Armored car K4386 "Typhoon-Airborne" goes on state tests

Armored car K4386 "Typhoon-Airborne" goes on state tests

State tests of the new amphibious armored vehicle "Typhoon-Airborne Forces" for the Airborne Troops will begin in the near future. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.


In the near future, developers will begin state tests of prototypes, based on which a decision will be made on adopting automotive equipment for formations and military units of the Airborne Troops

- said in a statement.

In August last year, the Remdiesel enterprise, which developed this armored car, reported that new equipment would begin to enter the troops no later than 2020. Prototypes of the Typhoon K4386 armored car have successfully passed factory and military tests, minor flaws identified during the tests have already been fixed.

As previously reported, the armored car "Typhoon-Airborne" K4386 made according to the scheme "bearing armored hull." Wheel formula 4x4, ceramic armor, provides protection in the fifth class. Also, the armored car is able to withstand an explosion of up to 6 kg of TNT under the wheel, and 4 kg under the bottom. As an armament, a large-caliber machine gun “Kord” is installed on the Typhoon-Airborne Forces on a turret or other weapons, depending on the tasks performed. It is possible to install a remotely controlled combat module with a 30-mm gun.

The machine is capable of parachuting from VTA aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

According to published information, the weight of the machine is 13,5 tons. Diesel engine "KAMAZ" with a capacity of 350 hp Speed ​​- up to 100 kilometers per hour. An armored car is capable of overcoming steep slopes of up to 30 degrees, and water barriers up to 1,9 meters deep. Cruising on the highway - 1200 kilometers.
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  1. Doctor 2 May 2020 13: 24 New
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    In a neighboring branch, a four-axle with a 7-ton “Tiger” stuck on the side of the road. And this one weighs 2 times more.
    What is his specific ground pressure, I wonder ...
    1. Pessimist22 2 May 2020 13: 33 New
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      Often lay out how tanks get stuck, different, maybe they are easier to do so as not to get stuck?
      1. hydrox 2 May 2020 13: 38 New
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        Why don’t you suggest concreting country roads? laughing laughing
        But to drive an armored car into a swamp or a quickship does not require much intelligence, but DO NOT FORGET - it must be a "pro"!
        1. Doctor 2 May 2020 14: 10 New
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          But to drive an armored car into a swamp or a quickship does not require much intelligence, but DO NOT FORGET - it must be a "pro"!

          Have you seen the video with this "Tiger"? What a swamp there is in this desert.
          Just pulled over to a wet roadside ...

          And I doubt that the "zero" driver with their salaries was sitting behind the wheel.
          Physics cannot be fooled.
          1. ApJlekuHo 2 May 2020 15: 15 New
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            If a “ram” is driving, it will drown the tank in a puddle; the human factor does not depend on salary. Special drivers are few, not good equipment.
            1. Doctor 2 May 2020 15: 22 New
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              If a “ram” is driving, it will drown the tank in a puddle; the human factor does not depend on salary. Special drivers are few, not good equipment.

              Have you watched the video? There are 3 (three) Tigers. And all 3 are stuck.
              That some "rams" were sent to Syria?
              1. ApJlekuHo 3 May 2020 09: 07 New
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                Have you watched the video? There are 3 (three) Tigers. And all 3 are stuck.
                That some "rams" were sent to Syria?

                Do not confuse horseradish with a finger. A typhoon is an armored car, not a transporter who is blown up by a clapperboard. He has no tasks to ride through the swamps. Most likely it will move the command staff. Such a technique will not go round anyone, it will move ..
                What is the difference how many Tigers were there? They all had orders, and everyone relied on equipment. I personally knew the drivers who closed their eyes over the worst swamps on the "loaves", an experienced driver is guided by a very simple but "golden" rule - "Not sure - don't overtake."
          2. venik 2 May 2020 15: 33 New
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            Quote: Arzt
            What a swamp there is in this desert. Just pulled over to a wet roadside ...

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            Nevermind a "wet roadside"!

            There, by the way, the Yankees themselves got stuck:

            Well, HOW do you, my dear, here is SUCH a desert ???
            1. Doctor 2 May 2020 16: 01 New
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              There, by the way, the Yankees themselves got stuck:

              They are also 4-axle.

