Strange reaction to the approach of IL-38 to the aircraft carrier "George Washington" of the US Navy

The network discusses some oddities associated with the approach of the Russian IL-38 anti-submarine aircraft to the US carrier George Washington aircraft carrier. The video is published on the FighterBomber channel.

The first fighters were lifted into the air when the aircraft of the Russian Navy was about 16 nautical miles (less than 30 km) from the aircraft carrier. By and large, the approach of the aircraft at such a distance meant the possibility of unhindered shelling of the target in the form of an aircraft carrier and its wing.

At the same time, for the fighters, which were eventually sent to intercept, a lot of difficulties arose. The main one was the speed parameters of the movement of the Russian anti-submarine aircraft.

Fighter F / A-18 Hornet and F-15 had to move at the minimum speed limit in order to escort the IL-38.

Judging by the video, it was especially difficult for the F-15, which was rising from the airfield of one of the US military bases. You can recall a recent video where, due to the difference in speed, the Polish F-16 had to produce a landing gear in the air to intercept Russian aircraft. In the case of the American F-15, this was avoided, however, the fighter had to pretty much lower its tail, slowing down to a minimum.

Another strange thing is that the pair of carrier-based fighters that accompanied the IL-38 "in shifts" took off from an aircraft carrier without missile weapons, which are usually shown when intercepting an air target. Experts have already joked about this, noting that American pilots apparently became great pacifists and decided to act exclusively with a “kind word” and a “prayer in the eyes”.

This belated reaction from the wing of the US Navy suggests that the US side was, to put it mildly, not quite ready for the appearance of a Russian anti-submarine aircraft near its ship. In turn, this may indicate certain problems aboard the aircraft carrier George Washington.

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[tuts]

Now again, Americans will begin to flood about the non-professional actions of our pilots

[Stalllker]

Most likely, they will also add that, again, because of our non-professional actions, the pilots did not have time to throw missiles))))

[letinant]

I'm not a fan of Americans, but if you look closely. AIM-9X hang on the wingtips, under the right nacelle of the AIM-120 AMRAAM engine. Let's not underestimate the enemy. But what they splashed over our plane is their tradition. And I, personally, am glad that they were dunked in IKHNEY, by the ears.

[x.andvlad]

In general, we do not let each other get bored. Even such "friends" behind the ear, but to the museum ...

[Navat]

And besides, one Vulcan gun in this case is also enough. By the way, in the Israeli Air Force it was considered particularly chic to bring down a MIG from a cannon.

[novel66]

yes, a target like IL-38, quite a volcano in the teeth

[Charik]

taking into account the fact that Il flew alongside the Avik, they could also work anti-aircraft guns and away rim seasparrow, and if necessary, even at the launch distance, possible X35 of which 2 pieces can carry Il

[Alexander mosin]

Quote: novel xnumx

yes, a target like IL-38, quite a volcano in the teeth

One salvo in the tail, wing, or cockpit is enough.

[novel66]

Well, not a salvo, turn .. cut-offs. 50 shells

[vfwfr]

And yes and no ... It is not a problem to destroy the Il-38 with a fighter's aircraft cannon, the problem will be if, a second before ..., the Il-38 throws off the "load" ... In other words, the Americans are used to it, and we are not the first to answer after the 1st slap in the face .. and even then not always ...
(I think so civil)

[letinant]

Quote: Navat

And besides, one Vulcan gun in this case is also enough. By the way, in the Israeli Air Force it was considered particularly chic to bring down a MIG from a cannon.

Israeli pilots are good specialists, but who told you about CHIC? Is the pilot of the army of Israel? The battles of the Israeli Air Force and the Arab coalition took place over the front line, which was controlled by air defense on both sides of the front line. There was no time for CHIC. When ours pulled up the S-125 and destroyed in some ambushes about 6-7 aircraft (I can’t remember the exact number), the Israeli Air Force engaged in direct support, i.e. beyond the front line did not fly. Accordingly, there was no air combat, as the fighters of the Arab coalition covered important objects (they were to help air defense). And about the guns well remembered.

[Navat]

Quote: letinant

Quote: Navat

And besides, one Vulcan gun in this case is also enough. By the way, in the Israeli Air Force it was considered particularly chic to bring down a MIG from a cannon.

