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The National Interest: "Soviet soldiers were given pieces of rags instead of socks"

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The National Interest: "Soviet soldiers were given pieces of rags instead of socks"

When the American and other armies of the Western countries had already used socks, Russian soldiers continued to wrap pieces of cloth around their legs. This is stated by Caleb Larson on the pages of the American publication The National Interest.


The author of an article published in an American publication writes that the Russian (Soviet) military, unlike the Western ones, used footcloths for a long time instead of socks. According to Larson, Soviet soldiers "used pieces of smelly rags instead of socks."

Instead of using resources and labor to produce socks, the Soviet army simply gave out pieces of rags

- the author writes, adding that all armies switched to boots with lacing, and the Soviet soldiers continued to wear leather boots without laces, where "these footcloths" were inserted.

At the same time, he points out that “these pieces of rags for legs” performed the same function as socks, they even had summer and winter versions - cotton for the warm season, and flannel ones for winter.

They absorbed moisture, prevented corns and scuffs, and also protected the boots themselves from dirt and stones.

- he writes.

However, Larson emphasizes, wrapping the footcloths on the leg is not as easy as it seems, their use can be compared to "applying a bandage on the leg." Incorrect winding could lead to calluses and scuffs, which in turn could lead to "lagging behind and subsequent punishment."

As follows from the text of the article, the "use of footcloths" in the Russian army was carried out for many centuries, starting from the time of the "Russian Tsar Peter I" until 2013, when the Minister of Defense of Russia Sergei Shoigu replaced "these pieces of fabric" with normal ones as part of modernization textile products. "

Thus, the author writes, the Russian army moved to modern standards, leaving "old-fashioned practice" in the past.
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  1. Dargavs
    Dargavs 17 June 2020 14: 04
    92
    Envy is not a good feeling! "Are you jealous? Do it silently." (It is necessary to throw this Larson on the march, to straighten it in kirzach, in socks).
    1. Ru_Na
      Ru_Na 17 June 2020 14: 29
      39
      Pity the fool, he will rub himself such corns that he will not be able to walk later!)
      1. credo
        credo 17 June 2020 15: 03
        41
        Quote: Ru_Na
        Pity the fool, he will rub himself such corns that he will not be able to walk later!)

        I believe that the author of the article is not a paid scribbler with the task of the editorial staff to blaspheme everything Soviet (Russian) indiscriminately and despite the lack of experience.
        Footcloths wind up quickly and easily and have a number of advantages over socks. And the smell of "a piece of cloth" and a "normal textile" is the same if not washed.
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 17 June 2020 15: 30
          16
          Quote: credo
          Footcloths quickly and easily wound

          It is only necessary to clarify what is fast and easy for those who know how to reel them.
          1. Martin
            Martin 17 June 2020 16: 02
            36
            which is quick and easy for those who know how to wind them
            And every soldier knows how to reel them after a short service life. Learn this very quickly.
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 17 June 2020 18: 35
              13
              My father taught me in childhood, even ordinary rubber boots without them would not be allowed to wear. So there were no problems with them in the army laughing drinks
            2. Archivist Vasya
              Archivist Vasya 19 June 2020 09: 43
              0
              That's not everyone, by the way, we already had socks in 2011, we also wore boots, but mostly berets. Zamoy boots.
          2. parkello
            parkello 17 June 2020 21: 50
            +5
            Quote: Fitter65
            Quote: credo
            Footcloths quickly and easily wound

            It is only necessary to clarify what is fast and easy for those who know how to reel them.

            also true, but learning how to wind them is the same as tying shoelaces request there is no need for a lot of intelligence .. you just need to understand where the legs are, and where the hands, laces are also necessary to learn to tie ... and for the 1914 boots of the sample. the famous "kirzachi" with socks will rub such calluses. down the armpits .. here footcloths are better and more practical. They can be wound very quickly, and they are noticeably better than any socks, especially if you wash them, and there are also woolen ones .. I have. I will never wear socks with a boot of that pattern. and footcloths with ankle boots ... you don't have to lump everything together. for the infantry of the plain. as in the Russian Federation. boots are ideal footwear. in the mountains yes. better ankle boots, sneakers .. and in the steppe and in the fields of boots for all times.
        2. venik
          venik 17 June 2020 16: 54
          22
          Quote: credo
          And the smell of "a piece of cloth" and a "normal textile" is the same if not washed.

          ========
          By the way - "pieces of fabric" - are easier to wash and dry much faster !!!
          And as for the boots - during the "deadline" I had a chance to wear both "kirzachi" and "ankle boots". Both have their own advantages and disadvantages ...
          By the way, about the time: "ankle boots" with socks - dress in about the same time as boots with footcloths!
          So that "hack" with a Swedish surname: "general hello"! Have not tried - do not poke your nose with "analytics" ( lol )
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 17 June 2020 18: 42
            +7
            [quote = venik] [quote = credo] And the smell from "a piece of cloth" and "a normal textile product" is the same if they are not washed. [/ quote]
            ========
            "about the time:" ankle boots "with socks - dress in about the same time as boots with footcloths!"

            I bet you: boots with footcloths are worn in 4 movements - 3 to winding the footcloths, 1 - to put on a boot. Shoes with socks more: put on a sock, put on a boot, make coils of lace on the 4 upper hooks, tighten and tie again, compare! laughing drinks
            1. Alexander Seklitsky
              Alexander Seklitsky 18 June 2020 06: 23
              +4
              Quote: Doliva63
              I bet you: boots with footcloths are worn in 4 movements - 3 to winding the footcloths, 1 - to put on a boot.

              There is an even quicker "alarming" option. The parlet is thrown over the boot and pulled in behind the leg. laughing
              1. Artunis
                Artunis 18 June 2020 10: 42
                +5
                For such an alarming "option" from a good commander, you can and should get several outfits.
                1. Alexander Seklitsky
                  Alexander Seklitsky 18 June 2020 13: 30
                  +6
                  By the way, the commanders taught how to pull the footcloth on a parachute on alarm. Then, if necessary, rewind as needed. that the boots were not at the disposal
                  next to the bed, but in the dryer. And the whole division had to run there after them and not trample each other. At first it was wild trash. "Black Friday" rests laughing
                  Quote: Artunis
                  For such an alarming "option" from a good commander, you can and should get several outfits.
                  1. Martin
                    Martin 19 June 2020 15: 29
                    +1
                    Quote: Alexander Seklitsky
                    In air defense, the standards are very strict,
                    When, according to “readiness No. 1”, you fly out to turn on, when the Black Bustard is about to enter your zone, you can run barefoot through the snow. If, jumping from the second floor of the bunk, he didn’t immediately fall into the boots. smile Just the very emergency option, but you just missed.
                    After pressing the power button, there are a couple of tens of seconds to figure it out. The boots of the previous term were always at the station for household work, and for such a fire. smile
              2. Doliva63
                Doliva63 18 June 2020 20: 33
                0
                Quote: Alexander Seklitsky
                Quote: Doliva63
                I bet you: boots with footcloths are worn in 4 movements - 3 to winding the footcloths, 1 - to put on a boot.

                There is an even quicker "alarming" option. The parlet is thrown over the boot and pulled in behind the leg. laughing

                Yeah, and it was! laughing drinks
              3. Martin
                Martin 19 June 2020 15: 25
                0
                Quote: Alexander Seklitsky
                There is an even quicker "alarming" option. The parlet is thrown over the boot and pulled in behind the leg.

                This is a temporary option to get up and running quickly. You must rewind normally before jogging.
                1. Alexander Seklitsky
                  Alexander Seklitsky 19 June 2020 15: 58
                  0
                  Quote: Martyn
                  You must rewind normally before jogging.

                  Yes, before charging they built without such force majeure and less clothes, in winter, so generally charging in the barracks, only have time to put on pants laughing We had such "space" ascents only when combat training began. But for that, everything was in full, up to blackout in the barracks and preparation for a change of deployment. soldier And after all, the monsters raised the alarm at 5:30, when it was still so sweet asleep. laughing To create a real unexpected. In the second year, I myself woke up 10 minutes before the cry of the sentry, but in half an hour it was a blow below the waist lol
            2. saygon66
              saygon66 18 June 2020 12: 25
              0
              - Do the turns with a lace? winked What else is this for? On boots with hooks for quick lacing, this is useless ...
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 18 June 2020 20: 41
                0
                Quote: saygon66
                - Do the turns with a lace? winked What else is this for? On boots with hooks for quick lacing, this is useless ...

