Bulgaria intends to sell MiG-29 fighters

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Bulgaria intends to sell MiG-29 fighters

Bulgaria intends to sell MiG-29 fighters, which are in service with the country's air force, but only after eight F-16s arrive. This statement was made by Bulgarian Minister of Defense Krasimir Karakachanov.

According to the minister, after the arrival of F-16 fighters to the Bulgarian Air Force, there will be no need to maintain the MiG-29 fleet, and their sale can serve as compensation for part of the investment costs for new aircraft. At the moment, the Bulgarian Air Force has fourteen MiG-29s. According to the previously concluded contract, the Russian MiG Corporation is engaged in their maintenance and repair until 2022.



However, the prospects for the sale of far from new MiG-29 fighters from the Bulgarian Air Force are not highly rated. Nobody will give a high price for them, in Europe there is no one to sell them, except Ukraine, which would prefer to be presented with it, and even given money for a major overhaul. The countries of Africa and Asia in general will not scrape money for such planes, and those who have money prefer to buy new planes rather than second-hand ones. An example is Hungary, which for several years has been unsuccessfully trying to sell its MiG-29s.

Recall that Bulgaria buys eight F-16V fighters, the first F-16 should be delivered before the end of 2022, and the rest in 2023 and 2024. In the future, it is planned to purchase eight more F-16s. Lockheed Martin has already received a contract for the production of eight F-16 Block 70 multipurpose fighters for Bulgaria.


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  1. +18
    9 June 2020 16: 47
    Oh, I even know the buyer, he will buy in bulk ... there is one here in the hot Libyan desert. He will buy the pilots.
    1. -3
      9 June 2020 16: 51
      Prospects for the sale of far from new MiG-29 fighters from the Bulgarian Air Force are not highly rated. Nobody will give a high price for them, in Europe no one to sell them, except Ukraine, who would prefer to be presented with her, and even given money for a major overhaul.


      That is why it is advisable that the Russian Federation does not allow airplanes to enter dill, even by redemption Bulgarians have them with a small overpayment.

      Overpay now - save in the future Yes
      1. +4
        9 June 2020 17: 01
        Quote: Insurgent
        That is why it is advisable that the Russian Federation prevent airplanes from entering dill, even if they were bought from Bulgarians with a small overpayment.

        Well, they won’t sell them to us, and judging by the Bulgarian press, these planes are already well-worn and are being sold because of the high costs of constant repairs.
        1. 0
          9 June 2020 17: 07
          Quote: svp67
          Well, they won’t sell them to us, and judging by the Bulgarian press, these planes are already well-worn and are being sold because of the high costs of constant repairs.


          I don’t know, I don’t know ... Then let the diplomats of the Foreign Ministry demonstrate "aerobatics" and prevent planes from entering the ex-Ukraine ...
          Without hesitation in the choice of means and methods of influencing the Bulgarians (officials) wink .

          Quote: svp67
          Oh, I even know the buyer, he will buy in bulk ... there is one here in the hot Libyan desert. He will buy the pilots.


          Now, let’s better go to Haftar ...
          1. -3
            9 June 2020 20: 16
            When let the diplomats of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs demonstrate "aerobatics" and prevent planes from entering the ex-Ukraine ...

            Yes, they are on the drum to Ukraine)))))))
      2. +1
        9 June 2020 17: 05
        It also says: "..Ukraine would prefer to be presented with them, and even given money for major repairs."
        It is unlikely that the Bulgarians will agree to this))
        1. +2
          9 June 2020 17: 09
          Quote: Tuzik
          It also says: "... there is no one to sell except for Ukraine, which would prefer to be given them, and even give money for major repairs."
          It is unlikely that the Bulgarians will agree to this))

          I read articles carefully Yes

          But at the same time, Georgia faces an example, the military supplies to which were paid by the United States, and the outskirts are no exception.
        2. 0
          9 June 2020 17: 12
          Quote: Tuzik
          It is unlikely that the Bulgarians will agree to this))

          Exactly, the Bulgarians themselves are tramp, why should they give something to the 404 workers?
          1. +5
            9 June 2020 18: 04
            How why? What would they give us bast shoes for aircraft gifts. And opa - no longer tramp, but in shakalade.
      3. -6
        9 June 2020 17: 18
        Quote: Insurgent
        airplanes falling into dill,


