Only a few mines will remain in LDNR. The rest will flood


Doors are closing…



In Donetsk, following Lugansk, they announced their intention to engage in an audit of the coal industry, only, unlike the LPR, the message about the intention to close unprofitable mines sounded much more optimistic. DNR Minister of Revenue and Duties Yevgeny Lavrenov said:

“To date, an action plan has been developed and approved to bring enterprises to a cost-effective level. I think the government will soon accept all the necessary regulatory documents. ”

It is clear that reviving an unprofitable mine is a project requiring serious investments, skills, personnel, and sometimes it is completely impossible, therefore, with a 99% guarantee, it can be argued that the “action plan” will be limited to transferring part of the mine departments to drainage.

Close mines - a necessary measure. At the time of Ukraine, they were somehow subsidized by the state. Later, when external administration (beautifully called nationalization) was introduced in LDN, workers paid their salaries and Vneshtorgservice, the government, or private owners paid for some expense items (there are several such mines). As a result, the average indicators were tolerable: due to super-profitable enterprises such as Zasyadko or Sverdlovantratsit, there could even exist a “weak link” like the Nikanor-Novaya mine, on which the miners recently went on strike.

The miners, by the way, safely ascended to the surface, got employed in other places and are waiting for the payment of wage arrears. Nikanor-Novaya itself will have to close. As it turned out, not without reason: from its very foundation in 1998, the mine has not pleased with indicators; it was problematic to mine coal, and the facility is super-hazardous - above-category methane, the development of the formation is dangerous by sudden emissions of coal and gas, as well as explosions of coal dust.

And where is the money?


The piquancy of the situation is added by the fact that Vneshtorgservice, which until recently was the exclusive exporter of coal and metal from LDNR, did not pay either workers or suppliers of various services. As a result, the government of LNR turned out to be to blame, which now has to either pay the workers from its own pocket, or try to somehow recover the debts from Vneshtorgservis, which has nothing of its own except office furniture. Even the leadership does not make sense to shoot - the hero of the occasion, the Ukrainian oligarch Kurchenko, safely lives in Moscow.

To understand: debts for each mine range from 200 million to 2 billion rubles. It is clear that there is nowhere for Lugansk and Donetsk to take such funds - debts are comparable to the annual revenue from the sale of coal. So it is likely that the miners will not be paid. However, they are not used to it - after the collapse of the USSR, such excesses became common practice. Social networks are talking about protests, but in this situation, the government (if VTS does not decide to pay off its debts) simply will have no choice but to disperse these protests so as not to spoil the picture. In general, the picture is sad.

The tops do not want


I would like to believe that the debts will still be returned to the miners, but we will definitely have to say goodbye to unprofitable mines. Yes, everyone who does not retire will be employed. The problem, however, goes far beyond stopping bankrupt enterprises — this is being done all over the world, including in Ukraine, where the industry is on its last legs. The main problem is that with the existing system of operation of the remaining enterprises, when there is practically no investment in the modernization and “rejuvenation” of funds, LDNR risks in the foreseeable future the need to either urgently invest millions in the enterprises afloat, or say goodbye to them . As a result, the Donbass runs the risk of facing a paradoxical situation, when coal is lying underfoot, and is mined only through pirate "digging".

I would like to believe that the leadership of the republics and their superiors will have enough insight to maintain the viability of the industry, since not only budget revenues and incomes of the population depend on this, but also local energy and metallurgy, which will die without coal. So far, unfortunately, one has only heard about any “modernization” in the bravura reports of the local press, which, frankly, has long exhausted its credit of trust.

However, not so much time has passed and can still be improved: the LDNR industry came under external control in the spring of 2017, and it really only becomes the property of the republics today. Let's hope that Lugansk and Donetsk will be able to get out of the peak and restore the former glory to Donbass.
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  1. Mavrikiy 24 May 2020 05: 13 New
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    I want to believe that the debts to the miners will nevertheless be repaid, fool but unprofitable mines definitely have to say goodbye.
    what request Alas, alas. Or does it concern us? I think the problems with the onset of summer will only worsen.
    1. Same lech 24 May 2020 05: 39 New
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      I think the problems with the onset of summer will only worsen.

