The timeline for launching the Poseidon carrier - the nuclear submarine Khabarovsk became known

The standard carrier of unmanned aerial vehicles Poseidon - the nuclear submarine Khabarovsk of project 09851 will be launched at the end of May this year. It is reported by RIA News with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex (MIC).

According to the agency’s source, they plan to launch the submarine at the end of May at Sevmash, where Khabarovsk is being built. After the descent, the submarine will be completed afloat, after which the carrier of the Poseidons will go for tests that will take at least two years.

It should be noted that the Khabarovsk nuclear submarine will be a regular carrier of underwater uninhabited vehicles and, according to unconfirmed reports, will be able to carry at least six Poseidons on board. At the same time, the Belgorod multipurpose nuclear submarine of Project 949A Antei, specially converted to Poseidons and launched on April 23, 2019, will be an experimental carrier. Belgorod plans to transfer to the customer in the fall of 2020.

Not much is known about the Khabarovsk nuclear submarine. The submarine project was developed at the Rubin Central Design Bureau (TsKB); the submarine itself was laid down at Sevmash in July 2014. The technical details of the project are not reported.

Last year, some Russian media outlets with links to their own sources stated that the launch of the Khabarovsk project 09851 submarine into the water will take place in the spring of 2020, and its commissioning in the Russian Navy is planned for 2022.

It should be noted that earlier it was reported about the plans of the Ministry of Defense to adopt up to 32 Poseidon underwater uninhabited vehicles, in the future building four underwater carriers for them. According to the plans of the military department, two submarines with drones should be located in the North and Pacific fleets.

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[955535]

About the transfer of "Belgorod" in 2020 - complete nonsense.

[Piramidon]

Quote: 955535

About the transfer of "Belgorod" in 2020 - complete nonsense.

Why drive a gag? Who told you about the TRANSMISSION in 2020? It is written only about launching. After this, completion afloat takes a few more years.

[955535]

Before accusing me of a gag, carefully read the text of the article. 7th sentence from the beginning.
Those six people who slammed my minus either did not delve into the text, or were completely unaware of what was happening.

[sanik2020]

The necessary technique means they will do it, they will do it and more if they steal less.

[Bald rat]

Can I ask a question? We have a catastrophic situation in the Navy, not a single ship of the first rank has been built since the collapse of the USSR and throughout the entire era of knee rising. Catastrophic shortage of aircraft PLO. Lack of strike submarines. Maybe they are still more needed than this analogue neta?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Bald Rat

We have a catastrophic situation in the Navy, not a single ship of the first rank has been built since the collapse of the USSR and throughout the entire era of knee rising.

And what is the rank of the SSBN?

Quote: Bald Rat

Catastrophic shortage of aircraft PLO.

7-8 aircraft for all fleets - this is no longer a shortage. This is the lack of air defense PLO.

Quote: Bald Rat

Lack of strike submarines.

Similarly - not lack, but lack. For example, the Pacific Fleet should cover its SSBNs and SSBNs with the only combat-ready ICAPL.
And this is not to mention the OVR from its IPC of the time of Gorbi and TG of the same times.

[Bald rat]

And what is the rank of the SSBN?

Well, formally yes, but I meant surface ships. And if you look more broadly, the SSBN is not a boat but "-" a boat or a ship. He also needs an escort.

[Sergej1972]

But does not PLARK belong to the category of percussion?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Sergej1972

But does not PLARK belong to the category of percussion?

The problem is that if we are not talking about the class of SSGNs in general, but specifically about the "batons" available to the Navy, then these drums SSBNs themselves need cover.

[Liam]

Quote: Alexey RA

then these shock SSGNs themselves need cover

Marine version of the theme fighterbomber Su-34

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Liam

Quote: Alexey RA

then these shock SSGNs themselves need cover

Marine version of the theme fighterbomber Su-34

Do you think the Su-34 will protect them from the submarines of the Sea Wolff and Virginia-class hunters of the British Astyut?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Do you think the Su-34 will protect them from the submarines of the Sea Wolff and Virginia-class hunters of the British Astyut?

