Is genetics our everything? President Putin's Biological Initiative

Source: hightech.fm

Influenced by a pandemic

The unexpected idea to bring the state of domestic genetics in line with international standards came to the government in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic. This can be considered as one of the answers to the global challenge. The scope of the proposed changes is largely unprecedented. In total, the president formulated eleven instructions, the penultimate of which directly indicates a coronavirus infection. In accordance with it, it is planned to establish research centers,

"Associated with the development of methods and tools for diagnosing a new coronavirus infection (COVID-19), the creation of vaccines for the prevention of this infection, as well as drugs for its treatment."

The COVID-19 pandemic, of course, has become one of the triggers of changes in domestic genetics. Source: vogazeta.ru

But the first commission, as usual, is connected with the most dear to us - with the younger generation. Putin instructed to introduce genetics to schools. And this may well be a problem. The fact is that now the school schedule is so busy for students that any innovations require the exclusion of some discipline from the program. For example, genetics may well be attached instead of astronomy introduced by the ex-Minister of Education Olga Vasilyeva. A couple of years ago, she insisted on isolating this subject from high school physics.

Voices are already being heard that, most likely, genetics will be an optional course in the upper grades of natural science and biomedical profiles. Still, introducing genetics as a compulsory subject for all 10-11 graders will be wrong: the discipline is very specific, and the school biology course already contains many basics of this science.

It can be assumed that in a couple of years in the Unified State Examination on Biology forms the share of genetic tasks will significantly expand, having reduced attention to other sections. With school biology, everything is not as good as we would like. From the fifth to the seventh grades, only one hour per week is provided. Three times more is reserved for foreign languages. It creates a situation where school students are mastering biology at an insufficient level, and here they are trying to "focus" on genetics in high school.

The second important problem for school genetics may be an insufficient material base. If we follow the logic of the president, the emergence of genetics as a new subject should stimulate graduates to enter the relevant faculties, that is, expand the human resources of a strategically important area. But with lessons based on theorizing of educators, many genetic applicants cannot be obtained. Powerful recharge is needed in the form of new-generation laboratory complexes that have yet to be created for school genetics. All this will cost a lot and will require a lot of time. Under the new subject, the government was instructed to create continuing education courses for teachers, which implies a certain restructuring in the teaching of the genetic section, as well as the emergence of new textbooks. One of the centers for retraining will almost certainly be the Sochi educational center Sirius, which operates under the auspices of the Talent and Success educational fund. Now it is the most modern educational center in Russia for schoolchildren and teachers, and with the advent of genetics, even more high-tech equipment will appear in its walls.

We are at the rearguard

They tried to close the initial reduction in Russia's lag in the field of biotechnology even at the time of Prime Minister Medvedev, when in 2019 they adopted the “Federal Scientific and Technical Program for the Development of Genetic Technologies for 2019-2027”. Little is known about the effectiveness of her work: the change of cabinet and the coronavirus arrived in time. A year ago, one of the reasons for the deployment of the programs was the need to combat new infectious diseases and create gene therapy drugs. In this regard, Russia in the global biotechnological market looks very pale. In fact, the only Russian drug for gene therapy is Neovasculgen, which treats leg ischemia. Release it since 2013 and it costs several thousand dollars. For six years, by the time the program was signed, no more drugs for gene therapy had been created in Russia.

Tryptophan, threonine and valine, the vital amino acid feedstuffs in agriculture, are imported by our country in 100% of cases. The situation is simpler with enzymes: the share of imports is 70%. But even here in numbers there is a lot of craftiness. Here, for example, lysine (an essential amino acid) is produced in Russia, and biotechnology companies even send part of their products for export. Unfortunately, there is no question of any autonomy of production. All microorganisms for the synthesis of lysine come from the United States and Europe, the vast majority of the equipment is also imported. Moreover, in Russia, even in principle, there are no competencies for the independent cultivation of genetically modified bacteria of a similar profile. It is not possible to simply propagate purchased strains: after several tens of generations, bacteria simply degenerate. That is, amino acids are partially produced, but when the supply of microorganisms is stopped and there is no import service, everything will stall in a matter of weeks. The situation in the medical field differs from the above unprincipled: all high-tech material resources and consumables (raw materials) are imported.

A bit of surrealism: Rosneft will finance and coordinate genetic research in Russia. Source: vedomosti.ru

The fourth order of the president serves to solve such problems:

"To ensure the creation in the Russian Federation of domestic laboratory and scientific equipment that allows for world-class research in the field of genetic technologies, as well as the production of consumables for it."

In accordance with the order, Prime Minister Mishustin will report on the development of the project for the first time in February 2021 and will continue to report annually.

Genome in the Russian edition

It seems that full-fledged genomic editing will soon come to our country. President Putin has made it clear that it is in this direction that the main stake will be made in the program for raising domestic genetics.

Here at the world level everything is bad again. World leaders, the USA and China, publish several thousand articles in peer-reviewed scientific journals per year. In Russia, less than four hundred for 2016-2017. Three years ago, Russians registered 22 genetics patents. In 2017 alone, there were 9106 patents in the United States, 3477 patents in Japan, 2771 patents in China, 1847 patents in South Korea, and 1097 patents in Germany.

Here a new problem of the biological initiative of the president appears. At this level of Russian genetics, there will simply be nowhere to take teachers and researchers who are able to pull our technology to the world level. Indeed, if no one is particularly engaged in successful practical work, then there will be no one to tell students about this in medical and biological faculties. Again call from abroad? To solve this problem, the government was instructed to study the needs of the industry in highly qualified personnel and draw up a development program.

A negative trend is the localization of all genetic research in government. Despite the very modest representation of Russia in world markets, according to expert estimates, in 2018, teams of 80 scientific and 40 higher education organizations of the country conducted genetic research. The approximate amount of budget funds allocated to finance this area amounted to more than 22 billion rubles! This is the question of the effectiveness of the use of budget funds. At the same time, the program, adopted under Medvedev, mentions about 1 billion dollars that were invested by private investors in genetic startups in the United States from 2013 to 2016.

Unfortunately, in Russia all genetic undertakings will be given to Rosneft and the Kurchatov Scientific Center. In the latter, the “National Base of Genetic Information” will be formed, where gene copies of the ethnic groups of Russia, the animal and plant world will be stored in digitized form. The delegation of management functions to state-owned companies is the fundamental problem of the entire genetic concept.

The Kurchatov Institute National Research Center will become the lead organization in the project “National Genetic Information Base”. Source: nrcki.ru

In our country, there is virtually no market for biotechnological products, as well as genetic engineering products. Remember how we created a persistent negative stereotype on genetically modified products. Any grandmother will give a hundred reasons against GMOs and startle at the mention of the notorious Monsanto Corporation. Nobody buys, so no one produces, and if you suddenly need to, they go abroad. In addition, we still feel the echoes of the Soviet period of persecution of genetics, during which the country was decades behind world science.

Therefore, we have to invent new programs for the breakthrough development of genetics or artificial intelligence with a distant prospect of implementation. Even if we hypothetically allow the successful implementation of part of the provisions of the program, the question remains: who will buy the technology in Russia? With budgetary billions invested, domestic consumption will never pay back even parts of the investment. So, we need to enter foreign markets, which is fraught with a lot of problems. Firstly, no one is waiting for us there: Russia in the world does not associate with genetics and biotechnologies, and all the pieces of the market are already divided. And secondly, now all the leading countries of the world are pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into medical genetics in search of a vaccine from COVID-19 and in the near future the society will receive considerable dividends from this. Technological bonuses from such a race will be comparable with the flight of Gagarin and the American lunar mission. Russia is trying to keep up with global trends, but there is a large share of the probability that all this story will be similar to our main “breakthroughs" of the beginning of the century: Rusnano and Skolkovo.

Comments

[Far B]

As for me, the initiative is about nothing. It was just that during the period of the "coronavirus pandemic" Zero, apparently, thought that any initiative on a medical topic would be in the box office. Only, it seems, again Akela missed. Something he recently began to miss quite often. Earlier, at least I found amphorae, now, it seems, even this is tight.

[Lexus]

Zero, it seemed, it seemed that any initiative on a medical topic would be on hand.

Very similar to throwing a mouse in a trap.

Something he recently often began to miss. I used to find at least amphoras, now it seems, even with this tight.

And I want to seem young, only nature can not be fooled.

[Malyuta]

Quote: lexus

Very similar to throwing a mouse in a trap.

These are rats.

[AUL]

Do you plan to teach nanotechnology at school? Or is there a complete order with this?

