The dismantling of the monument to Konev in Prague was called "spitting towards the Russians"

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The dismantling of the monument to Konev in Prague was called "spitting towards the Russians"

The dismantling of the monument to the famous Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev in Prague is nothing more than a “spit in the direction of the Russians” and a desire to rewrite your own history, writes Milan Daniel in an article for the Czech edition of Časopis argument.

According to the author, both the dismantling of the monument to the Soviet Marshal and the "threat" to erect a monument to the Nazis are attempts to rewrite history by people who do not think about what fate Hitler prepared for the country. The allegations that there was no liberation of Prague by the Red Army, but was “occupation”, can be described as a “spit in the Russians”, in the hundreds of thousands of Red Army soldiers who died in the struggle against fascism.



Who dares to interfere in our affairs? After all, we are a sovereign country and at home we can democratically and freely do whatever we please, including demolishing monuments to heroes, arrange provocations, changing the addresses of embassies, and distort history

- Daniel sneers, commenting on the reaction of the Czech Foreign Ministry to the Russian protest.

What reaction of the Russians, who are proud of their ancestors, to the demolition of the monument was expected by the Czech authorities, the author wonders. Naturally, he writes, they protested in Moscow, after which the Czech Republic began to fan an international scandal, hiding behind the phrases that “no country can order us” and “Moscow specifically spoils relations.”

The author is surprised by the position of the authorities, who, instead of establishing equal and friendly relations with all countries, sided with Prague officials, allowing the "provocateurs" to influence state policy.

However, most of the citizens who have a historical memory, reason and reason are simply ashamed of such behavior in relation to a country that has done us nothing wrong

- summarizes Daniel.
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  1. +23
    6 May 2020 11: 31
    Let the Czechs even erect a monument to Adolf Hitler. During the WWII years, he loaded their industry well with orders.
    1. +20
      6 May 2020 11: 51
      Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
      Let the Czechs even erect a monument to Adolf Hitler. During the WWII years, he loaded their industry well with orders.

      It would not be bad for them, as Nazi allies, to bill for reparations. Lost the war, pay for the damage done. In full. laughing
      1. +12
        6 May 2020 12: 46
        The Austrians are afraid of this. In every possible way they pretend that with nothing and in general - a victim.
        Therefore, the monuments to our wars often contain better than ourselves.
        I had the opportunity to make sure.
        1. +11
          6 May 2020 13: 15
          Czechs from Russia already received their first answer for Konev: the night before last a group of young people in Chelyabinsk attacked with a sledgehammer at a monument to white whales (it seems he was standing on the forecourt) and walked hard with a sledgehammer at the monument.
          We need to figure out what is meaner and meaner: to mutilate the monument (I think that it can be repaired (young people, after all, not the hammers), or remove it from the pedestal and remove it from sight, so that there is no memory of it!
          1. +7
            6 May 2020 13: 55
            .... Dismantling of the monument to the famous Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev in Prague is nothing but a "spit towards the Russians" .......

            They spat on themselves, miserable fucking ... dki. Now the road to the Czech Republic has forgotten forever.
          2. +8
            6 May 2020 14: 14
            In Krasnoyarsk, the monument to the white-collars was located at ul. ARMY 25
            located in the Soviet district of Krasnoyarsk.
            Landmark - "Airborne". By the way, is it still worth ?????
          3. +8
            6 May 2020 14: 51
            Quote: hydrox
            Czechs from Russia already received their first answer for Konev: the night before last a group of young people in Chelyabinsk attacked with a sledgehammer at a monument to white whales (it seems he was standing on the forecourt) and walked hard with a sledgehammer at the monument.

            There are still normal guys in Russia. Monuments in honor of Czechoslovak legionnaires are not needed by Russians, as well as a monument to Czechs Konev.
      2. +3
        6 May 2020 15: 26
        Quote: Hagen
        It would not be bad for them, as Nazi allies, to bill for reparations. Lost the war, pay for the damage done. In full.