        Yes, let them fall.
        The workers will dance hopak around them, paint the tridents and safely rot in the hangars.
        And the hokhi will not beg from the Bulgarians "Moskalski Letaki" - the Sumerian pride will not allow, they will rather beg from the Yankees some kind of flightless secondary metal thread with joyful faces.
        And with what fright of the Russian Federation to buy these airplanes? To plunge Assad into the name of friendship and loyalty?
    2. 0
      9 June 2020 17: 13
      Quote: svp67
      Oh, I even know the buyer, he will buy in bulk ... there is one here in the hot Libyan desert. He will buy the pilots.

      It is not "he" that will be correct, but "for him"!
    3. +9
      9 June 2020 17: 34
      Germany sold the Polish Air Force in 2003 22 MiG-29 at a symbolic price of 1,00 euros each. But Poland had to spend about 2 million euros to upgrade each aircraft.
      1. 0
        9 June 2020 17: 45
        exactly. There are no fools to get such hemorrhoids.
      2. 0
        10 June 2020 17: 35
        According to the minister, after the arrival of F-16 fighters to the Bulgarian Air Force, there will be no need to maintain the MiG-29 fleet, and their sale can serve as compensation for part of the investment costs for new aircraft.

        And the F-16s will come directly from the assembly line and you don’t need to service them? Oh well....
        F-16, if new, it will be generally guaranteed, and it’s not for nothing, you have to pay for everything in this post-Soviet world ...
        1. 0
          10 June 2020 21: 07
          And the F-16s will come directly from the assembly line and you don’t need to service them?

          Falcons come straight from the assembly line, completely new. Bulgaria will receive the most advanced version of this wonderful aircraft!

          To guarantee the full combat readiness of new aircraft from the moment of delivery, acceptance will be carried out through the US Air Force, which will enter the process as guarantors.
          The service will cost money, but modern Bulgaria can afford such expenses. During ATS, NRBulgaria spent up to 12-15% of its GDP for military purposes. Today, Bulgaria’s GDP is 3 times greater, and military spending is only 2% of GDP.
          As part of the package for the acquisition of F-16 bl.70, several disagreements on industrial and technological cooperation were signed:
          1. Between Lokhiid Martin and the Bulgarian state company Avianams on the construction of a new plant in Bulgaria. The plant will serve in addition to the Bulgarian and all other F-16s in the region. "LM" will supply equipment, manufactured. lines, train staff, as well as provide all the necessary licenses.
          2. "Lockheed Martin" will develop jointly with BAN / Bulgarian Academy of Sciences / a project for the production of Bulgarian drones. It is necessary to select the companies that will participate from the Bulgarian side.
          3. "Lockheed Martin" will deliver a 3D simulator to the Military Aviation School of the Horn Metropolis, for training not only pilots from Bulgaria, but also from other countries.
          1. 0
            11 June 2020 08: 19
            pytar (Boyan Ivanov) Today, Bulgaria’s GDP is 3 times greater, and military spending is only 2% of GDP.

            Why Boyan mislead the good and gullible members of the forum? Only this deal makes up almost 2% of the country's GDP ...
            Bulgaria has officially ratified the agreement on the acquisition of multi-purpose fighter F-16 Block 70. In addition to the aircraft themselves, Sofia will receive equipment and ammunition.
            The contract value is $ 1,256 billion. The first 4 cars should arrive in Bulgaria no earlier than 2023. The remaining - at the beginning of 2024. This dealcomponent almost 2% of GDP country caused a lot of contradictions and disputes, the president of the country opposed her.

            https://topwar.ru/160731-bolgarija-priobretaet-f-16-vzamen-mig-29-ssha-privetstvujut-sdelku.html
            1. -1
              11 June 2020 09: 15
              Why Boyan mislead the good and gullible members of the forum? Only this deal makes up almost 2% of the country's GDP ...

              Kind and gullible members of the forum, if something is not clear to them, ask for clarification, and do not immediately rush to accuse of deception! I will explain!
              Today, Bulgaria’s GDP is 3 times greater, and military spending is only 2% of GDP.