              Well, HOW do you, my dear, here is SUCH a desert ???


              And how do you like such a cross?

              1. poquello 2 May 2020 16: 08 New
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                Quote: Arzt
                And how do you like such a cross?

                let me ask, but how did you sniff 66?
                1. Doctor 2 May 2020 16: 12 New
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                  let me ask, but how did you sniff 66?

                  Regularly, for 2 years both in the back and in the cab, including along forest roads, where there is dirt on the side.
                  This tiger is heavy for 2 axes.
                  A typhoon generally krants. 14 tons is KAMAZ loaded. But there are 10 cylinders on 3 axles.
                  1. poquello 2 May 2020 16: 29 New
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                    Quote: Arzt
                    where the dirt is on board.

                    I do not believe, on belly 66 the same machine as everyone else, sitting tightly pulled out figs, a chance to slip through the top of the swamp at 66 or armored vehicles only at high speed and then small
                    1. Doctor 2 May 2020 16: 43 New
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                      I do not believe, on belly 66 the same machine as everyone else, sitting tightly pulled out figs, a chance to slip through the top of the swamp at 66 or armored vehicles only at high speed and then small

                      I rode here in this version:



                      It is slightly worse than the standard one, but it still trailed along the axles along the axes without problems.
                      In a clean swamp, of course, everything will be drowned and tracked including, except for the swamp.
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              2. venik 2 May 2020 16: 13 New
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                And how do you like such a cross?

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                Well, on the cross-country - the "little boy" is all-in-one OUTSIDE the competition! This machine is still in the army VERY RESPECT! Had a ride on them (our stations were on the GAZ-66 chassis.
                But he has one serious "trouble" - he is NOT RESERVED! Him even anti-personnel mines - "with the head"!
                1. Doctor 2 May 2020 16: 32 New
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                  But he has one serious "trouble" - he is NOT RESERVED! Him even anti-personnel mines - "with the head"!

                  Of course. This is a balanced military truck.
                  But the Tiger and Typhoon are supposedly military armored vehicles.
                  That's just the designers forgot about the patency of military vehicles.
                  These are all really banal things, they were discussed and tested about 70 years ago, when they thought about armored personnel carriers.
                  But the new generation does not read old books.
                  Stupidly copied Iveco and all things.
                  1. Victorio 2 May 2020 17: 53 New
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                    Quote: Arzt
                    That's just the designers forgot about the patency of military vehicles.

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                    It seems no more stupid than us. as for two bridges, sometimes two are preferable to three.
                  2. NEXUS 2 May 2020 19: 42 New
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                    Quote: Arzt
                    Of course. This is a balanced military truck.
                    But the Tiger and Typhoon are supposedly military armored vehicles.

                    Tiger and Typhoon Airborne Forces is a respected armored car. You do not see the difference between an armored car and an armored car in its purest form. Sit comparing a simple truck with an armored car not in 14 tons, as you sing here, but in 11. Of these 11 tons, tons of armor are hung there 3.
                    Typhoon's tasks are completely different. Che you here sit about patency babble? Tanks and bumps and armored personnel carriers and even just people get stuck.
                    Quote: Arzt
                    That's just the designers forgot about the patency of military vehicles.

                    The designers forgot to ask you what to do and develop. According to your not quite healthy logic, the best SUV is a helicopter. fool
                    1. Thunderbolt 2 May 2020 20: 14 New
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                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Typhoon's tasks are completely different.

                      And why not?
                    2. Doctor 2 May 2020 21: 21 New
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                      Typhoon's tasks are completely different.

                      Forget about airborne assault forces in war, this is for training.
                      Even if they do not get knocked down along the way, this Typhoon will plop into a wet meadow and where to run after the tractor?

                      not at 14 tons, as you sing here, but at 11.

                      According to published information, the weight of the machine is 13,5 tons


                      Che you here sit about patency babble?

