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“It turns out they were protecting us from Russia”: in Germany they comment on Trump’s decision to partially withdraw troops

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Germany is actively commenting on Trump’s decision on the readiness to withdraw more than 12 US troops. The US president, in his own words, plans to leave no more than 25 thousand American soldiers and officers on the territory of Germany.


What caused such a decision of the owner of the White House?

According to Donald Trump, Germany buys gas from Russia, and the United States at the same time all these years "defended Germany from Russia."

Trump:

And where is the logic here? They do not pay NATO as much as they owe. Their debts are billions of dollars. Should we protect them?

To date, according to official figures, in Germany there are about 36-37 thousand US troops. The planned reduction is one third.

After that, information appeared about the readiness of the United States to again tighten sanctions on the Nord Stream-2 project.

In the German party “Linke”, commenting on Trump’s decision, they noted that it was time to stop “acting toothless” and answer Washington.
It is proposed to impose sanctions against US senators who are promoting a new sanctions package.

It's time to stop throwing cotton balls in the USA. We must act in the same way as they do.

Meanwhile, the German government notes that the words that "the US is protecting the country from Russia" are puzzling. It is noted that in Berlin they believed the following: the presence of American troops is "a manifestation of Euro-Atlantic integration."

Comments by German readers in a number of German media:

This is amazing. They themselves have pogroms, fires, and clashes with the police in the cities, and they tell us where and when we should buy gas.

But if Mr. Trump does not want to “protect us from the Russians,” then why not withdraw his entire contingent. From whom will those 25 thousand American military men whom he plans to leave us “protect”?

Wow! It turns out that all this time I was protected from Russia. Thank you for saying. I didn’t know.

It is worth noting that the American contingent in Germany, in fact, is occupying. It was through his presence that the United States dictated and continues to dictate to Berlin its political and economic agenda.
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  1. Borz
    Borz 17 June 2020 07: 01
    27
    Yankee, go home! Go clean up your house! If you can, of course ....
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 08: 08
      15
      Quote: Borz
      Go clean up your house!

      No no no! Command clean up in a stranger home, much more fun than cleaning up in his own и to myself. wassat
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 17 June 2020 21: 35
        +2
        they protected us from Russia

        And also from Iran’s missiles ...
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 17 June 2020 21: 44
          +1
          Quote: Shurik70
          And also from Iran’s missiles ...

          You shouldn’t forget!
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 17 June 2020 10: 08
      +6
      Quote: Borz
      Yankee, go home! Go clean up your house! If you can, of course ....

      Let them restore order in their heads and do not crawl with matches around the world
      1. Borz
        Borz 17 June 2020 10: 16
        +4
        Remember from childhood: "Matches are not toys for children!")) But seriously, there will be no order in their heads, generations have grown up convinced of the exclusivity of their state and the correctness of its policy of intervention. Well, the notorious tolerance for everyone and everything has done its dirty work. The question is: on whom does the American state rely now?
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 17 June 2020 10: 34
          +9
          Quote: Borz
          generations have grown up convinced of the exclusion ...

          You know, I would have formulated it differently: generations of kinship that do not remember, moreover, not only in the states, have come up with many problems. After all, the actions of the “collective West” in relation to the public are aimed at breaking ties: historical, family, religious, cultural ... any traditional ties. It’s easy to control the rams that are constantly in four inches of the screen: I’ve inserted a bright 'carrot', threw the program and here you are capitol hill republic in the center of america.
          The idea that America defends Europe was likewise imprinted on the brains of generations, I hope this paradigm is crumbling.
          1. cniza
            cniza 17 June 2020 12: 08
            +5
            Yes, it’s their purposeful work to decompose the moral and moral, bringing to the bestial level in meeting their needs, decomposition of the institution of the family and all normal values, in general, raising consumers and no more ...
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 17 June 2020 13: 53
              +5
              Victor hi I must admit they succeed, I really want the situation to change: it’s more pleasant and useful to talk with independent people
              1. cniza
                cniza 17 June 2020 14: 01
                +3
                They have already succeeded above all their expectations - normal families are getting smaller and smaller every year, LGBT parades, thoughts only about what to eat and what to buy, in the army buggers ...
                Tramp hi
                1. Pete mitchell
                  Pete mitchell 17 June 2020 14: 03
                  +2
                  Sadly, I agree. Especially about to eat and buy. Well, so that there was a connection and handheld shustrik ...
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 17 June 2020 15: 11
                    +2
                    Yes, without gadgets you can’t order anything, games, social services. networks and other opium ...
                    1. Pete mitchell
                      Pete mitchell 17 June 2020 15: 12
                      +3
                      If you are not on Facebook / Twitter / Instagrams - you are not at all ...
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 17 June 2020 15: 43
                        +3
                        And you need to spread what you ate, what you bought and where you are now ... otherwise you are an uneducated and wild person.
                      2. Pete mitchell
                        Pete mitchell 17 June 2020 16: 48
                        +4
                        Nekhai I’ll be wild, and my friends, comrades, I’m just as wild: we would all meet, barbecue and vodka to drink ...
                      3. cniza
                        cniza 17 June 2020 17: 17
                        +2
                        Yes, remember the old days. drinks and wish our children to be better than us.
  • x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 17 June 2020 10: 34
    11
    "Wow! It turns out that all this time I was protected from Russia. Thank you for saying. I did not know."
    Don't let this German get upset. He was not the only one who was "not in the know."
  • iouris
    iouris 17 June 2020 11: 15
    +3
    Quote: Borz
    Go clean up your house!