      LDNR is in limbo and its future is completely foggy what in the light of Kremlin policy.
      Until the clear and clear goal for the leadership of LDNR is seen, talking about anything here is pointless.
      Do they want to join Ukraine with the help of the Minsk Treaty?
      Do they want an independent state?
      Do they want to become part of Russia?
      There is no answer to these questions ... the people of LDNR unfortunately turned out to be a hostage to this uncertainty.
      Oligarchs and crooks of Ukrainian, Russian or local bottling are already particular.
      1. Ross xnumx 24 May 2020 06: 19 New
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        Quote: The same Lech
        LDNR is in limbo and its future is completely foggy in the light of Kremlin policy.

        Oh! How soon did you get the “well-earned minus” from the “anonymous well-wisher”. With a simple keystroke, I eliminate this injustice.
        What the Russian-speaking population wants in a country where nationalism, bordering on fascism, is frantically walking in power structures, is understandable.
        Just do not interfere with the heap of the desire of the population of LDNR and the Kremlin Wishlist. If the self-determination of the peoples of the Crimea was chewing the world (passed through the digestive tract), then the inclusion of other regions of Ukraine into the Russian Federation, despite any rights and laws, our world community would perceive as a catalyst for the Russophobia and hysteria campaign, and this could negatively affect foreign assets of the ruling class of Russia.
        You see very well how much care we have been surrounded by our own chosen authority. As for LDNR ... This is, in fact, another country.
        1. Uncle lee 24 May 2020 06: 25 New
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          to restore Donbass to its former glory.
          And there remains only hope ....
          1. Insurgent 24 May 2020 08: 06 New
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            Only a few mines will remain in LDNR. The rest will flood

            I don’t know how much this information corresponds to reality, because this author has repeatedly raised the “global problems of the DPR-LPR”, which in the end turned out to be an empty zilch ...

            So let's take a look ...

            But I want to write about something else.
            A mine, as a widely ramified network of mine workings, in order to minimize damage to the environment and ground infrastructure, it is categorically impossible to simply take, decommission and flood.

            In pre-war Ukraine, there was even a separate department in Min.coal to close such mines, some funds were allocated for technological measures, a scientific and expert justification was developed.
            Of course, Ukraine would not have been by itself if the funds allocated for this had not been stolen, and illegal coal mining had not been carried out under the cover of the “liquidated mines”.

            Nevertheless, the workings were "paid off" (especially with metal lining wassat), the sumps worked ...

            Therefore - just to take, and administratively-volitional way "close the problem", you can’t no .
            We need thoughtful work in this direction, otherwise our Donbass, and not the most prosperous one in terms of ecology, will be completely ruined ...
            1. The leader of the Redskins 24 May 2020 08: 33 New
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              I remember very well the loud areal cries in 2014, when ordinary people yelled at the camera:
              "... stop feeding us Kiev! .. let them freeze there without our coal! ..."
              And now it is recognized that:
              Close mines - a necessary measure. At the time of Ukraine, they were somehow subsidized by the state.
              I do not say that Kiev was a paradise. I think where do these miners go to work? After all, their work is specific, and the mines are not high-rise porches standing nearby ...
              1. Insurgent 24 May 2020 08: 42 New
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                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                I remember very well the loud areal cries in 2014, when ordinary people yelled at the camera:
                "... stop feeding us Kiev! .. let them freeze there without our coal! ..."

                Tell me, these calls "not to feed Kiev", "memory", were not accidentally caused by the fact that the central "Vlad" who went about the Bandera-pro-American lobby simply "scoring" in the Donbass ignored the pressing problems of the region, treating us purely consumer?

                Donbass - give the products back, and for that you will be a “great shana” ... But what is it, a “great shana”? belay

                Well-uh-uh ... Have you seen our pretender? Well, something like that, just boo-o-o-o-o-o!
          2. Lara Croft 24 May 2020 12: 08 New
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            Quote: Uncle Lee
            to restore Donbass to its former glory.
            And there remains only hope ....

