Sovereignly convertible currency: how our ruble depreciated and tried to hold on

Sovereignly convertible currency: how our ruble depreciated and tried to hold on

Now we are witnessing far from the first large-scale devaluation of the ruble in the last decade. Meanwhile, for almost a decade and a half, the exchange rate of the Russian currency remained relatively stable.


At the end of 2000, the cost of 1 dollar was approximately 28 rubles. For ten years, by the end of 2010, it increased by only 2 rubles and amounted to 30,5 rubles. It is no coincidence that the nulls that have already become historyare called stable. Leonid Ilyich approves ...

The ruble, which has remained stable for a long time, has attracted significant foreign investment into the country. For example, during 2000-2007. investments in Russian securities increased several times - from 4,3% to 23,7%.

But the global financial crisis of 2008 was a serious test for the economy: oil prices fell to $ 40 per barrel, but the dollar, interestingly, the price rose slightly. He reached a peak of 36 rubles, which was only a few rubles higher than his usual rate. Further developments showed that the ruble, with high inflation within Russia, was prevented from falling by relatively high oil prices. In addition, the financial regulator intervened. In 2008-2009 The Bank of Russia spent almost 200 billion (!) Dollars to prevent the national currency from devaluing so significantly.

Serious course problems


The following serious problems for the national currency were no longer associated with the global financial crisis, but with political events. First, at the end of 2013, the political situation in Ukraine sharply worsened, in March 2014 the reunification of Crimea with Russia took place, followed by the imposition of economic sanctions against Russia by Western countries (and not only) and a decrease in oil prices.

However, even before the sanctions were introduced, the Bank of Russia began preparations for a possible depreciation of the ruble. So, the Central Bank rate was increased by 1,5 percentage points. In March 2014, the head of the Bank of Russia Elvira Nabiullina agreed to spend $ 22,3 billion to support the national currency.

However, such measures no longer helped: if in March 2014 they paid 1 rubles for 36 dollar, then at the beginning of December 2014 - 50 rubles. As you can see, the difference is very impressive, not comparable with the indicators of the 2008 crisis.

On Thursday, December 11, 2014, the Bank of Russia raised its key rate to 10,5%, and on December 15, the ruble depreciated even more. December 16, 2014 at the auction, the ruble fell in price to 80 rubles per dollar and almost 100 rubles per euro. Then, replaying the abbreviation from the 90s, the ruble was jokingly called the hard currency - a sovereign convertible currency.



However, in 2015, the ruble still managed to win back some of its positions due to economic problems in Greece. On April 17, 2015, the euro dropped to 52,9 rubles, that is, by 22% since the beginning of the year, and on May 20, 2015, the value of the dollar was 49,18 rubles. Until the middle of summer 2015, the ruble exchange rate ranged from about 50-55 rubles per dollar and 60-62 rubles per euro.

Then the foreign currency slowly but surely crawled in value. Nevertheless, last year the situation was relatively favorable for the Russian currency: the dollar was depreciating and since January 2019, when the dollar was worth 67,1 rubles, it fell to 61,7 rubles. by the end of December 2019.

The failure of the OPEC + transaction in March 2020 immediately led to the collapse of world oil prices. The pandemic also played a role. On March 10, 2020, the dollar was worth 67,5 rubles, and the very next day - 72 rubles. And on March 20, the value of the dollar reached a maximum of 80 rubles, then a slight and “jumping” decline began. Now the ruble exchange rate is not very stable and amounts to 30 rubles per US dollar and 2020 rubles per euro as of April 73,28, 79,64.

Forecasts regarding the future fate of the Russian currency are still disappointing: oil remains at a fairly low cost, the pandemic has not ended, its consequences for national economies, including the Russian one, will have to be raked for a long time, and the regulator’s resources thrown to support the domestic currency are not unlimited.
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  1. Ros 56 April 30 2020 16: 45 New
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    Your account has been terminated.
    1. lot
      lot April 30 2020 16: 54 New
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      Bedtime story. not otherwise.
    2. Gegemon April 30 2020 16: 57 New
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      As the inscription “Secured by Gold” was removed from the ruble, the robbery and cynical robbery of all these currency speculators, money-lenders and other fraudsters of the world began.
      The ruble is supposed to be the most stable currency in the world. !!!
      It is provided with huge resources of our country and not only oil and gas. hi It's a shame how they rob us of these courses and other nonsense marketing nonsense ..
      1. ProkletyiPirat April 30 2020 18: 00 New
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        Quote: Gegemon
        "Secured by Gold"

        The classic myth "equate to gold and LIVE !!" But in practice, everything is exactly the opposite.
        1.0) Google the information on the so-called "material standards of money" no matter gold, silver, copper or something else, the problem is always the same in the form of stagnation of the economy due to a lack of material standard and therefore the amount of money.
        1.1) And it will also be useful to figure out how to rob states using these standards.
        2) When you deal with the first paragraph: google what is the "inflation tax" (one of the indirect taxes of the state) why it is needed and what benefits the state brings, and why it is not converted into a direct tax
        3) When you deal with the second paragraph: google a topic such as "energy standards of money" and why they were never introduced
        4) When you’ll deal with all of the above, you can start discussing such a topic as “financial batteries” why they are needed and how they are used in modern business, and why the same US dollar is currently the best of financial batteries.
        1. Gegemon April 30 2020 18: 29 New
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          Quote: ProkletyiPirat
          ) Google information on the so-called "material standards of money" no matter to gold, silver, copper or something else, the problem is always the same in the form of stagnation of the economy due to lack of material standard and therefore the amount of money.

          Google? khe khe .. And whoever spreads this info there The same currency speculators-money-lenders to reassure other countries and their brains to dust them with all kinds of Dow Johnson stock prices and the like nonsense .. And like you can make money from the air
          And there is such a thing as communicating vessels .. If someone earned capital, then someone went bankrupt, but this is taking into account that the money does not print as much as they want in the US Federal Reserve ..
          Quote: ProkletyiPirat
          When you deal with all of the above, you can start on the topic of “financial batteries” why they are needed and how they are used in modern business, and why the same US dollar is currently the best of financial batteries.

          Ugh damn it, do not drive me here .. I have a second higher economic .. Only these young people are caught in these your economic theories of capitalism after watching a Hollywood movie .. negative
          The dollar needs to be destroyed and get rid of it faster ..
          1. DEDPIHTO April 30 2020 20: 28 New
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            Quote: Gegemon
            Ugh damn, do not drive me here .. I have a second higher economic ..
            wassat Mikhan, and the first education of the 3rd grade of the parish school or a full course of correctional? lol Burn on the prosciutto, tomorrow you will log in to the academician, you will not get used to it. laughing
          2. ProkletyiPirat 1 May 2020 00: 27 New
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            Quote: Gegemon
            The dollar needs to be destroyed and get rid of it faster ..

