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The United States approved the sale of 16 Mark VI boats to Ukraine

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The US Department of State authorized the sale to Ukraine under the Foreign Military Sale (FMS) program of 16 modern Mark VI patrol boats and related weapons. The total estimated cost of all this is $ 600 million.


The announcement of a future deal was released June 17 by the US Department of Defense Agency for Security Co-operation (DSCA). It informed Congress of the possibility of such a sale, which should have been done according to the requirements of American law.

The permission of the State Department does not mean that the transaction will take place, since it is only an intermediate step to making a final decision.

Earlier it was reported that the delivery of Mark VI patrol boats to Ukraine will occur at the expense of funds allocated as American military assistance to Ukraine.

The Ukrainian Navy plans to deploy a division of these boats on the Sea of ​​Azov.

The 26-meter Mark VI aluminum boats are operated by the US Navy Coastal River Force. They are also in service with a number of other countries.


The Mark VI propulsion system of two diesel engines with water jets provides a speed of 35 knots and a short-term maximum speed of 41 knots. Cruising range at a speed of 30 knots is about 600 miles.

The boat can be equipped with remotely controlled 25 mm M242 Bushmaster automatic guns, as well as 7,62 and 12,7 mm machine guns.

These patrol boats, unlike the previously purchased Island by Ukraine, are unlikely to be decommissioned, as they appeared on the arsenal of the U.S. Navy relatively recently, in 2016.
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  1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 18 June 2020 09: 30 New
    0
    Let them just try to shove us.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 18 June 2020 09: 32 New
      +9
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      Let them just try to shove us.

      Border boats are not rocket frigates for you. Where can they poke around?
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 18 June 2020 09: 41 New
        +9
        Anything can be expected from the command of the border service of Ukraine.
      2. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 18 June 2020 09: 44 New
        -6
        In fact, these are boats for a coastal war, and it’s quite combat, our border boats carry significantly lighter weapons .... Mosquito forces for the coastal war have been taken root. There are five heels of 50-year-old armored vehicles pr. 1204.

        Only if you call the aircraft.
        1. KCA
          KCA 18 June 2020 10: 08 New
          10
          Aluminum combat boat? One incendiary bullet with thermite mixture and what will happen to him? Drug patrol boats to drive
          1. x.andvlad
            x.andvlad 18 June 2020 11: 42 New
            +2
            Its main advantage is speed, as well as good weapons. Very suitable for provocations.
            1. KCA
              KCA 18 June 2020 12: 31 New
              +3
              Weapons are put to order, I doubt that 404 will have enough money for weapons, they will put a couple of their CPV and that's it
              1. x.andvlad
                x.andvlad 18 June 2020 12: 58 New
                +1
                I do not think that they will have a problem with their weapons. They make their combat modules with automatic guns.
        2. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 18 June 2020 11: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          In fact, these are boats for coastal warfare, and that’s what’s quite combat,

          We have an answer to them - PC 22160 with its maximum speed of 25 knots. laughing
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 18 June 2020 13: 04 New
            +2
            We have Project 03160 patrol boats with a maximum speed of 48 knots.
            1. Elephant
              Elephant 18 June 2020 15: 59 New
              +1
              Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
              We have Project 03160 patrol boats with a maximum speed of 48 knots.

              And with raptor weapons: the combat module "Urava-KORD" caliber 14,5 mm, 2x7,62 mm machine gun "Pecheneg" on swivel mounts. )))
        3. PROXOR
          PROXOR 18 June 2020 13: 02 New
          +1
          Exactly. Helicopters can easily work and will be abruptly arsenal.
        4. Yarhann
          Yarhann 18 June 2020 21: 24 New
          +1
          Developed countries have aviation and helicopters - why the hell is the armored boat, what the hell is the mosquito fleet - a couple of Mi28 missiles, and this bucket cost from Apache will go to the bottom. Honestly, one must not be smart to buy such junk for such loot. It was possible to buy ordinary boats one and a half destyaika for 2-3 llama apiece 30-40 lyam, a crew with Kalash on them, and in reinforcement for each boat to buy drone UAVs of strike (type ripper) for one complex (3 UAV + control) for 550 lyam. The trolka would be many times more - just at sea.
          1. The popuas
            The popuas 18 June 2020 21: 48 New
            0
            The fact is that Ukraine does not buy them! The United States gives them as part of the assistance allocated from the budget of the United States itself; i.e., from the budget, someone feeds for $ 700 million hi And so this is pure water the cost of recycling data "ships" in the states! wink so the Yankees have everything plus, plus the same as pulling us ...
      3. stalki
        stalki 18 June 2020 09: 49 New
        +9
        Border boats are not rocket frigates for you. Where can they poke around?

        Well, stuck on their own pimped. And on these, we’ll be honest, worthy of patrol cars, Bender’s arrogance will increase. Though small, but far from obsolete. I wonder in what configuration they can get them.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 18 June 2020 10: 16 New
          0
          Quote: stalki
          Well, stuck on their own pimped. And on these, we’ll be honest, worthy of patrol cars, Bender’s arrogance will increase.