        It’s time to present! After all, the Czech Republic surrendered to the Nazis almost without a fight with the entire military industry (In the Czech Republic, about the production of weapons at that time it was one of the leading countries in Europe) So you’ll figure out how many of their weapons our Soviet people were destroyed .. And they blather bastards. Remember everything, we are not vindictive, but this will not be forgiven
        1. +2
          6 May 2020 17: 29
          So estimate how many of their weapons our Soviet people were destroyed

          A third of the Wehrmacht armored vehicles made in Czechoslovakia. Throughout the war there was not a single act of sabotage in military factories.
      3. exo
        0
        6 May 2020 16: 08
        Common Thought!
    2. +1
      6 May 2020 11: 56
      The time will come, they will repent.
      1. +4
        6 May 2020 12: 47
        Even when the time comes, they will not repent.
        1. +8
          6 May 2020 13: 19
          But the Czechs still need to remember that they were accomplices in Hitler’s invasion of the Union in the Yuryazyk language, and it’s not by chance that accomplices in the criminal language ask for this synonym for the language - such meanness has not been forgotten for centuries ... sad
        2. 0
          6 May 2020 15: 32
          Quote: Pereira
          Even when the time comes, they will not repent.

          And it depends on how you behave with them .. soldier Russia is still weak, but everything can change at any time .. Russia is an unpredictable country
          1. 0
            6 May 2020 17: 30
            Absolutely unpredictable. Who could predict the 5th place in the world by Coronovirus?
        3. +2
          6 May 2020 18: 32
          Quote: Pereira
          Even when the time comes, they will not repent.

          The time will come to know)
  2. +29
    6 May 2020 11: 37
    We will never be forgiven for the defeat of a united Europe under the banner of Hitler ... especially the Czech Republic ... an arms workshop for Reischwehr ... the grandchildren of the SS and other warriors / rapists / murderers / marauders today in power and in the European Parliament ... so they are trying to review and whitewash global European Nazism ...
    1. +7
      6 May 2020 11: 44
      And we, for that, trampled our land and killed our people ...
    2. +8
      6 May 2020 13: 31
      Quote: silberwolf88
      We will never be forgiven for the defeat of a united Europe under the banner of Hitler ... especially the Czech Republic ... an arms workshop for Reischwehr ... the grandchildren of the SS and other warriors / rapists / murderers / marauders today in power and in the European Parliament ... so they are trying to review and whitewash global European Nazism ...

      Welcome hi
      How much patience and unwillingness to offend a Russian person ...
      Why do not we declassify materials about the behavior of the Czechs on the eviction of the German population of the city of Brno (Moravia) and nearby villages in Austria, organized on the night of May 30–31, 1945. Also known as the “death march from Brno” (Bruno death march), in which the Czechs shocked everyone with murders and bullying of the German civilians, mind you, after capitulation! And, again, we tolerantly agree, on mortality, as if with dysentery.
      Or why are we silent about the real "Ustitsky execution" ... July 31, 1945?
      That's just tolerant of Wiki:
      ... The killings took place in several places around the city, simultaneously starting in three places in Usti nad Labem. On the bridge over the Laba, something provocative shouted out and a German Georg Shorguber was thrown into the water in a crowd, while trying to swim out he was shot dead by soldiers. Soon after, according to survivors, other people, including a woman with a baby in a stroller, were thrown into the river and also shot dead while trying to swim. This was followed by a terrible series of rapes and murders throughout the city, committed right on the street.
      The killings, according to eyewitnesses, were committed by the revolutionary guards (paramilitary groups), Czech and Soviet soldiers and a group of unidentified Czechs who appeared in the city before the events. Local Czechs tried to help the victims.

      In all cases, only the intervention of our soldiers did not lead to the total extermination of the German civilian population from the Czechs.
      Germans, ay! Didn’t you know?
      1. +1
        6 May 2020 17: 32
        Germans, ay! Didn’t you know?


        They have all these people under the article "Victims of the Communist Regime".
        1. +4
          6 May 2020 17: 44
          Quote: Pereira
          Germans, ay! Didn’t you know?


          They have all these people under the article "Victims of the Communist Regime".