[Pilot]

Quote from AUL

Do you plan to teach nanotechnology at school? Or is there a complete order with this?

The main sciences for young people today are skreponemics and Putinomics + food technologies.))

[military_cat]

2017: Russian scientists have created a cure for ebola!
2018: Russian scientists have created a cure for HIV!
2019: Russian scientists have created a cure for cancer!
2020: Russian biotechnology looks very pale, and it will take many years to bridge the gap

And most importantly, no one even pays attention to this anymore, well, think that according to the news, we should have defeated cancer seven times and even AIDS at least six times.

[Deck]

Nifiga you do not understand. Look for ideology. Thoughts on the fate of the country. Under the current government, everything is simple. We read: "Unfortunately, in Russia all genetic undertakings will be given to Rosneft and the Kurchatov Scientific Center" - that is, Chemezov and Kovalchuk. Plus, I am the eldest daughter of Vladimir Putin, Maria Vorontsova, and the Rosneft company will set up a center for genetic research. So, everybody in the house, everybody in the family.

[DVR]

Plus, I am the eldest daughter of Vladimir Putin, Maria Vorontsova

Masha, what have you forgotten here?

[New Year day]

Quote: DVR

Masha, what have you forgotten here?

She studied at the Faculty of Biology and Soil of St. Petersburg State University and at the Faculty of Fundamental Medicine at Moscow State University.
Since classmates declare that "No one has seen Masha Putin here, even though we are on the same course. We have never seen her," then she has some general concepts in biology. Or maybe she was homeschooled for all 5 years?

[DVR]

She studied at the Faculty of Biology and Soil of St. Petersburg State University and at the Faculty of Fundamental Medicine at Moscow State University.
Since classmates declare that "No one has seen Masha Putin here, even though we are on the same course. We have never seen her," then she has some general concepts in biology. Or maybe she was homeschooled for all 5 years?

I do not want to delve into her underwear, she wants to, she will tell everything herself.

[Akuzenka]

Eh, you, the USE generation. The desire to teach "genetics" at school means just another tranche, on an ongoing basis, of money from taxes in the right pockets! And they wrote here ...

[Insurgent]

Is genetics our everything? President Putin's Biological Initiative

But tell me, finally, somebody, the President, that such stupid (I'm not afraid of this definition) "initiatives" bury the remnants of the trust of people, people ...

How long is it possible, over and over again "feeling the bottom", to punch it?

[Akuzenka]

Respected. Under capitalism, greed does not have a bottom. Because capitalism well exploits ONLY animal instincts, then nothing positive is worth the wait.

[Vadim237]

There are 89 quantoriums there about nanotechnology and they tell and show everything else to children.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: lexus

Very similar to throwing a mouse in a trap.

Well no. Just grandfather at a rapid pace falls into childhood. My youngest is now about the same period. I saw something fascinating and immediately wants to start this thing. The Wishlist has not yet grown up to the realization reality of the execution, the guarantor, however, this awareness seems to have already outgrown.

[Svarog]

Russia is trying to keep up with world trends, but there is a large share of probability that this whole story will be similar to our main “breakthroughs” of the beginning of the century: Rusnano and Skolkovo.

So it will be .. no doubt.

[Civil]

"Genetics is the venal wench of imperialism" - as Trofim Denisovich Lysenko used to say. Lysenks are always at the helm of science, so these pensioners will not be able to do anything)) therefore you should not worry)

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Civil

"Genetics is the venal wench of imperialism" - as Trofim Denisovich Lysenko used to say. Lysenks are always at the helm of science, so these pensioners will not be able to do anything)) therefore you should not worry)

And by the way, this is not the first article of the Author about genetics and Lysenko! And how many comments there have already been about Lysenko and his "whistleblowers". Ugh on them!

[apro]

Quote: Civil

"Genetics is the corrupt girl of imperialism" - as Trofim Denisovich Lysenko said

You at least do not say Civil rubbish ...

[Civil]

Quote: apro

Quote: Civil

"Genetics is the corrupt girl of imperialism" - as Trofim Denisovich Lysenko said

You at least do not say Civil rubbish ...

“I have always considered Academician Vavilov a scientist of world importance. [Our disputes were of a purely special nature] and were aimed at clarifying scientific truths in the field of biology. [1]: p.265
- written response to the request of the USSR Chief Military Prosecutor's Office in the Vavilov case, spring 1955 "
Trofim was also a coward.

[Minato2020]

Quote: Civil

Quote: apro

Quote: Civil

"Genetics is the corrupt girl of imperialism" - as Trofim Denisovich Lysenko said

You at least do not say Civil rubbish ...

“I have always considered Academician Vavilov a scientist of world importance. [Our disputes were of a purely special nature] and were aimed at clarifying scientific truths in the field of biology. [1]: p.265
- written response to the request of the USSR Chief Military Prosecutor's Office in the Vavilov case, spring 1955 "
Trofim was also a coward.

And what is wrong?
What did Academician Vavilov pay for - a famous scientist biologist why not write?

Stalin allocated him 200 million in gold, so that he would raise the average grain yield from the then 10-15 centners from a hectare to 30 hectares.
Vavilov spent all this money on expeditions around the world to collect samples of grain seeds.
In order to study them.
The result is zero. That is, productivity has not increased.
He did not fulfill Stalin's task of raising productivity.
Stalin regarded this as sabotage.
The consequences for Vavilov were quite predictable.

At the same time, Academician Lysenko, who has now been repeatedly cursed as a charlatan, with his "charlatan" methods, has managed to raise the yield to 30 centners / ha and higher.
And for quite ridiculous money.
And received for this an increase in salary plus Stalin's prizes.

By the way: now scientists are finding more and more evidence that, in spite of the axioms of genetics, acquired characters can be inherited in a number of cases.
The mechanism of this is not clear. There is speculation that long-term brain memory accumulates in RNA.
Apparently, somehow, these RNAs penetrate the genome and modify it.

So, it is possible that Lysenko, who was repeatedly cursed and branded as a charlatan, was not a charlatan at all.
Simply, he was far ahead of the then possibilities of science.
Well then, in every laboratory there were no electron microscopes, centrifuges, and accumulated statistically processed materials, as now.

[astepanov]

The results of Lysenko's "discoveries" are well known. He did not receive any increases in the grain yield, all of these were postscripts. But thanks to his activities, a lot of excellent land was destroyed and littered. And the fact that he had a hand in the destruction of genetics is a fact. Read his speech at the VASKHNIL session, after which the defeat in genetics began ...
And - about the yield: until 1956, the average grain yield in the USSR did not exceed 10 centners / ha, and you are talking about some 30 ... Search the Web for the keywords "Grain yield in the USSR by years." Maybe my eyes will open. By the way, I remember how in 73 in the Saratov region the chairmen of collective farms of the Order of Lenin were given 24 centners per hectare ...
Well, what about the inheritance of acquired characteristics is that you tell your children at the New Year's party. Have fun offspring.

[Minato2020]

Read his speech at the session of the All-Union Agricultural Academy, after which the defeat in genetics began ...

It was not possible to find a speech at the session after which the "rout" began.
Can you share a link?

That is, you say that Lysenko gave the go-ahead to destroy competitors?

"... In general, I would ask my opponents, for the general benefit, to try to quote Lysenko and Prezent not from their memory, which sometimes cheats on them, but from our works. This will be more true and closer to the actual state of affairs ..."
Lysenko T.D. About two directions in genetics //
Agrobiology. Work on genetics, selection and seed production.
Ed. 6th .-- Moscow: Selkhozgiz, 1952 - p. 195.

the inheritance of acquired traits is you tell your children at the New Year's party ...

Well, that is, tomatoes with an acquired reptile gene, is it like not inheriting acquired properties?

[New Year day]

Quote: Civil

"Genetics is the venal wench of imperialism" - as Trofim Denisovich Lysenko used to say.

therefore we are behind in this direction

Quote: Civil

..so these pensioners will not succeed)) therefore it is not worth worrying)

I agree with that. You can’t take the problem of longevity with an emergency.

[Minato2020]

Quote: Civil

"Genetics is the venal wench of imperialism" - as Trofim Denisovich Lysenko used to say.
Lysenko is always at the helm of science, so these pensioners will not succeed)) therefore it’s not worth worrying)

Is this quote documented? Or another myth?

Quotes from the Internet
1.
"... I hate version gossip ..."
V.S. Vysotsky

2.
"...In general, I would ask my opponents, for the common good, to try to quote Lysenko and Present not from my memory, which sometimes cheats on them, but from our work. This will be more true and closer to the actual state of affairs ... "
Lysenko T.D. About two directions in genetics //
Agrobiology. Work on genetics, selection and seed production.
Ed. 6th .-- Moscow: Selkhozgiz, 1952 - p. 195.

