To whom Katyusha sang and with whom the guy from our city fought


Looking at the indignation of our media heads with distortion "historical the truth ”about the Second World War, one involuntarily has to think, remember and understand more and more the words of our historian Klyuchevsky:


“... politics should be no more and no less than an applied history. Now it is nothing more than a denial of history and no less than its distortion. ”


It is ridiculous for people of my generation, witnesses and participants of that time to listen to the allegations of proud Poles about World War II. Why do they consider it the beginning of the German attack on Poland, and not the Polish and German attack on Czechoslovakia? Moreover, for people of my generation, the words of the famous song about Katyusha had a certain meaning. After all, she sang "to a fighter on the far frontier." We, the boys, saw this fighter with the For Courage medal, which he received for fighting the Japanese invaders on Lake Hassan. And with enthusiasm they sang songs about three tankmen, three cheerful friends, from whom “samurai flew to the ground”. And during the war, our platoon loved a song in the ranks, which began with the words “Far East, strong support, the Union is growing, growing, invincible. And that which was conquered by blood, we will never give to the enemy. "

Do not lie: after the Versailles Peace Treaty, which completed the first imperialist war, Japan began the second world imperialist war in 1931 with an attack on China.

Unlike current leaders, contemporaries of those heroic times very clearly understood this. So, in 1946, Comrade Stalin declared that

“As a result of the first crisis of the capitalist system of the world economy, the First World War arose, as a result of the second crisis, the Second World War arose. This does not mean, of course, that World War II is a copy of the First. On the contrary, World War II is significantly different from the first in nature. It should be borne in mind that the main fascist states - Germany, Japan, Italy - before attacking the allied countries, destroyed the last vestiges of bourgeois democratic freedoms, established a brutal terrorist regime, trampled the principle of sovereignty and free development of small countries, announced the policy of the seizure of foreign lands by their own policy and declared publicly that they are seeking world domination and the spread of the fascist regime throughout the world, with the seizure of Czechoslovakia and central districts China's state s Axis has shown that they are ready to carry out his threat about the enslavement of all freedom-loving nations. "

(Stalin, Op., T. 16.)

In 1931, Japan attacked China. In 1945, she surrendered, but was occupied by the United States. The war cannot be considered finished until a peace treaty has been concluded with all participants in the war (and not just with Russia!). But it is hardly possible to conclude peace treaties with the occupied countries, since sooner or later the proud people of Japan will drive out the invaders, and then we can talk about a treaty with a sovereign state that will fix the end of the war.

Now let's move on to Europe. In 1942, a wonderful film based on the play by Konstantin Simonov “A guy from our city” was released. Its content: Saratov guy Sergei Lukonin leaves for the summer of 1932 tank school. In 1936, Sergei went to war in Spain, where he was captured by the Germans and impersonates a Frenchman, but the Germans, recognizing him by accent, are trying to force him to admit that he is Russian. Nevertheless, the circumstances are such that Sergei was able to escape. And again - the battles in which he tries to unleash the capabilities of Soviet tanks. The Great Patriotic War begins in 1941, and he, like millions of Soviet people, finds himself at the front, where he meets an old acquaintance - the German who interrogated him in Spain.

Maybe someone will have a question about whether the war with Germany and Italy in faraway Spain was part of World War II. But I, like Gonzales, who edited my articles in three issues in the newspaper Izvestia on the eve of the collapse of the USSR, could not have such a question. Gonzales was one of those children of the Spanish Republicans whom the Soviet Union sheltered in 1936.

But then the war was not only in Spain. The Nazis captured Austria, Czechoslovakia, waged a "strange" war with France and England. Their allies in Italy captured Ethiopia. Until September 1, 1939, when the Poles announced the beginning of World War II, there was still a lot of time, and the lights of war in Europe and Asia were already blazing.

But even after 1945, the world war did not stop. The United States and its allies could not calm down. Vidal Gore, grandson of a senator from Oklahoma, writes:

“After the victory over Japan in 1945 ... we are waging, as the historian Charles O. Beard put it,“ an eternal war for the sake of eternal peace ”! .. Every month we are presented with a new disgusting enemy, which we must strike before he destroys us . I was accused of being prone to exaggeration, so I present you with a table covering the time from the events in Kosovo (1999) and moving back to the Berlin Air Bridge (1948-1949). Note that the compiler of this table, the Federation of American Scientists, notes a number of our wars as "ongoing to the present," although many do not remember them. "

He then provides a list of 226 US military operations in all regions of the globe. After Kosovo, on which he completes his list, there was still the “Arab spring” and much more that has not yet ended.

The second world imperialist war should not be confused with its separate episode: the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945. And we must understand that the second imperialist war did not end, it only took other forms.

Unfortunately, at this stage of the imperialist war, our people really suffered a defeat thanks to the mediocre, short-sighted and anti-people leadership, starting with Khrushchev and the entire Dnepropetrovsk mafia. Instead of peace treaties, the non-binding Helsinki Act, the defeat of the communist movement supporting the USSR and the Warsaw Pact. As a result, the US occupation not only of Japan, but also of Germany, together with all its satellites, who fought against the USSR.

