Declassified archival data on Nazi crimes in Crimea

Archival documents attesting to the atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices during the Great Patriotic War. The Federal Security Service handed over their copies to the state archive of the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol.

The press service of the FSB Directorate for Crimea and Sevastopol made such a message today for journalists.

Among the declassified documents there are letters, reports, interrogation protocols and other materials testifying to the criminal activities of the Nazis and their accomplices on the territory of Crimea during the years of occupation. The transfer of their copies to the State Archive of the Republic of Crimea and the Sevastopol City Archive took place as part of the project “Without a Statute of Limitations”. This project is aimed at perpetuating the memory of victims of Nazi criminals, making the genocide of the civilian population of Crimea public, and exposing the crimes of German fascists and their accomplices.

The Crimean peninsula was occupied from autumn 1941 to May 1944. Germans occupied Sevastopol in July 1942, and were driven out from there on May 9, 1944. All this time in the Crimea, a partisan movement and the underground actively operated. During the fighting during the defense and liberation of the peninsula, approximately 1 million people died!

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[Victor_B]

In 1982, as a tourist with a backpack, I walked part of the Crimea through the "partisan places".
Our instructor on the spot said that the partisan movement in Crimea was FULLY better!
At all!
Enormous help to the Nazis was provided by the Crimean Tatars, without whose help it would be impossible to destroy partisans.
As in Belarus and Ukraine.

[Tatyana]

Archival documents attesting to the atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices during the Great Patriotic War. The Federal Security Service betrayed their copies to the state archive of the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol.

The FSB services should have done this earlier.

[Dmitry Donskoy]

Such archives must be constantly published every day, not only in our publications and social networks, but also on Facebook, so that everyone remembers and knows who saved them from Nazism.

[mitroha]

That's right, and also translate into the main languages ​​of the world and translate translations in the same way into the network. So that people around the world have the opportunity to find out the truth, and not only what some claim to be the truth

[Lexus]

Enormous help to the Nazis was provided by the Crimean Tatars

A lot of riffraff participated in the privatization of the Great Victory and joined the ranks of the WINNERS. That causes nothing but disgust.

[cost]

Our instructor on the spot said that the partisan movement in Crimea was FULLY better!

But you did not ask the instructor who occupied the city of Karasubazar on April 13, 1944 and held it until the Soviet troops approached? And who on April 15, 1944 freed Alushta? And who liberated Yalta, Bakhchisaray, Simferopol?

[Lexus]

Dmitry, my respect.
I traveled to places of military glory and Soviet heritage in Crimea. My heart was bleeding. But the way they talked to the guide at the submerged base of the submarine in Balaklava stuck in my memory. He didn't want to let me go. This means that you need to know your own History and pass it on to future generations, and not hype in a selectively crossed out and corrected in a favorable light. "Seliger's instructors" are now pushing versions worse than Goebbels.

[IC]

The question is, from whom did the secret services keep this secret information for 75 years? How could she pose a threat to the country?

[bukhach]

I read memories of the Crimean partisan as a child, I don’t remember the name, it seems like they were there during the entire occupation, it’s another matter that they were pressed there so that they thought only of how to survive and not commit sabotage, I remember their hunger was strong among them, well, the Tatars, Of course, they were fierce.

[beeper]

We had in our home library books of memoirs of Crimean partisans (in childhood and adolescence I read them, read and reread, knew by heart the vicissitudes and names), publications of the late 50s and early 60s .... there was a lot of interesting things in them!
Open archives are good! I hope that they are not too censored and selectively "thinned out", otherwise for the allegedly "offended by the Soviet power" Hitler's accomplices from the "indigenous peoples" this truth is too inconvenient - under the Ukrainian government, one could not hope for openness!
Yes, and with the abandonment of Sevastopol, the Kerch assault forces (especially 41-42 years), the capture of the Crimea by the Nazis, and Adzhimushkay, not everything was so simple and unambiguous, because there was everything, not only mass heroism!
Even somehow I can’t believe that now all-all, without exception, these documents and documented evidence will be in the public domain and put into scientific circulation ?!
It is a pity that it is so late, when there are almost no living participants and witnesses "in memory" left, there is no one to clarify and cross-confirm what was immediately censored or for some reason omitted was not recorded !

