Gold of the party


Hypothetical gold and currency funds of the CPSU, supposedly disappeared after the collapse of the Soviet Union, have not yet been found. Let’s say right away, it will be about a completely different “gold”, which also mysteriously disappeared ... It's about people, members of one of the largest party in the world.


It is known that the strength of the Communist Party of the USSR throughout almost its entire stories only increased - until 1989 inclusively. By the mid-1980s, the CPSU was the second largest political organization in the world (second only to the party in the PRC). It must be emphasized that almost all officers of our army and fleet were communists and Komsomol members.


By 1990, the number of the CPSU was more than 19 million people, that is, approximately every 15th resident of the USSR was a communist (for 293 million people).

This is just about those who “spent their lives in battle, who defended a great idea”, about our communists, many of whom became former and who are many in the new party in power, directly in the ranks of the government.

It is no secret that this was not hidden anywhere, including by the president himself, that he was a member of the CPSU, a KGB colonel.

What makes up the foundation of our government, the foundation of famous people in power?

Here is just a small list of those who are now in sight, in the power of capitalist Russia, and for whom faith in communism, as it turns out, has been replaced by faith in capitalism.

Our two first persons in the Russian Federation.

1. President Vladimir Putin has been a member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union since 1975.

2. Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin: accessible sources indicate only that he worked as a secretary of the Komsomol committee (it is understood that he was a member of the CPSU).

Next.

Matvienko: member of the CPSU since 1972.
Naryshkin: member of the CPSU since 1976.
Medvedev: member of the CPSU since 1986
Shoigu: member of the CPSU since 1979.
Lavrov: member of the CPSU since 1972.
Sobyanin: member of the CPSU since 1986.
Bortnikov: member of the CPSU since 1975.
Seagull: member of the CPSU since 1976.
Sechin: member of the CPSU since 1990.
Chubais: member of the CPSU since 1980.
Siluanov: member of the CPSU since 1989.
Volodin: member of the CPSU since 1985.
Surkov: member of the CPSU since 1985.
Golikova: member of the CPSU since 1986.
Zorkin: member of the CPSU since 1970.

Our first president of Russia, comrade Mr. Yeltsin Boris Nikolaevich, was also a member of the CPSU (since 1961). He not only defiantly left the party, but even banned the CPSU in 1991, the party was considered illegal for about a year.

How did white turn black and black white? And the main, albeit rhetorical question: can communists be former at all, if they were real communists, can a great idea die, to which a communist should be betrayed for life?

Gold of the party

In fact, no one was forced to join the party under torture, this was a voluntary affair, the choice was deliberate. So where did the millions of “builders of communism” go, how did they suddenly become different? Or not suddenly?

Nobody pulled publicly burning party cards under torture.


There is such a thing - a renegade. Literally a renegade (lat. Renegatus, from renego - “I renounce”) - a person who has transferred from one religion to another; figuratively, this is a person who has betrayed his convictions and transferred to the camp of opponents, becoming an apostate, a traitor.

Yesterday, man was a faithful Leninist, he was for the Soviet Union, for partnership, collectivism, and today he is already for individualism, for a consumer society, private property, capitalism ...

What, socialism was utopia, idle chatter? No, it was socialism that allowed the USSR to become a nuclear power (after 27 years) and a cosmic superpower (another 8 years later), completely eliminating illiteracy, technological backwardness and dependence, and creating a new pole of power on the planet. The Soviet Union is no more. But on March 17, 1991, an All-Union referendum was held, which raised the question of preserving the Soviet Union. The people voted in favor (from a minimum of 70,2% in the Ukrainian SSR to 97,9% in the Turkmen SSR). Those who voted in favor were stupid, did not understand the delights of capitalism?

Our current president once said: “He who does not regret the collapse of the USSR has no heart. And the one who wants to restore it in its previous form does not have a head. ” By the way, Vladimir Vladimirovich also declared the impossibility of the revival of socialism in Russia, highlighting only “sociality” in capitalism. This is interesting both in terms of building a kind of “social capitalism”, and about the “head”.

I really want to understand such metamorphoses, in the end, this directly affects every citizen of the Russian Federation, especially when “sociality” is manifested in raising the retirement age, in reductions and “optimizations” of various areas of our lives. Moreover, modern Russia is notable for one of the highest taxes in the world “on the poor”, with at the same time the most sparing taxation “for the rich” (otherwise, they say, they will go into the shadows). Maybe all “sociality” here is only for the rich, and is there really “no head” for those who recall social security in the USSR, want to revive it?

I would like to understand where so many former "communists" come from and where many ordinary people have longing for the USSR. What could be the reason?

One of Lenin's latest works, “Better Less, Better” (March 1923), was dedicated to staff selection: quality is more important than a large number.

“Cadres decide everything!” (I.V. Stalin). It is quite possible to correlate with the theme of the quality of morality and devotion to ideas, reliability. It must be understood that the “extensive building of communism”, where they hoped to replace quality with numbers, to buy devotion to the idea with separate special rations, was the cause of the collapse.

Naturally, it was not without the influence of the West, which excelled in advertising and propaganda.

Everything has a beginning and an end, and perhaps it was necessary to go through what the peoples of the former Soviet Union went through. In any case, world capitalism has cast off its sheep's skins, has shown its true identity.

The same Gorbachev was deceived, outplayed by political cheaters of the West, who have no equal in hypocrisy, hypocrisy and duplicity. What was worth, for example, their word not to expand NATO east? Hope for peaceful coexistence with the West, cooperation turned out to be an illusion. Our politicians trusted the antipode of the Soviet system, the mortal enemy, who, pretending to be a fighter for democracy, saw the Russians and the Soviet people in general only as servants, and the country as a dependent raw materials appendage.

Having believed the advertising gloss of the West, many ordinary people also wanted to taste the forbidden fruit. As a result, what the Junkers did not do, the Sneakers did. The Soviet Union fell, fell "formidable in battles without drawing swords, squad." But now there is something to compare.

As has been said more than once, after the COVID-19 pandemic there will be no former world. In essence, capitalism itself has already become a planetary virus, devouring resources and corrupting society. For the sake of preserving power and profits, capitalism is ready for any, most heinous crimes. Will humanity be able to continue living under the morale of consumers and the cult of money, hope for a bright future? ..

Such conclusions suggest themselves. It’s also very interesting to know how many true communists remain ...
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  1. Vitaly Tsymbal 22 May 2020 10: 09 New
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    Text of the Communist Code of Ethics:
    - devotion to the cause of communism, love for the socialist homeland, for the countries of socialism;
    - conscientious work for the benefit of society: he who does not work does not eat;
    - everyone's concern for maintaining and enhancing the public domain;
    - high awareness of public duty, intolerance to violations of public interests;
    - collectivism and comradely mutual assistance: each for all, all for one;
    - humane relations and mutual respect between people: man to man - friend, comrade and brother;
    - honesty and truthfulness, moral purity, simplicity and modesty in public and personal life;
    - mutual respect in the family, concern for raising children;
    - Intransigence to injustice, parasitism, dishonesty, careerism, money-grubbing;
    - friendship and brotherhood of all the peoples of the USSR, intolerance of national and racial hostility;
    - Intransigence to the enemies of communism, the cause of peace and freedom of peoples;
    “Fraternal solidarity with the working people of all countries, with all peoples.”

    "CRESTOMATY FOR THE MARXIST-LENIN PHILOSOPHY", Moscow, 1962, v.3, p. 97
    1. Civil 22 May 2020 10: 21 New
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      Degraded generation of the damned born in 1931-1973. scoured the USSR. A finger did not hit a finger to preserve medicine, education, the army ... the oil army was not able to save the oil directly.

      And your vile decision doomed the veterans of the Great Patriotic War to poverty and death in the 90s and 00s.
      1. Stas157 22 May 2020 11: 30 New
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        Is Putin a Communist? A good communist who serves the oligarchs! This is not a communist, but a traitor to the bright communist idea. The one whom he vowed to serve wholeheartedly.

        Matvienko: member of the CPSU since 1972.
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        Medvedev: member of the CPSU since 1986
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        Sobyanin: member of the CPSU since 1986.
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        Seagull: member of the CPSU since 1976.
        Sechin: member of the CPSU since 1990.
        Chubais: member of the CPSU since 1980.
        Siluanov: member of the CPSU since 1989.
        Volodin: member of the CPSU since 1985.
        Surkov: member of the CPSU since 1985.
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        That's why the USSR collapsed! Because of such "communists."

        The Stalinist purges of the ranks ceased, so immediately everything was covered with weeds.
        1. Old partisan 22 May 2020 12: 52 New
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          Great hit list. Still to supplement and in business. With traitors the only way.
          1. Sling cutter 22 May 2020 12: 58 New
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            Quote: Old Partisan
            Great hit list. Still to supplement and in business. With traitors the only way.

            Colleague! For these, only a rope, even soap is superfluous.
            Threat. I am embarrassed to ask, is this not the Partisan who loves the Picnic group very much? wink And whose awl is bungling? bully
            1. Old partisan 23 May 2020 07: 44 New
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              I also like a picnic, like most rockers of the 80-90s. there is something to listen to. Yes, and texts with meaning.
              I didn’t wear sewing. I can do it with my hands.
              And partisans have been my call sign since ancient times.
        2. Svarog 22 May 2020 14: 14 New
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          this is just a list of American saboteurs. With the help of which the Union was collapsed. But the list is far from complete.
        3. Roman123567 22 May 2020 14: 23 New
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          Article about Party Gold ..
          And the list contains one party dung ..
          1. lelik613 29 May 2020 06: 52 New
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            The famous play on words: "gold" is golden.
        4. Easyrider 23 May 2020 10: 07 New
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          The rhetorical question is how viable is a system that is maintained in working condition only by constant repression.
          1. Aviator_ 23 May 2020 16: 35 New
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            Do you need to weed the garden, or will it be "illegal unjustified repressions against weeds"?
      2. neri73-r 22 May 2020 12: 22 New
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        Quote: Civil
        Degraded generation of the damned born in 1931-1973. scoured the USSR.