Yes, we won, but the Anglo-Saxons received the fruits of victory. That's why they spit on our “historical memory”, establishing everywhere theirs, desecrating the graves of our ancestors who died in the war against Nazism. They showed themselves as the same Nazis, but of a different nation. Stalin also spoke very clearly about this, evaluating Churchill's Fulton speech:

"Question. How do you rate Mr. Churchill’s last speech in the United States of America?

Answer. I regard it as a dangerous act designed to sow the seeds of discord between the Allied states and impede their cooperation.

Question. Can Mr. Churchill's speech be considered detrimental to the cause of peace and security?

Answer. Of course, yes. In fact, Mr. Churchill now stands in the position of the arsonists of the war. And Mr. Churchill is not alone here: he has friends not only in England, but also in the United States of America. It should be noted that Mr. Churchill and his friends are strikingly reminiscent of Hitler and his friends in this regard. Hitler began the cause of the outbreak of war by proclaiming racial theory, declaring that only people who speak German represent a full-fledged nation. Mr. Churchill begins the war unleashing also with racial theory, asserting that only English-speaking nations are full-fledged nations, destined to decide the fate of the whole world. German racial theory led Hitler and his friends to the conclusion that the Germans, as the only fully-fledged nation, should dominate other nations. The English racial theory leads Mr. Churchill and his friends to the conclusion that English-speaking nations, as the only full-fledged ones, should dominate the rest of the nations of the world. In fact, Mr. Churchill and his friends in England and the USA present something like an ultimatum to nations that do not speak English: recognize our domination voluntarily, and then everything will be all right, otherwise war is inevitable. But nations shed blood for five years of a brutal war for the freedom and independence of their countries, and not for the sake of replacing Hitler’s domination with Churchill’s domination. It is therefore likely that nations that do not speak English and at the same time constitute the vast majority of the world's population will not agree to enter into new slavery. The tragedy of Mr. Churchill is that he, as an inveterate Tory, does not understand this simple and obvious truth. There is no doubt that the installation of Mr. Churchill is an installation for war, a call for war with the USSR. ”

(Stalin, Op., T. 16.)

The fact that we are still dealing with Nazism, Vidal Gore writes as follows:

“And here is the text of the pre-Samov time:“ Restriction of personal freedom, the right to freedom of expression, including freedom of the press, the right to organize meetings and form associations, as well as violation of the secrecy of postal, telegraph and telephone communications and searches in homes, receipt of warrants for confiscation of property , as well as limitation of property are permitted outside the boundaries prescribed by law. " The tone is familiar. Clinton? Bush? Ashcroft? No. This is a quote from a speech delivered by Hitler in 1933, in which he called for the adoption of a law establishing “extraordinary powers” ​​to “protect the people and the state” after the catastrophe with the fire of the Reichstag, which the Nazis secretly set on fire. ”

It is curious that in neighboring Ukraine they support the Nazis, repainted as patriots of Ukraine. The authorities of modern Ukraine are trying to extradite Bandera and other Ukrainian nationalists as fighters for the "independence" of Ukraine against the "totalitarian" Soviet regime. And while we are talking about their acts and crimes on the territory of Ukraine, some aberration of views on the goals that they supposedly set for themselves is still possible. True, when we move on to the actions of the regiments of Ukrainian nationalists in Poland (Volyn) and Belarus (Khatyn), there are great doubts about the "purity" of their thoughts and about who the Ukrainian SS men served. When you look at their “exploits” today, especially in the Donbass, you generally begin to doubt their belonging to human society.

But there is another side of their activity, which proves that they never even had a thought about Ukraine, that during the past war they served specifically the totalitarian Hitler regime against all countries of the anti-Hitler coalition. And therefore, they could not have other goals, except the transfer of Ukraine to Nazi Germany.

This is evidenced, in particular, by the facts cited in a book published by the American authors M. Sayers and A. Kahn back in 1942. The Secret War Against America, published in our country in 1947. Nobody has ever refuted these facts and, despite their prescription, they prove the lie that is being instilled into the citizens of the world.

But, as they say, hope dies last. Defeat in one battle does not mean the end of the war. But for this we must first get rid of the "partners" of the Anglo-Saxons in our country. It is necessary to destroy the bandits, to expel foreign invaders. Over the years of the Second World War, the RSFSR lost 8% of national property. After that, I had to invest in the Baltic states, Ukraine, Belarus, which were most destroyed by the war. In the 90s, 11% of national wealth was lost. Between 1995 and 2018, foreign capital bought our enterprises for 645 billion dollars and received 620 billion for them. In their home country, they would have to invest 10-12 trillion dollars for such a profit. It's time to understand Russia with your mind.
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  1. tihonmarine 15 May 2020 15: 19 New
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    The war cannot be considered finished until a peace treaty has been concluded with all participants in the war (and not just with Russia!). But it is hardly possible to conclude peace treaties with occupied countries
    These words would be yes to all the rulers in the ears, Russian in the first place.
    ,
    1. NordUral 18 May 2020 10: 43 New
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      These words would be yes to all the rulers in the ears, Russian in the first place.

