Israeli media: Putin saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu revealed details of behind-the-scenes events regarding the Palestinian issue. He claims that Russian President Vladimir Putin supported Israel’s position by stopping Barack Obama from realizing his plans.

About this writes the Israeli edition of Israel Hayom.



All the events described took place on the sidelines of the UN Security Council about four years ago. Then, Russia used the veto to block the UN Security Council resolution promoted by Barack Obama and contrary to Israeli interests.

About six months ago, Benjamin Netanyahu revealed some details of this case. He mentioned a certain leader of one of the superpowers with the right of veto to vote against the resolution in order to maintain relative stability in this part of the Middle East. Later, the Israeli prime minister spoke more specifically and added details to this stories.

Shortly before the events described, in December 2016, the UN adopted a resolution condemning Israel for the occupation of Arab territories captured during the Six Day War. These actions of Tel Aviv were recognized as a violation of international law.

Further, Barack Obama, whose presidential term was ending, proposed to adopt another resolution. It envisioned the creation of an independent Palestinian state within the borders of 1948.

Benjamin Netanyahu called Putin and asked to block this decision of the UN Security Council in order to maintain stability in the region. The arguments of the Israeli prime minister convinced the president of the Russian Federation. He told Netanyahu that if the resolution were put to a vote, the Russian Federation would veto it. He also informed Barack Obama about this. The American leader, in order not to harm the country's image, decided to abandon his idea and not bring it to the UN for discussion.

Thus, because of Vladimir Putin, the creation of a Palestinian state within the borders of 1948 had to be postponed, which Israel was extremely happy about.
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  1. +8
    17 June 2020 09: 22
    Do you want to change the name?
    It seems to be one letter, but the meaning is completely changing.
    1. +5
      17 June 2020 09: 29
      Quote: Machete
      Do you want to change the name?
      It seems to be one letter, but the meaning is completely changing.


      Israeli Media: Putinа saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories

      Benjamin Netanyahu called Putin and asked to block this decision of the UN Security Council in order to maintain stability in the region. The arguments of the Israeli prime minister convinced the president of the Russian Federation. He told Netanyahu that if the resolution were put to a vote, the Russian Federation would veto it. He also informed Barack Obama about this. The American leader, in order not to harm the country's image, decided to abandon his idea and not bring it to the UN for discussion.

      Thus, because of Vladimir Putin, the creation of a Palestinian state within the borders of 1948 had to be postponed, which Israel was extremely happy about.

      Here it is,political backstage...
      1. +19
        17 June 2020 10: 49
        It is a pity there is no one to intercede for Russia and the Russians.
        1. -12
          17 June 2020 12: 29
          It is a pity there is no one to intercede for Russia and the Russians.

          Do you live badly? Are you suffering The master whip whips on the back? Are the robbers torn at night in the hut? Al want to do nothing and have everything? But it doesn’t work out? What for you to intercede then? Do you want communism? Maybe you can’t see it in the mirror?
          1. +3
            17 June 2020 12: 49
            Quote: Interlocutor
            It is a pity there is no one to intercede for Russia and the Russians.

            Do you live badly? Are you suffering The master whip whips on the back? Are the robbers torn at night in the hut? Al want to do nothing and have everything? But it doesn’t work out? What for you to intercede then? Do you want communism? Maybe you can’t see it in the mirror?

            Don’t you please, BARIN is worried, he will endure the Russian man, sometimes he’s a little shocked by fines and taxes ... well, it’s nothing, he will growl and go back to the booth.
            1. -15
              17 June 2020 12: 50
              sometimes fines and taxes go a little shocked

              You have been tortured by fines and taxes. Do you need to be protected from them?
              1. 0
                17 June 2020 13: 37
                Quote: Interlocutor
                sometimes fines and taxes go a little shocked

                You have been tortured by fines and taxes. Do you need to be protected from them?

                What are you, what are you ... we ourselves will be at the Stables, because on the contrary we wish the LORD to give everything, raise still tax rates, add to the beard, to a new yacht, fines for rare fines, gasoline, utilities, ... everything is not for you kindly worried.
                1. 0
                  17 June 2020 21: 33
                  Yes, do not care about the Palestinian question.
                  Russia did not vote for Israel.
                  Russia voted AGAINST USA
                  1. -4
                    18 June 2020 13: 03
                    And certainly not for free. But what they paid for is another question.
                    1. -2
                      21 June 2020 17: 06
                      Quote: borberd
                      But what they paid for is another question.

                      But what the Israelis pay us for the fact that our ancestors saved them from destruction by the Nazis:
                      Israeli parachutists took part in NATO maneuvers in Germany. According to the script, they captured a Russian village .., the Germans were ashamed to post a video, and the Jews: "Our enemies are Russians, and our goal is to capture Russian villages. Our friends and comrades in arms are the Bundeswehr." #sberbank

                      1. +1
                        21 June 2020 18: 40
                        No need to adhere. My ancestors also fought. And they fought well, 3-5th place in the Heroes of the Soviet Union. And the entire Soviet people fought, and not only "your" ancestors, especially since yours - could well have been on the other side among the Vlasovites, which mine could not do. And yet, when many were in concentration camps, your ancestors with the Germans arranged maneuvers in the 39th. But when the Nazis attacked you, then - yes, they saved you ... in passing. In any case, unlike you, we have never trained terrorists who fought against your civilians. But you, not only supplied the Arabs with weapons, but also fought against us for 40 years. I'm not even talking about the fact that the special services controlled and directed all the terrorist acts of the PLO against us. There is a lot to tell, but this is enough for the eyes.
                      2. -1
                        22 June 2020 12: 31
                        Quote: borberd
                        No need to stick on.

                        Why should I cling to if my grandfather and uncle died at the front, and my father is a participant in the war? You in Israel have apparently forgotten about the "Tashkent Front", but it was and there were many of yours.
                        Quote: borberd
                        And yet, when many were in concentration camps, your ancestors with the Germans arranged maneuvers in the 39th.

                        Lies - it wasn’t like that.
                        Quote: borberd
                        But you, not only supplied the Arabs with weapons, but you yourself have fought against us for 40 years.

                        So Stalin first supplied the Israelites with arms and created the state of Israel, but his citizens were ungrateful to the leader, and so the vector of help had to be changed. If not for your cunning, maybe this would not have happened at all.
                        Quote: borberd
                        You can tell a lot, but this is enough for the eyes.

                        You don’t tell a nifiga, because no one believes in your version, which justifies the seizure of Palestinian lands. But you continue to mutter how everyone is oppressing and oppressing you, but we all know that all your lies are designed to receive dividends from the tragedies of the Second World War.
                      3. 0
                        22 June 2020 16: 05
                        Quote: ccsr

                        Why should I cling to if my grandfather and uncle died at the front, and my father is a participant in the war? You in Israel have apparently forgotten about the "Tashkent Front", but it was and there were many of yours.

                        You are dear, you live in some invented world like you. And everything that you see or hear, you pass through the prism of this little world of yours. In it, the Jews are weak, did not fight, and if they were anywhere, it was only on the "Tashkent front". The facts are weakly correlated with your attitude to this world. And the facts are as follows - Jews fought at the front much better and in greater quantity than many and many other nationalities of the USSR. This can be seen in the number of feats and awards received by the Jews of the USSR.

                        Quote: ccsr
                        Quote: borberd
                        And yet, when many were in concentration camps, your ancestors with the Germans arranged maneuvers in the 39th.

                        Lies - it wasn’t like that.

                        The fact that you don’t know your story is bad. But the fact that with aplomb is broadcasting that this is a lie is even worse. Guderian came to Kazan on maneuvers in the 39th. Colonels Keitel and Brauhich attended the maneuvers of the Belarusian Military District .SSSR helped train pilots and tankers of the Wehrmacht. And these are historically proven facts that no one refutes ... except of course you

                        Quote: ccsr
                        Quote: borberd
                        But you, not only supplied the Arabs with weapons, but you yourself have fought against us for 40 years.

                        So Stalin first supplied the Israelites with arms and created the state of Israel, but his citizens were ungrateful to the leader, and so the vector of help had to be changed. If not for your cunning, maybe this would not have happened at all.

                        It's funny to watch you get out lol ... Stalin did not create the state of Israel. The supply of weapons at speculative prices - 12-14 times more expensive - is not help at all. Stalin acted against Britain, not for Israel. The Israelis turned their backs when Stalin began killing the Jewish creative intelligentsia and inspired the Doctors' Case.

                        Quote: ccsr
                        Quote: borberd
                        You can tell a lot, but this is enough for the eyes.

                        You don’t tell a nifiga, because no one believes in your version, which justifies the seizure of Palestinian lands. But you continue to mutter how everyone is oppressing and oppressing you, but we all know that all your lies are designed to receive dividends from the tragedies of the Second World War.

                        Before you look at the speck in someone else's eye, pull the log out of your own to begin with. You have enough such "Palestinians" for a hundred Israelis. If memory is tight, I can remind laughing
                      4. -3
                        22 June 2020 18: 04
                        Quote: borberd
                        You dear, live in some kind of fictional world like you.

                        No, I live in Russia and we have a different view of your state and its citizens.
                        Quote: borberd
                        And the facts are that - Jews fought at the front much better and in greater numbers than many, many other nationalities of the USSR.

                        This is all Israeli propaganda, and Soviet citizens fought, not Israeli citizens, so do not stick to the Soviet citizens.
                        Quote: borberd
                        But the fact that with aplomb is broadcasting that this is a lie is even worse. Guderian came to Kazan on maneuvers in the 39th. Colonels Keitel and Braukhich attended the maneuvers of the Belarusian Military District.

                        Take it easy, amateur - the presence of observers in maneuvers is not the same as the participation of armies of different countries in them. And Guderian came to the USSR with an inspection in 1932, and all cooperation was terminated after Hitler came to power. Enlighten, verbiage:
                        Thus, it was not the “German sword” that was forged in the Union, but rather, on the contrary, the Germans helped us in the 1920s – early 1930s to create the foundations of modern tank, air force, chemical forces and defense industries.
                        It turns out that Moscow was not distinguished by stupidity in those years, but by a high state mind, using the maximum benefits of cooperation with Germany.

                        https://topwar.ru/4015-mif-o-tom-chto-v-sssr-kovalsya-fashistskij-mech.html
                        Quote: borberd
                        when Stalin began to kill the Jewish creative intelligentsia and inspired the Doctors' Case.

                        Like all liars, you "forgot" that several dozen doctors were involved in the doctors 'case, who were accused of collaborating with an American organization, and that all those arrested in the "doctors' case" were released (April 3) and reinstated. It was officially announced (April 4) that the confessions of the accused had been obtained using "unacceptable methods of investigation." Lieutenant Colonel Ryumin, who was working on the "Doctors' Plot" (by that time had already been dismissed from the state security organs), was immediately arrested by order of Beria. But Genakh Gershenovich Yagoda, People's Commissar of the NKVD, destroyed hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the camps and cooked up false cases, in which people were shot. So the "doctors 'case" did not even come close to the atrocities of the same Yagoda, and therefore, stop lying about the "doctors' case".
                        Quote: borberd
                        If it’s tight with memory, I can remind you

                        Remind who Frenkel is and how he destroyed people in the Gulag so that the participation of Jews in the tragedy of our country would be clear.
                      5. 0
                        23 June 2020 13: 15
                        If at least one percent have the same look, then I do not envy your fellow tribesmen ... well, maybe at least they are beautiful. You contradict yourself, in the beginning - "the Jews fought on the Tashkent front", but now it is "Israeli propaganda and the Soviet people fought in general"? Do you have any idea how silly this statement looks?
                        Observers are sent precisely to the allies, or by agreement with the enemy. The USSR was precisely an ally until June 22, 1941, and not until 1933, when Hitler came to power. Guderian and Keitel came running as allies. The USSR, bypassing the Treaty of Versailles (which forbade the Germans from training pilots and tankers), trained personnel for the German army. I could teach you stories, but it’s not a horse’s feed. In short - the educational program is over, everything else is on the Internet.
                        I don’t even want to answer the rest of the nonsense about Yagoda and others. Push this blizzard to a different audience.
                      6. 0
                        23 June 2020 13: 46
                        Quote: borberd
                        I could teach you stories, but it’s not a horse’s feed.