          You can foolishly poke around, as well as onto tanks with a bottle of champagne.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 18 June 2020 12: 05 New
            +3
            Quote: tihonmarine
            You can foolishly poke around

            They have enough intelligence, especially if the Washington Regional Committee sets such a task.
      4. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 18 June 2020 10: 05 New
        +7
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Where can they poke around?

        These are not brothers! request Therefore, a lot of options.
      5. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 June 2020 10: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Border boats are not rocket frigates for you. Where can they poke around?

        Poachers to catch.
      6. ancient
        ancient 18 June 2020 11: 01 New
        +5
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Where can they poke around?

        "Piratesvo" .. this is a business card .. "horses" ...... they don’t give a neck, so they’re unlimited ...... all merchant ships sailing along the Sea of ​​Azov can be subjected ... "to everything that they will come to mind. "
        How many of our ships are already in full ... and how many were given ... correctly ..0.
        That's all .. "tale" recourse
      7. svp67
        svp67 18 June 2020 11: 03 New
        +9
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Where can they poke around?

        Well, judging by their proposed location, then to the Kerch bridge. In any case, the appearance of these boats in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov, even in the amount of ten pennants, can for some time outweigh the “BOWL OF SCALES" "on the side of the Navy. And most importantly, this will create a strong threat to our fishermen from the Crimea (remember" NORD ") and Kerch That is, now our side is obliged to take countermeasures, in the form of building up its naval group in this water area and the aviation group, especially combat helicopters.
        1. stalki
          stalki 18 June 2020 11: 54 New
          +5
          Well, judging by their proposed location, then to the Kerch bridge. In any case, the appearance of these boats in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov, even in the amount of ten pennants, can for some time outweigh the “BOWL OF SCALES" "on the side of the Navy. And most importantly, this will create a strong threat to our fishermen from the Crimea (remember" NORD ") and Kerch That is, now our side is obliged to take countermeasures, in the form of building up its naval group in this water area and the aviation group, especially combat helicopters.

          Something I did not understand why you were minuscule, objectively assessed, the strange people went. They love to engage in self-deception.
          1. svp67
            svp67 18 June 2020 11: 59 New
            +4
            Quote: stalki
            They love to engage in self-deception.

            Well, here not only "ours", there are "theirs" wink
            1. stalki
              stalki 18 June 2020 12: 05 New
              +4
              Moreover, minus when they are there for joy to jump to the moon should request it's us a little byak. In short, I don’t quite understand what level of development some commentators are here, apparently not even with zero, but with negative belay
        2. shark
          shark 18 June 2020 12: 09 New
          +3
          For me, it's time to think about re-creating the Azov Flotilla. Its purpose, I see, is the protection of the state border, the protection of fishing in the Sea of ​​Azov. The ship's composition is just not clear. The raptors are great boats. But armed are undeniably lighter than these Marks. I would have looked at Soviet projects of small hovercraft.
          1. svp67
            svp67 18 June 2020 12: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: shark
            For me, it's time to think about re-creating the Azov Flotilla.

            1000% agree. It's time to think about it, as well as designing and equipping it with decent ships. In the end, near Crimea, Taganrog ... there are places where you can create high-speed warships with high speed and not only KVP, but also on hydrofoils, just now new hydrofoil civilian vessels begin to appear on our rivers and seas. And of course, appropriately armed, so that they could fight back, if necessary
          2. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 18 June 2020 12: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: shark
            small hovercraft.


            Not worth it. But to reorganize the border forces in Azov by the creation of the Azov border fleet (otherwise we have "At seven nannies ......................." TS), with its corresponding strengthening ships and boats
      8. Elephant
        Elephant 18 June 2020 15: 23 New
        0
        It is written for the Sea of ​​Azov. I note that rocket frigates in this shallow water area have nothing to do.
      9. Elephant
        Elephant 18 June 2020 15: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        It is written for the Sea of ​​Azov. I note that rocket frigates in this shallow water area have nothing to do.

        It is written for the Sea of ​​Azov. I note that rocket frigates in this shallow water area have nothing to do.
    2. Civil
      Civil 18 June 2020 09: 54 New
      +5
      26 meter aluminum boats Mark VI in operation