[beeper]

Under the Soviet regime, for some reason they "took care of the peace" and "delicately reminded" the colloborators-local accomplices of the uninvited "all-European" occupants of their vile atrocities ??!
And this "delicacy" - "not reminding" and "hushing up" then all of us "went sideways" - Hitler's henchmen, even with the suggestion of Khrushchev and the Gorbachev gang of Judas, imagined themselves "heroes of the liberation struggle" and "unfairly offended", surreptitiously educated adherents - spawned gangs of neo-Banderites, Crimean Turkomans and even trained lawyers for crimes of a kind of "kolsurengoy" on the blue eye, "telling" on ukroTV that the "good Germans" allegedly wanted peace and "brought us civilization", and, they say, it was the soldiers of the Red Army who killed the population, burned and destroyed cities, including in the then Ukrainian SSR, like this -that they "did some delicacy" with Hitler's murderers ...!)!

[ccsr]

Quote: pishchak

It is a pity that it is so late, when there are almost no living participants and witnesses "in memory" left, there is no one to clarify and cross-confirm what was immediately censored or for some reason omitted was not recorded !

There is a very interesting book that was published after the collapse of the USSR and in which the author describes in detail the period of the occupation of Crimea and Kerch, i.e. what he saw with his own eyes and remembered for life. I will say that such truthful sources in memoirs do not happen so often - the author simply describes what he saw and does not need to whitewash himself, that is, he is objective.

The Tatars met our appearance calmly. We didn’t feel joy on the occasion of our arrival, but we didn’t show open hostility either ... The headman is aware of our appearance. Half an hour later he appeared in front of us. A stocky Azerbaijani with an unpleasant, angry face. He simply introduced himself, poking himself in the chest with his finger: "Ali!" Ali was dressed in German military uniform with soldier's epaulettes. The uniform sat on it beautifully, as if sewn to order. He led us to the house, standing alone on a hill on the opposite side of the entrance to the village. The biggest house in the village. The house consisted of four rooms. In the past, these rooms were elementary school classes. One of the rooms was occupied by a former school teacher with his wife; they did not have children. He kept a small farm: chickens, two dozen sheep. He also had a dog, huge, with colorless eyes, nicknamed Rugai. We began to settle down. After the concentration camp and the freight car, these were the royal chambers! Our family occupied one room, a large one, on the contrary, Uncle Mikhail's family settled down, on the side - Alexei and his comrades.

Kerch on fire
Peter Kotelnikov

[knn54]

Victor Petrovich. Before talking about Belarus and Ukraine, read about the Lokot republic. This "autonomy of traitors" was nowhere else.

[lwxx]

Quote: knn54

Victor Petrovich. Before talking about Belarus and Ukraine, read about the Lokot republic. This "autonomy of traitors" was nowhere else.

Autonomy ”covered the area of ​​eight districts (modern Brasovsky, Dmitrievsky, Dmitrovsky, Komarichsky, Navlinsky, Sevsky, Suzemsky and Zheleznogorsk districts), now divided between the Bryansk, Oryol and Kursk regions .Well, where is Belarus and Ukraine here?

[jekasimf]

This is NOT true. My grandfather was a partisan. After the arrival of Kr. Aamia, he became a lieutenant.

[Aviator_]

Well, your instructor got a little excited about the complete elimination of partisans in Crimea. There is a book "900 days in the mountains of Crimea", the author - A.A. Sermul, Simferopol Publishing House 2004

There is also about the Tatars - when the pilot Amet Khan Sultan was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union, a group of partisans was sent to Alupka to take out his relatives, since the Germans destroyed all the relatives of the Heroes. However, the relatives of Amet Khan of the Sultan were all in the Tatar Sonderkommando, the partisans barely got out of there.

[New Year day]

Quote: Aviator_

However, the relatives of Amet Khan of the Sultan were all in the Tatar Sonderkommando

brother! in the 44th, after liberation, because of him they wanted to evict the whole relatives of Akhmet Khan. Only due to the fact that Ahmet Khan himself arrived on a visit, deportations managed to escape

[Aviator_]

But didn’t your brother have anything for collaboration?

