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In Russia, the tender of the Russian Guard for the purchase of hand grenades RGN

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In Russia, the tender of the Russian Guard for the purchase of hand grenades RGN

Rosguard intends to purchase offensive anti-personnel fragmentation grenades. The tender for the procurement is available on the official website of the Unified Information System in the field of procurement (UIS).


According to the document, the Federal Service of the National Guard of the Russian Federation (Rosguard) placed a tender for the purchase of 57,5 thousand units "Product RGN, index 7G21", representing offensive anti-personnel fragmentation hand grenades of shock and remote action.

As explained, grenades are purchased under the state defense order, the cost of the planned supply of 166 706 569 rubles. Ammunition should be delivered by November 1, 2020 to one of the units of the Russian Guard, stationed in Balashikha (Moscow Region).

The publication of the terms of this tender was seriously alarmed by all kinds of Russian liberal media, which wondered why the Rosguard employees needed so many grenades. According to liberals, Rosgvardia’s employees are only involved in patrolling city streets and have never taken part in hostilities, so they have nothing to buy offensive grenades for.

Employees of the Russian Guard, created on April 5, 2016, did not participate in the hostilities, serving in the department. At the same time, according to data from open sources, the Russian Guard did not participate in any military international conflicts

- writes one of their publications.

All kinds of bloggers were excited, trying on this news earn as many likes as possible. Already appeared materials with headlines like: "Putin is preparing to fight his people, buying grenades for the Russian Guard."

No official comments on this tender have been received to date, and the Rosguard will not comment on the planned purchase of ammunition as part of a defense order. And there are still many places where hand grenades can and should be used, especially in the Caucasus, where fighters of the Russian Guard have repeatedly fought against all kinds of terrorists and militants of all stripes.

Recall that the RGN grenade (GRAU index - 7G21) is designed to defeat manpower in an offensive battle. The radius of damage by grenade fragments is 15 m, the radius of a possible damage is 35 m.
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 29 2020 09: 44 New
    -32
    Interesting news.
    Grenades to fighters of the Russian guard ...
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 29 2020 09: 50 New
      32
      and what's interesting about that? when they carry out operations in the Caucasus, for example, do they need to throw stones at your place?)
      1. Hermit21
        Hermit21 April 29 2020 09: 57 New
        11
        Do not bother people with dashes ... Oh, that is, work
        1. evgenii67
          evgenii67 April 29 2020 10: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: Hermit21
          Do not bother people with dashes ... Oh, that is, work

          Yes, let them buy, if necessary, but I have a question, why 57,5 thousand tons of grenades in one piece ??? "The supply of ammunition should be carried out before November 1, 2020 in one of the units of the Russian Guard, stationed in Balashikha (Moscow region)."
          maybe this part as a transshipment base will be scattered further away from it in other parts ?! They went completely crazy with these tenders, and when the time comes to buy Armat and Su-57, will you also work under the 44th law, placing it on a tender so that everyone can see?
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky April 29 2020 10: 30 New
            15
            Quote: evgenii67
            Yes, let them buy, if necessary, but I have a question, why 57,5 thousand tons of grenades in one piece ??? "The supply of ammunition should be carried out before November 1, 2020 in one of the units of the Russian Guard, stationed in Balashikha (Moscow region)."

            This is an interdepartmental concern of how to ensure delivery to individual parts and subdivisions, but not the concern of the manufacturer, to send out grenades in small batches throughout Russia.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft April 29 2020 10: 45 New
              0
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              This is an interdepartmental concern of how to ensure delivery to individual parts and subdivisions, but not the concern of the manufacturer, to send out grenades in small batches throughout Russia.

              Moreover, for example, why should Japanese spies, our liberals, and especially curious forum users (apparently not be able to sleep) know the final recipient ....
            2. evgenii67
              evgenii67 April 29 2020 11: 04 New
              +6
              Ltd!!! Send minus for the question!
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              This is an interdepartmental concern of how to ensure delivery to individual parts and subdivisions, but not the concern of the manufacturer, to send out grenades in small batches throughout Russia.
              ok, this figured out why 57,5 thousand go in one piece. But Nakoy conduct a tender, probably even through public procurement under 44FZ, so that everyone can see, it’s interesting that the technical specifications indicate the mass (no more), radius of destruction (no more), size of fragments (no more), etc.
              I mean, why not hold it closed so that only gunsmiths (manufacturers), power structures (buyers) know, and those who control (the prosecutor’s office or who is watching the security forces there), why is this all for all to see? The security officials want to voice their purchases, let them voice it.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky April 29 2020 11: 39 New
                +5
                Quote: evgenii67
                I mean, why not hold it closed so that only gunsmiths (manufacturers), power structures (buyers) know, and those who control (the prosecutor’s office or who is watching the security forces there), why is this all for all to see?

                In principle, true. hi
            3. your1970
              your1970 April 29 2020 13: 37 New
              +8
              Functions of the Russian Guard
              "- Protection of public facilities and critical cargo;"

              in the 90s there was a reserve of 10 grenades for each soldier engaged in this in a small arms - for example, this included nuclear power reactors...
              I hope no one needs to explain to anyone - that reactors must be protected at ANY cost ???
              So it's simple as possible refreshment stocks - not purchase at all more
            4. Rzzz
              Rzzz April 30 2020 23: 25 New
              +3
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              to send out grenades in small batches and throughout Russia.

              Through the post offices of Russia, but cho.
              At least we find out what kind of cattle in the mail parcel with aliexpress kicked legs.
          2. Serg koma
            Serg koma April 29 2020 11: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: evgenii67
            but I have a question, why 57,5 thousand pomegranates in one piece ???

            But is it said that ALL grenades are sent to the combat unit?
            For example -
            Squad (integrated storage of missiles, ammunition, explosive materials, artillery ammunition,) Military Unit № 58661
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 April 29 2020 20: 10 New
              -1
              Quote: Serg Koma
              Quote: evgenii67
              but I have a question, why 57,5 thousand pomegranates in one piece ???

              But is it said that ALL grenades are sent to the combat unit?
              For example -
              Squad (integrated storage of missiles, ammunition, explosive materials, artillery ammunition,) Military Unit № 58661

              In my opinion, the 5-digit numbers refer only to the Moscow Region and the FSB, but not to Putin's "guardsmen" in any way. Bad example.
              1. Serg koma
                Serg koma April 29 2020 20: 33 New
                +2
                Quote: Doliva63
                Bad example.

                An example is that the WAREHOUSE is the “military unit”, that in the Navy, that in the FSB, that in the VNG. And not
                Quote: Doliva63
                Putin's "guards".

                a "Troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation"
                So the remark is incorrect in essence.
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 April 29 2020 21: 13 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Serg Koma
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Bad example.

                  An example is that the WAREHOUSE is the “military unit”, that in the Navy, that in the FSB, that in the VNG. And not
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Putin's "guards".

                  a "Troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation"
                  So the remark is incorrect in essence.

                  No, everything is correct. After all, Putin’s “guardsmen” may not have everything like in the army, we don’t know that.
          3. Hermit21
            Hermit21 April 29 2020 12: 20 New
            +5
            Then, that military grenades are thrown at least once in preparation, used in real operations somewhere in the North Caucasus, replenish supplies. In fact, there is nothing surprising in such quantity. I am sure that this is far from the first such tender. It’s just that the labyrinth journalism needs to now suck the Insation out of the finger (well, if out of the finger) and form a certain informational background. Moreover, some are already trying
          4. Ded_Mazay
            Ded_Mazay April 29 2020 12: 51 New
            0
            Then, what is the place of performance of obligations by the supplier. Questions?
          5. missuris
            missuris April 29 2020 13: 14 New
            0
            Well, yes, what's the problem?
            let them post it to the tender so that everyone can see, but what's the point of secreting? even if by some miracle the uralvagonzavod makes 1000 valves no one scratches it, but you can’t hide 50000)
          6. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 29 2020 16: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: evgenii67
            Yes, let them buy, if necessary, but I have a question, why 57,5 thousand tons of grenades in one piece ???

            Because he buys one who has the right to do so. I don’t know who the Rosguard performs there.

            Quote: evgenii67
            They went completely crazy with these tenders, and when the time comes to buy Armat and Su-57, will you also work under the 44th law, placing it on a tender so that everyone can see?

            Recently there was news, now it will be classified information
          7. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA April 29 2020 17: 23 New
            +2
            Quote: evgenii67
            Yes, let them buy, if necessary, but I have a question, why 57,5 thousand tons of grenades in one piece ??? "The supply of ammunition should be carried out before November 1, 2020 in one of the units of the Russian Guard, stationed in Balashikha (Moscow region)."

            Most likely because Balashikha is the Separate Order of Zhukov, Lenin and the October Revolution, the Red Banner operational division named after F.E. Dzerzhinsky of the National Guard of the Russian Federation (ODON). smile
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 April 29 2020 20: 34 New
              0
              Quote: Alexey RA
              Quote: evgenii67
              Yes, let them buy, if necessary, but I have a question, why 57,5 thousand tons of grenades in one piece ??? "The supply of ammunition should be carried out before November 1, 2020 in one of the units of the Russian Guard, stationed in Balashikha (Moscow region)."

              Most likely because Balashikha is the Separate Order of Zhukov, Lenin and the October Revolution, the Red Banner operational division named after F.E. Dzerzhinsky of the National Guard of the Russian Federation (ODON). smile

              Is she not OMSDON now? I don’t see the word “motorized rifle” in the title. And in general, wildly for the military - a separate division. Well, the region is a separate team. laughing
              1. koramax81
                koramax81 3 May 2020 19: 40 New
                0
                "And in general, wildly for the military - a separate division"
                This division is directly subordinate to the CA of the Russian Guard, the remaining divisions are part of the districts. Therefore, it is separate
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 4 May 2020 20: 27 New
                  0
                  Quote: koramax81
                  "And in general, wildly for the military - a separate division"
                  This division is directly subordinate to the CA of the Russian Guard, the remaining divisions are part of the districts. Therefore, it is separate

                  It was necessary to call the All-Russian, since the district is not included laughing
          8. Marconi41
            Marconi41 April 29 2020 22: 41 New
            0
            Quote: evgenii67
            why 57,5 thousand pomegranates in one piece

            General purchases are not conducted at all at once. It is just this part that deals with them, and only then distribution is carried out.
      2. loki565
        loki565 April 29 2020 10: 07 New
        0
        That's right, these grenades were designed for use in the highlands.
        1. DEDPIHTO
          DEDPIHTO April 29 2020 11: 22 New
          -1
          Quote: loki565
          That's right, these grenades were designed for use in the highlands.
          Barricades are also mountains, only small .. winked And Balashikha is not at all the Caucasus ... wink
        2. Elephant
          Elephant April 29 2020 12: 24 New
          0
          Is some mechanism too big compared to the warhead !?
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 29 2020 10: 22 New
        0
        Quote: carstorm 11
        need to throw stones

        What kind of stones ???
        They are children.
        To persuade, only to persuade.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 April 29 2020 20: 37 New
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Quote: carstorm 11
          need to throw stones

          What kind of stones ???
          They are children.
          To persuade, only to persuade.