      Luminium? To the Ukrainian army? Yes you are joking lol
      1. KCA
        KCA 18 June 2020 10: 13 New
        +3
        In the evening 26m, in the morning 25m length ...
      2. zwlad
        zwlad 18 June 2020 10: 37 New
        +2
        Do you think they will hand over scrap right away?
    3. antivirus
      antivirus 18 June 2020 12: 46 New
      +1
      Does Deripaska reveal aluminum in the USA? - well done
  2. WILL
    WILL 18 June 2020 09: 31 New
    -6
    And who will give the money to buy ??? Ukraine can hardly afford to spend $ 600 million from the budget ...
    Yes, and why do they need so many boats? Bearing virtually no weapons.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 18 June 2020 09: 35 New
      10
      Delivery to Ukraine of Mark VI patrol boats will be occur at the expense of funds allocated as American military assistance to Ukraine.
      1. WILL
        WILL 18 June 2020 09: 43 New
        +2
        I see ... It's like Younger schoolchildren, you can give money to buy Apple or Juice in the school cafeteria, but - it’s better not to risk it and immediately give yourself This same Apple or Juice ... so that the money does not go to soda of unknown origin! winked
    2. Doccor18
      Doccor18 18 June 2020 09: 36 New
      +7
      The Americans allotted the help that was independent, then they will build boats for the same help at home and give them to the Ukrainians. As a result, aid was allocated, the US military-industrial complex with an order, the money remained in America, and Ukraine will receive 16 aluminum bunkers with machine guns.
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 18 June 2020 14: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: Doccor18
        As a result, aid was allocated, the US military-industrial complex with an order, the money remained in America,

        What n-ss all the same animals. You can’t do this with younger partners. Can you imagine how the toad will strangle all the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine due to the fact that such a lot of money slipped by? So it is not far from massive heart attacks.
    3. Roman1970_1
      Roman1970_1 18 June 2020 09: 39 New
      +5
      Mark VI patrol boats will be supplied to Ukraine at the expense of funds allocated as American military assistance to Ukraine.

      Read only the title?
    4. Smolin
      Smolin 18 June 2020 10: 00 New
      +1
      Yes, and why do they need so many boats? Bearing virtually no weapons.

      Ukraine is deeply concerned that the DPR may have landed in the area from Mariupol to Berdyansk, thereby creating a bridgehead for the land corridor in Crimea
      (The DNI already has a flotilla of boats converted from high-speed fishing boats.)
      And who will give the money to buy ???

      US allocates $ 250 million for military assistance to Ukraine
      Separately registered there is help from the Navy, perhaps these boats will be included in this assistance.
    5. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 June 2020 10: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: ANIMAL
      And who will give the money to buy ??? Ukraine can hardly afford to spend $ 600 million from the budget

      Yes, everything is always in debt, as Earlier it was reported that the delivery of Mark VI patrol boats to Ukraine will occur at the expense of funds allocated as American military assistance to Ukraine.
      Shtatniks just do not give anything.
    6. Avior
      Avior 18 June 2020 10: 33 New
      0
      completely cover the need for patrol boats for border guards and other things.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 June 2020 09: 37 New
    -1
    Will the Kerch fishermen try to troll? Or just so that the provocateurs do not end quickly? The boats are not marine. Well, as always ... they will not give money. At the expense of help, from one pocket to another.
  4. donavi49
    donavi49 18 June 2020 09: 39 New
    10
    The boat can be equipped with remotely controlled 25 mm M242 Bushmaster automatic guns, as well as 7,62 and 12,7 mm machine guns.


    There are 2 cannons 30x173 Mk 44 Bushmaster for the boat - 30-mm automatic guns Mk 44 Bushmaster II (a total of 40 guns, including eight spare).

    In general, the supplied weapons and equipment:
    2 remotely controlled artillery mounts MSI Seahawk A2 with Mk 44 Bushmaster II
    stabilized multi-mode optical station with a thermal imaging channel
    LRAD installation - long-range acoustic device, as a non-lethal weapon
  5. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 18 June 2020 09: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Doccor18
    As a result, aid was allocated, the US military-industrial complex with the order, the money remained in America, and Ukraine will receive 16 aluminum bunkers with machine guns

    And the containment of peace and security on the Sea of ​​Azov will begin in full accordance with the American concept of mutually guaranteed destruction
  6. mark1
    mark1 18 June 2020 09: 49 New
    -2
    Good boats, a couple of "Neptunes" to install and annoy at the bridge and platforms. They need to be driven by aviation, patrol, again, screenplanes for catch-ups are possible.
    Technical characteristics of patrol boats Mark VI:
    Displacement, t: 65;
    Length, m: 25;
    Width, m: 6,7;
    Draft, m: 1,2;
    Crew: 10 + 8 passengers;
    Armament: 2 x 25-mm gun mounts Rafael Mk. 38 x 6 mm M12,7 machine guns;
    Engine power, l s .: 5200;
    Carrying capacity, t: 5;
    Speed, knots: cruising - 35, maximum - 41;
    Operational range, miles: 600 (at a speed of 30 knots)
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 18 June 2020 10: 27 New
      +9
      What are Neptune and ekranoplan? What are you talking about?

      Firstly, Ukraine is well aware that after the first launch of Neptune in the direction of Russia, it will have huge problems that will come out to them in such a side that many could not even dream of. Even now they already have the opportunity to attack targets from their shore targets at ranges of more than 200 km, but they are in no hurry to shoot either Sevastopol or the Crimean bridge.

      Secondly, collective farm Neptune on a patrol boat is unlikely to come out purely from a technical point of view. This is a high-speed boat and small enough; bridging bulky equipment on it is fraught. Another point that the United States most likely will not be allowed to do this.

