But the rocket could also hit the US Navy ship: Captain 1st rank about the case at the Iranian Navy exercises


The Iranian command confirmed the fact that the missile launched during the exercises from the frigate "Jamaran" hit the auxiliary vessel of the Iranian Navy.


If initially it was reported that on board the ship hit by a rocket Konarak two people were killed, then over time, the Iranian Navy reported the death of at least 19 Iranian sailors. The ship, as previously reported by the Military Review, has sunk.

In connection with the incident in the waters of the Gulf of Oman, where a group of Iranian naval ships conducted exercises, various versions of what happened are expressed.

Especially for Military Review, the incident was commented on by Captain 1 rank, member of the expert council of the All-Russian organization Russian Officers, Vasily Dandykin.

Military expert:

Of course, here it is necessary to consider the issue of training crews and organizing military exercises. But I want to say that this is far from an isolated case. Unfortunately, the same thing happened with us - in the Pacific navyon the Black Sea.

Vasily Dandykin notes that there is some degree of probability that the enemy’s electronic warfare systems (EW) could work.

Captain 1st rank:

But here it is preparation, periodicity and intensity of military exercises that comes to the fore. This is preparation from the ship to the group of ships, when everything is trained and brought almost to automatism. Otherwise, disruptions happen. Now, of course, there will be a debriefing in the Iranian Navy.

Vasily Dandykin notes that the missiles hit their own ship (for the Iranian Navy), but a different character could have happened:

Can you imagine if the rocket deviated and fell into another ship. She could get into the US ship, watching the maneuvers, or some other. There is not much room for training with intensive firing, and therefore anything could happen, since there are many ships there.

According to the expert, in the first place in this situation, he personally identifies a failure in the management of exercises in the crew information system.

At the same time, the technical factor can play an important role - the state of the missiles, which carried out live firing.
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  1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 11 May 2020 14: 12 New
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    These are real teachings. In the exercises, a practical (training) rocket with an inert warhead is used. The rocket demolished the superstructure, but he stayed afloat.
    1. LeonidL 11 May 2020 20: 40 New
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      Beat your own - then the strangers for the whole case will scatter around so as not to fall under the distribution of the case! Well, the training is excellent both for the calculations of the racketeers and for the calculation of the ultimate goal ... emergency parties, rescuers, doctors ... tug teams, finally! The tugboat worked perfectly! Rocketeers for sure! The emergency team is great! ... Everyone is free - the exercises with live firing are over!
      1. Nikolai Grek 12 May 2020 04: 12 New
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        Quote: LeonidL
        Beat your own - then the strangers for the whole case will scatter around so as not to fall under the distribution of the case! Well, the training is excellent both for the calculations of the racketeers and for the calculation of the ultimate goal ... emergency parties, rescuers, doctors ... tug teams, finally! The tugboat worked perfectly! Rocketeers for sure! The emergency team is great! ... Everyone is free - the exercises with live firing are over!

        Isn’t too many dead for firing practice just one missile ??? !!!! fool
        1. LeonidL 12 May 2020 22: 04 New
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          Nikolay! Do you have a sense of humor?
          1. Nikolai Grek 13 May 2020 03: 47 New
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            Quote: LeonidL
            Sense of humor

            this is not your horse !! negative
    2. svp67 12 May 2020 04: 27 New
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      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      The rocket demolished the superstructure, but he stayed afloat.

      The Ukrainian steamboat Vereshchagino decided to cut off the path through the "closed squares" ... there, "where there hasn’t been anyone who has just skipped so easily"
  2. Vladimir61 11 May 2020 14: 25 New
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    It is better to understand what happened, it is only possible with the presence of a scheme for the deployment of all ships, in this square, Iranian and others. Not in vain, Vasily Dandykin, also mentioned electronic warfare equipment, which means that data on the work of these funds are also needed. And so, only general assumptions about the unprofessional actions of the crew or a technical malfunction. Standard versions of any incident.
    1. military_cat 11 May 2020 14: 27 New
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      It is necessary to look for who benefits. It certainly was not beneficial for Iran.
      1. Arpad 11 May 2020 14: 37 New
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        Quote: military_cat
        It is necessary to look for who benefits. It certainly was not beneficial for Iran.