            So I do not mind. even for.
            Only now, most opponents of the dollar offer either that which is obviously worse than the dollar (something that was abandoned in the past) or offer "the same as the dollar, but not the dollar" in the sense of replacing the dollar with the euro, yuan, rubles. Why producers of these currencies need this, it’s understandable, but it’s not clear to everyone else what it means to “change the flea”.
        2. Sotskiy 1 May 2020 00: 03 New
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          Quote: ProkletyiPirat
          the problem is always the same in the form of stagnation of the economy due to the lack of material standards and therefore the amount of money.

          It sounds beautiful in terms of the liberal economic model of the HSE. wink
          Only now (oh!), And who did it all, that after the commission of the CMEA markets, the severance of economic ties between the "gained independence" from the former Soviet republics of the Russian Federation and the rest, which in fact suddenly became "independent", which began with "privatization", rich (judging by the current lists of Forbes Russia) material base of the country, suddenly there was a lack of material standard? Where are you gone?
          Yes, and somehow it does not fit with money at that time. The material standard was as if absent, and all walked in millionaires laughing In the 90s, being the same “millionaire,” I could afford to buy a regular Soviet box of matches, which cost 1 kopeck in the Union, already for as many as 100 (!!!) Yeltsin rubles. So the money was just the sea, but their value was lower than toilet paper. For this, we entered into a civilized, and most importantly mutually beneficial for individuals, market relations with "partners" in the common capitalist cause. lol
        3. krops777 1 May 2020 04: 41 New
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          Google information on the so-called "material standards of money" does not matter to gold, silver, copper or something else, the problem is always the same in the form of stagnation of the economy due to lack of material standard and therefore the amount of money.


          Well, yes, yes, Sadamka and Gaddafi wanted to make their currencies national (in the literal sense of the word), which the United States did not like very much, and why? Yes, because then the dollar would have come to an end without anything, so that's all and there is no need to overwrite it. Well, here's another example of the same did not give it to do.
          The resolution of the USSR Council of Ministers of February 28, 1950 transferred the ruble to a permanent gold base. The declared gold content of the ruble was 0.222168 grams of pure gold; the selling price of 1 gram of gold was set at 4,45 rubles.
          In view of this, the Soviet government recognized the need to increase the official ruble exchange rate, and the ruble exchange rate should not be calculated on the basis of the dollar, but on a more stable gold basis, in accordance with the gold content of the ruble.
          On this basis, the Council of Ministers of the USSR decided:
          1. From the 1 of March 1950 of the year, stop determining the exchange rate of the ruble against foreign currencies based on the dollar and transfer to a more stable gold basis, in accordance with the gold content of the ruble.
          2. Set the gold content of the ruble to 0, 222168 grams of pure gold.
          3. Establish from the 1 of March 1950 of the year the purchase price of the State Bank for gold in 4 rubles 45 cents for 1 grams of pure gold.
          4. From March 1 of 1950 of the year, determine the exchange rate in relation to foreign currencies based on the gold content of the ruble established in paragraph 2:
          4 RUB for one American dollar instead of the existing 5 r. 30 cop.
          11 rub. 20 cop. for one British pound instead of the existing 14 r. 84 cop.

          To instruct the USSR State Bank to accordingly change the ruble exchange rate in relation to other foreign currencies.

          In case of further changes in the gold content of foreign currencies or changes in their rates, the USSR State Bank shall establish the ruble exchange rate in relation to foreign currencies taking into account these changes. ”

          Quote: “..If a socialist country binds its currency to a capitalist currency, then the social-country should forget about an independent stable financial and economic system. I.V. Stalin. "

          As an example of perpetual financial, and, therefore, political dependence on the West, Stalin cited Yugoslavia, whose currency was tied to the “basket” of the US dollar and British pound. Stalin said: "... that sooner or later the West will Yugoslavia" collapse "economically and politically dismember ...".

          (This forecast came true 40 years after the death of Stalin, in 1991-1999, when the NATO military bloc, supporting separatism in Yugoslavia, unleashed military aggression and dismembered a single country)
          1. D16
            D16 1 May 2020 11: 05 New
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            The resolution of the USSR Council of Ministers of February 28, 1950 transferred the ruble to a permanent gold base. The declared gold content of the ruble was 0.222168 grams of pure gold; the selling price of 1 gram of gold was set at 4,45 rubles.

            You can declare and declare anything. It is much more difficult to maintain gold security in the stated proportion. As a result of this, a monetary reform of the 61st year was carried out.
            “The actual 2,25-fold decrease in the gold content and the exchange rate of Soviet money against foreign currencies and, accordingly, a decrease in the purchasing power of ruble wages (not only in relation to imports, but also when buying jewelry, goods on collective and other markets) were presented in official reports as “increasing the gold content and the ruble exchange rate” [1]. "(c) Wiki
            And we should not forget that the world of fiat money did not exist then, and that foreign currencies had a fixed gold content.
            (This forecast came true 40 years after the death of Stalin, in 1991-1999, when the NATO military bloc, supporting separatism in Yugoslavia, unleashed military aggression and dismembered a single country)

            The USSR, with its supposedly secured assets of the state bank, the currency collapsed earlier, without any help from NATA and military aggression, having come into the world of "honest" fiat money. So the safety margin of Yugoslavia was much higher laughing .
      2. D16
        D16 April 30 2020 23: 28 New
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        The ruble is supposed to be the most stable currency in the world. !!!

        Well, this is a great chance to stay not only without oil and gas, but also without a territory that many also want to root for the national currency. In the world of fiat money, you can create something secured currency only behind a fence higher than the orbit of the ISS laughing .
        1. ProkletyiPirat 1 May 2020 00: 18 New
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          Quote: D16
          Well, this is a great chance to stay not only without oil and gas, but also without a territory that many also want to root for the national currency.

          A small educational program for you and those who do not understand the essence of such a standard:
          In modern versions of the “material standard of money” in the form of the country’s territory, it’s not about selling the territory, but about renting it, and the use (rental) is very limitedFor example, for mining you need to rent and obtain a mining license and pay tax for the extracted. This is proposed for: ensuring the liquidity of money by increasing domestic demand, because all individuals and legal entities will be forced to pay rent monthly, which increases the liquidity of money. But there are even more problems with such a material standard than with gold \ silver \ ... etc.
          1. D16
            D16 1 May 2020 09: 34 New
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            for example, for mining you need to rent and obtain a mining license and pay tax

            Nonsense. States with ordinary, fiat currencies rent land and deposits in full growth, live like a renter.
            for example, for mining, you need to rent and obtain a mining license and pay tax for the extracted.

            And then the deposit ran out, the tenant terminated the lease and there was nothing to increase the liquidity of money laughing . What does "material security of money" have to do with it? Its essence is to provide a SECURITY on each issued money. That is, each conditional ruble is provided by the state with its assets of material value. Be it jewelry, land, water, etc. These assets can be weighed or measured. The lease agreement allows the state to buy assets with the proceeds and produce its own money, now secured by these assets. But the contract itself or the possibility of concluding it cannot be a guarantee.
            1. ProkletyiPirat 1 May 2020 13: 54 New
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              Quote: D16
              Stupidity

              Once again, I have compiled a list of what you need to familiarize yourself with and what you need to understand (this is the MOST minimum), your mistake when building logical calculations is that you equate ALL assets with each other. And in the real economy, assets with the same value are unequal among themselves because from the point of view of the "financial accumulator", it is not so much the prime cost of the asset that matters as its liquidity, but it can differ by orders of magnitude from the cost.