                      High specific pressure on the ground, the car was created for the highway. Serdyukov was going to buy them in Italy for 50 billion and put light assault brigades into them to fight in forests and swamps. Did not have time. But his work lives on.
                      https://vpk.name/news/77079_nuzhny_li_iveco_v_rossii.html

                      The designers forgot to ask you what to do and develop.

                      They forgot to ask the military, it was generally developed for the Arabs, then they were interested in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and now they got to the Armed Forces.
                  3. venik 2 May 2020 21: 37 New
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                    Quote: Arzt
                    Stupidly copied Iveco and all things.

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                    And WHERE is IVECO here? Neither Tiger nor Typhoon have anything to do with Iveco LMV! From the word AT ALL!
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                Aag 2 May 2020 17: 34 New
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                The mass is not the same.
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            2. hydrox 2 May 2020 16: 45 New
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              Dear, do not pay attention: it’s just such a breed of people who believe that their three-piece opinion can change something in this life.
              A large ditch by the road, to the top full of water, SCREAMS that the soil is waterlogged, and the Americans have very well chosen a place for an ambush.
              Based on an understanding of the situation, it was necessary either to take measures to push American equipment into the ditch, or to retreat with dignity, but in no case to fall into the situation that became the target for ridicule of all of NATO.
              Just to prevent the Russian army from falling into ridiculous situations by its drivers, it is enough to conduct large-scale automobile exercises ONE TIME in a situation that repeats the Syrian situation one by one, but takes place on salt marshes located on the southern and western borders of the Novosibirsk region in those places where The NSO is in contact with the Altai Territory, Kazakhstan and the Omsk Region (this is about one THOUSAND km!), Where in bad weather only THREE roads are international (Omsk-Pavlodar, Barnaul-Semipalatinsk) and federal I (Omsk, Novosibirsk) and thousands of destinations, passersby only in dry weather. But it is necessary to go through a downpour (or rain for a day) - and these directions become impassable even for tanks (salt marshes) - this is where you should learn the driving skills of contract drivers of the Russian Army, whose life and success of military operations depend only on the wheels of their "horses" ALL types of running vehicles so that they do not fall out of the blue in ridiculous situations.
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                Aag 2 May 2020 17: 43 New
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                "it is enough to conduct large-scale automobile exercises ONE TIME"
                Not once, and by no means large. Large, a waste of time and money. There should be planned work on the preparation of mech-water. In general, I don’t know how it is now, there used to be a principle - the commander should be able to drive all the samples the technical department entrusted to him. The skill level, of course, could vary greatly. Did you ever see how the GAZ-24 crawls where Kruzak sits down (for example)?
                1. hydrox 2 May 2020 20: 56 New
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                  I rode around the training ground of the Novosibirsk All-Arms Command (I was picking mushrooms) and I can responsibly declare that this is not a training ground and this is not a practice for the mechanic drivers of modern combat vehicles - we see the result in the Syrian photo :: the lack of common sense among the mechanic and his leadership led to such a deplorable result.
              2. Doctor 2 May 2020 17: 43 New
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                Dear, do not pay attention: it’s just such a breed of people who believe that their three-piece opinion can change something in this life.


                An article on the military-industrial complex of Mikhail Barabanov, scientific editor of the magazine "Export of arms":

                https://vpk.name/news/77079_nuzhny_li_iveco_v_rossii.html

                It's about Iveco, like a class of cars. The author talks about the uselessness of Lynx's purchases because we already have a tiger.
                Excerpts:

                "It is now known that the bulk purchase of the same light armored vehicles" Lynx "is caused by the plans of the military department to create several so-called light brigades in the Russian army that will be fully moved in light armored vehicles. As the basis for these brigades, it is planned to use the existing air assault In connection with this, since 2010, the states and methods of using such a light brigade have been developed on the basis of the 56th separate airborne assault brigade deployed in Kamyshin in Volgograd domain. "

                “Thus, the LMV is essentially a lightweight version of the MRAP class machine with enhanced mine protection and high-explosive protection. That was the innovativeness of the Iveco product at the time it was born a decade ago. However, the flip side of mine protection is significant mass for a car of such a small capacity (maximum five people), limiting mobility and patency LMV is off road. "

