Pandemic: don't look for a black cat in a dark room

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The danger is not there ...


Many of these lines already go on social networks. But the author did not begin to ask questions at once, but towards the end of quarantine, when he wants to run away especially strongly.

The way out of the coveted press was even closer, but there were only more questions, as there were much more of those who asked such questions almost daily and even hourly.



However, today he not only asks questions, but also tries to give answers to them, not from the point of view of a specialist epidemiologist, but from the standpoint of common sense, which many more have managed to not completely lose. The thing is that today, fortunately, there is enough information not only to intimidate the population and justify punitive measures, but also to preserve this common sense.

Firstly, there is no doubt that COVID-19 is not a particularly dangerous disease. But simply dangerous. The same as influenza, viral pneumonia or SARS / ARI.

COVID-19 is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus.

SARS-CoV-2 is a new and poorly understood virus. But his family, his viral nature do not allow us to talk about his particular danger and terrible mortality.

SARS-CoV-2 is transmitted from person to person, like other respiratory diseases, for example, as a common SARS. The probability of catching it through the surfaces is negligible and unrealistic, and in the open air it is minimal - unless, for example, when, for example, you chat with an infected interlocutor for half an hour, spraying each other with saliva or sing songs with him, hugging and laughing.

Gloves, antiseptics, disinfection are not needed. Even the WHO did not deny it, and once they agreed in the Russian Ministry of Emergencies, but then they shut up, because the launched capacities, especially in Moscow, must now be paid back. However, scented soaps and fluffy towels are enough. And quite.

Masks, of course, are needed by patients, doctors who are in contact with patients, as well as those who really want to wear them for their own peace of mind during an epidemic or outbreak.

80-85%, that is, the almost absolute majority of SARS-CoV-2 infected, will tolerate it either asymptomatically or as a normal SARS. For children under 15 years of age, who in 90% of cases do not even know anything, as well as for young people under the age of forty, the virus will go almost unnoticed.

Percentages of 15–20% of adults from forty years of age and older SARS-CoV-2 can catch strongly. In 90-93%, pneumonia of varying severity will become complications; in other cases, it will strike in weak places: in the heart, kidneys, and vessels. The main danger remains people over 70, especially chronically ill patients - hypertensive patients, diabetics.

... But there is no cure


There is no SARS-CoV-2 treatment, as is the case with ARVI and influenza. Only symptomatic. I would like to hope that it will, but so far all reports on the successes of scientists are nothing more than a fake.

Primary control agents are the most common: paracetamol, heavy drinking, airing, walking in the fresh air. And immunity, as it seems to me, will be conditional, as well as to other flu and ARVI.

The appearance of a vaccine is also unlikely. If she appears quickly, it will almost certainly be a useless placebo and it would be nice to be safe.

SARS-CoV-2 itself, most likely, will disappear as it appeared. His second wave will be invisible, I do not believe in it at all. How inconspicuous would be the outbreak in Wuhan, if it had not been driven further ...

Testing for SARS-CoV-2 is carried out with gross violations of all principles and postulates of determining viral diseases. Antibody testing is also pointless.

For example, now no country, no institute can provide statistics, for example, for viral pneumonia or complex flu, not related to SARS-CoV-2. However, outbreaks of these diseases have always claimed thousands of lives. What is their weight among sick people and deaths in the general statistics of KOVID-19, which were recorded in most countries in a row?

Tests for SARS-CoV-2 not only gave false positive or false negative results, but they could also respond to other coronaviruses, to any SARS.

The global pandemic announced after the outbreak in China is not.

So isn’t it enough to lie?


The statistics that we are treated to every day are manipulative and unscientific. Both the statistics of infected people and the statistics of sick and dead are based on false and erroneous data.

In the foci of the SARS-CoV-2 epidemic in Italy, the USA, any other countries and places, a crazy infectious mix was created in hospitals, polyclinics, and nursing homes. Getting there was akin to playing Russian roulette.

The wave of panic and lack of professionalism (from politicians and journalists to scientists and doctors) led to terrible consequences.

Pandemic: don't look for a black cat in a dark room
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Government systems and society were absolutely unprepared for a pandemic or quarantine, which, in its essence, was false. It is necessary to send patients to quarantine, and not all in a row, is it really all that was forgotten right away?

The measures taken, ranging from quarantine to the reaction of social networks, which were filled with panic and false, as it turns out now, facts. These facts came from anyone, including doctors - they were redundant, and often did not solve problems, but only exacerbated them.

Key decisions to combat the epidemic were not made on the basis of existing norms and rules of epidemiology, but from scratch by ignoramuses and professionally unsuitable officials.

The medical-bureaucratic community, having forgotten about the main medical principle “do no harm”, began to be guided by the principle of “help” or “and if so?”

In particular, the protocols for treating viral pneumonia were forgotten, instead of all they were stuffed with antibiotics and drugs with side effects according to schemes invented on the go, put on mechanical ventilation ...

How many people with common SARS, influenza according to false tests for KOVID-19, how many panics, how many other diagnoses ended up in hospitals, clinics and were infected with viral pneumonia and other infections, and at the same time with other viruses, including the same SARS-CoV -2?

How many people self-medicated, drank antibiotics, drugs against malaria, aspirins, zinc, having read the blogs of doctors. It’s now that some of the doctors, recollecting themselves, began to write that all drugs, all the horrors and complications they write about, occur in 7-8% of severe cases, they do not threaten the absolute majority, and drugs can do even fatal harm.

And if you are sick with something similar to KOVID-19, take paracetamol and a warm drink. And step march - under observation. All of us with the flu have always been told that if the temperature lasts for a conditionally week, then you just need to start to worry and then the doctor will prescribe antibiotics and so on, on the basis of the general picture, and not just tests and tests.

Many high-profile cases are replicated in social networks, but they can’t be taken for granted and thought that they are so scary or will affect you personally, or we’ll necessarily immediately swallow tablets and run on CT.

The treatment of viral diseases, I repeat, is difficult, long and expensive in every sense. And everything is sometimes decided by details that are not described by bloggers or not understood, and not explained by doctors.

Do no harm


Our government also does not particularly like the principle of “do no harm”. And in this case, having received full moral right not to allow a single tear, launched a full carte blanche.

There is an opinion that we here in Russia lately especially remind those very natives who profess cargo cult. Copying foreign practices, we create here something special from improvised materials, and then we wonder why everything falls apart, and even smells bad.

In the case of this coronavirus struggle, this point of view was largely confirmed.

The start of mass hysteria was given from here: no, they say, we have no hospitals, no tests of our own, no drugs, no masks, no mechanical ventilation, no managers. Only billionaires-officials and billionaires-chief physicians.

Mindless copying of Western and Chinese treatment protocols, quarantine measures plus their own initiative, which in Russia is called “make a fool to pray to God ...” And all this was aimed not at work, but at controlling cash flows and citizens - a source of fines.

It was fortunate that there were no nursing homes, as were the elderly themselves. Our country is young, most managed to die out before the pension reform, and now it is so resistant to this coronavirus.

Fearing, we have already given too much to the authorities. We believed the authorities, for once again. And once again deceived. And with us it was not so much with freedom, but now it is completely ... Where is it?

We abandoned Easter, Victory Day and the parade, receiving in return codes, “Social Monitoring”, voluntary quarantine without compensation and explanation, masks and gloves.

What's next? They promise a lot, a lot. But for now we have this: a collapsed economy, millions of unemployed, poverty and the collapsed health of the whole people. For what?

Let's try to weigh it on our scales. It was worth it? Coronavirus is a catalyst, an accelerator of all processes, it is a test. And I did not like this test.

Fear will go away. Anxiety will remain. Anxiety from uncertainty. But everything has been done “for us,” for our own good, so that we worry less.
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  1. +19
    23 May 2020 04: 53
    Coronavirus is a catalyst, an accelerator of all processes, it is a test.

    It is a projectmedia showthat someone launched for certain purposes on a global scale.
    1. +9
      23 May 2020 05: 12
      It’s quite logical ...
      1. +36
        23 May 2020 06: 21
        Special project, I agree. But we, the people, have little information to try to somehow analyze the situation, and then draw some conclusions based on this analysis. And it infuriates, frankly.
        As for this self-isolation, then, in theory, if it was beneficial, then the number of cases of tuberculosis and other diseases transmitted by airborne droplets should also decrease, if we take over the period year to year. But such statistics are not published now, and I doubt that they will be published later. After all, it turns out that the authorities with this self-isolation are very fluid about .. that it, self-isolation, only brought harm. And our celestials, led by zeroed ones, will never agree to such a recognition.
      2. +54
        23 May 2020 07: 14
        As a microbiologist (albeit a veterinarian), I have more and more questions about this "epidemic":

        1. Where, in such a short time, can a vaccine that has been tested in humans come from? - this is from official posts

        2. Protection measures are exaggerated. Mask (normal) - works only 20 minutes. Demand to wear constantly.
        + cut money on masks. In pharmacies - 40-50 rubles per unit at a cost of 2 rubles.

        3. If Kovid-19 is so dangerous, then why in the suburbs, where 800-900 people a day are now infected, do they cancel the access regime and allow them to walk?

        And there will be many questions ... A new vaccine, as if it were not more dangerous than Covid himself.

        In order to test the vaccine, it takes a lot of time.
        1. +34
          23 May 2020 08: 55
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          Protective measures are exaggerated. Mask (normal) - works only 20 minutes. Demand to wear constantly.
          + cut money on masks. In pharmacies - 40-50 rubles per unit at a cost of 2 rubles.

          There are many questions, but I feel the answer lies in this ..!
          - Rabinovich, what do you think, when the mandatory wearing of masks is canceled?
          - Monya, I beg you ... Serious people have invested money. How to beat off and weld - then they will cancel it ...

          laughing
        2. +34
          23 May 2020 10: 47
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          As a microbiologist (albeit a veterinarian), I have more and more questions about this "epidemic"

          As a physician, I have several answers to your questions:
          1 options: 2. nonsense, 1. the vaccine was obtained from the Chinese, since it is no secret to anyone that the "parents" of the virus are microbiologists of the center of Wuhan
          2. Measures are not exaggerated, a mask is necessary as with any airborne infection. But optimizers joined the solution to the mask problem and sawed the loot and earn it. Why not extend the mask regimen until the New Year?
          3. Covid-19 is dangerous, in our hospital an anesthetist died from it, 2 surgeons and 1 anesthetist were literally dragged from the other world. In total, 255 physicians died in the country, the mortality rate of doctors is 16 times higher than in rotting Europe.
          Why canceled in the suburbs? There are several answers:
          1. masks are expensive for the public
          2. people just "beat" the mask mode
          3. production in the region has collapsed and it needs to be raised
          4. The situation for the forthcoming vote is gradually "softening". For the authorities, this is more important than the epidemiological situation.
          Why is it different in Moscow? - Because, if Moscow breaks out in June, some will lose their seat
          1. +24
            23 May 2020 14: 59
            Quote: Silvestr
            Covid-19 is dangerous, in our hospital an anesthetist died from it, 2 surgeons and 1 anesthetist were literally dragged from the other world. In total, 255 physicians died in the country, the mortality rate of doctors is 16 times higher than in rotting Europe.

            In Ryazan, officially all the dead-7. Already the second week.
            But,
            "Ministry of Health of the Ryazan Region refused provide statistics on the incidence of coronavirus in medical personnel in the region ....
            ... the editorial office requested statistics from the Ministry of Health about how many employees of medical institutions in the Ryazan Region passed a positive test for COVID-19, how many were in quarantine and how many doctors with a positive diagnosis died during the pandemic.
            In response, the regional Ministry of Health refused to provide data, citing the federal law "On the Basics of Protecting Citizens' Health in the Russian Federation."

            More on Ya62.ru:
            https://ya62.ru/news/health/ryazanskiy_minzdrav_otkazalsya_nazvat_chislo_medikov_s_diagnozom_covid_19/
            So try to believe the official statistics. The disease is serious, it can be judged indirectly even by those who fell ill at the pinnacle of power. Doctors should "steer", but even you do not have a common opinion about the ignorance of the author of the article. So, politicians "rule". In the Krasnodar Territory, physicians demanding additional payments were declared extremists. Threatened for 12 years. Conscience and honor of "law enforcement officers"! Kindly drive out in disgrace. And their commanders. Someone gave the command.
            The fact that the global crisis is spreading has been written for the second year. Coronovirus turned up in time. On unbelief in power, the article in principle. Not about coronovirus.
            I see the situation with coronavirus on the part of medicine in the "optimization" of healthcare.
            Cowid 19 will end. Monument to the dead doctors with a list of the dead. The list, however, will not be final. Many, I think, will make their contribution.
            PS Respect for the Tula nurse working in the "red zone". I hope that everything will be fine with her and she will become a real doctor.
            1. +10
              23 May 2020 15: 58
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Tula nurse working in the "red zone" respect.

              Well done, Girl!
            2. +10
              23 May 2020 20: 02
              "The disease is serious, it can be judged indirectly even by those who fell ill at the pinnacle of power." Since statistics show that the number of deaths does not go beyond the annual deaths from influenza and pneumonia, one can agree with the author. And what about the pinnacle of power, but it never occurred to you that this very power needs justification for its insane policy towards covid. So they are diagnosed with coronavirus appointed by the extreme. Why not treat Mishustin, anyway during this period practically nothing depends on him. And the main chatterbox of the Kremlin in general, if he is constantly ill or running around the Courchevels, nothing in the country will change.
            3. +9
              24 May 2020 10: 27
              In the Krasnodar Territory, doctors requiring surcharges were declared extremists. They threatened 12 years.

              The Krasnodar Territory over the past 15 years has been famous as a region in which the level of corruption, arbitrariness, nepotism, etc. is unusually high. abominations. That's just supreme it seems quite satisfied.
          2. -4
            23 May 2020 19: 49
            As far as I understand you, the doctors did not die before? For the most part, the cause of complications is an unhealthy lifestyle, seasoned with excess weight.
            1. +10
              24 May 2020 01: 28
              As far as I understand you, the doctors did not die before?

              Hundreds of flu for a couple of months.
              Over the past 100 years no have not died.
          3. +4
            24 May 2020 01: 27
            As a physician, I have several answers to your questions:

            Greetings. Did not read your answer and also answered laughing
            Only about the vaccine. I know first-hand (although maybe they also got it from the Chinese) ours do too. But the tests are carried out according to a special algorithm. According to the instructions in some cases allowed.
          4. +2
            24 May 2020 04: 19
            Covid-19 is dangerous, in our hospital an anesthetist died from it, 2 surgeons and 1 anesthetist were literally dragged from the other world.

            But there is no cure

            The anti-coronavirus drug Favipiravir (in the Russian Federation will be called Avifavir) will be launched in June. Allows to reduce the treatment time in half.
            It is noted that according to the results of the first stage of clinical trials (10 days), Avifavir demonstrated safety

            https://iz.ru/1014318/2020-05-22/pervyi-effektivnyi-rossiiskii-preparat-ot-covid-19-nazvali-avifavir
            But the Japanese claim that it negatively affects the fetus of pregnant women and the reproductive organs of men and women. If the last complication remains, the Russian population will decline.
            The Japanese also claim that it is ineffective in severe coronavirus and Favipiravir should be used as early as possible. And we are going to use it only in hospitals when the disease is running (at an early stage, we treat at home).
            1. +3
              24 May 2020 22: 16
              Favipiravir ??? - Which is causing infertility?
          5. +1
            24 May 2020 10: 28
            15% of the total number of deaths are medical workers, mainly nurses. What is this, is it a non-dangerous disease ??? Why is it generally impossible to complain about the author of this article, so that he would be banned altogether and not write here? !!!
            1. -1
              24 May 2020 11: 29
              It’s not at all clear how this garbage ended up in VO? Viewed by moderators?
              The author is a complete ignoramus, but tries to reason as a knowledgeable person. Only because of such authors here in our Rostov region do not care more and the incidence rate is ever higher. In general, the country has stabilized and even started to decline, but in our country it is the other way around. And all because of these fool inadequate that the blizzard carry with a smart look. As a result, some sit at home, while others go and spread the infection, and because of those who do this, everyone else is forced to quarantine even longer. Because to check for yourself how dangerous this virus is, none of the normal people have the desire.
              Insanity grew stronger.
              Moderators, such articles should not be posted on the VO, but sent to the prosecutor’s office for verification!
              1. -3
                24 May 2020 17: 32
                hi Here you are and send it personally. that the article is that the comments are ordinary yup YouTube and others where they aggressively urge to overthrow Assad / Putin / underline the necessary. officially, Covida is several times more infectious than the flu and more deadly too. moreover, exhaled air is contagious as in the case of flu and as in any airborne infections, any mask reduces the spread by tens of%, but everyone needs to wear it because with a covert for 10-20 days the patient is contagious but has no symptoms. right there again they’ll pop up on their article because the masks are useless for them / 20 minutes / current for the sick (and the test is done every day, the weight is instant from the morning and evening to burst yes?) and even the masks are expensive .. and reusable like no naddaa ... here you are and throw this into the prosecutor’s office attaching a proof on masks and mortality, and so on.
          6. +4
            25 May 2020 02: 16
            I will add my option:
            1. There is a controlled "pandemic" - for this, a coronavirus is used, possibly several varieties, one strain is deadly, but with low virulence and contagiousness (a variant of biological weapons or even a chemical one based on organics because it looks like the effect of a suffocating agent - phosgene, for example - there is also a latent period, pulmonary edema and death on mechanical ventilation if the dose is good) - used locally to create hysteria and excitement (Wuhan, New York, Italy) (Perhaps we use) and other strains with a less lethal effect, or even other options pathogens - the results of tests for covid can be done depending on the situation (it is necessary +, it is not necessary - the person will not die);
            2. The goal is to turn the world around and establish a new world order - everywhere undermining the economy, mask and glove mode and digital control of the population.
            3. There remains universal vaccination for some purpose (they worked on the vaccine in advance or on the basis that the mortality rate is artificial, then the vaccine is not from coronavirus at all, since they already say that it is DNA-type and works on the effect on the cell genes with the aim of developing resistance to infection).
            4. Vaccination is brought up - "the second wave" (because they can start it), "there is no immunity" and so on - and the implementation of anti-epidemic measures is formally profiled and does not correlate with changes in morbidity.
          7. 0
            27 May 2020 08: 50
            That is, we have many times less mortality than in Europe, and more doctors are dying? How can this be? Only in the event that in Europe, the doctors removed themselves and did not go to work.
        3. +6
          23 May 2020 11: 31
          9
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          As a microbiologist (albeit a veterinarian), I have more and more questions about this "epidemic":

          1 No vaccine, earliest end of year. In Israel, they finished testing a drug that represents the average between the vaccine and the drug, with the diagnosis of coronavirus it is administered and it kills the virus now at the stage of an agreement with the manufacturers, they promise two months, we'll see.
          2 Surgical mask (usual), original up to 2 hours of protection, but we must also forget about the distance of 2 meters, it has a protection of 50-60%. Masks N90 protection up to 90%
          3 This is not a medical aspect but a political one.
        4. +9
          23 May 2020 12: 58
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          1. Where, in such a short time, can a vaccine that has been tested in humans come from? - this is from official posts

          Or the antidote was originally. What is the same Pneumonia? This is the same virus from the group of coronoviruses. As well as pig and bird flu ... these are all viruses from the group of coronoviruses.
          Moreover, with SARS, they did not close the whole world and there was no such hysteria. I think that Atypical pneumonia, pig flu, bird flu were all rehearsals in order to look at people's reactions, their suggestibility and how quickly people are infected with fear.
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          2. Protection measures are exaggerated. Mask (normal) - works only 20 minutes. Demand to wear constantly.
          + cut money on masks. In pharmacies - 40-50 rubles per unit at a cost of 2 rubles.