          So it is necessary to declassify that the current Czech authorities would see their relatives in the executioners.
          1. +1
            6 May 2020 17: 47
            We ourselves can declassify anything.
            But the Germans and the Czechs will never know about this. Theirs media is not interested in this topic.
            1. +4
              6 May 2020 18: 54
              Quote: Pereira
              We ourselves can declassify anything.

              Yes
              Quote: Pereira
              But the Germans and the Czechs will never know about this.

              Well, that is unlikely. We also thought that the Warsaw Pact for a long time ...
    3. +2
      6 May 2020 14: 18
      The united west, where the whole west including fsh and the small ones supported fascism.
  3. +3
    6 May 2020 11: 42
    And where in the geyropa now the Germans do not rule ??? Again and again, the whole industry, most importantly, was submerged for itself!
    1. +5
      6 May 2020 13: 13
      Do you really think that the Germans rule somewhere? They cannot steer in their own Bundestag. Five years ago, a retired Bundeswehr paratrooper officer and deputy of the Bundestag made a loud statement in the press that the Germans were not sitting in the Bundestag. After that, by a strange coincidence, the parachute did not open at the next jump.
      1. 0
        6 May 2020 13: 35
        Only for industrial production indicated ..... for politics, there is a completely different compote-kissel. It should be considered as a separate topic.
    2. +1
      6 May 2020 13: 47
      they do not steer anything ... the US military bases since 1945 have been standing next to all major cities ... the occupation continues and the dictates of political will from across the ocean too ... essentially a puppet state on a long leash ...
      1. 0
        6 May 2020 13: 58
        He specifically pointed out, not for politics, for industrial production.
  4. +8
    6 May 2020 11: 43
    and how much a bunch of American Jews pays for the demolition of monuments? once when the borders of the USSR coincided with the FRG, the mechanism of revenge was promoted; now Jews pay fascists Poland Ukraine Lithuania-the border has shifted closer to Russia
  5. +17
    6 May 2020 11: 46
    What kind of reason, reason and shame can we talk about? What kind of friendships? Our army and navy are our only friends!
    It always has been, is and always will be! Do not even bother with some kind of friendship with someone! It would seem that someone, who is Ukraine, Belarus, these native peoples, and some of them jump and shout at Muscovites, and the president of the second republic said that Belarus suffered during the Second World War precisely because of Russia ...... Allegedly Hitler and not going to attack Belarus ..... Hair stand on end!
    And we still hope for gratitude from Europe .....
  6. +5
    6 May 2020 11: 48
    another shabizgo got his 30 pieces of silver ... now the soul hurts ... shakes and sleeps poorly ... awaits retribution ... complains about the commission in euros ...
  7. +2
    6 May 2020 11: 49
    Do not forgive !!!
    1. +4
      6 May 2020 12: 14
      About historical memory or “how the Czechs became White Czechs and ignited the Civil War in Russia.
      ..In late May - early June 1918, an armed rebellion broke out simultaneously in several cities of Russia, the Volga, Urals and Siberia, which overthrew the Soviets elected by the population and unleashed terror in these cities.

