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When shame does not cover the shame

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To begin with, a small lyrical appeal to readers.


It is very pleasant that you, dear ones, react to articles in this way. Highly. Especially those who speak in the style of "If ***** screams - the right way we go!" Yes, you are going the right way, if you like. But we’ll talk about the results after a while, the comments are in the daddy, so in a year or two there will be very interesting such material on them. Analytical.

We're not going anywhere, right?

And the second one. It is very pleasing that every second reader of ours, who so vehemently supports the show with voting, from such developed countries as Moldova, Ukraine, Lithuania, Estonia, Armenia. It is very nice to see (yes, we removed the flags, but this is not an obstacle) that in countries with a victorious constitutional system and a developed economy, our aspirations are so highly valued. It is even encouraging.

By the way, the silence of our Belarusian and Israeli readers is surprising. Truth.

Now let's go over the issues.

Yes, the streets of the cities have changed somewhat due to the pandemic. Advertising on billboards has almost disappeared, which, in general, is logical. What kind of advertising can be in conditions when everything is closed?

But the posters from the Central Election Commission filled the space, explaining how important it is for us to come to the polling stations on July 1. A very correct application of budget money, since every citizen should at least once a day see the call. And imbued with consciousness.

Calls, frankly, bring nothing new. All the same principle, "Vote or lose."

Either the Constitution, or the Russian language will be banned, they will throw out all domestic animals onto the street, they will burn the books of Pushkin, Gogol, Chekhov ...

Who will do all this is not entirely clear, apparently, all the same Dark Lord, buggers and liberals.

That's about the liberals I want to talk about.

So, here is the call to protect the memory of the ancestors.

In general, of course, is another masterpiece from brainless managers acting on someone’s orders. It is completely incomprehensible, and here the girl and the memory of the ancestors. Either the girl will not be allowed to remember her ancestors, or to lay flowers somewhere. Or to put on a uniform from times of the Great Patriotic War?

It is completely incomprehensible.

Well, if anyone is guilty of distortion historical the truth, the prevention of which President Putin spoke so well, is ... the Ministry of Culture, which deals only with this.

Under the heading “Military film fan”, we discussed almost all the slag that has been thrown onto the screens lately. List ... And what is the list? It’s easier to say that for 10 years there has been ONE film, which can be called a film. "28 Panfilov Heroes." Everything else - low-quality and unscrupulous "unsubstantiated" on a military theme.

For example, "To Paris." Filmets, where the real person who fought and won was shown as the person who received the medal for a bribe. And I did not pull it at all, it was in the film. The real person was slandered, just like that. In the name of the script and earnings.

"T-34", "Tanks”,“ Invincible ”,“ Hitler Kaput ”,“ Burnt by the Sun ”,“ Stalingrad ”,“ Shtrafbat ”,“ Bastards ”- you can continue to infinity. A series of mediocre and deceitful films is planned for infinity. And, apparently, it will come nearer to the figure of 1418, so that there is “creation” for every day.

Yes, isn't Putin talking about this? Is this not a distortion of history?

Distortion. Unless the so-called double standards policy blooms in terry colors. That is, if the Ukrainians say that the Ukrainians liberated Auschwitz, since the front was Ukrainian, this, of course, is a violation and distortion. And if a Russian citizen shoots here, a drunk general sends a crowd into the attack (to call this unit the language doesn’t turn), armed with shovel cuttings ...

No, this is not a distortion. This is reality. This is so gentlemen liberals deign to show the truth.

Now think about it. There is a mediocre screenwriter and a mediocre director. Which took and "pile" something terrible once again. But before starting the entire machine to shoot a film, the scriptwriter and director are required to present their "masterpiece" to various authorities.

And what about the authorities? But nothing. Judging by what appears on the screens, exactly the same gentlemen are sitting in the courts.

So, what kind of chain are we drawing?

Budget. It is formed by the Russian government, say the State Duma, the Federation Council and the president. And then the distribution begins according to the approved articles on the performers. That is, the ministries.

In our case, the Ministry of Culture. In which there is a cinematography department, which consists of three departments that are engaged in government support for the production, promotion and distribution of national films. All gaming, non-gaming, animated.

Here, it turns out, the nest. Where they quietly and do what we see on the screens.

But I'm sorry, but where do these people get into the nest? Are they coming from the street? Or send from the State Department? Well, yes, they drop them by parachute ...

No, the prime minister appoints the minister and the president approves. The Minister appoints the heads of departments and further down the career ladder.

That is kind of like their own. No, you can, of course, push the enemy into the office, but not the entire ministry, right?

And screenwriters bring scripts, they are (possibly) read, even (probably) discussed. People appointed by the person appointed by the president and prime minister. But in the end, the screen is full of garbage.

And who is to blame? Enemies? State Department? The Dark Lord Bulk?

Well, the funny thing: so from whom should the memory of the ancestors be protected? Apparently, just from the above company. From scriptwriters and directors to the Minister of Culture.

It’s just a little incomprehensible why, in order to rake our completely cultureless ministry of culture, we need to prescribe the concern for memory in the Constitution.

Doesn't work without it?

And the second conclusion is outlined. It turns out that if something is not prescribed in the Constitution, is that all? Nobody is going to work according to federal laws? The reason for idleness, so to speak?

Everything is very peculiar. I personally don’t care if the Constitution says about the memory of ancestors or not. I honor and respect both my own and aliens (although what strangers they are to me) soldiers and officers of that war. And I will do it to the end.

And the one who wanted to spit on history, because it will be in the Constitution, what not ... Anyway, such a person will have a “Citadel” or something like that. Or complete indifference.

But this is how it turns out that the amendment about rewriting history seems to be directed against those who are rewriting it, but here's the problem: they are doing this in government positions and at the expense of budget money.

The situation is funny and sad at the same time. But, as one of the characters in the feature film said, the shame cannot be covered with shame. And an amendment to the Constitution does not stop the cultureless nightmare that our Ministry of Culture creates.

For our money, by the way, rewriting history and spat on the heroes of World War II.

Vladimir Vladimirovich seems to be talking, but there’s nothing further than words ... They shot and do porn films. The mausoleum with colored plywood was both closed and closed. Etc.

And what does the Basic Law have to do with it ... As another literary hero Bulgakov said, the devastation is not in the closets, but in the heads.
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  1. paul3390
    paul3390 16 June 2020 15: 09 New
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    Vladimir Vladimirovich generally spoke very much and beautifully all these 20 years. But only with concrete deeds and the fulfillment of one’s words - to put it mildly, it’s somehow not very ... To put it mildly .. Some of his promises are quite inconvenient to remember ..
    1. kjhg
      kjhg 16 June 2020 15: 23 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      Vladimir Vladimirovich generally spoke very much and beautifully all these 20 years.

      If there is some kind of the highest rank in boltology, then the nullification can rightfully appropriate it to itself.
      Quote: paul3390
      But only with concrete deeds and the fulfillment of one’s words - to put it mildly, somehow it’s not very ... This is to say the least ..

      Most of his words initially did not involve any action. This is just hypocrisy. And hypocrisy is the highest form of lies.
      Roman Skomorokhov is grateful for his voice of truth in this ocean of lies and hypocrisy on the part of state propagandahi.
      Zeroing - indelible shame and shame of Putin and his lackeys from в edra.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 16 June 2020 15: 33 New
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        Why are they calling for something? See how pitiful and ridiculous the "initiator" is. Specialists of the highest category should listen to him ... However, you yourself accurately determine the specialization.


        Roman Skomorokhov is grateful for his voice of truth in this ocean of lies and hypocrisy by the state

        I fully support! Roman, thank you and my respect! good
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 16 June 2020 20: 17 New
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          Quote: lexus
          I fully support! Roman, thank you and my respect!

          I join the sane and of course support!
          Well, the funny thing: so from whom should the memory of the ancestors be protected? Apparently, just from the above company. From scriptwriters and directors to the Minister of Culture.

          Here it must be added that this company is degrading, roofing felts are shamelessly spitting on "voters", what nonsense they carry in advertising, for voting on amendments .. this is some obscurantism ..
      2. Civil
        Civil 16 June 2020 17: 35 New
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        Funny people ... you can arise as much as you like, but you have no power. Humble yourself.
        1. kjhg
          kjhg 16 June 2020 17: 53 New
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          Quote: Civil
          you can arise as much as you like, but you have no power. Humble yourself.

          I will even say more, power does not belong to the people at all. She was seized by a handful of people in 1991. The composition of this group and their nationality are very interesting. Well, okay, you can write a whole book about them, but now we will not talk about it.
          Quote: Civil
          Humble yourself.
          And here you can’t wait for figushkiangry Lies can and necessary call a lie, and evil - evil. Remember the story. Until 1917, no one could have imagined that someday the people would be able to take power into their own hands, by force taking it from the oppressors, who covered themselves with the cross and the name of God, who drank human blood for many centuries. But this happened and this, as they say, is a medical fact. If we compare the current enslavers with the past, then the advantage will clearly not be on the side of the former. And the people well remember the precedent. So, dear Civilian, laugh while you are laughing, only how much rope you can’t curl ...
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 16 June 2020 17: 55 New
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            When in Russia the power belonged to the people, can I find out? Unless during the time of the Novgorod veche.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 16 June 2020 18: 04 New
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              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Unless during the time of the Novgorod veche.

              Also not to the people.
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 16 June 2020 19: 58 New
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              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              When in Russia the power belonged to the people, can I find out?

              It was closest to the people during Stalin. wink
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 17 June 2020 09: 12 New
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                It was closest to the people during Stalin.

                on the side of Stalin was the dream of freedom and equality instilled in the people by the Bolsheviks, and now the people are sick with consumerism. Now even Stalin would have been more difficult than then
              2. your1970
                your1970 17 June 2020 13: 03 New
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                When in Russia the power belonged to the people, can I find out?

                It was closest to the people during Stalin. wink

                That is, starting with Khrushchev, power completely diverged from the people. ???? Strong...
                That is, in order for the government to be with the people, Stalin must be photocopied; And even the presence of the Politburo-consisting of communists does not save ????
                And why do we need such socialism - if for example Gorbachev comes to power ??? Or EBN ????
                1. Plastmaster
                  Plastmaster 17 June 2020 17: 46 New
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                  It all began with the Khrushchev, and double standards and opportunists, cunning robots, crawled out to the top. Yes, under Stalin, too, they were, but in lesser numbers and scattered at night from each rustle.
                2. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 17 June 2020 22: 16 New
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                  Quote: your1970
                  And why do we need such socialism - if for example Gorbachev comes to power ???

                  You either deliberately blunt, or ..... bully The option of degenerates coming to power is possible with any form of government, but with democracy (especially in conjunction with the oligarchy) this option is almost inevitable.
                  I will repeat it for the tenth time for those especially gifted or unforgettable - personally, I consider monarchism to be a form of power when even degenerate royal persons care a little about the state in which they will pass the country on to their inheritance.
                  But since the return of the monarchy at the moment is not possible, it is necessary to return those forms of power in which the country flourished, rather than degraded. Those. socialism.
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 18 June 2020 08: 09 New
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                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    need to return those forms of power under which the country flourished, rather than degraded. Those. socialism.

                    Then knock on a tambourine to a companion who wrote here it
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    It was closest to the people during Stalin.