[polar fox]

Quote: Dalny V

Only, surrenders, again Akela missed.

Yes, he looks more like Tobacco ...

[snake]

Quote: Dalny V

Something he recently often began to miss.

Not really. You do not understand the main point:

A bit of surrealism: Rosneft will finance and coordinate genetic research in Russia.

Or so:

[New Year day]

Quote: Dalny V

As for me, the initiative is about nothing.

you're not right! Genetics, in this case, is designed to solve the problem of longevity of one person. That is why the theme is supervised by his daughter. Control and financial support - Sechin

[Minato2020]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Dalny V

As for me, the initiative is about nothing.

You're not right! Genetics, in this case, is designed to solve the problem of longevity of one person. That is why the theme is supervised by his daughter. Control and financial support - Sechin

Genetics in this case is designed to solve the problems of identifying defective genes in the early stages and the possibility of adjusting the genome with heredity.
For problems of longevity, gerontology exists - it is a science that studies the aging process.
As a science, it arose about a hundred years ago and in recent decades has been developing at an accelerated pace.
Not yet taught at school.

[astepanov]

There are a lot of oddities here. For example, why do we need professional geneticists under the current legislation? The law, for example, does not prohibit the use of GMOs, but prohibits production. Bottom line: GMOs are massively imported into Russia, which kills the competitiveness of our agricultural producers and biotechnologists. Our "partners" will take it into their heads to ban the import of insulin to us (and it is entirely GMO) by way of sanctions, and 9 million of our fellow citizens will throw their hooves back. Who pushed through the laws in the interests of foreign manufacturers? Who is endlessly lying about the dangers of GMOs? Compare the average life expectancy in Japan and the USA, where GMOs are eaten incessantly, and in our country, and it will be clear that they are lying to us.
And why does genetics need to replace the most important worldview discipline - astronomy? In the school curriculum, nonsense is above the roof, which can be thrown out without damage.
Finally, it is clear that the RAS will again be bypassed. It seems to me that they will make a separate desk in the manner of Skolkovo, and put either Dmitry Anatolyich's light or the cosmonaut's best friend Rogozin to be fed there, when he will cope with the task of finally zeroing Roscosmos. How tired of all this!

[The leader of the Redskins]

I do not know. When I read and listen to such instructions, I often remember fairy tales - "Emelya", "Goldfish" ...
He ordered it there, and in the morning everything was ready! And we, alas, are not a fairy tale ... We have life. And a wave of a magic wand does not get off. We need personnel, we need equipment, to hell with him, sometimes you need to buy or steal technology, so that at least not be left behind!
Many of the above are either not, or at the wrong level. So you won’t be fed up with decrees alone ...

[Grandfather]

in the absence of a domestic element base, a cart is obtained in front of the horse. To decrypt DNA, there is nothing of its own, everything is American. Alas.

[Ryaruav]

it is planned to create research centers - well, according to tradition, to put Chubais over all this, or even Skvortsov will do

[Same lech]

planned to establish research centers

Is Skolkovo really small? ... Where is the tangible result of this center of scientific achievements ... how many years have passed since the creation and almost a bunch of output.

[depressant]

In this regard, I remembered about Skolkovo - the brainchild of Medvedev. With what fanfare it was opened. It was funny. From my dead corner of Moscow Region, I immediately saw that the exhaust would be weak. And so it happened. And this is very bad when money is not investors, but the state. The hourly investor will ask about the result, the official - how much money has been spent. In our irresponsible conditions - how much was stolen. With Skolkovo money scandals are connected. Meanwhile, there, in Skolkovo, in the field of biotechnology, a wonderful scientist Konstantin Severinov works, but for two houses - the United States and Russia. Apparently, even in a public institution there is no equipment sufficient for research. Severinova sorry.

[Jager]

So it was created for PR and cutting.

[Vadim237]

Skolkovo is a territory with special business conditions where already existing companies come there and start-ups start there all in more than 2000 in 2019, the output of these companies amounted to 83 billion rubles with 18 billion private investments.

[Charik]

result in offshore and chubrik pocket

[Vadim237]

The result is the owners of companies and in the budget of Russia.

[Same lech]

Three years ago, Russians registered 22 genetics patents.

Mother mom this is the level of patent science in our country ... by the amount of protection of our patents we can judge the country's place in the world of inventions ... the country is deeply stuck.
Since the times of Vavilov, it’s not very good with genetics ... we lag behind in many sectors of the national economy.

[Grandfather]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

My dear mother, this is the level of patent science in our country ... by the number of protection of its patents, one can judge the country's place in the world of inventions ... the country is deeply stuck.

Dak EGEshnikov Chota not illuminate ideas ...

[Same lech]

To enlighten ideas, freedom of thought is needed ... a flight of imagination and a desire to realize them at any cost ... in our country, everything is done through resistance to external circumstances ...
A person has invented something, but it is necessary to patent ... and to patent, you need a lot of money ... In the USA, the patent system is worked out to the smallest detail ... Americans row and appropriate other people's inventions from around the world ... luring inventors from other countries with the help of sweet promises .
In this regard, the recent flogging of Pavel Durov in the USA is indicative ... they threw him there as the last fryer.

[Vadim237]

36000 rubles worth a technology patent - is this big money?

[Beringovsky]

It’s just right for our state to start paying extra money for patents to inventors, and not to tear them off.
Otherwise, soon they will be completely gone, no inventors or patents.

[AUL]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Since the times of Vavilov, we have not been very good with genetics ...

So after all "genetics is a pseudoscience, and genetic scientists are parasites and fly lovers!" And cybernetics is the corrupt girl of imperialism.

[tatra]

And that the enemies of the communists 30 years after the seizure of Russia were not enough to do genetics? Put everything on the USSR, as your benefactor Putin dumped the responsibility for the economy you created - on the USSR in his "fiery speech" about "galoshes".

[Jager]

So this "national" economy has been gone for 30 years already ...

[Vadim237]

This national economy never existed - and everything that belonged to the leadership of the USSR, as it decides to dispose of, so it will be, as it decides to do so and will do so - and it was impossible to express dissatisfaction with politics and economics, well, except in the "kitchen" - and no one expressed it, everyone was silent in a rag for the time being until publicity came there and threw out everything that had accumulated.

[Beringovsky]

Quote: Vadim237

This national economy never happened - and all that belonged to the leadership of the USSR ...

Maybe it’s enough here to carry the blizzard of the level of a 12-year-old teenager or a fashionable, creative blochger with a glass of smoothie?
As it is already not even funny such "passages".

[Vadim237]

True, it always hurts your eyes - you and all the rest built these enterprises - built money for you and paid everyone for work - paid like all the other workers all over the USSR, others came and left - all your property from this is what you were paid - everything else It belonged to the state in the person of the top of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union to you and everyone else paid your.

[Minato2020]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Since the times of Vavilov, it’s not very good with genetics ... we lag behind in many sectors of the national economy.

And what - Vavilov was engaged in genetics? Did he have electron microscopes for research?
In fact, the processes against geneticists began when the plans announced by the Serebrovsky-Vavilov group to develop new varieties in the five-year plan of 1932-1937 were not fulfilled.
You can, of course, understand desire by the apt expression of Academician P.L. Kapitsa satisfy their curiosity at the expense of the state (what is called "misuse of budget funds",
incidentally, with appropriate administrative or criminal liability).
Not to mention the introduction of these "satisfied curiosities", or rather, their absence.
These designated comrades satisfied their “genetic” or “botanical” curiosities in experiments and trips around the world. But there is no practical result.
As a result, Stalin regarded Vavilov’s actions as sabotage, sabotage and squandering of state money. Under Stalin, they didn’t put under house arrest - such were the times.

http://actualhistory.ru/myth-lysenko

[Dimy4]

In accordance with it, it is planned to establish research centers ...

They will deliver the leadership of Chubais, the effect will be 200%, they will only give one medal.

[depressant]

Especially considering how Chubais mastered the production of solar panels. Together with the Chinese. Like a medal! While Chubais was calving, motivating the slowness of calving by the absence of a scientific school and precedents in this kind of construction, the Chinese understood who they were dealing with and spat on Chubais’s reflection. Quickly glancing around, they registered several enterprises in their homeland, joined the ranks of Russian sorcerer bureaucrats, and now, building on the experience of the rapidly developing Chinese scientific school from scratch, they are building panels in our own factories prohibiting the sale of products in our territory.