                "And then the question arises of the appropriateness of using this machine as the main means of transporting personnel of the light and reconnaissance brigades of the Russian army. Should these brigades move exclusively along the highway? No, as one can judge, domestic military planners intend to use the same light brigades as highly mobile units capable of conducting hostilities on a wide front, act in small groups, bypass flanks and seepage, use raid tactics, and be used as advanced and reconnaissance units . "

                "Here, however, it is appropriate to ask about the validity of the very concept of light brigades for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, especially due to the transfer of air assault brigades to jeeps and light armored cars. Where does our military department plan to wage Toyota wars in Russian conditions? What enemy? By and large, in Russia neither the terrain, nor the climate, nor the nature and level of potential opponents contribute to the effective use of such forces. "

                These are all echoes of Serdyukov’s rule. On such a wheelbarrow, it is normal for testers to fly along the highway from the airfield to the headquarters of the group, where they will then pump up the military.
                And then if Americans are not met along the way. laughing
                1. hydrox 2 May 2020 21: 01 New
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                  In the Syrian photo, not the export of arms, but the result of the driver’s skill of a woe-driver ...
              3. hydrox 2 May 2020 21: 04 New
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                Well, that’s all: the chiefs of the sofas got out to hunt on asphalt fields with minuses at the ready! lol
            3. hydrox 2 May 2020 20: 48 New
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              And do you want to rush with him?
              Only a full of "tank" battles, the insane urban little one will try to "slip through" the swampy arable land in spring, autumn and after prolonged rains - after all, from the road it is clear that the terrain is passable only for fans with skirts!
              So after all, the commander of this mechvod must be returned to the 2nd year of the school, which organizes additional. safari course "Transportation of personnel on salt marshes, swamps, tundra and other off-road roads" with a state exam at the rate for the time - such places in Russia are a fig! The state exam is to be held in the form of competitions of the “tank biathlon” type when a large number of spectators in uniform and with registered entrance tickets (platoon, company, battalion and regimental commanders) meet at the training ground more difficult than Alabinsky.
      2. svp67 2 May 2020 13: 48 New
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        Quote: Pessimist22
        Often lay out how tanks get stuck, different, maybe they are easier to do so as not to get stuck?

        In most cases, the jam is not due to the low properties of the vehicles, but due to poor preparation of drivers, drivers need to be better prepared both in driving and in knowledge of the materiel, they did not just put the pumping of wheels on military vehicles ...
      3. Doctor 2 May 2020 14: 06 New
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        Often lay out how tanks get stuck, different, maybe they are easier to do so as not to get stuck?

        Yes, everything gets stuck, but in different ways.
        Ground pressure (mass to contact area) is a key indicator of cross-country ability on soft soils.
        Caterpillars were invented for tanks in order to evenly distribute a huge mass.
        Therefore, this pressure is less than that of a car and it is passable.
        The t-90 - 0,85, the Lada - 1,3.

        Do you want to personally feel what specific pressure is?
        Take a board and fill it with 200 nails with a frequency of 0,5 cm.
        Stand on this hedgehog.
        Then take another board, fill it with 6 nails with a frequency of 4 cm.
        Try to get on this ...
    2. Civil 2 May 2020 13: 37 New
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      Already, to be honest, lost in all these Tigers, Wolves, Typhoons) laughing
    3. svp67 2 May 2020 13: 47 New
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      Quote: Arzt
      In a neighboring branch, a four-axle with a 7-ton “Tiger” stuck on the side of the road.

      With a fool you can break a lot of things. There was nothing for the Tiger driver to ride along the Typhoon track. You look and would not be disgraced, but if you still knew how to use the swap system, then in general ...
      1. Doctor 2 May 2020 14: 14 New
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        With a fool you can break a lot of things. There was nothing for the Tiger driver to ride along the Typhoon track. You look and would not be disgraced, but if you still knew how to use the swap system, then in general ...

        Yes, even pumping will not help, the mass is too large.
        And this fool with a headline generally 13 tons. It will cut through any soil, except for concrete.