              For the slow-witted, I give an example, there are two warehouses with ice cream, the electrical substation supplying both warehouses burned down. after 3 days, all ice cream will melt and the owners will go bankrupt, both owners have assets (goods) for the Nth amount sufficient to buy an electric generator, but the first one has low-liquid goods and can be sold in 10 days, that is, the first owner incurs a loss, and the second has highly liquid goods and in one day he will buy a generator for the second he will install and save his goods. And yes, there’s no need to talk about banks, there the amounts are limited and certificates need to be handed over and time spent, that is, they are not “financial batteries” (there may be exceptions, but they only confirm the rule).
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                D16 1 May 2020 15: 29 New
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                And the money was provided only by highly liquid assets. That is, the Far Eastern hectare should not be offered by definitionlaughing .
                1. Nehist 2 May 2020 04: 46 New
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                  That is, you completely deny such a concept as concessions?
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                    D16 2 May 2020 10: 04 New
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                    Of course not. But this is just one of many tools to fill the budget. What does it have to do with material security of money in case of default?
  2. alone April 30 2020 16: 53 New
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    Selling oil and creating a small pill is understandable ... But, there is one big But ... To build the entire economy of the country only on this is a strategic mistake of economic policy .. Despite the fact that every year it was said that it was necessary to make sure the country's economy got off the oil needle, nothing good was done. And to keep the ruble exchange rate they spent the same money from the pill ..
    There is a small pill, but it is not infinite .. What will happen when the small pill disappears?
    1. BREAKTHROUGH READY April 30 2020 17: 14 New
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      There is a small pill, but it is not infinite .. What will happen when the small pill disappears?
      So the supply of free currency is not infinite. Just do not put unsecured money into circulation and the rate will remain in place.

      Economic development rests on the need to maintain stability. Traditions and confidence in the future are more important for our people, rather than mercantilist values.
      1. alone April 30 2020 17: 19 New
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        Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
        Traditions and confidence in the future are more important for our people, rather than mercantilist values.

        Now other values ​​are in fashion ... And what is important to the common people, nobody cares about it .. Everyone is occupied exclusively with their own interests
      2. Malyuta April 30 2020 18: 58 New
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        Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
        Economic development rests on the need to maintain stability. Traditions and confidence in the future are more important for our people, rather than mercantilist values.

        Yeah, confidence in the imminent stabilizer is getting stronger and stronger.
      3. Gegemon April 30 2020 20: 20 New
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        Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
        Economic development rests on the need to maintain stability. Traditions and confidence in the future are more important for our people, rather than mercantilist values.

        How well you spoke! Plus to you from the heart and write more .. hi
        Many here whine, but the structure of socialism (albeit in a different format), but nevertheless will be restored in Russia .. Otherwise, Russia will not survive among these sharks of imperialism and other Nazi evil spirits raising its head ..
      4. savage1976 1 May 2020 01: 57 New
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        That’s all the “crying Yaroslavn” on VO that gave little. To all our people, mercantilistic values ​​are not interesting. Yeah, yes, of course.
    2. Prisoner April 30 2020 17: 53 New
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      "To build the entire economy of the country only on this is a strategic mistake of economic policy ..." (c) If it is only a mistake. what A. if something more?
      1. alone April 30 2020 17: 56 New
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        A. if something more?

        It is possible .. One of the options for such a policy is that it is easier to pump finances into your own pockets ..
    3. Gegemon April 30 2020 18: 45 New
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      Quote: lonely
      Selling oil and creating a small pill is understandable ..

      We were preparing for this all and more than once the eggplant was saving the Russian economy ..
      Quote: lonely
      .A to keep the ruble exchange rate spent the same money from the capsule ..
      There is a small pill, but it is not infinite .. What will happen when the small pill disappears?

      Well, Russia now has such a trump card as food security .. But everything happened with us (thanks to the sanctions)))
      Now even the UN screamed that Russia SHOULD help food for free to other countries .. Well, not all is cynical!
      After all, we created all this under the sanctions and the cries of neolib ..
      That's how we live, we chew bread (OWN) !!! hi
      1. alone April 30 2020 18: 53 New
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        Quote: Gegemon
        That's how we live, we chew bread (OWN) !!!

        with such income buddy, you should have chewed bread with caviar at least hi
        1. Gegemon April 30 2020 20: 16 New
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          Quote: lonely
          Quote: Gegemon
          That's how we live, we chew bread (OWN) !!!

          with such income buddy, you should have chewed bread with caviar at least hi

          Alas, people like me prefer not to eat caviar in taverns with women, but to tear into space, as it was in Soviet times hiAnd I really hope that we will restore it all and disperse the whole riffraff. soldier
          1. alone April 30 2020 20: 31 New
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            Quote: Gegemon
            Alas, people like me prefer not to eat caviar in taverns with women, but to tear into space, as it was during Soviet times. And I really hope that we will restore it and disperse the whole racket ..

            belay Meehan, are you this? drinks
      2. IS-80_RVGK2 April 30 2020 21: 38 New
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        Already funny. It is yours if you can pay for it. But you can’t sell it patriotically to someone who can. Well, or burn, bury, drown in the sea.
    4. Malyuta April 30 2020 18: 56 New
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      Quote: lonely
      To build the entire economy of the country only on this is strategic bug economic policy ..

      This is not a mistake, but a cynical CRIME!
      Quote: lonely
      There is a small pill, but it is not infinite .. What will happen when the small pill disappears?

      And who told you that there is still a "little egg"?
      They also told you about 25 million jobs, about salaries in 2020 of $ 2700, about the fact that he would not raise the retirement age under his reign and said a lot more, promised, said again and again promised.
      You want, but I did not believe him and do not believe him now.
  3. Lekz April 30 2020 16: 57 New
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    To navigate in assessing the value of the ruble on the dollar is a lot of stupidity. This is just an instrument of stock speculators. The dollar itself is about nothing. When the stock market falls by a third, what remains of the currency in which it is counted?
    1. Tatyana Pershina April 30 2020 18: 02 New
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      I still do not quite understand the joyful expectation of the arrival of foreign investors. The investor, as far as I know, is not a benefactor, but the owner of the production in which he made an investment (bought a part or bought everything).
      It is clear that a self-sufficient domestic market requires a population of 250-300 million people. It would probably be better to create such a market (CIS, for example), rather than convene in-feed Vorobushki.
  4. Vinnibuh April 30 2020 16: 58 New
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    So what is the article about? belay
    1. 210ox April 30 2020 17: 05 New
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      Well, probably about the fact that we all die ... what
      1. Vinnibuh April 30 2020 17: 07 New
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        Campaign Yes, you are right laughing
  5. Titus_2 April 30 2020 16: 59 New
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    so I’m curious that somehow the Kremlin doesn’t really want to limit the withdrawal of capital, and all these measures to support the ruble are stuffing the pockets of a narrow circle of people. For me, the money that is spent on support is better to put on an infrastructure and so on, because how much they don’t invest the ruble falls anyway.
    1. BREAKTHROUGH READY April 30 2020 17: 19 New
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      International trade is impossible without a “withdrawal of capital”, and a “narrow circle of people” will not lose its place in any case.
      Who needs extra spending on infrastructure, if the vast majority of Russians are normal?
      1. Titus_2 April 30 2020 21: 06 New
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        Well, if, in all honesty, everything is fine and BO is just an outlet for us .... we’ll get drunk and that's it .. For example, I’m also ready for a breakthrough, but alas, nothing will come of it without a normal steering wheel, and unfortunately, it’s not visible.
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      D16 April 30 2020 23: 54 New
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      all of these measures to support the ruble is stuffing the pockets of a narrow circle of people.

