NASA Director: Rogozin congratulated the United States on the launch of a manned spacecraft to the ISS


During the briefing, NASA Director James Brydenstein spoke about the prospects for cooperation with Roscosmos. Recall that some time ago it became known about the proposal, which comes from the American aerospace agency. The proposal is related to joint participation in the near-moon mission. The Russian Space Agency said that they are exploring options for such cooperation in order to make a final decision.


According to James Bridenstein, US-Russian cooperation in space research will continue. NASA Director noted that such cooperation will be strong.

At the same time, Brydenstein noted that while he did not have a conversation with the head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin, but he was “familiar with his statements”.

NASA Director noted that Rogozin expressed congratulations to the United States on the fact that SpaceX launched the manned spacecraft Crew Dragon to the ISS. The Falcon 9 heavy launch vehicle launched from the 39th launch pad of the Florida Space Center at approximately 22:22 p.m. Moscow time. Initially, the start was scheduled for May 27, but was postponed. On board the Dragon are astronauts Douglas Hurley and Robert Benken. This is the first manned launch in the American space program in the last 9 years.

Elon Musk on Twitter:

Launch Falcon 9 successful! SpaceX Crew Dragon spaceship, along with two astronauts in the calculated orbit, on the way to the international space station! The step successfully sat on a platform in the ocean!



The US President congratulated Ilon Mask on the successful launch.

Meanwhile, the United States said that Trump should be especially grateful to Mask, since the launch of Crew Dragon distracts America from the events in Minneapolis.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins 31 May 2020 07: 15 New
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    It remains to congratulate the Americans on a successful launch.
    I don’t even want to recall Rogozin’s “statements”, but somewhere very deep down in my soul, I am even grateful to them for not ruining the space development programs. Bitterly, but somehow ...
    1. Insurgent 31 May 2020 07: 21 New
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      Elon Musk on Twitter:

      Launch Falcon 9 successful! SpaceX Crew Dragon spaceship, along with two astronauts in the calculated orbit, on the way to the international space station! The step successfully sat on a platform in the ocean!


      He won’t be successful!
      Like no, they rested for fifty years, gained strength after landing on the moon, and here is the success fellow - the crew was sent to the ISS ...

      "maskophiles", cons, and angry comments - I accept in any form ...
      1. Errr 31 May 2020 07: 25 New
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        Quote: Insurgent
        Fifty years rested ...
        Well, yes, on the shuttles, where they were straining. laughing
        1. Insurgent 31 May 2020 07: 30 New
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          Quote: Herrr
          Well, yes, on the shuttles, where they were straining.

          Shuttles in the technological form in which they were, in fact, turned out to be a dead end branch of cosmonautics, which the Americans themselves confirmed by stopping their operation at the end of their resources and not renewing R&D in this direction ...
          1. strelokmira 31 May 2020 07: 34 New
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            Shuttles in the technological form in which they were, in fact, turned out to be a dead end branch of astronautics

            Is it that you justify cutting a snowstorm?)
            1. Civil 31 May 2020 11: 16 New
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              Rogozin! Rogozin ... Rogozin ???? Well, sorry! lol
            2. Nemo 31 May 2020 14: 08 New
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              Do not confuse Buran and Shuttles. Although they are similar in appearance, they differ in different approaches. The shuttles themselves were supposed to be made reusable with minimal maintenance, and then it turned out that the engine compartment had to be sorted anew - almost done with 0.
          2. Errr 31 May 2020 07: 48 New
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            Not minus because you decently amused me with a half-century American vacation. smile
            As for the shuttles, despite the extreme high cost of this project, we must give them their due - to return objects from the orbit weighing up to 14,5 tons except for them, no transport system is still capable of it. Not so stupid and dead-end. And in order not to ruin the crews, it was not necessary to drive them to exhaustion. Each machine has a strictly limited resource, alas and ah. hi
            1. dima314 31 May 2020 08: 39 New
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              but they killed two buses with crews! Why and for what purpose in the age of automation do we need crowds in space except for tourism? And how much did this return from outer space cost and most importantly: who needs it? !!! Does it make sense to remove the cargo and return it back nafig?
              1. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 09: 57 New
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                Quote: dima314
                and bring it back nafig?

                And why do we need a space trash?
                1. dima314 31 May 2020 11: 09 New
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                  "Why do we need a space trash?" - as Shuttle garbage trucks were not used from the word at all)
                  1. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 11: 13 New
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                    Quote: dima314
                    "Why do we need a space trash?" - as Shuttle garbage trucks were not used from the word at all)

                    She will have to decide something. Once the satellites began to arrange accidents.
                    1. dima314 31 May 2020 11: 24 New
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                      then he praised the full-time Shuttle, and now he suffered about space debris) They did not build a shuttle for debris, please understand this). They sculpted it for cutting dough and for intimidation of the USSR, and discuss the problem of space debris on the forum at the greens, you are our disease)
                      1. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 16: 01 New
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                        Quote: dima314
                        praised the full-time shuttle,

                        This is where I praised him? Miracle in feathers.
                    2. ccsr 31 May 2020 12: 38 New
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                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      She will have to decide something. Once the satellites began to arrange accidents.

                      And what is there to decide if we have already learned how to destroy controlled space objects by introducing them into dense layers of the atmosphere for about fifty years?
                      1. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 16: 04 New
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                        Quote: ccsr
                        And what is there to decide if we have already learned how to destroy controlled space objects by introducing them into dense layers of the atmosphere for about fifty years?

                        About ten years ago, the current US satellite collided with a broken ours. Or not broken.
                      2. ccsr 31 May 2020 16: 08 New
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        About ten years ago, the current US satellite collided with a broken ours.

                        Many satellites do not have orbit correction systems - is that news for you? I talked about controlled spacecraft - you read inattentively.
                      3. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 17: 15 New
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                        Quote: ccsr
                        I talked about controlled spacecraft - you read inattentively.

                        And I write about space debris. Although we learned to destroy it 50 years ago, the most debris in space is from us.
                      4. ccsr 1 June 2020 10: 39 New
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Although we learned to destroy it 50 years ago, the most debris in space is from us.

                        This is not a fact, at least I have never seen statistics on the debris that is in orbit, especially since the orbits themselves are located at different distances from the Earth. As for our garbage, there should be more of it - the Americans flew nine years on our ships to the station, and naturally we had more launches, apart from what has accumulated since Soviet times.
                      5. Mordvin 3 1 June 2020 12: 09 New
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                        Quote: ccsr
                        This is not a fact, at least I haven’t seen statistics on the debris in orbit anywhere,

                        The answer was found by specialists from the British company RS Components, a major distributor of electronic, electrical and mechanical components.


                        They calculated that 29874 space debris was traced in the Earth’s orbit and a little less than half (14403) was of Russian (Soviet) origin. More precisely, then all satellites manufactured by the CIS countries are included in this category, but the vast majority of them are Russian.

                        Further by a large margin go the United States (8734). China (4688), France (994) and India (517).

                        These calculations include both currently in orbit and tracked debris (12425), as well as those that have already left orbit and burned out in the atmosphere (17449).

                        For example, of the thousands of thousands of debris being tracked now in space, the British have only one - there were five before, but four have already left orbit.
                        https://www.gazeta.ru/science/2020/05/12_a_13080577.shtml
                      6. ccsr 1 June 2020 13: 11 New
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        The answer was found by specialists from the British company RS Components, a major distributor of electronic, electrical and mechanical components.

                        Everything is clear - once again the "British scientists" calculated everything, and decided that half of the wreckage should belong to Russia. By the way, who owns the wreckage of a foreign satellite launched by a Russian launch vehicle?
                        By the way, the company itself surprises me - it’s not even a specialized space agency that you can trust.
                        It’s a pity that our people come across such ducks — however, I won’t be surprised at this by reading some comments on VO left by victims of the USE.
                      7. Mordvin 3 1 June 2020 15: 54 New
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                        Quote: ccsr
                        By the way, who owns the wreckage of a foreign satellite launched by a Russian launch vehicle?

                        Foreigners owned.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        left by the victims of the exam.

                        In general, I graduated from school more than 30 years ago. And I remember Leonov’s interview that we most of all dumped debris in orbit.
                      8. ccsr 1 June 2020 17: 58 New
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        And I remember Leonov’s interview that we most of all dumped debris in orbit.

                        Leonov was a master at catching up, which is why he told how we received a television program from the moon and saw the landing of the Americans, although we technically could not do it.
  2. ApJlekuHo 31 May 2020 11: 47 New
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    And why do we need a space trash?

    - Fathers, the neutron did not give a shit.
  • alexmach 31 May 2020 10: 43 New
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    Does it make sense to remove the cargo and return it back nafig?

    What if there is something useful there?
    What if someone on Earth is interested in looking attentively at a cargo discharged 10 years ago? Not out of idle curiosity, but in the context of designing the next such load, for example.
    1. dima314 31 May 2020 11: 11 New
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      somehow, without studying the devices returned from space, the entire world cosmonautics has lived for 60 years, maybe it will live so much longer)
      1. alexmach 31 May 2020 13: 04 New
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        somehow, without studying the devices returned from space, the entire world cosmonautics has lived for 60 years, maybe it will live so much longer)

        Listen, don’t la la. You probably know about the whole world cosmonautics as much as we say about quantum mechanics, or modern astronomy, or about medicine, that is, nothing at all.
        I’ve no more than a couple of months ago I watched in a museum a comet returned for some reason from outer space to take off the Earth’s surface. Americans from the moon dragged tons of rock. Space stations, among other things, have been experimenting with the creation of new materials in zero gravity, and have been conducting them for 40 years now. It's one thing to be able to use it, it’s quite another thing to get out without being able to. The availability of any opportunity for experimental science is always a big plus.
        1. Strelets1 31 May 2020 19: 07 New
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          Quote: alexmach
          I’ve no more than a couple of months ago I watched in a museum a comet returned for some reason from outer space to take off the Earth’s surface. Americans from the moon dragged tons of rock

          Hehe ... "tons of rock from the moon" - also personally observed?

          Hmmm ... people are degrading not by the day, but by the hour ...
          1. alexmach 31 May 2020 20: 50 New
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            Hehe ... "tons of rock from the moon" - also personally observed?

            Another adherent of conspiracy theories?
            They were there, and many times, and lunar soil dragged back exactly that tons. This is a fact, even if you don’t like it.
          2. ccsr 1 June 2020 10: 44 New
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            Quote: alexmach
            They were there, and many times, and lunar soil dragged back exactly that tons. This is a fact, even if you don’t like it.

            There is no need to lie - they didn’t bring any tons, and the total weight of the lunar soil was about 400 kg, and even then according to the Americans, because no one has yet received from them at least several kilograms of this soil for research.
            As for the "conspiracy theories", they were put forward by the Americans themselves, and not without reason - NASA admitted that many pictures were taken in terrestrial conditions, although they were presented as received during the expeditions.
          3. alexmach 1 June 2020 12: 10 New
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            No need to lie - they didn’t bring any tons, and the total weight of the lunar soil was about 400 kg

            Ok ... I can really be wrong, I know that they brought him not a pinch or two. Well, it turns out 0,4 tons :)
            because no one has yet received from them at least a few kilograms of this soil for research.

            Oh oh oh
            right in the Wikipedia article on lunar soil.
            Lunar soil delivered by the Apollo 11 crew (gift from the USSR from the USA), Cosmonautics Museum

            There is also a photograph from the museum of cosmonautics.
  • bocman grek 31 May 2020 13: 15 New
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    Cut a piece of gold weighing 14 tons from the Asteroid. And his home, and something else more interesting. :)
  • v.biseroff 31 May 2020 15: 16 New
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    There are metal alloys that can only be made in zero gravity due to the significant difference in weight. Breakthrough technologies however continue to be!
  • Piramidon 31 May 2020 13: 35 New
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    Quote: Herrr
    As for the shuttles, despite the extreme high cost of this project, we must pay tribute to them - to return objects from the orbit weighing up to 14,5 tons except for them, no transport system is still capable of it. Not so stupid and dead-end. And in order not to ruin the crews, it was not necessary to drive them to exhaustion. Each machine has a strictly limited resource.

    I agree, shuttles are needed and, it seems, we are already talking about the resumption of a project of something like the Buran. The only question for your comment is whether all the disasters of the Shuttles really happened due to wear and tear and overuse?
    1. alexmach 31 May 2020 20: 57 New
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      The only question for your comment is whether all the disasters of the Shuttles really happened due to wear and tear and overuse?

      Of course not. Richard Fayman, a former member of the commission investigating the disaster of '86, published his own report in the open press. It can be found in the book "What do you care what others think", the second part is devoted to the Challenger disaster. In brief, in two paragraphs it is even written on Wikipedia.
      NASA knew that launching a rocket at low air temperature was fraught with disaster, but decided to take a chance. Technicians and maintenance staff, also aware of a possible disaster, were forced into silence.
    2. silver_roman 1 June 2020 09: 39 New
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      the whole problem of Russian cosmonautics is ... besides Rogozin ... that we are just starting to create everything. And this process is endless. this applies to the word not only space. we are able to start creating, and to bring it to the end, alas (.
      federation, eagle, phoenix, hangar ... what else is there?
  • Disant 31 May 2020 13: 45 New
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    And in order not to ruin the crews, it was not necessary to drive them to exhaustion

    you joke - both Challenger and Colombia (the orbiters themselves) were not the causes of death - Challenger was destroyed by burning a solid fuel disposable side rocket during take-off, Columbia collapsed on the descent due to the fact that during take-off a piece fell off from the sheathing of a disposable launch rocket wing covering.
    There was no wear and tear on the ships themselves, and even more so - the entire shuttle program was designed for more intensive work - five times more.
    BUT, as you said,
    despite the extreme high cost of this project
    - for such money, even America did not pull its plans for one start.
    1. ak1978 31 May 2020 18: 47 New
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      In the case of the Challenger, the lateral TD rocket accelerator was just a reusable component. The tiles were also partially reusable. Actually, Crew Dragon is a return to its origins, when the capsule being lowered is made as small as possible to reduce the surface exposed to thermal effects as the atmosphere passes. This also reduces the cost of after-flight service.
      1. Disant 1 June 2020 01: 44 New
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        In the case of the Challenger, the lateral TD rocket accelerator was just a reusable component.

        Thank you for correcting.
        I do not think that a banged joint is the cause of reusability.
        judging by the Internet, after the Challenger (and even Before the catastrophe - they knew about this problem), the Americans continued to fly at random - I think there was no "exhaustion" here - there was an unrecoverable phenomenon in every new assembly.
        About tiles - well, the damage was from a foreign object. So then the main shuttle engines completely changed after several flights, as I understand it.
  • Narak-zempo 31 May 2020 08: 13 New
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    and not renewing R&D in this direction ...

    Yeah. And the Boeing X-37 does not exist, it's all cartoons.
    1. ak1978 31 May 2020 18: 47 New
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      It's about the size. X-37 is an analog of the BOR system.
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      Yes, no doubt research is underway. And Darpa is just the top of the vyberg.
  • svp67 31 May 2020 18: 24 New
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    Quote: Insurgent
    actually turned out to be a dead end branch of astronautics

    No, they were just slightly ahead of time. Turning out to be just expensive.
    Quote: Insurgent
    and not renewing R&D in this direction ...

    Again, you are mistaken, they have long and fairly successfully tested and operated their shuttle X-37

    Here is the fact that we did not renew our program for launching BORs, this is a mistake
    1. Strelets1 31 May 2020 19: 11 New
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      Here is the fact that we did not renew our program for launching BORs, this is a mistake

      Well, why - there were attempts - the Clipper RKK Energy project ... The result is as usual after the 90s ...
      "No money"...
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        Quote: Strelets1
        Well, why - there were attempts - the Clipper RKK Energy project ...

        I still know Clipper and BOR are different machines, although I understand that there were a lot of BORs in Clippers
    2. IL-2 1 June 2020 14: 53 New
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      I watched an interview with the general designer of this shuttle who said that "someone" in the 90s was ready to sell this development of the 80s (the USSR) to the Americans - he couldn’t say for sure only whether his own sold or was stolen by the Americans.
  • figwam 31 May 2020 08: 35 New
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    Quote: Herrr
    Well, yes, on the shuttles, where they were straining.

    Especially the crew of the shuttle Challenger, who was burnt alive, do not bother in 1986, they continue to work for the benefit of NASA, even Mask has no answer to this.
    1. Blackmokona 31 May 2020 09: 20 New
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      And at CERN, Gordon Freeman works a fictional character from the Half Life universe, along with his fictional friend.



      drinks Not really, there are a lot of similar people in the world.
      1. figwam 31 May 2020 09: 39 New
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        Quote: BlackMokona
        Not really, there are a lot of similar people in the world.