      It is useless to Westerners to listen to this. And "ours" - what they are ours!
  2. Uncle lee 15 May 2020 15: 19 New
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    it's time to understand Russia with your mind
    It's time for Russia to live its own mind!
  3. The leader of the Redskins 15 May 2020 15: 19 New
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    Soooo ... Forgive me, of course. You can zaminusovat ... But this article is the real REWRITING HISTORY !!!
    Yes, I’m probably younger than Professor Motlin, but there are still some generally accepted canons !!!
    I, like all of us from childhood, learned that the beginning of the Second World War -
    September 1, 1939!
    WWII - June 22, 1945!
    Victory Day on Germany May 8-9!
    The end of the Second World War - September 2, 1945!
    AND DOT !!!
    And to breed these replay in the style of Rezun-Suvorov, fire !!!
    Yes, there were Japan-China conflict, and Spain, and Finland, and Czechoslovakia with Hungary, and even the Baltic states, but there are generally accepted axioms, let's stick to them!
    1. hhhhhhh 15 May 2020 15: 40 New
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      The war ended in victory over Japan, and why it didn’t start in 1933 when Japan invaded Manchuria and Hitler was seated on the throne with Jewish money.
      It's time to review some issues.
      Recall the Munich agreement.
    2. really 15 May 2020 15: 54 New
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      The article by the doctor of economic sciences, the socialist economy, which led to the collapse of the state, is like a doctor of sciences of Marxism - Leninism. And that part of the article, which speaks about economics, looks a lot like quackery.
    3. Ros 56 15 May 2020 16: 00 New
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      You simply simply did not know these facts and you do not need to turn everything into a dogma. Documents were born and the story is seen in a slightly different light, this is not a rewriting of history, but an adjustment. After all, the documents are genuine, and your earlier knowledge was just not complete and did not take into account real events. There is nothing surprising and terrible
    4. Vladimir_2U 15 May 2020 16: 03 New
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      Not that I would be against the date of September 1, but rewriting history should not be called this article.
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      but there are still some generally accepted canons !!!

      Canons can be imposed!
      The beginning of the Second World War on September 1, many historians dispute.
      “Recall, at that time, the largest powers in the world - the USA and the USSR remained outside the war. That is why doubts arise about the full validity of the date of the beginning of the planetary massacre established by West European historiography.
      And therefore, I think, by and large it can be assumed that it would be more correct to consider the starting point of the Second World War as the date of involvement of the Soviet Union in hostilities - June 22, 1941 ...
      ... clashed at international conferences and symposiums, where the Chinese participants invariably uphold the official position of their country that the start of World War II should be considered the date of the unleashing of the full-scale war in China on July 7, 1937. "
      Anatoly Koshkin, Doctor of Historical Sciences

      http://www.stoletie.ru/territoriya_istorii/kogda_nachalas_vtoraja_mirovaja_vojna_648.htm
    5. Undecim 15 May 2020 16: 05 New
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      Yes, I’m probably younger than Professor Motlin
      Yes, we are all younger than Professor Matlin, who, according to my estimates, is at least ninety years old, since in 1953 he graduated from the Moscow State Economic Institute. Or maybe more. But even a hundred years old does not make a historian from an economist.
      If you follow his logic, so the beginning of World War II must be counted from 1921, from the Spanish-Reef colonial war in Morocco. Why not? Honestly, these propagandists are fed up with history.
      1. Thomas the Unbelieving 16 May 2020 18: 17 New
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        If you started your youth during the war in 3 special art schools, and then all your life were connected with the military-industrial complex, you would look at history as its participant and eyewitness. It’s just that now the war is going on mainly in ideology and economics. Unfortunately, there are questions and phenomena that the general public is not informed about and therefore cannot always grasp their connection. Sometimes this is not necessary. I do not claim to be an historian. It's just a shame for the power.
        1. Undecim 17 May 2020 21: 43 New
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          If you started your youth during the war in 3 special art schools
          I respect your age with all respect, but in this case, it does not apply to the question.
          would look at the story as its participant and eyewitness.
          We are all participants and eyewitnesses of the story. each at its own stage.
          and then all my life were associated with the defense industry
          I also did not sing in the church choir all my life.
          I do not claim to be an historian.
          However, you undertake to determine where the story is “right”, where is “wrong”, and who does not agree with you are enemies. You are not alone, here already one author wrote that all who disagree with his "only true" understanding of history are fascists.
          It's just a shame for the power.
          You decide which of the powers you are sorry for. If for the USSR, then this power has been gone for thirty years. And the propagandists are all trying to stick the history of that Soviet country and that Soviet people to today's Russia. Only some of them do it consciously in order to keep people occupied and distracted from reality, while others are influenced by the former, like you. Both of them produce information trash that has nothing to do with history.
          And if you are so offended by the power, then you do not engage in agitation, but write a normal article about the USSR so that readers on the site can not only write Shpakovsky as it was all bad to read and Samsonov’s nonsense, but how people really lived in the USSR. And I will gladly support you as a person born and brought up in the USSR.
          1. Liam 17 May 2020 21: 51 New
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            Quote: Undecim
            would look at the story as its participant and eyewitness.
            We are all participants and eyewitnesses of the story. each at its stage

