The first tanker of the Aframax type was launched at the Far Eastern SSK Zvezda

The first tanker of the Aframax type was launched at the Far Eastern SSK Zvezda

The first Russian tanker of the Aframax type, Vladimir Monomakh, was launched. The ceremony was held at Zvezda Shipbuilding Complex LLC in the Big Stone of Primorsky Territory, Zvezda press service reported.


The report said that a new generation tanker designed to meet high environmental safety standards was launched. The main and auxiliary power plants can operate on both traditional and environmentally friendly fuels - liquefied natural gas. The length of the vessel is 250 meters, width 44 meters, deadweight 114 thousand tons, speed 14,6 knots, ice class ICE-1A. The main purpose is oil transportation.

It is specified that the construction of 12 tankers of this type is in the Zvezda's portfolio of orders. At present (taking into account the launched ones), 4 tankers are on the outfit of the Zvezda building, in February a steel cutting ceremony was held for the fifth. All tankers are designed for Rosneft.

Let us clarify that at the present time the Zvezda shipbuilding complex has not yet been completed, construction is being carried out in two stages. To date, the facilities of the first extended lineup have been commissioned: a hull production unit, paint booths, an open heavy outfit with a fleet of unique cranes and an advanced ship-transport system, a transport and transfer dock.

With the commissioning of the second stage, Zvezda will be able to build ships and marine equipment without any restrictions. The second stage includes: a dry dock and additional production workshops of a full cycle for the construction of large vessels and marine equipment. The shipyard is fully ready for 2024.

According to the bmpd blog, the actual assembly of the tanker hull took place at Zvezda. At the same time, the ship’s cargo sections were manufactured at the enterprise, and the fore and aft sections of the hull were manufactured by the South Korean company Hyundai Samho Heavy Industries in Samho-Yup (Yongam) and delivered to Big Stone by sea.

Full localization of production at Zvezda will be introduced gradually and will take at least 4 years.
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Shipbuilding complex "Star"
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  1. Al Asad 13 May 2020 11: 54 New
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    What a name for a tanker is too cool. Like a warship
    1. Civil 13 May 2020 12: 00 New
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      The length of the vessel is 250 meters, width 44 meters, deadweight 114 thousand tons, speed 14,6 knots, ice class ICE-1A. The main purpose is oil transportation.

      The pride of the civilian fleet, which means it will deal with the Northern delivery, will bring fuel in its tanks for the development of the Far North, for the workers of the Solar Arctic. No, well, he will not carry our oil under the Panamanian flag to the decaying West or to China.
      1. Tiksi-3 13 May 2020 12: 13 New
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        Quote: Civil
        No, well, he will not carry our oil under the Panamanian flag to the decaying West or to China.

        it is for these purposes that the entire series is laid down and for no other ..... it is spelled out in the leasing contract
      2. tech3030 13 May 2020 12: 28 New
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        Nobody appreciated sarcasm!
      3. andrey-ivanov 13 May 2020 15: 18 New
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        The main purpose is oil transportation

        What is the northern delivery? Everything has already been said. Most likely, Sakhalin oil will be dragged by the cordon - South Korea, Japan, China.
      4. shkiper83 19 May 2020 07: 20 New
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        To import oil to the north? You are a comedian)))))
    2. KVU-NSVD 13 May 2020 12: 01 New
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      Quote: Al Asad
      What a name for a tanker is too cool. Like a warship

      Moreover, it duplicates it. "Vladimir Monomakh" - APRKSN project Borey, is serving. For good, they should rename it, otherwise it’s somehow wrong ..
      1. Insurgent 13 May 2020 12: 12 New
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        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        Moreover, it duplicates it. "Vladimir Monomakh" - APRKSN project Borey, is serving. For good, they should rename it, otherwise it’s somehow wrong ..

        No no let dill in twins tears "from fierce hatred" that Russia "usurped the Kiev prince Monomakh" ...

        1. Insurgent 13 May 2020 12: 19 New
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          And yet, from the category of marginal insanity (a fact from the life of the prince, of course, Ukrainian wassat according to the Ukrainian diplomat-historian):

          Ukrainian diplomat and historian Alexander Levchenko published a material on the Obozrevatel portal under the heading “Vladimir Monomakh is an Oxford graduate and the pride of the Kiev state.”

          “The Grand Duke of Kiev Vladimir Monomakh was born in 1053,” the author reports, “he was the son of Pereyaslav Prince Vsevolod Yaroslavovich and the Byzantine Princess Mary of the Monomakh family. Thus, on the female side, he was a direct descendant of the ancient Roman emperors, and on the paternal side, he was the grandson of the Grand Duke of Kiev Yaroslav the Wise. ”

          What ancient emperors the author has in mind is not very clear. The Macedonian dynasty of the Byzantine emperors, to which Monomakhs belong, had nothing to do with the emperors of Ancient Rome. But Mr. Levchenko is not trying to prove anything. He, as they say, does not reflect, but distributes.

          The main historical sensation was made by the Ukrainian diplomat in the headline: "Vladimir Monomakh is a graduate of Oxford."

          “In 1070, he marries Gita, the daughter of the English king Harold, who died in the battle with the Normans at Hastings in 1066,” sets out Levchenko’s biography of his hero. - Vladimir met Gita at a young age when he studied at Oxford. After the death of her father, Gita, her relatives moved to Sweden, from where Vladimir took her and married him. ”

          As you can see, there are no "probably" and "maybe" here. Monomakh was a student at an English university - and that’s the point.


          Full: https://aif.ru/politics/world/lozh_posla_levchenko_uchilsya_li_vladimir_monomah_v_oksforde
          1. KVU-NSVD 13 May 2020 12: 54 New
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            Have fun thanks laughing
          2. bk316 13 May 2020 18: 44 New
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            Monomakh was a student at an English university - and that’s the point.

            Well at least not American laughing
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          1. Insurgent 13 May 2020 14: 22 New
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            Quote: Sky Strike fighter
            Who usurped Vladimir Monomakh? Do they know where he comes from?
            Vladimir Vsevolodovich Monomakh (other Russian: Volodimir (-mѣr) Monomakh; in the baptism of Vasily; May 1053–19, 1125) - Prince of Rostov (1066-1073), Prince of Smolensk (1073-1078), Chernigov (1078-1094), Pereyaslavsky (1094–1113), Grand Duke of Kiev (1113–1125), statesman, military leader, writer, thinker.

            I don’t want to, but I’ll have to disappoint you that you are not right in determining the birthplace of the future prince, who does not make him “Ukrainian,” since there was no smell of Ukraine there.