          Here I am about the same thing ... before the epidemic, the mask cost 4-5 rubles ... now this price is 10-15 times higher. Question masks started to be made of precious metals?
          In general, there are many questions and the answers are only in the form of guesses.
          1. +10
            23 May 2020 15: 34
            Here I am about the same thing ... before the epidemic, the mask cost 4-5 rubles ... now this price is 10-15 times higher.

            Eh, old man ... Masks - laughter. Here is "red and white" - a klondike. It would be interesting to see the statistics of vodka consumption and ambulance calls to those dying from drinking. I just went shopping for food and smoke. There are 3 buyers in the huge "Pyaterochka". In "Red and White" (a small shop converted from an apartment on the first floor) there are a crowd of Gorbachev's times. laughing And in appearance, half drinks without drying out, at least three days. No gloves and masks. Masks demanded in "Five" and "At Palych".
            And the virus is something like this - 20 apartments in the entrance. One apartment sick wife, their daughter. Very seriously, lying around under oxygen. Husband and mother in law
            in the same apartment -nothing. No snot, no chills. I am writing only what is before my eyes.
            1. +2
              23 May 2020 18: 13
              Quote: dauria
              Here I am about the same thing ... before the epidemic, the mask cost 4-5 rubles ... now this price is 10-15 times higher.

              Eh, old man ... Masks - laughter. Here is "red and white" - a klondike. It would be interesting to see the statistics of vodka consumption and ambulance calls to those dying from drinking. I just went shopping for food and smoke. There are 3 buyers in the huge "Pyaterochka". In "Red and White" (a small shop converted from an apartment on the first floor) there are a crowd of Gorbachev's times. laughing And in appearance, half drinks without drying out, at least three days. No gloves and masks. Masks demanded in "Five" and "At Palych".
              And the virus is something like this - 20 apartments in the entrance. One apartment sick wife, their daughter. Very seriously, lying around under oxygen. Husband and mother in law
              in the same apartment -nothing. No snot, no chills. I am writing only what is before my eyes.

              Well, what did you want, since there’s nothing more to do to drink than people laughing we are still on "self-isolation" drinks
          2. +8
            23 May 2020 15: 59
            Quote: NEXUS
            Atypical pneumonia, pig flu, bird flu were all ...
            ... from one locality and oddly enough - Wuhan
          3. +2
            24 May 2020 19: 33
            What is the same Pneumonia? This is the same virus from the group of coronoviruses. As well as pig and bird flu ... these are all viruses from the group of coronoviruses.

            This is another nonsense from the nexus
        5. +7
          23 May 2020 17: 17
          welcome colleague! I agree with you in many ways. - Do you remember dogs coronavirus gastroenteritis? they also die from it like flies, if you miss the moment and do not suspend it from the antiexcoccus system). But if ... and so, with the human CV, they found that most of the dead died as it turned out from diffuse vein thrombosis and it was necessary not to get them on mechanical ventilation (which ultimately led to alveolar crashes and poor gas exchange) and give oxygen (up to 4 l / min depending on the severity of hypoxia) + anticoagulants (ASS100, Markumar, Elikvis)
          * a former veterinarian who went into human medicine drinks
        6. 0
          23 May 2020 18: 50
          So maybe for the sake of it all started?
        7. +5
          24 May 2020 01: 23
          I, as a microbiologist

          As a microbiologist, you MUST KNOW the answers to these questions, at least from closed proforums
          But since it looks like you, as a veterinarian, are not allowed there, I will answer you personally. laughing

          1. The test schedule will be violated. For this reason, Trump ran into WHO to get out of the jurisdiction. They are legalists. In the Russian Federation, tests have already been conducted on volunteers (or not quite volunteers?) In this case, tests began immediately on rhesus past mice and so on.

          2. Well, that’s what any doctor knows. This is not to protect the wearer of the mask; this is to protect FROM the wearer of the mask.

          3. Officially because the plateau. My opinion is because it does not work. Spit on bans in the suburbs.

          About the dangers of the vaccine. This is the only interesting question from you. I can only say that personally I will receive first-hand information. And then I decide to get vaccinated or not.
        8. 0
          25 May 2020 10: 26
          1. Where, in such a short time, can a vaccine that has been tested in humans come from? - this is from official posts

          the vaccine may appear because coronoviruses are well known and especially those that have long been parasitic in humans. And the fact that she did not pass the full course of tests, then either the wishful thinking by our media, or now the testing process has been significantly shortened from 2 years to 2 months. For some reason I’m more confident in the first
          Protective measures are exaggerated. Mask (normal) - works only 20 minutes. Demand to wear constantly.

          protection measures are calculated on what the population can use in principle. I think you will not fantasize that if the authorities announced the mandatory wearing of a 2-layer biological suit and mask with a closed loop, then you would all rush to do it.
          If Kovid-19 is so dangerous, then why in the suburbs, where 800-900 people a day are now infected, the access regime is canceled and allowed to walk?

          I think this is a consequence of the stupid policy of the authorities and the stupidity of citizens. Instead of defeating the outbreak according to the Chinese scenario, our country went according to a sluggish European one. Which will significantly extend the duration of the epidemic.
        9. 0
          27 May 2020 09: 05
          I did not see something in the text about the readiness of the vaccine. In general, they promise a year and a half - two as usual. This is in the western editions
      3. +15
        23 May 2020 07: 16
        I support this thesis. in December 2019, we had an outbreak of severe pneumonia.
        I don’t have statistics, but the number of patients in my environment has gone over 6 people.
        when, as in the past, I basically didn’t see anyone with pneumonia.
        1. +13
          23 May 2020 09: 17
          I have the same story.
          From December to March, several of my acquaintances, including myself, fell ill with something like pneumonia of varying severity. One almost died. Doctors did not offer a clear diagnosis or treatment method. Just tried different antibiotics.
          The thread is not dead.
          But what was that?
          1. +11
            23 May 2020 13: 18
            Quote: Thunderbringer
            Doctors did not offer a clear diagnosis or treatment method.

            I will probably surprise you, but NONE VIRUS medicine has won.
            What coronovirus doctors say ... a person is killed not by a virus, but by the RESPONSE of the body, in the form of a crowd of macrophages (body defenders) that prevent the lungs from pumping oxygen, with their actions. Such an immune explosion occurs.
            The question is, with simple flu or pneumonia, why does this not happen?
            One doctor tried to explain on fingers how the infected body works. In the human body, in addition to various defense systems, there are macrophage bacteria. They are kind of like cops in the body. What does it have to do with DPS nicknames, opera, riot police, and so on ... in general, there are three wagons of varieties of these macrophages. And so, when the virus gets into the cell and forces it to produce similar infected cells, macrophages, having detected a threat, begin to destroy these diseased cells, or reprogram them (like an antivirus works like in a computer). So why are children practically either not susceptible to this infection, or endure it without noticing? In a child’s body, the formation of an army of macrophages is at the stage of, say, traffic controllers-DPS-nicks. So far, they don’t have any riot police, special forces, or Rosguard in their bodies. And when the virus enters the child’s body, with a small number of macrophages, the situation is localized and resolves.
            In the adult organism, the army of these macrophages is huge ... and what is interesting, the older the person, the larger this army. And the body’s response to the invasion of the virus is much stronger than that of a child. All kinds of macrophages, ... and riot police, special forces, and the guard and regular units ... are breaking into the war against the virus ... and this whole army stupidly drives the body into lethal phase.
            That's how a familiar doctor explained it all to me.
            And all his explanations convinced me more and more that all these SARS, avian and swine flu, coronovirus and AIDS are artificial viruses. By the way I was very surprised when I found out that avian, swine flu, AIDS and Ebola virus are REALLY PATENTED!
        2. +9
          23 May 2020 10: 51
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          in December 2019, we had an outbreak of severe pneumonia.

          in November 2 30- and 40-year-old men with absolutely antibiotic-resistant microflora also died in our intensive care unit. Only, as it becomes known, the virus began to circulate in November. Indeed, according to the result of initial testing, about 19% of the population already had antibodies. When did they manage to work them out?
        3. -1
          23 May 2020 11: 43
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          when, as in the past, I basically didn’t see anyone with pneumonia.

          Various microorganisms bacteria, viruses can cause pneumonia.
          From a number of them there are vaccinations. Older than 60 years old they always send a message that they need to be vaccinated. I didn’t do it and got there, a 10-day snapshot at home with an antibiotic, a snapshot and another antibiotic for another 5 days, that's all.
          FOR INFORMATION
          A novice radiologist from the pictures determines the usual pneumonia or the crown, the picture is completely different.
    2. +31
      23 May 2020 06: 24
      I would like to agree with the author, but ... Of my friends, i.e. Of those whom I personally know, five people have become infected with this infection. Of these, three died. Two of the deceased - with the past of the Marines (sports and health over the edge) and without chronic diseases.
      1. AUL
        +29
        23 May 2020 06: 42
        From the whole article I can agree with only one phrase:
        Government systems and society were absolutely unprepared for a pandemic or quarantine, which, in its essence, was false.
        There was no quarantine. There was a criminal Sobyanin mess in the metro! Self-isolation - has nothing to do with quarantine. But paralysis or incompetent decisions of the authorities take place. And alas, complete indifference of the population, eternal hope for the last trump card - "Maybe ..."
        1. +17
          23 May 2020 06: 56
          Compared to the United States, Russia and Moscow in particular are an example of organization, discipline and wise leadership! And if the author doubts that the coronavirus is very scary, let it go into the "red zone", it is really scary, especially considering that there is no cure for therapeutic treatment or a vaccine to prevent infection, that the virus gives a lot of complications to almost everything from the brain to vessels of the legs, according to the latest data, even after "curing" (and in fact after survival, since there is no medicine yet), a person loses 9-10 years of life, many become disabled ... well, the most common flu according to the author!
          1. +7
            23 May 2020 09: 19
            So he does not say that it is not scary. He says that it is not scary for everyone. Like the flu, thousands die every year, which is also scary. But there’s no panic about it.
            1. +4
              24 May 2020 11: 55
              Not 10, not 4, and not even 1% of patients die of influenza. Mortality from influenza is slightly higher than 0.1%. Moreover, this is a steady number, taking into account the vaccines and the presence of patients recovering and recently recovered.
              And in the case of KOVID 19 in some regions the mortality rate is up to 10% and this is at the start of the infection, in Russia the mortality rate is less than 1%, but this is still several times higher than the death rate from influenza. And when self-isolation was introduced, they had to take into account the worst-case scenarios. And the worst is the mortality rate above 10%, as happened in Europe in some foci. 10% is a monstrous figure. It was obtained there because testing was carried out by a small percentage of the population, mainly with severe symptoms. But this means that there is a HUGE number of undetected carriers of the virus, and there is no way to test them. Hence, almost the only measure to try to somehow slow down the development of the epidemic is quarantine.
              I think that it’s not a matter of panic, they just took measures that were more or less justified, were guided by the worst case scenario and judging by the fact that our number was high enough, we could not do without quarantine.
              We have a high mortality rate among health workers, 15% of all deaths are health workers. To think it over is VERY much. Another argument is that the measures were generally justified, maybe they should have been introduced even earlier and even tougher.
          2. 0
            23 May 2020 09: 45
            Quote: LeonidL
            gives a lot of complications for almost everything from the brain to the vessels of the legs, according to the latest data, even after "healing" (and in fact after survival, since there is no medicine yet), a person loses 9-10 years of life, many become disabled ... well, the most common flu by author!

            Does the blood-brain barrier pass?
          3. 0
            23 May 2020 09: 50
            And who will let us into the "red zone"?
            1. +5
              23 May 2020 12: 58
              Become a volunteer (volunteer) and work a month!
          4. +3
            23 May 2020 11: 01
            Quote: LeonidL
            Compared to the United States, Russia and Moscow in particular are an example of organization, discipline and wise leadership!

            then explain to me why under the leadership of the mortality rate among physicians in Russia is 16 times higher than the mortality rate of physicians in Europe.
            And further...
            1. The chief sanitary doctor Popova told Putin that the number of positive tests in the country was about 10%.
            The population of the country is about 146 million, then there should be about
            1. +2
              25 May 2020 17: 16
              I will not say for all BUT, many doctors and medical staff in our city hospital did not wear masks, and not for the reason that they were not enough, do not ask where it is - I think everywhere and still including ... And Putin, Popova, Sobyanin and others had nothing to do with it, yesterday they were in the park - an impression of 8 out of 10 from the MacLeod clan ...
          5. -6
            23 May 2020 11: 01
            Quote: LeonidL
            Compared to the United States, Russia and Moscow in particular are an example of organization, discipline and wise leadership!

            then explain to me why under the leadership of the mortality rate among physicians in Russia is 16 times higher than the mortality rate of physicians in Europe.
            And further...
            1. The chief sanitary doctor Popova told Putin that the number of positive tests in the country was about 10%.
            The population of the country is about 146 million, then there should be about
            1. -4
              23 May 2020 11: 16
              Quote: Silvestr
              The population of the country is about 146 million, then there should be about

              The country's population is 146 million, then there should be about 14 million patients.
              About 8 million tests were completed and then there should be about 800 thousand patients. The figures of official data are significantly different, for some reason?
              And further..
              "The figures for the incidence and mortality of coronavirus throughout Dagestan are underestimated, and do not give an idea of ​​the real scale of the spread of the infection. Because of this, drugs for its treatment, distributed across regions based on statistics, do not reach the republic," - Irina Tragira, head specialists who arrived in Derbent from Moscow.
              1. +3
                23 May 2020 13: 01
                What do you mean "should be"? How in case of an unknown / incomprehensible infection can you determine how much should be? Are you an infectious disease specialist yourself? Microbiologist? At least a doctor?
                1. 0
                  23 May 2020 13: 16
                  Quote: Evgeniy-111
                  What do you mean "should be"?

                  In order to calculate 10% of the number you need to know arithmetic. And any infection should be predicted and analyzed. It is the forecast that determines the number of beds deployed and their financing. Arithmetic of medical care organization however
          6. 0
            27 May 2020 09: 09
            There will be no proofs on research about the loss of 10 years of life and people with disabilities, I understand correctly?
        2. +4
          23 May 2020 10: 54
          Quote from AUL
          the last trump card - "Maybe ..."

          and it was precisely on this principle that the authorities reacted only when a critical situation arose and began to react frantically.
      2. +21
        23 May 2020 07: 22
        Quote: Valery Valery
        Two of the deceased - with the past of the Marines (sports and health over the edge) and without chronic diseases.

        I can’t even believe it ...

        From my former work, a woman, 18 days in intensive care, fell ill. there is her daughter, son-in-law granddaughter.

        Everyone survived, but how much longer did they have to recover?

        author:
        Firstly, there is no doubt that COVID-19 is not a particularly dangerous disease.

        Why don't the author visit the infectious diseases hospital (without, of course, unnecessary fake masks and gloves) and announce this encouraging message -directly sick?
        They would be very encouraged !. Yes

        The usual flu, yes: that’s why the nursing staff at nursing homes running headlong in full force of them in Italy, Spain. France and so forth Alarmists, see! angry
        1. +5
          23 May 2020 12: 18
          My ex-colleague died 46 years old, pneumonia, covid, was taken to the region, died after 5 days
          1. +2
            23 May 2020 13: 08
            Quote: your1970
            My ex-colleague died 46 years old, pneumonia, covid, was taken to the region, died after 5 days

            What a nightmare, quite young ... Ay-yai-yay!

            I am sorry ...
      3. +2
        23 May 2020 09: 43
        Quote: Valery Valery
        I would like to agree with the author, but ... Of my friends, i.e. Of those whom I personally know, five people have become infected with this infection. Of these, three died. Two of the deceased - with the past of the Marines (sports and health over the edge) and without chronic diseases.

        How old are people?
        1. +6
          23 May 2020 11: 19
          Quote: Krasnodar
          How old are people?

          The youngest dead physicians:
          Samatov Nail Railevich, 28 years, district therapist, Yegoryevskaya CRH, Yegoryevsk, Moscow region
          Kontseva Evgeny Igorevich, 26 years, traumatologist-orthopedist, Abakan interdistrict clinical hospital, Abakan, Republic of Khakassia
          1. +2
            23 May 2020 11: 20
            Very young ... what complications should they have arisen ...
      4. +19
        23 May 2020 10: 53
        Quote: Valery Valery
        I would like to agree with the author, but ...

        .. not worth it! This is an amateur writing about an unknown problem.
        1. AUL
          0
          23 May 2020 11: 50
          Quote: Silvestr
          This is an amateur writing about an unknown problem.