      This was the start of one of the bloodiest Civil Wars in history, which lasted until 1922 and which cost us about a million direct losses and several million indirect ones from accompanying epidemics and famine. "
      1. -3
        6 May 2020 14: 11
        Everything was very ambiguous there. The role was played by the fact that the officers of the Czech regiments were usually Germans (or Germanized), and the fact that the Red Army was real the wildest "local kinks". It all started in Chelyabinsk (by the way, I am a Chelyabinsk citizen, so I know the topic and it is close to me).
        Hasek could have revealed this better and, as they say, "first-hand". Yes, I think he wanted to do it, he just didn't have time.
        Everything turned out very ugly and bloody in the end, but the Czech regiments were not enemies for Russia, even if they were already revolutionary, otherwise they would not have been surrendered en masse and voluntarily from the very beginning (so famously and so often that Franz Joseph even had a separate directive I was forced to publish about the Czechs and assign to them the maximum number of trustworthy Cerberus officers).
  8. -4
    6 May 2020 11: 55
    And the dismantling of the Soviet system on the territory of Russia, the dismantling of the USSR - the victorious state, is this not a spit in the direction of the Russians ,,?
    1. +1
      6 May 2020 14: 11
      And here is the dismantling of the USSR and some kind of spit. Maybe it was necessary to put on the Baltic states, hoh ... fishing and other shackles and keep them as part of this USSR itself?
      1. +1
        6 May 2020 20: 31
        Why shackles, who shackled, dear 4ekist?
        In the year of the collapse of the USSR, a referendum was held on the advisability of maintaining a single state. 77% said the world's first socialist state, “YES”. ,, Ukrainians ,, issued 70%, by the way. The Baltic states did not officially vote, but those who voted in the territory, for example, military garrisons, gave, to the mountain, 95-98% (and what, they are not people, not citizens of their state?) Turnout is 80%. The people were for the ONE Union. The imperialists ruined the state (master of the world ,,,, world backstage ,,,, masons ,,,, satanists ,,,, ordinary people, etc. etc.) and Russian-speaking ,, natives ,, - traitors. They were helped by “bad people,” and, “foolish people,.” Ordinary PEOPLE did not orient themselves in time and allowed the swindlers to fool themselves. They tried to actively resist the villains in 1993, but failed, failed, did not organize, lost ...
        And the world's first state of WORKERS and Soviet power were dismantled ..., by the bourgeoisie, and homegrown, by the bad boys. About this and said in the comments above. What's not clear?
  9. +11
    6 May 2020 11: 55
    "The largest increase in Russian imports from the Czech Republic in 2018 compared to 2017 was recorded for the following product groups:

    Means of land transport, except for railway or tram rolling stock, and their parts and accessories (TN VED code 87) - an increase of USD 163; Electrical machinery and equipment, their parts; sound recording and reproducing equipment, equipment for recording and reproducing television images and sound, their parts and accessories (TN VED code 547) - an increase of USD 483; Furniture; bedding, mattresses, mattress bases, cushions and similar stuffed furniture; lamps and lighting fittings, not elsewhere specified or included; illuminated signs, illuminated plates with a name or title or address and similar products; prefabricated building structures (nomenclature of goods subject to foreign trade code 85) - an increase of US $ 47 888 553; Printed books, newspapers, pictures and other products of the printing industry; manuscripts, typewritten texts and plans (TN VED code 94) - an increase of $ 29; Alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks and vinegar (TN VED code 195) - an increase of $ 162. "
    Need to express your indignation
    point: "After a thorough study, we found an overestimate of 1%
    emission parameters
    car engine brands
    Skoda, low-quality sound recording,
    and the furniture has an odor, sorry. Therefore, until eliminated
    disadvantages, these products
    fall on the sanctions list. "
    These guys need to be taught financially.
    Bad memory - tighten your belts.
    1. +5
      6 May 2020 12: 06
      Quote: Doccor18
      Skoda car engines

      The State traffic inspectorate park is replenished with Skoda Octavia cars. All the latest news about the arrival of cars in the DPS regiments is only about Skoda. It is clear that they are produced in Russia, but the percentage of value added is many times less than in the same Lada Vesta


      1. +3
        6 May 2020 12: 43
        April 16, 1991 Skoda came under the control of the Volkswagen Group laughing
    2. +2
      6 May 2020 14: 20
      Now I will carefully need to study the country of origin of the goods. He refused the Baltic for a long time.
  10. +1
    6 May 2020 12: 26
    "Spit towards the Russians"? Czechs are at serious risk of dying from dehydration! :))
    1. +1
      6 May 2020 14: 48
      Dehydration often comes from diarrhea.
      1. +1
        6 May 2020 20: 04
        In this case, these two factors are successfully combined and complement each other! :)
  11. AB
    +4
    6 May 2020 12: 28
    I still can’t understand. How, our people and the government of the USSR, were able not only to forgive, but also to help all that these people can do.
  12. +7
    6 May 2020 12: 32
    I repeat.
    In place of the Czech embassy should be a monument to Konev!
    All Czechs are from Russia. 24 hours.
    1. -3
      6 May 2020 13: 44
      All Czechs are from Russia. 24 hours.