                    Because form of government under Khrushchev / Brezhnev / Andropov / Chernenko / Gorbachev- remained unchangedexactly the same as under Stalin.
                    And if, after the death of Stalin, the system began to work in the opinion of this comrade worse - with all the other constant characteristics, this suggests that - Stalin was a high-quality tsar / leader / general secretary, and all the rest were low-quality semi-finished products.
                    Moreover, this means that the system in the USSR turned out to be UNABLE constantly put forward high-quality leaders. ....
                    In our country, this has twice led to the collapse and collapse of the country over the past 100 years ....

                    Z. S. In the USSR, for such speeches you would definitely fall into the section “Evil Anti-Soviet” - you prevail the role of leader over the role of the party
        2. New
          New Year day 16 June 2020 22: 30 New
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          Quote: Civil
          Funny people ... you can arise as much as you like, but you have no power.

          Everything flows and everything changes.
          If you sit on the mountain for a long time, then the river will carry the corpse of your enemy by.
          How many rope does not curl, all the same the end will be
          And many, many other proverbs
          1. forest1
            forest1 17 June 2020 06: 50 New
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            True only in that case. If your enemy sits on the same mountain and upstream. In other cases, waiting for a passing corpse is useless.
      3. Plastmaster
        Plastmaster 17 June 2020 17: 40 New
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        Cyril, or something better. ...... His church also relies on folk money, like all the other Crimeans, Gazprom, etc.
      4. lego2
        lego2 18 June 2020 17: 36 New
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        Interesting thoughts. But what about the church itself then?
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 16 June 2020 15: 26 New
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      another masterpiece from brainless managers

      to put it mildly

      Today he took his father to a veteran clinic and, once again, he was convinced of this. A young dummy with botox lips and adjusted boobs adjusted as% of turnout and support was brought in to agitate the medical staff for "zeroing". A clear, so to speak, allowance of what we are offered to "vote" for. You can’t imagine it.
      1. Pane Kohanku
        Pane Kohanku 16 June 2020 16: 05 New
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        Today drove his father to a veteran clinic

        Hi Alexey!
        I won’t say for interest and breasts ... About an hour and a half ago there was a queue at the post office - well, there, one and a half meters and all that. A lady passes by the queue ... with the symbols of this social movement:
        http://rusnod.ru/
        concession goals (from their site!): Objectives GCD: The Liberation of the Russian Federation from US Colonial Dependence by Restoring Sovereignty through a Constitutional Referendum.
        Well, something there the lady said to the staff, then she left, I did not listen.
        Colleagues, has anyone ever played computer strategies? The Brotherhood of NOD, it turns out, blooms and smells! laughing and the main thing in it is clearly Mr. Kane! wassat

        Colleagues, we live in a very interesting time! request most importantly, then do not wash your snot .... what
        1. Kronos
          Kronos 16 June 2020 16: 10 New
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          Kane, unlike Fedorov, was ideological people who actually fought for their views and for the peoples of the earth
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku 16 June 2020 16: 12 New
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            Kane, unlike Fedorov, was ideological people who actually fought for their views and for the peoples of the earth

            well, these slogan on the t-shirt was like "for the homeland, for the guarantor" (The guarantor was named by last name). wink
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 16 June 2020 16: 25 New
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              well, and these slogan on a t-shirt was like "for the Motherland, for the Guarantor"

              Nicholas, hello! At that young lady, in the clinic, the "guarantor" with the slogan looked very faded against the background of the "amendments" of the 3rd size. laughing
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 16 June 2020 16: 37 New
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                At that young lady, in the clinic, the "guarantor" with the slogan looked very faded against the background of the "amendments" of the 3rd size.

                Alexey, this is not an amendment, this is an addition! drinks there could have been an eighth, but the budget was not enough - the remnants left on the lips! request
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 16 June 2020 16: 48 New
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                  but the budget was not enough

                  I’m wondering, and such a “tuning in a circle” sucked out more than one unit of the “middle class” per year, according to Mr. PJ, due.
                  1. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 16 June 2020 16: 55 New
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                    according to Mr. RJ, due.

                    unit of the "middle class" - patsaku? laughing So patsaki chatlanam sat on their heads! laughing
                    1. Lexus
                      Lexus 16 June 2020 17: 29 New
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                      So patsaki chatlanam sat on their heads!

                      Ours will sit ... Until all the kets are raked out, they will not calm down. What kind of performance do they want for this? Lifelong etsih with nails and a tranculator cry for them. "Kin-Dza-Dza!" - a prophetic film.
                      1. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 16 June 2020 17: 36 New
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                        Until all the kets are raked, they will not calm down.

                        In! They remembered at the same time! good Cult phrase: "The order of Mr. Peje: to all the boys to wear muzzles! And rejoice!" drinks and what is wrong? wink
        2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
          Uncle Vanya Susanin 16 June 2020 16: 29 New
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          In 1991 already washed!
        3. Svarog
          Svarog 16 June 2020 20: 18 New
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          Quote: Pan Kohanku
          Colleagues, we live in a very interesting time! most importantly, then do not wash your snot ....

          So already started to wash .. but the most interesting of course is ahead ..
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 17 June 2020 20: 03 New
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        Quote: lexus
        Today he drove his father to a veteran clinic and,

        Alex, why are you father in the vet? recourse
    3. Malyuta
      Malyuta 16 June 2020 15: 27 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      But only with concrete deeds and the fulfillment of one’s words - to put it mildly, somehow it’s not very ... This is to say the least ..

      Well, strictly speaking, he did sooooo much for his friends.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 16 June 2020 15: 38 New
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        he did sooooo much for his friends.

        And I didn’t forget about myself. As I see, I immediately remember.


        In the "edra"
        "All are equal, as if for selection ..." (C) "The Tale of Tsar Saltan", A.S. Pushkin

        Only in the name of the "fairy tale king" is the letter redundant. wink
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 16 June 2020 15: 45 New
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          Quote: lexus
          And I didn’t forget about myself.

          Unfortunately, in the minds of scrapers, subordinates can steal more than their boss, they are children.
    4. AK1972
      AK1972 16 June 2020 15: 41 New
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      Some sayings of Vladimir Vladimirovich:
      2003g. "The process of amending the Constitution is a destabilizing factor."
      2004g. “We must take good care of the Constitution of our country, not allow it to be changed to the taste of those people who are currently in power. We must take good care of it".
      2005g. "If each newly incoming head of state changes the Constitution for himself, then nothing will soon remain of this state."
      2007g. “Changing the Constitution for a specific person, even if I trust him, I consider it incorrect”
      So let's listen to the opinion of the president.
      1. prior
        prior 16 June 2020 16: 37 New
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        If Himself allows you to rape the Basic Law, what can we say about others subordinate to him ?!
      2. AK1972
        AK1972 16 June 2020 16: 52 New
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        Gentlemen minusers - zaputintsy! In your opinion, the president did not say that? So refute your All.
      3. Aleksandre
        Aleksandre 16 June 2020 17: 03 New
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        Quote: AK1972
        Some sayings of Vladimir Vladimirovich:

        It’s even become a little interesting to me who it is that so desperately minuses you: the Zaputinians for incriminating the leader in a lie, the anti-Putiners for a small number of examples, or the pink-eyed goofies from a big mind?
      4. New
        New Year day 16 June 2020 22: 35 New
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        Quote: AK1972
        So let's listen to the opinion of the president.

        And expect action from the contrary! They said that the deposits will not freeze, then they will definitely freeze. They said that the ruble is not in danger, then it will fly into space. Well, we need to prepare and believe in the best.
        1. aglet
          aglet 18 June 2020 21: 51 New
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          a little at the wrong time, but the meaning has not changed -
    5. credo
      credo 16 June 2020 16: 16 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      Vladimir Vladimirovich generally spoke very much and beautifully all these 20 years. But only with concrete deeds and the fulfillment of one’s words - to put it mildly, it’s somehow not very ... To put it mildly .. Some of his promises are quite inconvenient to remember ..

      It seems that the author of the article in righteous anger could not appreciate the useful essence of the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, in particular, in the issue of protecting history.
      After all, before and now, as the director, screenwriter or actor responds to claims against him about the discrepancy between his “movie masterpiece” and historical facts or the generally accepted position on historical events - “I am a creative person (or a free artist) and expressed my idea about my film the event being described, and you and the audience as a whole have not yet matured (or are unable to understand) the beauty of my imagination. " And that’s it. All "washed." Participants in those events were offended. The audience consumed bullshit, and the "creative" team was awarded prizes and awarded the titles for the anniversary.
      Now, as it seems to me, any concerned spectator and resident of our country can sue and demand that such films be recognized as not historical, since they distort history, for example, fantasy films or thrash films, where you can absolutely with impunity shoot nonsense and flog the complete nonsense, and not advertise from the central channels about the beginning of the screening of a very, very truthful film about our history.
      So there is a rational link in the amendments and refusing to participate in the vote on them seems to me short-sighted.
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      2. Nikolay87
        Nikolay87 16 June 2020 19: 18 New
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        Quote: credo
        Now, as it seems to me, any concerned spectator and resident of our country can sue and demand

        It is so sincerely naive and sweet that even the desire to thank you for this belief in the good. But, going down to the earth, it seems that you yourself do not believe what you say.
        1. credo
          credo 16 June 2020 19: 45 New
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          Quote: Nikolay87
          It is so sincerely naive and sweet that even the desire to thank you for this belief in the good. But, going down to the earth, it seems that you yourself do not believe what you say.

          Well, you, I sincerely believe in what I wrote and do not suffer from naivety, but I consider the referendum a useful event.
          Of course, you can take the author’s point of view or, for example, Panfilova’s position, which stated that since the legislative assemblies of the regions approved the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, it is not necessary to hold a referendum, but you can go to the polling station and express your position and see the voting results. Everyone solves this issue independently.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 16 June 2020 20: 04 New
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            Quote: credo
            and I consider the referendum a useful event.

            And what is the usefulness of spending public funds on voting on amendments already de jure adopted? belay
            1. credo
              credo 16 June 2020 20: 13 New
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              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: credo
              and I consider the referendum a useful event.

              And what is the usefulness of spending public funds on voting on amendments already de jure adopted? belay

              Usefulness lies in knowing the opinion of the country's population on the proposed amendments. And this knowledge is no less important for the population to know than the authorities themselves.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 16 June 2020 20: 55 New
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                Quote: credo
                Usefulness lies in knowing the opinion of the country's population on the proposed amendments.

                Are you seriously? belay And to see precisely because of the thirst to learn the opinion of the population, the government spends billions on advertising all amendments, bypassing one for which it was all about? wassat
                Why the mention in the constitution of the family when there is a family code? Why the vague amendment about the language, when the first persons of the state through the word insert Anglicism? What is the mention of pension? fool Do you really believe in all this, or on a salary?
                1. credo
                  credo 16 June 2020 21: 32 New
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                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Quote: credo
                  Usefulness lies in knowing the opinion of the country's population on the proposed amendments.

                  Are you seriously? belay And to see precisely because of the thirst to learn the opinion of the population, the government spends billions on advertising all amendments, bypassing one for which it was all about? wassat
                  Why the mention in the constitution of the family when there is a family code? Why the vague amendment about the language, when the first persons of the state through the word insert Anglicism? What is the mention of pension? fool Do you really believe in all this, or on a salary?

