In the Leningrad region launched the production of marine engines

In the Leningrad region, the production of marine engines and control systems has been launched. The new enterprise was opened by the company Marine Propulsion Systems (IPS), the press service of the regional government reports.

According to the report, the new production is located in the Fedorovskoye industrial zone. The company will produce marine engines, compressor units, diesel generators and control systems for ships and vessels of the Russian Navy fleet. At the first stage, the volume of investments in new production is determined at 1 billion rubles, and further expansion is planned.

Unfortunately, the message does not mention the specific range of marine engines and other products planned for release.

The official page of Marine Propulsion Systems LLC says that the company was established in St. Petersburg in 2005.

"MPS" offers a full range of services, including the production and supply of ship equipment, commissioning, warranty and after-sales service (...)

- says the company’s website.

Let us clarify that in addition to domestic equipment of its own production, MPS supplies ship equipment of foreign manufacturers, including: Belgium, Norway, Germany, France, Great Britain, Spain and Finland.

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[Mavrikiy]

The production of marine engines was launched in the Leningrad Region. "MPS" supplies ship equipment of foreign manufacturers, including: Belgium, Norway, Germany, France, Great Britain, Spain and Finland.

Nothing personal, business? For superprofits and mother dear?

[Nicholas C.]

Unfortunately, the message does not mention the specific range of marine engines and other products planned for release.

If you read the offsite more closely, then: "Marine Propulsive Systems LLC produces: marine main engines and diesel generators based on Deutz AG (Germany) engines with power from 16 kW to 440 kW". Localize.

For diesel engines for the fleet, for small aircraft, etc. On the example of the fleet. At VO, someone dispersed hysteria, they say, the Star can only do one! engine per year, so only one Karakurt will be built per year. Like, they lost their competencies, etc., everything was gone. I looked, not one at all, more, and this is only for the 9 months of 2019 (how much did they pass by the end of the year?) - https://www.korabel.ru/news/comments/dvigatelestroitelnyy_zavod_zvezda_predstavil_kolichestvo_postavlennyh_izdeliy_dlya_flota_s_nachala_goda.html The engine is 112 cylinders.
Together with the Austrians, they developed a new generation engine. https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/60562/ Legally he is ours. But so far a lot of it is not ours. Invested in localization. With materials easier. The star announced the launch of a new production. www.zvezda.spb.ru In 2020, they intend to bring localization to at least 70%. Domestic modern valves, injection units, fuel pumps, individual sensors are still a problem for new diesel developments. But this does not mean that everyone wanders demoralized with the words: we have lost everything, we will all die. There are reasons for cautious optimism.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Nikolai S.

if you read the offsite more carefully, then: "LLC" Marine Propulsive Systems "

Thank you for Pts. read carefully. But questions remain.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Mavrikiy

But questions remain.

Of particular interest is the question - where do the components come from? Is it completely from start to finish your production or screwdriver assembly from foreign parts?

[venik]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Mavrikiy

But questions remain.

Of particular interest is the question - where do the components come from? Is it completely from start to finish your production or screwdriver assembly from foreign parts?

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Neither one nor the other - rather "in the middle" with a tilt towards ever greater import substitution!

[The leader of the Redskins]

Sorry .. How many cylinders? !!!

[alexmach]

On the example of the fleet. At VO, someone dispersed hysteria, they say, the Star can only do one! engine per year, so only one Karakurt will be built per year. Like, they lost their competencies, etc., everything was gone. I looked, not one at all, more, and this is only for the 9 months of 2019 (how much did they pass by the end of the year?) -

Truth? And if you read carefully?

For 9 months of 2019, the ZVEZDA plant manufactured and shipped to customers 24 units of products, including main engines, gear drives and diesel generators for ships under construction of various projects, as well as railway rolling stock.

Among the deliveries are seven diesel engines of type M500 of dimension CHN16 / 17, of which 4 engines of type M507, consisting of two blocks of 56 cylinders and a final drive.