          Only this should not be Putin’s BB / “guards”, but the Ministry of Internal Affairs / FSB before grenades are needed.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 29 2020 21: 32 New
            0
            Quote: Doliva63
            and the Ministry of Internal Affairs / FSB

            Give them back to the Ministry of Internal Affairs as poor relatives?
            What's the point?
      4. lopuhan2006
        lopuhan2006 April 29 2020 10: 51 New
        -10
        Pieces of 100 may have been used, but here in the Moscow region thousands were needed ...... well, well.
        When the authorities begin to fear, then first of all the RFPs are raised by the law enforcement agencies and the bam! In the Moscow region, there will definitely be an increase in salaries to employees) Do not immediately dismiss any information without thinking, but you should not believe everything either!
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor April 29 2020 12: 34 New
          0
          Yes, unfortunately, they won’t use it against liberalism in any case, even rubber bullets do not really use it, the one that you can safely ride, banderlogs.
      5. SHURUM -BURUM
        SHURUM -BURUM April 29 2020 10: 58 New
        -6
        ... when they carry out operations in the Caucasus, for example, do they need to throw stones at you? ...
        There is a non-lethal weapon for this. What, ultrasound-free emitters in the world emitters, the pride of our electronic industry, do not work on billboards?
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r April 29 2020 11: 21 New
          0
          Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
          There is a non-lethal weapon for this. What, ultrasound-free emitters in the world emitters, the pride of our electronic industry, do not work on billboards?

          You tell the Khatabs, Basaevs and other bearded barmals about this. And it’s better to fight with the weapon you offer.
        2. missuris
          missuris April 29 2020 13: 18 New
          0
          you are likely to confuse the types of operations in those videos that I saw were shot from 40 mm grenade launchers with high-explosive ammunition
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    2. Ingenegr
      Ingenegr April 29 2020 10: 12 New
      15
      A lot of divisions of the Russian Guard are involved in:
      - ensuring the CTO regime in certain territories of the Russian Federation;
      - RPM in areas of possible location of illegal armed groups;
      - operations to detain and liquidate members of illegal armed groups;
      - operations to detain members of organized crime groups and armed criminals;
      - implementation of the safety and security measures in the territory of the SAR
      and much, much more.
      Dear, I am sure that in these cases the use of an Horn is not required?
      In addition, the cost of educational practice in the training of personnel of units should also be compensated.
      Based on this, the question should not sound like “why do they need grenades?”, But like “why only 57.5 thousand?”.
      I look, "brain bulkiness" affects a lot of minds, incapable of independently analyzing information flows.
    3. bondrostov
      bondrostov April 29 2020 10: 21 New
      -8
      This is, so to speak, the answer to the people who, along with the wise politician of the darkest, live a blogging wassat
      PS They will not help them ...
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 April 29 2020 18: 08 New
        +1
        Are you scared, sick? And what if the next time you’re not 8 people, they will be carefully entered into the lock-up, but they will just throw a present? laughing Stock up on diapers, wrestlers. wink
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz April 30 2020 23: 33 New
          -2
          Quote: g1v2
          and just throw a gift?

          Something tells me that if it comes to this, then you will be one of those who will not feel well.
          You still do not understand this, apparently, and thank God, if that remains.
    4. KCA
      KCA April 29 2020 10: 38 New
      +3
      VV is also the Russian Guard, can they walk with clappers, while guarding nuclear facilities? Not spelled by accident?
    5. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 29 2020 10: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Doccor18
      Interesting news.
      Grenades to fighters of the Russian guard ...

      Why don’t you finish? Continue about accelerating pensioners with grenades. negative
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 29 2020 10: 56 New
        +4
        Piramidon! And cars with shields and loopholes in it - is this also for mountains and defense of strategist mines?
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon April 29 2020 11: 01 New
          0
          Quote: NordUral
          And cars with shields and loopholes in it - is this also for mountains and defense of strategist mines?

          As one-sided, you imagine everything. If an armored car, then this is exclusively against retirees. Have you ever heard of counter-terrorism operations? They were mainly not conducted in the mountains. Internal troops have existed for centuries, even under the tsar-priest, and here, the "liberal public" was sharply excited about the Russian guard created on their basis.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral April 29 2020 11: 23 New
            +7
            Is this against the militants? Of course, not for crowding out the protesting, as I might think, liberal Stalinist.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon April 29 2020 12: 13 New
              +1
              Well, where is the dispersal of senior citizens? Mass events were always very attractive for various kinds of provocateurs - instigators of riots. And intelligence agencies were ALWAYS obligated to prevent them. Do you suggest letting it go? Manezhnaya Square forgotten? I also know how to insert pictures. Here they are "peaceful pensioners"


              1. NordUral
                NordUral April 29 2020 12: 16 New
                +2
                They’re not afraid of Manezhnaya now, but of the People, Stepan. And not only pensioners. And at Manezhnaya, not all were provocateurs, but simply dissatisfied with the criminal activity of the authorities.
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon April 29 2020 12: 24 New
                  -3
                  Quote: NordUral
                  They’re not afraid of Manezhnaya now, but of the People

                  These are your personal conclusions, not confirmed by anything.
                  And on Manezhnaya, not all were provocateurs

                  Did I say that there were only provocateurs there? To agitate the crowd, a few are enough.
                  1. NordUral
                    NordUral April 29 2020 12: 29 New
                    +1
                    These are your personal conclusions, not confirmed by anything.
                    Like everything except the Laws of Nature.
                    Like yours. But this is my opinion and I expressed it.
                2. your1970
                  your1970 April 29 2020 13: 41 New
                  +2
                  Quote: NordUral
                  dissatisfied with the criminal activities of the authorities
                  - that’s why it was necessary to break old Lada-05 ????? its owner is a clear "billionaire / oligarch / bureaucrat" ...
                  1. NordUral
                    NordUral April 29 2020 15: 58 New
                    -1
                    sv1970! And you do not remember how Dimitrov Reichstag set fire to? Since then, these methods have been very advanced. And I have great suspicions, and not suspicions, but the belief that this Zhiguli was defeated by some "socially immature" employed by provocateurs from the government.
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                    2. Piramidon
                      Piramidon 1 May 2020 11: 38 New
                      +3
                      Quote: NordUral
                      sv1970! And you do not remember how Dimitrov Reichstag set fire to? Since then, these methods have been very advanced. And I have great suspicions, and not suspicions, but the belief that this Zhiguli was defeated by some "socially immature" employed by provocateurs from the government.

                      So you have confirmed that it is not possible to do without provocateurs at such gatherings, which means that the presence of security forces is necessary. And then you are drowning for the fact that the Russian Guard is only to spread rot for retirees. Have they “offended” you at least once, threw grenades at least, or at least hit them with a club?
                      1. NordUral
                        NordUral 1 May 2020 12: 30 New
                        -1
                        Stepan! I did not say that they are only dispersing the protesters. It is necessary to disperse, but not the unreasonable young growth, but those leaders who are being brought out for their own purposes. In such cases, when liberals like Lesha Navalny do this, this is a sacred affair.
                        But they are also used to disperse against injustices, and indiscriminately against whom.
                        In general, it’s mean to use the security forces against the people.
                        I think that most of these guys are good and honest guys, but there are others who can raise their hand to the elderly.
                        I was not personally affected by their outrage, which has taken place more than once. And because I do not go to the rally) until I go), I believe that it is more correct to express my position in the elections. What will happen next, life will show.
              2. Incvizitor
                Incvizitor April 29 2020 12: 37 New
                -7
                They are children, moreover obvious Stalinists, one might say saints, they should not be persecuted but to the government, but better to be presidents at once.
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral April 29 2020 15: 59 New
                  0
                  You have a logic problem, Incvizitor.
                  1. Incvizitor
                    Incvizitor April 29 2020 22: 26 New
                    +1
                    I’m joking here at all, typical corrupt liberals in the net mow down under anyone, just to sketch and in life that part of them that goes completely off-beat to go.
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral April 30 2020 09: 44 New
                      -1
                      Feel free to go to the nightingale, the very place for you.
              3. Rzzz
                Rzzz April 30 2020 23: 36 New
                0
                If in 1991 the authorities used such special means, then the yates would be torn off precisely by the representatives of today's authorities.
        2. tagil
          tagil April 29 2020 11: 06 New
          +3
          No. This is for the inadequate, who arrange their unauthorized "festivities" on squares and avenues, they also carry all kinds of nonsense into microphones and prevent other people from resting normally.
    6. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka April 29 2020 11: 22 New
      -4
      Quote: Doccor18
      Interesting news.
      Grenades to fighters of the Russian guard ...

      damn, sick of it, well, at least read something on the topic, at least the functions and tasks of the Russian Guard
    7. alexmach
      alexmach April 29 2020 11: 27 New
      +1
      The normal news is that there are footage in the network of neutralization by special forces of militants barricaded in a five-story building. A weight was knocked out of the roof by a window and a couple of grenades were thrown at it, different, including military ones.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 29 2020 12: 19 New
        -3
        special forces
        , alexmach! What does the Rosguard have to do with it. For her, such operations are a cover for the main purpose - the armed suppression of the people who rebelled against the criminal actions of the authorities.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach April 29 2020 13: 29 New
          -1
          alexmach! What does Rosguard have to do with it

          What do you mean? All the Sobry and other militia special forces went there. As I understand it now everything is there. Not a single riot police, but all the Sobri, Vohry, and a whole bunch of other internal troops.
          For her, such operations are a cover for the main purpose - the armed suppression of the people who rebelled against the criminal actions of the authorities.