[Avior]

It was arrested after the war
You can meet the opinion that he went to the police because the Germans could have shot the family for a brother who was well known during the war.
But after the war, it was not only those who collaborated with the police who were amused
They also deported those who fought in partisans and in the Red Army at the front.

[Aviator_]

They were all evicted because the partisans would not carefully deal with the Tatars and their families - if the Tatars destroyed the whole partisan family, then the partisans could well destroy the whole Tatar family, then they did not apply to the Hague Tribunal.

You can meet the opinion that he went to the police because the family could be shot

This was invented later to justify betrayal.

They sent those who fought in partisans

From the autumn of 1943 they trampled on partisans to atone for sins, when Crimea was blocked by the Red Army, I already wrote about this.

[New Year day]

I also read this.

[New Year day]

Quote: Aviator_

But didn’t your brother have anything for collaboration?

when Ahmet Khan tried to solve the problem on the spot, they decided to transfer him himself. 2 stars of the Hero and the authorities stopped the rink. I have long read, brother, if not mistaken, no longer touched.

[Avior]

in my opinion, they still sent the parents, and Akhmet Khan himself was forbidden to live in Crimea, then it was canceled.
but I could be wrong.

[New Year day]

Quite possible. Need to read

[Aviator_]

when Ahmet Khan tried to solve the problem on the spot, they decided to transfer him himself.

Is it possible to source information?

[ccsr]

Quote: Silvestr

brother! in the 44th, after liberation, because of him they wanted to evict the whole relatives of Akhmet Khan.

Then not all Tatars were evicted, and those who did not cooperate with the Germans, who had mixed marriages or had relatives who distinguished themselves in the Red Army, were allowed to stay in Crimea. Even in the partisan detachments there were Tatars, so their families were not deported. Just a lot of speculation was about their expulsion, and they don’t mention that not all Tatars were evicted, especially in the cities of Crimea.

[New Year day]

Quote: ccsr

not all Tatars were evicted

In addition to the Tatars and other nationalities were evicted, it is necessary to refresh

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Victor_B

Our instructor on the spot said that the partisan movement in Crimea was FULLY better!
At all!

Not that it would have been eliminated; Crimean underground and partisans had to leave the peninsula for a while. I read the memoirs of the leader of the Crimean underground, I have already forgotten a lot, but yes, the Tatars actively helped the Germans and Romanians.

[Alexga]

Ilya Vergasov wrote in detail about the partisan movement in Crimea. Honestly, this is what outrages. The Crimean Tatars, for the most part, very much supported the occupation regime, they sent them to the Crimea with good reason, what was the matter. Not everyone was expelled, I must say. Almost 70 years ago this was considered and it is believed that it was fair. But why in 2014, after the return of Crimea, the first persons to repent before the Crimean Tatars for the fact that they were deported illegally. Damn, disgusting! This is a direct rewrite of the history of the Second World War!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: AlexGa

Ilya Vergasov wrote in detail about the partisan movement in Crimea.

I looked around here. What I read was the work of the leader of the underground Ivan Kozlov "In the Crimean underground", published already in 48. But republishing, as I understand it, was banned, either, so that the Tatars would not offend, or because the author was a Stalin Prize laureate.

[Alexga]

Vladimir, at your prompt, downloaded this book. It is an interesting topic and it’s good that the 48-year-old edition did not have time to lacquer events, like many books about the War. You will learn many new moments in our History.

[Aviator_]

I have this book. Kozlov, an underground worker with pre-revolutionary experience, knew perfectly the rules of conspiracy, was personally acquainted with Lenin. Many of our failures were due to their youth and recklessness. The clandestine organization at the Simferopol railway station was therefore routed.

[amr]

Maybe because my grandfather is a Crimean Tatar guard major of the Red Army ??
and also all the grandfathers of the relatives of the relatives fought, in the beginning of the war all the combat-ready population was called up and went to the front !!
Deported the elderly, women and children !!!
All small nations were evicted, not only the Tatars!

[Dog]

Quote: amr

my grandfather Crimean Tatar Guard major of the Red Army ??

How did he feel about the collaborationism of his fellow tribesmen?