              By about 2%, I meant defense spending over the past 15-20 years, before the deal to acquire the F-16! It was concluded in 2019 and the contract value was, as it is written by reference, $ 1,256 billion! This raised defense spending by about 4,4-4,5%! This year and the next 5-6 years, it is planned to purchase other prominent military equipment for the ground forces and the Navy.
              Due to the pandemic, GDP will probably fall from 2021-7% by mid-8, which may debug some of the rearmament plans at a later date. With all this, military spending will not exceed the bar from 4-4,5%, which does not go in any comparison with the expenses during the ATS.
              As for the link to NewsFront, this is a propaganda resource where they drive their line. We had a lot of discussion, debate about the F16! We always have a strong opposition! Bulgaria is a democratic state, this is quite normal! In any case, the government’s intention to increase defense spending meets with widespread support among society! The army itself has the highest level of respect with us!





          2. 0
            11 June 2020 08: 30
            pytar (Boyan Ivanov) The service will cost money, but modern Bulgaria can afford such expenses.

            Have you seen enough of Bulgarian Kiselyov, or do you believe in it yourself ...?
            On June 3, the US Congress "gave Bulgaria permission to purchase a total package of 8 multi-purpose aircraft in the amount of $ 1 billion," which actually amounts to 673 leva.
            These are approximate health or education budgets for Bulgaria per year. Or the amount spent on internal affairs and defense. With this money, the minimum pension in the country may be above the average right now.
            The difference is 1 122 000 000 billion leva, and if the law is respected in Bulgaria, such an amount cannot be spent. The will of the National Assembly - the highest authority in the parliamentary republic - has a limit of 1,8 billion leva.
            The Bulgarian people do not share the American joy and the Bulgarian officers who understand the trap the country will be in.
            The deal for the United States is close to ideal, don’t look. The contract provides for conditions for Americans because of their "features and importance." They can unilaterally change conditions on prices, supplies, equipment solutions, technical support. Everything is up to them and how they want

            https://news-front.info/2019/07/31/balkanskaya-radost-ssha-gosdep-v-vostorge-ot-sdelki-s-bolgariej-po-f-16/
            And you say swimming, the water is cold ...
            Don't come to the cashier on Monday, my young "friend" is working clumsy ...
            1. -1
              11 June 2020 09: 26
              Have you seen enough of Bulgarian Kiselyov, or do you believe in it yourself ...?

              We have our own jelly, but few people pay attention to them. In no comparison do not go with the "originals" in rus-media ... lol
              About Kiselyov’s NewsFront, I do not want to comment. Typical propaganda trash. negative
              Don't come to the cashier on Monday, my young "friend" is working clumsy ...

              Judging by your childish naivety, probably when I was a young man, you weren’t even in the plans of future parents! laughing By the way, my grandchildren also play tanks on a computer. good
  2. -3
    9 June 2020 16: 49
    laughing Why do they even need combat aircraft? Instead of 14 F-16 it was necessary to buy one F-35 wassat
    1. -1
      9 June 2020 16: 58
      Still young, can break fool .
    2. 0
      9 June 2020 17: 33
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Instead of 14 F-16

      A small correction. hi
      Recall that Bulgaria buys eight F-16V fighter

      In the future, it is planned to purchase eight more F-16.

      At the moment, the Bulgarian Air Force has fourteen MiG-29.
    3. -2
      10 June 2020 10: 24
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Instead of 14 F-16 it was necessary to buy one F-35

      expensive, money only for an 2

      or
      there were such under the communists (almost a "bulgartabac")
    4. 0
      11 June 2020 09: 06
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      laughing Why do they even need combat aircraft? Instead of 14 F-16 it was necessary to buy one F-35 wassat

      Or two of our PAKs with old aircraft engines ... (one is constantly under repair, the second is on duty at the airport ...) all in business, pilots, mechanics, aircraft repair plant ... and the Air Force with a fifth-generation aircraft ... Romanians and Turks envy ...
      In short, after closing a deal with the United States, the Russian Federation is simply obliged to drink something for Bulgaria at a cost equal to 2% of Bulgaria’s GDP ..
  3. +9
    9 June 2020 17: 02
    This minister of ours collapsed from an oak ... In the 2022nd, these planes will already cost 100 euros. Eto Migi 9-12A .... they already flew their own. They are in museums, with honors ...
    1. -12
      9 June 2020 17: 18
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      This minister of ours collapsed from an oak ... In the 2022nd, these planes will already cost 100 euros. Eto Migi 9-12A .... they already flew their own. They are in museums, with honors ...