It's about another: that fighter bomber The Su-34 in fact became a front-line bomber, requiring fighter cover to work.
Similar shock "Baton" requires cover for ISSNS for its work.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Liam

Marine version of the theme of the Su-34 fighter-bomber

Well yes, in the sense that platypus in fact became front-line bomber like a Su-24.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: Sergej1972

But does not PLARK belong to the category of percussion?

The problem is that if we are not talking about the class of SSGNs in general, but specifically about the "batons" available to the Navy, then these drums SSBNs themselves need cover.

Pike-B, Ash-M and possibly Khabarovsk is also a hunter submarine, judging by its displacement and speed. They should cover the loaves and strategic missile carriers.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Bald Rat

Maybe they are still more needed than this analogue neta?

Of course, more needed. But you are missing the factor of phallometry: in terms of the number of SSNS in the fleet, we will never be able to compete with a potential enemy. But we can surpass in the number of nuclear submarines with indistinct wunderwaves as the main armament (our favorite hurdy-gurdy about "has no analogues in the world"). It is already possible to "sell" such a topic to the electorate: it is clear what the wagons of money were spent on and why Americans still have to be afraid of us to their wet pants. The main thing is that the Americans themselves understand that they should be afraid.

[venik]

Quote: Bald Rat

Can I ask a question? We have a catastrophic situation in the Navy, since the collapse of the USSR and for the entire era of knee rising was not built not a single ship of the first rank.

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Excuse me, but to WHAT rank are large landing ships like "Ivan Gren"? Can you tell me?
According to the classification of the ships of the Russian Navy (quote):
- "...Ships of the 1st rank have a gyus which rises on the bow flagpole of the ship when it is parked. Displacement of 1st rank ships over 5 tons. They are intended for operations in the far sea and ocean zone, both as part of formations (Ship strike group, Carrier strike group), and independently..."

- "...1st-level ship commander senior officer 1st-rank captain.

- "...Landing ship (1st rank) - a special-purpose surface ship designed to transport military equipment and personnel of amphibious assault, as well as its landing on an un equipped shore and fire support... .. "
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So to WHAT rank are the ships of the project 11711 ????
To the "third", to the "second" or still to the "FIRST" ???
PS About the Premier League - I DO NOT TALK already! ALL (without exception) nuclear submarines built in the post-Soviet period - these are ships 1 (first!) rank!
PPS Questions - is there?

[Bald rat]

Excuse me, but to WHAT rank are large landing ships like "Ivan Gren"? Can you tell me?

Maximum to the second, if it is a stretch and formally.
And if you take a sober look at things, then to the third.
No armed transport, which is essentially a BDK, can be the first rank.

PS About the Premier League - I DO NOT TALK already! ALL (without exception) submarines built in the post-Soviet period are ships of the 1st (first!) Rank!

I meant surface ships. However, with the submarine situation is slightly better.

[venik]

[quote = Bald Rat] Maximum to the second, if it's a stretch and formally.
And if you take a sober look at things, then to the third.
No armed transport, which is essentially a BDK, can be the first rank.
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You CAREFULLY read the points of "Classification of ships of the Russian Navy" ??? It doesn't matter HOW you look at them: SOLE or NOT VERY "soberly"!
If you can justifiably prove that the BDK of project 11711 belong to the THIRD or to the SECOND Rank: I am in front of you I apologize publicly!!!
If - DO NOT BE ABLE ..... I WILL PUBLICALLY declare that you: AMATEUR, CHATTERBOX и DEMAGOGUE!!!
Those. "bla-bla-bla-bla" - NO FIGA who knows neither ships nor military equipment!
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PS I look forward to JUSTIFIED evidence!
PPS Options: "It's obvious" or "I'm convinced" - NOT ACCEPTED!

[Bald rat]

In the Navy of the Russian Federation there is an established division of ships into four ranks. Depending on the ship’s affiliation to a particular rank, the seniority of their commanders, the legal status of their crews (primarily commanders) and the norms of their material support are determined.
The first rank is the first one, it mainly includes large surface ships (aircraft carriers, missile and anti-submarine cruisers, large missile and anti-submarine ships, destroyers, previously also battleships, light and heavy cruisers) and nuclear submarines.
The second rank of ships in the Russian Navy includes diesel submarines, frigates, patrol ships of the far sea zone, large landing ships.
The third rank of ships includes small missile ships, small anti-submarine ships, patrol ships of the near sea zone, medium landing ships, and sea minesweepers.