          I’m not quite catching it. Are you kidding or serious.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral April 29 2020 16: 02 New
            -2
            What a joke, seriously.
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA April 29 2020 17: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: NordUral
          , alexmach! What does the Rosguard have to do with it.

          Because the WG is first of all an explosive, riot police and a special forces unit. And their tasks from changing the sign did not change.
          Quote: NordUral
          For her, such operations are a cover for the main purpose - the armed suppression of the people who rebelled against the criminal actions of the authorities.

          So VV have been doing this all their lives - since the days of the USSR and even the Empire. But for some reason, it started to burn, when instead of the sign of the Ministry of Internal Affairs a sign “RG” appeared over the same parts. smile
    8. svp67
      svp67 April 29 2020 12: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: Doccor18
      Interesting news.
      Grenades to fighters of the Russian guard ...

      Another thing is interesting, but why are arms supplied through a tender carried out, in our country, that there are many private producers of such grenades?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 29 2020 17: 38 New
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Another thing is interesting, but why are arms supplied through a tender carried out, in our country, that there are many private producers of such grenades?

        But because the federal laws.
        At the time, state procurements posted a tender for the modernization of the Perimeter command missile. smile And about the new modifications of the T-72B3, the first reliable information came from there.
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 29 2020 18: 07 New
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          But because the federal laws.

          Well, it says that there should be several suppliers and the one who offers the lowest price wins ... and what does it look like in this case?
          Quote: Alexey RA
          And about the new modifications of the T-72B3, the first reliable information came from there.

          But here it is still possible to explain theoretically in this tender, apart from UVZ, any of the tank repair plants could enter, but the production of grenades?
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA April 29 2020 18: 25 New
            0
            Quote: svp67
            But here it is still possible to explain theoretically in this tender, apart from UVZ, any of the tank repair plants could enter, but the production of grenades?

            And who could enter the command rocket tender? wink
            And UVZ has no competitors - only the manufacturer can carry out the modernization of the T-72B in B3. We have two tank factories, and both in UVZ.
            1. svp67
              svp67 1 May 2020 18: 12 New
              0
              Quote: Alexey RA
              And UVZ has no competitors - only the manufacturer can carry out the modernization of the T-72B in B3. We have two tank factories, and both in UVZ.

              Now the times are of course different, but in Soviet times and the first years after the collapse of the USSR, we got T-55M and T62M tanks from tank repair plants in Leningrad, Kiev and Ussuriysk, it was there that these tanks underwent modernization to versions "M", "MV", " MK "and" MV-1 "
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    10. zenion
      zenion April 30 2020 14: 38 New
      0
      I was also interested. Were the German SA units armed with hand grenades, or only cannons, and mortars?
  2. Vasily Ponomarev
    Vasily Ponomarev April 29 2020 09: 51 New
    +6
    cups began to be made with increased armor resistance
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 29 2020 09: 53 New
    +1
    And what, the Russian Guard is not involved in putting things in order in places where grenades are needed and can be used? Do not catch terrorists? Grenades Offensive.
    1. Bshkaus
      Bshkaus April 29 2020 10: 14 New
      +2
      And what, the Russian Guard is not involved in putting things in order in places where grenades are needed and can be used? Do not catch terrorists? Grenades Offensive

      Is this not the profile of Alpha and Pennant, which are imprisoned for these tasks?
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 29 2020 10: 30 New
        -2
        Quote: Bshkaus
        Is this not the profile of Alpha and Pennant, which are imprisoned for these tasks?

        Pennant, as far as I remember, is generally used only outside the country.
        As for the "Alpha" - a good idea.
        Do you propose increasing the number of Alpha to the size of the Russian Guard?
        1. Bshkaus
          Bshkaus April 29 2020 10: 35 New
          +2
          Do you propose increasing the number of Alpha to the size of the Russian Guard?

          No, I suggest that everyone should engage in their own narrow specialization, which is trained.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 29 2020 10: 46 New
            0
            Quote: Bshkaus
            No, I suggest that everyone should engage in their own narrow specialization, which is trained.

            Filling question: Have you ever seen a map of Russia in your life?
            How much time do fighters in Moscow, Essentuki or the Crimea need to advance to release the hostages in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky?

            Right, too long.
            So a wide network of Alpha branches in the regions is needed. Which will be the size of no less than a third of Rosguard.

            And you know what's the funniest thing?
            You will be among the first to be hysterical about "they are going to fight the other"
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon April 29 2020 11: 09 New
              0
              Quote: Spade
              You will be among the first to be hysterical about "they are going to fight the other"

              When some “barmalei” will take his family and himself hostage, he will shout first - “Putin, save, come to the guard!”
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 April 29 2020 21: 06 New
              0
              Quote: Spade
              Quote: Bshkaus
              No, I suggest that everyone should engage in their own narrow specialization, which is trained.

              Filling question: Have you ever seen a map of Russia in your life?
              How much time do fighters in Moscow, Essentuki or the Crimea need to advance to release the hostages in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky?

              Right, too long.
              So a wide network of Alpha branches in the regions is needed. Which will be the size of no less than a third of Rosguard.

              And you know what's the funniest thing?
              You will be among the first to be hysterical about "they are going to fight the other"

              Alpha is in every area where there is UFSB. Compare with the size of the Russian Guard?
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 29 2020 21: 31 New
                0
                Quote: Doliva63
                Alpha is in every area

                No. Moscow, Essentuki. Crimea.
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 April 29 2020 21: 43 New
                  0
                  Quote: Spade
                  Quote: Doliva63
                  Alpha is in every area

                  No. Moscow, Essentuki. Crimea.

                  You are joking? My friend’s daughter’s husband is an Alfovets, major, senior opera. Jobburg. The former State Duma deputy, Barinov, a graduate of Novosib, was deputy prime minister of Alfa right there. Earlier my classmate resigned from this position, the surname does not play a role. When in the 91st they tried to hijack a plane from Borzya to China, officers of department A flew in from Chita - this was how their commander introduced himself, at least.
          2. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft April 29 2020 10: 53 New
            +2
            Quote: Bshkaus
            Do you propose increasing the number of Alpha to the size of the Russian Guard?

            No, I suggest that everyone should engage in their own narrow specialization, which is trained.

            Before writing something like this, read the legislation of the Russian Federation governing the tasks of the ROSGVARDI, I hope to master, there are not many ....
            Article 2 of the Federal Law dated 03.07.2016 N 226-ФЗ (as amended on 18.03.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX) "On the troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation"
            including and participation in the fight against terrorism and extremism
            http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_200506/b880dc2bdbb1dae26cc88e603c1f1c284c84b03c/
            1. NordUral
              NordUral April 29 2020 12: 22 New
              0
              and participation in the fight against terrorism and extremism

              What a trifle after adoption of amendments to the law on police. Two fingers on the asphalt.
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft April 29 2020 12: 28 New
                -4
                Quote: NordUral
                and participation in the fight against terrorism and extremism

                What a trifle after adoption of amendments to the law on police. Two fingers on the asphalt.

                Why was it necessary to create a ROSGUARD, then to amend the Law "On Police", I think you have a persecution mania .....
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral April 29 2020 12: 34 New
                  +1
                  No, I have well-developed logical thinking. And THESE, that above is a sensitive fifth point, Lara Croft.
                  1. Alexey RA
                    Alexey RA April 29 2020 17: 46 New
                    +3
                    Quote: NordUral
                    No, I have well-developed logical thinking.

                    Yep ...
                    While VV, OMON and SOBR were in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and drove people to Bolotnaya - everything is fine, everything is fine.
                    It was worth renaming the same explosives in the WG and adding the same OMON and SOBR to them, without changing anything in the OSH and tasks - everything is gone chef, bloody power is ready to crush popular performances!!!

                    Well, what's the difference between the explosives in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the same explosives under the guise of the WG?
                    1. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 April 29 2020 17: 54 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      Well, what's the difference between the explosives in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the same explosives under the guise of the WG?

                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      While VV, OMON and SOBR were in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and drove people to Bolotnaya - everything is fine, everything is fine.

                      Having received the cradles at an unauthorized rally, they together shouted: Cops KOZLY !!! And they met with understanding among a certain part of the population. Let them shout the same thing now: Guard ....! And rake in addition wassat
          3. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA April 29 2020 17: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: Bshkaus
            No, I suggest that everyone should engage in their own narrow specialization, which is trained.

            Do you know that those involved in the aforementioned OMON, SOBR, and the Central Internal Affairs Directorate of Internal Affairs were transferred to the Russian Guard? As well as parts and formations of explosives, which were widely used and are used in the North Caucasus in the fight against terrorism. In those parts, even mortar batteries are deployed when combing the terrain.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral April 29 2020 17: 58 New
              -2
              VV, I think no one is being persecuted, except for convicts, the rest were imprisoned for terrorists, and not for the people. I generally do not want anyone to drive me. I do nothing criminal, unlike those in power and around it.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky April 29 2020 18: 51 New
                +3
                Quote: NordUral
                VV, I think they’re not chasing anyone except convicts,

                VV for the prisoners for a quarter of a century have no relation since This is the kitchen of the Federal Penitentiary Service of the Ministry of Justice of Russia.
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral April 29 2020 19: 20 New
                  -2
                  Blame, did not know. And thank God!
              2. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA April 29 2020 18: 53 New
                0
                Quote: NordUral
                VV, I think they’re not chasing anyone except convicts

                WHO in the UK "in large volumes" (such as combing, cordoning and other mass events) are engaged in Vova. Because in order to use the army, an emergency mode is needed (without which they cannot even bearded with weapons before they open fire), and the faces have too little power, so they work "precisely and targetedly."
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral April 29 2020 19: 21 New
                  -1
                  Thanks for the information!
        2. Izotovp
          Izotovp April 29 2020 10: 40 New
          +2
          Pennant is when they were in another department.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 29 2020 10: 49 New
            0
            Quote: Izotovp
            Pennant is when they were in another department.