[amr]

Like the Russians to his collaborationists, he was at the front, went into the army in the 39th year, and returned the current to 46, still finishing Bendera ...

but you know where he returned? to Uzbekistan, but he now had a homeland there!
and now, according to the documents of the rehabilitated, all the front-line soldiers are not rolling - they were not deported, they went there from the front !!!

and this is the entire male population of the Tatars, because if there were traitors, then they were all caught and shot, no one at that time clucked with traitors!

[Dog]

Quote: amr

but you know where he returned? to Uzbekistan, but he now had a homeland there!

All under one comb?

[Aviator_]

The Crimean Tatars were rescued by deportation from the imminent revenge of the partisans, who had excellent weapons and were not afraid of anyone. The answer for their atrocities would be terrible.

[Elephant]

Quote: Aviator_

Crimean Tatars rescued by deportation from imminent revenge of partisans

Saved from revenge returning to the Crimea after the Victory in the 45th soldiers of the Red Army.

[Aviator_]

Naturally, the surviving partisans were drafted into the Red Army. After the Victory, they could very well begin to ask the former neighbors about their assistance to the Victory.

[Hyperborean]

This is nonsense. Do not believe it.

[AAK]

Not really, colleague. I say absolutely objectively (my father fought in the 17th detachment, and my uncle fought in the reconnaissance of the headquarters of the Northern compound of the partisans of Crimea), after giving the Germans the absolute majority of bases with stocks of food, ammunition and medicine, the number of active units in the Northern and Southern formations decreased several times (up to several hundred people, by the end of 1943 - already several thousand), but the completely partisan movement in Crimea was NEVER liquidated. The main reason for this reduction is banal hunger (my father told me that for about 2 months they had ONE pumped dried corn in their squad for 1,5-2 days. Some more game was caught in the forests, but only by snares, sticks or stones, it was impossible to shoot ... Since 1943, it has become a little easier, they dropped something on parachutes, learned to grow something themselves, took something from the local population)

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Our instructor on the spot said that the partisan movement in Crimea was FULLY better! .... shoot your instructor, then clone and count. the partisan movement in Crimea ended after the liberation of Sevastopol.

[Pvi1206]

Why are archives classified? ... It is clear that this is done by the authorities ... Obviously, the documents contained in the archives do not always expose the authorities as white and fluffy ...

[ccsr]

Quote: Pvi1206

Obviously, the documents contained in the archives do not always expose power to white and fluffy ...

Not at all because they were simply afraid that they would begin to settle accounts with the relatives of those who served the Germans and distinguished themselves in atrocities. That is why they often do not open the case of the repressed, because there you can find denunciations and testimonies against those who later perished in the camps. With the prescription, all this will be discovered later, but for now even the red and white Cossacks still cannot forgive each other who fought against whom in the Civil and Patriotic War.

[Kuzmitsky]

And the processing, systematization of all these old documents also takes time and effort. Enumerate, view, re-read, copy, translate something.

[Avior]

it is unlikely
after the war, the traitors were judged in public, no one hid anything.

[Aviator_]

Not everyone then managed to expose.

[Avior]

Nevertheless, no one bothered that they would settle accounts with relatives
On the contrary, they did it as publicly as possible.

[ccsr]

Quote: Avior

it is unlikely
after the war, the traitors were judged in public, no one hid anything.

In addition to the traitors, there were many who simply worked for the Germans in the occupied territories or voluntarily left to work in Germany for money, and then returned back. I lived in a city where the people of the sixties who survived the occupation remembered who went out with flowers to meet Germans and Romanians - so it was not so simple then. There is a very interesting book by a man who described the occupation of Crimea well and how a simple teenager perceived everything then:

