Military doctors of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Italy are engaged in the treatment of the most severe patients

Russian military physicians based in Italy who help in the fight against coronavirus infection are treating the most severe patients. It is reported by the Ministry of Defense.

Reportedly, Russian specialists have deployed a field hospital in Bergamo, to which 70 patients with a complicated course of the disease were referred for treatment. At the hospital, Russian doctors work together with Italian doctors, 29 people have already recovered, they all left the hospital and went home, 41 more are still being treated. It is noted that for the entire existence of the hospital there was not a single fatal outcome, and eight people left the intensive care unit, managed by Russian specialists.

The Ministry of Defense does not explain why it was the Russian military doctors who were entrusted with the treatment of the most difficult patients, but Italy highly appreciates the professionalism of doctors from Russia, speaking of them as specialists who can save the most difficult patients.

The first weeks of work yielded very important results. This hospital made it possible to facilitate the activities of the main hospital of the province. This also applies to working with patients with low and moderate severity of the disease, and patients in the intensive care unit. But the main thing is that so far there is not a single fatal outcome in this hospital.

- said the head of the field hospital Oliviero Volotti.

Recall that, as a help to combat the coronavirus, the Russian Ministry of Defense sent eight medical teams, specialists from the Russian Chechen-Chemical Plant and special equipment to Italy.

Meanwhile, it became known that in Italy the second day there has been a decrease in the total number of patients with coronavirus, but the pandemic is still far from the end. On the morning of April 22, 183957 officially infected with coronavirus were officially registered in Italy, 24648 died, 51600 people recovered.

Comments

[Sergey Nemov]

We would like to be proud of our doctors in the homeland, and secondarily somewhere in Italy or Serbia.

[Mavrikiy]

recovered - 51600 people

Who knows which program is in the virus. It is possible that these are carriers of the "sleeping" virus. An international institute needs to be created to study this virus.

[Sergey Nemov]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Who knows what program is in the virus?

If you mean the man-made origin of the virus, it means that the vaccine is already there.
If the origin is natural, then you have to smash your head, but the world is arranged in such a way that everything is balanced, including if there is poison, that is, an antidote.

[New Year day]

Quote: Sergey Nemov

If you mean the man-made origin of the virus, it means that the vaccine is already there.

if 20 mutations of the virus are already known, then the vaccine is somehow useless, or it should be against all strains, which is not realistic

[Sergey Nemov]

Quote: Silvestr

if 20 mutations of the virus are already known, then the vaccine is somehow useless, or it should be against all strains, which is not realistic

I agree with you, my words were just a metaphor and I want to draw your attention to the human immune system and generally to its still unexplored possibilities that modern medicine cannot explain, this is a matter of the near future.

[New Year day]

Quote: Sergey Nemov

... modern medicine cannot explain

what a virus. what is the pathogenesis of the disease and how to treat, what is the outcome

Quote: Sergey Nemov

this is a matter of the near future.

perhaps, but how much time to die. But a new strain or virus will appear and that's it from the beginning.
This is the dialectic of our life

[Tatyana]

The main thing is that our military doctors all return home LIVING and HEALTHY!
Good luck and prosperity to all those medical workers who treat, rather than cripple, the people!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sergey Nemov

We would like to be proud of our doctors in the homeland, and secondarily somewhere in Italy or Serbia.

Wherever our doctors are, you should always be proud of them.

[Dysindich]

That is Sergey Nemov:
"... We would like to be proud of our doctors in our homeland, and in the second place somewhere in Italy or Serbia .."
=========================
And what, there is no reason for pride in the homeland?
There is, therefore - be proud to the full !!
And it is not necessary to crave help from military doctors (all the more so when you do not quite understand the goals and objectives of this special contingent, therefore, you misjudge the reasons for his stay in Italy), and the civilian sector demonstrates dedication and heroism. Moreover, in such a difficult situation, in the presence of a huge number of protesting idiots who are irresponsible about the life of others.

[Cananecat]

Quote: Sergey Nemov

We would like to be proud of our doctors in the homeland, and secondarily somewhere in Italy or Serbia.

Be proud of those who are nearby and those who are loving, because they will return home sometime.

[bogart047]

I would not want to bring to such a situation when military doctors would have to intervene in their homeland in order to be proud of them later.

[iouris]

"And they will cure you. And they will cure me ..."

[Navat]

If our military doctors are so good, then why are Russian rich people and officials treated in Israel and Germany, and not our military doctors?

[Mavrikiy]

Italy highly appreciates the work of Russian military doctors

And then we do not know that we are the best!

[kjhg]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Italy highly appreciates the work of Russian military doctors

And then we do not know that we are the best!