                        And you better argue with the historian S.V. Naumov, who dealt with this issue professionally:

                        It should be noted that the first Soviet camps * arose even during the Civil War. The initiator of their creation was L. Trotsky (Leiba Davidovich Bronstein), which on August 4, 1918, in a telegram to the Vologda Provincial Commissar indicated: “The detention of suspects in concentration camps is a necessary condition for success” (Military History Journal, 1989, No. 8, p. 53).

                        https://newsland.com/community/4109/content/spisok-glavnykh-palachei-nachalnikov-lagerei/5453708
        2. -1
          17 June 2020 23: 00
          Quote: Civil
          It is a pity there is no one to intercede for Russia and the Russians.

          God will rule. Do not bother, and everything will be fine (as always).
      2. -2
        17 June 2020 13: 42
        Quote: Insurgent
        Here it is, the political backstage ...

        Does it bother you that the article appeared just at the time of voting on amendments to the Constitution, and even in a country where all citizens just dream of being our "brothers", like Ukrainians? By the way, since when has this vetoed UN decision been hidden from the public at large? Or does someone think that such a veto is imposed without discussion with the president?
        That it smells unclean here, and knowing the Israelis as "reliable" partners in the robbery of Russia, and where the capitals stolen from us and criminals convicted from us are hiding, I doubt that everything that is stated in the article is exactly the way they are trying to present it to us ...
        1. -3
          18 June 2020 01: 41
          Does it bother you that the article appeared just at the time of voting on amendments to the Constitution, and even in a country where all citizens just dream of being our "brothers", like Ukrainians?
          Even as embarrassing.
          Just one headline: "Israeli media: Putin saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories"
          In fact, the situation on the warhead was always explosive, it is enough to strike a match and then it will be difficult to put out the war on fire.
          Russia seeks to stabilize the situation and, accordingly, is trying to be the guarantor of this stability, and much is being achieved there.
          ---
          Accordingly, the Israeli media could write that thanks to the efforts of Russia in 2016, it was possible to avoid a large BV war, which could result in thousands and thousands of dead Arabs and Jews.
          And how is it written?
          Like, Putin (not Russia, namely Putin, although the Security Council of Russia makes similar decisions) helped Israel save the occupied territories. wassat

          Like, if not for Putin, then Israel would have remained without the occupied territories.
          Israel would be left not only without occupied territories, but also without Jews.

          The year 2016 was still fighting, but it was already clear that his days were already numbered. He urgently needed help. The war of the Arabs with Israel could act as such, where the igil would take the side of the Arabs and as a result not the Arabs would win, but the igil. In fact, the entire Arab population would merge into the igil. To defend Syria in these conditions would be extremely difficult.
          ---
          Those. Russia did not allow the outbreak of war in the BV, which allowed to defend Syria and gain a foothold on its territory as a stabilizing force in the BV.
          ---
          But even this circumstance, the Israeli media manage to deploy against Russia.
    2. +5
      17 June 2020 10: 13
      Putin is more interested in Jews, but he himself says that he is Russian, probably lying, as with his retirement age.
      1. -6
        17 June 2020 10: 28
        Putin is more interested in Jews
        bully
        Condemn Putin for supposedly helping Jews (i.e., your Jews are not worthy of help)
        And at the same time refer (i.e. believe) to the Jewish media wassat
        1. +10
          17 June 2020 11: 39
          Quote: flicker
          Putin is more interested in Jews
          bully
          Condemn Putin for supposedly helping Jews (i.e., your Jews are not worthy of help)
          And at the same time refer (i.e. believe) to the Jewish media wassat

          I believe that the Russians require help ...
          1. -6
            17 June 2020 12: 30
            I believe that the Russians require help ...


            And how can you help Russian?
            1. 0
              17 June 2020 12: 33
              Quote: Interlocutor
              I believe that the Russians require help ...


              And how can you help Russian?

              you need to put the Russians at the helm of the state, turn on the Russian culture and Russian religion, you need to return the Russian way of life, can you do something?
              1. -15
                17 June 2020 12: 36
                you need to put the Russians at the helm of the state, turn on the Russian culture and Russian religion, you need to return the Russian way of life, can you do something?


                No no . Run to the northern islands. Look for a cave to see people every 5 years sailing by. THERE WILL BE RUSSIAN. Around.
              2. +1
                18 June 2020 19: 08
                Quote: Bar1
                to put the Russians at the helm of the state, include Russian culture and Russian religion
                Pancake! Are you writing this on purpose ?! Two letters C should be in this word! Russian Russia! You corrected, you again! request
          2. +5
            17 June 2020 14: 27
            Quote: Bar1
            I believe that the Russians require help ...

            Just not from the Jews !!! And indeed from no one.
          3. -1
            17 June 2020 14: 54
            Russians need help
            From whom do they "demand" help?
  2. +10
    17 June 2020 09: 24
    because of Vladimir Putin, the creation of a Palestinian state within the borders of 1948 had to be postponed, which Israel was extremely happy about

    Well yes. Glad, glad .... Who would doubt it. Have you ever said thanks?
    1. +30
      17 June 2020 09: 34
      But did they say thanks to Stalin for their assistance in creating the state of Israel? Every centimeter of this country is occupied by Jews. So nothing live somehow
      1. -2
        17 June 2020 17: 02
        Quote: seregatara1969
        But did they say thanks to Stalin for their assistance in creating the state of Israel?

        Especially for those who still think that storks bring children.
        I will not in any way belittle the merits of the USSR in the creation of a Jewish state. Of the 33 states that voted "FOR" - 3 votes were from the USSR and 2 more from its satellites. (33 votes in favor, 13 against, 10 abstained).
        The votes are not decisive, but Israel is grateful to all and little Haiti and the great USSR - in the General Assembly all votes are equal and you can’t veto it.

        However, one more side to this issue should be understood. The creation of Israel naturally pushed Britain out of a strategically important region and could enable the USSR to take its place. The words of Stalin are widely known:
        “Let's agree to the formation of Israel. It will be like an awl in the ass for the Arab states and make them turn their backs on Britain. Ultimately, British influence will be completely undermined in Egypt, Syria, Turkey and Iraq."


        After the end of World War II, Great Britain could no longer hold its colonies and many of them gained independence. Palestine was no exception. Whether the UN would vote for the partition or not, the Jewish state by that time already existed de facto. It had its own government, the police and the armed forces, banks and enterprises, schools and the post office ...

        Yes, Joseph Vissarionovich graciously allowed Czechoslovakia to supply arms to Israel. He really needed a currency. The USSR lay in ruins, it needed to be restored, nothing but minerals and forests could be sold for currency, only they still needed to be mined and chopped.
        In short, the supply of weapons was not critical. They limited themselves to two dozen converted “Messerschmitts” at astronomical prices and small arms. Avia S-199 was delivered to Israel at a price of $ 180 per aircraft. For comparison: Americans sold fighters for $ 000, and bombers for $ 15 per plane.

        Palestinian Air Services purchased $ 46 C-5 Commando medium transport aircraft, $ 000 apiece C-69 Constellation four-engine transport aircraft, and $ 15 B-000 heavy bombers purchased in different countries.

        The war was still going on in Palestine, and the world famous theater director and Jewish public figure Solomon Mikhoels had already been killed by the staff of the USSR Ministry of State Security, the Slansky Case, inspired by the MGB in Czechoslovakia, will follow (11 were sentenced to death, three were sentenced to life imprisonment, there, among other things, they will blame those weapons for Israel, although it is Slansky who is the only one who objected to these deliveries), "Doctors' case", "Struggle against cosmopolitans" and other very serious repressions against Jews. Israel has never been afraid of domestic anti-Semitism. On the contrary, the more household workers put pressure on Jews, the more they come to Israel. Israel has always feared state anti-Semitism. All this could not please the young Jewish state, and for all its socialist nature (yes, Israel was created by idealist socialists, there was a very strong Communist Party and trade unions there at that time), went under the wing of the West, and the USSR began to help the Arab countries. So, it's too late to shed tears of crocodiles.
        1. -1
          18 June 2020 00: 37
          A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov) The votes are not decisive, but Israel is grateful to everyone and little Haiti and the great USSR - in the General Assembly all votes are equal and you can’t put a veto there.

          Are equal. Only the UN General Assembly Resolutions, unlike the UNSC Resolutions, are advisory in nature and not mandatory ... therefore, return the Gollan and the water sources next to them to the working people of the SAR ... by following the UNSC resolution ... and you will be happy .. (probably) ....
          Say thank you to Great Britain for abstaining and not raising the issue "bluntly" in the UN Security Council ...
          the Jewish state had already existed de facto. It had its own government, the police and the armed forces, banks and enterprises, schools and the post office ...

          Yes, there were separate kibbutzim and terrorist Jewish groups, which equally hated, both the British and the Arabs, which incl. periodically incited by the British on the Jews ... (I don't remember the author's book "To the East and West of Suez", L. Garth also described this period well in the "Strategy of Indirect Actions") ... about the USSR's aid to Israel in the first Arab-Israeli the war is also well described there, and the supply was carried out not only in the form of V and VT, but also by officers, former underground fighters and partisans and most of them were not Jews ... it was thanks to the USSR that Israel was not destroyed in that war ... for many old men in Israel still hang portraits of Stalin ...
          After the end of World War II, Great Britain could no longer hold its colonies and many of them gained independence. Palestine was no exception.

          Have you taken on the old again? Palestine is the same colony of Great Britain as Syria is a colony of France, now gullible members of the forum will hammer in the search engines two words "League of the Nation" and "mandated territories" and understand that you are again deceiving them at night ... You are ashamed ...
          So, pouring crocodile tears is too late.

          This eternal Jewish "modesty", which is why it is the Israeli Jews who think that the rest of humanity is afraid for the fate of Israel ...

          Good night....
          1. -3
            18 June 2020 06: 04
            Quote: Lara Croft
            Only UNGA Resolutions, unlike UNSC Resolutions, are advisory in nature, and not binding

            In fact, everything is exactly the opposite.
            Mandatory are exclusively resolutions of the UN General Assembly. So, for example, is obligatory for execution:
            UN Plan for Partition of Palestine - adopted on November 29, 1947 by resolution No. 181 of the United Nations General Assembly. (33 votes in favor, 13 against, 10 abstained)

            Exactly as required:
            UN General Assembly Resolution A / RES / 68/262 on the territorial integrity of Ukraine - adopted March 27, 2014. According to the resolution, the UN General Assembly confirms the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders and does not recognize the legality of any change in the status of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the status of the city of Sevastopol, based on the results of the general Crimean referendum held on March 16, 2014, since this referendum , according to this resolution, has no legal force.
            Of the 193 UN member countries, 100 voted in favor, 11 voted against, 58 abstained, and 24 did not vote.