4 engines of type М507 do you think how many "Karakurt" is that? Well .. if you were able to ship 2 more before the end of the year, then it will turn out exactly 2 Karrrakurt. And what, pulled up production. Instead of one set per year, you now get 2

[Yrec]

"Let's clarify that in addition to domestic equipment of its own production," MPS "supplies ship equipment from foreign manufacturers, including: Belgium, Norway, Germany, France, Great Britain, Spain and Finland." - it looks like a screwdriver assembly.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Yrec

It looks like a screwdriver assembly.

It seems that there is really no assembly there as such. Even the shop looks suspiciously like a warehouse.

[Peter is not the first]

It is possible that the screwdriver assembly, but still I want to believe that a billion rubles of investments will be a full-fledged, Russian production.
And since it is impossible (but we would like) that everything would be produced in Russia, then something in single copies was delivered to us on the terms of screwdriver production if this helps to circumvent the sanctions. But in smaller and smaller quantities and with a greater degree of Russian localization.

[Yrec]

You, my friend, an incorrigible optimist

[Peter is not the first]

View of the plant and view of the industrial zone (satellite view is still the time of construction):

[donavi49]

Even on the official website it says:
Assembly and testing using domestic components by agreement with the factory HND, China.
helical columns using components manufactured in Russia (Steerprop-Russia is a joint venture of MPS LLC and Steerprop Ltd. (Finland)
rowing electric machines and generators (assembly and testing in the Russian Federation under an agreement with Schorch GmbH)
Marine main engines and engine-based diesel generators Deutz AG (Germany) with power from 16 kW to 440 kW; engines Henan Diesel Engine Industry Co., (China) with power from 350 kW to 1500 kW
Production is carried out taking into account the requirements of RMRS, PPP and the wishes of the Customer with the use of components from European manufacturers.

[Keeping]

Final assembly takes place in the workshop, on an assembled and packaged engine arriving from abroad, a plate for compliance with Russian standards for noise and environmental emissions is attached. After that, the engine is shipped to the final consumer.

[Sky strike fighter]

The sanctions began to circumvent openly. The capitalists. What they just won’t do for profit.

[Jager]

And what about the Kingisepp plant?

[sanik2020]

The country launched such a publicity campaign for import substitution, and then they doused it like a pot, imported parts, mainly from enemy countries, collected in a heap and passed off as domestic. And if these "partners" refuse to supply their parts, what kind of import substitution will the military fleet use?

[DEDPIHTO]

It would be better to invest in regional domestic factories with a full production cycle, such as, Volzhsky Diesel, in Balakovo. Regions need support and development, and the loot again swells in the capital.

[Vadim237]

Kolomensky has a D500 line on the way to the series.

[23424636]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

It would be better to invest in regional domestic factories with a full production cycle, such as, Volzhsky Diesel, in Balakovo. Regions need support and development, and the loot again swells in the capital.

Not a ruble from Moscow or St. Petersburg to the side. There is simply no brain to think of cogs, but only logistics.

[kgbfarm1]

Quote: DEPHIHTO

type ,, Volga Diesel ,,

I doubt that CAT will be better than Deutz, the Germans have been rubbing on our market for a long time, you’ll scare them with what sanctions.

[Pvi1206]

Unfortunately, the message does not mention the specific range of marine engines and other products planned for release.

... either the military classified ... or not everything is so colorful ...

[7,62x54]

When Siemens turbines were dragged to the Crimea, they also carried out specials. cover operation, no one knew the true destination. For engines, we also need a lightning rod company to confuse the tracks.

[Gray brother]

Quote: 7,62x54

. For engines, we also need a lightning rod company to confuse the tracks.

But this is not her. As I understand the scheme, these should sell to such a company with words like "Yes, we do not know at all what they did next with the goods."