      Bulgaria is a rich country and can afford new American planes, despite the fact that NATO obliges it to do so. And MIGs are an anachronism and smacks of nostalgia for the Warsaw Pact and socialism with the USSR. The power in the country has changed and the worldview too.
      1. 0
        9 June 2020 18: 06
        And what - the MiG-29A is just a super-duper letak. Starship, no?
      2. +3
        9 June 2020 18: 08
        Quote: credo
        that NATO obliges to do this ..

        I still wildly apologize - but where is it said that Nata obliges them? They climb into the loop themselves and do not bother them. The Baltic states live without fighters and do not even plan anything: Nata has been involved in air policing for the second decade
      3. 0
        11 June 2020 09: 24
        Quote: credo
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        This minister of ours collapsed from an oak ... In the 2022nd, these planes will already cost 100 euros. Eto Migi 9-12A .... they already flew their own. They are in museums, with honors ...

        Bulgaria is a rich country and can afford new American planes,

        Do not tell my sneakers .. rich compared to anyone with Albania or neighboring Romania?
        The Republic of Bulgaria is one of the poor European countries, which has a rather large area. Despite this nuance, the state economy is lame. GDP per capita in Bulgaria averages 23 dollars. The country survives thanks to developed agriculture and tourism business.
        Source: https://visasam.ru/emigration/vybor/samye-bednye-strany-evropy.html#i-2

        despite the fact that NATO obliges it to do so.

        You can see the source where it is registered, here among the Poles, for example, the MiG-21 is still in service ...
        And MIGs are an anachronism and smacks of nostalgia for the Warsaw Pact and socialism with the USSR.

        Excuse me, but the F-16 took to the skies in the 70s, and the MiG-29 in the 80s, so where is the anachronism? F-16 for almost half a century in the sky ...
        The Russian MiG-29 and the American F-16 are fourth-generation fighters. Both of these aircraft belong to the category of light combat vehicles. F-16 first flew into the sky in the mid 70-ies of the last century. Now this fighter is the basis of the US Air Force and other countries. MiG-29 entered service with front-line aviation only in the mid-80s. Of the 1600 built 800 fighters, 30 countries were sold to the world.

        https://yandex.ru/turbo/s/samoletos.ru/samolety/mig29-vs-f16
    2. +6
      9 June 2020 18: 10
      Of course, I apologize, but you probably have it smile
      1. +2
        9 June 2020 18: 50
        but you probably have it gabrovets


        Hahahaah ... drinks Quite possible... laughing
      2. +1
        9 June 2020 21: 42
        He is a COMMIT. And shoots Macedonian.
  4. -6
    9 June 2020 17: 18
    Eh the Bulgarians "brothers" I feel they will lend you one F-35 and you will be eternal debtors laughing
    Quote: svp67
    Oh, I even know the buyer, he will buy in bulk ... there is one here in the hot Libyan desert.

    Well, I don’t know, Sergei, the United States is unlikely to allow this or they will bookmark it ..
  5. 0
    9 June 2020 17: 22
    € 1,589 billion. Cho ??? 1.6 trillion ????? belay Then it is necessary to write 1,589 billion, not billions.
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  7. -3
    9 June 2020 17: 47
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    € 1,589 billion. Cho ??? 1.6 trillion ????? belay Then it is necessary to write 1,589 billion, not billions.

    Come on. Well, people did not pass exams, but guessed the exam, He was lucky. Do not spoil his aura.
  8. -7
    9 June 2020 17: 49
    But I wonder if they will be transplanted in the air from Polish to Austrian Fiat CR.32 and then to German and then to Soviet and then to American laughing Aloysycha no - Messerschmitts 48 Bf-109G, change tobacco laughing
    1. 0
      9 June 2020 21: 43
      Right now we are waiting for the Su-57 for the Pomorie cognac.
  9. +2
    9 June 2020 17: 59
    Quote: Insurgent
    Prospects for the sale of far from new MiG-29 fighters from the Bulgarian Air Force are not highly rated. Nobody will give a high price for them, in Europe no one to sell them, except Ukraine, who would prefer to be presented with her, and even given money for a major overhaul.