      So it has not been supported for a long time.
  6. Covid19 Ukhan April 30 2020 17: 04 New
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    It is strange what kind of conversion is involved, if the ruble has always been wooden and has never been a currency, just like the Soviet ruble.
    1. Same lech April 30 2020 17: 12 New
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      Oh, would return to circulation gold pieces and not these pieces of paper.
      1. rocket757 April 30 2020 17: 26 New
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        Well, here, the gold dime was the currency accepted everywhere and always!
        Yeysk times are such, surrogate monetary units, BUT, if / as soon as the gold standard returns ...... wow how fun it will be to someone !!!
        1. Covid19 Ukhan April 30 2020 17: 34 New
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          What is the problem, enter the ruble secured by gold on the market! Look, stupid Americans have a printing machine, but what prevents you with an extra chromosome?
    2. Kronos April 30 2020 17: 18 New
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      The Soviet ruble or the ruble of the Russian empire was quite a currency
      1. Covid19 Ukhan April 30 2020 17: 21 New
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        The Soviet ruble has never been a currency! The USSR has always experienced a shortage of foreign currency and often offered barter to the West. The same currency shops "Birch" were created to receive dollars, if the ruble was a currency, then it paid the West for deliveries!
      2. AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 17: 43 New
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        The ruble RI was a currency. Soviet ruble - no. Fantik for domestic consumption.
    3. BREAKTHROUGH READY April 30 2020 17: 30 New
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      The modern ruble is a full-fledged currency suitable for any transactions, incl. international.
      Moreover, our government has in fact proved that it is keeping its commitments.
      1. Covid19 Ukhan April 30 2020 17: 35 New
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        Read carefully: The Soviet ruble has never been a currency! The USSR has always experienced a shortage of foreign currency and often offered barter to the West. The same currency shops "Birch" were created to receive dollars, if the ruble was a currency, then it paid the West for deliveries! The same situation with the modern ruble, all foreign transactions are carried out in dollars
        1. BREAKTHROUGH READY April 30 2020 17: 44 New
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          Already changed shoes? So I remind you:
          what kind of conversion is it if ruble always was wooden and never was a currency, as well as the Soviet ruble.
          1. Covid19 Ukhan April 30 2020 17: 54 New
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            Where do you see about shoes? Soviet and modern rubles are not currencies !!! Otherwise, buying equipment in Finland, for example, you would pay in rubles!
            1. BREAKTHROUGH READY April 30 2020 18: 01 New
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              The Soviet ruble was not really a currency, but this does not apply to the modern Russian ruble.
              Buying equipment in Finland to use foreign currency is corny more profitable and simpler.
              Personally, I'm not sure that we trade with the Finns through the dollar, and not, say, the euro. The popularity of currency in international trade directly depends on the power of the economy, and here, for obvious reasons, Russia can not compete with the EU or the United States.
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                1. BREAKTHROUGH READY April 30 2020 18: 18 New
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                  according to your ill logic, there are no currencies besides the dollar in the world
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                    1. BREAKTHROUGH READY April 30 2020 18: 25 New
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                      And what about the euro, why does the EU not trade the euro outside the eurozone, why are all the largest international deals in green candy wrappers?
                      With the pound it’s still clearer, it’s absolutely a piece of wood, like a ruble.
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                      2. BREAKTHROUGH READY April 30 2020 18: 36 New
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                        Let me remind you that you yourself cited the example of the euro and pounds as a “labor currency”, and I just pointed out to you that their convertibility is no different from the “wooden” ruble.
                        On this, I advise you to change your shoes again and still recognize the fact that the Russian ruble is no worse than any other national currencies.
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                    Why are all the biggest international deals in green candy wrappers?

                    The European Union was defeated in World War II and the rules of the game were established by the winners. Rather, those who managed to squeeze more out of their own victory.
                    Just like with all deals with cocoa beans. They are held only in British pounds. Why? lol
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          . Otherwise, buying equipment in Finland, for example, you would pay in rubles!

          Do not know how on Ukraine, and in Russia you cannot pay either USD, or other dollars, or euros. Hryvnia, too, can not. In the USA, yen and pounds will not be accepted at the store.
          Rђ RІRѕS, on Ukraine, I perfectly calculated in the market in rubles.
          By the way, the question is the hryvnia is already convertible, in connection with the association with the EU?
          1. Covid19 Ukhan April 30 2020 20: 15 New
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            I am not Ukrainian and I don’t know how it is with the hryvnia!
          2. LKW UE April 30 2020 20: 55 New
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            But in Ukraine, I perfectly calculated in the market in rubles.

            В This could happen to Ukraine before 2014, well, maybe in the eastern regions that are neighbors with Russia. Now I don’t even imagine what for who the rubles are already needed. To save savings - only euros or dollars. In general, money should be stored in banks - glass, iron or wooden!)
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              ANB April 30 2020 22: 45 New
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              . In Ukraine, this could have been before 2014,

              On the Ukraine is already convertible hryvnia?
              И on Ukraine, I calculated, even before 2014. But the hryvnia, neither then nor now, is needed by anyone outside Ukraine.
              Yes, in fact, the inability to spend rubles abroad does not bother me at all. The ruble card is accepted everywhere in the world. And in Russia I can buy for rubles any currency for any amount.
              1. LKW UE 1 May 2020 01: 49 New
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                В Ukraine like on Russia has a one-to-one situation, both “currencies” are steadily devaluing and are not of interest to anyone in the world. Only Russia, under sanctions and at any time, can cut off a system of interbank transfers and your ruble card abroad can become an ordinary piece of plastic.
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                  You do not violate the rules of the site. The Russian language is accepted here. And in Russian on Ukraine and в Russia.
                  And on the topic: what kind of such "system of interbank transfers" can Russia be disconnected from?
                  Note: SWIFT is not a translation system. And the State Department has already demanded to disconnect Russia from it. And somehow it didn’t turn off for some reason.
                  Cards are generally served by clearing systems. You’ll expel a visa and a master horseradish from Russia. Already tried. Got hold and sit. And they spit on sanctions. Because of this, the world is moving poorly in our country. Although I myself designed the world, but the master threw it away.
                  By the way and on Ukraine already has its own payment system?
                  1. LKW UE 1 May 2020 09: 42 New
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                    You do not violate the rules of the site. The Russian language is accepted here. And in Russian in Ukraine and in Russia