Two months after the liberation of Kerch, an open trial was held over the leadership of the Kerch MTS. Witnesses were ordinary workers: locksmiths, turners, mechanics. My father was assigned to the same category of participants in the process. I personally knew all the defendants, because I often visited my father when he worked in this MTS as chief accountant. It was clear to me that these people were not inveterate enemies of the Soviet regime. Their aiding was forced, passive. They became victims of prevailing circumstances and political thoughtlessness, which mixed with ordinary human greed. The decision made by the director of MTS Dregalev was correct: put the equipment into operation and use German fuel for sowing winter crops. From rural communities, former collective farms, payments were made in kind - grain and flour. Dregaliev died suddenly in the summer, his place was taken by the chief mechanic Bespaly. The contract continued, flour poured in bags into the homes of the leaders, while ordinary MTS employees received a modest supplement to rations determined by the German authorities. My father’s share was no less than that of the rest of the enterprise’s leaders, but his bags of flour disappeared on the way home, distributing flour to the families of former MTS employees who served in the Red Army. The authorities exchanged flour for values. My mother grumbled at my father, comparing our humble life with the lives of other members of the leadership. Now everything has come out. The employees of the MGB carried out a long painstaking work, figuring out the details of very quiet cases that did not cause damage to the Soviet regime. The defendants were reminded of this at the hearing. They also recalled how they were fleeing the Soviet regime in cars loaded with junk ... They were reminded of their exceptional diligence in preparation for sending agricultural machines to Germany. They were not sent, but leadership was not in it. Interrogating my father at the trial, the state prosecutor asked the question: “Explain to the court how the disruption of sending tractors and combines to Germany was carried out?” Father replied: “The Klindukhov locksmith came to me and asked what to do? I told him that everything must be done so that the cars were not sent! The Germans will leave, what will we raise the earth with? I do not understand the technique, but I think that there are such parts, small in volume, without which the machine will not work. Everything needs to be done subtly so that Fisher does not notice. Moreover, it is necessary not to suspend work, but to make it even more intense so that the manager, a German, sees how well you work! ” “And weren't you afraid? - the prosecutor asked a question. “I was afraid, but hoped that in a hurry of fees, the Germans would not be up to us.” Question to the defendant, chief mechanic: “Have you heard the witness’s response? Explain why the locksmith went to the chief accountant, and not to you, who is responsible for the equipment? ” The main mechanic, spreading his arms, answered: “I don’t know!”. The room of the office where the trial was held was completely filled with people. I listened and was proud of my father. “How clever he is,” I thought, “he foresaw everything!” If he had obeyed his mother, he would have sat next to the accused. ”

"Kerch on fire"
Peter Kotelnikov

[Avior]

Agriculture in the occupied territories worked for the Germans in most cases, only collective farms changed their name.
There, every second could be imprisoned for cooperation with the Germans.
Contrary to the well-known plan of Ost, schools in some regions operated with teachers, according to Soviet textbooks with cut out or filled out pages with inappropriate text.
Almost completely railway workers worked for the Germans.
And many others, too, many of them had no particular choice - the Germans did not stand on ceremony.
But they couldn’t plant everyone; there would be no one to work.
Therefore, probably the orders were- how many enemies need to be exposed.
If you really came across killers, those, of course, were judged immediately, but if they didn’t come across, they moved on to other categories.
In your case, we see that the chief mechanic is being judged.
If you read it, it’s clear why the locksmith went to the accountant (by the way, for some reason, this is not asked by the locksmith himself or the father of the hero of the story, although this is logical, but by the mechanic who does not know about it)
Because if the Germans got their hands on why they thwarted the dispatch, the first to be shot would be not a locksmith, not an accountant, but just the chief mechanic.
Please note, the war is in full swing, all the former policemen whose hands are really up to the blood, remained completely in the liberated territory, they still caught many before the 80s, there are clearly not enough investigators, and at this moment the investigators are busy with what?

The employees of the MGB carried out a long painstaking work, figuring out the details of very quiet cases that did not cause damage to the Soviet regime.

Maybe such ones at that moment did not have to be painstakingly conducted?

[Avior]

by the way

Two months after the liberation of Kerch, an open trial took place

The employees of the MGB carried out a long painstaking work, finding out the details of very quiet cases that did not cause damage to the Soviet regime. The defendants were reminded of this at the hearing.

MGB was formed in 1946

[ccsr]

Quote: Avior

MGB was formed in 1946

The People’s Commissariat of Homeland Security was created in 1941. The author, a teenager, simply might not have known all the intricacies of the then reformation of the NKVD, subsequent associations, and most likely simply used the more recent data.

[Avior]

there is clearly the MGB.
Did the author write a book as a teenager?
But at the time of the events, the author could not know such a word.

[ccsr]

Quote: Avior

there is clearly the MGB.
Did the author write a book as a teenager?