                Hooks for what? To tighten the top of the berets, the lace does not need to be pushed into the grommet (hole), but simply make a loop around the hook. Did you not know? And there were already 4 hooks on the boot. So count laughing
                1. saygon66
                  saygon66 19 June 2020 01: 53
                  +1
                  - I was once taught to do it right! wink
                  - Lace up a boot, throw the laces over the hooks, tie the laces - you can use a "dead knot".
                  - Throw off the loops formed by the laces from the hooks, straighten the tibia ... remove the boot.
                  - Wearing shoes, we pull by the loops, then alternately throw them on the hooks - that's it!
            3. Martin
              Martin 19 June 2020 15: 23
              0
              How many movements does it take to push a giraffe into the refrigerator? smile
              This is a children's riddle.
        3. antivirus
          antivirus 17 June 2020 22: 17
          0
          L., in a bunch of "dissidents" such as "human rights activists", gathered about the savagery of the Russian army.
          autonomy and survival in a clean field - forest - more important than smelly rags.
          and socks do not stink? -if you only go to the dining room, without a power supply in the field
          and you don’t pull socks on the rocket, and you can mask a whole rocket with a footcloth
        4. 4ekist
          4ekist 18 June 2020 12: 38
          0
          The footcloths were comfortable under army boots. Shoes changed, socks appeared. Hooks, gates, overcoats with slits on the back, boots with windings, I hope they are gone forever.
        5. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 18 June 2020 21: 35
          0
          Quote: credo
          And the smell of "a piece of cloth" and a "normal textile" is the same if not washed.

          According to Larson, the Soviet soldiers "used pieces of stinking rags instead of socks."

          Pisaka, damn it, almost saw through our secret weapons and means for expedited interrogation of prisoners!
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 17 June 2020 14: 40
      37
      With what pleasure would this piece of rag be driven into his mouth for his filthy speeches
      As in the war our fathers and grandfathers took the tongue when it was taken And nothing came to Berlin
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 17 June 2020 14: 49
        -7
        The National Interest: "Soviet soldiers were given pieces of rags instead of socks"

        And the army saying: "Are you my friend or footcloth?" Is she saying something to the author? Something I have not heard about their socks! Agree: in their language it does not sound. yes
        1. seregatara1969
          seregatara1969 17 June 2020 15: 51
          +9
          How did the footcloth protect the boot from dirt? She is inside! Winter footcloths - cloth! All rural Russia wore and wears footcloths. If the footcloth stinks in a leather boot, does the sock in the same boot smell like a chypre? Socks in our chota boots do not last long.
          1. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 18 June 2020 11: 51
            0
            And newspapers were wrapped around footcloths. Very warm.
        2. bayard
          bayard 17 June 2020 16: 26
          +2
          You are simply not familiar with the folklore about "scented socks". And American folklore in this respect does not lag behind the domestic one. wink
          1. zwlad
            zwlad 17 June 2020 21: 11
            +1
            Oh yeah! Gaza Strip!
        3. iouris
          iouris 17 June 2020 22: 44
          0
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          "Are you my friend or footcloth?"

          Stupid saying, I never heard her. Different levels of culture and different technological levels. Different environmental conditions. The United States has never seriously fought. In addition, the footcloths for CA were not made from nylon.
    3. ApJlekuHo
      ApJlekuHo 17 June 2020 16: 53
      -1
      (It is necessary to throw this Larson on a march, in kirsach to correct, in socks).

      They finally realized, the main, secret footcloths, the key to the success of the Slavs.
    4. Hagen
      Hagen 17 June 2020 19: 07
      +7
      Quote: DargAVS
      (It is necessary to throw this Larson on a march, in kirsach to correct, in socks).

      Something was recalled: ".... The US Special Forces proved to be a weakling at the international competitions of" superfighters "of ten armies of the world taking place in Kazakhstan. The Americans refused to participate in the competition on the very first day. The reason - super-G-I" could not stand the heat and difficult conditions. "True, then they explained with a clever air that" they were not going to give all the best ":
      International Special Forces Competition in Kazakhstan: American sissies retired from dehydration. Competitions of the best scouts, special forces from all over the world are held in Kazakhstan, 10 teams from Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, the USA, etc. are fighting for victory .... "
      In the United States, even the special forces are afraid to run, and you are some kind of Larson ... and in kirzach. And today I would have wrapped a little dressing in my boot ... And to hell with her, that she is not from "Cardin" laughing
      1. Rzzz
        Rzzz 17 June 2020 21: 26
        +3
        Quote: Hagen
        stepped away from dehydration.

        They managed to get away from dehydration during some winter exercise in the Arctic. Well, like they were taught that you can't eat snow, because due to the lack of salts in it, hydrogenation is disturbed in the body .. he carried some kind of abstruse heresy, in short the meaning is that it is better not to complete the task, but stay "hydrogenated" than to get penalty for violation of the regime.
        1. Victor67
          Victor67 17 June 2020 23: 02
          -5
          And can you give me more details on which particular exercises in the Arctic they left the race? I asked this because, due to such a donkey in the ranks of the nachsostav in 1941, our valiant cadre army was unwound by the same German stupid people, poorly dressed, not eating snow, not drinking water from the swamp, demanding French wine from silver shot glasses, etc. Passing them to Moscow with the existing balance of forces and means was universal shame ...
          1. Rzzz
            Rzzz 18 June 2020 18: 33
            0
            I don’t remember where I read this material, it was a long time ago.
            Well, that’s good. Exemplary soldiers followed the instructions. At the same time, they did not complete the task. In the exercises, let's say they did everything right. And in a real war? When landing, you lost a flask of isotonic solution. All, captive surrender?
            1. Victor67
              Victor67 18 June 2020 19: 25
              -1
              It’s very bad that you don’t remember, but write all kinds of crap! I wrote a little higher that these hat-tempering moods, like we tearing these sissies in socks, socks, eating oranges for lunch, cost a lot in 1941. As for the footcloths and socks, try to buy your own socks from the standard kit for the US infantry, you go barefoot for a year without them, plus antibacterial impregnation and the absence of any smells.
              1. Rzzz
                Rzzz 19 June 2020 09: 11
                0
                Quote: Victor67
                As for the footcloths and socks, try to buy your own socks from the standard kit for the US infantry, you go barefoot for a year without them, plus antibacterial impregnation and the absence of any smells.

                Well, I do not argue that everything is cool there. Although I did not check, But I am sure that progress does not stand still. And I do not urge anyone to throw anything at all; do not speak for me.
                But just imagine, the evil partisans shot down in the jungle with a helicopter loaded with high-tech socks. Everything, the war is over, surrender !!! So what?
                The army should be such that to carry out their tasks in any conditions. In an extreme case, be prepared to drink water from the swamp, and not die from it. In the absence of socks - cut into the footcloth uniforms of the defeated enemy, and stomp on.
                Why nanotech socks may be missing is another story, beyond the scope of this discussion.
                1. Victor67
                  Victor67 19 June 2020 17: 38
                  0
                  The army should be such that the soldier in the trench had nanotechnological socks, fresh fruit, and a glass of vodka for the night with a snack. And it is up to the commanders and suppliers to prevent soldiers from drinking water from the swamp. A defeated enemy must be buried, and not looted in his pockets due to the fact that the ensign sold the supply in the market, well, or, in a modern way))))
      2. Victor67
        Victor67 18 June 2020 19: 12
        0
        Could you tell me in more detail how the Americans refused to participate in competitions, well, are there any links to documents, articles from serious resources?
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 18 June 2020 19: 46
          -1
          Quote: Victor67
          And you can in more detail, well, there are some links to documents, articles

          You stick a fragment from the comment in Yandex, and you will be everything that your heart desires. Ali did not guess ?!
          1. Victor67
            Victor67 18 June 2020 20: 09
            0
            If you consider me stupid, then this is absolutely unfair. There, in Yandex, on this subject, there was one article in LJ from some kind of loshped with the nickname Matveychev Oleg, who with a probability of 0,99 did not serve in the army. It’s just that a man was peeing on a fan and that’s all ... Will you personally give something serious about their escape from the competition because of your reluctance to give all your best?
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 18 June 2020 20: 34
              0
              Quote: Victor67
              one note in LiveJournal from some kind of loshped with nickname Matveychev Oleg

              You are painfully arrogant ... First of all, there are notes about this there ... hell. Secondly, maybe he didn’t serve, but nobody refuted his Old. I myself did not participate there. But I see no reason to question the unproved information. Do you want to protect them? Prove that this one ... as you called him there ... brought a misinformation. It's all so simple. Blame it - prove it.
              1. Victor67
                Victor67 18 June 2020 23: 17
                0
                You, nevertheless, give a link to some serious resource on the topic of running away from the competition of Americans? Or will you also write on the fan? I hate this demagogy in one glass with cheers-patriotism in footcloths.
  2. Far B
    Far B 17 June 2020 14: 05
    20
    Aftyr is a ram. For foot boots, the best solution. And you can knock down your legs with socks - if the elastic breaks, it will not seem enough. In long transitions, of course
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 14: 08
      +7
      Quote: Dalny V
      And you can knock down your legs with socks - if the elastic breaks, it will not seem enough.