                    In Russian, it’s customary, if you mean the state, to write - В Ukraine, and the fact that you deliberately demean my country by highlighting on does not do you honor, remember once and for all - Ukraine is a state independent, torn to pieces, miserable, out of control, dependent on external players, with rulers and Nazis and criminals from power, traitors who destroyed the integrity of a single country, burn him in hell forever for it !
                    But this is my country with beautiful people, which are the majority. And someday, I believe, we will be freed from internal traitors, and then from the influence of neighbors from east and west.
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                    In Russian, it is customary, if you mean the state, to write - In Ukraine
                    In Cuba, for example, in Tahiti. Calm down already, this is not humiliation, this is the sound.
                  3. ANB
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                    . remember once and for all - Ukraine is a state independent,

                    This is you rub your nezalezhnikami. And remember once and for all that Ukraine is a piece my a country in which there are many people who have the same language with me and who think like me. Which tricked away from a large country. And now the aggressive minority is imposing its compatriots on their own language, their faith, their fictional history, their fake "heroes". All this is foreign to them.
                    And learn Russian first.
                    The prepositions in and do not in any way indicate the state and territory. In Mordovia, in the Republic of Ukraine. In Cuba.
                    PS. Tired of tinkers who, by the cry of another government until 2014, distorted their tongue. Now, at least on TV, most speak correctly.
                  4. LKW UE 1 May 2020 16: 31 New
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                    Our piece will be across your throat. We have a multinational country and Russian is the language of the majority. You have already emptied such a large country and there will be no return to the past. And by your actions you are only moving away our countries. In the Donbass in Ukraine, in the Urals in Russia, learn Russian more carefully, and not as it seems to you more convenient to pronounce. This topic has already been examined more than once. New generations have already grown, for which it is natural that we live in our own country. Nostalgia for the past is quite natural, but there have been too many negative events in our history, after the Crimea and Donbass no one wants to live in the same country with you anymore. You have no idea; you, like ours, have wild capitalism, only multiplied by memories of past greatness.
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                    ANB 1 May 2020 18: 48 New
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                    . Our piece will cross your throat.

                    No, you chew your piece. Slowly and diligently. I don’t like feces.
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                    . We have a multinational country and Russian is the language of most

                    And what do you obey Bandera and are ready to forget your native language?
                  7. ANB
                    ANB 1 May 2020 18: 53 New
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                    . In the Donbass in Ukraine, in the Urals in Russia, learn Russian more carefully, and not as it seems to you more convenient to pronounce.

                    We teach. Here, we are correcting the errors. Learning to write prepositions correctly. Well, you don’t need it anymore. Unless competently write on Russian sites, so as not to be banned.
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                    . New generations have already grown, for which it is natural that we live in our own country.

                    A generation of traitors and slaves? This is me about your generation. Our deeds of ancestors are respected.
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                    Generations of people who are beginning to realize that they live in their own country, which must be rebuilt. You know, until 2014, I somehow envied Russian life, the movement and all that, but right now it seems to me that Russia is slipping into stagnation. After the Maidan, we got dirty foam and mold upstairs, but after Crimea and Donbass, self-awareness turned on. Civil society began to develop faster, people begin to understand that only they themselves can change something, because there is no hope for power, and you still have one plus - this is Putin, after the Crimea and Donbass - it is an inviolable value.
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                    . Civil society began to develop faster, people begin to understand that only they themselves can change something, because there is no hope for power,

                    Was it necessary to stupid before 2014? So already in 1993 I stopped hoping for power. Like most Russians.
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                    You did not understand me, I meant that as a society, Russia plunges into a swamp, on the contrary it wakes us up.
                    You know what the trouble of the Ukrainian is that everyone considers himself the smartest, and he doesn’t give a damn about others. But, I see the situation is changing a little, people are becoming more organized.
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                    . I see the situation is gradually changing, people are becoming more organized.

                    Why can’t you protect your language from Bandera?
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            . after the Crimea and Donbass, no one wants to live in the same country with you anymore.

            Since 2014, the Svidomo mantra.
            Let me remind you that at first there was a collapse, then a maidan and a Muscovite for a gilyaka. And then Crimea.
            And Crimea, for some reason, did not repel the desire of Donbass to leave for Russia.
            And Stephen Seagal doesn't on I went to Ukraine.
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            . You have no idea; you, like ours, have wild capitalism, only multiplied by memories of past greatness.

            Here it is almost true.
            Only here they are trying to fix it, and Ukraine is sinking further and further. Re-read Tarasa Bulbu. Or take a look.
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        I live in Sevastopol, but I lived IN UKRAINE soaked ... sound like that nightingale ... Thank God and the Sevastopol residents and Crimeans escaped from your PyrEzentives, cross-country masses,
        that of benches and urns painted in yellow-black color

        One hatred remained for Ukraine ...
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    Quote: ANB
    in Russia you cannot pay either USD, or other dollars, or euros.
    Not all, yes, but they take bucks for a sweet soul.
  • dvina71 April 30 2020 17: 54 New
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    Currency shops "Birch" were created to receive dollars

    Immediately obvious .. Ukrainian education .. The main slogans, the facts only interfere with them.
    First .. the USSR has always conducted foreign trade with a surplus, with the exception of a few years .. war, industrialization .. So the USSR had no problems with currency.
    Shops "birch" did not trade for currency, they took the so-called "foreign rubles", which received Soviet citizens for work outside the USSR. I served in Cuba and I was supposed to have 5 such rubles a month, I could spend them only in a local store authorized to accept this currency.
    The modern ruble is not a reserve currency .. this is true, although Russian treasury demand is.
    In addition ... currency today, it is a financial instrument .. including the ruble. That hryvnia is not interesting to anyone and is not a tool.
    The meaning of the modern ruble is the balance of interests of exporters and importers. You can raise the dollar price in the Russian Federation and successfully export everything that comes to hand. But in a few years there will be a question of equipment modernization .. and here it is already necessary to increase the ruble exchange rate .. In general, so that the processes would not be interrupted .. and trade was going on and modernization, a balanced exchange rate of the domestic currency is needed.
    Although it is possible as in the 90s .. inflation is tens of percent per year, the dollar is low and stable. Small-scale market trade flourishes, everything is imported. From toothbrushes and sausages, to cars ..
    Accordingly, the domestic industry .. quietly and confidently dying, just like now in Ukraine ... but the hryvnia is valuable ... yeah ...
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        Ukrainians seem to be everywhere screamers!