            The Germans are convinced otherwise laughing
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 29 2020 12: 08 New
      +3
      Namesake! But still there are defensive.
    3. zenion
      zenion April 30 2020 14: 40 New
      -2
      Grenades for the Russian Guard are defensive. If the people surround him, he blows up a grenade in order not to be captured and inflict the most damage on the attackers.
  4. veritas
    veritas April 29 2020 09: 53 New
    -9
    Grenades for the Rosguard - this is an interesting turn. What is expected that after self-isolation the discontented population will go to demolish the power?
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich April 29 2020 10: 01 New
      -2
      The overwhelming majority of those who are dissatisfied can only scribble dissatisfied comments, and they will never go anywhere, since the gut is thin and generally reluctant, let someone else, and then they make another angry comment about it.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 29 2020 12: 09 New
        +3
        Like most defenders of thieves.
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich April 29 2020 12: 33 New
          -4
          And what did you do to counter this thieves' power?
          1. NordUral
            NordUral April 29 2020 12: 43 New
            +1
            I vote against her, Flavius ​​Vespasianovich! And there will be an uprising, so I will be on the side of the rebellious people, no matter how I would like a peaceful transition of power to the people. Let's see, maybe everything will happen peacefully.
            I would not take away the stolen goods, but would release all the thieves' trash and their attendants to the West so dear to them.
            Then, I hope, there will be no blood. And they don’t want to, it’s their choice.
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich April 29 2020 12: 47 New
              -2
              I would not take away the stolen goods, but would release all the thieves' trash and their attendants to the West so dear to them.

              I definitely agree with this thesis. I am also for the nationalization of all the major mining and processing enterprises.
              But about the uprising ... Where is the guarantee that all kinds of fishing enthusiasts in troubled waters will not be in power again? Indeed, this is constantly happening.
              1. NordUral
                NordUral April 29 2020 12: 52 New
                +4
                So again twenty five! I affirm that everyone needs to vote, and you are talking about uprisings, Flavius ​​Vespasianovich!
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich April 29 2020 12: 56 New
                  -1
                  But there will be an uprising, so I will be on the side of the rebellious people,

                  Your quote.
                  I always go to the polls.
                  1. NordUral
                    NordUral April 29 2020 13: 03 New
                    +1
                    Your quote.
                    I always go to the polls.
                    This is not a quote, but your invention.
                    I go to the polls for only a few years, before that I ignored them as a protest.
                    I realized that I was wrong. And now I will not miss a single one.
                    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                      Sidor Amenpodestovich April 29 2020 13: 06 New
                      0
                      Quote: NordUral
                      But there will be a rebellion, so I will be on the side of the rebellious people

                      You wrote this in your comment.
                      And "I always go to the polls" is my remark.
                      1. NordUral
                        NordUral April 29 2020 13: 10 New
                        +2
                        So I am not calling for an uprising, but talking about which side I will be on.
                        And I go to the polls - I won’t even guess who you are voting for.
                      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Sidor Amenpodestovich April 29 2020 13: 14 New
                        -1
                        The system is imperfect. But this is better than none at all. All satisfied perfection is unattainable, and there will always be dissatisfied.
                      3. NordUral
                        NordUral April 29 2020 13: 17 New
                        0
                        The system is imperfect. But this is better than none at all.

                        So with these nothing will be, not long remains.
                        And the worse is another, imperfect, for example, socialism?
                      4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                        Sidor Amenpodestovich April 29 2020 13: 25 New
                        -2
                        The idea is wonderful, but theory is always the opposite of practice. Everyone has different needs, and different understanding of the possibilities of their satisfaction.
                      5. NordUral
                        NordUral April 29 2020 16: 04 New
                        0
                        Everything is relative. And we have something to compare and understand what is best for the people and the country, and not 1% of geeks from the people.
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 April 29 2020 10: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: veritas
    discontented population

    And again, "freshman" with a plow. laughing
  • Bshkaus
    Bshkaus April 29 2020 10: 49 New
    +3
    Grenades for the Rosguard - this is an interesting turn. What is expected that after self-isolation the discontented population will go to demolish the power?

    I am very sorry for the large number of minuses under your comment. This is called "cognitive dissonance": For a month of self-isolation and universal "dynamo" starting with taxes on bank accounts of 1 ml. rub. until there is a lack of financial support for the population and a refusal to return tickets for up to 2 years, people begin to suspect something. This is already expressed in the angry comments under yesterday’s article on the speech of “Himself,” but when it comes to the army and armaments, the people continue, from old memory, to violently defend these structures in a fit of patriotism.
    I advise you to be patient: another month or two of such jokes with support during self-isolation, or a year or two of such oil prices and the minusers will close the relationship between the "armed national guard" and "street riots" (((
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 29 2020 12: 38 New
      -4
      Quote: Bshkaus
      but when it comes to the army and armaments, the people continue, according to old memory, to violently defend these structures in a fit of patriotism.
      I advise you to be patient: another month or two of such jokes with support during self-isolation, or a year or two of such oil prices and the minusers will close the relationship between the "armed national guard" and "street riots" (((

      And everything fell into place ...
      Propagandist...
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor April 29 2020 12: 40 New
    -2
    Fortunately, there are enough units of venomous sick thugs for them.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets April 29 2020 09: 57 New
    +6
    Interestingly, will the police buy the same grenades?
    1. bondrostov
      bondrostov April 29 2020 10: 28 New
      0
      Ty .. they will buy flamethrowers wassat
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft April 29 2020 11: 01 New
      -5
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Interestingly, will the police buy the same grenades?

      What for? Read at your leisure Article 2 of the Federal Law "On Police" dated 07.02.2011 N 3-FZ (latest edition) and discuss them (grenades) need with other liberals ...
      http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_110165/97380e31f79bdb68b09cfa3f9a7b33beab6bfac5/
      1. bondrostov
        bondrostov April 29 2020 11: 28 New
        +2
        And you girl do not comb all liberals. They are afraid of the people here and arm.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft April 29 2020 11: 35 New
          -2
          Quote: bondrostov
          do not comb all liberals.

          There are none, only former Komsomol members who later became liberals, among our liberals (as well as oligarchs) the vast majority of Komsomol members .... however, this is not only with us, the same former Komsomol members in Ukraine banned the Communist Party of Ukraine, and its former leader does not pull on Luis Corvalan ...
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets April 29 2020 13: 48 New
            0
            Quote: Lara Croft
            There are none, only former Komsomol members who later became liberals, among our liberals (as well as oligarchs) the vast majority of Komsomol members .... however, this is not only with us, the same former Komsomol members in Ukraine banned the Communist Party of Ukraine, and its former leader does not pull on Luis Corvalan ...

            We all who were born, studied under the USSR were first October, then pioneers, then Komsomol members. You do not need to equal everyone under one comb. As for the liberals, as you deigned to put it, here: https://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/01/2014/570416189a794761c0ce5bf4 (the first link in Google at the request of Putin is liberal), our authorities are already carrying out liberal transformations more than thirty years.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft April 29 2020 14: 04 New
              0
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              We all who were born, studied under the USSR were first October, then pioneers, then Komsomol members.

              The habit of the Communists to answer for the whole people, especially about then Komsomol members
              The peak number of Komsomol ranks fell in 1984 - 42 million. In the late 80s, the outflow from the Union began in the country: 1989 - 35,5 million people, 1991 - 26 million

              https://tass.ru/arhiv/712002
              Accordingly, in the period from 1984 to 1991, almost half of its members left the Komsomol ....
              The XXPth Extraordinary Congress of the Komsomol, held in September 1991, announced the cessation of the organization, its successor in October was the Russian Youth Union.

              That is, until the collapse of the USSR. And even earlier, your former members of the same party with laughter and hooting excluded from the Constitution of the USSR the dominant role of the CPSU .....

              There is nothing for me to talk about with you .... Your "noodle on ears" is no longer perceived by anyone ...
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets April 29 2020 14: 25 New
                +3
                Quote: Lara Croft
                There is nothing for me to talk about with you .... Your "noodle on ears" is no longer perceived by anyone ...

                Dear Lara Croft, I bring to your attention that in the second grade of elementary school, all students were accepted in October, I could be mistaken (it was long ago), in the fourth grade all but the notorious two-year-olds (they were accepted later) were accepted as pioneers, and in the eighth grade (some in the ninth or vocational school, or technical school) EVERYONE (from the word at all) was accepted into the Komsomol. So it was, at least until 1985 (do not believe it - ask your parents). Moreover, being a Komsomol member, I see nothing shameful in this. If you think that I, or ordinary Komsomol members like me, held the "XXIth Extraordinary Congress of the Komsomol ... ... and with laughter and hooting excluded from the Constitution of the USSR the dominant role of the CPSU .....", then you are mistaken.
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft April 29 2020 14: 42 New
                  0
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  and in the eighth grade (some in the ninth or vocational school, or technical school) ALL (from the word at all) were admitted to the Komsomol. So it was, at least until 1985 (do not believe it - ask your parents).

                  You want to say that the population of the USSR in 1984 (the peak of the Komsomol) was - 42 million?
                  I myself was not born in the 90s, he said
                  Your "noodles on the ears" is no longer perceived by anyone ...

                  Already in the 86th, bull calves extinguished the representative of KID, and in the 88th, practically no one had ties around his neck at school ...
                  Not everyone was accepted into the Komsomol, as you say in a row, but after the recommendation of members of the Komsomol cell for them ....
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets April 29 2020 14: 55 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    Already in the 86th, bull calves extinguished the representative of KID, and in the 88th, practically no one had ties around his neck at school ...
                    Not everyone was accepted into the Komsomol, as you say in a row, but after the recommendation of members of the Komsomol cell for them ....

                    What is KID? The ties were “forgotten at home”, probably from the year 82, and were not accepted into the Komsomol, probably only with unsatisfactory behavior, the Komsomol cell, the school one, was just an empty formality. And what, shy to ask, do you have against the Komsomol? Is it strange that you have nothing against the Pioneers and the Octobrists, or am I mistaken? Like the CPSU, he was exactly the same “formal” organization, but he did not decide anything (in the broad sense of the word).
                    1. Lara Croft
                      Lara Croft April 29 2020 15: 12 New
                      +1
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      What is KID?

                      Eeeee ... daresko said .... even the main pioneer leader of the school was afraid of him, because it was not only public, but also to some extent a political burden ....
                      KID is an international friendship club, it strongly recommended everyone to collect money, toys and drawings for poor African children, etc., such a senior student was in every school, usually with glasses and an ideological gaze ...
                      Is it strange that you have nothing against the Pioneers and the Octobrists, or am I mistaken?