        Here is an article from the BTVT about the specific pressure of military vehicles.
        If you are too lazy to read further immediately conclusion.

        http://btvt.info/5library/drive.htm

        “Armored wheeled vehicles weighing more than 10 tons most often have high ground pressure and can often move away from roads only in very dry weather or in severe frost. An armored personnel carrier, which cannot reach the combat area during rain, additionally forces infantry, already bearing the brunt of the battle, to a long walking march. "
        1. svp67 2 May 2020 14: 24 New
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          Yes, even pumping will not help, the mass is too large.

          I will not say anything about the new car, but the “Tiger” climbed out of the mud, she could help
    4. Bat039 2 May 2020 14: 06 New
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      I always wrote that the tracked vehicles have a higher cross-country ability, which is proved by numerous comparative tests and an attempt to replace the BMP-3 with something cheaper and less complete will only be to the detriment of the army and airborne forces of the Russian Federation !!!
      1. Doctor 2 May 2020 14: 29 New
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        I always wrote that tracked vehicles have a higher cross-country ability, which is proved by numerous comparative tests and an attempt to replace the BMP-3 with something cheaper and less complete will only be to the detriment of the Russian army and airborne

        Yes. BTR-80 distributes its 14 tons into 8 wheels, and this is probably the limit. A vehicle to the compartment with reliable armor (30 cm), KAZ and light weapons (23 mm automatic gun, AGS, PKT) will weigh at least 15 tons, which means it should be tracked.

        And in general - the bicycle has already been invented, you don’t need to think, take it, copy the base, hang up KAZ, AGS, 23 mm cannon and go!

      2. knn54 2 May 2020 15: 01 New
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        Bat. Caterpillar equipment for the Airborne Forces ???
        1. Shadow041 3 May 2020 10: 35 New
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          BMD-1, BMD-2 were made specifically for the Airborne Forces and on the tracks and did the right thing! During the war there will be no roads, there will only be directions and here the wheels will be off topic ...
    5. venik 2 May 2020 15: 19 New
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      Quote: Arzt
      In a neighboring branch, a four-axle with a 7-ton “Tiger” stuck on the side of the road.

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      There, by the way, the BTR-82 is also stuck! And even in the high cross-country four-axle 80-ok doubt - no doubt!
      1. Doctor 2 May 2020 15: 25 New
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        There, by the way, the BTR-82 is also stuck! And even in the high cross-country four-axle 80-ok doubt - no doubt!

        Yes, they have a better deal with specific pressure. Already wrote above 14 tons on 8 wheels.
        And this landing "Typhoon", the same 14 tons will be on 4 wheels.
        They will throw him with parachutes on spring plowing and what next?
        Not far away he will leave.
        1. venik 2 May 2020 16: 06 New
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          Quote: Arzt
          And this landing "Typhoon", the same 14 tons will be on 4 wheels.

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          By the way, 13-14 tons is practically STANDARD weight for armored vehicles of the 4th class of protection according to STANAG (not only ours, but also all foreign ones). Less - DOES NOT GO!
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          Quote: Arzt
          They will throw him with parachutes on spring plowing and what next?
          Not far away he will leave.

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          Well, if you don’t have a mind, then you can drop airborne equipment into the swamp and swamp .... AND FAR, will she leave after that?
          But the fact that the Army needs such technology (heavy BA) is very necessary - so it is SIGNIFICANT!
          If the ballistic protection on the lungs of the Tigers was able to be provided, then the mine action is - alas! "Tiger" can withstand only 0.6 kg of TNT (and then under the wheel). So, in addition to it, a heavier armored car, capable of holding large-caliber bullets and undermining a sufficiently powerful WU, is simply necessary!
          1. Doctor 2 May 2020 16: 17 New
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            So, in addition to it, a heavier armored car, capable of holding large-caliber bullets and undermining a sufficiently powerful WU, is simply necessary!

            The armored car can’t stand the shell. Then in addition, and the tank at the same time. wink
            1. venik 2 May 2020 16: 43 New
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              Quote: Arzt
              So, in addition to it, a heavier armored car, capable of holding large-caliber bullets and undermining a sufficiently powerful WU, is simply necessary!