Israeli pilots are good specialists, but who told you about CHIC? Is the pilot of the army of Israel? The battles of the Israeli Air Force and the Arab coalition took place over the front line, which was controlled by air defense on both sides of the front line. There was no time for CHIC. When ours pulled up the S-125 and destroyed in some ambushes about 6-7 aircraft (I can’t remember the exact number), the Israeli Air Force engaged in direct support, i.e. beyond the front line did not fly. Accordingly, there was no air combat, as the fighters of the Arab coalition covered important objects (they were to help air defense). And about the guns well remembered.

During the famous air battle between the Soviet and Israeli air forces, which took place on July 30, 1970, over the Suez Canal, the first MIG-21 was shot down by the Mirage cannon fire

[letinant]

During the famous air battle between the Soviet and Israeli air forces, held on July 30, 1970 over the Suez Canal, the first MIG-21 was shot down by the Mirage cannon fire [/ quote]
Did the Soviet Air Force fight over the Suez Canal in 1970? What is CHIC, shoot down one plane and that's it? Now, if the Israeli aces took into battle only shells for the cannons and left air-to-air missiles at the base. KLA planes were flying across the sky, then another question. And this is better than the North Vietnamese Air Force, tell me, there MIG-17 and MIG-19 with artillery weapons made a rustle among the Americans.

[Klingon]

forgot about Korea. and 37mm is not a Browning, there if it arrives so it arrives. B-29 after meeting with Fifteen was like plucked hens

[Jager]

Something with enviable regularity is the Israeli military. Or are they those who are bored on the Independence Square, cut off and repainted?

[Charik]

But is it that Il flew imperceptibly to the Avik, last week 2 Su24 and 2 Su fighter planes flew over Cook, also splashed? Everyone can fly over all this, since it’s not a war.

[KCA]

The IL-38 is, nevertheless, a PLO, and it hung somewhere next to something for a reason, well, for example, it could give target designation for a TU-22M3M with an X-32, or a completely fearful person, "Dagger"

[Charik]

How Il will give a TsU-laser backlight, I’m interested, I don’t know, and if Il shines on the Avik with something, they should also know that they are on the backlight and right away there is a command to shoot down Il, from the Avik air defense or planes that nearby, and by the way F15 if nearby - if it’s airdrome, then somewhere near the air base

[blackice]

I'm not a fan of Americans, but if you look closely. AIM-9X hang on the wingtips, under the right nacelle of the AIM-120 AMRAAM engine.

The only question is, video specifically from this event?
In addition, an article about 30 km of distance to an aircraft carrier is written, but the view is not at all 30 km.

[Charik]

Probably 30km before the Avik took the aircraft from the Avik itself to escort, and before that the 15th Eagle flew with Il

[blackice]

The article says that he approached 30 km.

[Spambox]

By the way, pay attention, our Il was accompanied by the wing commander himself (2 F18 in yellow, different from ordinary cars) and yet Aim 9X hang on the tips. So quite a peacefully respectfully parted ways.

[Charik]

Nevermind, this specialist, one by one, determines what kind of AIM9 — apparently the supermininanocomputer is installed in the eye, and each air group has its own airplane color — how to determine who the commander is flying there or his deputy?

[Spambox]

Google to help you, I do not intend to carry out educational program on coloring. I can only say that each air group, in addition to airplanes in standard color, has the same as we see in the video, the air group commander controls it.

[Charik]

What a specialist you saw 9X

[Charik]

In fact, it seems like they should be on duty on Avik a couple of 18x with bk-no?

[persei]

And which one is still shown on the IL-38 video, it’s not like that

[Hagalaz]

I really don’t know how a supersonic fighter behaves at low speeds. If really, not surely, then ours could still throw up speed). Although it may have done so, mocked?

[letinant]

Quote: Hagalaz

I really don’t know how a supersonic fighter behaves at low speeds. If really, not surely, then ours could still throw up speed). Although it may have done so, mocked?

Modern fighters, due to perfect aerodynamics, have a landing speed of approximately 270-250 km / h. About the same speed and the IL-38, maybe a little less. Believe me, if the F-18 (the first two on the video) is even more or less, then the F-15 with such clusters of pendants felt very uncomfortable.

[Hagalaz]

Thank. Interpreted.