                  As they say - "After the fight, they don’t wave their fists."
                  Writing angry panegyrics about the uselessness of the referendum was necessary not two weeks before its holding, but immediately after the decision to hold it.
                  Well, what was it that everyone disagreed with this event:
                  - start a website on the Internet and start collecting signatures for rejecting the all-Russian referendum under the slogan - "You decide there what you need and what you don’t need to bring to the Constitution, just do not spend the referendum and don’t spend money on it,"
                  - remind the authorities that in the state a lot of unresolved problems and funds must first be spent on their elimination,
                  - remember the history and state that the Constitution appeared only in the 20th century and there is no special need for it,
                  - remind authorities that some so-called "civilized" countries still do not have a basic law and live well without suffering from its absence,
                  - and so on and so forth.
                  1. Octopus
                    Octopus 16 June 2020 22: 40 New
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                    Quote: credo
                    start a website on the Internet and start collecting signatures for rejecting the all-Russian referendum under the slogan

                    What other referendum? How many times should Panfilova explain to you that voting is not a referendum?
                    Quote: credo
                    You decide there yourself what you need and what you don’t need to bring to the Constitution

                    Uh, no, the logic is completely different.
                  2. aglet
                    aglet 18 June 2020 22: 07 New
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                    "Write angry panegyrics about the uselessness of the referendum"
                    and where do you see the referendum? it's just self-voting, for nothing, and for nothing. the amendments have already been adopted, aren't they? as self-isolation, for example
                2. Wertgan
                  Wertgan 17 June 2020 16: 43 New
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                  Oh god What a miserable argument, such as: "Let's build kindergartens instead of tanks." Only by the way you talked about state millions in you can be assumed a professional worker in the field of propaganda.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 17 June 2020 22: 06 New
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                    Quote: WertGan
                    "Let's build kindergartens instead of tanks."

                    What are you talking about? What mythical choice between tanks and kindergartens? fool There is neither one nor the other, there is an advertisement for delirium in the name of delirium, if only this delirium allowed the powers that be to chop loot.
            2. alecsis69
              alecsis69 18 June 2020 00: 40 New
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              If you really do not understand, and not just make a fool of the readers, then I can explain. The amendments adopted by the Duma, such as the integrity of territories, the preservation of history, the presumption of the constitution over "international law", etc., can also be quietly canceled by the Duma, and those adopted by popular vote cannot be quietly repealed. And what to rest against zeroing, even if Putin nominates in 24, which is not a fact, vote against who is stopping you. But then, as all the State Department upstages boiled, it’s nice to see it. And yes, Bulk is a mongrel. The "liberals" in question are Nabiulina, Gref, Siluanov, Voloshin, the entire structure of the economic bloc of the government formed under Yeltsin, and supported by a very powerful resource, both financial in the face of the privatizers of the 90s, and political in the face of the Fed structures and subordinates her structures.
              1. aglet
                aglet 18 June 2020 22: 17 New
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                "And what to run into zeroing, even if Putin nominates in 24, which is not a fact, vote against who is stopping you"
                well, they’ve voted against it all this time, but it’s obvious they’ve voted better.
                "The" liberals "in question are Nabiulina, Gref, Siluanov" - these people came to power under Putin, and were appointed to their posts with the consent of the president. By the way, Putin also appointed Yeltsin, if you are not in the know
                1. alecsis69
                  alecsis69 18 June 2020 23: 17 New
                  -2
                  Many came to power before Putin, an example of Voloshin. Even those appointed by Putin, the example of Nabiulin, represent certain forces that came to power before Putin too, read the end of my previous comment, I understand that there are many letters, but read to the end. And Putin, in 2000, came to the finished structure, look at how Trump is now fighting with his deep state, and he has more resources than Putin even now, not to mention the year 2000.
                  1. aglet
                    aglet 21 June 2020 18: 59 New
                    +1
                    "And Putin, in 2000, came to the finished structure, look at how Trump is now fighting with his deep state, and he has more resources than Putin"
                    Trump 4 years at the helm, and Putin is already 20. There is a slight difference, is not it? and Trump is at war, and Putin is speaking only in the colloquial genre, but he’s already tired, he has been voicing the same thing for 20 years. by golly, even Petrosyan already has more interesting texts
                    1. alecsis69
                      alecsis69 22 June 2020 20: 18 New
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                      Firstly, in Russian, last names are capitalized, even if you personally do not like the person.
                      Secondly, as I wrote above, Trump has a lot more resources, he is fighting with his "deep state" working for the Fed, and Putin is forced to fight with his "deep state" being henchmen and executors of the "deep state" of the USA to which he directly cannot act at all.
                      As someone smart said: the art of politics is to pet the dog until a muzzle is made.
                      1. aglet
                        aglet 23 June 2020 17: 40 New
                        0
                        "Firstly, in Russian, last names are capitalized,"
                        if it will be easier for you, consider that I do not know Russian.
                        be that as it may, but something could have been done in 20 years, in the struggle "with its" deep state "which are the proteges and executors of the" deep state "of the USA on which it cannot directly influence at all." they are all part of the very vertical of power that he so carefully built all these years. and what kind of leader of the state and patriot of his country is he if he cannot (or does not want) fight with those who are harming the country he governs and the people whom he supposedly serves and guarantees something there
                      2. alecsis69
                        alecsis69 23 June 2020 23: 20 New
                        0
                        It would be easier for me if all Russian people knew Russian.
                        Much has been done in 20 years.
                        If very large strokes, then:
                        - separatism was eliminated and regional laws were brought into line with federal laws,
                        - predatory production sharing agreements were terminated, according to which all revenues from oil and gas went to foreign companies,
                        - the combat readiness of the army was restored,
                        - the defense industry was largely restored,
                        - oligarchs such as Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, etc. removed from power
                        - the most odious "liberals" are removed from the government, and some who are already sitting, of course, but not all at once,
                        - returned the Crimea,
                        - built a bridge,
                        - regained weight in international politics, I think that what NATO arranged in Yugoslavia would not have passed now
                        Well, that first came to mind and no need to confirm with numbers.
                      3. aglet
                        aglet 24 June 2020 18: 49 New
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                        "If with very large strokes, then:
                        - separatism was eliminated and regional laws were brought into line with federal laws "
                        Have you heard about Sharia law in Chechnya? and about nationalism in the Tatars? on the compulsory study of the Tatar language by all students, and those for whom the Tatar language is not native. now they stuck on them, and they fell silent a little, but this is not the first time there, and not the last
                        "predatory production sharing agreements were terminated, according to which all revenues from oil and gas went to foreign companies"
                        so right and everything is dissolved? Have you read the lists of beneficiaries, at least in Gazprom and Rosneft? and why should they share products?
                        "oligarchs such as Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, etc. removed from power"
                        and warmed new ones - millers, sechins, patrushevs, gulls, and many others, they have no numbers
                        "regained weight in international politics"
                        yourself not funny? about the Crimea, the bridge, and the OPK already wrote, I do not want to repeat
                      4. alecsis69
                        alecsis69 24 June 2020 22: 11 New
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                        Yes, in Tatarstan, everything is not perfect, but 2000 it was a question of secession; in Chechnya, Sharia laws operate at the level of tradition, and not at the level of written laws.
                        Read about the "production sharing agreements", they didn’t receive anything from the budget, I won’t argue about the current beneficiaries by the fact that there is no accurate information at hand, and the rest is air shock.
                        The influence of the Millers and the Sechins with the position of the same Berezovsky, who put the presidents at all, is not comparable, and by the way they are not even owners, but highly paid managers.
                        About weight in international politics is not funny, Merkel in one of her speeches said that her goal is to raise the prestige of Germany to the level of heavyweights - the USA, Russia and China, but Merkel is not your authority for you, you know better.
                        About the rest, do not want to repeat, tell me where to read, it is impossible to shovel all the comments.
          2. alecsis69
            alecsis69 18 June 2020 23: 21 New
            0
            And by the way, do not assume that the majority opinion may differ from yours, no? Only better considered?
    6. Unic
      Unic 17 June 2020 09: 40 New
      +5
      This is not a referendum.
      1. alecsis69
        alecsis69 18 June 2020 23: 22 New
        +1
        This is not a referendum, but also a plebiscite option, and it simply cannot be ignored.
  • Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 16 June 2020 19: 33 New
    +4
    the essence of amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, in particular, in the issue of protecting history


    How can one protect what is not? History must first be written. About the Great Patriotic War three (if memory serves) multivolume publications. Khrushchev defeated one and Stalin did so, about nothing. In another, the main operation is landing on Novaya Zemlya. In the third, the people generally won (how many people, so many opinions). And you begin to delve into: they lied here, they embellished it, they lied about it, that was magnified on the contrary. And the reasons for the retreat to Moscow and our millions of prisoners in general in a few paragraphs are “planning errors” or something like that. Wow, mistakes. Where is the detailed analysis of "flights"? Netuti. But even some eyewitnesses are still alive. What can we say about the times of the Mongol-Tatar invasion. Every ruler wrote / rewrote history for himself. Exaggerating his merits, belittling strangers.
  • Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 16 June 2020 21: 01 New
    +4
    Quote: credo
    So there is a rational link in the amendments and refusing to participate in the vote on them seems to me short-sighted.

    a “package” of 206 amendments under article 41 was put up for referendum. yes or no for the whole package.
    so as not to walk twice.
    I did not master all the amendments, I repent but made one interesting:

    On March 10, 2020, a discussion of the amendments took place as part of the second reading of the State Duma. The amendments finally affected forty-one articles of the Constitution from the 3rd to the 8th chapter. An amendment of a deputy from United Russia, Alexander Karelin, on the snap election of the State Duma in 2020 was also proposed. The deputy from the "United Russia" Valentina Tereshkova proposed to abolish the restrictions on the number of presidential terms ...
  • flicker
    flicker 16 June 2020 21: 27 New
    -12
    It seems that the author of the article in righteous anger could not appreciate the useful essence of the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, in particular, in the issue of protecting history

    Or maybe just the opposite: I was able to evaluate the useful essence of the amendments. bully
    Maybe it (or them) is this utility and scares?
    1. alecsis69
      alecsis69 18 June 2020 00: 43 New
      +1
      No, I probably couldn’t, dear author, I don’t want to think about him very badly.
  • New
    New Year day 16 June 2020 22: 37 New
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    Quote: credo
    any concerned spectator and resident of our country can sue and demand

    And what or who is stopping you from doing this now? True, "telephone right" has not been canceled
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 17 June 2020 10: 06 New
    +2
    So there is a rational link in the amendments and refuse to vote it seems to me short-sighted.
    You can not refuse to participate .. The question is how to vote ..
    And with regards to the "rational grain" .. Who will vote to be given a barrel of honey for dinner with a couple of cow cakes ??
  • Wizzzard
    Wizzzard 17 June 2020 20: 50 New
    +2
    Quote: credo
    Quote: paul3390
    Vladimir Vladimirovich generally spoke very much and beautifully all these 20 years. But only with concrete deeds and the fulfillment of one’s words - to put it mildly, it’s somehow not very ... To put it mildly .. Some of his promises are quite inconvenient to remember ..