            From the participants and eyewitnesses, very bad historians are obtained. Mostly they are nostalgians and propagandists with a + or - sign.
            1. Undecim 17 May 2020 21: 57 New
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              Unfortunately, bad historians are obtained not only from participants and eyewitnesses. Like the propagandists.
              1. Liam 17 May 2020 22: 03 New
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                Undoubtedly, it is a priori contraindicated for participants and eyewitnesses for the same reasons that a doctor should not treat himself, but a lawyer should protect himself in court. For impartiality, they should all be objects of research and not subjects
    6. Invoce 15 May 2020 16: 36 New
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      It's about second imperialist war! The start date of World War II was marked by offended Poles thrown by A. Hitler ... If he hadn’t thrown them and attacked the USSR with Poland, what date would be considered the beginning of World War 2?
    7. prior 15 May 2020 16: 39 New
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      That is, if the opinion of the author does not correspond to what was previously embedded in your ears, is this a rewriting of history? Maybe it’s not worth it so categorically.
      1. That is, if the Poles say that Germany and the USSR started the war, is this a WRITING of history? You do not take into account the views of what dogmas they put in their ears?
    8. Lopatov 15 May 2020 18: 09 New
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      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The end of the Second World War - September 2, 1945!
      AND DOT !!!

      1. And still:
        The Second World War [~ 1] (September 1, 1939 - September 2, 1945 [24]) - the war of two world military-political coalitions, which has become the largest armed conflict in the history of mankind.
        And the inscription on September 3 on the medal appeared in connection with the adoption of a decree on the victory of the USSR over Japan by the Supreme Soviet of the USSR. That is, the difference is the same as with the outbreak of World War II and the Great Patriotic War.
        1. Lopatov 15 May 2020 18: 30 New
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          And the inscription on September 3 on the medal appeared in connection with the adoption of a decree on the victory of the USSR over Japan by the Supreme Soviet of the USSR. That is, the difference is the same as with the outbreak of World War II and the Great Patriotic War.

          That is, we fought another day after the end of World War II?
          1. I informed you the official version of the inscription on the medal. Or do you, based on it, dispute a recognized fact of history?
            1. Lopatov 15 May 2020 19: 09 New
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              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              recognized fact of history

              Is the date of September 3, like Victory Day over Japan, not a "recognized fact of history"?
              And a lot of what they recognized ...

              In real life, there is nothing more deceitful than trying to tell a story from the middle.
              1. You missed one word - world
                World history interprets the end of World War II on September 2.
                1. Lopatov 15 May 2020 19: 41 New
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                  World history interprets the end of World War II on September 2.

                  She interprets a lot of things ... To make it more convenient to put an equal sign between Nazism and socialism.

                  Here is the same Poland. A piece from Lithuania. At least a third of the state, including the capital. A piece of Belarus, a piece of Ukraine. Later, a piece of Germany (upper Silesia), a piece of Czechoslovakia.
                  And all through armed aggression, except Germany. Which was stupidly afraid to answer.

                  How does this “world history” interpret this apparent violation of the established after the First World Order? No way?

                  How does “world history” interpret the “Ruhr conflict”? With illegal occupation and French "heroes" shooting at unarmed Germans. Also in any way?

                  But I am more than sure that what happened in Silesia and in the Ruhr was one of the direct reasons that Hitler came to power in Germany.
                  1. Reasons, as historians point out, really were many. But sorry for the indiscreet question, in which year did you graduate from school / institute? And what dates did they tell you? Have you mentioned the conflicts you listed as the reasons for the outbreak of the Second World War?
                    Just, according to your logic, was Nazi Germany simply forced to attack aggressive Poland?
                    1. Lopatov 15 May 2020 19: 57 New
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                      Have you mentioned the conflicts you listed as the reasons for the outbreak of the Second World War?

                      At school, no. Our historian was an ardent liberal.
                      But at the school, yes.

                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      Just, according to your logic, was Nazi Germany simply forced to attack aggressive Poland?

                      Not quite.
                      Nazi Germany appeared thanks to the actions of Poland. As well as France and Belgium.
                      The British were more loyal to Germany. However, this loyalty came sideways. Because it was she who made Nazi Germany have not only desire, but also ability. To regain the Rhine region, to carry out an aggressive takeover of Austria, to seize Czechoslovakia and ultimately attack Poland.
              2. You probably do not have time to look, but:
                On September 2, 1945, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR adopted a decree "On declaring September 3 as the Victory Day over Japan." “In commemoration of the victory over Japan, to establish that September 3 is the day of nationwide triumph - the celebration of victory over Japan. ... This day remained inactive only in 1945 and in 1946
                So this is just our, Soviet holiday.
    9. Octopus 15 May 2020 18: 57 New
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      I, like all of us from childhood, learned that the beginning of the Second World War -
      September 1, 1939!