            Rђ RІRѕS, UN Security Council Resolutions are only advisory in naturealas. Therefore, in spite of UN Security Council Resolution No. 497, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to Bashar Khafezovich. hi

            That's right. Palestine was the same colony of Great Britain, as Syria - a colony of France. It is under the mandates of the League of Nations.
            The French mandate lasted until 1943, Syria and Lebanon gained independence in 1946. Two years before Israel. There were no such states before the mandate. All this was the territory of the Ottoman Empire. In BV almost all states are remodelers.
            The British mandate ended in 1948 with the creation of the state of Israel.
            I’m here in VO, I’m probably writing for the hundredth time that in 1947, the United Nations gave the Arabs and Jews a ticket for the Train of History. The Jews accepted it with gratitude, and the Arabs began to dog and, right on the day of the proclamation of Independence, the whole crowd attacked the new-born Jewish state. For what they got tight on the horns and crawled off to lick their wounds.
            As a result, it is clear to everyone (but not everyone understands this) that History decreed in its own way: Israel is 72 years old, a quite prosperous state that has turned the desert into a garden of Eden, with a long life expectancy, with a strong army, excellent medicine, a powerful high-tech and military industry, with 100 billion exports, and Arabs to this day ride on donkeys cursing the Jews and blaming them for all their troubles ...

            Quote: Lara Croft
            delivery was carried out not only in the form of B and BT, but also by officers, former underground workers and partisans, most of whom were not Jews ... it was thanks to the USSR that Israel was not destroyed in that war ...

            I already once wrote that the myth of "Soviet volunteers" who allegedly took part in the Israeli War of Independence can be found on the Internet. The facts completely expose this myth. There is a special organization of volunteers in Israel - "MAHAL". In this organization there are names of about 4 volunteers, including men, women, Jews and non-Jews from 400 countries around the world, who came to the aid of the Jewish state during the difficult days of the War of Independence. There are no volunteers from the USSR.
            It is known that the creation of Israel caused a stream of appeals of Soviet Jews to the authorities of the USSR with a request to send them as volunteers to the fighting Jewish state. The Soviet authorities brutally suppressed this truly popular movement. A number of people who made such requests or tried to leave were illegally convicted by Soviet punitive bodies.
            As for the old people with portraits of Stalin, and even many ... The usual common bike.
            There was, at the time, a very strong Communist Party. Despite its small size, it occupied a serious niche in local politics. It still exists and is even represented in the Knesset, but there are almost only Arabs there. Well, the portraits of Stalin ended after the 20th Congress of the CPSU, which is quite natural.
            Something like that. hi
            1. -1
              18 June 2020 19: 55
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Quote: Lara Croft
              Only UNGA Resolutions, unlike UNSC Resolutions, are advisory in nature, and not binding

              In fact, everything is exactly the opposite.
              Mandatory are exclusively resolutions of the UN General Assembly.

              Not at all. You have not learned a lesson.
              Otherwise, provide sources of international law confirming your writings.
              But the UN Security Council Resolutions are only advisory in nature, alas. Therefore, in spite of UN Security Council Resolution No. 497, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to Bashar Khafezovich.

              Yes, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to the working people of the SAR, not because allegedly The UN Security Council resolution is advisory in nature, but because Israel does not care about the UN ...
              I have already written once that the myth about "Soviet volunteers" who allegedly took part in the Israeli War of Independence can be found online. The facts completely expose this myth.

              Yes, there are many who have already written something, if everyone was taken seriously, in VO, data mining with a server would have been done for a long time ...
              So write that you seem to be 100 years old, maybe you took part in the first Arab-Israeli war ...?
              There is a special organization of volunteers in Israel - "MAHAL". In this organization there are names of about 4 volunteers, including men, women, Jews and non-Jews from 400 countries around the world, who came to the aid of the Jewish state during the difficult days of the War of Independence. There are no volunteers from the USSR.

              And in the center of Tbilisi, there is a museum of "Soviet Occupation" and what can recognize the genocide of Georgians by the Soviet Union?
              Russia has received enough examples over the centuries of its existence that you will never receive from saved thanks, therefore it will no longer save anyone, developing its territory it will be viewed from the side ....
              Well, the portraits of Stalin ended after the 20th Congress of the CPSU

              Did you personally take the last off the wall?
              1. -1
                19 June 2020 00: 06
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Quote: A. Privalov
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Only UNGA Resolutions, unlike UNSC Resolutions, are advisory in nature, and not binding

                In fact, everything is exactly the opposite.
                Mandatory are exclusively resolutions of the UN General Assembly.

                Not at all. You have not learned a lesson.
                Otherwise, provide sources of international law confirming your writings.
                But the UN Security Council Resolutions are only advisory in nature, alas. Therefore, in spite of UN Security Council Resolution No. 497, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to Bashar Khafezovich.

                Yes, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to the working people of the SAR, not because allegedly The UN Security Council resolution is advisory in nature, but because Israel does not care about the UN ...
                I have already written once that the myth about "Soviet volunteers" who allegedly took part in the Israeli War of Independence can be found online. The facts completely expose this myth.

                Yes, there are many who have already written something, if everyone was taken seriously, in VO, data mining with a server would have been done for a long time ...
                So write that you seem to be 100 years old, maybe you took part in the first Arab-Israeli war ...?
                There is a special organization of volunteers in Israel - "MAHAL". In this organization there are names of about 4 volunteers, including men, women, Jews and non-Jews from 400 countries around the world, who came to the aid of the Jewish state during the difficult days of the War of Independence. There are no volunteers from the USSR.

                And in the center of Tbilisi, there is a museum of "Soviet Occupation" and what can recognize the genocide of Georgians by the Soviet Union?
                Russia has received enough examples over the centuries of its existence that you will never receive from saved thanks, therefore it will no longer save anyone, developing its territory it will be viewed from the side ....
                Well, the portraits of Stalin ended after the 20th Congress of the CPSU

                Did you personally take the last off the wall?

                In this case, my dear, I do not dare to delay it anymore. hi
                1. -2
                  19 June 2020 05: 25
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Only UNGA Resolutions, unlike UNSC Resolutions, are advisory in nature, and not binding

                  In fact, everything is exactly the opposite.
                  Mandatory are exclusively resolutions of the UN General Assembly.

                  Not at all. You have not learned a lesson.
                  Otherwise, provide sources of international law confirming your writings.
                  But the UN Security Council Resolutions are only advisory in nature, alas. Therefore, in spite of UN Security Council Resolution No. 497, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to Bashar Khafezovich.

                  Yes, Israel does not return the Golan Heights to the working people of the SAR, not because allegedly The UN Security Council resolution is advisory in nature, but because Israel does not care about the UN ...
                  I have already written once that the myth about "Soviet volunteers" who allegedly took part in the Israeli War of Independence can be found online. The facts completely expose this myth.

                  Yes, there are many who have already written something, if everyone was taken seriously, in VO, data mining with a server would have been done for a long time ...
                  So write that you seem to be 100 years old, maybe you took part in the first Arab-Israeli war ...?
                  There is a special organization of volunteers in Israel - "MAHAL". In this organization there are names of about 4 volunteers, including men, women, Jews and non-Jews from 400 countries around the world, who came to the aid of the Jewish state during the difficult days of the War of Independence. There are no volunteers from the USSR.

                  And in the center of Tbilisi, there is a museum of "Soviet Occupation" and what can recognize the genocide of Georgians by the Soviet Union?
                  Russia has received enough examples over the centuries of its existence that you will never receive from saved thanks, therefore it will no longer save anyone, developing its territory it will be viewed from the side ....
                  Well, the portraits of Stalin ended after the 20th Congress of the CPSU

                  Did you personally take the last off the wall?

                  In this case, my dear, I do not dare to delay it anymore. hi

                  Well, I thought so .... merged ....
                  Not knowledge of the sources of international law and their legal force, as well as insisting on its alternative version of world history, incl. the states of Israel, only confirm the correctness of my initial comment ...
                  However, all this can be forgiven if Israel returns to the working people of the SAR Gollan .... give someone else’s and it will be calmer and happier to you from the restored justice ...
      2. -4
        17 June 2020 20: 26
        Quote: seregatara1969
        And they said thanks to Stalin for their assistance in creating the state of Israel.
        Did Jews say thanks to the creation of the USSR? right here they say directly: Aviator6768 (Fedor) supposedly Jewish is the handiwork of the USSR, but where is that gratitude?
        1. +1
          18 June 2020 11: 38
          Quote: muham
          Did Jews say thanks to the creation of the USSR?

          Thanks for that? If they weren’t, our Civil War would not have been so bloody, and the revolution itself would have taken place without their participation. So you should not tidy up the past, otherwise the presented bill will obviously not be in favor of the Jews of the Russian Empire.
          1. -2
            18 June 2020 18: 56
            Quote: ccsr
            Thanks for that?
            If they weren’t, they would still be near the Romanovs. For those praising the USSR - thank Nadot, well, Stalin also thanked. And who is for Nicholas, then yes, there is nothing to thank ...
            1. +2
              18 June 2020 19: 13
              Quote: muham
              If they weren’t, they would still be near the Romanovs.

              You probably have not heard about the February revolution.
              Quote: muham
              For those praising the USSR - thank Nadot,

              Is this for the Countrywoman, Yagoda or Trotsky?
              I see no reason to thank them at all, if only because their participation in the history of our country did not bring anything good when you sum up the results of the 20th century.
              1. -1
                19 June 2020 10: 24
                Quote: ccsr
                I see no reason to thank them at all, if only because their participation in the history of our country did not bring anything good when you sum up the results of the 20th century.
                But what about? If Jews should be grateful for the pogroms, for their systematic destruction, for the cause of the doctors for the Birobidzhan for the continuous pumping and support of the Arabs against the Jews, then of course, thank. And I did not mention the benefits.
                1. 0
                  19 June 2020 17: 43
                  Quote: muham
                  But what about? If Jews should thank for the pogroms,

                  In fact, Jewish pogroms were more often in other countries than in the Russian Empire - in the Third Reich for example.
                  Quote: muham
                  for their systematic destruction,

                  This is a lie - no one specifically destroyed Jews in Russia, and vice versa allowed them to occupy high posts in the state. But many Jews distinguished themselves during the Civil War precisely in that they committed atrocities in the extermination of people of a different nationality.
                  Quote: muham
                  for the doctors

                  And who organized the purges in 1937 - was it not Henry Yagoda by chance? Did his henchmen take up the doctors later?
                  Quote: muham
                  for birobidzhan

                  Have you dreamed that Crimea will be presented to you to create an autonomous region? It would not be very greasy, especially since no country in the world has a Jewish autonomous region - this is how Comrade Stalin took care of the persecuted people.
                  Quote: muham
                  and the support of the Arabs against the Jews,

                  So Comrade Stalin helped create the state of Israel, and the Israelis threw him. So I had to change the vector of assistance, in the hope that the Arab proletariat would be a more faithful assistant to the USSR than Israeli shopkeepers. The dialectic of Marxism, and your homegrown propaganda does not work against it, put up with it.
                  1. -1
                    20 June 2020 07: 56
                    Quote: ccsr
                    Actually Jewish pogroms
                    Were in Russia more than anywhere else, but you have nothing to nod at others if the face is crooked.
                    Quote: ccsr
                    no one specifically destroyed Jews in Russia,
                    This is a lie - Closing the population in the Pale of Settlement and preventing equal opportunities is destruction
                    Quote: ccsr
                    And who organized the purges in 1937 - was it not Henry Yagoda by chance?
                    Stalin, Stalin was the main leader - to him with claims and go. Have you chosen? Why are you whining now. Know how to be responsible for your actions.
                    Quote: ccsr
                    Have you dreamed that Crimea will be presented to you to create an autonomous region?
                    To me? Why do I need it? By the way, they would give it to the Jews, they would rebuild it no worse than Israel. And so - according to relics and fir trees.
                    Quote: ccsr
                    So comrade Stalin helped create the state of Israel
                    Well, helped, so what? They previously helped him with money, and introduced him to the world - thanks as well. But he is the other way around.
                    1. 0
                      20 June 2020 11: 05
                      Quote: muham
                      Were in Russia more than anywhere else, but you have nothing to nod at others if the face is crooked.