        What does the generation as a whole have to do with it? Questions to the elite, which since the Khrushchev began to degenerate. Everything is correctly described in the article - quality was replaced by quantity, devotion by rations.
        1. Nikolai Korovin 22 May 2020 18: 59 New
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          Khrushchev in advance began to select personnel for himself and eliminate competitors. It is enough to recall the "Leningrad affair." Zhdanov, who played a huge organizational role during the war, was saved only by a premature death. He was strictly forbidden to confuse this matter. Of course, by the end of the 40s, Stalin surrendered greatly, and in advance the fight of the bulldogs under the carpet went. It was not industry commanders who took the upper hand — they were all in the party and in the Central Committee as well, but the varnishes led by Khrushchev. Even before the death of Stalin. Malenkov, who tried to act in the spirit of diminishing the role of the party, easing the situation of collective farmers, and continuing to develop cooperatives, quickly lost ground, and in 1957 he joined the “anti-party clique” and was completely removed. Meanwhile, perhaps Malenkov was for some time the most popular among the people, especially in the countryside. But Khrushchev’s demagogy misled many.
      3. Vitaly Tsymbal 22 May 2020 13: 42 New
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        Vadim, well, at least you would change the words in places in the text))) And then, like a parrot))) And from komenta to koment the same thing)))) Better a boy go to a psychiatrist .... Such as you, bye as well as those who organized provocations on sites with the "Immortal Regiment" this year, as soon as they take you for ..., quickly put them in pants and cry loudly ...
        1. Civil 23 May 2020 10: 48 New
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          Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
          Vadim, well, at least you would change the words in places in the text))) And then, like a parrot))) And from komenta to koment the same thing)))) Better a boy go to a psychiatrist .... Such as you, bye as well as those who organized provocations on sites with the "Immortal Regiment" this year, as soon as they take you for ..., quickly put them in pants and cry loudly ...

          Is it true that my eyes are burning?)) Such as I, after you will try to launder all this and bring them into a human kind.) My ancestors are both in the Immortal regiment.
          1. Vitaly Tsymbal 23 May 2020 12: 45 New
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            Fortunately, there are only a few such young people, I talk a lot with children and youth. And in their future, they see themselves not as washing and cleaning bucket, but as creators of a new and bright one, taking with them to the future the best of the experience of past generations ... but each has its own way)))) to build bright for someone, and then - to live his whole life in the middle of shit, because he doesn’t see anything else .... And about the truth, you don’t know it, you know about the truth that you have been poured into your “ears” by those who give good as shit, and shit for good ... So they poured into us at the end of the 80s, and we believed, unfortunately ..... But they wiser over time, but you still have to grow wiser and this is encouraging.
            PS By the way - about the "Immortal Regiment", I am one of the founders (you can look at the constituent documents), so that you and this popular movement will try to launder ????
    2. Malyuta 22 May 2020 10: 29 New
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      Lenin warned of degenerates and opportunists in the party, Stalin cleared the ranks as he could, but after his death the "nomenclature" began to prevail, and we all know the result.
    3. Basil50 22 May 2020 14: 20 New
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      the author of a lot of things * wound * in a modern style. He especially succeeded in replacing concepts. Bravo. American * Continuing education courses * in the style of Goebels' covenants did not disappear in vain.
    4. stroybat ZABVO 22 May 2020 15: 56 New
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      B7 greetings from Argentina.
      They interview me here “sometimes”, I’m an artist :), and they ask, often again, to tell me something bad about the USSR, about life in the Soviet Union, I always reply that I was born and raised in the Golden Time of the Soviet Union and was happy.
      And, if they want "Chernukha", let them look for some anti-adviser ................
      And when this example is given to me, these disgusting "party card burners", and they ask, they say, and where are they now, the former "communists"?
      Remembering that my ancestors, on the maternal side, came to Russia in the 13th century, one of them became the founder of the monastery and a saint, the other, in the 16th century, as governor, put his signature in the letter when the first Romanov became king .. .... Another ancestor, on the paternal side, in the 18th century received a medal from Peter the Great for bravery in the Battle of Poltava ....... My paternal grandfather was the chairman of the collective farm and the Communist, my maternal grandfather went all the Great Patriotic, to Berlin, as a simple Soldier ......... I answer that my Ancestors did not burn the Church and the Icon, but also did not demolish the Monuments to Lenin and Stalin.
      1. stroybat ZABVO 22 May 2020 23: 35 New
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        And here we must recall my former test .....
        He was in Chernivtsi, western Ukraine, he wrote poetry about communism, was a party organizer ..... He went to a demonstration with the Red Banner .... And in 1989, he was approached by some kind of “vuyko”, such as “a Hutsul man "and told him that they know that he is a" communist ", but he, my former father-in-law, must burn his ticket ... and what did the" ideological communist "do?
        As one scoundrel said, I have Principles, but if you do not like them, I have others.
        The former father-in-law began to go to the demonstration with the poster “wake up Ukraine, Moskal ziv your tallow” - “wake up Ukraine, Moskal ate your tallow”. He also became a "true Aryan." He told me, said, because he had already stumbled, died, that only one who was born in Ukraine before 1939 can be a Ukrainian .....
        I asked him, and by whom will he write down his grandchildren, my children? He cried, replied that my children should renounce me, then he would write them down as “Ukrainians”, because their father, that is, I, even worse than Russian, I am “semi-Russian”, that is, my mother is Russian, and father is Ukrainian and I’m not even “semi-Ukrainian”, which also has a place to be.
        1. neri73-r 23 May 2020 11: 00 New
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          With such ancestors, why Argentina?
  2. Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 10: 09 New
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    Well, everything was just a graph and showed the transition of quantity into quality with a (-) sign, party degradation.
    1. Vend 22 May 2020 10: 20 New
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      In the destruction of the USSR there are not only external factors, but also internal ones. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. It's a shame of course, because they could have kept the system and allowed people to live. China has proven it. Socialism and business can exist together.
      1. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 11: 14 New
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        Quote: Wend
        In the destruction of the USSR there are not only external factors, but also internal ones. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. It's a shame of course, because they could have kept the system and allowed people to live. China has proven it. Socialism and business can exist together.

        In China, peasants' pensions are much lower than Russian ones. There is not socialism, but post-Maoism. If Mao wrote about the coexistence of different forms of economy, in modern China the ownership of the implements of production of very large companies is in private hands. The country switched from Maoist exports of communism to banal capitalist expansion - the Chinese in Ghana are destroying the environment with their industry, building their own protected villages, etc.
        The only thing left is the power of the CCP.
      2. tihonmarine 22 May 2020 11: 38 New
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        Quote: Wend
        Socialism and business can exist together.

        It may coexist, but it’s hard to imagine that I and other site participants are in the same party cell and are sitting at the party meeting together with Usmanov, Abramovich, and the Rotenberg brothers. And what can we talk about with them, and what are our common party interests, or how to build communism, or how to fill pockets with dollars to these party members. I can’t imagine.
        1. Vadim237 23 May 2020 13: 06 New
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          You will definitely not have anything to talk about with them, but I will have something to talk about in terms of investment in a particular industry and production.
          1. tihonmarine 23 May 2020 13: 24 New
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            Quote: Vadim237
            but I will have about what in terms of investment in a particular industry and production.

            No matter how much you talk to them, they won’t. All of them are goons.
      3. Easyrider 23 May 2020 10: 10 New
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        In China, only party power and slogans remained from socialism.
      4. Starover_Z 30 May 2020 19: 56 New
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        Quote: Wend
        It's a shame of course, because they could save the system and give people the opportunity to live. China has proven it.

        We, just in our majority, do not even know how ordinary Chinese live, who are not in the centers of megalopolises, but in ordinary cities and villages! So what else do you need to find out for, only from whom?
    2. Pavel57 22 May 2020 10: 55 New
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      The party inevitably became one of the mechanisms of the bureaucratic machine with the inevitable internal logic of degeneration.
  3. New Year day 22 May 2020 10: 10 New
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    The Communist Party died at a time when joining it gave the right to preferences of any nature. Those who joined the party during the war had one preference - to be killed first. Today's Communists, with rare exceptions, are opportunists and the chief opportunist is Zyuganov. Oddly enough, but you can be a communist at heart without being a member of the party.
    The idea of ​​the Soviet state will not die, if only because our life has shown what real capitalism of the local spill is. The worse life, the more comparisons with the USSR.
    With regards to ours
    top officials in the Russian Federation.

    1. President Vladimir Putin has been a member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union since 1975.

    2. Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin: accessible sources indicate only that he worked as a secretary of the Komsomol committee (it is understood that he was a member of the CPSU).

    and further

    then these are classic examples of renegades and degenerates.
    1. knn54 22 May 2020 10: 22 New
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      I repeat: "The Bolsheviks saw Lenin alive, and the Communists saw him in a tomb."
      Mao was right when he did regular cleanings. Stalin did not have time.
      Most of the REAL Communists and Komsomol members died during the Second World War.
      And who does not sink, I think everyone knows.
      1. Malyuta 22 May 2020 10: 31 New
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        Quote: knn54
        Most of the REAL Communists and Komsomol members died during the Second World War.