    It seems that the author of the article in righteous anger could not appreciate the useful essence of the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, in particular, in the issue of protecting history.
    After all, before and now, as the director, screenwriter or actor responds to claims against him about the discrepancy between his “movie masterpiece” and historical facts or the generally accepted position on historical events - “I am a creative person (or a free artist) and expressed my idea about my film the event being described, and you and the audience as a whole have not yet matured (or are unable to understand) the beauty of my imagination. " And that’s it. All "washed." Participants in those events were offended. The audience consumed bullshit, and the "creative" team was awarded prizes and awarded the titles for the anniversary.
    Now, as it seems to me, any concerned spectator and resident of our country can sue and demand that such films be recognized as not historical, since they distort history, for example, fantasy films or thrash films, where you can absolutely with impunity shoot nonsense and flog the complete nonsense, and not advertise from the central channels about the beginning of the screening of a very, very truthful film about our history.
    So there is a rational link in the amendments and refusing to participate in the vote on them seems to me short-sighted.

    A couple of comments, colleague. Maybe in the amendments there is a rational link, and maybe even a grain, but well:
    1. amendments, as you know, go in one ONE multi-volume package, and
    2. What prevents, without violating the Constitution, establishing a screen for historical lies? Is it the creation of artistic councils, or even a censorship committee? Although the introduction of an article in the Criminal Code (all is easier than to mutilate the Constitution)?
    3. And even simpler, if the bullshit (especially the mean bullshit) was withdrawn with budget money, obligate to return this money, and if it is impossible (incredible poverty) to excommunicate from the profession - by a court decision (ordinary, non-constitutional)?
    4. And in any case, do not unwind the shot at the federal TV channels.
  • aglet
    aglet 18 June 2020 22: 02 New
    0
    "Now, as it seems to me, any concerned spectator and resident of our country can sue and demand that such films be recognized as not historical, since they distort history"
    Well, do you file a lawsuit and what? Are all the judges right to drop everything and start working on your lawsuit? wait a couple of years, traveling to different cities where these courts will take place, listen, the next time the defendant did not appear, the court is being transferred to, etc. and you will understand that the court is not for you. even if you write in the constitution, ban directors f. and m. making films about the war, they will still remove them and the Ministry of Culture will release them for rent. well, maybe then they will find a "drunk boy" and you will pay the legal costs, naive Chukchi boy
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 16 June 2020 16: 40 New
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    Quote: paul3390
    Vladimir Vladimirovich generally spoke very much and beautifully all these 20 years. That's just with concrete deeds and the fulfillment of their words - to put it mildly, somehow not very ...

    Not for that, he climbed to the top to work. Yes, and if you think about it? Here you tryndy on the camera, in eltsin cent you will drag a broom, with flying cranks you will fly, forces and all. Are over. Have a conscience. Do not demand the impossible from your grandfather, he is already tired as much as he has promised you everything, and all is not enough for you.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 16 June 2020 17: 47 New
    -16
    Exactly, this applies especially to cartoons, and the Crimean bridge, and apartments for military personnel, and roads for various purposes, and agriculture, and most importantly the army, what was it like during the first Chechen one and what is now, and much, much more, about which already and do not remember. Not immediately Moscow was built.
    Well, you and Roma are still those patriots, you would only have to draw figs on the stove.
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        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 16 June 2020 19: 44 New
          -21
          That is, we live worse than 20 years ago? Oh well. You yourself then lived in the 90s or chicken memory? Then there really was a seam, now - minor troubles.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 16 June 2020 20: 12 New
            20
            That is, we live worse than 20 years ago?

            Hackneyed record. For nearly 30 years, the authorities have been the same. Or will you deny that the “Borya-blue” of the current pen in the Kremlin brought with the “dog”? Still with the Middle Ages compared. Why not with the 60-70s of the last century? However, to whom am I ...

            or chicken memory

            Rudeness, it is not from a great mind. Everything is clear - finish cocking.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 16 June 2020 20: 26 New
              -12
              Borya - the wizard certainly didn’t bring anyone. From such posts we either leave on a gun carriage or leave them at our urgent request. And who was there with whom - it doesn’t matter when Stalin and Trotsky were in the same boat. A record hackneyed, for the obvious.
            2. alecsis69
              alecsis69 18 June 2020 00: 56 New
              -1
              Putin, as you put it, “brought” to the Kremlin, so that Russia would break up under him, and Borya will remain clean. Remember the Hosavyurt agreement, there were weeks until the end of the transition period, and after free Ichkeria, Tatarstan would go after it, had its own money printed in Siberia, had you heard nothing about an independent Karelia with the capital in St. Petersburg? But Putin managed to save.
          2. snake
            snake 16 June 2020 20: 50 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            That is, we live worse than 20 years ago? Oh well. You yourself lived in the 90s

            The obese 20s began 2000 years ago. Why are you so sloppy with the main "trump card" against criticism of GDP, are you addressing? And why is your starting point of well-being not here and now - in comparison with developed countries, but in the notorious 90s? Maybe because:
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            dung flies, surrounding excrement, are not able to see anything in principle.
          3. New
            New Year day 16 June 2020 22: 40 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            That is, we live worse than 20 years ago? Oh well. You yourself then lived in the 90s or chicken memory?

            What is so shallow deepened? Pechenegs and Polovtsy remember, the comparison will be amazing laughing
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 17 June 2020 08: 31 New
              -2
              So I compare the GDP not with Ivan the Terrible and not with Vladimir the Red Sun, but with its immediate predecessor. Nowhere closer.
        2. Varyag71
          Varyag71 17 June 2020 09: 38 New
          +1
          These are especially close flies wassat
    2. aglet
      aglet 16 June 2020 18: 11 New
      12
      "and the Crimean bridge"
      Explain to me the purpose of building this bridge, the enrichment of rotenberg? rewarding him with a hero’s star? or what? what gave this bridge to the residents of the Crimea and all of Russia? the opportunity to go to rest in the Crimea? if desired, we also traveled by ferry, all the more so the prices for the engine are not very humane. price reduction on the peninsula, compared with the Krasnodar Territory due to the simplification of logistics? it didn’t work out, the local traders were not asleep. what else, well, besides simplifying the supply of the Black Sea Fleet?
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 16 June 2020 18: 16 New
        +2
        Understand, over time, but for the Black Sea Fleet and for the grouping of troops is this really unimportant?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 16 June 2020 20: 47 New
          13
          Quote: Ros 56
          but for the Black Sea Fleet and for the grouping of troops is this really unimportant?

          Pendosy in WWII supplied their group in Normandy by sea, and quite successfully. wink
          But seriously, a land connection with the Crimea is needed, but questions arise - Why did the cost of the bridge at times exceed the estimates? Estimators poorly calculated or stolen?
          1. alecsis69
            alecsis69 18 June 2020 00: 48 New
            -2
            Is it possible to proof the estimate?
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 18 June 2020 07: 24 New
              +1
              INFA in the public domain.
              1. alecsis69
                alecsis69 22 June 2020 20: 09 New
                0
                For example, in open access, I heard that he not only did not overspended, but even saved, no matter how strange it sounds, so if you gave specific numbers and links to sources, I would be very grateful.
        2. Roman123567
          Roman123567 17 June 2020 10: 19 New
          +3
          Over time, maybe you yourself will understand everything ..
        3. aglet
          aglet 17 June 2020 16: 21 New
          +1
          "Over time, you will understand,"
          You probably all understood a long time ago when your curators explained to you. don’t take people as stupid as you usually get exactly the opposite
          "But for the Black Sea Fleet and for the grouping of troops is this really unimportant?"
          for that price? it would be cheaper to carry by air, or by taxi
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 17 June 2020 16: 53 New
            -4
            Of you, an economist, like a dung bullet. And as for the curators in more detail, this is who and where and how do you know about them, you can clearly communicate closely with them. And then we are not aware of them.
            1. aglet
              aglet 18 June 2020 21: 43 New
              -1
              "And as for the curators in more detail, who and where and how do you know about them"
              so from your comments everything is clear, what is there to think further, you specifically assume it, and do not pretend to be a hose, you are not familiar with us. And about dung, I’m not an economist, but I understand the prices better than you, you, I see , you’re only thinking about manure prices. It’s obvious that you’re only hunting with manure in this life.
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 19 June 2020 05: 43 New
                0
                Snot for the beginning of the morning, son, and not being rude to adult uncles, if you strained with convolutions.
                1. aglet
                  aglet 21 June 2020 18: 54 New
                  +1
                  "Snot for the beginning of the morning, son, and not being rude to adult uncles, if you strained with convolutions."
                  similarly, kid, but don’t get lost when you need a manure specialist — I'll contact you
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    3. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 16 June 2020 19: 45 New
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      Not immediately Moscow was built.


      Of course. I quit in 1997, I got an apartment in 2012. Some 15 years. At a court hearing I say once: "The decision of the deputy mayor of St. Petersburg No. xxx cannot cancel the requirements of the Law on the status of military personnel ..." So the judge smiled and said: "You still remember the constitution." I was almost surprised by the speechlessness. So about the "constitution" they wiped and wipe their feet all and sundry. And dust has to be swallowed by ships for years! So you can die of old age, waiting for the promised "for three months." I turned to a lawyer for help, so she said that not a single court would stand on my side and the case was losing. "Fought" himself. The result is 15 years.
      1. flicker
        flicker 16 June 2020 22: 03 New
        -4
        quit in 1997
        So the Federal Law on the "status of military personnel" was adopted 27.05.1998/15/XNUMX. Art. XNUMX and then it was about a service apartment, that is, for the duration of the service.

        But in the red. 28.12/2013. XNUMX we are already talking about providing our own housing or money to purchase housing.
        It turns out you got the apartment before the law came out.
        1. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik 16 June 2020 22: 26 New
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          It turns out you got the apartment before the law came out.


          "based on the foregoing and guided by the provisions of the Law of the Russian Federation" On the status of military personnel ... "No. 4338-1 of 22.01.1993/XNUMX/XNUMX
          Well and then "On the status of military personnel" dated 27.05.1998 No. 76-FZ. In accordance with paragraph 13 of Art. 15. For health reasons, age limits or organizational staff activities, they were required to provide housing in their chosen place of residence no later than three months from the date of arrival.
          1. flicker
            flicker 16 June 2020 22: 54 New
            -1
            Then yes.
            Laws run up against bureaucratic quirks. And quirks often win.
            But not in your case, you seem to have taken them into a 12-year siege.
    4. flicker
      flicker 16 June 2020 21: 35 New
      -3
      this is especially true of cartoons, and the Crimean bridge, and apartments for military personnel, and roads for various purposes, and agriculture, and most importantly the army, what was it like during the first Chechen one and what is now
      This is what scares them, or rather those who order this music, and more precisely - pay.
      ---
      Won geldings to support Russian NGOs transferred 80 billion rubles for 2018.
      ---
      We see the work of this generosity in social networks and not only in social networks.
    5. KERMET
      KERMET 16 June 2020 21: 49 New
      -4
      First, one with the company destroyed and destroyed everything, then his protege restored something - Glory and honor to this gang for all time!
    6. Roman123567
      Roman123567 17 June 2020 10: 17 New
      +8
      And who needs cartoons ??
      What’s the bridge ?? To smear it on bread ?? I traveled to Crimea in 12, and at 17 .. Guess when the prices there were 2 times cheaper ..
      Apartments for military personnel .. and for the rest ?? The whole country in loans and mortgages ..
      Roads for various purposes .. I forgot to add - toll roads .. I can’t reach either the south or Moscow without unfastening a couple of thousand along this road .. every time !!
      Agriculture .. and where is it ?? One truck with milk comes from the fig to the dairy, and two dozen trucks leave. Is this agriculture?
      With the most important thing of the army - with what fright is this the main thing ?? Let's take an interest
      at the Norwegians / Finov / Danes / Germans / Japanese .. New Zealanders, after all .. how hard it is for them to live without a great and powerful army ..
      An army is needed in those cases when you really have something .. And for our middle class with 17 sput, it's like a bodyguard for a homeless person ..
      This army is not for the people, but first of all, to protect these crooks themselves in power .. because they are sitting in their bunker ..
      Not immediately Moscow was built.
      Exactly .. for people to have a pension of at least 500 bucks - you need to reset and reset the centuries 20 .. 20 years, of course, it was not enough ..))
  • smart ass
    smart ass 17 June 2020 10: 06 New
    0
    Zero))) I have not heard this before
  • Dwellernet
    Dwellernet 17 June 2020 12: 13 New
    +3
    Quote: paul3390
    That's just with concrete deeds and the fulfillment of their words - to put it mildly, somehow not very ...