        When a person has the same appearance, name and surname, then a similar word is not appropriate here.
        1. Blackmokona 31 May 2020 09: 44 New
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          So here, a fictional friend is also called Barney.
          Humanity is poor in names and surnames. They called me after my great-grandfather, and I look like him. Does my great-grandfather not die in the great Patriotic war? Note the appearance, first name and last name are the same.winked
          1. figwam 31 May 2020 09: 47 New
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            So here

            Where is it here? In a computer game? I’m telling you about living people, if you’re not in the topic then google investigations of German journalists about another American fraud.
            1. bayard 31 May 2020 10: 05 New
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              You’d better put the link to that article. I read it, everything is reasoned enough and illustrated there. But people simply won’t believe the word. hi
              1. figwam 31 May 2020 10: 14 New
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                Quote: bayard
                You'd better put the link to that article.

                There is a small video
                1. 416D 31 May 2020 11: 55 New
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                  Hello. And what was the point of the Americans lying about the death of their astronauts? What were your goals?
                2. orionvitt 31 May 2020 13: 13 New
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                  Quote: 416D
                  And what was the point of the Americans lying about the death of their astronauts?

                  The fact is that Americans are lying all the time and for any reason. Whether in politics, economics, science, in general, everywhere and always. What they are constantly caught on. So ... Vague doubts creep in.
                3. figwam 31 May 2020 16: 28 New
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                  Hello. And what was the point of the Americans lying about the death of their astronauts? What were your goals?

                  This proves that there was no crew in the Challenger, and only the iron flew, as on the other shuttles.
                4. Roman123567 1 June 2020 09: 24 New
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                  And the Hubble telescope took itself into orbit, and after repair itself ..))
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                  so we smoothly came to the fact that the hub does not exist. there is only photoshop laughing
          2. Avior 31 May 2020 12: 35 New
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            Have you seen comments on the article?
            They are not alike.
            For example, look at the shape of Smith’s nose bridge, enlarged photos in the comments, or compare the width of the Japanese’s mouth with what he supposedly looks like his mouth was sewn up.
            These are different people.
            hi
  • Svetlana 31 May 2020 15: 40 New
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    Quote: figvam
    shuttle crew of the Challenger alive in 1986,

    The shuttle crew of the Columbia burned alive in 2003. The Challenger crew was alive until the moment of impact on the water.
    1. figwam 31 May 2020 16: 42 New
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      Quote: Svetlana
      The Challenger crew was alive until the moment of impact on the water.

      )))) Imagine and still alive)))
  • slipped 31 May 2020 16: 09 New
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    Quote: Insurgent
    after landing on the moon


    In general, this is even funny ... A heavy rocket launched a small boat into a low Earth orbit, which is even worse than Apollo, he knew how and did not rock the moon .... laughing Pure degradation.
  • svp67 31 May 2020 07: 23 New
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    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    I don’t even want to recall Rogozin’s remarks
    But the current triumphs remembered
    Brydenstein replied that he had not talked with Rogozin yet, but saw his congratulations from NASA and SpaceX and the statement that this is an important day not only for Americans, but also for Russians and “they believe in cooperation,” the head of NASA expressed confidence that it will remain strong. ” “Trampoline works”Musk said after that and laughed. Brydenstein laughed next, and Musk added: “This is an internal joke,” and laughed again.

    A good click on the nose ...
    I watched the broadcast of the launch. Americans are able to do shows from everything; you won’t refuse them this. But the rocket itself is beautiful. A sort of “pencil” quickly rushing into the sky and carrying a manned vehicle on its nose, the cockpit of which resembles the cockpit of an airplane.
    Congratulations to American rocket launchers on success. Well done
    1. www3 31 May 2020 12: 01 New
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      splashing water on missiles in priests for a lot of money - a bad show?))
      1. svp67 31 May 2020 18: 25 New
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        Quote: www3
        splashing water on missiles in priests for a lot of money - a bad show?))

        Well, everyone saw what they wanted there ... Someone launched a new spaceship, and someone priests
    2. artifact 31 May 2020 12: 37 New
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      Quote: svp67
      A good click on the nose ...

      and then joy ..., as much as a whole Ragozin, but on the nose ...
      Quote: svp67
      I watched the broadcast of the launch. Americans are able to do shows from everything; you won’t refuse them this. But the rocket itself is beautiful. A sort of “pencil” quickly rushing into the sky and carrying a manned vehicle on its nose, the cockpit of which resembles the cockpit of an airplane.

      you this time, probably, stand at attention with your hand on your heart and let out an enthusiastic tear in your head mentally singing "America, America"!?
      1. svp67 31 May 2020 18: 26 New
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        Quote: artifact
        already the whole Ragozin,

        No, not the whole, only his nose and tongue suffered ... what would he think next time that "the word is not a sparrow ..."
        Quote: artifact
        you this time, probably, stand at attention with your hand on your heart and let out an enthusiastic tear in your head mentally singing "America, America"!?
        You have some kind of perversion. No, I didn’t stand and there were no tears, but as a man who had long been in love with aviation and astronautics, I watched with great interest everything. It is always interesting that something new, and most importantly, a comparison with what I have already seen ...
    3. orionvitt 31 May 2020 13: 21 New
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      Congratulations to American rocket launchers on success.

      This is only Russian news coming out in the version:
      "In the middle lane and the Volga region, rains, the Soyuz launch vehicle, delivered the next international crew to the ISS."
      Exactly so, in one line with the weather, routine and everyday. And here, the whole world is on the ears, "an extraordinary achievement of human thought," "we are becoming witnesses to an epoch-making event." laughing Wow, the Americans, after nine years of inactivity, flew into space themselves, what an achievement. laughing A disgrace. Arranged from an ordinary event, a rustle of universal proportions. That's right, everything is American. It's nothing, PR is everything.
      1. Sling cutter 31 May 2020 14: 09 New
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        Quote: orionvitt
        This is only Russian news coming out in the version:
        "In the middle lane and the Volga region, rains, the Soyuz launch vehicle, delivered the next international crew to the ISS."

        But it’s necessary, “During a pandemic, friends of a friend got rich on more than one okhriniliard and pvv at the same time threw a pen, voting at the same time, but what is so little then ?!”
      2. Comrade 31 May 2020 14: 15 New
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        Well, ordinary. This is the second manned boat in the last 30-40 years, after the Chinese.
        But for the average man on earth, nothing of the sort, Trump is PR, you do not pay attention.
      3. smart ass 31 May 2020 18: 08 New
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        Ordinary event in America knocked Roskosmos?
      4. Strelets1 31 May 2020 19: 29 New
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        Quote: orionvitt
        Arranged from an ordinary event, a rustle of universal proportions. That's right, everything is American. It's nothing, PR is everything.


        Well, that you have vulgarized everything like that ... after all, "St. I. Musk" himself declared that "humanity must be proud" ...
        He should be proud of Ilon Mask - for having received a bunch of attendants and preferences from NASA and DOD, after 18 years of “works of the righteous” he repeated the achievements of the United States since the days of the German Werner von Braun ... - this is seriously. But in general I support - at least one person here on the forum really appreciated ... hehe ... a "landmark event" ...
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          Quote: Strelets1
          repeated the achievements of the United States since the days of the German Werner von Braun


          Did von Braun have returning reusable rocket stages?
      5. Quadro 1 June 2020 05: 22 New
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        I support. In the 60s they reached the moon (supposedly), and then after 9 years of inactivity the ship was suddenly launched ... into orbit! That's development! I am laughing with maskophiles, where are we, stupid Russians who fly into orbit without many years of interruption, here the Americans themselves have put into orbit!
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          why are we smart Russians flying in unions whose development began in 1962, we are still flying to the ISS, and we are STARTING to create federally, eagle, and also hangar, phoenix ships (we’re just starting to create but we don’t finish ANYTHING), but at the same time we wonder why the Americans in 2020 create their own manned ship, if in 1969 they could send a crew to the moon ???
          space science has degraded, and first of all, design thought and man himself.
    4. Irokez 31 May 2020 14: 39 New
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      Quote: svp67
      A good click on the nose.

      Yes, what a click there is a joy that finally we can do it without Russian trampolines. Put yourself in their place and you would feel the same way.
      Indeed, to say something is “Well done”, but we are not “bast shoes”, having ensured all this time delivery to the ISS with minimum accident rate is the most expensive (of people), which also deserves the word “Well done” in double.
    5. v.biseroff 31 May 2020 15: 20 New
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      You can’t say anything here - you wiped Rogozin’s nose and returned him his vicious joke about the trampoline. Young Yankees, congratulations!
      1. Antagonist 31 May 2020 19: 36 New
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        Quote: v.biseroff
        wiped Rogozin’s nose and returned to him his vicious trampoline joke

        That's for sure. Normally Rogozin was touched.
        Quote: v.biseroff
        Well done Yankees, congratulations!

        With what? With the fact that they returned to space and begin a new space race in which we will be outsiders?
    6. Gogia 31 May 2020 16: 27 New
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      It’s not even Rogozin’s matter. Here the fact is that for 25 years our space program has not had a single control and a single plan. A bunch of different projects and contests and almost nothing is brought to the end, except for the Angara. 5 ready-made Energy rockets that could be brought out by car to a DOE decayed in a hangar in Baikonur. NK-33 engines are another of Korolev’s backlogs and our lunar program (we sold them to the Americans 40 years later). All reusable projects and new manned vehicles - read about them on the VIKI either closed or simply put under the cloth in the form of drawings). Sensation that the Cosmonautics of Russia is under external control and pulled in different directions, so that the old does not die, and the new does not appear. How many Kudrin counted the embezzlement in Roscosmos? and this is only recently. If Korolev, Chelomei, Yangel would have lived to see this, then they would have been strangled by shame for our cosmonautics. If Comrade Beria was alive, the "scarecrow of Russian liberals" would have shot all these spectacular managers together with their gobbling relatives. And what would he do with Comrade. Rogozin, I can not imagine. People who for grandmothers and personal ambitions with zero abilities (meaning not the ability to steal something) have squandered such a potential, do not have the right to even come close to solving such problems.
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        Quote: Gogia
        . People who for grandmothers and personal ambitions with zero abilities (meaning not the ability to steal something) have squandered such a potential, do not have the right to even come close to solving such problems.

        “The only one who can be WITHOUT PROFESSIONAL EDUCATION in the rocket and space industry is the Director General of Roscosmos,” - D. Rogozin.
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          I'm not a fan of Rogozin ... but how many accidents and how much money was lost when the “right guys” from the industry managed the Roscosmos? It’s just that the rocket fall was in other years (((I believe the matter is in the general mess that is now being overcome with difficulty well, and in underfunding the chronic too
      2. smart ass 31 May 2020 18: 12 New
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        How great is it that you can cover up your incompetence and sloppiness with external management ?!
  • Mikhalych 31 May 2020 09: 16 New
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    Congratulate enemies with success can only be moral. . . It is as if during the Second World War Sergei Pavlovich Korolev would congratulate Werner Von Braun on the successful test of the FAU-2.
    Yes, there were people in our time, Not like the current tribe: Heroes - not you!
    stop
    1. RUSS 31 May 2020 09: 27 New
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      Quote: Mikhalych
      Congratulate enemies with success can only be moral. . . It is as if during the Second World War Sergei Pavlovich Korolev would congratulate Werner Von Braun on the successful test of the FAU-2.
      Yes, there were people in our time, Not like the current tribe: Heroes - not you!
      stop

      Private entrepreneur Ilon Musk is an enemy? What nonsense and paranoia? Then do not use the enemy’s Internet and other developments and non-Russian-made equipment
      1. Mikhalych 31 May 2020 09: 46 New
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        Private entrepreneur Ilon Musk is an enemy?

        No, you and those like you, best friend and comrade! Musk works on the power of the enemy of Russia and that’s it. Korolev used Brown's achievements, but he did not consider him a friend and did not climb with congratulations with slobbery kisses. The idea of ​​the Internet, stealth and mobile phone is not American. Quadrature modulation was developed in the USSR before the war. The Americans took advantage of this discovery for color television and did not bother at all. Although to whom am I saying this?
        1. RUSS 31 May 2020 10: 07 New
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          Quote: Mikhalych
          Although to whom am I saying this?

          tongue
          1. Mikhalych 31 May 2020 12: 31 New
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            Demonstration of intelligence excellence exam.
            1. Chever 31 May 2020 14: 24 New
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              And over such patients as you just laugh and you can ... And you need ...)))
              1. Mikhalych 31 May 2020 15: 02 New
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                What else can you do?
                1. Chever 31 May 2020 18: 30 New
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                  Fair. But this question is relevant to everyone, including you
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              Quote: Mikhalych
              Demonstration of intelligence excellence exam.

              And, so you are from the "victims of the exam," in vain you flaunt it ...
        2. Kronos 31 May 2020 10: 47 New
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          Musk develops technologies useful to all people. Brown developed rockets during the war purely for military purposes.
          1. Mikhalych 31 May 2020 15: 03 New
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            That's about all the people I really liked. Write it to the Serbs, Iraqis, Lebanese, Syrians. . .
            1. Gogia 31 May 2020 16: 31 New
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              What did the Syrians, Lebanese and Iraqis do for human civilization and science? They have changed almost nothing over the past 500 years. The same tribal relationship. Tribes and Tribes. Everything on myself, to which I reached. You are comparing Dick with Finger ...
              1. Strelets1 31 May 2020 19: 43 New
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                Quote: Gogia
                What did the Syrians, Lebanese and Iraqis do for human civilization and science? They have changed almost nothing over the past 500 years. The same tribal relationship. Tribes and Tribes. Everything on myself, to which I reached. You are comparing Dick with Finger ...

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                Hehe ... here really - an example of an individual representing both a member and a finger = in one bottle ... really, why are there Syrians, Lebanese, Persians, Iraqis ... not a single useful gadget ... for the last 500 years Jobs, Bryn, Musk and others ... the contribution to world science is priceless ...
                PS Just please, I don’t need to tell me the origin of the computer keyboard, monitors, etc., etc. I feel - again you will not guess ...
          2. IL-2 1 June 2020 17: 49 New
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            Mask does not develop ANYTHING - he is a shareholder (and evil languages ​​claim that he is no longer the main one) Gwyneth leads there, other people - there is a lot of cooperation and industry over 100000 people. Part of the Spase X launches and their Starlink program are implemented in the interests of the Pentagon.
            And the fascist bastard SS Sturmbannfuhrer Werner von Braun, the organizer of the creation of the FAU 1 and 2 missiles (while killing 20000 prisoners of war) and with whom thousands of people were killed, also created part of the military and the entire peaceful space in the USA, including the US lunar program.
        3. orlec 31 May 2020 13: 09 New
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          That's for sure! And traitors like Rogozin and Putin allow our damned enemies to fly in OUR ships, to OUR station, and for their damn dollars, scum laughing
          PS Sorry, it seemed to me alone that some "Mikhalych" was stupid - or not?
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        4. Dikson 31 May 2020 14: 25 New
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          All is correct. The Americans took advantage .. But for some reason we didn’t .. They used a lot of things .. but it’s obvious that the decisions of the 24th Congress of the CPSU did not allow ordinary washing machines to rivet in factories? And automatic gearboxes for cars, and power boosters .. and air conditioners in cars .. For it’s not good for the Soviet people to relax .. and the Russian shouldn’t be either .. Therefore, we don’t have a new ship either ... - but what the hell? -Old Unions fly! In them, literally shoulder to shoulder, knees firmly pressed to the cheeks, as in Zaporozhets, selflessly loving the Motherland, our people are conquering outer space .. And our people are worthless luxury .. Like the "extra" horsepower in engines, which we never learned to do .. German military machines already do not meet standards .. tolerances have changed and technology .. But the Americans are still bad .. It is because of them that everything turns out crookedly .. Imperialists are damned ..
    2. The leader of the Redskins 31 May 2020 10: 02 New
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      We declared war on the USA? To space? Illan Mask?
      Strange, but half a century ago Gagarin and the USSR all congratulated and were not shy! ...
    3. svp67 31 May 2020 10: 09 New
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      Quote: Mikhalych
      Congratulate enemies with success can only be moral. . .

      You look "maidan" in the brain happened.
      Quote: Mikhalych
      It is as if during the Second World War Sergei Pavlovich Korolev would congratulate Werner Von Braun
      What kind of war? Where is this ship launched? Not to the INTERNATIONAL Space Station? What are you talking about?
      And how do you like this, "hero" Are you ours?
      This document is designated - No. 35 - a telegram from the German Ambassador to the USSR Schulenburg at the German Foreign Ministry:
      "Telegram
      Moscow, 18 June 1940 - 1.40
      Received June 18 1940 - 4.00
      1167 No. of 17 June
      Very urgent!
      Molotov invited me to his office tonight and expressed my warmest congratulations to the Soviet government. on the brilliant success of the German armed forces (this is on the occasion of the Germans entering the city of Paris). .....
      Schulenburg "

      Quote: Mikhalych
      Yes, there were people in our time, Not like the current tribe: Heroes - not you!