Best of what? In senility? When do airplanes send masks, ventilators, antiseptics, etc., at a time when they are in short supply in our country? I don’t want to be proud of the marasmic behavior of my leadership. This may be a sign of their own mental disorders.

[Lopatov]

Quote: kjhg

Best of what? In senility?

In humanity ...
Are you sure that we should be the best in greed?

[New Year day]

Quote: Spade

In humanity ...
Are you sure that we should be the best in greed?

humanity is good.
Maxim Starinsky, a urologist from 3 hospitals with war invalids, thrown into a breakthrough for treating patients with the virus without personal protective equipment died yesterday in Kommunarka. He was 56 years old. Earlier, in Sverdlovsk, a 67-year-old radiologist died, assisting Covid-19 patients without personal protective equipment (they did not give out)
What we do not store, lost, crying

[yfast]

A plasma with antibodies from ill primarily sick doctors, and it is not clear who does not try to transfuse?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Silvestr

without PPE

This is the negligence of administrators in their purest form.
Because there is a PPE. In sufficient quantities. Moreover, there is an active accumulation of reserves.

[New Year day]

Quote: Spade

Because there is a PPE.

somewhere there, somewhere not. Here they appeared in a MONTH after taking the first patients. All pioneers are already sick

[Lopatov]

Quote: Silvestr

somewhere there, somewhere not.

This is the fucking job
Plus the notorious "lumpy disease" (c) I am more than sure that many medical institutions that are not even really affected have "subcutaneous reserves" for a rainy day, nowhere reflected, and which will never be used. Rotten to hell.

[Gardamir]

In humanity

What is so special about your humanity? you are humane for import, but for Russians you even disdain to discuss.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gardamir

What is so special about your humanity?

Normal not greedy.
For example, I sewed a dozen masks last week. He put aside five of us, he distributed the rest to the neighbors.

And you would not only not distribute, you would also take away from your neighbors what they have. For "your shirt is closer to your body."

[Gardamir]

And you would not only not distribute, you would also take away from your neighbors what they have. For "your shirt is closer to your body."

Tales to me are yours to one place. In Russia, there are really not enough doctors and your masks are not enough, maybe the Italians in your neighbors.
You can normally answer why, when there is a deficit of everything in Russia, it is necessary to "help" foreigners?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gardamir

Tales to me are yours to one place.

See, you cannot even believe that someone is giving stitched masks to others. So this does not correspond to your life principles.

Socialist, damn it

[Gardamir]

See, you cannot even believe that someone is giving stitched masks to others. So this does not correspond to your life principles.
Socialist, damn it

you are probably still an honorable troll. everyone is playing. but I live here. People are not even put in hospitals because there is nowhere. They will survive well, no, so the galoshes are to blame.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Gardamir

People are not even put in hospitals because there is nowhere.

And where is that?

[New Year day]

Quote: Spade

And where is that?

2 of my friends doctors with coronovirus are treated at home. Temperature 39 ° C, but at home

[Lopatov]

Quote: Silvestr

2 of my friends doctors with coronovirus are treated at home. Temperature 39 ° C, but at home

Moscow.
Panyatna ....
And we all put, even before confirmation.

[Okolotochny]

People are not even put in hospitals because there is nowhere.

Gardamir, stop lying and spreading Panic. Under Stalin, you would also have been in Kommunarka, only in a ditch with a shot in the face. They do not put those who have a mild degree and are asymptomatic, they do the right thing, they do not repeat the sad experience of Italy. There, everyone was put in the hospital when the diagnosis was confirmed. And when they beat them to the bone, they realized that it was SHVAKH, and they began to choose who to live and who not, guided by the principle of "revolutionary self-awareness". There was not enough medical staff, medicines, protective equipment, mechanical ventilation, and then generally SHVACH, when the lungs began to turn into heavy ones.

[Lexus]

Oh-whether, "truth-teller" drew? Which was repeatedly attacked for lying on the "pomelo".
Explain to us, asymptomatic shameless, what is the likelihood of household members of avoiding infection, being in the same living space with "easy". And at the same time, boast of where in the "intramkadnom" settlement there are enough doctors, or rather, they are grabbing instead of those who were initially missing in the state and dropped out due to illness. How volunteers are gathered throughout the country to fight the infection, promising food and a bed. On the ruins of "optimized" medicine.

[Okolotochny]

Oh, a whining foreign car appeared. Yes, yes, shout louder "We will all die" !!! In Kommunarka, in the ditch, they would have rolled you ahead of Gardamir's friend.

Which was repeatedly attacked for lying on the "pomelo".

Chatterbox, bring the facts .. And stop crying, otherwise your tears already appear through the monitor.

[Okolotochny]

As always - only slogans and verbal diarrhea. Go get some rest, otherwise I rolled it over the "leader's" birthday and fluffed up the feathers.

