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Israeli media: Putin saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu revealed details of behind-the-scenes events regarding the Palestinian issue. He claims that Russian President Vladimir Putin supported Israel’s position by stopping Barack Obama from realizing his plans.


About this writes the Israeli edition of Israel Hayom.

All the events described took place on the sidelines of the UN Security Council about four years ago. Then, Russia used the veto to block the UN Security Council resolution promoted by Barack Obama and contrary to Israeli interests.

About six months ago, Benjamin Netanyahu revealed some details of this case. He mentioned a certain leader of one of the superpowers with the right of veto to vote against the resolution in order to maintain relative stability in this part of the Middle East. Later, the Israeli prime minister spoke more specifically and added details to this stories.

Shortly before the events described, in December 2016, the UN adopted a resolution condemning Israel for the occupation of Arab territories captured during the Six Day War. These actions of Tel Aviv were recognized as a violation of international law.

Further, Barack Obama, whose presidential term was ending, proposed to adopt another resolution. It envisioned the creation of an independent Palestinian state within the borders of 1948.

Benjamin Netanyahu called Putin and asked to block this decision of the UN Security Council in order to maintain stability in the region. The arguments of the Israeli prime minister convinced the president of the Russian Federation. He told Netanyahu that if the resolution were put to a vote, the Russian Federation would veto it. He also informed Barack Obama about this. The American leader, in order not to harm the country's image, decided to abandon his idea and not bring it to the UN for discussion.

Thus, because of Vladimir Putin, the creation of a Palestinian state within the borders of 1948 had to be postponed, which Israel was extremely happy about.
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  1. Machete
    Machete 17 June 2020 09: 22 New
    +8
    Do you want to change the name?
    It seems to be one letter, but the meaning is completely changing.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 17 June 2020 09: 29 New
      +5
      Quote: Machete
      Do you want to change the name?
      It seems to be one letter, but the meaning is completely changing.


      Israeli Media: Putinа saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories

      Benjamin Netanyahu called Putin and asked to block this decision of the UN Security Council in order to maintain stability in the region. The arguments of the Israeli prime minister convinced the president of the Russian Federation. He told Netanyahu that if the resolution were put to a vote, the Russian Federation would veto it. He also informed Barack Obama about this. The American leader, in order not to harm the country's image, decided to abandon his idea and not bring it to the UN for discussion.

      Thus, because of Vladimir Putin, the creation of a Palestinian state within the borders of 1948 had to be postponed, which Israel was extremely happy about.

      Here it is,political backstage.
      1. Civil
        Civil 17 June 2020 10: 49 New
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        It is a pity there is no one to intercede for Russia and the Russians.
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 17 June 2020 12: 29 New
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          It is a pity there is no one to intercede for Russia and the Russians.

          Do you live badly? Are you suffering The master whip whips on the back? Are the robbers torn at night in the hut? Al want to do nothing and have everything? But it doesn’t work out? What for you to intercede then? Do you want communism? Maybe you can’t see it in the mirror?
          1. Civil
            Civil 17 June 2020 12: 49 New
            +3
            Quote: Interlocutor
            It is a pity there is no one to intercede for Russia and the Russians.

            Do you live badly? Are you suffering The master whip whips on the back? Are the robbers torn at night in the hut? Al want to do nothing and have everything? But it doesn’t work out? What for you to intercede then? Do you want communism? Maybe you can’t see it in the mirror?

            Don’t you please, BARIN is worried, he will endure the Russian man, sometimes he’s a little shocked by fines and taxes ... well, it’s nothing, he will growl and go back to the booth.
            1. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 17 June 2020 12: 50 New
              -15
              sometimes fines and taxes go a little shocked

              You have been tortured by fines and taxes. Do you need to be protected from them?
              1. Civil
                Civil 17 June 2020 13: 37 New
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                Quote: Interlocutor
                sometimes fines and taxes go a little shocked

                You have been tortured by fines and taxes. Do you need to be protected from them?

                What are you, what are you ... we ourselves will be at the Stables, because on the contrary we wish the LORD to give everything, raise still tax rates, add to the beard, to a new yacht, fines for rare fines, gasoline, utilities, ... everything is not for you kindly worried.
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 17 June 2020 21: 33 New
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                  Yes, do not care about the Palestinian question.
                  Russia did not vote for Israel.
                  Russia voted AGAINST USA
                  1. borberd
                    borberd 18 June 2020 13: 03 New
                    -4
                    And certainly not for free. But what they paid for is another question.
                    1. ccsr
                      ccsr 21 June 2020 17: 06 New
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                      Quote: borberd
                      But what they paid for is another question.

                      But what the Israelis pay us for the fact that our ancestors saved them from destruction by the Nazis:
                      In the NATO maneuvers in Germany, Israeli paratroopers took part. According to the scenario, they # captured the Russian village .., the Germans were embarrassed to post a video, and the Jews: "Our enemies are Russians, and our goal is to capture Russian villages. Our friends and comrades are the Bundeswehr." #sberbank

                      1. borberd
                        borberd 21 June 2020 18: 40 New
                        +1
                        No need to stick on. My ancestors also fought. And they fought well, 3-5th place in the Heroes of the Soviet Union. And the whole Soviet people fought, and not just "your" ancestors, especially since yours - could well have been on the other side among the Vlasovites, which mine could not do. And yet, when many were in concentration camps, your ancestors with the Germans arranged maneuvers in the 39th. But when the Nazis attacked you, then - yes, they saved ... walking. In any case, we, unlike you, never trained terrorists who fought against your civilians. But you, not only supplied the Arabs with weapons, but you yourself have fought against us for 40 years. I'm not talking about the fact that the security services controlled and directed all the PLO terrorist acts against us. You can tell a lot, but this is enough for the eyes.
                      2. ccsr
                        ccsr 22 June 2020 12: 31 New
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                        Quote: borberd
                        No need to stick on.

                        Why should I attach myself if my grandfather and uncle died at the front, and my father is a participant in the war? You in Israel apparently forgot about the Tashkent Front, but he was there and there were many of yours.
                        Quote: borberd
                        And yet, when many were in concentration camps, your ancestors with the Germans arranged maneuvers in the 39th.

                        Lies - it wasn’t like that.
                        Quote: borberd
                        But you, not only supplied the Arabs with weapons, but you yourself have fought against us for 40 years.

                        So Stalin first supplied the Israelites with arms and created the state of Israel, but his citizens were ungrateful to the leader, and so the vector of help had to be changed. If not for your cunning, maybe this would not have happened at all.
                        Quote: borberd
                        You can tell a lot, but this is enough for the eyes.

                        You don’t tell a nifiga, because no one believes in your version, which justifies the seizure of Palestinian lands. But you continue to mutter how everyone is oppressing and oppressing you, but we all know that all your lies are designed to receive dividends from the tragedies of the Second World War.
                      3. borberd
                        borberd 22 June 2020 16: 05 New
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                        Quote: ccsr

                        Why should I attach myself if my grandfather and uncle died at the front, and my father is a participant in the war? You in Israel apparently forgot about the Tashkent Front, but he was there and there were many of yours.

                        You dear, live in some kind of fictional world like you. And everything that you see or hear, you pass through the prism of this world of yours. Jews are weak in it, they didn’t fight, and if they were, then only on the "Tashkent front". The facts are weakly correlated with your attitude. And the facts are that - Jews fought at the front much better and in greater numbers than many, many other nationalities of the USSR. This can be seen by the number of feats and awards received by the Jews of the USSR.

                        Quote: ccsr
                        Quote: borberd
                        And yet, when many were in concentration camps, your ancestors with the Germans arranged maneuvers in the 39th.

                        Lies - it wasn’t like that.

                        The fact that you don’t know your story is bad. But the fact that with aplomb is broadcasting that this is a lie is even worse. Guderian came to Kazan on maneuvers in the 39th. Colonels Keitel and Brauhich attended the maneuvers of the Belarusian Military District .SSSR helped train pilots and tankers of the Wehrmacht. And these are historically proven facts that no one refutes ... except of course you

                        Quote: ccsr
                        Quote: borberd
                        But you, not only supplied the Arabs with weapons, but you yourself have fought against us for 40 years.

                        So Stalin first supplied the Israelites with arms and created the state of Israel, but his citizens were ungrateful to the leader, and so the vector of help had to be changed. If not for your cunning, maybe this would not have happened at all.

                        It's funny to watch you get out lol . Stalin did not create the state of Israel. The supply of weapons at speculative prices - 12-14 times more expensive than the cost - is not help at all. Stalin acted against Britain, and not for Israel. The Israelis turned their backs when Stalin began killing Jewish creative intigents and inspired the Doctors' Case.

                        Quote: ccsr
                        Quote: borberd
                        You can tell a lot, but this is enough for the eyes.

                        You don’t tell a nifiga, because no one believes in your version, which justifies the seizure of Palestinian lands. But you continue to mutter how everyone is oppressing and oppressing you, but we all know that all your lies are designed to receive dividends from the tragedies of the Second World War.

                        Before you look at a speck in a stranger's eye, remove a log from your own for a start. You have enough of these "Palestinians" for a hundred of Israel. If tight with memory, I can recall laughing
                      4. ccsr
                        ccsr 22 June 2020 18: 04 New
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                        Quote: borberd
                        You dear, live in some kind of fictional world like you.

                        No, I live in Russia and we have a different view of your state and its citizens.
                        Quote: borberd
                        And the facts are that - Jews fought at the front much better and in greater numbers than many, many other nationalities of the USSR.

                        This is all Israeli propaganda, and Soviet citizens fought, not Israeli citizens, so do not stick to the Soviet citizens.
                        Quote: borberd
                        But the fact that with aplomb is broadcasting that this is a lie is even worse. Guderian came to Kazan on maneuvers in the 39th. Colonels Keitel and Braukhich attended the maneuvers of the Belarusian Military District.

                        Take it easy, amateur - the presence of observers in maneuvers is not the same as the participation of armies of different countries in them. And Guderian came to the USSR with an inspection in 1932, and all cooperation was terminated after Hitler came to power. Enlighten, verbiage:
                        Thus, it was not the “German sword” that was forged in the Union, but rather, on the contrary, the Germans helped us in the 1920s – early 1930s to create the foundations of modern tank, air force, chemical forces and defense industries.
                        It turns out that Moscow was not distinguished by stupidity in those years, but by a high state mind, using the maximum benefits of cooperation with Germany.

                        https://topwar.ru/4015-mif-o-tom-chto-v-sssr-kovalsya-fashistskij-mech.html
                        Quote: borberd
                        when Stalin started killing Jewish creative intigents and inspired the Doctors' Case.

                        Like all liars, you "forgot" that dozens of doctors went through the doctors 'case who were accused of collaborating with an American organization, and that all those arrested in the "doctors' case" were released (April 3) and reinstated. It was officially announced (April 4) that the confessions of the accused were obtained using “unacceptable methods of investigation”. Colonel Ryumin, who was developing the "doctors' case," (by then already dismissed from the state security organs), was immediately arrested by order of Beria. But Genakh Gershenovich Yagoda, the People’s Commissar of the NKVD, destroyed hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the camps and cooked up fake cases where people were shot. So the “doctors’ case ”didn’t stand close to the atrocities of the same Berry and therefore stop lying about the“ doctors ’case”.
                        Quote: borberd
                        If it’s tight with memory, I can remind you

                        Remind who Frenkel is and how he destroyed people in the Gulag so that the participation of Jews in the tragedy of our country would be clear.
                      5. borberd
                        borberd 23 June 2020 13: 15 New
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                        If at least one percent has the same look, then I do not envy your fellow tribesmen ... well, maybe at least they would be beautiful. Do you contradict yourself, in the beginning - "the Jews fought on the Tashkent front", and now this is "Israeli propaganda and the Soviet people fought in general"? Do you even understand how stupid this statement looks?
                        Observers are sent precisely to the allies, or by agreement with the enemy. The USSR was precisely an ally until June 22, 1941, and not until 1933, when Hitler came to power. Guderian and Keitel came running as allies. The USSR, bypassing the Treaty of Versailles (which forbade the Germans from training pilots and tankers), trained personnel for the German army. I could teach you stories, but it’s not a horse’s feed. In short - the educational program is over, everything else is on the Internet.
                        I don’t even want to answer the rest of the nonsense about Yagoda and others. Push this blizzard to a different audience.
                      6. ccsr
                        ccsr 23 June 2020 13: 46 New
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                        Quote: borberd
                        I could teach you stories, but it’s not a horse’s feed.

