US losses from coronavirus exceeded losses of Vietnam war

US losses from coronavirus exceeded losses of Vietnam war

The losses of the United States from the coronavirus pandemic exceeded the total losses of the American side in the Vietnam War. It is reported by CNN.


According to the Johns Hopkins University, which statistics in the context of the coronavirus pandemic, from COVID-19 infection in total, since February 6, 2020 (the first official death from coronavirus), more than 58 thousand people died in the United States, which already exceeded the total losses incurred by the United States during the Vietnam War.

It is noted that 82 thousand 58 people died in the USA from coronavirus in 365 days, while the number of deaths in the Vietnam War, which lasted 9 years, amounted to 58 thousand 220 people. In this case, the coronavirus pandemic is still ongoing and the number of deaths may increase repeatedly.

Other media in the US also maintain statistics. Thus, in National Geographic, losses from coronavirus infection were compared with US losses in the First World War and in the Korean Wars. According to the publication, the coronavirus has long "surpassed" the figures of losses in these wars, where 20 thousand American citizens died in the early 53,4th century, and 50 thousand Americans in the 36,5s.

Meanwhile, while CNN was publishing its material, the death toll from the coronavirus in the United States exceeded 59 and has already reached 59 deaths on Wednesday morning. The number of officially infected, according to Johns Hopkins University - 266, recovered - 1035765 people.
Ctrl Enter

Noticed a mistake Highlight text and press. Ctrl + Enter

104 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. Pvi1206 April 29 2020 12: 27 New
    • 4
    • 1
    +3
    malicious viruses are many times greater than the efforts of man in creating weapons of self-destruction ...
    1. Nicholas C. April 29 2020 13: 12 New
      • 4
      • 11
      -7
      Hu Xijin - Global Times Chinese and English editor-in-chief globaltimes.cn wrote: "In the United States, the number of confirmed coronavirus infections has exceeded one million. The US government has failed its people and the whole world. Rulers are fortunate that the American people are patient. If this happens in China, people would have risen a long time ago. "
      1. knn54 April 29 2020 13: 28 New
        • 3
        • 1
        +2
        Trump "promised" 200 thousand .. Less than 60 thousand died. What a "rebellion".
        1. Pereira April 29 2020 13: 59 New
          • 3
          • 2
          +1
          Diseased died at the very beginning of the epidemic. Patients 800 thousand. Soon we will remember WWII.
      2. Deniska999 April 29 2020 13: 34 New
        • 10
        • 3
        +7
        Would they rebel in China? It’s funny.
    2. Mavrikiy April 29 2020 13: 46 New
      • 2
      • 1
      +1
      Quote: Pvi1206
      malicious viruses are many times greater than the efforts of man in creating weapons of self-destruction ...

      You think so, I envy. Blessed is he who believes. request
      repeat harmful viruses are the result of human efforts to create weapons of self-destruction
  2. rocket757 April 29 2020 12: 27 New
    • 2
    • 0
    +2
    Small virus - big problems!
    At once, by the way.
    1. Roman123567 April 29 2020 12: 57 New
      • 10
      • 19
      -9
      All at once, by the way

      Do not generalize ..))
      The crown - the king, the virus - the people ..
    2. Mabius April 29 2020 15: 58 New
      • 6
      • 1
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      Small virus - big problems!
      At once, by the way.

      This virus is a test for lice and social justice in the world.
      1. rocket757 April 29 2020 16: 22 New
        • 2
        • 0
        +2
        "Small but daring!"
        Indeed, a lot of things turned out to be not right under such a check, or even completely unsuitable!
  3. alone April 29 2020 12: 29 New
    • 4
    • 1
    +3
    Mdaa .. Everyone suffers ... Regardless of age ... Coronavirus has proven that no one is safe from this infection. Even powerful powerful countries are so far powerless to do something ... Doctors have patience and good luck
    1. Roman123567 April 29 2020 12: 58 New
      • 11
      • 9
      +2
      Coronavirus proved that no one is safe from this infection
      He proved nothing ..
      In any case - nothing new .. For from the influenza and SARS people die for a long time ..
      1. alone April 29 2020 13: 27 New
        • 6
        • 3
        +3
        Quote: Roman123567
        In any case - nothing new .. For from the influenza and SARS people die for a long time ..

        Yeah .. And from the flu and from SARS, everyone together self-isolated at the direction of the authorities in their homes, and countries suffer enormous losses ... Have you ever thought when you wrote this comment .. I advise you to watch the nonsense that Malysheva and the like do Tv
        1. Roman123567 April 29 2020 13: 48 New
          • 14
          • 4
          +10
          I don’t know who Malysheva is, but some people really need to watch TV less ..
          And for those who do not understand well the first time, I will repeat it again - For from the influenza and SARS people die for a long time .. This is a fact !! And more people die from it than this year from the cove .. This is also a fact !!
          But that's why someone was self-insulating only now, and not in all previous years, when there was an influenza epidemic - you already ask yourself a question .. Although most of us work in Voronezh, and as a trade organization, 80% of our partners also works .. on the roads at least half of the cars and people on their feet .. that you can’t name any insulation, because having washed 2 fingers on your hand, you are unlikely to achieve any significant result ..
          But be that as it may, returning to the beginning of the conversation, about "Did you even think when you wrote this comment." - Come on, start listing what specifically I said is not true, and that this virus has proven NEW ..