      Do not tell ... Are you a "hero"? "Bogatyr" who profiled the whole country? God save us from such "heroes"
      1. Mikhalych 31 May 2020 15: 13 New
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        Do not tell ... Are you a "hero"? "Bogatyr" who profiled the whole country? God save us from such "heroes"

        Not everything that was going on in the USSR was perfect. You are illiterate, the word heroes is in the plural. How did you dream that I wrote about myself. Do not worry, such as you "heroes" of her "dopukaete". And then there is no one to stop you.
        1. svp67 31 May 2020 15: 20 New
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          And then there is no one to stop you.

          Of course, especially living in the Baltic states, where you really need to. You can only "moan" ...
    4. Bshkaus 31 May 2020 11: 06 New
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      Congratulate enemies with success can only be moral. . .

      only moral as you put it "...." They can see their enemies in everything.
      People rejoice and congratulate each other, first of all, with a new level of technology, which the Americans now have several goals higher than the technologies of Soyuz, and in a sense it seems fantastic.
      1. Mikhalych 31 May 2020 15: 17 New
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        You stupid person or where? The USA imposed sanctions against us, trying to finish off the economy, OFFICIALLY included Russia (and the PRC for one) in the list of its enemies, and here you are talking about some kind of joy in the blizzard. It is a pity that profanity cannot be used. However, take a look at your photo wassat
        1. Bshkaus 31 May 2020 20: 28 New
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          It's a pity you cannot use profanity

          I’m sorry that you are not trained in other words. Nevertheless I will explain, try to concentrate and understand:
          The country that launched the first man into space no longer exists, but people continue to fly into space using these technologies.
          Once the United States will not exist, but people will continue to use the technology developed by them.
          Who invented the wheel there? Something I did not hear that someone would refuse this invention only because his prp-great-ancestors were at enmity with the tribe of the inventor.
    5. New Year day 31 May 2020 15: 12 New
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      Congratulate enemies with success can only be moral. . .

      do not want to continue?

      Quote: Mikhalych
      It is as if during the Second World War Sergei Pavlovich Korolev would congratulate Werner Von Braun on the successful test of the FAU-2.

    6. v.biseroff 31 May 2020 15: 33 New
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      Please take into account that space exploration is not a war, as you may put it, but a technology competition, where the success of some is an incentive for others to be no worse, or even better, when studying an opponent. We know our Achilles heel, we are unlikely to start itching until it becomes a matter of archival and archival importance for the nation and then we hit the horn and do it quickly, efficiently, inexpensively (choose 2 points out of three :)) Isn’t that so?
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      You are likely to see a doctor
  • Grading 31 May 2020 09: 26 New
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    Here again, a fraudster and a nonspecialist and almost bankrupt, Ilon Mask shot a film in the Hollywood hangars about a nonexistent and irrevocable rocket !!!!!!! good
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      yeah. next season we are waiting for a porn version
    2. Starover_Z 31 May 2020 11: 45 New
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      Elon Musk made a film about the non-existent and irrevocable rocket in the hangars of Hollywood !!!!!!!

      That link no longer works, I found another, but it is for a full 4 hours.

      Ha .... It turned out to be a broadcast of the canceled launch ....
    3. Quadro 1 June 2020 05: 27 New
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      Well, that’s all, the Americans did what they had been doing before for decades, but did it after a break of 9 years, now it’s possible to scream from each iron about what kind of breakthrough Musk made and how Russia suddenly falls behind (although why should she be left behind, not she stopped flights for 9 years).
  • Sklendarka 31 May 2020 09: 29 New
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    It remains to congratulate the Americans on a successful launch.
    I don’t even want to recall Rogozin’s “statements”, but somewhere very deep down in my soul, I am even grateful to them for not ruining the space development programs. Bitterly, but somehow ...

    ,, ... a trampoline works for the initiates ... '' / Elon Musk /
  • Grading 31 May 2020 12: 40 New
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    Earthlings - Grass by the House - Elon Musk sings / The Earthlings - The Grass of Home - Elon Musk sings
  • pytar 31 May 2020 12: 51 New
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    It remains to congratulate the Americans on a successful launch.

    Congratulations to the Americans for a successful launch and wish them a successful mission!

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I don’t even want to recall Rogozin’s remarks

    Let’s remember and see how incompetence and over-conceit can lead to ...
    1. pereselenec 31 May 2020 14: 56 New
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      [quote = pytar] [quote]
      [quote] I do not even want to recall the "statements of Rogozin" [/ quote]
      Let’s remember and see how incompetence and over-conceit can lead to ...
      [/ Quote]

    2. pytar 31 May 2020 15: 04 New
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      Let's see when the answer is Boeing with his StarLiner!

      Unfortunately, there is no reason to talk about Rosskosmos.
  • Grading 31 May 2020 12: 51 New
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    A Brief History of Space x
  • Irokez 31 May 2020 14: 35 New
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    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    I don’t even want to recall Rogozin’s “statements”, but somewhere very deep down in my soul, I am even grateful to them for not ruining the space development programs.

    Why not remember something? Everything was said on time and at the right time when our partners really could not launch their own exceptional ones into space. After all, Rogozin did not say that they would depend on us forever, no, he didn’t, and everyone knew perfectly well that they would catch up. For nine years, they were catching up, and finally another power has learned to send people into space on their own.
    Bravo is another member in an elite club.
    1. New Year day 31 May 2020 15: 19 New
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      After all, Rogozin did not say that they would depend on us forever, no, he didn’t, and everyone knew perfectly well that they would catch up. That's nine years old and caught up

      Rogozin said this last time a little over a year ago with a mockery, accusing Mask of incompetence. Now Musk showed "hoo hoo"
      1. Quadro 1 June 2020 05: 31 New
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        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: Irokez
        After all, Rogozin did not say that they would depend on us forever, no, he didn’t, and everyone knew perfectly well that they would catch up. That's nine years old and caught up

        Rogozin said this last time a little over a year ago with a mockery, accusing Mask of incompetence. Now Musk showed "hoo hoo"

        Musk and Rogozin are talking heads. Of course, they were great fellows who finally started flying like many years before the break of 9 years, but the United States simply inflates the PR bubble around Mask, exposing it as an “effective private trader,” while forgetting to mention the support of NASA, Boeing and other huge and serious companies. What they showed is precisely the efforts of American corporations and NASA, and not specifically Ilona.
  • New Year day 31 May 2020 14: 50 New
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    I don’t even want to recall Rogozin’s remarks

    But why? Such "masterpieces" must be remembered ..

    for they point to the foolishness and ignorance of the question by those who MUST know this
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      Quote: Silvestr

      But why? Such "masterpieces" must be remembered ..

      for they point to the foolishness and ignorance of the question by those who MUST know this


      Leave behind Rogozin, a man wanted to sit in the House of Trade Unions, and not to engage in space.

  • smart ass 31 May 2020 18: 06 New
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    It would be better for Rogozin to follow the bazaar and think to whom he would push RD 180
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      It would be better for Rogozin to follow the bazaar and think to whom he would push RD 180

      that’s how they launched the Mask rocket into space ..
  • Antagonist 31 May 2020 19: 23 New
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    Bitterly, but somehow ...

    Bitter, insulting, annoying ... What can we do if our government pays more attention to oil and gas than to the space program ...
  • Greenwood 31 May 2020 07: 16 New
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    A new stage in the development of manned space exploration. Musk hammer of course. I well remember how he was scummed and said that he would not succeed.
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      Quote: Greenwood
      I well remember how he was scummed and said that he would not succeed.

      Well, so this is our long tradition! When you are sitting in deep opera yourself, you need to defame your opponent. And the soul is calmer, and, it seems, you yourself look decent.
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      A new stage in the development of manned space exploration. Musk hammer of course.

      Musk made Cosmos closer. He set another step for Mankind!
      I well remember how he was scummed and said that he would not succeed.

      And they continue! Envy, immense thing!
    3. Overlock 31 May 2020 16: 49 New
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      Musk hammer of course.

      two people - Mask and Rogozin. One from the trampoline came to the latest missiles, and the other from Soviet missiles moves to the trampoline. Fate request
    4. Quadro 1 June 2020 05: 34 New
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      A new stage in the development of manned space exploration. Musk hammer of course. I well remember how he was scummed and said that he would not succeed.

      Well, straight super-duper is a new stage. 50 years ago, they landed on the moon, and then into orbit, where they had flown to their home before, but of course, a “breakthrough”. Nothing better than the cheers-patriots, only the cheers-maskophiles.
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        Quote: Quadro
        50 years ago, they landed on the moon, and then into orbit, where they had flown to their home before, but of course, a “breakthrough”.

        You are one of the few who know how to separate the grain from the chaff, and most here can only respond to the words "Rogozin, Mask, Roscosmos, NASA" and draw their own homegrown conclusions. Specialists already understand that this is just PR, and technically Musk repeated what we have been doing for fifty years, but in a more attractive package and taking into account the current level of technology. It reminds me of the hysteria of some of our "experts" about the first shuttle flights, and only subsequently NASA admitted that the program was a failure at first, because incorrectly calculated the cost of restoring shuttles and annual loading. What will happen to the Mask ships later when they make at least 20-30 successful launches, and how far he will go in creating a rocket for flying to the Moon and Mars.
  • Theodore 31 May 2020 07: 19 New
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    Rogozin, under Stalin, should have shot himself! But! People like him will never do this ...
    1. 210ox 31 May 2020 07: 26 New
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      It’s not a matter of Rogozin, but of the System that has flourished in our magnificent color. A few decades ago, a person like him would surely be in his place a successful journalist, would be at the head of some sort of publishing house ..
      1. Narak-zempo 31 May 2020 08: 05 New
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        a successful journalist, would be at the head of some sort of publishing house

        Like A.Yu. Krivitsky
      2. Borisych1973 31 May 2020 12: 11 New
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        like him would surely be in place

        It seems that P is now right in its place, because the tasks that were set before the head of Roscosmos are not the development of astronautics, but the delaying of time and the preservation, as far as possible, of a beautiful mine in a bad game. The cosmonautics of the current Russian government is not needed - only troubles and extra expenses. But you can’t quit - this is one of the braces, people will not understand. So they put a journalist at the helm, who only knows how to talk about castles in a confident tone. Time passes, and there you look, or the donkey dies, or padish (God forbid) ...
    2. RUSS 31 May 2020 08: 15 New
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      Quote: Theodore
      Rogozin, under Stalin, should have shot himself! But! People like him will never do this ...

      Everything in the Kremlin suits the general, therefore Rogozin’s bribes are smooth.
    3. mikhailovich22 31 May 2020 09: 42 New
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      Rogozin, under Stalin, should have shot himself! But! People like him will never do this ...

      Rogozin said about the trampoline in 2014, for 6 years the Americans launched astronauts from the Russian trampoline. Judging by the outfits of the astronauts, NASA, as it were, did not have to reserve seats in Roscosmos for 2021.
      1. Interlocutor 31 May 2020 13: 24 New
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        Speak correctly. And there is.
      2. cniza 31 May 2020 13: 26 New
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        Judging by the outfits of the astronauts, NASA, as it were, did not have to reserve seats in Roscosmos for 2021.


        Why such a conclusion, share ...
        1. mikhailovich22 31 May 2020 14: 48 New
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          Quote: cniza
          Why such a conclusion, share ...

          They are kind of light for space, in my opinion.
          1. pytar 31 May 2020 15: 19 New
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            They are kind of light for space, in my opinion.

            This is not a spacesuit for open space! It is a safety suit providing enhanced protection and convenience during transitions from launch to orbit and vice versa. In emergency situations, such as depressurization during take-off or landing, these costumes will save the life of astronauts. Having entered orbit, they have already taken them off.

            Here is the suit, it is much heavier and it is not as comfortable as in transition suits.
    4. AU Ivanov. 31 May 2020 10: 48 New
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      Afanasyev and Mishin after the failure of the Soviet lunar program did not shoot themselves, for some reason. True, it was in the reign of Brezhnev.
      1. paul3390 31 May 2020 12: 01 New
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        Because the Soviet lunar program did not fail, but was canceled by the leadership.
        1. AU Ivanov. 31 May 2020 12: 08 New
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          Canceled after the fiasco with the H1 rocket. Failed were all 4 launch attempts. If you want, you don’t want, but cancel.
          1. paul3390 31 May 2020 12: 29 New
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            So what? Four attempts is by no means an indicator for new technology. Moreover, each time the reasons were different. So they cleaned them. Avon at the Mace - how many failed starts? But does it fly? In general, by the time of cancellation, the N-1 was almost already practically worked out and ready. Americans are still flying on its engines .. But why the program was canceled is an open question.
          2. Mikhalych 31 May 2020 12: 35 New
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            And the Americans, after the failed attempts with Apollo, immediately planted people there and immediately to the moon.
            http://www.free-inform.narod.ru/
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              http://www.free-inform.narod.ru/

              Mikhalych, you are a plus. I myself thought to refer to Veluurov if I did not see in the comments.
              Forum users: read, you will not regret it - very informative! Add the name - "Ashtrays fly to the moon."
          3. ccsr 31 May 2020 12: 51 New
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            Canceled after the fiasco with the H1 rocket.

            By the way, not being a specialist in space technology, I’ll still notice that Musk chose about the same layout for his SpaceX ship as the N-1, and which he plans to launch to Mars. True, the second stage already has four unsuccessful trials, which is why it is interesting to know when Musk plans to test the entire system in order to start the moon in 2022.
            Starship is the second stage of SpaceX's reusable BFR space transport system. The second stage will receive six Raptor engines, first - 31. Raptor, which runs on methane and oxygen, is the largest thrust-weight ratio (the ratio of thrust developed by a power unit to its weight) among all rocket engines ever created.
        2. Interlocutor 31 May 2020 13: 26 New
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          All is correct. Because to do there not figs. Well, there are no immediate tasks there. There is even nothing really to take. Everything will be expensive and don’t sew one place to another. But for show-offs probably useful ....
      2. New Year day 31 May 2020 15: 23 New
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        Afanasyev and Mishin after the failure of the Soviet lunar program did not shoot themselves, for some reason.

        so Yangel in 1960 after an explosion in Baikonur with the death of about 100 people with Nedelin did not shoot himself! True, Brezhnev was not at the helm then
    5. Vadim237 31 May 2020 11: 31 New
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      Since 2018, in Roskosmos Rogozin, in the chair of the head - it’s clear that apart from beautiful promises on the mountain of any space projects, he won’t do anything in two years.
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        L.P. Beria stayed in the chair of the head of the "atomic project in the USSR" for a little longer than three years. However, this yielded results. By the way, before him there was Molotov in that place. I did not manage, they took it off. And they didn’t even shoot them (that's because the trouble is that the characters have a pattern gap like Olgovich).
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          Yes, it’s only between Beria and Rogozin and their industries - the huge abyss of the USSR for the atomic program squeezed everything that was from the whole country for this, since it was a vital need, and now the space industry is not so vital for Russia and they allocate money for it accordingly, there’s no incentive to create something new in this industry; therefore, everything has been bent there for the last 30 years; Rogozin alone will do little there alone when everyone else in this industry does all the fun.
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            the last 30 years alone Rogozin will do little there alone

            want to say that the reformer was not funded? laughing Who built Vostochny and how much was stolen?
            Identified theft by the Prosecutor General at the enterprises of "Roskosmos" and "Rostec" volume 1,6 billion are insignificant and will not affect the career of the head of the space corporation Dmitry Rogozin. This was stated by "URA.RU" political analyst Andrei Kolyadin, commenting on the report of the Prosecutor General Yuri Chaika, who entered the Federation Council.
            This is how much they found, but how much they did not find or did not want. Something always hinders a bad dancer
          2. New Year day 31 May 2020 15: 44 New
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            one Rogozin alone

            According to the results of the verification carried out at the enterprises transferred to the Roskosmos Group of Companies in 2018, the claims of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation concerned the expenditure of 785 billion rubles out of 1,74 trillion.
            Is it also alone or in a group? laughing
            The monthly salary of the head of Roscosmos in 2018 amounted to about 2 million rubles, while the salary of the head of NASA in terms of rubles was 1 million rubles.
            All is not enough Rogozin? laughing
            1. Vadim237 31 May 2020 17: 38 New
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              785 billion out of 1,740 trillion - this is how many years the amount has not been allocated to Roscosmos per year since 2010 or 2006 - in 2018 Rogozin just sat in the chair of the head, so your complaints about the construction of the East and other waste were sent to the wrong person.
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                in 2018, Rogozin only sat in the chair of the head, so your complaints about the construction of the East and other waste were directed to the wrong person.