[Vadim237]

He will not be delivered, he has now received the post of vice president of AFK Sistema, the largest investor in the real sector of the Russian economy.

[rocket757]

The unexpected idea to bring the state of domestic genetics in line with international standards came to the government in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic. It can be considered as

In general, then, the Schaub horse could SOUL, it also needs to be fed !!! She is not touched and will not add strength, the kind of "owner" devouring everything, sho she worked out ..... the owner woke up when the horse's ribs bulge out or she soaped herself to the neighbor .... the question is, did he come to himself ??? it’s too painful for the owner, his friends-desires, to eat deliciously, too much ...

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

.... does not touch and does not add strength, the kind of "owner" devouring everything, sho she worked out ..... the owner regained consciousness when the horse's ribs bulge out or she soaped herself to a neighbor .... the question is, did he regain consciousness? ?? ........

Good afternoon, Victor! Here it remains only to recall the achievements of Soviet science under I.V. Stalin in the field of biology, agronomy and genetics, as well as the fight against infections (the success of vaccinations and vaccines), and then what happened with corn

[rocket757]

Hi Dmitry
We will not idealize everything and everything ... in the period of the formation and development of Soviet power, we had to devote a lot of time, money, to the development of science, for various reasons. There was not a small leap, there were different oddities.
We must remember and .... evaluate like this, hastily, we will not. The topic is deep, complex, let’s say, a lot of things developed in the country then. The authorities of the country paid a lot of attention to this and helped, directed and ....

[Reptiloid]

Somehow I don’t really understand you Victor? In my opinion, then everything is clear and all ++++++ there were no epidemics for a long time.
But after the 90s .... became that horse, in your opinion, feed delay and hinder

[rocket757]

Dmitry, the topic is complicated.
Soviet power developed / restored science, because after the revolution and civilian there were tangible losses in everything. It was a difficult recovery period.
But, after all, there were different events in this area and all of them were called necessary, correct, this does not work. Those. I do not share the story, in black / white, it is all important.
That's it.
My advice is not to create IDOLS for yourself and not to impose them on others. Only objective assessments ... so there will be fewer mistakes and the prospects more reliable, reasonable.
About now, i.e. after 90 x, I write as it is, then what is in sight ... I rely on different sources of information.

[Reptiloid]

....... the topic is complicated ......

thought, thought .... it is probably worth agreeing with the words of the author at the end of the article ....
Probably, in any case, the liberals will try to make their way only for their own benefit and for nothing more.

[rocket757]

There are not many people who try only for others ... it is already normal if a person tries not only for himself.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

There are not many people who try only for others ... it is already normal if a person tries not only for himself.

Victor, trying for yourself, you, or I, like many other residents of our country --- work more. At the same time, conscientiously and carefully performing our work ----- we benefit others, organizations, etc. ... ....
Someone ----- trying to get into someone else’s pocket.

[rocket757]

Dmitry, good morning
In my opinion, it is necessary to separate human activities. It’s just working, good, but it’s a necessity, everything.
To devote a lot of time to socially significant work, to the benefit of the whole society, specific people, is somewhat different. Such people are usually called public figures.
And so and so it is necessary, significant and important, but it’s different.

[Reptiloid]

Good morning Victor !
Not all people have the opportunity and ability to engage in social activities .. It happens.
After all, the assessment of labor begins with a professional one. In their old, quite old films, sometimes "social activists" are shown with humor.
And now there is social activity, not only useless, but also harmful even sometimes ........
Until the evening, run away ......

[rocket757]

Quote: Reptiloid

In their old, quite old films, sometimes "social activists" are shown with humor.

But real public men do not care at all, except for the benefits they bring to others!

Quote: Reptiloid

And now there is social activity, not only useless, but also harmful even sometimes ........

This is the CHOICE of everyone, but you need to look back at the laws of the state and society in which you live. This is normal.

[Jager]

The corncruiser also did a lot of useful things.

[Minato2020]

Quote: Jager

The corncruiser also did a lot of useful things.

Let Bandera free?
https://topwar.ru/165654-zachem-hruschev-amnistiroval-banderovcev-i-vlasovcev.html

[Sergej1972]

In 1955, this was supported by Bulganin, Voroshilov, Molotov, Malenkov, Kaganovich, Mikoyan, Suslov, that is, the most influential members of the Presidium of the Central Committee. They had no objection. In 1955 there was still a truly collective leadership.

[Minato2020]

... Bulganin, Voroshilov, Molotov, Malenkov, Kaganovich, Mikoyan, Suslov, that is, the most influential members of the Presidium of the Central Committee. They had no objection ...

As a result, members of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee betrayed the gains of socialism by concluding an agreement with the US State Department regarding the lunar scam

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Throwing from side to side ... not understanding what the citizens of our state need leads to the fact that the authorities, as noted by the author, are trying to keep up with the world TRENDS, and not to achieve concrete practical results on their own in a particular scientific field, and most importantly, bring it to real production. Production is not FOR EXPORT, but primarily for their own needs, let it be more expensive, but their own. True, I have doubts about the statements that "there" in the world market "cherries are cheaper than those on my site"
We have positive examples - for example, hypersound, and this is not a trend - the hypersound trend arose by the way after the showing of "cartoons" and the need of the Russian Federation to reduce the "aggressive ardor" of our western and eastern "partners" ...

[Boris55]

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

the authorities, as the author noted, are trying to keep up with world TRENDS, and not achieve concrete practical results on their own

Welcome.

US launched a biological war with the whole world to reduce population? Speed, Ebola, bird and swine flu, etc., now here is kronovirus ... Our country is surrounded by military biological laboratories: in Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltic states ... Our government cannot but respond to all this and it is responding.

And to all ill-wishers:
I don’t like the fact that we have killed so few people with the corn virus? Do not like that we invented our vaccine, but did not want to buy a foreign and feed them bourgeois? I do not want to think that you think so. We all live in Russia and we need to separate flies from cutlets ...

Is it not the merit of the state that we practically did not notice all these biological attacks on us?

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Good morning!
I see, but I see not only enemy laboratories and the desire of a handful of people to control everything in this world, but I also see a decrease in the number of people in Russia, and new graves in the cemetery with the names of people who have not lived to 60. Maybe we are already under biological attack, we just don’t want to talk about it ... The current pandemic clearly shows that our current state is not ready for such phenomena. We have people who can quickly create an "antidote", we have an army ready to rush to hell on orders, but we do not have people in the power to anticipate and avert the threat from our home in advance. Our current government is the "PLAYER in the global economy", not the "OWNER in the house". So we live by the principle - "until the rooster crows, we do not move" !!!! Therefore, I wrote about throwing from side to side.

[Boris55]

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

Our current government is a "PLAYER in the globalist economy", not "OWNER in the house"

What is a state and its personifying authority:

"State policy and management in a crowd-" elite "society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings in using the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals."

Amendments to the Constitution, those proposed by Putin, and not those that approved the EP (zeroing, etc.) and adopted the Law, which will enter or not enter into force after our approval or not (full text of the Law on the president’s website: http: //www.kremlin.ru/acts/news/62988), significantly limit the part of clan-corporate groups in which the sun rises in the West. It is for this reason that they are yelling obscenely that we would not go to the polls and vote for immediate entry into force of the law.

Before that, there were other tasks. Now is the time to gain sovereignty. It is time to replace the PLAYERS with the OWNERS. The current government is formed 50/50, as Putin said - balanced and it has successfully passed the test of kronovirus. After the adoption of its amendments, not only the government, but also the Duma will begin to work more for the interests of the country.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Dear Boris. I don't know who you are by education and what experience you have in participating in government activities, but what you wrote to me looks very, very unconvincing. No one will change the PLAYERS for the OWNER IN THE HOUSE (not the business executives, namely the owner in the house - in the good sense of this phrase). All this mess with a change in the Constitution will not change anything. The current ruling elite should go down in history, giving way to new people, even if they are followers - it doesn't matter. Putin has done a lot for Russia and has not done a lot, because he could not for a number of reasons (no matter objective or subjective), the innovative potential of Putin, as President, has been exhausted, "marking time" begins - stagnation ... Therefore, I personally consider Putin to the "overripe President", but Putin still has political potential, but in order not to "burn" this potential, it is necessary to leave the presidency. BUT ..... Putin, not even Yeltsin - even "WON'T LEAVE" ("Won't go away" is not a typo). Therefore, we still have to observe "the overripe fruit on the highest branch of the tree, until this fruit decays and falls off ... but from the overripe and decayed fruit, a sprout will never appear on the branch and a new tree will not grow."