    Well why so! With concrete deeds, he is even very! You just need to be treated with understanding: words and promises are for the population, and actions are for yourself and your friends
  • bandabas
    bandabas 17 June 2020 15: 24 New
    +1
    One “Putin infantryman” is worth it. Wah.
  • mirexes
    mirexes 17 June 2020 18: 41 New
    -1
    so you compare it with the 90s when liberals and communists were in control, they almost derailed the whole country, so you and your liberals should go to hell. If Putin did nothing well then you write here in theory you would not have money for this routine
  • tuts
    tuts 18 June 2020 06: 52 New
    -4
    He finished the war in Chechnya
    Reduced public debt
    Created a bunch of reserve funds
    He returned the Crimea
    Returned the prestige of Russia as a great power
    He took power from the oligarchs
    Ensured the growth of the welfare of citizens of the Russian Federation
    1. aglet
      aglet 18 June 2020 22: 32 New
      +3
      "Finished the war in Chechnya"
      but still pays tribute to her and recognizes the supremacy of Sharia law over the laws of Russia
      "Reduced public debt"
      “The Ministry of Finance reported on the buildup of Russia's state domestic debt. Over the year, the amount of debt increased by 1,146 trillion rubles, or 18,8 percent: as of January 1, 2018, it reached 7,247 trillion rubles. As of January 1, 2017, domestic debt amounted to 6,1 trillion rubles. "
      "Created a bunch of reserve funds"
      and where are they, and for what, is it possible in more detail?
      "He returned the Crimea"
      Well, he returned, he returned, you can’t argue, but it seems he bought it, and I’m paying for it (see the dollar exchange rate since 2014)
      "Returned the prestige of Russia as a great power
      He took power from the oligarchs
      Ensured the growth of the welfare of citizens of the Russian Federation "
      well, these are basically your dreams. don’t talk about it, you might be offended
      1. tuts
        tuts 19 June 2020 07: 10 New
        0
        here I put you + because you argue, give counterarguments whether they are correct or not, I don’t thank you that you are not a beaten-up shkolota of Mr. Navalny’s supporters who have flooded the resource recently
        She still pays tribute to her and recognizes the supremacy of Sharia law over laws. of Russia
        - https://rosinfostat.ru/dotatsionnye-regiony/ Chechnya is in 4th place and I want to ask the rest, do we also pay tribute?
        “The Ministry of Finance reported on the buildup of Russia's state domestic debt. Over the year, the amount of debt increased by 1,146 trillion rubles, or 18,8 percent: as of January 1, 2018, it reached 7,247 trillion rubles. As of January 1, 2017, domestic debt amounted to 6,1 trillion rubles. "

        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Внешний_долг_России как видите из таблицы на 2000 год, 1 января госдолг ▲158,7, а на 2019, 1 июня▲ 51,3 (было 158,7 стало 51,3)
        and where are they, and for what, is it possible in more detail?

        Well, for example, they allowed us to squeeze out during crises, for example, now when the state subsidizes us (for example, social payments of 15 K rubles for families with children)
        but it looks like he bought it, and I’m paying for it (see the dollar exchange rate since 2014)
        the trick is that you live in Russia and our goods are produced in rubles (salaries of employees are paid in rubles), respectively, the cheaper the ruble, the more competitive the goods produced in our country. As an example, China has been pushing the West for decades to raise the exchange rate RMB
        well, these are basically your dreams. don’t talk about it, you might be offended
        I remember myself in 1991 and 2000 and compare with what I have now: a normal apartment, televisions in each room, each family member has their own PCs, there is a garage, the normal salary the refrigerator is filled with all sorts of different things and the windowsills are full of all kinds of fruits
        PS Yes, we are not doing well in the country, there is corruption and nepotism, but progress is also visible
        1. aglet
          aglet 21 June 2020 18: 49 New
          0
          "Well, for example, they let us squeeze in times of crisis, for example, now when the state subsidizes us "
          your typo is exactly according to Freud, who is being squeezed out in crises is us, and the state has never subsidized me, rather, on the contrary
          "the trick is that you live in Russia and with us our goods are produced in rubles (salaries of employees are paid in rubles)"
          the salary is paid in rubles, you can’t argue with you, but what our goods are made of, for the most part, is bought for dollars, there, far, outside the ruble zone
          "I remember myself in 1991 and 2000 and compare with what I have now: a normal apartment, televisions in each room, each family member has their own PC, there is a garage, the normal salary the refrigerator is filled with all sorts of different things and the windowsills are full of all kinds of fruits"
          you won’t believe it, I had it all in the 90s and 00s, there was only one TV, and now I don’t need one anymore. with a PC it was more difficult, but the Spectrum was already in the 90s, there was a garage, Now I don’t - the car I have is big now, it doesn’t fit into the garage, and I’ll also buy the next one, too, so I got rid of it, as if I don’t need it. I started buying oranges more often and the children grew up, and so, little has changed. Yes, prices rose rapidly with a jack and the number of various fines for ordinary people has grown incredibly. and so, there are not many differences
  • WILL
    WILL 16 June 2020 15: 11 New
    14
    It was with great pleasure that I watched Two New Films about the War "Sister" and "The Soldier" - both filmed with the support of the Ministry of Culture, Excellent Films - I recommend watching!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 June 2020 15: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: ANIMAL
      Two New War Films "Little Sister" and "The Soldier" - both filmed with the support of the Ministry of Culture, Great Films

      "Soldier" looked, a good movie, thanks reminded about the "Sister" you need to see.
      1. WILL
        WILL 16 June 2020 15: 56 New
        +7
        Be sure to see the "Sister"! The Spouse has half the film - Tears didn’t leave my eyes ... and I have a lump in my throat, to call Our Family impressionable - well, you definitely can’t! The film is Just the Best of War, shot recently, although there is practically no fighting there per se!
        Unfortunately, the other Premieres of the year, except for irritating other feelings, did not cause!
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 16 June 2020 19: 17 New
          +5
          Quote: ANIMAL
          I have a lump in my throat, to call Our Family impressionable - well, definitely not! Movie - Just The Best About War, Filmed Recently

          I believe you stopudovo, be sure to look.
        2. smart ass
          smart ass 17 June 2020 10: 08 New
          +3
          In that case, watch the “go and see” Belarus movie
        3. your1970
          your1970 17 June 2020 13: 16 New
          +3
          "Cry of silence" did not look?
  • Dedok
    Dedok 16 June 2020 15: 12 New
    -14
    “Shtrafbat” - where is the main role of Serebryakov? - is he mediocre and deceitful?
    or talking about different films?
    according to "28 Panfilovites" - not hooked, not once.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 16 June 2020 15: 20 New
      -1
      And I noticed - the author constantly mentions the "penal battalion" as a failed film. Separate moments - I agree, but that in a quarter of an hour the whole series would be tarred with water? ..
      At the end there is a long string of numbers of penal battalions. So this is not fiction.
      1. Oleg Zorin_3
        Oleg Zorin_3 16 June 2020 23: 46 New
        +3
        Here is the thing. There is deceit. The list of penalties is correct. They only existed not simultaneously, but throughout the war. Some are even less than a month old. And Serebryakov is a good actor, talented.
    2. forester1971
      forester1971 16 June 2020 15: 55 New
      28
      Shtrafbat is an absolutely false film. No correspondence with the history of the Second World War. I will not write about everything, but the most noticeable thing is that the entire command of the battalion was from among non-convicted officers, i.e. "hero" Serebryakova could not be a commander. And a long series of distortions.
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 16 June 2020 21: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: Dedok
      is he mediocre and deceitful?

      He is lying and talented.
  • RESEARCHER
    RESEARCHER 16 June 2020 15: 13 New
    14
    There were artistic councils - there were masterpieces.
    And now everything is presented to us by the training manual from Hollywood.
    One disappointment and nausea.
    And the old constitution and updated this problem will not solve.
    Here the system needs more radical adjustments than prescribed in the constitution.
    1. your1970
      your1970 17 June 2020 13: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: RESEARCHER
      There were artistic councils - there were masterpieces.

      Toughie 1966 years with Solomin seemingly life and truthful masterpiece fool
  • Vend
    Vend 16 June 2020 15: 13 New
    +1
    The author, in the USSR war films showing the war of the period from 1941 to 1943, already “Tigers” creep on Soviet soldiers and every German has “Schmeisser”, but this does not make the films bad. And you look at Soviet films, where the Germans make completely stupid morons. For example, "T-34"? Yes, Petrov is rather weak as an actor for this film, but on the whole the film was a success, albeit with a Hollywood happy ending. Yes, it’s difficult for modern directors to make a decent film, they didn’t know the war, and the films of the USSR were filmed by the directors who went through the war. I don’t say that modern films are good, but you don’t need to distort too.
    1. BAI
      BAI 16 June 2020 16: 34 New
      +3
      Just recently I read an article about German technology in Soviet films. Understood a film about the defense of Moscow in 1960 (the name flew out of my head), there in the frames flash real, real (not mock-ups) Tiger and Ferdinand. On the one hand - the real ones, on the other - in 1941 near Moscow?
      1. BAI
        BAI 16 June 2020 17: 50 New
        10
        I remembered and found. The film "At Your Doorstep" 1962.

        Tiger and Ferdinand near Moscow.
        1. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 16 June 2020 20: 43 New
          +3
          you comrade where near Moscow could see a tiger
    2. k174oun7
      k174oun7 16 June 2020 16: 50 New
      -7
      The "T-34" movie is correct. Made in Hollywood, for young people the very thing. Do not compare, say, with the “White Tiger” where dozens of our tanks are burning with crews and with an incomprehensible message to the audience. That's where the wild mystical fantasy of the scriptwriter and director on the theme of the Second World War.
      1. Vend
        Vend 16 June 2020 16: 54 New
        -5
        Quote: k174un7
        The "T-34" movie is correct. Made in Hollywood, for young people the very thing. Do not compare, say, with the “White Tiger” where dozens of our tanks are burning with crews and with an incomprehensible message to the audience. That's where the wild mystical fantasy of the scriptwriter and director on the theme of the Second World War.