          PS .. below the man gave a good example
          "26 OCT 2018 TASS
          The past flu season in the US has become the deadliest in decades
          79 people died of flu in the United States last fall and winter. "
          Has anyone heard of this at least once ?? No one is safe from this infection, yes, right .. But, nothing new - nothing ..
          1. alone April 29 2020 13: 56 New
            • 5
            • 5
            0
            There is a cure for the flu and there are ways how to treat it .. From SARS too ... Maybe you know the methods and treatment methods for this infection? This infection mutates, there are already dozens of varieties ..
            Quote: Roman123567
            Although most of us work in Voronezh, and as a trade organization, 80% of our partners also work ..

            I don’t know how you have it in Voronezh .. We look differently at this problem and act accordingly. Human life is the most expensive
            1. Roman123567 April 29 2020 14: 16 New
              • 15
              • 3
              +12
              There is a cure for the flu and there are ways how to treat it .. From SARS too ... Maybe you know the methods and treatment methods for this infection?

              I personally don’t know any cure for the flu .. But you won’t believe it, they’ll cure both of them in hospitals .. Apparently, there are some methods ..

              This infection mutates, there are already dozens of varieties ..

              Influenza virus mutates every year .. Every spring, humanity is faced with a new variety .. Therefore, 350-650 thousand people die in the world every year ..
              For reference, coronoviruses have also been known to mankind for decades ..

              I don’t know how you have it in Voronezh .. We look differently at this problem and act accordingly.
              Do you have it personally in your family ?? I believe .. Because I wrote that I need to watch TV less .. On the whole, there is no isolation even in Moscow .. only passes must be written out ... which is not connected with the virus ..

              Human life is the most precious thing
              In a traffic accident, your probability of dying is much higher .. Moreover, from birth to death .. every day !!
              So, if life is so expensive .. I will be glad that there will be less traffic jams if at least 10% stop leaving the house ..))

              And yes ..
              returning to the beginning of the conversation, about "Have you ever thought when you wrote this comment." - Come on, start listing what specifically I said is not true, and that this virus has proven NEW ..
              I did not hear the answer ..
              1. alone April 29 2020 14: 30 New
                • 1
                • 0
                +1
                Quote: Roman123567
                I did not hear the answer ..

                I wish you good health and that no infection bothers you .. I don’t see the point of arguing ... Everyone remains of his own opinion ... drinks hi
            2. AU Ivanov. April 29 2020 14: 59 New
              • 4
              • 1
              +3
              There is no etiotropic therapy for influenza, no. Like many other viral infections.
            3. Alex Justice April 29 2020 18: 02 New
              • 1
              • 1
              0
              There is a cure for flu and there are ways to treat it .. From SARS too

              I didn’t know. We all only recommend vitamin C and peace, still vaccinations, but few people do them.
          2. nPuBaTuP April 29 2020 14: 50 New
            • 1
            • 0
            +1
            79 people died from autumn and winter in the United States

            And here for a couple of months 53 thousand.
            1. Roman123567 April 29 2020 15: 02 New
              • 5
              • 1
              +4
              Autumn-winter is a seasonal definition .. The GRIP wave has passed and gone .. it does not last exactly 6 months .. So it's all in one ..
              Despite the fact that now they are trying to write down everyone who is too lazy into mortality from HF, not particularly understanding the reasons ..

              There is still an interesting point .. when only a few / dozens were infected, restrictions / quarantines began to be introduced ..
              Now, when, both in our country and in the USA, supposedly, the whole thing is only approaching a peak .. there is already a lot of talk about removing all isolation, and the smooth opening of all establishments .. Somehow .. to put it mildly, it's strange ..))
              1. MMX
                MMX April 29 2020 16: 13 New
                • 1
                • 1
                0
                Quote: Roman123567
                Autumn-winter is a seasonal definition .. The GRIP wave has passed and gone .. it does not last exactly 6 months .. So it's all in one ..
                Despite the fact that now they are trying to write down everyone who is too lazy into mortality from HF, not particularly understanding the reasons ..

                There is still an interesting point .. when only a few / dozens were infected, restrictions / quarantines began to be introduced ..
                Now, when, both in our country and in the USA, supposedly, the whole thing is only approaching a peak .. there is already a lot of talk about removing all isolation, and the smooth opening of all establishments .. Somehow .. to put it mildly, it's strange ..))


                If the official data is correct, then the mortality from HF in the USA at the moment is about 30%. This, if my memory serves me, is significantly higher than that of the flu.
                1. Hypatius April 29 2020 18: 08 New
                  • 0
                  • 2
                  -2
                  And here, they say about mortality of 0,1-0,3%. And I believe this more than the pandemic tragedy, which covers the global crisis of capitalism. Similar indicators in Korea, where everyone was tested, including on the streets.
            2. Alex Justice April 29 2020 18: 05 New
              • 1
              • 1
              0
              And here for a couple of months 53 thousand.