          Well, as the reduction of all kinds of restrictions begins, a peppy little article was needed to calm the population - like, this whole virus is a fake. Well, the author was found.
          1. -1
            23 May 2020 13: 22
            Quote from AUL
            to calm the population -

            Ahead of the vote!
        2. +6
          23 May 2020 20: 24
          Guys, time will judge us all very soon. Understand for yourself that both the author and Lukashenko are right with the Swedes. When several people fall ill at once in a family, this is our Russian accident. How did they defend themselves? Interestingly - do all masked houses go? The sick person must definitely be wearing a mask, and it’s hard for him to breathe. How to maintain social distance at home? Doctors leave all patients to be treated at home, for the most part they make the diagnosis without any analysis and without testing. They only take to the hospital if there are serious breathing problems. Therefore, hospitals have many deaths. If everything is as serious as you write, then quarantine should be real, not self-isolation. Here are just nowhere to treat patients, hospitals are optimized.
      5. -1
        23 May 2020 18: 44
        No no. No need to agree with the author. This is a regular bookmarked article. People react and begin to tell everything ..... What they heard, what was, what was not. What did the neighbor say. But in general, public opinion can be added up.
        See how many stories have been told here .......
      6. -1
        23 December 2020 18: 44
        crying on the tape, the next races of today, someone out there proved that the masks do not hold the virus and a bunch of kamenty ode! in the text, the original says that a simpler mask delays not 90% but 60%, which logically reduces the ability of the emitting ivrus to infect as much as possible, including the impact of doses. otherwise, even if 1 piece infects and not millions from microdroplets, probably several million will contaminate more and more) but in such topics you will never see that the mask does not allow oxygen to pass through and retains carbon dioxide which is still a billion times smaller than the virus. they are all just actually terrorists.
    3. -4
      23 May 2020 06: 27
      Is Soros here marked?
      1. +4
        23 May 2020 06: 53
        And the gates that Bill. Yes
    4. -1
      23 May 2020 07: 31
      Our government can be congratulated on a turning point in a small, war-like war! wink
    5. +10
      23 May 2020 10: 35
      Quote: Comrade
      This is a project, a media show that someone launched for certain purposes on a global scale.

      want to say that 255 deaths in 2 months of medical shows? No words, only a cynic and an ignoramus can mock the dead so
      1. +4
        23 May 2020 14: 09
        Yes, a terrible cove is killing everyone ....
  2. +11
    23 May 2020 05: 00
    Wait until the end of the disease, and only then you can draw conclusions. You need to analyze large amounts of data with different samples.
    1. +8
      23 May 2020 09: 25
      Nothing is over yet.
      Moreover. Anyway, quarantine measures will have to be canceled in the near future, otherwise the country will end. But the virus will not go anywhere, and then a real epidemic will come.
      All of these quarantine restrictive measures are needed only for the preparation of medicine. Give time.
      Without medicine and a vaccine, nothing will cure itself and will not disappear.
      While there is neither one nor the other, and most likely will not appear in the coming year. So we’ll get along with almost everything.
      It is hoped that the medicine did manage to get ready, or that we really won’t enter those 8% of especially severe cases.
      1. +1
        23 May 2020 09: 29
        That's why I suggested surviving the event, and then draw conclusions, and not vice versa.
        1. +10
          23 May 2020 14: 12
          This is the main goal of the so-called "protective" measures, and no one will convince me otherwise ....
          1. +2
            23 May 2020 14: 54
            Then the first thing you need to throw away your cell phone, it can track you.
  3. +27
    23 May 2020 05: 04
    Not dangerous? Yesterday went to the grandfather, lungs refuse. My daughter told them that the coronavirus was a fiction and constantly went to them. The day before yesterday, to a 40-year-old woman .. Temperature 39 lasts a week, faints. She refused hospitalization .. Today they called, a new outbreak ..
    And all because of such "experts". Gather you all in one city and go to the cinema there, swim on the beach, go to restaurants and discos.
    In a year we’ll see how many of you will remain.
    1. +26
      23 May 2020 05: 53
      Quote: LAWNER
      And all because of such "experts". Gather you all in one city and go to the cinema there, swim on the beach, go to restaurants and discos.
      In a year we’ll see how many of you will remain.

      Uncle doctor, stop treating us. We have been gathered in one country for about 30 years, we eat different foods that are not good for the body; we use medicines that should give a second youth at a price; we work without union support and compliance with the PTB; we listen from the screens any crap that gives nothing to the mind or heart; we wipe ourselves off with annual presidential messages and direct lines; someone bathes, someone goes to discos, someone drives in wheelchairs ...
      To say how many of us are left of the population that was in 1991? If we remove about 10 million registered migrants and citizens who received passports in the process of becoming a new Russia - about 125 million ... Natural population decline! So tell us what it is better to die from: from syphilis, from dysentery or from coronavirus?
      Are you here, such a correct doctor, did you take everything into account? So where are your findings? What did you suggest? Stay home until the great storyteller resets the coronavirus pandemic?
      Yes, during this time you can just die from anything, and then statistics will tell about deaths NOT FROM CORONAVIRUS ...
      Thank you for your heroic work and for taking care of the health of the nation! Yesterday they called an ambulance to a relative (suspected stroke): he did not let doctors in, he resisted the examination. Doctors were warned about this situation. What did they do? A fat aunt wheeled from the doorway that "since they didn’t let us in, we can’t do anything" ... And ... they left, despite persuasion, tears and requests. But what about? The landlord, who has a psychiatric disorder due to a stroke (according to external signs, incoherent speech, impaired musculoskeletal system functions, repeated monologues ...) did not let them go. There was not even any attempt to persuade the patient to measure pressure or something else ...
      And here you are scratching in all seriousness with disease statistics less than 1% of the total mortality of the Russian population? Will help you! You are on the right track, citizen.
      1. AUL
        +9
        23 May 2020 06: 46
        Quote: ROSS 42
        So tell us what it is better to die from: from syphilis, from dysentery or from coronavirus?
        From syphilis - you will die a man, and not su ... ce!
      2. +6
        23 May 2020 11: 35
        That is the law. If he refuses treatment, the paramedic can do nothing. Submit to court, recognize him as having limited legal capacity. Then talk about the evil Aunt.
      3. +4
        23 May 2020 13: 05
        Very emotional, but not the case.
    2. +14
      23 May 2020 06: 12
      About the temperature of the week. What about outbreaks of pneumonia in all of Russia in December ?? 1-3 weeks in people, the temperature crushed and nothing helped ?? Did not hear? Yes, because on TV they didn’t shout about it. For example, in Moscow there was an increase of 40%.
      1. +35
        23 May 2020 06: 47
        There was also an outbreak of mortality (+ 18% from diseases of the respiratory system) in the spring of 2016 - he himself was ill with this muck, suffered from a headache, coughed up green dense phlegm from his lungs almost continuously. Thank you to the ambulance: they came, saw, said in the first two minutes, "and you have the same thing that everyone has ..." and prescribed the antibiotic cephalosporin in ampoules. After the first injection, the head passed in half an hour, after the second, expectoration became easier - i.e. it was a bacterium. I know from friends and acquaintances that many elderly people in the spring of 2016 were very sick and even died. The media is silent about that epidemic - I have a version why.
        Because this disease, like many others, came to us almost certainly from Central Asia, where there is no medicine (from there, polio also sometimes wanders to us from 2010, which it seems that it should no longer be on the planet!). The authorities hide in the media any negative things about Central Asia and migrant workers from there (for example, that the GTA gang - these were ISIS terrorist spills), so as not to introduce a strict visa regime with these countries. Similarly, from that pulmonary infection - why do Russians need to know what nasty things come to us from Central Asia - they will demand to close the border, and where will we get new guest workers for slaves?
        1. +2
          23 May 2020 09: 59
          That's for sure, he was ill himself and two friends died.
          1. +6
            23 May 2020 20: 35
            If you make a selection of all the comments on this article, you get a fairly objective picture, completely pros and cons. The conclusion is that about 40% of the population has died out in the country. (2 out of five died, he became ill, two died, etc.). Why sow panic.
            1. +2
              24 May 2020 09: 58
              That was 4 years ago. What kind of panic?
              1. +3
                24 May 2020 21: 18
                In xnumx?
                There was a burst of pneumonia. The causative agents of pneumonia, more than 100 protozoa, bacteria, viruses and fungi.
                What they are hiding, now under the crow-panic, is the main thing. And here are the options worse than this ARVI.
                1. +1
                  25 May 2020 01: 50
                  Yes, in 2016, in the spring.
                  I recently checked the statistics - now everything seems to be as usual in 2016, no articles, no references.
                  But earlier, in 2018, I found medical articles through Yandex that in the spring of 2016, mortality from respiratory diseases / lung diseases increased by 18% in Russia (not the total mortality, namely from this type of disease). Maybe somewhere on computers I can find this article (I have not found it yet) - I will publish it here.
                  I understand that my statements are unfounded at the moment, but I remember that and my neighbor (whose parents were sick harder than me) remembers.

                  I can give a similar example of the completely erased political events of 2010: through Yandex it is not searched at all in any way!
                  And I remember that in late summer, early autumn, Zhirinovsky for several days (a week or more) on many radio stations and on TV several times suggested unprecedented (for him): make friends with NATO, stop hostility with the United States, help them fight in Afghanistan ! Then Medvedev was in power and it looks like the elite decided to change course by 180 degrees, but decided to launch a "test balloon" in the form of a provocateur Zhirinovsky (after all, he always votes in the Duma as the authorities should - they just buy him) to probe the reaction of society, but apparently not very There was a successful reaction, they decided not to change the course, to leave it the same (or Putin ran into Medvedev) - all this venture with Zhirinovsky was erased from the news or the search was blocked on Yandex.
                2. +2
                  25 May 2020 01: 59
                  Here I found about the increased mortality from pneumonia in 2016 (all year): https://tass.ru/obschestvo/4715756
                  We look at the histogram, we see an excess over the level of 2017 and 2018:

                  Exceeding at 5200, or 20% to the level of 2017-18.
                  1. +1
                    25 May 2020 19: 05
                    I add another old article about the growth of pneumonia in 2016:
                    http://alla-astakhova.ru/hroniki-pikiruyushhej-pnevmonii/
                    - there is a link to the resolution No. 8 of the chief sanitary doctor of Moscow (Rospotrebnadzor) E.E. Andreeva on July 29, 2016:
                    In July 2016, the decree of the Chief Sanitary Doctor of Moscow Elena Andreeva indicated an increase in the incidence of community-acquired pneumonia in the capital 27 percent compared to the previous year, double mortality, mortality - one and a half times.

                    I did not understand why the admins erased my previous comment on this topic to me?
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        2. +1
          23 May 2020 13: 09
          I have a different version - why: the number of people is just growing, the number of diseases is growing in progression (when arithmetic, and when geometric). If we talk about all types and variants of diseases, not a single media is enough (this is the same as with crime - no matter how you turn something on, it’s illnesses, epidemics, killings, fires, emergency situations and so on). Are you more interested in such news media?
    3. +1
      23 May 2020 06: 22
      Or, as in India, with sticks to drive into a minibus with an infected patient. laughing
    4. +7
      23 May 2020 07: 20
      Quote: LAWNER
      Not dangerous? Yesterday went to the grandfather, lungs refuse. My daughter told them that the coronavirus was a fiction and constantly went to them. The day before yesterday, to a 40-year-old woman .. Temperature 39 lasts a week, faints. She refused hospitalization .. Today they called, a new outbreak ..
      And all because of such "experts". Gather you all in one city and go to the cinema there, swim on the beach, go to restaurants and discos.
      In a year we’ll see how many of you will remain.


      the point is not that "there was no virus", it seems that it was and is. the fact is that the distribution began long before the Chinese announced. occupied and kept silent. special thanks to them for this.
      1. +12
        23 May 2020 09: 46
        Since ancient times, mankind has used epidemics as a weapon. Dead animals or corpses of people were thrown over the walls of the enemy. But only in the 21st century does the epidemic become a tool for solving political problems, both internal and external.
        One gets the impression that the coronavirus epidemic in our country was urgently needed by someone, and not by one "someone". I still wonder: how is this so? Why were the airports in Moscow and other metropolitan areas not immediately harshly quarantined, and the disease went on? Why did they allow the infected to escape from hospitals? And no other explanation suggests itself, except one. Because it was needed by the very "someone" who originally had a plan. However, decisions on how to profitably use covid were not ready for everyone. The methods of feasting on corpses were born spontaneously. Now - use our deaths, who can! Dance someone's profit on our bones! Dancing in an embrace with the death and lifelong illness of survivors! ..

        I am waiting for the final reaction of the central government to what has happened. And according to it it will become clear to whom covid-bacchanalia was urgently needed, and who created its prerequisites in the form of dead medicine - and so it is clear.
        In the meantime, in my village belatedly, they began to die from the coronavirus. I hear about it from conversations under the windows. I see how the reports of deaths have finally scattered people into social distances, clothed all faces in a row in masks, emptied their pockets, killed faith in the future - it's time to take off the masks from "someone." All into the light, all - under the lamps of investigators!
        1. +3
          23 May 2020 20: 58
          Now all the deaths are from the coronovirus, including, as was written above, and 5 gunshots and 7 knife guns. The authorities promised the families of the victims 1–2 million each. This is an expanse for corruption.
      2. +2
        23 May 2020 12: 46
        what the Chinese announced. occupied and silenced. For this, they will have to say special thanks.


        They already say, especially Trump.
    5. +5
      23 May 2020 09: 27
      Quote: LAWNER
      And all because of such "experts". Gather you all in one city and go to the cinema there, swim on the beach, go to restaurants and discos.
      In a year we’ll see how many of you will remain.

      So far, statistics say that approximately 93% will remain.
      With normal flu, approximately 95% will remain.
    6. +1
      24 May 2020 22: 24
      Those who fear the kingdom of heaven do not have it!
  4. +11
    23 May 2020 05: 21
    Well, according to those from independent specialists in virology, the so-called covid 19 is really a hodgepodge of several forms of various diseases. It is based on one of the severe forms of the flu, as well as pneumonia, which this flu essentially activates in the human body. Therefore, it is pneumonia that is diagnosed, and not some kind of covid 19! So the information about the synthesis of this virus is true.
    1. 0
      23 May 2020 07: 29
      Quote: Thrifty
      Well, according to those from independent specialists in virology, the so-called covid 19 is really a hodgepodge

      can you give this data? what segments will be collected in a "hodgepodge" those who claim it should happily present evidence.

      for us mortals, at least on the fingers as in the photo:
      such a segment is then stuck there and so on.
      1. -2
        23 May 2020 12: 51
        Maki Avellyevich, I’m not a geneticist, not a virologist, and not a microbiologist, unlike those who confidently claim that covid19 is complex, but synthetics, and fragments do not need to be glued somewhere! For the virus itself is assembled very smartly as a whole, but it works in the human body as several diseases with complications at once.
        1. +1
          23 May 2020 16: 35
          Quote: Thrifty
          Maki Avellyevich, I’m not a geneticist, not a virologist, and not a microbiologist, unlike those who confidently claim that Kovid19 is complex, but synthetic,

          So take the trouble to give a link to those who confidently declare.
          This is the minimum for such statements.
    2. +2
      25 May 2020 16: 07
      according to data from independent specialists in virology, the so-called covid 19 is really a hodgepodge of several forms of various diseases.

      There is no such data, the invention of pure water. Give a link to this data, some article with specifics.
  5. +11
    23 May 2020 05: 41
    Author, are you an epidemiologist, or a virologist, or someone else? If not, why do you talk about things in which you don’t understand a damn thing?
    1. +8
      23 May 2020 06: 46
      A perfectly true remark, if the author is a specialist, then it should be indicated at the beginning of the article, or at least in the signature, and it seems that this is another la-la-la-la-la who hopes to be responsible (for the bazaar) solely in the form of passing tests (saying - and what else to take from me ...).
      1. +7
        23 May 2020 07: 33
        judging by the bravado with the nihilism of the author of the article, himself and his relatives with friends, this infection has bypassed yet ...
        well, well ... don’t say gop until you jump over ....
    2. +14
      23 May 2020 09: 37
      Quote: certero
      Author, are you an epidemiologist, or a virologist, or someone else? If not, why do you talk about things in which you don’t understand a damn thing?

      Consider this as the attitude of a simple, uncomplicated person to a topic. Most of these people, and they have questions. Those answers that experts give them already cease to suit them, because people are already really tired, and many will soon have nothing to eat in the literal sense.
      Indeed, unemployment is actually growing, and the state and banks continue to demand money from citizens no matter what.
      And more and more questions arise, but what do we do next? Dying of cold on the street because the bank took the apartment?
      Or take a chance, spit on the virus, and try to survive?
      Because with this virus the probability of survival is more than 90%, but without money, the probability is 0.
  6. +12
    23 May 2020 05: 54
    I will say so ... safe and God protects! Those who guard themselves, God will protect them ... Yes
    1. 0
      23 May 2020 06: 36
      Quote: Masha
      I will say so ... safe and God protects! Those who guard themselves, God will protect them ... Yes

      Exactly, just do not need to bring sensible things to the point of absurdity. And then you can self-climb into a plastic bag for self-isolation. feel It is said, we’ll get over everything. There is no absolute quarantine and never will be. The virus is around us. His carriers will remain. And it can be activated over time. And if you do not have antibodies ...... A vaccine .... Well, if there is no mind, then experimental rabbits and mice go ahead. You and normal time interfered with the New World Order, then God himself ordered the liberals to use it. Even if the entire government is vaccinated, this does not mean that it will suit everyone.
  7. +4
    23 May 2020 06: 00
    wait and see ... if we wait ...
  8. +9
    23 May 2020 06: 03
    Only in our country, fans are better versed in football than coaches, and patients are better than doctors in treatment. That would have worked in intensive care ....... Well, what is epidemiology, virology and how is learning, the collection of new data the author does not know at all, give him 100% treatment here and now with a magic wand. You would be in the Middle Ages ...
    1. +7
      23 May 2020 10: 00
      The official figure: 91 health workers died from cove. A named obituary is available in Zen. True doctors stood to the end, settling in hospitals. On mobile phones, they said goodbye to their relatives. It was impossible to read without tears.
      Glory to the heroes of the doctors!
      1. +4
        23 May 2020 11: 22
        Quote: depressant
        The official figure: 91 health workers died from cove.

        https://sites.google.com/view/covid-memory/home
        255!
    2. 0
      29 May 2020 22: 46
      Quote: Alexander S.
      Only in our country, fans are better versed in football than coaches, and patients are better than doctors in treatment. That would have worked in intensive care ....... Well, what is epidemiology, virology and how is learning, the collection of new data the author does not know at all, give him 100% treatment here and now with a magic wand. You would be in the Middle Ages ...


      Then my request to you: live in Cheboksary (not the smallest city, more than 450 thousand people without a satellite city) for a year, talk to sick (no matter what) people, make a sample of opinions. I assure you: you will find few positive reviews. From the age of 14 (approximately) every year I lay in one hospital, then another, and in the outpatient clinic I wandered around all (except for one hospital, maybe I won't talk about polyclinics, it's always even worse there). So that's it. Doctors themselves cannot make a diagnosis (they cannot even determine what the patient has: peritonitis or a fracture of the pelvis, they do not care, the patient is over 80, she will die soon anyway ...). All right, it would be done by therapists, their business should be sent to a specialist in severe cases, so the "specialists" know only one phrase: "let's see in dynamics." So dynamite, and for years. And to Moscow or, at worst, Kazan, you need to pull out a referral due to the fact that the insurance companies will gnaw their throats for this: it costs money (well, politics too: Chuvashia is a healthy land! ..). By the way, th MRI is also a problem! All the more specific, like an MRI of the mediastinum with contrast. YES MRI HEADS WITH CONTRAST ALSO PRESCRIBED WITH GUTTING !!! And in the same paid offices it is not a question to do 3 (it was 5 years ago, now I don’t know) thousands of research and the same amount of contrast.

      By the way about the birds. Now the Federal Center for Traumatology has been redesigned for "covid" needs. In the republic, only there they performed complex operations for injuries, such as a fracture of the neck of the bone, etc. Now this is not done anywhere and is not allowed outside the republic. WHAT'S THIS??? CARE SC ... KO ???