              The armored car can’t stand the shell. Then in addition, and the tank at the same time. wink

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              Well, we have enough tanks ....... But armored cars of 4-6 protection class - alas, no!
              PS By the way, according to STANAG, ballistic protection of BA 5 and 6 levels of protection and must withstand the impact of 23 mm and 30 mm shells, respectively!
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            Why do you feel bad Typhoon?
    6. ZaDedov 2 May 2020 16: 08 New
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      A rhetorical question.
      Many already know the answer. soldier
    7. _Sergei_ 2 May 2020 16: 33 New
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      And since when did the Tiger become 4-hawkish?
      1. Doctor 2 May 2020 16: 56 New
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        And since when did the Tiger become 4-hawkish?

        A typo came out, biaxial of course.
    8. Timon2155 2 May 2020 17: 36 New
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      6-7 tons per axle is considered acceptable for military equipment.
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        Moreover, it is a truck, not a jeep. And there are loads of up to 9t per axle.
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    Maybe to the place, attach 1-2 "pencil case" with ATGM.? They weigh a little. It will come in handy, especially since it is an airborne force, they work autonomously. hi
    1. Shadow 2 May 2020 14: 16 New
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      Use this armored car against the tank - this is something from the category "summer of 1941" belay .
  3. Pessimist22 2 May 2020 13: 34 New
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    With a gun in general, a serious armored car.
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      He would have a gun with a "short" 30mm or better 40mm cartridge. This gun is heavy for a car. The Americans put on this technique a 30mm cannon with a short projectile (as on Apache)
  4. rocket757 2 May 2020 14: 00 New
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    Sap arable land, clay clay, swamp, for almost any bad driver of any equipment, it’s only a matter of how far it will have to rub behind a tractor, or even a BAT with a winch!
    Specifically, for such a technique ... the armies of all countries are preparing for what specifically, you will not always understand, but this is clearly something rapidly changing! Demanding highly mobile units.
  5. senima56 2 May 2020 14: 47 New
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    Finally! And then they will show at the Parade. Brag. And then another years like that ....... they bring it over, they test it, and when it’s still in the series it’s not known!
    I believe that if Korolev, Ilyushin, Kalashnikov and others worked in the same way as our design engineers now, we would still launch the “Belok and Strelok” spacecraft, fly to Il-18, and in the Army with PPSh marching.
  6. Mayak-SH-7 2 May 2020 14: 53 New
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    Will this at least overpower the border or not? laughing Another footcloth from Russia)).
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      Quote: Mayak-SH-7
      Will this at least overpower the border or not? laughing Another footcloth from rf)).

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      not to compare with dill
  7. CommanderDIVA 2 May 2020 15: 24 New
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    Iveco, Tiger, Typhoon, what else is there next in line? Why is there such a raznosortitsa in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in a car of this class and is there any need for this? Recently, a topic was discussed here with the possible adoption by the National Guard of a Lebedev pistol, despite the fact that the Yarygin pistol has already been adopted by the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Defense wants to accept the Boa pistol. How long will this bacchanalia in the sphere of adopting unified mass weapons models be going on?
  8. Evil 55 2 May 2020 15: 49 New
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    Specific vertical pressure on the mover will allow this “miracle” of the Russian defense industry to move only on a horizontal surface along roads with improved pavement .. and in Russia it is only within the Moscow Ring Road, and, on May 9, on Red Square ..
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      Aag 2 May 2020 17: 54 New
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      You can plant any equipment without question. The level of training of a l / s is worrying. Either the driver blurted out: “don't drift, commander!” Or, on the contrary: “Che got up? Go around on the right!”
      No, in order to walk with my legs, dig deeper between things (I am silent about the penetrometer) ...
      1. Evil 55 3 May 2020 07: 54 New
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        what else is a penetrometer ... Revyakin’s hardness gage and the "hollow cylinder drilling method" in hand, as usual ..
  9. Zaurbek 3 May 2020 07: 40 New
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    Diesel engine "KAMAZ" with a capacity of 350 hp

    Is this some kind of old turbo diesel or new?