New deadlines for launching the frigate of project 22350 Admiral Golovko

The third frigate of project 22350 Admiral Golovko will be launched on May 22. In connection with the coronavirus, the ceremony will be held with a minimum number of participants. This was reported by TASS with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.

The launch of the newest frigate is scheduled for May 22. The ceremony will be held with a minimum number of participants in connection with the coronavirus

- the agency leads the words of the source.

Earlier, the press service of the Severnaya Verf shipyard, which built the frigate, announced that the launching of the ship was planned for late April or early May. However, the deadlines were postponed due to coronavirus infection. Currently, Admiral Golovko is in a floating dock, where he was moved from the boathouse at the end of March. Outboard work and painting of the lower part are underway on the ship.

"Admiral Golovko" is the third ship in the series of frigates of project 22350 and the second serial. Laid down on February 1, 2012, transmission the fleet scheduled for 2021. At present, the head frigate of project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov is serving in the Russian Navy; the first serial Admiral Kasatonov is getting ready for commissioning. The fourth frigate of the series (third serial) "Admiral Isakov" was laid down on November 14, 2013 and is under construction. Two more frigates of this project - Admiral Amelko and Admiral Chichagov - were laid at the Severnaya Verf shipyard on April 23, 2019.

Note that Admiral Golovko is the first frigate of project 22350 with a fully Russian power plant. The leading and first production frigates of Project 22350 - Admiral Gorshkov and Admiral Kasatonov - are equipped with diesel engines of Russian production, but gas turbine units (GTU) manufactured by the Ukrainian company Zorya-Mashproekt are used as afterburners. At the "Admiral Golovko" installed domestic analogue of the Ukrainian gas turbine. According to open information, the main power plant of frigates of project 22350 is a gas turbine engine with a total capacity of 65 thousand liters. from. and diesel generators with a total capacity of 4 thousand kW.

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[The leader of the Redskins]

Nine years from the bookmark ... Long! Not forgivably long! I recall with sadness information about the construction of military ships in Soviet times.

[Bashkirkhan]

There were problems with the engine, more precisely with its Ukrainian part. Turbines + reducer. The fact that the GTE is now on the frigate is a fact, but it is not known whether there are gearboxes. "Admiral Golovko" at the dock before launching.

[antivirus]

such a small spoon and so much it can’t be digested, completed.
And not 100 tons of VI.
What a shame what the fleet brought to Shoigu, how shameful he is before the couch’s couch!

[starshina]

And you don’t bullshit not to let out your turbines and engines it is a shame ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Starshina

And you don’t bullshit not to let out your turbines and engines it is a shame ...

What a horror - all countries in the world, except three, are disgraced.
For their ship gas-turbine engines are produced by the USA (GE), Britain (RR) and Ukraine (Zorya-Mashproekt). All the others, to one degree or another, are collaborating with this troika (the same China is tied to Zorya).

[antivirus]

I bow to an equal god. poke everyone?

[Fmax]

So then it is the state, in order to solve such problems in advance, to plan, to mobilize production. And this is how the Soviet ships will rot in our country, and they will build new units.

[starshina]

But the yachts of Russian billionaires are more expensive and the best in the world !!! There is something to be proud of ...

[musorg]

Everything will be fine!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Nine years from the bookmark ... Long! Not forgivably long! I recall with sadness information about the construction of military ships in Soviet times.

Compare with the pace of construction of "Afromax". Tankers are more important.
And do not tell that one does not concern the other. As for the.

[Bashkirkhan]

You have an incorrect comparison of a completely Russian frigate and for the most part an imported tanker. The first "Afromax", the name "St. Petersburg", without a nasal tip, was dragged from South Korea, dragged from the floating dock onto the slipway of SSK Zvezda. The nasal tip of several sections for this Afromax was assembled at the Zvezda SSK, then docked with the hull delivered from South Korea and launched into the water.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

You have an incorrect comparison of a frigate and a tanker.

I am not comparing a frigate with a tanker, but the pace of construction.
And the pace of construction to a large extent depends on funding.