    Will leave. But first, they will set fire to all the houses in the district.
    1. cniza
      cniza 17 June 2020 12: 04
      +3
      Yes, that’s how it can end ...
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 17 June 2020 13: 32
    0
    Where only their "home" is not clear, where this contingent is shaved home of the Native Americans.
  • Doliva63
    Doliva63 17 June 2020 18: 16
    0
    Quote: Borz
    Yankee, go home! Go clean up your house! If you can, of course ....

    It is not very important for American imperialism that there, in America, it is more important for them to hold on to ..., well, you understand, Europe’s strongest economy. Therefore, the Yankees from Germany will never leave.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 June 2020 07: 02
    14
    Trump decided once again to blackmail Germany, now with the sole purpose of making it buy only American gas. And the Germans, which is typical, suddenly kicked up and began to send verbal responses to the main "hegemon" and even ironic. I liked this
    Wow! It turns out that all this time I was protected from Russia. Thank you for saying. I didn’t know.
    Events took a turn unexpected for the United States. Let's see how consistent the Germans are in their goals and whether they will really replace the "cotton balls" with something more weighty.
    1. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 17 June 2020 07: 07
      11
      And I liked it more.
      This is amazing. They themselves have pogroms, fires, and clashes with the police in the cities, and they tell us where and when we should buy gas.

      To the spite of the day. There was such a heading.
      1. cniza
        cniza 17 June 2020 12: 03
        +5
        It seems that the United States does not reach the fact that their house is on fire.
    2. lwxx
      lwxx 17 June 2020 07: 09
      10
      and whether the "cotton balls" will really be replaced by something more weighty.
      To use more weighty "balls", you need to have iron eggs. (Here is a pun laughing ) Unfortunately, Germany does not have them.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 17 June 2020 07: 45
        +5
        To use more weighty "balls", you need to have iron eggs. (Here's a pun laughing) Unfortunately Germany does not have them.
        And fundamentally - anatomically does not. One word - Merkel. What to take from her? Even plastic surgery can help half.
        1. kit88
          kit88 17 June 2020 11: 52
          10
          It’s not anatomical features. If Hillary was appointed instead of Trump, I don’t think it would be easier.
          And in general, the Germans were not given the floor.
          There is also an opinion voiced by Major General Gerd-Helmut Komoss, who headed the German military counterintelligence service. That the "allies" guaranteed themselves until 2099 full control over the German media, the use of its gold reserves, etc., by signing with the FRG on May 21, 1949 a certain secret Chancellor Act valid for 150 years.
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 17 June 2020 07: 10
    +8
    Meanwhile, the Russian Federation and the Republic of Iran adopted a document. Concerning all states. Including and first of all Germany-Declaration of the Russian Federation and the Islamic Republic of Iran on increasing the role of international law "A clear click on the nose of the US military diplomacy. Bravo!
    "7. The Russian Federation and the Islamic Republic of Iran consider one of the elements of the principle of non-interference in the internal or external affairs of states to be the sovereign and inalienable right of any state to determine its own political, economic, cultural and social system, to develop international relations and exercise permanent sovereignty over its natural resources. in accordance with the will of their people without external intervention, interference, subversion, coercion or threat in any form. "
    In the text "16.06.2017/32/XNUMX: XNUMX
    Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov's remarks and answers to media questions at a joint press conference following talks with Foreign Minister of the Islamic Republic of Iran M.J. Zarif, Moscow, June 16, 2020 "there is a link to the declaration
    https://www.mid.ru/ru/press_service/minister_speeches/-/asset_publisher/7OvQR5KJWVmR/content/id/4166214
    1. Civil
      Civil 17 June 2020 07: 22
      -8
      The Russian Federation and the Republic of Iran have adopted a document concerning all states. Including, first of all, Germany - the Declaration of the Russian Federation and the Islamic Republic of Iran on increasing the role of international law