        Absolutely agree with you. hi
      2. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 11: 06 New
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        Quote: knn54
        Mao was right

        Well, here you can argue, from Mao the head of the collective farm is like a sparrow, he almost ruined the country
    2. Nasrat 22 May 2020 10: 37 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      The Communist Party died at a time when joining it gave right to preferences any character.
      I agree completely! The oligarchy freezes (does not die, but freezes in anticipation) only during tyranny ... The nomenclature of the USSR from the 60s and already to the 80s - the heyday - this is the oligarchy.
      Quote: Silvestr
      Today's Communists, with rare exceptions, are opportunists and the chief opportunist is Zyuganov.
      They are eager to go to the feeders, like everyone else, but they are looking for easy ways - proclaimed old slogans (and you don’t have to come up with anything!) - and you are at the feeder

      Quote: Silvestr
      Oddly enough, but you can be a communist at heart without being a member of the party ..

      Even at the end of the 80s - I saw true communists ... now I have not met one, not by their thoughts, and most importantly not by their actions ... no, of course, it's nice to speak and think correctly - there are a lot of these .. but follow in practice - this is different. I have not seen, now, in our days, not a single communist of affairs !.
      Quote: Silvestr
      The idea of ​​the Soviet state will not die, if only because our life has shown what real capitalism of the local spill is. The worse life, the more comparisons with the USSR.
      .

      People tend to forget the bad, leaving only the good in their memories, especially if it was youth ... if in the late 70s Jews massively yearned for Israel and the United States - (sure sign No. 1 - a sharpie is planned ... 2. Andropov is not accidental began to drive loafers in broad daylight wink ) - it means that the country’s problems were serious, but everything rolled over until it fell apart ... In fact, they didn’t deal with the country ..
      Longing remained only at the end of the 70s and the beginning of the 80s .. - when the people did not strain, the party did not strain, in general the whole country did not strain ... it corrupts and leaves pleasant memories ...
      1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 10: 52 New
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        Andropov is one of the organizers of the transformation of the USSR into a capitalist state with the appropriation of national property. All reformers left his laboratories.
        1. Nasrat 22 May 2020 10: 59 New
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          Quote: Pavel57
          Andropov is one of the organizers of the transformation of the USSR into a capitalist state with the appropriation of national property. All reformers left his laboratories.

          I don’t argue with that ... it's a fact! As well as the fact that he drove the population from cinemas, shops, from the streets ... - well, he understood the problem of increasing labor productivity, improving discipline, etc. - the people frankly scored on their duties at that time ... and the party members no longer there were levers of influence on the population, except to assign a policeman to each employee ... - this is the same fact .. as well as the fact that the population was dragging from factories, factories, collective farms, etc. - all that was bad, even sayings appeared. .. it’s easier to drain gas than to account for it - was it? It was! ... A plant for simply could buy equipment for currency and leave rot in the open air - a fact? fact! They attributed the cotton harvest to millions of tons, for many years - a fact? fact! such facts are the sea .. All these moments are trivial and put together a puzzle ...
          1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 11: 02 New
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            Well, 40 years have passed, and the threat of losing a job is stronger than the assigned police officer.
        2. tihonmarine 22 May 2020 11: 53 New
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          Quote: Pavel57
          All reformers left his laboratories.

          Gorbachev left without a laboratory, as the first experimental link, Kalugin and Sobchak and his comrades (from accomplices) sent for an internship at Columbia University (Former colleague O.D. Kalugin Alexander Sokolov in his book “The CIA Supercrot in the KGB. 35 years of spying on General Oleg Kalugina ”reports that the“ leading ”, curated by agent Kalugin was the director of the CIA William Colby himself) these were already“ chicks from the laboratory ”, and how many of them there were then no one knew, but they did their dirty job.
    3. sergo1914 22 May 2020 11: 27 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      Today's Communists, with rare exceptions, are opportunists and the chief opportunist is Zyuganov.


      There on the list above Sechin. He is definitely ideological. 100%.
    4. tihonmarine 22 May 2020 11: 41 New
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      Quote: Silvestr
      Oddly enough, but you can be a communist at heart without being a member of the party.

      In the words of I.V. Stalin "Unpatriotic Communist."
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        Pug 22 May 2020 11: 45 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Silvestr
        Oddly enough, but you can be a communist at heart without being a member of the party.

        In the words of I.V. Stalin "Unpatriotic Communist."

        And Stalin said in 1945 "I am Russian, of Georgian origin .." I take off my hat, in front of him! hi
        Russophobes would be worth reading, of all stripes ..
        The idea was in the souls of Vlad and faith! Therefore, they broke the ridge of fascism and made the country even more powerful.
        The USSR went down in history as a social state and a creative country!
        1. tihonmarine 22 May 2020 12: 22 New
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          Russophobes would be worth reading, of all stripes.

          I support! But Russophobes have already begun their work, drooling already.
  4. Andrey VOV 22 May 2020 10: 11 New
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    Was the author of the article himself a communist or a Komsomol member?
    1. ccsr 22 May 2020 10: 42 New
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      Quote: Andrey VOV
      Was the author of the article himself a communist or a Komsomol member?

      Most likely the ordinary heir to Korotich. And he has little knowledge of the material - Putney was not a KGB colonel, and in 1991 the number of the CPSU was 16,5 million people. These 16,5 million people were not renegades - mostly part of the political elite turned out to be corrupt, and as for the rest of the party, its construction itself did not make it possible to remove its leaders from the political scene without a plot or upheaval. This was the trouble of our CPSU - too many people believed it after the Great Patriotic War and post-war achievements in rebuilding the country. This was used by different crooks who, in different ways, made their way to the top of power, which was the reason for the collapse of the USSR.
      1. Per se. 22 May 2020 11: 45 New
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        Quote: ccsr
        Most likely the ordinary heir to Korotich. Yes, and he poorly owns material
        I did not want to participate in the discussion, the article is a personal opinion, not a defense of a dissertation, but I will make one exception. Firstly, it was not 1991 that was indicated, but 1990 according to the text (more than 19 million people). Secondly, in the KGB, Putin was first awarded the title "major", and then "lieutenant colonel". Vladimir Putin left the organs with the rank of lieutenant colonel of the reserve; by the 2000 presidential election he became a colonel.

        About the "ordinary heir to Korotich," let it be on your conscience.

        For those who read the text of the article more carefully, they should apologize for the typo, not the "Junkers", but the "Junkers."
        1. ccsr 22 May 2020 12: 00 New
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          Quote: Per se.
          Firstly, it was not 1991 that was indicated, but 1990 according to the text (more than 19 million people).

          Those. you are biased in choosing material from our history, and present it as the ultimate fact. And why the number of the CPSU, for example, was not taken in 1953?
          Quote: Per se.
          Vladimir Putin left the organs with the rank of lieutenant colonel of the reserve,

          This is the last rank that he achieved during his service, i.e. according to him, we can assume that he achieved as a member of the CPSU.
          Quote: Per se.
          for the 2000 presidential election, he became a colonel.

          We and Zhirinovsky linden colonel, and the CPSU in 2000 did not exist, so do not juggle this title, especially since it was not given to the KGB of the USSR.
          Quote: Per se.
          About the "ordinary heir to Korotich," let it be on your conscience.

          The general subtext of the article led me to this idea, so my conscience here can hardly serve as an excuse for you in the selection of material.
          1. Per se. 22 May 2020 12: 46 New
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            And why the number of the CPSU, for example, was not taken in 1953?
            Because not in 1953 there was a maximum number and not this time was the time of the collapse of the country. Here, 1990, the last full year of the USSR, just with the maximum number of members of the CPSU, and in 1991, the collapse, which ended in the death of the USSR, had already begun.
            Quote: ccsr
            so do not juggle with this title, especially since it was not given in the KGB of the USSR.
            I’d like to say, excuse me, “Ukrainian obstinacy” ... Vladimir Putin served in the KGB? Yes, served. Received the title of "Colonel"? Yes, I received. As a member of the CPSU was. Of course, the “KGB colonel” is in many ways figurative, if it is easier for anyone, let him be at least a KGB captain, FSB colonel (or other structure).
            Quote: ccsr
            so my conscience here can hardly serve as an excuse for you in the selection of material.
            Your conscience in the selection of material has nothing to do with it. All the best.
            1. ccsr 22 May 2020 13: 03 New
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              Quote: Per se.
              Here, 1990, the last full year of the USSR, just with the maximum number of members of the CPSU, and in 1991, the collapse, which ended in the death of the USSR, had already begun.

              In 1990, various crooks fled from the CPSU, and demonstratively, to head other political parties or movements, which is why the true members of the party should not be considered by scum, but by those who remained in the ranks in 1991. But of course this approach will not suit you - it will be more difficult for you to justify your manipulation of numbers. By the way, you called the population of the USSR at 293 million people, although such a figure is not officially mentioned anywhere, and the 1989 census pointed to the figure of 286 million people. Where did the firewood come from?
              Quote: Per se.
              . Vladimir Putin served in the KGB? Yes, served. Received the title of "Colonel"? Yes, I received.

              No need to fantasize - he left the KGB with the rank of lieutenant colonel:
              According to Putin, he twice filed a report on dismissal from the organs of the KGB of the USSR in the 1990s after moving to work in the mayor's office of Leningrad. On August 20, 1991, during a speech by A. A. Sobchak against the GKChP, Putin wrote a report on his dismissal from the KGB.