[Lexus]

As always - only slogans and verbal diarrhea.

Eco sulked with you. Read as recognition. Hurry to run only.

feathers unmasked.

Fortunately, I'm not in your camarilla. It is customary for you to boast of cardboard shoulder straps and feathers. The rest of the shobla, I see, is already diligently plus-minus and trying to lick the feathers from the "breakthrough". Allow everyone to crawl out of the shadows!

[NN52]

Lexus (Alex)

Pravdorub, something is a little incomprehensible ... you were banned without the right to correspond on the site? How did you come here again? Agreed?
Strange ...

[Lexus]

Pannochka, as much as she wants, can call on ghouls and ghouls for help, Homa cannot be made of me. And I'm not going to confess to the "sisters". I don't know how old you are, but the habit of being rude at first (not today) and then trying to establish a dialogue is very similar to an intestinal disorder in an elderly person. When something flew out, as if by accident, during a conversation, but not from where it was decent. Only you, unlike them, do it on purpose. Poke each other.

[NN52]

Lexus (Alex)

And why is this passage in your performance ???
And I just asked about the ban ... it became interesting (and the truth is about your ban)
And yes, I'm 47 years old)
You’re not childishly burning ...

[Okolotochny]

Probably broke (handed over) someone, for a barrel of jam and a basket of cookies.

[Svarog51]

Alexey But with this phrase, what do you want to say?

Allow everyone to crawl out of the shadows!

Are you an admin or moderator? Can you explain this passage? I am Svarog too, but not that one - we are different. Yes - I am "Order", but I have learned the rules of the site and do not allow myself to prevail on my mind. Yes - a little "give in" and at the same time behave adequately and politely. Taught already.
Keep yourself in control This is not advice, but a wish. Circumstances can be changed - if desired, or can be made worse if you do not pay attention to others.

[Terenin]

Quote: lexus

you can try on a "Colombian tie" for this and lose the feathers from the rainbow tail.

This is where so frightened were brought up?
By the way, it is written in quotation marks like this: Vicki: "Colombian tie" (Spanish Corbata colombiana) is a form of violent killing, in which a deep cut is made on the victim's throat and the tongue is pulled out through the hole formed, creating a kind of tie.

[Lexus]

This is where so frightened were brought up?

Obviously not where the scared ones, who alone cannot give out anything clever. And even a crowd poke others in the face with Wikipedia, like some holy scripture. However, I did not expect anything else from the sect of the "Order Sisters". I don't see men in that corner.

[Terenin]

Quote: lexus

Obviously not where scared,

It can be seen

Quote: lexus

which alone can not give out anything smart.

of course, the degree of "cleverness" will be determined ... you

Quote: lexus

And even the crowd poke others in the face of Wikipedia, what a holy scripture.

even a crowd "pokes her muzzle into her mug" A.P. Chekhov. Vanka and you still don’t understand that you are writing a threat

Quote: lexus

However, I did not expect anything else from the sect of the "Order Sisters". I don't see men in that corner.

when there is nothing to answer there is still a way ... to "get to the bottom" of the spelling

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: lexus

This is where so frightened were brought up?

Obviously not where the scared ones, who alone cannot give out anything clever. And even a crowd poke others in the face with Wikipedia, like some holy scripture. However, I did not expect anything else from the sect of the "Order Sisters". I don't see men in that corner.

oh well ... such a pretentious speech, but on the resource where the Sabbath is in the comments from the "communists" ?? !!!!

[Okolotochny]

What about Sha? Are you still from the prison past?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Okolotochny

In Kommunarka in a ditch you would be driven forward by a friend of Gardamir.

and it can be in the mines ??? !!!

[Okolotochny]

As volunteers are gathered across the country to fight the infection, promising grub and a bed.
Collect at gunpoint? Or do people go by themselves? People go by themselves. And mind you, DO NOT Cry like you.

[Lexus]

People only learned to rely on themselves - and this can hardly be attributed to what the country should be proud of. A lot of window dressing in this volunteering.
I don’t understand why all these attempts to stick the word Cry to me? Your idol is crying after rigged elections. Crocodile tears.
It's no longer fun to distort my nickname and associate it with a well-known automaker. I have personally explained to you that there is no relationship. And I don’t care what kind of dementia prompts opponents to cling to nickname and avatar from time to time. Not capable of anything more, Field Marshal Cucumber?
Yes, why don’t you go to the volunteers, how can you tear the throat and risk life from others? A little!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: lexus

People only learned to rely on themselves - and this can hardly be attributed to what the country should be proud of.

The war was won by half because people knew how to rely on themselves. And in general, a person who is unable to "rely on" (read "answer for") is not a person, but a domestic animal ... like a cat, for example

Quote: lexus

A lot of window dressing in this volunteering

Examples in the studio. Or balabol.