      This is a breakthrough in diplomacy and a way out of international isolation, we must break all ties with the damned West. Iran, here it is the best ally in the world, friend, fraternal country. Persia and Russia together forever.
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 17 June 2020 08: 07
        0
        Kind Vadim. Was sarcasm at the expense of Persia higher? You don’t need enemies with such friends. They are now white and fluffy. The opposition in the DRA should not be forgotten.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 17 June 2020 07: 17
    0
    And so all over the world "protection from evil Russia"! And the fact that while the soldiers from the US rob and rape the aborigines, this is "the cost of protection from insidious Russia"! Yes, and how many of those victims of "sexual attacks" of US warriors are there — not half of the same population of the same Germany lol
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 17 June 2020 07: 49
      +3
      Yes, and how many of those victims of "sexual attacks" of US warriors are there — not half of the same population of Germany lol
      Frau is hard to rape. Because frau always agrees. And if you always agree, then what kind of rape is it? This is for love ...
  • venik
    venik 17 June 2020 07: 18
    0
    "....In the German party “Linke”, commenting on Trump’s decision, they noted that it was time to stop “acting toothless” and answer Washington.
    It is proposed to impose sanctions against US senators who are promoting a new sanctions package.
    ..... "
    =======
    Bah! Surely they will finally move forward ??? It would be great if! Then the rest of the "hegemonu" would start making faces after them ..... That would be fun! lol
    That's just unlikely to happen .... request
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 17 June 2020 07: 23
    +2
    But Trump is right !!! Since 1945, from the moment when the Soviet army (we were then called in the West and continue to be called now - Russians) burst into the den of fascism - Germany, the United States began to defend the Germans. To whom did the crowds of ideological sadists from the SS and other Hitlerite warriors who burned villages in the USSR, together with residents, manufacturers and good-quality burghers, who were forcibly taken out of the USSR children and women for slaves, rushed to surrender? ?? It's over to the West under the wing of the United States and Great Britain, which have saved hundreds of thousands of war criminals. While the generation of World War II was alive, it remembered its crimes on the territory of the USSR and was afraid of the punishment from which they were protected by "American democracy" and paid the United States for this protection. Now the ungrateful descendants of Nazi Germany have ceased to be afraid and do not want to pay "gratitude" to the Americans. If I were Trump, I would create some kind of "popular seething" under the slogan - "We remember, we are afraid." Let the Germans not forget - they REMEMBER about the crimes of their ancestors, and are AFRAID that if anyone else has a bad idea to come to Russia with a weapon, it is unlikely that they will be "protected by the USA" again ...
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 17 June 2020 07: 54
      +4
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      Since 1945, from the moment when the Soviet army (we were then called and continue to be called Russians in the West now) broke into the den of fascism - Germany, US began to protect the Germans. To whom did they rush to hand over the crowds of ideological sadists from the SS and other Nazi warriors who burned villages in the USSR together with residents, manufacturers and good burghers holding children and women forcibly removed from the USSR for slaves ?? ?? Ended to the West under the wing of the United States and Great Britain, which saved hundreds of thousands of war criminals.


      Please relieve me of suspicions about the "lack of historical memory"And"whitewashing crimes of Nazi Nazism"but contradicts you, and proves that you are wrong - calling all Germans war criminals, I.V. Stalin :

      "Hitlers come and go, but the German people remain. We will have to coexist with the German people. It would be completely wrong to assume that every German democrat or communist is necessarily a Nazi in disguise. The Soviet authorities will have to cooperate with some Germans."
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 17 June 2020 08: 15
        +2
        And I didn’t name all Germans ... But the fact that 99% of Germans approved the German invasion of the USSR in June 1941 is a fact. The fact that millions of Soviet people became slaves of the Germans is also a fact. In December 1939, the number of SS was 243,6 thousand people. By March 1945, the strength of the SS troops was 830 thousand people. And there were the Gestapo, and the SD, and members of the Nazi party in which there was a children's and youth wing. But there were other Germans - who were originally against Hitler, but there were very few ....
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 17 June 2020 08: 20
          +1
          Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
          And I didn’t call all Germans ...


          Yes ? Read it again you written:

          Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
          Since 1945, from the moment when the Soviet army (we were then called and continue to be called Russians in the West now) broke into the den of fascism - Germany, US began to protect the Germans.


          Where is the clarification that "not all Germans"What about Hitler's underdogs? Do you see him?

