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Mikhail Leontyev: “We are not just on a leash, but on the shortest leash in the world”

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Mikhail Leontyev: “We are not just on a leash, but on the shortest leash in the world”

State Duma deputy Yevgeny Fedorov is preparing amendments that should make the country's economy completely ruble. According to Fedorov, changes are needed to the Law “On the Central Bank” and to the Constitution, which will free the Russian economy from dollar dominance.


Russia is one of the most dollar dependent countries in the world.

His initiative is inappropriate, although worthy of respect. She, unfortunately, is not realizable. I can remind you that at one time in Israel, when inflation was high there, a law was passed that determining the price not in shekels, but in dollars, is punishable by a fine. Penalty - in dollars. It's pointless. Dedollarization of the economy is carried out by ensuring the country's currency self-sufficiency.

Russia is one of the most dependent countries on the dollar in the world. We are not just on a leash, but on the shortest leash in the world. We know that the Russian currency depends on the dollar, that is, on the price of oil. It is, in principle, the same thing, related to each other things. An economy that does not have a developed domestic market does not have a high degree of autonomy, due to the fact that it has some kind of independent domestic market. An economy that is completely built on exports, and on pure raw materials exports, cannot achieve greater independence from the dollar than it is now.

We can achieve more only by introducing a rejection of direct conversion.

We have all civilized, normal, market forms of dedollarization and work: no one in any store accepts dollars. You will not force anyone anywhere to fool a dollar. But we can achieve more only in one way - by introducing the rejection of direct conversion, the formation of multiple courses. This is a separate issue, it can be discussed for a long time, under certain circumstances it can be considered; it is a different economic strategy and a different economic system in general. I do not think that deputy Fedorov means this, therefore it seems to me that this is a propaganda gesture on his part and nothing more. I do not understand what amendments may be, I don’t imagine rational, economically sound and working changes that could be made here and which would significantly change the situation. You can seriously adjust the details, but I am not aware of Fedorov’s complex offer. But I do not think that he made an economic discovery, as a result of which it is possible to de-dollarize the dollar-dependent economy.

We get our main climate of the country in dollars, in which oil prices are considered. If we suddenly started selling all our resources for rubles (there was such an idea), then, probably, this would change something. But is this a good question, because we are still dependent on the market. Imagine: we sell oil for rubles, there is a need for rubles in the markets. Suppose some countries have begun to create reserves in rubles. Then the ruble would become a more convertible currency in the world, but in case of fluctuating market demand for raw materials, we would then collapse the ruble. That is, our oil becomes prohibitively larger, and these fluctuations are not only real, but practically inevitable.
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  1. vadim58
    vadim58 3 August 2012 09: 29
    +22
    Probably only one way out? Should the country become absolutely self-sufficient?
    1. KA
      KA 3 August 2012 10: 31
      +16
      Vryatli our country will be able to become absolutely self-sufficient (bannans, coffee, etc. will not grow here), but it MUST stop being a raw material economy (depend on the prices of oil, gas, metals, etc.)! This is not a matter of economics; it is a matter of survival. In the meantime, I personally, to my regret, can state that we are increasingly becoming a raw material appendage of the world. Watch TV what the government is boasting about: we have laid the Nord Stream, we are going to build the South Stream, we are developing the Shtokman field, etc., and the advertisement of Gazprom: "We are in the first place in gas production in the world, We are Russians" all this is sad sad
      1. Irkit
        Irkit 3 August 2012 15: 20
        +14
        Imagine for a while!
        We stopped selling oil, gas ...
        And?
        Wait for the guests at the gate.
        And they simply will not have another way out, they will not freeze in winter because of the greed of the oil and gas country.
        ...
        1. dreamer
          dreamer 3 August 2012 15: 30
          +2
          You don’t force a dollar on anyone anywhere

          If Mikhail has problems with this, then let him come to me and "foist" or "foist" his lousy dollars, I promise not to oppose this process laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 August 2012 15: 41
            +6
            Quote: dreamer
            there are problems with this, then let him come to me and "foist" or "foist" his lousy dollars, I promise not to oppose this process

            Alexei, I agree to drive up and give you dollars at 50 rubles for one green. You promised not to oppose the process. laughing
            1. dreamer
              dreamer 3 August 2012 15: 43
              +4
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              , I agree to drive up and hand you dollars for the price of 50 rubles for one green one. You promised not to oppose the process

              Pull up, I'm already starting to xer the 50 ruble bills winked
              1. Paratov
                Paratov 3 August 2012 15: 59
                +7
                Tolley he misunderstands something, toli does not say anything.
                How not to twist, but to do something. And he says it's useless, sit and do not rock the boat, still nothing shines. As if we are not selling oil, but buying, and we are dictated what to pay.
                1. Bismarck
                  Bismarck 3 August 2012 17: 30
                  +3
                  Quote: Paratov

                  Tolley he misunderstands something, toli does not say

                  Yes, he again toils with a hangover, there is such a rumpled physia!
        2. baron.nn
          baron.nn 3 August 2012 15: 43
          +4
          IrkIt: Over the past 200 years, guests have come to us 2 times ... And why did they leave?
          1. Irkit
            Irkit 3 August 2012 15: 58
            +3
            Then they came, galloped over. Right now they will arrive, they will arrive.
            We need it?
            Sooner or later, both oil and gas will run out.
            So you need to have time to develop infrastructure for money for these resources.
            "Research centers are needed as in the USSR", without them popen. Science rules at all times.
            And with our ingenuity, we are just super geniuses;)
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 3 August 2012 18: 10
              0
              My friend, when the oil and gas run out, the population of Russia will freeze out in the first winter, at least most of it, and the constructed infrastructure will not be needed, like a bulldozer at the North Pole without a salary!
              1. Summer
                Summer 3 August 2012 18: 38
                +4
                Quote: S_mirnov
                Friend, when you run out of oil and gas