        So it was not profitable for them to shoot down a Ukrainian plane.
        Now any lack of professionalism can be brought under the theory of conspiracy - but like who benefits from it.
        Reminds
        1. military_cat 11 May 2020 14: 48 New
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          Quote: Arpad
          So it was not profitable for them to shoot down a Ukrainian plane.
          This you very rightly noticed. And not only you. Many observers, including Westerners, noticed this too: https://topwar.ru/166992-zapadnye-smi-gibel-samoleta-mau-v-irane-pohozha-na-specoperaciju-ssha.html
          1. kjhg 11 May 2020 16: 01 New
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            Friendly fire during exercises is not uncommon even with us.
            And during the fighting, this is generally common. In the four-day war alone, 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. how many of our aircraft were shot down by "friendly fire"? Three? Four?
            1. LeonidL 11 May 2020 20: 43 New
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              Exercises in conditions as close to combat as possible. This is so that the service does not seem to be honey!
      2. Cowbra 11 May 2020 14: 45 New
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        Well, anything happens. You must admit that Ukraine, for example, was clearly unprofitable for Tochka-U getting into a residential building in Brovary, but they did, and obviously there were no electronic warfare systems working there. We, in the Russian Federation, also happened, for example, as an MLRS shell flew out of the range and grunted on the road. Alas, this happens ...
        1. military_cat 11 May 2020 14: 50 New
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          Maybe you and the version that the Malaysian Boeing was shot down by mistake when you wanted to shoot down the Ukrainian transport, you also admit?
          1. abvgdeika 11 May 2020 15: 00 New
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            Well, the Malaysian Boeing was shot down exactly by mistake
          2. Cowbra 11 May 2020 15: 12 New
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            Or, at about the same time, Putin was flying on a plane, was it just that he hadn’t bitten a pan and was flying over Kholopiya, unlike the Ukrainian fools at Buk’s consoles?
            Quote: military_cat
            Maybe you and the version that the Malaysian Boeing was shot down by mistake when you wanted to shoot down the Ukrainian transport, you also admit?
            1. military_cat 11 May 2020 15: 20 New
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              Quote: Cowbra
              Or, at about the same time, Putin was flying on a plane, was it just that he hadn’t bitten a pan and was flying over Kholopiya, unlike the Ukrainian fools at Buk’s consoles?
              And you want to say that if the potters thought they had shot down Putin’s side, they would not have announced it publicly? And what Russia began to accuse of all the irons even before the Boeing fell to the ground, you are also not at all worried?
              1. Cowbra 11 May 2020 15: 23 New
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                Quote: military_cat
                would they not have announced it publicly?

                I am sure they had no options. The downed board number 1 - the war with the Russian Federation without options, and they were dumb even in the Crimea to meddle - they were aware of the consequences. Therefore, for ykra, the only way out in such a situation is to yell about the Hiley likes, these Russian invaders shot their president themselves. Option - I will not say that reinforced concrete is reasoned, but let's say - at least
                1. military_cat 11 May 2020 15: 41 New
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                  No one in Russia would ever believe them. Therefore, they really did not have any options, except for one thing - not even thinking about trying to bring down board number 1.
                  1. Cowbra 11 May 2020 15: 57 New
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                    And what does it "did not believe in Russia"? It is not designed for the Russian Federation. Exactly like a fiercely curved bike, for example, about spies with ricin in Poland) Logic is at zero, but the whole world community can yell at highies like, and even unite in front of the threat of Russian aggression - well, if you had a tank ride to the Carpathians - it’s a threat, you bastards shot down his president and built a complete aggression! And who would believe this in Europe - those who now believe that the Russian spy was determined to have ricin with them, it’s interesting how, but at the same time they did not bandage it at least for the presence of OM at the airport. It’s about how I’ll get a Volyn, squeeze it into the police department, shake it, and the cops will say, “Oh, we, a terrible spy, we can’t arrest it, it's GUGS itself” laughing Bullshit, but they believe.
                    1. military_cat 11 May 2020 16: 12 New
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                      If the horses were capable of such a provocation, they would not have been draping in the Crimea like they were draping, dropping an unknown substance from their pants on the go. Shoot down board number 1 requires much greater courage.
          3. Cowbra 11 May 2020 15: 20 New
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            Quote: military_cat
            when you wanted to bring down the Ukrainian transport, too, admit?