                        And you better argue with the historian S.V. Naumov, who dealt with this issue professionally:

                        It should be noted that the first Soviet camps * arose even during the Civil War. The initiator of their creation was L. Trotsky (Leiba Davidovich Bronstein), which on August 4, 1918, in a telegram to the Vologda Provincial Commissar indicated: “The detention of suspects in concentration camps is a necessary condition for success” (Military History Journal, 1989, No. 8, p. 53).

                        https://newsland.com/community/4109/content/spisok-glavnykh-palachei-nachalnikov-lagerei/5453708
  • iouris
    iouris 17 June 2020 23: 00 New
    -1
    Quote: Civil
    It is a pity there is no one to intercede for Russia and the Russians.

    God will rule. Do not bother, and everything will be fine (as always).
  • ccsr
    ccsr 17 June 2020 13: 42 New
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    Quote: Insurgent
    Here it is, the political backstage ...

    Doesn’t it bother you that the article appeared just at the moment of voting on amendments to the Constitution, and even in a country where all citizens just dream of being our “brothers”, like Ukrainians? By the way, since when has the veto imposed on the UN decision been hidden from the public? Or does someone think that such a veto is imposed without discussion with the president?
    What smells unscrupulous here, and knowing the Israelis as “reliable” partners in the robbery of Russia, and where the stolen capital and convicted criminals are hiding from us, I doubt that everything that is stated in the article is exactly how they try to present it to us .
    1. flicker
      flicker 18 June 2020 01: 41 New
      -3
      Doesn’t it bother you that the article appeared just at the moment of voting on amendments to the Constitution, and even in a country where all citizens just dream of being our “brothers”, like Ukrainians?
      Even as embarrassing.
      What is only one headline: "Israeli media: Putin saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories"
      In fact, the situation on the warhead was always explosive, it is enough to strike a match and then it will be difficult to put out the war on fire.
      Russia seeks to stabilize the situation and, accordingly, is trying to be the guarantor of this stability, and much is being achieved there.
      ---
      Accordingly, the Israeli media could write that thanks to the efforts of Russia in 2016, it was possible to avoid a large BV war, which could result in thousands and thousands of dead Arabs and Jews.
      And how is it written?
      Like, Putin (not Russia, namely Putin, although the Security Council of Russia makes similar decisions) helped Israel save the occupied territories. wassat

      Like, if not for Putin, then Israel would have remained without the occupied territories.
      Israel would be left not only without occupied territories, but also without Jews.

      The year 2016 was still fighting, but it was already clear that his days were already numbered. He urgently needed help. The war of the Arabs with Israel could act as such, where the igil would take the side of the Arabs and as a result not the Arabs would win, but the igil. In fact, the entire Arab population would merge into the igil. To defend Syria in these conditions would be extremely difficult.
      ---
      Those. Russia did not allow the outbreak of war in the BV, which allowed to defend Syria and gain a foothold on its territory as a stabilizing force in the BV.
      ---
      But even this circumstance, the Israeli media manage to deploy against Russia.
  • Bar1
    Bar1 17 June 2020 10: 13 New
    +5
    Putin is more interested in Jews, but he himself says that he is Russian, probably lying, as with his retirement age.
    1. flicker
      flicker 17 June 2020 10: 28 New
      -6
      Putin is more interested in Jews
      bully
      Condemn Putin for supposedly helping Jews (i.e., your Jews are not worthy of help)
      And at the same time refer (i.e. believe) to the Jewish media wassat
      1. Bar1
        Bar1 17 June 2020 11: 39 New
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        Quote: flicker
        Putin is more interested in Jews
        bully
        Condemn Putin for supposedly helping Jews (i.e., your Jews are not worthy of help)
        And at the same time refer (i.e. believe) to the Jewish media wassat

        I believe that the Russians require help ...
        1. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 17 June 2020 12: 30 New
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          I believe that the Russians require help ...


          And how can you help Russian?
          1. Bar1
            Bar1 17 June 2020 12: 33 New
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            Quote: Interlocutor
            I believe that the Russians require help ...


            And how can you help Russian?

            you need to put the Russians at the helm of the state, turn on the Russian culture and Russian religion, you need to return the Russian way of life, can you do something?
            1. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 17 June 2020 12: 36 New
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              you need to put the Russians at the helm of the state, turn on the Russian culture and Russian religion, you need to return the Russian way of life, can you do something?


              No no . Run to the northern islands. Look for a cave to see people every 5 years sailing by. THERE WILL BE RUSSIAN. Around.
            2. businessv
              businessv 18 June 2020 19: 08 New
              +1
              Quote: Bar1
              to put the Russians at the helm of the state, include Russian culture and Russian religion
              Pancake! Are you writing this on purpose ?! Two letters C should be in this word! Russian Russia! You corrected, you again! request
        2. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 17 June 2020 14: 27 New
          +5
          Quote: Bar1
          I believe that the Russians require help ...

          Just not from the Jews !!! And indeed from no one.
        3. flicker
          flicker 17 June 2020 14: 54 New
          -1
          Russians need help
          Who do they "require" help from?
  • CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 17 June 2020 09: 24 New
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    because of Vladimir Putin, the creation of a Palestinian state within the borders of 1948 had to be postponed, which Israel was extremely happy about

    Well yes. Glad, glad .... Who would doubt it. Have you ever said thanks?
    1. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 17 June 2020 09: 34 New
      30
      But did they say thanks to Stalin for their assistance in creating the state of Israel? Every centimeter of this country is occupied by Jews. So nothing live somehow
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 17 June 2020 17: 02 New
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        Quote: seregatara1969
        But did they say thanks to Stalin for their assistance in creating the state of Israel?

        Especially for those who still think that storks bring children.
        I will not in any way belittle the merits of the USSR in the creation of a Jewish state. Of the 33 states that voted "FOR" - 3 votes were from the USSR and 2 more from its satellites. (33 votes in favor, 13 against, 10 abstained.
        The votes are not decisive, but Israel is grateful to all and little Haiti and the great USSR - in the General Assembly all votes are equal and you can’t veto it.

        However, one more side to this issue should be understood. The creation of Israel naturally pushed Britain out of a strategically important region and could enable the USSR to take its place. The words of Stalin are widely known:
        “Let's agree with the formation of Israel. It will be like an awl in the ass for the Arab states and will make them turn their back on Britain. Ultimately, British influence will be completely undermined in Egypt, Syria, Turkey and Iraq. ”


        After the end of World War II, Great Britain could no longer hold its colonies and many of them gained independence. Palestine was no exception. Whether the UN would vote for the partition or not, the Jewish state by that time already existed de facto. It had its own government, the police and the armed forces, banks and enterprises, schools and the post office ...

        Yes, Joseph Vissarionovich graciously allowed Czechoslovakia to supply arms to Israel. He really needed a currency. The USSR lay in ruins, it needed to be restored, nothing but minerals and forests could be sold for currency, only they still needed to be mined and chopped.
        In short, the supply of weapons was not critical. They limited themselves to two dozen converted “Messerschmitts” at astronomical prices and small arms. Avia S-199 was delivered to Israel at a price of $ 180 per aircraft. For comparison: Americans sold fighters for $ 000, and bombers for $ 15 per plane.

        Palestinian Air Services purchased $ 46 C-5 Commando medium transport aircraft, $ 000 apiece C-69 Constellation four-engine transport aircraft, and $ 15 B-000 heavy bombers purchased in different countries.

        War was still going on in Palestine, and the world famous theater director and Jewish public figure Solomon Mikhoels had already been killed by the USSR Ministry of State Security, the Slansky Affair inspired by the Ministry of State Security in Czechoslovakia (11 were sentenced to death, three were sentenced to life imprisonment, there, among other things, they will blame those weapons for Israel, although it is Slansky who is the only one who objected to these deliveries), The Case of Doctors, The Fight against Cosmopolitans, and other very serious repressions against Jews. Israel has never been afraid of domestic anti-Semitism. On the contrary, the more domestic workers put pressure on Jews, the greater their number comes to Israel. Israel has always been afraid of state anti-Semitism. All this could not please the young Jewish state and it, for all its socialist essence (yes, idealist socialists created Israel, the Communist Party and trade unions were very strong there at that time), went under the wing of the West, and the USSR began to help Arab countries. So, pouring crocodile tears is too late.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 18 June 2020 00: 37 New
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          A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov) The votes are not decisive, but Israel is grateful to everyone and little Haiti and the great USSR - in the General Assembly all votes are equal and you can’t put a veto there.

          Are equal. Only the UN General Assembly Resolutions, unlike the UNSC Resolutions, are advisory in nature and not mandatory ... therefore, return the Gollan and the water sources next to them to the working people of the SAR ... by following the UNSC resolution ... and you will be happy .. (probably) ....
          Say thanks to the UK that it abstained, and did not raise the question “ribbed” at the UN Security Council ...
          the Jewish state had already existed de facto. It had its own government, the police and the armed forces, banks and enterprises, schools and the post office ...

          Yes, there were separate kibbutzim and Jewish terrorist groups that equally hated the British, the Arabs, including the British periodically incited Jews ... (I don’t remember the author of the book “To the East and West of Suez”, L. Garth also described this period well in the “Indirect Action Strategy”) ... about USSR assistance to Israel in the first Arab-Israeli the war is also well described there, and the delivery was carried out not only in the form of B and BT, but also by officers, former underground and partisans, most of whom were not Jews ... it was thanks to the USSR that Israel was not destroyed in that war ... for many portraits of Stalin still hang in Israel’s old people ...
          After the end of World War II, Great Britain could no longer hold its colonies and many of them gained independence. Palestine was no exception.

          Again they took up the old? Palestine is the same colony of Great Britain as Syria is the colony of France, now gullible forum users will search in the search engines for the two words "League of the nation" and "mandated territories" and will understand that you are deceiving them again at night looking ... Ashamed ...
          So, pouring crocodile tears is too late.

          This eternal Jewish "modesty", which is why it is the Israeli Jews who think that the rest of humanity is afraid for the fate of Israel ...

          Good night....
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 18 June 2020 06: 04 New
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            Quote: Lara Croft
            Only UNGA Resolutions, unlike UNSC Resolutions, are advisory in nature, and not binding

            In fact, everything is exactly the opposite.
            Mandatory are exclusively resolutions of the UN General Assembly. So, for example, is obligatory for execution:
            UN Plan for Partition of Palestine - adopted on November 29, 1947 by resolution No. 181 of the United Nations General Assembly. (33 votes in favor, 13 against, 10 abstained)

            Exactly as required:
            UN General Assembly Resolution A / RES / 68/262 on the territorial integrity of Ukraine - adopted March 27, 2014. According to the resolution, the UN General Assembly confirms the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders and does not recognize the legality of any change in the status of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the status of the city of Sevastopol, based on the results of the general Crimean referendum held on March 16, 2014, since this referendum , according to this resolution, has no legal force.
            Of the 193 UN member countries, 100 voted in favor, 11 voted against, 58 abstained, and 24 did not vote.