        This is a white tiger to Karen Shakhnazarov, I don’t understand how he could remove this.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 16 June 2020 17: 47 New
          +7
          According to the book by I. Boyashov "Tanker, or the White Tiger" the film cannot be made at all. This is a mystical parable about the struggle between good and evil, and not an action movie, like Shakhnazarov’s film.
    3. New
      New Year day 16 June 2020 22: 51 New
      +9
      Quote: Wend
      Yes, modern filmmakers find it difficult to make a decent movie

      As a child, I watched a lot of films about the war and a definite look has already taken shape, so modern films are not to my liking. Maybe they are good, but immediately there is a comparison with the Soviet film and the hand is looking for a remote control.
      1. your1970
        your1970 17 June 2020 13: 22 New
        +1
        "The cry of silence" is bad ????
        Quote: Silvestr
        Maybe they are good, but immediately there is a comparison with the Soviet film and the hand is looking for a remote control.
        Reply
    4. Brturin
      Brturin 16 June 2020 23: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Wend
      the film was a success, albeit with a Hollywood happy ending. Yes, it’s difficult for modern filmmakers to make a decent film, they didn’t know the war, and the films of the USSR were filmed by the directors who went through the war,

      I’m not sure that now you can make a film about the war, which will be accepted by both our and the “Hollywood” audience, these are different people, and you need to talk about the war as much as possible for the larger “Hollywood” audience, and there your own traditions have developed - the effects and pr ... The T-34 is more likely for them, and you need to shoot for them, but is there now a director who will remove that we would take it ...
    5. Oleg Zorin_3
      Oleg Zorin_3 16 June 2020 23: 50 New
      +4
      There are many bad Soviet films about the war. The problem is that there are no good Russians. However, as well as not about the war, too
  • Dedok
    Dedok 16 June 2020 15: 15 New
    13
    and according to the poster in the title of the article: our ancestors did not die for "capitalistic bright future", so this" substitution of concepts "- looks very base ....
  • Titus_2
    Titus_2 16 June 2020 15: 17 New
    +7
    This is why I’ll go, I’ll go in principle and give my vote against the changes .... already from the microwave, calls go to vote or you lose, we only lost 30 years ago.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 16 June 2020 15: 37 New
      16
      microwave calls
      And where is the logic. In 1996, they voted and lost. If your name is microwave, maybe it’s not worth it?
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 16 June 2020 16: 32 New
        14
        People do not understand that going to a plebiscite, they will essentially vote for the same Constitution that they voted in 1993, only some will vote for the Constitution as amended, others will vote for the Constitution without amendments, for the Constitution of the ruling class ... Or simply because they voted in 1993 ...
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 16 June 2020 15: 18 New
    +2
    Wait (the patriots) will run screaming, to disperse the Ministry of Culture and stuff like that. But in fact, the author is right, in the minds of the first of all, the devastation and mayahatask to everyone, which is why the roots of the mass of our current problems are growing.
  • Nikolay87
    Nikolay87 16 June 2020 15: 21 New
    13
    Criminal power is a consequence of the passivity of society.
    1. flicker
      flicker 16 June 2020 22: 15 New
      -7
      Criminal power is a consequence of the passivity of society.
      Do you mean Ukraine?
      Or the USA?
      1. Octopus
        Octopus 16 June 2020 22: 46 New
        +6
        Quote: flicker
        Do you mean Ukraine?
        Or the USA?

        Yes, this is a universal maxim.
    2. New
      New Year day 16 June 2020 22: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: Nikolay87
      Criminal power is a consequence of the passivity of society.

      Every nation deserves a government that has request
  • flicker
    flicker 16 June 2020 15: 25 New
    -6
    ... As another literary hero of Bulgakov said, the devastation is not in the closets, but in the heads
    The question is in whose heads?
    1. flicker
      flicker 16 June 2020 22: 12 New
      -3
      The number of minuses indicates how many people in their answer to this question recognized their heads. laughing
      While there are 3
      bully
    2. flicker
      flicker 16 June 2020 23: 01 New
      -3
      Already 4 faces have found devastation in their head bully
    3. flicker
      flicker 17 June 2020 08: 35 New
      +2
      Another 3 people (a total of 7) found devastation in their heads.
      bully
  • vadimtt
    vadimtt 16 June 2020 15: 28 New
    14
    Good call, Roman! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! The Ministry of Culture and Co. has long been living in some kind of parallel reality and is not going to return wassat
  • samurai_klim
    samurai_klim 16 June 2020 15: 33 New
    +5
    All amendments will be accepted. Of my friends who are against the amendments, 10 percent are voting. The rest "they say, everything is decided, it does not depend on us, etc.". But all who are in favor are coming. Then weep, they say they all accepted, bastards, radishes and so on.
    1. mirexes
      mirexes 17 June 2020 18: 42 New
      -1
      I, too, go for it too, and whoever doesn’t go, then let it not whine.
    2. Wizzzard
      Wizzzard 18 June 2020 00: 52 New
      0
      Quote: samurai_klim
      All amendments will be accepted. Of my friends who are against the amendments, 10 percent are voting. The rest "they say, everything is decided, it does not depend on us, etc.". But all who are in favor are coming. Then weep, they say they all accepted, bastards, radishes and so on.

      Alexander, a couple of clarifications. All amendments have already been adopted (as Ellochka herself reported more than once or twice). But we, "lohtoratu", are offered a certain inedible dish: supposedly (exactly supposedly !!!) voting. As if such a plebiscite, the leader tickle the love of the people. Neither such pseudo-voting, nor a social poll under the guise of elections (who? Why? Where?) Is not spelled out in any law of the Russian Federation. But!
      Going to vote (even with a harsh NO) you thereby confirm the legitimacy and legitimacy (for you who have come) of this shameful and totally unscrupulous act.
  • Threaded screw
    Threaded screw 16 June 2020 15: 34 New
    +3
    Previously, everyone was not happy with the lack of an alternative point of view, now they are not happy with what they are. True, you have to pay for it, keep pocket liberals of piderasts, but no one said that it would be free. “Tanks”, “Invincible”, “Hitler Kaput”, “Bastards” - you can go on ad infinitum ... These are not films about the war, these are low-quality action films, of which countless others are shot in the world, not only here. "Burnt by the Sun" is a separate song, the master shot himself, for himself, and he liked it.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 16 June 2020 15: 36 New
    17
    Everything as a whole is true and well written. The only thing is that the author perceives these amendments as a kind of real essence. But they are not, and therefore seriously discussing them is simply pointless. Everything that concerns the transfer of power fits into it as an element of the manipulation of consciousness. Or simply put, for the sake of PR-a.
    I can even describe how roughly this happens. PR managers in AP are sitting under the coke — shechek ascend to the seventh heaven or shaman (they are all turned on the esoteric there), then it comes to one’s head, and let's rumble about the memory of the ancestors, it should roll .. The other, having difficulty leaving the nirvana, answers him - for sure, one should not forget about spirituality. Then, a prominent lawyer and statesman E. Isinbaeva will say to the commission that I looked into the Constitution, an interesting document, but I don’t have enough about the memory of my ancestors. Let's enter, let's. Here you have the finished amendment.
    In fact, it simply has nothing to do with reality. Here, for example, even in the old version of the Constitution, we have written that the Russian Federation is a social state. So what ? Well recorded and recorded, no one cares. And here it cannot be said that this is some unique feature of the Russian Federation. This, in general, is a common generic property of the countries of 3 cap.world. If we turn to the constitution of, say, Nigeria or Colombia, then it also says something so spiritually elevating, but absolutely not related to reality.
    1. Threaded screw
      Threaded screw 16 June 2020 15: 51 New
      +6
      but absolutely not related to reality.
      The same can be said about lawmaking in the country.
    2. flicker
      flicker 16 June 2020 23: 55 New
      -8
      PR people in coke sit under coke - AP go to the seventh heaven or shaman (they are all turned on the esoteric there), then it comes to one's mind, but let's rumble about the memory of the ancestors, it should roll ..
      Now you yourself are not under coke? laughing
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 17 June 2020 03: 20 New
        +6
        Quote: flicker
        Now you yourself are not under coke?

        Reporting, no way, Comrade Major General.
        For I do not work in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or in AP Shechek ... Direct deliveries of the purest coconut go only to ardent patriots raising Russia from their knees. And then there is a whole line of people who want to.
        1. flicker
          flicker 17 June 2020 09: 07 New
          -2
          deliveries of pure coconut go only to ardent patriots who raise Russia from their knees.
          Have you been envious? bully
    3. mirexes
      mirexes 17 June 2020 18: 44 New
      -2
      Here is another mishandled Cossack found, because only a corrupt skin would be for a court from another country to decide how to be, because it suits the skins right?
  • Operator
    Operator 16 June 2020 15: 47 New
    -6
    Like - filmmakers screwed up, I’m offended, and you don’t go to vote from the principle laughing
  • Tomich3
    Tomich3 16 June 2020 15: 52 New
    +8
    Yes, we have trouble not only with war films, but with cinema as a whole. I honestly don’t even know what our Ministry of Culture is doing. If it is eliminated, then, in my opinion, nothing will change. However, this applies not only to this ministry. But what about the Constitution. It can already be bought in the new edition in bookstores)))).
  • demo
    demo 16 June 2020 16: 05 New
    -7
    Mr. Skomorokhov began to lose the polemic fuse.
    Earlier, starting the article I understood - this is written by Roman.
    And now it was already required to “wait for the credits”.
    Why so many words?
    And to whom are they addressed?
    It is quite obvious that the paradigm of power promoted earlier - "the king is good, but the boyars are crooks" has outlived itself.
    The king, as the sheriff from Alabama blacks problems to one place.
    It is said: the president approves the post of ministers with the filing of the prime minister.
    Those. he guarantees that ministers comply with the requirements for them.
    The ministers begin to sabotage their work, skimp on their duties, bring them to those distances, from where no one knows how to get out, the prime minister is primarily responsible.
    And then the president.
    When there was an embarrassment (this is very mild) with Serdyukov, I, sincerely, sincerely thought about the fact that his father-in-law, Zubkov (as a recommender), had to be sent not to the Gazprom Management Committee Chairmen, but to send to Dudinka, 20 years old .
    Only total degenerate could make such a mistake and everything.
    And what did we see?
    Saw ......

    The king is responsible for everything.
    So ideally.
    The king does not care at all.
    So in real life.
    And the king wanted to hear the voice of the people in the form of a vote on amendments?
    What a fool still does not realize that the king simply ceased to consider himself a part of the people.
    The king had already moved into the heavens.
    Mosaics were taken out of the new church, but for how long?
    1. flicker
      flicker 17 June 2020 00: 03 New
      -3
      Mr. Skomorokhov began to lose the polemic fuse.
      Hmm, you burned, so burned where Skomorokhov before you.
      But what to do request not everyone has such a flight fellow thoughts.
      bully
  • parusnik
    parusnik 16 June 2020 16: 15 New
    18
    You know, Roman, after reading your article, I thought, what if the historical Truth has already been created, one that is pleasing to the ruling. What we still don’t know. So we decided to write this Truth into the Constitution. They will preserve it. The truth will be, for example, such as in the films you are talking about. And it’s worth it to be indignant, everything at once ... encroached on the sacred, on the Constitution ... This, of course, is my assumption, but everything can be ...
    1. Wizzzard
      Wizzzard 18 June 2020 00: 56 New
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      You know, Roman, after reading your article, I thought, what if the historical Truth has already been created, one that is pleasing to the ruling. What we still don’t know. So we decided to write this Truth into the Constitution. They will preserve it. The truth will be, for example, such as in the films you are talking about. And it’s worth it to be indignant, everything at once ... encroached on the sacred, on the Constitution ... This, of course, is my assumption, but everything can be ...