[Boris55]

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

the innovative potential of Putin, as President, has been exhausted,

I do not think so.
What did you do:
- did not let Russia fall into souvenir states;
- ensured the country's defense capability;
- raised agricultural, fed people;
- raised the prestige of Russia in the international arena (Syria);

What to do:
in the process - gain real sovereignty (constitutional, financial);
it remains to make the country the most advanced in the world, and the life of citizens prosperous.

To carry out the Constitutional reform, he worked hard and much more remains to be done. Whoever says anything, and our life, in spite of internal and external influences, is getting better. They don’t look for good from good

[Boris55]

ps
If together with him we can carry out constitutional changes, we can carry out a financial one, the ultimate goal of which is to make the ruble a world convertible currency. The presence of natural wealth, this allows us. Why did you decide that he could not do this?

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Dear Boris. I have a slightly different scale and graduation according to Putin.
1. Stabilized the relationship between capital and power on the foundation laid down by Yeltsin for globalization and the creation of Russia exclusively raw material element of the global economic system. Until 2008, this was relevant and significant for Russia; it was this compromising policy that helped to save our country from territorial disintegration. This was done by strengthening the role of the state, over business. That is, what Yeltsin advocated.
2. He stopped military operations in the North Caucasus, but decided this only by military means.
3. Made internationally respect Russia as a strong MILITARY power.
4. The rearmament of the army began, but this is more likely not the merit of Putin, but a defensive reaction to the state of the army during the 2008 war.
5. Joined Crimea - 2014.
Crimea was the last thing Putin did for Russia .... then throwing started from side to side.

[Boris55]

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

Stabilized the relationship between capital and power on the basis laid down by Yeltsin

Something quite a while ago I did not hear about the seven-boyars, when the alegarchs opened the door to the president’s office with their foot.

There are no others, but those that are are far

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

from Russia exclusively an element of the global economic system.

The first thing Putin did was to revise the agreements in the oil and gas sector (Sakhalin-1, Sakhalin-2), which made it possible to fill the budget and begin to fulfill the social obligations of the state to citizens.

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

He stopped the fighting in the North Caucasus, but decided it only by military means.

How do you propose solving the issue of terrorists blowing up houses, buses and the metro? Terrorism is an irregular army of capitalists (USA) who solve their problems by other means.

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

Made internationally respect Russia as a strong MILITARY power.

With the strong - agree. Weak - dictate their will. Only by feeding people and protecting the state can we proceed to the solution of the issue of sovereignty.

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

and a defensive reaction to the state of the army during the 2008 war.

This is an occasion to engage in rearmament when the country was led by the traitor Medvedev, when he, as the supreme commander in chief, withdrew from solving this issue - in fact, he did not give a damn about the death of our peacekeepers.

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

Crimea was the last thing Putin did for Russia.

Bury early. He is still 4 years to steer. And after Crimea there is Syria.

In general, I see only positive points.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

It is bad to be blind and not to see the Rotenbergs, Sechenykhs, Grefs, and the number of these "successful managers - billionaires" grew even during the pandemic, probably on social payments from the sale of raw materials ... and Patanin and Abramovich did not go anywhere.
About the raw materials appendage - only you do not believe))))
Agree with the strong - your words. So why the US and others withdraw from the treaties and do not want to negotiate with us? So, following your logic, Boris, you think Russia is weak ...
About the 2008 war - "... it's not me, it's Medvedev !!!!" STUPIDITY !!!
Terrorism is a coronavirus, terrorism is a local contagion ... We still have gangs of local terrorists in the mountains and our guys are dying from their bullets ... well, at least the bulk of these terrorists turned away ... Especially for you, Boris , members of terrorist groups are mainly from 16 to 30 years old ... do not have time to live longer, but these small gangs do not disappear, drawing in young people. Even at all levels, it was recognized that it is not religious fanaticism that is attractive for terrorist gangs, but money that allows a family to live normally, and social payments from oil and gas do not attract a normal life ... Already now, the terrorist underground is being fought primarily by economic methods and only as a last resort "liquidation" ...
Putin is "overripe" and is no longer capable of accelerating the country's development ....

[Boris55]

Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal

Putin is "overripe" and is no longer capable of accelerating the country's development ....

You have not answered my question:

If together with him we can carry out constitutional changes, we can carry out a financial one, the ultimate goal of which is to make the ruble a world convertible currency. The presence of natural wealth, this allows us. Why did you decide that he could not do this?

Thanks to the current Constitution, our country is a colony, no matter what the president’s name is, there is no need to talk about any changes for the better. Today, international law is a priority for us. Presidential changes to the Constitution are the first step in the right direction. Only after gaining independence can we begin to live our own way. Why do you insist that the West should continue to command us, hoping for a new one, which will also be limited in its actions by the colonial Constitution?

ps
The president is not a king. He can do a lot, but not all.

[Sergej1972]

Objectively speaking, Boris does not have a small population of the Russian Federation, but it is excessive in many countries of the world. Speaking for the growth of the population of the Russian Federation, for example, I am completely not opposed to its restrictions in many other countries. It seems to me that you should not worry so much about birth control programs in Asia and Africa. This is their problem. And honestly, I do not see the point in the continuous growth of the Earth’s population. Why is it needed?

[Boris55]

Quote: Sergej1972

I do not see the point in the continuous growth of the population of the Earth.

The natives who ate Cook have lived on the islands of Indonesia for many millennia and do not suffer from overpopulation. Overpopulation is a product of capitalism, when people have become the object of a resource, the same as oil, gas, coal, etc. With the normal development of society, there can be no overpopulation. Yes, and someone has calculated that if the entire population of the Earth is placed standing to each other, then it will not go beyond the ring road, incl. "overpopulation" is a lie.

[Sergej1972]

Yes, in any situation, too large a population is not needed. The anthropogenic pressure on nature is already too great. There should be a place on the ground for animals and plants.

[Minato2020]

Quote: Sergej1972

Yes, in any situation, too large a population is not needed. The anthropogenic pressure on nature is already too great. There should be a place on the ground for animals and plants.

N. Berdyaev, V. Vernadsky, G. Gurdjieff would not agree with such a formulation of the question.

An increase in population leads to an increase in the noosphere and biosphere.
At the time described in Mahabharat, at least 23 billion people lived on the planet according to researchers. The war that destroyed both dynasties did not occur due to overpopulation, but was imposed from without.

[Jager]

Do not be so nervous, it is better to turn on Solovyov TV and do not forget to put on a cap of foil.

[Minato2020]

A foil hat will not help. We need to move to a new level.

[Ragnar Lodbrok]

leading countries of the world pour hundreds of billions of dollars in search of a vaccine from COVID-19 and in the near future the society will receive considerable dividends from this

Corrected - the leading pharmaceutical corporations in the world will receive considerable dividends.

bonuses from such a race will be comparable to the flight of Gagarin and the American lunar mission

Yes, fullness ... Why so much pathos.

[carstorm 11]

Lord ... even in such a topic, comments again, Putin is such a Putin ... and on the topic there is something to say to the fighters with the regime?) Everything in the subject is by the foot but it’s necessary to mark pancake on each branch.

[Same lech]

Putin again is such a Putin

You are not right...
Putin was ... Putin is ... Putin will always be ... his name is inscribed in the history of Russia in gold letters.

[Same lech]

You see ... I repeated Putin three times and immediately went reaction ... oh people ... people how easy it is to breed you.

[Dimy4]

We say Putin, we mean, uh ... But what do we mean? (We say Lenin, we mean the party. The original.) But what is inscribed is for sure. As the name of anyone, even a rogue who has visited the Moscow throne, is written, Grishka Otrepiev (False Dmitry I), for example.

[Far B]

Putin was, Putin is, Putin will be!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: carstorm 11

everything in the subject is not a tooth's foot but it’s necessary to mark pancake on each branch.

I'm in the subject with a tooth kick! We studied genetics in one of the sections of biology! Or chemistry, forgot already ...

[Oleg Skvortsov]

Do you think that someone from Rosneft with Sechin at the head will study it? For the first year, 200 million dollars from the budget, and 1 billion dollars for the "study". The main thing is to properly master the budget money, and with this, the current effective milkers have always been good

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

but THAT'S NOT RIGHT !!!! I am a member of the CPSU and, fulfilling the unanimous decision of the Soviet people, "kicked in the teeth" of bourgeois genetics, and in order not to confuse a Western geneticist with a socialist gynecologist - "you need to know the enemy by sight" ... But those days have passed and very well that now the majority remembers "Akinfeev's leg", and not "Stalin's fist" ... Although for some people, well, you know who, now the term is suitable - "....... finger" - to threaten with a finger and no more A finger is not a foot, you can’t hit it with a finger ... it’s convenient to use your finger to either poke your teeth or squint your eyes at threatening ...