            He was born in the capital city of Kiev, the center of the then Kievan Rus (data below). And please note that they were not taken from some dill resource, but from a quite adequate, Russian: https://информа.рус/владимир-мономах/биография/

            Childhood and adolescence

            Vladimir was born in Kiev in 1053 during the lifetime of his grandfather Yaroslav the Wise. His childhood passed in Pereyaslavl, subjected to constant raids of the Polovtsy. The surviving sources make it impossible to trace the circumstances of the first years of life, but we can assume that they proceeded in the same way as other princes. At the age of 3 years, Vladimir had to undergo tonsure - this was the custom of initiating a boy from a noble family into men. Usually the father gave the child a horse and seated him on it. Then the prince was cut off a lock of hair in a sign that he had become an adult.
      2. Grits 13 May 2020 14: 16 New
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        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        Moreover, it duplicates it. "Vladimir Monomakh" - APRKSN project Borey, is serving. For good, they should rename it, otherwise it’s somehow wrong.

        For good, tankers with the names Yuri Dolgoruky, Prince Vladimir should leave. Generalissimus Suvorov, etc. Let, confused and afraid, bastards ...
        1. KVU-NSVD 13 May 2020 14: 21 New
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          Yeah, I present the headlines - "Vladimir Monomakh" went to the port so-and-so. Oil prices skyrocketed. "
      3. Seaflame 14 May 2020 23: 01 New
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        Not infrequently, the namesakes of warships in the merchant fleet and in the USSR came across.
    3. Vasyan1971 13 May 2020 12: 15 New
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      Quote: Al Asad
      What a name for a tanker is too cool. Like a warship

      Yes, there is already one, moreover. This is to confuse the adversaries?
    4. tihonmarine 13 May 2020 13: 16 New
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      Quote: Al Asad
      What a name for a tanker is too cool. Like a warship

      The name gives the shipowner what he wants, and this will give. I liked that one of these tankers was called "Victor Konetskiy."
      Well, according to Afromax, what can I say, an ordinary medium tanker, there are hundreds of such ships on the seas and oceans. For reference, in the USSR since 1975 6 tankers of the Crimea type with a deadweight of 150 tons were built in Kerch. Many Afromaks are already being charged, so in 000 out of 2018 tankers that shipowners decided to get rid of, 100 belong to the Aframax class, 46 to the VLCC, 34 to Suezmax.
      On the "Star" so far, only the assembly. All devices are imported, including the power plant. The tanker is not bad, so with the initiative of you guys continue to build and develop Russian shipbuilding.
      1. orionvitt 13 May 2020 14: 07 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        of the 100 tankers that shipowners decided to dispose of, 46 are Aframax,

        Yes, but the new ones, as I understand it, were built on purpose, with the ability to walk in high latitudes. Where the ice situation leaves much to be desired. Accompanied by an icebreaker of course.
      2. shkiper83 19 May 2020 07: 24 New
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        Yuri Senkevich is also a good name for the ship. The PMPV series was named after the leaders of the Primorsky Shipping Company, also worthy people.
        1. tihonmarine 19 May 2020 09: 24 New
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          Quote: shkiper83
          Yuri Senkevich is also a good name for the ship. The PMPV series was named after the leaders of the Primorsky Shipping Company, also worthy people.

          It is very beautiful.
    5. nycsson 14 May 2020 18: 51 New
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      The main purpose is oil transportation !!! belay What can I say. Mortgaged a long time ago, probably. Again all the money down the drain ..... request
      1. Cormorants 15 May 2020 08: 53 New
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        Russia is only engaged in the collection of the ship and the production of the middle part of the hull with holds. Almost the entire ship is made by Koreans. About engines and say no. But still, it’s at least something, jobs and the hope that over time the share of imported parts will fall.
  2. Aleksey Aleksandrovich 13 May 2020 11: 55 New
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    It turns out we are not quite bezakolonka?
    1. Cowbra 13 May 2020 11: 58 New
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      It turns out that the United States was not a gas station at all, and they have a panic in the country about this. What's wrong with a gas station? Here. And in the USA they know this better than us.
    2. Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      It turns out we are not quite bezakolonka?


      If we were not a gas station, then we have a national currency exchange rate that would not depend on the price of oil, and so everyone can clearly see what we are
      1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich 13 May 2020 12: 41 New
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        Or maybe today's assessment of the ruble and its binding to the price of oil is not the essence of the point? I am not an economist, but for some reason it seems to me that the current ruble exchange rate is crap. Maybe the ruble should be valued somehow differently?
        1. tihonmarine 13 May 2020 14: 47 New
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          Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
          I am not an economist, but for some reason it seems to me that the current ruble exchange rate is crap.

          The ruble exchange rate depends on how much Russia buys at an auction of dollars.
        2. Glory1974 13 May 2020 15: 31 New
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          Maybe the ruble should be valued somehow differently?

          Bigmack index is estimated. According to his dollar costs 35-40 rubles.
        3. lis-ik 13 May 2020 17: 14 New
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          Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
          I am not an economist, but for some reason it seems to me that the current ruble exchange rate is crap. Maybe the ruble should be valued somehow differently?

          You are a little right. The course is artificially low, in favor of the owners of such tankers.
          1. Cowbra 13 May 2020 19: 18 New
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            Not this way. There are a lot of criteria, by the way, the dollar is also not tied to oil. Otherwise, an unattached Yuan would cost a lot more now. winked
    3. Grits 13 May 2020 14: 23 New
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      Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      It turns out we are not quite bezakolonka?

      Well yes. We can also bolt and weld pieces of iron brought from China and Korea.
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          1. Cowbra 13 May 2020 19: 21 New
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            Like this:

            Well, these call themselves Russian. Who are they? Yes the film, "They Fought for the Homeland" -
            I thought, Nekrasov, that you are a Russian person. And you, it turns out, shit of unknown nationality.
    4. lis-ik 13 May 2020 17: 12 New
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      Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      It turns out we are not quite bezakolonka?

      So far, absolutely.
    5. ALARI 14 May 2020 08: 38 New
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      A gas station is when they sell gasoline, and we have oil, so it's an oil pump.
    6. nycsson 14 May 2020 18: 54 New
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      Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      It turns out we are not quite bezakolonka?

      Of course, everything that provides the "pipe" is developed normally .....
  3. Mountain shooter 13 May 2020 11: 56 New
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    What a news!!! Both the shipyard was built and the ship was already lowered. And you can’t say that the Chinese were repainted.
    Real large shipyard. And for the release of the ice class tankers. On the NSR in the "both directions" to carry oil. From the northern deposits. Nothing in this scheme is not logical. Everything is "in place" ... and its own tanker fleet ...
    1. donavi49 13 May 2020 12: 02 New
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      Well, it’s actually finished the Korean wink . Now it came ready from Korea. The next one will be about the same way. In 4 years there will be the first one built at this shipyard.