Quote: lexus

I don’t understand why all these attempts to stick the word Cry to me?

Why glue something? It is nailed there with nails. Two hundredth

[Lexus]

Or balabol

Or "Fu!" Your advice to Svarog does not suit me.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: lexus

Or "Fu!"

More accurate. We try again:

Quote: lexus

A lot of window dressing in this volunteering

Examples in the studio. Buddy Or do not answer for words?

[Okolotochny]

A lot of window dressing in this volunteering.

You at least do it.

Field Marshal Cucumber?

I also served in the army, and I have shoulder straps. And someone, due to illness, "cut" from the service. And, "Leksyasha"? Didn't want to go to serve? Therefore, go "pain" further and do not go to adult uncles, otherwise you can get hurt in the pope.

[Lexus]

I just served, not served. In a holster, not a cucumber wore, in contrast. And Chechnya, as I remember with my five fingers. Yes, it did not happen to become a Soviet officer, but the Russian officers did not shame. Confused, cucumber, as usual. The fact that you were here in a flock of maltz, Antokha, was poisoned, which you didn’t get into the army because of your eyesight, although you really wanted it, it didn’t do you any honor. He was then the only man in the midst of your scoffs and weeping. But sclerosis is a merciless thing, even when the only gyrus in the head and that is the trace of the cap. So, I don’t see any reason to argue with aunts. Perepopyat. It’s dangerous to attach to my priest, take care of each other, as usual. And your idol. He loves these.

[Okolotochny]

What is Chechnya? Where did he serve in Chechnya? Or like a sling cutter in Afghanistan? Also, in a dream under a pillow? What is your rank, officer? And for Chechnya - exactly where and when?
And for the priests - is this your sore subject?

[Lexus]

And who asks? Do you have the right? I will not respond to boorish attacks - it is too much of a hassle. An article will be published about the glorious "Chechen exploits" of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, in general, and the riot police, in particular, then many "heroes" will refresh their memories of imitation of shelling, "combat" wounds, crammed "cows" in Khankala and columns / trains with loot, if anything. So let the dancer get ready. For today it remains to check in S-51, ser (g) 65 and "Greek".

[Lexus]

cheap pontorez like sling cutter

The habit of writing badly about a person when he cannot answer, just a sign

women with low social responsibility

In a woman's way, quite a bit. So leave your underestimated life experience with you. And to their mourners, "sisters". You look, the cardboard generalissimo is crying. Or...

[Lexus]

Oh how! And for H ... you have to answer, unsettled. As well as for all "merits" in times of Troubles, namely, complicity in a crime, and "swipe".

[Okolotochny]

The questioner you have not grown. So where were you in Chechnya and in what year? Nowhere have you been, liberoid.

[Lexus]

You will also see the "asker", the attendant (s) of the main, 0-liberoid.

[NN52]

Lexus (Alex)

And it seems that somewhere it slipped from you that you had something to do with the marines? What is it like???

[Okolotochny]

It’s also like Slinging for landing in Afghanistan, the wet dreams of those who squinted from the army. And now here they are building themselves cool. Yes, spit only on these pontorezov.

[Okolotochny]

Anton, is it a Stroporez? Ah, Leksyasha, comrade. You have handed over the whole, you will get candy! Well done! And then the Stroporezushka positions itself as a steep VDVeshnik, but it turns out to be cheap show-offs! Thank you, we will know. So you wrote in the comment that you didn’t pass through health? About half a year ago? Well, tomorrow I’ll dig into your comments, poke you in your excrement.

[Lexus]

Here is this kid.

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I allow a snack.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: lexus

Yes, why don’t you go to the volunteers, how can you tear the throat and risk taking others to risk your life?

it would be more suitable for you and your associates !!!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: lexus

Which was repeatedly attacked for lying on the "pomelo".

who caught ??? which of the comic magazines dragged here Old as the truth ?? !!!

[New Year day]

Quote: Okolotochny

There they put everyone in a hospital in a row with the confirmation of the diagnosis.

Alexei! and we have it! Moreover, lawsuits are already being prepared for those who came with banal pneumonia, and earned COVID in the general chamber. That's it

[Okolotochny]

Sylvester, it is not so with us, it is not so with us, they made a hospital from the district hospital to serve 5 districts for this infection, only medium and heavy ones are lying. Lungs and asymptomatic on self-isolation, under remote control (by phone). Perhaps you put everyone, because there are enough beds.

Moreover, lawsuits are already being prepared for those who came with banal pneumonia, and earned COVID in the general chamber. That's it

And this simply indicates criminal negligence, and not a systematic approach.