              Quote: Per se.
              Of course, the "KGB colonel" is largely figurative,

              Well, your artistic images have nothing to do with facts, so you need to warn readers about this when writing articles about someone.
        2. Andrey VOV 22 May 2020 12: 57 New
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          But they didn’t answer the question: were you a member of the CPSU or the Komsomol?
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            And the question was not answered
            Andrey, why do you need this? Above, Sylvester wrote in a comment, “Oddly enough, you can be a communist at heart without being a member of the party.” Is this not enough? If I answer a little, I took the military oath in June 1979, which I still remember. And, yes, like many of my army comrades, I was a member of the Komsomol. As for the party, I thought that such a gouge, like me, was not worth it. In general, your question is personal, which is not related to the opinion in the article. Close this topic.
      2. depressant 22 May 2020 12: 49 New
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        I would compare the USSR, starting from the Khrushchev era, with the broad river of time along which members of the CPSU sailed each on its own raft. The Central Committee of the CPSU and the Politburo had a common, well-equipped raft with an observation tower, and many had an aim for personal well-being. The nearest sailors saw this, out of selfish interests they tried to stay close. Some managed to get attached to the "leading" raft, thereby expanding its area, which means strengthening buoyancy. From the tower of the "leading" raft, it was noticeable that time-river is increasingly acquiring a very attractive oil color. Honest communists modestly and principally sailed from behind, away, did not make attempts to become attached to the "leader", remaining alone with their own convictions and the belief that the "leading" raft knew where it was sailing. They did not catch the pollution of the river of time by the mercenary color of oil. Only a slowdown was felt and uncomfortable questions arose. And the “leaders” lived their own lives, gradually coming to the thought: “What for us are those that are behind? The need to adjust the direction according to their perplexity is annoying! Let's turn right into this channel - there, of course, a steep waterfall, which we can see, and they don’t, but behind it is the oil sea with an attractive color of personal wealth.We will successfully survive the waterfall due to the strength of the combined raft, and those that are behind, choked in a viscous liquid, will die, and we will finally get rid from eternal bewilderment in their eyes and this annoying “Camo is coming?” So they did. They survived. They reign, swimming in the seas of oil. And the real Communists, because of party discipline strictly following the “leaders,” lost their raft party cards (they drowned) and either disappeared into the abyss of a crooked muddy time. with an oil and bloody color, or somehow floundering in its turbidity until now, gradually and slowly going to the bottom.
    2. Pug
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      Quote: Andrey VOV
      Was the author of the article himself a communist or a Komsomol member?

      Yes, even a pioneer, but he wrote well .. There is something to ponder, especially the "former communists and Komsomol members" in power (especially those who sit in London, etc.) .. To whom and what they owe! hi
  5. prior 22 May 2020 10: 23 New
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    Alas, I have to admit, Russia is a country of traitors to the Soviet Union led by traitors.
    1. Akuzenka 22 May 2020 10: 42 New
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      I can not agree. And from a legal and moral point of view, you are absolutely right.
    2. Pavel57 22 May 2020 10: 50 New
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      Nicholas II also threw off the environment, which swore allegiance to him.
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        Nicholas II also threw off the environment, which swore allegiance to him.

        Also, it's like, who else? repeat request
        1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 11: 17 New
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          In the Romanov dynasty, there are enough such examples. Betrayal of "Khrushchev" (and in fact the entire elite - the former associates of Stalin) will be considered?
  6. sabakina 22 May 2020 10: 27 New
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    Hypothetical gold and currency funds of the CPSU, supposedly disappeared after the collapse of the Soviet Union, have not yet been found.
    Kolchak's gold is gone. The NSDAP gold is gone. CPSU gold is gone. An interesting property of gold however ...
    1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 10: 48 New
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      Kolchak’s gold did not disappear, it was distributed between the banks of Japan, the Czech Republic and the USA,
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        Kolchak’s gold did not disappear, it was distributed between the banks of Japan, the Czech Republic and the USA,

        Was it Kolchak's gold? belay
    2. Nasrat 22 May 2020 10: 48 New
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      Quote: sabakina
      Hypothetical gold and currency funds of the CPSU, supposedly disappeared after the collapse of the Soviet Union, have not yet been found.
      Kolchak's gold is gone. The NSDAP gold is gone. CPSU gold is gone. An interesting property of gold however ...

      Well, the gold of the CPSU did not disappear ... as it was spinning during the Union in offshore, it is still spinning ..
      1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 11: 04 New
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        Suslov was not engaged in ideology, but in the party’s external accounts.
    3. ccsr 22 May 2020 10: 50 New
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      CPSU gold is gone.

      This is a myth - if it weren’t for our special services, then foreign ones would be sure, because there has been no banking secrecy for thirty years now. It’s just that not everyone knows that we provided financial support to many communist parties and movements, to put it mildly without advertising it, that’s what they call “party gold”.
      1. sabakina 22 May 2020 10: 54 New
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        Did you find the German "golden" train?
        1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 11: 05 New
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          The Germans brought gold to Switzerland, and after the war it worked for the restoration of Germany, in the first it, and not the Marshall plan.
          1. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 11: 20 New
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            The Germans brought gold to Switzerland, and after the war it worked for the restoration of Germany, in the first it, and not the Marshall plan.

            First of all, their brains, mentality and hands worked to restore Germany. Then the Marshall plan - grandmas they were given less than the less destroyed francs and shavers. As for gold - I haven’t read it anywhere.
            1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 11: 26 New
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              There is a judgment that since 1943 the aim of the German war was to hold out for the export of values ​​to Switzerland. They coped with this task. And the plan / Marshall gave less than 20% of the amount spent on rebuilding Germany.
              1. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 11: 45 New
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                Quote: Pavel57
                There is a judgment that since 1943 the aim of the German war was to hold out for the export of values ​​to Switzerland. They coped with this task. And the plan / Marshall gave less than 20% of the amount spent on rebuilding Germany.

                I haven’t read this anywhere, but I read a lot about how to restore Germany.
                1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 11: 48 New
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                  Krasnodar, if I find a link to you personally I will drop it.
                  1. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 11: 49 New
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                    Yes, you can in PM, thank you in advance hi
        2. ccsr 22 May 2020 11: 23 New
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          Did you find the German "golden" train?

          And was he? Or is it from the series that the Germans allegedly in 1945 approached the creation of the atomic bomb.
      2. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 11: 04 New
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        . It’s just that not everyone knows that we provided financial support to many communist parties and movements, to put it mildly, without advertising it.

        well, actually, nobody makes this secret
        Quote: ccsr
        because there has been no banking secrecy for thirty years now.

        True, the party’s assets are of an older origin, and no one has opened accounts from the NAME of the CPSU, if they are certainly not to members of the Central Committee or the Politburo, in addition, it’s not only money, but also precious metals and drag stones in cells , it is possible that stocks, etc.
        1. ccsr 22 May 2020 11: 34 New
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          well, actually, nobody makes this secret

          They don’t make secrets - just not everyone knows the extent of this. For example, the publication of millions of copies of the works of Lenin and Marx in almost all languages ​​of the peoples of the world, or the books of Brezhnev - it all came out pretty much. Or the preparation of partisans for work in Latin America - you can’t prescribe it in the budget, and the party’s money was used.
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          if they are, then certainly not the members of the Central Committee or the Politburo,

          That's for sure - they generally could only make some general decisions, and technically, completely different people were engaged in this.
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          in addition, it is not only money but also precious metals and precious stones in cells, it is quite possible that stocks, etc.

          If by and large, the only currency was the US currency, and therefore it is unprofitable to associate with various other values ​​in the operational plan.
          1. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 12: 11 New
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            Quote: ccsr
            about running was only the US currency

            do not tell me, in Africa they brought pants
            1. ccsr 22 May 2020 12: 22 New
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              do not tell me, in Africa they brought pants

              And then they were carried to the hucksters for resale, in order to get currency for the rebels' salaries? It is doubtful, because such a process could only be in the opposite direction, and even then it is unlikely that the leaders of the CPSU needed to get involved in this, so as not to get into an unpleasant story.
              1. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 12: 50 New
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                And then they were carried to the hucksters for resale, in order to get currency for the rebels' salaries

                what salaries do you say is money of specific princes, rebels received a salary by bananas
                1. ccsr 22 May 2020 13: 13 New
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                  Quote: Barmaleyka
                  what salaries do you say is money of specific princes, rebels received a salary by bananas

                  Well, yes, the Cubans in Angola fought for Fidel’s money - tell this to someone else.
                  1. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 13: 44 New
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                    Quote: ccsr
                    Well, yes, the Cubans in Angola fought for Fidel’s money

                    it’s just that this money appeared after the sale of their cane to us, by the way underestimate the ideological component of the Cubans, and especially do not compare it with blacks from Africa
    4. Mavrikiy 22 May 2020 11: 06 New
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      [quote = sabakina] [quote] Kolchak's gold disappeared. The NSDAP gold is gone. CPSU gold is gone. An interesting property of gold, however ... [/ quote] The philosopher's stone was invented, did not know? Gold turns into debt papers, and itself settles in banks. There is a service, it seems called "Gosrozysk." They are looking for.
  7. Akuzenka 22 May 2020 10: 40 New
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    Can humanity continue to live with consumer morality and the cult of money, hope for a bright future ?.
    Of course he can. Only a very short time, by historical standards.
  8. Pavel57 22 May 2020 10: 47 New
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    The ideas of communism are wonderful, but utopian. In the USSR, the ideologists of communism brought this utopia to the specifics - by 1980. we will live under communism. And after that it is already difficult to talk about faith in a brighter future.
    1. ccsr 22 May 2020 11: 40 New
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      Quote: Pavel57
      The ideas of communism are wonderful, but utopian.

      Then can explain why these ideas allowed the USSR to become the second country in the world, and after its collapse, China, also guided by these ideas, became the first state in terms of GDP?
      Quote: Pavel57
      And after that it is already difficult to talk about faith in a brighter future.