            Rђ RІRѕS, UN Security Council Resolutions are only advisory in naturealas. Therefore, in spite of UN Security Council Resolution No. 497, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to Bashar Khafezovich. hi

            That's right. Palestine was the same colony of Great Britain, as Syria - a colony of France. It is under the mandates of the League of Nations.
            The French mandate lasted until 1943, Syria and Lebanon gained independence in 1946. Two years before Israel. There were no such states before the mandate. All this was the territory of the Ottoman Empire. In BV almost all states are remodelers.
            The British mandate ended in 1948 with the creation of the state of Israel.
            I’m here in VO, I’m probably writing for the hundredth time that in 1947, the United Nations gave the Arabs and Jews a ticket for the Train of History. The Jews accepted it with gratitude, and the Arabs began to dog and, right on the day of the proclamation of Independence, the whole crowd attacked the new-born Jewish state. For what they got tight on the horns and crawled off to lick their wounds.
            As a result, it is clear to everyone (but not everyone understands this) that History decreed in its own way: Israel is 72 years old, a quite prosperous state that has turned the desert into a garden of Eden, with a long life expectancy, with a strong army, excellent medicine, a powerful high-tech and military industry, with 100 billion exports, and Arabs to this day ride on donkeys cursing the Jews and blaming them for all their troubles ...

            Quote: Lara Croft
            delivery was carried out not only in the form of B and BT, but also by officers, former underground workers and partisans, most of whom were not Jews ... it was thanks to the USSR that Israel was not destroyed in that war ...

            I already wrote once that the myth of "Soviet volunteers" who allegedly took part in the Israeli War of Independence can be found on the net. Facts completely expose this myth. In Israel, there is a special organization of volunteers - "Mahal". This organization has lists of about 4 volunteers, including men, women, Jews and non-Jews from 400 countries who came to the aid of the Jewish state during the difficult days of the War of Independence. There are no volunteers from the USSR.
            It is known that the creation of Israel caused a stream of appeals of Soviet Jews to the authorities of the USSR with a request to send them as volunteers to the fighting Jewish state. The Soviet authorities brutally suppressed this truly popular movement. A number of people who made such requests or tried to leave were illegally convicted by Soviet punitive bodies.
            As for the old people with portraits of Stalin, and even many ... The usual common bike.
            There was, at the time, a very strong Communist Party. Despite its small size, it occupied a serious niche in local politics. It still exists and is even represented in the Knesset, but there are almost only Arabs there. Well, the portraits of Stalin ended after the 20th Congress of the CPSU, which is quite natural.
            Something like that. hi
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 18 June 2020 19: 55 New
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              Quote: A. Privalov
              Quote: Lara Croft
              Only UNGA Resolutions, unlike UNSC Resolutions, are advisory in nature, and not binding

              In fact, everything is exactly the opposite.
              Mandatory are exclusively resolutions of the UN General Assembly.

              Not at all. You have not learned a lesson.
              Otherwise, provide sources of international law confirming your writings.
              But the UN Security Council Resolutions are only advisory in nature, alas. Therefore, in spite of UN Security Council Resolution No. 497, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to Bashar Khafezovich.

              Yes, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to the working people of the SAR, not because allegedly The UN Security Council resolution is advisory in nature, but because Israel does not care about the UN ...
              I already wrote once that the myth of "Soviet volunteers" who allegedly took part in the Israeli War of Independence can be found on the net. Facts completely expose this myth.

              Yes, there are many who have already written something, if everyone was taken seriously, in VO, data mining with a server would have been done for a long time ...
              So write that you seem to be 100 years old, maybe you took part in the first Arab-Israeli war ...?
              In Israel, there is a special organization of volunteers - "Mahal". This organization has lists of about 4 volunteers, including men, women, Jews and non-Jews from 400 countries who came to the aid of the Jewish state during the difficult days of the War of Independence. There are no volunteers from the USSR.

              And in the center of Tbilisi, is there a museum of "Soviet occupation" and what, can the genocide of Georgians be recognized by the Soviet Union?
              Russia has received enough examples over the centuries of its existence that you will never receive from saved thanks, therefore it will no longer save anyone, developing its territory it will be viewed from the side ....
              Well, the portraits of Stalin ended after the 20th Congress of the CPSU

              Did you personally take the last off the wall?
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 19 June 2020 00: 06 New
                -1
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Quote: A. Privalov
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Only UNGA Resolutions, unlike UNSC Resolutions, are advisory in nature, and not binding

                In fact, everything is exactly the opposite.
                Mandatory are exclusively resolutions of the UN General Assembly.

                Not at all. You have not learned a lesson.
                Otherwise, provide sources of international law confirming your writings.
                But the UN Security Council Resolutions are only advisory in nature, alas. Therefore, in spite of UN Security Council Resolution No. 497, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to Bashar Khafezovich.

                Yes, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to the working people of the SAR, not because allegedly The UN Security Council resolution is advisory in nature, but because Israel does not care about the UN ...
                I already wrote once that the myth of "Soviet volunteers" who allegedly took part in the Israeli War of Independence can be found on the net. Facts completely expose this myth.

                Yes, there are many who have already written something, if everyone was taken seriously, in VO, data mining with a server would have been done for a long time ...
                So write that you seem to be 100 years old, maybe you took part in the first Arab-Israeli war ...?
                In Israel, there is a special organization of volunteers - "Mahal". This organization has lists of about 4 volunteers, including men, women, Jews and non-Jews from 400 countries who came to the aid of the Jewish state during the difficult days of the War of Independence. There are no volunteers from the USSR.

                And in the center of Tbilisi, is there a museum of "Soviet occupation" and what, can the genocide of Georgians be recognized by the Soviet Union?
                Russia has received enough examples over the centuries of its existence that you will never receive from saved thanks, therefore it will no longer save anyone, developing its territory it will be viewed from the side ....
                Well, the portraits of Stalin ended after the 20th Congress of the CPSU

                Did you personally take the last off the wall?

                In this case, my dear, I do not dare to delay it anymore. hi
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 19 June 2020 05: 25 New
                  -2
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Only UNGA Resolutions, unlike UNSC Resolutions, are advisory in nature, and not binding

                  In fact, everything is exactly the opposite.
                  Mandatory are exclusively resolutions of the UN General Assembly.

                  Not at all. You have not learned a lesson.
                  Otherwise, provide sources of international law confirming your writings.
                  But the UN Security Council Resolutions are only advisory in nature, alas. Therefore, in spite of UN Security Council Resolution No. 497, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to Bashar Khafezovich.

                  Yes, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to the working people of the SAR, not because allegedly The UN Security Council resolution is advisory in nature, but because Israel does not care about the UN ...
                  I already wrote once that the myth of "Soviet volunteers" who allegedly took part in the Israeli War of Independence can be found on the net. Facts completely expose this myth.

                  Yes, there are many who have already written something, if everyone was taken seriously, in VO, data mining with a server would have been done for a long time ...
                  So write that you seem to be 100 years old, maybe you took part in the first Arab-Israeli war ...?
                  In Israel, there is a special organization of volunteers - "Mahal". This organization has lists of about 4 volunteers, including men, women, Jews and non-Jews from 400 countries who came to the aid of the Jewish state during the difficult days of the War of Independence. There are no volunteers from the USSR.

                  And in the center of Tbilisi, is there a museum of "Soviet occupation" and what, can the genocide of Georgians be recognized by the Soviet Union?
                  Russia has received enough examples over the centuries of its existence that you will never receive from saved thanks, therefore it will no longer save anyone, developing its territory it will be viewed from the side ....
                  Well, the portraits of Stalin ended after the 20th Congress of the CPSU

                  Did you personally take the last off the wall?

                  In this case, my dear, I do not dare to delay it anymore. hi

                  Well, I thought so .... merged ....
                  Not knowledge of the sources of international law and their legal force, as well as insisting on its alternative version of world history, incl. the states of Israel, only confirm the correctness of my initial comment ...
                  However, all this can be forgiven if Israel returns to the working people of the SAR Gollan .... give someone else’s and it will be calmer and happier to you from the restored justice ...
      2. muham
        muham 17 June 2020 20: 26 New
        -4
        Quote: seregatara1969
        And they said thanks to Stalin for their assistance in creating the state of Israel.
        Did Jews say thanks to the creation of the USSR? right here they say directly: Aviator6768 (Fedor) supposedly Jewish is the handiwork of the USSR, but where is that gratitude?
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 18 June 2020 11: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: muham
          Did Jews say thanks to the creation of the USSR?

          Thanks for that? If they weren’t, our Civil War would not have been so bloody, and the revolution itself would have taken place without their participation. So you should not tidy up the past, otherwise the presented bill will obviously not be in favor of the Jews of the Russian Empire.
          1. muham
            muham 18 June 2020 18: 56 New
            -2
            Quote: ccsr
            Thanks for that?
            If they weren’t, they would still be near the Romanovs. For those praising the USSR - thank Nadot, well, Stalin also thanked. And who is for Nicholas, then yes, there is nothing to thank ...
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 18 June 2020 19: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: muham
              If they weren’t, they would still be near the Romanovs.

              You probably have not heard about the February revolution.
              Quote: muham
              For those praising the USSR - thank Nadot,

              Is this for the Countrywoman, Yagoda or Trotsky?
              I see no reason to thank them at all, if only because their participation in the history of our country did not bring anything good when you sum up the results of the 20th century.
              1. muham
                muham 19 June 2020 10: 24 New
                -1
                Quote: ccsr
                I see no reason to thank them at all, if only because their participation in the history of our country did not bring anything good when you sum up the results of the 20th century.
                But what about? If Jews should be grateful for the pogroms, for their systematic destruction, for the cause of the doctors for the Birobidzhan for the continuous pumping and support of the Arabs against the Jews, then of course, thank. And I did not mention the benefits.
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 19 June 2020 17: 43 New
                  0
                  Quote: muham
                  But what about? If Jews should thank for the pogroms,

                  In fact, Jewish pogroms were more often in other countries than in the Russian Empire - in the Third Reich for example.
                  Quote: muham
                  for their systematic destruction,

                  This is a lie - no one specifically destroyed Jews in Russia, and vice versa allowed them to occupy high posts in the state. But many Jews distinguished themselves during the Civil War precisely in that they committed atrocities in the extermination of people of a different nationality.
                  Quote: muham
                  for the doctors

                  And who organized the purges in 1937 - was it not Henry Yagoda by chance? Did his henchmen take up the doctors later?
                  Quote: muham
                  for birobidzhan

                  Have you dreamed that Crimea will be presented to you to create an autonomous region? It would not be very greasy, especially since no country in the world has a Jewish autonomous region - this is how Comrade Stalin took care of the persecuted people.
                  Quote: muham
                  and the support of the Arabs against the Jews,

                  So Comrade Stalin helped create the state of Israel, and the Israelis threw him. So I had to change the vector of assistance, in the hope that the Arab proletariat would be a more faithful assistant to the USSR than Israeli shopkeepers. The dialectic of Marxism, and your homegrown propaganda does not work against it, put up with it.
                  1. muham
                    muham 20 June 2020 07: 56 New
                    -1
                    Quote: ccsr
                    Actually Jewish pogroms
                    Were in Russia more than anywhere else, but you have nothing to nod at others if the face is crooked.
                    Quote: ccsr
                    no one specifically destroyed Jews in Russia,
                    This is a lie - Closing the population in the Pale of Settlement and preventing equal opportunities is destruction
                    Quote: ccsr
                    And who organized the purges in 1937 - was it not Henry Yagoda by chance?
                    Stalin, Stalin was the main leader - to him with claims and go. Have you chosen? Why are you whining now. Know how to be responsible for your actions.
                    Quote: ccsr
                    Have you dreamed that Crimea will be presented to you to create an autonomous region?
                    To me? Why do I need it? By the way, they would give it to the Jews, they would rebuild it no worse than Israel. And so - according to relics and fir trees.
                    Quote: ccsr
                    So comrade Stalin helped create the state of Israel
                    Well, helped, so what? They previously helped him with money, and introduced him to the world - thanks as well. But he is the other way around.
                    1. ccsr
                      ccsr 20 June 2020 11: 05 New
                      0
                      Quote: muham
                      Were in Russia more than anywhere else, but you have nothing to nod at others if the face is crooked.