        With the naked eye you can see that you are with an independent .. not tryndi.
        Two ... Soviet people could not pay in the currency within the country ... article of the Criminal Code. Therefore, Birch, albatross ... worked with them for ... well, let the checks .. As for foreigners ... I don’t know ... but to say that selling foreign goods in Berezka for currency, this store somehow provided an influx of currency to the USSR .. complete illiteracy.
        I did not understand how the Pepsi deal relates to a shortage of currency in the USSR .. but there was enough money for equipment, medical, industrial, scientific .. in the mid-eighties, equipment was bought in large quantities abroad. Primarily for your Ukraine .. Although .. so I did not find open boxes with machine tools in the early 2000s, in Bryansk .. at the BAZ ... there were several dozen of them there ..., they were paid in 89, but they got and were no longer needed.
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      2. ANB
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        Ltd. Is tenge also a convertible currency?
        And you can pay them at least in Minsk or Prague?
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          What are we discussing tenge?
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    You generally think about what you are writing .... a dozen other stores for such a power that the USSR was. I was in a birch and in an Irish house on the Arbat, few people, and even Soviet people from abroad will be returning where the currency could be spent?
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 30 2020 17: 47 New
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    M-d ... What article, such comments.
    Our country has convincingly proved that investing in its economy is irrational
    1. BREAKTHROUGH READY April 30 2020 18: 31 New
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      Our country has convincingly proved that investing in its economy is irrational
      You say so, as if it were something bad. Russia has its own path, and we must accept this conscious choice of Russians with due respect.
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        Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
        You say so, as if it were something bad.

        This is VERY bad.
        Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
        Russia has its own path, and we must accept this conscious choice of Russians with due respect.

        The Russians did not make this choice, I do not remember anything referenda on this topic.
        In short - our powers that be have bet on limiting the money supply to reduce inflation. As a result, we have about half the money in circulation (kopecks per ruble of the manufactured goods) than in the same Europe. This naturally causes a wild monetary deficit (late payments for us is the norm) and a high cost of loans, and the “Russians” (that is, several Russians under the leadership of the president) pushed us to the WTO, a fair competition.
        Question. How honest is it if a European industrialist of the same level can attract three times as many loans for his development, including investment, and at the same time they will cost him half as much as me? How?
        The answer from the Ministry of Finance (Kudrin then) was simple - we don’t have enough money - borrow in the West. And now, many corporations have come across this same IPO - that is, selling their shares / bonds on import exchanges. This is a very expensive and time-consuming process, a lot of costs, but the ability to get loans at a normal price should have compensated for everything.
        Well, we got dollar loans ... and then the crisis and a sharp drop in the ruble. And overnight, everyone who went on an IPO received a fabulous increase in debt - they earned something in rubles, but they must be given in dollars ... It was a real disaster.
        That is, it was the government that built the system under which industry had to go with the outstretched hand to the West for a credit ruble, it DIRECTLY indicated that this should be done. And, having started games with the ruble exchange rate, she herself killed both the idea and the enterprises that followed it.
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          The Russians did not make this choice
          Even as they did, at every election they vote for those who promise as much stability and maximum traditions as possible.
          our powers that be have relied on money supply to curb inflation.
          and I already wrote about this in one of the previous comments on the article. It seems to me that this is the only right decision.
          As a result, we have about half the money in circulation (kopecks per ruble of the manufactured goods) than in the same Europe
          Where then is my ruble at 160 euros? Well, an absurdity, are you ...
          This naturally causes a wild cash deficit (late payments are the norm for us
          WHAT?!?!?!
          and high cost of loans
          The reason for the traditionally high cost of loans is a high key rate, high inflation and, until recently, low competition in the banking environment. But recently, the situation with loans, especially with a mortgage, has improved markedly.
          if a European industrialist of the same level can attract three times as many loans for his development, including investment, and at the same time they will cost him half as much as me?
          So you think that the problems of domestic industry are caused by underfunding and poor lending conditions?))) I haven’t laughed at that for a long time))
          It is state-owned companies that are taking loans from state-owned banks regardless of the conditions (the state pays for everything), but for some reason private owners find sources of financing and don’t complain about loans, and in general, they live well if the legal system allows them to rest.
          I won’t say anything about the evil Kudrin, who allegedly single-handedly "torn off" the economy of a mighty power, but I think the story is about the same as with the "money shortage."
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            Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
            and I already wrote about this in one of the previous comments on the article. It seems to me that this is the only right decision.

            Given that in other countries there is much more money in circulation than ours, this may not be the only right decision.
            Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
            Where then is my ruble at 160 euros? Well, an absurdity, are you ...

            In Russia, the money supply is about 40 kopecks per ruble of marketable products. In Germany, about 80 cents per euro of marketable products. How did you manage to conclude from this that the ruble should cost 160 euros? :)))
            Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
            WHAT?!?!?!

            The same thing. Money is a product whose only consumer value is the ability to exchange for other goods. Money is the "lubricant" of the economy, which provides the processes of production and sale of goods. If they are not enough, then this affects the economic mechanisms in the most negative way. In our country, there is simply not enough money to support the production processes of products and services.
            Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
            The reason for the traditionally high cost of loans is a high key rate, high inflation and, until recently, low competition in the banking environment.

            You are both right and wrong. The main reason for the high cost of loans is that in the credit system there is little money. That is why, according to the laws of supply and demand, they go to those who can pay the highest price for them than banks (including the Central Bank) use. And inflation and high interest rates are a consequence of the insane policy of restricting the money supply and the regulator’s desire to make money from it.
            I’ll tell you a military secret - in European countries the key rate is BELOW inflation, this is done specifically so that banks can earn money without raising interest on the loan.
            Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
            So you think that the problems of domestic industry are caused by underfunding and poor lending conditions?))) I haven’t laughed at that for a long time))

            Laugh further, I repeat, you have little understanding of what you are writing about.
            Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
            It is state-owned companies that are taking loans from state-owned banks regardless of the conditions (the state pays for everything), but for some reason private owners find sources of financing and don’t complain about loans, and in general, they live well if the legal system allows them to rest.

            Sorry, complete nonsense. State-owned companies are now in the market, and the state pays nothing for them. And private commercial companies are choking on enslaving credit conditions.
            And what does it mean - "do not complain"? Do you communicate with many CFOs to make such statements?
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      The "state" convincingly proved that its "economy" is only able to "gut" the bowels and pockets of its own citizens.
  • businessv April 30 2020 17: 43 New
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    It’s strange what kind of conversion is involved

    There is no peace from you in life, so you are still virus! Sin!
    1. rocket757 April 30 2020 18: 26 New
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      It’s high time to leave Soviet affairs alone, especially to all sorrows to boltologists.
      There was everything and a lot.
      What do we have now ??? And also a lot and in different ways .... but the pood is also 16 kg. And the fact that everyone’s refrigerators are filled differently is always and everywhere!
      Boom realists, want what we want!
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    It is strange what kind of conversion is involved, if the ruble has always been wooden and has never been a currency, just like the Soviet ruble.

    The national currency of the Russian Federation is the Russian ruble, which consists of 100 kopecks (the latter act as exchange units in relation to the national currency). Examples of international currencies are ECU, Euro, Special Drawing Rights. (C) Wiki
  • Old Horseradish April 30 2020 17: 11 New
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    So we "got up from our knees." "Go Russia!" And if there is an abyss or ravine ahead ....