      Just this part of the creation of the dear professor is relatively adequate. There is a discussion on the start date of WWII.

      European date - 01.09.1939/XNUMX/XNUMX, the beginning of hostilities in the European theater.
      Asian, it is pushed mainly by the Chinese - 07.07.1937/31/18.09.1931, the incident on the Marco Polo Bridge. But the most stubborn comrades, yes, remember the XNUMXst year, XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX Mukden incident.
      Revision - 11.12.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX, when Germany declared war on the United States and thus combined the European and Pacific theater of operations.

      Not that they beat each other with candelabra, but there is a difference in interpretation.
      1. I'm sorry, but I studied at a European school, not Beijing. However, some historians suggest beginning to consider the civil war in Spain.
        But let's accept the generally accepted facts. Google, zayandexite, or look in any Soviet reference book / encyclopedia when the Second World War began and ended. If the world community thoroughly accepts different dates, I will agree.
        1. Octopus 15 May 2020 20: 09 New
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          However, some historians suggest beginning to consider the civil war in Spain.

          )))
          These are Soviet not so much historians as publicists. The beginning of the war of the Soviet people with the Nazi hordes)))
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          If the world community thoroughly accepts different dates, I will agree.

          The world community is somehow on the drum. It more or less drove this episode. Just a discussion of the periodization of WWII is a really existing question. Unlike most of the text under discussion, it is completely delusional.
    10. ZAV69 17 May 2020 16: 21 New
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      Why breed? The representative of China participated in the surrender ceremony of Japan as the winning party. That is why China has become a permanent member of the UN Security Council. And Japan invaded China in 1931. So everything is obvious. And the fact that they accepted the start date of 1939 is that some instigators would fall victim.
    11. NordUral 18 May 2020 10: 47 New
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      The leader of the Redskins! And where did you see the rezun in the article?
      The article is not a rewriting of history, but a restoration of the real,
      which, for a number of reasons, was also hushed up.
  4. knn54 15 May 2020 15: 26 New
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    Who did the guy from our city fight with?
    With carriers of the "brown plague."
    And incomprehensible tolerance-replaced "samurai" with "enemy flocks."
  5. Gato 15 May 2020 15: 27 New
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    the proud people of Japan will drive out the invaders

    Already funny.
    The Japanese government intends to appeal to the US administration with a request to withdraw troops from the base in Okinawa. Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi said they are already looking for bases in other parts of the country to accommodate American soldiers.
    (C) 2004 and after
  6. FIR FIR 15 May 2020 15: 27 New
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    They are mortally afraid and hate even this poor, “sick”, tired country.
    I imagine how they were afraid of the USSR at the peak of their power.
  7. Doccor18 15 May 2020 15: 32 New
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    Only daily hard work, craving for knowledge and boundless love for the Motherland will help us to meet the 22nd century.
    And you can’t let go of youth. She must know and love her country.
  8. Gato 15 May 2020 15: 37 New
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    who served the Ukrainian SS men

    In their "oath" it is written in black and white - personally by Adolf Hitler, for all the national parts of the Waffen SS the text was the same.
  9. Radikal 15 May 2020 15: 38 New
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    Who would doubt that! The inventors of fascist ideology are the industrial and banking circles of the West. Why was she needed? It is also obvious - to destroy the alternative, largely successful communist ideology. Here, we have successfully been involved in all the institutions of power, with the secret sponsor of the Guarantor, though he has this personal .... For thirty years now, the country, without waging war with anyone, has been (let's say) in a disorganized state. And neither "Crimea", nor the Middle East "successes" can hide the tensions in the country! And why? And therefore! I see, huh? soldier
  10. Radikal 15 May 2020 15: 55 New
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    But, as they say, hope dies last. Defeat in one battle does not mean the end of the war. But for this we must first get rid of the "partners" of the Anglo-Saxons in our country. It is necessary to destroy the bandits, to expel foreign invaders. Over the years of the Second World War, the RSFSR lost 8% of national property. After that, I had to invest in the Baltic states, Ukraine, Belarus, which were most destroyed by the war. In the 90s, 11% of national wealth was lost. Between 1995 and 2018, foreign capital bought our enterprises for 645 billion dollars and received 620 billion for them. In their home country, they would have to invest 10-12 trillion dollars for such a profit. It's time to understand Russia with your mind.

    Dear professor, with both hands - "for"! I agree! Can one clarify? Who is the main “partner of the Anglo-Saxons” in the country? When I was in college, in the military, one of the teachers on special tactics said: “We call a cat - a cat!” Therefore, everything seems clear to me here - the current government is the best partner of the partners you are writing about, and quotation marks are inappropriate here. hi
    1. NordUral 18 May 2020 10: 51 New
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      Therefore, in my opinion, everything is obvious here - the current government is the best partner of the partners you are writing about.