[depressant]

Vitaly Tsimbal, I don't remember "Akinfeev's leg", I don't even know that such a thing exists, but I remember well the dock for "Admiral Kuznetsov". The dock that sank. It belonged to Rosneft, didn't it? And Rosneft is Sechin. Such a master! Here he will raise your genetics! Will come and raise. And now I am wondering what the consequences of the coming crushing upswing will cost the country.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

So I'm talking about the same ....

[Karabin]

Quote: depressant

I don't remember "Akinfeev's leg"

Well then !? This is not much that 2018 pleased us

[depressant]

A colleague, I only know about Akinfeev that he is a football player. I hope you excuse me - I'm not a cheerleader)))

[Karabin]

Quote: depressant

I hope you excuse me - I'm not a cheerleader)))

No need to apologize. And the leg is whoever is, the leg. (C) [media = http: // https: //youtu.be/S6JUDCwF1i8]

[Vadim237]

The dock has worked its 40 years - "Rosneft is Sechin" and Sechin that he personally should run with a defectoscope and check the wear and tear of all Rosneft's fixed assets? For this, everywhere there are people at each facility who are specially engaged in this and compile a report.

[depressant]

Vadim, but you understand what a pop is, such is a parish. You are an entrepreneur yourself, and you probably have well-functioning enterprises. By the way, you once said that you were going to have a barn. Hope it worked out?

[Vadim237]

Two are already available in the Volgograd and Astrakhan regions, the third one will be launched in the Moscow Region in a month and a half, investments will be made from me - from the organizers. There is also a foundry and production of plasma spraying machines - they promise to launch it at the end of summer.

[depressant]

I’m glad that everything worked out for you))) Just keep in mind that different useful supplements and vitamins are needed for cows in feed. So there will be something for you to do in the future - just on the topic of the article))) If only our wonderful bureaucrats would not interfere. And then the President’s Wishlist is one thing, and the bureaucrat’s job description is just the opposite.

[Vadim237]

Feed is not my problem, I am not involved in their production.

[depressant]

Vadim, you will soon find that you have to. Feed your cows, and the market is extremely promising))

[Doccor18]

I read and was surprised. No, genetics is certainly very important, but as a separate subject at school ..... What happens is the basics of Orthodoxy, rhythm, rhetoric, and now also genetics. Lord rulers! Have you traveled outside the Garden Ring for a long time? In every school there is a lack of teaching staff in the main subjects: mathematics, chemistry, English and German. You will not find physicists at all during the day with fire. There are almost no biologists left. What genetics?

[Ragnar Lodbrok]

Absolutely, there’s nothing to add. They are terribly far from the people.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Doccor18

What genetics?

On the initiative of the President of the Russian Federation, "brought into compliance with international standards"

[Doccor18]

Science begins at school. A school without a teacher, like a family without a mother. And there are less teachers from year to year. Young people do not go to school. The hardest, thankless and low paid work.
The prestige of the school must be raised in the media, the prestige of the teacher, the prestige of knowledge! And in our country, the media is promoting the prestige of majority and wealth.
But genetics will not appear from the fact that the president signed the decree.
Especially world-class ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Doccor18

Science begins at school.

Quote: Doccor18

genetics will not appear from the fact that the president signed the decree.

So I am the same. Obviously you did not see in my commentary a share of sarcasm in relation to such an initiative ...

[Doccor18]

did not see in my comment a share of sarcasm

I didn’t see it.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Doccor18

I didn’t see it.

Okay , although sarcasm is not a gopher, but it was / is ...

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

What are you doing !!!! Do not watch telly. Well in the midst of a pandemic for the Garden Ring will climb out without a mandate Sobyanin .... fined. Right now, in our schools, students are so advanced ... in preparing children for entering universities, from which very good sellers and security guards are obtained But seriously, I completely agree with you, I agree .... I don’t put any pluses, since I don’t play the pros or cons, it’s better to say a word in the similarity of opinions than with an echo icon !!!

[Malyuta]

Quote: Doccor18

You will not find physicists at all during the day with fire. There are almost no biologists left. What genetics?

Evil languages ​​claim that the introduction of genetics into life on budget money will be a certain Mrs. Tikhonova, who is also the daughter of the chief commander.

[Jager]

There is its own Russia behind the fences.

[Dimy4]

These are the tasks that future luminaries in genetics will solve.

[military_cat]

Very good tasks.

[Insurgent]

Quote: military_cat

Very good tasks.

Edak Cheburashka, during the implementation of the presidential initiative, is married to Chupacabra

Clearly a fairy tale, but a hint in it ...

[Minato2020]

Quote: military_cat

Very good tasks.

The task does not take into account the laws of Rita.
Therefore, the answer will be incomplete.

[military_cat]

Quote: Minato2020

The task does not take into account the laws of Rita.

This is some kind of pseudoscience, contradicting genetics.

[Minato2020]

This is some kind of pseudoscience, contradicting genetics.

This is not a science, but the laws of inheritance, which are directly related to genetics.

[Doccor18]

If only Mother Cheburashkin not to see in a dream.

[Malyuta]

Quote: Doccor18

If only Mother Cheburashkin not to see in a dream.

[parusnik]

The cadres decide everything ... and where are the cadres ... The cadres still have to have a salary ... And the next, a friend works in this area, said that the order of the Ministry of Education allegedly went out, not to put two to students .... True, really, I don’t know .. Now parents will still be involved in genetics, help children do assignments in this subject ...

[Vadim237]

Where to get staff - well, probably in 13 institutes dealing with biology and medicine available in Russia.

[New Year day]

Quote: parusnik

Cadres decide everything ... and where are they cadres ...

Stalin solved the personnel issue in his own way

and there was a result.
Since now the personnel issue is being resolved by personal assessments and family ties, then the money will not help here - fill in, but there will be a donut hole at the exit.

[populist]

Putin instructed to introduce genetics to schools. And this may well be a problem. The fact is that now the curriculum is so busy for students ...

From the fall of the rating, it became very bad with mental abilities.
It would be better to teach some rooks starlings to fly ...
Or he caught big, big minnows in a pond.
All harm would be less.

[ZaharoFF]

Even if we hypothetically allow the successful implementation of part of the provisions of the program, the question remains: who will buy the technology in Russia? With budgetary billions invested, domestic consumption will never pay back even parts of the investment.

Who cares? The main thing is to cut the allocated budget - then at least a flood.

[Mikhail m]

Again, as in almost everything, we get into the position of a catch-up who will never catch up and will not even approach the leader, because he does not stand still. But to develop and implement your own, which has no analogues in the world, is not a task. Although no, Rusnano remembered that there are definitely no analogues.

[unaha]

Such initiatives do not cause anything but laughter. At one of the farm enterprises, a friend does not work in recent positions. All (i.e. 100%) of the starting materials for even the simplest tablets are import. And this situation is not only in this one enterprise, it is everywhere.

[samarin1969]

Thanks to the editorial staff and the author for the article. The information stands out among dozens of similar "opinions" with "talking" numbers, comparative analysis, style.
The school course "genetics" is complete nonsense. In the 10th grade, this section is already deeply studied. The curriculum is already overloaded with secondary courses that no one teaches at all: billions - "down the drain."
But the author's "export pessimism" is a little surprising. There are national security issues. Decent countries support very prosaic areas: agriculture, mass sports, arms factories. Your "genetic Lada" needs to be maintained.
Is it not a specific and useful task to increase the localization of the same amino acids? This is, of course, more difficult than mastering the next "Olympiad" - "gene bank of ethnic groups" !! ... an obscure goal with a dubious result. They will show test tubes with "something", a closed area, mountains of imported equipment and proudly call it "the national genetic bank". That's the whole "certificate of completion".

[Jager]

Mass sport ... is already funny. The only pool in the city, to go for health twice a week - 2000 rubles with a salary of 18000 (RZD RULIT, we do not have money - save on salaries) - is it expensive or not?

[Million]

Rosneft and genetics. A strange combination. Do not expect anything good from this

[Esaul]

Well, another breakthrough in the queue after moving away from oil dependence, deoffshorization, strengthening the economy, improving living standards, narrowing the income gap, digitalizing the economy, caring for the environment, developing domestic microelectronics, nanotechnology, etc. etc.