      So the question of your faith is not the main one here - the question is why the countries that built socialism became economically successful, and in a short time. For example, Vietnam, which fought even more than the USSR in the second half of the XNUMXth century, is now becoming one of the leaders in Southeast Asia.
      1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 11: 45 New
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        The question is whether only ideas about a bright future allowed the USSR to make a breakthrough? Is it only communist ideology (which question is in reality) that allowed China to make a breakthrough? Moreover, China is tied with an umbilical cord to the United States.
        1. ccsr 22 May 2020 12: 03 New
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          Quote: Pavel57
          The question is whether only ideas about a bright future allowed the USSR to make a breakthrough?

          What prevented the Russian Empire from becoming the second country in the world in terms of GDP before its collapse?
          Quote: Pavel57
          Moreover, China is tied with an umbilical cord to the United States.

          "Marxism is not a dogma, but a guide to action" - this explains everything in the behavior of the CCP. Even Lenin understood the importance of the NEP — so draw a conclusion on how to build socialism.
          1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 13: 22 New
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            ccsr (ccsr), the Russian Empire was hindered by financial dependence on Britain, in the economic from Germany and political from the Entente.
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              The Russian Empire was hindered by financial dependence on Britain

              Forgot France with its loans.
        2. apro 22 May 2020 12: 07 New
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          The question is whether only ideas about a bright future allowed the USSR to make a breakthrough?

          Not only ... I think this is also economic leverage. Such as national and state ownership of the means of production. Where all surplus value is spent on national needs. To improve the situation of citizens. The foreign trade monopoly eliminates unequal relations with foreign countries. Planned conduct of the Soviet economy. closed financial system.
    2. apro 22 May 2020 11: 46 New
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      In the USSR, the ideologists of communism brought this utopia to the specifics - by 1980. we will live under communism.

      And what bothers you? Economically, IVStalin calculated. Based on the growth rate of the Soviet economy, that the basic material foundations of communism would be created in time for 1980.
      1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 11: 50 New
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        apro (Oleg Frolov), and the population is deeply purple that the leaders consider, if there is no promise, then the whole structure is false.
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          Quote: Pavel57
          if there is no promise, then the whole construction is false

          But does such a population need communism? If everyone brings it on a silver platter, the USSR was a nation-wide state where every citizen is obliged to make efforts to build a common good ...
          1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 12: 00 New
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            apro (Oleg Frolov) - "The USSR was a nation-wide state where every citizen must make efforts to build a common good .."

            This construction didn’t work in preserving the USSR,
  9. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 10: 59 New
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    the same thing happened to the Party in the Great Patriotic War as the French in the First World War - those who were the vanguard died, replaced by the opportunists who had the idea before the bulb
    1. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 11: 24 New
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      Not certainly in that way. The privileged clinics did not give them the same medicine that hospitals accessible to any German workaholic from Germany. An example of Andropov is a kidney, they could extend life in Germany, as they suggested. He refused, because was a decent brow. Therefore, for the republican party elites, the way out was obvious - to break up, make money by privatization - and be treated in the West and instead of the Volga or the Seagull, Mercedes and Maybach and open shopping, etc.
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        Quote: Krasnodar
        An example of Andropov is a kidney, they could extend life in Germany, as they suggested. He refused, because was a decent brow.

        And then decency? The KGB was headed by Andropov, and if he had begun to be treated in the west, there is already a threat .. if there could have been anything done to him! (Andropov’s body was too exhausted by the workaholic, he was too much and started taking care of his health too late, and maybe they helped ..)
        You really praise Western medicine ... We have no worse medicine than in your Israel, we simply do not know how to PR. hi
        1. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 11: 43 New
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          Worse than in Israel, Germany, South Korea, Switzerland and further down the list. Even in the best elite performance (special clinics) at the time of the Union, the only thing that was at a good world level was traumatology. Now everything is normal with regard to vessels - including CABG. Heart valve replacement - problems are already starting.
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            Quote: Krasnodar
            Worse than in Israel, Germany, South Korea, Switzerland and further down the list.

            this is probably why we have a lot of Germans and Baltic states treated in KO
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              Quote: Barmaleyka
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Worse than in Israel, Germany, South Korea, Switzerland and further down the list.

              this is probably why we have a lot of Germans and Baltic states treated in KO

              I remember young guys standing at the assembly line from 8 a.m. to 2 a.m. .. It was something and was not being treated by the elite, although there were deputies (they all teased) and simple welders from the village ..
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Now everything is normal with regard to vessels - including CABG. Heart valve replacement - problems are already starting.

              Valves, pacemakers, etc. they also change, it’s true, but it's free for everything .. In the wards it’s a bit crowded, of course, but they all operate .. and then the sanatoriums, etc. Thanks to the doctors! I thought. That is all Khan. The main thing is to turn in time ..
              And if to the Moses of Israel, then have a couple packs of dollars with you .. (No offense ..)
              I remember one boasting in the ward that for 5 thousand Bakinsky they put up a stand, somewhere .. And the question is, what are you doing here then? Hush up and shut up .. We set him to see the bullshit bullshit ..
              1. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 13: 00 New
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                Valves - depending on how complicated the procedure is. Four months ago, he put a 64-year-old woman near Berlin, yes, a pack. 30 thousand euros plus or minus. Or 2400 rubles. But they didn’t want to change in Bakulev.
                But it was necessary.
                Not put bullshit. It's just that every stent gets clogged. I was immediately put on a heart attack in Russia. I don’t complain too, but sooner or later I will have to do CABG.
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                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Valves - depending on how complicated the procedure is. Four months ago, he put a 64-year-old woman near Berlin, yes, a pack. 30 thousand euros plus or minus. Or 2400 rubles. But they didn’t want to change in Bakulev.

                  Did you personally put Krasnodar? You are like a system programmer and father-in-law your farmer in Russia .. When do you manage to do all this? laughing
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  It's just that every stent gets clogged. I was immediately put on a heart attack in Russia. I don’t complain either, but sooner or later I will have to do CABG.

                  Well, I’m not complaining either .. But you wrote a strange comment, do you bet or not you? You cunning Jew nevertheless .. (no offense))))
                  1. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 13: 47 New
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                    Am I a system programmer? lol
                    I'm a slob. fellow
                    So - three main activities:
                    1) Organization of treatment abroad - Germany (Ruhr, Berlin) and Israel (center of the country)
                    2) Assistance in certification (SGR of Rospotrebnadzor) - dietary supplements, disinfection, special nutrition, paints
                    3) Wholesale trade in vegetables and fruits - father-in-law, mainly a grain. On my topic - only cherry plum and apples from him.
                    Medicine is only an organization. Fast translation of Russian documents, referral to the right doctor in the right clinic and providing escort.
                    When I have time - I hang out on the Internet for days laughing Look at the number of my comments on VO
                    1. Pug
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                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Am I a system programmer? lol
                      I'm a slob

                      You are a Jew who came from Israel and your Russian wife does not want to leave for yours .... Yes, and you, too, are not particularly torn As I understand it)))
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      1) Organization of treatment abroad - Germany (Ruhr, Berlin) and Israel (center of the country)
                      2) Assistance in certification (SGR of Rospotrebnadzor) - dietary supplements, disinfection, special nutrition, paints
                      3) Wholesale trade in vegetables and fruits - father-in-law, mainly a grain. On my topic - only cherry plum and apples from him.

                      Well, you and the cool guy, as it turned out! And before, they were more modest, like a modest IT specialist, well, a little bit, mostly I'm dealing with the family)))))))
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Medicine is only an organization. Fast translation of Russian documents, referral to the right doctor in the right clinic and providing escort.

                      Money, as I understand it? This does not take away from you .. you know ..))
                      "Right doctors" in the world are appreciated, but not always cured ..
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                      When I have time - I hang out on the Internet for days laughing. Look at the number of my comments on VO

                      Yes, Krasnodar has always suspected you a proxy of a Jew ..
                      And so humble were at first, remember? ! Well, I’m looking at VO and you have succeeded in your chatter ..
                      Well, lastly, your favorite with dancing, etc.

                      Rejoice and write complaints .. You know the address!
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                        1) Do not tear))
                        2) Conda, I was an IT specialist - I have three classes, five corridors. laughing
                        3) Money. Of course, they are not always cured - the cases are different.
                        4) For your beloved - thanks good
                        5) I can’t imagine the idiot who should write complaints about you - you’re a drummer of this site, without you it’s not that.
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                        Quote: Pug
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Am I a system programmer? lol
                        I'm a slob

                        You are a Jew who came from Israel and your Russian wife does not want to leave for yours .... Yes, and you, too, are not particularly torn As I understand it)))
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        1) Organization of treatment abroad - Germany (Ruhr, Berlin) and Israel (center of the country)
                        2) Assistance in certification (SGR of Rospotrebnadzor) - dietary supplements, disinfection, special nutrition, paints
                        3) Wholesale trade in vegetables and fruits - father-in-law, mainly a grain. On my topic - only cherry plum and apples from him.

                        Well, you and the cool guy, as it turned out! And before, they were more modest, like a modest IT specialist, well, a little bit, mostly I'm dealing with the family)))))))
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Medicine is only an organization. Fast translation of Russian documents, referral to the right doctor in the right clinic and providing escort.

                        Money, as I understand it? This does not take away from you .. you know ..))
                        "Right doctors" in the world are appreciated, but not always cured ..
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        When I have time - I hang out on the Internet for days laughing. Look at the number of my comments on VO

                        Yes, Krasnodar has always suspected you a proxy of a Jew ..
                        And so humble were at first, remember? ! Well, I’m looking at VO and you have succeeded in your chatter ..
                        Well, lastly, your favorite with dancing, etc.

                        Rejoice and write complaints .. You know the address!