            On the revival of the Donbass (beyond Ukraine) industrial coal region, so in the Rostov region such mines have long been closed ....
            With shouting and hooting, Ukraine has ditched (or is in the process) its metallurgy, to whom LDNR will supply coal ... and for Ukrainian thermal power plants, the supply goes according to gray schemes ...
      2. Mavrikiy 24 May 2020 14: 14 New
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        Quote: The same Lech
        Until the clear and clear goal for the leadership of LDNR is seen, talking about anything here is pointless.

        hiKu-ku, does he need it? The leadership clearly outlined its policy, formulating questions for the people in 2014, in voting ballots. Either Ukraine, or independence. The people probably decided, or maybe they convinced him that this is only the first step, they say how the Russian Federation will include the territory of Ukraine, nizya. repeat And we will be free and independent, so no problem. And now the structure is numb ....
      3. Naughty 24 May 2020 17: 08 New
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        Why Putin in parts? Then Zhytomer Zhmerynka will reach. Then villages will go and Ukrainian villages will self-determine. Ukraine is needed in its entirety But this process will stretch for decades Yes, and as a union state it is not needed either after 100 years or after 200. We need a republic-state completely controlled by Russia It’s a pity for the pain differently But this is a given And there’s nothing from it get away. Russia will not pull now new lands in its composition
        1. Revolver 24 May 2020 23: 19 New
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          Quote: Vzdrincher
          Ukraine is needed in its entirety

          Maybe, in addition to Galicia, high idea even to Austria-Hungary, even to Poland. Bandera defects and their heirs.
          Quote: Vzdrincher
          We need a republic-state completely controlled by Russia

          Republic? Yes, bald horseradish, this is a separatism bomb under the foundation of the country. Provinces, as was the case with the kings, and not otherwise. There are no national-administrative entities, the maximum that is allowed, this is national-cultural autonomy, in the regional Palace of Culture to dance hopak in embroidered shirts. Exactly as Stalin suggested when he was the People's Commissar for Nationalities. And grandfather Lenin then gave Stalin a drag and insisted on the union structure of the country. This bomb in 1991 blew up.
          1. Sergej1972 26 May 2020 19: 12 New
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            Stalin proposed the creation of territorial autonomies, but as part of the RSFSR. Stalin is the father of the autonomous republics and autonomous regions of the RSFSR, and Lenin is the father of the Union republics of the USSR. The difference between the Stalin plan and the Lenin plan was that he proposed "independent" Soviet republics (Ukraine, Belarus, ZSFSR) to be included in the RSFSR on the model of the Tatar and Bashkir ASSR. But there was no question of their elimination. Unfortunately, in the future, as it seems to me, Stalin went the wrong way. On the one hand, de facto since the late 20s. years, and de jure since 1936 strongly centralized the management system. But, on the other hand, with it, the RSFSR greatly decreased, after the creation of the USSR, by and large, by almost 4 million square meters. km ... In the years 1924-1926. enlargement of Belarus at the expense of the RSFSR, at the same time part of the territory went to the Central Asian Union republics. And in 1936 Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan with large massifs of territories with a predominant Russian population, which became union republics, and Karakalpakia, transferred to Uzbekistan, were separated from the RSFSR. And at the end of the Soviet-Finnish war, in 1940, the Karelian ASSR, which became the Karelian-Finnish SSR, was allocated from the RSFSR. Everyone knows about the transfer of Crimea after his death. Thank God that at least some territories returned to the RSFSR: in the mid-20s, Taganrog and Shakhty with the surrounding territories, in 1944 a number of territories of the Karelian-Finnish USSR were transferred to the Leningrad Region, plus several areas were transferred to the RSFSR from Latvia and Estonia, although the Russian-speaking Narva and Daugavpils-Dvinsk have not been transferred. Well, at least Khrushchev, no matter how he treats him, returned Karelia to the RSFSR and abolished the Karelian-Finnish SSR. And now they would have, besides the Kaliningrad, also the Murmansk enclave ...
      4. antivirus 25 May 2020 09: 29 New
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        everything is very specific - the Russian Federation does not need the losses of the outlying oligarchs, the outskirts-the "pro-Russian losses" were never needed.
        The interests of the oligarchs in Moscow and Kiev coincide. how will the entire coal industry be restructured - an example for the western suburbs and for the whole world. LDNR will be blamed for everything and will be taken over by those who pay the most or have the audacity (- second happiness).
        Reunion with Russia.
        We don’t want to subsidize the hostile Outskirts and we’ll drop their hanging in Donbass
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    2. w70
      w70 24 May 2020 12: 41 New
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      And what else did you want from the Russian World?
      1. Vadim237 24 May 2020 14: 47 New
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        No one will solve the LDNR problems now - Russia will most likely approach this issue in bulk when the coronovirus epidemic ends, the whole world economy will grow steadily and all LDNR citizens will be issued with Russian passports.
    3. Civil 24 May 2020 21: 29 New
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      Donbass is not the same
  2. Free wind 24 May 2020 05: 31 New
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    How about us? Or not like theirs.
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  3. Crowe 24 May 2020 05: 34 New
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    the hero of the occasion, the Ukrainian oligarch Kurchenko, safely lives in Moscow.