      The road ride, burn diesel fuel, they are not a threat to us. They will arrange a provocation - ours will shoot, we already have experience in fighting Ukrainian boats.
      1. mark1
        mark1 18 June 2020 11: 31 New
        -2
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        that after the first launch of Neptune in the direction of Russia, it will have huge problems

        Did I say about launches?
        bored by the bridge and platforms.
        Believe me, he drinks blood, because any threat (even the imaginary one) requires an adequate response
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Secondly, collective farm Neptune on a patrol boat is unlikely to come out purely from a technical point of view.

        Project 183 Standard V.I. 68 t
        armament 2hP15 (2,5 tons each) so that "collective farm" can be 4 "Neptune"
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Another point that the United States most likely will not allow to do this.

        Did they tell you this? smile
        And to drive this whole “tyulkin fleet” is economically more profitable than ekranoplanes (a militarized civilian version at worst), rather than basic patrol aircraft.
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        The road ride, burn diesel fuel, they are not a threat to us. They will arrange a provocation - ours will shoot, we already have experience in fighting Ukrainian boats.

        You are a big special. by throwing hats and saber dances. Expensive egg for Christ's Day. Some "provocations" may cost more than all 16 sunken troughs.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 18 June 2020 11: 55 New
          0
          Quote: mark1
          And to drive all this "tyulkin fleet" is economically more profitable than ekranoplans

          It is economically more profitable not to touch the “tyulkin fleet” at all, let them catch hamsa and sprats, but sell them to people for joy in the market.
        2. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 18 June 2020 12: 49 New
          +1
          The boat pr.183RE was originally made as a missile, taking as a basis the base of a torpedo boat, and did not remake the patrol boat for firing missiles.

          And what is the need to put rockets on a boat? With such missiles, everything in the Black Sea can be got from the shore.

          For Ukraine, launching such a missile against Russian targets would be suicide.

          But they can arrange a provocation and pass under the Crimean bridge at such boats at speed. Therefore, one must be prepared for this in order to stop them, including with the use of weapons.
        3. alexmach
          alexmach 18 June 2020 13: 35 New
          +1
          And to drive this whole “tyulkin fleet” is economically more profitable than ekranoplanes (a militarized civilian version at worst), rather than basic patrol aircraft.

          I agree with everything, Except for ekranoplanes. In all other respects, the approach is very robust. Another rocket needs a manageable but simpler X-35.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 June 2020 11: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Firstly, Ukraine is well aware that after the first launch of Neptune in the direction of Russia, it will have huge problems

        There will be no problems with either the Neptunes or the boats. For they will simply be destroyed.
        1. mark1
          mark1 18 June 2020 11: 55 New
          -3
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Ukraine is well aware

          But you seem not, you are fascinated by the process of altercation. For sim hi
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 18 June 2020 12: 21 New
            +1
            Quote: mark1
            But you seem not,

            And what is there to understand. I understand what Russia is and what Ukraine is. It’s also like walking a bear with a horn.
    2. zwlad
      zwlad 18 June 2020 10: 41 New
      0
      They need to be driven by aviation, patrol, again, screenplanes for catch-ups are possible.

      Yes, let yourself get bored. Just keep an eye on them, as soon as the border has been crossed immediately cover in one gulp. After the first drown, others will never poke around.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 June 2020 10: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: mark1
      Good boats

      Not bad, I’d take a couple of them, ride tourists on the Gulf of Riga.
      1. Avior
        Avior 18 June 2020 11: 20 New
        0
        Americans will definitely sell NATO ally smile
        True, their prices are not cheap.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 18 June 2020 11: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Avior
          Americans will definitely sell NATO ally
          True, their prices are not cheap.

          I’m talking about it, they’ll sell it to us cheaper, they’ll rip off three skins from the stackers.
          1. Avior
            Avior 18 June 2020 13: 14 New
            -1
            These boats for american money
            Let them take at least 3 skins, who cares.
            They cost nothing to Ukraine.
            1. cniza
              cniza 18 June 2020 13: 48 New
              +2
              Quote: Avior

              They cost nothing to Ukraine.


              Unfortunately, the United States will rip off for these not cheap boats, three skins from Ukraine, but in a different place, and Ukraine will pay for delivery.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 18 June 2020 14: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: Avior
              They cost nothing to Ukraine.

              Whatever the case, this is from the help of the USA allocated for Ukraine, but you still have to give it back, the help is not free. Freeloaders do not give anything to anyone.
      2. mark1
        mark1 18 June 2020 11: 33 New
        0
        I agree with you. The first thing that came to mind.
    4. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 18 June 2020 11: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: mark1
      Good boats

      Cons put to you, apparently, for these words ...
      Condolences ...
      From me "+", because you need to know the enemy, but do not know - to study.
      It’s pointless to scold the enemy, he must be defeated!
    5. Say Tooth
      Say Tooth 18 June 2020 11: 53 New
      +1
      Why did you decide that 35 knots is the cruising speed of the boats?
      1. mark1
        mark1 18 June 2020 11: 58 New
        +2
        I didn’t decide what, I just downloaded TTH and I’m not going to defend them, not to refute them. Do you possess knowledge?
  7. Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 18 June 2020 09: 52 New
    +3
    The main thing is that the public would immediately be officially informed about the number of toilets !!!! And then later, when they will pick up their own boats, they will again howl !!!!
  8. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 18 June 2020 10: 03 New
    +1
    For the Sea of ​​Azov, this is a force, not in a military sense (it won’t be a squadron battle), but as a patrol, search, detention, provocation it’s a wonderful boat. Maybe it’s better not to let them through the Kerch Strait? Well, let's say under the pretext of quarantine from coronovirus.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 18 June 2020 10: 19 New
      +8
      How do you not let them go if it is transported on a trailer on public roads?