He did not describe the history of the NKVD, but the NKGB existed from 1943 to 1946, so if you remove the word "ministry" from the name of the MGB, and replace it with "people's commissariat" in the name of the NKGB, it turns out that the author just used a later terminology, but the essence the events of 1944 were presented correctly. The NKGB was conducting an investigation - what does not suit you in this fact?

[Looking for]

So much for the price of such "memories"

[Avior]

The award sheets for the well-known partisans - Fedorov, Saburov, Kovpak for conferring the ranks of the GSS are classified. What could be there that was classified ?!

[jekasimf]

The matter is not in the authorities, but in the Tatars. They were the servants of the Nazis. And here, to sow ethnic hatred.

[New Year day]

Quote: jekasimf

It’s not the power, but the Tatars, who were the servants of the Nazis

From a memo from the Deputy People's Commissar of State Security of the USSR B.Z. Kobulov and the Deputy People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the USSR I.A.Serov addressed to L.P. Beria, dated April 22, 1944:
“... All those called up to the Red Army amounted to 90 thousand people, including 20 thousand Crimean Tatars ... 20 thousand Crimean Tatars deserted in 1941 from the 51st Army when it retreated from the Crimea ...”
Erich von Manstein: “... the majority of the Tatar population of Crimea was very friendly towards us. We even managed to form armed self-defense companies from the Tatars, whose task was to protect their villages from attacks by partisans hiding in the Yaila mountains. The reason is that from the very beginning a powerful partisan movement developed in Crimea, which caused us a lot of trouble ... "
“The Tatars immediately took our side. They saw in us their liberators from the Bolshevik yoke, especially since we respected their religious customs ... "
As of June 1, 1943, there were 262 people in the Crimean partisan detachments, of which 145 were Russians, 67 Ukrainians, and ... 6 Tatars

[Aviator_]

As of June 1, 1943, there were 262 people in the Crimean partisan detachments, of which 145 were Russians, 67 Ukrainians, and ... 6 Tatars

According to Sermul (900 days in the mountains of the Crimea), the Tatars began to curry favor with the partisans and trampled against them in the hope of receiving forgiveness from the fall of 1943, when Crimea was cut off from the mainland, and even the most stupid Tatar realized that the war would not end at all as Dr. Goebbels said.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Pvi1206

Why are archives classified? ... It is clear that the authorities are doing this ..

The authorities in all countries classify information. Even insignificant, and not related to "military secrets." From the point of view of power, people only need to know what they are allowed to know. The same thing happened and is happening in the USA, and in Europe, and in the USSR (now Russia), and in China, absolutely everywhere. Such is the internal nature of power, so to speak, a specific feature, to keep everything secret.

[Alex Justice]

In England there is a law, after 50 years, documents must be made public.
Is there such a law in Russia?

[orionvitt]

Quote: Alex Justice

In England there is a law, after 50 years, documents must be made public.

What nonsense are you talking about. Let them first declassify the Rudolf Hess case, which has been extended to a hundred years. How, otherwise, people will learn a lot about the real reasons for the outbreak of World War II. This is so, the first example that came to mind, but if you dig around? What the hell is this fashion, like "and they have there." They have things there that will not seem a little.

[Aviator_]

They kept the Hess case secret for another 25 years, I think.

[Avior]

The Hess case has been declassified for a long time, the latest documents were published in 2017, they did not concern Hess himself, these were proposals from the British to the USSR to release Hess for humanitarian reasons from the time of Margaret Thatcher.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Avior

Hess case declassified for a long time

What are you talking about? That Hess was in Spandau prison? So everyone knew about it. Let them declassify the interrogation protocols of Hess, after his flight to England, in 1940. Except that gum, like "I wanted to negotiate a peace." And they will also explain the mysterious "suicide" after he announced that he would tell something about the secret affairs of the "Western allies" and the "Third Reich". Don't be naive, we will never be told the truth. At least in our life.

[Avior]

can give a link which documents are not disclosed, without conspiracy thesis only.
Everyone writes that they revealed, he was also tried at the Tribunal

[orionvitt]

Quote: Avior

Everyone writes that they revealed

The Hess case is, in fact, a secret behind the seven seals, which the British will stubbornly guard. What was declassified is archival garbage that does not matter. A couple of years ago, I remember for sure, there was infa that the British extended the term for the Hess case, either by 50 years, or until 2050. If I find, I’ll throw off the link. Many secrets in this matter.