              January - February died of coronavirus 60000, from influenza during the same time 120000.
          3. Mimoprohodil April 30 2020 10: 39 New
            • 0
            • 0
            0
            Quote: Roman123567
            79 killed in the United States
            It’s only that 40 million were ill with the flu, while so far only a million with something coronavirus
      2. lis-ik April 29 2020 18: 22 New
        • 2
        • 1
        +1
        Quote: Roman123567
        Coronavirus proved that no one is safe from this infection
        He proved nothing ..
        In any case - nothing new .. For from the influenza and SARS people die for a long time ..

        Most simply do not look at mortality statistics in general and from the flu in particular. In this case, the authorities of most countries are interested in keeping statistics of influenza mortality of this modification. I’m curious about people gathered here from different regions of the country. Many relatives or acquaintances became infected with this “scarecrow” and are near death? I have extensive connections in the Moscow region, and I don’t have a single, even common acquaintance.
        1. Golovan Jack April 29 2020 19: 09 New
          • 4
          • 8
          -4
          Quote: lis-ik
          In my Moscow region with extensive connections, I don’t have a single, even common acquaintance

          I have it, in Moscow. So far, three.

          This is not a scarecrow, this is really an unpleasant thing. There are vaccines against flu, from this rubbish - there isn’t yet and, most importantly, it’s not expected. Hence everything that happens, no need to breed a horse. Spirology yes
          1. lis-ik April 30 2020 16: 37 New
            • 1
            • 0
            +1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Hence everything that happens, no need to breed a horse. Spirology

            I am far from a supporter of "conspiracy theories," but in a situation with world hysteria, everything is very muddy.
            1. Golovan Jack April 30 2020 16: 48 New
              • 5
              • 6
              -1
              Quote: lis-ik
              in a situation with world hysteria, everything is very muddy

              I don’t see anything muddy. Moreover, I don’t see much hysteria either ... well, except in VO, about some of the copies (judging by the noise made by them - not very hungry, by the way) "bloody red" help. Financial, essno.
    2. Mabius April 29 2020 17: 27 New
      • 5
      • 2
      +3
      Quote: lonely
      Mdaa .. Everyone suffers ... Regardless of age ... Coronavirus has proven that no one is safe from this infection. Even powerful powerful countries are so far powerless to do something ... Doctors have patience and good luck

      So yes, but today, infa on TV skipped that B. Gates back in 2011. predicted some kind of virus .. Google, he had a very strange statement and even the noise rose ..
      And this is the richest man in the world and he is unlikely to drive bullshit ..
  4. Angelo Provolone April 29 2020 12: 35 New
    • 5
    • 6
    -1
    If you compare the epidemic with the losses in Vietnam, then you need to compare with statistics among the military.
    Stupid feed.
    1. Pessimist22 April 29 2020 12: 41 New
      • 5
      • 1
      +4
      Write to CNN, if you read the article, it is written that it was this channel that made the comparison.
    2. codetalker April 29 2020 14: 23 New
      • 2
      • 1
      +1
      In general, I would like to see more quality material compared to this situation with the epidemics of influenza and ARVI of previous years (they happen every year) and with the known epidemics of other diseases (large-scale outbreaks of plague, smallpox, etc.).
  5. Vasyan1971 April 29 2020 12: 38 New
    • 3
    • 2
    +1
    According to the publication, the coronavirus has long "surpassed" the casualties in these wars, where 20 thousand American citizens died in the early 53,4th century, and 50 thousand Americans in the 36,5s.

    Which indicates how they fought there. "Not by number, but by skill" ©
    Ага.
    1. voyaka uh April 29 2020 13: 57 New
      • 4
      • 7
      -3
      The remaining participants in the same wars lost millions.
      1. Vasyan1971 April 29 2020 14: 15 New
        • 8
        • 2
        +6
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The remaining participants in the same wars lost millions.

        Yes. Because really involved. And they fought for real, and did not appear at the end of the batch in it white.
  6. veritas April 29 2020 12: 40 New
    • 8
    • 3
    +5
    US losses from coronavirus exceeded losses of Vietnam war

    This suggests that bacteriological weapons are dangerous and insidious and in their lethal force can be compared with nuclear weapons. And at the same time, the United States overlaid the whole world with its bacteriological bases. A serious issue to be raised at the UN.
    1. boris epstein April 29 2020 14: 38 New
      • 4
      • 0
      +4
      Russia raised this issue at the UN. The United States and Ukraine blocked the Russian draft resolution.
      1. Mabius April 29 2020 17: 36 New
        • 5
        • 1
        +4
        Quote: boris epstein
        Russia raised this issue at the UN. The United States and Ukraine blocked the Russian draft resolution.