                Rogozin was the curator of the construction of the East.
    6. pytar 31 May 2020 15: 35 New
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      Rogozin, under Stalin, should have shot himself! But! People like him will never do this ...

      shoot himself, hang himself, punish - the USSR
      Tough competition - USA
      make ambitious plans, cut the budget and do nothing - RF
      The whole point of different systems. lol
  • Break through 31 May 2020 07: 24 New
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    We are happy for the Americans! They tried their best. We also need to return the astronauts to earth. And make at least 10 manned launches. Then it will be safe to say that the Americans returned to the club of manned powers. Then the Chinese will catch up, Europeans, Japanese and someone else who can launch people.
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      We also need to return the astronauts to earth. And make at least 10 manned launches. Then you can safely speak
      Somewhere I already heard it:
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        And what, it is not necessary to return? Well done anyway?
      2. Interlocutor 31 May 2020 13: 29 New
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        You have not heard that. You read it on the Internet, exactly on the same plate. Her jokers threw her somewhere.
      3. New Year day 31 May 2020 15: 27 New
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        Quote: Greenwood
        Somewhere I already heard it:

        who is the author of this "wisdom"?
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        Quote: Greenwood
        Quote: Break through
        We also need to return the astronauts to earth. And make at least 10 manned launches. Then you can safely speak
        Somewhere I already heard it:

        And the believers in the Unified State Examnik all believe that he is colonizing Mars. Despite the fact that there are no conditions for living or for terraforming there. Even water is unfit for drinking.
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      Then the Chinese will catch up


      Isn’t it yet? belay Or should they "go to the second round"?

      There are 11 Chinese "teikunavtov" at the moment, there is a woman among them ...
    3. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 31 May 2020 07: 48 New
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      The Americans have already let people in more than everyone else put together. I think they will definitely ask you.
    4. Vadim237 31 May 2020 11: 32 New
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      The United States has three more manned trampolines to varying degrees in testing and readiness.
  • vadimtt 31 May 2020 07: 25 New
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    So quietly, the "beautiful far away" died in one country and moved completely to another. What can I say to people who stole this "far" from me? Censorship will not pass.

    PS: I watched the entire broadcast yesterday. I was glad for the Americans that continue to move forward.
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      Now cry crying
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      Quote: vadimtt
      PS: I watched the entire broadcast yesterday. I was glad for the Americans that continue to move forward.

      Forward to the past?
    3. Disant 31 May 2020 14: 33 New
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      explain what died and what moved
      1. mikhailovich22 31 May 2020 15: 05 New
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        Quote: Disant
        explain what died and what moved

        The shuttles died and Shepard moved from 1961 to 2020.
    4. Quadro 1 June 2020 05: 42 New
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      Quote: vadimtt
      So quietly, the "beautiful far away" died in one country and moved completely to another. What can I say to people who stole this "far" from me? Censorship will not pass.

      PS: I watched the entire broadcast yesterday. I was glad for the Americans that continue to move forward.

      "Move forward". I got this feeling at the collection of kindergarteners who do not even know school history. So far, no forward movement has even been seen - they simply returned to where they left 9 years ago. And the Russian Federation didn’t even go anywhere, but you already repent and dust your head with ashes, they stole "far" from you. Comments the apogee of hypocrisy I look.
  • Gennady Fomkin 31 May 2020 07: 25 New
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    Next time they will launch two dogs or a companion. And this day will be a national holiday. laughing
    1. Kronos 31 May 2020 10: 50 New
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      When there is nothing to answer to the triumph and shame of Russia, but as an ex-patriotic bourgeois ordinary,
      1. Interlocutor 31 May 2020 13: 32 New
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        What a shame of Russia. Wake up. Shake your head and shake the husk out of it. And close Facebook, look and the "war" will end.
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          Shame in Rogozin
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            Quote: Kronos
            Shame in Rogozin

            What is the shame of Rogozin? Probably overweight, fat he.
        2. Quadro 1 June 2020 05: 44 New
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          What a shame of Russia. Wake up. Shake your head and shake the husk out of it. And close Facebook, look and the "war" will end.

          Shame on Russia for not stopping its flights for 9 years. How you lured the wretched and miserable. Hypocrites. Now all your guise is open. They’ll do it in the Russian Federation - “steal” “some kind of crap”. They’ll do it in the USA - “Well done Mask made a breakthrough”, “this is a shame of Russia” What shame then I ask again? Or are you suggesting we shoot down their missiles?
    2. Vadim237 31 May 2020 11: 36 New
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      The next time they will launch the super-heavy SLS rocket, the manned lunar ship Orion, and then fly to the moon in 2024 - 26, this will become a new national holiday - and you will continue to write all kinds of garbage.
      1. Grits 31 May 2020 13: 11 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        The next time they will launch the super-heavy SLS rocket, the manned lunar ship Orion, and then fly to the moon in 2024 - 26, this will become a new national holiday - and you will continue to write all kinds of garbage.

        I think the next step will be to gradually squeeze Russia out of the ISS. They now absolutely do not need us. They will wring out the ISS. Although, having received all the competencies in the orbital stations, they themselves may well build one for themselves. Unlike us, we simply won’t pull financially. As a result, we will remain with our trampoline of development forty years ago. Only there will be nowhere to fly on them.
        We have no new manned ships, no new carriers (all the more heavy), no orbital station. And you can forget about the Moon or Mars.
        And so the sunset of glory of the once cosmic power comes. And the fact that the rich Americans will nevertheless bypass us an order of magnitude - there was no doubt. Because unlike the Mask obsessed with ideas, we have Rogozin, obsessed with cutting money.
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          Quote: Gritsa
          Quote: Vadim237
          The next time they will launch the super-heavy SLS rocket, the manned lunar ship Orion, and then fly to the moon in 2024 - 26, this will become a new national holiday - and you will continue to write all kinds of garbage.

          I think the next step will be to gradually squeeze Russia out of the ISS. They now absolutely do not need us. They will wring out the ISS. Although, having received all the competencies in the orbital stations, they themselves may well build one for themselves. Unlike us, we simply won’t pull financially. As a result, we will remain with our trampoline of development forty years ago. Only there will be nowhere to fly on them.
          We have no new manned ships, no new carriers (all the more heavy), no orbital station. And you can forget about the Moon or Mars.
          And so the sunset of glory of the once cosmic power comes. And the fact that the rich Americans will nevertheless bypass us an order of magnitude - there was no doubt. Because unlike the Mask obsessed with ideas, we have Rogozin, obsessed with cutting money.

          Well, I read some fiction directly. Do you believe in these tales? Even the Americans themselves want to get rid of the ISS, it’s too expensive and already everything that could be tested there has been tested. It is easier for them to suck in their share to someone, rather than squeeze out the RF from there. And about the obsessed with ideas, Mask laughed. It’s already funny from the cheers of the Americanophiles, and the kindergartners are naive. Musk is a product of American public relations, a symbol of "private enterprise in the USA", "an effective manager and private trader." And behind his back are giant corporations like Boeing and the state-owned NASA.
  • evgenii67 31 May 2020 07: 29 New
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    Rogozin, wiping his tears, wrote a congratulation while sitting on a trampoline. Well done Musk! Yes, and we would have our own Ilona Korolev, but somehow they don’t particularly take root, very many are looking for happiness with a foreign country and are being realized there to the fullest.
    1. Greenwood 31 May 2020 07: 38 New
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      They are, they just move to work in the same SpaceX Mask or to Bezos or to the Boeing. There are many variations.
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      1. Vadim237 31 May 2020 11: 39 New
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        Korolev did nothing to him from scratch, the whole USSR helped him with big money, materials, equipment, specialists and everything else.
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          the whole USSR was helped by big money with materials, equipment, specialists and everything else

          Did Musk do everything himself? Wake up. fool
          1. Vadim237 31 May 2020 14: 49 New
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            Really - finish thumping. He organized everything himself, starting from the office and ending with launches; everything that is created and built in his office does not do without his last word. And it is he who creates the strategy and technical priorities of the company’s movement in which 7000 people work.
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              Really - finish thumping. He organized everything himself, starting from the office and ending with launches; everything that is created and built in his office does not do without his last word. And it is he who creates the strategy and technical priorities of the company’s movement in which 7000 people work.

              Stop sucking in American PR for kids. It’s sick to read such nonsense. Specialists in this area do not grow on trees and you simply can’t buy them. Musk is a product of American PR, a symbol that "America can still!", An image for the state, supposedly "a country of unlimited possibilities, you can even send people into space." But at the same time, everyone evasively forget about the huge support from NASA, Boeing and other large companies with mission-critical technologies.
      2. New Year day 31 May 2020 15: 29 New
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        do not confuse the swindler Mask with the Royal!

        Did you see the result? Or is it cartoons?
  • Gennady Fomkin 31 May 2020 07: 29 New
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    check and mat, wool. next time they will fly in full and throw Russian things from the station) laughing
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      check and mat, wool. next time they will fly in full and throw Russian things from the station) laughing

      You are not even in space, but soon there will be no state on the map ...
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      check and mat, wool. next time they will fly in full and throw Russian things from the station) laughing

      Clear business, at you, now and Musk will be a native of Ukraine. winked Download it quietly, or something else will fall off, like the Crimea.
      The real check and checkmate, for you, was in '14. And here is rivalry. Fine.
    3. Pavel73 31 May 2020 07: 59 New
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      Your only astronaut once trained on the Buran, flew on the American Shuttle, and passed away not so long ago. Not you to mock over us.
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      Well, you, Raguli, do not shine at all in space, and your 404 too
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      Bake buddy?
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      Whom "you" are thrown and why, m?
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      check and mat, wool. next time they will fly in full and throw Russian things from the station) laughing

      And your hohland then brought at least one ship into orbits? You are a great omeriga cheer patriot than its citizens.
  • viktor_ui 31 May 2020 07: 34 New
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    The event is extremely significant ... a manned private space program with all its effectiveness under the patronage of NASA ... and Houston has no problems. We are waiting for the docking and a successful return from orbit. The difference between chatter and deeds is OBVIOUS.
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      We are waiting for the docking and a successful return from orbit. The difference between chatter and deeds is OBVIOUS.

      And the Unions have been flying and docking and landing for several decades. So it is OBVIOUSLY so many Americans suffered from chatter. What is their breakthrough - in that they equaled Russia with the technical level of space flights?
      1. RUSS 31 May 2020 10: 46 New
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        What is their breakthrough - in that they equaled Russia with the technical level of space flights?

        You just compare the Dragon and the Union, - reusability, price, capacity, etc.
        1. dima314 31 May 2020 11: 46 New
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          I don’t know about the price, depending on how you count, the Unions got a gift with all the infrastructure from the USSR, and the mask was presented to NASA. Reusability but not passenger, but only by truck and let them prove to themselves that it is good and profitable. Capacity Why do you need it? 3 people are taken to the ISS and there is nothing to do there, and because of the boredom of garbage, they are toiling. Automation does all the necessary and useful, and this is like a prestigious group of aerobatic pilots for the show. Although if 7 people, but they say that Mask has messed up and more than 4 people will not fit at this stage, they will be killed at a time, then there will be more noise than if 3.
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          You stick to the price of the Dragon flight, for a start the price of creation. Look at the price tag. Cry Well, as for the price of the flight of the Union. You look and the price of the flight will change. After all, Russia does not have a monopoly on the launch of astronauts. Market. What do you want ... That's great, by the way.
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            Well, then the cost of creation must be stuck to the Union, as well as how much the Queen was beaten after arrest.
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              as well as how much the Queen was beaten after his arrest.

              How much does it cost?
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          Quote: Genry
          What is their breakthrough - in that they equaled Russia with the technical level of space flights?

          You just compare the Dragon and the Union, - reusability, price, capacity, etc.


          Well, the Americans have a newer ship. It should be better. It would be strange if he created an analogue of the ship leading his family tree from the 60s. Now 2020 is kind of like. They flew 6 years on our ships and nothing, no shame. Why now, suddenly, when they caught up with us, such a stir has risen?
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        A breakthrough in comparison with us in everything is the first reusable step; returnable fairing flaps; reusable cargo and manned capsule ships with an integrated rescue system; and most importantly, minimal costs both in terms of money and time to create and test all of the above, reducing the cost of putting the cargo into orbit.
        1. Disant 31 May 2020 14: 55 New
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          A breakthrough in comparison with us in everything

          Vadim, there is a breakthrough, and not for our money. You wrote correctly about the money, but no one saw or saw the checks - how much they put in our ears in the media, so-called reusability will cost.
          .. The first reusable stage - do you know the number of re-launches and the difference in cost and maintenance and fishing of the reusable stage and the similar (in terms of the usefulness of the output load) ordinary one-time?
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            Considering that he has a growing client base every year - with the cost everything is in order and the organization of the production of rockets for the engines of satellite Internet ships and everything else is compact enough for only 7000 people, plus adjacent offices for components there is no such bloated staff as Boeing and Lockheed with huge bonuses to leadership and slowness in solving those problems, that’s why Mask is getting cheaper and faster still add 70% of the cost of the first stage of the entire rocket, one of which has flown five times and eaten the payload and you will get even greater economic efficiency here any cost of service will be repeatedly covered by profit.
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              Vadim, well, you see - no one will give you any real numbers - this is not even a commercial secret - but a state one
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          and most importantly, the minimum cost, both in terms of money and time, for the creation and testing of all of the above, a reduction in the price of putting the cargo into orbit.

          And how much did this manned spacecraft fly into space? At the expense of minimum costs and minimum terms, it’s not even funny, since 2004, the Americans created a manned ship.
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            Yes, since 2004, the Americans created new manned ships, but until 2011 they flew on the Shuttles, so work was slow, and at the moment they have four manned ships with Dragon 2. On Falcon, 9 NASA cargo drags and manned dragons paid Mask as much as our government allocated from the budget for the Angara.
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              work went slowly

              Abama generally scored a bolt on this. Russia also had brilliant rulers
      3. pytar 31 May 2020 16: 05 New
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        And the Unions have been flying and docking and landing for several decades. So it is OBVIOUSLY so many Americans suffered from chatter. What is their breakthrough - in that they equaled Russia with the technical level of space flights?

        The progress of the Americans is impressive! The technological level is new, incomparably higher than that of Rosskosmos, a breakthrough in fundamental approaches! And this is in a very short period! There’s much more to come!
        For comparison ... the USSR / RF ... The same rocket, the same spaceships with which the Queen was created, although modernized.
        1. Genry 31 May 2020 17: 05 New
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          The technological level is new, incomparably higher than that of Rosskosmos, a breakthrough in fundamental approaches!

          What is this new level expressed in? Just do not need about the many-fold manned flights - here you always need guaranteed reliability, which is unrealistic for used ones (worn shuttles have already ditched their crews).
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            What is this new level expressed in? Just do not need about the many-fold manned flights - here you always need guaranteed reliability, which is unrealistic for used ones (worn shuttles have already ditched their crews).

            A new level is expressed in many ways, but whether you like it or not, the main thing is a sharp reduction in the cost of startup costs! It was achieved just thanks to many-fold! Speaking of shuttles and falcons, one must realize that these are completely different concepts! Technology reusable shuttles did not lead to cheaper, but a set of! With spicex, the result of the cost reduction is obvious! The effectiveness of the spicex system is obvious! He has felled orders, he has stirred up competitors!
            As for guaranteed reliability, you're right of course. But here, falcons cope with 5+! The future will show, it is already in sight! The space industry is moving to a new step, Elon Musk has set milestones!
            1. Genry 31 May 2020 19: 20 New
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              the main thing is a sharp reduction in the cost of launches! It was achieved just thanks to many-fold!

              Where did you see the price drop? For his military, Musk made launches twice as expensive as commercial ones, which is due to political PR and does not reflect the actual cost of the launch. Why, with loud statements about cheapness, did his competitor Boeing not go into the shadows? This shows that they have close costs.

              Well done: you have good Russian, but many mistakes in cases.
              1. pytar 31 May 2020 19: 39 New
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                Where did you see the price drop?

                I read somewhere that in the cost of launching missiles, more than half goes to the first stage. Everything else - 2 items, fuel, etc., is less than 40%, if not mistaken. Obviously, if the most expensive element can be used several times, then the cost of launches is reduced. Spicex is still trying to reduce costs, for example, taking away for repeat Repeater, and even Crew Dregon himself, reusable! Probably the development of such advanced technologies is more expensive, but the final result is a decrease in the total cost. Just like no one makes airplanes, ships, cars, disposable ones, the same principles are valid. The problem was in the level of technology and in the search for an effective approach, but as we see Mask succeeded. A simple market law applies - cheaper, more orders, more profit. Soon everyone will follow the same path, otherwise they will go bankrupt.
                Why, with loud statements about cheapness, did his competitor Boeing not go into the shadows? This shows that they have close costs.