                      You’re lying because the Jewish pogroms in Russia were suppressed by the authorities and they were rare, and interestingly, they arose where the Russian minority lived - in Moldova, Odessa province, etc.
                      Quote: muham
                      This is a lie - Closing the population in the Pale of Settlement and preventing equal opportunities is destruction

                      All Jews of Russia had equal opportunities if they adopted Christianity. Within the Pale of Settlement, Orthodox Jews who did not want to pass the laws of the Russian Empire were closed, and ordinary Jews lived in the capital and had their own synagogues.
                      Quote: muham
                      Stalin, Stalin was the main leader - to him with claims and go. Have you chosen?

                      No, the Jews, in particular, who rubbed a lot around him, chose him in particular, so they paid for their choice.
                      Quote: muham
                      By the way, they would give it to the Jews, they would rebuild it no worse than Israel.

                      Finally broke through, and resentment crept out that you were not given the Crimea, which was the main reason for your resentment against Stalin.
                      Quote: muham
                      Well, helped, so what?

                      And the fact that you were ungrateful, however, as always.
                      Quote: muham
                      They previously helped him with money, and presented to the world - thanks, too.

                      I have not heard about this - this is probably another joke from Zhvanetsky.
                      1. -1
                        20 June 2020 16: 09
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Jewish pogroms in Russia were suppressed by the authorities
                        And here you started to fuck, It is well known that the pogroms were from the blessing of the authorities,
                        Quote: ccsr
                        they arose where a minority of Russians lived
                        They arose under Russian authority, that is, responsibility on the Russian authorities. Do you like drawing to understand, or a bad case?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        All Jews of Russia had equal opportunities if they adopted Christianity. Within the Pale of Settlement, Orthodox Jews who did not want to pass the laws of the Russian Empire were closed, and ordinary Jews lived in the capital and had their own synagogues.
                        There are no Christian Jews in nature, no matter what you or other dreamers think about it. So there is religious discrimination. As I told you before, there is destruction. Do you like drawing to understand, or a bad case?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        No, they chose him in particular
                        What not? what not The Russians did not choose him? Being the absolute majority? What are you talking about? Do you like drawing to understand, or a bad case?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        And the fact that you were ungrateful, however, as always
                        Who are you? Jews? So turn to them. I explain to you that it is primarily ingratitude from the Russians, and therefore there is no reason to nod at others if the face is crooked. Do you like drawing to understand, or a bad case?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        I have not heard about this
                        You should hear that in all animals of anti-Semitic rumors it is so selective. but can you draw to understand, or a bad case?
                      2. +1
                        20 June 2020 17: 15
                        Quote: muham
                        And here you started to fuck, It is well known that the pogroms were from the blessing of the authorities,

                        This heinous lie is spread by the citizens of Israel in order to explain their sausage emigration.
                        Quote: muham
                        They arose under Russian authority, that is, responsibility on the Russian authorities.

                        Naturally under power - this happened not only in the Russian Empire, but also in other countries of the world. But why didn’t this happen in the USSR, but the Jews nevertheless faded to Israel - can you explain?
                        Quote: muham
                        There are no Christian Jews in nature,

                        There are - on our television Solovyov and Norkin say that they are Orthodox Christians.
                        Quote: muham
                        So there is religious discrimination.

                        You’re lying as usual, because even in the capital, RI was allowed to build one of the largest synagogues in the world:
                        On December 8, 1893, the solemn consecration of the Great Synagogue was held. The leaders of the community opened the central door with a silver key and brought 7 Torah scrolls into the hall.
                        The first scroll was carried by the chairman of the board of the community, the millionaire baron Gunzburg, followed by the big Jewish aces - M. A. Varshavsky and L. Ya Polyakov. We read a prayer for the repose of Tsar Alexander 2.

                        Quote: muham
                        or bad case?

                        You yourself are rotten, and this is very noticeable in your argument.
                      3. -1
                        22 June 2020 21: 06
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Israeli citizens spread lies in order to explain their sausage emigration.
                        With this "sausage" emigration, they haaarasho pushed the Russian protege to the Arabs. Despite the tremendous superiority in "bayonets" as well as in technology that has no analogues. And it’s just you, without a doubt.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Naturally under power - this happened not only in the Russian Empire, but also in other countries of the world. But why didn’t this happen in the USSR, but the Jews nevertheless faded to Israel - can you explain?
                        So it is natural to you that the Russian government sponsored the pogroms (and what others had was not an excuse) - so everything is clear with you, animal anti-Semite. In the USSR there was another kind of anti-Smithism, limits were set on the number of Jews, and there is nothing to say about the case of doctors and Birobidzhan. So it was in the USSR, and therefore there was a reason to flee to Israel, leaving almost everything. And why do not the Jews and strive to equip their country? Not all the virgin lands but BAM. That is equipped. If it weren’t for people like you, you would work in Russia.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        There are - on our television Solovyov and Norkin say that they are Orthodox Christians.
                        Well, the flag in their hands, and the Jews to do with it?
                        Quote: ccsr
                        You’re lying as usual, because even in the capital, RI was allowed to build one of the largest synagogues in the world:
                        Are you telling a lie, you're lying, how are you breathing, and how is the synagogue built to discriminate against Jews in Russia? No way. Was there discrimination? It was!
                        I see you and drawing will not help, a really bad case.
                      4. +1
                        23 June 2020 12: 52
                        Quote: muham
                        In the USSR, there was another kind of anti-Smithism,

                        It’s okay to lie - you didn’t live in the USSR, and you don’t know how many Jews were at the top of power then, that’s nonsense.
                        Quote: muham
                        So it was in the USSR, and therefore there was a reason to flee to Israel, leaving almost everything. And why do not the Jews and strive to equip their country?

                        I personally am glad that you have left to equip your country — believe me, no one in the USSR suffered from this. On the contrary, I consider it a big mistake of our rulers that they did not organize free Odessa-Haifa flights for those leaving, but made it difficult for them to leave. As a result, many Soviet Jews simply did not reach Israel, and for some reason settled in Europe and the USA. Apparently not too eager to equip your country ...
                        Quote: muham
                        Well, the flag in their hands, and the Jews to do with it?

                        So you claimed that there are no Jewish Christians - so I showed you that they happen.
                        Quote: muham
                        Was there discrimination? It was!

                        Yes, no, this is how it really was:

                        By the way, precisely because of this scoundrel, Lezhov was not given the second star of the Hero - everything is described in detail in the book.
    2. +13
      17 June 2020 09: 35
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      Have you ever said thanks?

      Who? they are ? and thanks ?
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      1. -1
        17 June 2020 15: 54
        This is, to put it mildly, slander.
    4. +1
      17 June 2020 14: 29
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      Well yes. Glad, glad .... Who would doubt it. Have you ever said thanks?

      They didn’t just say, but did it - the IL-20 was put under attack.
  3. +6
    17 June 2020 09: 24
    And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?
    Facts in the "studio"!
    1. +7
      17 June 2020 10: 04
      Well, they put military Il under a rocket, 20 of our soldiers died.
    2. -8
      17 June 2020 10: 07
      And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?

      At least the fact that this is one of not many countries that are not trying to wipe their feet on Russia.
      1. -1
        18 June 2020 00: 47
        Quote: Simon Schempp
        And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?

        At least the fact that this is one of not many countries that are not trying to wipe their feet on Russia.

        Keyword trying ....
        There are a lot of really trying and dreaming about it, but only after the 45th is the road to everyone's skin ...
        Once every 100 years, the Europeans are going to solve the "Russian question", and everything ends either with the Cossacks in Paris, or the Red Army men in Berlin ...
        .... you need it, try ....?
    3. +1
      17 June 2020 10: 31
      And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?
      Clearly, he throws firewood into the bonfire before voting for amendments.
    4. +2
      17 June 2020 17: 09
      Quote: askort154
      And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?
      Facts in the "studio"!

      Israel never votes at the UN for resolutions against the Russian Federation. In the General Assembly, all votes are equal and there is no veto. It is better to have a little friend than a big enemy. Does not join any sanctions. Unlike Russia, it constantly supports anti-Israeli resolutions. For the 73 years of Israel’s existence, this is the first time that Russia has responded positively to Israel’s request. But she didn’t even have to veto. Barak was afraid to lose his face and canceled the vote.
      1. +1
        17 June 2020 19: 17
        ..this is the first time that Russia has responded positively to Israel’s request.


        Good day!
        "Publication about publications", and without a signature, in itself raises reasonable doubts, and the real story - doubts in the square.
        1. 0
          17 June 2020 20: 08
          Quote: Iris
          ..this is the first time that Russia has responded positively to Israel’s request.


          Good day!
          "Publication about publications", and without a signature, in itself raises reasonable doubts, and the real story - doubts in the square.

          https://inosmi.ru/politic/20200617/247613892.html
          1. 0
            17 June 2020 20: 26
            You know better to what extent this information can be called reliable. But accepting it as such raises many questions.
            1. 0
              17 June 2020 21: 23
              Quote: Iris
              You know better to what extent this information can be called reliable. But accepting it as such raises many questions.

              An article from a daily respectable newspaper. No complaints. There are always questions. Answers can be more difficult, but here everything is clear. Obama has long been at the junkyard of history, Putin is driving. Netanyahu with their problems, but coping. What?
  4. +14
    17 June 2020 09: 28
    Why is Israel so worried? Session of simultaneous play on all boards? One grandmaster also played like that, though later he ticked along the river
  5. +1
    17 June 2020 09: 29
    Thanks? And what is gratitude? Israel does not know such words. Should have helped, period ... wassat
    1. +17
      17 June 2020 10: 00
      I remember after the clemency of an Israeli drug addict, she put megatons of a well-known substance about Russia in her leaflets.
      1. +5
        17 June 2020 10: 18
        The president himself said that she was arrested essentially illegally. She did not cross the border of the Russian Federation moving in transit from India to Israel. In both of these countries, no punishment is imposed for such volumes of hemp and they are allowed for transportation. Now, if she with this hemp left the international transit zone of the airport - then there would be a legal arrest. And for some reason she was inspected and illegally dragged out by force. For good, there should have been no amnesty, but simply the closure of the case with the removal of the charges. But we have what we have, even so. And considering that she spent a year in prison. No wonder what she thinks of Russia.
        1. 0
          17 June 2020 12: 21
          Quote: forest1
          She did not cross the border of the Russian Federation in transit

          Well, maybe let him look for another transit? )))
          1. +2
            17 June 2020 12: 35
            Yes, it was her mistake. She did not know that in Russia international law is so violated. And that in practice Russia does not consider such an international zone of the airport. Although it declares that it seems like it considers it. Even allegedly Snowden did not give out due to the fact that he was in the transit zone. Where Russia should not extend its jurisdiction. Personally, I am inclined to associate what happened, that this is a dirty trick for the incident with the downed IL-20. This happened immediately after the downing and caused a powerful reaction from Israel. However, maybe of course there was no connection
        2. +1
          17 June 2020 12: 24
          Drug transit is for nothing !? It's five. The conclusions our government will make.
          1. +2
            17 June 2020 12: 33
            This is with us this is drugs in India and Israel, these are permitted substances. Alcohol is also a drug, however, it is not punished. Until you drive
        3. +1
          17 June 2020 18: 48
          Quote: forest1
          The president himself said that she was arrested essentially illegally.

          why did the prosecutor’s office, the FSB and our court violate the LAW? After all, she did not violate anything, but was convicted.
      2. +2
        17 June 2020 16: 48
        .. in her bloches imposed megatons of a well-known substance about Russia


        Is it possible to link to the blog?
        1. 0
          18 June 2020 00: 52
          Quote: Iris
          .. in her bloches imposed megatons of a well-known substance about Russia

          Is it possible to link to the blog?