      Here, go outside the Moscow region and cities with a million-plus population to hospitals, and then just say what doctors are white and fluffy hard workers. They are no less rasp ... uh .... gouging than everyone else, and the Hippocratic oath does not mean anything to them. There are very few humane ones, and even fewer professionals. Thank you for the time being.
  9. +5
    23 May 2020 06: 09
    When they themselves are on their deathbed, then they will believe, and not only in a pandemic, but also in God. And then after all what, give them death so that they believe. It’s your right to believe or not to believe, just as if it weren’t too late, and you did not have to repent belatedly.
    1. +11
      23 May 2020 09: 53
      They show us on TV how the rich of this world sit at home. They miss a little, but nothing. They sing songs under the balcony of a private castle, play sports on simulators in specially equipped home rooms, record videos of themselves about their loved ones on equipment worth several million rubles.
      Boring them. A lot of money, but boring.
      But to us, it turns out to be simple not to boredom.
      Here I am. We have been working since mid-April, despite the formidable decrees of our Governor. Naturally, everything is closed, we go to work through the back yard, so that outwardly everything would be as if isolation measures. Full office to the people. Checks, meetings and more. At the same time, our activity is in no way connected with life support. We are not the police, not the firemen, not the doctors. Just protect the forest.
      And now a month ago, our salaries decreased to the minimum values. That is, let’s say an engineer and a fireman now receive the same amount from the state - 12 rubles a month.
      But that is not all. Mass reduction announced. And this is the situation in general among all state employees with whom I am familiar.
      What shall we do? To sit further at home and look at the stars, what good fellows are they?
      So we will soon be cut off electricity for non-payment, there will be no one to look at.
      It turns out that we will tolerate a little more, and go out into the street. All the same, there are more chances to survive than sitting at home waiting for bills to pay everything from the state.
      We all understand, both about the danger of the virus, and about the calls of doctors, and even about the fear of the rich to get infected.
      But we just need at least some chance, albeit not a big one. And in the case of this virus, it is still not small.
      1. -1
        24 May 2020 23: 23
        Quote: Thunderbringer
        And this is the situation in general among all state employees with whom I am familiar.

        I can say if not a state employee. The situation is similar. I worked all this time, in addition to the very first week, we were promised to pay twice as much, and paid three times less .....
        I don’t know a single acquaintance who would fall ill with a crown, but I already know 6 people who were fired ...... Therefore, what’s worse, a virus or the fight against it, at least the question is not clear for me ....
    2. +2
      23 May 2020 10: 04
      They will have to repent. Not before the priest - before the investigator. I really hope for it. Self-isolation significantly worsened my health.
      1. +5
        23 May 2020 11: 03
        Do not repent, but respond. But only when we shake off information noodles from our ears. The top ones all over the world started something vile, and on a global scale. And while they manage to bully us.
        But even my wife, a person far from politics, began to guess that we were being brazenly deceived. In the world, nothing happens in a complete vacuum. There is always a cause and effect. And always what is happening is beneficial to someone, man or Nature. In our case, I suspect that it is beneficial to nonhumans in the human image. And where are they from - not so important, although interesting - China or America?
        And "ours" are only singers of this duet.
  10. +1
    23 May 2020 06: 12
    World pandemic announced after outbreak in China

    Woz did not announce a pandemic. There is an unintelligible tweet of some official who said that it Could be a pandemic

    Recent data
    People do not die from pneumonia, but from pulmonary vein thrombosis. Virus-infected cells attack, die, and if too quickly, then thrombosis. Therefore, ventilators do not help.
    Drink blood thinners
    1. +1
      23 May 2020 07: 04
      Quote: Oleg133
      Drink blood thinners

      Is it vodka or something?
      1. 0
        23 May 2020 07: 11
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Is it vodka or something?

        Water from the tap. feel
        1. +4
          23 May 2020 10: 08
          From the faucets in the kitchen and bathroom flows rust. It is useless to protest. But pay in full and try not to do it.
      2. +2
        23 May 2020 07: 42
        Only dissolve an aspirin tablet in it before use smile
    2. +5
      23 May 2020 07: 25
      Quote: Oleg133
      Woz did not announce a pandemic. There is an unintelligible tweet of some official who said that it Could be a pandemic


      Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO Director-General, stated that the situation with the spread of COVID-19 can be described as pandemic. This is due to the rapidly increasing number of cases outside China over the past two weeks, which affects an increasing number of countries.
      In his statement, the Director General said: “Let me be clear: that we characterize this situation as a pandemic, does not mean countries should give up. The idea that countries should move from containment to mitigation is wrong and dangerous. "
      http://www.euro.who.int/ru/health-topics/health-emergencies/coronavirus-covid-19/news/news/2020/3/who-announces-covid-19-outbreak-a-pandemic
      At 22 \ 05 \ 20 in the world
      Sick 5,257,234
      Recovered 2,122,417
      336,863 died
    3. +2
      23 May 2020 07: 52
      Quote: Oleg133
      Woz did not announce a pandemic. There is an unintelligible tweet of some official who said that it Could be a pandemic

      damn well before you write nonsense at least the WHO site look or something
      Over the past two weeks, the number of cases of COVID-19 outside of China has increased 13 times, and the number of countries affected by the spread of the virus has tripled.

      Currently, more than 114 thousand cases of the disease have been reported in 118 countries, and 4 people have died. ...
      ... Therefore, we conclude that the distribution of COVID-19 can be described as a pandemic.

      https://www.who.int/ru/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---11-march-2020
    4. +1
      23 May 2020 07: 59
      Quote: Oleg133
      and if too fast, then thrombosis. Therefore, ventilators do not help.
      Drink blood thinners

      Are you a medic ?!
      if not then who specifically offers? !!!!
      I would already criminalize near-medical nonsense
      1. +10
        23 May 2020 10: 11
        So you, Barmaleyka, directly point to Skvortsova. It was she who raised the wave, they say, Kovid is treated with anti-malarial drugs. They began to apply. Mortality has doubled.
        Investigative Committee, ay!
        1. +2
          23 May 2020 10: 21
          Quote: depressant
          So you, Barmaleyka, directly point to Skvortsova.

          for anyone who dumps specialized access to general access

          The head of the FMBA Veronika Skvortsova said at a press conference that preclinical studies of Meflohin showed that he completely suppresses the effect of coronavirus after 49 hours in a very small dose.

          According to Skvortsova, studies of Meflohin in humans show that by the end of the first week, 70% do not have coronavirus.

          However, she warned that this is preliminary data.

          it is this kind of harm no less than the virus itself, this information is exclusively for official use and not for our person who, unlike the western layman, breaks into a pharmacy and begins to be treated himself by what he heard
          1. +4
            23 May 2020 11: 01
            The message you are talking about was made by Skvortsova on May 16. But doctors around the world began to use hydroxychloroquine against coronavirus much earlier - people just in desperation were looking for at least something at hand that would stop the infection. And it turned out that in the groups that were given this anti-malarial medicine, mortality increased compared to conventional groups due to the negative effect of the drug on the cardiovascular system.
            Control groups from 671 hospitals:
            14 888 patients received hydroxychloroquine, mortality from 16% to 23,8%.
            81 144 - did not receive. Mortality is 9,3%.
            Skvortsova was obliged to monitor the progress of these studies. I didn’t. But she hastened to give a recommendation.
            Unfortunately, I don’t remember exactly where, whether in Bashkiria or in Udmurtia, due to the use of an antimalarial drug, mortality from coronavirus increased sharply, and doctors directly blamed Skvortsova for this. It was on Zen. Or maybe somewhere else. I was not particularly interested, otherwise I would save the file. But excuse me, I’m not accustomed to lie.
            1. +1
              23 May 2020 11: 08
              once again where, by whom and when was it suggested to "drink blood thinners" ?!
              about the drain into the public domain of internal considerations of doctors, I already unsubscribed
            2. +3
              23 May 2020 11: 23
              Quote: depressant
              Skvortsova made May 16.

              do not listen to this lady! Lying always and in everything
              1. +1
                23 May 2020 11: 55
                Quote: Silvestr
                do not listen to this lady! Lying always and in everything

                No need to be categorical.
                Scientists said that the highest mortality among all those infected with coronavirus was recorded precisely among those taking the antimalarial drug - it amounted to 27,8%. 22,1% of patients who died during treatment took hydroxychloroquine along with the antibiotic azithromycin. Moreover, in patients who did not receive this medicine at all, the mortality rate was only 11,4%.
                Experts have suggested that hydroxychloroquine can damage the internal organs of infected people, which ultimately leads to death.
                This information has been confirmed in many countries.
                1. +7
                  23 May 2020 13: 20
                  Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                  No need to be categorical.

                  In this case, it is possible and necessary, especially after her statement about the possibility of "hanging" 4 patients on one ventilator.
                  Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                  received this medicine, mortality was only 11,4%.

                  What say that mechanical ventilation leads to unjustified mortality in 60-70% of patients?
                  1. 0
                    23 May 2020 13: 43
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    especially after her statement about the possibility of "hanging" 4 patients on one ventilator.

                    Well this is another song when there was not enough mechanical ventilation looking for all possible ways, just like medicines.
                    We were immediately told that these drugs have very serious consequences and they must be used very carefully.
                    Well, I saw about four-to-one in the news I did not quite understand. it seemed the easiest way, and with us all the special services were looking for ways to buy and rebuilt the production under the release of mechanical ventilation.
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        2. 0
          23 May 2020 10: 24
          I really want to hear who offered to drink blood thinners
          1. 0
            28 May 2020 07: 21
            "Drink" did not hear. Myasnikov talked about positive heparin injections, in my opinion, in the abdomen, but only in the hospital and only in severe cases.
  11. -6
    23 May 2020 06: 13
    The best thing I've read on this topic. Thank.
    1. +2
      23 May 2020 08: 02
      And you read more and not here. And better yet, listen to lectures.
      1. 0
        24 May 2020 09: 06
        What are you doing here? And I also read books. When there is time.
  12. +5
    23 May 2020 06: 15
    Reptilians launched a preliminary training for their global scenario ...
  13. +4
    23 May 2020 06: 16
    It is time to introduce criminal punishment for denying the existence of the danger of a coronovirus. The authorities tried so hard, they fought not sparing their stomach, introduced a pre-trial detention center regime. And here, homegrown experts question their heroism.
    1. +15
      23 May 2020 06: 45
      We "remembered" about the fleet - when the Kursk sank. Now, about the doctors, they remembered when the virus appeared.
      1. +1
        23 May 2020 07: 13
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        We "remembered" about the fleet - when the Kursk sank. Now, about the doctors, they remembered when the virus appeared.

        This is the logic of war and survival.
      2. +9
        23 May 2020 11: 10
        Now, doctors remembered when the virus appeared.

        These doctors and hospitals have never been forgotten since 91. They were tormented by the "shameful" fact that the USSR set up hospitals and trained a lot of good doctors. And they did everything to make all this not enough.
        1. +2
          23 May 2020 11: 16
          Quote: NordUral
          These doctors and hospitals have never been forgotten since 91. They were tormented by the "shameful" fact that the USSR set up hospitals and trained a lot of good doctors. And they did everything to make all this not enough.

          At first, the Army and Navy were destroyed, then education, well, they started to work for doctors .. The education and medicine system has been forming for decades, even if everything was not rich, but the country proved its effectiveness! Now medicine and education, only in Moscow, and even then below the plinth .. hi
          Now we are collecting stones, however late it would be ..!
          1. 0
            23 May 2020 11: 20
            Vitaliy! So that it’s too late, you need to sweep these from the country. In all elections and all the people, so as not to bring the country to revolution. Although it will be a way out when there is no other left. So it was in 1917, when the question was also asked whether Russia will be. It is possible that history is returning to a similar round of its unhurried movement, no one knows where.
            1. +3
              23 May 2020 12: 20
              Quote: NordUral
              Vitaliy! So that it’s too late, you need to sweep these out of the country. In all elections and all the people, so as not to bring the country to revolution.

              Eh, Eugene, they too deeply sucked into the body of Russia together with myoic corporations! And you can’t do without a scalpel .. negative
              Quote: NordUral
              So it was in 1917, when the question was also asked whether Russia will be. It is possible that history is returning to a similar round of its unhurried movement, no one knows where.

              Also sometimes I think about the spiral of history, everything repeats and returns ..
              Russia is a specific country and it is difficult to calculate it. It is not in vain that "our" new-born bourgeoisie shake like that and live one day .. Soon we will knock them on palaces and offices with butts!
              I hope we get by with a little blood! They got it already ..
              Good luck to you and the Northern Urals from Southern Eugene!
              Such things are in URALA tank divisions!
              It will begin now)))
              1. +2
                23 May 2020 12: 23
                Good luck, intelligence and determination to all of us!
  14. +7
    23 May 2020 06: 19
    I agree. Very reminded Delyagin, only less emotions.
    It is necessary to send patients to quarantine, and not all in a row, is it really all that was forgotten right away?
    Well, why, it is possible and the regions, as in China. So as not to be pulled around the country. And in the region everyone was ill and that’s all. Quarantine is a complete isolation. And self-isolation is a colander. All the same, we’ll be ill, only the peak of the sick will not be achieved in a month, but in six months.
  15. +8
    23 May 2020 06: 20
    But the author didn’t begin to ask questions at once,
    However, today he not only asks questions, but also tries to give answers to them, not from the point of view of a specialist epidemiologist, but from the standpoint of common sense

    Yes Yes. This is first, and then, as a real virologist and therapist, he begins to monotonously try to put into our brain that this is not a "particularly dangerous, but just a dangerous disease" almost "sneeze out of the blue." Well, the last chapter in general -: a teardrop, officials, pension reform, Easter, horses, people, flies, cutlets ... !! And where to put a hundred thousand zhmurov in YUSA alone?
    1. 0
      23 May 2020 07: 16
      Quote: LIONnvrsk
      And where are one hundred thousand blind men in USA alone?

      This is for the liberals. Mourn.
    2. -8
      23 May 2020 08: 00
      And 100 thousand blind people will be silent because it does not fit into the theory that Putin is to blame, he invented the coronovirus, as they already wrote here, to hide his joint with oil.
  16. +11
    23 May 2020 06: 24
    as for young people under forty

    Everyone heard! I am 39 and I am a young man!
    1. +14
      23 May 2020 06: 52
      Quote: Talgarets
      as for young people under forty

      Everyone heard! I am 39 and I am a young man!


      From a height of 52 ... yes!
      1. +12
        23 May 2020 07: 36
        Quote: sergo1914
        Quote: Talgarets
        as for young people under forty

        Everyone heard! I am 39 and I am a young man!


        From a height of 52 ... yes!

        Children....
        1. +1
          23 May 2020 22: 29
          For me - grandchildren, what kind of children are there. A happy age of ignorance, awareness comes much later, if at all, visits us.
      2. +2
        23 May 2020 11: 20
        Quote: sergo1914
        Quote: Talgarets
        as for young people under forty

        Everyone heard! I am 39 and I am a young man!


        From a height of 52 ... yes!

        And I’m also in the 50s. Oh ho ho. There is something to remember and compare, and if necessary, I can hold the machine gun in my hands and shoot accurately .. If I get angry! soldier
        1. +1
          23 May 2020 12: 35
          Quote: BUCHARA
          Quote: sergo1914
          Quote: Talgarets
          as for young people under forty

          Everyone heard! I am 39 and I am a young man!


          From a height of 52 ... yes!

          And I’m also in the 50s. Oh ho ho. There is something to remember and compare, and if necessary, I can hold the machine gun in my hands and shoot accurately .. If I get angry! soldier


          I wonder who is minus and for what? Or such a reputation?
          1. +3
            23 May 2020 22: 31
            And the components, there are many of them divorced today. Well, those who are on salary or piecework by cons.
            1. +1
              23 May 2020 23: 10
              Quote: NordUral
              And the components, there are many of them divorced today. Well, those who are on salary or piecework by cons.


              He suggested somehow personalizing the cons. I did not find understanding. To be afraid. Why?
              1. +4
                24 May 2020 07: 31
                Quote: sergo1914
                He suggested somehow personalizing the cons. I did not find understanding. To be afraid. Why?

                The minusers themselves are afraid of shame, they are afraid, ashamed of them. Yes

                Recently it became clear that four elderly men, once every two or three days, regularly agreed and at the same time began to violently minus all my comments in a row over these days. And again and again in 2-3 days .....lol

                I somehow thought that some random lonely juvenile idiot with 4 nicknames was having fun, but it turned out .... belay lol laughing
                1. +1
                  24 May 2020 09: 48
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  Quote: sergo1914
                  He suggested somehow personalizing the cons. I did not find understanding. To be afraid. Why?

                  The minusers themselves are afraid of shame, they are afraid, ashamed of them. Yes

                  Recently it became clear that four elderly men, once every two or three days, regularly agreed and at the same time began to violently minus all my comments in a row over these days. And again and again in 2-3 days .....lol

                  I somehow thought that some random lonely juvenile idiot with 4 nicknames was having fun, but it turned out .... belay lol laughing


                  Elusive Avengers? Ksanka and Gypsy who? However, I guess. (I could not resist. Himself for the Reds and some of your comments, to put it mildly, I do not support.)
                  1. +2
                    24 May 2020 12: 28
                    Quote: sergo1914
                    Elusive Avengers? Ksanka and Gypsy who? However, I guess

                    I always knew one, one was a complete surprise, I don’t know two request
                    Quote: sergo1914
                    Sam for the Reds and some of your comments, to put it mildly, don't support.)

                    this is normal. We are all different.

                    Abnormal when four adult (!) man, collusion, furiously poke, without reading, the "minus" key. Can you imagine this picture? lol They also have grandchildren, come on ...

                    It got to the point of ridiculousness: under congratulations for the holidays, in three days ... four minuses. A snapshot of the most beautiful old building (no comment) "-4", a snapshot of the Victory Arch-4 anti-Nazi -4, etc.

                    I have already Phil (Sergey) and others asked, what is happening, out of the blue?

                    I thought that the unreasonable child was amusing himself, but, you go .... request

                    PS for the stars on the shoulder straps I do not chase, I have my own, real, have ....

                    PS from me, plus
                    1. 0
                      31 May 2020 00: 07
                      Quote: Olgovich
                      Quote: sergo1914
                      Elusive Avengers? Ksanka and Gypsy who? However, I guess

                      I always knew one, one was a complete surprise, I don’t know two request
                      Quote: sergo1914
                      Sam for the Reds and some of your comments, to put it mildly, don't support.)

                      this is normal. We are all different.

                      Abnormal when four adult (!) man, collusion, furiously poke, without reading, the "minus" key. Can you imagine this picture? lol They also have grandchildren, come on ...

                      It got to the point of ridiculousness: under congratulations for the holidays, in three days ... four minuses. A snapshot of the most beautiful old building (no comment) "-4", a snapshot of the Victory Arch-4 anti-Nazi -4, etc.