      Scope of work Stars join Korean groundwork.
      1. Mountain shooter 13 May 2020 12: 08 New
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        Quote: donavi49

        Scope of work Stars dock to Korean backlog

        I didn’t know ... well, then there was a little less enthusiasm. But still, even so ...
      2. user1212 13 May 2020 12: 14 New
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        According to the bmpd blog, the actual assembly of the tanker hull took place at Zvezda. At the same time, the ship’s cargo sections were manufactured at the enterprise, and the fore and aft sections of the hull were manufactured by the South Korean company Hyundai Samho Heavy Industries in Samho-Yup (Yongam) and delivered to Big Stone by sea.
        Are you lying or bmpd?
        1. Angelo Provolone 13 May 2020 12: 25 New
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          Well, yes there, a little freight, a little made. No one is lying. They just don’t agree that they did a little bit at SSK.
          1. Interlocutor 13 May 2020 15: 24 New
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            Half the world so ships build. The floor of the ship in one enterprise, the floor in another.
        2. donavi49 13 May 2020 12: 28 New
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          I even added the film below, where they showed how they made this tanker.

          BMPD correctly writes everything. The star made one small cargo section. Here on this photo you can see it. And was engaged in some configuration from external subcontractors + docking of two sections + launch of all systems.


          This is generally normal. The next one will be similar, with a bit more localization. Their tanker will be delivered in 4 years. However, this tanker in Korea was also built by Star specialists, only on Hyundai. Again, watch a half-hour movie if you're interested in the shipyard and its features wink .
          1. user1212 13 May 2020 13: 16 New
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            Quote: donavi49
            I even added the film below, where they showed how they made this tanker.

            I repent, not yet familiarized
            Quote: donavi49
            Star made one small cargo section

            This is where I lose my mind laughing
            The tanker is the cargo section "with the engine" wassat if you really simplify. What did the Star make? One of the cargo sections? All cargo sections? Or just docked ready? request
            1. Kisa 13 May 2020 17: 53 New
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              The news announcement is slightly superior to the event itself. Yes, it would be cheaper to lure the tank in the same place in Korea and drive the finished one. but for starters, this is enough - testing the split of all the adjacent units of the infrastructure is not an easy process, especially if the shipyard is in a clean field from scratch. there is not much enthusiasm but there is a positive direction.
              I remember about 15 years ago, a hundred-thousand-year-old with STX (Hyundai's competitor) was also taken away for a month there they lived a house, they gave a house with a car, they would only be pleased to sign it. at the entrance, the patrol gave honor in the mornings to charging on a shipyard for each unit for 30 people ... then the tests started reversing the de-energization of the overspeed fade .... chaos. specialists there of course cool technicians in 2 hours opened closed the cylinder on the main. then a warranty year - 3 or 5 minor remarks, it was very nice. they then stamped the tanker for 9 months from bookmark to launch.
              there was still experience with the Shanghai shipyard - it was terrible for the car - I sat there a new tanker - all these disposable refrigerators expanded and galvanized pipes flow outboard .... but it was when they started to fill them with current marks at that time It’s fashionable to haul Chinese quality, but they quickly learned, it seems, they brought it to the level, although they also started doing it on the knee ...
              1. Motorist 13 May 2020 20: 42 New
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                Pussycat hello hi, I remember you - in March you heated the fuel to 300 ° C.
                cool technics in 2 hours opened closed the cylinder on the main

                What kind of engine? How many people? With a full decoupling? Did you get a piston? Even if without a piston - 2 hours sounds unrealistic. request
                1. Kisa 14 May 2020 00: 42 New
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                  Hey. Yes, it’s not me who was warming))) there was about technology where now about ceramic spraying. I just had the same shock. If an ordinary old engine eats 380 th with a density of 0.98 and warms up to 140 then it ate shit under 600 centistokes at 50 and density 1.1 heavier than water. I had this topic about 15 years ago in certification. Right now, everything is in the opposite direction -Baltic California Gulf everywhere you have to go easy with this ecology.
                  The engine is the same B&W Korean Lysesia (then still separately from MAN) without electronic camshaft then only appeared on top of the cover more than any hydraulic city. We were dragged back after the sitrail with the Koreans (each maker showed his master, boilers, cargo, refka..haos) and these Burmeister men 6-8 opened all 6 cylinders only to show the condition of the rings (it was removed the covers that unhooked the crossheads)
                  1. Motorist 14 May 2020 20: 36 New
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                    The heaviest RMK700 needs to be heated to 160 ° C to get 10 cSt (although 15 is enough for the main one). Its density is a maximum of 1,01.

                    Why disassemble whole engine after running? I observed 1 cylinder, plus ram, crank and crosshead bearings; the second piston was pulled out only on demand.

                    By the way, B&W rested in a Bose in the last century (annexed by MAN), ME-engines went under the brand B&W MAN (and now only MAN on the logo).

                    Good luck, colleague! drinks
      3. Paranoid50 13 May 2020 12: 31 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        Now it came ready from Korea.

        request request request
        At the same time, the ship’s cargo sections were manufactured at the enterprise, and the bow and stern sections of the hull were made by a South Korean company
        1. Bashkirkhan 13 May 2020 13: 04 New
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          Since the construction at the shipyard has not been completed and the full production cycle has not been worked out, competencies have not been fully acquired, the St. Petersburg tanker was built almost completely (with the exception of the small bow block of the hull) in South Korea by Hyundai Heavy Industries and with the help of the China, a floating freight transfer dock with a lifting capacity of 40000 tons was lifted to an open shipyard slipway. The bow block was assembled at the Zvezda shipbuilding complex from separate sections, which were also made in South Korea and subsequently delivered to Bolshoi Kamen. After docking the bow block with the rest of the vessel, the tanker will be launched. As new workshops open, localization will increase and competence will be developed, new personnel will be trained and trained at the shipyards of South Korea, the proportion of independently performed work will be increased, production chains will be debugged.
      4. orionvitt 13 May 2020 14: 09 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        Now it came ready from Korea.

        The article says that Korean, only the nose and feed. But if we assume that the ship consists of a bow that smoothly passes into the stern, then yes.
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    3. zwlad 13 May 2020 12: 38 New
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      would it be better not to build?
    4. tihonmarine 13 May 2020 14: 51 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Everything is "in place" ... and its own tanker fleet ...

      Is it your own fleet? Here is “Viktor Konetsky” flying the flag of Cyprus. I would tell a lot, but there is not enough room for comments.
      1. Paranoid50 13 May 2020 14: 54 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        He told a lot, but there is not enough room for comments.

        As an option - write an article. request
        1. tihonmarine 13 May 2020 16: 15 New
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          Quote: Paranoid50
          As an option - write an article.