        So it’s clear to whom it’s all profitable, but the situation is clearly out of control .. They wanted to omit China and blame everything .. But something went wrong!
  7. lwxx April 29 2020 12: 40 New
    • 7
    • 3
    +4
    . In our accident in a year, more than 10 years die in Afghanistan and Afghanistan. And from the flu in the world ... etc
  8. Uncle lee April 29 2020 12: 40 New
    • 3
    • 0
    +3
    1035765 were infected, 142238 people recovered.

    reached 59 deaths
    Where did the rest go?
    1. pru-pavel April 29 2020 12: 45 New
      • 0
      • 1
      -1
      Probably have not recovered or died. Perhaps this is not?
    2. Courier April 29 2020 12: 46 New
      • 1
      • 1
      0
      15% of the total number, in intensive care, 60% carry asymptomatic covid and are quarantined
      1. AU Ivanov. April 29 2020 12: 58 New
        • 6
        • 0
        +6
        And even more, they do not even suspect that they are infected, because they were not tested. And do not sit in quarantine, but spread the infection. And someone already got sick, not knowing about it.
    3. Mountain shooter April 29 2020 13: 25 New
      • 1
      • 0
      +1
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Where did the rest go?

      While sick in different degrees of complications ...
    4. Mikhail Tynda April 29 2020 15: 16 New
      • 1
      • 0
      +1
      They get sick ... Like all normal patients. smile
      1. Uncle lee April 29 2020 15: 44 New
        • 5
        • 0
        +5
        For these symptoms ...
  9. Hagen April 29 2020 12: 46 New
    • 7
    • 2
    +5
    82 thousand 58 people died from coronavirus in the USA in 365 days, at the same time, the death toll in the Vietnam War, which lasted 9 years, amounted to 58 thousand 220 people.

    To be honest, I am more concerned about the fact that every year on the roads of our country, for our man-made reasons, we lose more than during the entire Afghan war. And about five years ago they lost more than 2 times more, I repeat, every year. They will deal with their losses, so we would have to figure it out with their hand-clad and pogogolovye drivers, manufacturers, road builders.
    1. Nastia makarova April 30 2020 07: 32 New
      • 0
      • 1
      -1
      there is a reduction in accidents, but if there are rams on the roads, then there is nothing to be done
      1. Hagen April 30 2020 08: 24 New
        • 1
        • 0
        +1
        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        but if there are rams on the roads, there is nothing to be done

        It is with these rams that we must deal with it. As they did on the "solid marking line". In any case, drunkenness can be removed from the road (or radically reduced) by repressive measures. The same with auto-hums. It just needs political will.
        1. Nastia makarova April 30 2020 10: 08 New
          • 0
          • 1
          -1
          deprivation of rights now but still drive drunk
          1. Hagen April 30 2020 17: 31 New
            • 1
            • 0
            +1
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            deprivation of rights now but still drive drunk

            Because there is an alternative - a fine. And there should be deprivation without an alternative for 3-5 years with a transfer to the right to govern. Repeated drinking - life deprivation. Landing behind the wheel of a lichen is a criminal offense with all that it implies. I assure you, we will not let all the idiots know, but their number will be reduced by several times.
  10. A. Privalov April 29 2020 12: 48 New
    • 8
    • 5
    +3
    Exactly a month ago, there were “only” 100 cases in the United States, and today, 000.
    Exactly a month ago in the Russian Federation there were “only” 1 sick people, and today without a little - 000. It has already overtaken China and Iran ...
    The pace is very similar.
    Take care of yourself! God bless you!
    1. bk316 April 29 2020 14: 06 New
      • 10
      • 5
      +5
      The pace is very similar.

      Alexander, well, stop it. It’s like an educated person.
      And here "it was a month ago and now." Are you extrapolating the sigmoid with a linear function at 2 points or trying to guess what kind of function is this again at 2 points? laughing
      1. A. Privalov April 29 2020 14: 50 New
        • 2
        • 3
        -1
        I really want to make mistakes, but with my own eyes I see that there is a persistent growth trend:

        Toughening the quarantine regime / self-isolation, etc. is not expected, but even vice versa. Accordingly, there are no special reasons for the change.
        Why guess? If games with statistics do not start, we’ll talk in a couple of weeks.
        1. bk316 April 29 2020 16: 45 New
          • 11
          • 5
          +6
          but I see with my own eyes

          So it looks like you also need educational program. Just do not be offended if I chew the obvious.
          1. It is clear that watching the number of infected for forecasts is generally pointless. This is what accounting calls the “running total.” That is, this function is monotonically increasing.
          By and large, it is not at all interesting. The number of sick at the moment is interesting, but this is the lyrics.
          2. So for the forecast should use various algorithms based on derivatives.
          A derivative function can be considered various specially processed quantity information new diseases a day.
          3. What are these methods and why are they needed. The fact is that the number of daytime cases fluctuates, it’s just a chatter on the chart. So you need to average. For this case it is accepted moving average averaging with a period equal to the expectation of the duration of the incubation period. This is mathematically justified, but beyond the scope of the commentary.
          4. Having received a smoothed discrete function for extrapolation, you should already get a trend in the form of an analytical function. Here, specialists have a sea of ​​different methods. For simplicity bilinear filtering can be used. She is in excel and everyone can try it for himself.
          5. If all this is done, what function can be obtained. All (ALL CARL !!!!) epidemics develop on sigmoid. Theoretically, there is the so-called doomsday model when it is an exhibitor. But the coronavirus pandemic develops on a sigmoid in all countries.
          6. What are these functions and what can be said about them. Google the arc tangent, display relative to the axis. This is it.