                It means never !!! We will live forever !!! fellow
          2. puskarinkis
            puskarinkis 3 August 2012 23: 15
            +1
            We were visited, received and left many times! And now, they organized themselves in a different way and just bought or took possession ... Previously, they drove the people and spent on transportation and feeding in order to bring them to Europe to work. And now they are going to work, at their own expense. And intellectuals are bought on our territory ...
        3. vadimN
          vadimN 3 August 2012 15: 47
          +5
          There is a simple way out - we continue to supply oil and gas, but we say: "Guys, pay us for this in RUBLES!" ... and the ruble will become the hardest currency in the world. Provided with oil and gas, and not like American candy wrappers, provided only with a printing press ...
          1. Isr
            Isr 3 August 2012 16: 24
            +12
            "Guys, pay us for this in RUBLES!" ... and the ruble will become the hardest currency in the world. Provided with oil and gas, and not like American candy wrappers, provided only with a printing press ... "- I learn the" economic "ravings of the old man. Create a powerful, stable economy, provide the ruble with a more substantial content than raw materials, the ruble will become freely convertible, and then everything will begin to pay in rubles. Tiny Switzerland has a freely convertible franc, tiny Japan, tiny Israel, without resources, in a bare desert, and that smog. And Russia with such potential, of course, can also. The ruble was once freely convertible, before the October coup ...
            1. Bismarck
              Bismarck 3 August 2012 17: 31
              +4
              Isr,
              We have a whole Siberia - ruble security! What else is needed? hi
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 3 August 2012 18: 14
                +3
                What is needed: brains, high civic consciousness of citizens, a person at the helm of the country, caring for the people of this country. Now tell me what do we have of this?
                1. Summer
                  Summer 3 August 2012 18: 40
                  +7
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  What is needed: brains, high civic consciousness of citizens, a person at the helm of the country, caring for the people of this country. Now tell me what we have of this

                  All!!! bully bully bully And our brains cannot be leaped to others!
                2. esaul
                  esaul 3 August 2012 19: 14
                  +5
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  It is necessary: ​​brains

                  An interesting, presumptuous statement. It is said as if these very "brains" were grown entirely in American greenhouses. About stealing and buying up brains, using a convenient (often unseemly pretext) - silence!
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  high civic identity of citizens

                  There is such a thing ... Is it not for these self-conscious people that there is a law on NGOs? which is much more repressive than Russian law. Is it not for these especially patriotic citizens that plastic coffins are being prepared for future use (this fact has already been asked many times, but no one has received a response from the state authorities) and not for the "good" of these very citizens, the powers of the police have been significantly expanded, which look very much like to legalized lawlessness?
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  personality at the helm of the country

                  This is generally a wonderful phrase. Already at the helm of this country was a cowboy (formerly a regular at the Society of Alcoholics Anonymous), who easily and irresponsibly confused the names of countries in official speeches and behaved like a gopnik, gluing gum to his sole.
                  You have such a personality - dofiga! Here Romney is on the way, who, without thinking about the lives of his citizens, declares his intention to strike Iran. McCain is also the one who during his brilliant military career destroyed more than one American plane and not a dozen of his compatriots. Yes, you have personalities - enough ...!
            2. mechanic33
              mechanic33 3 August 2012 20: 54
              0
              Quote: Isr
              Create a powerful, stable economy, provide the ruble with a more substantial content than raw materials, the ruble will become freely convertible


              wait, but I do not know wars for iPads ... but wars for raw materials ... well, the reserve currencies are the US dollar, pound sterling, Swiss franc, Japanese yen, mark of the FRG, French franc (the last two were transformed into euros) just a political decision ... this is the so-called Bretton Woods system, and since the mid-seventies it has been modernized into the Jamaican monetary system. They just came up with it for themselves, beautiful democratic, and not for us ...
            3. Ascetic
              Ascetic 3 August 2012 21: 23
              +6
              Quote: Isr
              Create a powerful, stable economy, provide the ruble with a more substantial content than raw materials, the ruble will become freely convertible, and then everyone will start paying in rubles.


              Historically, in the public consciousness of the peoples of many countries, a false idea of ​​true human values, the true sources of national wealth has taken root. Main focus usually done at capital on the defining component of income generation. Resources the same, borrowed by man from nature, are considered as if free. Therefore, if the depreciation of capital is naturally included in production costs, then the “depreciation” of natural resources is not taken into account at all.
              Hence the deliberately overestimated capital value in value added with an almost zero estimate of natural resources. Thanks to this, the fact of a natural increase in value added in the countries of the “golden billion”, which concentrated most of the international capital, was confirmed. All major banks and TNK headquarters are located there.
              Money is just a conventional unit of measurementthat serves to purchase goods and services. Richer is not the one who has a lot of cut paper - money, but the one who has more natural resources... On a per capita basis, the natural resource potential of Russia is 2 - 2,5 times higher than the resource potential of the United States, 6 times - Germany, 18 - 22 times - Japan. Russia's natural reserves are estimated at trillions of dollars.
              And only the economic system that has developed over the past decade, which takes into account the interests of the oligarchy, and not the majority of the people, does not allow the country to realize its geo-economic advantage. By the way, according to Forbes' estimates, for the first half of the year, Gazprom in absolute terms received the highest profit among ALL global billionaire companies. So the content of the ruble can be more than significant.
              Only the one who has his own money is the master of his position. Not one of the European states could afford it. They had to band together to issue a controversial euro to get rid of the dollar's occupation. Russia has so great potential that it is able to create its own currency and not depend on the dollar and the euro... Stop being a raw material appendage of developed countries.
              The question is why our management still does not do this? There are probably many reasons (for this you need to have at least real "closed" information). I can only recall the fate of Gaddafi with his "gold" dinar,
              or twisting the arms of Hungarian Prime Minister Orban for an attempt in Fedorov's style to nationalize the Central Bank, the same Iran has long offered anyone who can make payments in gold equivalent, China and Japan have long been bilaterally conducting settlements within the yuan-yen. Apparently, our leadership believes that Russia is not ready for a big war for its independence (who would let us so easily allow such insolence) which will inevitably be in one form or another. The main thing here is not to make sudden movements and not to run in front of the locomotive.