[Maks1995]

Bullshit question.
Oilmen asked for money? Requested.
Did they get the money? Dali. And not just the genome.
Is gas more expensive? Rises in price. And Putin and K. promised to prevent cheapening.

So why be surprised. And the exit from the Genome will dissolve somewhere in the reported billions of Rosneft.
Not the first time.

[Mylenef]

I wonder what happens if you remove the gene for greed?

[parusnik]

I wonder what happens if you remove the gene for greed?

.... They will not work on this, do not worry.

[Mylenef]

I'm not worried, just interesting

[Minato2020]

Quote: Mylenef

I wonder what happens if you remove the gene for greed?

There will be nothing - there are still genes for money-grubbing and others like them ...
You need to remove the stupid genes, but as they say:
"Against stupidity ... even the gods ... are powerless to fight."

[Sergej1972]

How many fathers will understand that they are raising non-biological children, and how many children will know that dad and not dad actually.) On the other hand, if a genetic information bank is created for Russians, then maybe people will cheat less friend.

[Galleon]

in 2019, they adopted the “Federal Scientific and Technical Program for the Development of Genetic Technologies for 2019-2027”

They courageously accepted the program and bravely opened financing. Do you have instrument making in order to develop any area of ​​science? Is there at least some factory equipment left? Is the chemical industry ready to dispense any substance in the indicated volumes? Or has everything been eliminated by banks that have become unexpected and stupid owners of bankrupt industries?
Do you speak? If only I could take a look at this ...

[evgen1221]

Well, yes, goodbye Vector. Now they will bring in a crowd of stupid accelerators, optimizers and other executors of the royal will, and they will check each other and write heaps of useless pieces of paper.

[alone]

Education, medicine and science are ruined. Now they decided to take up genetics .. It will not be a geneticist who will be engaged, but endocrinologist M Vorontsova, V. (Putin's daughter V.V.). $ 1 billion was allocated for this.
And the Author, for some reason, didn’t indicate this in the article ..

[Vadim237]

And what is ruined there in education, medicine and science - preferably in detail.

[alone]

Thousands of closed schools, hospitals, clinics, is this not enough for you? Are tens of thousands of people connected with science working abroad for other countries an achievement? Can treating patients abroad because of the lack of appropriate medical facilities and specialists in their country is normal?
P, S. Patriotism and love for the motherland should not oblige someone to praise everything in a row ..
Speaking of good, one must speak of bad ..

[Vadim237]

Thousands of closed schools - This is not the right time in villages where 3-4 students studied from the force? Hospitals and clinics continue to build new ones and the same FAPA.
"Tens of thousands of people related to science are working abroad for other states, this is an achievement" For this you can say thanks to the planned economy of the USSR, most of the innovative developments were piled on the shelves, and the implementation of the plan itself kicked off all innovations as they slowed down production, add here the absence or deficit materials of modern equipment, etc., and the result of the 90s does not seem surprising - they opened the borders and part of the scientists dumped with their previously unnecessary patents and inventions abroad - now in Russia there are almost a million scientists working for state and private companies, so whoever will treat complex diseases there is money abroad, since in the USSR and Russia they were not normally treated and could not be treated due to the lack of modern equipment, necessary medicines, etc. And only recently, foreigners began to go to Russia for treatment because it is cheap here. Here's about good and bad - more or less detailed.

[Operator]

The USSR has shit with genetics in full: Lysenkoism is just flowers, berries are a complete loser in the "green revolution" and genetic engineering.

After Americans using Chinese genetic engineering synthesized coronavirus in 2015, which led to a pandemic, global crisis, and American Spring in 2020, genetic engineering became an industry in the military-industrial complex.

But fans of Lysenko with a coronavirus-affected brain continue to sink for soviet selection and against GMOs.

[Minato2020]

Quote: Operator

The USSR has shit with genetics in full: Lysenkoism is just flowers, berries are a complete loser in the "green revolution" and genetic engineering.

After Americans using Chinese genetic engineering synthesized coronavirus in 2015, which led to a pandemic, global crisis, and American Spring in 2020, genetic engineering became an industry in the military-industrial complex.
But fans of Lysenko with a coronavirus-affected brain continue to sink for soviet selection and against GMOs.

Somehow ... someday ... after 30 years, read at your leisure the works of Academician T. D. Lysenko
http://imichurin.narod.ru/lysenko/Index.html

And in particular "What is Michurin genetics"
http://imichurin.narod.ru/lysenko/agrobiology_21.html

And further...
"... We are so accustomed to living in a world of patterns and stereotypes that we have forgotten how not only to think, but even to be interested in anything.
I’m not talking about all without exception (fortunately, there are exceptions!), But about the overwhelming majority who judge with such unshakable conviction about issues that they don’t understand at all and know nothing about them.
For example, ask anyone what he thinks of Vavilov and Lysenko. Not among young people, of course, to whom these names are completely unknown, but among older people, those who still remember the “Twinkle” of the late 80s and the film “White Clothes”.
They will answer you that Vavilov was a geneticist, and Lysenko was a persecutor of genetics (anyone who wants to show off erudition will add that Lysenko was a “Michurinist”).

Meanwhile, this has nothing to do with the truth. This is just a stereotype, moreover, stupid, primitive, designed for complete (not even partial, but exactly full!) Ignorance, ignorance of the subject.

The truth is that both were geneticists.
Both Lysenko and Vavilov claimed the existence of the genome and the laws of heredity. In principle, they differed only in one thing - the question of the inheritance of acquired properties.

Vavilov believed that the acquired properties are not inherited and the genome remains unchanged throughout the history of its existence.
In this, he relied on the work of Weismann and Morgan (hence the “Weismann-Morganists”).

Lysenko, on the contrary, argued that the genome can change, fixing the acquired properties.
In this he relied on the neo-Darwinism of Lamarck.

Actually, the dispute between the “Weismannists” and the “Neo-Darwinists” was purely academic.
And this was not a dispute between genetics and antigenetics, but a dispute between two areas in genetics.

So there was no “persecution of genetics”!
Weismannists had troubles, yes, but not because they were geneticists, but for a different reason: first embezzlement of state money, and then an attempt to run into their scientific opponents with foreign colleagues
(The conflict in the Higher Academy of Agricultural Sciences was provoked by them, through denunciations, study the primary sources!).

Modern scientific research has fully confirmed the correctness of Lysenko and the fallacy of Vavilov’s views.
Yes, the genome is changing!
But the most interesting thing is that this had nothing to do with the fate of these two scientists.
https://ss69100.livejournal.com/2429571.html

[Operator]

What, damn it, is the Vavilov / Lysenko genome, when the material carrier of the hereditary properties of all living things under the name DNA was discovered only in 1953, after which there was a fundamental possibility to change it.

Once again - what does theoretical genetics have to do with it, now we are talking exclusively about practical, including military, genetic engineering (which they dragged into the USSR and now have to urgently catch up).

[Diviz]

Damn right now, artificial intelligence will be connected to this. Previously, they somehow lived and bred well. Traditions of the people must have been watching.

[Vadim237]

Yes, having from 3 to 5 million abortions in the RSFSR every year - this is probably the same tradition. In Russia, we have up to 400000 abortions per year.

[Diviz]

And what do we have istria in the Soviet Union ends. There were much more interesting times. And even epochs and even princes, kings of Sarmatians, Scythians and even Polovtsy, well, then supplement them yourself.

[Minato2020]

Quote: Vadim237

Yes, having every year from 3 to 5 million abortions in the RSFSR - this is probably the same tradition.
In Russia, we have up to 400000 abortions per year.

Abortion is not a tradition in Russia.
Under I. Stalin, abortion was prohibited.
Abortion was permitted under Trotskyist N. Khrushchev.
In 1956, an explosive increase in the number of abortions began in the USSR, and by 1964 the 5,46 millionth record was set in the RSFSR.
The total number of abortions in the RSFSR from 1960 to 2008 amounted to 185 million.

On the issue of reduction, not by washing, so by rolling the number of Russians, whether Anglo-Saxons or Germans, adhere to the same position. Here, for example, how the Germans intended to solve this problem in the "eastern territories" they occupied, in particular in Ukraine:

"Dear Partyeigenosse Rosenberg!
On behalf of the Führer, I bring to your attention his wish that you observe and implement the following principles in politics in the occupied eastern territories.
1. We may only be interested in to reduce population growth in occupied eastern regions through abortion. German lawyers should never obstruct this. According to the Führer, broad trade in preservatives should be allowed in the occupied eastern territories. For we are not at all interested in a non-German population multiplying.
2. The danger that the population of the occupied eastern regions will multiply more than before is very great, because by itself it is clear that its well-being is much better. That is why we must take the necessary measures against the reproduction of non-German population.
Your M. Bormann "

(Excerpt from Bormann's letter, Military History Journal, 1965, No. 1, pp. 82–83).