          In google banned? The poor lackeys were taken away ...
  6. +4
    17 June 2020 09: 33
    Benjamin Netanyahu called Putin and asked to block this decision of the UN Security Council in order to maintain stability in the region.
    Well "stability“We are observing everything in the region, and it cannot be more stable. Again we have rounded the GDP around our finger, although he is a government official, but he doesn’t know much about people.
    1. -5
      17 June 2020 10: 30
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Once again, the GDP was circled around the finger, although it’s gbshnik, but it is poorly understood in people.

      article title Israeli media: Blah, blah, blah ....

      Do you believe Israeli media? Please give a monosyllabic answer - YES or NO.
      1. +4
        17 June 2020 11: 24
        Quote: Nasr
        Do you believe Israeli media? Please give a monosyllabic answer - YES or NO.

        I do not believe in any media, because all the media are paid and published, for which they were paid, whether it be Russian, whether Israeli, whether Nigerian.
        1. -5
          17 June 2020 11: 56
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Nasr
          Do you believe Israeli media? Please give a monosyllabic answer - YES or NO.

          I do not believe in any media, because all the media are paid and published, for which they were paid, whether it be Russian, whether Israeli, whether Nigerian.

          Do not believe me, but draw conclusions based on these media !!! laughing
          example:
          Quote: tihonmarine
          ... Again circled the GDP around the finger,

          laughing
          It’s good that these mass media didn’t inform about your orientation, otherwise many comrades (your comrades), relying on these mass media, could look askance at you ...
          1. +3
            17 June 2020 12: 04
            Quote: Nasr
            It’s good that these mass media didn’t inform about your orientation, otherwise many comrades, relying on these mass media, could turn their backs on you ...

            Let them turn away, I'm not a girl that everyone would like.
            1. -1
              17 June 2020 12: 21
              Quote: tihonmarine
              ... I'm not a girl that everyone would like.

              By the way, the Israeli media could report that you are a girl, moreover, a sale ... wassat And what? Many would believe! You believed the stories about Netanyahu, Obama, Putin and their intrigues! good
              1. +4
                17 June 2020 12: 36
                Quote: Nasr
                And what? Many would believe!

                I had no doubt that they would definitely believe you. Do you believe these three? They say one thing and do another.
  7. +7
    17 June 2020 09: 36
    Chatterbox this Netanyahu! Why talk about "behind the scenes". Or wants to embroil us with the Palestinians?
    1. 0
      17 June 2020 09: 41
      Quote: Valery Valery
      Why talk about "behind the scenes". Or wants to embroil us with the Palestinians?

      request

      But the tub of slops is poured out a fair amount. It remains to wait for the reaction of the GDP itself and the "Kremlin pool" ...

      "The Empire will strike back", or will it dry up silently?
      1. 0
        17 June 2020 11: 18
        Will the empire strike back, "or will it dry up in silence?
        By whom to apply?
      2. 0
        17 June 2020 11: 25
        Quote: Insurgent
        "The Empire will strike back", or will it dry up silently?

        Silently, we will dry ourselves.
    2. -2
      17 June 2020 12: 31
      Israel is preparing to seize the territory of the Palestinian state. Trump's plan, which was announced as "the deal of the century." The result should be the elimination of a single territory, the taking under full control of the border with Jordan and the corral of the Palestinians on the reservation. This is in fact. A serious step. A war of conquest in our time is not welcome. And Netanyahu is trying to convince his population that this plan is supported not only by the United States, but also by the Russian Federation. He wants to remain in the history of Israel not as a head, the entire term of his reign is on trial, but as a conqueror and enlargement of Israel's territory. request
      But what about the Obama resolution. Would the GDP support the declaration of Palestine within 48 years or not - it would still have no effect on anything. Israel spits on the UN for fifty years. Only the Palestinians themselves can break the "deal of the century" with a new wave of intifada and defending the remnants of their territory with arms in hand. No one will protect them - or they will fight off themselves or go to the reservations. If they cannot, it means Israel deserves to annex these territories by the right of conquest. We will see. Abbas is certainly not Arafat, of course, but the Hezis and Iran are on his side. request
      1. -3
        17 June 2020 16: 59
        The Palestinian "state" exists only at one point of the planet: Moscow, Kropotkinsky per. 26 Art. 2. All over the rest of the Earth there is the National Palestinian Authority of the State of Israel. As far as control of the border with Jordan is concerned, as far as I know, everything is in order with it since 1967.
        1. +2
          17 June 2020 17: 19
          The independence of the State of Palestine was recognized by 137 of the 193 UN member states. This is quite enough. The Palestinian territories, despite the existence of partial Palestinian governance on them, are still considered by the UN to be occupied by Israel. There are no other international bodies that would have thought otherwise. wink
          1. 0
            17 June 2020 17: 55
            Indeed, he got excited) And, nevertheless, in this issue - objectively speaking - political dualism should be stated. The "state" Palestine - recognized by 137 countries - does not have full membership in the UN, does not have its own currency, 99% depends on the supply of water and electricity from Israel, and, finally, does not have the authority to protect its own territory. Even leaving out of brackets such a piquant nuance as terrorism as an item of state income, all the same - despite all the admissions - we have signs of a Quasi-state that is unable (and does not want) to exist on its own.
          2. +1
            18 June 2020 13: 35
            And what about then this resolution - "Resolution of the UN General Assembly A / RES / 68/262"? Good position - we see here, here we don't see, here we wrap the fish.
  8. +3
    17 June 2020 09: 42
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Thanks? And what is gratitude? Israel does not know such words. Should have helped, period ... wassat

    You don’t see beyond your own nose. Thanks again! By your presence there. Even if you don’t want to do this. Exciting neighbors who are FORCED to be in the wake of the USSR-Russia, and depending on his (her) help. Well, just by virtue of its availability. This is what allows us to be present where Russia considers it important and necessary for itself. .
    1. 0
      17 June 2020 11: 20
      By your presence there. Even if you don’t want to do this. Exciting neighbors who are FORCED to be in the wake of the USSR-Russia, and depending on his (her) help
      This is yes.
    2. 0
      17 June 2020 18: 17
      Very true and subtle remark. hi For the sake of justice, however, it should be said that the regiment of countries, FORCED to be in the wake of the USSR - Russia, rather departed than arrived. The monarchies of the Persian Gulf, which, in view of the Iranian threat, have urgently revised the paradigm of Arab-Israeli relations and are racing to establish "unofficial contacts", which are widely discussed in the press, are not averse to Egypt and Jordan. Assad, if he were smarter, would have gone the same path long ago, but if a politician from you, like an ophthalmologist from Netanyahu, then the lot of your country is a civil war, and your own is a dubious throne made of alien bayonets.

      His example is utterly indicative and will not be taken into account by the countries of the region when their leadership makes foreign policy decisions.
  9. +5
    17 June 2020 09: 45
    Now the members of the forum will come from the Promised Land, and they will say in chorus "you will never be able to do it" !!! lol
    1. -1
      17 June 2020 10: 01
      Yeah. And Minus will be a flock. lol
  10. +2
    17 June 2020 09: 53
    Benjamin Netanyahu called Putin and asked to block this decision of the UN Security Council in order to maintain stability in the region. The arguments of the Israeli prime minister convinced the president of the Russian Federation. He told Netanyahu that if the resolution were put to a vote, the Russian Federation would veto it.

    Netanyahu - lived, Netanyahu - alive, Netanyahu - will live! (c) B. Netanyahu wassat
    1. -3
      17 June 2020 11: 26
      Netanyahu - lived, Netanyahu - alive, Netanyahu - will live!
      The first two statements are indisputable, on the account of the third there are big doubts - for "nothing lasts forever under the moon" bully
      1. 0
        17 June 2020 11: 33
        Quote: flicker
        The first two statements are indisputable, on the account of the third there are big doubts - for "nothing lasts forever under the moon"

        You are not the first with this thought, our colleague, Oleg Sokolov ("The Professor"), has been thinking this way for several years wassat
  11. +3
    17 June 2020 09: 55
    The friendly and laid-back setup with the IL-20 was apparently a deep European appreciation for this.
    1. +9
      17 June 2020 10: 06
      I’m not even among the admirers of Israel, but the truth is more expensive. Since they shot down Il, do not substitute. I am sure. It was necessary to carefully monitor the Syrians in the area of ​​our base. And the interception of the target on the flight path, judging by the description of the Two Hundreds, is quite a real phenomenon.
      1. +1
        17 June 2020 10: 12
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        I’m not even among the admirers of Israel, but the truth is more expensive.

        Quote: Cyril G ...
        And the interception of the target on the flight path, judging by the description of the Two Hundreds, is quite a real phenomenon.

        FOR THE TRUTH +
        1. +3
          17 June 2020 16: 48
          I’ll also add that the cause of the death of the Tu-154 scheduled route (the one from Tel Aviv) over the Black Sea is generally the same apparently, which was imposed on zero calculation preparation. At the time of the catastrophe, Ukrainians did not shoot for a long time. Well, of course, the ignorance of the organizers who did not want to understand that the danger zone when firing SAMs should be calculated on the basis of the range of missiles SAM max. along the most favorable trajectory X 1.5.
          As a result - the same interception of the target on the trajectory of a semi-active radar seeker missile launcher and catastrophe.
      2. 0
        17 June 2020 10: 22
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        I’m not even among the admirers of Israel, but the truth is more expensive. Since they shot down Il, do not substitute. I am sure. It was necessary to carefully monitor the Syrians in the area of ​​our base. And the interception of the target on the flight path, judging by the description of the Two Hundreds, is quite a real phenomenon.

        And I do not condone the Syrians at all. But when planning the action, no one bothers to take into account the features of the skills (gouging) of all the persons participating in them?
        1. +2
          17 June 2020 11: 29
          Quote: Aleksandre
          And I do not condone the Syrians at all.

          You are right, as they didn’t blame the Israelis on the fact that they set up the IL, but the Syrians pulled the trigger.
        2. +4
          17 June 2020 12: 22
          This is our responsibility to take into account the specifics of the contingent under supervision. Organize interaction, forbidden sectors and more ...

          For understanding, there is a declassified book on a survey of the Syrian Air Force and Air Defense in 1987-89, so that’s what killed me, at that time the Syrians didn’t ask to provide them with an Arabic translation of the Technical Description and operating instructions for the air defense systems and Syrian aircraft.
      3. 0
        17 June 2020 10: 25
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Since they shot down Il, do not substitute.

        Perhaps in this particular case it was .. But the facts of covering with our sides are enough ...
    2. -6
      17 June 2020 10: 08
      The friendly and laid-back setup with the IL-20 was apparently a deep Jewish appreciation for this.
      For such at least the full civilian side of the Russian Federation must be substituted.
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  12. -1
    17 June 2020 09: 55
    It would be better if he defended Ukraine, and the Israelis paid us in full in Syria
  13. +4
    17 June 2020 09: 55
    laughing And now what to say to the Arab world with the Palestinians ... After such a statement?
    1. +1
      17 June 2020 10: 06
      Quote: parusnik
      laughing And now what to say to the Arab world with the Palestinians ... After such a statement?