          And in the context of what is written, it must be ...
          1. Vitaly Tsymbal
            Vitaly Tsymbal 17 June 2020 09: 08
            +1
            Don't find fault with words. I exchange opinions, in a short time, I have other things to do, and you offer me a scientific discussion ... But especially for you, dear, I brought the number of Germans in the SS, if you cannot evaluate the picture as a whole, then add to the SS members of their families and relatives ... There were more opponents of Hitler only when it became clear that he had lost ... but after the Western allies entered the war, the "simple victims of Nazism" strenuously resisted the SA and joyfully raised their hands in front of the "Western liberators" .. .. The fear of the Germans for what they had done in the USSR really lived in them for a long time. In 1988, while serving in the GSVG, an old German woman from the Federal Republic of Germany gave me a lift in her car, so she stopped only because I was in uniform ... She herself admitted this to me, believe me, she stopped not because of respect for the uniform of the Soviet captain) ))
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 17 June 2020 09: 14
              +1
              Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
              Do not find fault with the words. I exchange opinions, briefly, I have other things to do, and you offer me a scientific discussion ....


              Of course ... It's so stressful to call the fascists - fascists, and the Germans - Germans, having spent only one phrase in order to "delimit" the concepts ...

              Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
              But especially for you, dear


              There you did not bother to give a clear definition, but here, for the sake of my modest person, you tried to paint in detail and in "colors", practically within the framework "scientific discussion"...
              1. Vitaly Tsymbal
                Vitaly Tsymbal 17 June 2020 09: 39
                -1
                You have nothing else to do? You don't even have a name .... The absence of a NAME is an indicator of a hidden provocateur who is afraid of responsibility. You probably fancy yourself a great information analyst?))) I can reassure you that if you were my students when I taught the subject "Social Forecasting" at the university, which included the topic: "Media Analysis", even with all my goodwill, would not have received more than three points. Sorry for being blunt. This is not an insult (or now you will complain that you are insulted and I will be given another warning), this is my reaction to your comments ... So learn to understand with whom you are communicating ... and do not equate a pimply troll with a person who has certain knowledge and life experience !!!! You cease to be interesting to me, although most of your (other) comments have interesting questions ...
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 17 June 2020 09: 53
                  +3
                  Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
                  You don’t even have a name indicated ....


                  What's in a name?
                  It will die like a sad noise
                  Waves splashed into distant shore,
                  Like the sound of a deaf night in the forest.

                  It is on a memorandum
                  Leave a dead mark like
                  Gravestone Inscription Pattern
                  In an incomprehensible language.

                  What is in it? Forgotten long ago
                  In the waves of new and rebellious,
                  Your soul will not give it
                  Memories of pure, tender.

                  But on the day of sorrow, in silence,
                  Speak it yearning;
                  Say: there is a memory about me
                  There is a heart in the world where I live. (A.S. Pushkin)

                  Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
                  learn to understand with whom you are communicating ... and do not align the pimple troll with a person who has certain knowledge and life experience !!!!


                  I admit, you trampled me to dust, your life experience ...

                  But on this account there is a well-aimed statement by Samuel Langhorn Clemens, which I will not give here, so as not to conflict with the rules of the site.
                  1. Vitaly Tsymbal
                    Vitaly Tsymbal 17 June 2020 10: 02
                    +2
                    I also have a saying about lovers of other people's quotes))) ... but the rules are the rules !!!
                    Thank you for not taking offense at least. I understand that there is such a profession ... no, it is not a profession to defend the Motherland (even in the virtual space), but a profession to warm up the topic !!! Good luck. By the way, this is already a serious, necessary and useful thing, makes the reader think, and not "blurt out" emotions.
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 17 June 2020 10: 07
                      0
                      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
                      Good luck. By the way, this is already a serious, necessary and useful thing, makes the reader think, and not "blurt out" emotions.