[AAK]

It’s not about the power, or not so much about the power ... In the late 1980s, “Krymskaya Pravda” published EMNIP 1 or 2 articles about the situation in Crimea in the period 1942-1944, very tough, with extensive use of the archive of the Crimean regional committee, a whole cycle was planned, but in my opinion, after the second article, the publications stopped ... then a massive return of the Crimean Tatars began, the leadership began to fear the real possibility of clashes ...

[FIR FIR]

"During the fighting in the defense and liberation of the peninsula, about 1 million people died!"
This is the expensive price our grandfathers paid for this land.
This is our land!

[Looking for]

judging by the fact. how the Tatars in the Crimea are behaving now. they don’t think so.

[A. Privalov]

From whom have they been kept secret for 75 years?
I can assume that nobody can get into these archives today. They will begin to require some permissions, tolerances, the archive will work for a shorter time, copying documents will be a problem. I repeat, this is only an assumption. I would be very happy if it turns out that this is not so. My fellow soldier lives in Crimea. Share impressions.

[orionvitt]

Quote: A. Privalov

that nobody can get into these archives even today. They will start to require some permissions, permissions, the archive will work for a shorter time, copying documents will be a problem.

Have you tried? Those who need it badly have no problem. (judging by the assurances of those who really need and who are engaged in historical research). It is clear that there is absolutely classified information, but there is not much of it in comparison with the total volume. It's just that in our time, everyone is accustomed to referring to Wikipedia, but no one will deign to raise their ass and go to the archive, look through the documents. It's easier to say that "everything is classified", or "you need to write a permit."

[A. Privalov]

Quote: orionvitt

Have you tried?

I tried more than once. And in the USSR still, and after. Not this archive, of course, but the Russian State Military Historical Archive, for example. Addressed on the topic of the First World War. I didn’t need any secrets. Cases of quartermaster and quartermaster. I then wrote a thesis to one brow. Received a polite refusal. Everything was found in another country - the former republic.
Russian State Archive of Literature and Art. Here I was generally looking for materials about a children's writer. Received a boorish refusal ...
I will not blame everyone. There are very good and responsible employees in a number of archives and museums. Many volunteers. For a small and quite feasible reward, students of the Historical Archival Institute help.
I used the services and libraries of Congress. There is a huge archive with the Russian department. Such bindery periodicals, which in Russia have long gone on a stick. Everything is completely free. You can pre-order a catalog of documents on a topic of interest, work with it, then request the required storage units. When it is ready, they will inform. Usually two to three days. In difficult cases, a week. You need to tell when you can be there. By this time, everything will be prepared. Annual subscription 20 green (in 2006). If a schoolchild or student is free. So, I know what I'm talking about.

[Elephant]

Quote: A. Privalov

From whom have they been kept secret for 75 years?

From his people of course.

[Mountain shooter]

Secret archives, most likely, so that lynching did not do over the Tatars. Yes, and evicted them away. And even the partisans who survived remained, and veterans from the war, and there were plenty of weapons in their hands ... and when Khrushchev returned them, or rather, did not return them, but stopped banning them from returning ... so he returned the Bandera men. How could he - amnesty Bandera, and offend the Tatars?

[Lord of the Sith]

The Tartars in Crimea still burn up for the redeployment of people to Kazakhstan and Siberia after their mass betrayal. So do not even think to discuss this topic with them))

[jekasimf]

Let them burn. These are their problems. We need to talk and remember.

[Lord of the Sith]

As the saying goes, keep your mouth shut, but keep in mind. Forewarned is forearmed.

[AU Ivanov.]

So this relocation by Stalin was an act of humanism. Instead of a military tribunal - eviction. Instead of a firing squad - Kazakhstan. That's because the monster Joseph Vissarionovich.

[Looking for]

that. hear how it didn’t work out? yes they had to obstruct 200 years old. And THAT COMPLETE STEEL.

[Lord of the Sith]

That you pissing younger. If not, go to the Crimea and arrange obstruction for 200 years.
I'll see.

[businessv]

During the fighting during the defense and liberation of the peninsula, approximately 1 million people were killed!