[Sky strike fighter]

The most interesting thing is that Khabarovsk is the lead submarine of project 09851, like Yasen and Borey. The serial is being built according to project 09853. I think that Borey-A will replace Dolphin over time, Yasen-M will replace Antey, and project 09853 will replace Schuka-B, well in the NPL class, Lada should finally replace Varshavyanka.

[venik]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

The most interesting thing is that Khabarovsk is the lead submarine of project 09851, like Yasen and Borey. The serial is being built according to project 09853. I think that Borey-A will replace Dolphin over time, Yasen-M will replace Antey, and project 09853 will replace Schuka-B, well in the NPL class, Lada should finally replace Varshavyanka.

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May God grant you to quickly !!!

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

The most interesting thing is that Khabarovsk is the lead submarine of project 09851, like Yasen and Borey. The serial is being built according to project 09853.

She is not the head, but the only one.
There will be no further series.
09851
09852
09853

these are piece designs of individual production.
non-serial.

[Sky strike fighter]

Nothing of the kind. 985 project. Although you are right, the piece project is 09852, built from the backlog of the unfinished Antey. This is a special-purpose submarine, the rest are serial ones, they are even very displacement and visually noticeably different from the Belgorod project 09852 piece.

[2 Level Advisor]

Always reading the news, I look at what source, so as not to discuss. Odna Babka Said .. This news is pure OBS "source in the Defense Industrial Complex (OPK)"

[iouris]

Many people in the Pentagon want to know about this. Why do we need it?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: iouris

Many people in the Pentagon want to know about this. Why do we need it?

Do you think they know nothing there?

Firstly, on the tab “Khabarovsk” there was not a single representative of the GUGI. Secondly, until recently, not a single AGS had a name, especially since Khabarovsk itself is a city of military glory and most likely the name would have been assigned to either a missile carrier or a strike submarine. Well, and thirdly, there was not a single confirmation that the name “Wicket” was at least somehow connected with “Losharik”.

However, the mysterious “Wicket” was already mentioned in open sources in connection with another secret of the Russian Navy - a diesel submarine of project 20120 “Sarov”, whose story is no less intriguing than “Khabarovsk”.

to summarize the reasoning: with a high degree of probability Khabarovsk is not a nuclear deep-water station, but an experimental design team for the creation of a nuclear submarine with a fundamentally new nuclear power plant and power plant. In fact, Sevmash and the Rubin Central Design Bureau are already building a fifth-generation nuclear submarine, which is partially confirmed by the words of the Navy Commander-in-Chief at the Army 2015 forum.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/1427128.html

[Nikolaevich I]

Oh ... well, I don't like the name Poseidon! Every now and then I remember the American eroplane! I was a supporter of the Kraken! On that I stand and I will stand!

[Nikolaevich I]

PS By the way, there was still a Poseidon SLBM in the USA ... Therefore, once again ... Kraken! Kraken!

[Keeping]

The nuclear submarine Khabarovsk, in it Poseidon, in Poseidon Su-57, in Su-57 Armata, and in Armata the Constitution is new, and in the Constitution oil is 1.000 each, we’ll live like that))))

[Sky strike fighter]

You have already "healed" in yourself, so do not interfere with the life of others, if you yourself do not live as people.

[Keeping]

Yes, it is not easy for us in Sevastopol, the mainland landing is not one of the best people docked in the united harbor.

[Operator]

You already began to shine in Kiev from the Chernobyl smog

[Keeping]

Right, that's ridiculous! Chernobl is on fire! Ha ha ha ...
From Chernobyl to the Bryansk region 400 km. Oh damn how funny

[Keeping]

It was me and it was in Kiev)))
You should spend less time in self-isolation. Go to the balcony, vitamin D and fresh air, if it is, of course, will do good. Then you will not see Ukraine everywhere.