                      True, the last tie removed ...
                      Like the CPSU, he was exactly the same “formal” organization, but he did not decide anything (in the broad sense of the word).

                      But the nomenclature was not visible there, except for the aforementioned comrades .... and also the ideology was not so strongly imposed .... more freedom of creativity .... and the pioneer heroes in the Second World War died for the Soviet people, and not for the Soviet ideology. ..
                      And then, I had nothing against playing the Zarnitsa, collecting waste paper and scrap metal, the availability of circles and sections ....
                      1. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets April 29 2020 16: 27 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        KID - International Friendship Club

                        We didn’t have this either in school or in a technical school (I didn’t think you should be blamed for lies, apparently there was a local specificity everywhere). And I already thought that you had some kind of zoological hatred of everything Soviet, glad that I was mistaken.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral April 29 2020 12: 12 New
          +1
          So this is the technique - to write everyone down as liberals and at the same time consider that all these "liberals", that is, the people, stand up for the thieves in power.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 29 2020 12: 40 New
            -2
            Quote: NordUral
            So this is the technique - to write everyone down as liberals and at the same time consider that all these "liberals", the people

            One of the main signs of the "liberals" is the constant attempts to pass off their own opinion as the general opinion of a certain "people"
            1. NordUral
              NordUral April 29 2020 12: 48 New
              +1
              I just wrote that I express only my opinion. And looking for consonants with him, as allies, Shovela.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 29 2020 12: 50 New
                -1
                Quote: NordUral
                I just wrote that I express only my opinion.

                Are you sure that I can’t read?
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral April 29 2020 12: 55 New
                  +2
                  Not sure, but I won’t deny it. I will say again that I am writing about my understanding of the situation. And I clearly understand that not everyone agrees with me. And that not everyone needs to wake up.
            2. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets April 29 2020 13: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              One of the main signs of the "liberals" is the constant attempts to pass off their own opinion as the general opinion of a certain "people"

              Do not distort. Everyone is a part of the people.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 29 2020 13: 37 New
                +1
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Do not distort. Everyone is a part of the people.

                I agree. Moreover, Putin's fans are also part of the people.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets April 29 2020 13: 53 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Spade
                  I agree. Moreover, Putin's fans are also part of the people.

                  Yes, one cannot disagree with this. The bad thing is that there is a stratification of society, and the authorities pretend that they do not notice it.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 29 2020 14: 07 New
                    -1
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    The bad thing is that the stratification of society

                    What is bad here?
                    Everyone should have the right to their opinion.
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets April 29 2020 14: 41 New
                      0
                      Quote: Spade
                      What is bad here?
                      Everyone should have the right to their opinion.

                      I'm afraid it will soon reach ugly extremes.
        3. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA April 29 2020 17: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: bondrostov
          And you girl do not comb all liberals. They are afraid of the people here and arm.

          And how should the people of Soviet power have been afraid - since it armed the NKVD / MVD VV with tanks and artillery ... wink
  • Romul_78
    Romul_78 April 29 2020 09: 58 New
    -7
    There is such a chance that millions of hungry people will start to go out, and there they will be waiting for guys with grenades
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 April 29 2020 10: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Romul_78
      There is such a possibility

      The case when the folly is a mitigating circumstance. yes
      1. Romul_78
        Romul_78 April 29 2020 10: 44 New
        -1
        Still have what? Well it will pass
      2. NordUral
        NordUral April 29 2020 11: 12 New
        0
        Is it so unbelievable, Paranoid50?
      3. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor April 29 2020 12: 41 New
        -3
        It is an explanation but not an excuse.
    2. saigon
      saigon April 29 2020 13: 42 New
      -1
      But these guys obviously will not be given these grenades, for one simple reason they can throw unprepared ones.
      No, I understand they teach and all that, but grenades are often thrown not cocked in the park.
      Well, and besides, well, not the beast in power, who will give the order with grenades to people?
      So they definitely won’t apply against crowds of people, a dense construction can be a boom.
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT April 29 2020 17: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: saigon
        But these guys obviously will not be given these grenades, for one simple reason they can throw unprepared ones.
        No, I understand they teach and all that, but grenades are often thrown not cocked in the park.
        Well, and besides, well, not the beast in power, who will give the order with grenades to people?
        So they definitely won’t apply against crowds of people, a dense construction can be a boom.

        Under Nicholas 2 (bloody), now canonized, they shot ... hi
        1. saigon
          saigon April 29 2020 18: 48 New
          0
          Well, there used to be a lot of things, but now forgive other times and customs.
          In order to give such an order it is necessary to have the will and to know for sure that it will be executed, but there can be problems with the execution of people now they can not think dark.
          And in the guard of this conscripts and the big question is whether they will throw grenades at people.
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ April 29 2020 10: 02 New
    11
    not expensive, 2900rub. apiece, I would buy a box at that price, for every fireman
    1. Bshkaus
      Bshkaus April 29 2020 10: 20 New
      +6
      not expensive, 2900rub. apiece, I would buy a box at that price, for every fireman

      Why spend money? The practice of Donbass has shown that in the event of a civil conflict, the entire nomenclature used by government armed forces to suppress civilian initiative very quickly passes into the hands of militias))).
      You still have nowhere to park tanks)))
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 29 2020 10: 32 New
        0
        Quote: Bshkaus
        The practice of Donbass has shown that in the event of a civil conflict, the entire nomenclature used by government armed forces to suppress civilian initiative very quickly passes into the hands of militias))).

        And what did the practice of Nalchik show? laughing
        Damn, your audience and enemies do not need ...
        1. NordUral
          NordUral April 29 2020 11: 28 New
          +1
          Damn, your audience and enemies do not need ...

          I agree that there is no need for enemies with this power, everything is already at home.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 29 2020 12: 41 New
            -3
            Quote: NordUral
            I agree that there is no need for enemies with this power, everything is already at home.

            So change it, what problems?
            Elections are held regularly.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral April 29 2020 12: 44 New
              +1
              Change Lopatov, do not doubt. The people will wake up and change.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 29 2020 12: 46 New
                -3
                Quote: NordUral
                Change, Shovels, do not hesitate. The people will wake up and change.

                Well, as usual .... "wrong wrong" laughing laughing laughing
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral April 29 2020 12: 50 New
                  -1
                  Do not distort Lopatov. Ilya Muromets also slept, and then woke up and ...
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 29 2020 12: 52 New
                    -3
                    Quote: NordUral
                    Ilya Muromets also slept, and then woke up

                    For this, "cross stitches" were needed. People are right and respected. Able to express their thoughts.
                    You have none.
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral April 29 2020 12: 57 New
                      0
                      For "this" situation was needed.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 29 2020 13: 38 New
                        0
                        Quote: NordUral
                        For "this" situation was needed.

                        So your goal is a “situation”?
                        So you are interested in making the people live as bad as possible?
                      2. NordUral
                        NordUral April 29 2020 16: 01 New
                        -1
                        Shovels, and yet you are a provocateur.
                        This is the goal of existing power.
                      3. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 29 2020 16: 02 New
                        0
                        Quote: NordUral
                        This is the goal of existing power.

                        "The purpose of the existing government" to make it at the troughs replaced by those for whom you drown?
                      4. NordUral
                        NordUral April 29 2020 16: 06 New
                        -1
                        In our history, there are no examples of people in power, for whom power is not trough, but only a way to make the country better.
                      5. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 29 2020 16: 10 New
                        -1
                        Quote: NordUral
                        for whom power is not trough, but only a way to make the country better.

                        There are no such people since the death of Stalin.
                      6. NordUral
                        NordUral April 29 2020 16: 30 New
                        +1
                        There are, Lopatov, but not enough, alas! But there is.
                      7. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 29 2020 16: 39 New
                        +1
                        Quote: NordUral
                        Yes, Lopatov

                        Is that what they say?
                        And you suggest me to believe in it?
                        laughing laughing laughing laughing
                      8. NordUral
                        NordUral April 29 2020 17: 03 New
                        +2
                        I don’t have to offer you anything; it’s empty. The most ridiculous or sad thing, how to look at everything that is happening, is that in the second half of the 80s I was an ardent supporter of the murder of socialism, in the 90s I believed that we would take the right path. But 20 years of the 21st century turned me into a supporter of socialism.
                        People are sinful and weak. But for this, the state also exists. To curb the presumptuous, support the weak. And the most important thing is to support the economy and defense. And for this, education, science, medicine, etc. Then not very honest people will work for the good of the country, but not for its destruction.
                      9. Mabius
                        Mabius April 29 2020 17: 18 New
                        +4
                        Quote: NordUral
                        I don’t have to offer you anything; it’s empty. The most ridiculous or sad thing, how to look at everything that is happening, is that in the second half of the 80s I was an ardent supporter of the murder of socialism, in the 90s I believed that we would take the right path. But 20 years of the 21st century turned me into a supporter of socialism.
                        People are sinful and weak. But for this, the state also exists.

                        You have come a long way (fire and copper pipes) before your eyes opened .. As they say it’s better late than never .. By the way, such very hard and unyielding statesmen become .. They know all this kitchen and have something to compare .. Well, God forbid so you don’t change your mind .. hi
                      10. NordUral
                        NordUral April 29 2020 18: 02 New
                        -2
                        I will not change, the old is already changing. Only I am not a statesman, but a simple peasant and I know my place.
                    2. Lopatov
                      Lopatov April 29 2020 18: 07 New
                      +3
                      Quote: NordUral
                      in the second half of the 80s I was an ardent supporter of the murder of socialism, in the 90s I believed that we would take the right path

                      Yoshkin cat ....
                      So it was me who, like you, in Chechnya, lost friends and health?
                      And now, mother-brood, are you drawn to feats again?
                      Didn't the krovushki get drunk?
                    3. NordUral
                      NordUral April 29 2020 18: 11 New
                      +1
                      This is to Yeltsin and comrades. I am a simple mechanic, my business with glands is to mess around, which I continue to do in retirement, for the soul. And stop juggling, Lopatov, you don't seem to be a thimble.
                    4. Lopatov
                      Lopatov April 29 2020 18: 48 New
                      0
                      Quote: NordUral
                      This is to Yeltsin and comrades.