    That is why it is advisable that the Russian Federation does not allow airplanes to enter dill, even by redemption Bulgarians have them with a small overpayment.

    Overpay now - save in the future Yes

    Ohrenel already completely, or not yet? Disgrace yourself by buying your own trash, interrupting your competitors. Raising the price to sky-highs? It's you, from under the baseboard, so do it. Know who bought, when, why, track, and make sure that they never took off if they fell into the wrong hands.
  10. -3
    9 June 2020 18: 02
    Quote: credo
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    This minister of ours collapsed from an oak ... In the 2022nd, these planes will already cost 100 euros. Eto Migi 9-12A .... they already flew their own. They are in museums, with honors ...

    Bulgaria is a rich country and can afford new American planes, despite the fact that NATO obliges it to do so. And MIGs are an anachronism and smacks of nostalgia for the Warsaw Pact and socialism with the USSR. The power in the country has changed and the worldview too.



    Nice demonstration of the "growth" of the bros economy. Everything fell. Factor of. The volumes of the speculative and administrative sectors have slightly increased.
    1. +4
      9 June 2020 19: 31
      Nice demonstration of the "growth" of the bros economy. Everything fell. Factor of.


      Obviously you have problems with the analysis of information - the industry grew from 20% to 24% in 2017 and in 2019 already 28%. In the same Germany - 32%.

      From 2006 until now, GDP has grown by 173%, you respected hero of television analysis and information. Every year, wages are growing by 10-12%, in 2019 - 12,3%.

      For the first trimer of 2020, we are one of the four EU countries (Bulgaria, Romania Ireland, Sweden), in which GDP is still growing, and not drowned in negative stagnation.



      Unfortunately, I have to admit that your ability to receive, comprehend and analyze the economic situation is at the level of the television set in your room. But this does not hurt either you or me, so I wish you success in understanding the picture of the world. laughing
      1. +1
        9 June 2020 21: 48
        So he meant that some sectors decreased, while others grew. As a result - both there and there at 100%.
      2. +5
        10 June 2020 03: 22
        Our zomboyaschik, the mouthpiece of Kremlin propaganda, repeats all day round how bad everything is, and thanks to our helmsman we are simply a paradise on earth. And many people believe in this without enthusiasm.
  11. -3
    9 June 2020 18: 59
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    But I wonder if they will be transplanted in the air from Polish to Austrian Fiat CR.32 and then to German and then to Soviet and then to American laughing Aloysycha no - Messerschmitts 48 Bf-109G, change tobacco laughing

    Not ... e next planes will be Uncle SI. laughing
  12. -1
    9 June 2020 19: 04
    yes there cars are half killed for sure, a beggar (the EU will help FIG) Bulgaria, vegetables wine resorts-all
    1. +2
      10 June 2020 08: 35
      You do not have the correct information. According to all objective data, the economic situation in Bulgaria is better than that of many other countries of Eastern Europe.
  13. +7
    9 June 2020 19: 52
    Insider information, for VO readers only! laughing
    The Bulgarian Minister of Defense of Karakachanov is by no means a hollow! He hints from his statement that there is ALREADY expressed interest in buying the Bulgarian MiG-29! Who could it be? Who needs not new MiGs and right now? Hint:

    Photo from Libya - MiG-29 without identification marks at the disposal of Havtar. It is assumed that they are from the Russian or Egyptian Air Force. Supplies are funded by the Emirates. Together with Egypt and Russia, they are allies of the Libyan Marshal. The Emirates has a very good relationship with Bulgaria! The purchase is quite possible, and negotiations are probably already underway! Russia will not mind, since the UAE will assume financial obligations under a contract for the repair of aircraft with MiG RSK. And Bulgaria will be able to sell them at a pretty good price! The Bulgarian MiG-29s, although old, are still quite combat-ready! They are certainly no worse than those who already have Havtaru! He does not need airplanes with a large residual resource!
    So, assumptions Sergey (svp67) probably true! hi
    Don't say thank you, I didn't tell you anything! laughing
    1. +4
      9 June 2020 20: 21
      By the way, Bulgaria is currently negotiating with the UAE to transfer the oligarch Hiding there, Vasil Bozhkov. He is accused of major crimes. There is no extradition agreement between Bulgaria and the Emirates, and so far they are refusing the ego to transfer Bulgarian justice. It is possible that Bozhkov’s extradition will be part of the deal to sell MiGs ... bully
      1. 0
        10 June 2020 08: 36
        And why is he hiding in the Muslim UAE? Is he a Muslim, man?
        1. 0
          10 June 2020 10: 07
          And why is he hiding in the Muslim UAE? Is he a Muslim, man?