[New Year day]

Quote: Okolotochny

And this simply indicates criminal negligence

unfortunately it's these days ...

Quote: Okolotochny

systems approach.

Alas!

[Okolotochny]

Sylvester, do not be like frostbitten and frostbitten communists (posts above), do not pull out phrases from the general context, I had a better opinion of you.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Okolotochny

Sylvester, do not be like frostbitten and frostbitten communists

he doesn’t try - he is so !! True, the Communists must use quotation marks !!

[New Year day]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

he doesn’t try - he is so !!

yes, I am like this! Because people like you, and with your consent, destroyed medicine. Patients and doctors die because of people like you.

[New Year day]

Quote: Okolotochny

Sylvester, do not be like frostbitten and frostbitten communists (posts above), do not pull out phrases from the general context, I had a better opinion of you.

Isn't that a system?
1. Dozens of doctors became infected with coronavirus in a hospital in Lyubertsy
2. Adygea. On April 14, the first victim of COVID-19 was registered. In the republican Adyghe hospital, a doctor died, who on the eve of the resuscitation specialist was connected to the ECMO apparatus. He was 46 years old.
3. Sochi. At 15 medical workers revealed a coronavirus infection. Most of the infected are ambulance staff.
4. Ufa. 170 health workers have confirmed COVID-19.
5. In St. Petersburg and the Leningrad region, seven hospitals and two maternity hospitals immediately went to quarantine because of the coronavirus.
6. Two more quarantine hospitals were closed in Perm, where the coronavirus was confirmed in both patients and doctors.
and the main problem is that PPE was not issued anywhere and even existing orders were not executed. Is this a system or not a system?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Okolotochny

Under Stalin, you would also be in Kommunark, only in a ditch with a shot face.

maybe better in the mines ??? !!!

[Okolotochny]

Do you live in VO? So go to hospitals, help people.

[New Year day]

Quote: Spade

I sewed a dozen masks last week.

the question is why? The effectiveness of your masks is 0, but in terms of psychotherapy - 100%

[Lopatov]

Quote: Silvestr

the question is why? The effectiveness of your masks 0

Are you clairvoyant?

[New Year day]

Quote: Spade

Are you clairvoyant?

no. just the effectiveness of the mask has long been known, but the mask has a mobilizing effect on the person.
Respirators are not lower than 95% and that does not guarantee safety, masks - even more so. The main problem of masks is the suction of air past it at the entrance due to a loose fit to the face. Gauze masks against the virus, no matter how due to the material of manufacture

[Lopatov]

Quote: Silvestr

The main problem of masks is the suction of air past it at the entrance due to a loose fit to the face.

That is not clairvoyant.
This is not my option.
I sewed a respiratory. With nose wire and cotton / non-woven pocket

[venik]

Quote: kjhg

This may be a sign of their own mental disorders.

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Uh-huh! Especially among some "Voroshilov shooters"!

[Malyuta]

Quote: venik

Uh-huh! Especially among some "Voroshilov shooters"!

Tuut the grandmother said in two, it seems to me that the "brooms" suffered the most.

[venik]

Quote: Malyuta

Tuut

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Excuse me, are you an Estonian by any chance? (So ​​simple - interesting!)
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Quote: Malyuta

that "brooms" "suffered the most

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Sorry one more time! AND WHAT exactly "at" the broom "stronger" sufferedИ"?
PS Well this is necessary! In ONE short phrase - 3 (three!) Grammatical mistakes, not counting syntactic ones ...... Malyuta, what is not by chance a "victim of the exam" ??? It seems that at the time of I. Grozny there was no USE yet ... Or ALREADY there was?

[aszzz888]

The Ministry of Defense does not explain why it was the Russian military doctors who were entrusted with the treatment of the most difficult patients,

I repeat, our military doctors are some of the best by profession. Therefore, the assessment of their work is very high. Health to you, military doctors.

[Magistr]

Quote: aszzz888

I repeat, our military doctors are some of the best by profession. Therefore, the assessment of their work is very high. Health to you, military doctors.

I am joining! The USSR has tremendous experience in the fight against every contagion and the methods have been developed precisely in practice. Another question is that it is practically difficult to quickly defeat a different infection, it is a long-term and at the state level processes .. God bless them !!! I can’t add anything else ..

[Svarog51]

master I'm afraid to upset you, but they can minus you for a nickname, not for your words. There is a mess on the site related to this title. You just do not be offended that you are being treated unfairly, this is by inertia. I can’t explain in more detail, but beware of shots intended not for you.

[Magistr]

Quote: Svarog51

Master hi I'm afraid to upset you, but they can minus you for a nickname, not for your words. There is a mess on the site related to this title. You just do not be offended that you are being treated unfairly, this is by inertia. I can’t explain in more detail, but beware of shots intended not for you.