                      Readermay make you think, but the writer, "blurted out with words" in his commentary, did not work out to make you think about the meaning of what he wrote ...
                      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
                        Vitaly Tsymbal 17 June 2020 10: 53
                        +2
                        Writers are those who write articles, and then there is the reader. I am a reader - and I don’t get a penny for my writing, therefore, unlike some, I have the right to make mistakes))) I express my opinion in the comments in between other things that are more important to me, sometimes I express my attitude sometimes, I can’t hold back, and give an assessment ... but if it were not for such "bloopers" like me, the site turned into a boring publication for a narrow group of people - such a get-together between the site's IT specialists and the site's journalists))) .... So I don't see anything wrong with blunders !! ! Maybe this morning I didn’t stand my feet up and blurt out? I’ll go to lie down for a while and get up on my other leg and immediately become an exemplary "writer" laughing Oh, what would we do without you, so right ???
            2. tikhonov66
              tikhonov66 17 June 2020 13: 37
              0
              "... Do not find fault with words.
              ..."
              - OPANKA !!!
              and WHAT else can you "find fault"
              - Nobody seems to suffer from telepathy here ...
              8-))
              "... I exchange opinions, shortly,
              ..."
              -?!
              "... I have other things to do,
              ..."
              - Well, do not get distracted.
              Ciao.
      2. demo
        demo 17 June 2020 08: 20
        +3
        I'm afraid, but I want to object to Comrade Stalin.
        It is erroneous to believe that the people who gave the national registration to one or another hateful stream of thought are not responsible for what happened.
        This statement is only a way to relieve tension in society, for a possible punishment for the crimes committed by representatives of the people.
        Stalin thus reassured those who understood the likelihood of repression and against them. Regardless of whether they personally fought with weapons in their hands or not, whether they guarded Auschwitz and shot prisoners, or brought fresh greens and vegetables to the camp.
        And in the USSR, the issue of punishing Bandera, Vlasov, and voluntary assistants of the invaders was on the agenda.
        But how could Bandera underground or forest brothers exist for a long time without the active help of the local population?
        You do not.
        Here Stalin reassured.
        There will be nothing for your help.
        This is where the time bomb was laid.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 17 June 2020 08: 24
          +1
          Quote: demo
          Stalin thus reassured those who understood the likelihood of repression and against them.


          Again, Comrade Stalin will object to you with his article in Krasnaya Zvezda on February 9, 1945 (this is how Stalin issued a directive to the Army and reassured the Germans):

          OKO - FOR OKO, TOOTH - FOR TOOTH, - our grandfathers said. It is impossible to imagine a case in such a way that if, say, fascist two-legged animals allowed themselves to publicly rape women or were engaged in looting, then we must do the same to them in revenge. This has never happened and never can be. Our fighter will never allow anything like that, although he will not be guided here by pity, but only by self-esteem ...
          1. demo
            demo 17 June 2020 08: 46
            +3
            Yes, this is not about that.
            This is what it is about.
            If Banderaites until 1956 continued to provide armed resistance to the authorities, this only speaks about one thing - they had stable and powerful support among the local population.
            Food, medicine, weapons, and most importantly - information.
            Who provided all this?
            The locals.
            Have they been severely and inevitably punished?
            I doubt it.
            And if someone was convicted somewhere, then in my opinion the number of assistants is not comparable with the number of those punished.
            I don’t remember exactly, whether Kuchma, or Kravchuk proudly talked about how Bandera fat and carry a vodka.
            And then we wonder how the idea arose in the minds of the "brothers", after so many years of living together both in the Republic of Ingushetia and in the USSR, that Russians are quilted jackets, collorads, and a "moskolyak for a gilyak".
            This half-hearted work of Stalin and his law enforcement bodies today led to such deplorable consequences.

            It is not necessary to say that for an eye it is necessary to take away an eye.
            It is worth saying that any business should be brought to an end.
            Without the ability to reverse the story.
            Let me give you an example of the fact that I myself really do not like it so much.
            How did the Americans prevent the opportunity to even start thinking that indigenous people could make any claims to the conquerors?
            Destroyers under the root.
            And it's the end.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 17 June 2020 08: 58
              +4
              Quote: demo
              If Banderaites until 1956 continued to provide armed resistance to the authorities, this only speaks about one thing - they had stable and powerful support among the local population.


              The periodically emerging "excesses" in the Caucasus decades after the "2nd Chechen war" speak of the same thing.

              Quote: demo
              Food, medicine, weapons, and most importantly - information.
              Who provided all this?
              The locals.
              Have they been severely and inevitably punished?
              I doubt it.


              I doubt that even now in the Caucasus it will be possible to identify all accomplices with a general paralysis of the Kremlin’s power.

              Quote: demo
              I don’t remember exactly, whether Kuchma, or Kravchuk proudly talked about how Bandera fat and carry a vodka.
              And then we wonder how the idea arose in the minds of the "brothers", after so many years of living together both in the Republic of Ingushetia and in the USSR, that Russians are quilted jackets, collorads, and a "moskolyak for a gilyak".
              This half-hearted work of Stalin and his law enforcement bodies today led to such deplorable consequences.


              A few more points with the interest of the Russian government itself, and the same thing will happen in your national republics ...