      And what about "smelly" ... lol
      1. oldzek
        oldzek 17 June 2020 14: 20
        +9
        Well, it depends on the desire to observe the hygiene of the boot owner IMHO
        1. seregatara1969
          seregatara1969 17 June 2020 15: 52
          +1
          The smell of genuine leather is definitely not a chanel
      2. Far B
        Far B 17 June 2020 14: 21
        16
        Definitely. Footcloths are dried over any bonfire. And socks (army, by the way, nishtyak, I’ve only taken them lately), but you can’t place them normally on a vein - they will either burn out or not dry. Judging by the experience of taiga, I think, not strong differences.
        1. Martin
          Martin 17 June 2020 16: 00
          26
          Footcloths are dried over any bonfire.
          The special value of footcloths is that they are dried without a fire. Moreover - right on the go. Once the wet footcloth is rewound with the dry end onto the foot, and wet with the ankle and continue on the path, like ... oppa! ... a miracle is wonderful, the wet end dries up on the warm ankle, the dry one gradually gets wet on the sweating foot. The footcloth got wet - “Rewind the footcloths!” And again: the dried end on the foot, wet on the ankle. Thus, a soldier can be in search almost forever! smile And over the fire - this is a five-star hotel.
          1. avib
            avib 17 June 2020 17: 50
            12
            Footcloths - a universal thing. Dimensionless. Gathered from the whole company, washed and handed back to each pair. No sizes. Logistics - level 80 - everything is simple. For boots - that’s it.
          2. nerd.su
            nerd.su 17 June 2020 21: 44
            +1
            Quote: Martyn
            the wet end dries on a warm ankle, the dry end gradually gets wet on a sweating foot

            I've been using footcloths all my life, but I never learned to sweat my feet and dry my ankles. So the whole leg sweats ... sad and in the old fashioned way in a "five-star hotel" and land ...
        2. Kisa
          Kisa 18 June 2020 06: 24
          -1
          all this talk about the superiority of footcloths from lack of money. the technology has already gone far ahead and the partisans sheepskin sheepskin coats, boots, etc. well, leave it all in the past if you are in the taiga for 50 km a day by foot on hills with equipment then you take the best lightweight material in modern materials in Cabelas
      3. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 17 June 2020 14: 22
        +5
        And what about "smelly" ... lol


        Yeah. At night in the barracks. laughing
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 17 June 2020 14: 47
          18
          Quote: Interlocutor
          And what about "smelly" ... lol


          Yeah. At night in the barracks. laughing

          Nothing special request . A minute and you no longer smell anything No. .

          Remembered the joke:
          At night in the barracks, scream -Open the window, stuffy belay Etc.
          Someone throws a boot, the clink of glass ... a joyful exclamation is heard, -Okay, fresh air! ...
          In the morning everyone saw that they had broken ... a mirror winked
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 15: 05
            +4
            Quote: Terenin
            Nothing special . A minute and you no longer smell anything

            Yes. But you will come in from fresh air - like a butt on your forehead!
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 17 June 2020 15: 16
              +8
              Quote: Vasyan1971
              6 years lived in a trailer on a business trip

              Vasily, well, these years probably were not the worst!?
              1. Vasyan1971
                Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 15: 24
                +5
                Quote: Terenin
                Vasily, well, these years probably were not the worst!?

                No were not! Definitely! good
                Beloved wife, again, brought from there. bully
                Grandma, however, died without me. But they released for the funeral, all honor to honor ...
                1. Terenin
                  Terenin 17 June 2020 15: 28
                  +4
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Beloved wife, again, brought from there

                  Happy you are a man good .
                  Py.Sy. The same or something, I buy a trailer ... winked a joke wink
                  1. Vasyan1971
                    Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 15: 42
                    +1
                    Quote: Terenin
                    The same or something, I buy a trailer ...

                    For 6 years, it somehow formed itself. laughing
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 17 June 2020 19: 02
              +1
              Quote: Vasyan1971
              Quote: Terenin
              Nothing special . A minute and you no longer smell anything

              Yes. But you will come in from fresh air - like a butt on your forehead!

              So, usually footcloths were washed for the night. If it’s completely exhausted, for example, after the 3rd flight change, then yes, it happened. The costs of combat training, nothing can be done. By the way, we were not forbidden to wear socks, we had the same parsley with them.
              1. Vasyan1971
                Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 19: 39
                +1
                Quote: Doliva63
                So, usually footcloths were washed for the night.

                Each monastery has its own charter. request
                And in the barracks, the Dukhan and besides the footcloths have something to come from. Refined cocktail of aromas, pancake ... wassat
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 17 June 2020 20: 16
                  0
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  So, usually footcloths were washed for the night.

                  Each monastery has its own charter. request
                  And in the barracks, the Dukhan and besides the footcloths have something to come from. Refined cocktail of aromas, pancake ... wassat

                  Yes, but look: the washed footcloths in the dryer at night, the personnel, if there were any "loads", took a shower, in the barracks everywhere odorless flowers are fragrant. Well, the specific smell of yuft boots, maybe. But he is like a dear already, you will not notice him even from the street.
                  1. Vasyan1971
                    Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 20: 32
                    +1
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    the personnel, if there were "loads", took a shower, in the barracks everywhere the odorless flowers are fragrant. Well, the peculiar smell of yuft boots

                    laughing Suede boots with a peculiar smell, you say? laughing A shower in the barracks? laughing laughing Are the flowers fragrant? laughing laughing laughing
                    Although I served in the garrison (Monino) and did not see the "real" field service, I can hardly imagine what you have voiced, or rather, I can’t imagine at all ... what
                    1. zwlad
                      zwlad 17 June 2020 21: 19
                      +2
                      Well, we definitely didn’t have this in Totsk. Shower - washbasin with cold water.
                      1. Vasyan1971
                        Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 21: 43
                        +2
                        Quote: zwlad
                        Shower - washbasin with cold water.

                        And a foot bath. Avoiding depletion. Type of such:

                        Service, his mom ... laughing
                      2. oldzek
                        oldzek 17 June 2020 21: 58
                        0
                        Well, we didn’t lift our legs, we had cranes for our legs ... though the barracks were German. I served in the GSVG in the 60s.
                      3. Vasyan1971
                        Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 22: 04
                        0
                        Quote: oldzek
                        Well, we didn’t lift our legs, we had cranes for our legs

                        You don’t have to lift anything in the foot bath.

                        You get up, it happened, around five or four and enjoy ... wassat
                    2. ycuce234-san
                      ycuce234-san 19 June 2020 13: 08
                      0
                      Correctly up-to-date contemporaneity, building codes should be adopted for the construction and overhaul of barracks and introduced into them mandatory walk-in showers and laundries with heating and separate filtering of washing liquids in the shower and in the laundry room. Modern pools work just like that - in a closed loop. In addition, some water features are also sports facilities, such as a wave pool.
                      In the video, as an illustration, the inside of the tower, which is very similar to a large walk-through shower.

                2. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 18 June 2020 20: 58
                  +1
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  the personnel, if there were "loads", took a shower, in the barracks everywhere the odorless flowers are fragrant. Well, the peculiar smell of yuft boots

                  laughing Suede boots with a peculiar smell, you say? laughing A shower in the barracks? laughing laughing Are the flowers fragrant? laughing laughing laughing
                  Although I served in the garrison (Monino) and did not see the "real" field service, I can hardly imagine what you have voiced, or rather, I can’t imagine at all ... what

                  Yuft boots - ordinary, which were supposed to be a military serviceman laughing
                  Shower - we took off and bought a shower cabin for the fighters laughing
                  Flowers in the barracks are a commander's whim. The inspectors were amazed - "are we in the barracks or in the greenhouse? But ..., bl.lin, great, great fellows!" laughing
                  Our army was big and very different. laughing drinks
                  1. Vasyan1971
                    Vasyan1971 18 June 2020 21: 41
                    +1
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    Our army was big and very different.