                      You’re lying because the Jewish pogroms in Russia were suppressed by the authorities and they were rare, and interestingly, they arose where the Russian minority lived - in Moldova, Odessa province, etc.
                      Quote: muham
                      This is a lie - Closing the population in the Pale of Settlement and preventing equal opportunities is destruction

                      All Jews of Russia had equal opportunities if they adopted Christianity. Within the Pale of Settlement, Orthodox Jews who did not want to pass the laws of the Russian Empire were closed, and ordinary Jews lived in the capital and had their own synagogues.
                      Quote: muham
                      Stalin, Stalin was the main leader - to him with claims and go. Have you chosen?

                      No, the Jews, in particular, who rubbed a lot around him, chose him in particular, so they paid for their choice.
                      Quote: muham
                      By the way, they would give it to the Jews, they would rebuild it no worse than Israel.

                      Finally broke through, and resentment crept out that you were not given the Crimea, which was the main reason for your resentment against Stalin.
                      Quote: muham
                      Well, helped, so what?

                      And the fact that you were ungrateful, however, as always.
                      Quote: muham
                      They previously helped him with money, and presented to the world - thanks, too.

                      I have not heard about this - this is probably another joke from Zhvanetsky.
                      1. muham
                        muham 20 June 2020 16: 09 New
                        -1
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Jewish pogroms in Russia were suppressed by the authorities
                        And here you started to fuck, It is well known that the pogroms were from the blessing of the authorities,
                        Quote: ccsr
                        they arose where a minority of Russians lived
                        They arose under Russian authority, that is, responsibility on the Russian authorities. Do you like drawing to understand, or a bad case?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        All Jews of Russia had equal opportunities if they adopted Christianity. Within the Pale of Settlement, Orthodox Jews who did not want to pass the laws of the Russian Empire were closed, and ordinary Jews lived in the capital and had their own synagogues.
                        There are no Christian Jews in nature, no matter what you or other dreamers think about it. So there is religious discrimination. As I told you before, there is destruction. Do you like drawing to understand, or a bad case?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        No, they chose him in particular
                        What not? what not The Russians did not choose him? Being the absolute majority? What are you talking about? Do you like drawing to understand, or a bad case?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        And the fact that you were ungrateful, however, as always
                        Who are you? Jews? So turn to them. I explain to you that it is primarily ingratitude from the Russians, and therefore there is no reason to nod at others if the face is crooked. Do you like drawing to understand, or a bad case?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        I have not heard about this
                        You should hear that in all animals of anti-Semitic rumors it is so selective. but can you draw to understand, or a bad case?
                      2. ccsr
                        ccsr 20 June 2020 17: 15 New
                        +1
                        Quote: muham
                        And here you started to fuck, It is well known that the pogroms were from the blessing of the authorities,

                        This heinous lie is spread by the citizens of Israel in order to explain their sausage emigration.
                        Quote: muham
                        They arose under Russian authority, that is, responsibility on the Russian authorities.

                        Naturally under power - this happened not only in the Russian Empire, but also in other countries of the world. But why didn’t this happen in the USSR, but the Jews nevertheless faded to Israel - can you explain?
                        Quote: muham
                        There are no Christian Jews in nature,

                        There are - on our television Solovyov and Norkin say that they are Orthodox Christians.
                        Quote: muham
                        So there is religious discrimination.

                        You’re lying as usual, because even in the capital, RI was allowed to build one of the largest synagogues in the world:
                        On December 8, 1893, the solemn consecration of the Great Synagogue was held. The leaders of the community opened the central door with a silver key and brought 7 Torah scrolls into the hall.
                        The first scroll was carried by the chairman of the board of the community, the millionaire baron Gunzburg, followed by the big Jewish aces - M. A. Varshavsky and L. Ya Polyakov. We read a prayer for the repose of Tsar Alexander 2.

                        Quote: muham
                        or bad case?

                        You yourself are rotten, and this is very noticeable in your argument.
                      3. muham
                        muham 22 June 2020 21: 06 New
                        -1
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Israeli citizens spread lies in order to explain their sausage emigration.
                        With this "sausage" emigration, they haaarasho imparted Russian protégés to the Arabs. Despite the tremendous superiority in the "bayonets" as well as in the lacking analogues of technology. And it’s just you, without a doubt, that you are breaching.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Naturally under power - this happened not only in the Russian Empire, but also in other countries of the world. But why didn’t this happen in the USSR, but the Jews nevertheless faded to Israel - can you explain?
                        So it is natural to you that the Russian government sponsored the pogroms (and what others had was not an excuse) - so everything is clear with you, animal anti-Semite. In the USSR there was another kind of anti-Smithism, limits were set on the number of Jews, and there is nothing to say about the case of doctors and Birobidzhan. So it was in the USSR, and therefore there was a reason to flee to Israel, leaving almost everything. And why do not the Jews and strive to equip their country? Not all the virgin lands but BAM. That is equipped. If it weren’t for people like you, you would work in Russia.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        There are - on our television Solovyov and Norkin say that they are Orthodox Christians.
                        Well, the flag in their hands, and the Jews to do with it?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        You’re lying as usual, because even in the capital, RI was allowed to build one of the largest synagogues in the world:
                        Are you telling a lie, you're lying, how are you breathing, and how is the synagogue built to discriminate against Jews in Russia? No way. Was there discrimination? It was!
                        I see you and drawing will not help, a really bad case.
                      4. ccsr
                        ccsr 23 June 2020 12: 52 New
                        +1
                        Quote: muham
                        In the USSR, there was another kind of anti-Smithism,

                        It’s okay to lie - you didn’t live in the USSR, and you don’t know how many Jews were at the top of power then, that’s nonsense.
                        Quote: muham
                        So it was in the USSR, and therefore there was a reason to flee to Israel, leaving almost everything. And why do not the Jews and strive to equip their country?

                        I personally am glad that you have left to equip your country — believe me, no one in the USSR suffered from this. On the contrary, I consider it a big mistake of our rulers that they did not organize free Odessa-Haifa flights for those leaving, but made it difficult for them to leave. As a result, many Soviet Jews simply did not reach Israel, and for some reason settled in Europe and the USA. Apparently not too eager to equip your country ...
                        Quote: muham
                        Well, the flag in their hands, and the Jews to do with it?

                        So you claimed that there are no Jewish Christians - so I showed you that they happen.
                        Quote: muham
                        Was there discrimination? It was!

                        Yes, no, this is how it really was:

                        By the way, precisely because of this scoundrel, Lezhov was not given the second star of the Hero - everything is described in detail in the book.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 17 June 2020 09: 35 New
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    Quote: CAT BAYUN
    Have you ever said thanks?

    Who? they are ? and thanks ?
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    1. Iris
      Iris 17 June 2020 15: 54 New
      -1
      This is, to put it mildly, slander.
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 17 June 2020 14: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: CAT BAYUN
    Well yes. Glad, glad .... Who would doubt it. Have you ever said thanks?

    They didn’t just say, but did it - the IL-20 was put under attack.
  • askort154
    askort154 17 June 2020 09: 24 New
    +6
    And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?
    Facts in the "studio"!
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 17 June 2020 10: 04 New
      +7
      Well, they put military Il under a rocket, 20 of our soldiers died.
    2. Simon schempp
      Simon schempp 17 June 2020 10: 07 New
      -8
      And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?

      At least the fact that this is one of not many countries that are not trying to wipe their feet on Russia.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 18 June 2020 00: 47 New
        -1
        Quote: Simon Schempp
        And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?

        At least the fact that this is one of not many countries that are not trying to wipe their feet on Russia.

        Keyword trying ....
        There are a lot of really trying and dreaming about it, but only after the 45th is the road to everyone's skin ...
        Once every 100 years, Europeans are going to solve the "Russian question", and everything ends with either the Cossacks in Paris or the Red Army in Berlin ...
        .... you need it, try ....?
    3. flicker
      flicker 17 June 2020 10: 31 New
      +1
      And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?
      Clearly, he throws firewood into the bonfire before voting for amendments.
    4. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 17 June 2020 17: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?
      Facts in the "studio"!

      Israel never votes at the UN for resolutions against the Russian Federation. In the General Assembly, all votes are equal and there is no veto. It is better to have a little friend than a big enemy. Does not join any sanctions. Unlike Russia, it constantly supports anti-Israeli resolutions. For the 73 years of Israel’s existence, this is the first time that Russia has responded positively to Israel’s request. But she didn’t even have to veto. Barak was afraid to lose his face and canceled the vote.
      1. Iris
        Iris 17 June 2020 19: 17 New
        +1
        ..this is the first time that Russia has responded positively to Israel’s request.


        Good day!
        "Publication of publications", without a signature, in itself causes reasonable doubts, and the real plot - doubts in the square.
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 17 June 2020 20: 08 New
          0
          Quote: Iris
          ..this is the first time that Russia has responded positively to Israel’s request.


          Good day!
          "Publication of publications", without a signature, in itself causes reasonable doubts, and the real plot - doubts in the square.

          https://inosmi.ru/politic/20200617/247613892.html
          1. Iris
            Iris 17 June 2020 20: 26 New
            0
            You know better to what extent this information can be called reliable. But accepting it as such raises many questions.
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 17 June 2020 21: 23 New
              0
              Quote: Iris
              You know better to what extent this information can be called reliable. But accepting it as such raises many questions.

              An article from a daily respectable newspaper. No complaints. There are always questions. Answers can be more difficult, but here everything is clear. Obama has long been at the junkyard of history, Putin is driving. Netanyahu with their problems, but coping. What?
  • New
    New Year day 17 June 2020 09: 28 New
    14
    Why is Israel so worried? Session of simultaneous play on all boards? One grandmaster also played like that, though later he ticked along the river
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 June 2020 09: 29 New
    +1
    Thanks? And what is gratitude? Israel does not know such words. Should have helped, period ... wassat
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 17 June 2020 10: 00 New
      17
      I remember after the clemency of an Israeli drug addict, she put megatons of a well-known substance about Russia in her leaflets.
      1. forest1
        forest1 17 June 2020 10: 18 New
        +5
        The president himself said that she was arrested essentially illegally. She did not cross the border of the Russian Federation moving in transit from India to Israel. In both of these countries, no punishment is imposed for such volumes of hemp and they are allowed for transportation. Now, if she with this hemp left the international transit zone of the airport - then there would be a legal arrest. And for some reason she was inspected and illegally dragged out by force. For good, there should have been no amnesty, but simply the closure of the case with the removal of the charges. But we have what we have, even so. And considering that she spent a year in prison. No wonder what she thinks of Russia.
        1. Slavs
          Slavs 17 June 2020 12: 21 New
          0
          Quote: forest1
          She did not cross the border of the Russian Federation in transit

          Well, maybe let him look for another transit? )))
          1. forest1
            forest1 17 June 2020 12: 35 New
            +2
            Yes, it was her mistake. She did not know that in Russia international law is so violated. And that in practice Russia does not consider such an international zone of the airport. Although it declares that it seems like it considers it. Even allegedly Snowden did not give out due to the fact that he was in the transit zone. Where Russia should not extend its jurisdiction. Personally, I am inclined to associate what happened, that this is a dirty trick for the incident with the downed IL-20. This happened immediately after the downing and caused a powerful reaction from Israel. However, maybe of course there was no connection
        2. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 17 June 2020 12: 24 New
          +1
          Drug transit is for nothing !? It's five. The conclusions our government will make.
          1. forest1
            forest1 17 June 2020 12: 33 New
            +2
            This is with us this is drugs in India and Israel, these are permitted substances. Alcohol is also a drug, however, it is not punished. Until you drive
        3. Overlock
          Overlock 17 June 2020 18: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: forest1
          The president himself said that she was arrested essentially illegally.

          why did the prosecutor’s office, the FSB and our court violate the LAW? After all, she did not violate anything, but was convicted.
      2. Iris
        Iris 17 June 2020 16: 48 New
        +2
        .. in her bloches imposed megatons of a well-known substance about Russia


        Is it possible to link to the blog?
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 18 June 2020 00: 52 New
          0
          Quote: Iris
          .. in her bloches imposed megatons of a well-known substance about Russia

          Is it possible to link to the blog?