      If we all expel all in 24 hours we will be left alone.
      Question 1: is Russia able to be fully self-sufficient?
      This also applies to industry and agriculture. I think that it will not be able to.
      Question 2: will our political leadership agree to this?
      I think it’s not necessary for the forum participants to explain why NO.
      Well, in general, you probably have relatives, friends living outside of Russia, and the word self-isolation in this situation causes an ambiguous reaction.
      1. +17
        6 May 2020 14: 43
        That is, based on your comment, the Czech Republic, after the Baltic states, is our nurse? wassat
        1. 0
          7 May 2020 11: 07
          I'm not only talking about Czechs, look more widely. There are enough fools everywhere. But because of fools, you should not quarrel with peoples.
    2. +1
      6 May 2020 14: 24
      I think this is a mockery of our people. Let them gather and wander out of the country. Where is our Foreign Ministry?
    3. +17
      6 May 2020 14: 44
      Gap diplomatic relations and immediately. Enough of the West to be considered partners. West is our enemy.
  13. +4
    6 May 2020 12: 37
    Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia laughing In the electoral memory of the Czechs, a half-kilometer ambulance train, “a gift of the Czech people to the fighting Reich,” somehow did not “set aside”. Forgotten parcels with warm knitted gloves - “from mothers” to the Stalingrad “cauldron”, and friendly Nazi greetings from classy Czech workers, industry leaders sent to health camps for hard work for the victory of German weapons created by their skillful hands ... which kills Russians, Poles, Jews, Americans and English ... laughing
  14. +5
    6 May 2020 12: 46
    Something else worth mentioning.
    The Russian white emigrant B. Tikhonovich recalled: “The Czechs were incredibly rich in Jews in 1939-1945. They "deposited" Jewish jewels, paintings, property, and then wrote denunciations to former friends. There was a saying: "They (that is, Jews) will never come back from there anyway." Madeleine Albright, US Secretary of State under Bill Clinton, still has not returned the paintings belonging to her family and stolen by two Czech sisters from Prague. laughing
  15. +3
    6 May 2020 12: 54
    The Czech Gauleiter probably considers himself a civilized European, but in fact he proved that he is a cave troglodyte, who does not even have ghostly ideas about honor, decency and conscience. Even the Germans are not going to demolish the monument to the Soviet soldier in Treptower Park, but this is not the true Czech.
    1. +14
      6 May 2020 14: 41
      They have in their blood slavish worship of Western masters
  16. +1
    6 May 2020 13: 02
    Oh, it’s hard for the Czechs to atone for the Russian Ivanes Konev. And this bright future will come.
    1. +1
      6 May 2020 14: 27
      They went ..... where to hell, with the lessons ... there is nothing more to talk about.
    2. -3
      6 May 2020 14: 55
      And before S.K. Bunyachenko whom gentlemen the Czechs threw apologize do not want to? Maybe the Ruzyne airport on which the Luftwaffe aviation was based was liberated by 1 Ukrainian troops? Or maybe Petrshinsky hill or Strahov monastery also liberated 1 Ukrainian troops? Maybe the Czechs still remember who released them? And this someone was not quite Konev. You don’t allow this at all?
  17. +1
    6 May 2020 13: 58
    I think Hasek from all this nasty thing in a coffin is turned over.
    It is a pity, the man did not finish the epic about Schweik. But the fact that there should have been surrender to Russian captivity, the life of Schweik in Russia, comparisons of this life (and by no means in favor of Austria-Hungary and Germany), and then Schweik's return to his Prague apartment as a new person - this is unambiguous. Hasek essentially described himself in this novel (though under the guise of a voluntary Marek). And Hasek just about all of this passed. And he had only the warmest feelings for Russia.
  18. +1
    6 May 2020 14: 14
    Has Schnitzelreich decided that he can and is able to rewrite history? laughing
  19. +2
    6 May 2020 14: 33
    This is not spitting - this is war. In a war, you need to start by "hitting the cents of decision making." Well?
  20. +16
    6 May 2020 14: 39
    The dismantling of the monument to Konev in Prague was called "spitting towards the Russians"