                        It looks like Moska ran into an Elephant. Do not tear Gavkalku dvorterrier. wink
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                      So - three main activities:

                      From boredom of all trades - these are the names of such entrepreneurs in our country.
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                        The main thing is that you calmly count your billions fellow
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                        The main thing is that you calmly count your billions fellow

                        C'mon, he’s a well-known idle talk on military-strategic topics, a booklet consultant and a sought-after patron of the tribune when meeting with his former whispers and inspectors-inspectors.
                      3. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 22: 54 New
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                        Greetings, glad to see on the site! hi
                        When he leaves his pathos; sometimes it writes interesting things)).
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                        Greetings, glad to see on the site! hi
                        When he leaves his pathos; sometimes it writes interesting things)).

                        Greetings, Friend hi He wrote and writes a lot and makes information that can be said to be previously confidential, it’s obvious that Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky doesn’t fall under the fingernail, and that’s how he was checking and revealing shortcomings in the troops, in the Warsaw Pact troops.
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                        Critics in any sphere of life - a special people laughing
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                        Quote: Not bad
                        here are the sketches, as he was a reviewer and revealed shortcomings in the troops, in the groups of troops of the Warsaw Pact.

                        Do not envy me, verbiage - I was doing what was entrusted to me, but what you did in the army, I already understand, since you think that checking it was my main job. But what I learned more than a "connoisseur" like you - I have no doubt about that. I just don’t like it when people like you lie godlessly here - and you have to show people what they are worth.
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                        seen under the nail Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky does not fall,

                        Relax smart guy - all I write about is mainly the Soviet period, and after the collapse of the USSR, everything that related to military secrets is no longer relevant, because a huge number of top-level officers and generals have appeared in Israel, Europe, the United States and in hostile republics former USSR. What kind of Felix Edmundovich are you talking about if the Banderaites and other post-Soviet public have left a huge number of OV stamps, and they have long passed them to foreign intelligence services.
    2. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 12: 53 New
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      This is probably why tens of thousands of Russian citizens are being treated in Israel, Germany, Switzerland and South Korea. hi
      And teeth - yes, a lot of people do in Ukraine, Russia, Belarus.
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        This is probably why tens of thousands of Russian citizens are being treated in Israel, Germany, Switzerland and South Korea.

        and for frequent it’s not a necessity but a show off
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          and for frequent it’s not a necessity but a show off

          Grandmothers are collecting money for children from Israeli and German clinics on TV via SMS - is this a show off? And the five-year survival rate for cancer patients in the Russian Federation is 40%, about 65% in Germany, about 68% in Israel - are also show-offs? Moreover, the equipment on Kashirka and Herzen in Moscow is better than Israeli.
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            Grandmothers are collecting money for children from Israeli and German clinics on TV via SMS - is this a show off?

            and this is just a modern healthcare system
            1. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 13: 51 New
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              According to Israeli and German doctors, immigrants from the Union - modern Russian medicine (not talking about the healthcare system) is better than the USSR. Though he keeps up with the times.
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                According to Israeli and German doctors, immigrants from the Union - modern Russian medicine

                Here the puncture medicine of the USSR sucks, but with e
                that cool medicine in Germany and Israel do ours, after that it’s not funny
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                laughing
                There is such a bike, but this is a myth - there are enough among our therapists, 25-30 percent (among Jews), among specialists 10 percent in Israel, 1,5 percent in Germany. Departments - there is a little bit in Germany, 3-4 percent in Israel. The medicine of both countries has one base - the German beginning of the 20th century. Plus borrowing from the American and Western European. Our people there must relearn and pass an exam.
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                According to Israeli and German doctors, immigrants from the Union

                who is lying?
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                Well, of course, all of them, without exception laughing
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      Pug 22 May 2020 16: 34 New
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      Quote: Krasnodar
      Quote: Barmaleyka


      and for frequent it’s not a necessity but a show off

      Grandmothers are collecting money for children from Israeli and German clinics on TV via SMS - is this a show off? And the five-year survival rate for cancer patients in the Russian Federation is 40%, about 65% in Germany, about 68% in Israel - are also show-offs? Moreover, the equipment on Kashirka and Herzen in Moscow is better than Israeli.

      Are you doing advertising for your business here?
      I understand you rightly. Enough already here to advertise their Jewish schemes ... negative
      I thought you were a normal Jew .. But alas! hi
      All of you, if only to tear off the money and then even advertise yourself .. You do not heal your teeth by chance? laughing
      1. Krasnodar 22 May 2020 19: 58 New
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        laughing such advertising can be found in the public domain on the Internet))
        No i don't do teeth
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    Not certainly in that way. The privileged clinics did not give them the same medicine that hospitals accessible to any German workaholic from Germany.

    what nonsense, it's from the series what bad TVs we had and what good now
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      This is from a series of tales about excellent Soviet medicine. CT in the West appeared in the 70s, laparoscopy in all ashes in the early 80s, in the USSR X-ray, palpation, abdominal surgery - and then we'll see. I’m silent about oncology.
      1. Barmaleyka 22 May 2020 13: 39 New
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        This is from a series of tales about excellent Soviet medicine.

        do not specify if everything is so cool then what happened in the states with the virus? !!!
        and if everything is so bad with us, why haven’t we rested yet?
        Quote: Krasnodar
        full ash laparoscopy in the early 80s

        and that she was in the USSR already in the late 70s (V.S. Savelyev, O.S. Kochnev, V.S. Mayat, Yu.A. Nesterenko)
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          In the States, two things happened to the virus:
          1) Pensioners, i.e. the most vulnerable part of the population, they sit in cafes and travel the world. With us, they are self-isolated without quarantine - a trip to Pyaterochka and the clinic.
          2) Amer's medicine super - health care system - sucks. Everyone decides whether to pay him insurance or not, and public hospitals at the level of our district
          3) In the USSR, the most common method of CABG (vein from the leg) was invented. The question is what was in the masses and what was in the framework of clinical experiments.
          Once again - orthopedic traumatology was good - Elizarov and Co. The rest is sucks.
  • WayKheThuo 22 May 2020 11: 00 New
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    The author of the article asks: "... how many true communists remain?"
    I answer, dear author, there are none left.
    More truly, it is possible that certain true communists live in Russia, but their percentage is extremely small and these people do not play any influence on the social and political life of my country.
    True communists laid their heads on the Civil Front, then undermined their health during the Industrialization, then vomited their lungs in the basements of the Lubyanka, then rose to attack during the Great Patriotic War, then rebuilt the country in the difficult post-war years, and then these people simply ended, finally finished off by the party nomenclature, which perfectly took advantage of the fruits of their labors.
    What did you expect? The survival rate among the real Communists was very low - it is difficult to expect a high percentage of reproduction in the population that is the first to attack, takes on the most difficult and crucial areas of work, takes everything to heart and lives in good conscience.
    You might mistakenly think that the true Communists did everything themselves, alone. Of course not. But they, and this is very important, set the tone, by their own example on the ground, "on the ground" showed people how to live, relate to their work, to their comrades and to their country.
    This was the most unique human material, accumulated over the centuries and for the most part completely completely ineptly wasted by my people somewhere in the mid-60s of the last century.
    And now everything - Danko’s heart went out, trampled into the mud by a crowd of fellow citizens, led by a golden calf to a beautiful life and the best that can be in my country at the moment are just ordinary, decent people fighting for their rights and demanding that the state, in general something existing on their money fulfilled its direct duties.
    I think so.
    1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 11: 06 New
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      It remains to be determined - What is a true communist?
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        It remains to be determined - What is a true communist?

        Why do you need this? For what purpose are you interested in?
        In fact, who is this ...
        1. Pavel57 22 May 2020 13: 23 New
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          about (Oleg Frolov), you use this term, most likely it is something abstract.
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            about (Oleg Frolov), you use this term, most likely it is something abstract.

            Give an example ... I personally do not use this term. For me, either a communist or not.
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              What International are you for? What program documents do you follow?
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      And now everything - Danko’s heart went out, trampled into the mud by a crowd of fellow citizens, led by a golden calf to a beautiful life, and the best,

      Although artistically, it is absolutely correctly described.
    3. Knell wardenheart 22 May 2020 12: 17 New
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      This "True Communist" is a rather abstract thing. The old Bolsheviks fairly polemicized and experimented with things that seemed wildest game 20 years after the revolution. These "true" Stalin chopped, someone for reasons, someone not. They were replaced by “hooray Trudoviks” who did not ask too many questions, which you apparently mean by true Communists. These people were the product of an era of strict selection - they generally represented communism as Comrade Khrushchev - that today we will, and tomorrow we will build carts and plants of corn and everything and there will be at least socialism. They practically did not see bourgeois, except in humorous magazines or carefully selected chronicle. Many (the vast majority) did not speak foreign languages ​​- and this means that they could rub ALL anything about the insidious imperialists - they would swallow. Of course, they were strong and ideologically stable people (with all this) - but they were wrecked by the war, and moreover, they were a generational phenomenon born in a truly closed country, really surrounded by enemies.
      Next we have a generation of front-line Communists, those who joined the party at the final stages of the Second World War, saw Europe, saw how quick decisions were made and made conclusions from this. We are getting conclusions with this generation that have adequately spilled over into the Brezhnevsky Zastoy - these people were leisurely attracted to gigantomania, increasing living standards, stable gerontocracy and actually looking back at the standards of capital countries. This was the last generation, more or less believing in communism, and that was what the propagandists rumbled about. These people are being replaced by comrades of the 1950s, whose youth falls on Brezhnev - there is no longer Hitler and Co., no longer savory bourgeois in like gloves and top hats, the USSR is already a nuclear monster with a mix of khrushchikov and communal apartments in the rear - the focus of attention of this generation comes not on external enemies, but on what they have 40 years after the revolution. They have the opportunity to compare this with how quickly Europe is recovering after BB2. They compare.