    Surrealism, some kind of cognitive dissonance .. Horses mixed up in a bunch, people ..
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    for 24 May 2020 05: 42 New
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    And where is the money?

    the hero of the occasion, the Ukrainian oligarch Kurchenko, safely lives in Moscow.

    And he is not alone.
    1. Same lech 24 May 2020 05: 55 New
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      Ukrainian oligarch Kurchenko



      What a spiritual face of this accomplice Yanukovych ... you can see immediately an effective manager. what
      1. Kronos 24 May 2020 10: 28 New
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        Yes, and here many would like to see Jankovic come back
      2. Mamuka Petrovich 26 May 2020 15: 49 New
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        There isn’t enough nimbus, and right away at least an icon
  5. Eug
    Eug 24 May 2020 06: 56 New
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    The state subsidized - with the rarest exception - not the mines, but their owners, who usually work through offshore companies, or godlessly stealing management.
  6. acetophenon 24 May 2020 07: 07 New
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    Quote: The same Lech
    Ukrainian oligarch Kurchenko



    What a spiritual face of this accomplice Yanukovych ... you can see immediately an effective manager. what

    Like Bandera.
    1. Normal ok 24 May 2020 19: 45 New
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      Quote: acetophenon
      Quote: The same Lech
      Ukrainian oligarch Kurchenko



      What a spiritual face of this accomplice Yanukovych ... you can see immediately an effective manager. what

      Like Bandera.

      How can you say that? He hates Bandera, he is 100% pro-Kremlin. This is a very effective manager.
  7. Vladimir61 24 May 2020 07: 08 New
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    The mines? Yes, many of them can already be called in the old fashion, - mines. Large coal associations in the early 90s were “skillfully” privatized. Then, the new owners, these associations razderbanili again, depending on the rank in power. Whoever is higher in rank grabbed a tidbit (for example, the best mine Zasyadko (Donetsk), fell into the hands of the former acting Prime Minister of Ukraine, People’s Deputy of Ukraine from the Party of Regions, Fima Zvyagilsky. Who he grabbed a little less, the rest went to the mines, which were then unprofitable, but survived due to "black" or minimal payment. In 2014, the owners of these mines ran away without paying. DLNR simply does not have enough money to support unprofitable mines. On some staff there are 100-300 people, and this despite the fact that, in fact, there are enterprises that previously worked, tens of thousands!?.
    But there is no particular tragedy, as it is spread in the media, saying that the end of the coal industry. For example, in the LPR, 5 mines will be closed ("Nikanor-Novaya", Zorinsk; "19 party congresses", - the village of Yuryevka; "Lugansk", - the village of Yubileiny; "Partizanskaya", - the city of Anthracite; "Dzerzhinsky" , - the city of Rovenky). Most of them, or so, either "breathed in the air", or just mined, for local consumption, in the form of fuel. It will remain with a dozen, the largest, and, this is not quite consistent with the title of the article
    Only a few mines will remain in LDNR. The rest will flood
    .
    The longer you drag, the worse. And Kurochkin, and other “Moscow”, “Rostov” and others who robbed the Donbass, need to be taken for the gills - they have nowhere else to run.
    1. forest1 24 May 2020 08: 27 New
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      Coal ore mines there now
      1. Vladimir61 24 May 2020 09: 22 New
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        Quote: forest1
        Coal Mines coal ore there now

        Well yes! Which ukropatriotichesky power, in spite of everything, buys with "hands." Because in LDNR, anthracite and coking coals, and on the western outskirts, brown, which does not even burn in the stove.
        Why don’t you buy in South Africa, the USA, Poland, and since 2014, by hook or by crook have been buying in the DLNR, and in the Rostov region.
      2. Insurgent 24 May 2020 09: 37 New
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        Quote: forest1
        Coal ore mines there now

        Well, why, once again stick out your limitations on display?