          The tongue-tied I, and many will not understand. If the navy was just stupidly sawed, the WTO merchant and fish fleet were simply "tricked", and, smartly, they take envy. In the “office” where I worked there were about 50 large-capacity fishing men and dozens of medium-sized ones, 7 transports, 4 freezers, 2 floating depots, 2 lifeguards and a Kruzenshtern sailboat and 2 cruising yachts. First, the transport and rescuers were transferred to Kaliningrad, and during the collapse they transferred to Kruzenshtern. (All in one pile). Then went “Derban" without shame and conscience. That in the wrong hands, that on the needles, (only with the haulage of 3 fishers drowned for some reason), that they sold, that they seized. But after three years, the “kyrdyk” cantor, but another 15 years, a bankrupt commission worked. But when the Kaliningrad refflot was taken, it was already a bestseller detective led by a former political commander and then the head of the personnel department. Shipping companies in the same way lowered. This is all in brief.
          1. Quote: tihonmarine
            what they sold, what they grabbed. But after three years, the “kyrdyk” cantor, but another 15 years, a bankrupt commission worked. But when the Kaliningrad reflot derbanili,


            Well, if you hadn’t pulled it out, you would have gone to work on a 40-year-old ship now, I think not, so what are these memories in our IMF, the courts have exhausted their resources and the office has died
            1. tihonmarine 13 May 2020 18: 10 New
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              Quote: Humpbacked Horse
              Well, if you hadn’t done it, would you now go to work on a 40-year-old ship, I think not

              Derbanili then in 1991, when they were 10 years old, and now it would be 40 years old. But over the past 30 years, with the operation of the fleet, it was possible to earn new ones and with interest. And surprisingly, 40 summer fishery workers are still working in Kaliningrad and Murmansk, and now they’ve miscalculated the new ones. And the Chinese who bought our BATs and Super are still working in Mauritania.
      2. orionvitt 13 May 2020 15: 43 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        flying the flag of Cyprus

        If the lion's share of the world merchant fleet is flying the flag of Liberia, does this make it the largest and most influential maritime power?
        1. tihonmarine 15 May 2020 08: 43 New
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          Quote: orionvitt
          If the lion's share of the world merchant fleet is flying the flag of Liberia, does this make it the largest and most influential maritime power?

          And who told you that. that they need to be an influential maritime power. They have 80% of the budget due to the flag. You better understand something else, since it is extremely beneficial for ships to register under the Liberian flag. For example, a vessel sailing under the flag of Liberia will pay about 10 times less to the budget than if it sailed under the Russian flag when it would have to pay 20% of income tax, 35,6% of the unified social tax and other contributions.
          TOTAL: ABOUT 80% of the profit! Hello! Tax? Who told you that shipowners are complete?
          That’s all “arithmetic”.
          1. orionvitt 15 May 2020 12: 22 New
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            Tax evasion is an old and interesting game that is played all over the world. As for Russia, there is another, important nuance. If you take into account the latest trends in world Russophobia, incited in the West, where is the guarantee that the ship flying the Russian flag will not be arrested tomorrow in the port of Europe, at the request of some kind of Ukraine or Latvia? With them it will become. And so, the flag of Cyprus, or the same Liberia, and go all the forest. It is clear that someone else’s flag is not an order, but somewhere out of control, and somewhere not from a good life.
            1. tihonmarine 15 May 2020 15: 03 New
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              Quote: orionvitt
              If you take into account the latest trends in world Russophobia, incited in the West, where there is a guarantee that the ship flying the Russian flag will not be arrested tomorrow in the port of Europe

              Everything is simple with you. But the talking room is one thing, and where they arrest, normal people are sitting there. The world is just working, not talking. Have you seen many innocent ships arrested?
      3. Seaflame 14 May 2020 23: 07 New
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        So it is a long tradition with private shipping companies. I remember ofigel when I found out that Liberia had the largest merchant fleet, then they explained that it was more economical for a shipowner, and there were Greek, Dutch, etc. company.
    5. tihonmarine 13 May 2020 16: 48 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What a news!!! Both the shipyard was built and the ship was already lowered. And you can’t say that the Chinese were repainted.
      And here is a quote from
      https://maxpark.com/community/5206/content/6919941
      According to Andrei Belousov, adviser to the president of the Russian Federation, at a business breakfast at the Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok, the Chinese have already started to work and they have a “good salary”:
      "From my point of view, the personnel problem will come out by a wide margin. We have planned large construction projects - BAM, Transsiberian, ports. Who will do all this? Yesterday we were at Zvezda, they work in three shifts, all Chinese. And they get a good salary. Because in Primorye there is not a single contracting organization that could take on the job. "
      Why the Russian Federation chronically has no workers in the Far East, why people are deceived there and do not pay them money, and why many Russian construction companies end up bankrupt from Putin's mega-projects, is no secret. That is the policy.
      It is noteworthy that the Zvezda shipyard did not help the dead Russian mechanical engineering: all the equipment for it was ordered in China and partially in Europe. Also, it will not work to create on its basis its own center for the design of gas carrier ships. The shipyard will be only the assembly workshop of the gas carrier hulls of the South Korean company Samsung Heavy Industries. With the declared import substitution, it did not work out so much that, for example, the American corporation General Electric received exclusive rights to supply propellers and auxiliary equipment (propeller-steering columns and thrusters).
      1. Kisa 13 May 2020 18: 12 New
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        all this excitement with the Star I immediately had the first and main question - where did people get the specialists from - Big Stone is such a Zadrischen village 10 years ago ... in Nakhodka Vlada the giants of the PSRZ NSRZ DALZAVOD were killed, 10-20 thousand people each. the slipway of the shop is already overgrown with weeds that have not been destroyed ....
        the flank of the fleet is also notable with us; under Nazdratenko, the refinery of Batma Refa began at 50 units of the mining freezing fleet
  4. tanki-tanki 13 May 2020 11: 57 New
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    Thank you for message. How long will the fifth be built?
  5. Zaurbek 13 May 2020 11: 58 New
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    And diesel localize?
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      And diesel localize?

      This is unlikely. Moreover, it is a dual-fuel engine, either on gas or on heavy fuel. It is necessary to buy a license, to establish production ...
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        This is a smaller problem ... the main thing is to ensure the demand for such motors ....
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        Quote: kig
        It is necessary to buy a license, to establish production.

        Where, in which plant?
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          Where, in which plant?

          that's it
    2. zwlad 13 May 2020 12: 39 New
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      and where do we go from the submarine. localize. only time is needed
      Thanks to the "partners" opened a little eyes to who needs
    3. Seaflame 14 May 2020 23: 10 New
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      Diesels for the merchant fleet, even during the Soviet era, were mostly foreign (Vyartsilya, Sulzer, Burmeister, etc.). In Bryansk, the engines did under the MAN license, but production finally bent 15 years ago.
  6. donavi49 13 May 2020 12: 05 New
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    By the way, a good film about the plant, fresh.
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      The film describes the formation of stem. And I know for sure that this is the bow of the ship. Seem to be. that the Koreans did only the stern.
    2. Grits 13 May 2020 14: 51 New
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      Quote: donavi49
      By the way, a good film about the plant, fresh.

      Thank. Instructive film. Incidentally, it is necessary to take the little son to B. Look at the plant for a stone. My uncle works as a welder there.
    3. tihonmarine 13 May 2020 14: 56 New
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      Quote: donavi49
      By the way, a good film about the plant, fresh.