      Ahlan va-sahlan! bully
      1. +1
        17 June 2020 11: 37
        Quote: Dym71
        Ahlan va-sahlan!
        "Two hungry people will never be satisfied: one hungry for knowledge and one hungry for the blessings of the earth."
    2. +2
      17 June 2020 10: 08
      And now what to say to the Arab world with the Palestinians
      So it’s designed!
    3. 0
      17 June 2020 11: 35
      And now what to say to the Arab world with the Palestinians ... After such a statement?
      And what to say?
      Let them fight! laughing
      But that’s what neither one nor the other wants to fight.
  14. +8
    17 June 2020 10: 11
    When Putin leaves, we will learn many more interesting things.
    1. +9
      17 June 2020 10: 20
      Quote: steel maker
      When Putin leaves, we will learn many more interesting things.

      Yes, whom our Darkest in the world did not save, acre of our own pensioners. crying
      1. -9
        17 June 2020 11: 39
        Yes, whom our Darkest in the world did not save
        Saved Russia.
        And thus he gave other countries hope to be saved.
        ---
        1. +4
          17 June 2020 12: 02
          Quote: flicker
          Saved Russia.
          And thus he gave other countries hope to be saved.

          Are you talking about this? bully
  15. 0
    17 June 2020 10: 17
    Israel owes a lot to the USSR / Russia. From the creation and the possibility of becoming a state, to the current existence. Jews, admittedly, are smart people. All of them perfectly understand this, only they have not particularly accepted their thoughts to voice out loud. But with the Persians and others. Russia will continue to be friends. You never know what.
    1. +4
      17 June 2020 11: 16
      Quote: Junior Private
      Israel owes a lot to the USSR / Russia.

      Let's split the flies from cutlets
      1. The USSR voted to create the state of Israel.
      2. In the war of independence of 1948 he helped with weapons.
      3. But after Israel did not go along the lines allotted to him by Stalin from 1950 to 1991, Israel did not fit into the line of the CPSU.
      Quote: Junior Private
      and the possibility of becoming a state, to the present existence.

      But please bring this, YOU as the USSR and Russia were engaged in the formation of the state of Israel even to the present existence.
      1. +2
        17 June 2020 11: 27
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        But please bring this, YOU as the USSR and Russia were engaged in the formation of the state of Israel even to the present existence.

        Yes please feel
      2. +1
        17 June 2020 13: 40
        Vitaly (allow me to address you like that?), You do not understand the "line of the CPSU" (now Russia) a little, it does not mean that the "ally" obediently trudges in the communist channel, but that it is self-sufficient and has influence in its region , the more polymeric. Israel, like no one else, is suitable for this role. Especially in BV, where the devil himself cannot figure it out, and the Arabs have seven Fridays a week, and they are all Mondays. Do you not know that the very essence of "friendship" between Christians and Arabs is very different. If you give them money, they will waste it on thoroughbred camels with glass and still beg. And Israel is not like that. And by playing on the differences in mentality, Russia may well decide its geopolitical affairs.

        Regarding your question about helping the establishment of Israel, without even touching on the many economic mutual benefits, I think it is enough to mention that Israel's "friendly" neighbors are not overwhelmed by no less friendly Russian RKs (this should be appreciated!), You are forgiven a lot, no one pushes speeches at the UN a la Ahmadinejad, and personally I somehow even bought an Israeli carrot.
        May there be peace!
        1. +1
          17 June 2020 15: 12
          Quote: Junior Private
          Russia may well decide its geopolitical affairs.

          I agree.
          Quote: Junior Private
          many economic mutual benefits,

          I also agree, mutually beneficial. I suppose there are more serious carrots.
          Quote: Junior Private
          Israel's "friendly" neighbors are not overwhelmed by no less friendly Russian RKs (this should be appreciated!)

          2005 "friendly" cornets damaged the IDF. Yes, today Russia does not donate weapons, but sells and its aggressive neighbors have diminished, and they understand that today Israel has gone far ahead in weapons and other technologies to protect its country. And the fact that in the Middle East today there are countries that dream of the revival of the former power in the region and even a hidden alliance with Israel suits them.
          And I agree with that
          May there be peace!
          1. +4
            17 June 2020 15: 45
            You see how great it is when there is a common understanding of geopolitical issues.
            1. +1
              17 June 2020 19: 44
              Quote: Junior Private
              You see how great it is when there is a common understanding of geopolitical issues.

              You see how we quickly resolved this issue, and Putin and Netanyahu have much more information. This is called MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL cooperation.
  16. -3
    17 June 2020 10: 29
    The opinion of the Israelis about this? )))
    Will you pour mud in the comments and cover yourself with "sides"? Everything is as usual ?
    1. -2
      17 June 2020 11: 46
      Judging by the minuses, the six-pointed ones pulled themselves up ... But they are silent ...
  17. -1
    17 June 2020 10: 34
    "And there are half of our people ..." (Vysotsky V.S.) There are many Caucasians (Russians) who live there, who portray Jews with the Moscow Art Theater authenticity, but the Palestinians are real indigenous people, probably more akin to those archaic God's chosen sons of Moisyuk than the current population, we are not particularly interested. Not related.
    1. +6
      17 June 2020 11: 48
      "In 1845, according to the Prussian consul, the population (of Jerusalem) was 16 - 410 Jews, 7120 Muslims, 5000 3 Christians, 390 Turkish soldiers and 800 Europeans."
    2. -1
      18 June 2020 14: 07
      Quote: geologist
      but the Palestinians - the true indigenous people, probably more related to those archaic God-chosen sons of Moisyuk than the current population, are not particularly interesting to us. Not a relative.

      Yeah, indigenous, somewhere in the Arabian sands. According to the papal envoy who visited Palestine in 1760. The only Muslim family in Palestine resided in Gaza. Neither in Jerusalem, nor in other places, Muslims were observed. In Jerusalem, Tiberias, Hebron .. only Jews and Christians lived.
  18. +2
    17 June 2020 10: 36
    It is clear that international politics is not in a battle with the enemy head to head, but a tricky business, often behind the scenes. But that's why right now Netanyahu decided to openly name the GDP, and not 4 years ago. And it’s not quite proper for the Prime Minister to disclose the agreements that happened face to face. And as often happens in such cases, a confidential conversation that gives publicity does not reveal the whole essence of this conversation, especially the details regarding it personally.
    1. +1
      17 June 2020 11: 44
      why right now Netanyahu decided to openly name the GDP, and not 4 years ago
      So I'm interested.
  19. -6
    17 June 2020 10: 41
    Quote: Machete
    Do you want to change the name?
    It seems to be one letter, but the meaning is completely changing. Israeli media: Putin saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories

    So how should it be? Like this?
    Israeli media: Putana saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories
  20. -9
    17 June 2020 10: 43
    Netanyahu is trying to engage in a primitive political divorce - Barack Obama, a protege of the US Jewish diaspora, would never have opposed Israel.

    American Jews caught up in the American Spring skating rink twitched and began to generate fakes through the mouth of their Middle Eastern mongrel Netanyahu. But nothing will help them, because one of the slogans of the American Spring is "Suitcase, train station, Israel" bully
    1. -3
      17 June 2020 11: 06
      Obama's position means "the beginning of the end of the Jewish state" www.bbc.com/russian/international/2011/05/110520_obama_american_jewish
      1. 0
        17 June 2020 12: 04
        I recall that the BBC still disseminated a misinformation about Skripal poisoning with paralytic substance, after which the pupils of the eyes widened laughing
        1. -3
          17 June 2020 19: 43
          And what do you think they were poisoned with? Burning British vodka?
          1. 0
            17 June 2020 20: 33
            Psychotropic BOV type BZ - dilated pupils
            https://www.kazedu.kz/referat/33218
            1. 0
              17 June 2020 20: 44
              Yes, it is possible.
    2. 0
      17 June 2020 11: 28
      Quote: Operator
      Barack Obama, a protege of the Jewish diaspora in the United States, would never have opposed Israel.

      You either do not own the information or just a propagandist
      Former Illinois Republican Republican Party Congressman Radio Joe Walsh Announces Current President Barack Obama is Muslim
      “Last week everyone asked the only question - why does Obama hate Israel? The answer is very simple - I think Obama is a Muslim. I have already talked about this once. And when I call him Muslim, it complicates the life of the Republican Party and my radio stations. I say this because I believe in it. I know many radio presenters and members of Congress, many from Fox News, who privately call Obama a Muslim, but are afraid to make this publicly out of fear of losing ratings. But I'm not afraid to say this publicly - I believe that Obama is a Muslim. And I believe that he has always been such in his head and in his heart. And this, in my opinion, explains Obama’s hatred of Israel and the weakening of America over the past 8 years, ” - wrote John Walsh on his microblog Twitter
      Netanyahu made the harshest criticism of Obama, accusing the president of the United States of conspiracy in which he entered behind Israel and aimed at weakening his position.
      1. -8
        17 June 2020 12: 16
        Barack Obama just refused to implement the Israeli plan for the complete elimination of the Arab state of Palestine by transforming it into the Arab autonomy of the state of Israel (which Donald Trump is pushing now).

        The USSR / RF has consistently opposed and is opposing a violation of the decision of the UN General Assembly of 1947 on the creation in Palestine of two sovereign states (Jewish and Arab) and one international zone (the city of Jerusalem) under the leadership of the UN.

        By the way, all subsequent resolutions of the highest organ of the UN - the Security Council confirmed the validity of the decision of the General Assembly of 1947, i.e. The United States in that matter has always been in solidarity with the USSR / RF. And when America tried to evade, the veto of our country came into force.

        In vain Netanyahu's mongrel squeals at Russia - American Spring with the massive resettlement of American Jews to their "historical homeland" amid the collapse of the dollar close bully
        1. 0
          17 June 2020 12: 31
          Quote: Operator
          Barack Obama just refused to implement the Israeli plan for the complete elimination of the Arab state of Palestine by transforming it into the Arab autonomy of the state of Israel (which Donald Trump is pushing now).

          1. There is no state of Palestine and there is nothing to liquidate.
          2. There is Palestinian Authority with an administration within the borders of the State of Israel according to an agreement signed by the two parties on September 13, 1993 in Oslo.
          Quote: Operator
          In vain mongrel Netanyahu screeches to Russia - American spring is near

          No comments
      2. -2
        18 June 2020 11: 53
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        Netanyahu made the most severe criticism of Obama, accusing the US president of conspiracy in which he entered behind Israel and aimed at weakening his position.

        "Do not mold a hunchback" they say in this case - if Obama imposed economic sanctions on Israel, as was done by his administration after the annexation of Crimea, then I would believe that he really fought for the interests of the Palestinians. And so all his "collusion" is an empty phrase and profanation, because the Jewish capital of the United States continued to support Israel, and the supply of arms under the aid programs did not stop. We all know how to frown - however, when dear Leonid Ilyich frowned, Nixon quickly came to see Siberia and sign the Treaty.
        It is a pity that Putin is not that player - he does not have a real war behind him, so he drifts sometimes, and flirts with Israel and our Hasidim, which has never benefited Russia.
        1. 0
          18 June 2020 14: 44
          You probably think that the American presidents have all the power, like Putin? You are mistaken, there are many checks and balances on the decisions of the president.
          1. 0
            18 June 2020 18: 09
            Quote: borberd
            You probably think that the American presidents have all the power, like Putin?