                The states have a special approach to ensuring continuous competition! The catch is to prevent someone from becoming a monopolist. And while the Boeing is clearly losing, NASA will not let it drown. Someone should push Ilona, ​​breathing in his back. You can see this approach by the example of Intel and AMD - the most severe competitors in the world of processors. They were legally obliged to help each other if one of them breaks ahead too forcefully.
                Well done: you have good Russian, but many mistakes in cases.

                Thank you, in principle, Russian and Bulgarian are close, Slavic languages. But in Bulgarian / conditionally / there are no cases, therefore I confuse.
            2. mikhailovich22 31 May 2020 21: 37 New
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              The future will show, it is already in sight!

              China will win.
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                China will win.

                All things are possible.
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              The Future Will show

              To assess the real reliability and efficiency, you need to wait for the results of approximately 33 launches. In the meantime, the future has not come yet.
              1. pytar 1 June 2020 00: 14 New
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                To assess the real reliability and efficiency, you need to wait for the results of approximately 33 launches.

                I don’t think we should wait for exactly 33 launches. In general, it’s better not to wait, but to work like Elon Musk.
                In the meantime, the future has not come yet.

                For some, yes ... they live in the past.
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                  Work, of course, is necessary. Work, and the Soviet manned flight program has proven its reliability. Reliability is the most important criterion in space exploration. How and how did the previous US state super-duper program end? Private business is not able to create systems that can be used for flights to the ISS. Do you believe in Mask, I do not. For you, Mask is an icon, but I believe that this is a DARPA mask. If the project proves to be a failure, the US state will not be held responsible for this.
                  1. pytar 1 June 2020 13: 21 New
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                    ... and the Soviet manned flight program has proven its reliability. Reliability is the most important criterion in space exploration.

                    Undoubtedly! To the campaign, this is the only plus, which still remained in the assets of the Unions. If you take into account the reliability of the entire program, there are more questions ... By the way, Falcons are also very reliable! You can ride a penny on Lada for another 100 years, but the world does not stand in one place! Everything that was once new becomes old.
                    How and how did the previous US state super-duper program end?

                    As with the Soviet Buran and the Lunar Program! Shuttles and Apollo at least made a bunch of flights.
                    Private business is not able to create systems that can be used for flights to the ISS.

                    But it turns out to be capable! One is already active / spicex /, the second / Boeing / on the way! On the topic of assimilation of Cosmos, many more private companies are working.
                    Do you believe in Mask, I do not.

                    It’s not a question of faith, I see the results! The whole world sees! But I certainly don’t believe Rogozin!
                    For you, Mask is an icon, but I believe that this is a DARPA mask. If the project proves to be a failure, the US state will not be held responsible for this.

                    In such a strategic, high-tech industry, the state has weighted interests! The question is how effectively it implements them. In the given case, the circuit is quite working!
                    Again, back to Rogozin and his "team." In my opinion, for a long time it was necessary to look for responsibility from him and from those who were before him!
        2. Motorist 31 May 2020 17: 20 New
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          The progress of the Americans is impressive!

          Boyan, hello! hi You forgot to attach photos of Bulgarian rockets. lol
          1. pytar 31 May 2020 18: 05 New
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            Boyan, hello! You forgot to attach photos of Bulgarian rockets.

            There are no Bulgarian missiles, but there is a Bulgarian satellite - BulgariaSat-1. Launched in geostationary orbit with the Falcon9 rocket on 23.06.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX.

            As for rockets, Bulgaria is a member of the ESA and participates both in agency programs and with its own programs. Until 2018, 5 national projects were implemented, and another 9 were at different stages of preparation. hi
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              It is a pity that there are no Bulgarian missiles - I would also like to compare ... Maybe, at least Musk is a Bulgarian from his grandmother? Just do not understand the reason for pride [if you do not understand from the first comment].
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                Just do not understand the reason for pride [if you do not understand from the first comment].

                You don’t understand a lot of things and probably don’t understand, even though there is a "captain of evidence" ... lol I will explain on the fingers. I am always happy when someone else has success in space! Unions watched on TV, back in the distant 70s. I did not miss a single launch! There was something to rejoice at! Half a century has passed, Alliances are the same, but much new, interesting is happening in the world! I will definitely watch and be happy when Rosscosmos also has this! good
                Too bad there are no Bulgarian rockets

                Not only Bulgarian, but most of the countries of the world. Therefore, they cooperate, so it’s more efficient to work. Bulgarian companies, BAN fulfill the order as part of the ESA cooperation.
                Maybe, at least, Musk is a Bulgarian from his grandmother?

                I was not interested in what kind of grandmother, aunt or grandfather he had. It does not matter. Musk man is undeniably talented, breakthrough, was able to change one of the most high-tech industries! Thanks to him, Cosmos has become more accessible for those who previously had no opportunity. It's cool, it's great! good
                1. Motorist 31 May 2020 19: 11 New
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                  You don’t understand much and probably don’t understand

                  I do not dare to distract anymore. hi
                2. Quadro 1 June 2020 06: 01 New
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                  You don’t understand much and probably don’t understand

                  As you do not understand that the real value, no one will tell you, the naive Bulgarian youth.
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                    Quote: Quadro
                    As you do not understand that the real value, no one will tell you, the naive Bulgarian youth.

                    Cuadro, you have instructed your comments of the same type, where they are different by the way. laughing They wrote but did not read ... When I was a young man, you most likely did not even exist in the idea. This is judging by the naivety of your posts. bully I'm not going to enter into a dialogue with you, I'm sorry, it's not interesting. request
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                  Quote: pytar
                  Musk man is undeniably talented, breakthrough, was able to change one of the most high-tech industries!

                  Quite the opposite: a very controversial thesis. One person is not capable of these "breakthroughs." Moreover, an emigrant from South Africa who did not receive a fundamental education (I respect South Africa). And Rogozin, by his education and experience, has nothing to do with technology at all (I respect technology and progress).
                  In short, soon we will see for ourselves, but for now all this is a show.
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                    One person is not capable of these "breakthroughs."

                    And who is saying that ?! The talent is to have a fellow, organize high-tech activities from scratch! Many abilities are needed, including serious knowledge on the subject of applied sciences!
                    Moreover, an immigrant from South Africa who did not receive a fundamental education

                    iouris, an intelligent person like you would look through a hot wiki! It says:
                    He entered the University of Queens in Kingston, where he studied from 1989 to 1991. Then he transferred to the University of Pennsylvania to study business and physics. Received a bachelor's degree in economics and a bachelor of physics.
                    But besides education, you need the natural talent of a discoverer, which Ilon undoubtedly possesses! If we look at the ego of the career, it is full of innovation.
                    About Rogozin I do not want to comment. It's a shame.
                    In short, soon we will see for ourselves, but for now all this is a show.

                    Spicex commercial company. The show is obligatory, it pays off. Yes, and there is something to show!
  • FRoman1984 31 May 2020 07: 35 New
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    Congratulations to Space X!
    Rogozin with his stupid joke turned into a laughing stock. Well, now "your answer, Comrade Mauser?"
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      Rogozin with his stupid joke turned into a laughing stock.
      To be honest, he was all the way. To put at the head of the country's rocket and space industry an ambitious under-journalist who has not worked as an engineer for a day in his life is simply a shame.
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        To put at the head of the rocket and space industry of the country a short-sighted under-journalist who has not worked as an engineer for a day in his life ...

        but wasn't it before? Golikova - accountant - Minister of Health, professor-cardiologist Skrynnik - Minister of Agriculture, etc. etc. This is the leader’s personnel policy request
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      the Mauser’s barrel was blown off ... well, this Mauser was hollow because the next future has come and is accelerating on the rise. The mood is just fire!
    3. Disant 31 May 2020 15: 21 New
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      Rogozin with his stupid joke turned into a laughing stock.

      it was not a joke - it was a response to American sanctions against Roscosmos, which delivered the Americans to the ISS.
      therefore, the Americans trained on their trampoline until they assembled the dragrend.
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      Rogozin with his stupid joke turned into a laughing stock. Well, now "your answer, Comrade Mauser?"

      How small, elementary little people rule now in Russian Space, it is possible to judge by their reaction:
      Roscosmos "called incomprehensible" tantrum "about the launch of Crew Dragon - "The hysteria that arose after the successful launch of the Crew Dragon ship is not very clear. Something happened that should have happened a long time ago," wrote the official representative of the state corporation Vladimir Ustimenko on Twitter.
      https://news.mail.ru/society/42002364/?frommail=1
  • Kisa 31 May 2020 07: 38 New
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    and I remember Dima Rogozin expressed something else when he was vice prime minister after the American accident, advised them to get on a trampoline, after which he put Dima to steer the space and graduated from the journalism department of Moscow State University))))
    1. dima314 31 May 2020 11: 48 New
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      would you at least strain your brains and find out when the Shuttle burned out and when and for what reason Rogozin spoke out! Or are you scolding and your time starts in 2014? Rogozin in response to amer’s sanctions said, and when the accident happened he had nothing to do with space
    2. Interlocutor 31 May 2020 13: 39 New
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      and I remember Dima Rogozin expressed something else when he was vice prime minister after the American accident, advised them to get on a trampoline, after which he put Dima to steer the space and graduated from the journalism department of Moscow State University))))


      After the Crimea, he offered them this. He reacted to the provocative question of journalists.
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      Quote: kitty
      and I remember Dima Rogozin expressed something else when he was vice prime minister after the American accident, advised them to get on a trampoline, after which he put Dima to steer the space and graduated from the journalism department of Moscow State University))))

      Hohlotroll. He talked about trampolines about the Amer’s militia that they would give up our engines and about their sanctions.
  • FRoman1984 31 May 2020 07: 38 New
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    They are well done, the first step is returnable.
    I think, but will we not degrade after 50 years in space? We fly projects, products, and, as a result, in the Unions with Protons.
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      We have long been degrading in terms of technology and I won’t even list what has been lost since the collapse of the USSR ... Rogozin’s project to build a skyscraper in Moscow in the form of either a rocket or a male one that caused visible from orbit, we will remember for a long time as an example of wretchedness flight of the technical thought of the “taxiing henchman”. I. Musk and his team hammered a hefty nail ... no, not to Roskosmos, but to the mediocre masturbation of talkers and peacocks ... because you are not KOROLEV SP and come on Svidos.
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        And somehow SpaceX can do without a huge multi-story office in the center of Washington. They do not even have plans for such a construction.
        Most of all, SpaceX headquarters reminded me of only 5 of them in the Krasnodar shopping center. It looks the same from the outside, but the content and result are, to put it mildly, different.
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        No, you list the technologies lost since the collapse of the USSR - very interesting.
    2. donavi49 31 May 2020 08: 34 New
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      The next significant event in space is Beck with Photon (tentatively June-July). For the first time, a small rocket will be able to perform the functions of a serious launch vehicle, just not on a large scale. This will open up new possibilities, for example, small companies will be able to start sensing the moon (including high-resolution photos of landing sites, if this aspect hurts, you can already finance some short-lived rubbish bin).


      Then the end of July - the launch of Tianwen, the first Chinese Martian mission with an orbital module and a landing platform, where the rover is installed.


      Next is another American private missile, but very pragmatic and conservative, and also not in the 500- category, but immediately at 1t for ultra-low, 630 for standard, with the development of the family in the future.

      1. RUSS 31 May 2020 09: 12 New
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        Vatniki and cheers- patriots zaminusut you
      2. ccsr 31 May 2020 13: 43 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        This will open up new possibilities, for example, small companies will be able to start sensing the moon (including high-resolution photos of landing sites, if this aspect hurts, you can already finance some short-lived rubbish bin).

        Why is it for small companies - can you think of something?
    3. Interlocutor 31 May 2020 13: 42 New
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      They are well done, the first step is returnable.

      I'm afraid to make a mistake. It seems to me that there is no need to make return feet. The Americans took a step over 400 km. In 400 km we may already have the territory of another country, or taiga. Maybe I'm wrong.
  • regdan 31 May 2020 07: 39 New
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    Congratulations. And I wish all the enemies of Russia who are like Rogozin and his sonless mediocrity to die soon.
  • Ros 56 31 May 2020 07: 39 New
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    But what will they return to or Musk will send one missile for them? fellow Before you enter, think about how to exit. Doesn't it suggest any thoughts?
    1. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 08: 29 New
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      But what will they return to or Musk will send one missile for them?

      On what flew, on that and will return.
    2. voyaka uh 31 May 2020 09: 42 New
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      Dragon Crew and Dragon Cargo are one and the same. Only added
      emergency engines and crew air supply system.
      Cargo Dragons have already flown back and forth (returning cargo from the ISS)
      19 (or more?) Times.
      1. Maxwrx 31 May 2020 11: 28 New
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        There it is not so. Dagon 2 is a new ship in the passenger and cargo versions. and he flew for the first time in 2019. And the first version of the dragon is no longer available and made the last flight. I read somewhere that from the first version no more than 20% of the equipment.
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    What can you say?
    We must honestly congratulate the Americans on a new stage in their space programs.
    And astronauts, a successful return.
    PS I looked at the posts in the News section. It somehow strange happened that the news about which the Internet writes and shows about appeared on the VO with reference to Rogozin, and even then second-hand.
    It would be possible to deliver an independent message about this, and not in relation to Rogozin.
    1. RUSS 31 May 2020 08: 25 New
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      After the pilot successful launch of the Mask a year ago, Dmitry Rogozin announced the start of preparations for competition in the market for manned launches. In one of the interviews, he, in particular, lamented that the Russian state corporation should test a new manned ship, "which actually should have appeared much earlier." “And he will appear in 2022. And the carrier for him - a new rocket, which is not yet available, Soyuz-5 - will be by this time. Now we are dispersing the first money throughout the cooperation, the work has begun, ”Rogozin said frankly in April 2019.
      1. Vadim237 31 May 2020 11: 53 New
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        Union 5 Irtysh most likely will fly only after 3 years and the manned eagle in 2025.
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          Union 5 Irtysh most likely will fly only after 3 years and the manned eagle in 2025.

          need to live. That's when it flies, then there will be evidence of the competence of Roscosmos. Bye, these are just words ...
  • anjey 31 May 2020 07: 42 New
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    NASA Director noted that such cooperation will be strong.
    Sly, History shows that in the end it’s competition, competition, and again competition laughing .Fighting and competition is the engine of progress!
    1. donavi49 31 May 2020 08: 44 New
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      In fact - if you look at the number of developed missiles in the world now. That begs the question, and where to take so much load ??? This year, only a dozen new LVs should fly (part will go to the next course). Felling for each order will be more serious than for the sale of each smartphone now. And here, taking into account the sanctions and inflexible policies, it will be quite difficult for Roscosmos to take at least 1-2 launches for dollars a year.

      Plus, the Chinese entered the global launch market and began to eat orders there. They offer very tasty conditions, loans, etc. This year they have:
      pack of argentinian satellites in summer.
      Indosat (Indonesian satellite) launched
      another pack of Argentine satellites launched in January

      3 launch foreign load. For comparison, Roskosmos 2 Oneveb (and all, bankrupt) and the UAE satellite in the fall. If you do not take the French from Kourou.
      1. Vadim237 31 May 2020 11: 55 New
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        That's just for the exploration of the moon and the extraction of mineral resources on it, the organization of the Internet and communication in its orbit - all these rockets will be useful in the future for mini satellites they can deliver.
      2. orionvitt 31 May 2020 13: 49 New
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        offer delicious conditions

        All "tasty conditions" in the field of space launches, exclusively due to state funding. Such a kind of space dumping, in order to capture the markets and dump the competitor. History is as old as the world. Not a single private owner can ever compete in space with government programs. The so-called "commercial launches", without additional funding, are always unprofitable. And what kind of mask is the financing of NASA and the state, the help of specialists and others, they prefer to remain silent about this, exposing it as "a genius of all time."
        1. shahor 31 May 2020 15: 51 New
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          And what kind of mask is NASA and the state funding,

          The difference between Musk and Roscosmos is that funding from the Musk state is received in the form of a contract to solve a specific problem - delivering people to the ISS. Musk received the contract not just like that, but according to the results of the competition, in which there were 5 participants. Remained 2- Boeing and Musk. Due to this contract and commercial launches (the amount of which Musk overtook Roscosmos), the current activities of the company are financed and income tax is paid. Roscosmos is sitting on the state budget, due to which it is trying to survive. Roscosmos employs 250 thousand people. Mask has 6 thousand.
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            Mask has 6 thousand.