      In the cinema, everything is fine, as always we are advancing, and the Germans are retreating.
  7. Shadow041 13 May 2020 12: 14 New
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    Given the fall in oil prices, it would be better to repair a missile cruiser Orlan, Admiral Lazarev, stuck in the Far East, at this shipyard, since the Russian fleet is in extremely need of ships of the 1st and 2nd ranks, which the cat in the fleet of the Russian Federation, in a combat-ready condition, wept
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      sorry you forgot to ask what would be better
    2. voyaka uh 13 May 2020 12: 51 New
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      This shipyard is forbidden to use for the Navy.
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        This shipyard is forbidden to use for the Navy.

        And who banned?
        1. voyaka uh 13 May 2020 13: 03 New
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          Owners: Chinese, Koreans. In order not to get into American sanctions.
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            Owners: Chinese, Koreans. In order not to get into American sanctions.

            Very little time will pass and ...
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              Quote: Gritsa
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Owners: Chinese, Koreans. In order not to get into American sanctions.

              Very little time will pass and ...

              Those who all dug a hole for us will stick in it ..
      2. carstorm 11 13 May 2020 13: 01 New
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        why do you think so? plans for the construction of something for the Navy were voiced in perspective almost immediately.
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          Quote: carstorm 11
          why do you think so? plans for the construction of something for the Navy were voiced in perspective almost immediately.

          I also think so, or "comrade" of Israel, of course, more visible .. wink
          1. tihonmarine 13 May 2020 14: 59 New
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            Quote: Sektor
            I also think so, or the "comrade" of Israel is certainly more visible.

            Well, what is he wrong about?
            1. user1212 13 May 2020 15: 19 New
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              Well, what is he wrong about?

              And what is he right about?
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              Well, what is he wrong about?

              Difficult question .. hi
              Quote: user1212
              And what is he right about?

              They also drove into the brain laughing ..Tut Dostoevsky can only give an answer! hi
  8. NordUral 13 May 2020 12: 24 New
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    This is wonderful, of course, but to us, because of this proud joy, our oil across the seas will be rafted on the cheap. And gasoline is more expensive for us.
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      Quote: NordUral
      This is wonderful, of course, but to us, because of this proud joy, our oil across the seas will be rafted on the cheap. And gasoline is more expensive for us.

      Well, it’s not necessary in tankers, just carry oil .. The main technology was mastered, and there it will be seen what and how .. hi
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        I agree on technology. But who do they benefit?
        1. Okolotochny 13 May 2020 13: 15 New
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          Well, ka, "respected" adept of the "sect of leaving," remind ka, in what year did the Gas in Exchange for Pipes program operate and what government lobbied and launched it? They could not produce pipes of suitable diameter.
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            The transition to the export of oil and gas to the West is a huge mistake of the USSR.
            Although, in my opinion, this was not a mistake, but a deliberate action to seize part of the oil and gas currency funds for the subsequent privatization of property after the assassination of the USSR.
            And through pipes - they were not needed for the time being. They could have done it themselves, as much as they could, which most countries are still not capable of.
            And another point was in this gas-pipe deal - it’s easier to hide stolen from the sale of oil and gas.
            70-80s the most muddy years of our history.
            1. voyaka uh 13 May 2020 16: 19 New
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              Someone smart whispered in his ear to Comrade Brezhnev that long, long
              oil pipeline Friendship designed for pumping oil
              from Samatlor to the Warsaw Pact countries, it is necessary to extend a little more. smile
              To capitalist Hamburg. belay
              And then such a dam went ... Currency, any barter and luxury goods
              for the top of the CPSU, and the long-awaited consumer goods for the people.
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                It was like that. Thawed too much into power climbed
              2. Okolotochny 13 May 2020 18: 08 New
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                So plus a political bonus to this pile - Germany refused to follow US policy.
      2. tihonmarine 13 May 2020 15: 05 New
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        Quote: Sektor
        Well, in tankers it’s not necessary, just carry oil.

        On your tankers and "torn kuhvayki" you can carry, and oranges in barrels.
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Sektor
          Well, in tankers it’s not necessary, just carry oil.

          On your tankers and "torn kuhvayki" you can carry, and oranges in barrels.

          And the paratroopers, as well as through the pipes of the Nord Stream to Europe))) Joke bully
          Quote: NordUral
          The transition to the export of oil and gas to the West is a huge mistake of the USSR.
          Although, in my opinion, this was not a mistake, but a deliberate action to seize part of the oil and gas currency funds for the subsequent privatization of property after the assassination of the USSR.

          It is entirely possible ..SSSR was a self-sufficient country and someone "cunningly suggested" oil to sell gas to the west .. VALYUTA and other nishtyaks, etc. And it started! negative
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            Quote: Sektor
            And the paratroopers, as well as through the pipes of the Nord Stream to Europe))) Joke

            I love jokes, it’s more fun to live with them. Well, during the Soviet Union there were a lot of "wise men" who decided to sell gas and oil to the west. If there were no "wise men", then the humpbacked Bear would not have been put up as a general secretary.
            1. Sector 13 May 2020 16: 42 New
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              I love jokes, it’s more fun to live with them.

              Well, I also love, but to see we joked at the end of the 80s and the beginning of 90- = x angry soldier
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Well, during the Soviet Union there were a lot of "wise men" who decided to sell gas and oil to the west. If there were no "wise men", then the humpbacked Bear would not have been put up as a general secretary.

              Since the time of Stalin’s death, every “smart guy” has been seized from the “Tashkent front” .. (most of the ideological were killed in the 41st at the fronts, and then those who left the encirclement with arms and a banner were outlawed)
              Here are their children and grandchildren, they explain to us on Instagram and others who we are (maliciously), those who died, children and grandchildren living in memory and honesty ..
              Cruel? But indeed it is ..
        2. Kisa 13 May 2020 18: 45 New
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          there are small food carriers, too, tankers carry from a vinisse of malaysis juice to beef tallow. I had a contract in Vancouver stinky animal fat Pts loaded - go through the Pacific 35 days unload in Korea - immediately ship in Indonesia storin (palm oil) and back in a circle
    2. Nastia makarova 13 May 2020 13: 17 New
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      not only tankers will be built at this plant, but also icebreakers and military
      1. NordUral 13 May 2020 14: 51 New
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        It would be nice, Nastia Makarova. But while the rest of the tankers from this series, and this is a long song.
        1. Nastia makarova 13 May 2020 15: 58 New
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          it’s good that they are being built in our country and would be bought as before in Korea
          1. tihonmarine 13 May 2020 18: 02 New
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            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            it’s good that they are being built in our country and would be bought as before in Korea
            South Korea will be able to "turn off" the Zvezda shipyard at any time by tritely cutting off its supplies of components. Whereas in the Far East, the Russian Federation does not even have its own sheet-rolling production: the only workshop capable of rolling ship hire - at the Amurstal plant - was closed as unnecessary in 2012. Vessels on Zvezda are more expensive than in Korea or other shipbuilding companies.
            1. Nastia makarova 14 May 2020 06: 57 New
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              if more expensive then why build here ??? and you can turn off any production in any country
              1. tihonmarine 14 May 2020 08: 12 New
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                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                if more expensive then why build here ??? and you can turn off any production in any country