                      I have already Phil (Sergey) and others asked, what is happening, out of the blue?

                      I thought that the unreasonable child was amusing himself, but, you go .... request

                      PS for the stars on the shoulder straps I do not chase, I have my own, real, have ....

                      PS from me, plus



                      Gosha. Along the way, I am also in this club. For the evening, all comments have four minuses. Even Chubais suffered.
              2. -1
                24 May 2020 20: 44
                I agree, I would support personalization and "+" and "-".
              3. +1
                24 May 2020 21: 40
                I also think it's time to edit the chat rules. How to initiate this? There is a lot of garbage, smart thoughts drown in it. Suggest, if you have already applied, not personification, but stupidly restrictions on the number / day / week / month. Especially for comments. Less is more. The administration has statistics on the "average user". I understand that pieceworkers will not like it, but I got tired of looking for sound reasoning in a heap of rubbish. Good luck.
    2. +4
      23 May 2020 07: 18
      Quote: Talgarets
      Everyone heard! I am 39 and I am a young man!

      Bring the main thing to the wife. feel
      1. +2
        23 May 2020 08: 42
        Bring the main thing to the wife.

        And demonstrate wink
      2. 0
        25 May 2020 00: 06
        One peppy grandfather was asked how he feels at 92 ...
        "I FALL just as deep, but not so many visits."
  17. +16
    23 May 2020 06: 24
    I do not want to touch the disease itself. You must admit that our unhappy economy has been breathing its last breath for a very long time. Until recently, there was an excuse - SANCTIONS! Now, the other's relay race is PANDEMIA!
  18. +13
    23 May 2020 06: 24
    It turns out that the governments of all countries, with a wave of a magic wand, went crazy at once and declared quarantine? There are still not everywhere fools and alarmists are sitting. My niece’s spouse is 25 years old, a half-policeman numbed his arm, a coronovirus was determined, he needs to be told that all this is nonsense and fake will smack
  19. -8
    23 May 2020 06: 32
    Quote: Comrade
    a media show that someone started for a specific purpose

    I think this is a business project. We started production (helped from the budget), now we need to make a profit. They will forget about budget financing, there are business owners.
    Also, to increase the role of local authorities. Many did not even remember their governor, mayor. And the police didn’t speak well. Now look at the governors-deputies of the president, a lot of opportunities. Mayors are on TV. The police are fines for the population, some are being fooled. For one month ! hi
  20. +17
    23 May 2020 06: 41
    In any case, for all of us this is a lesson. And for us, and for our government. I’m not a virologist, but even I understand that in the event of a similar disease with fatal consequences, it’s necessary not to chat with your feet while sitting on the Kremlin’s fence, but to urgently close borders, prohibit the sale of tickets to countries where the disease appeared, and so on. Didn’t they know that Moscow, with its construction projects, had become a passage yard and a peddler of all sorts of diseases throughout the country? No words, some kind of mess
    1. +6
      23 May 2020 11: 29
      Just imagine, I got to the hospital on March 12. There are four of us in the room. Two old women, me and a lady of 39 years old. The lady is going to go with her husband to the Emirates, asks for an urgent discharge, but the same tickets will be lost, and an extract is needed for some kind of medical report upon departure. A doctor would tell her - "Come to your senses! An epidemic of a terrible disease is spreading around the world, but in the Emirates there are a lot of Chinese." But no, she said "Yes, please!" And then, already at home since March 17, I suddenly read in Yandex: "Ours from the Emirates cannot fly away, quarantine." Well, they took them out much later. Apparently, along with the next portion of the infection. A striking general indifference.
      1. +4
        23 May 2020 14: 46
        But for such cases, if citizens do not have brains, then the government must have brains. They live on our taxes. With them, and demand.
    2. +3
      23 May 2020 12: 39
      This is a concrete lesson, but will they draw conclusions?
  21. 0
    23 May 2020 07: 08
    ... as well as those who really want to wear them for their own peace of mind during an epidemic or outbreak.
    I highly recommend watching Planet Ka-Pax and paying special attention to the evolution of the outlook of the handsome patient Ernie. smile
  22. VLR
    +15
    23 May 2020 07: 09
    I agree that the story with Covid is very "muddy". The disease clearly does not attract plague and smallpox, in terms of the spread to the level of the epidemic (5% of the population), as I understand it, it has not reached anywhere, asymptomatic in the vast majority of cases, low mortality. And - a unique feature, the virus is very careful about the most biologically valuable categories of the human population - children (who in a normal society are saved at any cost, sacrificing everything and everything, because they are the future of the country and nation) and young people. All sorts of rhinoviruses, enteroviruses, etc. knock down children with ease, this one ignores. Either such a "humanist", or just an "old toothless wolf" who can only catch up with the weak and sick. But! In France, under the horror stories about Covid, the seemingly unkillable movement of "yellow vests" was defeated. In the United States, Trump said that 20 million people would die in the country, which, of course, is stupid - but Trump knows what he is doing: he scared the narrow-minded ordinary people, and now he says - see, what an effective president I am? How many lives of Americans saved! Do you know now who to vote for? And, at the same time, on a blue eye, from China now requires 9 trn DLR. Putin covered his joint with oil Covid. But people in Sweden and Belarus live quietly, and for some reason do not die in huge numbers, hospitals are not overcrowded, corpses are not lying on the streets, crowds of zombies do not walk on the roads. By the fall, the population of euthy countries will develop collective immunity, and that's it - Covid will forever become a common acute respiratory infection for Swedes and Belarusians. And in other countries, if it continues in the same spirit, there will be sad prospects of continuous quarantines, which will either be removed or announced for, at best, 3-4 years. But, probably, more - because in these 3-4 years, those who have already been ill will have time to lose their immunity and begin to become infected again - a vicious circle (or spiral) will form.
    By the way, the situation in Sweden and Belarus annoys so many now. Because, the Swedes and Belarusians, refusing to get sick and die massively, substitute both WHO officials and leading politicians of the world, forcing us to think about their competence and integrity. And even in Russia, a lot of people are unhappy with Belarusians: remember how much bile and irritation there were in the comments about the Victory parades in this country, they gloated that now, after 2 weeks, everyone would be slander. 2 weeks passed - and nothing! The cognitive dissonance! Why is Kovid not dangerous in Belarus, but in Russia a deadly disease? We, on the genetic plane, differ little.
    1. +7
      23 May 2020 07: 46
      If we analyze it from the point of view of earning and the artificiality of the virus, then the prospect of earning is fantastic .. All over the world, all valuable offices are traded in shares (figuratively, they are shares of ownership) .. During a pandemic, some shares fell several times (on average 2 times). Mechanism (example) ..
      At the beginning of the pandemic, we have, let N-shares worth $ 100 billion. We sell them. We are waiting for a couple of months. We buy 2,3,4 - N shares, that is, 2,3,4 times more shares for the same money ..
      Results:
      1. You own several times more shares.
      2. We are waiting for the market recovery (1-2 years) without doing anything, we have $ 200-300-400 billion worth of shares.
      Depending on the numbers, the circuit is scaled. In a couple of years, such a cool way to increase the amount of your money (stocks) by several times without doing anything, it seems there has never been in history .. But for this you need to know about the virus in advance
    2. +5
      23 May 2020 08: 32
      Sweden is the only (except Belarus) country in Europe that did not introduce serious quarantine measures, simply offering citizens to be more careful.

      The country did not close shops, restaurants, shopping centers and other crowded places. It was never a question of restricting the movement of citizens and putting them at home.

      Last week, Sweden was ahead of many European countries in terms of the number of deaths from coronavirus per million population - 380. More only in the UK, France, Italy and Spain, countries seriously affected by the epidemic.

      By the way, in Turkmenistan there is no virus at all. hi
      1. +3
        23 May 2020 12: 35
        Quote: A. Privalov


        By the way, in Turkmenistan there is no virus at all. hi


        They can put for this word, and therefore there is no him lol In the DPRK, too, it seems not.
        1. +2
          23 May 2020 13: 40
          Quote: cniza
          They can be imprisoned for this word, and therefore it does not exist in the DPRK, too, it seems not.

          Well there is no way. If only they were happy.
          When I look at such a tablet and compare two countries with approximately the same population, doubts about the reliability of the statistics of Belarus, sorry, arise.


          Not so long ago, I helped my mother (may God extend her years!) To disassemble old documents. She's about 90, but her memory is fine.
          So, we came across the death certificate of her grandfather (my great-grandfather). I remember him already very old, sitting in an armchair and reading a newspaper. I was very surprised by the record of the cause of death in the certificate: "heart failure" ...
          I remembered exactly that he passed away in 1961. I was 6 years old and I was already getting ready for school. He had cancer. He underwent two operations, and died during the third. I even remember how my mother and I went to the hospital to receive this certificate. He was signed out by some fat aunt in a small room on the basement floor. There were legs walking outside the window. Mom explained. It turns out that she was also surprised at this diagnosis, but her aunt answered her something like this: "Woman, you understand, a man has died. Let us write that they will say that they have been treating cancer badly, have done a bad operation. No one will look that he was 84 years old, everyone would have to live like that! We don't need it, but you don't care. "
          Here the Ministry of Health with statistics plays cat and mouse.
          1. +2
            23 May 2020 14: 00
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Here the Ministry of Health with statistics plays cat and mouse.

            No, he does not play at all, he carries out the order.
            He does what he is told.

            1. +1
              23 May 2020 21: 29
              And our health ministry, whose order is fulfilling?
              1. 0
                23 May 2020 22: 02
                Quote: Fazil Sharipov
                And our health ministry, whose order is fulfilling?

                Ours, whose is this?
                1. 0
                  29 May 2020 23: 00
                  Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                  Quote: Fazil Sharipov
                  And our health ministry, whose order is fulfilling?

                  Ours, whose is this?

                  Not Israeli, of course.
    3. +7
      23 May 2020 09: 07
      I confirm what has been said. Everything is calm in Minsk without quarantine. It is useless to prove anything to fans of "pandemics", and it is not necessary. Better to stand aside and wait for the avalanche of idiocy to sweep by.
    4. +3
      23 May 2020 12: 34
      Quote: VlR
      And people in Sweden and Belarus live quietly, and for some reason do not die in huge numbers,

      In Sweden
      got sick 32160
      4870 recovered for several days no recovering
      DIED 3850
      Population about 10 mil
      Do you want to be in what statistics
      In Belarus
      got sick 34303
      recovered 12833
      DIED 119
      Population about 10 mil
      The continuation of the Belarusian shrimp, do you believe in them?
      1. +4
        23 May 2020 14: 17
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        The continuation of the Belarusian shrimp, do you believe in them?

        Of course we believe! And in Belarusian kiwi, papaya and octopus. You are here, it’s not here! Do not slander village workers. They are sweating there, and you are here, this. negative
    5. 0
      24 May 2020 17: 13
      Yes, everything is very simple, the clinics were not closed there, and people do not die from the consequences of this idiotic decision, but receive medical care on time for all diseases, but we have a completely different picture, and everyone is charged to the crown.
    6. 0
      25 May 2020 09: 41
      Quote: VlR
      Because, the Swedes and Belarusians, refusing to get sick massively and die massively
      4000 dead, isn't that mass? In Italy, 542 deaths per million inhabitants, in Sweden 396
  23. +10
    23 May 2020 07: 40
    In any case, huge money is laundered now. People hawala sad
    1. +2
      23 May 2020 11: 27
      Dear forum users. I can’t find the link (I watched on TV), but de jure, de facto. By the road Chibis in the Murmansk region receives reports from subordinates in masks without a mask. Insanity grows stronger.
    2. +4
      23 May 2020 12: 25
      Always on the mountain and problems, there were those who earned ...
      1. +1
        23 May 2020 12: 29
        Quote: cniza
        Always on the mountain and problems, there were those who earned ...

        So, this is starting with simple funeral services
        1. +6
          23 May 2020 12: 55
          This is an eternal business, but here the situation is "strike while the iron is hot" - masks, gloves, dressing gowns, antiseptics, etc. hi
          1. +3
            23 May 2020 13: 00
            Quote: cniza
            This is an eternal business, but here the situation is "strike while the iron is hot" - masks, gloves, dressing gowns, antiseptics, etc. hi

            Yes, Victor, plus - buckwheat and online lessons for children ...
            1. +5
              23 May 2020 13: 17
              Yes, there is a long and continuous speculation chain.
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  24. +3
    23 May 2020 07: 40
    SARS-CoV-2 is a new and poorly understood virus. But his family, his viral nature do not allow us to talk about his particular danger and terrible mortality.
    it is extremely interesting to know the author’s education and profession, these broad-profile tractor drivers have already tired
    author, do you have anything to do with microbiology or medicine ?!
    Primary control agents are the most common: paracetamol ...
    for the sake of truth, after this "brilliant" phrase, you can not read further
    1. +4
      23 May 2020 12: 22
      And also - "... fragrant soap and fluffy towel ...". Only those who could live, they are no longer there.
  25. +8
    23 May 2020 07: 42
    Good training in relation to the population: no more than three are going to gather, wearing masks, maintaining a distance, how the population will cope with price increases ... etc. The crowd control training was a success ...
  26. +10
    23 May 2020 07: 43
    No matter how hard they try to convince us that this virus is "natural" - I DO NOT BELIEVE! A very "successful" experiment turned out. And to find out who would launch this project? Those. let this virus go to the masses! I would ask him! But it’s too painful for many to have had their pluses from this misfortune!
    1. +5
      23 May 2020 12: 20
      Unfortunately, we may never know.
      1. -3
        23 May 2020 13: 12
        Quote: cniza
        Unfortunately, we may never know.

        Exactly! Victor .. Everyone beautifully invented and done!
  27. +5
    23 May 2020 07: 43
    Fear will go away. Anxiety will remain. Anxiety from uncertainty. But everything has been done “for us,” for our own good, so that we worry less.

    By no means.
    Fear intensifies and anxiety grows.
    For someone’s, well, not very good, plan is beginning to draw more and more contrast.
    1. +6
      23 May 2020 12: 19
      Quote: demo


      By no means.
      Fear intensifies and anxiety grows.
      For someone’s, well, not very good, plan is beginning to draw more and more contrast.


      Maybe this is someone's plan, but the virus is not at all comic. Take care of yourself.
  28. +7
    23 May 2020 07: 48
    Died of Coronavirus - John McDaniel of Columbus, Ohio. It was the main "common man" of the United States and denier of the pandemic. He called the pandemic a "political trick" and the quarantine regime "nonsense."

    "Are there really no people with eggs who can directly say: this COVID-19 is a propaganda ploy? Ask your friends and prove that I am wrong," he wrote on his blog on March 13.

    Two days later, McDaniel called the governor's quarantine regime, which included the closure of bars and restaurants, "stupid."
    "He has no authority on this. If you are paranoid and so afraid of getting sick, then stay at home. But do not force others to sit locked up. This madness must be stopped!"

    McDaniel was 60.
    1. +6
      23 May 2020 09: 10
      Quote: A. Privalov
      This madness must be stopped! "

      Well, they stopped him ..... so as not to write too much. And what was the diagnosis? Who will say now? Maybe the guy drunk
      1. +6
        23 May 2020 11: 37
        Well, yes, as in a hackneyed anecdote: two bullets in the back of the head and seven stabs - coronavirus against the background of "others that complicated the course."
  29. 0
    23 May 2020 07: 52
    The start of mass hysteria was given from here: no, they say, we have no hospitals, no tests of our own, no drugs, no masks, no mechanical ventilation, no managers. Only billionaires-officials and billionaires-chief physicians

    And this site had a hand in this. Here every day such phrases fall.
    The author apparently came to tell about his faith.
    What's next? They promise a lot, a lot. But for now we have this: a collapsed economy, millions of unemployed, poverty and the collapsed health of the whole people. For what?

    Hey authors! Aw! Is there anyone at home? You buried the Russian economy long before the coronovirus. And your flock here buzzed all ears about it.
    You already decide on the timing of the death thereof.
    Fearing, we have already given too much to the authorities. We believed the authorities, for once again. And once again deceived. And with us it was not so much with freedom, but now it is completely ... Where is it?

    A sucker is not a mammoth, a sucker will not die out.
    Hey author, what freedom do you lack? You are already free from everything. Do you at least tell me and those around us what we lack of freedom?
  30. +18
    23 May 2020 08: 08
    Mindless copying of Western and Chinese treatment protocols, quarantine measures plus their own initiative, which in Russia is called “make a fool to pray to God ...” And all this was aimed not at work, but at controlling cash flows and citizens - a source of fines.
    There are three ways to fight the coronovirus:
    1. Chinese - hard quarantine, swell a lot of money;
    2. Swedish - do nothing;
    3. Russian - declare Chinese, implement Swedish, steal the difference.
    1. +4
      23 May 2020 11: 39
      Great said! Directly aphorism.
  31. +6
    23 May 2020 08: 24
    Mdaa, when it was a respected and quoted portal. I accidentally looked in, I slipped the article into Zen, I had to remember the username and password. In his surroundings, he noticed that there is a certain educational qualification, believers and unbelievers. Just to be noted, in 2012 he was ill, as doctors called atypical antibiotic-resistant pneumonia, 3 months in hospitals of different levels, my lungs did not fully recover. Take care of yourself and others.
  32. +14
    23 May 2020 08: 28
    The most dangerous complication from the coronavirus is the loss of trust of all segments of the population in power at all levels !!!! But, the current "power" just won't go anywhere, it will cling to its places, to its "exclusiveness", and God forbid that this power, to raise its rating, would take, for the umpteenth time, the American pattern, a small victorious war for the good of the whole world (!!!!! ????). It's time for Putin to think about retirement and not create a stir like "if not me, then who is it." And it’s time to change the system of public administration, it’s time for the state to aim at the welfare of citizens, and not indicators in world economic ratings, it’s time to stop playing in globalization, which in fact turned out to be beneficial only to the United States and China. Well, the coronavirus, as always, will end with awards: modestly the doctors who carried the main work will be rewarded "louder" by officials from around medicine and "loud" showmen)))) Alas, this is Russia. I have no faith that the current government will make the right conclusions and actions on the pandemic.
  33. +4
    23 May 2020 08: 29
    However, today he not only asks questions, but also tries to give answers to them, not from the point of view of a specialist epidemiologist, but from the standpoint of common sense, which many more have managed to not completely lose. The thing is that today, fortunately, there is enough information not only to intimidate the population and justify punitive measures, but also to preserve this common sense.

    And from the very first lines popped up this common sense:
    Firstly, there is no doubt that COVID-19 is not a particularly dangerous disease. But simply dangerous. The same as influenza, viral pneumonia or SARS / ARI.