[Charik]

Well, maybe 100km like a car, a heavy plane is less than 300km and at its peak

[Dog]

Quote: Hagalaz

ours could and still toss up speed)

It is necessary to "walk" on derezable to fly around. You can hover over the avik for a week - let them fly, "intercept", until the avik runs out of kerosene.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: tots

Now again, Americans will begin to flood about the non-professional actions of our pilots

Rather, the Poles will start pouring in. Like "the Americans were without missiles because they were so brave."

[Tuareg72]

so that's just the point with missiles! on both americos there are rockets on the wingtips.
And amerasy crap along the way. Looks like they were taught that after the Russian plane was shot down, its pilot can direct him to the nearest target.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Tuareg72

so that's just the point with missiles!

Yes. Saw. Either the article is yellowish, or the video is not that.
A muddy story, in short ...

[Charik]

no, the Poles will yell that the aircraft carrier is cooler than IL, and here we will argue how Avik sink one Il

[Sofa expert]

It was necessary for us to shuganut deck crew, go to the landing and topple at the last moment. Is there such a bike?

[smart ass]

Well, they wrote that Su 24 is useless against the destroyer, even against Avik is dangerous

[Charik]

VASYA!!! Call that uncle who drowned Cook for a week with X25mi then 29mi then 35mi, let him drown us Avik from Il.

[Stalllker]

They would take a ram without rockets if something really went wrong. And so, I think that it’s the military that doesn’t wait for any war, only politicians are screaming horribly;

[kjhg]

Quote: Stalllker

They would take a ram without rockets if something really went wrong.

And that the F-16 has no gun? He would have shot, if something happened, our Ilyusha, as at a training ground.

[Stalllker]

You didn’t read the article carefully, the pilot fu didn’t know how to slow down in order to fly in parallel. And if Ilyusha started the attack, then no matter what gun, the gun would knock down our ilyushka ????))))) it’s only in films that they can stop in the air like a car

[Kasym]

kjhg (Voroshilov shooter), this is F-18, not F-16.

[kjhg]

Quote: Kasym

kjhg (Voroshilov shooter), this is F-18, not F-16.

Kasym, thanks for tweaking it. I know that in naval aviation of the Yankees f18.

[Kasym]

kjhg, not at all.

[Charik]

and the photo is generally 15th

[Charik]

Here it is, the Voroshilov shooter doesn’t distinguish planes

[kjhg]

Quote: Charik

Here it is, the Voroshilov shooter doesn’t distinguish planes

Charik, unfortunately I distinguish. Moreover, the article writes aircraft models. Therefore, your attempt to stab me looks ridiculous. For my part, it was a banal carelessness.

[Charik]

I don’t have anything to pick out, I just corrected it, and in the articles they always write one thing, in the photo another, in the third video.

[Alexander mosin]

So in the article they write that they say Avik saw Il late and was not ready for something there! And conclusions about the problems on the avik .. But these are the next "khibiny" ..

[Tuareg72]

have you ever watched a video? or immediately vyser began to scribble? there are rockets on the Americans!

[zxc15682]

It was necessary to send the An-2. The Americans would definitely not expect such a goat. Although they can send a helicopter.

[Pavel73]

Get sick of intercepting :)

[dzvero]

They will intercept it, but how they will escort at a cruising speed of 190 km / h ...
By the way, during the Korean War, Po-2 "shot down" two American jet fighters - one collided and the other fell (http://www.airwar.ru/history/locwar/koreya/po2/po2.html).

[dzvero]

Single engine over a okiyan? There without back? Do you mind the pilots?

[Valery Valery]

Coronavirus penetrated airborne target detection system !!

[Alexander mosin]

Rather, in the heads of those who have written similar articles for a long time!)) Chronic coronovirus !!))

[Zhan]

Good morning everyone...
Accompanied without rockets?
This is a sure sign that they were definitely not going to fight .. And this is good, I hope the pilots greeted each other ..
After all, Americans understand when they want that we will never be the first to attack ..
In general, they will get a hat that let us get so close ...

[Sentinel-vs]

In the video presented, I do not even bother to see Sidewinders on the Hornet and Sidewinders + Amraam on the Needle. What unarmed aircraft are we talking about in the description?

[Yngvar]

It sounded cool "... on the Needle". Especially in the context of the attitude of the US military to drugs!

[Charik]

so there’s legalization, here about nariks in the British Navy there were already 2 cases at least, but about the American ones?