          In google banned? The poor lackeys were taken away ...
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 17 June 2020 09: 33 New
    +4
    Benjamin Netanyahu called Putin and asked to block this decision of the UN Security Council in order to maintain stability in the region.
    Well, "stability“in the region we are all observing, it cannot be more stable. Once again, the GDP has been circled around the finger, although it’s a gbshnik, but it is poorly understood in people.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 17 June 2020 10: 30 New
      -5
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Once again, the GDP was circled around the finger, although it’s gbshnik, but it is poorly understood in people.

      article title Israeli media: Blah, blah, blah ....

      Do you believe Israeli media? Please give a monosyllabic answer - YES or NO.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 June 2020 11: 24 New
        +4
        Quote: Nasr
        Do you believe Israeli media? Please give a monosyllabic answer - YES or NO.

        I do not believe in any media, because all the media are paid and published, for which they were paid, whether it be Russian, whether Israeli, whether Nigerian.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 17 June 2020 11: 56 New
          -5
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Nasr
          Do you believe Israeli media? Please give a monosyllabic answer - YES or NO.

          I do not believe in any media, because all the media are paid and published, for which they were paid, whether it be Russian, whether Israeli, whether Nigerian.

          Do not believe me, but draw conclusions based on these media !!! laughing
          example:
          Quote: tihonmarine
          . Again circled the GDP around the finger,

          laughing
          It’s good that these mass media didn’t inform about your orientation, otherwise many comrades (your comrades), relying on these mass media, could look askance at you ...
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 17 June 2020 12: 04 New
            +3
            Quote: Nasr
            It’s good that these mass media didn’t inform about your orientation, otherwise many comrades, relying on these mass media, could turn their backs on you ...

            Let them turn away, I'm not a girl that everyone would like.
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 17 June 2020 12: 21 New
              -1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              ... I'm not a girl that everyone would like.

              By the way, the Israeli media could report that you are a girl, moreover, a sale ... wassat And what? Many would believe! You believed the stories about Netanyahu, Obama, Putin and their intrigues! good
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 17 June 2020 12: 36 New
                +4
                Quote: Nasr
                And what? Many would believe!

                I had no doubt that they would definitely believe you. Do you believe these three? They say one thing and do another.
  • Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 17 June 2020 09: 36 New
    +7
    This talker is Netanyahu! Why talk about the "backstage". Or wants to quarrel with the Palestinians?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 17 June 2020 09: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Valery Valery
      Why talk about the "backstage". Or wants to quarrel with the Palestinians?

      request

      But a bowl of slop poured a fair amount. It remains to wait for the reaction of the GDP itself and the "Kremlin pool" ...

      “Will the Empire strike back,” or will it dry out silently?
      1. flicker
        flicker 17 June 2020 11: 18 New
        0
        Will the Empire strike back, or will it dry out silently?
        By whom to apply?
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 June 2020 11: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        “Will the Empire strike back,” or will it dry out silently?

        Silently, we will dry ourselves.
    2. g1v2
      g1v2 17 June 2020 12: 31 New
      -2
      Israel is preparing to seize the territory of the Palestinian State. Trump's plan, which was voiced as a "deal of the century." The result should be the elimination of a single territory, taking the border with Jordan under full control and the Palestinian corral on the reservation. This is in fact. A serious step. The war of conquest in our time is not welcome. And Netanyahu is trying to convince his people that this plan is supported not only by the United States, but can also be supported by the Russian Federation. He wants to remain in the history of Israel not as a head, the entire term of government under trial, but as a conqueror and enlarger of the territory of Israel. request
      Well, about the Obama resolution. Whether GDP would support Palestine’s declaration within 48 years or not, it would not affect anything anyway. Israel at the UN spits fifty years. Only the Palestinians themselves can break the "deal of the century" by a new wave of intifada and protecting the remnants of their territory with weapons in their hands. No one will protect them - or they will fight back or go on a reservation. They cannot, it means Israel deserves to annex these territories by right of conquest. We will see. Abbas, of course, is clearly not Arafat, but hezahs and Iran are on his side. request
      1. Iris
        Iris 17 June 2020 16: 59 New
        -3
        The Palestinian "state" exists only at one point on the planet: Moscow, Kropotkinskiy per. 26 tbsp. 2. On the rest of the Earth, the National Palestinian Autonomy of the State of Israel exists. As for border control with Jordan, then, as far as I know, everything is in order since 1967.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 17 June 2020 17: 19 New
          +2
          The independence of the State of Palestine was recognized by 137 of the 193 UN member states. This is quite enough. The Palestinian territories, despite the existence of partial Palestinian governance on them, are still considered by the UN to be occupied by Israel. There are no other international bodies that would have thought otherwise. wink
          1. Iris
            Iris 17 June 2020 17: 55 New
            0
            Indeed, he got excited) And, nevertheless, in this matter - objectively speaking - political dualism should be noted. The "state" of Palestine - recognized by 137 countries - does not have full membership in the UN, does not have its own currency, is 99% dependent on the supply of water and electricity from Israel, and, finally, does not have the authority to protect its own territory. Even leaving behind such a piquant nuance as terrorism as an article of state revenue, all the same - despite all the recognition - we have signs of a quasi-state that is unable (and does not want) to exist independently.
          2. borberd
            borberd 18 June 2020 13: 35 New
            +1
            And what about then this resolution - "Resolution of the UN General Assembly A / RES / 68/262"? A good position - here we see, here - we do not see, here we wrap the fish.
  • doubovitski
    doubovitski 17 June 2020 09: 42 New
    +3
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Thanks? And what is gratitude? Israel does not know such words. Should have helped, period ... wassat

    You don’t see beyond your own nose. Thanks again! By your presence there. Even if you don’t want to do this. Exciting neighbors who are FORCED to be in the wake of the USSR-Russia, and depending on his (her) help. Well, just by virtue of its availability. This is what allows us to be present where Russia considers it important and necessary for itself. .
    1. flicker
      flicker 17 June 2020 11: 20 New
      0
      By your presence there. Even if you don’t want to do this. Exciting neighbors who are FORCED to be in the wake of the USSR-Russia, and depending on his (her) help
      This is yes.
    2. Iris
      Iris 17 June 2020 18: 17 New
      0
      Very true and subtle remark. hi For the sake of justice, however, it’s worth saying that the regiment of countries FORCED to be in the wake of the USSR - Russia, has more likely fallen than arrived. Recently, the Persian Gulf monarchy, which, in view of the Iranian threat, urgently revised the paradigm of Arab-Israeli relations and rivalries, establish "unofficial contacts", widely discussed in the press, has not joined Egypt and Jordan. Assad, if he had been smarter, would have gone the same way long ago, but if the politician from you, like an ophthalmologist from Netanyahu, then your country will have a civil war, and your own throne of dubious comfort will be made of foreign bayonets.

      His example is utterly indicative and will not be taken into account by the countries of the region when their leadership makes foreign policy decisions.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 17 June 2020 09: 45 New
    +5
    Now the forum users will come from the promised land, and they will say in chorus "you can never be" !!! lol
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 17 June 2020 10: 01 New
      -1
      Yeah. And Minus will be a flock. lol
  • Dym71
    Dym71 17 June 2020 09: 53 New
    +2
    Benjamin Netanyahu called Putin and asked to block this decision of the UN Security Council in order to maintain stability in the region. The arguments of the Israeli prime minister convinced the president of the Russian Federation. He told Netanyahu that if the resolution were put to a vote, the Russian Federation would veto it.

    Netanyahu - lived, Netanyahu - alive, Netanyahu - will live! (c) B. Netanyahu wassat
    1. flicker
      flicker 17 June 2020 11: 26 New
      -3
      Netanyahu - lived, Netanyahu - alive, Netanyahu - will live!
      The first two statements are indisputable, at the expense of the third there are great doubts - for "nothing lasts forever under the moon" bully
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 17 June 2020 11: 33 New
        0
        Quote: flicker
        The first two statements are indisputable, at the expense of the third there are great doubts - for "nothing lasts forever under the moon"

        You are not the first with this thought, our colleague with you, Oleg Sokolov ("Professor"), thinks so for several years wassat
  • Aleksandre
    Aleksandre 17 June 2020 09: 55 New
    +3
    The friendly and laid-back setup with the IL-20 was apparently a deep European appreciation for this.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 17 June 2020 10: 06 New
      +9
      I’m not even among the admirers of Israel, but the truth is more expensive. Since they shot down Il, do not substitute. I am sure. It was necessary to carefully monitor the Syrians in the area of ​​our base. And the interception of the target on the flight path, judging by the description of the Two Hundreds, is quite a real phenomenon.
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 17 June 2020 10: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        I’m not even among the admirers of Israel, but the truth is more expensive.

        Quote: Cyril G ...
        And the interception of the target on the flight path, judging by the description of the Two Hundreds, is quite a real phenomenon.

        FOR THE TRUTH +
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 17 June 2020 16: 48 New
          +3
          I’ll also add that the cause of the death of the Tu-154 scheduled route (the one from Tel Aviv) over the Black Sea is generally the same apparently, which was imposed on zero calculation preparation. At the time of the catastrophe, Ukrainians did not shoot for a long time. Well, of course, the ignorance of the organizers who did not want to understand that the danger zone when firing SAMs should be calculated on the basis of the range of missiles SAM max. along the most favorable trajectory X 1.5.
          As a result - the same interception of the target on the trajectory of a semi-active radar seeker missile launcher and catastrophe.
      2. Aleksandre
        Aleksandre 17 June 2020 10: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        I’m not even among the admirers of Israel, but the truth is more expensive. Since they shot down Il, do not substitute. I am sure. It was necessary to carefully monitor the Syrians in the area of ​​our base. And the interception of the target on the flight path, judging by the description of the Two Hundreds, is quite a real phenomenon.

        And I do not condone the Syrians at all. But when planning the action, no one bothers to take into account the features of the skills (gouging) of all the persons participating in them?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 June 2020 11: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Aleksandre
          And I do not condone the Syrians at all.

          You are right, as they didn’t blame the Israelis on the fact that they set up the IL, but the Syrians pulled the trigger.
        2. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 17 June 2020 12: 22 New
          +4
          This is our responsibility to take into account the specifics of the contingent under supervision. Organize interaction, forbidden sectors and more ...

          For understanding, there is a declassified book on a survey of the Syrian Air Force and Air Defense in 1987-89, so that’s what killed me, at that time the Syrians didn’t ask to provide them with an Arabic translation of the Technical Description and operating instructions for the air defense systems and Syrian aircraft.
      3. Slavs
        Slavs 17 June 2020 10: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Since they shot down Il, do not substitute.

        Perhaps in this particular case it was .. But the facts of covering with our sides are enough ...
    2. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 17 June 2020 10: 08 New
      -6
      The friendly and laid-back setup with the IL-20 was apparently a deep Jewish appreciation for this.
      For such at least the full civilian side of the Russian Federation must be substituted.
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  • vavilon
    vavilon 17 June 2020 09: 55 New
    -1
    It would be better if he defended Ukraine, and the Israelis paid us in full in Syria
  • parusnik
    parusnik 17 June 2020 09: 55 New
    +4
    laughing And now what to say to the Arab world with the Palestinians ... After such a statement?
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 17 June 2020 10: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      laughing And now what to say to the Arab world with the Palestinians ... After such a statement?