    Let's use the remnants of "common sense" to ask questions: The Spanish woman, which a hundred years ago in a year and a half mowed 50 million people, was: a particularly dangerous disease, just a dangerous disease or, in general, a seasonal phenomenon superimposed on the situation in the world? And were antiseptics and
    disinfection?
  34. +3
    23 May 2020 08: 42
    Author - go lick the handrail of the subway car laughing

    The new coronavirus reduces the oxygen level in the blood to zero (due to the destruction of the lower lobes of the lungs) and clogs the blood vessels with blood clots (due to the destruction of the epithelium). The use of mechanical ventilation does not help, and blood thinners lead to internal bleeding.

    As a result, the mortality (the ratio of the dead to hospitalized) of the coronavirus is an order of magnitude higher than the flu and any other acute respiratory viral infection.

    And so yes: stupid Chinese, Americans, Europeans and Russians, without consulting the author, slowed down their economies (to the state of 25% of the unemployed in the United States) - like what.
    1. +2
      23 May 2020 12: 13
      The author clearly got excited, he will soon see and understand everything. On this I earn? - Yes, the authorities use for their own purposes? “Yes, but it's not a runny nose at all.”
      1. +1
        23 May 2020 15: 01
        If the Author does not take the coronovirus seriously, then the human body does not agree with this and a powerful immune response attacks any affected organ, perceiving it as a foreign hostile body. The kidneys, liver, lungs, heart ... If a person survives, then the disabled person to one degree or another - forever. This is coronavirus.
        By the way, an ambulance has just left my entrance. Ten minutes after a man ran out of the next apartment, shouting "Stupid, you don't understand anything!" The apartment has no connection to the external locking device. He ran out, opened the entrance to the doctor, and the "stupid" who did not believe in her misfortune was taken to the covidarium. How can I get out on the stairs now? Honestly, I'm afraid.
    2. -2
      24 May 2020 01: 11
      Author - go lick the handrail of the subway car


      Aha laughing , the author doesn’t seem to show a nose from the apartment, walks around the apartment in the OZK lol and for the rest he says that it’s just hysteria.
  35. +7
    23 May 2020 09: 14
    Quote: AK1972
    3. Russian - declare Chinese, implement Swedish, steal the difference.


    But this is the essence! hi ... Production, transport was stopped and reduced. And quarantine measures at the border and in the subjects of power were carried out symbolically. The real control was only "on camera" for the news. In March, even officials officially roamed about Asian countries "for experience". At airports, only questionnaires were used to fight the virus. Charters still fly. It was nonsense, not quarantine. In Spain, people were really happy that the quarantine regime was relaxed. And in Russia, outside of city centers, little has changed before and after the "anti-virus measures."

    "Is there life after quarantine?" - you have to ask the doctors. Students of 4-6 courses have already been thrown into the fight. The rest - "on the embrasure" / escaped / on isolation / in the martyrology.

    ps In Crimea, but a non-resort settlement, quietly and "suddenly" all the yards turned out to be clogged with unfamiliar cars from other regions, especially 777. Of course, there is no need for a virus.
  36. +1
    23 May 2020 09: 16
    Everyone probably knows the old army joke about the ensign, the loading of "luminium" and cast iron:
    So, "who is very literate, will go to load cast iron?"
  37. +7
    23 May 2020 09: 22
    Quote: Operator
    As a result, the mortality (the ratio of the dead to hospitalized) of the coronavirus is an order of magnitude higher than the flu and any other acute respiratory viral infection.

    It does not exceed, but is determined by the level of development of mass medicine and other factors. In Belarus, with 35 thousand identified only 180 lethal. Despite the fact that in the republic 15 thousand die every month from tuberculosis, hepatitis, oncology, cardiovascular diseases and other gonorrhea. Against the background of the general pattern of acute respiratory viral infections, a vanishingly small value. In the Russian Federation and around the world it is similar.
    1. +3
      23 May 2020 09: 29
      and I would not include deceased pensioners in the statistics
    2. +3
      23 May 2020 11: 50
      Dear, and you do not know the unwritten order not to record cases of illness and death from the virus? Remember the swine flu of 2009-2010, when at least 100 people were lying in areas. with St. flu in each hospital, died in the Minsk region. no less than 10 people a day, and according to statistics, a little more than 100 people have died in the whole country throughout the whole country in Belarus. And I’m a resuscitator, I traveled a lot in sanitation then. So, do not write nonsense. And now, for example, we will not speak for the whole country, in the Oncology Research Institute there are only more than 150 people who have been ill (note, a non-core institution). And it's not about patients
  38. +6
    23 May 2020 09: 31
    The author is probably very distant from virology.
    What we have: we have a nasty virus, because hospitals are clogged with really sick people. It is a fact. The mechanism of selectivity of action on the body is unknown, it is a fact.
    The actions of the Power, in our country, are often chaotic: the mobilization of all medicine, by creating new beds (previously optimized), an attempt to stimulate medical workers (a scandal with a surcharge), the introduction of the SELF-ISOLATION regime, in case of tens / hundreds of cases of infection, and its gradual cancellation, with thousands ... Cool business with masks / gloves "at affordable prices"
    Support: business support criteria, as defined, but even some members of Ed. swearing from business)))
    Ordinary citizens themselves were isolated, but, on an electrical tape, again, far from everyone, as if not citizens, at all ..
    And yes: the banks mow, the lease was not canceled ..
  39. +10
    23 May 2020 09: 53
    Anyone wondered how many people died from simple flu last year, the year before last, and so on? Take an interest, you will be surprised. Yes, covid is more aggressive, but people suddenly "stopped" dying from ulcers of heart attacks and other diseases. Statistics only from covid.
    Further criticism of the author, because he is not an infectious disease specialist-virologist. But the disease was painfully kind of economic. We still didn’t leave the regime of self-conclusion, but they began to frighten us with the second wave. Very much a profitable virus. They said it right here, someone made money on sanctions, now they make money on the virus. Plus, under the guise of fighting the epidemic, an opportunity appeared to control everyone.
    And here is an unexpected conclusion. No matter how criticized the party officials of the times of the USSR, medicine was free and the authorities still cared about the people. Now just insolent business is nothing personal.
    1. 0
      23 May 2020 10: 21
      Quote: Gardamir
      Anyone wondered how many people died from simple flu last year, the year before last, and so on? Take an interest, you will be surprised. Yes, covid is more aggressive, but people suddenly "stopped" dying from ulcers of heart attacks and other diseases. Statistics only from covid.

      In December and January we had an outbreak of pneumonia in the Urals, hospitals were closed in February, schools were closed for a week .. As usual at this time, there was no mortality (children were ill, no particular complications).
      .And then the hysteria in the media began! Look for someone profitable ..
  40. -4
    23 May 2020 09: 56
    The whole world is such fools, one author knows everything .... well, well
  41. +2
    23 May 2020 10: 00
    Uh ... What is right, but where is the specificity, the specificity?

    And in something wrong. Well, there is no mortality from the plague, and thank God. On the website of the Russian Federation - 300 thousand infected, 3 thousand died. 1%. (without delving into the correctness of the tests)
    Isn't that enough?

    And in the beginning, while there is no clarity - what, how, whom, - have gone awry and reinsured ....
    Yes, and the oligarchic world, and the state - In the Far East immediately quarantine, and at Moscow airports, no, no.
    The elite flies home from below, children from the USA, bureaucrats from Italy (moreover, it was not covered in the press, unlike Taiwan for the common people ....). The panic subsided a little - go to work, the money does not smell ...

    About antibiotics, etc. They are needed. So that no other rubbish would climb during complications. They are prescribed even after simple dental treatment sometimes ...
    Masks are the same. Viruses do not care, but they are often in saliva and dust, and at least a mask ....
    So here is the author of that, of this ....

    And by the way, - a special project, a special project, and for the constitution of the official immortal power - the majority will vote ...
  42. +9
    23 May 2020 10: 12
    Quote: Max1995
    And in something wrong. Well, there is no mortality from the plague, and thank God. On the website of the Russian Federation - 300 thousand infected, 3 thousand died. 1%. (without delving into the correctness of the tests)
    Isn't that enough?

    Not just a little, but scanty. About 200 thousand people die in Russia in a month, including infections, and no one is interested in the context of mass psychosis, quarantine and voluntary economic destruction.
    1. +8
      23 May 2020 11: 39
      More than ever, he was far from medicine ... Google what the 1% mortality rate for various diseases is. That's not a lot!!! This is not even an epidemic, strictly speaking! This is hysteria out of the blue
      1. 0
        24 May 2020 01: 43
        This is not even an epidemic

        One more. And what about the definition of nandemia, there are some references to the size of mortality. You would first study the thesaurus.
      2. +1
        25 May 2020 00: 50
        Which is very sad, 15% of this number of deaths are medical workers. It would seem that they should then carefully monitor the symptoms and, at the first sign, start some kind of treatment ... 1% is ours, the world has clearly different numbers, we don’t know what to expect from this virus. From flu, mortality is just over 0,1%.
  43. -3
    23 May 2020 10: 30
    I go without a mask from the principle .. And I am afraid of those who are wearing masks and gloves, these are already potential shots for infection, their fear inside the body and head!
    1. -1
      24 May 2020 22: 04
      Fear + slave reflex is developed. They are afraid of them, for those who believe in masked gloves ruin the lungs and earn eczema. And if still, the houses sit out, then in the fall these walking infections will come from immunity killed by their fears.
    2. 0
      29 May 2020 23: 11
      Quote: BUCHARA
      I go without a mask from the principle .. And I am afraid of those who are wearing masks and gloves, these are already potential shots for infection, their fear inside the body and head!

      I live and work in Moscow, here they obligated us to wear masks and gloves. For fun I shaved the Iroquois and walk in a black bandana instead of these muzzles. And no one says a word, and a year ago he would have set off the very first patrol ...
  44. +1
    23 May 2020 10: 36
    Quote: BUCHARA
    I go without a mask from the principle .. And I am afraid of those who are wearing masks and gloves, these are already potential shots for infection, their fear inside the body and head!

    Even not so much for the infection of SARS as for the exacerbation and acquisition of other diseases, which are basically psychosomatic in nature. And diseases of such tens of percent of the total number of clinical cases, including in relation to mortality statistics.
  45. +6
    23 May 2020 10: 37
    Yeah .... For some reason, I agree with the author. On the one hand, I don’t want to believe what was said, but on the other, I have the same thoughts in my head for a long time, a whole world hysteria was inflated from this coronovirus, drove the population home, nullified the incomes of the whole industry, and gave others fabulous profits. Plus they taught the people to tolerate the decrees of the authorities and pay fines for nothing, and moreover, they strengthened the law enforcement forces precisely in police-punitive functions. The experiment on taming the population before trying to protest because of the derailed global economy came out with a bang, one hundred percent successful. No yellow vests in France, no striking farmers in Poland, no protesters in Hong Kong, no bulk-hadarkovites on Bolotnaya. Life is quiet. Everyone is passionate about blogs on quarantine at home in training and cooking.
  46. +3
    23 May 2020 10: 53
    From the very beginning of hysteria, I thought that this was a profanity, the purpose of which was to run around the methods of managing the population, and cover up the beginning of the introduction of global control.
    The worst thing is that there is something really dangerous ahead of us.
  47. kig
    +4
    23 May 2020 11: 11
    A few questions to the author.
    Testing for SARS-CoV-2 is carried out with gross violations of all the principles and postulates of determining viral diseases
    - where is the mistake? How right?
    Antibody testing is also pointless.
    - Why?
    Gloves, antiseptics, disinfection are not needed. Even the WHO does not deny it
    - why do you think so? The WHO page has instructions on when to wear a mask.
    World pandemic declared after outbreak in China is not
    - why? After all, millions of people around the world have become infected.
    The statistics that we are treated every day are manipulative and unscientific
    - why do you think so? Can you prove it?

    In general, questions to you, dear Author, arise after reading almost every line.
    1. -4
      24 May 2020 01: 41
      In general, questions to you, dear Author, arise after reading almost every line.

      He cannot answer them. He does not understand ANYTHING in this.
      1. kig
        0
        24 May 2020 05: 00
        Yeah. There are much more conspirologists than virologists.
    2. -1
      24 May 2020 10: 16
      I went to the WHO website and what? Recommendations to wear a mask only when caring for the patient and wash your hands with soap ....
      Everything is correct, the author points out, no gloves, no disinfection ...
      1. kig
        +1
        24 May 2020 12: 15
        The author considers
        Gloves, antiseptics, disinfection - not needed
        - categorically. And WHO believes that in some cases they are necessary. Different things, agree?
  48. -1
    23 May 2020 11: 19
    Here's what to do with those who believe in coronovirus.
    An employee of the Kirov polyclinic was fired after complaining in social networks about a salary of 12 rubles. and refusal of allowance
    Open Media reports https://openmedia.io/news/n3/sotrudnicu-kirovskoj-polikliniki-uvolili-posle-zhaloby-v-socsetyax-o-zarplate-v-12-000-rub-i-otkaze-ot -nadbavki /
  49. +2
    23 May 2020 11: 31
    All limbs for. The resuscitator himself is tired of explaining that they have been sick with the crown for thousands of years, they are and will be sick. Boiling out of the blue. But in fact, everything is simple - in all (!) Countries, a very decent loot is being used up for it. And note that in the states the intensity of anti-Russian attacks has decreased. Their elites did not fight like a child. The reason is denyuzhki. All of them are bad. To unite the people, an enemy is needed: preferably an external one. And then the Chinese with the crown appear. Bingo! Have flooded trillions of $, enough for everyone (of course, in the states), and they forgot about the Russians.
  50. +5
    23 May 2020 12: 10
    Everything is very ambiguous and not so simple, the analysis of all this will happen later, when the passions depart, but for now it’s too early ...
  51. +6
    23 May 2020 12: 18
    Thought about it. Is this all true or false...
    And I remembered an interesting story here tongue
    “In the mathematical world, this is the accepted way: a theorem is considered proven until someone finds an error in the proof presented.
    This happened, for example, with Andrew Wiles, who in 1994 announced the proof of Fermat’s Last Theorem, but other mathematicians soon found an error in his calculations, and he had to urgently refine his work. He provided updated proof and cemented his name as the man who had finally solved a mystery that had puzzled the world's best minds for 350 years. However, for a short period of time from the discovery of the error to the publication of the updated article, Fermat’s theorem again became formally unproven.
    In this context, the case of the Italian mathematician Giuseppe Peano, who during his lifetime was more than once suspected of having connections with the Sicilian mafia, is noteworthy. Not without mathematical talent, in his youth Peano used his ingenuity for criminal purposes - according to rumors, he was an accountant for the Gambino clan and personally developed a cunning scheme for laundering mafia funds. By the age of forty, he was bored with gray schemes, and he switched to... proving theorems. Moreover, he began, without wasting time on trifles, with one of the so-called Millennium Problems - the Goldbach problem.
    For the scientific community, far from the world of the mafia, the name of an unknown mathematician from Italy, who unexpectedly announced the solution to Goldbach’s problem, sounded like thunder. Giuseppe Peano presented to the public a 120-page work proving that any even number greater than two can be represented as the sum of two prime numbers. Despite the simplicity of the formulation, Goldbach's assumption remained unproven for two hundred years, so the scientific community turned to Peano's work with great interest.
    He himself knew that until one of the mathematicians pointed out the error in the proof, he would be considered to have proven Goldbach's problem. And this happened quite quickly - a certain Peruvian mathematician pointed out a logical transition on page 20, which, despite the indicated triviality, is not such, and requires additional proof. Imagine the surprise of the scientific community when a Peruvian mathematician was shot in a drive-by shooting while he was drinking his morning coffee. On the same day, Peano promptly provided an updated work, in which the problem area was described in more detail.
    A week later, a prominent mathematician from Japan pointed out a dubious place on page 42 of Peano's proof... and died from an unknown bullet literally that same week. A Soviet scientist found an error on page 50 of the work, and he was found poisoned in his research institute. Peano promptly corrected both errors.
    When news of the suspicious deaths reached respected mathematical journals, scientists were seriously frightened. It became obvious to everyone that Giuseppe Peano, taking advantage of his status in the Sicilian cartel, was sending killers after anyone who pointed out errors in his evidence. There were no new people wanting to find an error in Peano's proof. Formally, Peano remained the author of the proof of the truth of Goldbach's problem, painstakingly patching up the holes indicated by mathematicians.
    Then the editors of the oldest and most respected publications on mathematics gathered for a secret meeting and decided to do the following: they published a large list of errors in Peano’s proof and signed it with an even larger list of everyone who dared to stand in Peano’s way to the undeserved laurels of a great mathematician. The entire mathematical world froze in anticipation. Peano remained silent for two years. Goldbach's problem has returned to unproven status.
    And then, at one fine moment, those who signed up for the list of errors began to die. And with a mocking detail - exactly in the order in which the mathematicians were listed. Scientists were found poisoned, they were shot, blown up, hit by cars, pianos dropped on them... Interpol was inactive, chasing bigger fish - Peano's bosses. They didn’t care about mathematicians - it was just a percentage of those whom the Italian mafia killed among the judges and witnesses of the trials of the mafiosi.
    Panic began among the surviving part of the list; scientists began to demand that the editors publish a refusal to indicate the error. Peano provided new evidence, and the list of those who pointed out the error was entirely divided into those who renounced their words and those who could not do this because they were already dead. Peano triumphed; Goldbach's problem remained with him. He also received a $1 million Clay Institute cash prize.
    And in the United States in the 1970s, a series of high-profile trials took place against the heads of Cosa Nostra, after which the influence of the mafia greatly weakened. Giuseppe Peano is hiding somewhere in Italy, but the mathematical community is in no hurry to declare Goldbach's problem unsolved. And not in vain - just before his death from a policeman’s bullet, Giuseppe Peano creates his own foundation, similar to Nobel’s, and promises a million dollars to everyone who kills anyone who finds an error in his evidence. The fund is still run by a group of unknown mafiosi, and over the past 40 years it has issued prizes for the murders of mathematicians three times, and also raised the prize amount from one to five million dollars
    As of December 2016, Goldbach's problem is formally considered to have been proven by mathematician Giuseppe Peano. There are no people willing to challenge his status."
    Ps. Until now, no one knows whether it’s fake or not... It’s the same with Covid.
    1. +6
      23 May 2020 15: 40
      Colleague, I scared you)) It’s good that now I’m working on proving Catalan’s theorem within the framework of my own Theory of Basic Flows. But we will have to see what Goldbach has there. I also have prime numbers floating around everywhere. Hmmm... Thanks for the warning! ((((
      1. +5
        23 May 2020 16: 23
        Damn, I'm still confused... I don't care about the mafia, a square matrix with infinite sides immediately appeared, the columns and rows are simple, this is the first set, then the second matrix... in general, I'll think at night. Here it is on my head ((
  52. +2
    23 May 2020 12: 36
    The situation with coronavirus raises serious suspicions that they are not telling us something. How is it that some carriers get sick, others are asymptomatic. There are also rumors and animals are susceptible to the disease. What kind of infection this is is not clear. Isn’t it bacteria that just hover in the air? Videos from China show how actively disinfection of streets and road surfaces was carried out. But we probably don’t have enough money for such large-scale events, as always. The Chinese knew what they were doing to stop the spread of this infection.
  53. +5
    23 May 2020 12: 42
    Quote: Silvestr
    want to say that 255 deaths in 2 months of medical shows? No words, only a cynic and an ignoramus can mock the dead so

    this is an indicator of the level of their professionalism, nothing more than
  54. +1
    23 May 2020 12: 43
    Quote: Thunderbringer
    Moreover. Quarantine measures will still have to be lifted in the near future

    May 24 is Eid al-Fitr. Do you think it will be canceled by 24?
  55. +1
    23 May 2020 12: 55
    Quote: Olgovich
    Children...