    2. Avior
      Avior 18 June 2020 10: 31 New
      -1
      I don’t think they can’t be transported dry
      60 tons, 25 meters, part of the equipment separately is clearly possible.
      the distance is small.
  9. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 18 June 2020 10: 04 New
    +3
    With this money, it would be more reasonable for them to buy four modern fighter jets. But I have almost no doubts what they will buy, is it possible to refuse such help only 600 lyam greens. They wanted to get lace panties.
  10. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 18 June 2020 10: 13 New
    +5
    Not a weak gift for 16 boats for 600 million dollars.

    This money would be enough to build a frigate pr.22350 or two corvettes pr.20380.

    We have the Raptor closest to these boats.
    1. Avior
      Avior 18 June 2020 10: 42 New
      -5
      and then what to do with this frigate? Admirals abroad to ride exercises? what will one frigate give? Nothing.
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 18 June 2020 10: 57 New
        +5
        I did not offer Ukraine to demand a frigate as a gift instead of boats, I only compared the amount of money allocated from the USA to Ukraine. It is impressive how much the United States invests in Ukraine to pump its decrepit muscles.

        Ukraine may not need a frigate for now, but they need corvettes and probably soon they will start building them or will also receive a gift.

        Nobody is a threat to the Black Sea, but now we can expect from Ukraine a speedy breakthrough from the Sea of ​​Azov to the Black Sea. Such boats are very fast, blocking their passage will be very difficult for less maneuverable ships and boats.

        In order to prevent Ukraine’s provocation, it’s already necessary to shoot, and one must be prepared for this both technically and morally.
        1. Avior
          Avior 18 June 2020 11: 03 New
          -3
          16 pieces is just to cover the entire coast.
          in addition, they write that they can launch UAVs and underwater uninhabited vehicles for mine clearance, as I understand it.
          I honestly do not see the need for corvettes. But these are the subtleties of terminology.
          RK are needed and the IPC with at least minimal air defense.
          All the same, they can act only at the very shore.
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 18 June 2020 11: 18 New
            +2
            I honestly do not see the need for corvettes.

            RK are needed and the IPC with at least minimal air defense.


            RK and MPK with minimal air defense will not repel a missile attack, the corvette has many times more chances for this.

            Corvettes would greatly enhance the prestige of Ukraine and the fighting spirit of the army and navy. These are serious ships.

            launch UAVs and underwater uninhabited vehicles, for mine clearance, as I understand it.


            And how will the UAV land on this boat? And with mine, I think it’s not doing any better there either, for this you still need serious equipment, Alexandrite minesweepers, for example, 800 tons of displacement.
            1. Avior
              Avior 18 June 2020 11: 29 New
              -1
              RK and MPK with minimal air defense will not repel a missile attack, the corvette has many times more chances for this.

              without a cover from the coast from the air, neither one nor the other has chances.
              But the corvette is much more expensive, it is multi-purpose.
              I’m simpler than 2 separate ones, big autonomy is not needed after all, everywhere the inhabited coast is near to replenish supplies.
              EW should stand and air defense for 10-20 kilometers at least.
              And how will the UAV land on this boat?

              Quadroopter, perhaps.
              it's Americans so they write about their capabilities
              it will not be a full minesweeper, but the area is specific.
              Corvettes would greatly enhance the prestige of Ukraine and the fighting spirit of the army and navy. These are serious ships.

              you are right, only really they will not give anything against Russia.
              But Ukrainians have no other opponent.
  11. Avior
    Avior 18 June 2020 10: 20 New
    +2
    Good modern border boats, just for the Azov and coastal regions of the Black Sea.
    Neptunes will most likely not put them on them, but they are quite suitable for stopping, searching and detaining civil courts.