Yes, I know Sergey, thanks for the advice ..
You also have teska here ..)))
But I’m used to getting cons, I beat with the verb all kind of liberalism .. they’re like .. khe khe
And the nickname is coming and going ..

[Svarog51]

Sorry Why did I "slow down" yesterday
Now everything fell into place.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: aszzz888

I repeat, our military doctors are some of the best by profession.

THE BEST ... without any "one of" !!!

[The leader of the Redskins]

They do the holy work. Bow to them earthly, health and success in the fight against infection.

[DMB 75]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

They do the holy work.

Exactly.

[rocket757]

I wish you success in your work and may all be well!

[Doccor18]

Written, once again, confirmed that the survival rate of even severe patients with coronovirus directly depends on the professionalism of medical workers. Here is the answer, why in some countries mortality is more than 5%, and in others less than 0,2%.

[Magistr]

Quote: Doccor18

Written, once again, confirmed that the survival rate of even severe patients with coronovirus directly depends on the professionalism of medical workers.

So yes, that's just universal vaccination of the population was very much developed during the Soviet era (maybe this is the whole thing?)!
Now it’s certainly not that, but doctors are still trying to somehow control it, but it’s becoming more difficult .. I remember in February I called personally and asked to come for a vaccine (they do the scheduled every 10 years) .. just come and we will do everything quickly. . Promised, but never came, and now I'm sorry

[knn54]

I wonder if there are many citizens in Italy who fall under Shoigu's latest order on the "list" of civilians who can turn to military doctors for help?

[a.hamster55]

With equipment and supplies of medicine in our province is difficult. They urgently resolve this issue, but deliveries will begin only in mid-May, and also to install oxygen pipelines. And there will be a plug with medical oxygen. But the doctors are really great, unlike most Western colleagues, ours are trying to treat the disease, not its symptoms.

[New Year day]

Quote: a.hamster55

ours are trying to cure the disease, not its symptoms.

those. Are Italian doctors, German, Spanish bad? Treat symptoms? Or maybe syndromes?
on the basis of what do you have such a profound conclusion?

[a.hamster55]

So seen enough reviews about the local insurance medicine from our former compatriots. For example, in Germany - a reception with a survey and filling out a computer survey program, and the diagnosis is ready. As a result, if your head hurts, then here's a prescription for pain medication, alles. Look this is very interesting.

[reservist]

Quote: a.hamster55

For example, in Germany - a reception with a survey and filling out a computer survey program, and the diagnosis is ready.

in what land in Germany is it?
Maybe it's still an analogue of our paper medical records?

At the beginning of the epidemic, the Germans were discharged from hospital for a cold in general "by phone" for a week ... now they seem to have already stopped ...

[a.hamster55]

In which land I do not know I watched this blogger on YouTube, but not all. He works as a welder at a shipyard and somehow fell ill. This is actually a computer diagnostic program and it has many questions with answer options. Where does your head hurt? - front - back - in the center. You answer and the doctor ticks the monitor. Etc.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Silvestr

those. Are Italian doctors, German, Spanish bad?

judging by the situation with coronavirus in their countries, they are not there at all !!!

[a.hamster55]

As without doctors, they are everywhere, but the grenades of the wrong system. Ours and then at first confused and with the supply of trouble.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: a.hamster55

As without doctors, they are everywhere, but the grenades of the wrong system. Ours and then at first confused and with the supply of trouble.

it's all tales in favor of the poor !!! with their supposedly incredible expenses on medicine, coupled with the supposedly unattainable level of Euro-American medicine praised all over the world, right now, we and China should have buried the dead from coronavirus in hundreds of thousands, and they should have peace, calm, and grace !! however, we are seeing a very different picture !!!

PS ... after all that has happened, America looks very rzhichno and ironic in the first place in the ranking of preparedness for epidemics !!! is not it??!!!!

[Magistr]

Quote: a.hamster55

But the doctors are really great, unlike most Western colleagues, ours are trying to treat the disease, not its symptoms.

That's right, they are terribly at risk, but there are practically no refuseniks ..

[anjey]

Recall that, as a help to combat the coronavirus, the Russian Ministry of Defense sent eight medical teams, specialists from the Russian Chechen-Chemical Plant and special equipment to Italy.

It’s interesting that they will fly to Uryupinsk to save people if the situation worsens, or only for the Moscow elite have trained in Italy? Seeing the situation with medicine in the regions, sometimes you’re just messing around — what did our rulers with oligators bring optimizations to the country.

[Varyag71]

In Uryupensk there is no real estate of officials, all sorts of sixes, like Solovyov and any other rabble. It will even be beneficial for them if Uryupinsk dies all. For them, this is a net profit and the implementation of a plan to reduce the population.