    I completely agree with you, dear
  56. +2
    23 May 2020 13: 00
    Quote: A. Privalov
    By the way, in Turkmenistan there is no virus at all.

    no wonder, President of Turkmenistan Gurbanguly Myalikgulyevich Berdimuhamedov banned it
  57. +1
    23 May 2020 13: 15
    Quote: Evgeniy-111
    Very emotional, but not the case.

    Emotionally, yes.
    But think about it too. How much is this from Russia's GDP? 5-10 percent per year. If you invest it wisely. That's how much panic costs...
  58. +2
    23 May 2020 13: 30
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    Quote: Oleg133
    that this COULD be a pandemic

    WHO Director-General, said that the situation with the spread of COVID-19 can be described as a pandemic

    Can.
    But you may not even characterize it.
    That's what I was talking about. He didn’t write “this is a pandemic”, stamp, signature.
    This is called taking responsibility.
    And we know how to sharpen laces here too.
  59. +3
    23 May 2020 13: 47
    The author is forced to agree with you, however, I note that this is a fairly new virus, which has a high ability to spread and has not yet been properly studied the ability to mutate. If you believe it, he has already, in principle, adapted to three creatures - a man, a bat and an armadillo. Perhaps the risk is not in this Covid19 at all, but in limiting its spread and expansion if possible, because in this case, with each new carrier, the risk of the formation of a new strain increases, which will be more aggressive.
    I see a certain problem in this. Although I repeat once again - I agree that the measures taken against this virus do not correlate well with the statistics of mortality from it (relative to the number of infected) - both here and in China. The high mortality rate in a number of European countries does not correlate well with the picture that we observed in Moscow, for example, even before all this hysteria with QR codes and before the moment when doctors were put on the spot, figuratively speaking.
    Moreover, I see a bigger problem in the withdrawal of the state and ordinary people from all these measures. God only knows how many suicides and disorders, how many divorces and alcohol poisoning, how many exacerbations of chronic diseases, etc., came out of all this self-isolation hysteria. Perhaps the victims in Russia from Covid itself would seem like a child’s prank compared to the victims from the consequences.

    As for the measures and their unreasonable, sometimes chaotic rigidity and disproportionality - I suspect that all this is some kind of training for actions for some abstract emergency in principle. By this we can mean different things, let’s say an epidemic, let’s say some kind of near-military threats - but most of all I believe that all of this is working out measures to dispel civil unrest, so to speak, targeting and stopping them at the entrance-street-district level. Along with this, the state is studying a lot of different statistical information - what% of the city’s population is critical for the functioning of production, what repressive measures are most effective for which categories of the population, the performance of the system for tracking cameras and sending out fines, accustoming the population to “swallowing” arbitrariness in the sauce of “ necessary" and so on.
    Definitely all this has very little to do with Covid19 - the authorities are interested in power and control.
    1. +4
      23 May 2020 22: 41
      Well said, Knell.
      I believe that the central government also tested the local government. On the subject of loyalty. The picture that emerged was unpleasant.
  60. +3
    23 May 2020 14: 30
    Quote: Snail N9
    This is the main goal of the so-called "protective" measures, and no one will convince me otherwise ....

    You are right in a sense... The state, no matter where, believes that it is much more effective from its point of view to put you in a cage than to spend money on a well-thought-out economic strategy to combat epidemics. These are too expensive structural changes and they usually do not fit into the schemes life of the bureaucratic apparatus of power.. Moreover, this is force majeure.
    As a summary: “The mechanism is not interested in the problems of the cogs” (There was something about the sheriff)
    1. +5
      23 May 2020 15: 22
      It's not about epidemics. The fact is that there are people necessary for the state and its activities, and there are unnecessary ones, whose activities have long been closed in on themselves. These people produce a certain product to wear, eat, certain services to consume - and all this revolves in itself, the state, of course, has a percentage of this and taxes, but these funds are mostly spent on all this mouse fuss - for /p to state employees, social services, etc., etc. Only a small part of people are engaged in the production of something critical for the life of the state or something that can be sold over the hill.
      However, this whole mass, closed in on itself, often simply does not catch up with this differential - these thoughts are floating around about some kind of justice, about the fact that the subsoil is for the people, about some kind of rights, etc. In other words, this mass of people can become a problem for the system as a whole, a problem that cannot pay for its solution, so to speak. Hence all these control measures and toys with QR codes. In the event of some situation, this part of the population will be told “stay at home and don’t rock the boat” - otherwise there will be fines, imprisonment, etc.
      And the “necessary part” will ensure the functioning of the state as usual.
      In my opinion, this is what we are adapting to. Because no one in power believes in democracy for a long time - and people’s desires do not decrease. They looked at Ukraine, Libya and drew conclusions, so to speak, how to deal with discontent if something happens.
      1. +2
        23 May 2020 17: 20
        You can even write it shorter. This layer of the population will simply be turned off with one touch of the "ENTER" key
      2. -1
        25 May 2020 00: 55
        The coronavirus has shown that 1/3 of the population is enough for the state to function.
    2. +2
      23 May 2020 17: 23
      Vasya Lozhkin, great job! And no need for any P, S.
      1. +1
        23 May 2020 22: 50
        In general, neither we are for the state, nor the state is for us. Two non-overlapping countries that tolerate each other and only reluctantly interact on occasion.
  61. 0
    23 May 2020 16: 35
    “not from the point of view of an epidemiologist, but from the point of view of common sense” Where is the common sense here? Personal opinion of another couch potato? Like on the websites of flat-earthers - a complete worldwide conspiracy like we were deceived, the earth is flat, I can’t prove it, but I know for sure!
  62. +6
    23 May 2020 17: 16
    Once in the 90s, in the Rossiya restaurant, sitting at a table with one of the heads of economic intelligence, who drank like everyone else and at the same time did not get drunk and was setting his kidneys with “secret” pills, he suggested that I cut down the blue spruce trees on Red Square, if I will cry. Any desire is at your expense! Nothing has changed since then. On the contrary, it has become even more pragmatic. Masks and antiseptics are particular items that people with money have invested in. And as the old Jew trading next to the bank said: “We have an agreement! I don’t lend, and they don’t sell seeds.” Masks will be relevant until they recoup their money.
  63. -3
    23 May 2020 17: 25
    The author suggests not to do anything, and then whatever happens...
    And then he, with a smart look, will lecture that the government left everything to chance, but it should have been...
    1. -6
      24 May 2020 01: 40
      And then he, with a smart look, will teach

      I hope from the other world....
  64. +4
    23 May 2020 17: 27
    COVID-19 is death to me.
    I had bilateral pneumonia, with complications.
    For me, any cold/ARI develops into acute bronchitis.
    Me for 40.
    Is the author sure that for hundreds of thousands of people like me, COVID-19 is not dangerous?
    The question is rhetorical, but not for my children of 10 and 13 years old - my wife alone will not raise them...
    1. 0
      24 May 2020 01: 39
      I had bilateral pneumonia, with complications.

      Ed! I have 4 times. Let the author get sick only when we get vaccinated.
  65. +4
    23 May 2020 18: 10
    For me, a “pandemic” is garbage in a Lenten place compared to even the same deaths from alcoholism...
    1. -3
      24 May 2020 00: 55
      For me, a “pandemic” is garbage in a Lenten place compared to even the same deaths from alcoholism...
      Interesting comparison: pandemic and alcoholism?
      Is alcoholism an infection that a teetotaler can catch against his will?
      As for deaths from alcoholism (which people have been suffering from for years) compared to the pandemic, it’s not over yet.
  66. +1
    23 May 2020 18: 12
    An interesting article, I read it with pleasure. hi
    1. +2
      23 May 2020 18: 38
      "Most interesting" article. And how many things did you bring out into the world?........................
  67. +1
    23 May 2020 18: 45
    How did you screw it up?

    There is cycloferon - an inducer of human interferon.

    Has nonspecific viral resistance (that is, to all viruses without exception)

    When taken before infection, it reduces the likelihood of infection; in case of infection, it accelerates recovery and reduces negative symptoms.
  68. +1
    23 May 2020 19: 38
    There is a kind of “world war” going on for the redistribution of property and spheres of influence. Medium and small entrepreneurs and manufacturers will leave the market. Large corporations will occupy their niche. Most likely, this is what everything was started for. The Chinese have already quietly privatized many foreign companies, first collapsing the market with the coronavirus, and then bought up the depreciated shares of these companies. We will see the results of this madness very soon. As it turns out, there is only one adequate leader in the world. You can also mention the Swedes. The British at first took the right path, but as soon as shaggy-haired Boris became snotty, they too plunged into madness.
  69. +2
    23 May 2020 19: 44
    Covid Witness Sect? Is the author an instigator or simply uneducated? Follow the article.
    My wife buried more than 40 people in three weeks. This is only in one department. There were also 40-year-old men there. As I understand it, the author already falls into this category... It's time to think about it.
    Now the wave will subside, but will most likely return in the fall - the virus has entered the population.
    For others:
    1) according to WHO data, 4% of infections are caused by airborne droplets, the rest are contact infections. I understand that it is unusual for the Soviet generation to wash their hands, but we must accustom ourselves.
    2) Covid is what causes viral pneumonia. And it is much more severe than bacterial infection. This is a note to the author so that he does not get confused in terms.
    3) quarantine was introduced so that when the author (God forbid) is delivered in a coma with Covid, he would have enough oxygen. Otherwise, if there is a wave... we’ll still have to fight for it...
    4) Covid affects the brain in some people (see above)))) and jokes aside: 30-year-old guys walk naked around the wards, and 40-year-old men solve work matters while lying in diapers! My wife has never seen anything like this before.

    Bottom line: no need to panic! But denying its existence is a sign of stupidity. It is important to be attentive to hygiene and clearly monitor your well-being.
    All of health!
    1. +7
      23 May 2020 22: 00
      How many branches do we have in the country, Mr. alarmist? I think at least 10000, let’s extrapolate your idea - 400.000 died from Covid in the country. It’s clear that people are in grief, but why dance on other people’s bones. There is no need to inflame passions; all that is expected of you is submission.
      Quote: Dmitry Dunaev
      I understand that it is unusual for the Soviet generation to wash their hands, but we must accustom ourselves

      Don’t write about what you don’t know, wash your brains with stupid soap and teach yourself and your loved ones hygiene.
      1. -5
        23 May 2020 22: 32
        Did you register today especially for me? ))
        where do the statistics on branches throughout the country come from? Do you work for the Ministry of Health? Or just to p@r loudly?
        At your age it’s forgivable, but still...
        Nobody expects anything from me. But people like you, either out of stupidity or for bribes, incite other mentally unstable minds to action.
    2. -1
      24 May 2020 00: 48
      Is the author an instigator or simply uneducated?
      The same question arises. I think it's probably the first one.
  70. +1
    23 May 2020 21: 42
    The media fanned the panic, as they usually do for any reason (it’s strange to listen for two weeks about a crashed plane and 100 dead, despite the fact that 5200 people die a day in the Russian Federation), the authorities had to react in accordance with the panic. According to the principle “it’s better to let them criticize us for the economy than for the corpses.” This is called the fifth estate. And if quarantine had not been introduced, the same authors (including this one) would have been screaming “where is the quarantine”, “they want to kill us all”, etc. And this happens in most countries just like ours, because society is built according to the same principles.
    1. -2
      23 May 2020 22: 50
      My opinion is that the media did not incite panic. They explained quite gently that it is dangerous only for those over 65. In fact, it is dangerous for everyone.
  71. +2
    23 May 2020 22: 28
    Or maybe this is war? Biological. In order to bring down the economies of states.
    After all, you can’t unleash a nuclear one, but you can get it in response. And the virus is unknown, it has no nationality. Launch it and wait for the result - “torn to shreds.”
    But something didn’t go according to plan and, as a result of globalization, the virus spread throughout the world, including its launchers.
    In any case, the goal was achieved - if they did not die out, then the economy was destroyed.
    Although the truth is probably somewhere in the middle...
    1. -3
      23 May 2020 22: 47
      It does not matter. Now it is more important to save people, medicine, the economy, the army! And then again at the borders, as I understand it, round dances begin... Now we can’t give up any slack.
      1. +1
        29 May 2020 23: 26
        Quote: Dmitry Dunaev
        Now it’s more important to save people

        How? Instead of a possible infection with a virus, leaving them to die of hunger and go crazy in the process within four walls? Questionable concern.
        Quote: Dmitry Dunaev
        medicine

        You can't save what doesn't exist. There is no medicine left in Russia (not Moscow), and for a long time.
        Quote: Dmitry Dunaev
        the economy

        I don’t understand how this economy has been completely destroyed by self-isolation. Only tax deductions in some places have fallen by half (and this is still a good option!), and in addition to this there is a break in production chains, bankruptcies of companies, especially small ones, layoffs of employees (hence the increase in unemployment), etc. and so on. And they stagger further. Focused and persistent.
        Quote: Dmitry Dunaev
        the army

        Except that things seem to be in order here so far (although perhaps they just don’t wash dirty linen in public, I don’t know).
    2. 0
      24 May 2020 05: 08
      Those who launched were vaccinated in advance.
  72. 0
    24 May 2020 00: 32
    Pandemic: don't look for a black cat in a dark room

    It's right.
    First you need to turn on the light in the room bully
    ---
    Therefore, the author, before assessing (is this nonsense or something serious) the pandemic going on around the world, should answer one “simple” question:
    Is COVID-19 natural or artificial in origin?
    ---
    If the latter (and the probability is extremely high), then we need to take it extremely seriously; to claim about “hysteria” regarding the coronavirus is to violate the principle
    Do no harm
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  74. -6
    24 May 2020 01: 36
    Author Serezhenka. I would write to Roskomnadzor and have you covered for fake news.
    But after reading the article to the end, I realized that you simply understand NOTHING AT ALL in this matter. So it's not fake at all.
    Personally, I can't wait for there to be a good vaccine.
    I and all normal people will get vaccinated.
    And you and all the witnesses to the sect of the absence of a pandemic, FOR GOD’S SAKE, DO NOT GET VACCINED.
    This is not a particularly dangerous disease, and in general vaccinations are harmful laughing

    Don’t get vaccinated, as they say for those who believe that traffic rules are for suckers... I remembered: the road will make its own selection.
    1. +2
      24 May 2020 13: 50
      You can wait, but you cannot wait. By the time there is a vaccine, the virus will have changed so much that the vaccine will not take it. The law of nature and the state of modern virology. With the flu, this has been happening every year for many, many years, and the vaccine against last year's flu does not help at all against the current one.
      So you will still get sick, maybe a little later, maybe right now. Fear is a bad advisor. And yes, I got sick in the winter, and so did my family.
      1. -3
        24 May 2020 17: 11
        Vaccination against last year's flu does not help against this one at all.

        You know, I can answer in detail why you are wrong. But I won’t, I’m tired of wasting time on ignorant people who consider themselves mega-experts.
        So I'll wait, and you don't have to cough laughing
        1. -1
          24 May 2020 17: 18
          You can not. It's a shame to lie.
          1. -1
            24 May 2020 17: 26
            You can not. It's a shame to lie.

            You are lying. Fine. Let's bet I'm giving you a detailed answer why your story about flu vaccination has nothing to do with the vaccine that will be developed against coronavirus. And you admit that you are illiterate in this and, well, send a bottle of cognac for your troubles. laughing
            1. -2
              25 May 2020 13: 02
              So you don’t “work” for free? Well, that's what needed to be proven...
              1. 0
                26 May 2020 00: 38
                So you don’t “work” for free?

                He worked for pennies during the times of EBN and Marked. Never free.
                Any work (and there is no need to put this word in quotation marks) must be motivated (paid). Money is a bad motivation, moral satisfaction is stronger. The national recognition of the person who lied that he lied is quite a good motivation for me.
                A comment that a specialist cannot find fault with. proving my position on the subject of the dispute will require an hour of work (proofs, basic thesaurus, explanation of the obvious)

                Of course I can waste my time just like that. For example, for people WHO WANT TO BECOME EDUCATED, simply because it also brings me joy. BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO BECOME MORE EDUCATED. You, like any fanatic, are not interested in the truth.
      2. 0
        29 May 2020 23: 29
        Quote: Mikhail3
        You can wait, but you cannot wait. By the time there is a vaccine, the virus will have changed so much that the vaccine will not take it.

        Agree. Already in mid-May there were 17 known strains. But he (officially) only walks around the planet for six months. By the way, there is no single vaccination against the same flu; a new one is delivered every year.
  75. -1
    24 May 2020 05: 01
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    It's not about epidemics. The fact is that there are people necessary for the state and its activities, and there are unnecessary ones, whose activities have long been closed in on themselves. These people produce a certain product to wear, eat, certain services to consume - and all this revolves in itself, the state, of course, has a percentage of this and taxes, but these funds are mostly spent on all this mouse fuss - for /p to state employees, social services, etc., etc. Only a small part of people are engaged in the production of something critical for the life of the state or something that can be sold over the hill.
    However, this whole mass, closed in on itself, often simply does not catch up with this differential - these thoughts are floating around about some kind of justice, about the fact that the subsoil is for the people, about some kind of rights, etc. In other words, this mass of people can become a problem for the system as a whole, a problem that cannot pay for its solution, so to speak. Hence all these control measures and toys with QR codes. In the event of some situation, this part of the population will be told “stay at home and don’t rock the boat” - otherwise there will be fines, imprisonment, etc.
    And the “necessary part” will ensure the functioning of the state as usual.
    In my opinion, this is what we are adapting to. Because no one in power believes in democracy for a long time - and people’s desires do not decrease. They looked at Ukraine, Libya and drew conclusions, so to speak, how to deal with discontent if something happens.