          An important note all of the above is about DEVELOPMENT of the epidemic about damping a separate topic.

          So what do we see. At first, the daily gain increases rapidly, respectively, the number of infected increases as quickly. Then the daily gain increases more slowly (the second derivative of the number of cases tends to zero). Then the virgin growth is stabilized at a certain level (it becomes a constant). This is the plateau about which they are talking around the box.
          Accordingly, if the first derivative constant, then it means linear function. AND FOR WHICH TO ACHIEVE THE NUMBER OF INFECTED IN A MILLION, NOT A MONTH WILL BE REQUIRED, A million - minus the plateau level divided by the number of days equal to this constant. For the Russian Federation, 900000 for 6000 = 150 days.
          However, we look at the "important note". After reaching a plateau, development follows a different model. In short, the sigmoid does not develop the number of daytime cases but the total number of cases. Thus, for each case there is an asymptote to which the number of cases of infection goes.

          7. It remains to determine the asymptote for the Russian Federation and the USA. And also the moment of reaching this asymptote with a statistically insignificant margin. At present, there is a more or less consolidated opinion that a plateau has already taken place for the Russian Federation and the USA. (in the United States, I agree in the Russian Federation I would not warrant, but this is very likely). According to this opinion, the United States is guaranteed not to reach the level of 2 million, and the Russian Federation in half a million. The most likely for the Russian Federation is considered a level of 250 thousand. Naturally, this refers to the first wave of the pandemic. We need to prepare for the season of next year.

          Concluding remark. Of course, these models are much more complicated, they take into account the number of tests, population testing and deliberate distortion of information. However, general trends and approximate results can be considered so. Every student who graduated from high school in the USSR is good and excellent at good and excellent must be able to do it himself. I am not talking about people with technical education.
          Pay attention in this comment. not a line of copy-paste. laughing
          1. Tank hard April 29 2020 20: 15 New
            • 1
            • 0
            +1
            Quote: bk316

            So it looks like you also need educational program. Just do not be offended if I chew the obvious.
            1. It is clear that watching the number of infected for forecasts is generally pointless. This is what accounting calls the “running total.” That is, this function is monotonically increasing.
            By and large, it is not at all interesting. The number of sick at the moment is interesting, but this is the lyrics.
            2. So for the forecast should use various algorithms based on derivatives.
            A derivative function can be considered various specially processed information on the number of new diseases per day.
            3. What are these methods and why are they needed. The fact is that the number of daytime cases fluctuates, it’s just a chatter on the chart. So you need to average. For this case, averaging over a moving average with a period equal to the expectation of the duration of the incubation period is accepted. This is mathematically justified, but beyond the scope of the commentary.
            4. Having received a smoothed discrete function for extrapolation, you should already get a trend in the form of an analytical function. Here, specialists have a sea of ​​different methods. For simplicity, you can use bilinear filtering. She is in excel and everyone can try it for himself.
            5. If all this is done, what function can be obtained. All (ALL CARL !!!!) epidemics develop on sigmoid. Theoretically, there is the so-called doomsday model when it is an exhibitor. But the coronavirus pandemic develops on a sigmoid in all countries.
            6. What are these functions and what can be said about them. Google the arc tangent, display relative to the axis. This is it.

            An important note all of the above is about DEVELOPMENT of the epidemic about damping a separate topic.

            So what do we see. At first, the daily gain increases rapidly, respectively, the number of infected increases as quickly. Then the daily gain increases more slowly (the second derivative of the number of cases tends to zero). Then the virgin growth is stabilized at a certain level (it becomes a constant). This is the plateau about which they are talking around the box.
            Accordingly, if the first derivative is constant, then the function itself is linear. AND FOR WHICH TO ACHIEVE THE NUMBER OF INFECTED IN A MILLION, NOT A MONTH WILL BE REQUIRED, A million - minus the plateau level divided by the number of days equal to this constant. For the Russian Federation, 900000 for 6000 = 150 days.
            However, we look at the "important note". After reaching a plateau, development follows a different model. In short, the sigmoid does not develop the number of daytime cases but the total number of cases. Thus, for each case there is an asymptote to which the number of cases of infection goes.

            7. It remains to determine the asymptote for the Russian Federation and the USA. And also the moment of reaching this asymptote with a statistically insignificant margin. At present, there is a more or less consolidated opinion that a plateau has already taken place for the Russian Federation and the USA. (in the United States, I agree in the Russian Federation I would not warrant, but this is very likely). According to this opinion, the United States is guaranteed not to reach the level of 2 million, and the Russian Federation in half a million. The most likely for the Russian Federation is considered a level of 250 thousand. Naturally, this refers to the first wave of the pandemic. We need to prepare for the season of next year.

            Concluding remark. Of course, these models are much more complicated, they take into account the number of tests, population testing and deliberate distortion of information. However, general trends and approximate results can be considered so. Every student who graduated from high school in the USSR is good and excellent at good and excellent must be able to do it himself. I am not talking about people with technical education.
            Please note in this comment not a single line of copy paste.