              Without Stalinbut with Putin and effective managers ...
              1. demo
                demo 17 June 2020 11: 41
                +2
                One thing must be recognized as obvious - Stalin, as a historical figure, was at the right time and in the right place.
                The country, one might say, was lucky.
                The excesses, excesses, shortcomings and everything that accompanies the formation of the person who came to power in a non-airless space is more than compensated by the fact that the person was able to 100% realize its full potential.
                Churchill's words are the best proof and appreciation.
                But today a figure of a different scale and other qualities is required.
                Putin is not a figure, this is a miserable shadow of what we need.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 17 June 2020 13: 28
                  +3
                  Quote: demo
                  One thing must be recognized as obvious - Stalin, as a historical figure, was at the right time and in the right place.


                  Quote: demo
                  Putin is not a figure, this is a miserable shadow of what we need.


                  It must also be recognized that Putin is a historical figure of a certain period, which is already ending for Russia, and that the need for other, a tougher and more powerful figure of the leader of a nation than a GDP mired in liberalism.
          2. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 17 June 2020 22: 44
            0
            Insurgent, That would be the Germans - TROTSKISTS - all without exception went through the camps (who were not shot). If there were Germans - Tatars (Crimean) - they would go for permanent residence to "hell on little kulichki" (Kyzylkum for example). With "counter" Comrade. JV Stalin did not stand on ceremony.
        2. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 17 June 2020 13: 48
          0
          "... I'm afraid, but I want to object to Comrade Stalin.
          ..."
          - You're lying. Do not be afraid.
          And in vain.

          "... It is a mistake to think that the people who gave their national registration to this or that misanthropic trend of thought are not responsible for what happened.
          ..."
          - about such a Russian as Chitatilo - Heard ?!
          And now - we will "attract" YOU
          - for HIS, as you have deigned to say "misanthropic current of thought" ...
          What, ALREADY AFRAID? ...
          And rightly so.

          - Well, ddddumat, the same dada and not mindlessly "trample claudia."
          Or, personally, you are "NOT A PEOPLE" ?!
          Well, like - attract anyone, but NOT ME, if I am "in the house" ...
          8-))
          1. demo
            demo 17 June 2020 16: 25
            0
            First of all, I recommend contacting "you".
            I did not pass pigs with you?
            So.
            If you want to object, then first decide in which part and with what conclusions.
            How can one compare Chikatilo (and not Chitatilo) and Adolf Schilkgrubber?
            The first is simply a maniac who killed personally at the behest of his sick soul.
            But the second is more a villain.
            For at the behest of his sick soul, millions became killers.
            And they killed tens of millions.

            When you try to oppose something in a conversation, correlate your capabilities with those of your opponent.
    2. bk0010
      bk0010 17 June 2020 09: 12
      +3
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      The United States began to protect the Germans.
      In fact, they rotted about a million Germans in concentration camps and specifically robbed the remnants of the country.
      1. cniza
        cniza 17 June 2020 12: 00
        +2
        And in fact, they do not allow the normal armed forces of Germany to be restored ...
      2. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 17 June 2020 13: 54
        +1
        Quote: bk0010
        The United States began to protect the Germans.
        In fact, they rotted about a million Germans in concentration camps and specifically robbed the remnants of the country.

        - It is strange that nobody is interested in the OBVIOUS QUESTION:
        After all, BEFORE WAR, AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER WAR
        in all European countries there were very numerous
        COMMUNIST PARTIES ...
        - but in the "western zone of occupation" - all these PEOPLE (hundreds of thousands)
        very quickly "disappeared somewhere".

        - And after all, nobody cares - WHERE ...
        Miracles, and more!
  • Courier
    Courier 17 June 2020 07: 32
    -3
    Germany does not remember anything at all.
  • askort154
    askort154 17 June 2020 07: 32
    +1
    In the German party Linke, commenting on Trump’s decision, they noted that it was time to stop “acting toothless” and answer Washington

    Merkel "kissed" with Obama (Democrats), and quarreled with Trump, has now quieted down in anticipation of the US elections.
    Hopes for the victory of the Democrats. If Trump wins, the crack between Germany and the US will widen.
    1. cniza
      cniza 17 June 2020 11: 58
      +1
      She is tired and wants to retire ...
  • Courier
    Courier 17 June 2020 07: 35
    -5
    It is worth noting that the American contingent in Germany, in fact, is occupying. It was through his presence that the United States dictated and continues to dictate to Berlin its political and economic agenda.