        Apparently you need to enlighten, in the sense that in Donetsk there is still no Oktyabrsky mine department operating because of being in the database strip, and the Artyomsoli enterprise that developed rock salt deposits was called the Volodarsky Mine ...
        1. German Titov 24 May 2020 22: 03 New
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          Of the "coal mines," I know only one. We call mines. Order of Lenin "October Mine", the trunk - (995 meters). Driving and mining escho deeper. It is unlikely that they will restore it. I was there in the tunnel ...
          1. Insurgent 25 May 2020 07: 47 New
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            Quote: German Titov
            Of the "coal mines," I know only one. We call mines. Order of Lenin "October Mine", the trunk - (995 meters).

            Land, I wrote about it ...
  8. nikvic46 24 May 2020 07: 19 New
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    LDNR found. But I didn’t find the economy. I’m not interested in the fact that mines are closed all over the world. Any mine can be used for domestic consumption. Of course, the incomes will be different. But the main thing is people. They are buried in paper. And we do not want to move our brains.
  9. siberalt 24 May 2020 08: 36 New
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    Siberia supplies half of Europe, Central Asia and China with gas. But in order to pay the Kuzbass miners, the overwhelming majority of Siberians only dream of gas. But only now, how to ensure that one does not interfere with the other, for half a century our government could not have come up with anything worthwhile, and now it doesn’t need it anymore.
  10. Narak-zempo 24 May 2020 08: 41 New
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    hero of the occasion, Ukrainian oligarch Kurchenko, safely lives in Moscow

    Slip of the pen?
    1. Vladimir61 24 May 2020 09: 30 New
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      Quote: Narak-zempo
      Slip of the pen?

      Well no! He escaped from the outskirts after the 2014 coup. In the outskirts, experts believe that he, as before, is working with Parashenko (in the media market, through the UMH Group). In general, with whom he just did not cooperate, from Kolomoisky, Akhmetov and Boyko, to Kernes and the sons of Yanukovych.
    2. Mamuka Petrovich 26 May 2020 15: 54 New
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      They wrote that he lives on Rublevka.
  11. CommanderDIVA 24 May 2020 09: 31 New
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    In the Rostov region, almost all mines have been closed since the beginning of 2000, I think one Obukhovskaya is working near Zverevo, they were not profitable even then, compared to the Kuzbass coal mined by open pit mining, all the salt in the monotowns and their inhabitants: Gukovo, Novoshakhtinsk , Krasny Sulin, Russian Donetsk, etc., cities are slowly subsidizing until the population disperses or decreases naturally, then there will be a decrease to the level of urban and regional settlements, similar cities of Donbass will also face the same future, the future will be with gas, not coal
    1. Vladimir61 24 May 2020 09: 45 New
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      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      In my opinion, one is Obukhovskaya, she works near Zverevo

      How long have you been in the Rostov region, dear! Or not at all.
      There are 8 mines, 2 are under construction. Yes, not the USSR, when there were 64 mines, since they were still closed in the 90s and there was nothing there.
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      subsidize slowly until the population corrodes or decreases naturally
      Do not drive empty!
      1. CommanderDIVA 24 May 2020 13: 35 New
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        Write in more detail which mines are being built in the Rostov Region, then I will apologize for my empty person that misled the public
      2. CommanderDIVA 24 May 2020 13: 37 New
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        He lived in the Rostov region for more than 10 years, miners acquaintances remained first-hand info
  12. Pvi1206 24 May 2020 10: 29 New
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    when we walked - we had fun, counted - wept ...
  13. fa2998 24 May 2020 10: 51 New
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    Quote: Insurgent
    So let's take a look ...

    But I want to write about something else.
    A mine, as a widely ramified network of mine workings, in order to minimize damage to the environment and ground infrastructure, it is categorically impossible to simply take, decommission and flood.