                You don’t understand anything. Well, when everything is foreign, even the stub and the feed, but only the middle part is Russian, the American screws, the Korean engine, pumps, equipment and navigation equipment are also imported, what kind of shipyard is it, just an assembly lousy factory. For my 50 years old, I have seen enough good and bad shipyards. South Koreans and shipyards have chic and most important equipment his, and the Chinese have the same thing, you come, just happy, but with us (as always). Even the steel rolling mill was stopped at the Amur plant. And there is not a single factory at the DCK for the production of equipment, to drag everything from the western part of Russia or to buy imported. so it turns out much more expensive. Well, how did you get in?
                1. Nastia makarova 14 May 2020 09: 40 New
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                  no!!! it means to close this shipyard and buy ships immediately abroad, even if nothing happens
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                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    no!!! it means to close this shipyard and buy ships immediately abroad, even if nothing happens

                    Well, can you imagine what a shipyard is?
                    1. Nastia makarova 14 May 2020 12: 27 New
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                      it's good that you do not control the development of the navy)))
                      1. tihonmarine 14 May 2020 14: 23 New
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                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        it's good that you do not control the development of the navy

                        He did not control the development of the fleet, but controlled the tanker. But I would like to ask you, "And who now manages the fleet and the development of the fleet?" And here is one answer. The fleet and fleet development are now managed by managers, journalists, economists, but not sailors. And thank God that I have nothing to do with this Caudle. Retrofitted.
                      2. Nastia makarova 14 May 2020 15: 09 New
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                        money controls everything now
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                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        money controls everything now

                        Sorry, sad. But this is not so.
                      4. Nastia makarova 15 May 2020 05: 48 New
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                        if not then why then sad
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                        Quote: Nastia Makarova
                        if not then why then sad

                        It's a shame for the state. I worked for 24 years with the Union. What was the fleet.
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                        this will not happen anymore, in the best case, as on a star, only assembly
  • tihonmarine 13 May 2020 15: 38 New
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    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    not only tankers will be built at this plant, but also icebreakers and military

    Look at the official website of the CCK, everything is described there. But SSK Zvezda is a private enterprise, and it concludes contracts. If there is an agreement with the Ministry of Defense, then they will build what they order. Reference: a project to create a center for large-capacity shipbuilding in the Far East is being implemented by a consortium of Rosneft PJSC and Gazprombank JSC and Rosneftegaz JSC. Today, the subsidiary structure of the consortium, JSC Modern Shipbuilding Technologies, owns controlling stakes in JSC Far East Center for Shipbuilding and Ship Repair, JSC DVZ Zvezda and 99,99% of the authorized capital of Shipbuilding Complex Zvezda LLC. DTSSS, in turn, is the managing company for the Zvezda DVZ.
  • Sector 13 May 2020 15: 49 New
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    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    not only tankers will be built at this plant, but also icebreakers and military

    I also hope for this .. And then they will start to drive for sale, like the currency is needed for payback, etc.
    And still not a bad Verf for Russia! And there you will see what’s what and how .. hi
    1. Nastia makarova 13 May 2020 15: 59 New
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      about icebreakers it was said here that there will be a contract after the complete construction of the plant
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        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        about icebreakers it was said here that there will be a contract after the complete construction of the plant

        Most likely it will be so, judging by the minuses of Nastya! love hi
        1. Nastia makarova 13 May 2020 16: 54 New
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          no need to pay attention to the pros or cons
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            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            no need to pay attention to the pros or cons

            Like no one here I know this Anastasia! love
            I'm afraid to let you down, but Russian women will save Russia again! hi soldier
  • zwlad 13 May 2020 12: 31 New
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    Quote: Humpbacked Horse
    Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
    It turns out we are not quite bezakolonka?


    If we were not a gas station, then we have a national currency exchange rate that would not depend on the price of oil, and so everyone can clearly see what we are

    the price of oil fell 2,41 times over the year; the rate to $ fell 1,12 times. yeah. directly depends
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      Quote: zwlad
      Quote: Humpbacked Horse
      Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      It turns out we are not quite bezakolonka?


      If we were not a gas station, then we have a national currency exchange rate that would not depend on the price of oil, and so everyone can clearly see what we are

      the price of oil fell 2,41 times over the year; the rate to $ fell 1,12 times. yeah. directly depends


      What else has fallen from serious currencies?
      Yuan? Dollar? Euro?
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        Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
        What else has fallen from serious currencies?
        Yuan? Dollar? Euro?

        Doujons for example (though not a currency)
  • Dikson 13 May 2020 12: 37 New
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    I would like to believe that things will not end with a "screwdriver" assembly, and the "Star" will be able to independently build large, serious ships for our country ..
  • Angelo Provolone 13 May 2020 12: 37 New
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    Koreans look at us like Papuans. they are gas carriers of the Arctic class, like baked cakes. everything is done from the body to the engine. full cycle. And we have put a nose and rejoice.
    It used to be a shipyard. Everything was done there, both the mechanical part and the body. Now they covered themselves with some kind of buzzword: "shipbuilding complex", "SSK". what is not clear behind this word. Fig leaf cover one place.
    1. zwlad 13 May 2020 12: 54 New
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      Koreans were once also "Papuans"
      1. Grits 13 May 2020 14: 53 New
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        Quote: zwlad
        Koreans were once also "Papuans"

        Once we were "white people". But slid to the "Papuans" compared to the Koreans
        1. zwlad 13 May 2020 14: 56 New
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          Then the country was different and the people too. You have to start somewhere. As in that song "Moscow did not immediately build ..."
          1. ALARI 14 May 2020 09: 04 New
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            Do you believe yourself that the revival of shipbuilding in Russia will begin from this plant? We again erected the roof before the foundation. First you need engine assembly plants, steel rolling plants, production of auxiliary equipment, and only then assembly.
            1. zwlad 14 May 2020 09: 14 New
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              Oddly enough, all the plants you listed in Russia will sound. I will not list everything. only on the engines where I was. in Bryansk and in Kolomna for example.
              We need slipways and the development of first large-site assembly (even from imported components), this is a new technology for our industry. then localization of the components down to the materials.
              a bunch of examples. for example AvtoVAZ.
              aircraft construction - the first strategic bomber. (the plant really was already)
              Rocket Engineering - FAU2 - P1
              The road by walking
              1. ALARI 14 May 2020 09: 51 New
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                Again, we get to the needle depending on imported equipment, we use it, and we will produce it later, when we master the assembly of imported components. And then why do our (expensive), buy it. Passed by. Hulls without engines still rust at the shipyard near the wall. And how many Bryansk or Kolomna diesels need to be placed in a given tanker, so that at least it moves empty?
                1. zwlad 14 May 2020 10: 39 New
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                  I don’t know how many of these should be placed. It is necessary to do new ones. The most important production is.
                  Quote: ALARI
                  And then why do our (expensive), buy it.