              The same China is indeed gradually redistributing reserves, buying up gold and other perpetual assets, but this is done extremely carefully, and it will take years for the Chinese authorities to finally get rid of the dollar dependence. This, in turn, means that China is now interested in the stability of the American currency like no other in the world. And all the "Chinese warnings" about the need to create a new reserve currency are largely addressed to the United States itself, with the aim of keeping the American authorities in good shape, so as not to allow them to deliberately or mistakenly "miss" the dollar. For Russia, the sharp weakening of the US currency does not bode well for economic benefits either. Rather, the opposite is true. As in the case of China, the depreciation of the dollar will reduce the volume of gold and foreign exchange reserves and reserve funds; thus, budget execution and economic recovery will be under threat. The idea of ​​selling the main Russian export goods for rubles seems even more senseless. The bulk of Russian exports are oil, gas and metals - by no means unique goods offered for sale only by Russia. Their market (with the exception of gas) is quite complex and is built on the use of a significant number of financial derivatives denominated in the US currency. In order to buy Russian oil and metals for rubles, foreign importers will need for their own dollars, euros, yen, yuan, etc. purchase Russian currency by paying a commission. This will increase the total purchase price and reduce the competitiveness of the Russian supply. In turn, exporters will need to convert the received rubles into dollars or euros to purchase the necessary equipment and materials, while incurring additional transaction costs.

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              1. aksakal
                aksakal 3 August 2012 22: 36
                +2
                Quote: Ascetic
                In order to buy Russian oil and metals for rubles, foreign importers will need for their own dollars, euros, yen, yuan, etc. purchase Russian currency by paying a commission. This will increase the total purchase price and reduce the competitiveness of the Russian supply.
                - is solved simply. Issue and start to quote the ruble on the interbank forex exchange on the same terms as the cad and Australian dollars are quoted there (countries with a much more resource-based and agricultural economy than Russia, I can prove it with numbers, but it is easy to google and compare it.) The lion's share of export earnings Canada - oil, Australia - mining and uranium industry, in general, the same raw materials, only in much more modest amounts), and those who want to buy Russian goods will not have such costs as you describe here. But who will let us into FOREX? Entrance there is only for shitty countries, see FOREX and the currency basket there. Of the Asian countries, only Japan got in with its yen, and even then it is not clear why she was allowed there. Is the mechanism for not allowing the ruble and the yuan into convertible currencies clear?
              2. Isr
                Isr 4 August 2012 16: 35
                -1
                I didn't quite understand what was wrong in my proposal to create a powerful economy. Do you want to prove that with the entire periodic table and oil under your feet, you are already powerful? Well, okay, what's the problem, why is the ruble not freely convertible? Explain, only without conspiracies, purely economically, commodity-money-commodity.
            4. aksakal
              aksakal 3 August 2012 22: 01
              0
              Quote: Isr
              Create a powerful, stable economy, provide the ruble with a more substantial content than raw materials, the ruble will become freely convertible, and then everyone will start paying in rubles. Tiny Switzerland has a freely convertible franc, tiny Japan, tiny Israel, without resources, and that smog in the bare desert.
              - sorry, okay, Japan agrees, Israel - with difficulty (apart from some medical services, medicines and some military products and tourism to Jerusalem, I can not remember anything more interesting from Israel), but Switzerland? What does Switzerland have? Banking services? They don't even bother to keep bank secrets anymore. Any ordinary Tsrushnik can find out everything about the movements of your capital, if they were carried out in a Swiss bank. Soon they will reach any passer-by .... Maybe even cheese and watches, but cheeses and watches make other countries just as well. Are you saying that this guano that Switzerland offers is more substantial than oil and gas? You seriously decided to make me laugh? Listen, I can live without a bank (in extreme cases, I will bury treasures), without their watches and cheese I live fine now, but I can’t live without gasoline and metal. And after that you will prove that the Swiss content (yes, the Israeli one there) is better than the filling of the ruble? This is the first time.
              Secondly, Russia is in second place with a large, more than two-fold lead over the third "medalist" in the export of high-tech weapons. Russia is a leader in nuclear technology and has been a leader in this area for many years. Westinghouse does not smoke near Rosatom. Russia at the moment (unfortunately for now) is a leader in space exploration and space technologies. Russia has aviation technologies that only the United States, Western European countries have in the form of Airbus, Canada and Brazil. Moreover, the last two countries have these aviation technologies in a very narrow spectrum and far in incomplete volume, that is, they have no aircraft engine building at all. Russia has one of the best metallurgical industries. And after that, you will prove that Russia has a disgusting economy? And I argue that the ruble is undervalued and underestimated on purpose - this is the policy of world leaders - the Naglo-Saxons. The yuan is even more undervalued, but it doesn't bother me much. But your shekel and your franc are undeservedly overvalued. I also laugh at Canadian and Australian dollars. Australia is generally a raw material and agrarian country; even Kazakhstan broke it two years ago in the field of uranium mining and enrichment, but the Australian dollar is freely convertible. Do not you see any clear policy and clear protectionism in this? Especially in light of the fact that in Australia there is practically nothing of non-Chinese finished products. laughing
              Damn, gentlemen, Jews, I always admire your ability to put a chela in guano and then still convince him that he climbed there himself. Here is the same case - all possible obstacles from the financial kings of the planet (among which, by pure chance, of course, almost all of your fellow tribesmen), no matter what the ruble or yuan is not converted, but in the end Russia is to blame laughing
              Quote: Isr
              And Russia with such potential, of course, can also
              - and thanks for that. And thank you for your kind words. I have no doubt about it. Only I would not like at too high a price, that would be without wars and the forced liquidation of the States. I hope the States will understand this and at least the instinct of self-preservation will prevail.
              1. Isr
                Isr 4 August 2012 16: 49
                0
                "Israel - with difficulty (except for some medical services, medicines and some military products and tourism to Jerusalem, I can not remember anything more interesting from Israel)" - you naturally do not know.
                We earn on:
                1. vegetables, fruits, milk, cotton, poultry meat are four times more than we need for our own consumption.
                2.diamonds
                3. hi-tech. few know that they use compression of information in photos, video, audio, communications every second. Wherever it comes to transferring or storing data, compression is necessary. We use compression algorithms when talking on the phone, watching a movie or surfing the Internet. This algorithm (and its variants) is called LZ, according to the professors of the Haifa Technion.
                4. metalworking, mechanical engineering and spare parts.
                5.Research in the medical field (drugs for cancer, immunodeficiency, tuberculosis)
                I can add, but that's enough
        4. Russ -
          Russ - 3 August 2012 16: 54
          0
          Quote: IrkIt
          Wait for the guests at the gate, and they just won't have another exit