                    This is yes! A friend served somewhere for Tagil, three days on deer to get there. belay I knew Zen and even one side of reality ... wassat
                  2. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 18 June 2020 21: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: Vasyan1971
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    Our army was big and very different.

                    This is yes! A friend served somewhere for Tagil, three days on deer to get there. belay I knew Zen and even one side of reality ... wassat

                    "Somewhere beyond Tagil" stretches to the Arctic Circle and beyond laughing
                  3. Vasyan1971
                    Vasyan1971 18 June 2020 21: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    "Somewhere beyond Tagil" stretches to the Arctic Circle and beyond

                    Well, I say: three days on deer. I remember writing letters - N. Tagil and part number. I asked later, he just waved ... request
                    Now you won’t ask. Diabetes, an insulin coma ... Two years ago.
                  4. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 18 June 2020 21: 55
                    0
                    Quote: Vasyan1971
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    "Somewhere beyond Tagil" stretches to the Arctic Circle and beyond

                    Well, I say: three days on deer. I remember writing letters - N. Tagil and part number. I asked later, he just waved ... request

                    Strategic Rocket Forces?
                  5. Vasyan1971
                    Vasyan1971 18 June 2020 21: 57
                    0
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    Strategic Rocket Forces?

                    He said something about communication. I asked a couple of times, he moved off topic, I no longer insisted. yes
                  6. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 18 June 2020 22: 12
                    0
                    Quote: Vasyan1971
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    Strategic Rocket Forces?

                    He said something about communication. I asked a couple of times, he moved off topic, I no longer insisted. yes

                    If communication is real, then, probably, something serious, such as control of government communication lines. If the Strategic Missile Forces are not better either, like, as they are called, "codes". I am more or less familiar with the latter and have been to Svobodny more than once - this is also "behind Tagil", but not very far. My brother "cipher" was on an urgent basis, then he entered the rocket. Not every "special officer" could get to them, to put it mildly.
                  7. Vasyan1971
                    Vasyan1971 18 June 2020 22: 16
                    0
                    I don’t know, I won’t lie. hi
                  8. Doliva63
                    Doliva63 18 June 2020 22: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Vasyan1971
                    I don’t know, I won’t lie. hi

                    And it’s better not to specify once again laughing
                  9. Vasyan1971
                    Vasyan1971 19 June 2020 00: 17
                    0
                    Quote: Doliva63
                    And it’s better not to specify once again

                    Not. Thirty years have passed ... Yes, and no one else has sad
  • Souchastnik
    Souchastnik 18 June 2020 09: 18
    +2
    took a shower, in the barracks everywhere odorous flowers ...

    We also took a shower in the school. I put my head under a faucet with cold water (apparently they forgot to hold the hot one) and wash your waist. And on weekends a bath with hot water. For those who want to wash completely unscheduled, after work or a march, for example, there was a rubber hose.
    But there were no flowers. Did not survive. laughing
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 18 June 2020 21: 54
      0
      Quote: Souchastnik
      took a shower, in the barracks everywhere odorous flowers ...

      We also took a shower in the school. I put my head under a faucet with cold water (apparently they forgot to hold the hot one) and wash your waist. And on weekends a bath with hot water. For those who want to wash completely unscheduled, after work or a march, for example, there was a rubber hose.
      But there were no flowers. Did not survive. laughing

      Are you talking about a military school? Yes, in the winter with a shower there were some problems. And in the summer - I drove OKU-32 with an hour, already the remaining fat from the pores climb - you unscrew the spout from the washbasin, more pressure - and here you have a blessed shower! Until the foreman expels laughing And the flowers in the school were, at least in the lenkomnat and in the household room - well, the one with mirrors and ironing boards, you probably forgot. And watered these flowers outfit by company.
      1. Souchastnik
        Souchastnik 19 June 2020 09: 39
        0
        And the flowers in the school were, at least in the lenkomnat and in the household room

        I have not forgotten. We had no flowers. Neither in the cabins nor in the lenkomnat. At the entrance to the bedside table was a container with pebbles and a grill. Presumably for flowers. But there were no flowers. request
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 20 June 2020 21: 29
        0
        Quote: Souchastnik
        And the flowers in the school were, at least in the lenkomnat and in the household room

        I have not forgotten. We had no flowers. Neither in the cabins nor in the lenkomnat. At the entrance to the bedside table was a container with pebbles and a grill. Presumably for flowers. But there were no flowers. request

        Hmm, our army was big and different. But, damn it, in the Lenkomnat the flowers were even in the infantry of the UMSR in Elani, where in winter it was +8 in the barracks. laughing drinks
  • PValery53
    PValery53 18 June 2020 00: 24
    0
    In the barracks, the l / s sniffs at their smells, but the daytime one comes in in the morning, and his eyes are watering from the "dense" air ("even hang an ax!") (I remember from my studies with 2-storey beds)
  • major147
    major147 17 June 2020 15: 02
    +5
    Quote: Vasyan1971
    And what about "smelly" ...

    "Our onuchi theirs are not stinking!" (from)
  • ltc35
    ltc35 17 June 2020 20: 26
    +2
    Footcloths are more hygienic than a sock! Sweating - rewound to the other side and they dried out. With socks, such a trick will not work! laughing
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 20: 38
      +1
      Quote: ltc35
      With socks, such a trick will not work!

      I do not know if you have read "Carlson Who Lives on the Roof", but he succeeded with ease. When his grandmother shouted "Change your socks, Karlsonchik! Change your socks!" He easily and naturally changed clothes from right to left and vice versa. wassat
  • akropin
    akropin 17 June 2020 14: 55
    -2
    At work, my boy returned from the army 3 years ago. Marine scout. I ask him - I saw the "Warrior" equipment, wore ankle boots, how was it served? The answer was: "And what is" Warrior "? I wore ankle boots only in units, in the field only kerzachi with footcloths. I served normally, I do not want to return."
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 17 June 2020 15: 12
      +3
      What kind of nonsense? Kirzach is not in clothing contentment from the word at all. Like footcloths. He certainly returned 3 years ago and not 30?) And the warrior 3 years ago just started to deliver.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 17 June 2020 14: 10
    11
    According to Larson, the Soviet soldiers "used pieces of stinking rags instead of socks."
    Ha, can you think socks after socks roses smelled and were cleaner?
    By the way, it was very easy to wash and dry, unlike socks!
    And for the little pigs there was always a stimulant ... kind, kind, sergeant or foreman!
    However, Larson emphasizes, wrapping foot wraps on foot is not as easy as it seems.

    Twice ha, it doesn’t seem like it, but it takes an hour to train under the guidance of an experienced sergeant and all business ... however, especially gifted ones and a sock can wear a collar!
    They absorbed moisture, prevented corns and scuffs, and also protected the boots themselves from dirt and stones.
    Captain evidence ... I want to note, well, all this was carried out! Just not BOOTS, but LEGS!
    1. Andrey Miroshnichenko
      Andrey Miroshnichenko 17 June 2020 14: 14
      +8
      Vivat! I fall from my chair, as footcloths could protect boots from stones and dirt.
      1. Lynx2000
        Lynx2000 17 June 2020 14: 27
        +9
        Quote: Andrey Miroshnichenko
        Vivat! I fall from my chair, as footcloths could protect boots from stones and dirt.

        lol
        Not boots, but as the author writes: "leather shoes without laces" ?!
        It feels like it was written by a woman ...