                      Well, naturally.
                      The whole country was against when the Yeltsin destroyed the USSR ...

                      Quote: NordUral
                      And stop juggling

                      At first, your audience was dripping on the brains about "with 50 grades of sausage it is much better" And in the end, no one stupidly intervened for the USSR.
                      And we had to eliminate the consequences.

                      Now your audience has a new bzik. Again "anti-people’s power, we want socialism back." Well, now destroy Russia, again the river of blood. again young boys will die ...

                      And then your brethren will scratch the back of your head, look around Moskovia with eagle eyes in the territory of the present Moscow Region. and decides that "now we will fight for capitalism, for 50 varieties of sausage and against totalitarian power.
                    5. NordUral
                      NordUral April 29 2020 19: 19 New
                      -5
                      About the sausage. Shovels, this is not for me, I’m not picky and didn’t drip on anyone’s brains. I wanted to change, because only for my deputy’s term I had seen enough of that power that was just in time for the arrival of the labeled one.
                      I have already said that you like the thieves and destroyers of the country, your business.
                      And the last, it is precisely they who will lead the Muscovite country, which they have been doing for more than 30 years.
                    6. Lopatov
                      Lopatov April 29 2020 20: 02 New
                      0
                      Quote: NordUral
                      About the sausage.

                      I'm not talking about sausages, I'm talking about people like you.
                      Which have a constant "opposition itch"

                      Quote: NordUral
                      And the last, it is precisely they who will lead the Muscovite country, which they have been doing for more than 30 years.

                      But lying is not worth it. Not me anyway.
                    7. NordUral
                      NordUral April 29 2020 20: 11 New
                      -4
                      About lying, but you yourself are not funny? Or are you hiding in a crystal casket?
                      And I do not suffer from various itching, but just see what they are doing with the country and the people.

                      And probably enough for us to talk, take a break. I have an interesting business. I draw a plywood ribbon machine for myself at the cottage. I want to make it quiet. And then the neighbors are nervous and they exhausted all the nerves from the profile pipes. Very sensitive and excellent hearing.
                    8. Lopatov
                      Lopatov April 29 2020 20: 15 New
                      +1
                      Quote: NordUral
                      About lying, but you yourself are not funny?

                      I’m not funny, because I myself participated in this. And in my own skin I felt what it was like to maintain territorial integrity.
                    9. NordUral
                      NordUral April 29 2020 20: 17 New
                      -1
                      I respect, I say sincerely. Fate has protected me from this.
  • Mabius
    Mabius April 29 2020 17: 13 New
    +5
    Quote: NordUral
    There are, Lopatov, but not enough, alas! But there is.

    There is, otherwise Russia would not have existed for a long time .. There are fewer and fewer of them, they are dying and persecuting .. And yet the country is holding onto them!
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft April 29 2020 11: 03 New
    0
    Quote: _Ugene_
    not expensive, 2900rub. apiece, I would buy a box at that price, for every fireman

    I think that for you to become a lumberjack or a feller of a forest, one is enough ... laughing
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 29 2020 12: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Lara Croft
      I think that you become a lumberjack or a feller of a forest

      Rather tailoring. Sewing tops laughing

      In general, from my own experience, a specific grenade. Maybe they’ve fixed it now, but it used to be very dangerous.
  • NordUral
    NordUral April 29 2020 11: 16 New
    -1
    I already wrote once about such a desire, so the defenders of thieves in power tried to peck me, spraying loyal follower with saliva.
  • sledak
    sledak April 29 2020 10: 06 New
    +3
    I do not understand these tenders, we have that many factories produce these grenades?
    This is the development of the most prestigious NPO Bazalt JSC, the leading organization in the Russian Federation to create all types of unguided bombs, mortar rounds with mines for various purposes of all types and calibers, anti-tank and anti-sabotage grenade launchers, hand-held offensive and defensive grenades, and non-lethal ammunition.

    Surely it is produced at factories belonging to the same group, which means there is no sense in the tender at all, pure water is formalism for the sake of observing the letter of the law.

    But now everyone will discuss, in which the VNG grenade throw gathered
    1. Hagen
      Hagen April 29 2020 10: 51 New
      0
      Quote: sledak
      I do not understand these tenders, we have that many factories produce these grenades?

      Check out FZ-44, everything will become clear ... And the letter of the law must be respected in any case.
    2. Digital
      Digital error April 29 2020 10: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: sledak
      pure water formalism

      In current realities, yes. Initially, the idea was good - to ensure control over procurement transparency. It seems to me that the legs are growing from the time of the "open government" Medvedev-Abyzov.
  • Alex 2020
    Alex 2020 April 29 2020 10: 09 New
    +3
    In catching up with the article ..... I will reveal the terrible secret of the Gendarmerie (it’s also the Russian Guard, it’s the National Guard). They still buy ammunition and weapons systematically! laughing
    But seriously, they took a lot of places (when they were explosives) and take part in the CTO in the Caucasus.
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 29 2020 10: 18 New
      +1
      want to say, and their weapons are military ?? what for???
      1. Alex 2020
        Alex 2020 April 29 2020 10: 19 New
        +2
        And this is how you, your fantasy will draw.
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 29 2020 10: 20 New
          +4
          better not, my imagination is unlimited
    2. alone
      alone April 29 2020 10: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: Alex 2020
      But seriously, they took a lot of places (when they were explosives) and take part in the CTO in the Caucasus.

      Actually, in 2017, the head of the FSB Bortikov officially declared that terrorism was stopped in the North Caucasus, the bandit underground was liquidated ..
      1. tagil
        tagil April 29 2020 11: 11 New
        10
        Actually, in 2017, the head of the FSB Bortikov officially declared that terrorism was stopped in the North Caucasus, the bandit underground was liquidated ..
        And do not say in what year they officially caught (he left the forest Voluntarily) the last Bandera in Ukraine. But according to the official version, Bandera was also finished very quickly.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin April 29 2020 11: 25 New
          +3
          Quote: Tagil
          Actually, in 2017, the head of the FSB Bortikov officially declared that terrorism was stopped in the North Caucasus, the bandit underground was liquidated ..
          And do not say in what year they officially caught (he left the forest Voluntarily) the last Bandera in Ukraine. But according to the official version, Bandera was also finished very quickly.

          That's right, Sergey hi .
          1. tagil
            tagil April 29 2020 11: 38 New
            +7
            I don’t understand this hype about grenades. Such an amount is a minuscule that can only be used for combat training of L / C on grenade throwing at the firing range. This is not enough even for the standard armament of half of the Guard.
        2. alone
          alone April 29 2020 11: 41 New
          0
          Quote: Tagil
          But according to the official version, Bandera was also finished very quickly.

          This is a statement by the head of the FSB Bortnikov, not mine .. So I think there should not be any complaints against me
          1. tagil
            tagil April 29 2020 11: 53 New
            +5
            What are the claims of a colleague. But there’s no war there anymore, but
            individual groups can be mothballed and activated as needed. The head of the department always talks about the big picture. particular and individual cases this does not cancel
            as Dmitry said below.
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 April 29 2020 11: 13 New
        -1
        this does not negate the fact that individual groups can be mothballed and activated as needed. The head of the department always talks about the big picture. particular and individual cases this does not cancel. again, members of these formations can move between regions and emerge where they can. so the fact of combat readiness has not been canceled.
        1. alone
          alone April 29 2020 11: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: carstorm 11
          again, members of these formations can move between regions and emerge where they can. so the fact of combat readiness has not been canceled.

          Did I really say that after Bortnikov’s words one should sleep? I just reminded the interlocutor of Bortnikov’s statement made in 2017 ... Officially, the WHO in the North Caucasus has completed .. this is a fact ..
          And the fact that there are unfinished or stuck there, it may well be possible hi
      3. Terenin
        Terenin April 29 2020 11: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: lonely
        Quote: Alex 2020
        But seriously, they took a lot of places (when they were explosives) and take part in the CTO in the Caucasus.

        Actually, in 2017, the head of the FSB Bortikov officially declared that terrorism was stopped in the North Caucasus, the bandit underground was liquidated ..

        All right, BortNikov said that it (the bandit underground) was virtually completely liquidated, like a structured bandit organization engaged in activities directed against the existing government.
        In particular, the debugged channels of internal and external financing of terrorists, other types of supplies and weapons are blocked .... well, etc.
      4. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 29 2020 17: 56 New
        0
        Quote: lonely
        Actually, in 2017, the head of the FSB Bortikov officially declared that terrorism was stopped in the North Caucasus, the bandit underground was liquidated ..

        But even two years after this statement, the FSB and the BB / WG continued to fight in the UK.
    3. Altona
      Altona April 29 2020 10: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: Alex 2020
      But seriously, they took a lot of places (when they were explosives) and take part in the CTO in the Caucasus.

      ------------------------
      WHO is against several (no more than a dozen) terrorists or against irregular groups of tens or hundreds of people with exhausting battles with attacks and counterattacks for XNUMX hours? No, well, if necessary, then let them buy, in the well-known GTA game, you can also arm yourself with a full Apache tank and helicopter, and chase all of San Andreas for buoys in the ocean.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 29 2020 19: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Altona
        WHO is against several (no more than a dozen) terrorists or against irregular groups of tens or hundreds of people with exhausting battles with attacks and counterattacks for XNUMX hours?

        This is against small groups of 5-20 people, but with assaults on buildings and caches in mountainous and wooded areas. In such conditions, grenades are a necessary thing.
        Quote: Altona
        No, well, if necessary, then let them buy, in the well-known GTA game, you can also arm yourself with a full Apache tank and helicopter, and chase all of San Andreas for buoys in the ocean.

        How long ago it was ... Now, the owners of the devilish invention of the stellar stars - Oppressor MK II are relegating and crushing everyone online. Without their "pipe with the wheel" now even from home to a nightclub can not be reached - other owners will beat purely out of interest. smile
        1. Altona
          Altona April 29 2020 19: 18 New
          -1
          Quote: Alexey RA
          This is against small groups of 5-20 people, but with assaults on buildings and caches in mountainous and wooded areas. In such conditions, grenades are a necessary thing.

          --------------------------
          The question is, what exactly now? Exactly at the moment the purchase of pomegranates is urgently needed? Yesterday early, tomorrow late? laughing
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA April 29 2020 19: 26 New
            0
            Quote: Altona
            The question is, what exactly now? Exactly at the moment the purchase of pomegranates is urgently needed? Yesterday early, tomorrow late?