            Are you out of your mind? Have you ever been involved in production at all? Six thousand, this is an average tractor, or bicycle factory, but not a space enterprise. Space is an entire industry, in which hundreds of thousands of people, thousands of enterprises and many billions of dollars are involved. And leave the tales of the "genius", who in the "garage on his knee", built something breakthrough (in our case, a rocket), to small children. Well, or continue to believe in these tales yourself, if you have not yet grown. Striped only on the development of the F-35 invested almost a trillion bucks, and this is a trifle, compared with space.
            1. shahor 1 June 2020 13: 58 New
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              Six thousand, this is an average tractor, or bicycle factory, but not a space enterprise.

              You're right. I was wrong. Today, on the Gazeta.ru resource, the number of employees in the Spacex Mask company is defined as "... less than 8 thousand." About 1,5 thousand jobs added. Do you feel better? But seriously, it has long been known that production efficiency does not depend on the number of employees. That in terms of labor productivity in industry, Russia lags behind those of the United States by ... 6 thousand people at a bicycle factory and 250 thousand shock workers in Roscosmos. Therefore, Musk, with his "less than 8 thousand," is a billionaire and successfully builds ships, and Ragozin is also ... not a poor person, although he builds the East, models of the same ships and tells tales. Oh yes, he also developed a project of the building of Roscosmos, which has no analogues in the world, in the form of ... well, you understand me, and demonstrated it to the whole country.
              1. orionvitt 1 June 2020 14: 52 New
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                Do you feel better?

                To me? Just because of my age and life experience, I, unlike you, know how everything works. But on the Internet, everything is very simple and clear. No need to think.
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                  To me? Just by virtue of age and life experience, I, unlike you, know how everything works
                  В
                  They always liked people who, by virtue of their age and what they call life experience, know everything, understand everything. The trouble is that until they reached the age they didn’t understand anything, but they did it — oh-go-go! Due to my age and my experience, I came to the conclusion that Socrates was right - I know that I know nothing. Therefore, when he was younger, he looked for an answer, for example, in books. Now I use the Internet and quietly envy you, everyone has already found out, everyone has understood ... Is it boring, probably, to communicate with unreasonable humanity? Here our President said that after the death of Gandhi there is no one to talk to. You probably have the same problems. Sorry.
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                    Now I use the Internet

                    It can be seen. It would be better, as before, to read books. And about Socrates, please do not. Judging by your judgments, you deeply believed that you know everything in the world. And do not lie about age. 30 years, this is not even maturity.
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                      And do not lie about age. 30 years, this is not even maturity.

                      Well, thanks for the compliment, but to me, actually, 66. And where did you see from me a hint of my omniscience? On the contrary, I emphasize that I don’t know and don’t understand that much. Therefore, I rummage through books and actively surf the Internet. And, excuse me, I like people like Mask, they are in eternal search, they want to understand how everything works and use it to the benefit of people. Musk is doomed to success and failure - the goal is unattainable, but his contribution to progress will be huge. And there are people who already understood how everything works. They are calm and confident in their infallibility. From them, perhaps ... there is no harm. I hope this is not about you.
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                        And, excuse me, I like people like Mask, they are in eternal search, they want to understand how everything works and use it to the benefit of people. Musk is doomed to success and failure - the goal is unattainable, but his contribution to progress will be huge.

                        Do you still believe that industries like astronautics depend on the energy of one person? I regret you, once in 66 years you still did not understand what teams of professionals in such fields as astronautics are doing now, and if there is an appropriate base built on the experience and knowledge of past generations. And the fact that you speculate on the figure of 8 thousand working at Mask at the last stage of assembly, contrasting the number of all Roskosmos, once again convinces me that you just do not understand how it all works in such a complex area as space, which another opponent rightly pointed out to you . You yourself have at least an idea of ​​where Musk came from and his entire corporation, whose base it still uses and how successfully he does business, if so far he has achieved the results that we had already fifty years ago.
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                        if so far he has achieved the results that we had already fifty years ago.

                        Well, firstly, about 50 years ago you did not achieve anything. What a strange way to give yourself the right to meaningfully broadcast on behalf of the country. I, too, a great connoisseur of the organization of production ... About 50 years ago, Americans flew on the Apollo if you forgot. And they created a Saturn-moon rocket, the analogue of which the great Korolev failed to create. Why is a separate topic. So Musk could well have an American backlog as a role model. But in practice, he fulfilled the terms of the contract with NASA, creating a system for the delivery of astronauts to the ISS. No more, no less. The system is obviously much more modern and more practical than the Union. And about 50 years ago, the USSR had returnable stages?
                        And don’t say that Heavy Falcon Musk copied
                        from Proton .... As for your hysteria about the number of Mask employees, it only indicates a dense view of modern production. There is no need for a mask, unlike Roscosmos, to rivet everything yourself. Based on a powerful team of design engineers and technologists, a contract with NASA, he can order the necessary components according to his specifications from a specialized company. Why do it yourself if there are people who have been doing this excellently for many years? The whole world is already taking this path — look at the production of Vulcano light rockets in Italy, the same rockets in New Zlandia ... The list goes on. And the person is Korolev. What would Soviet space be without him? He is both a manager and a constructor. And Kurchatov is the same. Like Musk. If there are no such people, Rogozins appear. And cardboard rocket models.
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                        Well, firstly, about 50 years ago you did not achieve anything.

                        I participated in the seventies in the LCI of the Almaz battle station - the Americans still have not created anything like this, and even do not have their own orbital station, apart from the muddy story with Skyleb.
                        Quote: shahor
                        About 50 years ago, Americans flew on the Apollo if you forgot.

                        Well, why still do not fly on them, if they have Saturn-V only in the museum?
                        Quote: shahor
                        And they created a Saturn-moon rocket, the analogue of which the great Korolev failed to create.

                        In fact, Mishin was the designer of this rocket, because the Queen was not alive even at the beginning of the first tests.
                        Quote: shahor
                        There is no need for a mask, unlike Roscosmos, to rivet everything yourself. Based on a powerful team of design engineers and technologists, a contract with NASA

                        And then consider all those who worked for the Mask creating its media, just speculate on the number of Roscosmos.
                        Quote: shahor
                        And the person is Korolev. What would Soviet space be without him? He is both a manager and a constructor. And Kurchatov is the same. Like Musk.

                        Well, you lied without blushing - you can’t compare the Mask with either Kurchatov or Korolev, because he is a pygmy on their background.
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                        Well, you lied without blushing - you can’t compare the Mask with either Kurchatov or Korolev, because he is a pygmy on their background.

                        The scale of man is known over the years. Musk is in his prime. I think he will have time to do a lot of things. And they will give him an assessment after us. And your hostility to the Mask is explained, in my opinion, by the unreleased scoop. Here Mikhalkov-Konchalovsky had a film-Chicken-pock. The bottom line in a nutshell. At the beginning of the era of free enterprise, a peasant in a Russian village decided to raise chickens. I didn’t sleep at night, didn’t drink, didn’t eat, things went decently earned, but worked hard. Guys-type-cash began to come! He- why is this? Well, you, like, earned, share! He- come to work for me! Crying well! No one went. They began to poison. Like this? His, rustic, but works, earns a lot, lives better than anyone! And it should be like everyone else! There you are. Why is he! Private trader! I decided to earn in space! We tested Diamonds, and he stole everything from us - and the billionaire. And we - with bare well .... in old age! I understand, the complexes torment. Resentment. Do not be angry! Help a better grandson get a good education. He will be able to get to work for the Mask- and learn a lot! Health!
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                        And they will give him an assessment after us. And your hostility to the Mask is explained, in my opinion, by the unreleased scoop.

                        Tell at least one breakthrough technology that Musk created and what it consists of, or that he created one that was not there before. You can do it easily, since you don’t have a scoop ...
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                        Tell at least one breakthrough technology that Musk created and what it consists of.

                        Well, offhand, Raptor. Methane engine. On tests showed a record pressure in the combustion chamber. But, in my opinion, the achievement of the Mask is in another. For the first time, on a large scale, he showed a new model for creating space systems and space exploration. Where is the customer state. Look, in the USA there is Blue Origin with its BE-4 engine, developed by Glenn missiles. There is a Virgin with its reusable Shepard, who is already ready to fly with tourists. In the end, there is a competitor to the Boeing Mask, do you have doubts that their Starliner will fly the other day? Just choose! Compare with our model, where budget funds are pumped into Roscos, like a bottomless pit, and cardboard mock-ups, promises, and a new office project come out. For shovels do not be offended, nothing personal. Our generation comes from where there was good and bad. I hope our grandchildren will only have good.
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                        Quote: shahor
                        Well, offhand, Raptor. Methane engine. On tests showed a record pressure in the combustion chamber.

                        This is not an indicator, much less a revolutionary discovery, but just a type of jet engine fuel.
                        Quote: shahor
                        For the first time, on a large scale, he showed a new model for creating space systems and space exploration. Where is the customer state.

                        This is an organizational trick and there is nothing new in terms of doing business.
                        Musk did not start from scratch and can be compared with General Groves from the Manhattan Project.
                        Quote: shahor
                        In the end, there is a competitor to the Boeing Mask. Do you have doubts that their Starliner will fly the other day? Just choose!

                        That's when the accident rate flies and compare, the cost of delivering a kilogram to orbit, and then we will say how much they overtook us.
                        Quote: shahor
                        Compare with our model, where budget funds are pumped into Roscos, like a bottomless pit, and cardboard mock-ups, promises, and a new office project come out.

                        Have you ever wondered why we have such a system and where did it come from? Do you even understand that Roskosmos is associated with our military-industrial complex and not everything that it receives goes to manned programs.
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                        Do you even understand that Roscosmos is connected with our military-industrial complex and not everything that it receives goes to manned programs.

                        Of course. That's why there is a closed part of the company's budget, which is not supposed to be known. We don’t even know how big it is.
                        About the revolution. The methane engine is not a new fuel. This is an engine with a long cycle of work — its Masters master for flying to Mars — as an option. And the return steps, for the first time in space, is not a breakthrough? And the fact that Dragons are reusable is a repeat of the development of Roskosmos? Well, a statement on the topic here once and then ... in general became a meme. Have you seen a tablet on the Internet with this multi-stage skepticism? Does it make sense to step on this again? The problem is that civil space in Russia today is not a priority. Hence the level of funding. sloppy personnel policy. Hence, the wangyu, the inevitable lag in the next 20 years.
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  • slipped 31 May 2020 16: 19 New
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    3 launch foreign load. For comparison, Roskosmos 2 Oneveb (and all, bankrupt) and the UAE satellite in the fall. If you do not take the French from Kourou.


    The ICA cluster from Glavkosmos was forgotten. lol There will be many devices. In general, there are still many launches before the end of the year.
  • pytar 31 May 2020 16: 52 New
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    In fact - if you look at the number of developed missiles in the world now. That begs the question, and where to take so much load ???

    Just in response to market demands, there are so many companies developing services in Cosmos. Many participants, healthy competition, success will not be late!
    Tough times await Rosskosmos, in the form of an ego of inefficiency and chaos reigning in a state-owned company.
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      Tough times await Rosskosmos, in the form of an ego of inefficiency and chaos reigning in a state-owned company.


      In Russia, private owners, with whom Roscosmos cooperates, are engaged in the creation of the ICA.
  • APASUS 31 May 2020 07: 49 New
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    Rogozin congratulated the United States on the launch of a manned spacecraft to the ISS

    But it should be the other way around, but for now Rogozin is doing well, only tell tales ............
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    Jumped, jumped Musk on the trampoline and jumped to ... That’s what training means .... The USA comes first in the team event in this sport ...
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      Jumped, jumped Musk on the trampoline and jumped to ... That’s what training means .... The USA comes first in the team event in this sport ...

      The American entrepreneur and founder of SpaceX, Ilon Mask, recalled the head of Roskosmos Dmitry Rogozin about the trampoline after launching the manned spacecraft Crew Dragon to the International Space Station (ISS). He stated this during a press conference broadcast on the website of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).

      Responding to a question about the reaction of Russia, head of department James Brydenstein said that he had not talked with Rogozin yet, but saw his statement congratulating NASA and SpaceX. “He spoke out in the sense that this is a joyful day not only for us, but also for them,” he said.

      “The trampoline is working,” Musk added after that and laughed, after which Bridenstein also laughed. The founder of SpaceX explained that this is an internal joke.
      1. Thunderbringer 31 May 2020 10: 06 New
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        6 (six) years jumping on a trampoline. And finally, the "trampoline works."
        There is reason to laugh.
        Laughing so-so, after 6 years of grinding your teeth.
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          Quote: Thunderbringer
          6 (six) years jumping on a trampoline. And finally, the "trampoline works"

          Elon Musk did not cooperate with Rogozin, are you sure about NASA?
          1. Thunderbringer 31 May 2020 10: 56 New
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            This is me about Rogozin's joke six years ago.
            NASA heard this, and it’s clearly sunk into their brains, since after so many years they remember her, and now they are laughing happily.
            Now, years later, the Americans can again (probably) send their astronauts to the ISS.
            Now Rogozin has the same amount of time to answer a joyful laugh.
            1. Klingon 31 May 2020 11: 36 New
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              what answer is going to? stick out your tongue and say "be-be-be-be"? maybe he’d better eat a tie?
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                what answer is going to? stick out your tongue and say "be-be-be-be"? maybe he’d better eat a tie?


                Ties eat only shvili. We have launched two new missiles this year.
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                  hurt yourself! Congratulations)) Say hello to Chef. He made himself a laughing stock. by the way who are you taking this time? Indians? I'm sure no AMS are planned, the bar is not the same, and the rest is generally not interesting to anyone
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                    I’ll tell Lyolik how not to convey. laughing While you have to laugh here you have to: the Indians are flying on their ship, and the landing module "Cossack" is almost ready and waiting for a European parachute.
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                      it’s clear that you have nothing to appeal)) but about Lyolik I would be careful, don’t go over the personality, I personally didn’t offend you by the way
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                        it is clear that you have nothing to appeal))


                        What do I have nothing? You wrote that no AMS is planned, I answered you that the “Cossack” is almost ready. "Cossack" - this is our landing Martian module with a planetary station. We did it, veins tore in order to have time to start this year, but the EKA, which simultaneously made a parachute and rover failed. Of course, we asked them to first give the development of the parachute to our Research Institute of Parachute Engineering, but their ambitions evidently prevailed then ... now we are waiting for a new astronomical window. It will open in the year 2022.

                        Quote: Klingon
                        and as for Lelik, I would be careful, don’t go over the personality, I personally didn’t offend you by the way


                        Is that your name? belay I did not know you will be rich. laughing But seriously, I didn’t want to offend you, but I couldn’t even think that you didn’t watch The Diamond Arm. Not from Russia or what? That’s why you don’t like everything Russian.
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        RUSS I don’t talk about much else ... Yes, but okay ...
  • Sidor Amenpodestovich 31 May 2020 07: 57 New
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    The local contingent has the same attitude towards Rogozin as some Ukrainians have towards European integration. They thought that they would sign an agreement on this very integration, and the next morning they would wake up with European salaries and pensions.
    So with Rogozin. They appointed him the head of Roskosmos, and immediately an incredible breakthrough was to be made beyond the bounds of everything in general. Well, in a maximum of a week. And since there is still no, then you can confuse to the best of your modest powers.
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      Who is this from Rogozin expected? Such expectations were - "everything will complete (optimizes)."
      Again - Kiriyenko was able, after about the same expectations of the industry.
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        Quote: vadimtt
        Such expectations were - "everything will complete (optimizes)."

        If this is exactly what was expected, then what is everyone dissatisfied with?

        How many years did Kiriyenko take to bring Rosatom to its current level? Do you think when he first headed this structure, exactly the same malevolent platitudes did not rush to him?
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          Wait a moment, until the year 20 Americans were happy with everything, but this year they set themselves the goal of ousting the Russian Federation from the nuclear energy market. They sensed that the Soviet backlog had dried up. And rest assured, they will fulfill their plan for our system is not competitive in the realities of the "economy" of shopping centers.
          1. Vadim237 31 May 2020 11: 58 New
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            And what kind of legacy do you have there in Russia’s nuclear energy industry that should dry up?
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            They sensed that the Soviet backlog had dried up.

            Ogap, given that our reactors are being developed new, not Soviet, and very active, which cannot be said about the same amers. Even a reactor has been developed for a very long time, the weight and size characteristics of which allow it to be launched and used in space ... A full-fledged reactor, not a nuclear battery.
            So the atomic sphere is so far little in which we are quite well moving forward ...
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              if we consider that the reactors we are developing are new, not Soviet, and very active

              Since the time of the Soviet BN reactors and reactor installations for Cosmos series satellites, there is nothing fundamentally new.
              Hooray, can we scream or wait?
              1. Albert1988 31 May 2020 13: 47 New
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                Since the time of the Soviet BN reactors and reactor installations for Cosmos series satellites, there is nothing fundamentally new.