          Except acting as suicides and kamikaze
          It has long been known and tested for thousands of years - whoever crawls up to us with a sword - will put it into the anus and shove it
          It is impossible to defeat us. Do you know why? Well, let's say we are losing the war - that's all - we are khan. We will definitely take all of them with us. In addition to nuclear weapons, there are ways. For example - one such good explosion at the LIGHTHOUSE - and in a month - there will be no all of Russia, all of Asia and all of Europe. It stores 500 tons. plutonium - (besides uranium) - the most dangerous element on the planet - artificially created by man. The half-life is 24.000 years. A full 220.000 years. This will be the khan of the entire planet. A catastrophe of a planetary scale - no one will survive. Even in bunkers - 24.000 years old - you can't sit without crawling out.
        5. survivor
          survivor 3 August 2012 22: 58
          0
          and they are worth waiting for anyway. Why pay for something that you can take for free? it's not for nothing that they fence us with a missile defense wall ...
      2. urzul
        urzul 3 August 2012 15: 40
        +12
        http://4pda.ru/2011/12/31/51371/
        so for information.

        http://free-torrents.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=164501 еще тут:
        Today, CNews news agency with a note on the data of the president of the Russian computer corporation Kraftway Renat Yusupov, announced that Kraftway together with CJSC MCST plans to launch new and modern PCs using Elbrus domestic processors.
        The form factor is planning a candy bar with a touch screen of about 22 inches. The prototype of this model is the Kraftway Studio monoblock with a touch screen, which is commercially available at factories in the Moscow Region and in Kaliningrad, its cost is about 32t.rub. The cost of a PC with an Elbrus processor will be slightly higher, manufacturers say.
        See also: Russian small-sized motherboard "Monocub"



        The MCST says that they plan to equip it with a small-sized Monocub motherboard of its own design, which was introduced in 2012, with an integrated Elbrus-2С + processor operating at the 500 MHz frequency. It contains 2 cores with the Elbrus architecture, 4 DSP cores developed by the Elvis NCP and has peak performance in 28 Gflops.

        First of all, it is planned to supply monoblocks with a variant of Linux - the Elbrus OS adapted for the Elbrus architecture, the MCST says. Also, it is possible to launch the Windows family of OS on the Elbrus platform, and software and hardware technology for ensuring compatibility with x86 binary codes (binary translator) will be used, the company added.

        The party will be trial from several tens to hundreds of units of Kraftway / Elbrus devices. This project is aimed at checking the market and its reaction to similar versions of PCs of domestic manufacturers. The main buyers are likely to be departments and large private businesses, where reliability and security of information and equipment are needed. Many are already interested in this new product. The ICST says that they look at the production of monoblocks based on "Elbrus" as a "technology demonstrator" for the civilian sphere. The Elbrus platform is universal and can be applied in a variety of fields: education, telecommunications, industry, healthcare, Alexander Kim said. In his opinion, power of attorney, security and a long product life cycle can also be important in these areas.


        1. urzul
          urzul 3 August 2012 15: 45
          +8
          The new plant will produce high-quality steel, provide 1000 jobs for Tyumen residents and will be environmentally friendly, the region’s governor Vladimir Yakushev and UMMC-Holding CEO Andrei Kozitsyn told reporters at a briefing during a working visit to the plant.

          The plant is located in the city - on the first kilometer of the Starotobol'sok tract. It is being built by the Ural Mining and Metallurgical Company with the support of the Government of the Tyumen Region. The company concluded, as Vladimir Yakushev said, a standard set of investment agreements. The region provides investors with all possible benefits: on property, land and transport taxes, in the future - on income taxes.

          Substation is the heart of the plant
          The region also supported the UMMC financially: a substation is being built for 600 allocated from the budget, which will provide electricity for production.

          “We can say that this is the heart of the plant with us,” said Dmitry Semenov, head of the network and substation department. The main future energy consumers are an arc steelmaking furnace and a ladle furnace. For them, two 220 / 35 kV transformers are installed at the substation. The remaining equipment of the plant will operate from two 220 / 10 kV transformers. They were produced, respectively, at Zaporizhzhya and Tolyatti factories.

          More details here: http://www.nashgorod.ru/news/news51590.html
          1. urzul
            urzul 3 August 2012 15: 50
            +9
            At the border of Korkinsky and Sosnovsky districts, a new Verta plant is under construction. Today, Governor Mikhail Yurevich visited here, who got acquainted with the progress of construction and appreciated the prospects that promise the launch of this production in the Chelyabinsk region.

            The plant is being built by the Uralkran company, which is engaged in the production of almost all types of cranes and related equipment. The base enterprise is located in the Sverdlovsk region, but there, according to the governor, they produce large and “specific” cranes.

            “However, production is developing, the company is entering new markets. Medium- and light-duty cranes will be produced at a plant in the Chelyabinsk Region, as well as a crane kit — these are all components of the machine, including the cab, mechanical and electrical equipment, ”said Mikhail Yurevich.