    Yes, and an attempt to land a reconnaissance group or sabotage, or even a small secretive landing may well hinder, besides, they themselves can land a group, they stuffed weapons on boats with a reserve, why did the Americans need this for a patrol boat?
    Neptunes may bet on Iceland.
    They have a permissible weapon weight of about 10 tons, Neptune about 900 kg, plus a launcher, plus, possibly, a fire control radar.
    Altogether 4 pieces can stick.
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 June 2020 10: 31 New
    +5
    16 modern Mark VI patrol boats and related weapons. The total estimated cost of all this is $ 600 million.
    The main thing here is not the number of boats, but the American one - "we are in the fight against Russia," so act, act boldly. For us, of course, the threat is not great, but we can’t ignore it.
    1. cniza
      cniza 18 June 2020 13: 42 New
      +1
      For the Sea of ​​Azov this is by no means small, but especially in their hands ...
  13. seregin-s1
    seregin-s1 18 June 2020 10: 39 New
    +1
    600 million, this is 37,5 per boat. in rubles at about 2,625 billion. Ukraine is a very rich country!)))
    1. Avior
      Avior 18 June 2020 10: 51 New
      -4
      Rather, the States. They pay the same.
      1. seregin-s1
        seregin-s1 18 June 2020 12: 32 New
        +1
        Have you read the headline? These are new boats. They still need to be built. Help from the warehouses is coming.
        1. cniza
          cniza 18 June 2020 13: 21 New
          +2
          Until it is reported what kind of boats they will be, new ones or the USA will be updated, but they are still 4 year olds no more, wait and see.
  14. Cowbra
    Cowbra 18 June 2020 10: 58 New
    +2
    Even let them buy patrol cars for the police, then the Russian Federation, in horror at their military power, will shoot Poseidon in the head) It makes such a puffy cheek. As if the face along the smile did not crack
  15. avia12005
    avia12005 18 June 2020 11: 06 New
    +2
    Sarcasm and chuckles are completely out of place here. And turning a blind eye to the activation of the Armed Forces in the Azov is generally stupidity and myopia.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 18 June 2020 11: 23 New
      0
      yeah they scared Russia
      1. avia12005
        avia12005 18 June 2020 11: 44 New
        +4
        Underestimating a potential adversary is criminal, Madame.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 18 June 2020 12: 21 New
          0
          why immediately underestimation? they and so if there is a dangerous weapon to which they can cause damage, this is just a PR campaign
          1. avia12005
            avia12005 18 June 2020 13: 58 New
            -1
            If you stir up something with these boats, you will not answer nuclear weapons.
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 18 June 2020 15: 02 New
              +1
              normal is enough for them
      2. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 18 June 2020 12: 16 New
        0
        There are definitely no boats. Most of the people will not be aware of this at all.
    2. cniza
      cniza 18 June 2020 13: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: avia12005
      Sarcasm and chuckles are completely out of place here. And turning a blind eye to the activation of the Armed Forces in the Azov is generally stupidity and myopia.


      It is very close there, and these 16 boats, if they arrive, will not make free space, but they can break firewood.
      1. avia12005
        avia12005 18 June 2020 13: 56 New
        +3
        So I'm talking about the same thing. As a technique for provocations, that’s it.
        1. cniza
          cniza 18 June 2020 13: 58 New
          +4
          Yeah, and in their minds all possible variants of dirty tricks are already hatched.
          1. avia12005
            avia12005 18 June 2020 15: 41 New
            +1
            Bandera tactics at sea - that’s why these pelvis with guns.
            1. cniza
              cniza 18 June 2020 15: 45 New
              +2
              Unfortunately, but their owner is right, too, knows this well and understands how all this will work.
  16. L-39NG
    L-39NG 18 June 2020 12: 32 New
    +1
    A little addition. As weapons, machine guns with a rotating barrel block M134 Minigun and grenade launchers Mk 19 can also be installed. Change of weapons is carried out quickly, in accordance with the task. In addition, Mark VI can deliver to the destination 8 paratroopers (border guards, inspectors, scouts, saboteurs) in full gear and support their return to the deck.
  17. cniza
    cniza 18 June 2020 12: 55 New
    +2
    The 26-meter Mark VI aluminum boats are operated by the US Navy Coastal River Force.


    Apparently they decided to upgrade or replace it with another class, they are not old at all and the United States would not give them just like that.
    1. Avior
      Avior 18 June 2020 13: 08 New
      -1
      They are completely new, not bu
      This is a modern type of boat
      1. cniza
        cniza 18 June 2020 13: 16 New
        +2
        Well, it’s not you yet, I don’t know, I’m just arguing that maybe the United States wants to replace them at home and I don’t think it’s just that. There is also great doubt that the United States will release new ones especially for Ukraine, it may still be the failures of other countries or the same US Coast Guard.
        1. Avior
          Avior 18 June 2020 13: 20 New
          0
          They have been in service in the States only since 2016, there is nothing to replace, they are all new.
          These are the latest boats, only - only adopted
          1. cniza
            cniza 18 June 2020 13: 25 New
            +3
            I read it all ..., I know for sure that the USA just doesn’t do anything, we’ll find out soon.
            1. Avior
              Avior 18 June 2020 13: 52 New
              -2
              I think it would be more correct for you to write the word “believe” instead of “know” smile
              Wait and see
              1. cniza
                cniza 18 June 2020 13: 55 New
                +2
                I believe this for God, and the United States is Satan in the flesh, so I know his habits. yes
      2. Tom Johnson
        Tom Johnson 22 June 2020 02: 10 New
        +2
        https://en.topwar.ru/152281-snarjad-s-programmiruemym-vzryvatelem-orbital-atk-northrop-grumman-mk-310-pabm-t-ssha.html

