will be required for this "great armada". And the Second, and where to get so many of them?

[Avior]

A boat with a machine gun, even two, is a Centaur.
And these can have up to three guns, a Griffin launcher, a grenade launcher, up to 6 machine guns and other options.
For its size, it is armed very well, more than.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Avior

And these can have up to three guns, a Griffin launcher, a grenade launcher, up to 6 machine guns and other options.

Perhaps it does not mean what will happen, firstly you need to find money to buy. Secondly, to train the crews, and to get a penny in order to bring them through the "sea-okiyan" ... Three guns grenade launcher, 6 machine guns, straight mini "Yamato", or a dwarf "Missouri"

[petrol cutter]

Money will lend. Do not be so kind as to slip in.
And they will bring and teach. Didn't the story with the "Islands" of the first delivery show anything? !!!.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Petrol cutter

Didn't the story with the "Islands" of the first delivery show anything? !!!.

And what did the story of the Islands show? Was the Black Sea Fleet locked in its ports and harbors? No! All movements in the Black Sea only with the permission of the Ukrainian Navy? Also no! What did these deliveries show? Just that for not frail grandmothers vparivany painted Aboriginal painted metal, instead of beads and mirrors, that's all.

[petrol cutter]

Clear. I have no more questions.

[DeKo]

All. Kayuk to the Black Sea Fleet of Russia

[DeKo]

A couple of years ago, the Military Revue, in Americanism, devoted a whole program about these boats. From which it followed that this is a very unsuccessful development of the United States. They tried to fuse allies. But those, it turned out, were smart. So they got into Ukraine

[Fitter65]

The US Department of State authorized the sale to Ukraine under the Foreign Military Sale (FMS) program of 16 modern Mark VI patrol boats and related weapons. The total estimated cost of all this is $ 600 million.

How is it allowed to sell? What do they want to say that Ukraine protecting the entire civilized world from Russian aggression still needs to buy weapons to fight world evil? !!!! What, just could not take and give? !!!

[fa2998]

Quote: KCA

I doubt that 404 will have enough money

The title of the article is somewhat inaccurate! Calling a "sale" to Ukraine - give it as a gift! Boats are modern, and the number is solid. In shallow water and rivers, the Ukrainian Navy will be significantly strengthened. It would be good if the boats did not reach Ukraine, there are plenty of authorities, you can "press" somewhere, and bury the deal.

[Oleg Olkha]

Nice modern boat. In the originals (and not from Ukrainian resources), the maximum speed is 45 knots. Israeli optoelectronic art. Typhoon systems, by Rafael, are replaced with something else, which of course is not supposed to ... For some reason, it is not mentioned about the possibility of equipping boats with high-precision AGM-176 Griffin or Hellfire missiles, in "sea" performance and application, indicated in the English-language originals ...

[TAMBU]

the danger lies in the diversion of forces at the key moment. and for this, such "water jackals" are perfect ...

[Ros 56]

The turntables from these boats will leave aluminum rags.

[Tutashkhia date]

M-yes-ah-ah, this time really everything. That's it, the end. Krants to the Red Banner Black Sea Fleet, its flagship cruiser Moskva, its frigates and submarines with Caliber. All. This is an absolutely complete end. as well as the end of the Russian Crimea. It's time to start preparing for the adoption of Ukrainian citizenship and remember the "native Mova". Everything, boys, everything. "America is with us!"

[petrol cutter]

Krants / not krants. But this is not a couple of makeshift katerki.
And all this "cavalry" will be able to drink blood.
So the Black Sea Fleet will soon become very "awake"! ..

[Lara Croft]

16 modern Mark VI patrol boats and related weapons

This is a force for the Sea of ​​Azov ...
It is more profitable for Americans to keep such boats on the other side of the Crimean Peninsula, where they have the WB near Ochakov, full-fledged ports of Odessa and Nikolaev that are not closed from anything ...

[petrol cutter]

And I'm tired of talking already. No need to consider Ukraine as a kind of weak-minded and weak relative.
Small by small and form a grouping at sea.
After all, a chicken pecks a grain.

[Kuzmitsky]

Yes, relax you. They are not going to attack Russia. But it’s easy to do some muck to create the DNI on the coast - in Novoazovsk or Sedovo. Or fishermen to have a nightmare. Of course, if these boats are presented to them, they can change their mind.

[petrol cutter]

You really do not understand the scale of the problem of strengthening the UA fleet?! ..
I live in Crimea, Primorsky. I work at a shipyard and have some idea of ​​a war at sea.
You should be aware that no one has considered the peninsula to belong to the Russian Federation ?!
That is, UA- considers it to be his own, tervody accordingly.
And if you officially drown at least one of their motor boats under a pennant (and they become more and more to my deep regret). That it will be regarded as an act of fierce aggression against a neighboring state and the declaration of war (possibly) to him. Can you imagine the consequences ?! And the brothers will be a specialist walking and creating provocations in full.
Do not be so kind as to get involved in this.

[faterdom]

As they like to say in Vladivostok: "Mark must be taken! Right-hand drive!"

[Pavel57]

"Leninskaya Kuznitsa" can no longer make boats?

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Cyril G ...

In fact, these are boats for a coastal war, and it’s quite combat, our border boats carry significantly lighter weapons .... Mosquito forces for the coastal war have been taken root. There are five heels of 50-year-old armored vehicles pr. 1204.

Only if you call the aircraft.

in principle, border patrol boats and should not fight ..... this is not their purpose and essence

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Petrol cutter

You really do not understand the scale of the problem of strengthening the UA fleet?! ..
I live in Crimea, Primorsky. I work at a shipyard and have some idea of ​​a war at sea.
You should be aware that no one has considered the peninsula to belong to the Russian Federation ?!
That is, UA- considers it to be his own, tervody accordingly.
And if you officially drown at least one of their motor boats under a pennant (and they become more and more to my deep regret). That it will be regarded as an act of fierce aggression against a neighboring state and the declaration of war (possibly) to him. Can you imagine the consequences ?! And the brothers will be a specialist walking and creating provocations in full.
Do not be so kind as to get involved in this.

and what are the consequences? will start shouting loudly at "the whole world" and wring their hands?!?!?!

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Not a weak gift for 16 boats for 600 million dollars.

This money would be enough to build a frigate pr.22350 or two corvettes pr.20380.

We have the Raptor closest to these boats.

Ukrainian corvette "V.V" project 58250 costs 280 million dollars in the region

[Tom Johnson]

Dual Mark 46 30 mm Chain guns, 2 remote controled .50 caliber and two man crewed .50 caliber. Seating for 20 and twice as big and more powerful than Russian RAPTOR.

[Tom Johnson]

https://en.topwar.ru/152281-snarjad-s-programmiruemym-vzryvatelem-orbital-atk-northrop-grumman-mk-310-pabm-t-ssha.html

TWO GUNS - as well as 2 remote operated and 2 crew .50 Caliber