                  It's cheaper to do your own.
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                    It’s cheaper to do it if you already have a finished product, production, people, and if you start from scratch (like ours) then it is very very expensive.
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                    Why did we buy diesel from mana for corvettes before the age of 14, instead of upgrading production at the Star? It was cheaper and better. Until the sanctions were introduced, they did not even scratch their hedge.
                    1. zwlad 14 May 2020 13: 56 New
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                      Partners made it clear what needs to be done by themselves. Gotta listen
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                        And the minds themselves seem dumb.
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                        Well you yourself wrote that it was more profitable to buy. So they bought it. And during this time, competencies have been lost. Restore nothing will not go anywhere. Partners do not sleep
      2. bk316 13 May 2020 18: 58 New
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        Once we were "white people". But rolled down to the "Papuans"

        Papuan or white man is 99,9% in the head of this very person. Everyone from Mayndid to Bulgakov continued to write about this. So draw conclusions and do not speak for others.
  • carstorm 11 13 May 2020 13: 03 New
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    do you read across? Full localization of production at Zvezda will be introduced gradually and will take at least 4 years. there everything seems to be written in Russian ... the plant has not yet been completed. at the same time, localization will be completed and increased ..
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      And with remote control, too, will win in four years? or will Korean power machines be used like that? That’s the question .. We only have gas in the country .. - For a long time, we have to transfer the fleet from fuel oil and solariums to gas .. Sheathe a power pack with sheets, this is one thing, and ship cars and mechanisms are a little different ..
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        The engines there are not Korean, they are just manufactured in Korea under the MAN license, this is a new series of two-fuel two-stroke healthy cars
        By the way, there was also a plant in Russia in Bryansk that produced diesel engines under the MAN license (of course, completely different engines, in my opinion small, 4-stroke)
  • Nastia makarova 13 May 2020 13: 19 New
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    one more troll !!! this is only the first one and the plant is not completed at all, icebreakers and military men and possibly an aircraft carrier will be built there
    1. NordUral 13 May 2020 14: 53 New
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      And the whistles will be built, Nastia Makarova
      1. Nastia makarova 13 May 2020 16: 07 New
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        read about icebreakers
        http://www.sskzvezda.ru/index.php/ru/project
        1. NordUral 13 May 2020 17: 27 New
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          Nastia Makarova, Tankers, icebreakers, gas carriers - everything for oligarchs.
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            Tankers, icebreakers, gas carriers - all for the oligarchs.

            There is no need for oligarchs, read the dictionary.
            The fact that the capitalists, so yes, of course.
            They buy them build, you pay you stand.
            This is how the capitalist economy works.

            Yes, and the socialist is about as simple under socialism you would not have been sold the means of production, but otherwise everything is the same.
            1. NordUral 13 May 2020 20: 15 New
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              The oligarchs have nothing to do with it, read the dictionary.
              The fact that the capitalists, so yes, of course.
              They buy them build, you pay you stand.
              This is how the capitalist economy works.

              Yes, and the socialist is about as simple under socialism You would not have sold the means of production, but otherwise everything is the same.


              And who is it, Vladimir? And what kind of capitalists are they? Capitalists create capital, and these were stolen by themselves or their predecessors.

              Highlighted in bold - the main thing that I did not like in socialism.
              1. 16329 14 May 2020 11: 12 New
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                They did not steal, they simply assigned them and transferred property to them, in the country they decided to build capitalism (in 1992, if you do not remember), so they had to appoint someone to be billionaires, then change one of them, add someone to their number
                Those who did not get into the oligarchs do not advise them to envy, their work is hard and nervous
                1. NordUral 14 May 2020 12: 13 New
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                  Bikes are not interested.
                  Stolen and divided between their own, so more correctly. And then the natural redistribution of the loot.
                  Those who did not get into the oligarchs do not advise them to envy, their work is hard and nervous

                  What an imperative! Personally, I do not envy, I was quite satisfied with the scale of my work and the result.
                  And yet - do not know how to work or nerves are weak - do not climb up.
                  1. 16329 14 May 2020 12: 59 New
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                    In general, the state transferred the property through the mechanism of privatization and secured auctions.
                    In the process of privatization, someone got apartments, someone oil companies, and nothing to anyone, as they said in Soviet times “who studied whom”
                    1. NordUral 14 May 2020 13: 10 New
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                      In general, the state transferred the property through the mechanism of privatization and secured auctions.
                      Not the state, but criminals in power.
              2. bk316 14 May 2020 16: 09 New
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                Highlighted in bold - the main thing that I did not like in socialism.

                Dear Eugene, this is the essence of socialism, as soon as you were sold the means of production, you would become a capitalist. In terms of some, the enemy of the Communists. Classics have proved that it is the attitude to the means of production that determines the system.

                It turns out you are not for socialism, but for capitalism with a human face.
                Hence the question "what kind of capitalists are they." - All right, they are mainly gangster capitalists. For where did they get the initial capital? Of course steal snatch from the state. No more from where. BUT THROUGH THIS ALL THE COUNTRIES HAVE PASSED. ALL ORIGINAL CAPITALS IN THE WORLD WERE STEALED - obtained by robbery (feudal peasantry, colonies, natural resources).
                Is capitalism with a human face possible is a big question, but the capitalists who create capital will certainly appear - generations in 5 .... laughing

                But "criminals in power" - they are not criminals until it is determined by the court. But there will be no trial, because initial capital was necessary. Well, in general, wait 5 generations ...

                There is really a different way, but I’m personally afraid it’s closed to you. The new economic system is called. Kaspersky stole nothing from anyone, but a billionaire.


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                  There is really a different way, but I’m personally afraid it’s closed to you. The new economic system is called. Kaspersky stole nothing from anyone, but a billionaire.

                  I closed my path myself due to age and health. And I worked in free flight from the 89th. In general, it is quite successful, not without problems, of course, both large and small. And now I am having fun with what I did not do in my life.
                  At the moment, it has become interesting to make good acoustics for myself, which is what I am doing (the preparatory period).

                  And according to socialism - under Stalin this was possible and simply was. This is the kind of socialism I will support. Although state capitalism will quite suit me, it’s just not what is now in the yard in Russia.
                  And about Kaspersky, a good way, though his wife is there for the main thing.
            2. Nastia makarova 14 May 2020 06: 54 New
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              for companies all over the world everything belongs to companies and not to the state !!!! taxes to the state and workers
  • rocket757 13 May 2020 13: 06 New
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    All in all, this is a return to great shipbuilding!
    If possible, then after 4 years they will carry out a full construction cycle. Yes, they themselves did the “offal” Schaub from and to! They knew how to do everything, but does not necessarily refuse from a profitable partnership.
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      That’s good, Victor.
      1. rocket757 13 May 2020 19: 13 New
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        Thoughts are different, but I do not want to spoil the news, so be it now!
        1. NordUral 13 May 2020 20: 09 New
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          Well, we will not develop the topic. Good is what works.
    2. bk316 13 May 2020 19: 09 New
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      full construction cycle.