[rocket757]

I just want the boat motors to do it themselves !!!
Of course, the market is very busy, but volumes will not be very small, they will be needed tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, always, until they really invent something new!
Although, this is the newest, OURs would be well invented too!
Boom wait, boom hope ....
oh yes, we, too, should not sit on the loin and wait for the weather by the sea! There is also something busy, if you think well.

[Thrifty]

What about gearboxes? This is by far the weakest link! Because of them, dignity and the commissioning of warships are inhibited.

[for]

It seems to me better to switch to nuclear powered ships and nuclear powered aircraft.

[IC]

IPU pursues the right production policy. The equipment is produced as part of international cooperation. An import substitution company is just a political slogan. For a long time now there are no plants of a full cycle. This is the rudiment of the past tense. In Germany, components are produced by small specialized plants. Part comes from other EU countries. Hence the optimal prices and high quality.
And the installation on new ships of 3 M507 cars with 112 cylinders in each in the 21st century is absurdity and a measure of hopelessness.
It is cost-effective to develop new engines only with the prospect of export, as the domestic market is not sufficient. Unfortunately, the global market is already divided between large trans-national companies. For civilian customers, only licensed production is real. Like for example in
USSR MOD B&W at BMZ.

[bars1]

ICEnsuring national security is an expensive business and far from always economically advantageous. But it's worth it

[Sergey S.]

Quote: IMS

And the installation on new ships of 3 M507 cars with 112 cylinders in each in the 21st century is absurdity and a measure of hopelessness.

And what is the reduction in ship speed?

[abc_alex]

Quote: IMS

For a long time now there are no full cycle plants

Quote: IMS

It is cost-effective to develop new engines only with the prospect of export

Well, that's exactly the same reasoning in the 2000s. As a result, they are now sitting without motors. Neither a full cycle, nor incomplete, not that export, can not do it for themselves.
What kind of export do you want? You yourself write that the market is divided, who will let you go there? What licensed production, if sanctions are imposed against Russia and the license can be withdrawn at any time! How this is done, look at the example of China and AMD.
What is the profitability? In Russia, there is nothing to really put on BATTLE ships, or the Kolomna engines of the middle of the last century, or something exotic star-shaped in homeopathic doses, or a Chinese one-time.

Enough of this liberal-market nonsense already. It is about equipping the Navy. In Russia, there is nothing to put on battle ships. And if you follow your logic - and will not. Since it is not realistic to enter foreign markets, and the license will be withdrawn immediately, our military will hardly appear next.

[NF68]

So it should be. It seems to be a trifle, but a trifle is good.

[tihonmarine]

I often think of an anecdote about Hades on this occasion. "By the decision of the Central Committee, a collective farm is being created near Birobidzhan, a week later a message came from the chairman of the collective farm. The collective farm was created, send collective farmers."

[Incompetent]

So I don’t understand Chubais just ruined EVERYTHING? In my opinion, the truth is somewhere between "everything is bad" and "everything is good"

[Vadim237]

Chubais Rosnano has one - he has nothing to do with the production of diesel engines, but perhaps someone from his 85 production plants will supply materials for these guys.

[Uruguay]

Well, okay .. I think this plant will have orders and not small ones, now they hope for Western purchases like death, then sanctions, then just sabotage, etc. In the USSR, as they say, they produced from needles to orbital space stations and did not depend on anyone and spat on all their crises and different courses .. Russia should strive for this!

[abc_alex]

Quote: Uruguay

In the USSR, as they say, they produced from needles to orbital space stations and did not depend on anyone and spit on all their crises and different courses .. Russia should strive for this!

Yes, it does not look like production. Especially independent. Just compare, this is the old diesel assembly shop of the Kolomensky plant.

[bar]

"MPS" supplies ship equipment of foreign manufacturers, including: Belgium, Norway, Germany, France, Great Britain, Spain and Finland.

That is, they "launched" the next logistic installation. There is reason to be glad
It is not clear only the presence of the word "production" in the title.

[Vadim237]

They can order accessories from subcontractors in Russia.