[Alexander mosin]

Quote: Yngvar

Especially in the context of the attitude of the US military to drugs!

Where on avik ?? With constant medical monitoring ?? Or are you straight from the late 60s, when there were similar problems?))

[Charik]

about unarmed Ile

[blackice]

Is the video and photo from THIS event exactly?
I can directly see how the pilot is holding a newspaper for April 28 in order to prove the exact date of the event.
So the question is open; either the pictures are not the same, or the author of the doorway ball (in English)

[Kurare]

Quote: Zhan

This is a sure sign that they were definitely not going to fight ..

Fly out to intercept - this is not a show on the barrel to twist. I’m almost sure that on the aircraft carrier the target was identified as IL-38 and that he probably does not pose a special threat to the same. And if the Russians came up with something tricky again and it was not IL-38, then what? Throw them threats and curses?

PS: the thread has already commented that the fighters had missile weapons. Don't underestimate "probable friends".

[Charik]

identified as IL-38 and that probably he doesn’t pose a special threat to the same F-18, they themselves understood what they wrote.

[Kurare]

Quote: Charik

... they themselves understood what they wrote.

Of course! Have you read or just pulled out pieces?
IL-38 is probably not a threat to the same F-18. But interception is a sortie and flying without weapons is stupid.

[Charik]

Il a priori can not be a threat to any fighter. And who is there without weapons? Clearly and clearly the majority examined the EFK missiles.

[NDR-791]

Quote: zxc15682

It was necessary to send the An-2. The Americans would definitely not expect such a goat. Although they can send a helicopter.

Not just send, but put on the deck. Perhaps they would be afraid to shoot down. And the picture will be ... a sight for sore eyes. It’s not even Rust.

[hydrox]

Listen, there’s nothing easier to make an unmanned aerial vehicle from Annushka and put it on the deck of an aircraft carrier with a box of, say, an antiseptic from Kovid-19 in public places and send it to an aircraft carrier with an escort from the Su-35 four.
First of all, the reaction of the military will be interesting: will they start attacking or go crazy?
And the price of the toy will be very low (to give students work to get practice)

[NDR-791]

So I about it

[rotmistr60]

the American side turned out to be mildly not quite ready to the appearance of the Russian anti-submarine aircraft near its ship

Everything is explained very simply - in the period of the 90s, the beginning of 2000, the Americans too relaxed and accustomed themselves to the idea that no one dares to approach the American ship, let alone fly over it. Therefore, in the situation that arises, they first understand how dare, then begin to make a decision.

[Crystal of Truth]

Maybe you don’t have to think up for others? Maybe they were just in the know what kind of plane it was and why it was flying, so they didn’t fuss too much?

[blackice]

Well then, you can’t even imagine that the plane was flying its course when he had an aircraft carrier on his course and Il had no purpose to get close to this suitcase.
So to say that here about whom thought up, it is possible about anyone. Even about me.

[Olddetractor]

Maybe they really wanted to look at him? After all, not every ten to fifteen years this succeeds ...

[Alexander mosin]

Quote: rotmistr60

Everything is explained very simply - in the period of the 90s, the beginning of 2000, the Americans too relaxed and accustomed themselves to the idea that no one dares to approach the American ship, let alone fly over it.

No, it is not explained. Until the 70s, Soviet and American pilots often staged such shows, until the Tu-16 crashed right in front of an American ship. Then there was a treaty that ended this dangerous practice. Accordingly, this action, if it was an action at all, such as with Sushki, and not just passing by, is a provocation.

[Doccor18]

The Americans acted according to instructions, realizing that this was just a farce. It was necessary to accompany, accompanied ....

[Alexander mosin]

Quote: Doccor18

It was necessary to accompany, accompanied ....

I think the story of the Su-24 over destroyers can be attributed to farce, and this Il just flew by when the Americans saw that the course went straight to Avik, they lifted their aircraft, as always, a routine. And the scribbler of this article fantasized about unnoticed Ilya and problems on Avik.

[akarfoxhound]

The manner of writing this "analytical" article with the correct use of terms and empty-sided conclusions speaks of the problems with the specialists in aviation at the VO.

[Dog]

Quote: akarfoxhound

talks about problems with specialists in aviation

"in aviation", in my opinion, you can even remove by putting a full stop after the word "specialists"

[Razvedka_Boem]

Another strange thing is that the pair of carrier-based fighters that accompanied the IL-38 "in shifts" took off from an aircraft carrier without missile weapons, which are usually shown when intercepting an air target.