            He also noted that the future plant has great prospects, because crane equipment is somehow present at every plant in the country:

            “The owners of the enterprise are true enthusiasts of their business who have penetrated into the essence of the business and are well established in the market. They have already begun to oust foreign competitors from the market due to the high technology and quality of their products. ”

            The completion of construction work is scheduled for December. From January of the 2013 year, the pilot tests of the enterprise will begin, and the plant will reach its full design capacity by the 2017 year.

            The project cost is 430 million rubles. Of these, 20% are equity, 80% is a loan from Sberbank of the Russian Federation.

            here: http://www.1obl.ru/news/ekonomika-i-biznes/na-juzhnom-urale-pojavitsa-unikalnyj-
            kranovyj-zavod-213302082012 /
            1. KA
              KA 3 August 2012 20: 55
              +2
              This is all good of course, but I meant this:

              The bulk of Russian exports in 2011 to non-CIS countries, as in previous years, were
              fuel and energy products, the share of which in the commodity structure of exports
              in these countries amounted to as much as 72,6% (in 2010 - 70,8%).
              http://www.rb.ru/blog/russianexport/showentry=1799384
        2. ZAVET
          ZAVET 3 August 2012 17: 43
          +1
          EPT WAIT !!!

          The country where the computer was invented (Lebedev) began to produce a modern processor.
          1. urzul
            urzul 3 August 2012 17: 50
            +3
            They forgot to add the first domestic one, but what did we have in our PCs in bulk? I’ve seen nothing but SEARCH Ukrainian, I’m talking about PC.
      3. baron.nn
        baron.nn 3 August 2012 15: 42
        0
        KA:
        This is nothing more than a worldwide division of labor !!! We were assigned a role, we are in this role and we are cooking ...
      4. ZAVET
        ZAVET 3 August 2012 16: 04
        +4
        As far as I understand, Fedorov wants to make the Central Bank a STATE, and not a private shop of the FRS (which is legally enshrined, the Central Bank is not responsible for Russia's debts), and the RUBLE - the national currency, and NOT a COUPON for the dollar (now the ruble is provided by the dollar, and not by the country's economy, you want print ruble - buy dollar).

        THEREFORE, MISHA LEONTIEV'S ARTICLE IS THE CLEANEST ORDER.

        Take off Misha's pants, but see who he serves)
        1. nokki
          nokki 3 August 2012 16: 46
          +4
          Take off Misha’s pants and see who he serves

          The unforgettable Grigory Klimov in the book "Red Kabbalah" advises to do so!
          1. Bismarck
            Bismarck 3 August 2012 17: 34
            +4
            nokki,
            Yes, Mython has gone bad! Why is that? Patriotic and patriotic here on you! fellow
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 3 August 2012 20: 26
          +6
          Quote: ZAVET
          THEREFORE, MISHA LEONTIEV'S ARTICLE IS THE CLEANEST ORDER.


          I completely agree with the whole post, nothing to add +
      5. volcano
        volcano 3 August 2012 16: 22
        +3
        Spacecraft
        Well, self-sufficiency through bananas and coffee (and the like) can and does take place, BUT only in a banana republic.
        And we are a truly self-sufficient country with EVERYTHING, from diamonds and gold, passing through uranium and plutonium to drinking water.
        Even though we are not Greece winked
      6. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 3 August 2012 17: 50
        +5
        We wake up with a raw material appendage exactly as long as we really need a banana or coffee. here our ancestors lived for a thousand years, just having no idea what a banana is, but we are all - nowhere without a banana! My grandmother told me how in the 70s, for the first time in my life with my grandfather, they bought green bananas and did not know how to eat them. it tasted bad, how they just left them because it was a pity to throw them out and how they ate when they matured and began to smell.
        We are a self-sufficient nation, we have a lot of apples, pears, watermelons, etc. So we will survive without bananas. The sooner we understand this, the better for all of us. A person does not need everything that the cult of consumption offers him. It should be simpler ... First of all, spiritually, because the problem of civilization is precisely in consumption, I need a car, VAZ is good, and Ford is better, but if there is a possibility then Bentley ... But the brakes to stop and understand what is on you in fact, unfortunately, we don’t need it in life ((For example, recently it happened, I had to use a classic razor with a blade in the absence of another razor, for the first time the child of the 21st century was not comfortable, and then I got used to it, continued to shave, after a month I realized the triple blade, floating heads, etc. are actually crap, and the difference is minimal, in contrast to the price of the blades themselves. You see, and so in everything, if the car, then with electric mirrors and windows, heated seats, etc. etc.
        1. Mobidic
          Mobidic 3 August 2012 21: 20
          +1
          Quote: Bashkaus
          here our ancestors lived for a thousand years, just having no idea what a banana is

          Even as we lived, I have heard more than once that in what climate a person lives, in which he should eat what grows around, then it is useful for him. And in our country there are only vitamins in everything
      7. puskarinkis
        puskarinkis 3 August 2012 23: 09
        0
        I agree! At the same time, it is worth mentioning that a rather large part of the money from the sale of PUBLIC DOMAIN - resources, ends up in specific pockets! Of course, the economy will not be completely "self-sufficient", but they are simply obliged to dictate their terms by selling what may be useful themselves! But what kind of resolute, charismatic, educated and fearless patriot should be the head of state and what powers should he have to "move these layers", "chop off the tentacles" ?! And what wave can rise? Not everyone will decide ... But gradually, but according to Their laws ...
    2. baron.nn
      baron.nn 3 August 2012 15: 41
      +3
      vadim58:
      There are all the possibilities for self-sufficiency! there is no main thing - desire. All economic levers are concentrated in "ours and ours" ... They will not allow something serious to be undertaken! Leontiev is cunning as always ... He knows how to do it!
      1. Paratov
        Paratov 3 August 2012 16: 01
        +5
        Quote: baron.nn
        There are all the possibilities for self-sufficiency! there is no main thing - desire