            Class! good
          2. A. Privalov April 29 2020 21: 01 New
            • 2
            • 3
            -1
            I repeat. I would very much like to be mistaken, but the plateau is still not very close.
            After the holidays in May, we should definitely see the rise of the infected ("common villains" will be grouped together and additional sick people are guaranteed). If we don’t see, with a probability of 99% it will be possible to say that we are led by the nose.
            We certainly don’t know anything about the number of tests and their reliability; we ignore asymptomatic media; accordingly, all statistics go to hell and the use of matanalysis in such conditions is a monkey. hi
        2. Alex Justice April 29 2020 18: 09 New
          • 0
          • 1
          -1
          https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
        3. Liam April 29 2020 20: 36 New
          • 1
          • 1
          0
          Games began long ago, so the forecasts in this case are ungrateful. In order to derive some models, you need a lot of factors, the first of which is the number of tests, their quality, how many of them relate to new subjects, and how many are repeated according to old cases, how much time It has passed from the moment of taking the smear to the moment of processing and then to the moment of inclusion in statistics, transparency and political will to give objective statistics. There are big problems with all these points in the Russian Federation
  11. Roman123567 April 29 2020 12: 56 New
    • 7
    • 4
    +3
    It is noted that 82 thousand 58 people died from coronavirus in the USA in 365 days.

    +/- 700 people a day ..

    About 7 thousand people die every day in the USA without any cove ..
    It would be interesting to see exactly the general statistics .. whether it increased by these 10% in 2020, or, on the principle: it doesn’t matter what they die from - the main thing is how to count ..
  12. olhon April 29 2020 12: 57 New
    • 1
    • 2
    -1
    The answer arrived.
  13. smart fellow April 29 2020 12: 59 New
    • 4
    • 4
    0
    In the Korean War, the United States lost 150 thousand people. Years after 100 can be recognized.
    1. Red Dragon April 29 2020 13: 05 New
      • 7
      • 7
      0
      Why not 15 million? Write more, why their basurman, regret it? wink
      1. smart fellow April 29 2020 13: 14 New
        • 7
        • 3
        +4
        If you do not know something, this does not mean that it is not.

        150 thousand assessment by the DPRK.

        This author does not sympathize with the Communists.
        militera.lib.ru/h/lott_a/15.html
        Lott A. The most dangerous sea
        On July 27, 1953, that is, after 37 months and two days of the war, as well as more than two years of discussions of the ceasefire, guns fell silent in Korea. The Americans lost 142 thousand people and almost $ 20 billion in Korea.

        This is analytics.
        ohrana.ru/articles/3981/
        The modern USA manages quite successfully to hide from the world community the terrific incapacity of its own ground forces with the help of total falsification of the real numbers of its combat losses. This falsification began during the Korean War.
        1. Red Dragon April 29 2020 13: 27 New
          • 3
          • 4
          -1
          The DPRK assessment is a force of course. By the way, but, for example, how many people in the DPRK have become infected with the coronavirus today? Well, according to the most truthful assessment of the DPRK? wink
          1. smart fellow April 29 2020 13: 33 New
            • 5
            • 4
            +1
            Why do you believe the US estimates unconditionally, but not the DPRK?

            None to your regret. Foreign diplomats walk freely in Pyongyang according to information from the Russian ambassador to the DPRK.
            1. Red Dragon April 29 2020 13: 41 New
              • 4
              • 6
              -2
              Because this cannot be. Are sick in all border countries with the DPRK, but not a single person in the DPRK? Well this is not even funny. Unless, in DPRK, all the Duncans are MacLeods. Well, or just no one bother to test someone. Who died, that ARVI. wink
              1. smart fellow April 29 2020 13: 59 New
                • 3
                • 3
                0
                Is this evidence?

                DPRK closed the border with the PRC in mid-January, incl. air traffic. A little later, closed the border with Russia.

                Russia closed the land border with China on January 30. Air traffic was closed not so long ago and not completely. Look at the graph of how the virus spread in Russia.