            I know that Trump imposes sanctions on Russia and imposes trade duties on Chinese goods, i.e. in economic terms, it can affect any country in the world except Cuba and North Korea.
            Quote: borberd
            You are mistaken, there are many checks and balances on the decisions of the president.

            If desired, the American president acts as he is currently profitable. And there is no need for checks and balances - they are not used at all in relation to Israel, because whatever the Israelis do, the American authorities always treat them loyally.
            1. 0
              18 June 2020 21: 47
              Quote: ccsr

              I know that Trump imposes sanctions on Russia and imposes trade duties on Chinese goods, i.e. in economic terms, it can affect any country in the world except Cuba and North Korea.

              This is elemental, Watson! Because Russia ... let's just say, it is not popular with either the democrats or the reps. Russia does not have an influential community in the United States. The evangelists did not find a single mention of Russia in their religious books. There are several more reasons to cite, but I’m the duam you understand what I mean.
              Quote: ccsr
              If desired, the American president acts as he is currently profitable. And there is no need for checks and balances - they are not used at all in relation to Israel, because whatever the Israelis do, the American authorities always treat them loyally.

              But this is already completely untrue. There are plenty of examples of double play by the Americans. This is the refusal to create an air bridge in 1973, and the nurturing of the terrorist Arafat and the bringing of the entire PLO terrorist gang to Israel and negotiations with them under pressure from the Israelis. And much, much, much more. You should read about the topic before making such high-profile statements
              1. -1
                19 June 2020 12: 07
                Quote: borberd
                .And many many others . You should read about the topic before making such high-profile statements

                Leave your morals for the Israeli community of the forum - in Russia we have long known how the United States really relates to Israel, and if they really wanted to squeeze you, you would not have been enough for a couple of years, and many would have fled from the promised land including to Russia.
                Quote: borberd
                This is the refusal to create an air bridge in 1973, and the nurturing of the terrorist Arafat and the bringing of the entire PLO terrorist gang to Israel and negotiations with them under pressure on the Israelis

                The Israelis simply behave arrogantly, here they are periodically shown to them who is the boss in the house. So leave these examples to the inexperienced - Pollard’s business is for you to refresh your memory.
    3. -4
      17 June 2020 12: 30
      Barack Obama, a protege of the Jewish diaspora in the United States, would never have opposed Israel.
      There are no doubts in the first part, but in the second there are doubts.
      ----
      American Jewry does not really favor Israel, especially since recently the maintenance of Israel for the USA has become burdensome.

      Earlier (before the advent of Israel), Jewry significantly helped the United States embody its (USA) interests in other countries, but with the advent of Israel (especially after the resettlement of Jews from the USSR to Israel), these opportunities weakened sharply (except in social networks).
      It has become too burdensome to contain parasites during the economic crisis. It looks like it was at this moment that the hegemon decided to close the Israel project. (Kissinger)
      At this point, a crack appeared in the relationship between American Jews and Israeli Jews.
      And after the hegemonic positions in the BV were staggered (especially after the appearance of Russia there), interest in Israel from the part of the states completely disappeared.

      The geldings needed a war in the BV and Israel was supposed to start it, although a little later another project appeared - ISIS, which temporarily postponed the closure of the Israel project.
      After that, the igil ordered to live a long time, Israel was to become the arsonist of the BV again (this story is likely to have been reported by Israeli media - Obama’s idea and Netanyu’s call).
      Israeli Jews (represented by Netanyahu) are trying in every possible way to divert Israel from the role of the arsonist of BV.
      But the geldings are required, Netanyahu gets out, another corruption case is launched against him, after Israel bombed something in Syria, passions fade slightly, then again everything repeats.
      ---
      There is a version that Trump was helped by pro-Israeli Jews in order to ward off the threat from the disappearance of the Israel project, Trump's figure infuriated American Jewry, which is very likely to avenge Israel.
      Trump seems to lose the election and then Israel ends.
      In order to save Trump, Israel will make an ear stand.
      ---
      So the relationship between Israel and the United States is not as cloudless as it seems.
      1. 0
        17 June 2020 13: 21
        The background of the issue is no longer relevant - the mass exodus to Israel of the American, West European, Ukrainian and other Jewish diasporas (in the face of the collapse of the international financial system) is on the agenda.

        Finally, the centuries-old dream of the Zionists will come true - the concentration of all their relatives in one place laughing

        But at the turn of the 19-20 centuries, 50% of Jews were categorically against the Zionist idea of ​​restoring the state of Israel and moving to it from places of permanent residence. But bank loot drowned out the voice of reason.
        1. -2
          17 June 2020 15: 10
          Finally, the centuries-old dream of the Zionists will come true - the concentration of all their relatives in one place
          Yes, there was a dream, but when it came true, it became fear.
          Fear, because if someone wants to solve the Jewish question, then Israel will turn from a dream into a trap.
      2. +1
        17 June 2020 15: 31
        Quote: flicker
        especially since recently the maintenance of Israel for the United States has become burdensome.

        Quote: flicker
        Containing parasites during the economic crisis has become too

        Please provide the numbers that were before and what is now.
        Quote: flicker
        After that, the igil ordered to live long,

        Oh! Why are you still there?
        Quote: flicker
        Israel bombed something in Syria, passions fade slightly, then again everything repeats.

        And you turn to your government and ask: "What and why is Israel bombing?"
        Quote: flicker
        Trump seems to lose the election and then Israel ends.

        Read how many governments in the United States and the USSR (and this country) survived Israel.
        Hack and predictor Aviator
        TO START, YOU SHOULD GET, ALSO WANT A SECONDARY EDUCATION.
        1. -1
          17 June 2020 16: 54
          Well, first of all, thanks. I am satisfied with your reaction good
          TO START, YOU SHOULD GET, ALSO WANT A SECONDARY EDUCATION.

          Are two classes of a parish school not enough for you? request
          ---
          It was about quite obvious things, but for some reason they surprised you.
          ---
          A little about something else, but it will be informative for you.
          Recently I read how a secular Jew complained about Orthodox Jews (Hasidim). Like, he (a secular Jew) does not condemn their Hasidic way of life, but also does not welcome (treats them calmly), and they (Hasidim)
          extremely intolerant and pounced on him with or without reason.
          Further, in the comments, someone writes that if it weren’t for secular Jews (they serve in the army, but there are no Hasidim), then the Hasidim would have no Israel. Like, Hasidim are not needed.
          The number of Hasidim in Israel is growing, their lifestyle is becoming dominant.
          ---
          Now, please answer:
          * What is the use of Israel, and more specifically the Jewishness of the Hasidim?
          * And why is the influence of Hasidim growing?
          Well, the last question: does this (increased influence of the Hasidim) speak of the approaching end of Israel?

          I hope you have a higher education and it will help you find the answers. bully
          -----
          1. -3
            17 June 2020 17: 20
            Quote: flicker
            I hope you have a higher education and it will help you find the answers.

            especially since recently the maintenance of Israel for the United States has become burdensome.

            Quote: flicker
            Containing parasites during the economic crisis has become too

            Please provide the numbers that were before and what is now.
            Slipped?
            All your questions will be answered, only after I get the answer
            1. 0
              17 June 2020 17: 47
              Slipped
              All your questions will be answered, only after I get the answer
              Okay, then I will answer myself bully
              Today, the existence of the state of Israel lies on the shoulders of the army, i.e. secular Jews.

              In present-day Israel, there is no help from the Hasidim for Jewry.

              But this is in existing Israel. But in the period before Israel - Jewry as an ethnos was preserved precisely thanks to the Hasidim.
              For secular Jews would quickly assimilate and lose their ethnic identity. But thanks to the Hasidim, this did not happen.
              Those. Hasidic value exists in the absence of a Jewish state.

              Question: Why is the influence of Hasidim increasing in Israel?
              If the stars are lit, then someone needs it.

              If the Hasidim strengthen the influence, then this is for something and someone needs it.
              And as noted above, Hasidim are needed in the absence of a Jewish state.
              So Jewry is preparing for the loss of Israel.
              ---
              The greater the influence of the Hasidim, the closer the end of Israel.
              ---
              Now is the time to recall Kissanger’s statement about the end of Israel.
              Conclusion: belay
              1. +1
                18 June 2020 10: 47
                Henry Kissinger: In 10 years, Israel will cease to exist as a state
                It was said in 2012.
                And Henry Kissinger is an influential Jew and one cannot suspect him of anti-Semitism.
                Plus, the growing influence of Hasidim in Israel. What is also a fact, secular Jews complain that these parasites are too much allowed.
                So the Hasidim is needed for something. For what? Read above.
                By the way, Birobidzhan is not a bad city. bully
  21. -1
    17 June 2020 11: 02
    But they thanked us severely, set up our plane, our military perished. The question is, is it worth doing business with such political simplicity .... Unless of course it is true that the Israeli prime minister called and asked.
  22. +5
    17 June 2020 11: 48
    Who would save Russia ...
  23. +3
    17 June 2020 12: 01
    Well, which of the permanent? Didn't notice, as soon as the "Jewish" theme - the word against them, they will spit right away ...? Dear guys, from your "brother" in business - I learned a lot from them (the Smolensk diaspora is one of the most powerful, some kind of Talmud is not gave it away, I AM even intervened ...) My dear Sephardi-Ashkenazi ..., do not touch the Russians, please, .... I love you, but ... I am RUSSIAN !!
    1. -2
      17 June 2020 12: 03
      Anyone - just finish ... training and practice are present (send a picture of a tunic?)
      1. 0
        17 June 2020 12: 12
        You can't take this brother in any other way - just - in a tambourine ... With kicks ... Practice is ... Only force, rough, merciless ... Was Christ killed? There are no excuses ... And they think We are goy ... In business - "yu welkam", we will touch our brains ,,,,, you are strong in this, Even the Great Ralph Elliott confessed, but in life - I will ..., sorry. ..
        1. +3
          17 June 2020 13: 00
          Quote: aviator6768
          Well, which of the permanent? Didn't notice, as soon as the "Jewish" theme - the word against them, they will spit right away ...? Dear guys, from your "brother" in business - I learned a lot from them (the Smolensk diaspora is one of the most powerful, some kind of Talmud is not gave it away, I AM even intervened ...) My dear Sephardi-Ashkenazi ..., do not touch the Russians, please, .... I love you, but ... I am RUSSIAN !!

          Quote: aviator6768
          Anyone - just finish ... training and practice are present (send a picture of a tunic?)

          Quote: aviator6768
          You can't take this brother in any other way - just - in a tambourine ... With kicks ... Practice is ... Only force, rough, merciless ... Was Christ killed? There are no excuses ... And they think We are goy ... In business - "yu welkam", we will touch our brains ,,,,, you are strong in this, Even the Great Ralph Elliott confessed, but in life - I will ..., sorry. ..