        And if the dollar goes down, then what will "ours and ours" do? Or do they not understand this? .. I think they understand perfectly well.
        1. Russ -
          Russ - 3 August 2012 17: 02
          +1
          And from $$$ - a long time ago - it's high time to give up both Russia and China, and not only does it matter if it is not today, tomorrow ........ will come
    3. valokordin
      valokordin 3 August 2012 17: 27
      +2
      Vadim You are right. The raw materials, which are driven abroad, do not get to the people. These proceeds from the sale are so great and where they settle the secret behind 7 seals, only the president, the prime minister, and even then not fully and a few know about them, or maybe 1 close banker. I read the book "Gas Emperor" where the author wrote that 5% of Gazprom's profits are directed in an unknown direction, it is interesting to whom and where.
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 3 August 2012 15: 25
    +8
    The article should have been called-Who is to blame, what to do. The world is undergoing changes and soon only the ashes will remain from the dollar. Refusal from the dollar system, of course, will hit us, but in another way it won’t get rid of gigimony
    1. baron.nn
      baron.nn 3 August 2012 15: 45
      +2
      Alexander Romanov:
      Will hit for sure. but no matter how we are completely covered with a blow ... We are too tied to the dollar ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 3 August 2012 16: 24
        +1
        I fused mine back in 2010, buy gold from Sberbank, there is no better and more reliable investment today!
        1. Russ -
          Russ - 3 August 2012 17: 04
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          buy gold in Sberbank, there is no better and reliable investment today

          I agree to all 100 gold, it is gold in Africa and only becomes more expensive (although this is also for the time being - if you count how much gold is on earth - then 9.000 kg per person - 9 tons for each. The problem is that it is not learned how to efficiently extract from sea water - but this is a question of the near future).
          1. Bismarck
            Bismarck 3 August 2012 17: 39
            +4
            Quote: Russ -
            The problem is that until they learned how to effectively extract it from sea water - but this is a question of the near future).

            Are there any? Narobots? wink wink wink
  3. DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 3 August 2012 15: 27
    +6
    Something for such a serious question, the article is painfully short and superficial.
    1. Russ -
      Russ - 3 August 2012 17: 05
      0
      Quote: DEMENTIY
      painfully short and superficial

      Yes, there is really nothing to say here - you need to remove all these $$$ from circulation and that's it
      I think they buy absolutely full ............ and .........
  4. sxn278619
    sxn278619 3 August 2012 15: 28
    +8
    We should follow the example of the USSR. They took out oil, sold it for dollars, immediately bought goods and equipment and brought it into the country. Commodity-money-commodity. The dollar does not cross the border. And the Central Bank will not need to buy US bonds in reserve.
  5. 11Goor11
    11Goor11 3 August 2012 15: 31
    +7
    Until they come up with an alternative to energy based on gas and oil, until then, all countries that do not have their own vast deposits will depend on those who have them.
    It’s just funny to me how many of your political "vpopulists" are trying to turn everything upside down, in their opinion it turns out that Russia depends on people like Ukraine. Wow!
    By the way, in the nuclear power industry, Russia is ahead of the rest of the world, no kidding. And whoever has energy is the king of the hill. You are a giant bear, constantly trying to convince you that you are a small mouse.
    But all this muddy nonsense about ONLY the resource Russian economy is a MYTH! 19% of GDP in 2011.
    http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/exclusive/view/64362/
    1. Paratov
      Paratov 3 August 2012 16: 04
      +8
      Quote: 11Goor11
      But all this muddy nonsense about ONLY the resource Russian economy is a MYTH! 19% of GDP in 2011

      And if you listen to our loud experts, the situation is drawn with inverse precision. Why would that be ?! request
      1. esaul
        esaul 3 August 2012 19: 32
        +5
        Quote: Paratov
        Why did it happen?!.

        Sergey, welcome. And why, buddy, that the experts "originate" from the PR masters. And the best PR masters are baked - you know where - in the states. It's their job to turn everything upside down and sell shit with the look that it is halva, Turkish delight and sherbet (wah, what an unearthly yummy oriental!) In one package.
        So it turns out that for decades we have been convinced that the giant financial pyramid, which is the current American economy, is the most ingenious invention to date.
        I join my voice guys 11Goor11,
        Paratov,
        Crumbumbes,
        to yours.
    2. Crumbumbes
      Crumbumbes 3 August 2012 16: 11
      +7
      11Goor11,

      share your opinion!
      and they also use the expression: "we are sitting on an oil needle", the expression is specially selected (since the phrase "sitting on a needle" refers to drug addiction), and already causes negative emotions.
      You correctly noted that we are not dependent, but Europe depends on us and other countries exporting hydrocarbons, they need our resources, that is, they need another dose of gas and oil ..
  6. patriot2
    patriot2 3 August 2012 15: 34
    +7
    I have a simple question for the author - $ rate:
    - 31.07.2008 - 23,48 rubles = 1 $;
    - 27.04.2011 - 27.36 rubles = 1 $;
    - installed by the Central Bank on 04.08.2012. - 32.54 rubles = 1 $
    speaks of the "slow depreciation" of the ruble or the desire to get as many rubles as possible when selling oil for $?
    Or does the author believe that by selling oil for rubles, fluctuations in the $ exchange rate will be higher?
    The numbers indicate that at: 32.54-23.48 =09.06 RUB the dollar exchange rate has grown over 4 years. The question is why? Why the Central Bank selling $ on the stock exchange cannot stabilize the ruble exchange rate, why the demand for $ is great - is it because a lot of $ leaves the country and is not invested in its economy? It turns out that $ is undermining the economic power of the state, Russia and we are feeding the states? What for?
    1. Paratov
      Paratov 3 August 2012 16: 05
      +7
      patriot2,
      We must first tear off the Central Bank from the Fed, otherwise we will be like lapdogs on a leash.
    2. Russ -
      Russ - 3 August 2012 17: 10
      +4
      Quote: patriot2
      that a lot of $ leaves the country and is not invested in its economy. It turns out that $ undermines the economic power of the state