    It’s how! How do the mines of the Ukrainian Donbass differ from the Russian Donbass? At least we have mines that are safe in gas and dust, but they abandoned everything, flooded it and blew up ground facilities. Address-g. Novoshakhtinsk, Shakhty, Gukovo, Kr. Sulin, Zverevo .etc. hi
    1. Insurgent 25 May 2020 07: 54 New
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      Quote: fa2998
      It’s how! How do the mines of the Ukrainian Donbass differ from the Russian Donbass? At least we have mines that are safe in gas and dust, but they abandoned everything, flooded it and blew up ground facilities. Address-g. Novoshakhtinsk, Shakhty, Gukovo, Kr. Sulin, Zverevo .etc.


      So the bastards were engaged in the liquidation of mines, once they "solved the problem" in this way, without ensuring the pumping of water from the workings with the inevitable rise in the level of groundwater with all the ensuing.

      Although, it’s possible that you don’t have a thorough knowledge of the issue, in terms of the fact that perhaps (I can’t pretend to say), water is being pumped out.
  14. Maks1995 24 May 2020 12: 09 New
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    “However, not much time has passed and it can still be improved: the LDNR industry came under external control in the spring of 2017, and really only becomes the property of the republics today. Let's hope that Lugansk and Donetsk will be able to get out of the peak and restore the glory of Donbass . "

    Does someone still believe in fairy tales about Leadership 2020, Pension, Nanotech and the development of Space Navigation?

    6 years - "not so much time" - scandals took place with grudges, deception, treason, theft of money and a humanitarian, kidnapping - and now "Let's hope ....."
  15. Karaul73 24 May 2020 12: 19 New
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    "The leadership of the republics and their superiors"

    I would like to ask the author of the article about who is the bosses of the leadership of the republics? Maybe it’s time for this boss to leave the shadow and take care of the state of affairs in the Donbass? And not only will be reset to zero. People are not only ratings and pictures on TV. This is the future world for millions of people in the long-suffering region.
  16. w70
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    So it was planned to get rid of competitors
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    1. And what about Bandera right away? In my opinion, he is more offended by the site management!
  18. Felix Chuykov 24 May 2020 18: 47 New
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    Sovereigns

    Finish off the Soviet Union
    Old-fashioned New Russia,
    Mining for minus plus
    Turning miners into garbage,
    Not daring Soviet power
    Make the chosen will of the people
    So as not to ruin the black suit
    A brighter life is victorious.
    Soviet Ukraine become
    I fell to idiocy:
    Ruined Motherland
    The approximate path of amputism.
    Kievites stigmatize Muscovites,
    Muscovites renegade into caves,
    On wheat field needles
    The battle came out for a military career,
    In order to appropriate profit
    Capital scrape on the gimbal ...
    Person! How much do you need
    To become human again?

    Felix Chuykov

    January 19 2015 years
  19. Emphasis 24 May 2020 18: 49 New
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    The phrase that Ukraine is poorly poorly subsidized in the Donbas mine sounds interesting. Then immediately recall the slogans that Donbas feeds the whole of Ukraine? How is that?
    It appears from the text that Donbas himself fed from other areas, did I understand correctly?
    And they said that Donbas feeds western Ukraine. So who then feeds everyone then?
  20. Normal ok 24 May 2020 19: 38 New
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    the hero of the occasion, the Ukrainian oligarch Kurchenko, safely lives in Moscow.

    So this is a long time ago the Russian oligarch, or rather the laying between the Donbass and the Russian oligarchs.
  21. German Titov 24 May 2020 21: 57 New
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    For some reason, I am "FOR" the establishment of a monument to I.V. Stalin. "For" stickers "When I have such a" .... neither "was". In the Donbass unique coals (not in the furnace). As there Kosh said, "There is money, there is not enough mind."
  22. Alex Nevs 24 May 2020 22: 08 New
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    The article should be entitled "From empty to empty and vice versa." It’s the same thing already. And go to LDNR, talk, interview ... well, in real life. Not? Drawn from the lantern, or rather from the barn read and posted here type for review. The author is a big minus for this "colander". Everything is much sadder. and already longooooo !. And the "we" you see tutachki just woke up.
  23. skobars 24 May 2020 22: 55 New
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    Well, how is it that they worked for some kind of uncle for so long and at least without a partial prepayment?
  24. EvilLion 25 May 2020 08: 34 New
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    And where does this coal go? If there is no demand, there is no point in digging, but making coke for the steel industry, and EMNIP is exactly the point of the Donbass mines, since it remained on the remnants of the Ukrainian SSR, and in 2014 they wrote that Novorossia is viable only as a whole, individual pieces are simply torn out of the economic structure created back in the USSR.
    1. CommanderDIVA 29 May 2020 08: 38 New
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      Coal from LDNR I don’t know where it was going, but from the Rostov region, before the closure of the main mines in the zero years, the local ember went to Turkey, England and the Czech Republic in small batches, stove heating in cities was common in these countries, Kuzbass coal was also exported, but for the steel industry abroad, its quality was previously increased at the enrichment plants of the Rostov region
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    and the company in Artyomsoli, which developed rock salt deposits, was called the Volodarsky Mine ...