[iouris]

Quote: "... there is a high degree of probability ..." End of quote.
The use of a purely Russian idiom "fraction of probability" is a marker of a complete lack of basic knowledge of the foundations of probability theory.
It should read: "... with a high degree of confidence."
Essentially. "This whole story" is tailored to a specific person and everyone knows about it.

[Mikhail3]

Are we executing another direct order from the USA? What do smart people say there? Well, you learned by some miracle to become a biologist-geneticist. And where will you go to work? There is nowhere in Russia. Well, that is, in general. "Startup", what to create? I mean, buy a machine for genetic modification, worth tens of millions of dollars, and with the same amount of consumables for it on the money saved from school lunches, and put it in your garage? And having heard about this investment the deputy head of the nearest council will not take it away from you by the hands of cops working with him for many years? Hehe ...
In general, the people learned here will go to the USA, where else? Yearning...

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Dalny V

Just during the "coronavirus pandemic"

About the pandemic: https://habr.com/en/post/497956/

"No, well, what is man-made? What kind of nonsense? I thought when I first heard the hypothesis that Kovid-19 was caused either by a laboratory leak, or even by a targeted bio-attack. And each time he simply dismissed these speculations when they once again swam up to me in a turbulent stream of coronavirus infoshum. Well, think of it, there is a virology institute in Wuhan, you never know ...
And here, in pursuit of the arguments against the man-made virus, the virus of doubt infected me. What, in fact, is the reason for doubt? The fact that the deeper you plunge into the activities of coronavirusologists over the past 15–20 years, the better you understand that the creation of exactly such chimeras as CoV2 was commonplace for them. "

“No conclusive evidence supports or excludes any of the following reasons for the high adaptation of the virus:
1. SARS2 entered the human population and circulated undetected, adapting to humans
2. SARS2 has been adapted for humans in a population of another species in contact with humans
3. SARS2 has been adapted into the human cell culture laboratory. "

[Vadim237]

All artificial viruses have a genetic passport - allowing them to be recognized from viruses of natural origin.

[Knell wardenheart]

About the wave of negative GMO pleased) Here it is-payback for obscurantism)
And although I am with all my paws for the development of scientific projects in Russia - the fact that the state will be engaged in this (again?! Again ?!) and the money will be from commodity monopolists - does not add any positive news to this news (as, in fact, the very wording "genome editing", sounding from the proponents of these initiatives, together with their desire to collect some kind of genetic information (voluntarily-compulsorily or by deception? I hardly believe that we will do without it).

The potential of such research is understandable and unambiguously useful - but dirty raking hands with thoughts a la German Gref - this clearly turns away from this idea in her current idea.

[Sahalinets]

Well, nanotechnology has already been raised; it’s time to cut loot on biotechnology.

[Vadim237]

86 production of nanomaterials and related products are currently operating in Russia.

[Valter1364]

Yes! And you must definitely use the invaluable experience of nanotechnology. Genetic nanotechnology! With such a slogan you can cheat anything and as much as you like from the treasury!

[hhhhhhh]

Finally, in the passport it will be written who is genetically Russian, and who is non-Russian))))

[Romey]

They are afraid to write in paper ...

[Sergej1972]

Nationality is a sociocultural concept rather than a genetic one.

[hhhhhhh]

Quote: Sergej1972

Nationality is a sociocultural concept rather than a genetic one.

You are somehow not in the spirit of the times, not racist, you reason))))

[Charik]

feces they do not want to accept?

[Charik]

the oval bazaar, that the tsar’s daughter Babosiki from Rosneft and Rosneft-Volody’s, let’s denyushki’s rule this topic, will be poor

[Minato2020]

To create space from scratch in the USSR, circles of young cosmonauts were opened in almost every third school. In these circles mock-ups of rockets were made, some of these mock-ups were then launched from the wasteland with varying degrees of success.
As a result, there was a breakthrough in the development of space technology in the USSR.

To achieve success in genetics, it is necessary to introduce the concept of Rita's laws during training, to equip school classes with electron microscopes, sterile laboratory drug glass, filters and centrifuges at the modern level. In order for schoolchildren to take tissue samples of the studied material in order to plant them on a nutrient medium, a sufficient amount of viral material was grown under the supervision of teachers for a long time, then it was isolated, the gene sequence was determined using an electron microscope, and only then could the genetics be counted.
And then there will be a breakthrough in the development of genetic research in the Russian Federation.

[Klingon]

As usual, someone is out of place - journalism is engaged in Space and Oilmen will be engaged in genetics ... what are they up there thinking at all? Genetics is a very complex and serious science, or does the great Pu think that genetics can be pulled by the ears with a snap of his fingers, instantly overcoming 10 years in the industry lagging and simply putting the "Pipe" at the helm ??

[Vadim237]

Rosneft will act as a co-investor in these works - institutes and the Academy of Sciences will be engaged.

[ALEKSEY]

If you do not take this topic under control, then it will be imposed from the outside but already with its own architecture. He does everything right. Yes, long, hard, expensive. Otherwise, addiction does not go away. Never.

[akunin]

Putin instructed to introduce genetics to schools

Mendel’s laws are enough at the household level,

It seems that full-fledged genomic editing will soon come to our country. President Putin has made it clear that it is in this direction that the main stake will be made in the program for raising domestic genetics.

- do faithful Putiners (the only way out of this situation)?

[muham]

How so? The selling girl of imperialism in the house, and even the children?

[olimpiada15]

In the school curriculum, a lot of things have been pushed, but there is no use for saturation. The most important thing that a school should do is to develop the brain, to teach to think logically, to perceive new information. And with mental activity is very bad. Looking through news aggregators, I constantly encounter illiteracy, mistakes in spelling words, matching endings, the meaning of headings often contradicts the content, a lot of lies, information about nothing. The main thing for a person is to discover and learn to use the abilities laid down by nature itself. Replacing the natural work of the brain with an understanding of information technology, we received an illiterate generation that is not guided by natural processes, but simply buried in gadget buttons. And there is no progress in replacing the buttons with touch screens. Turn off the electricity - and life will freeze. Coronovirus and other biological adversities need to be contrasted with other safety measures. I once read a statement by a scientist from the Kurchatov Institute that a person can only create a miserable copy of what is in nature itself. I saved the quote on my computer, but I can’t find it. Humanity today does not improve life, but destroys the mechanisms inherent in the human body by nature itself. We destroy nature in the name of greed and money-grubbing of a tiny part of humanity. We do not know what we are doing.

[seacap]

And we are not enough dozens of laboratories funded by the US Department of Defense around, or are they so lazy or are we such a dependent colony that we ourselves will now collect genetic material from our citizens for them? What did not work out with the virus, did not "grow together" somewhere, little and not according to the schedule (the expression of our vice-premier who suffers for the people) is dying out, something should be "corrected"? There is no doubt that these data, as well as the data of the notorious digitalization, will be overseas in the relevant services of the State Department, etc., and this is done, most likely, on their instructions, because. We do not have structures and infrastructure for processing, and most importantly, using this array of data. In the 90s, so many secrets and technologies were taken out that they have not yet been "raked", saved them trillions of dollars, gave impetus to development , resources and now again, so whose interests are the so-called leaders' estate, but I doubt that ours, more like a colonial administration, serves?

[immobile2008]

Putin’s daughter works in genetics, that's all interest

[gridasov]

In genetics, as well as in other aspects of the formation of psychophysical resistance to changing conditions of the world order, it is necessary to move on to a fundamentally new technique.

[Brigadier]

"President Putin has made it clear that it is in this direction that the main stake will be made in the program for raising domestic genetics."

Does the great helmsman of all Russia want to create the ideal person?
So to speak, create a new "homo-hard worker"
Ideal, of course, from the point of view of his friends - moneybags.

- That the "new" person ate little, but worked a lot and for mere pittance;
- To not be interested in anything in politics, but to live only in production;
- To always approve of the decisions of the great helmsman and his henchman's friends;
- To breed like a rabbit and himself, without requiring subsidies for children, raise a shift for the joy of the great helmsman and his company;
- To plow like a tractor, up to 80 years old, without requiring a pension;
- To die quietly and imperceptibly, the next day, when it can no longer work ...

Oh, and we will live then !!!
To the delight of the great helmsman and his companion ...

[Andrey Adamenko]

When ours will catch up with the world around 2035?