        Any army is based on many years of tradition. For example, footcloths are a tradition of the Russian army.
        Similarly, for example, I do not understand the practicality of the skirts (in their kilts) for the Scottish shooters.
        1. Far B
          Far B 17 June 2020 14: 39
          17
          How incomprehensible? Fabergés don't sweat. The hand does not reach to scratch them, respectively, the fingers are dry and do not stick to the string. Everything is easy to explain if you give free rein to your imagination
          1. major071
            major071 17 June 2020 14: 53
            +7
            Faberge do not sweat. The hand does not stretch to scratch them, respectively, the fingers are dry and do not stick to the bowstring
            .
            Mikhail, you "killed" me. laughing I have never considered wearing kilts from such an angle. drinks Urgently need to catch Muse ... winked
            1. Far B
              Far B 17 June 2020 14: 58
              +8
              Always at your service. I mnu myself this one, like evo ... Duncan MacLeod consulted. I advised him such, do not bring the Lord. In short, I am always ready.
              1. major071
                major071 17 June 2020 15: 06
                17
                If the wind "blows"
                Chilling a little testicles
                Letting go of the kilt
                The scent of unwashed feet
                You are already a wonderful archer,
                Kohl hand under the kilt does not climb
                To scratch what was combed
                Distracted at this moment ...
                wink drinks
          2. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 17 June 2020 14: 53
            18
            Quote: Dalny V
            Everything is easy to explain if you give free rein to your imagination

            That's right. In frosty weather, the Scottish army does not need a drummer to set the rhythm on the march.
            1. Far B
              Far B 17 June 2020 15: 47
              +8
              The ringing of the frozen bells came to their ears, and Chingachguk said to Uncas: Chew! But will this Scot reach Ryazan?
              1. Polite Moose
                Polite Moose 17 June 2020 18: 14
                0
                Quote: Dalny V
                The ringing of the frozen bells came to their ears, and Chingachguk said to Uncas: Chew! But will this Scot reach Ryazan?

                The young warrior was in no hurry to answer. For the response of a man must be well thought out and balanced. Finally, after a short silence, broken only by the creak of snow under the numb feet of a Scots who was leaving for sunset and gradually calming down, he said: Father, you and I are the last of our tribe, and that strange pale-faced, it seems to me, is the last of his kind. And neither to Ryazan, much less to Ivanovo he should go nowhere. Let's go pick him up squaw. He will not need it anymore. I hope your big snake can still sting.
        2. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 17 June 2020 14: 49
          +7
          Quote: Lynx2000
          for example, I don’t understand the practicality of the skirts (in their kilts) of the Scottish shooters.

          Thanks to kilts in windy weather, the Scottish army looks especially menacing. wink
          1. Katanikotael
            Katanikotael 17 June 2020 14: 59
            +1
            Is this a bike, or did they really begin to issue cowards after the Queen’s speech when the entire first row sat with legs apart?
            1. bk0010
              bk0010 17 June 2020 16: 25
              +7
              The bike. Underpants are forbidden there by a uniform, a sergeant with a mirror walks, checks. Only one sat with his legs apart, he repented, said that he was inadvertently, and in the photo his cock was retouched.
              1. Polite Moose
                Polite Moose 17 June 2020 18: 29
                +2
                Quote: bk0010
                a sergeant with a mirror walks, checks.

                There is a joke on this topic:
                Drill in the Scottish army. The sergeant goes around the entrusted unit. Approaches one soldier and asks loudly
                - Private McGregor!
                - Me sir!
                - Why is your kilt 10 centimeters longer than it should be under the charter?
                “Well, what do you think yourself, sir?”
                1. Dart
                  Dart 17 June 2020 22: 51
                  0
                  I was not too lazy to copy-paste your messages to classmates ...
                  Thank you! drinks good
              2. Souchastnik
                Souchastnik 18 June 2020 09: 33
                +1
                sergeant with a mirror walks

                Are the boots not polished enough? am
                1. bk0010
                  bk0010 18 June 2020 09: 37
                  0
                  So they don’t even have pants, where are the boots from? Only some civilian boots with leggings. But do you really clean them ?!
          2. Lynx2000
            Lynx2000 18 June 2020 03: 26
            +1
            Quote: Polite Moose

            Thanks to kilts in windy weather, the Scottish army looks especially menacing. wink

            This is the time since the expression - "to compare with pipiski".
            So in their armies it is now customary to wear diapers.
            They say that their kilt helps to run through the mountains.
            I myself spent every summer in the Altai Mountains, Dad was an instructor in mountain tourism. Sometimes on the descent along the path, gravel will float under the foot, sometimes on the ass and back you will climb through several meters. So it is in canvas trousers. And in a skirt, but naked ...
            In the trench life is somehow dumb. Only Madame on Trafalgar Square embarrass.
            1. Polite Moose
              Polite Moose 18 June 2020 07: 11
              0
              Quote: Lynx2000
              They say that their kilt helps to run through the mountains.

              This statement came from mountain honey collectors.
              1. Lynx2000
                Lynx2000 18 June 2020 07: 46
                0
                Quote: Polite Moose
                Quote: Lynx2000
                They say that their kilt helps to run through the mountains.

                This statement came from mountain honey collectors.

                wink
                Controversial statement. Just my grandfather raised bees and an apiary (wheelbarrow) in the summer exhibited in the foothills of Altai. I have never seen someone wearing skirts in a medical pump. Bees are faster than a cross country runner. I checked. laughing
                1. Polite Moose
                  Polite Moose 18 June 2020 08: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: Lynx2000
                  Controversial statement.

                  Ancient Scottish beekeepers claim that according to their personal observations, a man in a skirt who has got to the apiary runs from it along the mountainous area much faster than bees and, especially, a man in trousers. wink
                  Quote: Lynx2000
                  Bees are faster than a cross country runner. I checked.

                  Try to do the same in kilt. Although it’s better not to. laughing
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 17 June 2020 14: 41
        +8
        Quote: Andrey Miroshnichenko
        I fall from my chair, as footcloths could protect boots from stones and dirt.

        If you wrap footcloths over your boots, then ... Well, what to take from an American? fool
      3. bk0010
        bk0010 17 June 2020 16: 23
        +3
        Dirty feet - footcloths protect boots from them. It’s harder with stones: it’s hard to imagine feet so dirty that the dirt is rammed directly into the stones. But we are not looking for easy ways! And imagine.
    2. Andrey Miroshnichenko
      Andrey Miroshnichenko 17 June 2020 14: 19
      +2
      I laugh at the author of the article not at you!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 June 2020 14: 26
        +4
        Author, foreign, not in courses how it works! Maybe he recalls the chronicle of the First World War or the period when the Red Army really lacked boots and had boots with windings ... it’s still not clear. Well, God bless him ... we all REMEMBER!
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 17 June 2020 14: 35
          +6
          Maybe he recalls the chronicle of the First World War or the period when the Red Army really lacked boots and had boots with windings.

          boots with windings were not only in the Red Army, but also in the armies of other states. Not because of the lack of boots.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 17 June 2020 14: 48
            0
            There were, for various reasons ... trying to understand how footcloths protected boots from stones and dirt.
            1. Glory1974
              Glory1974 17 June 2020 14: 51
              +2
              how footcloths protected boots from stones and dirt.

              he probably mixed up boots and boots with windings. According to his version, a footcloth is wound on top of the bootleg and protects it.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 17 June 2020 14: 59
                0
                Here I am about the same as an assumption, not a statement.
        2. edmed
          edmed 17 June 2020 16: 16
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          boot and there were boots with windings

          I’ll give up my 5 kopecks, the Boer War changed a lot in military fashion, hacks, boots in Yu .A, well, somehow not very, boots, yes, but an infection, there is a thorny bush, that is, you need windings, protect your ankles, well then it started, everyone picked up fashion, again the economic fact that it’s more expensive than shoes or boots, not forgetting the climate of Europe.
    3. Lynx-z
      Lynx-z 17 June 2020 15: 42
      +5
      judging by the text, footcloths were already given out as smelly))
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 18 June 2020 09: 09
        0
        judging by the text, footcloths were already given out as smelly))

        wassat good
  • Egoza
    Egoza 17 June 2020 14: 12
    14
    And what diapers from footcloths turned out! The best present for a young dad from his comrades is a whole set of footcloths that were intended for a platoon!
    1. oldzek
      oldzek 17 June 2020 14: 21
      +4
      and the opposite situation .... when the diapers disappear need.
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 17 June 2020 15: 48
      +3
      ... from the warm .. hi which they did ..
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 14: 12
    14
    According to Larson, the Soviet soldiers "used pieces of stinking rags instead of socks."

    Continuing the same logic, the stew is heated pieces of animal corpses. wassat
    In short, another cranberry about "these wild Russians".
    1. Far B
      Far B 17 June 2020 14: 23
      10
      I like heated pieces of animal corpses, especially with buckwheat or rice. To you Am I a scumbag?
      1. major147
        major147 17 June 2020 15: 05
        +3
        Quote: Dalny V
        Am I a scumbag?

        What else lol But not alone in your "love" repeat
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 17 June 2020 19: 30
        0
        Quote: Far In
        I like heated pieces of animal corpses, especially with buckwheat or rice. To you Am I a scumbag?