    Not really, comrade. The software "Artyomsol" included in addition to the mine to them. Volodarsky another 3 or 4, which were in the city of Karlolibnehtovsk (now Solidar). Although the Volodarsky mine was the deepest and most powerful than those that were in Karololibknekhtovsk.

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    At least we have safe mines for gas and dust, but they left everything

    Not all. In the mid-70s, he was on a business trip to the mine, on trials. I had to speak with the local authorities, who claimed that many had a danger of dust and gas. And even then they said that the profitability of many mines of the Rostov segment of Donbass is falling. The strata are thin, deep, with a large inclination of the workings. As of now, I don’t know.
    Novocherkasskaya GRES previously worked on coal of Donbass. But quite a long time ago it was converted to gas so as not to depend on coal supplies from Ukraine
  26. Argon prime 26 May 2020 10: 17 New
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    "as well as explosions of coal dust" - nonsense. The author of google "explosion-proof equipment" and do not write nonsense.
  27. Argon prime 26 May 2020 10: 21 New
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    ... which claimed that many have a danger of dust and gas.
    There is a danger of dust and gas in all absolutely mines, just somewhere more, somewhere less. ALL mine equipment is designed specifically for use in explosive dust and gas environments
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    The closure of coal mining in the Donbass is the main task, the freed miners are needed to participate in the denazification process of the Outskirts.
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    The closure of coal mining in the Donbass is the main task, the freed miners are needed to participate in the denazification process of the Outskirts.

    The order of numbers there and there does not bother you?
  30. Old26 26 May 2020 13: 04 New
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    There is a danger of dust and gas in all absolutely mines, just somewhere more, somewhere less. ALL mine equipment is designed specifically for use in explosive dust and gas environments

    A post a little higher, I recalled one of the missions to the mine in the Rostov region. You are absolutely right in speaking of explosion-proof equipment design. That's just while the authorities were waiting for my attention attracted the so-called. "Wall of shame." On the roll of graph paper, a wall newspaper was issued indicating the name and surname. workers of this mine. And what measures were taken in relation to them (vacation in winter, deprivation of bonuses, transfer of the queue for an apartment to a number of rooms back). And all their fault is that they were caught when they tried to smuggle cigarettes and matches into the mine. And there, after all, in this "Wall of Shame" were not present at all boys.
    You can make any equipment explosion proof. But matches or a lighter carried into the face multiply all the efforts of the designers by zero
    1. Argon prime 11 June 2020 10: 24 New
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      Well, yes ... Although I do not know what it takes to be a moron to smoke in the face. There, comrades, for this they should have beaten off their heads right away .. Well, or later
  31. Awaz 27 May 2020 19: 07 New
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    Guys, well, earlier in the Rostov region they also dug the same coal. Now they have stopped, but the region seems to be holding well without coal.
    Another problem is at whose expense to redo all this? Well, you need to understand whether this is worth doing and what prospects the region has. But the real situation, when neither will it positively affect the processes.
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    Coal from LDNR I don’t know where it was going, but from the Rostov region, before the closure of the main mines in the zero years, the local ember went to Turkey, England and the Czech Republic in small batches, stove heating in cities was common in these countries, Kuzbass coal was also exported, but for the steel industry abroad, its quality was previously increased at the enrichment plants of the Rostov region

    Seriously? Can you imagine the price of your coal in England including logistics? For private traders, I mean.