                You would first ask what is being done in the atomic sphere, and then you would already express something ...
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                This is nothing new in your knowledge in this direction.
        2. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 10: 19 New
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          If this is exactly what was expected, then what is everyone dissatisfied with?

          And why be satisfied? Even with the death of the shuttles, it was clear that while Russia will work as taxi drivers, the Americans will try to reach a new level. Now, it is likely that Roscosmos will have to lay out the headstock of Mask for training our cosmonauts to fly Masked rockets.
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            You are so pleased to sign the death certificate of the Russian cosmonautics, as if this is your most cherished dream.
            1. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 10: 42 New
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              You are so pleased to sign the death certificate of the Russian cosmonautics, as if this is your most cherished dream.

              I have no pleasure. There is a desire to hang for one place on the nearest aspen all of our defective sawfly managers who only build mock-ups and promise something for a certain year.
              1. Thunderbringer 31 May 2020 10: 57 New
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                Are these the very ones that the Unions are now successfully building and launching?
                Oh well. Then it’s sure that you will have to go to the Mask to bow.
                1. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 11: 08 New
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                  Are these the very ones that the Unions are now successfully building and launching?

                  Alliances have long been built. I’m talking about those who are “building” the Irtysh, Yenisei, Angara, Kolyma, and the devil knows what else, including Luna-Glob, the Federal Eagle, with projections on the Lunar Station and helium mining this year.
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                    You will be surprised, but among those who
                    builds "Irtysh, Yenisei, Angara, Kolyma, and the devil knows what else, including the Moon Globe, the Federal Eagle

                    full of 70-80-year-old “Soviet-hardened specialists,” as well as their sons and other relatives who travel abroad not to speak at seminars and conferences, but to hang out at public expense.
                    And what such "Soviet-hardened specialists" really did succeed in was to write themselves prizes and the like. And everything else is based on the residual principle.
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                    I'm talking about those who "build" the Irtysh, Yenisei, Angara,

                    An interesting fact about how they are built there - one of the leading engineers of the Angara, after its first launch, issued a revelation that for all the previous time the development of financing for the work was hardly allocated 40% of the necessary ...
                    So we have what we have ...
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            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            quite possibly


            Hiley Likely lol

            In the meantime, after repair, we opened a hydrolaboratory and began fitting work with the new Russian module:

            1. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 19: 55 New
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              In the meantime, after repair, we opened a hydrolaboratory and began fitting work with the new Russian module:

              If it’s not a secret, who do you work in Roskosmos? Propagandist?
              1. slipped 31 May 2020 20: 56 New
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                Not a secret, no. You do not like the news of Roskosmos? laughing
                1. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 21: 08 New
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                  You do not like the news of Roskosmos?

                  No, not like, citizen propagandist. Isn't that “Science” in the picture? Pipelines all purged, didn’t forget anything?
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                    Then let the blaze continue lol
                    1. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 21: 13 New
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                      let it burn further

                      Heh, you’re also a psychologist, as I can see ... Isn’t it yourself disgusting?
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                        How is it burning with you? no laughing
                      2. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 21: 27 New
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                        How is it burning with you?

                        Nothing blazes at me. You are tearing it up here. And for what, one wonders?
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: slipped
                        How is it burning with you?

                        Nothing blazes at me.


                        oh li lol
                      4. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 22: 05 New
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                        oh li

                        La-la-fa ... laughing
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        La-la-fa ... laughing


                        Yes, even so, to the music, I’ll even throw firewood for you - MLM-U Nauka is now in a thermal vacuum chamber and is undergoing tests before being sent to Baikonur. Heat? laughing
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                        Heat?

                        Dozhik. I feel good, I don’t work on a dozhik, I drink beer. winked
                        Quote: slipped
                        passes tests before sending to Baikonur.

                        This module has been assembled for twenty years. Hurry up to space pulled until it collapsed. crying
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        This module has been assembled for twenty years. Hurry up to space pulled until it collapsed. crying


                        And who told you. that he "falls apart", he is iron, nothing will happen to him. On the contrary, it will pass the whole complex of tests put to it and fly to the station.
                      8. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 22: 47 New
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                        And who told you. that he "falls apart", he is iron, nothing will happen to him.

                        You never know ... Squeaks, whistles, rivets will sprinkle, the metal will overstrain from the attempts ... I survive, you know ...
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        It will rattle, whistle, the rivets will sprinkle, the metal will overstrain from the attempts ... I survive, you know ...


                        Any spacecraft pass through the pressure chamber before being sent to the spaceport, and Soyuz and Progress do this directly at the spaceport.

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                        Quote: slipped
                        Any spacecraft pass through the pressure chamber before being sent to the spaceport, and Soyuz and Progress do this directly at the spaceport.

                        I have a feeling that I am talking with a bot. Or with the brigade: one was replaced, and the other did not enter. It’s easier to be, fellow (s) propagandist (s). recourse However, I’ll go and I'm paranoid with beer glasses to scare. laughing
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                        I have a feeling that I am talking with a bot.


                        Well, then in vain you are so worried, out there really is better beer. And there’s no need to broaden your horizons, it’s even harmful .... to beer.
                      12. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 23: 19 New
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                        And there’s no need to broaden your horizons,

                        But keep these tips with you.
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                        Well, I’m a “bot”, NPC in your opinion, it’s excusable to me lol
                      14. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 23: 41 New
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                        forgive me

                        Goodbye, bot, eat your pixels. sad
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                        Goodbye, bot, eat your pixels. sad


                        yeah see you soon laughing
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    Wonderful to open (without sarcasm)!
    But who (what) will output this module? (and here is the sea of ​​sarcasm, deserved, by the way).
  • mikhailovich22 31 May 2020 18: 57 New
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    Do you think when he first headed this structure, exactly the same malevolent platitudes did not rush to him?

    About four years, or maybe five years ago, Kirienko was messed up on the site by anyone “kinsurprise”, everyone remembered the default under which Chernomyrdin failed the country, and in order to save the face of his great husband, they set up Kiriyenko.
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      Exactly! But some locals have very selective memory.
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    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
    So with Rogozin. Here they appointed him the head of Roskosmos, immediately it should have turned out

    The new Russian manned spacecraft Orel (formerly called the Federation) is being developed about the same as American projects, but is still far from setting off on its first space flight. It was planned to carry out its first orbital test in 2017, then in 2021, then the deadline moved another year, now the first launch is supposed to be carried out in 2023. “Initially, it was made with the expectation of cladding from special carbon plastics,” says Kotov. “There are no such technologies in Russia, they were supposed to order cladding in Europe. But 2014 came, sanctions came, now there is no possibility to make carbon plating, so the ship began to be converted to metal housing, practically done from scratch. " It is still unknown even from which launch site and with which launch vehicle the Eagle will fly - initially it was about Vostochny cosmodrome and Angara A5P rocket, then about Baikonur and Soyuz-5 rocket, now again about Vostochny and Angara. “Indeed, the news comes either one or the other, then the third. But for a long time there is a single scheme that it will start on the Angara and this will be done from the second stage of the construction of the East, when the launch site for the Angara will be built .
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      Quote: RUSS
      The new Russian manned spacecraft Orel (formerly called the Federation) is being developed about the same as American projects, but is still far from setting off on its first space flight. It was planned to carry out its first orbital test in 2017, then in 2021, then the deadline moved another year, now the first launch is supposed to be carried out in 2023.

      "Eagle" - nobody needs it. There is no need for a crowd of people and nowhere to carry. The moon, Mars, .... are fairy tales (due to radiation) for the distant future. Now the bet is on automatic devices and androids with AI in addition.
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        It is not for you to decide what is on what and where to send what is needed and what is not needed.
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          It is not for you to decide what is on what and where to send what is needed and what is not needed.

          And I just summarize the information. A person is needed only as a “solver” of exceptional situations, such as an android to heal ....
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          It is not for you to decide what is on what and where to send what is needed and what is not needed.

          explain your bet on the Eagle Federation. for what?
  • ALARI 31 May 2020 10: 22 New
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    And that Rogozin came to an empty place? Hangars are empty, there are no workers, there are no developments and developments? Everything was, but instead of moving forward into space, he became a lumberjack. And sawdust flew, and so it’s still not clear how many of these sawdust were pulled into your pockets.
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    The local contingent has the same attitude towards Rogozin as some Ukrainians have towards European integration.

    You just noticed that - they still think that it is Rogozin who determines the development of our manned space program, and not the general level of our economy and the financing of science. Although it is obvious that if Korolev were not allocated such funds from the budget in the space race during the Soviet era, it is still unknown who was the first astronaut. Therefore, you can blame everything on Rogozin, who naturally does not enjoy respect among our science and industry, but blaming him personally for all the failures of our cosmonautics is like blaming the wind when you decided to urinate against him.
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    Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
    The local contingent has the same attitude towards Rogozin as some Ukrainians have towards European integration. They thought that they would sign an agreement on this very integration, and the next morning they would wake up with European salaries and pensions.
    So with Rogozin. They appointed him the head of Roskosmos, and immediately an incredible breakthrough was to be made beyond the bounds of everything in general. Well, in a maximum of a week. And since there is still no, then you can confuse to the best of your modest powers.


    Rogozin has been steering there for a couple and a half years. For so much time, Musk designed, built and launched Dragon Crew. Where is the new ship from Rogozin?
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    Musk certainly well done. But it’s worth noting that Grew Dragon is only a Union of 2 generations, it was created for the ISS and in my opinion it can fly around the moon without landing. And the real new ones will be Orion from Lockheed Martin and of course Starship from Ilona
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      And he still does not fly to Mars and to Titan.

      I wonder what should be the ship that was created under the program - commercial manned flights to the ISS? Musk there at times went into dreams about blooming apples on distant planets, but with NASA he was always pulled, demanding to do what was ordered and not be distracted.

      Here is the availability of Dragon and Starliner for one ISS, this is in question. So much is not needed.

      If we talk about the obvious poles, then Dragon has:
      - key management relief. One person performs all the functions. It is important. The union requires 2 trained astronauts and can carry 1 tourist / scientist / not trained for a deep flight course of a person. A dragon can (and will) fly in a 1 + 3 layout. This is not only tourism, but also the opening of the ISS for scientists. Also cheaper training. The opportunity to let the hours free to study experiments.

      - significantly greater comfort. Both acceleration and brake (so far only on unmanned launch), and habitability. Which again opens the way to space for those who cannot be transported in the Union.

      - carries 1 person more + loads.

      All this will be especially revealed when private traders of Axiom Space - begin to fasten their space hotel to the American segment of the ISS in 22 years. Well, they have plans for stage 2 to make their station for tourists with service and wide capabilities (peak 2).


      The contracts for the first flights at the Mask by the way.
      1. RUSS 31 May 2020 09: 21 New
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        A dragon can (and will) fly in a 1 + 3 layout. This is not only tourism, but also the opening of the ISS for scientists.

        Crew Dragon made the first manned flight with an incomplete crew. At maximum capacity 7 people Only two astronauts took part in the Demo-2 mission.
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          They refused 7, NASA agreed to certify only 4 (and no longer needed - Boeing also intervened, they did 6-7, and NASA said, and you read the requirements? There 4). In general, 6-7 certification at the expense of the manufacturer and there the requirements are very stringent. It is doubtful that the ship will fly in such a load. Even if Axium builds a separate hotel, not a module on the ISS.
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            Someone else is going to create a station from inflatable modules.
      2. Thunderbringer 31 May 2020 10: 13 New
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        The union requires 2 trained astronauts and can carry 1 tourist / scientist / not trained for a deep flight course of a person.

        The union, in principle, does not require astronauts at all. The cargo "Progress" is practically no different from it, however, it is quietly docked with the ISS.
        One can argue about greater comfort. especially if comfort is ensured by reducing all kinds of protective systems. Some "spacesuits" The mask of what are.
        If something happens, they will not save. Or does he, the ship, have 100% reliability?
        This only happens in advertising.
        1. donavi49 31 May 2020 10: 31 New
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          Well, you have mutually exclusive.

          Either the union can in the machine and does not require anyone, the spacesuits will not save if the ship falls apart.

          1) The Union works in the machine, although some procedures often need to be done by hand, but in general, the same Fedor, for example, flies. However, if the machine fails or a minor failure occurs, then 2 pilots are needed. Dragon - for this case, 1 is enough.

          Therefore, the preparation of the mission in the Union - 2 people are seriously working on the flight course and on the simulator. On Dragon - 1.

          2) The suits of the Mask are declared to be saved from capsule depressurization. Just like Roskosmos. I repeat, an astronaut flying on a ship compared the old spacesuit with his father’s winter pants and a jacket in childhood, and this one with flying overalls. Also, the old one required connecting 7 different interfaces, and the new 1 unified prefab. It is faster (in space or on emergency) and easier.
          1. Thunderbringer 31 May 2020 11: 06 New
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            This is an extremely aggressive environment, here we are talking about the maximum possible protection, and the ability to provide a maximum.
            But if, of course, the Mask has 100% reliability (and this basically does not happen, then yes, you can fly in a tracksuit.
            In general, of course you are right, this is undoubtedly a step forward. Not a cardinal step, but a step. But anyway. And there is not the slightest reason for tearing hair on the head (this is not for you, it is for some commentators).
            And of course, the future of cosmonautics in general is a decrease in the level of training of the cosmonauts themselves. I think pretty soon engineers or just military men will be able to go into space, without long years of preparation and special careful selection.
            The ship will do everything for them.
            But if something happened, and hello.
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              Quote: Thunderbringer
              And there is not the slightest reason for tearing hair on the head (this is not for you, it is for some commentators).

              The problem is not that Max launched something to the ISS, the problem is that he launched something new, more economical and with prospects. While we have not developed anything for a very long time and flew on the old Soviet groundwork! And when they realized it, it turned out that the backlog had already accumulated ...
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                Well, accumulated, yes. So the money spent on it at times less, if not tens of times.
                There are no miracles. So far so.
                1. Albert1988 31 May 2020 16: 05 New
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                  Quote: Thunderbringer
                  Well, accumulated, yes.

                  Here's another thing - we have precisely scientific programs in space reduced almost to zero (((, this is an even bigger problem.
                  Quote: Thunderbringer
                  And the money spent on it is many times less, if not tens of times.

                  Yes, with us, too, everything is not ok - according to some sources, less than half of the necessary funds were spent on the Angara, for other projects it is also not clear what. And all for one reason - the meager uncles in high offices do not understand how you can invest huge money in something that does not bring instant profit ...
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          You can argue about greater comfort

          I don’t know how it can be comfortable in space, but if the ship’s “European-quality repair” and stylish design are considered as comfort, then yes. Yes, and about the spacesuits too. Functionality is nothing, style is everything. lol
      3. dima314 31 May 2020 11: 56 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        The union requires 2 trained astronauts and can carry 1 tourist / scientist /
        - where did you read so stupidly? The Union flies on the machine and manual control is used only in an emergency! Progress remember at least that grub and fuel carries! maybe they are training two cosmonauts, but only for the purpose of reinsurance.
        1. donavi49 31 May 2020 12: 26 New
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          Union management requires 2 people. Therefore, the training program for 2 people. This causes some problems for tourism / passengers.
          For example, in order to take Al-Mansouri at the request of the Sheikhs as soon as possible (because the deadlines had passed because of the accident, they strictly demanded to fly 2019) - I had to persuade Chris Cook to stay on the ISS for almost a year, so that there would be a place to return to the Arab.
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          Union and Progress are disposable. and the Dragon will sit down (whether on engines or with a parachute do not care) and after revision and proper maintenance will fly again. This is the whole trick!
      4. slipped 31 May 2020 16: 39 New
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        Quote: donavi49


        If we talk about the obvious poles, then Dragon has:
        - key management relief. One person performs all the functions. It is important. The union requires 2 trained astronauts and can carry 1 tourist / scientist / not trained for a deep flight course of a person.


        Wrong. "Union MS" can be controlled by one astronaut. The commercial Soyuz MS flies with one astronaut and two spaceflight participants.

        Quote: donavi49
        Also cheaper training. The opportunity to let the hours free to study experiments.


        Preparing a spaceflight participant for Soyuz MS can take three months.

        Quote: donavi49

        - significantly greater comfort. Both acceleration and brake (so far only on unmanned launch), and habitability. Which again opens the way to space for those who cannot be transported in the Union.


        Wrong. Three astronauts in the Union are more comfortable than four in the Dragon. The presence of a household compartment (second room) allows you to distribute the astronauts in the ship for various jobs. The toilet in the household compartment is available, unlike. Withdrawal at Soyuz-2 is smooth, with gradually increasing overload. Landing at the Dragon - on the water, which is fraught with unpleasant sensations for passengers.

        Quote: donavi49

        - carries 1 person more + loads.