[anjey]

People’s authorities are not important, people’s authorities are not needed.

[Ural resident]

Quote: anjey

People’s authorities are not important, people’s authorities are not needed.

it was possible to get by with smaller amounts - since March, tourist trips abroad were forbidden and simply compensated for the cost of these trips from the budget.

[reservist]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

could do with smaller amounts - since March ...

maybe it was necessary before, as soon as those infected in Europe appeared ...

... prohibit trips abroad and simply compensate for the cost of these trips from the budget.

here, too, I cannot master why it was not ahead of schedule to "bury" only the tourist business and air transportation (all the same, this business was covered, only already with everyone) and gain time for preparation ...
but there is someone to learn besides China - Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Germany ...

[Lexus]

but there is someone to learn besides China - Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Germany

The namesake, all the countries of Indochina and Australia worked very clearly there. Relatively small numbers of cases and low mortality. Now the region is recovering. And here everything is just beginning.
And here is a curious video from the place where it is not customary to "isolate oneself" from today's problems in the residence and to brush aside endless, empty in essence and content, "appeals". From that country, which the Urya-patriots fiercely hate and lust at the same time. Where the "horns" of the central channels like to rest.

[reservist]

try to leave without a population a population with almost 400 million trunks in their hands ...

[Lexus]

Will go to a meeting not requiring approval

[Lopatov]

Interesting guy on the avatar ... In the Confederate.

[anjey]

Next time I'll find you in a hat with earflaps

[Lopatov]

At the same time, change your nickname, it hurts Polish ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: anjey

I am for internationalism

For international participation in the affairs of Russia?
It hurts a lot of you, "internationalists" have appeared on this site ... It starts to get boring.

[anjey]

I would like to see a "grain of good" in any nation, even in the Jews, but alas, modern politics, the media, the Nazis, radicals, Wahhabis, Bandera and any other black hundred, are doing their job of desecrating people ...

[anjey]

I thought smart people on VO first of all evaluate comments and then all sorts of nicknames

[anjey]

So I’m thinking which one to choose. -Soops? Rake? Sohatov ???

Quote: Spade

At the same time, change your nickname, it hurts Polish ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: anjey

It’s interesting that they will fly to Uryupinsk to save people

Ага.
And even in Szczecin any ... Because people.

That's it, Anjey, that's it ...

[sanik2020]

Doctors have earned respect and pride, they are at the forefront and sharper than others are aware of all the danger and responsibility. Well, the leadership, why be proud of it, at the top, everyone knows what is floating.

[OLEG_ZOTOV]

It’s good that we, in difficult times, remained human and helped even NATO enemies

[Varyag71]

Great dumbness! Enemies must be remembered and known! Or does someone think that people have changed?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Varyag71

Or does someone think that people have changed?

The main thing is not to change yourself

[anjey]

Gorby also helped them somehow well ....... and ...... I’m not against helping the West, this is a good political move, but also my own so that our leaders would not forget and eliminate shortcomings in their penates, so that there would be no "shoemakers without boots" in Russia.

[FIR FIR]

I hope that these specialists, returning to their homeland, will make an invaluable contribution to the fight against this disease.

[Pvi1206]

And in Russia, military doctors have nothing to do? ... something is not reported about this ...

[Ural resident]

"died - 24648, recovered - 51600 people."
it turns out lethality of about 50%?

[Avior]

die quickly, recover slowly
until it ends, no conclusions can be drawn

[reservist]

Yesterday, the NewYork Times published an article, the meaning of which is that in addition to the WHO data on the sick / cured / dead (from covid), which come from hospitals, there is data "from cemeteries", i.e. about the daily deaths (from all causes) in some metropolitan areas ...
the authors of the article compared the mortality statistics for the last month for the current and previous years with the WHO reports and over the last month counted an "additional" 28 thousand deaths ...

[Avior]

in Italy, in the towns in the north, they write that the number of death certificates has increased three to four times compared with the same period last year and two times more, even taking into account deaths from the coronovirus.
one of the explanations is that due to the influx of patients with coronovirus, the medical care of other patients has worsened

[reservist]

Quote: Avior

due to the influx of patients with coronovirus, the medical care of other patients has worsened

it is clear that doctors are busy with the throat ... but it is unlikely that ordinary patients in serious condition have completely stopped treating ... maybe they get sick in a mild form, but with serious consequences?

[Avior]

In the article in which I read this, there was an explanation about the delays in getting into intensive care for the patient due to overload of staff and the intensive care unit itself.
for example, you have to take to another hospital, etc.

[reservist]

I also can’t understand why they believe the ratio was not cured / died, but became sick / dead ...