      It may not be as funny as we think ...
  • BAI
    BAI 16 June 2020 16: 21 New
    +1
    “T-34”, “Tanks”, “Invincible”, “Hitler Kaput”, “Burnt by the Sun”, “Stalingrad”, “Shtrafbat”, “Bastards”

    Hitler Kaput is not a war film. This is a screen version of the joke about the war, which claims nothing but the box office. The authors positioned it as a film about love, not about war.
    If you approach the requirements of the author, then you need to add to the list to smithereens the "Summer trip of Sergeant Tsybuli." And even more so - "Masks in the partisan detachment" from the Mask show.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 16 June 2020 17: 52 New
      -7
      "T-34" should also be considered not as a historically reliable film about the war, but as a film - a legend, a film-epic. By the type of "Evpatiya Kolovrat" In this review, the "T-34" is really good.
      1. BAI
        BAI 16 June 2020 18: 17 New
        +1
        In "T-34" you can find the elements: "White Tiger", "Lark", "Stalingrad" by Bondarchuk Jr. and "Crew of a combat vehicle".
      2. ZAV69
        ZAV69 16 June 2020 22: 14 New
        +2
        So no one sees it as historically reliable. There are even episodes of Crazy Max. And about the run of the t-34 from Kharkov to Moscow, there is a wonderful film made during the Soviet era.
      3. Obliterator
        Obliterator 18 June 2020 13: 24 New
        0
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        "T-34" should also be considered not as a historically reliable film about the war, but as a film - a legend, a film-epic. By the type of "Evpatiya Kolovrat" In this review, the "T-34" is really good.

        Only now it is positioned and advertised precisely as a historically reliable film.
  • sleeve
    sleeve 16 June 2020 16: 36 New
    +5
    Yeah. What can I say. At least someone knows how to. At least someone well done, the government controls, at least in the comments. And then mired .... And do not see at all.
  • savage1976
    savage1976 16 June 2020 16: 51 New
    -15
    1. Oooh, we’re collecting daddies. And with daddy and what will you do? Write anonymous letters or send them to the appropriate authorities? And can he collect all the authors of daddies and send them to labor camps for re-education? Do you think yourself the head of the camp? Oh well.
    2. Let us recall the wonderful Soviet film “Only the elderly go into battle”, the whole film the pilots sing songs, and in between songs, out of boredom, they seem to fly out to beat German aces. Well, blame the authors of the film for falsification, this is not true. And where did the Soviet Ministry of Culture look ....... Apparently then they were already engaged in distorting history.
    3. With sapper blades to attack the enemy, also turns out to be a lie, according to Roman. Therefore, in Soviet documentaries, they also lied and lied a lot, the Soviet Army was apparently armed with the most modern weapons operating on the principle of "shot and forgot" and waged a war exclusively on the territory of the enemy. It will revise The Battle for Moscow, Battalions Ask for Fire, and many other films, there are few campaigns of crowds of soldiers with a rifle and going into battle, more of them being driven into a heap and not knowing what to do, but this is of course all distortion historical truth.
    Well, continue to criticize the novel, it works out well for you and do not forget to get to the pillar, it is not of the shape that you want, which means it is wrong.
    1. Avior
      Avior 18 June 2020 00: 52 New
      -3
      And where did the Soviet Ministry of Culture look

      The Ministry of Culture just banned the film, or rather, put it on the shelf.
      Just for the very reasons that you voiced, what kind of Hahanka about the war?
      Even the front-line soldier Smirnov, a gentleman of three orders, managed to break through for such a serious matter as a film about the war, too comedic reputation.
      What can I say, even the script was hardly approved. They didn’t give a color film to the film; they shot it in black and white.
      But the film had high defenders who liked the film.
      Aviation Marshal, three times Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander Pokryshkin, member of the CPSU Central Committee, Air Force Commander in Chief, Aviation Marshal Hero of the Soviet Union Pavel Kutakhov, twice Hero of the Soviet Union Aviation Lt. Gen. Vitaliy Popkov, Hero of the Soviet Union Semyon Kharlamov, the film’s main consultant, whose wife was Hero of the Soviet Union Nadezhda Popova, deputy squadron commander of the 46th guards female regiment of night bombers, prototype of Zoe from the film.
      It was difficult for the Ministry of Culture to resist such people entering high offices.
      1. savage1976
        savage1976 18 June 2020 04: 29 New
        0
        So the movie is so bad? And what did millions of viewers like him so much and still like him? Probably all the same, the film is good, but it is artistic, and not documentary-historical. And the viewer decides whether a movie is good or bad by his views; he may or may not like him. The same is true of “Shtrafbat” (more than 70% of positive reviews), “Stalingrad” (more than 60% of positive reviews of film critics and even more viewers), “T-34” (more than 70% of positive audience reviews), feature films, and not historical and documentary. And it is not up to the author of this article to judge their “slag”, “mediocrity”, “unsupported”, etc. He can express his opinion (like or dislike, criticize with justification), but he does not, he insults the authors and actors of these films, but he is really offended when he is told that he is no more than criticizing in his article whether to see "disrespect for the author", although this is what he himself does, but in his own eye the logs are not visible.
        1. Avior
          Avior 18 June 2020 08: 44 New
          -1
          Actually, I wrote about his role in the Ministry of Culture of those times.
          Films like Some old people go into battle or White desert sun hit the screens contrary to officials.
  • FIR FIR
    FIR FIR 16 June 2020 16: 56 New
    +4
    Publicists from the authorities do not see the coast at all. Children, veterans and war veterans use in their adverts. There is nothing sacred for people.
    What do they get the money for?
    They should attract the people to this vote, but they do the opposite.
    1. mirexes
      mirexes 17 June 2020 18: 46 New
      -2
      mind the corrupt liberals are confused only by zeroing, but they themselves show that they do not care about everyone except the authorities)))) the stupid audience of these liberals may not understand this, but believe the problem of the liberals is that they do not underestimate people
  • Dizel200
    Dizel200 16 June 2020 17: 12 New
    -1
    Do you know that there was another instance in the USSR? Films before going to the screen were watched by Stalin and his entourage, as well as Brezhnev and others, and here the bullshit was no longer slipped. Can GDP also do this at lunchtime?
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 16 June 2020 17: 42 New
      +4
      Stalin, of course, loved cinema, but in 1946, 22 films were shot, in 1948 - 18, in 1951 - in general - 9. Under Brezhnev, up to 300 films were shot a year.
  • Lysik001
    Lysik001 16 June 2020 17: 18 New
    -5
    I really like the Battalion! The film is anguished and does not leave indifferent. A brilliant game of actors and in general. Many consider him a slander to the USSR and Stalin. I am sure that the reality of the war was much worse and so not only the penal battalion was dying. Given the gouging of our people for hundreds of years, I would not be surprised about an attack without artillery preparation or starvation in the trenches. He himself served and I know both hunger and the utter stupidity of the command staff.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 16 June 2020 18: 03 New
      +7
      A penal battalion is a kinolap on a kinolap. The permanent composition of the penal battalion is ordinary officers, not penal, up to and including the commander’s platoon. Further, there were no criminals in the penal battalion, in the penal battalion the officers redeemed guilt. Criminals could only be in the SR.
  • Sunstorm
    Sunstorm 16 June 2020 17: 22 New
    +4
    Want comments from Belarus? You apparently do not know that Belarusians are not up to your problems? Hinting that we have problems with non-replaceability? Or with the adequacy of a leader? So, Russians periodically come to us and tell what “good AHL and bad Putin”, and we, in principle, are not against exchange.
    1. New
      New Year day 16 June 2020 22: 57 New
      +9
      Quote: Sunstorm
      Russians come and tell what “good AHL and bad Putin”, and we, in principle, are not against exchange

      So in Ukraine, everyone loves Putin ..... said Kiselev laughing
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  • rocket757
    rocket757 16 June 2020 18: 00 New
    -1
    Neither the amendment, nor anything else, launched from above, will change anything in our lives.
    The power system is such, and the rest is just the consequences of its activities.
    Get up, unite the working people, then it will be possible to speak with them on equal terms, but for now ......
    1. flicker
      flicker 16 June 2020 22: 38 New
      -6
      unite the working people
      For unification, the people need an understandable project (the project organizes and organizes)
      No project - no association.
      Just get up people (without a project) - it will turn out or Maidan and the United States today. In the first case (the people were quickly stalled), in the second they will also be put - and the “whites” will take revenge on the “blacks” with unbelievable cruelty.
      Once again: there is no project - there is no constructive long-term association, but there is a short-term destructive association.
      Now the question is: why are people being driven to protest without a project? What is the purpose of this?