      You still “flatter” them, Radikal, what partners, even in quotation marks, are the service staff for a while.
  11. Radikal 15 May 2020 16: 03 New
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEhcwHhZPbk soldier
  12. A. Privalov 15 May 2020 16: 08 New
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    Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin wrote 13 (thirteen) volumes of essays.
    The 16th volume was planned, but not published.
    The publication of additional volumes of Stalin’s collected works was initiated by the Soviet Stalinist ideologist Richard Kosolapov.
    Trust such "sources" do not cause. Alas... hi
    1. Mihail2019 15 May 2020 17: 06 New
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      Even so - if the quotes are stated in this way: a question and answer, indicating the date of the quote, then this does not reduce the relevance or historical value of the quote! Moreover, even among the classics of literature, the posthumous “From the Unpublished”, “Diaries” or the like came out.
      So personally, your trust in these, as you write, "sources" is your personal trust.
      And the position of I.V. Stalin and his views are quite clear from the 13 volumes in vivo issued. And in the 16th I do not see any contradiction to these views.
    2. iouris 15 May 2020 17: 10 New
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      Stalin did not write "volumes" of literary works, but journalistic articles in which the political and theoretical questions of building communism in the USSR, the development of socialism and the world communist movement were theoretically and comprehensively worked out. After Stalin, the world socialist system remained. He would be very surprised to see what this capital was turned into.
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        I know! Nevertheless - after the man there remained a work quite tangible on paper with the statement of his thoughts and reasoning. Thoughts are not the last person in the history of our country, or in world history. And therefore, it would be nice not to engage in politically engaged interpretations of his works, but to study them critically (in the normal sense of the word) and thoughtfully.
        All the same, the person who wrote this was very educated, erudite and talented.
    3. Doctor 15 May 2020 19: 24 New
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      Trust such "sources" do not cause. Alas...

      Yes, this is quoted from an article from Pravda of March 14, 1946.
    4. Thomas the Unbelieving 16 May 2020 17: 59 New
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      You shouldn’t be so. A quote from a speech at a meeting of voters in 1946 was published in all newspapers, and Stalin gave a characterization to Churchill in an interview published in the Bolshevik magazine No. 3 of 1947. In vain Kosolapov doubts in good faith. It’s not his fault that instead of an intelligent and honest Sakov, Gaidar was slipped.
      1. A. Privalov 16 May 2020 18: 44 New
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        Quote: Thomas the Unbelieving
        You shouldn’t be so. A quote from a speech at a meeting of voters in 1946 was published in all newspapers, and Stalin gave a characterization to Churchill in an interview published in the Bolshevik magazine No. 3 of 1947. In vain Kosolapov doubts in good faith. It’s not his fault that instead of an intelligent and honest Sakov, Gaidar was slipped.

        I assure you, I have absolutely no complaints about clearly attributed quotes from newspapers and magazines.
        I don’t know who, when, when, instead of whom, and why they slipped it in.

        Richard Ivanovich’s conscientiousness (may God extend his years!) Can be assured of only one single case if you are ready to turn a blind eye to the fact that the deputy head of the propaganda and agitation department of the CPSU Central Committee, the first deputy editor-in-chief of the newspaper Pravda , the chief editor of the journal "Communist" suddenly turns out to be a loyal Stalinist.
        In itself, this fact does not carry anything special in itself. In the end, what if he became a Buddhist, or began to knit macramé?
        But he began to write fan fiction - a kind of amateur composition based on the popular original works of Stalin. Actually, there would be nothing special in this fact if he did not begin to collect them in volumes and pass them off as genuine works of Joseph Vissarionovich. hi
  13. Radikal 15 May 2020 16: 50 New
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    https://youtu.be/oQZ35jU_4JY soldier
  14. Radikal 15 May 2020 16: 53 New
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    Quote: A. Privalov
    Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin wrote 13 (thirteen) volumes of essays.
    The 16th volume was planned, but not published.
    The publication of additional volumes of Stalin’s collected works was initiated by the Soviet Stalinist ideologist Richard Kosolapov.
    Trust such "sources" do not cause. Alas... hi

    Alexander (you did not indicate your patronymic) What did you want to say? winked
  15. Mihail2019 15 May 2020 16: 59 New
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    Thank you so much for the article! Everything is said directly, not in the eyebrow - but in the eye !!!
    1. iouris 15 May 2020 17: 10 New
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      Quote: Michael2019
      not in the eyebrow - but in the eye !!!