      Ahlan va-sahlan! bully
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 June 2020 11: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Dym71
        Ahlan va-sahlan!
        "Two hungry will never be satisfied: hungry for knowledge and hungry for the blessings of the earth."
    2. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 17 June 2020 10: 08 New
      +2
      And now what to say to the Arab world with the Palestinians
      So it’s designed!
    3. flicker
      flicker 17 June 2020 11: 35 New
      0
      And now what to say to the Arab world with the Palestinians ... After such a statement?
      And what to say?
      Let them fight! laughing
      But that’s what neither one nor the other wants to fight.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 17 June 2020 10: 11 New
    +8
    When Putin leaves, we will learn many more interesting things.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 17 June 2020 10: 20 New
      +9
      Quote: steel maker
      When Putin leaves, we will learn many more interesting things.

      Yes, whom our Darkest in the world did not save, acre of our own pensioners. crying
      1. flicker
        flicker 17 June 2020 11: 39 New
        -9
        Yes, whom our Darkest in the world did not save
        Saved Russia.
        And thus he gave other countries hope to be saved.
        ---
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 17 June 2020 12: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: flicker
          Saved Russia.
          And thus he gave other countries hope to be saved.

          Are you talking about this? bully
  • Junior Private
    Junior Private 17 June 2020 10: 17 New
    0
    Israel owes a lot to the USSR / Russia. From the creation and the possibility of becoming a state, to the current existence. Jews, admittedly, are smart people. All of them perfectly understand this, only they have not particularly accepted their thoughts to voice out loud. But with the Persians and others. Russia will continue to be friends. You never know what.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 17 June 2020 11: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: Junior Private
      Israel owes a lot to the USSR / Russia.

      Let's split the flies from cutlets
      1. The USSR voted to create the state of Israel.
      2. In the war of independence of 1948 he helped with weapons.
      3. But after Israel did not go along the lines allotted to him by Stalin from 1950 to 1991, Israel did not fit into the line of the CPSU.
      Quote: Junior Private
      and the possibility of becoming a state, to the present existence.

      But please bring this, YOU as the USSR and Russia were engaged in the formation of the state of Israel even to the present existence.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 17 June 2020 11: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        But please bring this, YOU as the USSR and Russia were engaged in the formation of the state of Israel even to the present existence.

        Yes please repeat
      2. Junior Private
        Junior Private 17 June 2020 13: 40 New
        +1
        Vitaly (let me turn to you like that?), You understand the “CPSU line” (now Russia) a little bit wrong, it doesn’t mean that the “ally” obediently wandered in the communist channel, but that it is self-sufficient and has influence in its region , the more polymer. Israel, like no other, is suitable for this role. Especially in BV, where the devil himself will not understand, and the Arabs have seven Fridays a week and all of them are Mondays. Do you not know that the very essence of "friendship" between Christians and Arabs is very different. If you give them money, they profound them on thoroughbred camels with glass and still beg. But Israel is not like that. And playing on the differences in mentality, Russia may well decide its geopolitical affairs.

        Regarding your question about assistance in the establishment of Israel, without even touching on the multitude of economic mutual benefits, I think it’s enough to mention that Israel’s “friendly” regimes are not overwhelmed by no less friendly Russian RKs (this must be appreciated!), You are forgiven a lot, no one pushes speeches to the UN a la Ahmadinejad, but personally I somehow even bought Israeli carrots.
        May there be peace!
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 17 June 2020 15: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Junior Private
          Russia may well decide its geopolitical affairs.

          I agree.
          Quote: Junior Private
          many economic mutual benefits,

          I also agree, mutually beneficial. I suppose there are more serious carrots.
          Quote: Junior Private
          Israel’s “friendly” regimes are not overwhelmed by no less friendly Russian RKs (this must be appreciated!)

          In 2005, "friendly" cornets damaged the IDF. Yes, today Russia does not give weapons, but sells aggressive neighbors too, and they understand that today Israel has gone far ahead in armaments and other technologies to protect its country. And the fact that in the Middle East today there are countries that dream of a revival of past power in the region and even a hidden alliance with Israel suits them.
          And I agree with that
          May there be peace!
          1. Junior Private
            Junior Private 17 June 2020 15: 45 New
            +4
            You see how great it is when there is a common understanding of geopolitical issues.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 17 June 2020 19: 44 New
              +1
              Quote: Junior Private
              You see how great it is when there is a common understanding of geopolitical issues.

              You see how we quickly resolved this issue, and Putin and Netanyahu have much more information. This is called MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL cooperation.
  • Slavs
    Slavs 17 June 2020 10: 29 New
    -3
    The opinion of the Israelis about this? )))
    Pour mud in the comments and cover yourself with "sides"? Everything is as usual ?
    1. Slavs
      Slavs 17 June 2020 11: 46 New
      -2
      Judging by the minuses, the six-pointed ones pulled themselves up ... But they are silent ...
  • geologist
    geologist 17 June 2020 10: 34 New
    -1
    “And there is half our people ...” (Vysotsky V.S.) There are a lot of Caucasians (Russians) who live with the Moscow Art Theater authenticity depicting Jews, but the Palestinians are real indigenous people, probably more related to those archaic God-chosen sons of Moisyuk than the current population, we are not particularly interested. Not a relative.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 17 June 2020 11: 48 New
      +6
      "In 1845, according to the Prussian consul, the population (Jerusalem) was 16 people - 410 Jews, 7120 Muslims, 5000 Christians, 3 Turkish soldiers and 390 Europeans."
    2. borberd
      borberd 18 June 2020 14: 07 New
      -1
      Quote: geologist
      but the Palestinians - the true indigenous people, probably more related to those archaic God-chosen sons of Moisyuk than the current population, are not particularly interesting to us. Not a relative.

      Yeah, indigenous, somewhere in the Arabian sands. According to the papal envoy who visited Palestine in 1760. The only Muslim family in Palestine resided in Gaza. Neither in Jerusalem, nor in other places, Muslims were observed. In Jerusalem, Tiberias, Hebron .. only Jews and Christians lived.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 June 2020 10: 36 New
    +2
    It is clear that international politics is not in a battle with the enemy head to head, but a tricky business, often behind the scenes. But that's why right now Netanyahu decided to openly name the GDP, and not 4 years ago. And it’s not quite proper for the Prime Minister to disclose the agreements that happened face to face. And as often happens in such cases, a confidential conversation that gives publicity does not reveal the whole essence of this conversation, especially the details regarding it personally.
    1. flicker
      flicker 17 June 2020 11: 44 New
      +1
      why right now Netanyahu decided to openly name the GDP, and not 4 years ago
      So I'm interested.
  • ApJlekuHo
    ApJlekuHo 17 June 2020 10: 41 New
    -6
    Quote: Machete
    Do you want to change the name?
    It seems to be one letter, but the meaning is completely changing. Israeli media: Putin saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories

    So how should it be? Like this?
    Israeli media: Putana saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories
  • Operator
    Operator 17 June 2020 10: 43 New
    -9
    Netanyahu is trying to engage in a primitive political divorce - Barack Obama, a protege of the US Jewish diaspora, would never have opposed Israel.

    American Jews who fell under the American Spring rink twitched and began to generate fakes through the mouths of their Middle Eastern mongrel Netanyahu. But nothing will help them anymore, since one of the slogans of the American Spring is "Suitcase, Station, Israel" bully
    1. smart fellow
      smart fellow 17 June 2020 11: 06 New
      -3
      Obama's position means "the beginning of the end of the Jewish state" www.bbc.com/russian/international/2011/05/110520_obama_american_jewish
      1. Operator
        Operator 17 June 2020 12: 04 New
        0
        I recall that the BBC still disseminated a misinformation about Skripal poisoning with paralytic substance, after which the pupils of the eyes widened laughing
        1. Iris
          Iris 17 June 2020 19: 43 New
          -3
          And what do you think they were poisoned with? Burning British vodka?
          1. Operator
            Operator 17 June 2020 20: 33 New
            0
            Psychotropic BOV type BZ - dilated pupils
            https://www.kazedu.kz/referat/33218
            1. Iris
              Iris 17 June 2020 20: 44 New
              0
              Yes, it is possible.
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 17 June 2020 11: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Operator
      Barack Obama, a protege of the Jewish diaspora in the United States, would never have opposed Israel.

      You either do not own the information or just a propagandist
      Former Illinois Republican Republican Party Congressman Radio Joe Walsh Announces Current President Barack Obama is Muslim
      “Last week everyone asked the only question - why does Obama hate Israel? The answer is very simple - I think Obama is a Muslim. I have already talked about this once. And when I call him Muslim, it complicates the life of the Republican Party and my radio stations. I say this because I believe in it. I know many radio presenters and members of Congress, many from Fox News, who privately call Obama a Muslim, but are afraid to make this publicly out of fear of losing ratings. But I'm not afraid to say this publicly - I believe that Obama is a Muslim. And I believe that he has always been such in his head and in his heart. And this, in my opinion, explains Obama’s hatred of Israel and the weakening of America over the past 8 years, ” - wrote John Walsh on his microblog Twitter
      Netanyahu made the harshest criticism of Obama, accusing the president of the United States of conspiracy in which he entered behind Israel and aimed at weakening his position.
      1. Operator
        Operator 17 June 2020 12: 16 New
        -8
        Barack Obama just refused to implement the Israeli plan for the complete elimination of the Arab state of Palestine by transforming it into the Arab autonomy of the state of Israel (which Donald Trump is pushing now).

        The USSR / RF has consistently opposed and is opposing a violation of the decision of the UN General Assembly of 1947 on the creation in Palestine of two sovereign states (Jewish and Arab) and one international zone (the city of Jerusalem) under the leadership of the UN.

        By the way, all subsequent resolutions of the highest organ of the UN - the Security Council confirmed the validity of the decision of the General Assembly of 1947, i.e. The United States in that matter has always been in solidarity with the USSR / RF. And when America tried to evade, the veto of our country came into force.

        In vain, mongrel Netanyahu squeals to Russia - American spring with the massive relocation of American Jews to their "historical homeland" in the face of the collapse of the dollar bully
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 17 June 2020 12: 31 New
          0
          Quote: Operator
          Barack Obama just refused to implement the Israeli plan for the complete elimination of the Arab state of Palestine by transforming it into the Arab autonomy of the state of Israel (which Donald Trump is pushing now).

          1. There is no state of Palestine and there is nothing to liquidate.
          2. There is Palestinian Authority with an administration within the borders of the State of Israel according to an agreement signed by the two parties on September 13, 1993 in Oslo.
          Quote: Operator
          In vain mongrel Netanyahu screeches to Russia - American spring is near

          No comments
      2. ccsr
        ccsr 18 June 2020 11: 53 New
        -2
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        Netanyahu made the most severe criticism of Obama, accusing the US president of conspiracy in which he entered behind Israel and aimed at weakening his position.

        “Do not make a hunchback” they say in this case - if Obama imposed economic sanctions on Israel, as was done by his administration after the annexation of Crimea, then I would have believed that he really fought for the interests of the Palestinians. And so all his "conspiracies" are empty words and profanity, because the Jewish capital of the United States continued to support Israel, and the supply of arms under aid programs did not stop. We all know how to frown, though when dear Leonid Ilyich frowned, Nixon quickly came to see Siberia and sign the Treaty.
        It is a pity that Putin is not that player - he does not have a real war behind him, so he drifts sometimes, and flirts with Israel and our Hasidim, which has never benefited Russia.
        1. borberd
          borberd 18 June 2020 14: 44 New
          0
          You probably think that the American presidents have all the power, like Putin? You are mistaken, there are many checks and balances on the decisions of the president.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 18 June 2020 18: 09 New
            0
            Quote: borberd
            You probably think that the American presidents have all the power, like Putin?