[Bashkirkhan]

After the annexation of the Crimea, the test bench, gearboxes and turbines for the frigate of project 22350 remained behind the front line. For billions of rubles, a stand was built in Rybinsk and turbines were reproduced. It is not possible to buy them. Also, one frigate of Project 22350 requires 2 (two) RO55 gearboxes. Reducers are manufactured for 1 (one) ship so far. The gearboxes will be run in, disassembled for the last time, defective, assembled to Saturn, to the stand, and turned already as part of the DGTA M55R. And there, according to the results of bench tests, the assembly of the second pair of our own production will begin. Whether the tests were completed, I do not know. The fact that Saturn can manufacture one M90FR (as you know, three M90FRs have already been manufactured) and deliver it to the Northern Shipyard is a completely realizable event, as well as the manufacture of a diesel engine by the Kolomna plant. But where to get the PO55R reducer, which is being manufactured by Zvezda-Reducer for the next frigate 22350 "Admiral Isakov", I can't imagine. Maybe Turborus collected it on his knee or removed it by secret paths from the Ukrainian Zorya-Mashproekt for Admiral Golovko?
Tests of PO55 gearboxes for frigates of project 22350 at the Zvezda factory

[bk0010]

Is it impossible to switch to electric movement?

[Bashkirkhan]

22350 - technologies of the last century (from the point of view of the power plant), but changing the power plant on it is not advisable.
Electric movement will be tested on the project 20386. 20386 is an attempt to jump into the last car of the departing train in terms of new technologies. We will not develop - we will lag behind forever and will always lose both in speed, and in profitability, and in cost, and in serial production ...

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

22350 - technologies of the last century (from the point of view of GEM),

Well, this ... In Chinese EM type 052D, the same in its scheme GEM (diesel-gas turbine) and also with a total power of about 65000 hp (!), only there the given destroyer has full VI - 7500 t., (true adjustable pitch screw), but essentially the same (power and its scheme), gives his ship 30 knots (!)...
Well, the second. The Chinese, unlike us, their destroyers (I repeat more VI), build a series of at least 15-17 units (!)of which 12 or 13 are already in the fleet (!)... I ask you to notice that a sharp relationship "on the brink of a foul with the United States"The Chinese also periodically have like the Russian Federation ?! .... Here is some information for consideration: - Why are you planning large-scale shipbuilding programs for your navy, they are not too lazy, get on time necessary, even licensed ship power plants, having adjusted (localized) their release in the territory of their country (by purchasing licenses for Ukrainian turbines and MTU diesel (!) //)?!
And think about 22350 Ave. (the first three, if not even four), were laid before the coup in Ukraine ?! The analytical departments of the GRU and the FSB did not anticipate a possible break in cooperative trade relations. (!) for shipbuilding programs of the domestic Navy ?! Or didn’t report defense mines ?! Or reported, but they, in turn, unlike the Chinese, are short-sighted, and did not take care of the timely (!) organizing on its territory a center for marine gas turbine engine building and assembling gearboxes (by analogy with Zarya-Mashproekt), luring Nikolayev specialists here before the coup, and providing them with everything they need, and most importantly, even under Yanukovych, without buying licenses for so necessary (primarily) components of the 1155 GEM (namely, the gas turbine engine: DT-59and DO90, and gearboxes to them (!) ... We are already starting to reap the fruits of this (the three first-born 1155 from the Northern Fleet, it seems they have already stopped ?!)the same turbine models, though with a slightly different gearbox), were also used on "Petrel" 11356 P / M (!)... So who screwed up domestic shipbuilding ?! Not far-sighted (or not professional intelligence, if you didn’t inform) or sloppy MO and USC industry ?!
But the Chinese did not clap their ears (!)so it turns out ?!
About the same (but slightly different in the direction of increasing the VI scale), the situation is with their new type 055, in comparison, our "wet dreams", about 22350M (!) ....?! Although what the hell, giving birth to a completely new project by scaling, is it not clear to me ?! (!), not really more expensive than scaling 22350, in favor of an increase of 1,5-2 times ...?!

Quote: Bashkirkhan

20386 is an attempt to jump into the last car of the departing train in terms of new technologies.

so that for starters, would learn "old technology" (as you put it) hone to industrial production... well, I think so (!)...

[Bashkirkhan]

Good comment, there is something to think about.

[Orkraider]

Welcome.

Tests of PO55 gearboxes for frigates of project 22350 at the Zvezda factory

Your photos of testing gearboxes PO55 dated July 20, 2019.

The tests are completed.

But where to get the PO55R reducer, which is being manufactured by Zvezda-Reducer for the next frigate 22350 "Admiral Isakov", I can't imagine.

The RO55 gearbox is being made now, also with us, and it will be made on the Star)))

By timing:
According to S. Panov, the former (2000-2015) engineer of the Zori, and since 2016, the Rybinsk UEC-Saturn engineer S. Panov, who, in a discussion with his interlocutors, reports that "the estimated delivery time for M55 ships is summer 2020." ... And in more detail: "As for the M55, its gearboxes are being tested at Zvezda, the gas turbine engines are already ready. Gearboxes from Zvezda will go to Saturn in December, all this will be tested again and in the summer of 2020 the DGTA will go to the ship." ...