            The question must be posed differently: why did the Rosgvardia’s planned purchase of pomegranates in the framework of the state defense order attracted such attention? wink
  • Graz
    Graz April 29 2020 10: 11 New
    +4
    If you plan to apply in the Caucasus, then why are they going to be stored in the suburbs?
    questions still remain
    1. novel66
      novel66 April 29 2020 10: 18 New
      0
      steal in the Caucasus ... definitely
      1. Graz
        Graz April 29 2020 10: 21 New
        -2
        for me it looks more like a budget cut and theft
        1. novel66
          novel66 April 29 2020 10: 22 New
          0
          Well, right away ... then, of course, they will bite off who needs it, but as without grenades
        2. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov April 29 2020 14: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Graz
          for me it looks more like a budget cut and theft

          For a grenade - about 3000 rubles - cut the budget ????? In the states, a similar grenade is about $ 100 a piece. That's where the cut. :)
    2. Digital
      Digital error April 29 2020 10: 56 New
      0
      Quote: Graz
      why are they going to be stored in the suburbs?

      This is not stated in the article. Moscow region - the delivery address, and there they will distribute.
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 29 2020 11: 15 New
      -1
      business trip rotation. What surprises you so much? combat ready units should be everywhere. or do you want to bring them weapons if something suddenly? training also stop using live ammunition and weapons?
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 29 2020 19: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Graz
      If you plan to apply in the Caucasus, then why are they going to be stored in the suburbs?
      questions still remain

      So Balashikha is ODON, now the only BB / WG division.
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 April 29 2020 10: 12 New
    +7
    Quote: carstorm 11
    and what's interesting about that? when they carry out operations in the Caucasus, for example, do they need to throw stones at your place?)

    Why tease geese? Would transfer from the balance of the MO to the balance of the guard. And that’s all. A new grenades would buy MO. And there is no hype and rumors. But, as always, nobody wants to think.
    1. Graz
      Graz April 29 2020 10: 17 New
      0
      heh maybe they will do it according to your scheme, but they will conduct it as a purchase, do you think the state budget saw cutters are completely gone
    2. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener April 29 2020 10: 18 New
      0
      But, as always, nobody wants to think. This primarily concerns those who scribble these rumors on the Internet.
    3. novel66
      novel66 April 29 2020 10: 19 New
      +2
      why complex schemes ?? normal work
    4. Digital
      Digital error April 29 2020 10: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Sentry73
      Would transfer from the balance of the MO to the balance of the guard.

      For this, conditional Zolotov would have to “beat the brow” in front of Shoigu. And it’s not for you to call Navalny on the tatami lol
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 29 2020 19: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: DigitalError
        For this, conditional Zolotov would have to “beat the brow” in front of Shoigu.

        Not only. There would immediately be a problem with the transferred property. For in such schemes another's uncle usually transmitted on a principle on you god that we are worthless.

        What is it like gain transmission - one of the Vovans recalled that in the First Chechen Army they were reinforced with three army infantry fighting vehicles, of which only two were on the move and only one had at least some trained crew.
  • Hypatius
    Hypatius April 29 2020 10: 18 New
    +5
    People come up with a state to protect themselves from enemies. Our state invents enemies to defend itself against the people.
    But the liberals settled in power, the author again beguiled everything. Beggar people are not liberals.
    According to liberals, Rosgvardia’s employees are only involved in patrolling city streets and have never taken part in hostilities, therefore, to buy offensive grenades
    Yes, it would be different training and motivation. Gendarmes are useless if there is an army and police with different tasks.
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich April 29 2020 10: 28 New
      -2
      I wonder what kind of danger do you personally pose for the state? Cross the road in the wrong place?
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft April 29 2020 11: 11 New
        -4
        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        I wonder what kind of danger do you personally pose for the state? Cross the road in the wrong place?

        No, he’s basically unemployed ...
    2. taiga2018
      taiga2018 April 29 2020 10: 31 New
      -7
      Quote: Hypatius
      Beggar people are not liberals.

      What a beautiful play on the words "impoverished people", apparently you didn’t see poverty, oh would you dunk your face into real poverty, and because of you and a couple of such alarmists and whiners, it’s a pity the whole country ...
      1. Hypatius
        Hypatius April 29 2020 10: 46 New
        +5
        Oh, dunk you face in real poverty,
        or
        What personal danger do you pose for the state?
        Where are you, such "smart" in the Kremlin boat recruited? At least a little brain strain, so that on the topic of what to say. Well this is the lowest troll method - the transition to personality! It is clear that the plan on the shaft of comments, they just think - you need to jump laughing, and also +/- to arrange. But here it is, not RusVesna, the level is higher, and your "congenial" emissions, like a thorn, are visible. Without respect.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 29 2020 11: 16 New
          -5
          calm down already. ) You don’t understand what you are carrying?)
          1. Hypatius
            Hypatius April 29 2020 11: 20 New
            +1
            carstorm 11
            calm down already. ) You don’t understand what you are carrying?)
            Cho wanted to say something? Just earn a pretty penny, but support the brigade. They arranged it themselves, here from an interesting chat some kind of senseless srach was off topic.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 29 2020 12: 44 New
              -4
              Quote: Hypatius
              They did it themselves, here from an interesting chat

              laughing
              Yes ...
              1. Hypatius
                Hypatius April 29 2020 12: 50 New
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                Quote: Hypatius
                They did it themselves, here from an interesting chat

                laughing
                Yes ...

                Well, you justify your position. There is reason to think, and I don’t remember the stupid transitions to personality. Why is it so modest now? Sincerely.
        2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich April 29 2020 11: 34 New
          -4
          At least a little brain strain, so that on the topic of what to say.

          What topic? Why Rosgvardia grenades? But you have already determined this, and whoever disagrees with you is on salary.
          Are you not a beggar? Or not the people? Will you do a revolution? Do you know anyone personally who is ready right now to fight the Rosguard, armed, among other things, with these very grenades?
          1. Altona
            Altona April 29 2020 14: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            Are you not a beggar? Or not the people? Will you do a revolution? Do you know anyone personally who is ready right now to fight the Rosguard, armed, among other things, with these very grenades?

            -------------------------
            Judging by the powerful media wave, the “revolution” will be made at the top, by the apical revolution. Liberal media is moving very strongly - good videos, insinuating voices, social rhetoric, de facto we are already in the post-Putin era. Some kind of “revenge” is being prepared at the top, the feed base because it has disappeared and now, so to say, “underfed” will overthrow the “overfed” ones. Here I’m even conditionally rather on the side of GDP, because the upcoming 2020s may be better than the 1990s. In the sense that "cutting the beam" at the top will not change the system, but will defragment it completely. Our kingdom risks scattering into feuds and Hanseatic cities, so to speak.
        3. taiga2018
          taiga2018 April 29 2020 17: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: Hypatius
          Where are you, such "smart" in the Kremlin boat recruited? At least a little brain strain, so that on the topic of what to say. Well this is the lowest troll method - the transition to personality!

          Well, why is a ceremony with a fool like you, a ceremony with such people in Ukraine, and now what ... Yes, and it’s a pity to spend one of the grenades on you, you’ll soon burst from your shit ...
      2. Altona
        Altona April 29 2020 11: 02 New
        +6
        Quote: taiga2018
        and because of you and a couple of such alarmists and whiners, it’s a pity the whole country ...

        ------------------------
        What plan is it a pity? Sorry to share, to sell yourself? Already have nothing to sell, yet to share with the poor? laughing laughing
    3. NordUral
      NordUral April 29 2020 11: 32 New
      +5
      Gendarmes are useless if there is an army and police with different tasks.

      And it seems to them that they realized that October helped organize the General Staff of the Republic of Ingushetia.
      They do not trust the military. I repeat - to the military, and not to the different rescuers there.
      1. Altona
        Altona April 29 2020 14: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: NordUral
        And it seems to them that they realized that October helped organize the General Staff of the Republic of Ingushetia.
        They do not trust the military. I repeat - to the military, and not to the different rescuers there.

        ------------------------------------
        Today, everyone sat down to re-read the legacy of Lenin to lay straws, power and people in the sense. 1917 because what is remarkable is the fact that there was a huge mass to the teeth of the armed people. Today this is not, a huge mass of "people with a gun," but today is a digital war.
        PS Why is it always like this with us, someone grabs hold of power, clings to it with their teeth and claws, and let's "reign" - stole, roam and feast? And then they whine "the limit on the revolution has been exhausted." Elected officials become kings and boyars. They cannot organize a normal rotation of power. They consider power a resource for enrichment, and not a tool for serving the people.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral April 29 2020 15: 41 New
          0
          Yes, Eugene! At the nightingale in his gadyushnik, every second can not live without socialism. But here only the power "ours" licks with all zeal. And on YouTube there are so many supporters of socialism and fighters for the happiness of the people that the head is spinning.
          However, in order to unite and sweep away evil spirits from power in a united front, there is only one chatter.
          1. Altona
            Altona April 29 2020 15: 50 New
            0
            Quote: NordUral
            And on YouTube there are so many supporters of socialism and fighters for the happiness of the people that the head is spinning.

            ---------------------
            And they are all there for the money. Unwind your little channel for subscribers and cut money quite yourself. Petya Batalov recently uncovered and uncovered the rest, they just cut money on the opposition there. But I really honestly heard from one blogger that he cuts money on Youtube, 30-70 thousand rubles a month (advertising, merchandising (youtube logo on a T-shirt)), and he’s not the most popular there, this is writer Andrei Semenov (Lochpozhizni-channel )
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 April 29 2020 10: 18 New
    +1
    A lot of “surprising” things happen, for example, farmers buy fertilizers (why would it be), buy a broom for janitors (it’s very strange why they need it), skiers ski (it’s not at all clear what they will do with them, it’s suspicious), and etc ...
    1. Altona
      Altona April 29 2020 15: 56 New
      0
      Quote: taiga2018
      A lot of “surprising” things happen, for example, farmers buy fertilizers (why would it)

      ----------------------
      Here you are at a point straight. In the gist. Rosguards buy pomegranates, and doctors can’t buy penny masks and gloves during the coronovirus pandemic. Apparently grenades are more needed today than PPE and medicines.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 29 2020 17: 59 New
      0
      Quote: taiga2018
      A lot of "surprising" happens, for example, farmers buy fertilizers (why would it)

      Ammonite to numb, not otherwise. Or another well-known saltpeter mixture. smile
      Quote: taiga2018
      a broom is being bought for janitors (it’s very strange why they need it)

      To disperse the demonstrations is to help riot police. smile
  • Hypatius
    Hypatius April 29 2020 10: 27 New
    0
    Kisevschina article and splatters laughing The people are stupid, just to give facts to them, you need to chew everything and designate enemies. negative A lot of emotions and spitting so that the brain does not turn on.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 29 2020 10: 41 New
    0
    Grenades analogue of internal troops ??? but what is the problem then?
    1. Digital
      Digital error April 29 2020 11: 03 New
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      analogue of the internal troops?