                Need to work. You can debate later.
                1. Red Dragon April 29 2020 14: 26 New
                  • 3
                  • 1
                  +2
                  Unfortunately, I am not working today because of quarantine, be it wrong. I think the closure of quarantine schools in the DPRK at the end of February, when the borders are closed and there is not a single case of the disease, is at least strange. There are some more points which logically are not joined. In the USSR, too, almost no one heard about air crashes, except for those that cannot be hidden, for example, the death of the Pakhtakor football team, but they nonetheless were. But the USSR, in comparison with the DPRK, is simply an example of openness. Therefore, I do not believe the data from the DPRK, if only because who will contradict the official position of the "beloved leader" of the shining Kim Jong-un? There is his opinion and wrong. In the United States, with my ambiguous attitude towards them, there are Republicans and Democrats who dream of drowning each other, and almost any lies lie comes to light by a rival group. Therefore, a little more trust in their information. Good luck to you in work and health, I will not distract. wink
  14. iouris April 29 2020 13: 07 New
    • 2
    • 4
    -2
    This means that the losses during the Vietnam War were not high. Every year in the United States more people died in car accidents than during all the years of that war. By the way, something about 40 thousand people per year died in car accidents in the USSR, and about 10 thousand were lost in Afghanistan. These losses were perceived differently. Many are afraid to fly airplanes, but on the roads annually dies up to 25 ... 30 thousand (officially).
    Coronavirus loss statistics now cannot be. More or less objective data will appear only next year (if they appear).
  15. Andobor April 29 2020 13: 23 New
    • 2
    • 3
    -1
    Yes, the Americans drank money for medicine, that’s how they die like flies,
    - Americans have no equal in terms of cutting money.
    And what's going on in the military commissar? - while only individual icons pop up.
  16. Maxwrx April 29 2020 13: 41 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    There are statistics on Italy. That mortality increased 5 times compared to last year. So I think the real mortality rate is even higher all over the world. In Spain, they want to check out 30000 people in all provinces. They expect 5 to 15% to get sick / sick.
  17. Kostadinov April 29 2020 13: 49 New
    • 1
    • 1
    0
    Very stupid and manipulative comparison.
    Young and fighting people died in Korea and Vietnam, most of which are the best professionals. In addition, other tens of thousands remained disabled. For the army, this is a heavy loss.
    From the virus, old people die by 90%, and so are seriously ill with other diseases. In a war, their loss, sadly, facilitates the economy and the conduct of the war.
  18. Kostadinov April 29 2020 13: 58 New
    • 2
    • 0
    +2
    Quote: Roman123567
    About 7 thousand people die every day in the USA without any cove ..
    It would be interesting to see exactly the general statistics .. whether it increased by these 10% in 2020, or, on the principle: it doesn’t matter what they die from - the main thing is how to count ..

    Apparently the main thing is how to count. I don’t know about the USA, but in Bulgaria the overall mortality rate fell, in March-April, compared with last year. 99% of those who died with severity, cardiac, oncological and other diseases and an average age of 70 years. No autopsy is done to determine the causes of death all over the world and for the most part do not establish the presence of the virus.
  19. bk316 April 29 2020 14: 01 New
    • 10
    • 4
    +6
    Mathematics, gentlemen, comrades, exact science, unlike political science and other boltology.
    Look at my comments more than a month ago, which here zealously minus.

    Million sick in the USA 50 thousand dead In the USA
    100000 cases in the Russian Federation.
    It was not an optimistic or pessimistic scenario - it was a guaranteed scenario.
    But as soon as the people didn’t call me both a doctor and a provocateur and even ho khlom laughing
    Will we remember their nicknames?


    It's amazing that the same people wrote that the crown is a fake, and now that in the Russian Federation literally mountains of corpses are hidden. (Well, thousands are quite a mountain) Again, write nicknames?
    I can reassure any statistically significant subscript is easily detected by appropriate methods. By the way, in the elections too laughing

    Who cares, I can give another highly probable forecast. True, this is no longer relevant, opinions have consolidated. Well, the opinions of mathematicians and not talkers ..... laughing
    1. GTYCBJYTH2021 April 29 2020 14: 31 New
      • 0
      • 5
      -5
      Exact science is mathematics ....... but if you collect nine (9) pregnant women, the child will not be born in a month ..... or right now .....
    2. Tank hard April 29 2020 20: 20 New
      • 0
      • 0
      0
      Quote: bk316
      But as soon as the people didn’t call me both a doctor and a provocateur and even ho khlom
      Will we remember their nicknames?

      One must remember such "experts." hi
  20. Kostadinov April 29 2020 14: 04 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Quote: smart fellow
    If you do not know something, this does not mean that it is not.

    150 thousand assessment by the DPRK.

    The UN troops in Korea lost only at least 230 thousand killed, but most of them were Korean. Interventions from other countries, including the United States, lost approximately 50 dead.
    In addition, approximately 100 thousand of each side were captured.
    1. iouris April 29 2020 14: 10 New
      • 0
      • 0
      0
      I think that China regarded its losses as quite acceptable. If 10 million Chinese were captured, then the UN (USA) would lose the war.
  21. Kostadinov April 29 2020 14: 09 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Quote: MaxWRX
    There are statistics on Italy. That mortality increased 5 times compared to last year. So I think the real mortality rate is even higher all over the world. In Spain, they want to check out 30000 people in all provinces. They expect 5 to 15% to get sick / sick.

    No and can not beat such statistics. This is elementary arithmetic. In Italy, mortality before the epidemic hit more than 50 thousand per month and 600 thousand per year. Now claim that about 25 thousand died from the epidemic. There is no statistics that there is at least a minimal decrease in mortality in the current year, but even if all 25 thousand deaths increase it is not possible to increase 5 times.
  22. Kostadinov April 29 2020 14: 18 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Quote: Red Dragon
    Because this cannot be. Are sick in all border countries with the DPRK, but not a single person in the DPRK? Well this is not even funny. Unless, in DPRK, all the Duncans are MacLeods. Well, or just no one bother to test someone. Who died, that ARVI. wink