According to Istomin, I will not say anything, but PO55 is for him to manufacture, and will soon arrive at the stand.

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: Orkraider

According to Istomin, I will not say anything, but PO55 is for him to manufacture, and will soon arrive at the stand.

For the "Admiral Istomin" project 11356 motors and gearboxes will be purchased by the Indians from the Sumerians. UEC-Saturn makes a turbine and a reducer under a contract for Admiral Isakov. Because the supply of M55R kits (right and left rotation) for the order is concluded with Saturn, everything is Russian-made (gearbox, gas turbine engine, DD, etc.). The contract for Admiral Golovko was signed with Turborus. "Turborus" managed to get some of the products before the sanctions, but what exactly I do not know.

[Orkraider]

About Istomin described, wrote about Isakov. At 11356 they did not even try to replace, which, in my opinion, is correct. And so the solution is not bad, we’ll sell the hulls - and not cut it.

[Bashkirkhan]

I understand that a typo. As for the sale of 11356 I agree. In the early 2000s there was a choice from the Indian 11356 and 22350. Naturally, the Navy 11356 was not interested. The ship already lagged behind its competitors even in the contours of the hull and superstructure. But with 22350 it turned out too much. Initially, there were 4 (5) OCDs, and in the end the number of OCDs exceeded 20 (Rakhmanov spoke of 26). It’s clear that the defense industry did not cope with so many new ones. Therefore, in an emergency version, 11356 was ordered with the equipment that they could quickly put into series and for the amount that was. And after force majeure with engines, it’s good that 11356 Indians were able to sell.

[Alien From]

Seven feet under the keel as they say .....) but how insanely long we produce .....

[jovanni]

... The launch of the newest frigate is scheduled for May 22.

Of course, after 9 years of construction, the ship is not out of date, but calling it "newest" is somehow not entirely correct ... Unfortunately ...

[Sky strike fighter]

Note that Admiral Golovko is the first Project 22350 frigate with a completely Russian power plant.

According to open information, the main power plant of frigates of project 22350 is a gas turbine engine with a total capacity of 65 thousand liters. with. and diesel generators with a total capacity of 4 thousand kW.

Import substitution in action. You look, and for the 22350M we will make our own power plant.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

You look and for the 22350M we will make our GEM.

Is there an alternative?

[next322]

but how insanely long we produce .....


a couple of years completion and testing ...... total 10 years for one serial frigate

[starshina]

First, yachts for officials and then frigates then ...

[Thrifty]

Not seven but even 10 feet under the keel! If only the dates of launching, according to a bad new "tradition", were not moved to the right! !!

[Whirlwind]

Undoubtedly, the US sanctions war against Russia. It was not for this purpose that our economy would flourish, and the re-equipment of the Army and Navy was completed on time and efficiently ...
BUT, in war, as in war. Break through ...

[starshina]

You tell it to officials and journalists who have homes in Florida and Europe ...

[Brigadier]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Nine years from the bookmark ... Long! Not forgivably long! I recall with sadness information about the construction of military ships in Soviet times.

Because then there was a great SOVIET UNION, not "Putin's" Russia ...
Feel the difference?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Brigadier

Because then there was the great SOVIET UNION, and not "Putin's" Russia ...
Feel the difference?

So sho ???? All to fight Putin's Russia!? Chi sho Do you download chi?

[Nikolai Korovin]

And between the great Soviet Union and "Putin's" Russia there was also "Yeltsin's" Russia ... It seems to me that we should not forget about the presence of this small intermediate stage. The difference will be felt even more. By the way, after the October Revolution, military shipbuilding froze for 15 years. It will not be destroyed for long, it is difficult to restore. The famous battleship Marat, to a large extent thanks to the fire of which the Oranienbaum patch was held, with the loss of which Kronstadt would have fallen, and behind it, by all appearances, Leningrad - Petropavlovsk tsarist building. After Tsushima, before the start of the First World War (2nd World War II), 7 units of the same type or with similar parameters were built. Both old Slava and the Citizen-Tsarevich managed to show themselves in Moonsund in October 1917.