        boat has two chain guns, barrel up to 25,000 rounds for replacement and 13,000 rounds to expected fault ..... they can see you at 25,000 feet and can shoot you at 4500 meters and @ 2500 meters 1100 MPS. and the rounds can be SABOT
  18. captain
    captain 18 June 2020 13: 51 New
    +1
    Whatever the patriots would write in the comments, this news is not very good for Russia. We will have to give an adequate answer, and this is an extra waste of money and material resources from the budget of Russia. Pouring combustible tears is certainly not worth it, but we will have to cut back on some programs.
    1. Fitter65
      Fitter65 18 June 2020 14: 44 New
      0
      Quote: captain
      We will have to give an adequate answer, and this is an extra waste of money and material resources from the budget of Russia. Pouring combustible tears is certainly not worth it, but we will have to cut back on some programs.

      You know, I’d cut the DNA program on NTV, and definitely Dom-2, I have to cut this program for a long time ... True, this is unlikely because of 16, by the way, oversized motor boats with a machine gun, and close such programs. lol Well, the “reference book of probable goals and targets” for the commanders of the Black Sea Fleet will be supplemented with another picture. Well, another Azats-large Mk-VI boat will be introduced into the combat training process, from what distances and angles it is observed, how it catches up, what is amazing ... well and other at the rate of BP. But for Ukraine, yes this is some problem. Firstly; how many admirals will be required for this "great armada." And the second, but where to get so many of them? laughing laughing laughing
      1. Avior
        Avior 18 June 2020 15: 51 New
        -1
        A boat with a machine gun, even two, is a Centaur.
        And these can have up to three guns, a Griffin launcher, a grenade launcher, up to 6 machine guns and other options.
        For its size, it is armed very well, more than.
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 18 June 2020 17: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Avior
          And these can have up to three guns, a Griffin launcher, a grenade launcher, up to 6 machine guns and other options.

          Perhaps it does not mean what will happen, firstly, you need to find money to buy. Secondly, in order to train the crews, and to get them penniless so that they could be brought through the “sea-oksiyan” ... Three grenade launcher guns, 6 machine guns, a straight mini “Yamato”, or a dwarf “Missouri” laughing
          1. Petrol cutter
            Petrol cutter 18 June 2020 20: 50 New
            0
            Money will lend. Do not be so kind as to slip in.
            And bring, and teach. Really the story with the “Islands” of the first delivery did not show anything? !!!.
            1. Fitter65
              Fitter65 19 June 2020 00: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: Benzorez
              Really the story with the “Islands” of the first delivery did not show anything? !!!.

              And what did the story of the Islands show? Was the Black Sea Fleet locked in its ports and harbors? No! All movements in the Black Sea only with the permission of the Ukrainian Navy? Also no! What did these deliveries show? Just that for not frail grandmothers vparivany painted Aboriginal painted metal, instead of beads and mirrors, that's all.
              1. Petrol cutter
                Petrol cutter 19 June 2020 21: 17 New
                0
                Clear. I have no more questions. hi
  19. DeKo
    DeKo 18 June 2020 14: 15 New
    +1
    All. Kayuk to the Black Sea Fleet of Russia
  20. DeKo
    DeKo 18 June 2020 14: 19 New
    0
    A couple of years ago, the Military Revue, in Americanism, devoted a whole program about these boats. From which it followed that this is a very unsuccessful development of the United States. They tried to fuse allies. But those, it turned out, were smart. So they got into Ukraine
  21. Fitter65
    Fitter65 18 June 2020 14: 24 New
    +1
    The US Department of State authorized the sale to Ukraine under the Foreign Military Sale (FMS) program of 16 modern Mark VI patrol boats and related weapons. The total estimated cost of all this is $ 600 million.
    How is it allowed to sell? What do they want to say that Ukraine protecting the entire civilized world from Russian aggression still needs to buy weapons to fight world evil? !!!! What, just could not take and give? !!! laughing laughing tongue
  22. fa2998
    fa2998 18 June 2020 14: 36 New
    +3
    Quote: KCA
    I doubt that 404 will have enough money