        True connoisseurs of "heated pieces of animal corpses" preferred them with peas - the food of the gods! But, however, it was not often met. drinks
  • Ravik
    Ravik 17 June 2020 14: 13
    14
    Shoes and kirzachi are incorrect to compare.
    Socks stink no worse than footcloths. And torn for one, two, three ...
    On the march I won’t exchange any footcloths even for golden socks.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 17 June 2020 14: 29
      +2
      Now, it's all about Feng Shui ... i.e. on space technology. Quality shoes and socks, this is normal.
      Boots with footcloths were good! Apply now, but only when without them completely seams.
    2. major147
      major147 17 June 2020 15: 10
      +4
      Quote: Ravik
      Shoes and kirzachi are incorrect to compare.
      Socks stink no worse than footcloths. And torn for one, two, three ...
      On the march I won’t exchange any footcloths even for golden socks.

      At the beginning of his military service I served in the TurkVO city of Samarkand. So I happened to wear boots with footcloths and boots with socks. I am for boots with footcloths. Those socks that were given to us after four hours of active socks became sticky and slippery. And he rewound the footcloth and again "like new".
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 17 June 2020 15: 43
        +3
        Quote: major147
        Those socks that were given to us after four hours of active socks became sticky and slippery. And he rewound the footcloth and again "like new".

        The soldier asks the foremen:
        - And these are new footcloths?
        - Well, not new, but clean ... Well, not clean, but washing ... Well, let's go replace.
  • Well done
    Well done 17 June 2020 14: 13
    +2
    What an unusual approach to ordinary things! laughingAnd about the stench, yes, in the summer at night in the barracks there are still "aromas". laughing
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 17 June 2020 14: 30
      +4
      If there are a lot of people, the room is poorly ventilated and there are enough aromas without footcloths.
    2. Crane
      Crane 17 June 2020 14: 40
      +3
      “Comrade Warrant Officer, let’s get a goat in the barracks.”
      - So it stinks!
      - Yes, we already sniffed.
      1. region58
        region58 18 June 2020 21: 25
        +1
        Quote: Crane
        let's get a goat in the barracks.

        Option:
        - And let's get a pig. The meat will be fat!
        - What are you ?! Dangers, stinks ...
        - Nothing, get used to it.
    3. vvvjak
      vvvjak 17 June 2020 14: 59
      +6
      Quote: Welldone
      And about the stench, yes, in the summer at night in the barracks there are still "aromas".

      And what do footcloths do at night in the barracks? I went into the dryer, took off my boots, put on slippers, hung up the footcloths to dry, washed my feet, and only then I got it. We had no "aromas" in the barracks, well, if only after the pea concentrate. laughing
      1. Well done
        Well done 17 June 2020 15: 15
        +4
        Our dryer worked only in winter. Footcloths for the night were simply "thrown" over the boots. But we were not fed peas at all) We had our own pigsty in the unit, so all the dishes were with bacon. On demobilization left "a mouth wider than shoulders" and this in a rather "crisis" 97-99.
        1. vvvjak
          vvvjak 17 June 2020 15: 27
          +2
          Quote: Welldone
          Our dryer only worked in the winter.

          We constantly had boots with footcloths only in the dryer. This, however, was one, but a big drawback: in the event of an alarm, the crowd rushed into the dryer and grabbed the boots at hand, and not ours. So I, with other people's boots, earned my first corns. He served with you at the same time 97-98 (a year, because he was already with higher education).
          1. not main
            not main 17 June 2020 22: 40
            0
            Quote: vvvjak
            Quote: Welldone
            Our dryer only worked in the winter.

            We constantly had boots with footcloths only in the dryer. This, however, was one, but a big drawback: in the event of an alarm, the crowd rushed into the dryer and grabbed the boots at hand, and not ours. So I, with other people's boots, earned my first corns. He served with you at the same time 97-98 (a year, because he was already with higher education).

            Then it is clear! Our footcloths were dried on boots or on the crossbar of the end of the bed. 80-84 years
      2. Alexander Seklitsky
        Alexander Seklitsky 18 June 2020 17: 06
        +2
        Quote: vvvjak
        And what do footcloths do at night in the barracks? I went into the dryer, took off my boots, put on slippers,

        We were allowed to walk in boots, only the officer on duty in the company, and the officers too. And so immediately at the entrance there was a dryer, purely for shoes, and if you went into the “company” for more than 15 minutes, please take off your shoes and hang up the parttos. And this was done not even for reasons of stench, but because otherwise on Saturday you would "sweat" with a brush dk chirkashi from the takeoff laughing
    4. major147
      major147 17 June 2020 15: 11
      +2
      Quote: Welldone
      in the summer at night in the barracks those still "aromas".

      In summer, windows can be opened, but in winter .....
      1. Well done
        Well done 17 June 2020 16: 02
        +1
        I was not lucky. Our windows of the barracks looked out onto the "civilian" and therefore were barred and stuffed tightly. (so that the booze is not transmitted))
  • strannik1985
    strannik1985 17 June 2020 14: 14
    +7
    Pffff, he still hasn’t remembered his greatcoats, sidors - duffel bags, three-fingered gloves, and much more. good
  • svp67
    svp67 17 June 2020 14: 22
    +4
    According to Larson, the Soviet soldiers "used pieces of stinking rags instead of socks."
    You might think that with American soldiers, after a day of socks in boots, socks were fragrant with roses. But the fact that the footcloth and tarpaulin boot is the best combination for the mass army is a fact, an unapplied fact
    1. Far B
      Far B 17 June 2020 14: 27
      +4
      How can you ?! Eto American soldiers. They even fart butterflies, what foot wraps ?!
  • askort154
    askort154 17 June 2020 14: 22
    +6
    The National Interest: "Soviet soldiers were given pieces of rags instead of socks"


    Better look at what the French fled from near Moscow, and the Germans from near Stalingrad. Then Russian "pieces of rags" will appear to you in a different way.
  • novel66
    novel66 17 June 2020 14: 22
    +6
    it’s not as easy to wrap footcloths as it seems

    Sergeant would be good for you ..
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 17 June 2020 14: 50
      +4
      Quote: novel xnumx
      it’s not as easy to wrap footcloths as it seems

      Sergeant would be good for you ..

      Any sergeant in his favor
      1. novel66
        novel66 17 June 2020 14: 54
        +4
        oh gene hi do not say there are such
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 17 June 2020 14: 57
          +2
          Quote: novel xnumx
          oh gene hi do not say there are such

          Roma winked I sense that - "... this bad man will betray us at the first danger."
          1. novel66
            novel66 17 June 2020 15: 04
            +3
            so be it, grab the makeup bag and tear !!
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 17 June 2020 15: 09
              +5
              Quote: novel xnumx
              so be it, grab the makeup bag and tear !!

              Why are you holding him? Let him run. He had a year, three for an escape, five for a kindergarten. Run, run, Johnny. laughing
              1. novel66
                novel66 17 June 2020 15: 12
                0
                no, well, and who is behind the machine gun ??? (and a good movie !!)
          2. sergo1914
            sergo1914 17 June 2020 15: 12
            +3
            Quote: Terenin
            this bad man will betray


            I mean gay? Then the word is spelled differently.
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 17 June 2020 15: 23
              +4
              Quote: sergo1914
              Quote: Terenin
              this bad man will betray


              I mean gay? Then the word is spelled differently.

              As our heroes from
              Quote: novel xnumx
              but a good movie !!
              about the article by K. Larson that the guy - "Bullshit pushes", but there is a tolerant translation winked - "Telling a lie?"
    2. major147
      major147 17 June 2020 15: 13
      +5
      Quote: novel xnumx
      Sergeant would be good for you ..

      Since 1979, I have not shook. Now I’ll wind it for three seconds with my eyes closed!
      1. novel66
        novel66 17 June 2020 15: 15
        +3
        what are we talking about! drinks
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 17 June 2020 19: 38
        0
        Quote: major147
        Quote: novel xnumx
        Sergeant would be good for you ..

        Since 1979, I have not shook. Now I’ll wind it for three seconds with my eyes closed!

        Major, you disappoint me in the Soviet soldier - if he spent 6 seconds on footcloths / boots, then he’s as long as 39 seconds. with the rest of the uniform did to get dressed ?! Smoked or what? laughing
        1. major147
          major147 17 June 2020 20: 31
          -1
          Quote: Doliva63
          Smoked or what?