      So, perhaps I agree - there are no “communists" left in the current communists. They themselves blurted them out - either by force, or circumstances helped, or ate in peaceful life and undercover struggle, or, finally, did not leave ideological offspring, preferring hunting for tours, beaver hats and departmental sanatoriums to really bring up the shift.
      1. WayKheThuo 22 May 2020 13: 07 New
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        In fact, damn sorry for these people, and at any stage of the USSR. They believed, and most importantly, did everything to “... happiness to everyone and no one left offended,” but those who bashfully cover Lenin’s name during official events are using the fruits of their labors - such a scum.
        Well, the winners or those who thinks they are really writing history - they are trying their best, but the problem is that time puts “all semicolons” in love, and the deeper they try to dig in the past, the clearer it appears on their foreheads a simple inscription "TRAITOR".
        1. Knell wardenheart 22 May 2020 13: 15 New
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          Well, you can acquire dual citizenship, integrate children into Western society, and then in time, in old age and with accumulated funds, roll "there" so that you can yell from there that people eat here, and that you didn’t have the strength to endure, etc.) As they said Yeltsin about his Communist Party past, "I was green then." Who is the first pile on others heaped, that's right. They will understand in the West - and here the censure is already worthless, they have been stigmatized for too long and too long, and then they have endured the most astronomical theft, arrogance and deception for too long, so that our attitude is worth something ...
          Well, probably all these people think so) Kulak thinking as it is)
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            All true.
            But times are changing and other people are coming. These people do not shine with talents and do not possess any very high moral principles. But they want to live on their land and want the state to work for them. And these people will surely ask all these peres and the post of perestroika leaders: "Where is the money, Zin? How does it turn out that you have ruined everything and are now resting" there? "Not well, a mess." And suddenly a brand new mansion of a retired state official is flaming up, and suddenly his child will not be able to open a business here, and suddenly it turns out that the accounts have already been arrested and in general have dug up and dragged such material to the European court that "ah." And this will be a domoclass sword hanging over all generations of traitors until they pay the very specific bills that came in ordinary, completely unremarkable envelopes.
            Time, it is like this - it distributes earrings to all sisters.
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      It seems that everyone should know the saying that revolutions are conceived by geniuses, carried out by fanatics, and crooks use their fruits. That says it all!
  • vladimirvn 22 May 2020 11: 00 New
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    He joined the CPSU sincerely and on convictions, albeit naive. The film "Communist" personified for me the communists. He was then amazed to encounter the backstage of the life of the party nomenclature, there was such an opportunity. Hypocrisy, debauchery, pursuit of benefits, empty slogans, duplicity. Party card and now lies at home. It is painful and insulting for the top of the CPSU, which allowed the collapse of the country. Although if at that time they had said they would go out to barricades to defend the USSR with bare hands, he would have left. Now from the government I am waiting only for a dirty trick and a lie.
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      And people like you were in the vast majority ...
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    They correctly did that in 1991 they slammed down the Jewish project of the destruction of Russia by dissolving it in the amoeba-shaped confederation of CeSeSeR.

    Communist ideology is the tenth case. The main thing is that the Russians (80% of the population of the Russian Federation) dropped ballast in the form of blood-sucking subsidized republics of Ukraine, the Baltic states, Transcaucasia, Central Asia and Kazakhstan. Now rogue marginians, Litvinians, Romanians and others can enter the Russian Federation only on the rights of the subjects of the federation.
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      They correctly did that in 1991 they slammed down the Jewish project of the destruction of Russia by dissolving it in the amoeba-shaped confederation of CeSeSeR.

      But doesn’t it bother that the Russian Empire occupied the territory even more than the USSR? Was it also a project of Jews, Germans or all the same tsarist power? The USSR was a completely successful project, it was simply that our leaders at that time were too primitive to rule such a country, and because of this our economic troubles began, and this ultimately led to a riot in the country's population.
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        Well, you compared - God's gift (unitary Russian empire) with scrambled eggs (Soviet confederation, forcibly created from the RSFSR after winning the Civil War).
        1. IS-80_RVGK2 22 May 2020 21: 57 New
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          What the hell are you talking about. Everyone who did not create a federation or a confederation fell apart safely. And with regards to the distortions in the economy, this is a separate long conversation. And the device of the USSR here certainly played a role in the plan, they wanted the best, but it turned out as always. But other factors played even more.
  • Boris ⁣ Shaver 22 May 2020 11: 13 New
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    I really want to understand such metamorphoses

    It’s easy to understand. It is much more difficult to remember that the stupid belonging of, say, a presidential candidate to a particular party does not at all determine the vector of his future policy in the event he comes to power.
    1. cniza 22 May 2020 16: 49 New
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      Because the parties were one-day ...
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        the parties were one-day

        No, well, the CPSU, of course, against the background of some Republican Party of the United States, is not a long-lived person, but I still would not call it a one-day
        1. cniza 22 May 2020 17: 45 New
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          I meant modern Russia, not the Communist Party ...
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            I meant modern Russia

            So the article is mainly about "immigrants" from the Communist Party.
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              Where are these "natives" now? just in one-day games and "toss".
  • Ross xnumx 22 May 2020 11: 22 New
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    It is no secret that this was not hidden anywhere, including by the president himself, that he was a member of the CPSU, a KGB colonel.

    He was a lieutenant colonel !!!
  • Free wind 22 May 2020 11: 28 New
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    Gorbachev was deceived, oh child unreasonable, And where did you climb, labeled. Where? When the West made promises not to expand NATO to the East, there were no promises. Germany was even ready to withdraw from the alliance for the sake of reunification. But there was not only a demand, but not even such a proposal. So the "astalavist women." When the people first saw Gorbachev. many could not understand who it was with its metine. In the photographs it is then clean.
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      He himself wanted to be deceived and "to the bitch of a woman" is super. good
  • Normal ok 22 May 2020 11: 50 New
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    In fact, no one was forced to join the party under torture, this was a voluntary affair, the choice was deliberate.
    Here the author is cunning. In the USSR, a serious career could be achieved only as a member of the party. You are not a party member — you will not become a chief engineer, or a director of an enterprise, or a diplomat, or a serious journalist, or a regiment commander. About the "organs" generally silent. Therefore, they entered "voluntarily-forcibly."
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      Therefore, they entered "voluntarily-forcibly."


      Then it became a majority and dissolved all ideological communists.
  • 1536 22 May 2020 11: 54 New
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    The party structure was approved at the Second Congress of the RSDLP in 1903. The role and character of the party were also approved at this congress. The Party Program contained the fundamental thesis about the "dictatorship of the proletariat", about the "hegemony" of the proletariat in the revolutionary struggle for (attention) "liberation of Russia", emphasized the proletarian nature of the party and its leading role in the liberation movement in Russia. And although a minority voted in favor of the party’s charter and its program on these points, but V.I. Lenin, through what was now called hardware games, eventually managed to push precisely these formulations, achieving a "majority" in the vote. So the RSDLP was divided into "Mensheviks" and "Bolsheviks."
    Why this historical digression? And then, that by the years 1970-1980 it was no longer a question of either the "dictatorship of the proletariat" or the "liberation of Russia." According to the newspaper Pravda, this has all happened. And then the question arises: "In whose ranks did we join, for example, in the mid-1980s?" The answer is simple: in the CPSU, which historically defeated and destroyed the bourgeoisie, the nobility and landlords in 1920, built powerful industry and agriculture in the 1930s, won the Great Patriotic War in the 1940s, flew into space in the 1950-1960s , by the end of the 1970s and the beginning of the 1980s, it began to build a normal, human life, to develop what was achieved. Very few people knew then that at the top of the CPSU there were traitors, thieves, bribe-takers and outright hates. No one thought that the theory of party building is catastrophically behind because of this from practice. They began to think about all this when a handful of people began to hide food, close tobacco factories, bury cars in the backyards of factories, hide vodka under the shelves and cut down vineyards, destroy tomatoes with tractors, and carry out postscripts on a national scale. And it is not necessary to speak about “true communists” today, but about those who concealed black deeds and theft behind beautiful words. At a time when it was necessary to transfer the country to new technological modes, drunk, frank du-ki came to the leadership, and in the end it came to the "thieves' gang." How could a whole nation be deceived? It's simple, make him think not about the future, but about how to feed, dress and shoe himself today, and most importantly his children, make him hate himself, his story, his country, and the thing is in the hat. And if it has disappeared somewhere, then it is known for certain that it arrived somewhere, if something breaks up, somewhere something strengthens or connects stronger. And so it happened. "Fear Danians bringing gifts!" - said the Trojan priest Laocoon at the sight of a wooden horse donated to the Trojans. By the way, the idea of ​​building this horse is attributed to Odysseus, one of the most “beloved” characters of ancient history. So the winners write the story. And if the RSDLP (b), and then the CPSU (b), was the party of winners, then, alas, the CPSU was unable to keep the banner of Communism and rested in the Bose. But the Communists have not disappeared, because humanity must somehow follow the path of progress, who would not slow down its movement forward.
  • Knell wardenheart 22 May 2020 11: 54 New
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    The system itself is to blame for the fact that it began to “recruit” rogues into the party, in that the party spirit became a certain condition for career growth. As a result, various people crawled for whom in life all this was rubbish and verbiage, which they got rid of at the first opportunity.
    Because you don’t have to chase quantity.
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      Because you don’t have to chase quantity.


      It always failed many ...
  • Ross xnumx 22 May 2020 12: 06 New
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    Hypothetical gold and currency funds of the CPSU, supposedly disappeared after the collapse of the Soviet Union, have not yet been found.