      One question: to whom?
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      2. Mihail2019 15 May 2020 18: 07 New
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        Well, if you answer your question in the style of I.V. Stalin: "an oligarchic bunch that parasitizes on labor and the legitimate heritage of the people of the whole country."
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    We must learn from Stalin. If he poses rhetorical questions, he answers them in essence and in such a way that it is impossible to distort his thought. And some comrades, who are not at all comrades to us, continue to spin like a snake under a pitchfork, say that there is some kind of information (hybrid) war.
    Speaking of songs. What song and against whom will the modern “boys” go to the last battle?
  17. A. Privalov 15 May 2020 17: 32 New
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    Quote: Michael2019
    Even so - if the quotes are stated in this way: a question and answer, indicating the date of the quote, then this does not reduce the relevance or historical value of the quote! Moreover, even among the classics of literature, the posthumous “From the Unpublished”, “Diaries” or the like came out.
    So personally, your trust in these, as you write, "sources" is your personal trust.
    And the position of I.V. Stalin and his views are quite clear from the 13 volumes in vivo issued. And in the 16th I do not see any contradiction to these views.

    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin wrote 13 (thirteen) volumes of essays.
    The 16th volume was planned, but not published.
    The publication of additional volumes of Stalin’s collected works was initiated by the Soviet Stalinist ideologist Richard Kosolapov.
    Trust such "sources" do not cause. Alas... hi

    Alexander (you did not indicate your patronymic) What did you want to say? winked


    Dear Mikhail2019 and Radikal, the point here is not at all in my personal trust or distrust. Bibliographic heritage left by I.V. Stalin has serious significance. For this reason, it is very important that high-quality, correct, and comprehensively attributed quotation be given. Otherwise, we will have this:
  18. Radikal 15 May 2020 18: 30 New
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    Quote: A. Privalov
    Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin wrote 13 (thirteen) volumes of essays.
    The 16th volume was planned, but not published.
    The publication of additional volumes of Stalin’s collected works was initiated by the Soviet Stalinist ideologist Richard Kosolapov.
    Trust such "sources" do not cause. Alas... hi

    Well, what source are you? Trusted, trusted, verified, or something else? winked wink
  19. Radikal 15 May 2020 18: 37 New
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    Quote: A. Privalov
    Quote: Michael2019
    Even so - if the quotes are stated in this way: a question and answer, indicating the date of the quote, then this does not reduce the relevance or historical value of the quote! Moreover, even among the classics of literature, the posthumous “From the Unpublished”, “Diaries” or the like came out.
    So personally, your trust in these, as you write, "sources" is your personal trust.
    And the position of I.V. Stalin and his views are quite clear from the 13 volumes in vivo issued. And in the 16th I do not see any contradiction to these views.

    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin wrote 13 (thirteen) volumes of essays.
    The 16th volume was planned, but not published.
    The publication of additional volumes of Stalin’s collected works was initiated by the Soviet Stalinist ideologist Richard Kosolapov.
    Trust such "sources" do not cause. Alas... hi

    Alexander (you did not indicate your patronymic) What did you want to say? winked


    Dear Mikhail2019 and Radikal, the point here is not at all in my personal trust or distrust. Bibliographic heritage left by I.V. Stalin has serious significance. For this reason, it is very important that high-quality, correct, and comprehensively attributed quotation be given. Otherwise, we will have this:

    I agree completely, but I want to note that I did not cite any quotes in my comments. When I refer to them, then I will indicate all the links to the source. This is my political motto. lol You are unlikely to succeed in reproaching me with what you wanted to reproach me with. hi
    1. A. Privalov 15 May 2020 20: 07 New
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      You are unlikely to succeed in reproaching me with what you wanted to reproach me with.

      "There is no reproach in my words ..." (c) Sorry, if it seemed to you that I was reproaching you for something. I just answered your previous question about what exactly I wanted to say hi

      Quote: Radikal
      Well, what source are you? Trusted, trusted, verified, or something else?

      I, in this case, not a source, but a transmission link.
      In our house there were PSS of Lenin and Stalin. I first built barricades from them, then wrote term papers, diplomas, and even candidates' ones on them ... And already, “History of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks. Short Course,” I could once quote whole chapters in memory. So, with knowledge of the materiel, everything is in perfect order with me. hi
  20. sidoroff 15 May 2020 18: 39 New
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    "since sooner or later the proud people of Japan will drive out the invaders, and then we can talk about a treaty with a sovereign state that will fix the end of the war"
    is it about the occupation of the "northern territories", whose day in Japan is celebrated on February 7 each year?
  21. faterdom 15 May 2020 19: 01 New
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    It's about second imperialist war! The start date of World War II was marked by offended Poles thrown by A. Hitler ... If he hadn’t thrown them and attacked the USSR with Poland, what date would be considered the beginning of World War 2?

    It's not even the Poles. And the fact that Great Britain and France entered the war, the so-called "civilized world" of that time. You could even say “the whole civilized world,” since the United States was then considered promising half-savages, who, however, had plenty of money.
    Well, when "the whole civilized world" - then the war, accordingly, becomes "world". And so - China, Spain, Finland, Africa - this is where, somewhere, bombs do not fall on the capital of the world London - and the rest is the periphery.
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    Yes, the professor was richly noted.
    Moreover, the words of the famous song about Katyusha had a certain meaning to the people of my generation.