    As if this spit in the direction of the Russian, Czech Republic, in the future did not return with blood.
  21. -3
    6 May 2020 14: 41
    In nature - pandas die out, cockroaches can not lime
    since the time of the pharaohs.
    In politics, Turkey inexplicably did not fight
    in the Second World War and the leg of the German soldier did not step on them
    land (I mean the horrors of occupation). What, Carl?
    Czechs - lived before, lived in time, lived after and LIVE NOW.
    AND DO NOT LIVE BAD, mind you. And it’s gas-free, without oil,
    without Siberia, without AUG (the seas were not seen in the eyes), without NSR,
    without Baikonur and Plisetsk, in short, without nifig at all,
    which some have higher than the roof. Moreover, they have a lot of money,
    on which they buy everything that someone dofig.
    What, Carl?
    1. 0
      6 May 2020 20: 00
      And do not go there and buy their garbage. We’ll get along somehow. They will immediately begin to stink in the EU.
  22. +2
    6 May 2020 14: 47
    Milan Daniel is a little inaccurate. This is not a "spit in the direction of the Russians", they spat in their karma. All Czechs will be judged by the actions of the scum.
  23. 0
    6 May 2020 17: 13
    There is only one problem for Czechs in this case:
  24. +4
    6 May 2020 17: 36
    Russia was very late with indignation and reaction to the continuation of spitting towards Russia, towards
    liberation mission of Soviet generals and marshals, towards the victory of the Red Army over fascism. But the first to whom the monument was demolished was a monument to Army General Chernyakhovskam
    in Vilnius. It was demolished in Lithuania back in the distant nineties, but for twenty years wagons and tanks
    with transit Russian oil and other transit cargoes of goods from Russia went and are still going to the port of Klaipeda. What are those who demolished the monument Chernyakhovsky, earned and is making a lot of money. And when Russia has now built ports in Ust-Luga and in Pionersk near Kaliningrad, everything is exactly Russia. Klaipeda port is loading with its transit goods. Although the capacities of the Kaliningrad and Pioneer ports would be quite enough to handle these cargoes, and from the entrance border to Lithuania, the distance is almost the same, both to Klaipeda and to Kaliningrad and Pionersk. And in Lithuania, together with the monuments to Army General Chernyakhovsky and the Hero of the Soviet Union Melinkaite, there are monuments to the minions of fascism to the leaders of the bandit forest brothers. So before you rightly be indignant about the Czechs now, first of all, you still need to understand Russia itself, why at the very beginning of these demolitions in Europe, Russia did not punish those who demolish these monuments. And then, off and on. Poland, Ukraine, etc. And on the part of official Moscow, it’s only the Foreign Ministry’s regret, which is equivalent to wiping its snot ...
    1. +1
      6 May 2020 20: 04
      A very good reminder. We will know. Hello to our legislative and executive branch !!!!!!
  25. +1
    6 May 2020 20: 13
    Stop the riot of fools. " The Czechs created a petition demanding that the authorities apologize to Russia for the demolition of the monument to Marshal Konev

    Source: https://e-news.su/news/326880-ostanovit-buystvo-durakov-chehi-sozdali-peticiyu-s-trebovaniem-k-vlastyam-izvinitsya-pered-rossiey-za-snos-pamyatnika-marshalu- konevu.html
    © E-news.su
  26. +1
    6 May 2020 20: 25
    Czech comrades can be tactfully reminded of a delegation from the Czech Republic that arrived in Moscow in 2017. Three aircraft businessmen and politicians led by Zeman. Economic forums were held in Moscow and Yekaterinburg. Chekhov was shaking at the thought that during the sanctions, the Chinese markets would take their products in Russia.
    Can I just remind you? laughing
  27. 0
    7 May 2020 00: 00
    IMHO, but the dog is with them .. The monument to redeem and put at home, the Czechs - on the black list ...