          - Sima Moiseevna, you know, your spouse always shows off his love victories.
          “Oh, I beg you, let the disabled person speak for the war.”
          hi
          1. +2
            17 June 2020 14: 27
            Exactly! Not "for", not "against", just like that, I recognize the handwriting ... The Great Catherine drew the Pale of Settlement ... of your border ... All the way spanks in the wheels - out of 22 Central Committee members - 18 of yours ... Trotsky (Bronstein Leiba Davidovich)
            3. Sverdlov Yankel Movshovich
            4. Zinoviev (Radomyshelsky Ovsey Gersh Aronovich)
            5. Kamenev (Rosenfeld Leiba Baruchovich) ...
            Sorry for the rudeness and harshness ... Here they got it with the coronavirus ... They have a panic and helpless people right there, but masters ...
            1. +3
              17 June 2020 14: 30
              And here is another anecdote - "Semyon Markovich, do the athletes say they earn a lot of money ?, -Oh, Moishe, I beg you, if it were like that, two Jews would be spinning on each horizontal bar."
            2. 0
              17 June 2020 15: 27
              Quote: aviator6768
              Exactly! Not "for", not "against", just like that, I recognize the handwriting ... The Great Catherine drew the Pale of Settlement ... of your border ... All the way spanks in the wheels - out of 22 Central Committee members - 18 of yours ... Trotsky (Bronstein Leiba Davidovich)
              3. Sverdlov Yankel Movshovich
              4. Zinoviev (Radomyshelsky Ovsey Gersh Aronovich)
              5. Kamenev (Rosenfeld Leiba Baruchovich) ...
              Sorry for the rudeness and harshness ... Here they got it with the coronavirus ... They have a panic and helpless people right there, but masters ...


              Such a fake runs around the network:

              "Council of People's Commissars (Sovnarkom, SNK) 1918:

              Lenin - chairman, Chicherin - foreign affairs, Russian; Lunacharsky - enlightenment, Jew; Dzhugashvili (Stalin) - nationalities, Georgians; Protian - agriculture, Armenian; Larin (Lurie) - Economic Council, Jew; Schlichter - supply, Jew; Trotsky (Bronstein) - army and navy, Jew; Lander - state control, Jew; Kaufman - state property, Jew; V. Schmidt - work, Jew; Lilina (Knigissen) - public health, Jewish woman; Svalbard - cults, Jew; Zinoviev (Apfelbaum) - internal affairs, Jew; Anvelt - hygiene, Jew; Isidor Gukovsky - finance, Jew; Volodarsky - seal, Jew; Uritsky — elections, Jew; I. Steinberg - justice, Jew;
              Fengstein - refugees, Jew.
              In total, out of 20 People's Commissars - one Russian, one Georgian, one Armenian and 17 Jews. "

              Would you like to share on "Ours" and "Yours"? Talk in detail, or so, went out to paint and troll?

              Here it is, THE REAL COMPOSITION OF THE FIRST SOVNARKOM (18 people):

              1. Chairman - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin) (26.10.1917 - 21.01.1924) - Great Russian

              2. People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs:
              Alexey Ivanovich Rykov (26.10. - 4.11.1917) - Great Russian

              3. People's Commissariat of Agriculture
              Vladimir Pavlovich Milyutin (October 26.10 - November 4.11.1917, XNUMX) - Great Russian

              4. The People's Commissariat of Labor
              Alexander Gavrilovich Shlyapnikov (26.10.1917 - 8.10.1918) - Great Russian

              5. Committee on Naval Affairs (26.10. - 8.11.1917)
              Vladimir Alexandrovich Antonov-Ovseenko - maloros
              Pavel Efimovich Dybenko - Little Russian
              Nikolay Vasilievich Krylenko - Great Russian

              6. People's Commissariat of Trade and Industry
              Victor Pavlovich Nogin (26.10. - 4.11.1917) - Great Russian

              7. People's Commissar of Education
              Anatoly Vasilievich Lunacharsky (family member for the present father - Antonov) (26.10.1917/12.09.1929/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX) - Great Russian

              8. People's Commissariat of Finance
              Ivan Ivanovich Skvortsov-Stepanov (26.10.1917 - 20.01.1918) - Great Russian

              9. People's Commissariat of Foreign Affairs:
              Lev Davidovich Trotsky (Bronstein) (26.10.1917 - 8.04.1918) - Jew

              10. People's Commissariat of Justice
              Georgy Ippolitovich Lomov-Oppokov (26.10 - 9.12.1917) - Great Russian

              11. People's Commissariat of Food
              Ivan Adolfovich Teodorovich (26.10 - 4.11.1917) - Pole

              12. The People's Commissar of Posts and Telegraphs
              Nikolai Pavlovich Glebov (Avilov) (26.10 - 9.12.1917) - Great Russian

              13. People’s Commissariat for Nationalities (People’s Commissariat) of the RSFSR (1917-1923)
              Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili (Stalin) - Ossetian

              14. The People’s Commissariat for Railway Affairs (26.10.1917 - 24.02.1918)
              Mark Timofeevich Elizarov (8.11.1917/7.01.1918/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX) - Russian

              15. The People’s Commissariat of State Charity (8.11.1917/20.03.1918/XNUMX - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX)
              Alexandra Mikhailovna Kollontai (30.10.1917 - 17.03.1918) - Malorosska

              16. The Supreme Council of the National Economy (VSNH)
              Valerian Valerianovich Osinsky (Obolensky) (December 1.12.1917, 22.03.1918 - March XNUMX, XNUMX) - Great Russian

              Result: Russians - 15 (83%), 1 Jew, 1 Pole, 1 Ossetian.
              hi
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                19 June 2020 12: 23
                Quote: A. Privalov
                Result: Russians - 15 (83%), 1 Jew, 1 Pole, 1 Ossetian.

                This line-up was only a few days-weeks, so do not try to speculate at least on this, but rather take an interest in those who led the country later, at least in Civil, to understand who and what was going on. And with Kollontai, not everything is so simple:
                mother, Alexandra Massalin-Mravinskaya, was the daughter of a Finnish manufacturer who sold timber.
          2. 0
            17 June 2020 14: 49
            Quote: A. Privalov
            - Sima Moiseevna, you know, your spouse always shows off his love victories.

            Mar Privalov, my respect! hi
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                      2. +1
                        17 June 2020 17: 26
                        This article is better not to argue .. wink
  24. +4
    17 June 2020 13: 59
    Israeli media: Putin saved Tel Aviv from the loss of occupied territories

    Let them take it before it’s too late.
  25. +2
    17 June 2020 16: 08
    Provocative article without author and source. One grandmother in the market seemed ...
    1. +2
      17 June 2020 17: 21
      Quote: Whirlwind
      Provocative article without author and source.

      Posted by Ariel Kahana, source from Israel Hayom:
      https://www.israelhayom.com/2020/06/15/how-russia-saved-israel-from-a-palestinian-state-based-on-the-48-borders/
      Translation:
      https://inosmi.ru/politic/20200617/247613892.html
      Ask, and it shall be given you; seek and find; knock, and they will open it to you; for everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
      Gospel of Matthew (chap. 7, vv. 7-8)

      Yes
  26. 0
    17 June 2020 16: 40
    And in gratitude for this, Israel is constantly bombing Damascus and mocking the inaction of our air defense in Syria .. interesting events or, most likely, Putin’s setup ..
    1. -1
      17 June 2020 16: 55
      Quote: Duxan
      And in gratitude for this, Israel is constantly bombing Damascus and mocking the inaction of our air defense in Syria .. interesting events or, most likely, Putin’s setup ..

      Come on, no one bombarded Damascus. Near the airport, a dozen warehouses of Hezbollah and Iranian guards were blown upwind. Israel has directly told them more than once that it will not allow them to settle there and build their intrigues against it. They did not take good advice, so they themselves are evil Pinocchio.
  27. +1
    17 June 2020 17: 14
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Quote: askort154
    And what does Israel answer to Russia, in gratitude?
    Facts in the "studio"!

    Israel never votes at the UN for resolutions against the Russian Federation. In the General Assembly, all votes are equal and there is no veto. It is better to have a little friend than a big enemy. Does not join any sanctions. Unlike Russia, it constantly supports anti-Israeli resolutions. For the 73 years of Israel’s existence, this is the first time that Russia has responded positively to Israel’s request. But she didn’t even have to veto. Barak was afraid to lose his face and canceled the vote.

    Here both strategists clearly understand each other ... laughing Without diplomatic preambles. I think this is not very bad for the whole BV. It doesn’t matter what the cause is.
    1. +2
      18 June 2020 00: 45
      Well, they got it ... Simpler - no way?
  28. -2
    17 June 2020 17: 53
    "" Regulatory intervention once again leads to a fantastic situation: a fall in oil prices leads to an increase in gasoline prices, "Bazhenov said.
    This is what it is advisable to discuss, and the last donkey will understand what the restriction of fuel imports will lead to.
    And right before the amendments.
    1. -1
      17 June 2020 20: 13
      to import gasoline, a country selling oil is real madness
  29. 0
    17 June 2020 18: 27
    Is there any official confirmation of this or not? or maybe it's an Israeli informational provocation to sow enmity in the Syrian coalition between Russia and Iran
    1. 0
      17 June 2020 18: 58
      Quote: vavilon
      Is there any official confirmation of this or not? or maybe it's an Israeli informational provocation to sow enmity in the Syrian coalition between Russia and Iran

      You are quite insightful .. Now, oh wei, they’ll make you here .. Regards! hi
  30. -1
    17 June 2020 20: 12
    Is that Putin + or something?
  31. 0
    17 June 2020 23: 24
    Quote: Alexey from Perm
    to import gasoline, a country selling oil is real madness

    If it costs less abroad when the price of oil is low, why should it be banned from importing? The market itself can regulate imports. Ah, we have no market. If the cost of gasoline in a country that sells oil abroad in millions of tons is higher than there, then something is wrong with this country.
  32. 0
    18 June 2020 00: 28
    Well, the master needs to get better before "zeroing" ... Everything is bad - we are gasping in the priest, Sechin is barely ... By the way, Sechin is one of the few, we must give him his due, he keeps himself competently ... Even surprised ... KGB officer and so runs ... Sss .. who is the economy. Did he teach him how to read or write? Or just a smart guy? There are numbers - Bloomberg is delighted ... I won't quote ...
  33. -1
    18 June 2020 06: 31
    The Russian Foreign Ministry denied the publication "Israel HaYom" that Putin did not allow Obama to create a Palestinian state
    Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova denied the publication in the Israeli newspaper Israel HaYom that Vladimir Putin promised Netanyahu to block the resolution on the recognition of the State of Palestine within the 1948 borders.
    Zakharova called the statement by Israeli journalists "absolutely absurd."
    "Unfortunately, the practice of inaccurate information stuffing has long become a characteristic feature of our time. It is especially disappointing when officials become the object of this kind of disinformation, since they are guided by their statements, they determine foreign and domestic policy," the TASS Foreign Ministry spokeswoman quotes.
    1. +2
      18 June 2020 11: 09
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      Maria Zakharova denied publication in the Israeli newspaper "Israel HaYom"

      Excuse me, what did you expect?
      What will she say:
      "The USSR, and now the Russian Federation, for 70 years snorted Israel, sent the Arabs billions and billions of such expensive and necessary bucks, equipment, specialists and had only shame, losses and hemorrhoids from this, but now, for the sake of justice, we decided to fit in for our little Middle Eastern friends who never vote against us in the UN, who do not join any sanctions against the Russian Federation, celebrating, like us, Victory Day on May 9, with whom we have long had quite a decent and mutually beneficial trade. "
      ?
      Do not be naive. Moreover, the Russian Federation did not have to do anything. He promised, he did not promise, who knows? Obama himself refused to submit a resolution for discussion.
      1. -1
        18 June 2020 12: 25
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Excuse me, what did you expect?

        Quote: A. Privalov
        Do not be naive.

        If you noticed, I just gave an excerpt from the article and did not express my opinion, you did it instead of me.
        Thank you.
        1. 0
          18 June 2020 12: 27
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          you did it instead of me.
          Thank you.

          You're welcome! Not worth the thanks. hi
  34. 0
    18 June 2020 13: 00
    Not Tel Aviv, but Jerusalem, it is time to already know this. And there is no such concept - occupied territories, there is a concept - disputed territories.