            By the way, why don't you allow it? Firstly, even purely theoretically by the militia behind Buk. if there was a Buk - only "winds" could sit, and not salabons with round eyes - they simply would not be sent, but pros. Pros would not have allowed such a jamb. But ukro-air defense such a jamb already suited with the flight Tel Aviv - St. Petersburg, so you can believe it. And in general, judging by how the Buk before the parade - Ukrainian, yes, got into the wall of the shopping center, those banderlogs got into the crews, and now the jamb from them is not just acceptable, it is predictable! This is NOT a pro.
            1. military_cat 11 May 2020 15: 27 New
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              The same question as above. If there was a mistake, why did they begin to blame Russia before the Boeing fell to the ground? Why did Western officials immediately join these charges? And a bonus - why did the American Keyhole spy satellite hang over the crash site and why haven't anyone seen pictures of it so far? Are there too many coincidences?
              1. Mimoprohodil 11 May 2020 16: 50 New
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                Quote: military_cat
                why Russia began to blame yet before the Boeing fell to the ground?
                Who! The voices in your head?
              2. Avior 11 May 2020 17: 28 New
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                A hanging satellite is a new word in space technology.
              3. Cyril G ... 11 May 2020 17: 50 New
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                Because they themselves shot down and immediately blamed Russia, This is so in Anglo-Saxon. The style is felt ...
              4. bayard 11 May 2020 18: 41 New
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                Quote: military_cat
                The same question as above. If there was a mistake, why did they begin to blame Russia before the Boeing fell to the ground? Why did Western officials immediately join these charges? And a bonus - why did the American Keyhole spy satellite hang over the crash site and why haven't anyone seen pictures of it so far? Are there too many coincidences?

                All this because this special operation was not the work of Ukrainian, but American intelligence. And the American pepper that was responsible for the “borrowed” from the APU Buk, the Ukrainian SBU grazed very tightly (he even complained to his leadership) and even made a secret search in his hotel room ... And then it leaked this info through social networks - for the sake of self-cleaning, so as not to take on such a thing ...
                There was an aircraft technician from Dnepropetrovsk who heard the words of the pilot who shot down the Boeing: “It was not that plane,” there were dozens of witnesses who observed that the Boeing was shot down not by Buk, but by airplanes - one fighter hit from the Boeing echelon, and the second - attack aircraft Su-25, finishing it during a fall from medium to low altitudes, chasing.
                But the chief officers agreed to do rubbish about "yard, stake and bast" \ sorry - about Buk, and this mantra is being blamed.
                Well, yes, if it’s more convenient for everyone, let it be the Ukrainian Buk, which could have shot, but no one saw it, and it may not have hit the plane ... or damaged enough. So we made safety on airplanes ... I didn’t reach an hour before Russia, and there it fell ... Russia itself would have conducted the investigation ...
                But the "ensign" said "Buk" - means "Buk". soldier
                It’s easier to write off chance with him. wink
                1. your1970 13 May 2020 12: 31 New
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                  the commission was quiet in the Netherlands ... they got stuck with damaging elements and turnips are now scratched?
          4. Cyril G ... 11 May 2020 15: 23 New
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            No, of course, she aimed at the Malaysian, because they knew what it was, they hit him ...
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          7. Red Dragon 11 May 2020 21: 30 New
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            So shot down by mistake. Beech near Snowy. Do you have any doubts? belay
        2. AllBiBek 11 May 2020 14: 53 New
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          Yes, I remember this incident.
          In the Leningrad region in 2009 seem.
          And even fell on the hood of an SUV.