      About power.
      The power system is

      Here is the answer - the power is SYSTEM, and any system is this orderliness and organization.
      Another question on what is it combined?
      Most likely, on the "nishtyak".
      Although there are those who plow the country - otherwise we would not have an army, would not have built a nuclear floating nuclear power plant, would not have built the Crimean bridge, would not have fixed on the warhead, etc. And such statesmen should be helped.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 June 2020 05: 29 New
        +2
        Can anti lecture read in response? It will not be any more interesting .....
        Maidan, revolution, riot with us .... not possible, no prerequisites.
        The system we have is constructive / destructive ??? you live at the expense of others, it will be more modest and more honorable, this is for starters, and then more efficiently, more lawfully and ... a long list of questions.
        It will always be useful for people to unite, Schaub aware of themselves as SOCIETY!
        Unite on the principle of social belonging, it is logical.
        Why unite, what is the purpose ....
        It’s fun to walk along the expanses
        And of course it’s better to chorus CHOICE!
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 16 June 2020 18: 03 New
    +6
    Well, what did you eat? It turns out that Soviet films are not accurate, and the current ones are completely nothing. But essentially the same "cars in the yards." They liked the penalty.
    One of my favorite books, Living and Dead. Who else remembers the author himself fought. So in the third volume of the episode, during the exercises, the sergeant mortar accidentally kills the regiment commander, and also the Hero of the Union. They wanted to shoot, but at the last moment they sent to a penal battalion. Operation Bagration. And soon the fighter was easily injured and he continues the offensive not as a fighter, but as an ordinary soldier. But it would be better if they didn’t try to make a film from this book. Again there will be stories about the evil Enkavedeshnikov.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 16 June 2020 18: 53 New
      +1
      Simonov wrote strongly, no words. But I like Shumilin’s “Roly Company” more. A tough book, many do not like. Trench truth.
  • Snail N9
    Snail N9 16 June 2020 18: 04 New
    12
    No one will tell the truth that constitutional amendments not only “nullify” the nullified, introduce a lifelong senatorialism, but also nudge and give increased rights to the “state council” —this kind of inter-quarrel between clans in power — in fact, a return to the “seven bankers” 90- x and early 2000s. pr completely depriving the people of the right to challenge the arbitrariness of the Russian authorities and law enforcement agencies in international courts due to the notorious amendment on the primacy of "domestic law over international" ....
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 16 June 2020 18: 50 New
    +5
    I support the article of Roman Skomorokhov. I really support.
    Except for two points.
    1. In the list of decent films, to "28 Panfilov" I would add "White Tiger"
    Not everyone understood that this is an allegory film with a very deep meaning.
    The Tiger who has gone into the swamp is Nazism hiding. And we observe his appearance from the swamp.
    2. The author writes that - = That is, if the Ukrainians say that the Ukrainians liberated Auschwitz, since the front was Ukrainian, this, of course, is a violation and distortion. =
    But does it say that - “Ukrainians say” is not a distortion?
    1. Not "Ukrainians", but a Ukrainian said that ...
    2. Not a "Ukrainian", but a citizen of Ukraine. (Ukrainian, all the same - nationality, not citizenship).
    Judging by one halfwit about a whole nation, is it not a distortion?
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 16 June 2020 18: 52 New
    +1
    Protect which memory and from whom? In our country, half of society believes that Stalin is a hero and that there were no tortured, repressed (well, or almost none) - the other half believes the opposite.
    And who should be “protected" in this situation? If those who are the first ones, then their authorities regularly offend them, then they will close the mausoleum, then they will say something about Stalin, then he will give money to Zuleykh. If the latter is about the second ... the picture is the same Oo These people will be branded as "liberals", Western fans, historical revisionists, for them they will paint a portrait of Stalin in the Cathedral of the Armed Forces, etc. The main fan of rewriting and repainting history has long been the state itself, which has such a specific position in the best trolling traditions that you can’t spit on anyone — everything for a just cause, for children, for grandfathers and for all the good things that are called.
    So I don’t know to whom it is there and how it will “not allow” something, and most importantly what position it will consider to be “party-right”, but it certainly won’t be better from this - at least fix it, at least not.
    We generally have a lot of state presence — in the cinema, in the art, in the infosphere — at times it’s really unclear what they are fighting with, given that the “28 Panfilovites” mentioned by the author are almost the only film made mostly for non-state money and reaching wide screens.
  • Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 16 June 2020 19: 18 New
    -10
    "the second. It is very pleasing that every second our reader, who so vehemently supports the show with voting, from such developed countries as Moldova, Ukraine, Lithuania, Estonia, Armenia. It is very nice to see (yes, we removed the flags, but it’s not obstacle) that in countries with a victorious constitutional system and a developed economy, our aspirations are so highly regarded. "
    It is strange when amendments to the Russian constitution proposed by the president of the Russian Federation are called ---- shows ..... Moreover, the hints towards those living in Ukraine, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova and Armenia are not clear. People also live in these republics as they lived under the USSR. And most of them are not happy that the union has collapsed, and many people living in these republics have Russian citizenship, but for one reason or another, they cannot move to live in Russia. Although these people do not live in Russia, they still consider themselves part of it, and are its citizens. Amendments to the constitution certainly excite many. Many would wish such a constitution in their republics. But the leaders of their republics are more comfortable with laws against the Russian language, rewriting history and escalating negative relations. Therefore, the comments and feelings of people about the edits from any post-Soviet republic are quite understandable.
  • iouris
    iouris 16 June 2020 19: 37 New
    +3
    This means that the diagnosis was made: the duumvirate has “devastation in the head”. Or maybe everything is "under control"? The author simply did not identify the goal. It is necessary to identify the goal. As one deputy told voters (somewhere high in the mountains, not in our area): "You thought you chose us to live better? No, you chose us to live better"
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  • General D
    General D 16 June 2020 20: 09 New
    +6
    One word that characterizes what is happening, not only in the cinema, but in all areas: INCOMPETENCE
    1. Old Orc
      Old Orc 17 June 2020 13: 34 New
      +1
      Tell me if the killer puts the entire clip in the bodyguard and not the businessman, is he blind, or is it necessary? also with films they put the whole clip in the understanding of the people what Soviet people are and why they fought, for what. Moreover, everywhere they demonstrate that everyone is attacking the historical truth.
  • ser56
    ser56 16 June 2020 20: 28 New
    -10
    the author put together all his complexes in a heap bully
    curious - did he read the amendments?
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  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 16 June 2020 20: 32 New
    +6
    in Smolensk, in a tram depot, they offer to bring a passport and vote earlier and take a walk on July 1, because what they are doing and many more likely will do so and there is a big question about the fate of these ballots
  • Unknown
    Unknown 16 June 2020 22: 00 New
    +6
    the current government adopted the victory of the USSR, and the symbols of this victory. what does the current government have to do with victory? the president, who in all his speeches blasphemed the SOVIET UNION, and when he completely brought the country to a pen, like a real card sharper, pulled out the topic of victory from his sleeve and threw people to their health. they write media, even wrote an article about the history of WWII. But, before that, in St. Petersburg, a mannerheim board was installed, how is it? where s.k., and involvement under the article, the glorification of fascism? How did I repent before the Poles? Yes, a lot of things you can remember. feature films about the war, there are no real films. the war itself, the author can still depict in his works, but on the screen, you can’t convey everything. but even at least it’s possible to convey a little bit of truth. an example, they fought for their homeland, and the tanks weren’t there, the Germans were all with mn, and the German officers in caps weren’t doing such effects as they were now. but the film is just beginning, and they show how our soldiers are walking, in the heat, tired, sweaty in faded hb, with such facial expressions that you immediately feel that atmosphere of the distant 42-year-old. Soviet artists knew how to play, what to say. Here then, what was the main thing. Well, but what can the current gailers convey from the stage? Yes, at least there will be a thousand special effects, but you won’t watch the movie, hack. Plus, it’s either a commissioner or a special officer with a sadistic face.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 16 June 2020 22: 34 New
    +4
    Quote: Dizel200
    Do you know that there was another instance in the USSR? Films before going to the screen were watched by Stalin and his entourage, as well as Brezhnev and others, and here the bullshit was no longer slipped. Can GDP also do this at lunchtime?

    Who knows - maybe this is what they are doing, because these "masterpieces" appear on the screens? lol
  • serggb
    serggb 16 June 2020 22: 48 New
    +6
    The environment is afraid (!) Of any changes and wants in this way to sit in its "fat" places.
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 June 2020 00: 32 New
      -1
      I am also afraid of change. But everything flows, everything changes (for the worse).
  • alystan
    alystan 17 June 2020 01: 51 New
    0
    The topic raised in the article is very serious and important, and all problems and reasons are indicated. But for some reason there is not a single word about all sorts of “Supervisory and Public Councils,” which in all ministries and departments are like uncut dogs, and which often play an important role and have a strong opinion / word when making important decisions, including distribution of budget money. If it were my will, I would first of all begin to get rid of them. You look at the composition of these tips - whoever is not there and far from the best and most competent representatives of civil society. Perhaps I only generally expressed my vision on this issue, but, nevertheless, I decided to draw the attention of the respected author and concerned participants in the discussion to this aspect.
    1. Old Orc
      Old Orc 17 June 2020 13: 25 New
      0
      All the supervisory and public councils exist for that purpose to write off on them everything that needs to be done, but one does not want to get gray.
  • missile
    missile 17 June 2020 08: 39 New
    -2
    Devastation - the author’s head is also present because he believes that the amendments !!! the Constitution will hinder the development of culture in particular (((
  • missile
    missile 17 June 2020 08: 40 New
    -2
    When shame does not cover the shame
    Yesterday, 15:00 and stupidity with eloquence ((((((- this is to the author (((
  • alexey1213
    alexey1213 17 June 2020 09: 32 New
    +5
    He said a man who, as an officer of the KGB, betrayed this memory. And called betrayal a deal with conscience. Vlasovites want to revive the memory of the Soviet Union a political move to increase their popularity. Memory of the past is stored in books and the right textbooks, and not empty lines in the constitution.
  • AleBors
    AleBors 17 June 2020 09: 35 New
    +3
    A very correct topic was raised by the author. It is high time to call to account all the "creators" with their accomplices. But, in the absence of a coherent ideology in the state, we have what we have.
    GDP periodically says something good in beautiful phrases. It’s just that all this remains with the words. I remember that he even said that he had grown up in an environment where it was customary to answer for words ... Maybe it's time to start doing this?
    1. Old Orc
      Old Orc 17 June 2020 13: 23 New
      +1
      ideology as a gopher. she is not visible but she is. a state cannot exist without ideology. it is more important than any constitution and other pieces of paper. since it is on its basis that decisions are made and made. and if it is not registered, look at the end result. conclusion state ideology of Russia State oligarchic capitalism. The goal is the formation and consolidation of the power of the oligarchy in Russia with the subsequent subjugation of neighboring territories with the suppression or, if it is not possible, the inclusion of the local oligarchy.
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 17 June 2020 16: 04 New
        0
        It is impossible not to agree. But there is article 13 in the Constitution ...
  • Andylw
    Andylw 17 June 2020 11: 21 New
    +8
    is it really not clear that all these attempts to shove the protection of the memory of ancestors, family values, the Russian language, indexing, etc. into the constitution are just a smoke screen for the sake of zeroing Putin’s terms?
    no brainer that all these issues (as amended) are regulated by federal laws and are not related to constitutional norms
    the eternal Putin in power - that’s what all this cat fuss was about!
    1. Wizzzard
      Wizzzard 18 June 2020 01: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: AndyLW
      eternal Putin in power

      Surprises happen. It’s just that Putin didn’t read Bulgakov. Otherwise, you look, and Woland’s words would have sunk into memory:
      - It's not that a person is mortal. The fact is that sometimes he suddenly mortal.
  • slasha
    slasha 17 June 2020 12: 34 New
    +3
    That's right. It is a pity that this (described in the article) is true. They lie to us at every turn, in every call the authorities do not talk at best. And what about the “historical truth” with the draped mausoleum? And (thank God only) silence about the role of the Supreme Commander in Victory? Young people (EGE-shnikov) can still be fooled, but what to do with people who have received Soviet education? Sorry for the Motherland ...
  • Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 17 June 2020 12: 54 New
    +2
    Well, I read the article and comments. And, as one well-known hero of the film "Only Old Men Go to Battle" said: satisfied with the ruins of the Reichstag! In the sense that recently, it just so happened, I came across only the opinion of "approvers." But, fortunately, thinking people, it turns out, is more than enough. Let’s think, colleagues, we are not a herd of sheep, for which the rulers take us. Maybe, of course, my vote will not solve anything, but I will go and vote as I see fit, and not as it should be.
  • Old Orc
    Old Orc 17 June 2020 13: 13 New
    +3
    Here I have deep bewilderment. why is everyone just talking about the distortion of historical memory in the framework of the Great Patriotic War. but how are the distortions fixed now in the history of the USSR, about the fact that nothing was produced in the USSR except galoshes that no one bought, about the golden decade of 90. about the legal privatization of inefficient industries. after all, too much can be brought under the protection of historical memory.
  • Alex66
    Alex66 17 June 2020 13: 45 New
    +1
    It’s hard for Putin - there’s a mess around. and it’s not anyone who can shoot them, they’ll be afraid of the Constitutions, but it’s unlikely that they should be dismissed as 37 officials, then everything will work.
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 17 June 2020 14: 24 New
      -1
      "T-34", "Tanks", "Invincible", "Hitler Kaput", "Burnt by the Sun", "Stalingrad", "Shtrafbat", "Bastards" - you can continue to infinity.
      I remember how grandfathers-veterans were indignant when they watched Soviet films about the war of the 80s and everything seemed fine to us small, I think that today's movie, which is now shocking many with the next generation, will already be regarded as a kind of norm ... The distortion of history and a change in the direction of development in side of the degradation of post-Soviet countries and peoples - this is a strategy that is aimed at several generations !!!
      Actually, it is possible to fight this only by criminally prosecuting personally every author of such a libel - but no one does this ... Therefore, impunity encourages this lawlessness in culture and it only intensifies ...