          Of course you will laugh, but practically "smoked" (although I have not learned to smoke) request
          I was called up for training with a weight of 111 kg and a height of 185 cm, respectively, they gave me a uniform of size 580. After four months of hard training, I weighed exactly 70 kg, but the form remained the same. So on the command "hang up" I would unfasten my trouser belt and unfasten the hook on my jacket and take off my uniform. Dressed on the command "Get up!" in reverse order, so it was time to "smoke"!

          I'm on the right of the sergeant.


          Accordingly, after 4 months.
          1. oldzek
            oldzek 17 June 2020 22: 07
            0
            and on the contrary, I was 68kg came home after 27 months 75kg. Tankers should not be givers!
          2. Glory1974
            Glory1974 18 June 2020 09: 12
            0
            judging by panama, did you serve in TURKVO?
            But there, it seems, the shoes were fit.
            1. major147
              major147 18 June 2020 11: 34
              -1
              Quote: glory1974
              judging by panama, did you serve in TURKVO?
              But there, it seems, the shoes were fit.

              Winter period - boots, summer period (from April) - boots. In the photo - the end of March.
    3. not main
      not main 17 June 2020 22: 44
      0
      Quote: novel xnumx
      it’s not as easy to wrap footcloths as it seems

      Sergeant would be good for you ..

      Not necessary! Rub your feet once and you can already act as an instructor for winding footcloths!
  • Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 17 June 2020 14: 23
    +1
    A Westerner will never understand that footcloths are much more convenient and practical to wear in tarpaulin boots than ordinary socks!
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 17 June 2020 19: 41
      0
      Quote: Ru_Na
      A Westerner will never understand that footcloths are much more convenient and practical to wear in tarpaulin boots than ordinary socks!

      Why only in tarpaulin? In any. I saw how the GDR cooperators in the fields wore boots with footcloths, by the way.
  • Unclebens
    Unclebens 17 June 2020 14: 26
    11
    Let this wise guy look at WWII statistics. There, the Americans themselves admitted that among the non-combat losses in the ranks, there were, precisely, fungal diseases, which were indicated more than 200, which we did not have when using footcloths. So a boot with a footcloth was much more reliable than berets with socks. The footcloth can be turned over if wet, and the feet are again dry. Drying and washing footcloths is much more convenient and faster. And learning how to wind footcloths is a trifling matter. I myself remember how, when I was fired, I almost ran to the barracks to take off my shoes with socks and put on my boots with footcloths, like in slippers, provided that the boot was fitted and well-groomed. Bertsa in those days still did not differ in tightness, and wet legs are pulled together by any sock, and the Kirsuha still needs to be wetted, but then rewound the footcloth upside down, and went on to drive the Germans further.
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 17 June 2020 14: 38
      +2
      Let this wise guy look at WWII statistics. There, the Americans themselves admitted that among the non-combat losses in the ranks, there were, precisely, fungal diseases, which were indicated more than 200, which we did not have when using footcloths.

      This expert cannot read; he is a writer. laughing
      You are absolutely right. Americans in their leather berets sipped problems in the trench mud and cold. In my opinion, somewhere on this site I read the statement of American generals about this problem.
      1. Crane
        Crane 17 June 2020 15: 50
        +1
        As far as I remember, their berets were not made of smooth leather, but something like nubuck. So they got wet with the consequences. Well, it’s easier to pick up water for the shaft because of its height.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 17 June 2020 14: 29
    0
    Uncle Larson - you dur.ak? ... Winding footcloths, ingenuity is needed ... Larson, this science is not mastered and writes all sorts of crap ..
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 17 June 2020 14: 52
      +5
      Quote: parusnik
      Uncle Larson - are you dur.ak?

      Worse, he is an American with the initiative winked
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 17 June 2020 14: 37
    -1
    And what they were given, women’s tights or golfs, pampered Anglo-Saxon nonsense who refuse to fight without juice and dry closet))
  • Tagan
    Tagan 17 June 2020 14: 43
    0
    Quote: parusnik
    Uncle Larson - you dur.ak? ... Winding footcloths, ingenuity is needed ... Larson, this science is not mastered and writes all sorts of crap ..

    No, he's just in slippers)))
  • HMR333
    HMR333 17 June 2020 14: 44
    0
    We went in Nazca when the USSR launched a rocket into space)) what did he write this for Oscar to beat so he wanted to let him try in kirzavoy boots in Nazca?)
  • Unclebens
    Unclebens 17 June 2020 14: 45
    0
    By the way, on TopWar, when there was an article about Kirsuha. A man was dragged out of the camps to arrange the production of tarpaulin boots, they shod the army, and then, moreover, they gave the Stalin Prize. And the Americans dragged on with a second front, because of the fact that they could not arrange the release of kirsuha and footcloths, a footcloth needs a flannel, cotton. wassat
  • Fenia04
    Fenia04 17 June 2020 14: 53
    +4
    I still use footcloths in working berets. Conveniently.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 17 June 2020 15: 06
      +4
      Quote: Fenia04
      I still use footcloths in working berets. Conveniently.

      Eugene, now Caleb Larson may come to cognitive dissonance due to the fact that you know how to reel and wrap footcloths and tie shoelaces laughing
    2. edmed
      edmed 17 June 2020 16: 35
      +2
      Quote: Fenia04
      I still use footcloths in working berets. Conveniently.

      At the main place of work, only in footcloths, they threw them to another site, in socks, their legs burned for 3 days, the sensation of dipping into acid, either age or physiology.
    3. garri-lin
      garri-lin 17 June 2020 18: 52
      0
      Often I went to the forest like that. Officer berets. And a footcloth. You can calmly walk the day.
  • Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus 17 June 2020 14: 59
    +1
    in training (SHMASS military unit 40710) a week later they were already built in the form of "six" (an overcoat without a belt, a hat with lowered ears) platoon exactly one minute after the command "rise"))) With properly wound footcloths. Well, there were, of course, "unique" ones who knocked their legs down a month later))
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 17 June 2020 14: 59
    +1
    = However, Larson stresses, wrapping foot wraps around your leg is not as easy as it seems, using them can be compared to "putting on a leg bandage." Winding Wrong =
    There is nothing easier. When winding footcloths, he never put his foot on the floor.
    He threw his left foot onto his right, sitting, of course, and shook his footcloth. And vice versa.
    I would like to look at him in berets in the swamps of the Caves and forests, swamps and streams of Kostroma. The first Kirzachs served me without missing water for 8 months. Then a report, a visa com. companies, warehouse, - new. And forward again. Of course, somewhere and in sneakers it would be more convenient and better, but where I served, both in winter and in summer, it is better - native boots. And footcloths !!!
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 17 June 2020 15: 03
    +1
    They absorbed moisture, prevented corns and scuffs, and also protected the boots themselves from dirt and stones.
    Yes, the mentality of Mr. Larsen at the level of Greta Tunberg.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 17 June 2020 15: 09
    +1
    Footcloths in the Russian army have been used since the XNUMXth century. For example, the French name for footcloths "chaussette russe" translates as "Russian stocking". Despite the anachronism, footcloths have many advantages. They are stronger, wear less, wrapped in several layers, retain heat better. A footcloth can be made from any piece of fabric. I found footcloths and socks. Personally, I like footcloths better. Really warmer.
  • VicktorVR
    VicktorVR 17 June 2020 15: 19
    +3
    And I like footcloths. For civilian use. In the garden, I always wear boots on footcloths, though I usually wind them over my socks, if it's cold, then over woolen socks. Socks, by the way, are also difficult in kirzach, especially with knitted woolen ones - they are rubbed in a swoop, and everything is fine in footcloths.
    When I went hiking, I wore ankle boots on footcloths, my leg breathes better (high-quality cotton socks cost some wild money, and you can choose any fabric for footcloths to taste and color), they dry in a swing, if necessary, you can just rewind "upside down" - wet part up ...

    By the way, I wonder what cowboys and other pioneers of the wild west wore their boots on.
  • Wolf
    Wolf 17 June 2020 15: 21
    +1
    This rag is a very ancient tradition among SLAVIAN warriors, from Prussia to Kamchatka, when the boots began to be worn. There is still nothing better on this world, but progress is est progress and a new soldier must always be a few pairs of clean socks and rare mityas.
  • BAI
    BAI 17 June 2020 15: 24
    +2
    The National Interest: "Soviet soldiers were given pieces of rags instead of socks"

    The authors of this phrase never wore footcloths, and moreover, they never walked with a load of 50 kg on their shoulders along rough terrain for 70 km in 30 degree heat.
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 17 June 2020 17: 17
      -3
      in English the word rag is not. Good quality shoes do not spoil your feet. And we sew boots in the zones. So, from smells and sweating, you can also use drugs, let's say the same boric acid. At the front, bending was treated with soot from paper. They say it helped.
  • Ham
    Ham 17 June 2020 15: 25
    0
    that Russian fun is death for a German
  • tolancop
    tolancop 17 June 2020 15: 38
    +2
    Quote: Vasyan1971
    Quote: Terenin
    Nothing special . A minute and you no longer smell anything

    Yes. But you will come in from fresh air - like a butt on your forehead!