It’s a sin in Radonitsa not to remember all those who laid down their lives for their homeland! Everlasting memory!

[Sasha Minakov]

Why secret them?

[Jager]

He was in Brest and was in Adzhimushka. Brest is heroism and tragedy. Adzhimushkay is heroism and horror. I have not seen a more nightmare place. Who will be in the Crimea, be sure to visit the Adzhimushkay quarry museum. HOW there it was possible to hold the defense I can not imagine. Without food, water and light, without medical care, in the grave cold. They still dig and find documents, skeletons, equipment ... And how many have not yet been found. And who they found was buried in the catacombs.
The best way to straighten the brains of the pot-heads and our "we can repeat" is to take away the lanterns in the caves and throw a smoke bomb in pursuit. Whoever crawls back in a couple of days will definitely remain gray. Eternal memory to the defenders.

[Dog]

Quote: Jager

pick lanterns in caves

In a cave without a flashlight, of course, not everyone can keep their composure. I remember there was such an "attraction" in the quarries of the Moscow region, when people were taken to spend the night without flashlights. An acquaintance visited - told interesting things later. It was not for nothing that in the old days only really strong-minded monks were blessed for such asceticism as life in caves.
But, the main horror of the situation of those fighting in Adzhimushkaysky quarries is not in the absence of lanterns and in difficult living conditions in the caves, as such, but in the fact that more than ten thousand people, including women and children, were condemned to death by fascist animals, who closed the light to the defenders of the quarry at the end of the tunnel.

[Mabius]

Among the declassified documents there are letters, reports, interrogation protocols and other materials testifying to the criminal activities of the Nazis and their accomplices on the territory of Crimea during the years of occupation.

I even know what kind of documents these are .. Many current kolobarzionists really don’t like them .. But you can’t keep silent!

[akarfoxhound]

It’s not clear - why were 75 years old shy to show!

[amr]

Quote: ccsr

Not at all because they were simply afraid that they would begin to settle accounts with the relatives of those who served the Germans and distinguished themselves in atrocities.

Do not carry nonsense, they yourself were immediately shot!

[ccsr]

Quote: amr

Do not carry nonsense, they yourself were immediately shot!

The war criminals who served with the Germans were shot, and their relatives did not fall under the tribunal, and they were simply evicted from the Crimea so that there would be no lynching. As for the Crimean Tatars, practically all the inhabitants of the countryside must have served the Germans, because it freed them from the seizure of livestock and property and provided benefits, which is why the Crimean people hated them. But even then, not all of them were criminals:

We became friends with the Tatars, some sons served in the Red Army, others were awarded orders and medals in Soviet times. Now the Tatars emphasized these facts, as if in some way justifying themselves. The relationship between us and the headman didn’t work out. The result was a short-term raid of the Germans who came from Ichkov.

[amr]

Quote: Victor_B

Enormous help to the Nazis was provided by the Crimean Tatars, without whose help it would be impossible to destroy partisans.
As in Belarus and Ukraine.

So in Belarus and Ukraine there were no Crimean Tatars, who helped the Germans there?

The Tatars were deported mainly by the elderly women and children, because all the men were at the front, of course, someone ran to the Germans, just like one of the Russians ran the rest, we still remember about the Vlasov Army
My grandfather of the guard is a major in the Red Army, there are many partisans of the Tatars ...
so do not carry nonsense!

[Avior]

An article by a Crimean historian in the Bulletin of St. Petersburg University on the partisan movement in Crimea. There were enough problems.
https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/partizanskoe-dvizhenie-v-krymu-v-gody-velikoy-otechestvennoy-voyny/viewer

[amr]

Quote: ccsr

As for the Crimean Tatars, practically all the inhabitants of the countryside must have served the Germans, because it freed them from the seizure of livestock and property and provided benefits,

Hello and why collectivization has not touched the Crimea? cattle and livestock was a yard 1 cow 10 hens ..... and I repeat all the combat-ready population drafted into the red army!
Also, do not forget the Crimean forests, it’s not Belarus or endless loess ... this can be said woodlands, there isn’t much to be buried!

Well, what a thrill is it always someone to blame for betrayal, why at these moments everyone forgets about the Russian, Ukrainian policemen? about the Vlasov army?