[Avior]

because the patient can die in the first week, and he recovers in three weeks.
therefore, statistics on the dead are ahead of those on the recovered

[reservist]

thanks, got it ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Resident of the Urals

it turns out lethality of about 50%?

Does not work

in the territory of Italy officially registered 183957 infected died - 24648

Count from infected.

[Ural resident]

I did not write correctly, not 50% but a third, judging by the numbers. Of course, consider the number of cured. Of those who are now infected, someone else will be cured, someone will die.

[Ural resident]

I do not understand one more thing, what does "cured" mean? That is, his immunity completely killed the virus? Or have they mutually adapted? That is, a person simply becomes a carrier of a weakened virus?

[voyaka uh]

No. The virus either multiplies or dies.
If a person has recovered, then the viruses that were in that died.

[reservist]

... a hospital in Bergamo, to which 70 patients with a complicated course of the disease were referred for treatment. At the hospital, Russian doctors work together with Italian doctors, 29 people have already recovered, they all left the hospital and went home, 41 more are still being treated

do not take new ones to vacant places? the remaining will be treated and home?

[A. Privalov]

Somehow unnoticed, a sad event passed - last week, John McDaniel from Columbus, Ohio, died of coronavirus. It was the main "common man" of the United States and denier of the pandemic. He called the pandemic a "political trick" and the quarantine regime "nonsense."

"Are there really no people with eggs who can directly say: this COVID-19 is a propaganda ploy? Ask your friends and prove that I am wrong," He wrote on March 13 on his blog.

Two days later, McDaniel called the governor's quarantine regime, which included the closure of bars and restaurants, "stupid."

"He has no authority on this. If you are paranoid and so afraid of getting sick, then stay at home. But do not force others to sit locked up. This madness must be stopped!"

McDaniel was 60. He was the first victim of COVID-19 in Marion County.

[Shahno]

Quote: Navat

If our military doctors are so good, then why are Russian rich people and officials treated in Israel and Germany, and not our military doctors?

Don’t you understand? Your forces do more organizational work.
But they won’t get it out of the other world.
Ps. So the Italians need to organize the work. It will be necessary that something else, maybe they will ask us or the Germans ...

[yfast]

In Israel, they’re being pulled straight from the next world. Do you know the secret move? We eat all the birds with antibiotics, and then we are surprised before death.

[anjey]

Oh Wei, "Echo of Israel", I don’t want to list all those who were treated in your country and in Germany and eventually left for another world.

Quote: Shahno

Don’t you understand? Your forces do more organizational work.
But they won’t get it out of the other world.
Ps. So the Italians need to organize the work. It will be necessary that something else, maybe they will ask us or the Germans

[Doccor18]

Quote: Magistr

Quote: Doccor18

Written, once again, confirmed that the survival rate of even severe patients with coronovirus directly depends on the professionalism of medical workers.

So yes, that's just universal vaccination of the population was very much developed during the Soviet era (maybe this is the whole thing?)!
Now it’s certainly not that, but doctors are still trying to somehow control it, but it’s becoming more difficult .. I remember in February I called personally and asked to come for a vaccine (they do the scheduled every 10 years) .. just come and we will do everything quickly. . Promised, but never came, and now I'm sorry

Universal vaccination against serious diseases such as whooping cough, diphtheria, tetanus to this day covers almost everyone. But with vaccinations against viral diseases, confusion. By the way, some pundits add fuel to the fire, saying that so far, supposedly, there is no 100% guarantee in the success of their application. And if among specialists there is no consensus, then how can a simple person figure it out.

[paco.soto]

Googled carefully everything on this news here and was horrified - the European press is mean and hypocritically silent about Russian help!
All information in Italian, French and Spanish - revolves around the links of the Russian Ministry of Defense and Sputnik and various free vlogs in the local press and fb to each other, using the same photos and videos.
The scoundrels even promptly "deployed by Russia a field hospital in Bergamo" © declared in their infospace an exhibition center refurbished with their resources and removed 100% fake photos, where there is nothing Russian !!!


There is no limit to my indignation - how much budget money has been spent and such gratitude !!!

[Liam]

Quote: paco.soto

"Russian-deployed field hospital in Bergamo" ©

The army and the Italian Civil Defense provided equipment for the hospital, while Alpine shooters veterans, ultra Atalanta veterans, carabinieri veterans and volunteers built for free (in 10 days).
https://www.ecodibergamo.it/stories/bergamo-citta/ospedale-da-campo-degli-alpinii-volti-il-lavoro-la-solidarieta-le-foto_1347422_11/

[paco.soto]

So you liam deny the quote of the Russian Ministry of Defense !, and they started to google the enemy info field. Maybe even as a ya in the geyropa hid and slander from there? !!
It is said: "a Russian-deployed field hospital in Bergamo" ©
mean - deployed and money is not stolen!