    The Americans dictate, they dictate, but SP 1 was built, just like SP 2 was built. And back in the 80s, Germany bought gas from the USSR.
    Everything dictates right. 35 thousand, all over Germany.
  • Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 17 June 2020 07: 40
    +5
    But isn’t it enough to protect against Russia the most powerful army in Europe? Why so many understudies?
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 17 June 2020 08: 10
      +1
      Quote: Lena Petrova
      But isn’t the Europe’s most powerful army defensive against Russia?

      What are you talking about? Which is jumping. or whipping? wassat
      1. cniza
        cniza 17 June 2020 11: 58
        +2
        Probably both, because without them Europe is "cranky" ...
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 17 June 2020 08: 46
      +1
      Quote: Lena Petrova
      But isn’t it enough to protect against Russia the most powerful army in Europe? Why so many understudies?

      The US and NATO armies, these are "second echelon troops" dancing at the Armed Forces of Ukraine wassat yes
  • abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 17 June 2020 07: 44
    +5
    To date, according to official figures, in Germany there are about 36-37 thousand US troops. The planned reduction is one third.
    The normal size of the American contingent in Germany, and in any other country, is 1-2 platoons to protect the embassy. This is the maximum. All the rest are superfluous.
    1. cniza
      cniza 17 June 2020 11: 56
      +1
      It is you who tell the USA and hear their understanding that this is not enough for the occupation ...
  • rocket757
    rocket757 17 June 2020 07: 48
    +2
    And where is the logic here? They do not pay NATO as much as they owe. Their debts are billions of dollars. Should we protect them?

    That's right, Donald drank them, drank .... they will become even lower / thinner!
    1. cniza
      cniza 17 June 2020 11: 55
      +2
      This is his favorite pastime, here he dock ... Greetings! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 June 2020 12: 04
        +1
        Welcome soldier
        He is a businessman, at the same time the president of one of the largest financial corporations in the world .... he has something to take care of! in such cases, everyone else is just a customer with whom you can tear everything you can and how much you can!
        1. cniza
          cniza 17 June 2020 12: 10
          +2
          Yes, and in the methods he is not shy, he will milk to the last.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 17 June 2020 12: 27
            +1
            It is ridiculous to look at those who are now groaning and gasping, as if still surprised, because of what!
            1. cniza
              cniza 17 June 2020 12: 28
              +2
              The United States will still show itself in all its glory, Trump will be the President or someone else, but surprises await the whole world.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 17 June 2020 12: 34
                +1
                Quote: cniza
                surprises await the whole world.

                it may very well be. we don’t have to expect anything good anyway. their over-system will not leave us alone NEVER.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 17 June 2020 12: 44
                  +2
                  And not only us, but anyone who will prevent the United States from selling their "goods" and trying to compete with them.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 17 June 2020 12: 53
                    +1
                    First of all, PROFIT ... normal business approach! About the fact that everything human is alien to them, it was high time for many to think!
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 17 June 2020 13: 04
                      +2
                      No, the United States is not only interested in profit, but also who wants to receive it, without their consent.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 17 June 2020 13: 44
                        +1
                        This is "good" logic ... everything is mine! And try to tell them something in return.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 17 June 2020 13: 57
                        +2
                        For them, this is the only way, and the rest are in caves.
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 17 June 2020 14: 01
                        +1
                        Okay ... they themselves got into it.
  • Shadow041
    Shadow041 17 June 2020 07: 58
    +3
    You would think that Russia is only doing what it constantly attacks Germany, like a Colorado potato beetle ... I don’t remember a single case when Russia attacked Germany, it was exactly the opposite, the Germans several times attacked Russia.
  • Hagen
    Hagen 17 June 2020 07: 59
    +2
    But if Mr. Trump does not want to “protect us from the Russians,” then why not withdraw his entire contingent. From whom will those 25 thousand American military men whom he plans to leave us “protect”?

    What a naive question ?! Throughout its history, NATO and, above all, US troops are in Europe solely to prevent left-wing politicians from taking control of the countries under supervision. The rest of the demagogy about protecting someone from someone is just a smoke of covering the main task and a way to provide orders for the US military-industrial complex.
    1. cniza
      cniza 17 June 2020 11: 54
      +2
      If even simpler, then to manage your vassals ...
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 17 June 2020 08: 08
    +1
    Trump burned, but what about: NATO is not against Russia?
    1. cniza
      cniza 17 June 2020 11: 53
      +1
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      Trump burned, but what about: NATO is not against Russia?


      So they no longer hide this ...
      1. Viktor Sergeev
        Viktor Sergeev 17 June 2020 17: 53
        -1
        Well, I don’t know, their talking heads keep saying the same thing all the time: NATO is not against Russia. They have a bad map type and they are fighting with Iran and North Korea on the borders with Russia.
        1. cniza
          cniza 17 June 2020 18: 10
          0
          And you read their doctrine there, the first enemy is Russia, then China, and so on ...
  • Oleg1263
    Oleg1263 17 June 2020 08: 23
    0
    What caused such a decision of the owner of the White House?