          The aunt turned out to be at the wheel, for which she could not read, although prohibitive warning signs about military exercises hung in a multitude.
      3. abvgdeika 11 May 2020 14: 57 New
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        I suspect that after all, NATO soldiers soldier
    2. nikon7717 11 May 2020 14: 33 New
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      The set of versions includes all the major ones. I’m interested in this rocket and Iran’s ships do not use friend or foe recognition. Or what conditions were there at startup. Without insurance.
  3. Mitroha 11 May 2020 14: 34 New
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    Reminded. smile
    "-Rocket went .." © "Features of national fishing"

    In principle, caperang reasonably outlined possible causes:
    Human factor
    EW operation
    The technical condition of the rocket
    What matters here is not so much the fact of the incident as the conclusions from what happened and the adoption of measures to prevent this from happening in the future.
  4. KVU-NSVD 11 May 2020 14: 37 New
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    Can you imagine if the rocket deviated and fell into another ship. She could get into the US ship, watching the maneuvers, or some other. There is not much room for training with intensive firing, and therefore anything could happen, since there are many ships there.
    Of course, Kaperanga knows better., But a non-Iranian ship could get hit by a rocket only through its own fault - the notice of closing the firing area for navigation was certain and popping there could only be at your own peril and risk. Generally rubbed in the target area - a bad omen .. checked ...
  5. Ravil_Asnafovich 11 May 2020 14: 48 New
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    According to international standards, conducting exercises of this level with shooting should be informed.
  6. tlauicol 11 May 2020 14: 53 New
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    650 tons. healthy boat
  7. Yaro Polk 11 May 2020 14: 59 New
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    "But the rocket could also hit the US Navy ship: Captain 1st rank about the case at the Iranian Navy exercises"
    The Iranians would say that this is force majeure, the Americans would have wiped themselves off, and would have sailed further .. laughing
  8. abvgdeika 11 May 2020 15: 03 New
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    It’s hard for the Persians to tell the truth !! But we still believe them from the first word laughing
  9. A. Privalov 11 May 2020 15: 06 New
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    Vasily Dandykin notes that there is some degree of probability that the enemy’s electronic warfare systems (EW) could work.

    In other words, a respected expert suggests that the Americans “with some probability” turned the Iranian missile onto their own Iranian boat? Cool!
    lol
    Here's what I tell you, there is no need to come up with difficulties where there are simple solutions and to blame the mistakes of the cranked Iranian missiles on the machinations of electronic warfare by malicious Americans. hi
    1. abvgdeika 11 May 2020 15: 10 New
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      He just veiledly admires the professionalism of the evil Americans hi
      1. Charik 12 May 2020 14: 00 New
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        Amazingly veiled anulingist
    2. Kurare 11 May 2020 15: 15 New
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      Quote: A. Privalov
      That's what I tell you, there is no need to come up with difficulties where there are simple solutions ...

      As far as I understand, they were voiced probable versions of the incident, and the use of electronic warfare is one of them. Dandykin correctly commented that during the investigation, one version after another will be discarded until they find the reason.
    3. sabakina 11 May 2020 15: 30 New
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      In fact, Alexander, what does America have to do with it? Well, the tanned guys sang their REP. Well, the Iranian missile went crazy with this REP. And where is the electronic warfare? request
      1. A. Privalov 11 May 2020 15: 39 New
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        Quote: sabakina
        In fact, Alexander, what does America have to do with it?