      Why did you need to create this analogue? Seriously, I don’t understand, without any trolling. Well, they would increase the number of explosives and the end of the matter. But we followed the path of Ukraine ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 29 2020 11: 26 New
        +1
        - We will go our own way!
        - And what?
        - In his own way!
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 29 2020 18: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: DigitalError
        Why did you need to create this analogue?

        And they did not create it. Just rebranded - BB renamed to WG. And they brought new explosives out of the control of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        Quote: DigitalError
        Well, they would increase the number of explosives and the end of the matter.

        But they didn’t increase it. It’s just that in addition to the explosives themselves, the FSUE “Guard” (later absorbed by other departmental guards) was included in the WG, which is about 85 thousand people.
    2. cniza
      cniza April 29 2020 13: 23 New
      +3
      Not the analogue, but the assignee ... hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 29 2020 13: 36 New
        -1
        Hi soldier
        To replace, of course.
        We wanted to live in a new way, now we will feed the police and other guards.
        It may happen that the flesh of its flesh, it will not be possible to recognize!
        1. cniza
          cniza April 29 2020 13: 40 New
          +3
          We should live quietly peacefully and calmly, I mean the state of Russia, without any shocks, wars and revolutions ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 29 2020 13: 57 New
            +1
            Dreams, dreams .... this can only be dreamed of in a dream.
            It is already as if long ago without a war, but peace is not there.
            1. cniza
              cniza April 29 2020 18: 23 New
              +3
              There are different wars, and now it’s going on, unless they shoot and bomb ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 29 2020 19: 12 New
                +1
                They don’t shoot, they don’t bomb ... but there are not small losses.
                1. cniza
                  cniza April 29 2020 20: 28 New
                  +3
                  Unfortunately, not everyone understands this how to deal with it.
  • Izotovp
    Izotovp April 29 2020 10: 43 New
    0
    Interestingly, we are developing bouncing grenades? And silent.
  • Suraikin.Aleksandr
    Suraikin.Aleksandr April 29 2020 10: 44 New
    +6
    In general, it is not entirely clear why such a huge power structure of the Rosguard is necessary for 340 people. By the time of the collapse of the USSR, the internal troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs were 000, 250 divisions, while the overwhelming mass of the internal troops were 000 convoy divisions, the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs was involved in guarding colonies and escorting prisoners. Now the FSIN Penitentiary Service is a separate structure with its own staff. Why keep such a huge staff of servicemen if the Rosguard is not facing the task of guarding the colonies?
    1. Altona
      Altona April 29 2020 10: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: Suraikin.Aleksandr
      In general, it is not entirely clear why such a huge power structure of the Rosguard is necessary for 340 people.

      -------------------------
      To control the population of this quantity is still small. This amount is still spread throughout the country.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 29 2020 11: 38 New
        +2
        Eugene, not only for control, but also for stripping dissatisfied. And they are waiting for them a lot, judging by the news.
        1. Altona
          Altona April 29 2020 19: 23 New
          -1
          Quote: NordUral
          Eugene, not only for control, but also for stripping dissatisfied. And they are waiting for them a lot, judging by the news.

          -----------------------
          Eugene, the amendments to the Constitution simply began to sparkle with new colors. State-forming people-QR-Ausweis and muzzles plus self-isolation with access to the outside only when necessary, plus opening cars, apartments and shooting without warning. Any minimum wages and hot breakfasts after stripping, and then, if you prove in a month maybe. The consolidation of sovereignty is impossible without the system enterprises of Coca-Cola and Pepsi, Metro Cash & Carry, McDonald's. Of course, in such conditions, only the purchase of pomegranates is needed more than ever.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral April 29 2020 19: 27 New
            -1
            What are we talking about, namesake, everything is so. Poor guys are all but ordinary people.
            And this is only the beginning of a long journey to the abyss, or to rebirth.
            And we are trampling around at the crossroads, like three heroes, but we still haven’t woken up
    2. NordUral
      NordUral April 29 2020 11: 36 New
      +2
      Their job is to deal with future prisoners, if they happen after special measures to combat terrorists (rebellious people who do not want, for example, to have a chip in their ass).
    3. AAK
      AAK April 29 2020 13: 00 New
      -1
      Minus the central apparatus, minus the apparatus of the territorial administrations, minus all divisions of the licensing system, minus all divisions of the FSUE Okhrana ... As a result, the troops, together with the OMON-SOBR, to all of Russia no more than 100-120 thousand.
      1. Suraikin.Aleksandr
        Suraikin.Aleksandr April 29 2020 14: 28 New
        +2
        Before the creation of the Russian Guard, the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia were 170 thousand. Sobry was about 5,2 thousand; OMON was about 40 thousand.
    4. your1970
      your1970 April 29 2020 13: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Suraikin.Aleksandr
      In general, it is not entirely clear why such a huge power structure of the Rosguard is necessary for 340 people. The internal troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs at the time of the collapse of the USSR were 000 people, 250 divisions, while the vast majority of the internal troops were convoys of 000 divisions,
      The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR had no adversaries in the North Caucasus armed with mortars, grenade launchers, machine guns and all other fun
      1. Altona
        Altona April 29 2020 14: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: your1970
        The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR had no adversaries in the North Caucasus armed with mortars, grenade launchers, machine guns and all other fun

        ------------------------------
        Do you mean the Kadyrov’s army?
        1. Suraikin.Aleksandr
          Suraikin.Aleksandr April 29 2020 15: 15 New
          0
          Kadyrov’s troops are certainly departmental to the Russian Guard. They write that Zolotov and Kadyrov have close friendly relations. On the Internet, you can easily see a huge number of joint photos.
      2. Suraikin.Aleksandr
        Suraikin.Aleksandr April 29 2020 14: 51 New
        0
        By the time of the creation of the Russian Guard, there were no large militant formations in the North Caucasus.
    5. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 29 2020 18: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Suraikin.Aleksandr
      In general, it is not entirely clear why such a huge power structure of the Rosguard is necessary for 340 people.

      Of these, 85 people are FSUE Okhrana. Plus in the WG all OMON and SOBR were included.
  • NordUral
    NordUral April 29 2020 10: 51 New
    +4
    where the fighters of the Russian Guard have repeatedly entered into battle with all kinds of terrorists and militants of all stripes.

    Paired with amendments to the law on the police, allowing us to get out of personal cars, break into a house or apartment, shoot to kill and other cute trifles - great news.
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 29 2020 12: 10 New
    +3
    Tender for grenades ??? And it's not about fruit?
    Do we have a tender for nuclear warheads? Or do they buy from a single supplier, which is thoroughly controlled and accountable to the state?
  • AAK
    AAK April 29 2020 12: 53 New
    0
    57 and a half thousand offensive grenades purchased in addition to those already in stock and in parts (units). I don’t think there are any grenades there. And the purchased quantity is approximately one ammunition load (including planned exercises (training) on ​​throwing combat grenades) at the Dzerzhinsky division. I believe (if it’s wrong, then my knowledgeable colleagues will correct it) that a similar amount of grenades could be used as if if not for the entire Chechen company ...
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 29 2020 13: 06 New
    +1
    Bullshit is a question, the main thing is to be real and not "golden".

    Because there were already tenders for pistols, as if made of gold .... (maybe dlch honored deputies and senators as a gift ??? they have it fashionable ....)
  • Junior Private
    Junior Private April 29 2020 13: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: carstorm 11
    need to throw stones

    What kind of stones ???
    They are children.
    To persuade, only to persuade.

    The grenade, in itself, is a universal thing. She can hammer small nails, and without pulling out the checks in the lobeshnik light up, and she looks solid. And carrying stones with you is the last century.
  • iouris
    iouris April 29 2020 13: 27 New
    0
    The best defense is an offensive.
  • faterdom
    faterdom April 29 2020 14: 18 New
    +2
    By the way, note for virologists: a grenade with the receipt removed and held in the hand helps maintain a social safe distance, and almost completely protects against Covid19, even better than a mask, gloves or a QR code on a smartphone.
  • Alexey Lobanov
    Alexey Lobanov April 29 2020 14: 36 New
    +2
    For training at training grounds - a very SAFE grenade, in contrast to the old models. Grenade throwing is a regular training point for fighters of the Russian Guard, at least OMON. For training, the figure of 57 thousand does not look so big anymore (for reference, from open sources - in 2014 in Russia there were 160 OMON units, 40 thousand fighters).
  • bubalik
    bubalik April 29 2020 19: 31 New
    0
    ,, so everyone was excited request everything is open, they don’t hide anything, the WG buys a lot of things, everything is visible on the RosTender website.
    And that too laughing discuss?
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR April 29 2020 20: 43 New
    -2
    That's when these grenades fly into the crowds of protesters against the lawlessness of the authorities, and then everyone will think about why they were not indignant before. In the meantime, sleep calm country. There are no protests, the Russians are full, they are happy with their lives and incomes.
  • saygon66
    saygon66 April 29 2020 22: 01 New
    -1
    - The old grenades that ... Nothing better was found or are the warehouses cleaned?
    1. Alexey Lobanov
      Alexey Lobanov April 30 2020 00: 16 New
      0
      Quote: saygon66
      - The old grenades that ... Nothing better was found or are the warehouses cleaned?

      And what do you not like about these?
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 April 30 2020 12: 21 New
        0
        - Yes, they were already trying to supply them to the troops, back in the days of Afghanistan ... But something didn’t grow together there, the bombings were due to mistreatment, and F-ki and RGD-chi left them ... they threw them back in 98- m - so for sure ...