[Voyager]

32 Poseidon is not too much?

[Keeping]

There in the wheelhouse there will be an analogue of Pecheneg - Saracen and shoot Poseidons.

[Operator]

Quote: Kalmar

phallometry factor

This factor relates exclusively to terpiles such as cargo bodybuilders.

[Magistr]

will be launched at the end of May of this year.

Here are "gentlemen" and another cartoon ..And then they were laughing all over the world, like nonsense and show-offs ..

[ximkim]

This is an expensive pleasure with the Poseidons and the carriers .. Why am I writing this, because this project is expensive (since this device has a nuclear installation, and a combat filling (also nuclear)) Next .. After a virtual presentation of this object, the GDP is sent to the Federal Assembly . (which was broadcast to the whole world), peace did not come, NATO found an excuse to justify its actions and encircle the Russian Federation in a ring. Although, even without Poseidon, NATO is doing everything to ensure that all members of the military bloc and other countries look at Russia through the sight, and since everyone is looking through the sight, it is necessary to change the military doctrine and developments. We need to develop autonomous robotic systems: in the air, on land, and under / above water (without nuclear charges). Nuclear shells are already enough for the entire planet, but the reflection of a nuclear strike, while no one has yet boasted of these systems. that there is, or a missile defense is being developed, and the statements do not shoot down a nuclear warhead ..

[Pandiurin]

Quote: March 53rd

Is it technically feasible for the Khabarovsk nuclear submarine to transport foodstuffs from the United States to the Russian Federation, in particular, "Bush's legs"?

Submarine smuggling is usually not from the United States, but rather into the states.
And not Bush’s legs but coke.

An interesting look at the delivery of Poseidons to the "partner's" coast as contraband ...
Logistically, the task is the same, secretly deliver the "hot" goods to the Americans)

[Peter is not the first]

I don’t know how with Bush’s legs, as a cargo for nuclear submarines, but at the end of the 20th century we seriously discussed the use of the Shark Project 941 TRPKSN as transports for transporting coal to the NSR.

[Charik]

Do not fucking rubbish, coke if anything the tsrushniki themselves deliver, they will still harness the Russians to the nuclear submarines, it’s necessary to divide the floor

[SovAr238A]

There will be no Poseidons in Khabarovsk.

Khabarovsk is a purely reconnaissance and sabotage submarine.
This is a complete analogue of the tasks of the American "Jimmy Carter".

That's all.
She certainly will have torpedo weapons.
But there will be no numerous "Caliber" and "Zircon" launchers on it.
She has completely different tasks.

Exploration, search and recovery of enemy equipment from the day of the sea and ocean, work with communication cables and other special operations.

[Sky strike fighter]

In Khabarovsk there will still be Poseidons and torpedoes. Do not confuse project 09851 Khabarovsk with a special purpose boat of project 09852 Belgorod.

Exploration, search and recovery of enemy equipment from the day of the sea and ocean, work with communication cables and other special operations.

This quote is true only for Belgorod.

But there will be no numerous "Caliber" and "Zircon" launchers on it.
She has completely different tasks.

That's right, but they (YP) will be with Yasen-M, the heir to the Antei project, sharpened by the fight against AUGs and surface ships, and Khabarovsk will have several other tasks similar to those of the Shchuk-B project, since the emphasis will be on torpedoes and the fight against submarines.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

In Khabarovsk there will still be Poseidons and torpedoes. Do not confuse project 09851 Khabarovsk with a special purpose boat of project 09852 Belgorod.

Exploration, search and recovery of enemy equipment from the day of the sea and ocean, work with communication cables and other special operations.

This quote is true only for Belgorod.

But there will be no numerous "Caliber" and "Zircon" launchers on it.
She has completely different tasks.

That's right, but they (YP) will be with Yasen-M, the heir to the Antei project, sharpened by the fight against AUGs and surface ships, and Khabarovsk will have several other tasks similar to those of the Shchuk-B project, since the emphasis will be on torpedoes and the fight against submarines.

Something you just carry some nonsense ...

Khabarovsk is a purely reconnaissance and sabotage nuclear submarine.
It is made on the basis of Borea.
The entire missile compartment is fully dedicated to special equipment and lock cameras.