        In fact, Vyacheslav, did you somewhere in the texts of messages about this incident mention the American ships located directly in the training zone? Somehow I did not come across.
        1. sabakina 11 May 2020 15: 41 New
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          Alexander, a gopher is sitting behind you. wink
          1. A. Privalov 11 May 2020 15: 56 New
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            Quote: sabakina
            Alexander, a gopher is sitting behind you. wink

            Gopher laughs in an uncomfortable mink.
            A bug overturned.
            Laughing a hedgehog, rushing along the hill,
            I’ve moved completely off the coils, freak!
            Birds fly in strange circles
            And the filly neighs with foam from his mouth.
            The centipede jumps.
            From laughter, tears pour down at the mole.
            Squirrels laugh and fall from the trees.
            The owl laughs funny in the hollow.
            Laughs a rook until feathers fall out.
            And a fly with a cricket tipsy.
            Grasshoppers are laughing in the grass somewhere,
            A mouse, a snake, a lizard and aphids ...
            Iran hit its boat with its own rocket ...
            Hemp fields were burning ...
            1. fider 13 May 2020 12: 11 New
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              A. Privalov
              "Iran hit its boat with its own rocket ..."
              I would replace this line:
              "Iran was killed by its own rocket ..." and hereinafter. hi
    4. Normal ok 11 May 2020 19: 33 New
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      Quote: A. Privalov
      Here's what I tell you, there is no need to come up with difficulties where there are simple solutions and to blame the mistakes of the cranked Iranian missiles on the machinations of electronic warfare by malicious Americans.

      Occam's razor is a hoax from the world behind the scenes. Conspirology is our FSO laughing
  10. Ural Cossack 11 May 2020 15: 19 New
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    To do this, they drowned their tin can. To beware. And to blame the intentional situation for a mistake
  11. Graz 11 May 2020 15: 20 New
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    Iranian military personnel have a low level of training, as is the case with the Ukrainian plane
  12. BARKAS 11 May 2020 15: 29 New
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    Did the American ship continue to observe, or did it move away after the incident just in case?
  13. NordUral 11 May 2020 15: 40 New
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    notes that there is some likelihood that the enemy’s electronic warfare (EW) systems could work.

    And you don’t need to go to the grandmother. If not redirecting at all.
  14. Miron 11 May 2020 15: 56 New
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    U, not only did it hit, the US ships would sink, that's all.
    And everything would be very good.
    Do not swim near Iran, US captains. Or you will all drown.
    1. vladcub 11 May 2020 17: 40 New
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      And America has free hands! Does Iran need it?
  15. vladcub 11 May 2020 16: 49 New
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    In my opinion, there is a confluence of circumstances: 1 hand-wittedness, 2) preparation for exercises, 3) possibly “extraneous” interference ..
  16. tlauicol 11 May 2020 18: 29 New
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    the Swedes trained the other day. 6 volley launches with decomp. carriers
  17. Old26 11 May 2020 20: 45 New
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    Quote: Yaro Polk
    "But the rocket could also hit the US Navy ship: Captain 1st rank about the case at the Iranian Navy exercises"
    The Iranians would say that this is force majeure, the Americans would have wiped themselves off, and would have sailed further .. laughing

    Well, if the Americans were drunk or sleeping (or better, both at the same time) - they could. A subsonic missile traveling at an altitude of 50-120 meters is not a target that is difficult to hit ...
  18. shonsu 11 May 2020 23: 58 New
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    Well, if you hit the Americans, there would be a lot of stench. But another time would be watched from afar. From satellites for example. )))
  19. Old26 12 May 2020 12: 50 New
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    Quote: shonsu
    Well, if you hit the Americans, there would be a lot of stench. But another time would be watched from afar. From satellites for example. )))

    It is unlikely. Well, the Americans were not watching from a distance in a pair of cable. In addition, for sure, the US Navy ships were in readiness. And to shoot down a subsonic missile, going at an altitude of 50-120 meters - not such a problem