      And you look at any pack of cigarettes - who is their owner. British American Tabacco and Philip Morris even in the Balkans and Java. and count how many smokers alone in Russia. + sportsmaster - everything American, Polaris + iPhones, iPads and other ..................
      They are only on cigarettes sold in Russia - they have trillions every year.
      And naturally - they withdraw the profits to themselves. For every pack of cigarettes bought, every Russian gives only to the needs of the American army - 5 rubles. Not weak, yes. We feed the American army. Which will destroy us - if anything. At the same time - weed ourselves - we give our hard-earned money - so that the amersky mercenary would receive salary.
      1. foxhaund31
        foxhaund31 3 August 2012 17: 51
        +2
        Russ, a very fair remark, I will add that all beer giants, red east, baltika, pit, Klin, arsenal also have foreign owners.
      2. 11Goor11
        11Goor11 3 August 2012 23: 02
        +1
        Alas, it's true about beer and cigarettes.
        But many companies that we know as foreign belong to Russians
        "How to skillfully pretend to be a foreign brand"
        http://vsiaco.org.ua/post186851371/
  7. vladimir64ss
    vladimir64ss 3 August 2012 15: 38
    +1
    It is strange to criticize what you know only by hearsay. The dollar, in the foreseeable future - a skiff. So preventive measures are required .---------- But I do not think that he made an economic discovery, as a result of which it is possible to de-dollarize a dollar-dependent economy .-------- Most likely. But you shouldn't sit back either.
  8. v53993
    v53993 3 August 2012 15: 38
    +3
    So let's sell oil for gold. Or the State Department will not allow?
  9. bachast
    bachast 3 August 2012 15: 38
    +1
    At the time, remember the article that the collapse of America is just around the corner)
  10. xmike
    xmike 3 August 2012 15: 47
    0
    "$ is undermining the economic power of the state Russia and we are feeding the states? Why?" not why, but why?

    v53993, "So let's sell oil for gold" Gaddafi tried wink


    The only thing that explains flirting with the West is an attempt to buy time and get a little stronger.
    If today you knock your boot on the podium and threaten them with your middle finger, then we are waiting not only for lists of Magnitsky, but also for total crap democratization! winked
    1. Russ -
      Russ - 3 August 2012 17: 15
      +1
      Quote: xmike
      If you knock on a shoe today

      Nuclear weapons have not yet been canceled. And there is no such force - which is able to withstand Russian missiles and warheads.
      It will be an apocalypse for everyone
  11. 53-Sciborskiy
    53-Sciborskiy 3 August 2012 15: 48
    +1
    America has no friends, only its dollar. And yet, she has no enemies,
    and there are only those who prevent her from freely selling her dollar.
  12. patriot2
    patriot2 3 August 2012 15: 50
    +3
    xmikeRussia is not Libya and Putin is not Gaddafi - that is why.
    1. strannik595
      strannik595 3 August 2012 16: 15
      +3
      agree, why are we panicking guys?
  13. Trofimov174
    Trofimov174 3 August 2012 16: 01
    +2
    I will not say that I am an expert in this matter, but isn’t the price of Russian oil calculated from the price of Brend oil, which is produced in the North Sea, while the US calculates the price of WTI oil? And doesn't Russia keep the bulk of its gold and foreign exchange reserves in Euros and not in Dollars? If so, how does the United States keep Russia on a leash?
    1. Russ -
      Russ - 3 August 2012 17: 16
      +4
      Quote: Trofimov174
      how the US keeps Russia on a leash

      Yes, none - it's all nonsense
    2. Dmitry.V
      Dmitry.V 3 August 2012 17: 20
      -1
      The party in power.
  14. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 3 August 2012 16: 24
    +1
    And one of the solutions is to create a new reserve currency (interethnic with the participation of the ruble and the main currencies of the Asian region.) In this case, the dollar will collapse faster and the ruble will suffer less.
  15. DEfindER
    DEfindER 3 August 2012 17: 40
    +2
    As long as our natural wealth belongs to a bunch of oligarchs, the ruble will not be a reliable currency, since almost all of the dolar’s ​​proceeds for oil flow to the same place as our oil, and in Russia there remains only the ruble that has not been strengthened ..

    While our elite will keep the people's money in the West, there will be no stability .. the only problem is that if we take at least one wrong step, our money can simply be taken away, as it was done with Gaddafi .. and his billions gave Europe a delay from collapse, I hope we will draw the necessary conclusions from all this .. because the money of Russia can revive any economy, not only the European one ..
  16. black cat
    black cat 3 August 2012 18: 00
    0
    Leontyev, as always, spoke with half-thought ideas in the style of Edra.
    The situation is as clear as a sunny tree stump. Imagine a Persian, Arab, Norwegian, Venezuelan, other brothers and Russians selling cigarettes at the market. All buyers are used to buying them for $ US. Trading is going well. Then the Russian says yes I do not care $ US. I will sell for rubles. The buyer scratches in the back of the head. Where to get rubles. Russian speaks exchange $ US for rubles. The buyer says that it will cost him additional costs. And to avoid additional costs, he begins to buy part of the cigarettes from a Norwegian, for example, because he is not picky and will sell his cigarettes for $ US. Then the Russian to sell his cigarettes will have to make a discount on his cigarettes in order to return the fastidious buyer.
    Well, do you need all this circus?
    1. with
      with 4 August 2012 01: 05
      +2
      Quote: gatto nero
      Well, do you need all this circus?