The video shows perfectly the missiles at the wingtips of the Khornets and a whole arsenal of short-to medium-range air-to-air missiles at the Eagle.

[PilotS37]

Quote: Razvedka_Boem

The video shows perfectly the missiles at the wingtips of the Khornets and a whole arsenal of short-to medium-range air-to-air missiles at the Eagle.

The left "Shersh" is equipped with air defense missiles and medium-range missiles. "Seven" or "One hundred and twenty" - it is not clear: the sun shines.

[blackice]

The only question is, video specifically from this event?
In addition, an article about 30 km of distance to an aircraft carrier is written, but the view is not at all 30 km.

[A. Privalov]

Each time, after such incidents, I remember Uncle Sasha Pliev (blessed be the memory of him ...).

[Avior]

And at what distance from the ship do you need to intercept aircraft in peacetime?
And why is this necessary if there is no direct threat?

[mikhailovich22]

An anecdote as the IL-38 opposed the aircraft carrier

[ender]

not opposed, but won. all at once

[NDR-791]

Come on. He was looking for the AUG boat. And the decks loomed like cold-warmer-hot. Normal peaceful work together

[fn34440]

They play with us like a cat plays with a half-dead mouse, despite the joyful article.
And I remembered: The engine is good,
The steamer is good
A plane - nothing
And deer are better!

[Angrybeard]

The military is also bored with quarantine. Having fun as they can.

[Pattor]

A squeamish impression of the article. Dumb with slogans. Of all the commentators, only three noted, there were weapons on the Americans. Plus). Delirium is increasingly appearing in local spaces, alas

[Dog]

Quote: Pattor

Of all the commentators, only three noted that the weapons on the Americans were

Do you offer everyone to write about it? You know, some, before you write your comments - read by others

[blackice]

Of all the commentators, only three noted, there were weapons on the Americans.

Let's talk about nonsense. Is the video exactly from THIS case?
That is, in something you believe, there is no other, although it was laid out by one author.
That is, "believe-do not believe" you are selective. Where is the calendar visible in the video?
In addition, the article writes about an approximation of 30 km, the only video left is to sit on the deck.
Draw conclusions?

[Pvi1206]

There is a regular training ... we train them, they are us ... a game, no more ... do not respond to every sneeze ...

[Bez 310]

Who is the author of this "news", which was taken on the channel of the commercial propagandist "FighterBomber"? Well, okay, he wrote something about the fact that the AVM had failed to detect and "intercept" a pair of Il-38s in time, with his characteristic hat-handedness, but why repeat this nonsense? I see that a discussion on the possibility of the IL-38 to inflict damage on the AVM has already begun on the network. Please remember for yourself, and tell the rest of the "experts" that aerial reconnaissance of the AUG is carried out both for demonstrative purposes and in order to reveal design changes on the AUG ships. The task of a stealthy approach to the aerial reconnaissance object DOES NOT BECOME!

[Maks1995]

"In turn, this may indicate certain problems aboard the aircraft carrier George Washington."
Rather, it says there is no decent news.
And each such rapprochement causes a series of articles for 3-4 days.

Haha just do from afar to fly a plane without weapons, spend money. Someone in the warrant identified the plane, slowly picked up a couple to fly, train ....

[rotmistr60]

fn34440 (Faina Levin)
They play with us like a cat plays with a half-dead mouse, despite the joyful article.

Is this with the Americans? But judging by the end of your crying commentary, you had in mind Russia. Ms. (Mr.), you are so obsessed with American superiority that you do not even want to see what is happening in reality. I’m sorry, because where you will have to escape later - the Temple on the hill will turn out to be a fiction, and the country in which you live has managed to be cheated.

[Alexander mosin]

Quote: rotmistr60

fixated on American superiority that you don’t even want to see what is happening in reality.

So in reality, just superiority is multiple and not only numerical.

Quote: rotmistr60

The temple on the hill will be a fiction, and the country in which you live managed to cheat.

Do not you think that such a country is disgraced by articles such as this one, or about Drying with the Khibiny and Cook?

[mojohed2012]

Because it’s not the captain and boatswain who was vaccinated on board of this aircraft carrier, but the coronavirus and panic that kills the asses of sailors and pilots by cockpits, being afraid of getting infected.

[Alex_You]

Strange things are caused by articles of this kind, which were commonplace under the USSR, now almost a victory. And the oddities with the F-15? The author is looking for a dark cat in a dark room where there is none? Well flies itself ... And with:

Another strange thing is that the pair of carrier-based fighters that accompanied the IL-38 "in shifts" took off from an aircraft carrier without missile weapons, which are usually shown when intercepting an air target. Experts have already joked about this, noting that American pilots apparently became great pacifists and decided to act exclusively with a “kind word” and a “prayer in the eyes”.

It's just a hand face ... Gentlemen, experts are pecking their eyes and can’t see (for example, at 0:45) at the tips of the AIM-9, but near the outboard fuel boiler?

[ccsr]

Quote: Alex_You

Strange things are caused by articles of this kind, which were commonplace under the USSR, now almost a victory.

I completely agree with you, because at that time we followed them, and they followed us, and all this was routine work, when special attention was paid only to large-scale exercises of the enemy or to a sharply changed situation, when it was necessary to strengthen the intelligence forces on duty of different types of troops .

[Dog]

Quote: Alex_You

Gentlemen, experts peck in the eyes

What media, such and experts

[blackice]

Gentlemen, experts are pecking their eyes and do not see (for example, at 0:45) at the tips of the AIM-9, but near the outboard fuel tank?

Well, let's dive with you.
There is a concept - logic. Huh?
So, based on the article, the plane approached the aircraft carrier at a distance of 30 km.
What follows from here?
From here it follows that the video is not from this place of events.
Accordingly, the planes are not the same.
So you hurried about the experts, Holmes.

[TatarinSSSR]

On the F-18 were visible melee missiles on the wing tips. Plus an air gun. To defeat the screw low-speed this is enough with the head. So there was no talk of pacifism.

[iouris]

How little people need to be completely happy.

[va3610]

It’s their coronavirus that has been crippled, poor things.

[Super]

Well done our glaciers! Work brothers! For the boys!

[Charik]

Who are the glaciers? Who are flying on the ice? What kind of boys?

[seregatara1969]

And if An-2 flies unnoticed? Who will intercept him and how? If the height as above the field of corn is above the water, will the radar be able to see it before the watchman forward?

[Amborlakatay]

Come on already, the amer has missiles, they are clearly visible, at least 3, and the flight at low speeds of the fighter will look like this, even the F-15, even the Su-27, the question is not that we had to "lower the tail section" (sounds, of course ... the author is far from aviation) - flying at low speeds leads to an increase in the angle of attack for any aircraft, the question is how fast a fighter can fly at corners without risking a stall from the wing.

[ccsr]

This belated reaction from the wing of the US Navy suggests that the American side was, to put it mildly, not quite ready for the appearance of a Russian anti-submarine aircraft near its ship.

I think that this is fundamentally not the case - they have been flying the plane since the take-off, because the flights of such aircraft are tracked in real time.

In turn, this may indicate certain problems on board the aircraft carrier George Washington.

And this is not so - they just know the type of aircraft and its weapons well, that's why they didn’t make much fuss until he came very close to the aircraft carrier group.
In general, an article in the spirit of "we are very cool, and everyone faints from any of our aircraft," although in my opinion the Americans immediately realized that this was only a duty flight and no more, because they were monitoring the entire situation in the theater of operations, and if something serious, their reaction would be different.

[Super]

There will be mass layoffs again, as in the case of Donald Cook ... They will have a shortage of diapers ...

[Kushka]

Puppy enthusiasm about the alleged blunders of a potential enemy, often
themselves sucked from the finger - this is such a national know-how.
That is, if self-conceit is increasingly difficult to maintain in good shape
(having read Timokhin about the situation in naval aviation and Semenov about
what mess there) - we will write that drug addicts are Americans on the pedal
F-15 (with both left pedals) mocked the IL-38 and all of Mother Russia.
Is it a VO or a chamber of a special medical institution?

[Charik]

And what has to do with the site, he's just a publisher, anyone can write an article about - "On frogs from space with a laser from a satellite in France" and let people argue whether it will work out or not.

[Kushka]

What to do, for decades, read the Maritime Digest and Foreign
military review. That gi-gi-gi was not there. Not to mention the years
services - there were silhouettes of ships and aircraft of the enemy
everywhere - on the bridge, in the tower, in the wheelhouse, in the classroom. At the expense of time you
You give the performance characteristics of the carrier and its weapons. I remember the first days
we are citizens, snotty Komsomol members (1971 - Brezhnev, discharge,
disarmament, Helsinki). On the first build it’s cold
shower - from now on you throw out all this civilian nonsense
from the head. From this day you are warriors, but this and this is the ENEMY and you
every day they will learn to fight and defeat him.
"Yes, our flyers and flying at the gates will make these amers" - me
such a chatter is unbalanced.

[Charik]

-I think while these uncles are in power, there won’t be a war, no matter wherever any geeks would scream

[Dog]

Quote: Charik

-I think while these uncles are in power, there won’t be a war, no matter wherever any geeks would scream

I don't know what about the second, but about the first - the feeling that he will "please" the country more and more even without war

[Charik]

for most people, the president is to blame for all troubles

[Alexander mosin]

Not in all, but specific. Salaries, roads, living standards, science, industry, healthcare, and many others for which he bears, or should be responsible. As they say, called a cargo

[Charik]

-Uhahaha-Il fired at Avik and the air wing with a 30-km glance, maybe judging by the purpose of Il, or maybe bombed with sonar buoys, but Ukran 2, again, in a recent article about Burke (D. Cook), was also drowned 2 X35

[Oberon_13]

Actually, the 38th anti-submarine

[Charik]

Actually, Mother wrote

[Charik]

and indeed what is there to discuss here, look, it’s been all my life, everyone flies over everyone-http: //militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-511.html

[Charik]

this may indicate certain problems aboard the aircraft carrier “George Washington” —this is rather a problem for someone with the thought that such a machine as IL38 imperceptibly approached the avik.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

IL-38 can also be blocked from an air gun if desired, and missiles on the F-15 in my opinion can be seen in the photo.

[Garist Pavel]

All the same, they have beautiful technique. The perfect weapon of war. Terrible, but beautiful at the same time. But ours is still better))

[Super]

Our soldiers have spirituality. At the expense of it, we win.

[Kushka]

But ours is still better))
I’ve never been air, but judging by the photo of IL 38 from the inside at Semenov
vague doubts begin to torment.

[Mikhail3]

The ability to maneuver in speed is the most effective opportunity in aviation. Once outside the enemy’s speed range, you can achieve your goals almost unhindered. As a matter of fact, it was the realization of this indisputable fact that made the American military order F-22 for themselves, carefully play with F-35, and even deal with outright stupid things with various kinds of convertiplanes. Speed ​​range from 100 to 250 km / h gives great opportunities!
All military aircraft gradually slipped into fighter games. Everyone wants to be the fastest! Most somehow ignore the fact that the plane is not a device for setting records and funny catch-ups. According to the good, it’s time for the fighter to die out altogether - its niche is completely occupied by rocketry. Fighter has nothing to do over the battlefield! Ah, how it scratches the soul of aerobatics lovers at public expense ...
A plane, like a ship, must perform a combat mission. But this task should work to win the war, and not to increase the personal account of the brave pilot. First of all, airplanes should help other branches of the armed forces and cause damage to the enemy. Does figuring in high heaven contribute to the achievement of these goals with the destruction of other such flyers? Alas, in a very, very small degree.
But aviation is urgently needed in matters of destroying the ground enemy, primarily its trained manpower (the main value of the war is approximately equal), its warehouses, factories, other numerous infrastructure, the defeat of ships and ships ... Are high speed characteristics? Alas.
The detection and accurate defeat of trained enemy manpower from top speeds is either not possible at all, or it is possible at such a cost that no one in your economy can pull. Pour square kilometers of sea of ​​fire to destroy a group of 4-6 people - which even Americans do not pull, as they become more and more convinced.
Fly up to warehouses, factories, places of concentration at a VERY high speed, such that the air defense systems can’t cope? For an airplane, this is not possible. Not at all possible. Basically. To do this, there is a hypersonic weapon in which there is no place for the pilot - the overload is too high. So here, not too high speed is more useful. And the folds of the terrain will help, and maneuverability cannot be compared, and the weight of the car is several times less, so there is real, not mythical stealth, and the price in the end, which allows you to get twenty light and dangerous cars where they’re doing one now, is paradoxically different dangerous for the enemy ...
But all this I write, of course, in vain. Fans of flying and setting a record-two, if not themselves, so through subordinates, are invincible. So they will order high-speed junk. By the way, speed is an excellent indicator, understandable ... go and prove that your lightweight and maneuverable vehicle is really needed1 There’s no war of the appropriate scale ... But then the PRM TTX showed how fast it was! And the power! A weapon! Ugh ...

[Crystal of Truth]

Reflection from the series "all fools, I alone am smart .."

[surf dude]

Sneaked up, imperceptibly.

[APASUS]

Do not underestimate the Americans, on this occasion. I think they saw perfectly on the radar what is approaching them

[PilotS37]

Judging by the video, it was especially difficult for the F-15, which was rising from the airfield of one of the US military bases. You can recall a recent video where, due to the difference in speed, the Polish F-16 had to produce a landing gear in the air to intercept Russian aircraft. In the case of the American F-15, this was avoided, however, the fighter had to pretty much lower its tail, slowing down to a minimum.

Lord, guys, and in which Institute for Noble Maidens such "specialists" are trained ?!
You mixed two problems in a heap, giving out enchanting nonsense!
Why the Polish F-16 released the chassis, I can only guess - most likely, this is a problem with the preparation of the flight crew.
Yes, the landing gear has a very high resistance (it is comparable to the resistance of an aircraft in the "flight" configuration), that is, it is possible to brake sharply by releasing the landing gear. But there is a risk of damaging this very valuable mechanism. Therefore, such a "trick" can be done only after the plane has already decelerated - but in some other way. (Perhaps the F-16 has some kind of air braking problems, but somehow I haven't heard of them, although in aviation since the early 1980s.)
But chassis release does not solve the problem of providing steady flight at low speed - here, on the one hand, the engine needs to be throttled (and the F-16 should not have any problems with this), and on the other hand, the aircraft needs, in principle, to have a sufficiently low minimum evaluation speed (and here it is quite possible - F -16 to our "bazoviks" like the Il-38 loses (but this problem chassis release does not solve in principle!)).
As for the F-15 (there, by the way, the spark turned out for some reason ... (you see, the flight of the IL-38 was stupidly slept on Okinawa)), then yes! - The plane is not the most maneuverable, and it has to "turn up its nose", but not in order to better decelerate, but in order to, by increasing the angle of attack, ensure a flight at the lowest possible speed. By the way, the F-15 flew quite confidently, so here you shouldn't be too jerky (it's another matter that the Il-38 could probably fly even slower, and the Oryol could hardly).

[really]

Well explained, professionally, plus

[PilotS37]

Quote: really

Well explained, professionally, plus

“You can't drink the skill!”, As one of my acquaintances, the Master of Sports, used to say.

[really]

Unfortunately, I saw a lot of people who drank everything, not just skill Alas

[certero]

Quote: Navat

By the way, in the Israeli Air Force it was considered particularly chic to bring down a MIG from a cannon.

Why write such garbage?

[Indifferent]

It is time to know that the Americans know that the IL - 38 is not at war with aircraft carriers. Therefore, the pilots were sent just to see what else he would do, except for the flight. You never know what. Therefore, missiles did not catch. Why waste fuel in vain to overcome excess air resistance, and why carry extra weight? Do not count the adversary as fools. Professionals also serve there.

[Charik]

A couple of 9Aim-roles in fuel consumption will not play, much less nearby Avik, while one pair flies-another and load in full, there is also the 15th Eagle.

[Oberon_13]

Judging by the video, it was especially difficult for the F-15, which was rising from the airfield of one of the US military bases. You can recall a recent video where, due to the difference in speed, the Polish F-16 had to produce a landing gear in the air to intercept Russian aircraft. In the case of the American F-15, this was avoided, however, the fighter had to pretty much lower its tail, slowing down to a minimum.

Well, firstly, it was the Japanese F-15, and secondly, he still had to release the chassis. Read from FB itself: https://vk.com/wall-182816816_30734

[Charik]

I don’t know how you discerned that the F15 is Japanese, but avik maybe somewhere in the region of Japan in a quiet okay, I think the 15th automatic gearbox comes out at a certain speed? Avik either in the Pacific or in the Atlantic, but Il navriatli to the Atlantic flew, then yes most likely the Pacific near Japan.