    Feet should be washed and footcloths washed in a timely manner. I agree, not everyone had such opportunities, but I had. And my barracks at the entrance to the forehead somehow did not flaunt smells ...
  • Blackgrifon
    Blackgrifon 17 June 2020 15: 45
    0
    "And also a bloody slaughter of hundreds of millions, slavery, etc." - already tired of their cranberries.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 17 June 2020 16: 16
    +5
    And also our soldiers were given some pieces of McGork leaves instead of Lucky Strike, and in order to use them it was necessary to master the art of spinning a cigarette from a piece of newspaper. What was incredibly difficult, it is even sung in songs about very good comrades who could "you gave me a smoke".
    But from the song this "McGork" was smoked in the infantry. About tankers, pilots and sailors nothing is known - maybe they smoked pipes or cigars.
    Artillerymen, on the command to "light up", began to carry shells and shoot at the Germans twice as often. Those Germans asked to "light a cigarette" and they were generally smokers there - no history is known. Those caught by a volley of guards mortars quit smoking exactly once and for all.
  • Duxan
    Duxan 17 June 2020 16: 29
    -4
    They don’t know how else to shit in our souls before the Victory Parade .. If they were wound correctly they saved the feet of many of our soldiers .. This is a great invention of that time! Simple, effective, reliable .. Before Berlin, we actually reached Pawn on foot if necessary also we can .. hi
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 17 June 2020 16: 31
    +1
    According to Larson, the Soviet soldiers "used pieces of stinking rags instead of socks."

    Of course, their socks have a pleasant aroma. laughing fool
    1. oldzek
      oldzek 17 June 2020 22: 11
      0
      For so long they know that their d.r.r.m.o does not smell.
  • Hort
    Hort 17 June 2020 16: 48
    +1
    ... A boot doesn’t give a damn about any brownish and dirty terrain, and in boots, even with a solid “tongue”, you can type “full ankle boots”. And the sock absorbs any moisture worse than a "piece of stinking rag"
    "they used pieces of stinky rags instead of socks."
    he was given a smell of dirty footcloth laughing
    1. Motorist
      Motorist 17 June 2020 20: 56
      0
      Quote: hort
      he was given a smell of dirty footcloth

      And in "NI" there is an article in the "Armaments" section. laughing
  • Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 17 June 2020 17: 05
    -1
    Propaganda as it is. They took a fact and turned it inside out. No shame, no conscience, no brains ...
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 June 2020 17: 21
    0
    This author from NI is just a dumb scribbler.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 17 June 2020 18: 04
    +2
    By the way, footcloths were also used in the army of the GDR of the year until about 68, and in the Finnish army, footcloths were abandoned only in 1990. laughing And experts estimate that 40 pairs of socks are needed to replace one pair of footcloths. Maybe they lied somewhere, but the lifespan of the sock in the boot is very short.
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 17 June 2020 18: 07
    +1
    The National Interest: "Soviet soldiers were given pieces of rags instead of socks"


    Oh, and savages, these "Western partners"))
    What warriors are they, if they don’t know what footcloths are))

    Although they themselves wore instead of boots.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 17 June 2020 18: 13
    +1
    And what did the armies of other states go during the Second World War (well, or for haters of everything related to the history of Russia - we’ll make a list of the backward). In 1940, more than 60% of British soldiers and officers wore windings. By 1942, almost all of them had received .... no, not boots. Leggings. Such cloth things on shoes.
    Wrap-around boots were the staple footwear of the French army until the early 1950s. True, units manned by some of the warring parties (after 1940) received the uniform of their "masters." Canada repeated the traditions of the British army. And in uniforms including. Boots, in the Second World War were not a sign of "modernity" or "not modern" army. Of the large countries, only Germany was able to provide about 60% of those called up with boots. The rest were content with boots with leggings or windings. laughing
  • Klingon
    Klingon 17 June 2020 18: 20
    -1
    Well, yes, the Soviet / Russian army in this sense remained archaic.
    And now let the patriots explain to me a doctor from a physiological point of view the advantages of footcloths over ergonomic tracking socks
  • Bez 310
    Bez 310 17 June 2020 18: 34
    -1
    For 4 (four) years I wore boots at a military school at the very
    Soviet time. Learned how to wind the footcloths
    and used footcloths until he "grew" out of them.
    As soon as the commanders stopped paying attention to footcloths,
    I immediately switched to woolen knitted socks with kapron
    "tracks", and they were not demolished.
    How tired of these "patriots" with their sweet memories
    about this stinky piece of rag!
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 June 2020 22: 23
      +1
      If I have to use boots (often rubber), I only wrap them with footcloths.
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 17 June 2020 22: 34
        +1
        Matter of habit...
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 17 June 2020 19: 07
    0
    And these wild Russians with pieces of rags captured Berlin three times, but the striped mattresses didn’t work out well))) Looks, socks interfered)))
  • pexotinec
    pexotinec 18 June 2020 02: 48
    0
    They already do not like our footcloths. What are they getting to the bottom of?
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 18 June 2020 07: 46
    0
    )))) Socks are good .. only in peacetime)) at the time of the fighting they are not good from them))) so)) we will return to it again)))
  • An64
    An64 18 June 2020 09: 10
    0
    The American was a little mistaken - not Shoigu, but Serdyukov introduced berets with socks for the soldiers instead of the pickaxes with footcloths.
  • English tarantas
    English tarantas 18 June 2020 11: 02
    0
    Funny, my father served in the border troops. In kirzach, a lot of foot-wear took place; already with me, I walked for long in socks. And even when he became a grandfather, he was euphoric from the ability to wear sneakers, and tried a bunch of all kinds of socks for berets, the combination is better than the canvas-tarpaulin to this day. He also says (I just never wore it myself) that the footcloth is good because after the foot sweats the footcloth you just need to wind it on the other side, and the foot is dry and the footcloth also dries.
  • scrap123
    scrap123 18 June 2020 16: 54
    0
    in vain they canceled the footcloths, I know by myself that when in the steppe + 50-70 the sock immediately lifts lip nit and in place with the skin is removed, and so the winter footcloth is clothed and all the moisture in it.
  • megadeth
    megadeth 18 June 2020 18: 39
    0
    Lord !!! ??? the footcloths were canceled, because the berets introduced instead of boots ... But the footcloths are a great thing, you don’t need to understand and explain to foreigners .. And of our who really served, he knows, and the one who perceives the army from the DMB series and from the Soldiers, cannot be explained to that ...
  • bbss
    bbss 19 June 2020 00: 20
    0
    Really ... dumb.
  • Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 19 June 2020 09: 50
    0
    They absorbed moisture, prevented corns and scuffs, and also protected the boots themselves from dirt and stones.

    Here we are talking about footcloths, but how could they protect the boots from dirt and stones while inside the boot ... Maybe they still protected the legs ?!
    The second inaccuracy is that I wore socks in the summer of 2011, so they started switching from footcloths to socks earlier.
  • pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 19 June 2020 22: 42
    0
    In principle, when jogging 6 km with all gas masks and machine guns, the main thing is to feel in time that the footcloth has gone astray. Slow down, rewind and again the legs feel great. Did the Kirzachs help at home very well - to dig the ground in sneakers or with the hard soles of the Kirzachs? During construction: nails are not scary, in the heat plus thirty he worked - much better than a relative in work boots ... Although, two pairs of boots, like army ones, were my favorite (as professional walkers, ultrasonic rail inspectors were given a pair of summer and winter Here it was really necessary to put on two pairs of socks: cotton and woolen ... Although, at minus forty, you stand on bare rubble (the snow was blown out by trains) and now it gives the memory of frostbite. It's hard to walk 16 kilometers in felt boots (and there were such lengths with the heating booths destroyed by the owners of Russian Railways (unaesthetic!). The "goodbye youth" with a high bootleg from the snow were quite successful. The fabric top took off steam, the rubber on the sole did not let the melt water through ...