        It doesn’t matter in essence. The ISS permanent crew - 6 people, the ISS can take another 6 people in short-term flights. Due to the constant rotation of the MS Unions, in addition to the station’s crew, there will always be another cosmonaut delivered by the Union.

        Quote: donavi49

        All this is especially revealed when private owners Axiom Space


        plans, plans ....
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      Musk certainly well done. But it is worth noting that Grew Dragon is only Union 2

      Soyuz-2 is it reusable? And accommodates 7 crew members?
  • GSVG 86-88 31 May 2020 08: 17 New
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    Honestly, I can’t understand where this whole "puppy delight" is from? , The usual launch into space, of which thousands and no one is surprised, you can congratulate the mattresses on the flight of man into space, us in 1961
    congratulations too. In the end, Mars didn’t fly back and forth.
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      Honestly, I can’t understand where this whole "puppy delight" is from? , The usual launch into space, of which thousands and no one is surprised, you can congratulate the mattresses on the flight of man into space, us in 1961
      congratulations too. In the end, Mars didn’t fly back and forth.

      Because - “This is the first step on the path to new space projects. The fact that this is the first spacecraft and launch vehicle created by a private company, whose goal was to reduce the cost of space flights, is of gigantic significance. If these hopes are met, reusable rockets space industry will be shaken up, especially satellite launches.
      Potentially, the company Ilona Mask will be able to send small satellites into space in different orbits at affordable prices. According to some estimates, there is a demand for sending 40 thousand satellites. That is, we can be on the verge of a new space age when the technical capabilities for delivering people and goods to space will increase significantly and their cost will significantly decrease "
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        About the cost of launching the Mask, neither YOU nor I, and no one knows the truth once, well, two or at least 100 manned launches (and I mean about them) Mask will do, then it will be possible to draw some conclusions, but for now it’s PR of pure water, and I’m sure that the astronauts who flew and will fly on it, in their thoughts, who would never say out loud, would prefer to fly in unions, at least for the moment.
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      Honestly, I can’t understand where this whole "puppy delight" is from? , The usual launch into space, of which thousands and no one is surprised, you can congratulate the mattresses on the flight of man into space, us in 1961
      congratulations too. In the end, Mars didn’t fly back and forth.

      I agree, but the pro-American bottlers are already screaming that the Russian space program has died.
  • viktor_ui 31 May 2020 08: 28 New
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    About how many Rogozin minus ministers pulled in ... it’s only when I watched the live broadcast of the DRAGON launch, preparations for the launch with the arrival of the crew in Tesla, the equipment of people (black ninja personnel and a snow-white ship with the crew), touch control displays in front of people, etc. ..I understood that THIS is from the 21st CENTURY and is made for people. Strange you guys ... but we forgive you wassat
    1. dima314 31 May 2020 08: 48 New
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      So you admired the costumes and other props and tesla on which the astronauts arrived?) And what is the most convenient solution for transporting people in equipment?) It's good that the mask does not produce dump trucks)))
      1. viktor_ui 31 May 2020 09: 34 New
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        No dear, I enjoyed the technology seen and embodied in the hardware and am able to appreciate their technical level due to my work and education ... and the success of normal people seems to put pressure on you and the like, it weighs on the chest with the weight of a dump truck. A sham where there is half-heartedness and theft and kumostvo = loss of image. They are clearly more comfortable on TESLA electric vehicles than on buses wassat and I didn’t see a priest with a censer and nobody pissed the wheels before the start. Nekhilo all this props for you sent two normal "boys" into orbit. I do not want to play chess with a pigeon. bully
        1. Thunderbringer 31 May 2020 10: 16 New
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          Well, it always has been. Americans flew to the moon with on-board computers. And in the USSR at that time, the computer occupied one floor and required a separate electrical substation. Because cybernetics is a corrupt girl of imperialism.
          1. orionvitt 31 May 2020 14: 10 New
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            Americans flew to the moon with on-board computers

            Have you seen that computer? Not such a weak box, with an operative of 32 kilobytes. What he expected there is unknown. Now there are almost hundreds of computers, on any spacecraft, which in their characteristics trill trillion times exceed the “Apollo” one, but much progress has been made in manned space exploration. That's the usual flight to orbit, turned into a "victory" of universal scale.
            1. Thunderbringer 31 May 2020 15: 47 New
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              There were already 3 of them there. One in the ship itself, and two in the carrier itself.
              Something was considered, since everything ended in complete success.
              Progress in astronautics in general was mainly determined by the accuracy of calculations and the reliability of the systems. For example, the famous American Pioneers and Voyagers. Calculations and reliability of the highest complexity. Alas, we didn’t succeed
              1. pytar 31 May 2020 17: 23 New
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                Quote: Thunderbringer
                Progress in astronautics in general was mainly determined by the accuracy of calculations and the reliability of the systems. For example, the famous American Pioneers and Voyagers. Calculations and reliability of the highest complexity. Alas, we didn’t succeed

                Dear Andrey hi , personally, besides the undoubted technological innovations realized by SpaceX, the most striking thing is the incredibly high level of control of all processes associated with their reusable missiles!

                This is an extremely difficult task, for its execution we need computers of colossal credibility and reliability! In parallel, they manage a few separate complex ultra-fast processes and they succeed! This is true 21st century! The future has come!
        2. Mordvin 3 31 May 2020 10: 26 New
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          nobody pissed the wheels before the start.

          Maybe they have a tradition in their own pants, as Glenn did?
        3. dima314 31 May 2020 11: 07 New
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          Nekhilo all this props for you sent two normal "boys" into orbit. - And those Americans who were taken to the ISS for 9 consecutive years in the Unions, and often without reporting to the central media, were crazy guys?). And when the "most developed power" swelled the state money into a swindler Mask with all his might trying to restore his lost competence, then this is a great achievement). Did you appreciate the technical level by the size of the displays made on Chinese matrices?))). He also buys Musk’s batteries, and they have bad solar panels, and as the Union still doesn’t hang 210 days in orbit). What about the Great Power and the luminous Mask? When the great power did not find what to send on an interplanetary journey on the most lifting vehicle and a rusty Tesla swindler with a doll behind the wheel flew)))
          1. borberd 31 May 2020 18: 54 New
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            Unions - left over from the USSR. Relatively speaking, my daughter, on my dad’s penny, drove a neighbor for 9 years, for a rather large sum of money -3.9 billion green. And when a neighbor bought a brand new Mercedes, the daughter suddenly got offended and rushed to groan her neighbor’s purchase. For you, the Mask is all bad, because it’s not from Roskosmos or Rogozin. Envy less, and everything will be fine with you. An example of the Chinese is nothing at all, because you don’t have that either. lol
  • rocket757 31 May 2020 08: 36 New
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    Why did this event so excite some?
    The Yankees prepared for a long, long time and flew into a test flight, as was said .... and indeed, the mission still needs to be completed normally! To sign a full contract. Normal practice, as stated by NASA.
    Ours continue to work, implement their programs!
    In general, there is no reason for some sort of confrontation.
    An empty breach back and forth.
    1. cniza 31 May 2020 13: 42 New
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      So I have the same opinion, we need to work harder and bring our programs to implementation, and there are more than them. hi
      1. rocket757 31 May 2020 14: 35 New
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        Hi soldier
        Do what you should and get what you need.
        This is not said today, just follow reasonable advice from ancestors and everything will be a bunch!
        1. cniza 31 May 2020 20: 04 New
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          Sometimes we forget commonplace truths, that is why there are problems ...
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            These are the top ones we have chosen.
            Like illusions, everything should be dispelled, but no. Neither have we learned anything, although life hits us on the head and not with an empty dusty bag.
            And the upper ones have their own dreams of fantasy, they have little connection with our country.
  • demiurg 31 May 2020 08: 36 New
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    Somehow unfair.
    Mask exploded, well, with whom it does not happen, this is normal.
    At Roskosmos what happened, right there as a carbon copy: Jura, we all lost, drank.
    Musk launched astronauts, glee turning into a storm of applause.
    Roscosmos launched the astronauts, this is the legacy of the USSR (although in the new alliances from missiles of the USSR only the name).
    And no one will remember (for obvious reasons) what amounts were spent on space in Russia and what in the USA.
    1. donavi49 31 May 2020 09: 37 New
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      And no one will remember (for obvious reasons) what amounts were spent on space in Russia and what in the USA.


      Any amounts can be lowered if you rush between the expensive PH programs, practically abandoning and minimizing the almost ready new one (Angara), in favor of others from competitors who are not ready yet, but demanding billions, to revive Buran, imitate violent activity in all areas, etc. .

      The Americans also have their own sawmill DeltaHavey (the most expensive launch rocket in the world today) - which the budget buys regularly, there is an even more expensive SLS, which very rigidly exceeded all conceivable and unimaginable volumes of consumed money, and also significantly increased the cost of launch. They spend tens of billions on what the Roscosmos actually do not do at all - scientific AMS. Well, for example, Perseverance and the first Martian UAV Ingenuity helicopter are flying in this window.



      One James Webb telescope gobbled up $ 10 billion.
      1. kjhg 31 May 2020 12: 02 New
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        One James Webb telescope gobbled up $ 10 billion.

        Let me object here. It's worth it. I have been following this program from the very beginning. This telescope is an outstanding achievement of mankind in the study of deep space. Compared with him, the legendary Hubble will look like from the century before last. Thanks to the Webb telescope, many new discoveries await us. The scientific community has invested enormous work in this project. And even Mask's plans against the backdrop of future discoveries of the James Webb telescope look like a trifle.
    2. Klingon 31 May 2020 11: 26 New
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      Roscosmos is like an alien in nanotechnology, Comrade Chubi said: - A dead horse. But nag still something of course can, namely, work as a cabman. But that’s all! we do not (and will not have in the foreseeable future) AMC missions, let alone, Roscosmos has not been engaged in science for a long time. All that remains is the work of the cab driver (which, due to the success of the Mask, will give up positions for 35 million against 90 million for launching an astronaut, this will be a weighty argument for third countries not to fly to the alliance) and the military direction. ((
    3. Vadim237 31 May 2020 12: 25 New
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      Okay, something new would explode at Roskosmos and it would fall where it didn’t go, but when you have a whole series of accidents on carriers that have been flying into space for half a century and the production of which has long been a well-established and frequent marriage in the production of drilled holes in manned spacecraft, hand-clasped workers who manage sensors overturn or damage the booster block when docking the constant theft of materials and solders from precious metals with the justification “They soldered with another solder because the storekeeper Baba Zina was not at the workplace” - the words “Jura we all pissed off” here do not affect tens of billions of rubles reputation losses and even an increase in the cost of insurance, which in turn leads to an increase in the cost of launches.
      1. Interlocutor 31 May 2020 14: 00 New
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        Did something fall in 2019?
      2. Disant 31 May 2020 17: 17 New
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        increased marriage in the production of drilled holes in manned spacecraft, hand-clawed workers who manage to turn over or damage the accelerating unit when docking, constantly stealing materials and solders from precious metals with an excuse

        why do you interfere with the handshake during assembly in one pile with a hole that appeared in space with the participation of man?
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          Yes, because one of these hand-shanks made this hole in the ship on the ground - since it is impossible to make it in orbit - they don’t take absolute sheep into cosmonauts to arrange such a thing. But at our enterprises light.
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            Well, you see - your version is against mine. But there was no hole on Earth. During the flight, it was not, and then it appeared. I'm right. What is your evidence?
    4. rocket757 31 May 2020 14: 36 New
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      Who needs it, everyone understands everything. They just don’t want to scream about and for no reason. This is normal.
    5. Quadro 1 June 2020 06: 18 New
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      Quote: demiurg
      Somehow unfair.
      Mask exploded, well, with whom it does not happen, this is normal.
      At Roskosmos what happened, right there as a carbon copy: Jura, we all lost, drank.
      Musk launched astronauts, glee turning into a storm of applause.
      Roscosmos launched the astronauts, this is the legacy of the USSR (although in the new alliances from missiles of the USSR only the name).
      And no one will remember (for obvious reasons) what amounts were spent on space in Russia and what in the USA.

      And what did you want from hurray amerophiles? They are pathetic hypocrites. And in general it is not clear where they are from. Mankurts without tribe and clan. And the argument about the USSR is ridiculous. The Russian Federation is the successor of the USSR, the RSFSR (Russia) was the "main" in the USSR, most of the personnel were from there. But at the same time, now these amerophiles are in every possible way separating Russia from the USSR, are they foreigners and yearn for a foreign state? Here zhezh what hypocrisy does.
  • Angrybeard 31 May 2020 08: 44 New
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    There was Korolev, and there was a dream, and there was a will, and there was a breakthrough to the stars. Rogozin is not about a breakthrough. But a convenient person, his own, generation Mutko and co. Now there will be 100 meetings on how to catch up with the bygone West. How could you sit still, do nothing, moreover, allow hackwork and theft in Soviet products, which nearly killed the astronauts at the start and destroyed more than one rocket. After 500 years, with pride, repeat the methane engine and after 30 put the first step in the tundra? And it’s good if, after 50 years, Rogozin’s chicks will still fly into space. Though in union.
    Some rubbing from empty to empty and tales of a nuclear tug in space. Which every 5 years is shifted to the right by 10. I need a personality! Inconvenient to the authorities, bureaucrats, and even to the president, but who knows how to break through everything for the sake of goals and live the dream of the stars. Space and the bureaucrat are a killer combination!
    1. Thunderbringer 31 May 2020 10: 26 New
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      Now there will be 100 meetings on how to catch up with the bygone West.

      We beg, we ask in chorus
      Tell us how to be!
      Really to us again
      To grab everything and divide?
      Quote: Angrybeard
      How could one sit still, do nothing, moreover, allow hackwork and theft in Soviet products

      There is no trace of Soviet products for a long time. These are all Russian products, mostly made using Russian technologies.
      Quote: Angrybeard
      And it’s good if, after 50 years, Rogozin’s chicks will still fly into space. Though in union.

      The USSR began flying on the Soyuz in 1967. And then he flew to the collapse. And no one asked the question, why are Americans developing technology, and we are not?
    2. A.TOR 31 May 2020 15: 36 New
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      Need a personality!

      The person will not help you, you need a different device of society, a different country
  • 7,62h54 31 May 2020 08: 54 New
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    Trampoline works
    1. Thunderbringer 31 May 2020 10: 28 New
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      Finally. And then 6 years since this joke Rogozin tried. Money invested as 3 countries such as Russia.
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        The money invested as Russia spent on one Angara - yes, only our rocket flew only two times in 16 years of operation.
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          Yes, perhaps more, and much more.
  • exo
    exo 31 May 2020 08: 58 New
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    What remains to Rogozin? The most developed country in the world. It is unlikely that anyone will be able to compete with it in the near future. And the point here is by no means in the printing press. We also have a Mint.
    1. Roman_vh 31 May 2020 11: 16 New
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      Uncle are you? (WITH)
      Compare Fed presses and anything else.
      The reaction is expected. The sect of Mask witnesses calmed down after the launch was postponed. And now she joyfully rushed.
  • military pensioner 31 May 2020 09: 01 New
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    Forgive us, Sergey Pavlovich Korolev and Yuri Alekseevich Gagarin for not being able to preserve the primacy in space exploration and were at the margins of space exploration, thanks to defective managers, thieves and corrupt officials ...
    Shame on the searchlights of Roscosmos and congratulations to Ilon Mask and NASA on their return to manned space!
    1. ccsr 31 May 2020 14: 03 New
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      Quote: military retiree
      Forgive us, Sergey Pavlovich Korolev and Yuri Alekseevich Gagarin for not being able to preserve the primacy in space exploration and were at the margins of space exploration, thanks to defective managers, thieves and corrupt officials ...

      And for the fact that the USSR was prosrali do not want to apologize to them, a military pensioner?
      Or do you still think that the country is two times smaller than the USSR, should overtake it with the allocated funds for the space program? Do not tell - with a severed head, they do not cry through the hair. So it’s time for you to face the truth, so as not to build illusions about the possibilities of the socialist USSR and capitalist Russia — I tell you this as a military pensioner. So it will be more honest and objective ...
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      Shame on the spotlights of Roscosmos

      Explain which "projects" were invested in?
  • Lontus 31 May 2020 09: 09 New
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    It is not clear - why do some try to make fun of a trampoline?

    Trampoline used from 2011 to 2020,
    And it’ll work - there are contracts.

    At least 9 years of work experience and dozens of flights without casualties - a very deserved and respected product - there were no manned space systems with such achievements outside Russia

    Trampoline monument must be put!
    1. Avior 31 May 2020 09: 19 New
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      It is necessary to set, but not the trampoline, but the Soviet spacecraft Soyuz, which in various modifications has been delivering people into space since the 60s of the last century.
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