    It will not work. What do you mean, sit at home and don’t rock the boat? Or a severe state of emergency, with justification and the use of special equipment and weapons, which will cause opposition. And no matter how you psychologically treat the campaigners from the law enforcement agencies, they do not live in a vacuum and no one took away their gadgets. They read, watch and analyze, which is also a factor. When giving the order to shoot at civilians, you need to very much convince the fighter that they are terrorists. And then Moscow is not all of Russia. I am sure that such things are simply not possible in the Urals, Siberia, or the Center. To drive, without justification, people to die of hunger in their homes... They will sweep away the local authorities instantly. This is not the 19th century and Russia is not inhabited by serfs. Are you going to silently watch as your children die of hunger?
    QR codes are just a clumsy attempt by the authorities to drive the huge population, primarily of the most infected Moscow itself, into self-quarantine. It became scary that, as the epidemic grew, it would reach Rublyovka and the Kremlin. And these actions, although spasmodic and not systemic, brought some benefit.
  76. 0
    24 May 2020 05: 02
    But there is no cure

    Scientists from the Shanghai Pharmacological Institute of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the Wuhan Institute of Virology have discovered that a Chinese medicine called Shuang Huang Lian Elixir, the active ingredient of which is Japanese honeysuckle, can contain the coronavirus.
    https://ria.ru/20200131/1564124501.html
    The antiviral effect of Japanese honeysuckle has been confirmed by Vector.
    http://orthilia.ru/index.php?topic_view=10
    And not just them.
    https://www.gazeta.ru/science/news/2020/05/06/n_14387587.shtml

    But you can’t buy Japanese honeysuckle in a pharmacy, but you can buy Japanese sophora, which can be used in combination treatment.
    Why do I think that this untested medicine can be effective against coronavirus?
    1. It has an antiviral effect, serves for immune correction of the body, it is actively used in the fight against hepatitis.
    2. It has a good anti-inflammatory effect, inhibits the excessive response of the immune system. Therefore, it is used to deter severe inflammation in oncology and to treat lupus erythematosus.
    3. It dilutes the blood, increases the elasticity of the walls of the capillaries, helps the resorption of blood clots, cholesterol plaques, improves blood circulation to the limbs with gangrene.
    4. Preparations based on Sophora japonica trigger such a powerful regeneration process that they are used in the treatment of pathologies of the cardiovascular, respiratory, genitourinary and gastrointestinal systems.
    https://inflife.ru/sofora-iaponskaia-nastoika-instrykciia-po-primeneniu-i-sposoby-prigotovleniia-v-domashnih-ysloviiah-pobochnye-effekty-i-protivopokazaniia/
    https://polzavred-edi.ru/sofora-japonskaja-lechebnye-svojstva-i-protivopokazanija/
    https://sovets.net/16234-sofora-yaponskaya.html
    https://gepatit.uef.ru/sofora-japonskaja-pri-gepatite-s/
    https://travalt.ru/product/sofora-yaponskaya/
  77. +3
    24 May 2020 06: 09
    I support that part of the population who do not believe in a terrible pandemic. Yes, there probably is a virus. But if he were as terrible as they make him out to be, is this how the authorities should act? And how would you lead if you were the president if it were a pandemic? I think the answer will be the same for everyone. Not like that, but harshly. They wouldn't allow all this funny chaos to happen. This means it’s all about the economy, which we don’t have in our country. But even now someone has more candy wrappers and their hands are warming up.
    1. -1
      24 May 2020 10: 16
      How to proceed? The power is with a pitchfork: you can’t open it - the shaft will go. You can't close it - the economy will collapse.
  78. -1
    24 May 2020 08: 30
    The experts were fed up. There was no other way to cut the loot. Yes, this is not a plague, so the measures taken are not so harsh. But it’s no easier for those who die because someone doesn’t believe them. And tell this to those doctors who work in the red zone. And to those who became infected. In our region, all the places in trained mono-hospitals are already occupied. And the peak is still far away. And only thanks to the restrictions introduced we now have time to prepare. Fortunately, the military built a hospital and is now starting it up. No! Actually interesting. At first, everyone introduced restrictions - Putin was bad because he didn’t introduce them. Then they introduced a self-isolation regime, articles like this appeared. And for human rights, too. Now the restrictions are being lifted, there are cries that everyone is screwed now. As in the joke, you will decide whether to put on your panties or take off your cross
    1. -1
      24 May 2020 10: 20
      I have been sitting with my child for the second month now while my wife saves such “heroes”, including non-believers. To be fair, reading this nonsense, I already want Darwinian selection to happen. So that deniers have the opportunity to actually prove their invulnerability. But no. We need to save.

      It boiled.
  79. 0
    24 May 2020 08: 39
    Why not listen to the country's chief virologist V.V. Zverev?
    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/bbs/a-pochemu-by-ne-poslushat-glavnogo-virusologa-strany-vv-zvereva-5ea54fdb7963b23a2af1fdcb
    1. 0
      24 May 2020 08: 42
      The problem is that people in power absolutely don’t give a damn about the opinions of experts, since if you base your power on the achievements of modern scientific thought, then you won’t get any power - every step you take is already planned and predetermined for you. Where's the pleasure? :)
      Modern life is becoming more and more complicated every year. Problems are multiplying. Probably, the next stage in the development of society will be scientism (otherwise, we will all soon simply die from such voluntarism).
      It is little consolation that the authorities will also die with us. All these dances with tambourines and coronavirus, as a result of the destruction of the Russian healthcare system, illustrated this perfectly.
      1. 0
        24 May 2020 10: 26
        Tell about your difficult life to those who lived 100-200 or more years ago. They will laugh.
      2. +3
        24 May 2020 11: 53
        There will be no scientocracy. It is impossible in modern society. The thirst for power cannot overcome a person if his intelligence is above 110 according to Eysenck. Such a person takes on power with great reluctance, as he is fully aware of the responsibility and difficulties of great power.
        And he is opposed by millions (I am not exaggerating) of stupid and incompetent maniacs, monomaniacs, who want power more than anything else. Ready to kill for power, destroy for power, destroy, destroy, burn... There is no such destructive strategy, so many victims, such harm to everything and everyone that power seekers will not go to in order to achieve power... with which they are, in principle, incapable cope with.
        What kind of scientists are you, really...
    2. +1
      24 May 2020 10: 03
      By the way, have time to look, otherwise such publications on Zen are deleted too quickly....
  80. -1
    24 May 2020 09: 13
    This article “which we are treated to day after day, is manipulative and anti-scientific,” because the numbers given in this leaflet are taken from the air, there are no references.
  81. +1
    24 May 2020 09: 53
    I get the impression that all this viral hysteria is nothing more than a global conspiracy of governments to exterminate older people - geranticide.
    There are too many pensioners all over the world, which greatly slows down the economy of any country.
    We even carried out pension reform, putting millions of people on the verge of starvation. But this is a one-time measure, and as the managers themselves now say, it did not lead to the desired results....
    The Americans (?) came up with (and the rest picked up) a better trick - long-term (they are now starting to talk about a second wave) instilling fear, with a special emphasis on older people. It is no secret that older people are the most trusting of all media. Everywhere they publish terrible “statistics” on the sick, which in fact turn out to be inflated or manipulated (see above the interview with the chief virologist of Russia). But, if you believe the country’s chief virologist (see link above), (and who else should you trust if not him?), then the mortality rate from this virus is lower than the mortality rate from ordinary flu (something about 1%).
    So the essence of all these measures taken by the governments of different countries is precisely to instill fear, and the main target is pensioners. Back in the last century, it was found that the immunity of humans and animals very, very much depends on the emotional state, and prolonged fear is a real killer of immunity! And what is noteworthy is that with the end of this hysteria, the mortality rate from this “struggle” will not end. According to the postulates of the New German Medicine (which, at the moment, have already undergone comprehensive clinical testing and are medical facts), over the next three years we will still experience an “epidemic” of cancer diseases associated with prolonged limitation of living space, fear of death, plus resentment and the anger of people who lost their jobs.
    Now they are trying to blame all mortality on the coronavirus, as if other diseases do not exist. But let’s remember about “killer number 1” (according to the same WHO) - cardiovascular diseases. I guarantee that it has increased significantly (if not tenfold), and not only from fear, but also from failure to provide timely assistance, since, thanks to measures aimed at “fighting the virus,” many specialized departments in hospitals were closed, all clinics, and there are no scheduled appointments with patients.
    The same applies to “killers No. 2 and No. 3” - diabetes and cancer, the course of which, on the one hand, also largely depends on the emotional state of people, and on the other, also strongly depends on the timely provision of qualified medical care.
    And as you probably understand, all this, first of all, concerns pensioners very seriously. However, there are also direct facts - in Italy, for example, a notorious guidance letter from the local Ministry of Health was published, which cynically recommended not to treat older people, but to focus on patients of working age....
    Thus, I believe that we are witnessing a geranthocide that is monstrous in its scale and cynicism.
  82. +6
    24 May 2020 10: 49
    We talked about the coronavirus with my wife and mother-in-law. In a very strange way, they quickly came to a consensus - a serious crisis has long been overdue in the capitalist world, which, as usual, ends in a global war. It's good when there are 3 players at the table and everyone plays fairly. But we now have too many players and we all know for sure that at least one cheater! Everyone is already scared here! Many people can pull aces out of their sleeves, but who will end up with the Joker?!!
    Therefore, they put off risking a global war and decided to slow down and catch their breath.
  83. +3
    24 May 2020 11: 34
    The saddest thing in this whole story, of course, besides the destroyed economy and the poverty that will soon follow, is the state of our government. The USSR is back! But not all of them... The same government has returned, which not only did not understand what was happening in the country. It wouldn’t be a problem, there are people who understand.
    The authorities at the end of the USSR, like now, could no longer turn to those people who understand the problems. For the simple reason that ours and the authorities simply do not understand what the experts are telling them. What is the use of expert communities if those who should implement the recommendations of experts, adding their own knowledge and skills to the recommendations, are absolutely incapable of doing this? The authorities cannot even understand who is an expert and who is an “expert”!
    1. +3
      24 May 2020 11: 34
      A brilliant idea was put into action - let the authorities “steal a little”, as long as they work somehow, they say theft is inevitable! As a result, exactly what should have happened happened. The power pyramid consists entirely of an absolutely incompetent thief, who, in principle, is incapable of any creative activity. Even if you start shooting them in batches, the situation will not change even by a hair. The very devices of the power pyramid clone in place of those planted, removed from the feeding trough, exactly the same ones.
      1. +3
        24 May 2020 11: 35
        With such power, you can only steal further until everything, everything just ends. And it will end soon, because the people selected for power are, by their very essence, destroyers, and they destroy, spoil, break everything for which they are “responsible.” According to a simple principle - if you break into a trillion, then in the process of destruction you can steal a million for yourself. Profit!
        1. +1
          24 May 2020 11: 35
          But this whole system will not work under any circumstances. The slightest glitch - for example, a slightly promoted virus on the Internet - and the destruction moves to a new level. Instead of coping with the situation, the situation develops into a disaster.
          1. 0
            24 May 2020 11: 36
            I apologize for the strange presentation of my post. The site didn't let him through. And I really wanted to know - what exactly are they not letting in? And in this way I cut the post and entered it in parts, trying to understand - where did I break the rules? There are two sentences left to enter. These sentences do not contain anything sensational, or abusive, or anything that I have not written before.
            Why were there “repressions” from the site? I still don't understand...
  84. 0
    24 May 2020 12: 32
    Quote: Mikhail3
    Why were there “repressions” from the site? I still don't understand...

    No, it's just too much buffoonery... :)
    1. 0
      24 May 2020 13: 42
      There are much more texts above.
      1. 0
        24 May 2020 13: 53
        Well, I have a little trick.... :)
  85. +6
    24 May 2020 13: 46
    COVID does not fall under the definition of an epidemic, let alone a pandemic. But what a convenient excuse to solve a bunch of non-medical problems.
  86. -2
    24 May 2020 13: 56
    “Firstly, there is no doubt that COVID-19 is not a particularly dangerous disease. It’s simply dangerous. The same as influenza, viral pneumonia or acute respiratory viral infections.”

    Oh, oh, oh, oh, tell the author that people do die from crowns, and I know for sure that my wife’s friend’s uncle died, otherwise it’s not dangerous for him. How is that? Isn't it dangerous when people die? What is dangerous? And tell him that, unlike the flu, viral pneumonia or acute respiratory viral infections/acute respiratory infections, there are no vaccines or adequate treatment for crowns yet...
    Threat, I would officially allow deniers like him not only not to wear masks, but also to stick their fingers into a socket and cross the street when a red light is on.... let him continue to deny in that OTHER world....
    1. DDT
      -1
      26 May 2020 17: 28
      Their grandmother from the VRIL society told them that viruses are inventions of the Jews in order to mislead the Aryans and other Aryans...
  87. -2
    24 May 2020 16: 25
    Hmmm, Grandpa Trump needs to be introduced to the author of the article, Sergei Alekseev, the American ps doesn’t even know that he dreamed about a million people infected and about 100 thousand dead, there is nothing dangerous and his claims to China will make the whole Deribasovskaya group laugh.....
    1. -1
      24 May 2020 17: 17
      How is the weather good there, on Deribasovskaya? Or rain? The virus is dangerous. But the measures taken were not at all the ones that should have been taken. That's what we're talking about. But you understand this, right? oh life...
  88. 0
    24 May 2020 16: 37
    it must be trash, just out of the blue, although those who are particularly concerned could be recommended to wear two masks, or a gas mask, whatever
    1. 0
      29 May 2020 23: 35
      Quote: prodi
      it must be trash, just out of the blue, although those who are particularly concerned could be recommended to wear two masks, or a gas mask, whatever

      In Podolsk, one guy seriously goes to the store wearing a gas mask and L-1. This is not the first time his colleague has met him there.
  89. 0
    24 May 2020 18: 00
    Information for reflection
    https://www.comnews.ru/content/204491/2020-02-07/2020-w06/moskva-zapustit-pyatiletniy-eksperiment-iskusstvennym-intellektom
  90. -1
    24 May 2020 18: 07
    Quote: Mikhail3
    How is the weather good there, on Deribasovskaya? Or rain? The virus is dangerous. But the measures taken were not at all the ones that should have been taken. That's what we're talking about. But you understand this, right? oh life...


    About the weather on DERIBASOVSKAYA, ask the residents of Odessa....
    ARE YOU TALKING THE WRONG MEASURES? And what should they be? Am I trying to follow the suggestions of certified virologists and WHO? Whose do you suggest? Armchair sociologists and military experts who urgently became virologist experts? Well, let the crazy people listen to them.
  91. -1
    24 May 2020 22: 26
    “We have a legal framework to cut off such nonsense information and block deliberately false information, and to hold the people who spread it accountable.”
    (C) Onishchenko.
  92. 0
    24 May 2020 22: 29
    Author, good article. But I still can’t make a clear summary. The main contradiction is what to do in this situation. Sending patients into quarantine, and at the same time, diagnostics are imperfect. So how should we have acted? But this is the main question, the rest is lyrics. After all, obviously, at the very beginning, no one really knew all the consequences, and even now they know little. So it was necessary to acquire herd immunity without any quarantines and self-isolations? Is this the scientific approach? But this is a huge risk, who would take it? The main thing is people (IMHO), otherwise, who will raise this economy from its knees?
  93. kig
    0
    25 May 2020 03: 19
    Does anyone still doubt that the virus is false? - asks the author.

    In Brazil, the number of deaths from coronavirus per day exceeded 1 thousand for the first time. According to the Ministry of Health, 24 deaths were reported in the last 1179 hours. - this is reality? Or, according to the author, a bluff?
  94. -1
    25 May 2020 11: 11
    ...Who did this, lords? And Kurginyan is not the person who will talk nonsense. Name and reputation, you know... Just listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYmcOcECYVM&feature=emb_rel_end
    1. DDT
      0
      26 May 2020 17: 27
      Armenians are all liars, the second oldest nation. you can't fool us laughing laughing
  95. +3
    25 May 2020 13: 38
    In the comments, many write about doctors... they say they are a risk group... additional payments... I count the number of deaths and tell...
    But take any cashier from Magnit/Pyaterochka.. The “risk group” there is higher than that of doctors.. Because the flow per day is hundreds of times higher!! But they don’t tell us something in the news about “hotbeds of Covid” in some stores/supermarkets... and that they need to pay 80 thousand, etc.
    Or you can take a minibus driver/conductor.. or there are still a bunch of professions where the number of contacts with people amounts to hundreds per day.. And everywhere there is silence about them!! I haven't heard a single case...
    But about hospitals, how nice it is to upload from TV.. “flash”, “new outbreak”...
    In short, use your head again and draw conclusions..))
  96. +2
    25 May 2020 21: 19
    A good article written by a competent person.
  97. +1
    26 May 2020 09: 34
    Quote: PavelT
    But earlier, in 2018, I found medical articles through Yandex that in that spring of 2016, mortality from alcohol abuse increased in Russia

    In Bulgaria, in December 2016 and January 2017, there was an unprecedented total mortality rate - more than 3 thousand per week (in 7 days) against 2 thousand on average. Now the mortality rate is slightly lower than last year and the average and is quite normal.
  98. +2
    26 May 2020 14: 23
    There is an absolute indicator - the total mortality of the population.
    It is not so easy to falsify. If the overall mortality rate of the population has not increased by 20 percent or more, compared with the average mortality rate in the past 5-10 years, then we cannot talk about any dangerous epidemic.
    Information like - I have a friend, an athlete without any illnesses, died for 30 years or all the doctors in our hospital died from this virus does not prove or convince anything. There is no way to verify this information.
  99. DDT
    0
    26 May 2020 17: 25
    Yes, of course no one doubts it! All thinking people have long known that on the planet Gloria, our Neanderthal allies are suffering a heavy defeat from the Anunnaki from the planet Nibiru. To hide the massive deployment of military personnel, doctors and specialists, they came up with all sorts of viruses and disasters so as not to explain to the families. Yesterday, they also came to me from SMERSHINO and FUNNY, checking to see if I was a foreign agent. But thank God, he got off with a reprimand and a citation... negative negative laughing
  100. -1
    26 May 2020 21: 16
    The author of the article simplifies everything too much... Is there no threat? How is it - ,,no,,? The statistics on deaths, for example, among medical workers in the Russian Federation are scary. ,,Latin America is on fire... ,,Nothing special,,?
    There is something special. We must clearly understand that this is not a sammo. You should know that the strains are DIFFERENT in different countries. Different from each other. ,,Silent,, world bacteriological war. What's light or funny about it?
    Different participating countries have different goals and objectives. But the most important thing, in our opinion, is CLASS differences. We have repeatedly said that the classics of Marxism-Leninism were laymen in spiritual matters and, therefore, missed, “did not notice,” the class of “ordinary non-humans.” And they, like those gophers, exist. They have many names - “world backstage”, “freemasons”, “black aristocracy”, “satanists”, “reptilians”, “Sorosyatintsy”, “globalists”, “.. Their essence is important - conscious service to Evil.
    So, they and we, the people, have completely different goals and objectives in this confrontation with the “pandemic.”
    O n and the current situation are used, incl. to tighten control over people. The notorious "electronic concentration camp". Any concentration camp, you will agree, is not the most worthy and very unattractive place for people. How to resist the plans of cunning, ordinary non-humans? Here's the challenge. Difficult task. But it needs to be solved