And by June 22, 1941, several new cruisers had been built and one battleship had been laid in Nikolaev (the readiness for June 22 was 23%). The Tsarist oil Noviks operated successfully in the Northern Fleet, the coal ones still seem to have written off everything. There were also very few new destroyers. Well, there was also the leader Tashkent ... Eternal memory ... The only thing that they managed to build in a significant amount was submarines, and so more and more military units, patrolmen and minesweepers, and even then, God knows what had to be re-equipped for the last two categories. ... So basically there was a "mosquito" fleet, the benefits of which are now being discussed at the VO. And if we compare the current rates of laying and launching of naval ships into the water with the pre-war period, the comparison will probably not be in favor of the pre-war period. After the war - yes, of course, the fleet began to grow faster, especially at the expense of nuclear submarines. But Novorossiysk, Italian-built Giulio Cesare, who died in the Bay of Sevastopol in peacetime, received as reparations. Do critics of the current state of affairs know this fact?

Still, you need to evaluate the specific situation, clarify the problem and make decisions. Now and then. Since the visitors of VO decisions obviously didn’t take, do not accept, and will not accept - at least evaluate the actions of those who take them on the basis of real possibilities, and not slam the castle with slogans, which causes melancholy. Toasts and self-praise, we once heard enough. If they corresponded to reality at least 50 percent, the great Soviet Union would not have collapsed. Well, maybe I underestimated the critical percentage a bit unhappily. At least 65-70% of the truth, say, is nevertheless desirable. 50% of the truth in self-praise, probably was. Not much, however.

[denplot]

According to the Oranienbaum Platz. Add the October Revolution (Gangut) to Marat and the batteries of the Red Hill, also of royal construction. The artillery support of the bridgehead was also carried out by 180-305 mm railway artillery batteries. Soviet-built and other ships of the KBF.
And for coal volunteers, on the Lake Ladoga the patrol ship Constructor, the former Siberian shooter, acted.

[Nikolai Korovin]

The Sevastopol batteries, the Transsib and many thousands of kilometers of railways, Romanov-on-Murman - are also all the fruits of the activity of the mediocre Nikolashka. Recently, they have not been pushing too hard on bloodiness, more on mediocrity. Here in aviation - I write to one figure that "Ilya Muromets" is a completely unique unit for its time, only by the end of the war the British had something like that. Answers: and his engines were under an English license, so this is no achievement! He is a great patriot of Soviet science and technology, but he completely denies Russian science. How much noise was around Turksib in due time! ("Eastern Highway"). Of course, it is a large and strategically important road, but it cannot be compared with the Transsib. However, after the devastation, this was very important.

[starshina]

He raised the dough on military contracts the tidbit ...

[Shadow shooter]

Good news. And by the way, today the Minister of Defense of the country Shoigu is celebrating his 65th birthday. S.K. Congratulations

[tlauicol]

Why run it without a gearbox? How to mount everything afloat? Free the slipway and wait for the weather by the sea? No matter how he ends up like "Indian" frigates

[alexmach]

And who actually said about "no gear" then? Once they let the water down, the power plant is already installed on it.

[tlauicol]

The "Indians" were also released ...

[alexmach]

Do not confuse warm with soft. The Hindus were "let down" out of desolation without being able to finish building. No one would have launched this ship without a power plant and no one would have laid new ones if it were not for the certainty that they could finish building them.

[alexmach]

Heck, some strange news has come today

After launching on the frigate, completion work will be carried out, including on the ship’s hull and electrical installation, installation of ship systems, power plant systemsmechanical equipment

Are you right and they were let down with an incomplete GEM?

[next322]

Severnaya Verf "signed contracts with NPO Saturn for the supply of gas turbine engines for frigates of Project 22350." The Rybinsk enterprise successfully coped with the task set by the state, and was able to master and organize the production of completely new gas turbine engines of the necessary technical parameters in a fairly short time. But so far there is a gap in the production chain from Saturn to Severnaya Verf. It consists in delaying the construction of gearboxes for these gas turbine engines. Gearbox manufacturer Zvezda has serious problems. "

[alexmach]

The installation batch was made back in 2018 ...

[alexmach]

Hmm .. read the latest news, google where you quoted the text and was very surprised ...

[Grits]

Quote: Tlauicol

No matter how he ends up like "Indian" frigates

By the way, nothing is heard about their fate. Where are they going?

[starshina]

For scrap metal ...

[Orkraider]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Tlauicol

No matter how he ends up like "Indian" frigates

By the way, nothing is heard about their fate. Where are they going?

Welcome.
To India, all three. At first, our friends wanted to take only two, but then they bargained. The contract for 4 frigates, yes, are built in Russia from the existing backlog, two in India, at their shipyards. The third building is transported to India and is being completed there.

[Piramidon]

The launch of the newest frigate is scheduled for May 22.

Pah-pah, so as not to jinx it and not learn about the next postponement.