    I don’t know why, but it read like:
    "What caused such a decision of the White master" .....
  • Pavel73
    Pavel73 17 June 2020 08: 29
    +1
    Unfortunately, half of Germany’s gold reserves are still in the United States. So far, the Americans are holding the Germans tight.
    1. cniza
      cniza 17 June 2020 11: 52
      +2
      Even without this, Germany is not yet sovereign.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 17 June 2020 08: 53
    +3
    How many wonderful discoveries the States are preparing for you (Europeans)! laughing
    1. cniza
      cniza 17 June 2020 11: 51
      +3
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      How many wonderful discoveries the States are preparing for you (Europeans)! laughing


      Oh yes, when the real squeezing out of the USA from Europe begins, and sooner or later it starts, then they will appear in all their "glory".
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav 17 June 2020 09: 17
    +1
    But if Mr. Trump does not want to “protect us from the Russians,” then why not withdraw his entire contingent.

    An indicative moment, this comment "from the people". Even there they understand that the decision on the presence of the US fighter in Germany is made not by his own chancellor, but by a foreign president.
    1. cniza
      cniza 17 June 2020 11: 50
      +1
      And this is a shame for a country like Germany, it's time to fix it.
  • Kito
    Kito 17 June 2020 09: 21
    +1
    Well, the American contingent in Germany is not a defender, but a full-fledged occupation corps. If they were defenders, they would have agreed to "Stalin's Note" back in 1952.
    The “Stalin Note” also known as the “March Note” or “Peace Note”, issued on March 10, 1952, put forward by the USSR, which suggested that all occupying powers (Great Britain, France, the USA, the USSR) immediately and with the participation of the German government begin the development of a peaceful agreement with Germany, the draft of which was attached. The USSR was ready to agree to the unification of the country, to allow the existence of the German army, military industry and the free activity of democratic parties and organizations, but on condition that Germany did not participate in military blocs.

    This led to the “Battle of the Notes” between the Western powers and the Union, as a result of which the West actually rejected the Soviet proposal, insisting that a united Germany should be free to join NATO.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 17 June 2020 11: 23
    0
    Russia has long ago GONE from Germany and SAMA.

    Could not leave. Why would she come back? What should she do with Germany?

    What kind of "protection"? From whom?
  • cniza
    cniza 17 June 2020 11: 48
    +1
    Meanwhile, the German government notes that the words that "the US is protecting the country from Russia" are puzzling. It is noted that in Berlin they believed the following: the presence of American troops is "a manifestation of Euro-Atlantic integration."


    But in reality this is occupation, and even if Trump reduces the contingent, this does not mean that there will be no occupation.
  • tikhonov66
    tikhonov66 17 June 2020 13: 56
    0
    Quote: abrakadabre
    The normal size of the American contingent in Germany, and in any other country, is 1-2 platoons to protect the embassy. This is the maximum. All the rest are superfluous

    - the rest are not superfluous.
    The rest are OCCUPIERS
  • tikhonov66
    tikhonov66 17 June 2020 13: 58
    0
    Quote: Rostislav
    Even there they understand that the decision on the presence in Germany of a US soldier is not made by his chancellor, but by a foreign president.

    - !!!!!
  • 123456789
    123456789 17 June 2020 16: 55
    0
    And where is the logic here? They do not pay NATO as much as they owe. Their debts are billions of dollars. Should we protect them?


    Tramp
    The logic is to stop paying NATO altogether and thereby achieve full independence and sovereignty.
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 17 June 2020 20: 54
    0
    Oh well, the clinic. I would like to know what kind of battles the American contingent was in Germany with Russian troops)))
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  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 18 June 2020 05: 09
    0
    In NATO there is a small, but positive effect - a civilized geyropa, not "squabble" at least among themselves. Otherwise, whoever is most feared is the enemy.
  • Miron
    Miron 18 June 2020 05: 58
    0
    The Yankee cowboy unobtrusively reminds a German prostitute that she owes him custody.
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 18 June 2020 11: 39
      0
      Did the US protect the Germans from Russia? And protected in the bite of the fact that they are protected ??? For example, once Ancient Rome defended enslaved the whole Mediterranean ... And the Germans asked them about this ??? And the defenders of the Germans are not their new slave owners ???

      "The strong is always to blame for the powerless:
      We hear a thousand examples of this in history "Krylov