            I know that Trump imposes sanctions on Russia and imposes trade duties on Chinese goods, i.e. in economic terms, it can affect any country in the world except Cuba and North Korea.
            Quote: borberd
            You are mistaken, there are many checks and balances on the decisions of the president.

            If desired, the American president acts as he is currently profitable. And there is no need for checks and balances - they are not used at all in relation to Israel, because whatever the Israelis do, the American authorities always treat them loyally.
            1. borberd
              borberd 18 June 2020 21: 47 New
              0
              Quote: ccsr

              I know that Trump imposes sanctions on Russia and imposes trade duties on Chinese goods, i.e. in economic terms, it can affect any country in the world except Cuba and North Korea.

              This is elemental, Watson! Because Russia ... let's just say, it is not popular with either the democrats or the reps. Russia does not have an influential community in the United States. The evangelists did not find a single mention of Russia in their religious books. There are several more reasons to cite, but I’m the duam you understand what I mean.
              Quote: ccsr
              If desired, the American president acts as he is currently profitable. And there is no need for checks and balances - they are not used at all in relation to Israel, because whatever the Israelis do, the American authorities always treat them loyally.

              But this is already completely untrue. There are plenty of examples of double play by the Americans. This is the refusal to create an air bridge in 1973, and the nurturing of the terrorist Arafat and the bringing of the entire PLO terrorist gang to Israel and negotiations with them under pressure from the Israelis. And much, much, much more. You should read about the topic before making such high-profile statements
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 19 June 2020 12: 07 New
                -1
                Quote: borberd
                .And many many others . You should read about the topic before making such high-profile statements

                Leave your morals for the Israeli community of the forum - in Russia we have long known how the United States really relates to Israel, and if they really wanted to squeeze you, you would not have been enough for a couple of years, and many would have fled from the promised land including to Russia.
                Quote: borberd
                This is the refusal to create an air bridge in 1973, and the nurturing of the terrorist Arafat and the bringing of the entire PLO terrorist gang to Israel and negotiations with them under pressure on the Israelis

                The Israelis simply behave arrogantly, here they are periodically shown to them who is the boss in the house. So leave these examples to the inexperienced - Pollard’s business is for you to refresh your memory.
    3. flicker
      flicker 17 June 2020 12: 30 New
      -4
      Barack Obama, a protege of the Jewish diaspora in the United States, would never have opposed Israel.
      There are no doubts in the first part, but in the second there are doubts.
      ----
      American Jewry does not really favor Israel, especially since recently the maintenance of Israel for the USA has become burdensome.

      Earlier (before the advent of Israel), Jewry significantly helped the United States embody its (USA) interests in other countries, but with the advent of Israel (especially after the resettlement of Jews from the USSR to Israel), these opportunities weakened sharply (except in social networks).
      Keeping parasites in the midst of an economic crisis has become too burdensome. It seems that at this moment the hegemon decided to close the Israel project. (Kissenger)
      At this point, a crack appeared in the relationship between American Jews and Israeli Jews.
      And after the hegemonic positions in the BV were staggered (especially after the appearance of Russia there), interest in Israel from the part of the states completely disappeared.

      The geldings needed a war on BV and Israel was supposed to start it, though a bit later another project appeared - ISIS, which temporarily delayed the closure of the Israel project.
      After that, the igil ordered to live a long time, Israel was to become the arsonist of the BV again (this story is likely to have been reported by Israeli media - Obama’s idea and Netanyu’s call).
      Israeli Jews (represented by Netanyahu) are trying in every possible way to divert Israel from the role of the arsonist of BV.
      But the geldings are required, Netanyahu gets out, another corruption case is launched against him, after Israel bombed something in Syria, passions fade slightly, then again everything repeats.
      ---
      There is a version that Trump was helped by pro-Israeli Jews in order to ward off the threat from the disappearance of the Israel project, Trump's figure infuriated American Jewry, which is very likely to avenge Israel.
      Trump seems to lose the election and then Israel ends.
      In order to save Trump, Israel will make an ear stand.
      ---
      So the relationship between Israel and the United States is not as cloudless as it seems.
      1. Operator
        Operator 17 June 2020 13: 21 New
        0
        The background of the issue is no longer relevant - the mass exodus to Israel of the American, West European, Ukrainian and other Jewish diasporas (in the face of the collapse of the international financial system) is on the agenda.

        Finally, the centuries-old dream of the Zionists will come true - the concentration of all their relatives in one place laughing

        But at the turn of the 19-20 centuries, 50% of Jews were categorically against the Zionist idea of ​​restoring the state of Israel and moving to it from places of permanent residence. But bank loot drowned out the voice of reason.
        1. flicker
          flicker 17 June 2020 15: 10 New
          -2
          Finally, the centuries-old dream of the Zionists will come true - the concentration of all their relatives in one place
          Yes, there was a dream, but when it came true, it became fear.
          Fear, because if someone wants to solve the Jewish question, then Israel will turn from a dream into a trap.
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 17 June 2020 15: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: flicker
        especially since recently the maintenance of Israel for the United States has become burdensome.

        Quote: flicker
        Containing parasites during the economic crisis has become too

        Please provide the numbers that were before and what is now.
        Quote: flicker
        After that, the igil ordered to live long,

        Oh! Why are you still there?
        Quote: flicker
        Israel bombed something in Syria, passions fade slightly, then again everything repeats.

        And you turn to your government and ask: "Why and what is Israel bombing?"
        Quote: flicker
        Trump seems to lose the election and then Israel ends.

        Read how many governments in the United States and the USSR (and this country) survived Israel.
        Conclusion
        TO START, YOU SHOULD GET, ALSO WANT A SECONDARY EDUCATION.
        1. flicker
          flicker 17 June 2020 16: 54 New
          -1
          Well, first of all, thanks. I am satisfied with your reaction good
          TO START, YOU SHOULD GET, ALSO WANT A SECONDARY EDUCATION.

          Are two classes of a parish school not enough for you? request
          ---
          It was about quite obvious things, but for some reason they surprised you.
          ---
          A little about something else, but it will be informative for you.
          Recently I read how a secular Jew complained about Orthodox Jews (Hasidim). Like, he (a secular Jew) does not condemn their Hasidic way of life, but also does not welcome (treats them calmly), and they (Hasidim)
          extremely intolerant and pounced on him with or without reason.
          Further, in the comments, someone writes that if it weren’t for secular Jews (they serve in the army, but there are no Hasidim), then the Hasidim would have no Israel. Like, Hasidim are not needed.
          The number of Hasidim in Israel is growing, their lifestyle is becoming dominant.
          ---
          Now, please answer:
          * What is the use of Israel, and more specifically the Jewishness of the Hasidim?
          * And why is the influence of Hasidim growing?
          Well, the last question: does this (increased influence of the Hasidim) speak of the approaching end of Israel?

          I hope you have a higher education and it will help you find the answers. bully
          -----
          1. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 17 June 2020 17: 20 New
            -3
            Quote: flicker
            I hope you have a higher education and it will help you find the answers.

            especially since recently the maintenance of Israel for the United States has become burdensome.

            Quote: flicker
            Containing parasites during the economic crisis has become too

            Please provide the numbers that were before and what is now.
            Slipped?
            All your questions will be answered, only after I get the answer
            1. flicker
              flicker 17 June 2020 17: 47 New
              0
              Slipped
              All your questions will be answered, only after I get the answer
              Okay, then I will answer myself bully
              Today, the existence of the state of Israel lies on the shoulders of the army, i.e. secular Jews.

              In present-day Israel, there is no help from the Hasidim for Jewry.

              But this is in existing Israel. But in the period before Israel - Jewry as an ethnos was preserved precisely thanks to the Hasidim.
              For secular Jews would quickly assimilate and lose their ethnic identity. But thanks to the Hasidim, this did not happen.
              Those. Hasidic value exists in the absence of a Jewish state.

              Question: Why is the influence of Hasidim increasing in Israel?
              If the stars are lit, then someone needs it.

              If the Hasidim strengthen the influence, then this is for something and someone needs it.
              And as noted above, Hasidim are needed in the absence of a Jewish state.
              So Jewry is preparing for the loss of Israel.
              ---
              The greater the influence of the Hasidim, the closer the end of Israel.
              ---
              Now is the time to recall Kissanger’s statement about the end of Israel.
              Conclusion: belay
              1. flicker
                flicker 18 June 2020 10: 47 New
                +1
                Henry Kissinger: In 10 years, Israel will cease to exist as a state
                It was said in 2012.
                And Henry Kissinger is an influential Jew and one cannot suspect him of anti-Semitism.
                Plus, the growing influence of Hasidim in Israel. What is also a fact, secular Jews complain that these parasites are too much allowed.
                So the Hasidim is needed for something. For what? Read above.
                By the way, Birobidzhan is not a bad city. bully
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 17 June 2020 11: 02 New
    -1
    But they thanked us severely, set up our plane, our military perished. The question is, is it worth doing business with such political simplicity .... Unless of course it is true that the Israeli prime minister called and asked.
  • Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 17 June 2020 11: 48 New
    +5
    Who would save Russia ...
  • aviator6768
    aviator6768 17 June 2020 12: 01 New
    +3
    Well, which one is permanent? They didn’t notice, as soon as the “Jewish” topic is a word against them, they will spit it right away ...? Dear guys, I learned a lot from your “brother” in business (the Smolensk diaspora is one of the most powerful, some kind of Talmud they gave it away, CAM even intervened ...) My dear Ashkenazi Sephardic ... do not touch the Russians, please .... I love you, but ... I- RUSSIAN !!
    1. aviator6768
      aviator6768 17 June 2020 12: 03 New
      -2
      Anyone - just finish ... training and practice are present (send a picture of a tunic?)
      1. aviator6768
        aviator6768 17 June 2020 12: 12 New
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        You won’t take this brother in a different way - only - into a tambourine ... Kicks ... Practice is ... Only force, rude, merciless ... Did you kill Christ? There is no excuse ... But they consider us goyim ... In business - “well.” We touch our brains ,,,,, You are strong in this, Even the Great Ralph Elliott admitted, but in my life I dunk ..., I'm sorry. ..
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 17 June 2020 13: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: aviator6768
          Well, which one is permanent? They didn’t notice, as soon as the “Jewish” topic is a word against them, they will spit it right away ...? Dear guys, I learned a lot from your “brother” in business (the Smolensk diaspora is one of the most powerful, some kind of Talmud they gave it away, CAM even intervened ...) My dear Ashkenazi Sephardic ... do not touch the Russians, please .... I love you, but ... I- RUSSIAN !!

          Quote: aviator6768
          Anyone - just finish ... training and practice are present (send a picture of a tunic?)

          Quote: aviator6768
          You won’t take this brother in a different way - only - into a tambourine ... Kicks ... Practice is ... Only force, rude, merciless ... Did you kill Christ? There is no excuse ... But they consider us goyim ... In business - “well.” We touch our brains ,,,,, You are strong in this, Even the Great Ralph Elliott admitted, but in my life I dunk ..., I'm sorry. ..