On the boat, in addition to the main GAS, there will be two monstrous GAS side view.
And she’ll finally have a water cannon. The first on our submarine.

Все.

There are no PUs for missiles, Poseidons, and other heresies in Khabarovsk.

Belogorod is just the bearer of Losharik and his brother.
Same. like Orenburg.
Only more modern.

[Sky strike fighter]

Khabarovsk is a purely reconnaissance and sabotage nuclear submarine.
It is made on the basis of Borea.

Ingenious. Especially the first phrase from the quote. There are no such things in nature. More than 2 times more in displacement than Khabarovsk 09851. For your information.

The entire missile compartment is fully dedicated to special equipment and lock cameras.

There are no PUs for missiles, Poseidons, and other heresies in Khabarovsk.

Epic. You won’t say anything. Do you think this is a subversive submarine without any weapons? Everything is clear with you.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Epic. You won’t say anything. Do you think this is a subversive submarine without any weapons? Everything is clear with you.

Do you know anything about Jimmy Carter in your life?

I guarantee that Khabarovsk was made on the basis of Borea.

And you write what you want ...

[Sky strike fighter]

Do you know anything about Jimmy Carter in your life?

Do you know if you write this?

There are no PUs for missiles, Poseidons, and other heresies in Khabarovsk.

And at the same time, you compare Khabarovsk with the shock submarine Sea Wolf of the subtype Jimmy Carter, carrying 50 Tomahawk CR.

After the collapse of the USSR and the subsequent economic collapse, a powerful Soviet fleet became history, and plans to build 29 sea wolves (the total cost of the first series of 12 ships increased to 33.6 billion dollars) were seriously cut, resulting in water only three submarines of two main subtypes were launched: Seawolf, Connecticut (subtype of Seawolf) and Jimmy Carter (subtype of Jimmy Carter).

By the time the boat was launched (May 13, 2004), the SSN-23 received an additional section, known as the Multi-Mission Platform, as a result of which the length of the submarine was a record for the US strike submarine. Inside the section there was a lock chamber (Dry Deck Shelter), a reconfigurable command compartment, a reconfigurable cargo compartment, as well as a remote control system for underwater vehicles (Advanced SEAL Delivery System), which made it possible to output drones and midgets through the side door of the SSN-23 without resorting them to launch through a torpedo tube. In addition to this, Jimmy Carter received an improved communication mast designed to transmit large amounts of data, including from under water, as well as special shunting engines (two front on the sides and two rear on the sides), allowing the submarine hover over the ocean floor or maneuver over its surface.

If necessary, "Jimmy Carter" could carry on board 50 commandos or combat swimmers along with their equipment.

SSN-23 Jimmy Carter / Seawolf - class
Displacement: 7,568 t. (Surface) / 12,139 t. (Underwater)
Length: 138 m.
Width: 12.1 m
Maximum immersion depth: 490 m.
Power plant: S6W nuclear reactor, shunting engine
Propulsion: Main water-jet propulsion and 2-4 thrusters
Speed: 18 knots (surface) / 35 knots (underwater) or 25 knots (underwater, official)
Combat Range: Unlimited
Crew: 14 officers + 126 sailors + 50 paratroopers (in the case of a special mission)
Armament: 8x660mm torpedo tubes (50 Tomahawk / Garpunov / mk48 torpedoes)

https://mr-garett.livejournal.com/136722.html

I guarantee that Khabarovsk was made on the basis of Borea.

Maybe you wanted to say not on the basis of Borea, but on the basis of Borea technologies, because the Rubin Central Design Bureau is involved in the development of both the Borey and the Khabarovsk class nuclear submarines?

[PN]

The article is a complete lie not true.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: PN

The article is a complete lie not true.

Are you lying? And what then do you think is true?

Quote: Nikolai-1970

I agree.
This has already been said many times.
Most likely, cunning guys sat down on the President’s ears, pushing through a deliberately failed and unpromising project.
And people do not die in trials for the first time and accidents ....
But it’s a very monetary topic.

Funny. Well, how are children right?