    The subcolony has sub-monetary units. This is a stupid historical fact at a given historical moment.
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      The dollar also costs nothing with such a US debt ... Americans skillfully transferred this debt to the whole world ... so there is no point in comparing these monetary units.
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        Quote: The same Lech
        The dollar also costs nothing with such a US debt ... Americans skillfully transferred this debt to the whole world ... so there is no point in comparing these monetary units.

        The whole world works for the Amer dollar and it’s very difficult to get out of this vicious circle .. But work is being done in this direction, it’s possible that the pandemic will finally explain this to the third world countries .. The soap bubble of the green paper has inflated to an incredible size and we are all on it we work, after the collapse of the USSR and we will never get out of the crisis, like many other countries of the world .. Dollar slaves should work, not think and buy, buy, buy negative
      2. Ross xnumx April 30 2020 17: 45 New
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        The dollar also does not cost anything with such a US debt ... the Americans skillfully shifted ...

        I agree. Just what is the ruble worth? Who put it in such conditions that a country that really has reserves of minerals, resources, energy capacities is weaving with such key rates of the Central Bank, at which banking and currency speculators are gaining profit?
        Maybe, for starters, we can denominate the ruble? Perhaps it’s enough to “recapitalize” banks, and to start dispossessing bankers?
        It is not the Americans who have shifted their debt, it is in Russia that the liberal economy has come under ... Is there anything in the world (left) that you can buy only for the ruble? An exclusive product, product, product that has a purely Russian origin, is simply obliged to sell for rubles. It is so obvious how it is unnatural to declare printed matter as currency ...
        1. AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 18: 34 New
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          What does it mean to "dekulakize bankers" Squeeze funds from enterprises and citizens from bank accounts?
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            Nationalize by taking away owners
            1. AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 21: 08 New
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              And what will change? And nothing will change except a loss of trust in those who treat private property in this way. Interest on loans will definitely not decrease. This has already passed: the Bolsheviks have somehow squeezed out the property from the owners and hello, ruin. Already for 15 years.
              1. Kronos April 30 2020 21: 22 New
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                The devastation was from war and disease + intervention of the Entente private property must be abolished
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                  And who is to blame for the civil war? Who didn’t want to share power with other parties, although they constituted a minority in the Constituent Assembly? No, the devastation was precisely because the Bolsheviks who had outlived their property did not know how to manage enterprises, unlike their former owners. Theorists who had very vague concepts about economics. Well, if the private property is canceled, then you will queue for the sausage and will ride a bucket of bolts called "Lada" in a shapeless suit from the "Bolshevichka" and most likely choke on a cattle bus.
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                    These "theoreticians" carried out industrialization from scratch, creating many branches of industry and created an army that was able to withstand the best Nazi at that time
                    1. AU Ivanov. 1 May 2020 00: 21 New
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                      Army yes. As I already wrote in the military sphere, we were forced to compete. And the rest, that cars, that household appliances, and even civilian aircraft, were backward. And the great power that broke the ridge of Hitler, as it was not appropriate to create a shortage of goods for its citizens, do not you? Here. This country has been destroyed - inability or unwillingness to provide its citizens with affordable and quality goods.
              2. IS-80_RVGK2 April 30 2020 21: 56 New
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                Either effective capitalists. They squeezed out people's property in the year 91, and they have not been able to get out of the devastation for 30 years. They also arranged.
                1. AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 22: 24 New
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                  And where did you see the devastation? And what is public property. It was state, it has remained now. And I don’t remember the people, it never was. Did the factory shares belong to you?
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                    Where it is. For example, a bunch of closed enterprises in my city. You don’t even try your demagoguery on the topic of non-state people will not work.
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                      And what did these enterprises produce? And were their products in demand? Or was the quality of the product that they preferred imported, as more reliable and cheaper? This is the main reason for the closure of most enterprises. And from the people’s, from the enterprises there were only cooperatives that belonged to those working in them in the form of shares. The rest were state owned and operated by government agencies. Moreover, they managed in such a way that as soon as the economy opened up to the outside world, so (see above) their products suddenly became useless to anyone - foreign analogues were better.
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                        Well, where after 30 years is your product that is better than foreign. She suddenly is practically gone. Sadness, yes I understand.
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                        If 70 years to keep the country's economy without competition among world manufacturers, then where does it come from, competitive then? And for 30 years it is very difficult to fix it. Heavy Soviet legacy. The defense industry is fine, there we were forced to compete with the West, and as for civilian goods, alas, backwardness.
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        Dear, for starters, instead of Sakhipzadovna, it’s necessary to remove Glogyev’s and the Bank of Russia from submission to the inagents
  • rocket757 April 30 2020 17: 22 New
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    And the pood, as it was, is 16 kilograms!
    Everything in this world is relative, and the opportunity to buy what you need, at your SALARY, to fill the refrigerator, is an eternal criterion! The rest is all from the evil one!
  • Chaldon48 April 30 2020 17: 32 New
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    It's time to introduce a fixed ruble exchange rate.
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    its consequences for national economies, including the Russian one, will have to be raked for a long time, and the regulator’s resources thrown to support the domestic currency are not unlimited.
    But the regulator has unlimited possibilities to do whatever it pleases in our financial market! No wonder his leader earned the title "Best Central Bank Leader in the World"! Nabiullina should be responsible for the lack of speculation on our currency exchange, instead she goes to mattress for the next batch of instructions and does not interfere with speculation or the withdrawal of currency from our country!
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 30 2020 17: 45 New
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    Why write about issues you don’t understand at all? Article delusional from and to
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      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Why write about issues you don’t understand at all? Article delusional from and to

      Our ATMs have stopped accepting payments for telephone and Internet. But there appeared a certain column "self-encashment", "charity" and some other kind of trinkets (I didn’t remember). For housing and communal services also ceased to accept. What is going on?
      1. Nekarmadlen April 30 2020 23: 45 New
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        [quote] At us, ATMs stopped accepting payments for telephone and Internet. But there appeared a certain column "self-encashment", "charity" and some other kind of trinkets (I didn’t remember). For housing and communal services also ceased to accept. What is going on? .... Did you go to Sberbank?) There are usually ATMs for depositing and withdrawing, and there are payments and transfers))) Above in capital letters it says what for what))))
        1. Mordvin 3 April 30 2020 23: 51 New
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          Quote: Nekarmadlen
          Sberbank logged in?