    Everything is correct here, many military songs are believed to be pre-war, these two were written during the long-term adventures of the USSR in the late 30s.
    after the Versailles Peace Treaty, which completed the first imperialist war, Japan began the second world imperialist war in 1931 with an attack on China.

    Inter-imperialist contradictions are inter-imperialistic, which never ends. But in China, Japan's activities were initially more like colonial expansion.
    achieve world domination and the spread of the fascist regime throughout the world, and with the capture of Czechoslovakia and the central regions of China, the Axis states showed

    Then the professor outwitted himself. If WWII began in the 31st, then this happened before the advent of the Anti-Comintern Pact, and even before the arrival of the All-Russian Special Forces in power.
    until a peace treaty has been concluded with all participants in the war (and not just with Russia!

    Russia did not participate in WWII; there was another country in its place. Memory fails professors. Or maybe. Samsonova read, I do not know.
    then it will be possible to talk about a treaty with a sovereign state that will fix the end of the war.

    But the USSR until the end of WWII, it turns out, did not live, such a nuisance.
    Vidal Gore, grandson of a senator from Oklahoma, writes:

    Vidal Gore is known not because he is the grandson of a senator, but because he is a writer of the original genre and original (extreme left) views. A kind of American Lemon. Again, the topic of communication with blacks in his work is disclosed exceptionally richly, if anyone understands what I mean.
    Yes, we won, but the Anglo-Saxons received the fruits of victory.

    It is difficult to understand whom the author calls "we", but it was the Anglo-Saxons who had a great deal of fun. All of Eastern Europe before WWII was pro-English, above all.
    Undoubtedly, the installation of Mr. Churchill is an installation for war, a call for war with the USSR

    Unfortunately, there was nothing of the kind in Fulton's speech. The idea of ​​the impossibility of peaceful coexistence with the USSR was voiced only by Reagan 40 years later.
    The tone is familiar. Clinton Bush? Ashcroft? No. This is a quote from a speech delivered by Hitler in 1933, in which he called for the adoption of a law establishing “extraordinary powers” ​​for “protecting the people and the state” after the disaster with the fire of the Reichstag, which the Nazis secretly set on fire. ”

    Calling anyone Hitler is a sacred tradition of left and pseudo-left.
    It is curious that in neighboring Ukraine they support the Nazis, repainted as patriots of Ukraine

    How can it be without Ukraine.
    facts cited in a book published by the American authors M. Sayers and A. Kahn back in 1942. The Secret War Against America, published in our country in 1947. Nobody has ever refuted these facts.

    It never occurred to anyone to refute the conspiracy theories of the American Communists. Already by the year of publication in the USSR, it is easy to guess that their work is a lie from the first to the last letter.
    you must first get rid of the "partners" of the Anglo-Saxons in our country. It is necessary to destroy the bandits, to expel foreign invaders.

    Grandfather fought something. As if not to call into the zone in old age.
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    For 1995-2018, foreign capital bought our enterprises for 645 billion dollars and received 620 billion for them.


    I basically agree with everything, but explain to me where is the profit?
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    Over the years of the Second World War, the RSFSR lost 8% of national property. After that, I had to invest in the Baltic states, Ukraine, Belarus, which were most destroyed by the war. In the 90s, 11% of national wealth was lost. Between 1995 and 2018, foreign capital bought our enterprises for 645 billion dollars and received 620 billion for them. In their home country, they would have to invest 10-12 trillion dollars for such a profit. It's time to understand Russia with your mind.

    There was an obvious negative growth. It is very possible to understand Russia with the mind, but the Russian people are often guided by emotions that prevent them from seeing the essence of what is happening. And judging by all indicators, Russia, from the beginning of the 90s, very much helps the "Western partners", of course financially and of course to the detriment of its own citizens.
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    Quite right, the author, Britain and the USA won the Second World War. They frankly say this and it is really true. We won the Great Patriotic War and lost the Second World War. Germany and the USSR disappeared from the world map as political states. Germany even united still does not have a constitution, and the decree of the occupying forces of Britain and the USA from 1948, and the USSR was handed over generally for a bottle of vodka. Stalin would not allow this.
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    Quote: A. Privalov
    Quote: Radikal
    You are unlikely to succeed in reproaching me with what you wanted to reproach me with.

    "There is no reproach in my words ..." (c) Sorry, if it seemed to you that I was reproaching you for something. I just answered your previous question about what exactly I wanted to say hi

    Quote: Radikal
    Well, what source are you? Trusted, trusted, verified, or something else?

    I, in this case, not a source, but a transmission link.
    In our house there were PSS of Lenin and Stalin. I first built barricades from them, then wrote term papers, diplomas, and even candidates' ones on them ... And already, “History of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks. Short Course,” I could once quote whole chapters in memory. So, with knowledge of the materiel, everything is in perfect order with me. hi

    Firstly, you said about the materiel - I didn’t offer this (Armor to help you), but if you are such a keeper of the collected works, I’m ready to receive them for free. Or do you want money? Ready to cooperate. bully