    And who and where is sick you have information. The DPRK has no ties with South Korea. In the border provinces of China with the DPRK, there are a total of 300 cases recorded today, and only three have died. When a kid came to the DPRK, they closed the border with China from mid-January and all those who had contact with the Chinese or other foreigners were put under quarantine for 31 days after December 40.
    Mass death can never be a creak.
    1. Red Dragon April 29 2020 19: 29 New
      • 0
      • 0
      0
      I agree with you that mass death cannot be hidden. But no one talks about the mass. There are neighbors in South Korea somewhere around 10 thousand infected and about 200 deaths. I am writing from memory, the number may not be exact, but the order is somewhere like this. 200 plus minus deaths in 100 days, this is 2 deaths per day. Is it massive death? In my opinion, there is no difficulty in hiding, or rather indicating, another cause of death in a closed country, is it not? Pneumonia and pneumonia, but it’s tricky or not, who will say it without analysis? Therefore, I do not believe that there is not a single case of the disease. Why quarantine schools if you have no cases and borders are closed? The border with China seems to have been closed not in the middle, but on January 22, and the first case discovered in the States was already January 21. But you still need to get to the States. A doctor in Wuhan who died from a coronavirus warned of him on December 30, 2019. So at least a month for the virus to enter North Korea. This is if quarantine is considered ideal, and this is usually not found anywhere, especially among states that have joint borders. Something like that, Regards Red Dragon.
  23. demo April 29 2020 14: 22 New
    • 0
    • 1
    -1
    Losses in Vietnam are young healthy men.
    Losses from the virus - you need to look at the statistics.
    But according to reports, the largest number among patients, the weakened and the elderly.
    Viruses are probably the worst enemy of mankind.
    But without it in any way.
    The immune system should be in good shape.
  24. GTYCBJYTH2021 April 29 2020 14: 24 New
    • 1
    • 6
    -5
    In Vietnam, the Americans fought FOR MONEY, benefits for the rest of their life ..... Our Afghans — but for the inter-debt housing provided by the USSR ..... permits to sanatoriums, services and treatment in hospitals — who knows, knows the difference between hospitals from city hospitals and clinics ....... And as for the number of deaths in America from the virus, in Russia no less, we must assume ......
    1. A. Privalov April 29 2020 16: 05 New
      • 4
      • 2
      +2
      Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
      In Vietnam, the Americans fought FOR MONEY, benefits in later life

      What kind of money and benefits are we talking about? During the Vietnam War, there was still mandatory the call. Ordinary guys fought at the age of 18. The US Armed Forces are fully equipped on a contract basis only since 1973.
  25. ApJlekuHo April 29 2020 14: 25 New
    • 0
    • 1
    -1
    when there are no “whites” left, the turn will reach half-breeds ..
  26. ApJlekuHo April 29 2020 14: 26 New
    • 0
    • 1
    -1
    Under the guise is stripping.
  27. Kostadinov April 29 2020 15: 47 New
    • 0
    • 1
    -1
    Quote: iouris
    I think that China regarded its losses as quite acceptable. If 10 million Chinese were captured, then the UN (USA) would lose the war.

    According to its official statistics, China lost 140 thousand killed and dead for all reasons and less than 30 thousand prisoners during the war in Korea.
    The losses of the Korean People’s Army - 380 thousand killed and wounded (only the dead about 120 thousand) and 90 thousand prisoners
    The military losses of South Korea are 180 thousand killed, 80 thousand prisoners, the USA 36 thousand killed and other UN troops about 10 thousand more killed and all UN troops - 11 thousand prisoners.
  28. Rostislav April 29 2020 16: 38 New
    • 0
    • 3
    -3
    82 thousand 58 people died from coronavirus in the United States in 365 days, while the number of deaths in the Vietnam War, which lasted 9 years, amounted to 58 thousand 220 people. In this case, the coronavirus pandemic is still ongoing and the number of deaths may increase repeatedly.

    Another "ugly" information for the promotion of tantrums.
    Five times more people died in road accidents in the USA than in Vietnam, more than 40 thousand a year, and 4,5 million more are seriously injured.
  29. Keyser soze April 29 2020 17: 16 New
    • 1
    • 1
    0
    And here is the true state of things. CNN is just an ominous panicnyuz.


    The overall mortality rate does not stand out in statistics in any way. A comparison, we are all masters to do anyhow.
    1. Alex Justice April 29 2020 18: 16 New
      • 0
      • 1
      -1
      https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
  30. Vladimir April 30 2020 08: 43 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    And just a small protein molecule.
  31. Kostadinov April 30 2020 11: 04 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The remaining participants in the same wars lost millions.

    None of the rest of the participants in Korea and Vietnam lost millions of soldiers or partisans killed.
    South Korea lost 178 thousand in 1950-53 according to their official statistics.
    US in Korea - 36 thousand
    South Vietnamese army over 250 thousand.
    USA in Vietnam - 58 thousand.
    Korean people's army - 120 thousand
    Chinese volunteers in Korea - 140 thousand.
    The liberation front of Vietnam and the DRV army - 849 thousand for 1955-1975 (including 40% of those who died from the disease). In the fighting and for the period 1964-1974 approximately 440 thousand.
    No one lost a million in battles.
  32. Papapg 2 May 2020 08: 35 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    The most paradoxical is that the situation with the coronavirus will not teach anyone anything, the foreign policy of many of the powerful will remain unchanged. How many people must die in order to combine efforts in the method of protection, while no one knows, probably how it will reach half, then they will think, unfortunately.