          Into him, darling.
          Quote: Nekarmadlen
          Above in capital letters it is written what for what))))

          It is written that the tablet is hanging, it has been depositing money for more than one year, and it has been put down for mobile communications a couple of weeks ago. And on the ATM screen there is no longer payment for Internet and mobile communications. All the same ATM, as many as two machines there. But there were innovations.
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          "self-encashment", "charity" and some other kind of trinkets (I don’t remember)

          There is a housing and communal services column, but it does not work.
          1. Nekarmadlen April 30 2020 23: 56 New
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            Could replace the terminals, separately for making, separately for payment)) Try installing the Sberbank application online, and you can make all payments through your smartphone)))
            1. Mordvin 3 1 May 2020 00: 00 New
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              Quote: Nekarmadlen
              Try installing the Sberbank application online, and you can make all payments through your smartphone)))

              Are you kidding me, or what? In your opinion, I'm completely stupid and can’t make payments via the Internet? But the trouble is, on the map I have penny, can you teach me how to stuff cash into a smartphone?
            2. Mordvin 3 1 May 2020 00: 16 New
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              Quote: Nekarmadlen
              Could replace terminals, separately for deposit, separately for payment))

              And with logic, you don’t have much, if there is “charity”, then I can get money for a great living? Can you try it yourself?
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                Previously, there were universal ATMs in Sberbank branches, it was possible to deposit to a card, withdraw cash, make a transfer, pay for communication services and utilities, and more. Now, many branches have made separate ATMs for depositing and withdrawing, and for paying for services other ATMs for cashless payments .. And charity is only from your account to send to some charity fund .. (((
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                  Quote: Nekarmadlen
                  Now many branches have made ATMs separately for depositing and withdrawing, and other ATMs for cashless payments to pay for services ..

                  Near our house, it’s universal. I can go and take a picture, you will see this “charity” yourself. Yes, so I served the bankers! Very crazy there.
  • Atlant-1164 April 30 2020 17: 54 New
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    Now we are witnessing far from the first large-scale devaluation of the ruble in the last decade.

    -a last 30 years .. I did not notice the stability in the ruble.
    Meanwhile, for almost a decade and a half, the exchange rate of the Russian currency remained relatively stable.

    - with a “stable” ruble, the cost of fuel and utilities and housing and communal services grew exponentially!
    what stability are you talking about ... about whose rubles are converted into currency ??
  • veritas April 30 2020 18: 34 New
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    What would the ruble be a strong currency, for this you need:
    - produce products in demand in the world
    - respect their own citizens
    1. agond April 30 2020 19: 25 New
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      There is such a science in physics, its main subject is the definition of “exchange rates” between between - mass, distance, time, strength, tension, and so on, therefore physics has a “exchange rate” constant, and money measures desire and desire, people , therefore, people’s exchange rates (like the prices of goods) and that’s it, the conclusion is that if people want to change their internal value system, then this will automatically change the exchange rates of prices and prices of goods. In relation to the current situation, this means that everything is possible and not so bad, you just need to realize what is more important and what is not and rethink your needs
  • Junior Private April 30 2020 20: 43 New
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    Read carefully: The Soviet ruble has never been a currency! The USSR has always experienced a shortage of foreign currency


    ??? Suppose for a second that this statement is true, although it is not true. But no one can deny that the USSR was a superpower, fed and watered the countries of the Warsaw block, a good half of Africa, and a lot of people sponsored it. And yet, which is very characteristic, the RSFSR acted as the breadwinner for all, except for the two republics that are now called the ex-USSR. And suddenly it turns out that the ruble is not a currency. Oh how! Just some miracles you tell.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 30 2020 21: 51 New
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      Quote: Junior Private
      And suddenly it turns out that the ruble is not a currency. Oh how!

      However, this is a fact. And yes, indeed, the USSR at the same time
      Quote: Junior Private
      was a superpower, fed-watered the countries of the Warsaw block, a good half of Africa, but many who sponsored
      1. bk0010 1 May 2020 00: 38 New
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        Rubles were different. Wooden, transferable, foreign. But yes, the ruble was not a currency.
    2. AU Ivanov. April 30 2020 23: 04 New
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      The ruble, like any currency, was a currency. For domestic use, not quoted on foreign markets. And not converted. Outside the USSR - a candy wrapper.
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        The ruble, like any currency, was a currency

        A person had a view not only of a currency, but of a convertible currency, I did not focus on this
  • parusnik April 30 2020 20: 44 New
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    How so ? In the 90s, they promised, to make a ruble, convertible and it’s not like that .. But the West will help us .. not in vain I invested so much dough ... In VAZ, KAMAZ, UAZ, etc ... laughing
  • Dimmedroll April 30 2020 21: 17 New
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    Honestly, I do not believe in all this. But I believe in speculative games. I look at the stock exchange and see an increase in oil prices and an increase in currencies. Although this should not be, well, not like, and then. At the same time, the Norwegian currency has not fallen so much. Although they have a much greater economic dependence on oil than ours.
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      But I believe in speculative games.

      In the USA there is such a tax, a sales tax, that is, bought, sold at a profit or loss, it does not matter, pay the tax and go in peace ... well, it greatly shortens the chain of resellers, intermediaries and speculators, but the added tax there is no value in the United States, and yet Mayakovsky once said, take positive examples from the capitalists, they are very rational, the same Henry Ford.,
  • skobars April 30 2020 22: 19 New
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    As the dollar collapses, the ruble will soar.
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      How the dollar will crash

      He himself will not collapse wassat Help is needed however tongue First of all, do not keep reserves in the dollar, and do not buy mattress debts! hi
  • awdrgy April 30 2020 23: 37 New
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    And why the "golden rupe" does not enter? What do we have no mines or what? All these are some kind of “unhealthy games”. So to speak, the political question.
  • nov_tech.vrn 1 May 2020 01: 22 New
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    The ruble was actually transferred to the category of quasi-currencies in 1992, when its exchange rate was simultaneously equated to the rate prevailing on the currency exchange, the volume of trading on this exchange was penny, compared with the volume of the Russian economy, liberal economists did not care, it was necessary destroy the economy itself. Legally, the status of the Central Bank as a satellite of the Fed was enshrined in the Yeltsin Constitution of 93 years. Currently, the Central Bank of Russia is independent from Russia and is actually engaged in servicing the free movement of capital (read the withdrawal of capital from Russia). The so-called floating ruble exchange rate, the main "merit" of Ms. Nabiulina and her administration, serves as an easy injection of speculative capital into Russia, and no less easy the withdrawal of profits resulting from speculation. I use the word speculation solely as a financial term.
  • nikvic46 1 May 2020 06: 18 New
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    While we are busy import substitution, they will continue to give us consumer goods. The endless wagons of fruits and vegetables in the Far East from China hit the local producer painfully. Now we need to help agriculture first of all. It feeds us for a day or year.
  • fif21 1 May 2020 08: 16 New
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    If all countries need to get something and produce, then it is enough for the mattresses to turn on the printing press, so that they have everything they need. The rejection of the dollar as a payment world currency will save the world from the dictates of the United States. And work is going on in this direction. hi
  • Whirlwind 4 May 2020 17: 37 New
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    The dollar after the abolition of the golden brake has long been depreciated and, in fact, turned the Fed into waste paper. The ruble from the nineties tightly tied to the dollar. Now the Fed is putting out a social and economic fire in the United States with new trillions of unsecured dollars. Therefore, to all countries that use dollars, the United States will again fuse its inflation, and this will inevitably lead to devaluation.
    Moreover, in Russia, the Central Bank operates in a "currency exchange" mode and the government does not have a decree for it.
    See Art. 75 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation ...