A video appeared on the web of high-altitude landing of Russian paratroopers

Russian paratroopers made high-altitude landing by parachute method from a height of 10000 meters in arctic conditions. After landing, the Airborne Forces conducted a tactical and special exercise. The Ministry of Defense posted the video with the landing personnel on its own YouTube channel.

Russian paratroopers for the first time in the world stories made group landing using special parachute systems in arctic conditions. Landing was carried out on board the military transport aircraft Il-76 from a height of 10 km in the area of ​​Franz Josef Land.

According to the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Yunus-Bek Evkurov, for high-altitude landing from a specified height, new-generation special-purpose parachute systems, individual oxygen systems and navigation equipment were used. Also during the landing, new special equipment and uniforms were tested. As a result of the exercises, the new equipment was successfully tested.

We will conduct similar exercises annually, in different regions of the Arctic, with different composition of involved participants and in different periods of training.

- emphasized Yevkurov.

After the high-altitude landing, the paratroopers carried out a three-day tactical and special training on Alexandra’s Land, which also involved reconnaissance units of the airborne forces, landing from a height of 2000 meters, and military personnel of the tactical group of the North fleet.

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[knn54]

HISTORICAL leap.

[Mite]

Quote: knn54

HISTORICAL leap.

Not that word, and even in the Arctic .. This is still unprecedented in military history! Well done guys, mother Russia is alive ..

[figwam]

Quote: Tick

.This is still unprecedented in military history.

Well, yes, this wasn’t born, but here again.)

[A009]

You should try to read the article first before writing comments. It often removes a lot of questions.

[figwam]

Quote: A009

You try to read the article first

Back in 1968, conscript paratroopers made a high-altitude jump with landing at heights of 6100 and 7100 m in the Pamir mountains, which is much more difficult and dangerous, in 2003 our paratroopers repeated the record. If you are guided only by this article, then yes, this is the first time)

[Humpty]

Quote: figvam

Back in 1968, conscript paratroopers made a high-altitude jump with landing at heights of 6100 and 7100 m in the Pamir mountains

At what cost ... Have you been to the graves of those killed in that IMHO unhealthy adventure?

Quote: figvam

in 2003, our paratroopers repeated the record.

Repeated, yes, the truth is still not paid for the services provided and damage to other people's property. For several years this property harbored grapes for the winter.

[figwam]

Quote: Humpty

What price ... have you been to the graves of those killed in that IMHO unhealthy adventure

If you drop the landing in the mountains on the rocks now, the result will be the same, this is not the question, but about jumping in the first in the Arctic and high-altitude jumping, in principle, both were before this day.

[Semen Semyonitch]

He is not a reader ... He is a writer ...

[Kamikaze19]

In the video, the height is 1.5km. So yes for the first time at 10

[businessv]

Quote: figvam

Well, yes, this wasn’t born, but here again.)

Have you noticed the safety altimeter? 1,5 km, as usual. This is not 10000!

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Tick

This was never before

In 1968, on July 26, for the first time in the history of world parachuting, one of the highest peaks of the Pamirs, Lenin Peak (7134 meters), Soviet paratroopers were dropped. 46 people took part in the jump: 36 conscripts and 10 professional paratroopers. The unique action took place at the intersection of scientific and technical discoveries and was held under the strict guidance of the military, climbers

[tatarin1972]

There were no jumps from such a great height, and even in the Soviet Union in 1986, 876 SDBB ​​61 ObrMP landed on Kolguyev Island in the Kara Sea.

[Doliva63]

Quote: tatarin1972

There were no jumps from such a great height, and even in the Soviet Union in 1986, 876 SDBB ​​61 ObrMP landed on Kolguyev Island in the Kara Sea.

It was not part of the unit, and so in the Union they jumped from the stratosphere.

[tatarin1972]

I didn’t put it right, I wanted to say that the units were discharged by parachute method, but not from such a great height.

[Doliva63]

Quote: tatarin1972

I didn’t put it right, I wanted to say that the units were discharged by parachute method, but not from such a great height.

Well, I can’t argue with that

[seregatara1969]

What sign do they give for such jumps? Offered the other day for such jumps to give a distinctive badge: a parachute with a white bear instead of a rhombus and a digital sign on it for the number of jumps. It will be clear and honorable.

[Olgovich]

Quote: knn54

HISTORICAL leap.

temperature at an altitude of 10 km ...-55 deg

I sincerely admire the military!

Not everyone dares to do it ..

[Mite]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: knn54

HISTORICAL leap.

temperature at an altitude of 10 km ...-55 deg

I sincerely admire the military!

Not everyone dares to do it ..

And it’s not just show-offs, it’s the defense of OUR Arctic .. The territory is richest and there are many who want to snatch a piece there in the last year ..

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Olgovich

Not everyone dares to do it ..

As K. Bunch and Smith read. Paratroopers will get drunk, they will shove the old fart in a parachute and throw them off the plane. Statistics show that mortality is the same. What about the landing, what the fart.

[Mite]

Quote: Mordvin 3

As K. Bunch and Smith read. Paratroopers will get drunk, they will shove the old fart in a parachute and throw them off the plane. Statistics show that mortality is the same. What about the landing, what the fart.

Well, the old-timers still survive higher .. they swear in flight and are drunk and threaten to return and ..

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: knn54

HISTORICAL leap.

temperature at an altitude of 10 km ...-55 deg

I sincerely admire the military!

Not everyone dares to do it ..

Without disputing any of your words, I ask myself the question - what is the practical sense in high-altitude landing in combat conditions?

[Olgovich]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Without disputing any of your words, I ask myself the question - what is the practical sense in high-altitude landing in combat conditions?

I can only assume that this may be necessary and the MO has reasons for it.

for what and new ones were tested parachute, navigation and oxygen systems.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Olgovich

why new parachute, navigation and oxygen systems were tested.

Well, you, you. It's all right that you have prepared all these systems for high-altitude landing and tested them. It is wonderful!
But I asked a simple question - what is the practical meaning in high-altitude landing? What I received, except for the minuses, -

Quote: Olgovich

I can only assume that this may be necessary and the MO has reasons for it.

Good answer.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

What I received, except for the minuses, -
Quote: Olgovich

I can only assume that this may be necessary and the MO has reasons for it.

Good answer.

minus is not mine.

but I don’t want to invent a specific combat situation, because it’s not special. Specialists in the Moscow Region.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Olgovich

but I don’t want to invent a specific combat situation, because it’s not special. Specialists in the Moscow Region.

It’s not necessary to invent, it is necessary to imagine and think. I think this high-altitude landing from the position of adversary. First of all, from the ejection to the landing, in this case, more time will pass, which gives more time for its detection, determining the place of landing and taking measures for destruction.
Nothing else comes to mind.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Nothing else comes to mind.

SUCH landing will not wait.

[not main]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: Olgovich

but I don’t want to invent a specific combat situation, because it’s not special. Specialists in the Moscow Region.

It’s not necessary to invent, it is necessary to imagine and think. I think this high-altitude landing from the position of adversary. First of all, from the ejection to the landing, in this case, more time will pass, which gives more time for its detection, determining the place of landing and taking measures for destruction.
Nothing else comes to mind.

And if you think about it? Firstly, they do not jump on "oaks" with forced opening of the parachute, but on modern systems. Moreover, the main mode is free fall, so that the time from the drop to the landing may not be so critical. Or it may even decrease. It all depends on the preparation, and that's why it is necessary to conduct such exercises!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: non-primary

Moreover, the main mode is free fall,

So figure it out. what blow will the "body" receive when the parachute opens at an altitude of, say, 2 km.
Most likely the whole point is in planning, at a great distance from the place of release to the place of landing.

[tso1973]

The blow is the same that after a kilometer of fall, that after 8 kilometers, the maximum speed is about 350 km per hour in free fall and this is in the position upside down lying on his stomach, the speed is 250, this is in a normal atmosphere. Almost an ordinary jump! But if they opened immediately and planned 50 kilometers, it would be extreme at such a height and at such temperatures.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: tso1973

The blow is the same that after a kilometer of fall that after 8

You forgot the concept - "free fall acceleration" if my memory serves me, it is equal to 9.8 meters per second squared. And this means that the speed of the parachutist is at an altitude of 9 km. there will be one, and at an altitude of 2 km. will be much higher. Count it yourself, if not laziness. And imagine how strong the blow will be when the parachute is deployed at an altitude of 2 km. while flying 8 km in free fall. All this can be counted. I have no time.

[tso1973]

after 15 seconds of free fall, the speed does not increase, the acceleration is nullified by air resistance! The effect is only due to the rarefied atmosphere, but by the time the parachute opens, it is usually around 1 km that the speed will be the same when jumping from 10 km and when jumping from 20 km! Theoretically, you said everything correctly, but only theoretically! I have 200 parachute jumps from heights from 150 meters to 4500 meters with different types and I do not know about free fall speeds from textbooks.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

But I asked a simple question - what is the practical meaning in high-altitude landing?

Found an article:
https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/163448/
Specific answer:

"SP": - What is the advantage of landing troops from high altitudes?
- Previously, the accuracy and speed of the landing was ensured by ejection from low altitudes. However, the development and mass distribution of MANPADS dictate another tactic for the use of mobile military groups, including landing. The rumble of a flying aircraft at an altitude of six to eight kilometers is practically inaudible on the ground, and it is possible to land a battalion from several aircraft in absolute silence. Due to this, the factor of surprise increases, losses are minimized.
Jumping from high altitudes is necessary for action in highlands - on a plateau and mountain passes, where the average height is several thousand meters, notes

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: ROSS 42

Specific answer:

Thank you.

[for]

Quote: ROSS 42

The rumble of a flying aircraft at an altitude of six to eight kilometers is practically inaudible on the ground, and it is possible to land a battalion from several aircraft in absolute silence.

Not to mention modern air defense systems.
This operation is indicative of raising our spirits and intimidating them.

[Bshkaus]

Well, you, you. It's all right that you have prepared all these systems for high-altitude landing and tested them. It is wonderful!
But I asked a simple question - what is the practical meaning in high-altitude landing? What I received, except for the minuses, -

When a bravado article about the next feats of a Russian soldier comes to VO, it is customary to throw bonnets into the air and not ask stupid questions.
But I will answer your question seriously:
Look, in addition to the oxygen system, a "saboteur" kit is being developed, which allows you to glide at a distance of up to 40-50 km from the drop point at an altitude of 10-11 km.
The practical application is as follows: under the guise of a regular commercial or private flight of a business jet, the plane passes harmlessly away from the strategic object. Completely imperceptibly (especially at night) a group of saboteurs is thrown from the plane, which partially plans towards the object.
Why in the Arctic:
At 10 km the temperature is 40-50 degrees Celsius. For the oxygen system, icing of the exhalation valve, etc., is critical. due to exhaled water vapor. Icing can occur quickly enough and disrupt the oxygen system. The requirements for continuous operation at temperatures up to -40, -50 are prescribed in the statement of work, as landing can happen at any time of the year, in any weather, for example, in Alaska, Canada, or where are we going to beat the Americans in the winter?
At first, everyone worked in thermal pressure chambers with elevations of 10 km at -50 and a slow descent according to the parachuting schedule, now they are transferred for full-scale tests.
But it so happened that winter did not set this year, there was no frost, but it was necessary to experience it in frost. Where is the frost here?
In any case, it was necessary to test the system in Yakutia. But the Arctic is the most suitable option for both climatic conditions and the level of prestige (Pontus). Whether someone will seriously fight at the North Pole, I’m not sure the Arctic needs to be controlled not by the presence of a soldier’s boot (he has nothing to do there by and large), but by the ability to block the penetration of a potential enemy into the region.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Bshkaus

But I will answer your question seriously:

Thank. Now there are no questions.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

What is the practical meaning of high-altitude landing in combat?

This is a question. But it makes no sense. Recall the landing on the Dnieper. Half drowned, the other half the Germans surrounded and shot.

[Sniper Amateur]

Recall the landing on the Dnieper. Half drowned, the other half the Germans surrounded and shot.

Well - this file is not an indicator. With sufficient dolbolobstvo - you can flip any operation.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Sniper Amateur

Well - this file is not an indicator. With sufficient dolbolobstvo - you can flip any operation.

You can recall a lot of productive landing operations with a large number of troops in the rear of the prepared enemy?

[Sniper Amateur]

Well - if you think about it ...
Landing in the "Fortress Holland", Crete, Vyazma (partial success), Sicily, Normandy, Lower Rhine ...

[figwam]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

What is the practical meaning of high-altitude landing in combat?

The only point in this is landing for tens or even a hundred kilometers from the touchdown point.

[Zeev Zeev]

For dozens of kilometers from the landing point, the fighter will be spotted by radars, thermal imagers and visually. And on earth he will be organized a warm meeting from all the trunks.

[Doliva63]

Quote: figvam

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

What is the practical meaning of high-altitude landing in combat?

The only point in this is landing for tens or even a hundred kilometers from the touchdown point.

Well, that is, in the rear?

[Recon]

This type of densification occurs so that the plane does not enter the enemy's territory. The group opens up at a high altitude and goes to the point. With Stayer parachutes, it can cover a couple of tens of kilometers in good wind.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Recon

This type of densification occurs so that the plane does not enter the enemy's territory. The group opens up at a high altitude and goes to the point. With Stayer parachutes, it can cover a couple of tens of kilometers in good wind.

Maybe the group will travel a few tens of kilometers through the air, but its main work is on the ground. A lot of it will then pass through the earth, if it is not Zimbabwe, for example? The husk is all that. Of course, in some cases this is even necessary, but it is no longer for the Airborne Forces, and it is not shown on TV.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: knn54

HISTORICAL leap.

temperature at an altitude of 10 km ...-55 deg

I sincerely admire the military!

Not everyone dares to do it ..

Without disputing any of your words, I ask myself the question - what is the practical sense in high-altitude landing in combat conditions?

It's just PR from Shoigu, how good we are. Like Aviadarts and Tank Biathlon - the armor is strong and our tanks are fast. There is no airborne unit in the video - these are purely athletes. Have you noticed that the releaser does not inspect at all before the jump? But not a "stream" - it is obliged. I myself served and at the same time was an athlete. The difference in the organization of jumps is big - when you jump with a regular jumps unit, everything is organized according to the RVDP (Guidelines for Airborne Training in the Armed Forces) - everything is quite clear and tough, and when you jump as an athlete, the rules are different - according to the Regulation on military-applied parachuting, approximately at the level of DOSAAF. So not impressed. Jumping to the Pamirs - it was really cooler, there the soldiers were jumping conscripts. As for altitude, the military in the Union also jumped from the stratosphere. Probably, for the "new" Russia, such an "achievement" will come down - it is no longer a superpower And yes, even the officers in the medical books said: it is suitable for jumps, with the exception of experimental and high-altitude jumps - that is, a jump from 10 km. few people really "shine", it's cheap nonsense.

[K-36]

Dear colleague Doliva63. He supported you with his plus sign. It seems that a certain group of readers was hurt by the phrase this is cheap.. Although, for the sake of objectivity, it is worth noting that in the article goal This high-altitude landing in the Arctic is not clearly spelled out. This is where obviously far-fetched fantasies flow (about landing 50 km from the point of release, for example). This is a clear flaw in the article.
But I can share with you about the jump to the Pamirs. Among the thirty conscripts who jumped on the 6100 m plateau was my (later) personal trainer (and later bosom friend) Valentin Kalinkin. Somewhere with a whip, where with a carrot he dragged me to the Master of Sports of the USSR. Here is his interview in Ryazan Vedomosti about this jump to the Pamirs:
https://rv-ryazan.ru/pokoriteli-pamira/
Best regards,

[Doliva63]

Quote: K-36

Dear colleague Doliva63. He supported you with his plus sign. It seems that a certain group of readers was hurt by the phrase this is cheap.. Although, for the sake of objectivity, it is worth noting that in the article goal This high-altitude landing in the Arctic is not clearly spelled out. This is where obviously far-fetched fantasies flow (about landing 50 km from the point of release, for example). This is a clear flaw in the article.
But I can share with you about the jump to the Pamirs. Among the thirty conscripts who jumped on the 6100 m plateau was my (later) personal trainer (and later bosom friend) Valentin Kalinkin. Somewhere with a whip, where with a carrot he dragged me to the Master of Sports of the USSR. Here is his interview in Ryazan Vedomosti about this jump to the Pamirs:
https://rv-ryazan.ru/pokoriteli-pamira/
Best regards,

Thanks for the link, it was interesting.

[tso1973]

I totally agree with you! We jumped in 1997 with the PSS group, the temperature on the ground is -30, at an altitude of 2 km -45, there is no thermal underwear, the PO-9 system is ser3. That was extreme! The systems kept in a warm bus would not freeze, but did not take into account that after opening the wing will stand up and will not be controlled. The spread on the landing was like on oaks, it didn’t break well.

[Sniper Amateur]

What is the practical meaning of high-altitude landing in combat?

Nothing. The original idea was that the adversary would not understand that there was a fact of landing. Which had an obvious positive significance for SP. But with a modern airplane - it doesn’t roll. Since he is forced to characteristically and strongly slow down for throwing.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: knn54

HISTORICAL leap.

temperature at an altitude of 10 km ...-55 deg

I sincerely admire the military!

Not everyone dares to do it ..

I was always afraid and afraid of heights ... I had to work at the height of a six-story building, fifty centimeters wide, a wall .. A terrible horror, tightening my throat, catching my breath ... These guys, paratroopers, have an iron will! Stronger than fear! The height is ten kilometers ... below is an icy desert, a mortal cold, burning, freezing breath of icy air .. Desperate daredevils!

[Sniper Amateur]

The fear of "building" heights and the fear of jumping in flight are completely different and unrelated fears.

[Xnumx vis]

I do not argue ... But I'm afraid of heights. Jump from an airplane into an icy abyss, from a ten-kilometer height ... Brrr ... Let there be a parachute behind your shoulders .. A difficult jump. Well done guys!

[Allegro]

Famously!
More similar to setting a Guinness World Record by the sports team at the expense of the Moscow Region

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

From ten versts of HEIGHT ...... two or three candidates for astronauts kicked the landing ..... Boxer Denis Lebedev in a blue beret walks, paratrooper ..... Guys, who served with him and where he served .. .. Paratroopers, like sailors, are in abundance ...... I don’t say anything about landing, but there is something that sailors-windlass do not distinguish from a spire, and a clue from a scupper ........

[tatarin1972]

And you, as I understand it, walked around the deck, looked at the ceiling, stamped coamings. Did you drink tea with musings on Kloti?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: tatarin1972

And you, as I understand it, walked around the deck, looked at the ceiling, stamped coamings. Did you drink tea with musings on Kloti?

In the galley, he pasta was blown and grinded with a rasp at the anchor of the paw ... to the boatswain with an empty bucket for ..... went ...

[Kathernik]

- I agree in part. I was once on the Day of the Navy on the embankment in a cafe. After a couple of glasses, I began to ask which of which warheads. It turned out from the "boxes" only 5%. Others: coast guard, communication centers, warehouses, headquarters, etc. But probably these are also needed .....

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

I agree with you ......

[sabakina]

Good luck to the guys and to always see the dome above your head!

[businessv]

After the high-altitude landing, the paratroopers conducted a three-day tactical and special exercise on Alexandra’s Land, which also involved reconnaissance units of the airborne forces, which made landing from a height of 2000 meters

Well done guys, bravo! Shoigu also does not go wrong, he knows how to keep our "partners" in good shape! Like "wagging your tongue - not jumping with a parachute!"

[g_ae]

That is, Shoigu thus takes care of the "tone" (that is, the health) of the "partners"? Yeah. It does not go wrong, so it doesn’t go wrong. So that's why it was placed on the mosaic of the temple. And an inflatable temple with fighting priests for toning "partners" too? Well, to amuse partners "for tone".

[businessv]

Quote: g_ae

So that's why he was placed on the mosaic of the temple.

Are you hinting that the "partners" are also in charge of the placement of images on the mosaic of the temple of our Armed Forces? Or just did not understand who I am talking about?

[g_ae]

It is not excluded. Well, if almost all the activities of the Russian government are in favor of the "partners", then why will there be an exception? Well, what is more profitable for "partners"? Building military equipment or building a temple? At least the defense capability will not become higher, and the accounts will be pleasantly replenished somewhere.

[businessv]

Quote: g_ae

Well, what is more profitable for "partners"? Building military equipment or building a temple?

Colleague, the construction of the Russian Armed Forces temple is called the restoration of Orthodox traditions. And the funds were also collected according to tradition - from each, whenever possible. I will not talk about the sinlessness of our government, it would be stupid all the more since I would gladly change it to professionals, and not leave these amateurs to profit from the treasury. But if you are talking about the benefits of "partners", then it is more profitable for them if we did not exist at all! Therefore, you should not argue about the spiritual, and even more so try to support your post with a discussion. Spirit is the foundation of any nation. There is no first, there will be no second!

[g_ae]

Well, in that case, you should be familiar with the maxim that a tree is known by its fruit. So, judging by how, as a result of the activities of the Russian government (which includes the "disruptive" Shoigu), a nation is rapidly dying out, the spirit of which is being strengthened in such a peculiar way, the desire of "partners" is being successfully realized. No. The guys jumped and jumped. Exercises, combat training, all that, everything is clear here. What does this "wow" have to do with it, and even to Shoigu? "Populism" in a very literal sense.

[businessv]

Quote: g_ae

What does this "wow" have to do with it, and even to Shoigu? "Populism" in a very literal sense.

I don’t understand the word "wow" in principle, do not attribute it to me! If you stop standing in the pose of a truth-teller and philanthropist, you will see that Shoigu is put on those directions that are in an absolute enclosure. And these directions after that begin to miraculously transform into leading ones. Can you prove the opposite - you are welcome! This is one of the few professionals - business executives, no matter what and who says. Now about the mosaic. Calm down, everyone is outraged, there will be no mosaic, glory to the Almighty, so do not stick it into every post, please, with one character in the story, then with another, depending on whom it is about, this is already sick! And those who are against the construction of churches, in principle, are half-witted, in my humble opinion. Ministers can cause irritation, bewilderment, regret and rage, but they come and go, and the temple stands and should stand! Do not confuse God with righteous, it looks stupid, colleagues! And to you, Alexander, a personal request. Trying to prove your point of view, you throw in metaphors and phrases that are not at all related to the topic under discussion. I can list: government measures; the government itself; extinction of the nation; temple mosaic; inflatable temple .... I can continue, but I'm tired of it. I wrote that the guys are great and it happened with the assistance of Shoigu, who is their commander. Dot! Write to the point if you have something to write!

[g_ae]

By the way, Russian economist Mikhail Khazin claims that the projects of the most destructive Russian reforms and bills were written (for a lot of money) for the Russian government by American consulting companies.

[Bshkaus]

A colleague, the construction of the temple of the Armed Forces of Russia is called the restoration of Orthodox traditions.

Nice tradition! I would like to ask our patriarch looking into his eyes: is it convenient for him at the "German" Pullman to first serve the Liturgy at the Butovo training ground in memory of the clergy who were shot under Stalin, and then rush with an escort to bless the construction of a temple with the face of that very Stalin, which is being built in the honor of defeating the very Germans whose car he loves to use

[businessv]

Quote: Bshkaus

I would like to ask our patriarch looking into his eyes: is it convenient for him at the "German" Pullman to first serve the Liturgy at the Butovo training ground

So ask him, what has the temple to do with it ?! Why are you lumping everything together? Remember to begin with the phrase from "Repentance": "Why do we need a road if it does not lead to the temple?" And yes, I think that in German Pullman he is comfortable enough, but this is not my business at all and it is not interesting to me, unlike you! I am interested in Faith in God, which definitely goes separately from the "clergy" who are not interesting to me at all!

[Doliva63]

Quote: businessv

After the high-altitude landing, the paratroopers conducted a three-day tactical and special exercise on Alexandra’s Land, which also involved reconnaissance units of the airborne forces, which made landing from a height of 2000 meters

Well done guys, bravo! Shoigu also does not go wrong, he knows how to keep our "partners" in good shape! Like "wagging your tongue - not jumping with a parachute!"

Apparently, you definitely didn’t jump

[businessv]

Quote: Doliva63

Apparently, you definitely didn’t jump

What word did you calculate it for? I definitely didn’t jump from dozens, I limited myself to a modest little girl with a bit, like anyone in our brigade. I think that it’s hard to be as clairvoyant as you — whatever the prediction, then by!

[Doliva63]

Quote: businessv

Quote: Doliva63

Apparently, you definitely didn’t jump

What word did you calculate it for? I definitely didn’t jump from dozens, I limited myself to a modest little girl with a bit, like anyone in our brigade. I think that it’s hard to be as clairvoyant as you — whatever the prediction, then by!

This jarred me: "to wag your tongue - not to jump with a parachute!" What's so cool about skydiving? Share your feelings, if not difficult. And my "Apparently, you definitely did not jump" I disavow with apologies.

[businessv]

Quote: Doliva63

What's so great about a parachute jump?

You don’t want to tell anything, and today everyone can jump with a parachute, or rather, it is accessible to everyone, and how can he try it!

[Doliva63]

Quote: businessv

Quote: Doliva63

What's so great about a parachute jump?

You don’t want to tell anything, and today everyone can jump with a parachute, or rather, it’s accessible to everyone, and how can he try it!

Thank you, I already tried it - on a limited area day / night, on water, on city buildings. What else advise? I had a chance to sit down at a forest at 14 m / s, fortunately, the Civil Code was, caught on a pine tree, hit a clearing During his service he mastered D-1-8, D-1-5U, D-6, T-4, UT-15. And before that, he "worked" for a whole year as a stacker of parachutes - human (sports and landing), brake (aircraft), rescue (PSU-36 and which was before him). Therefore, I think that jumping with a parachute is almost like scratching with your tongue. I didn't want to offend your feelings. I laid it down - I jumped. In the Air Force it was before breakfast, in the Airborne Forces - closer to lunch, all the difference

[Humpty]

It would be interesting to look at the oxygen equipment, especially which cylinder is used. A mask, a gearbox, it's probably hard to come up with a new "bike". I must say that Russian individual oxygen equipment is generally well made, but something new may have appeared.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Sigali long jump, if with weapons and BC .....

[Doliva63]

Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021

Sigali long jump, if with weapons and BC .....

There, in the video, a dude releases a parachute with his hand - it means clearly more time than the device gives, that is, of course, prolonged. And with weapons and main guns (this is a cargo container, if that) they usually jump with a delay of 3 to 5 seconds. You do not know?

[K-36]

Doliva63, buddy. Although we are sports colleagues, but for the sake of Truth (Plato is my friend, but Truth is dearer ) I have to correct you a little. On modern wing parachutes, the parachute deployment pattern has gradually (but more and more confidently!) Boiled down to the fact that the parachutist pulls out the red "boss" rigidly connected to the soft "jellyfish" (that is, the pilot parachute). But in order for the main one to open, a person must release this "boss" from his hand . And no a safety device for the main dome is not included in this scheme! But in reserve disclosure scheme insurer is put! For, suddenly the skydiver fell asleep (for example, from oxygen starvation and he won’t be able to pull out the boss in any way), then the forced disclosure of the spare tire with a safety device should save it. Well, I was glad to talk with a colleague (now I will take into account with possible communication). Yours faithfully

[Doliva63]

Quote: K-36

Doliva63, buddy. Although we are sports colleagues, but for the sake of Truth (Plato is my friend, but Truth is dearer ) I have to correct you a little. On modern wing parachutes, the parachute deployment pattern has gradually (but more and more confidently!) Boiled down to the fact that the parachutist pulls out the red "boss" rigidly connected to the soft "jellyfish" (that is, the pilot parachute). But in order for the main one to open, a person must release this "boss" from his hand . And no a safety device for the main dome is not included in this scheme! But in reserve disclosure scheme insurer is put! For, suddenly the skydiver fell asleep (for example, from oxygen starvation and he won’t be able to pull out the boss in any way), then the forced disclosure of the spare tire with a safety device should save it. Well, I was glad to talk with a colleague (now I will take into account with possible communication). Yours faithfully

Salute, colleague! What is "jellyfish", I remember from the time of UT-15 (there were, like, 2 of them) But right there, supposedly, the personnel of the Airborne Forces jumps, and since those best years I remember that according to the RVDP (Airborne Training Manual, if they did not jump in the army), the device must be on the main dome, and the device is not installed on the ZP ... Well, some still put a stopwatch. And that's all. And about the "redhead" I was told only by those who started jumping in DOSAAF - there, yes, there was a belayer on the spare wheel. In general, glad to meet you! But if you suddenly find that I am carrying nonsense somewhere, do not take it to heart - I am after less than 300 grams. I don’t go to the site for tea

[Bshkaus]

It would be interesting to look at the oxygen equipment, especially which cylinder is used. Mask, gearbox, it’s probably hard to come up with a new "bike"

Mask KM-37P. Unlike KM-35, it is simpler because a complete tight fit is not required in case of excess oxygen supply.
A cylinder of 3 or 5 liters (which one exactly flew out of my head), in a word, ordinary oxygen.
During the flight, 30 minutes before the release, the oxygen supply begins to flow into the mask "from the board" for desaturation (washing out nitrogen from the blood as a prophylaxis of altitude decompression sickness), just before the release, switching to a portable balloon.

[Pacifist with AK]

Quote: Allegro

Famously!
More similar to setting a Guinness World Record by the sports team at the expense of the Moscow Region

I would add - "Putenuhodiiiiiii !!!"

[Mite]

Quote: Pacifist with AK

Quote: Allegro

Famously!
More similar to setting a Guinness World Record by the sports team at the expense of the Moscow Region

I would add - "Putenuhodiiiiiii !!!"

To whom, and a lousy bathhouse ...

[carstorm 11]

psychologists say that usually the most inveterate and noisy homophobes are hidden lovers of the flag of the color of the rainbow ... something I suddenly remembered ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: carstorm 11

psychologists say that usually the most inveterate and noisy homophobes are hidden lovers of the flag of the color of the rainbow ... something I suddenly remembered ...

Are you the fans of the "tricolor"?

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Do you dream of getting a louse out of a bath, shaving your hair, shaving it? The hardships of service, apparently ..... and the upcoming pension is not happy?

[Mite]

Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021

Do you dream of getting a louse out of a bath, shaving your hair, shaving it? The hardships of service, apparently ..... and the upcoming pension is not happy?

As long as whiners like you exist, I’ll live on evil for you and chase you on the Internet, like hacky dogs .. Forgive me for being harsh, but in any other way, this is the softest statement ..
These are the things in a Russian bathhouse .. Heat succumb?

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Give us the heat .... give us .... Didn't Hollywood make films about Rimbaud from you ..... What are you famous for, man ....... Are you not a scientist .....

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

What are you famous for? Tell us......

[Puler]

Jump from 10000 meters ..

[VicktorVR]

I wonder at what height the parachutes open and how long do they fly "freely"?

[Mite]

Quote: VicktorVR

I wonder at what height the parachutes open and how long do they fly "freely"?

Well, they fly for a long time, this is unequivocal and secrecy, and the disclosure is already above the ground itself, it's the military ..

[Recon]

Depends on the task, there they fell to about 1200 approximately.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Recon

Depends on the task, there they fell to about 1200 approximately.

And what speed will the brow have from 10000 to 1200 ??? and `` wing '' that's so chpok and `` accept me Earth '' ...

[VicktorVR]

Speed ​​according to the laws of physics (and mathematics) will not grow above a certain limit, not in space ...

[Sklendarka]

Quote: VicktorVR

Speed ​​according to the laws of physics (and mathematics) will not grow above a certain limit, not in space ...

Yes, the taste is about 200 km / h + -

[K-36]

Skalandarka, do not invent non-existent entities . In the surface layer (0 - 2000 m), a person, falling flat, acquires an equilibrium speed of 50 - 60 m / s (which corresponds to 180 - 210 km / h). All serial human parachutes, both earlier in the late USSR and further in the Russian Federation, are issued with a permissible opening speed, significantly exceeding this value. You personally (for example!): The K-36 PSU-36 ejection parachute rescue parachute has a permissible deployment speed = 600 km / h. In this case, the pilot can catapult at a speed of 1200 km / h. Neither the injury to the pilot, nor the gust of the dome at the time of opening does not occur.
Climb on the Internet, there is a lot of useful information to fill up knowledge on this issue.

[K-36]

VictorVR I wonder at what height the parachutes open and how long they fly "freely"?

This is the most chief issue of the topic under discussion. For, knowing the answer to it, you can sort through the whole goal of this jump. My knowledge and experience is quite enough for this, because from 1988 to 2001. on special Central Officer Courses he trained and graduated (with exams) the chiefs of the PDS of the Air Force aviation. Although from time to time officers from other departments (border guards, marines, combat swimmers and even the head of the PDS of the aircraft carrier "Kuznetsov") got to these courses.

[certero]

Quote: Olgovich

I can only assume that this may be necessary and the MO has reasons for it.

why new parachute, navigation and oxygen systems were tested

So tell me, what are the reasons for jumping from a height of 10000 meters?

[Mite]

Quote: certero

So tell me, what are the reasons for jumping from a height of 10000 meters?

Stealth, this is the whole trick of such risky leaps

[Zeev Zeev]

The secrecy of what? Landing? That is, radars will not notice either the plane or the landing with a bunch of weapons and ammunition?

[Doliva63]

Quote: certero

Quote: Olgovich

I can only assume that this may be necessary and the MO has reasons for it.

why new parachute, navigation and oxygen systems were tested

So tell me, what are the reasons for jumping from a height of 10000 meters?

One reason - Shoigu well done, type. The remaining reasons have long been tested, studied and recorded on the tablets. Shoigu, you see, also wants to go there

[mvg]

Can someone tell me, WHY? We never in history, in military operations did not jump. Another ... as if softer .. And the first comment from the "interesting" military, which is not even familiar with the multiplication table.

[AshiSolo]

Yes, these fools and the Defense Ministry got it all at all: they set up ballistic missiles and are testing them. At the same time, not once in history have any potential partners been wiped off the face of the earth. Continuous window dressing, you panim!

[g_ae]

Well, they immediately said clearly. To keep "partners" in good shape. Well, the right word is incomprehensible. And the funny thing is that it can be pure truth. Literally.

[Ros 56]

Strongly, no words. And the highest level of training. Well done guys.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Ros 56

Strongly, no words. And the highest level of training. Well done guys.

Well, the army has always been famous for athletes! But this has nothing to do with the training of troops.

[Ros 56]

Jump from 10 km. It has nothing to do with sports, especially parachuting.

[faterdom]

To the question "why?"
And then, everything in the world, and fundamental science, and the sport of great achievements, and flights into space, and super-deep dives are of military-applied significance, even if at the moment it is not obvious.
For those who do not understand what the Arctic is, and how to control it.
This is to some extent a different planet, deserted, unfriendly to humans, huge. It can be controlled remotely: space, radio reconnaissance, long-range radar, and so on.
Well, planets can be studied with a telescope / radio telescope, even moon rovers / rovers.
Is such control "master's"? No, of course, he is intelligence, observant, Trump would say "grandiosely magnificent!", But in fact ...
Here is the base with trained people, weapons and equipment for survivability - yes! This is indisputable real control of the territory, we are discussing the size, but this is not a moonwalker for you and not a decision of a Texas court on the Moon’s ownership.
Accordingly, I’d like to think that the enemy will want to destroy (or rather capture) our bases, we, in turn, its bases.
But the methods ... You can, of course, organize a missile attack, only given the direction you can get the apocalypse, and then, if someone tells someone that “we wanted a little, pretend,
for the sake of freedom of navigation in the Arctic, for example, or, they say, they wanted to cheer the greens with Greta Tuborg ... "You can talk whatever you want, but there are no bad ones.
Air raid? So the Arctic should be covered by air defense / missile defense, and long-range interceptors. Maybe he is looking out from space, or there is "Peresvet" which is hidden in the tent, together with the Arctic "Buk" and "Vityaz".
But to arrange something "the base stopped responding to all kinds of signals" and other "mysteries of the century" is a tempting way, all the more so then you can make a face with a brick and shrug your shoulders along with the offended.
We will not talk about the methods - what and how exactly, gas, virus, radiation, just a knife you can destroy the base personnel, but here's how to get ...
You won’t get dressed in a polar bear from a submarine - who said they didn’t watch her, but from the air on a long polar night at high altitude and long range on a radiotransparent planning device - this is a chance. That's just the Arctic, altitude, night, temperature and other, other ...
Can a fighter, in principle, land like that? How to check? Answer: to work theoretically, but to test only practically, nothing else. Here, like fleas, various "unaccounted factors" will jump in, which for the future will need to be taken into account, and again checked and tested.

[g_ae]

All this is understandable and correct, but I doubt very much that in the case of a real situation, someone will use such an exotic method. Well this is not the USSR. This is the Russian Federation. They will send some regular Petrov and Bashirov. And cheap and do not mind if that. This option is much more likely.

[mvg]

which for the future will need to be taken into account

I did not master such a text

[certero]

In short, no one knows why this is necessary, but cheers.
Mindless patriotism is even worse than those who pour nasty things.
Correct patriotism is to see the good, but also to see the bad ... so that the bad disappears.
If such questions about the need for such jumps are asked, then the Ministry of Defense sucks worked with the PR of this news. Not explained clearly and interestingly. So PR specialists there are worthless, they need to be replaced by others.

[Zeev Zeev]

As a man who parachuted a couple of times in the army, I was very interested in the idea of ​​jumping from such a great height. That is, in addition to the heap of equipment already mounted on the fighter, he also takes oxygen equipment, reducing the combat load (because any parachute has a weight limit). Such a jump does not have any operational value (in my opinion), but with the ostentatious ...

[Rusfaner]

Here, rather, a technical check was carried out.

[Victorio]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Such a jump does not have any operational value (in my opinion), but with the ostentatious ...

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we’ll see what you will broadcast to us during such jumps of your tsanhanim

[Zeev Zeev]

And ours do not jump like that. The combat height of the jump is 1200 feet. You can lower the height so that the scatter is small. Day, night, on the water, with and without ammunition. Minimum safe landing height. A minute in the air.

[Victorio]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And ours do not jump like that. The combat height of the jump is 1200 feet. You can lower the height so that the scatter is small. Day, night, on the water, with and without ammunition. Minimum safe landing height. A minute in the air.

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know, know. when they jump, then the bouts of praises

[Zeev Zeev]

We will not. We ask "Well, what for was it necessary?" We have an army for war, not for posts.

[Victorio]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

We will not. Let's ask "Well, what for was it necessary?" We have an army for war exists, not for posts.

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this is not discussed, all armies are like that. yours and other pearls are completely different here, on in. I don’t have any desire to drive a wave on your resources. and what you have there, namely, need / necessity, I do not know.

[Amateur]

On July 27, 1968, for the first time in the history of world parachuting, one of the highest peaks of the Pamirs, Lenin Peak (7134 meters), was thrown by the landing of Soviet paratroopers. 46 people took part in the jump: 36 conscripts and 10 aces paratroopers. So it would have happened if tragedy had not happened. Four paratroopers were killed: foreman Vladimir Mekayev, private Yury Yumatov, senior sergeant Valery Glagolev, designer Vyacheslav Tomarovich.

Details: http://alp.org.ua/?p=15087

[iouris]

Very interesting.
Quote: “The pipe-laying vessel Akademik Chersky, which is capable of completing the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, has again changed course, announcing a return to the port of Nakhodka, according to Myshiptracking.
According to the tracking portal, the vessel is currently passing the English Channel, while the destination is Nakhodka, from which the ship set off on February 10, 2020. "
End of quote.
To spite grandmother's ears at the North Pole frostbite?

[Free wind]

In fact, it turned, this is the number, and why all these movements were started with a trip to the floor of the earthly world. Then comes let through the Strait of Magelan, There will be a round the world.

[Avior]

I doubt it. For some reason, it always indicates an invalid port of arrival.

[Super]

Good news. Work brothers! For the boys!

[Old Horseradish]

This, of course, is not easy, to put it mildly, to make such jumps, but adversary, as many here write, will not scare the word at all. They jump from where - from 40 km from the surface of the Earth.

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Old Horseradish

This, of course, is not easy, to put it mildly, to make such jumps, but adversary, as many here write, will not scare the word at all. They jump from where - from 40 km from the surface of the Earth.

I can't understand, let me do it for you, I can't understand if you are an old vegetable or not a young one, 'fight', but this is the lyrics.
The adversary is a sigal from a balloon gandola without a candom, because there was a secret in the spacesuit, which equalized the pressure with swallowing movements of the larynx (so that it would not ring in my ears ....)
Sincerely.

[Old Horseradish]

Man, you have such normal Zon jargon. Do you blow a hair dryer? He understood what he wanted to say? I just wanted to say that the West is not idle and they have come very far.

[Doliva63]

Quote from rudolf

For a long time I have not seen landing from the IL-76th through the rear ramp and even in two streams. As usual, through the side doors in the last twenty years.
The meaning of landing from such a height that not every air defense system will get, not just MANPADS. But in any case, this is not for mass landing. Intelligence, special forces, MTR.

Intelligence (special forces) - from an airplane, from 10 thousand? This may be in Namibia somewhere where there are no means of monitoring airspace.

[tatarin1972]

When Margelov didn’t jump into two streams from the ramp, there were too many entries with such an outburst.

[tatarin1972]

This is an excerpt from an article in the journal Technics and Armaments.
The test results showed that the IL-76 aircraft provides safe landing in one, two and three streams. Landing in four streams does not exclude cases of convergence of paratroopers at the stage of stable flight. Therefore, the right decision was made: during training jumps, the landing should be carried out in two streams from the side doors, when the paratroopers were placed on the plane as in the four-stream jump scheme, and the landing was carried out in two approaches. With large military exercises, the landing is carried out in three streams: from the side doors and from the ramp (in one stream). During the fighting, it is possible to drop into four streams: two streams from the side doors and two streams from the ramp at the same time. In this case, the main factor is the landing time, the length of the landing site and the collection time of the landing after landing.

[Allegro]

Perhaps the next one will be the technique.
It's nice to read that we master and hone our skills!

[Sklendarka]

He writes to you a cosmonaut leader from a burning tank; interestingly, the defects are dancing, landing from 10000 thousand meters through a ramp (Il / 76) ...
, without breathing apparatus, exhaust in the pouch and landing on a rolled road (56 seconds).
I remember how I dived to the Titanic, and besides, without layers ...

[Looking for]

"THE FOOL does not need a knife, he FALSE with three boxes. And do with him. What you want.

[Sklendarka]

Of course, I understand that I don't like my comment, there are all sorts of disadvantages, but at an altitude of 10000 meters and at a speed of 400/450 km / h (and the speed there will be higher), but with an open ramp, you will not stand on foot. will suck '' five meters from the ,, frame ''

[Slavs]

Dandelions ...))

[Looking for]

who needs this BRAG ?? !!

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Seeker

who needs this BRAG ?? !!

Head of the PDS ...

[Doliva63]

Quote: Skalendarka

Quote: Seeker

who needs this BRAG ?? !!

Head of the PDS ...

There is no VDS in the Airborne Forces, if you are not in the know, there is an GVA. PDS is in the Air Force. It's just that I was both a PDS nickname and a GDS nickname

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Doliva63

Quote: Skalendarka

Quote: Seeker

who needs this BRAG ?? !!

Head of the PDS ...

There is no VDS in the Airborne Forces, if you are not in the know, there is an GVA. PDS is in the Air Force. It's just that I was both a PDS nickname and a GDS nickname

And you do not cough, your health ....

[Doliva63]

Quote: Skalendarka

Quote: Doliva63

Quote: Skalendarka

Quote: Seeker

who needs this BRAG ?? !!

Head of the PDS ...

There is no VDS in the Airborne Forces, if you are not in the know, there is an GVA. PDS is in the Air Force. It's just that I was both a PDS nickname and a GDS nickname

And you do not cough, your health ....

And yours Well, I don’t remember in the bowels of the GVA of the airborne assault service. True, I did not work with ASGs, only with human parachutes.

[Super]

How do you like Ilon Mask? Country gas station torn to shreds said yes?

[Rusfaner]

Well done, landing !!!!
Real specialists jumped!
May God grant you all health and jumping without failures!
All my parachuting life I dreamed of performing such a jump! Two minutes of free fall! You can "talk" almost ten to the side of the point of release!
But it did not grow together, and now the aunt-doctor will not allow it.

[Super]

Well done Shoigu does not allow Americans to relax!

[Yurahip]

By order of Shoigi, there is NO cove in the Russian army!

[Crystal of Truth]

Already have .. Account for thousands of e-wallets

[Banzai]

I hope our potential friends kakushonka next postponed ..... And then give them the Arctic. No question. Airborne will serve you in full.

[Connor MacLeod]

Polar station Zebra ...