          - Sima Moiseevna, you know, your spouse always shows off his love victories.
          “Oh, I beg you, let the disabled person speak for the war.”
          hi
          1. aviator6768
            aviator6768 17 June 2020 14: 27 New
            +2
            Right! Not “for”, not “against”, just like that, I recognize the handwriting ... The great Catherine drew the Pale of Settlement ... of your border ... All the way sticks to wheels - out of 22 members of the Central Committee - 18 of yours ... Trotsky (Bronstein Leiba Davidovich)
            3. Sverdlov Yankel Movshovich
            4. Zinoviev (Radomyshelsky Ovsey Gersh Aronovich)
            5. Kamenev (Rosenfeld Leiba Baruchovich) ...
            Sorry for the rudeness and harshness ... Here they got it with the coronavirus ... They have a panic and helpless people right there, but masters ...
            1. aviator6768
              aviator6768 17 June 2020 14: 30 New
              +3
              And here’s another joke - "Semyon Markovich, they say athletes earn a lot of money ?, -Oh, Moysha, I beg you, if it were like this, two Jews would spin on each horizontal bar."
            2. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 17 June 2020 15: 27 New
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              Quote: aviator6768
              Right! Not “for”, not “against”, just like that, I recognize the handwriting ... The great Catherine drew the Pale of Settlement ... of your border ... All the way sticks to wheels - out of 22 members of the Central Committee - 18 of yours ... Trotsky (Bronstein Leiba Davidovich)
              3. Sverdlov Yankel Movshovich
              4. Zinoviev (Radomyshelsky Ovsey Gersh Aronovich)
              5. Kamenev (Rosenfeld Leiba Baruchovich) ...
              Sorry for the rudeness and harshness ... Here they got it with the coronavirus ... They have a panic and helpless people right there, but masters ...


              Such a fake runs around the network:

              "Council of People's Commissars (Council of People's Commissars, SNK) 1918:

              Lenin - chairman, Chicherin - foreign affairs, Russian; Lunacharsky - enlightenment, Jew; Dzhugashvili (Stalin) - nationalities, Georgians; Protian - agriculture, Armenian; Larin (Lurie) - Economic Council, Jew; Schlichter - supply, Jew; Trotsky (Bronstein) - army and navy, Jew; Lander - state control, Jew; Kaufman - state property, Jew; V. Schmidt - work, Jew; Lilina (Knigissen) - public health, Jewish woman; Svalbard - cults, Jew; Zinoviev (Apfelbaum) - internal affairs, Jew; Anvelt - hygiene, Jew; Isidor Gukovsky - finance, Jew; Volodarsky - seal, Jew; Uritsky — elections, Jew; I. Steinberg - justice, Jew;
              Fengstein - refugees, Jew.
              In total, out of 20 people's commissars - one Russian, one Georgian, one Armenian and 17 Jews. "

              Would you like to share on "Ours" and "yours"? Talk objectively, or so, went out to prank, but troll?

              Here it is, THE REAL COMPOSITION OF THE FIRST SOVNARKOM (18 people):

              1. Chairman - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) (26.10.1917 - 21.01.1924) - Great Russian

              2. People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs:
              Alexey Ivanovich Rykov (26.10. - 4.11.1917) - Great Russian

              3. People's Commissariat of Agriculture
              Vladimir Pavlovich Milyutin (October 26.10 - November 4.11.1917, XNUMX) - Great Russian

              4. The People's Commissariat of Labor
              Alexander Gavrilovich Shlyapnikov (26.10.1917 - 8.10.1918) - Great Russian

              5. Committee on Naval Affairs (26.10. - 8.11.1917)
              Vladimir Alexandrovich Antonov-Ovseenko - maloros
              Pavel Efimovich Dybenko - Little Russian
              Nikolay Vasilievich Krylenko - Great Russian

              6. People's Commissariat of Trade and Industry
              Victor Pavlovich Nogin (26.10. - 4.11.1917) - Great Russian

              7. People's Commissar of Education
              Anatoly Vasilievich Lunacharsky (family member for the present father - Antonov) (26.10.1917/12.09.1929/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX) - Great Russian

              8. People's Commissariat of Finance
              Ivan Ivanovich Skvortsov-Stepanov (26.10.1917 - 20.01.1918) - Great Russian

              9. People's Commissariat of Foreign Affairs:
              Lev Davidovich Trotsky (Bronstein) (26.10.1917 - 8.04.1918) - Jew

              10. People's Commissariat of Justice
              Georgy Ippolitovich Lomov-Oppokov (26.10 - 9.12.1917) - Great Russian

              11. People's Commissariat of Food
              Ivan Adolfovich Teodorovich (26.10 - 4.11.1917) - Pole

              12. The People's Commissar of Posts and Telegraphs
              Nikolai Pavlovich Glebov (Avilov) (26.10 - 9.12.1917) - Great Russian

              13. People’s Commissariat for Nationalities (People’s Commissariat) of the RSFSR (1917-1923)
              Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili (Stalin) - Ossetian

              14. The People’s Commissariat for Railway Affairs (26.10.1917 - 24.02.1918)
              Mark Timofeevich Elizarov (8.11.1917/7.01.1918/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX) - Russian

              15. The People’s Commissariat of State Charity (8.11.1917/20.03.1918/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX)
              Alexandra Mikhailovna Kollontai (30.10.1917 - 17.03.1918) - Malorosska

              16. The Supreme Council of the National Economy (VSNH)
              Valerian Valerianovich Osinsky (Obolensky) (December 1.12.1917, 22.03.1918 - March XNUMX, XNUMX) - Great Russian

              Result: Russians - 15 (83%), 1 Jew, 1 Pole, 1 Ossetian.
              hi
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 19 June 2020 12: 23 New
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                Quote: A. Privalov
                Result: Russians - 15 (83%), 1 Jew, 1 Pole, 1 Ossetian.

                This line-up was only a few days-weeks, so do not try to speculate at least on this, but rather take an interest in those who led the country later, at least in Civil, to understand who and what was going on. And with Kollontai, not everything is so simple:
                mother, Alexandra Massalin-Mravinskaya, was the daughter of a Finnish manufacturer who sold timber.
          2. Dym71
            Dym71 17 June 2020 14: 49 New
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            Quote: A. Privalov
            - Sima Moiseevna, you know, your spouse always shows off his love victories.

            Mar Privalov, my respect! hi
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                      2. Duxan
                        Duxan 17 June 2020 17: 26 New
                        +1
                        This article is better not to argue .. wink
  • Lexus
    Lexus 17 June 2020 13: 59 New
    +4
    Israeli media: Putin saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories

    Let them take it before it’s too late.
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 17 June 2020 16: 08 New
    +2
    Provocative article without author and source. One grandmother in the market seemed ...
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 17 June 2020 17: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: Whirlwind
      Provocative article without author and source.

      Posted by Ariel Kahana, source - "Israel Hayom":
      https://www.israelhayom.com/2020/06/15/how-russia-saved-israel-from-a-palestinian-state-based-on-the-48-borders/
      Translation:
      https://inosmi.ru/politic/20200617/247613892.html
      Ask, and it shall be given you; seek and find; knock, and they will open it to you; for everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
      Gospel of Matthew (chap. 7, vv. 7-8)

      yes
  • Duxan
    Duxan 17 June 2020 16: 40 New
    0
    And in gratitude for this, Israel is constantly bombing Damascus and mocking the inaction of our air defense in Syria .. interesting events or, most likely, Putin’s setup ..
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 17 June 2020 16: 55 New
      -1
      Quote: Duxan
      And in gratitude for this, Israel is constantly bombing Damascus and mocking the inaction of our air defense in Syria .. interesting events or, most likely, Putin’s setup ..

      Come on, no one bombarded Damascus. Near the airport, a dozen warehouses of Hezbollah and Iranian guards were blown upwind. Israel has directly told them more than once that it will not allow them to settle there and build their intrigues against it. They did not take good advice, so they themselves are evil Pinocchio.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 17 June 2020 17: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Quote: askort154
    And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?
    Facts in the "studio"!

    Israel never votes at the UN for resolutions against the Russian Federation. In the General Assembly, all votes are equal and there is no veto. It is better to have a little friend than a big enemy. Does not join any sanctions. Unlike Russia, it constantly supports anti-Israeli resolutions. For the 73 years of Israel’s existence, this is the first time that Russia has responded positively to Israel’s request. But she didn’t even have to veto. Barak was afraid to lose his face and canceled the vote.

    Here both strategists clearly understand each other ... laughing Without diplomatic preambles. I think this is not very bad for the whole BV. It doesn’t matter what the cause is.
    1. aviator6768
      aviator6768 18 June 2020 00: 45 New
      +2
      Well, they got it ... Simpler - no way?
  • yfast
    yfast 17 June 2020 17: 53 New
    -2
    "" Regulatory intervention once again leads to a fantastic situation: a drop in oil prices leads to higher gas prices, "Bazhenov said."
    This is what it is advisable to discuss, and the last donkey will understand what the restriction of fuel imports will lead to.
    And right before the amendments.
    1. Alexey from Perm
      Alexey from Perm 17 June 2020 20: 13 New
      -1
      to import gasoline, a country selling oil is real madness
  • vavilon
    vavilon 17 June 2020 18: 27 New
    0
    Is there any official confirmation of this or not? or maybe it's an Israeli informational provocation to sow enmity in the Syrian coalition between Russia and Iran
    1. Duxan
      Duxan 17 June 2020 18: 58 New
      0
      Quote: vavilon
      Is there any official confirmation of this or not? or maybe it's an Israeli informational provocation to sow enmity in the Syrian coalition between Russia and Iran

      You are quite insightful .. Now, oh wei, they’ll make you here .. Regards! hi
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 17 June 2020 20: 12 New
    -1
    Is that Putin + or something?
  • yfast
    yfast 17 June 2020 23: 24 New
    0
    Quote: Alexey from Perm
    to import gasoline, a country selling oil is real madness

    If it costs less abroad when the price of oil is low, why should it be banned from importing? The market itself can regulate imports. Ah, we have no market. If the cost of gasoline in a country that sells oil abroad in millions of tons is higher than there, then something is wrong with this country.
  • aviator6768
    aviator6768 18 June 2020 00: 28 New
    0
    Well, it’s necessary for the master to get better before “zeroing” ... Everything is bad - gas in the priest, barely a sechin ... By the way, Sechin is one of the few, we must give him his due, competently hold on ... Even surprised ... KGB man and so governs ... Sss .. who econom. I taught him to read and write ?? Or is it just sensible people? There are numbers - Bloomberg is delighted ... I will not give ...
  • Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 18 June 2020 06: 31 New
    -1
    Russian Foreign Ministry denied publication of Israel Ha-Yom that Putin did not allow Obama to create a Palestinian state
    Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has denied a publication in the Israeli newspaper Israel-a-Yom that Vladimir Putin promised Netanyahu to block a resolution recognizing the State of Palestine within the 1948 borders.
    Zakharova called the statement of Israeli journalists "absolutely absurd."
    "Unfortunately, the practice of false informational stuffing has long been a characteristic feature of our time. It is especially frustrating when officials become the object of this kind of misinformation, since they are guided by their statements, they determine foreign and domestic policy," the representative of the TASS Foreign Ministry quotes.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 18 June 2020 11: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      Maria Zakharova has denied a publication in the Israeli newspaper "Israel a-Yom"

      Excuse me, what did you expect?
      What will she say:
      "The USSR, and now the Russian Federation, has been cheating Israel for 70 years, sending billions and billions of dollars that are so expensive and necessary to themselves to the Arabs, equipment, specialists, and that’s only had shame, losses and hemorrhoids, but now, for the sake of justice, we decided to fit in "for our little Middle Eastern friends who never vote against us at the UN, who do not join any sanctions against the Russian Federation, celebrating, like us, Victory Day on May 9, with which we have long had a decent and mutually beneficial trade."
      ?
      Do not be naive. Moreover, the Russian Federation did not have to do anything. He promised, he did not promise, who knows? Obama himself refused to submit a resolution for discussion.
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 18 June 2020 12: 25 New
        -1
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Excuse me, what did you expect?

        Quote: A. Privalov
        Do not be naive.

        If you noticed, I just gave an excerpt from the article and did not express my opinion, you did it instead of me.
        Thank you.
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 18 June 2020 12: 27 New
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          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          you did it instead of me.
          Thank you.

          You're welcome! Not worth the thanks. hi
  • borberd
    borberd 18 June 2020 13: 00 New
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    Not Tel Aviv, but Jerusalem, it is time to already know this. And there is no such concept - occupied territories, there is a concept - disputed territories.