    The title of the article is somewhat inaccurate! Give the sale to Ukraine as soon as possible! Boats are modern, and the quantity is solid. In shallow water and rivers, the Ukrainian Navy will significantly strengthen the boats. It would be nice if the boats didn’t reach Ukraine, there are plenty of authorities, you can click somewhere, and bury a deal. hi hi
  23. Oleg Olkha
    Oleg Olkha 18 June 2020 14: 47 New
    -2
    Nice, modern boat. In the originals (and not from Ukrainian resources) max speed is 45 knots. Israeli optoelectronic art. Rafael's Typhoon systems are being replaced with another, which is naturally not proper ... For some reason, it is not mentioned about the possibility of equipping boats with high-precision AGM-176 Griffin or Hellfire missiles, indicated in English originals, in a "marine" version and application ...
  24. TAMBU
    TAMBU 18 June 2020 16: 10 New
    +1
    the danger lies in the diversion of forces at a key moment. and for this such "water jackals" are great ...
  25. Ros 56
    Ros 56 18 June 2020 16: 45 New
    0
    The turntables from these boats will leave aluminum rags.
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  26. Tutashkhia date
    Tutashkhia date 18 June 2020 18: 37 New
    0
    M-da-aaaa, this time really everything. That’s it, the end. Kranty to the Red Banner Black Sea Fleet, its flagship cruiser Moscow, its frigates and submarines with Caliber. All. This is an absolutely complete end. as well as the end of Russian Crimea. It’s time to start preparing for the adoption of Ukrainian citizenship and recall the “first mov”. All, slam, everything. "America is with us!"
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 18 June 2020 20: 41 New
      -2
      Krants / not krants. But this is not a couple of makeshift katerki.
      And all this "cavalry" will be able to drink blood.
      So the Black Sea Fleet will soon become very “not asleep”! ..
  27. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 18 June 2020 20: 22 New
    0
    16 modern Mark VI patrol boats and related weapons

    This is a force for the Sea of ​​Azov ...
    It is more profitable for Americans to keep such boats on the other side of the Crimean Peninsula, where they have the WB near Ochakov, full-fledged ports of Odessa and Nikolaev that are not closed from anything ...
  28. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 18 June 2020 20: 36 New
    -2
    And I'm tired of talking already. No need to consider Ukraine as a kind of weak-minded and weak relative.
    Small by small and form a grouping at sea.
    After all, a chicken pecks a grain.
    1. Kuzmitsky
      18 June 2020 21: 14 New
      -2
      Yes, relax you. They are not going to attack Russia. But it’s easy to do some muck to create the DNI on the coast - in Novoazovsk or Sedovo. Or fishermen to have a nightmare. Of course, if these boats are presented to them, they can change their mind.
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 18 June 2020 21: 34 New
        0
        You really do not understand the scale of the problem of strengthening the UA fleet?! ..
        I live in Crimea, Primorsky. I work at a shipyard and have some idea of ​​a war at sea.
        You should be aware that no one has considered the peninsula to belong to the Russian Federation ?!
        That is, UA- considers it to be his own, tervody accordingly.
        And if you officially drown at least one of their motor boats under a pennant (and they become more and more to my deep regret). That it will be regarded as an act of fierce aggression against a neighboring state and the declaration of war (possibly) to him. Can you imagine the consequences ?! And the brothers will be a specialist walking and creating provocations in full.
        Do not be so kind as to get involved in this.
  29. faterdom
    faterdom 18 June 2020 20: 43 New
    0
    As they like to say in Vladivostok: “The brand must be taken! Right-hand drive!”
  30. Pavel57
    Pavel57 18 June 2020 21: 43 New
    0
    "Lenin's Forge" can no longer make boats?
  31. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 19 June 2020 21: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Cyril G ...
    In fact, these are boats for a coastal war, and it’s quite combat, our border boats carry significantly lighter weapons .... Mosquito forces for the coastal war have been taken root. There are five heels of 50-year-old armored vehicles pr. 1204.

    Only if you call the aircraft.

    in principle, border patrol boats and should not fight ..... this is not their purpose and essence
  32. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 19 June 2020 21: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Benzorez
    You really do not understand the scale of the problem of strengthening the UA fleet?! ..
    I live in Crimea, Primorsky. I work at a shipyard and have some idea of ​​a war at sea.
    You should be aware that no one has considered the peninsula to belong to the Russian Federation ?!
    That is, UA- considers it to be his own, tervody accordingly.
    And if you officially drown at least one of their motor boats under a pennant (and they become more and more to my deep regret). That it will be regarded as an act of fierce aggression against a neighboring state and the declaration of war (possibly) to him. Can you imagine the consequences ?! And the brothers will be a specialist walking and creating provocations in full.
    Do not be so kind as to get involved in this.

    and what are the consequences? start shouting loudly at “the whole world” and wringing your hands?!?!?!
  33. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 19 June 2020 21: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    Not a weak gift for 16 boats for 600 million dollars.

    This money would be enough to build a frigate pr.22350 or two corvettes pr.20380.

    We have the Raptor closest to these boats.

    Ukrainian corvette "V.V" project 58250 costs in the region of 280 million dollars
  34. Tom Johnson
    Tom Johnson 22 June 2020 01: 59 New
    +1
    Dual Mark 46 30 MM Chain guns, 2 remote controled .50 caliber and two man crewed .50 caliber. Seating for 20 and twice as big and more powerful than Russian RAPTOR.
  35. Tom Johnson
    Tom Johnson 22 June 2020 02: 05 New
    +2
    https://en.topwar.ru/152281-snarjad-s-programmiruemym-vzryvatelem-orbital-atk-northrop-grumman-mk-310-pabm-t-ssha.html

    TWO GUNS - as well as 2 remote operated and 2 crew .50 Caliber