          No, he's not pomp. In this case, religion is not necessary. The UAE is an offshore paradise. There you can easily register an offshore company and legally acquire a permanent residence / permanent residence. Vasil Bozhkov has already invested 1 million drachmas / 275 thousand. dollars / in real estate, this is a small amount for him, and it is also assumed that he keeps a large amount in an Emirati bank. The UAE does not have a disagreement about remission from Bulgaria, and even if they do with some country, they very rarely respond to inquiries. In short, Bozhkov found a comfortable shelter for himself, although the situation may change. The Bulgarian authorities put the ego on the international wanted list through Interpol. By the way, information recently came out that "friends from Russia" with whom he has business contacts interceded for him before the authorities of the Emirates ... Well, the lads are supported ... laughing
  14. -3
    9 June 2020 20: 11
    Quote: pytar
    Insider information, for VO readers only! laughing
    The Bulgarian Minister of Defense of Karakachanov is by no means a hollow! He hints from his statement that there is ALREADY expressed interest in buying the Bulgarian MiG-29! Who could it be? Who needs not new MiGs and right now? Hint:

    Photo from Libya - MiG-29 without identification marks at the disposal of Havtar. It is assumed that they are from the Russian or Egyptian Air Force. Supplies are funded by the Emirates. Together with Egypt and Russia, they are allies of the Libyan Marshal. The Emirates has a very good relationship with Bulgaria! The purchase is quite possible, and negotiations are probably already underway! Russia will not mind, since the UAE will assume financial obligations under a contract for the repair of aircraft with MiG RSK. And Bulgaria will be able to sell them at a pretty good price! The Bulgarian MiG-29s, although old, are still quite combat-ready! They are certainly no worse than those who already have Havtaru! He does not need airplanes with a large residual resource!
    So, assumptions Sergey (svp67) probably true! hi
    Don't say thank you, I didn't tell you anything! laughing

    Are you lucky? laughing Arrest at the border laughing
  15. -3
    9 June 2020 20: 17
    That's right, close all the factories and leave alone behind a puddle. good laughing
  16. -3
    9 June 2020 20: 19
    Hungary and the Czech Republic - Slovakia's Central European neighbors - use Gripen ... Bulgaria also intends to replace eight of its MiG-29s and chooses between the American F-16 and the Swedish Gripen ...

    That is, in fact, the Americans squeezed the market from the Swedes. The rest are in line. laughing
  17. -3
    9 June 2020 20: 44
    To trick the head-sultan to the ruler of all the great brilliant ports, he will show where the crayfish hibernate laughing
  18. -1
    10 June 2020 02: 49
    laughing Well done Donald is a cool shopkeeper! )))
  19. 0
    10 June 2020 14: 10
    Eh the Bulgarians "brothers" I feel they will lend you one F-35 and you will be eternal debtors

    There is not enough money for one F-35. Divide it in half with the North Macedonians. One day will fly over Bulgaria, and the next over North Macedonia.
    1. +1
      10 June 2020 14: 59
      He has an after-flight service of 11 hours !!! So that at least in a day ....
  20. wow
    0
    10 June 2020 15: 29
    Sell ​​ukraine, ukraine.
  21. 0
    10 June 2020 15: 46
    What Indians do not want to buy cheap MiG-29 countries of Eastern Europe for further modernization. Malaysian MiGs were seen by the Indians, though as a trade-in in the context of Tejas delivery.
  22. +1
    10 June 2020 18: 50
    Yes, there are probably another 29 16 in stock. Who needs them? As much modernization is needed