      I'm not an economist, but still.
      One big BUT in your post, and who produces these same cigarettes, because the buyers will smoke them and come for the next ones !!))) bully
      It is so?))) bully
      And these cigarettes go along the Nord Stream and are needed by everyone, but some Norwegians cannot provide the entire market or are not given them !! bully
      What then, you have to buy for rubles !?))) bully
  17. sxn278619
    sxn278619 3 August 2012 18: 04
    0
    Our natural wealth belongs to the people. Lukkoil's profit margin for 2011, according to their report, was only 15%. From the price of 100 d per barrel, the state takes 80 d through taxes.
  18. Castor oil
    Castor oil 3 August 2012 18: 55
    +1
    Sooner or later, it will be necessary to integrate, to one degree or another, with Europe, or at least with leading European states, and the transition to trade in the Eureka, or in the future, is probably logical (who knows this future belay ), in leading currencies such as deutsche, franc, pound ... (?) what
    After all, there are already a lot of joint projects with them in the oil and gas sector, energy, defense contacts and technologies, i.e. of what previously they couldn’t even think about, and it’s not foppish, then compromise associations are already possible? We must use this. Mutually beneficial. That is, screw the fuck from the fucking bucks. wink
    The opinion of experts is interesting. smile
  19. max111
    max111 3 August 2012 19: 01
    -1
    Another cheap throw, that we will die without a dollar and everything must be left as it is, that Russia is only a "raw material appendage" and such is its fate. It is simply not the time to change the global financial system. You need to be consistent in everything. First, it is necessary to have a strong, modern army, food and pharmaceutical security, if not by 20, then by 25, this can be done, as well as bring Russian technologies to the level of the world. The question is, when Russia will have a powerful modern industry, a strong army, how will Europe pay for these very resources. Then the time will come to talk about the global financial order and about the place of the USA and Europe in this world. Then there will be a real crisis with the dollar and it is not yet clear whether they will retain their integrity. What will Europe be able to offer to Russia, a country that will have everything of its own, instead of supplied natural gas? Cheap labor? A burial site for nuclear waste? For them, this is a nightmare, so they impose on us "Russian inferiority" and try to carry out "another democratization" in Russia, but everyone has different goals. For them, the North and South Streams are a means of siphoning resources, for us it was done through We will put them in a stall for 10-15 years
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 August 2012 19: 07
      +2
      Quote: max111
      Another cheap throw, that we will die without a dollar and everything should be left as it is, that Russia is only a "raw material appendage"

      Unfortunately, the article is about something else!
  20. makarich26
    makarich26 3 August 2012 19: 37
    +2
    Quote: Krumbumbes
    we are not dependent, but Europe depends on us and other countries exporting hydrocarbons, they need our resources, that is, they need another dose of gas and oil ..

    Of course, we are not dependent on anyone. And we live 100 times better than in Europe.
    And all is well with us. And in 2020, everything will be generally wonderful. Glory to Putin!
    1. segamegament
      segamegament 3 August 2012 22: 00
      +3
      Don’t be nervous, comrade!
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 4 August 2012 01: 18
        -1
        Don’t be nervous, comrade!

        not the right dem, it’s necessary - I will hang myself for Putin or sit on a stake...
        1. segamegament
          segamegament 5 August 2012 15: 55
          +1
          Well, sit on a stake better, just remember to post a picture ...
  21. anchonsha
    anchonsha 3 August 2012 19: 47
    +1
    Whatever one may say, but Leontyev is right. We trade in oil and gas with NATO countries, where the dollar god is. But with China, Belarus, Ukraine, other friendly countries, you need to switch to their own currencies. There are businessmen, which follows from the comments, they consider the Northern and Southern gas streams unnecessary as pumping out resources. I would like to say: “who will take gas and oil from YOU if you sit and do nothing?” Coming from the sold oil and gas keeps Russia afloat, makes it possible to live. What self-sufficiency of Russia can be without them. Add wood to oil and gas, self-sufficient. What are you going to build the country's defense on, what are your goals?
    1. His
      His 3 August 2012 22: 56
      0
      The country got hooked on an oil needle under the Soviets in the 70s, the only thing that the capitalists were ready to take from us then. It is necessary, thanks to the WTO, to try to produce more goods and fill them up with the Anlo-Saxons.
      No wonder the Americans are introducing new restrictions. You can understand them - they don't want to feed the enemy with dollars
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 4 August 2012 01: 21
      0
      and who will take gas and oil from YOU if you sit and do nothing

      Why sell raw materials, when you can sell gasoline, diesel, methane and butane, these are not raw materials, but a finished product, if you don’t want to, the same China will take all that is ...
  22. max111
    max111 3 August 2012 20: 27
    +3
    I simply expressed my disagreement with the author that we are on a short leash and that the commodity economy cannot get away from the dollar. And it is not possible to understand the article until it becomes clear what changes are proposed to be made to the law on the Central Bank, otherwise the author began with a ban on the dollar and ended up converting the ruble, I don’t think that this is what the State Duma is offered. Most likely, we are talking about the possibility of the government receiving loans from the Central Bank for infrastructure development and secured by the infrastructure itself, and not the dollar.
  23. sxn278619
    sxn278619 3 August 2012 22: 25
    0
    In 20 years, no one will need our oil and gas. Technologies for extracting oil and gas from shale will make the United States, Poland, etc. as raw materials.
  24. suharev-52
    suharev-52 3 August 2012 22: 28
    0
    Yes, Misha has been a little tricky. Well, nothing, we'll survive. Don't take it to heart. At this stage, we are bound by the law on the Central Bank. which is practically a branch of the Fed. Yes, it is necessary to amend both the law on the Central Bank and the Constitution. But! Will our elite have enough will, which really sits on a very short leash with the States? Let me remind you that the main part of our elite keeps money in the West. And all banks are practically owned by the United States and the global financial mafia. So what do you think we will be allowed to go free floating with our ruble? I doubt however. Sincerely.
  25. PSih2097
    PSih2097 3 August 2012 22: 29
    +1
    Imagine: we sell oil for rubles, there is a demand for rubles in the markets.

    it is necessary to sell not oil and gas, but end products from oil and gas, not wood, but boards and slats, and for rubles, rubles should be tied not to the dollar, but to gold, platinum, uranium, plutonium, kilowatt / hour, etc. ...
    1. survivor
      survivor 3 August 2012 23: 02
      +1
      that's right !!!! + the sale is needed, but not to sell raw materials, but the finished product ............
  26. Varies
    Varies 4 August 2012 23: 05
    +1
    withdrawal from the Bretton Woods agreement + oil and gas trading exclusively for gold = HAPPINESS)))