    The fate of the party’s physical gold could be voiced by the CPSU’s business managers, but this is the misfortune:
    The death of Kruchina, who had been working as the manager of the affairs of the Central Committee of the CPSU for the last eight years of his life, occurred on August 26, 1991 and was also called suicide almost immediately.
    Messages followed by: N.E. Kruchina jumped out of the balcony of his apartment on the fifth floor in house number 13 on Plotnikov Lane. The body was discovered early in the morning near the entrance. And supposedly "the first inspection of the body and office of the deceased showed that he decided to voluntarily die."

    The most mysterious that he was not the only one who decided to make ends meet:
    It is known that on the 22nd, a member of the State Emergency Committee, the Minister of Internal Affairs of the USSR Boris Karlovich Pugo, about whom I recently spoke in Pravda, died with his wife (see No. 91). Two days later, on August 24, Marshal and Hero of the Soviet Union Sergey Fedorovich Akhromeev, who supported the State Emergency Committee, died extremely strangely. The official version is suicide.

    Let’s say right away, it will be about a completely different “gold”, which also mysteriously disappeared ... It's about people, members of one of the largest party in the world.

    Speaking about the other gold of the party - 19 ordinary members of the CPSU, it should be noted that after the LIB died, it was in the leadership of the CPSU and the KGB that plans matured to improve the future life of the Soviet people, as a result of which the gag reflex to the very existence of the Politburo, regional committees and city committees overflowed the flaming bowl love for everything party.
    This was the call of the Communists in the war: “Communists - go ahead!”, And under LIB the slogan sounded: “Communists - first!”
    You need to remain human regardless of party affiliation. This was possible in the conditions of instilling the Moral Code of the builder of communism. In the conditions of life, organized according to the thieves' concepts, it is very difficult to achieve the appearance in the power of people of honor and openness, philanthropy and integrity.
    And referring to their early membership in the CPSU does not make sense. They were cynics and liars from birth. And they quickly assembled a team of interests, putting at the forefront the eternal passion (addiction, inclination) of a person for profit.
    Fortunately, there are people in the country who do not suffer from this ailment. But to advertise their names today, in conditions of private TV and other media, is impossible.
  • Sergey49 22 May 2020 12: 08 New
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    Not the gold of the party, but the gold of the Russian people robbed by the Communists.
  • NordUral 22 May 2020 12: 18 New
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    There is such a thing - a renegade. Literally a renegade (lat. Renegatus, from renego - “I renounce”) - a person who has transferred from one religion to another; figuratively, this is a person who has betrayed his convictions and transferred to the camp of opponents, becoming an apostate, a traitor.

    No, these are not renegades. They never were communists. Party membership for them is a pass to the feeder.
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    Exactly. The country was degraded with such communists. And the last 10 years it has been clearly seen everywhere. The race on the coffins, the shtetl accent and the illiterate speech of the leaders. Negative selection, which is ongoing now ...

    And alas. Unanimity then let everyone down. There were no popular opponents of the collapse, even 2 popular contender for the resident then quickly ended in a plane crash.
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    Gold disappears regularly if you look at history, and history is always covered in darkness and you will not find the ends, well, they don’t want to look. As for the gold of the Communists, the young reformers and their curators must have enriched themselves on this. The ideological communists were gradually eliminated, and werewolves remained as a result, the collapse of everything and total theft.
    1. Vadim237 22 May 2020 15: 40 New
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      The USSR spent most of its gold reserves on the purchase of grain equipment for consumer goods from other countries and other things starting in the late 50s.
      1. cniza 22 May 2020 16: 35 New
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        This is so, and 100% employment and an article for parasitism produced unclaimed products of poor quality with a large number of defects and all this lay in the "warehouses".
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    3. cniza 22 May 2020 16: 39 New
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      Quote: veritas
      Gold disappears regularly if you look at the story, and the story is always covered in darkness and you will not find the ends


      Those who disappeared, the same were responsible for his search - the circle closed.
  • Vadim237 22 May 2020 15: 36 New
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    The world has always lived on the principle of consumption and money has been a decisive factor - and the poor will be under any system, even under socialism, even under capitalism, since there will not be enough funds and resources for a decent life for each and every individual.
    1. cniza 22 May 2020 16: 32 New
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      Curious opinion. If there are not enough resources, then they must be created, if they cannot be created, the population would not increase, but we see the opposite picture, the population is only growing. So the problem of poverty is different. Vadim, I would like to hear your opinion.
      1. Vadim237 23 May 2020 13: 10 New
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        The population is growing - it is clearly visible in poor countries and you will not make resources from the air.
  • cniza 22 May 2020 16: 28 New
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    Moreover, modern Russia is distinguished by one of the highest taxes in the world “on the poor”, while at the same time the most sparing taxation is “for the rich”


    But as the author sees it in numbers, rates, it would be interesting to hear the opinion.
  • Felix Chuykov 22 May 2020 18: 41 New
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    To the people

    United Russia - The Fascist Party
    In the country of gentlemen, coffins, interchanges and the subway.
    Wherever you turn, the bailiff manages.
    Wherever you look, good is stolen.

    "United Russia" - a bandit party
    In the country of teachers, bears and hk.
    Wherever you turn - satellite fences.
    Everywhere you look, a family river.

    "United Russia" - a party of freaks
    In the country of buried truths and digged deeds.
    Everywhere you turn - portraits of steamboats.
    No matter where you look, patience is the limit.

    Victory is not for war! Freedom is not for gloomy ones!
    The nations need peace! And the world needs light!
    Nothing will come of the frail and dull,
    When the Aurora Commemorative Council Rises ...

    Felix Chuykov

    September 15 - 16, 2016
    1. cniza 22 May 2020 18: 52 New
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      No, enough revolutions from us, let's go the other way ...
  • parusnik 22 May 2020 18: 51 New
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    The same Gorbachev was deceived, outplayed by political cheaters of the West, who have no equal in hypocrisy, hypocrisy and duplicity. What was worth, for example, their word not to expand NATO east?
    .... Yeah, naive I, trusting me, you can easily fool me ... laughing What prevented an agreement ... Gorbachev, he was glad to be deceived ...
    1. cniza 22 May 2020 18: 59 New
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      He sold the USSR, by the way, along with Shevarnadze.
  • Dart2027 22 May 2020 19: 05 New
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    The idea of ​​a state based on justice, equality, etc., has existed since time immemorial. Here are just the consequences of all attempts to build it can be expressed in one phrase:
    "We wanted the best - it turned out as always."
  • Doliva63 22 May 2020 20: 18 New
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    “It’s also very interesting to know how many true communists remain”
    We, it seems, are not very many, but we still have drinks
  • Kestrel 23 May 2020 00: 34 New
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    The phrase is popular in my circles - Former officers and former blue men do not exist ... It is becoming more and more difficult with the Communists ... I remember voting for the Communist Party several times, in the hope that they will defend social guarantees for the population ... After The Communist Party voted FOR the anti-people’s Yeltsin laws, having a majority in the State Duma, completely disappointed in the Communist Party, and after the collapse of the USSR and pogroms in the post-Soviet countries of the Russian population on a national basis, I consider all the talk about internationalism to be completely crazy !!!
  • candidate 24 May 2020 03: 38 New
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    Socialism - from the word sociality, i.e. society and the public. All the benefits received as a result of economic activity, according to the plan, go primarily to the society itself, and not to a narrow group of individuals (for example, investors, business owners or a corporation). Well, communism comes from the word commune, a community of people living together who have common interests, resources, property, etc., based on equality. From here - utilities.. Lack of antagonistic relationships.
    Capitalism - from the concept of capital, i.e. money, property, means of production. Maintaining and increasing capital is the main task, and spending on everything else, including social spending, is based on the residual principle. In the case of "wild capitalism" - the power of merchants. That is, they squeeze out all the juices from the workers to the maximum, pay the budget as little as possible and try to minimize social expenses. Only oligarchs and corrupt officials live well in this situation.
    The presence of an antagonistic relationship.
  • Thomas the Unbelieving 24 May 2020 19: 51 New
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    The author has lost sight of the most important thing. Almost everyone who remained in politics is corrupt. The CEC website publishes financial reports of all parties. I will not give everything, and I’m too lazy to climb into the reports for the last year. I give the official data for 2018 on the sources of funds of parliamentary parties.
    EP: membership fees-225 million; federal budget-4bn.336mln; donations - 2 billion. 550 million rubles.
    Communist Party: membership fees-957 million rubles federal budget-2bn. 383 million: donations-148,7 million
    LDPR; membership fees-88 thousand! The federal budget is 1 billion 727 million; donations are 4,9 million rubles.
    If we take into account the frantic salaries of deputies and the fact that half goes on the lists (donations?), Then the question of “political” parties in our country should be removed from the agenda in order to deal with their problems of sharing and redistributing taxpayer money.
    But the ideas of communism will triumph sooner or later, or humanity will disappear into tartars.
  • ruivit1988 25 May 2020 07: 46 New
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    For every action there is an equal reaction force. We had socialism, capitalism devoured it in 91, and so on. Right now, capitalism has unfolded in our homeland, so to speak. Now it gives rise to communists, or the understanding that under the rule of capital. A simple hard worker can only fight for life and he is not needed by anyone but himself. Further, most likely, for all hard workers it will become obvious and understandable that the hard worker will do nothing. Well, if they become the whole plant, then capital will reckon with the opinion of the workers. That is, a concept will appear in people that they all have a common interest and this interest cannot be defended by one person or the collective of one enterprise. Here you can only defend by all means with all the teams of enterprises. All this will not be where we can’t get away with this hutim we, or someone from the ruling class there wakes up something. Everything will come to the point that the working class will unite and will only defend its interests in such a way and not like at all. Then, unexpectedly for all, socialism will come.