      Buildings, yes. But the production? Are you ready to start making engines for such ships in 4 years?
      Reactors are, of course, good, but the whole fleet cannot be made atomic.
      And we won’t produce so many reactors - the capacities are full.
      1. rocket757 13 May 2020 19: 20 New
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        That's right, the competencies for the construction of engines of this dimension have not been restored ... however, the USSR also bought a lot, since there were more needs than opportunities!
        It is necessary to restore the full cycle, but for the volumes manufactured, I don’t even want to promise .... I have to buy from the outside. In principle, it is not critical, if only the volumes are not enough. Seriously, then no one can make a mistake .. there will be no sense in that. they can only slow down the construction.
        Something like this. see how it turns out.
        1. Sector 13 May 2020 19: 26 New
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          Quote: rocket757
          It is necessary to restore the full cycle, but for the volumes manufactured, I don’t even want to promise .... I have to buy from the outside. In principle, it is not critical, if only the volumes are not enough. Seriously, then no one can make a mistake .. there will be no sense in that. they can only slow down the construction.
          Something like this. see how it turns out.

          Everything is weighed Victor explained! hi Hurray to shout for sure prematurely and it is not yet known who the "Master" is ..
          Here, some "comrades" hinted to us, but let's see who will work for whom .. hi
          Such things are in the Russian Navy ..
          1. rocket757 13 May 2020 19: 44 New
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            Such things, this is a long game, no fuss.
            Work is ongoing, people are specifically busy with an important business ... just wait, not so long if you look.
            1. Sector 14 May 2020 15: 28 New
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              Quote: rocket757
              Such things, this is a long game, no fuss.
              Work is ongoing, people are specifically busy with an important business ... just wait, not so long if you look.

              The work is on and let the dogs yap, they can always be put out with a kick .. good
  • senima56 13 May 2020 14: 12 New
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    "... the bow and stern sections of the hull were made by the South Korean company Hyundai Samho Heavy Industries in Samho-Yup (Yongam) and delivered to Bolshoy Kamen by sea ..." so, it’s not worth taking special pride so far. That's when we will completely build on Zvezda ourselves - then another thing!
  • Mustachioed Georgian 13 May 2020 14: 58 New
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    He served there urgently in B Stone in 1996, our boat stood 667A in the pentagon with the mines cut out and then dragged to Pavlovsk, there is now an abandoned base full of seams, the main work of the plant was to cut submarines with needles. as then.
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      Quote: Mustachioed Georgian
      Pavlovsk was dragged, there is now an abandoned base full of seams, the main work of the plant was to cut submarines on needles. Let it be at least as it is now, and not so then.

      So throughout the USSR was terribly .. Straight to the heart with a razor .. crying
      But we still managed to do something, and now we are raising, though the howl is rising again, "everything is lost" .. hi
  • Dmitry V. 13 May 2020 15: 39 New
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    We cannot accept VLCC and ULCC class tankers, therefore aframaks are the limit for our ports.
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    It is specified that the construction of 12 tankers of this type is in the Zvezda's portfolio of orders.
    if the oil price continues to remain at that level, it will be necessary to adjust construction plans
  • Rostislav 13 May 2020 16: 41 New
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    What difference does it make and where it will carry oil!
    The shipyard is working! Builds large vessels!
    It is necessary to rejoice, but not to whimper.
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      It is necessary to rejoice, but not to whimper.

      They do not know how .... belay
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      Quote: Rostislav
      What difference does it make and where it will carry oil!
      The shipyard is working! Builds large vessels!
      It is necessary to rejoice, but not to whimper.

      Yeah, we are happy .. Again they will start exporting from Russia laughing Now tankers)))
      Quote: bk316
      It is necessary to rejoice, but not to whimper.

      They do not know how .... belay

      We know how to lie !!!! Let our tankers be better than foreign ones in our ports .. hi
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        We know how to lie !!!! Let our tankers be better than foreign ones in our ports ..

        You can and can. But they already wrote to you:

        Tiksi, that he is not ours all but Liberian.
        And Nordural, that he is not ours but the oligarchs.
        And Ivanov, which is very bad because all oil will be taken to China.

        Get used to you. laughing
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          Quote: bk316
          We know how to lie !!!! Let our tankers be better than foreign ones in our ports ..

          You can and can. But they already wrote to you:

          Tiksi, that he is not ours all but Liberian.
          And Nordural, that he is not ours but the oligarchs.
          And Ivanov, which is very bad because all oil will be taken to China.

          Get used to you. laughing

          You get used to it son ..! soldier You think you’ve taken over the site and you can scream everything .. Well, well!
  • Radikal 13 May 2020 17: 04 New
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    It turns out we are not quite bezakolonka?

    Of course not. We are an oil well! sad
  • Scharnhorst 13 May 2020 17: 30 New
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    In four years, they will fully master assembly of buildings using Korean (probably the best in the world) technologies; go to the icebreaker hulls (put a nuclear motor in); in liberated St. Petersburg, nuclear destroyers will begin to be built; after the icebreakers in the Big Stone, the first aircraft carrier will be laid ... - Well, as I see, as a free artist, do not offend!
  • Taoist 13 May 2020 18: 38 New
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    Not, of course, an achievement ... at least somehow ... True, compared with 1974, it somehow does not look ...
    Tanker “Crimea” - project 1511, supertanker, steam turbo ship, class of the USSR Register R 4/1 (oil). Developed by the Central Design Bureau “Balsudoproekt”, built at the shipyard “Zaliv”, launched in 1974. The lead vessel in a series of 6 similar tankers built between 1975 and 1980.
    Length - 295 m, width - 45 m, side height - 25,4 m, draft - 17 m, deadweight - 150 500 t, load capacity - 143 250 t, travel speed 15,5 knots, steam turbine unit capacity - 30 thousand liters. with. Autonomy of 80 days. A total fuel supply of 9250 tons ensures a cruising range of up to 25 thousand miles (almost around the globe). The crew - 36 people [1] is located in single cabins, 45 cabins in total. There is a dining room, a mess-room, smoking rooms, a library, a workshop for individual classes, a gym, a sports ground and an outdoor swimming pool from public areas. There is a passenger elevator in the superstructure of the ship. "
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      By the way, the first pancake was lumpy, the series of the first Soviet supertankers turned out to be unsuccessful. The steam turbine installation turned out to be problematic. Most of their exploitation they were not on the go .. Experience son of difficult mistakes.
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    Quote: Sektor
    Yeah, we are happy .. Again they will start exporting from Russia laughing Now by tankers)))

    But for the transportation of brainless neighbors do not have to pay